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Infinite Abyss Episode 66: The Unstitchable Part 1
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This is part 1 of a 2 part pod, the gang is back this week with a nice fresh technical SNAFU for you! The boys are all music this episode talking Space Freely, Limp Bizkit, does Richie only like overrated bands? and so much more!
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Transcript
00:00:01
Speaker
Cheers.
Song Mix-Up and KISS Album Discussion
00:00:08
Speaker
you
00:00:33
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Many years since I was here On the street I was passing my time away To the left and to the right Buildings towering to the sky It's out of sight In the dead of night
00:00:58
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You don't often hit grand slams, Richie, but you fucking nailed it today. but um ah I'll tell you this much.
00:01:10
Speaker
That's not what I thought you were going to open the show with. And then I thought it was a different song. And then I don't know what song that was. Yeah, that was, you thought I was going to open the show with the transplants.
00:01:23
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No. but yeah you you You hit a grand slam. be you No, and Rosie immediately thought it was fucking Boy George. Or not Boy George. What's the other gay? much my George Michael. George Michael in Wham. I literally i thought yeah i thought it was Faith by George Michael. and i was like oh No, he stole that riff.
00:01:41
Speaker
That was by My First Guitar Hero in... Many, many guitar heroes back in the day. Ace Frehley. Space Ace? Space Ace, the spaceman.
00:01:55
Speaker
R.I.P. I almost came in with Rip It Out. but So wait, so was that that was just an Ace Frehley solo song? Yeah, that's New York Groove. Okay.
00:02:07
Speaker
Cause I expected that you were going to open with Kiss. No, that was during their like weird time apart. And he started doing his little solo thing. And he he tried to get a little disco and like, tried to get that like weird early 80s shit.
00:02:18
Speaker
But well, this was, what the date all so we're they were all, this was, his was by far the best.
KISS Makeup and Solo Albums
00:02:25
Speaker
They all decided to release a solo album under Kiss.
00:02:29
Speaker
So Gene Simmons did one. was horrible. So wait, he did a rendition of when you wish upon a star. Oof. Yeah. And he tried. That's tough.
00:02:42
Speaker
I feel like his wish didn't come true. So... But Ace Frehley's solo album off of Kiss is one of the best just... It's honestly a great rock album. It's actually... It's great rock album. It's actually... It's just stunning to me and it's even more stunning that Martin is so supportive of it. And I hate Richie.
00:03:03
Speaker
I know. No, you hate Kiss. No, I don't. Fuck you. I've seen Kiss at least a times. I was going say, seen Kiss. Yeah. I'm the one that keeps reminding you about how gay kisses and we'll get into that.
00:03:16
Speaker
But I have a question is I love kisssed the record. So they've released solo albums, but you said that they were under kiss.
00:03:27
Speaker
It's like the same, same. Okay. But it was, but it wasn't a labeled kiss album. It was an Ace freely album. No, it was a kiss album. So that's my question is they made kiss albums, but it's like Gene Simmons wrote the whole album. Ace Frehley wrote the whole album. Yes, that's correct.
00:03:42
Speaker
See, you see this? yeah. That's the cover of his solo album. And they each had him they each had their own face on their own cover.
KISS Lineup Changes and Personas
00:03:52
Speaker
So like what what did they all come out at the same time? Roughly. they And then like what year is roughly? Let me guess, Richie. 84.
00:04:00
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eighty four No, it would have to be before then, because I think East Fraley left the band in 82, didn't he?
00:04:11
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well I would guess, like yeah, maybe 81. Interesting. I'm looking up. I'm Google machining this shit. look When did KISS first start? 73, I think.
00:04:25
Speaker
And you are one of the bigger KISS fans that I know. You love KISS. I think they are... extraordinarily underrated in many wow we weren't even close we were september 18 1978 wow i mean i said 81 that makes sense for the uh like the disco we kind of groove to that 1978 So I don't want to lose that point, Rich, because I have a very different viewpoint. You say that Chris is criminally underrated. Kiss.
