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The Essensuals of Jing part 2
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Enjoy a shorty this week so no one gets podcast fatigue. Learn about the intriguingly named Jade Liquid and a sex test for the Emperors that we would all like to take.
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Introduction to Method Mastery
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Speaker
Welcome back to the Voices on the Mountain for part two, The Essentials of Jin.
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Sweet. All right. So that one is the second quote ah from good old Sun Tse Myou. And then he says, all right, so how do you know um you know if you've completed
Humorous Technique for Mastery
00:00:26
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this method? and This is a is a hilarious quote. This one, he says, I'll just translate it. And he's he basically he says, um that You know with when you're dealing with this method, um if within one evening you interact with 10 people, interact being the very subtle word here. The biblically no. That's right. That's exactly right. Well, we didn't beget anything because you knew the technique. Oh, hey. Snap. ah The 1 begets the 2, the 2 begets the 10, the 10 begets.
00:01:03
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All the empresses, ladies. That's exactly right. This was actually targeting more emperors when he was talking about this line. Then he's like, so if you can interact with 10 peeps and ah you can, bigu are you which means like you can um lock and close and consolidate, which means don't ejaculate. um Then he says, <unk>s found zhong zhi shubi which means you've mastered or you've you've literally like completed or graduated from the from this um bedroom method. The word, exactly. wo who It's a different graduation ceremony, I suppose. I made it through all 10. It's like the 10 Shaolin Chambers.
00:01:46
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ah yeah but and Then when people, of course, don't abide by this and they can't and they ejaculate too much, that the ancient Chinese word for that is bedroom fatigue. fan a Oh, nice. Yeah. See, they even have a term for it. We don't have a term for bedroom fatigue over here. Yeah. No. This is just poor kidneys. That's what you got. But you don't even know. I mean, we don't even think about that as a health thing. Yeah. that's really True. So. And that's actually not terribly hard to teach patients. I mean, pulses are complicated. Anyone who says otherwise is just pulling your leg. But being able to compare pulse strength between the three pulse points, that doesn't take too long to learn. You have to have no guidance about at what's the right wrist position, what's the right um finger position, and so forth. But other than that, it's just compare the big three, right? Yeah. i'll I'll have patients take their pulses in clinic just to feel something crazy, just to be like,
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if they're interested, because they're always asking, you like what are you feeling in the pulse? so I'm like, well, check out how this side is different from that side. And they're like, whoa, that's so weird. I'm like, yep. So what do you do with that? I'm like, I don't know. I work with the weirdness. I try to get it to shift. Pretty simple. Exactly. ah That's exactly right, yeah.
Acupuncture and Diagnostics
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Acupuncture is just based on pulses, which I think I said this in different podcasts, but I have heard that there's there are few schools, maybe in America, I think there's one in the East Coast or something, um that don't teach pulses because they only have an acupuncture program and not an herb program.
00:03:18
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That is huge disservice to their patients or their students which everyone yeah exactly. Jesus yeah i can't stand on the shoulders of giants if you make them midgets like you can't even find the shoulders man yeah no you don't even know where the risks are at you don't know where the pulses are cheese. Yeah, it's really, really essential. The Ling Shu goes into endless depth about ah using pulses for acupuncture. So it's not just an herbalist thing. um Yeah, we really need to focus on it. I feel more like the tongue as an acupuncturist who's just doing acupuncture, I feel like the tongue is more of the herbalist mark because, you know, shifts in the pulse can be, can happen, you know, pretty immediate. And so I can put needles in, feel the pulse again, how'd I do? um but The tongue's the one that,
00:04:09
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It's harder to shift, not that you can't with acupuncture, but it seems like it's harder or it takes longer and then. Yeah, they're it's really much, I don't know, much more depth on the inside. You're 100% right now, sure. Yeah, classic um classics would 100% agree with you. ah Mostly because the tongue tells us a lot of yin things, and the pulse tells us a lot of yang things in general, right? There's a kidney and kidney and pulse, but in general, that's it. And so because acupuncture is a yang method, trying to manipulate yang in the body to change function within the body,
00:04:43
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um as opposed to herbs, which is a yin method, and then we imbibe it through the yin pathways, which is the spleen and stomach. So generally, we treat yang problems with yang methods and yin problems with yin methods. So you're absolutely right. And there's even a classic diagnostic phrase. I love this one. Super helpful for those in the clinic, by the way. um But just like Asher said, they said, when the um symptoms are confusing, go to the pulse. And when the pulse is confusing, go to the tongue. Because just like Asher said, 100%, the tongue will not change as fast as the pulse. It cannot. ah You run upstairs, your tongue doesn't change. You run upstairs, your pulse sure as well change. So you're absolutely right. So that it's talking about like the slow, steady changes that you need to see. That's what you're going to see in the tongue. But then the pulses can change day to day. But then, of course, i mean nobody's just like, hey, today mike I woke up. My kidneys are like 12 times better. No way. No way.
