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AI Made Marketing Easier… And Worse
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In this AI marketing podcast episode, Dan Sanchez and his brother Travis ask the uncomfortable question: is AI actually making marketing worse? They unpack how speed can quietly erode trust, dive into the OpenClaw/OpenAI drama shaping the future of autonomous agents, and break down what’s new with Gemini 3.1 Thinking and Claude 4.6—plus practical, real-life ways they used AI this week.
My Favorite AI Tools
• Tella — https://danchez.com/tella
• High Level — https://danchez.com/highlevel
• Zencastr — https://danchez.com/podtools
• n8n — https://danchez.com/n8n
Resources Mentioned
• Kathleen Booth (LinkedIn post) — https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:7424448497187475458
• Dan’s poll: “Can AI content be authentic?” — https://www.linkedin.com/posts/digitalmarketingdan_danchez-activity-7430379015460413440-Vq9x
• OpenAI — https://openai.com/
• Anthropic (Claude) — https://www.anthropic.com/
• Google Gemini — https://deepmind.google/technologies/gemini/
• AI Business World (event) — https://aibusinessworld.com/
• X post about Seedance clips — https://x.com/minchoi/status/2023439784988078423
Timestamps
• 00:00–11:15 — Is AI ruining marketing? Why speed + “AI slop” quietly destroys trust
• 11:15–20:15 — OpenClaw drama: hacked agents, name wars, virality, and OpenAI hires the creator
• 20:45–27:20 — New model updates: Gemini 3.1 Thinking + Claude 4.6 Sonnet (and why free tiers now matter)
• 27:20–30:00 — Sponsor: High Level and the case for systems that run without you
• 30:00–36:56 — Everyday AI: medical triage, 5‑minute vision casting, counting parking spots, and marketing compliance
• 36:56–41:20 — Poll breakdown: can AI content be authentic? (Results + what it means)
• 41:20–45:35 — Viral post: Seedance videos and why AI video is nearing “better than CGI” moments
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Transcript
Intro
AI in Marketing: Speed vs Quality
00:00:05
Dan Sanchez
On this show, we talk a lot about how AI can drive your marketing, about how AI can make your marketing better, faster, and become the thing that we've all wanted it to be. It can help us actually do the stuff and keep up with all the tasks. But in this episode, we have to ask the question, is AI actually ruining marketing?
00:00:27
Dan Sanchez
That's what we're going explore in this episode, amongst a lot of other news. So welcome back to the AI-driven
Meet the Bot Bros: Dan and Travis
00:00:33
Dan Sanchez
marketer. I'm Dan Sanchez. Friends call me Danchez, and I'm joined by my brother, Travis Sanchez.
00:00:38
Travis
Come on, another day, another AI tool.
00:00:41
Dan Sanchez
Hey. And this is the Bot Bros segment, since we are brothers, and I know we don't look like we're related, but we are related. Say mom, say and dad, I swear. And we're going to be diving in.
00:00:50
Travis
that been not
00:00:51
Dan Sanchez
What?
00:00:52
Travis
nothing
00:00:56
Travis
We haven't done the DNA test, but pretty sure.
00:00:59
Dan Sanchez
uh at least we grew up together that much we know
00:01:04
Travis
true. Sorry, mom. She watches me. I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. was a joke.
00:01:10
Dan Sanchez
Oh, dude, mom listens to this.
00:01:10
Travis
The listeners will find out how to eat.
00:01:11
Dan Sanchez
Mom listens to this.
00:01:12
Travis
and I I know.
00:01:15
Dan Sanchez
How could she not?
00:01:16
Travis
Okay. Sorry. Sorry.
AI News and Marketing Trends
00:01:17
Dan Sanchez
where we cover the We cover the AI news every week. And of course, there's some ridiculous antics as well because that's that's what makes it fun. And I've heard from a number of people that's, I don't know, refreshing, I guess. But why why we even have Vopros. But mostly it's because there's a lot of hype when it comes to marketing. There's a lot of news. There's a lot of new tools, new things, new...
00:01:38
Dan Sanchez
Press releases going out all the time. Every week, I call through the news and I pick out the three things that you need to know. We cover a poll, we cover what's going on, practical things into kind of a variety show if you haven't known for bot bros in this segment. So let's actually kick it off with this idea around is AI ruining marketing? And this idea comes from a post on LinkedIn from Kathleen Booth. She's a fantastic marketer, been in the game a while. And there's not a lot of marketers I like like have my respect as much as people like Kathleen Booth. like She is truly great tactically, strategically, as a leader, as a content creator. like Anytime she says something something, I see her post come through on LinkedIn, I lean in. So when she was talking about this idea of like, hey, like AI is making a lot of marketers
00:02:31
Dan Sanchez
not do good marketing, I read the post. And it's essentially a conclusion that like, hey, like we marketers often are under the gun to produce things. And AI is making us kind of lazy.
00:02:45
Dan Sanchez
We're moving too fast. We're not reading the content. Our voices are going into mediocrity. And we're not even fact-checking as much as we should be. So is AI ruining marketing? Sometimes. Sometimes.
00:02:58
Dan Sanchez
There's a phrase actually, Trav, have to ask. have you ever heard the phrase that marketers ruin everything?
00:03:03
Travis
i
00:03:04
Travis
I haven't heard of it. No, but I get it. Yeah.
00:03:04
Dan Sanchez
You ever heard this phrase?
00:03:08
Dan Sanchez
i know, it's like immediately like, hmm.
00:03:08
Travis
I mean, there has there is that there is that like subtle feeling that you've heard the disdain for marketing, even just on a common man's lips.
00:03:10
Dan Sanchez
You could think of like,
00:03:17
Dan Sanchez
hmm.
00:03:19
Travis
They say, oh look at that marketing or look how they advertise that.
00:03:19
Dan Sanchez
Yeah.
00:03:24
Travis
You just kind of like, oh, there's this negative bent on what marketers have chosen to do. So, I mean, I've heard it in different ways.
00:03:31
Dan Sanchez
Yeah, I know. it's like I feel like it's like a subtle life mission to like make marketing better, make marketing more trustworthy, to make marketers the good guys.
Marketing's Impact on Platforms
00:03:42
Dan Sanchez
Someday. But the the reason why the phrase, if you're unfamiliar with it, comes from, it it mainly kind of started like around social media and the internet because like people start building websites and then marketers come in and start adding all these banner ads to it. And then like social media comes and then marketers start sticking ads and all of it. Essentially, marketing is always behind where the attention is.
00:04:00
Dan Sanchez
So whether it's your favorite brand or your favorite musician, your favorite anything, and then marketing comes and is like, oh, I'm taking over. And we we put out all the good stuff behind the pay gate and just scream at people through a megaphone. And that that's the kind of feeling we have. And of course, marketing over always over-premises and under-delivers. That's another problem.