00:05:01
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Kiss, brother. What did I say? Chris. yeah chris first um Peter Chris is their drummer. Right. He's the cat man. Yeah, he was. Oh, he's not? No, Eric Singer took over for him to become the Catman.
00:05:14
Speaker
So that was going to be my next question is, does the does the face paint stay the same, even though it's a different person? Is the drummer always a cat? So... The drummer is always a cat. Eric Singer, I believe, was still a cat. Yeah.
Nostalgia for KISS and First Music Purchases
00:05:30
Speaker
But the face paint change, like Vinnie Vincent came into the band when Ace left, I think, in like 82. Yeah. yeah And when I say left, I mean got kicked out.
00:05:42
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And Vinnie Vincent came in and he had his own he wasn't like the spaceman, but he was kind of a spaceman. But he had different makeup, completely different makeup.
00:05:54
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And then Eric Carr. Did I say Eric Singer? Eric Singer was a guitar. Eric Carr came in and he became the... um
00:06:10
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One of them was like a wolf or something. I don't fucking know. Anyway, who's the original guys are Gene Simmons, Ace Frehley, Peter Chris, the dr kiss, that whatever the drummer's name is. yeah And then who is the other guy?
00:06:26
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Paul Stanley. Paul Stanley. Oh my God. By the way, Paul Stanley did a residency like himself. um He played a couple of shows at like, not a residency, but the house of blues in Vegas.
00:06:40
Speaker
Some of the greatest fucking highlights of the man's career. Download does that dude. Was he just a singer or did he play guitar too? He played rhythm guitar.
00:06:54
Speaker
Okay. And you think that Kiss is criminally underrated.
00:07:06
Speaker
How old are you in 1975? I'm negative nine. Yeah, no, I was already a Kiss fan. I was already dressing up as them for Halloween. I was right so it's five.
00:07:17
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This is where my question is going is what was it like like being a kid in the 70s? Kiss is like the biggest, craziest shit you've ever seen in your life. There's nothing else like it out there. ah I was all about Kiss.
00:07:30
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That's wild. first 45 was I Stole Your Love. My first A-track, Kiss Alive 2. My first cassette, Kiss Alive.
00:07:45
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My first full album,
00:07:50
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The Rolling Stone, Sympathy for the Devil. It's funny. I reflect back to my first record, and it wasn't nearly that cool. It was Starship. not jefferson Not Jefferson Starship or Jefferson Airplane.
00:08:03
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Starship. Yeah, you the 80s version. Yeah. I was born in the dude. Congo version. this is We built by a city, Richie. Oh, yeah. We built a city with rock and roll.
00:08:15
Speaker
Yeah. My first cassette of all time was Green Day Dookie. Not bad. Oh my God, you're fucking child. And my first CD that I ever bought was The Great Southern Trend Kill by Pantera.
00:08:31
Speaker
I had, believe it or not, I had Pantera's Cowboys off from Hell on vinyl on an album. That's outstanding.
00:08:41
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As well as The Violent Femmes, Billy Squire. I know somebody that banged him in the clash. Allegedly.
00:08:54
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If I could be wrong, But I believe Big Mark's first album was Tragic Kingdom by no doubt. But I could be wrong about that. But I feel like that might have been the first one.
00:09:05
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and My mother bought me a CD player, like my first little boombox, and was like, I know your music so well. I'm going to buy you an MC Hammer CD. I was like, all right. oh Awesome. And I immediately went out and bought Pump from Aerosmith.
00:09:18
Speaker
Oh, yeah. I think one of the first albums me and the Aqualad had was... ah He kind of looked like MC Hammer a little. I look just like him. You do. what Can't touch this.
00:09:33
Speaker
What the fuck was that Aerosmith album that came out like after Pump? It had the cow udder, the pierced cow udder. That album doesn't even suck. um don't even care what anybody says. That album... Love in an elevator and all that? No, that was Pump.