00:05:37
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not not Not the kidney pulse. Other things, maybe. Yeah, exactly. Cleaver cheese stagnation can go, dampness, spleen can be happier. Yeah, exactly. We had a kid come in once, he was a student and his tongue looks so fine. It was like, there was no problems. And I was like, what is going on? And he was like, I don't know. I did a bunch of mushrooms yesterday and I'm not worried about anything. I was like, Oh, we all just need to like graduate and get out of school. yeah fine Oh yeah, man. Digestive like, Hey, how come I just feel better immediately? Right? Yeah. Yeah. Jing, we talked about,
00:06:14
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Retaining for men. Yep. Where were we just at? Oh, yeah. Oh, and there's another phrase that let's pull one more phrase from since you know Yeah. All right. We got this one. He says um ah This method, he refers to the the output of this method or the result of this method as being Lingren Changsheng Bulal, which means it'll help people live a long time and not age. That sounds kind of redundant, but what he means is live a long time and not be decrepit. So I think this is a really
00:06:47
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you know um potent point is that um there's actually a great martial artist Sun Lutong and you know he created Sun Style Tai Chi and some other stuff.
Philosophy of Sun Lutong
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He's one of the best martial artists in the last 100 years. Anyway, he had a really classic phrase that was very similar to this too. They asked him why he practices martial arts and he said, well, I want to live long and die quickly. ah Look at how many people in our society live a short life, but then die for 20 years, right? Oof, toughy. So this one, Lingren Changsheng Bu Lao, that's really what he's saying is, I want to live a long, robust life, but then have a short aging or deck decrepit part of that lifetime, right?
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And then it goes on to say, xian yun yu xi. So how what's how do we um start this
Health Benefits of Foreplay
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method? We're starting to get into the house. And the first thing he says is, first with your partner, in this case he says with the with your lady partner, um play. He literally is says play. So you know interact, foreplay, all that stuff. It's exciting, right? like It's exciting for everyone. And that excitement is nourishing and rebuilding and generating yang in your body. So just like physical exercise, you know sexual exercise is great. It really is. It's so good for the kidney yang until you blow a load and then wreck your kidney in. And then where's all that yang going to go? Nowhere. So you just it just evaporates outward. And that's often where people get that kind of like wave of heat after ejaculation. That's literally the loss of their kidney yang because it has no more place to reside in their body.
00:08:21
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Ah, I never thought about that that wave of heat. Yeah. When you start thinking, but when like when once you start reading these, you're like, OK, OK. And you start paying attention to them, and then you can pay attention. Yeah. Then he continues on, he actually says yin, yu, jiang, ah ji which means imbibe or you know drink the jade liquid. So what is the jade liquid? It's true, Ash is not lying. there's ah There's two great definitions for that jade liquid. And they both come from the ladies parts, one in the mouth and one in the the the JJ. So here we've got, so it's the liquid on either end. um
00:09:01
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which one it is, is still up for controversy. It's usually considered both. but So they they they have another phrase that says, yu zhang kohongjutenya which is the the jin within the ko, which usually just means mouth, but technically could mean any orifice. So And then the the jing from the mouth, is that the same one then that's related to the kidney?