00:04:22
Dan Sanchez
to where marketers are like just below used car salesmen, lawyers, marketers. That's usually where we fall. as far as like not trust meter goes.
00:04:33
Travis
Right. Dang.
00:04:33
Dan Sanchez
But now AI's come. So are marketers ruining AI too? Or I'd almost flip it and be like, is AI ruining good marketing? It's probably more likely.
00:04:46
Dan Sanchez
The consequence of us moving too fast with AI and not really like truly grasping AI and running with it and doing well with it is the is there's the the cost to it And I think the cost is just lost trust
00:04:59
Dan Sanchez
you don't do good marketing, well, you lose trust. Because if you do good marketing, the the the effect of good marketing is more trust.
00:05:08
Dan Sanchez
More likely someone's going to take that action step, click that link, buy that thing, buy again, you know, because of the, the, how you couched it, how you promised it. And it actually worked right. Provide you're getting behind good products. So I'll link to that post in the show description. She actually wrote a long article on her sub stack, kind of like backing it up worth reading as a marketer. If you're in the mode where you feel like things might be going a little too fast, where, If if I'm saying this and you're like, yeah, this this is starting to make me twinge a little bit because someone on my team is going awfully fast.
00:05:40
Dan Sanchez
Go and read this article. It's worth the read. It's worth the think about because as we are leaning into AI, and I recommend everybody should be, I think this is one of those things where we have to put like a check in order to make sure we aren't running ahead of our right of our feet.
00:05:55
Dan Sanchez
I don't know, like have you ever seen a puppy run or a kitten for that matter? You know how their back legs are more powerful than their front legs? So like they start running crooked because their back legs are running slightly faster than their front legs.
00:06:05
Travis
Yeah.
00:06:06
Dan Sanchez
Have you seen this happen?
00:06:07
Travis
Yeah.
00:06:08
Dan Sanchez
This is most marketers right now, I'm convinced with AI. They're like, look how much a content I can make. And they're like, they're gonna fall over in a second. I think this is what Kathleen is talking about in her post.
00:06:19
Travis
Yeah. That post, it was really good. And it was simple and simple to understand in terms of just trust being. deteriorated by the speed at which AI can create content and a marketer's ability to communicate the vision to AI and have it spit out, copy visuals, videos now.
00:06:40
Travis
But people are reading through those lines. And she said it so well, where she was like, it hasn't changed the metrics up front, but it's slowly going to degrade that trust to where it's going to hit numbers hard.
00:06:51
Dan Sanchez
Yeah.
00:06:51
Travis
But man, that's been a little bit of society right now. There's been a lot of lack of trust in government, in big pharma, in FDA, food things. So marketers who have been trying to uphold brands that maybe are losing that trust.
00:07:06
Travis
there but But the question is where, she mentioned it. She's like, where did the belief go missing in every company's story so that people have that trust? It's still there. I think for marketers to double down on that and go, what can we confidently brand and market so that people go, okay, I can, yeah, I'm going to get behind this wholeheartedly. Same thing, your story about picking a perfect creatine or protein, you're like, I trust that guy, right?
00:07:33
Dan Sanchez
Yeah. This brand, Jocko. I know that guy.
00:07:36
Travis
I trust that guy.
00:07:37
Dan Sanchez
Yeah.
00:07:37
Travis
Even though, should you really trust him? I mean, i don't know. What does he know about making creatine? That's a very like specific science, you know?
00:07:47
Dan Sanchez
Well, he's he's jacked. He's jacked, so that helps a little bit.
00:07:51
Travis
i know, but everyone's now finding out all the jacked guys are taking testosterone and dying at 29 from heart issues.
00:07:51
Dan Sanchez
He's been around the block and taken it.
00:07:55
Dan Sanchez
Well, for sure. Yeah, well, he, I mean, he probably is taking testosterone and all the other stuff. And and that, that doesn't really bother me that much because I just, yeah.
00:08:07
Travis
No, it's taking too much testosterone is the problem. so if you take testosterone, we're not hating.
00:08:11
Dan Sanchez
I don't know. I think the Navy SEAL guys have like a have a really high level of integrity most of the time.
00:08:12
Travis
Oh.
00:08:18
Dan Sanchez
I don't know. I read it because I've heard his story, and he could be lying in his story, but if he did, a lot of people would be coming up to say so.
00:08:24
Travis
Right.
00:08:25
Dan Sanchez
So I don't know. I haven't met him, but I've heard enough of his stories to kind of understand where his values are at, and that's what I trust.
00:08:33
Travis
it's It's one of those posts that like kind of re-centers you like, okay, that's right. I'm not and i'm not just increasing the noise. I'm not just multiplying the what what the AI slop content out there.
00:08:47
Travis
I need to really believe what I'm saying. And then that will actually outshine and be shown inside of every video, every script, you know.
00:08:57
Dan Sanchez
I think there's a place for this the people who are able to actually like think deeply and wrestle with things and then figure things out and do things and then actually use that to come up with AI content or they're going the ones who win.
00:09:14
Dan Sanchez
So if you've been getting by by just being like delegating things to a writer or this or that, like this is going to be a struggle for you to adopt AI. So you need to wrestle. And like, I don't know, like I lean a lot on like we we both have like this foundation of Christianity to to pull out from like the deep core set worldview
Humanities vs STEM in the Age of AI
00:09:33
Dan Sanchez
values. But then even like being able to wrestle with all kinds of ideas out in the culture and stuff. those the It's funny, is it's all like,
00:09:42
Dan Sanchez
i don't know what, like the people, the, the people who are champing championing, what is that college path?
00:09:51
Travis
what, like the academic path?
00:09:52
Dan Sanchez
yeah, but it's like the humanities, right? Humanities. They're kind of right. The people who like read broadly in literature and history and the arts and all that kind of stuff. I'm like, those are the kinds of things that end up mattering a lot more. Yeah.
00:10:06
Dan Sanchez
Then the STEM stuff, because the STEM stuff, like the math and the quant and the the scientific, like like AI is kind of eating away at that stuff.
00:10:06
Travis
Yeah.
00:10:13
Dan Sanchez
And the stuff that really matters is like the depth and the values and the philosophy, even even religion and all that kind of stuff. Because those are the things that kind of help you discern reality and what what is truth, what is what is what is true, what is good, and what is beautiful. And like a solid understanding of that and then express through AI can actually yield really good things.
00:10:37
Travis
Right.