00:09:46
Speaker
Yeah, no, this one was, I think this one had like crazy, living on, oh, you're living on the edge. Terrible. Is she dead now? No, I don't think so. That album was awful.
00:10:02
Speaker
Crazy with Alicia Silverstone. yeah Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I would have cut my left leg off to have stuck one finger in Alicia Silverstone back in the day. Just to smell it. You'd have the um cerebral palsy, whatever she has.
00:10:16
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I remember the opening song was eat the rich. Yeah. Eat the rich. Take one bite now. Spit out the rest. Eat the rich. You know what? If you listen to it now, you're like, ah, not that bad.
00:10:30
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yeah Like I listened to, what did I try to listen to the other night? When I say the other night, it was, I think I might drive back, but.
00:10:42
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and Cinderella. And I started, I got past like maybe three quarters of a song of what the train pulling into the station. i was like, ah, can't do it.
00:10:55
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Cinderella was always, was, was too tough for me. I listened to toys in the attic from Aerosmith start to finish about a month ago. It's still fucking hits fucking one of the best albums of all time.
00:11:06
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Yeah. It was a great album. I honestly thought they were dead after their greatest hits. had greatest hits one and two, and I thought they were done, and that was like in 78. Greatest hits of who? Aerosmith.
00:11:20
Speaker
Oh, yeah.
Aerosmith's Legacy and Music Perception
00:11:22
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They had like, I mean, their greatest hits that they had then, I bet people don't even know what they are. Like, yeah what was on it Kings and Queens. i Kings and Queens and guillotine.
00:11:35
Speaker
That fucking shit. No one knows that song. That was one of their greatest hits. Keep in touch with Mama Kin. 10-inch record. People don't even know that tune. Whip out my big 10-inch record.
00:11:47
Speaker
Yeah. I'll tell you, I've been listening to a branching off of the off of the kiss of the death of Ace Frehley. I've been listening to quite a bit of Limp Bizkit lately.
00:12:00
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Because there are their sweet bassist, Sam Rivers, just died a couple days ago. So that shook my world almost as hard as yours, Richie. Not that hard, but.
00:12:13
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But there is what's great about I know you guys hate Limp Bizkit, but they're pretty awesome. But that was back in the day when ah my brother had our 88 Buick LeSabre with the Discman that plugs into the tape deck. Who didn't have and and that? And that first album was like, i I mean, that came out when I was like 97.
00:12:32
Speaker
ninety seven So that was like I was 13. LeSabre. Driving around with my big brother listening to some fucking Limp Bizkit, dude. You know? I am more listeningning to bad I am I think about Limp Bizkit now The way people thought about Van Halen In 1974 75 And that is They just thought they were a party band And that's all they did Before people really Got to understand Eddie Van Halen's greatness
00:13:10
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yeah But that's kind of like what Limp Bizkit is now to
Comparing Limp Bizkit and Van Halen, Rap Legends
00:13:13
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me. They're more of a party band. And I can see them and enjoy a show with them now because it's part farcical. yeah And it's part like, all right, I'll watch Wes play guitar and fucking Fred Durst. Dress up like a fucking weirdo. Yeah, Fred Durst right around all pop bellied up eating ah a thing of chicken with a blue beard, like looking like Guy Fieri. Yeah, I'll go do that.
00:13:35
Speaker
I say the same thing. I appreciate that after all these years, they're like, yeah, they're like Primus. Primus always has that thing where they're like, yeah, we suck and we don't care. Like Limp Bizkit's like, yeah, we suck. We don't care. And I appreciate it. That's a bullshit comparison only because we suck and we don't care.
00:13:52
Speaker
West Claypool is like one of the top bases ah in the entire world. Yeah. Like that's not even up for debate.