Fertility Education and Body Awareness
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That's correct. That you learn about in the in the fluid relations. That's absolutely right. Same one is from the kidneys. And and then there's those meditative practices where they'll swallow their saliva and intervals and so forth. And they try and build their kidneys with it. So same idea there. But I mean, if you're you're talking about like the essence of yin, I mean, you know,
00:09:46
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As Asher kindly put it, that posy juice, that's a... Yeah, vaginal secretions. is It's the yin within yin, man. and You can't really get yin in that. and Well, I was going to say, you even get like some during ovulation time, you could even get like a yi, like a thick fluid. That's That's exactly right. So is that even then probably even more nutritive? It is nutritive and is specifically nutritive more for the organs and in this case, the uterine. So that's what some people will call the fertile mucus. Sure. I like to call it the fertile myrtle if you're a, you know, Harry Potter fan, as I know our muggles are. No, no, no, no. Absolutely not. Right? Moaning myrtle? No, no. Not in the bathroom. It's like the clue game went wrong. That's right. Steven, what are you doing? It's not with the... So... It is indeed. And so you can think, okay, well, what's the fluid for? It's protecting, you know, the peripheral parts. And then what's that thick mucus for? It's for nourishing the old organs, which of course holds onto that sperm. And it's just such an important part of fertility too.
00:10:59
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Sure. And actually, most people don't right most women um don't unfortunately get this education. So if they're going to a fertility specialist, hopefully they are, maybe not. But so then really as acubuncturists, especially if you're going to if you plan on treating any sort of fertility or gynecological issues, it's really helpful to get women um paying attention to these things. and you know um not be Because some women are kind of you know, scared to pay attention to this stuff at first. It's great. Are you kidding? It's like so much good information about your body. So we as practitioners can really set the tone for that and help them really, you know, embrace this info. Totally. And one of the trickier things I think that you don't ever learn in school and that you just have to learn on your own is how to teach your patients about their body. Yeah.
Building Trust with Patients
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um And like get them meet them wherever they are, because they're gonna be all over the place. And like,
00:11:55
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you know they might have hang ups about their body and all these things that you have to work through with them. and That's the whole process that is um a whole another skill level or another skill just to develop is to walk them through that process. Azure is so right. and If you do it, if you meet them where they are and you you learn how to cultivate that, man, your reward for that is a whole lot more information. so If you want to get a better diagnosis, you sure do want that extra information. But you know sometimes you ask him what their poops like and they're like oh fine you're like yeah I can't really go I can't go into that is it sticky like soft serve. Doesn't flow so you gotta build up a ah rapport before you can go there.
00:12:37
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Oh, totally. I feel like and I always talk about poops the first time. I definitely will. I'll just do like the eat shit sleep. but Yeah. like That's the key. Very basic. Yeah. Yeah. How are all those things going? Now I do P too because you taught me the importance of P. Nice. so Of course. um And then the other two that that are on the docket. These are my Asher's five questions instead of the 10. Is there like emotional state and then they're like sexual health or if they're a woman, their cycle too? Totally. um Would be like the last two. And I don't generally go into those in the beginning and then I wait for them to either like bring it up or like gently, you know, like build that trust. If a woman's honor period or she's ovulating and I can tell through the pulse, I'll ask. And usually that is a great way because they're like, well, you can tell I'm like,
00:13:27
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take your pulse. Like, can you tell? They'll be like, yeah, I can totally tell. I'm like, yeah, when, when the wireiness goes away, like your cramps are probably gone. You know, your PMS is probably gone. Totally. um So, and that builds their trust. And then they're like, Oh, maybe I should talk to you about like all this weird stuff that happens, you know, that no one else wants to talk about our nose. Cause you go to a Western doc, you could be like, Oh, I have this weird thing. They'll be like, Bill. Cool. Yep. Still on the pill. Why are you not on the pill yet? Oh my God. what What a different world would be if they came to us at 14 or whatever yeah like again on the pill immediately. Yeah. And I think, like Ash was saying, like there's so many things we could teach you about like like health. like how to like what does it feel like What is good and healthy? right um Also, like if you can communicate well with your patients, same thing we were saying before, they're not like
00:14:19
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skittish about it. They don't think it's like bad or wrong or dirty or any of these things. That's i mean that's a game changer right there. like people really shouldn't Same thing with pooping. like I know a lot of people are reticent, but a lot of people also aren't. And that's just a normal, good, healthy human thing. you know Totally. And then they'll teach you stuff too. like I had a a young girl the other day who You know, I was like, Oh, well, you know, I guess I'll ask her about her period because I could tell that she was on it. Um, and then she was like, I was asked, you know, any cramps, any, any of the, you know, side effects or whatever. And she's like, no, this one's a, uh, what'd she say? A salty period.