00:10:37
Dan Sanchez
But if we're not wrestling with the deep things, then it makes it hard to not stay, not, it just makes it easy to create slop. So the humanities, the people that I used to shun the command, the people being like, it's all about the humanities. I'm like, man, just go get a business degree or a soft, like a software engineering degree. You'll be fine. I'm like, well, no, those ended up mattering now.
00:11:01
Dan Sanchez
All right. So is marketing ruining everything? i don't know. Read the post. Is it ruining your marketing? It's probably the more relevant question.
00:11:09
Travis
True.
00:11:09
Dan Sanchez
That's the question to ask. Is it, is it ruining you as a marketer or your team? Yeah. Ask that question, read the post, wrestle with it. Moving on to some new news, man, this is juicy. This is like ai world AI world drama that's not super relevant for marketers, but it was just so juicy. I like i had to share here on the new on the on the show. And I told you yesterday, Trav, but like couple episodes ago, we talked about OpenClaw. this open source software that really like released AI models to do what they're fully capable of, which is like run your whole life. Like essentially if they had access to your computer and your credit card and your instructions, they could go and do whatever for you, just like a human would with a laptop.
00:11:49
Dan Sanchez
They don't know how to do it. they They will figure out how to do it. They will code their own applications and figure it out. They're like truly autonomous agents. But the problem with OpenClaw is, well, the software was kind of new.
00:12:00
Dan Sanchez
you know It's only like a couple of four weeks, six weeks old. So like it has lots of like security loopholes and flaws and bugs and stuff. So like lots of people getting hacked. And I mean like lots, like tens of thousands of people getting hacked. Yeah.
00:12:13
Dan Sanchez
like their their API credentials sitting out, sometimes bank account, credit card information, personal information, just like leaked everywhere because people can prompt inject it just and they all come dumping out.
00:12:21
Travis
Yes.
00:12:24
Dan Sanchez
Right. Not hard to do, but it's a good picture of the future. That's where we left off with last episode. Since then, new things have happened with OpenClaw. the The man behind it, Peter, I have dug into his backstory, and that guy was freaking an OG. like He was a freaking gangster developer.
00:12:43
Dan Sanchez
like This guy sold his company for $100 million, dollars was kind of semi-retired for a while, as as people do when they kind of build a big business, sell it, and burn out.
00:12:51
Travis
Wow.
00:12:53
Dan Sanchez
Then Fell out of love with why they got into code. He developed software that was kind of like helped. It was like a middle middle layer software that helped bigger software deal with PDFs because PDFs are fairly advanced documents. if I used to be a designer, so i used to make all kinds of PDFs. You can put videos in them, docs in them, signatures in them. Like we've all done lots of PDFs. They're complicated. And he developed software to help bigger companies like Dropbox and Apple figure out how to deal with PDFs.
00:13:20
Dan Sanchez
I can't even remember the name of the company. was like some developer It was definitely named by a developer because it wasn't memorable. It didn't matter. he it was very valuable. He was the the lead guy behind it. So he sells that company. it kind of floats for a while.
00:13:32
Dan Sanchez
And this a he kind of falls out of love with code. he was he loved code. Meanwhile, this vibe coding thing starts picking up. He's like, oh, this is kind of cool. Huh. And he just starts playing with it. He's like, huh, I wonder if I can get it to do this. Huh.
00:13:46
Dan Sanchez
And then he develops like 40 something, like in the low 40s, different applications. He vibe codes them and starts to become familiar with how AI works. And a lot of those parts, he starts pulling a lot of them together. A lot of those individual of those 40 applications is like, I wonder if I could tie a bunch of these things together so I can come up with one super agent.
00:14:07
Dan Sanchez
We're going to call it Clodbot. And that becomes the thing. He open sources it on GitHub where other developers can come and pull it and experiment with. He's like open sourcing all of these things. He's like, hey, here's a tool I built. Here's a tool I built. I'm using this one to run my Spotify. I'm using this one to log into Twitter or X. I'm using this one
Exploring OpenClaw and OpenAI's Advancements
00:14:25
Dan Sanchez
for this. And he just starts building a bunch of these things. He vibe codes them all. He's like, oh, whatever. Little experiments. he's he's quite He's quite wealthy. He doesn't need to work. He's just playing now. And then he pulls them all together into open claw and open sources it. And freaking everybody loses their minds because it's actually good.
00:14:40
Dan Sanchez
It can actually take action. It actually gets things done reasonably well.
00:14:42
Travis
Wow.
00:14:44
Dan Sanchez
So the drama begins when of course he called it Claude bot. So Claude from Anthropic, you know, their legal teams like, Hey man, Not cool. We're going to require you to change that. He's like, okay, can you least give me two days? He changes it to MoltBot. Not a great name, but he only had two days to try to figure out how to do this.
00:15:05
Dan Sanchez
In the transition of transitioning to MoltBot, it takes like only a few seconds, and the scammers get all his usernames from MoltBot. and grab his old names. So they start like spamming the heck out of his old names that he had, right?
00:15:18
Dan Sanchez
Because he has to move off of Claudebot. And then they take his Claudebot URL and just start getting people to buy into crypto scams. You know, not cool. So he then, he's like, okay, he almost quits at this point.
00:15:30
Dan Sanchez
And just like, screw it, I'm just gonna give up. Cause like, i don't need to I don't need to deal with this. This is just nuts.
00:15:34
Travis
Yeah.
00:15:35
Dan Sanchez
But he's like, fine. i'm done He's like, I think a lot of people had also committed to the project cause it's open source. People are writing code on top of it and fixing it. It's become a community really fast. He's like, for their sake, I'm gonna try this one more time.
00:15:47
Dan Sanchez
Pivots to open claw.
00:15:49
Dan Sanchez
You know, and finally does it right, gets to all the yeah URLs, gets all the other old yeah URLs back and you know, does it right and moves forward. But like by this point, the thing's gone nuts.
00:16:00
Dan Sanchez
Like it's going viral.
00:16:00
Travis
Right, it's going viral, totally viral.
00:16:01
Dan Sanchez
Tens of thousands of people forking this GitHub and building it up with themselves now. Like it's the cat's out of the bag. And this thing's the most powerful thing anybody's ever seen by far. It's not secure, not good for marketers to use, but like it's definitely a picture of the future.
00:16:16
Travis
Wow.
00:16:17
Dan Sanchez
Definitely. Definitely. Anthropic, nothing. They say nothing. But meanwhile, Sam Altman from OpenAI starts, like everybody's calling this guy by this point. every venture capital Every venture capital company is like trying to pitch him instead of him pitch them, right? Everybody wants this guy on their team. Everybody wants to own this software.
00:16:36
Dan Sanchez
But Sam Altman gets there first. so mark Mark Zuckerberg does too, of course. Classic Zuck that is trying to get in on the action. But guess what? Sam Altman wins and pulls him onto the team.