00:14:01
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Well, Sam Rivers is pretty good, too, but he's dead now. He ain't eighty anything. um But either way, i appreciate people that are like, yeah, we suck and go fuck yourself. You know, I can get down. What's more punk rock than that? No, then they're making money. They're making money. I'm not down with that.
00:14:16
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, that's fucking terrible. That's punk rock, and I'm just not with it. um So, Richie, what do ah just because we're talking about music, have you been listening to anything new lately? Because I got i got some recommendations for you.
00:14:29
Speaker
I listened to that thing you told me to listen to. High Fidelity or something? or um No, but the Hive Eyes are great. They actually played um the Paradise two weeks ago on a Wednesday night, and I was like, fuck this shit.
00:14:45
Speaker
No, Homefront. I told you about Homefront. right Yeah, I listened to them. They're tremendous. They're so fucking good. What else? They're okay. um Who's the one? What's the one Dickie Barrett's in?
00:14:58
Speaker
The Mighty Mighty Boss Tones. Mighty Mighty Boss Tones. No. No, the Defiant. the Yeah, yeah, the Defiant. I like them. Yeah, that album's pretty good.
00:15:09
Speaker
um Not only today, the newest song I listened to, I heard that... Oh, oh, uh... da-da-da-da-da, squabble up, squabble up.
00:15:21
Speaker
Kendrick Lamar? Yeah, yeah, Kendrick Lamar. I just heard that one. just His first album, so you got to go back like 12 years or so, his first album is fucking absurdly good.
00:15:32
Speaker
Yeah, people seem to like that little fella. i but i've I've been on that train for fucking 10 years. Yeah, I'm not um not so much down. My first album is so good. My nephews turned me on to him.
00:15:44
Speaker
Squabble up, squabble up. Travis Scott and him. that's not my thats that's That's okay. But his first album is so good, dude. You should check it out. Yeah, you know, here's the thing about that. I decided I don't need to do that.
00:15:57
Speaker
and And I decided that actually as recently as yesterday because I was waiting. Nope. nope I don't need anything. If you like the old Dre stuff and all that day i had two thousand stuff, you'll like early Kendrick.
00:16:14
Speaker
50 Cent came on, and he started doing his – it was like in the club. And I was listening just to the lyrics. you know And it was really all about – that was his first hit when he first came out. was saying he was laying it down.
00:16:28
Speaker
for Dre finally. And, oh, he gets to talk like Eminem or something. And like he did this, just his slow flow that he gives. And I was like, you know what?
00:16:39
Speaker
I don't need to listen to any new rappers. These guys. He's not new. Between. muting that That's my point. He's not. They're not. He doesn't need to add any new music. 50 cent.
00:16:55
Speaker
Eminem, Dr. Dre,
Is New Music Necessary When Classics Still Thrive?
00:16:57
Speaker
Snoop. ah Those guys, no one's ever going to be as good as them. so Jay-Z. So like why do i have to listen to anybody else? It's funny you say that because I listened to Get Rich or Die Try and the whole album. It's fucking great album. And I was like, God, fuck, man. I forgot how good this whole album is. He fucking crushed that album. Yeah, dude.
00:17:17
Speaker
Fucking heat. ah oh Many men wish death upon me. I'm getting all fucking jacked off. I read something the other day that was saying how when the Iraq war was going on, he went over to do like a USO thing at like one of the most, like one of the most attacked bases that I, in Iraq that was like, would regularly get his version of that's the hip hop version of the rooster.
00:17:46
Speaker
Yeah. Like they were talking about how like it got regularly shelled daily. And when they were like flying in, the pilot was like, we might get shot out of the air today and you might die. And he was like, whatever, dude. And then he, they landed and he opened up the, uh,
00:18:00
Speaker
concert with many men with how many of those fucking army dudes and marines would run through any kind of sandcastle that was built out there that show yeah i would have they got they got pictures of him with the gis with like these huge 50 cal machine guns just like straight like pictures of dudes in the hood but they're like in iraq with fucking cannons fucking wu-tang like why have to listen to anything new who's better than these people there isn't it's just it's but it's still good that I'm going to challenge you to listen to that album because it's I bet there's songs on that that you know of and you like that you don't realize that it's him.
