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Is Lebron the Goat with Trey Uno
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This week Trey Uno is on the podcast, we talk about his time at Overtime. How he thought he was going to make it to the league. What type of hooper was he, how he got into Content Creating. He shares some crazy stories from growing up. His love for kicks and the things he did to fit in. What he is doing now and much much more!
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Transcript
Introduction and Guest Welcome
00:00:00
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Yo, this shit fake. And i'm i'm getting I'm getting wind of it. Like, my shit ain't fake. I'm telling niggas, like, yo, here, take the shoe, take my bag. Like, don't know if you could smell, like, if something's fake, like, you could smell the leather. If it something like leather, shit fake. Like, whatever. You could, like, do shit, whatever. it Tell them, like, oh, this shit real? Like, I know my shit real, but...
00:00:17
Speaker
Now rumors last time, oh, I saw him. I saw him on Broadway buying it. I know know you lying because I never bought this. I never bought this. I stole it. He can't even afford it.
00:00:29
Speaker
We wait till my mom get her income tax yeah and then we buy it.
00:00:37
Speaker
What's good, everyone? Welcome back to My First Kicks. This episode 234, and this week, I bring to you another special guest, man, that just I ran into at a ran at a random Giannis event.
00:00:49
Speaker
Trey Uno, welcome to the podcast, man. What's up, bro? How you doing? good, man. I appreciate you. Yeah, I appreciate you. Well, one, I appreciate your aggression, because like... you i post I forgot what what episode I posted. You were like, yo, when you have me on? like I love that type of energy. yeah like i'm like I think i i did the first pod I saw was you on Jameson.
00:01:08
Speaker
yeah That's my guy. Shout out Jammo, bro. When I tell you, he's helped me in so many ways. like um I got nothing but good things to say about him. Like nothing but good things. like He sent me my first pair of free kicks when I was doing the influence stuff. So it's like, i always got love for him. So i was like, nah, my boy Jam up there.
00:01:27
Speaker
I was like, I gotta show some love. them like Like you said, we saw each other at the event. Yeah, because I remember, I remember, so if y'all don't know, I feel like I mentioned this, but like, shout out to Team Epiphany. They asked me to come out to the Gillette Giannis event. yeah And I used that deodorant for like the rest of them that year.
00:01:47
Speaker
That was my backup deodorant. You know you got have that backup deodorant. That that degree. that i think That degree came in clutch, man. Crush? Yeah. different that's That's high school. No stains on my pants. It's not an ad, though. You know what I'm saying? yeah. You got to yeah um But yeah you pulled up to you pulled up on me. And i'm this is like when during that time, too. Well, I'm still, I will say it. I'm just i'm terrible when people pull up to me. They'll be like, I listen to your podcast. I'm like...
00:02:14
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You do? Like, that's good. You for real? So, yeah, when you were like, oh, yeah, you do that podcast. I just like, yeah. And then I was like, were like, yo, follow me. And then I looked down. I'm like, shit. It's not even like that. It's not even like that. So, like, that started with, like, uh,
00:02:32
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Honestly, I'll just give you like a little overview. Wait, before you do that though. My fault, my fault. No, no, no. Yeah. Introduce yourself to the listeners. They're not familiar with you. I got
Trey's Early Aspirations and Personal Challenges
00:02:39
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you. So I'm Trey. I'm kind of like a slash content creator, social media manager. So ah um when I freelance, I do like some content creation. When I...
00:02:50
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um My my dayto day to day, I run a bunch of social media pages. That's my niche right there. that's so that's that's my That's my thing. I love it. I mean, I think I love that as much as I love basketball. Because you know, when you when you're young, you got that one thing that's like, you know, I'm going to league. i don't hear what anybody say. yeah And then when you when you get to a certain point in your life, you're like you know what? He doesn't want me just yet, you know?
00:03:14
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Let me go read a book or something. That's the, ah I call it the ah come to Jesus moment. yeah yeah I remember when I was like, yo, I'm going to the league, bro. I was in middle school and I was like, yo, I'm cooking everybody here.
00:03:31
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So you know, you watching D.Rose, you watching, you're like, that's nothing, I can do that. I'm totaling him. I'm an inch totaling him. That's life. You, not me. Nah, but man, when I tell you, Dream got shot down, but... I need to know i need to know that moment. What happened? All right, I'll tell you the moment. bit All right, so the whole thing was I'll get a bunch of scholars. I'll just give you a brief a brief overview. I'll get a bunch of scholars. Nah, don't give me no TLDR. yeah Give me the real shit.