00:16:48
Dan Sanchez
They decide to keep open claw. open source in a foundation. But now Peter is working full time for OpenAI to see his vision all the way through with all their resources and direct access to their models. And even they're probably their unreleased models that they're currently working on, which is kind of ironic because the whole thing started as CloudBot.
00:17:12
Dan Sanchez
And that was the main thing everybody was using was Anthropics Cloud. That was the main API they were pulling from to run this thing. And Anthropic was just like, nah,
00:17:20
Travis
Right.
00:17:23
Dan Sanchez
And OpenAI freaking jumped in and was like, snatchums!
00:17:26
Travis
Why do you think, why do you think
00:17:29
Dan Sanchez
Anthropik could have had it.
00:17:32
Travis
why do you think Claude was just like not thinking bigger picture and trying to work with him? You know what i mean? It's like, for me, it that's just like the low calorie decision.
00:17:43
Travis
Water flows to the least least resistance place.
00:17:44
Dan Sanchez
Yeah.
00:17:47
Travis
And I'm like that you did the most unthoughtful, just lazy, lazy thing by going cease and desist, trademark, whatever.
00:17:59
Travis
I'm like, dude,
00:18:01
Dan Sanchez
I don't know. There could be multiple reasons. They've said nothing about this. They've actually made, that since they've been like brought into open AI, they've made other steps to distance themselves from it.
00:18:07
Travis
i think it's I think it's ego.
00:18:11
Dan Sanchez
So they're doubling down.
00:18:11
Travis
I think it's ego, bro.
00:18:13
Dan Sanchez
Could be ego. It could be, hey, we actually have something in the pipeline that's kind of similar to this and like we don't really need that.
00:18:16
Travis
you
00:18:21
Dan Sanchez
And so we know and and it it was confusing. I'm not going to lie. When CloudBot came out, I was like, is this something Anthropic's doing? I think everybody thought that. like Is this an official Anthropic thing or is this not?
00:18:33
Dan Sanchez
like I don't know.
00:18:34
Travis
How about it wasn't, but it is now.
00:18:35
Travis
It's like...
00:18:36
Dan Sanchez
yeah Well, now it's officially an open AI thing, which is funny that he changed the name to
00:18:39
Travis
Think about how smart it would have been. Like, okay, it's already called Claude. You got a guy going viral, and they're just like, yep, Claudebot. It's nasty.
00:18:47
Dan Sanchez
Yeah, yeah it would have
00:18:48
Travis
It doesn't work great. Everyone loves it. It could screw you up, but, hey, we're working on it. It will get better. You know, it's like, ugh.
00:18:56
Dan Sanchez
it would have accelerated their their rise and pulled OpenAI farther behind. But now OpenAI, it's funny that they changed the name to OpenClaw, and then they got acquired by OpenAI.
00:19:03
Travis
Yep. Uh-huh.
00:19:07
Travis
Uh-huh. I'm telling you.
00:19:08
Dan Sanchez
i I'm like, dude, the irony.
00:19:09
Travis
Oh, man.
00:19:12
Dan Sanchez
Yeah.
00:19:12
Travis
oh man
00:19:14
Dan Sanchez
The freaking irony in that story. So what does this mean for marketing? You can expect the timelines to probably accelerate a little bit on this open claw thing. like Like, you know, Sam Altman's not going to let that go.
00:19:26
Dan Sanchez
And he's going to be like, try like this will be it'll be open source, but clearly there's going to be way more connection to open AI's APIs than everybody else's.
00:19:37
Dan Sanchez
it'll probably You can still connect to everybody else's, but there will be advantages Because now OpenAI is going to be able to build specifically into it in a much more compelling way.
00:19:43
Travis
Right. Right.
00:19:45
Dan Sanchez
So this whole thing puts ChatGPT ahead on agentic use in a totally different way. That's good because like OpenAI, we're like, dang, man, everyone's coming at them.
00:19:56
Dan Sanchez
They're losing steam. this move i'm like yeah this this was a solid move that's gonna that's we're gonna feel six months from now that could could keep open ai ahead this year because i think that was the big question at the beginning of the year is like does open ai stay ahead this year or does someone pull pull does just google finally take over or or i don't think i can't imagine claude would be the one that takes over but they could i don't know
00:20:14
Travis
Wow.
00:20:21
Travis
I have thoughts about Gemini taking over just in a small, a small way, but we'll get to that maybe in
Gemini and Claude: New AI Models
00:20:26
Travis
your next point here.
00:20:27
Dan Sanchez
Yeah. Yeah. So lastly in the news, this is, I'm kind of bundling two pieces of news because they kind of just become like, wait, what? Okay, whatever. But there's two new model releases, not major ones, minor ones, but they were kind of this still kind of a big deal. Gemini 3.1 thinking, we we went from three to 3.1 and it is better. It is smoother.
00:20:47
Dan Sanchez
It was a noticeable upgrade. one of the tests that I've seen people do with this. Yeah. And so let me, let me get the summary out. It's like 3.1 came out for Gemini and then Claude launched 4.4.6 Sonnet. We went from 4.5 to 4.6, both of them noticeably better, better models. Let's start with Gemini.
00:21:13
Dan Sanchez
Gemini's is definitely better, especially when it comes to code. A big test I've been seeing people do is the code up SVGs. You know what an SVG is?
00:21:21
Travis
Nope. Oh, like a file? like Is it like a video file?
00:21:25
Dan Sanchez
it's It's a graphics file. So an SVG is a specifically a web-focused vector file.
00:21:28
Travis
Oh, yeah.
00:21:34
Dan Sanchez
A vector is a mathematically calculated curve or a type of like... design file that's mathematically based. So like, it's kind of like a good logo file. You can zoom in as long as you want. It never pixelates because the curves and all the angles are mathematically calculated. That's why we use them in web design a lot, especially for logos. But since they're mathematically calculated, the file is essentially just code. I mean, all files are, but like this one can be manipulated live. So designers will use SVGs and fancy ways to create motion sometimes really fancy ones. So the trick has been like, can these code models create SVGs that are not just SVGs, but animations.
00:22:16
Travis
Yep.
00:22:17
Dan Sanchez
And a common one I've been seeing is a Pelican riding a bike. And before three zero had like a Pelican, you could tell it was a bike. You could tell it was a Pelican, but the legs were kind of like, aren't kind of wrong.
00:22:26
Travis
ahha
00:22:27
Dan Sanchez
The wheels weren't quite moving. Right. You know, but you could tell where it was going. It just, it executed it like a five-year-old would, you know, it just couldn't, it wasn't quite there. But now, Now you're like, nope, definitely Pelican. Definitely looking good. Does it look like master art? No, but Pelican, all the limbs are moving in the correct way. It's on the pedals. Like everything's going. You're like, okay, noticeable difference.