00:18:36
Speaker
I even get that way with bands that I like where they'll release a new album and I'm like, I don't need a new album. I like their old ones enough that I'm not yeah like when Nirvana released in utero. I'm like, come on, who needs this? But honestly, it's pretty fucking good.
00:18:50
Speaker
It's overrated.
00:18:54
Speaker
Yep. In utero is dog shit. And Uniro is, in my opinion, their third best album. Well, they only had three, right? No.
00:19:06
Speaker
Well, I'm going to be on the disagreement trade and say Nirvana was overrated completely.
Debating Nirvana's Influence and Other Overrated Bands
00:19:13
Speaker
Yeah, I know, but that's totally incorrect, and it's not even actually it's my opinion. worth having the I would agree with him and it goes into a bigger part. yeah i don't know why It goes into a bigger part where you're still here all of your favorite bands. Can you hear him more?
00:19:32
Speaker
Yep. Oh, really? All of your favorite bands. You like overrated bands is what you do. You like kiss. They're overrated. You like Nirvana. They're overrated. You like fucking i got no car red hot chili. They're overrated. Bleach was a great album.
00:19:50
Speaker
You like Guns N' Roses. They're overrated. I can't hear any. You fucking motherfuckers are packing all of us right now. That's true. I'm sorry. Richie, I got a song for you of a new band that I just started listening to that aren't my favorite band, but this is up your alley. Martin's probably heard um The band's called Slaughter to Prevail, and you should listen to the song Bratva.
00:20:12
Speaker
It's just great. They're a Russian death core band. He will just know them he will he will yeah stab himself in the ears. and That's too much for me. Yeah. there
00:20:26
Speaker
I wish our audience could see what's happening. If you didn't hear me, congratulations. Richie, you're signaling that you have something to say. that I have something to say.
00:20:38
Speaker
Please, by all means. I'd love to hear what you have to say. It's your podcast. Take the floor.
00:20:46
Speaker
Bye. What the fuck? about Stop clicking shit on your computer. You're fucking it up. He's back. Yeah. Say words.
00:21:00
Speaker
I don't know what's happening.
00:21:03
Speaker
You said you had something to say. Yeah. I don't know what the deal is. I can't hear you guys. Can you hear me? Yeah, you sound fine. So i bet they can hear you too. Imagine if everyone can hear us all, but we can't hear each other.
00:21:17
Speaker
But you guys can hear me and you can hear each other. But I can't hear either one of you. You're the problem here. Because you started clicking shit when I was talking. trying to read lips. can't.
00:21:30
Speaker
Can't read lips. Can't do it. i don't know what's happening. Rosie, can you pause this maybe? Next. What the fuck did you do just keep going.
00:21:42
Speaker
It's going to be the most fucked up podcast ever. I see what's happening here. yeah they're not going to listen I can't hear anything. All right, then move on. fuck Why don't you um tell me what we're talking about? I'll jump in. That would be fun. I
00:21:59
Speaker
i wonder if everyone can hear everyone.
Technical Difficulties and Humorous Chaos
00:22:04
Speaker
Oh, you're such a cunt. I don't know where my notepad went. Hold on. I'll change the subject because you don't want to talk at the truth about your bullshit.
00:22:11
Speaker
I'm coughing.
00:22:15
Speaker
While we're on the subject of people dying, that's what brought up Ace Frehley and Lip Biscuit. ah Our boy Duke Rufus died. Rook Dufus? Rook Dufus? That's what I was saying.
00:22:27
Speaker
Ultimately, my answer is the same thing. Mort's a douchebag. So is in Rook Dufus. Outside of that, what are we talking about? The Patriots? You really can't hear right now. I can't.