00:15:00
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Oh yeah. So I don't get cramps. And then she was like, my sweet periods, I get cramps on. I was like, what are you talking about? And so she she, you know, is on the other end where she's in tune with her body and she's in tune enough to have already noticed that, you know, what her food cravings are sleeps craving during her cycle, uh, tells her if she's going to have cramps or not have cramps or if the PMS is going to be bad or not bad.
Interpreting Body Signals in Chinese Medicine
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So. So interesting. Just taught me something. Totally. Yeah. Love it. After the break, me and Steven are going to go on a little ramble about our knowledge and what we're taught here in the West. The blue Yeti. hip bill That happens when the blue ball gets really serious, an angry Yeti. It's like turning into the Hulk, but but way less powerful. yeah He's in so much pain. Oh, put ice in my balls.
00:15:59
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Totally. Build those kidneys up. You never have too much kidney. No. There's no formula for too much kidney. That's right. In fact, fact there's a phrase. there's ah there's a phrase they say In Chinese medicine, they say like there's no such thing as an excess kidney condition. And then, yes, you might retort with, well, what about a kidney stone? That's actually an excess dampness condition, but um or something else, yeah, stagnation. But anyway, yeah. And in fact, when I came back to America, someone at the school, someone at the Denver School, was it you, Asher? Someone told me that there was like someone's website in America said there's no such thing as deficient kidneys.
00:16:36
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And I was like, are you kidding me? like When's the last kidney you pulse you felt? They were like, this is good. Liver deficiency. They'll say in school that there's no liver deficiency, which isn't true, but they'll say. Yeah. Because it hardly ever happens, right? Most people are stagnant in their liver. You have liver depression. I mean, you have to press people. You bet. feel their pulses. The liver pulse is not banging. and And if they said, then they would have to say, is it liver eon or liver yang? I think they mean like they the yang. Got it. Yeah. Because we know liver eon deficiency with like blood stuff and all sorts of you know issues. That's correct. that liver I think they would be like, liver chi deficiency isn't a thing. I'm like, I don't know. This patient has it. like
00:17:23
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That's true. That's an interesting point because you kind we kind of brought up there's no there's no herb to strengthen kid or liver yang, but there are herbs to rehabilitate liver yang. That's what they should have said. Meaning when when we find that really sluggish liver pulse and um you know the liver is instead of not overacting but underacting, which is very important to get get clear, then there's herbs. You can use things like chai hu, which are really strong, but I actually prefer to go to gentler methods like xiang fu, where it's like giving that, it's rehabilitating, it's giving it the natural movement that it wants. um It's like a gentle push instead of like a punch.
00:18:00
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Okay, and that's different from strengthening it because strengthening is just a straight tonification. Correct. We're just going to ramp up the volume versus the stereo is not playing music at all. Let's like make it play. Yeah, you could think of like, so if the stereo just has no more volume, that's deficiency, or if you're in the living room, or Let's say you're in the kitchen and there's a bunch of boxes between you in the living room then the then clearing out the boxes is the way of Getting it to move better as opposed to just bumping up the volume Yeah, it's how the liver she is coursing through the body. That's an issue rather than the liver she itself so so key so like there's We'll just toss out one last one for the dorks out there. So there's two key formulas that sound very similar. They very are very similar. One is called Si Ni San, and one is called Si Ni Tang. They're both strong-handed formulas, but they're extremely different in herbs and in syndrome. Si Ni Tang has Fu Zi, and it's got Gan Jiang, and it's just like a blaster of and a formula.
00:19:07
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That one will, of course, course things through, but it actually revs up with basically like it's like artificially bumping up their yang. So that's true yang deficiency. But Sini-san is not at all tonifying the yang because chai hu, it's cooling. How can a cooling herb strengthen yang? It doesn't. it circulates the yang. No, it just circulates. And so what that one's doing is it circulates the yang that's stuck out to the limbs. So one means there's no yang left, so they can't get anything out to the limbs. And the other one is they've got yang in the torso and in the core, they just can't get it out to the limbs. And that's way more common and therefore way more applicable. Very rarely do you ever need Sydney tongue. That's like if someone's in shock and lost a bunch of blood or something. Okay. Awesome.
00:19:56
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sweet Well, I think that's it for this marathon of Jing. Well, it's going to last a while, which is what we want. Oh, snap. Okay, okay. You set yourself up for that one, I see. Thanks for listening to this week's episode. Hit the like button, share, and subscribe so you don't miss out on any more essential episodes.