00:22:51
Dan Sanchez
Claude 4.6 is so good. It's specifically their sonnet. It's like their mid tier model.
00:22:57
Travis
Mm-hmm.
00:22:57
Dan Sanchez
Opus is their big model and no one's heard of haikus. They're like fast model, but they haven't talked about haiku in like almost a year now. So the big claim to fame they've had is over the last month, Opus has been crushing it.
00:23:08
Dan Sanchez
It's their big expensive model. And that it's been the leader in everything, like in a lot of things, especially for code. 4.6 Sonnet, their mid-tier model, is almost now just as good as their big model.
00:23:21
Dan Sanchez
But at the advantage is it's way cheaper to run. So even free users have access to Claude 4.6.
00:23:30
Travis
Wow.
00:23:30
Dan Sanchez
This is important. Marketers. I used to say this all the time. It has now changed. i say I used to say commit to one platform and just use it. But now, even even even if you only have the free tiers of Claude, maybe you pay for ChatGPT. Great.
00:23:46
Dan Sanchez
Do that. But even if you just have the free tiers of Gemini and the free tier of Claude, they are freaking good. There is no excuse to not have the free accounts on your phone and on like...
00:23:59
Dan Sanchez
a bookmark on your freaking tab in your browser, because there are some subtle differences between these ones and they do really well. If you want to write good copy, Claude crushes. If you want to deal with lots of data, Gemini is where I'm going.
00:24:11
Dan Sanchez
And
00:24:11
Travis
Dan, that was very convincing. I felt an energy surge through me to go, why do I not have the free version downloaded? i just want you to know what you just said was potent.
00:24:19
Dan Sanchez
freaking win. It's yeah.
00:24:21
Travis
I was like, oh, i need to jump on this yesterday. That's what it made me feel. So if you listen to that, if you didn't have that same feeling, you don't have a pulse.
00:24:32
Dan Sanchez
It's time. It's time to just straddle all three. And honestly, because because you can just get away with so much for free now, it's like this is it's one of the things it's it's the the delight of capitalism driving everything to like zero.
00:24:39
Travis
Yep.
00:24:46
Travis
Right. Yep. Same.
00:24:47
Dan Sanchez
Right. They won't always stay for zero once there's a clear winner in this race. Like hopefully hopefully the capitalism continues working and it doesn't like monopolize because that's usually what happens.
00:24:57
Dan Sanchez
But for now, like take the winnings and the freedom to be able to do this. And if you find you're using one past the limits and you're like running into the the limits all the time, it might be time for an upgrade.
00:25:07
Dan Sanchez
And that's okay too. I know people who pay for all three. I'm currently paying for ChatGPT and Gemini. Gemini is like by default because I pay for Workspace already. So I already have the paid version of Google's AI stuff.
00:25:19
Dan Sanchez
Claude, I kind of upgrade to if I need to do a lot of writing. Like if I'm creating a whole book with it or something, then I'll i'll pay for Claude.
00:25:24
Travis
Right.
00:25:26
Dan Sanchez
Otherwise, I'm just using the free one right now because I'm not doing enough work to justify it.
00:25:30
Travis
This is a little segue just quickly. I don't know if you've noticed OpenAI's image generation versus Gemini's. I don't know. I don't know what Gemini did, but I feel like Gemini throttled back their image creation.
00:25:44
Travis
Without making a big deal about it thinking oh well we got all the attention because ours was clearly faster and better and it was better at reasoning on what you wanted and all this stuff. Now I still run both I asked I use the same prompts for both chat and for Gemini and chat GPT has been winning like five out of the last five images I've had it create for what I need.
00:26:04
Travis
It does better. And Gemini seems to have like lost, it literally pulled back a few points. I don't know what happened. I don't know if you've noticed it. It feels subtle, something they wouldn't want anyone to know, but I think it's intentional. Have you noticed anything like that?
00:26:20
Dan Sanchez
No, I've heard people say this a lot, like the models have been pulled back from the beginning. I don't know if that's true or not. I've never really noticed it personally.
00:26:32
Dan Sanchez
I've heard it said about chat GPT.
00:26:32
Travis
And the only reason I noticed
00:26:34
Dan Sanchez
I've heard it said about Gemini. I've just heard it said a lot over the last six months about everybody.
00:26:36
Travis
Dude, the only way I noticed is because Gemini, every time I had Gemini make something, I'm like, oh, it wins. Oh, it wins. Oh, it wins, especially in image creation. And now it has, I mean, flopped dramatically.
00:26:44
Dan Sanchez
Yeah.
00:26:47
Travis
like i'm Anyways, I don't know if open AI if openai is just getting better or Gemini pulled back, but that's my thought. Moving on.
00:26:58
Dan Sanchez
following up on our AI business world contest that we ran, a winner was selected. And I literally just got an email kickback saying the email didn't exist, which is really funny.
00:27:11
Dan Sanchez
I'm like, I'm like, I could have typoed it, but the winner, the winner has been selected. You have not from forgotten. But I need, I need the person to like, tell me they've accepted the winnings. Otherwise i have to pick a different winner. Cause like, I don't know, maybe they can't show up at the time, but they wanted to get it anyway, or just see, I don't know.
00:27:27
Dan Sanchez
a winner has been selected. The email bounced. I will do my diligence to even find them on LinkedIn if I have to, but if I can't get ahold of them, then that's a bummer. But if I'm sorry, if you typoed your email into the form, like it could be you.
00:27:40
Dan Sanchez
So I'm trying to get ahold of you and, I'll follow up next week with the name. Well, I may be a note, not, maybe you don't want to be announced, but, uh, the winner has been selected.
00:27:48
Travis
I mean, you can always just give a for you could always just give a first name, you know.
00:27:52
Dan Sanchez
Yeah, can give a first name. I could do that. Winner has been selected.
00:27:55
Travis
Like right now, like what's the first name? Who won?
00:27:58
Dan Sanchez
No, because I want the person to say, yes, I accept the winnings. So I'm not to announce it because it might end up being someone else. And what if I don't get a hold of this person? so
00:28:07
Travis
Sheila from Florida, you have won. I'm just kidding. don't know. I just
00:28:11
Dan Sanchez
He just made that up. but That is not a she-less-less-for. All right. But sponsor of the week, since we've covered our AI business world, of course, is high level.
00:28:21
Dan Sanchez
I just got off the phone yesterday with with a company that just doesn't have the systems. They're operating out of constant contact and Excel sheets. I'm like...
00:28:31
Dan Sanchez
let me show you how he level high level works. And I did a demo and kind of showed them like, this is what you need to do. This is how you go from lead to getting them in the first stage of the sales process. This is what a sequence can look like. Look, it's not that hard. Drag and drop automation. You have this specific thing. So high level can do this here. And they were like, they almost like one lady in particular, I could see her like nodding her head, but I'm like, I know it makes you want to cry, right? Because you've been doing this on hard mode for years now. It's time. Yeah. I swear, if you haven't checked out High Level yet, just go watch some tutorials on you YouTube. I need to make my own tutorial to show you how good it is. i'm I'm overdue for that. But you can get a trial, an extended trial, if you go to danchez.com slash high level. If you're in the market for a CRM and marketing automation platform, there really isn't something better, unless you're a massive business. Like if you're doing over 20, 30, 50 million, maybe High Level isn't the right fit. But if you're anything below that, High Level is definitely...
00:29:26
Dan Sanchez
capable and way less expensive than everything else and does all the stuff often better.
00:29:27
Travis
Love that.
00:29:31
Dan Sanchez
So check it out. Danchez.com slash high level. Moving on to everyday AI travel. What do you got
00:29:37
Travis
Playing on a frozen pond with my kids, pushing them on a sled and, you know, getting closer to 40, not as coordinated as I thought. Slipped, knees buckled in, heard a pop as my knee left me, hit the ice.
00:29:50
Dan Sanchez
got? Oh, it's just hearing it.
00:29:54
Travis
But it popped before it hit, which means something tore and I felt my knee just be like jello. So I tore something. I think it was my MCL. So I'm like, do I go to the doctor?
00:30:04
Dan Sanchez
Yeah.
00:30:04
Travis
I can barely walk. I'm like, oh, i don't want to go to the doctor. i don't got money for that. So I just... just get, give me the information. You know, it's so nice to like, just chat GPT this up and go, can I just have, okay.
00:30:16
Travis
Best case scenario, minor, medium, major thing. Like what, what, how does this work? It it basically isolated the, it's probably your MCL.
00:30:23
Dan Sanchez
yeah
00:30:26
Travis
This is probably what it feels like if it's minor, if it's a medium thing. And I'm like, when is surgery needed? Tell me when, when does a doctor really affect how this thing heals better? And it's like it, you will only get surgery on your MCL if you are like you tore the thing just clean off.
00:30:42
Travis
And most likely you didn't do that, but you need to wait to see for a day or two to see. So I waited for a day and sure enough, within three days, my knee started feeling so much better. I can run on it again.
00:30:53
Travis
And that was like a couple weeks ago. So didn't go to the doctor, just waited waited to see it out. So thank you, chat Dr. Chat. Is it medical advice? No. Can it be?
00:31:03
Travis
No. Is it helpful? Absolutely. Man, so glad I didn't go to the doctor.
00:31:06
Dan Sanchez
It's just helpful because there's, I mean, medical is just so complex. You know, there's so many nuances.
00:31:12
Travis
Totally. And if you go to MD, Med, WebMD, they're like, if you don't go to the doctor, you're dead.
00:31:14
Dan Sanchez
WebMD, freaking, you're gone.
00:31:20
Travis
Every time you might die. i'm like, okay, not helpful.
00:31:24
Dan Sanchez
you know this is This is actually an update that I haven't announced on the show because it's not relevant for marketing, but it still is really helpful. like So many people are using it for this exact type of use case and for illnesses, and I'm feeling this. like What should I do? What are some good remedies? What is the doctor going to say?
00:31:38
Dan Sanchez
So many people are doing that. that app open it A lot of the the AI companies are now integrating health stuff into their AIs. ChatGPT released like a beta version of health so you can sync it with your Apple data, your Apple care data or whatever.
00:31:47
Travis
Wow. Wow.
00:31:51
Dan Sanchez
So that then all your sleep data and all that kind of stuff can be synced into chat GPT.
00:31:52
Travis
That's cool.
00:31:55
Travis
Wow.
00:31:55
Dan Sanchez
It's in a beta I applied, but i I don't have access to it yet. But I'm like, I have, I've talked about creating a health chat GPT project where it has like my blood work and all that kind of stuff.
00:32:03
Travis
Right. Yep.
00:32:04
Dan Sanchez
And I just have chats with it in there.
00:32:05
Travis
Yep.
00:32:06
Dan Sanchez
So it has my health context and history.
00:32:08
Travis
Oh, it'll start spotting things so much sooner than doctors just from having all that access.
00:32:11
Dan Sanchez
Yeah. Yeah.
00:32:13
Travis
Yeah.
00:32:14
Dan Sanchez
Of course, a lot of people are like, I don't want it to know that kind of stuff. I'm like, then this isn't for you. Don't share that.
00:32:19
Travis
Uh-huh.
00:32:19
Travis
Yep.
00:32:19
Dan Sanchez
But for a lot of us who are kind of like, nope, take all my data.
00:32:22
Dan Sanchez
Tell me what's what's up before before it becomes a problem. Because proact we all know proactive medicine is like really where the game is at.
00:32:29
Travis
Yep.
00:32:29
Dan Sanchez
If you're reacting to it, then your you would have wished you were more proactive with the course diet and exercise stuff. But if you can proactively find things and deal with them. that's why I'm hoping to like, I can't wait to get access to the thing where you can sync your sleep data and your nutrition data and your workouts to it. So I can kind of like monitor it, monitor it and then actually give you really good feedback. I'm like, yes. And then work with you and your doctor for guidance, right? That's the, that's the, that's the goal.
00:32:56
Dan Sanchez
something I did with chat GPT is I had to give a little five minute presentation or a little, like a little vision casting at a company thing. I had five minutes and I'm like, okay, I need to come up with an outline. And I just hope it's so nice to just be able to hit like dictate chat GPT. Here's the thing. I have to give a five minute presentation. I don't have long. I'm addressing a whole company. I need to cast vision for the future. here's the general line of thinking that I'm going with. Help me formulate this and make it a little bit more concrete because this is a little bit abstract right now. Just to have it as a thinking partner and you kick it off, you have the main idea that's rough, just like but it's on demand. It's 24-7, 365. You have someone to spitball with on whatever idea you have in the moment that you can actually do it because sometimes you only have a few free moments in order to deal with these little items that you need.
AI as a Creative Tool
00:33:41
Dan Sanchez
right You're in between.
00:33:41
Travis
Yep. Yep.
00:33:42
Dan Sanchez
you're you're in You're in the car for a moment before your kid comes out from school. Whatever it is, it's in your pocket, and you could just spitball it, actually find a resolution copy, and paste it and have it for later.
00:33:52
Travis
Yep.
00:33:53
Dan Sanchez
It's so nice.
00:33:55
Travis
I asked it, I took a picture from Google maps and I asked it to count parking spaces in a parking lot thinking, okay, I don't want to sit there and count 250 parking spots. I'm like, maybe if I just screenshot it from Google earth, I'll just throw it into chat and say, can you count the parking spaces in this parking lot?
00:34:12
Dan Sanchez
Get it?
00:34:12
Travis
No, it really couldn't do
00:34:17
Dan Sanchez
As soon as you said it, I'm like, oh, this looks like it's out of range.
00:34:20
Travis
I'm like, it's an empty parking lot. You'd seize the lines. I'm like, you know what a parking spot is? Yes, I see the lines. I know what a parking spot is i'm like, all right, how many are there? It's like, yeah, so.
00:34:30
Dan Sanchez
it It still struggles with counting basic things. It just hurts.
00:34:36
Travis
Grade school kid. Okay. I want you to count how many parking spaces in this picture and you just mark off which one you've already counted so you don't double count. It's like, sure. Oh my gosh.
00:34:45
Dan Sanchez
Yeah.
00:34:46
Travis
Can't do what a first grader can do.
00:34:46
Dan Sanchez
It could do it. Dude, chat GPT, the higher levels, they're now testing it with math that hasn't been figured figured out by humans yet. They're letting it go on problems that like humans have been working on and haven't found a solution for yet. But they know it's like it's theoretically possible.
00:35:01
Dan Sanchez
So chat's starting to find them and present them. And then they're so complicated that it takes a team of experts like a long time to figure out if it's actually right.
00:35:08
Travis
To proof it? Yeah.
00:35:09
Dan Sanchez
Yeah. That's the level of math it's doing. Yet, ye it can't count parking spots. And that's just the the dichotomy of AI. So it's good to cover it, though, because I don't think a lot of people people get caught off guard all the time with the shortfalls of AI.
00:35:25
Dan Sanchez
And they're like, AI's stupid. I'm like, no, you just have to be aware of where the be aware of where the potholes are. And there are a few. This is one of them.
00:35:31
Travis
Uh-huh.
00:35:33
Dan Sanchez
My last one is, man, I've been using, I used ChatGPT this week to kind of like navigate some like legal compliance stuff. I was working with a friend in a specific industry. It was and it was like in the medical industry. So we're navigating like, okay, like,
00:35:48
Dan Sanchez
HIPAA hippaa stuff when it comes to marketing and CRMs and stuff and trying to understand the nuances of it.
00:35:49
Travis
Bye.
00:35:52
Dan Sanchez
I'm like, well, we're thinking about this. like Where does that cover? there's Because laws are written to be very specific and sometimes oddly vague you know to give some wiggle room. so you can Of course, it's always better to talk to a lawyer about that.
00:36:23
Dan Sanchez
Moving on to the poll of the week. Of course, we started, we kicked it off with this, our marketers ruining AI or more likely is AI
Authenticity in AI Content
00:36:32
Dan Sanchez
ruining marketing. I had to go to the poll and ask my LinkedIn fam, my LinkedIn crew.
00:36:38
Dan Sanchez
felt weird to say fam. I'm like, no, let's just call LinkedIn crew. I asked them, can content can content made with AI ever be quote unquote authentic?
00:36:48
Dan Sanchez
And then just above that, I said, define authentic, whoever you'd like. This is a poll about perceptions. It's funny. I still had people in the comments like being like, well, it depends what you mean by authentic. I was like, freaking, did you read the statement above? Yeah. I know there's not a, I'm not going to define it. Just tell me whatever you think it is. Vote for that.
00:37:05
Dan Sanchez
And here, here were the options. And then I'll tell you the breakdown. I had, can content made with AI be authentic? I had, yes, absolutely can be. Yes. If you feed it your ideas may. And then the next one is maybe, but it's pretty rare. And then not really.
00:37:23
Dan Sanchez
no
00:37:24
Travis
No.
00:37:27
Dan Sanchez
I try to phrase it in a way to catch your range.
00:37:30
Travis
you romantics.
00:37:35
Dan Sanchez
So here's here is the breakdown. Yes, absolutely can be. Got 24%. It's a pretty good chunk. Yes, if you need it, if you feed it your ideas, 51%, which is where I land.
00:37:46
Dan Sanchez
like You have to feed it to make it authentic. You have to give it the right context. that's That's what I've been beating. And of course, my LinkedIn crowds, the people who follow me and engage with me on LinkedIn, like, There's a reason why they engage with me because they already buy into like how I talk about AI. So of course it's going to lean heavy towards that, but I still wanted to see maybe, but it's pretty rare is 9%.
00:38:08
Dan Sanchez
And then not really know is 16%. So that's the current breakdown. How does that hit you?
00:38:14
Travis
Yeah, I... That seems right to me. I mean, I'm glad there's... The majority of people are are are, I think, smart enough to realize that if you feed it the right thing, it's going to do what you need to do. So, I'm in agreement. I...
00:38:32
Travis
I'm not surprised there's that many people that are like, no, never. Cause the more people you just are trying to help understand the benefits of AI, you just meet those people are just like, this is ruining all the society. I'm like, yeah,
00:38:46
Travis
Yeah.
00:38:48
Dan Sanchez
Again, the strength of AI depends on your personal values, convictions, experiences, and stories.
00:38:58
Dan Sanchez
I think those are going to matter. It's go to matter for building trust because everything else is going to become commodity. And so the things that aren't commodity are the things that can't be replicated easily.
00:39:03
Travis
Uh-huh.
00:39:06
Dan Sanchez
And those things can't be replicated easily. Everything else can be. Now, there are some people that disagree with that and think AI will be able to replicate those. But I'm like, yeah, but humans, it'll be able to replicate those and come up with backstories and all that kind of stuff. And that that'll be a thing. That'll be a thing. We'll be talking to, like, there will be...
00:39:27
Dan Sanchez
influencers that are just fake characters and they don't have to be strung by like pretending to be people they will be obviously ai and they will be amazing i'm actually looking forward to it it's going to be great it's like imagine like the next like iron man tony stark character comes out and it doesn't even have to be tied to a human it could just be what it is and it has a fit story and personality and videos and the character and you enjoy it And then you can interact with them on on X.
00:39:43
Travis
Right. Right. Uh-huh.
00:39:52
Dan Sanchez
It'll be great. It'll be great. It'll be really funny to she see that person show up in your comment feed giving their two cents. You know, like it'll just be a thing. There will be fake there will be fake characters we interact with and then and and real ones.
00:40:06
Dan Sanchez
So I won't down that. But naturally, I think human tendency is to have a hunger for what's real, a hunger for actual human interaction.
00:40:12
Travis
hu
00:40:13
Dan Sanchez
And there will be a way in the future, hopefully, to like verify that they're humans online. And that that those particular raw stories are going to be a not a commodity.
00:40:24
Travis
Just have it count parking spots.
00:40:27
Dan Sanchez
Have it count parking spots.
00:40:28
Travis
Send it a picture and say, count these parking spots.
00:40:29
Dan Sanchez
All right.
00:40:33
Dan Sanchez
Verify humanity, count parking spots.
Viral AI Content: The Case of AI Cats
00:40:39
Travis
funny.
00:40:39
Dan Sanchez
Okay.
00:40:40
Dan Sanchez
And we' we're going wrap up with the viral post of the week. And I got to say, like, there's so many seed dance videos out there now.
00:40:46
Travis
it's it's It's next level, bro.
00:40:46
Dan Sanchez
We talked about it last week, but they're like all over the place.
00:40:49
Travis
It's next level.
00:40:50
Dan Sanchez
And they're so good.
00:40:50
Travis
it's It's like 90%. We're just meeting that last 10% shine for these clips to be flawless.
00:41:00
Dan Sanchez
Yeah. Like there's some stories I want to see so badly done that I'm like, I wouldn't even care. This would be good enough. If you made the, if you made the movie that never got made and it was just this, I would be okay.
00:41:06
Travis
Yeah.
00:41:11
Travis
it's it's like better than cgi It's better than CGI.
00:41:14
Travis
I'm looking at this cat's face playing this character, and I'm like, this is better than CGI.
00:41:14
Dan Sanchez
It is better than CGI. Yeah.
00:41:20
Travis
i have
00:41:20
Dan Sanchez
A hundred percent.
00:41:21
Travis
I'm sure CGI could do this. It just costs so much.
00:41:24
Dan Sanchez
But it would cost a ton of money.
00:41:25
Travis
It costs so much money. And then what's the point of doing a 60-second thing?
00:41:31
Dan Sanchez
Yeah.
00:41:31
Travis
But AI can do it in two minutes.
00:41:31
Dan Sanchez
the
00:41:33
Travis
I'm like, this is wild.
00:41:35
Dan Sanchez
This is the video that caught my attention this week. And the one Travis is referencing is this video of like these like Kung Fu Kitty showdown. And there's like one on the bridge bridge and they're just acting out a scene.
00:41:45
Dan Sanchez
They're cats, but they look real. They don't even
00:41:47
Travis
Well, they're not kung fu. They're wizards. They're shooting.
00:41:49
Dan Sanchez
Or the wizards. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:41:50
Travis
Yeah, they're shooting well.
00:41:51
Dan Sanchez
They're like having, they have a battle.
00:41:52
Travis
So,
00:41:52
Dan Sanchez
There's a dark one and a good one and the dark one beats, like kills the good one. But I'll, I'll link to it in the notes. You definitely have to watch it to know like, this is where we're at because it's hard to get the hair right. Again, it looks more real than CGI does.
00:42:04
Dan Sanchez
And the acting is actually kind of good. The voiceovers are like pretty good. like You're like, oh, like this looks like a electric video of these cats. Like just cats showing up and doing wizardry and blasting each other. It's like this little just short scene.
00:42:18
Dan Sanchez
But it looks like it came out of a larger video.
00:42:19
Travis
The fur, it's the fur, dude. There's so much fur on a cat's face and the level of detail where you can see the millions of little pieces of fur blowing in the wind just perfectly.
00:42:21
Dan Sanchez
Yeah.
00:42:28
Travis
bro
00:42:29
Dan Sanchez
The other thing that they did even better than Disney is the expressions on the cat's faces. Like if you watch live action Lion King and you're like,
00:42:39
Travis
It's awful because their face is like cement.
00:42:39
Dan Sanchez
It looks like CGI and the emotions on the, on the real looking tigers don't even look quite right.
00:42:41
Travis
Right.
00:42:45
Travis
Right.
00:42:45
Dan Sanchez
But if you want to see what it should look, should have looked like, just we'll watch this AI film. It literally did better than Disney did on their like multi hundred million dollar, multi hundred million dollar budget film.
00:42:51
Travis
Yes. Yes.
00:42:56
Dan Sanchez
And that film was a wild success because this, because it's Lion King and people freaking love Lion King.
00:42:59
Travis
King. Yep.
00:43:01
Dan Sanchez
but this was better. Okay. We'll link to it in the show notes, go and watch it and you'll see for yourself. But again, this is coming. It's like, I, I still don't think we'll have a full movie in theater made with AI in theater because I think i think it'll be possible.
00:43:15
Travis
It's only February, brother.
00:43:19
Dan Sanchez
I just think, I think getting into theaters takes too much work. Like the amount of work you have to do to like one, you have to make the movie
00:43:25
Travis
Some studio is already working on it. For sure, they're working on it. It will be announced in April, be put into theaters by August. Come on.
00:43:36
Dan Sanchez
Yeah. Maybe seed dance is probably good enough to produce it.
00:43:39
Travis
I think so.
00:43:40
Dan Sanchez
Uh, but they, yeah cause you have to start working on that stuff ahead of time. So I'm just thinking project management wise, like the amount they have to build backwards towards in order to make it live and promote it properly and to get it out there. I'm like, Oh, it's going to be tight, man. Seed dance. Seed dance is probably close enough to where they actually could do it justice.
00:43:56
Travis
Man, people are going get in trouble because they're going start using... It's the same thing OpenAI i struggled with when they had Scarlett Johansson's voice as one of the main voices. The voice from this cat is clearly Benedict Cumberbatch. Like, it is clearly his voice. And I'm like, that's going to be a problem.
00:44:14
Dan Sanchez
But like, how do you, know how like, I don't know what they're to about that.
00:44:16
Travis
Oh, you know, dude.
00:44:16
Dan Sanchez
They're
00:44:17
Travis
How did I know? I knew from three seconds of watching. him the He goes, brother. I'm like, okay, Benedict. Yeah.
00:44:25
Travis
Yeah.
00:44:26
Dan Sanchez
Oh, it's going to be an interesting world. All right. Well, thank you for tuning in and submitting your submissions and leaving reviews for that contest.
00:44:34
Travis
Yeah.
00:44:34
Dan Sanchez
is Still not too late to buy tickets yourself. If you didn't win, though, if you did apply, just know I'm trying to reach you. It might be you. But join me this April at the AI Business World coming up in Anaheim. You can go check it out.
00:44:49
Dan Sanchez
Just Google AI Business World or go to socialmediaexaminer.com. You can find links to the event.