00:03:59
Speaker
Yeah. right, bet, bet, bet. All right, so I get a bunch of scholarships coming out of ah high school, low low division one scholarships, and ah i I accept one. Like, i want I don't wanna to throw nobody under the bus. yeah I can't say to school, so.
00:04:11
Speaker
I accept one. My mom gets sick, so I'm like, you know what, let me stay close to home. That was fun. And then after that, I ain't gonna lie, my mom was just like, yo, you can either cry about it, or you can,
00:04:23
Speaker
bills gotta be paid. Like, what are you gonna do? yeah I got a job at like Fairway doing overnight stock. And again, no one knows any of this stuff about me. Then I started working at FedEx for like a year. And then one of my friends reached out to me, Sam, from Kids of Summer.
Journey into Content Creation
00:04:37
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Like it's a summer, when I was doing like summer job, when I was 15, like, hey, we doing this thing called overtime. Like we just starting up. We love your personality.
00:04:46
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Like, and obviously that's my best friend. Yeah. That's my best friend. yeah So I was just like, Why not? I feel like brawny in this moment. I'll let you be brawn. Nepotism, I'll take it. I'll take it. Why not? yeah so he now he offered me to but like He offered me a position to be like ah ah a creator. and just like yeah like They were just taking off and I was just like, cool.
00:05:08
Speaker
Man, when I tell you we took off so fast, like Overtime took all fast so off And I wasn't prepared for it. Like I'm not even trying to be funny. Like I'll walk through the streets and like, yo Trey, Overtime Trey, Trey. I'm like, I'm not that popular. Like I'm not who you think I am. Like this is not me. You're going to ask me for an autograph your mom's going to be like, who's that? But I'm so sad. I'm probably on someone's refrigerator.
00:05:37
Speaker
Somebody got you framed on their wall, bro. Who the hell is Trey? Nah, but after overtime, I got into some freelance, which was fun. Which was really fun, but Bill's got to get paid. I'm not going to you. Freelance.
00:05:51
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It's fun. No one tells you. And I'm going to tell this to everyone right now. About freelance, no one tells you you have to pay, and I know this self-explanatory, no one tells you you have to pay your own taxes. No, yeah. No one tells you that. No, but you got to hit that 1099, bro. I know, but I'm 24. true. You get what I'm saying? Like, I'm fresh out high school. i'm coming out there. I'm like, I'm the first person in my family to look like what take to go to school. You know what I'm saying? So...
00:06:14
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No one's like telling me stuff like this growing up. Like they just, so I'm just, they just, all they telling me like, you know, natural hood thing, protecting money. yeah Like don't, you know. yeah just Don't spend it crazy. Don't spend it all. Yeah. Like little things. So I'm just like, yeah.
00:06:29
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But you're here to answer the question that I ask everybody each week. And that question is, what's your first
Sneaker Culture and Personal Stories
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kicks? What's that first pair of sneakers you absolutely needed to have? Man. Since we talking money. I wouldn't say.
00:06:40
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that The first pair of kicks that I absolutely needed to have was, and don't laugh at me, because I don't know why people sleep on these shoes. Air Jordan two Nah, yeah. I was close to wearing them today. ah Bro, I don't even have a pair.
00:06:53
Speaker
No? Bro, when I tell you, I've always, because have three older brothers. They never let me. i used to wear their shoes all the time. i have a bunch of stories about that, by the way. But I used to wear their shoes. When I say all the time, bro, like, I wait till they go to sleep. Oh, school's today? me throw these on.
00:07:07
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But yeah, bro, my first, I'll never forget my first pair kicks that my mom bought me. Because remember, you when you were the youngest, you got a lot of hand-me-downs. i was in like fourth grade, I want to say. Mm-hmm. Man, pair of N1s, all white.
00:07:20
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Let's go. All white. You in the schoolyard. I'm 4'7". didn't get my growth spurt to a allow. I'm so I used to get bullied. I'm not going to lie. I used to get bullied a lot. While this kid just, man, he like, oh, you got the N1s on? Pointed at my feet, started laughing.
00:07:38
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Bro, and then stepped on ketchup next to my feet. Ketchup all over my M1s. Bro, you would've thought you poured acid on my 1s. Yo, know and that's crazy. I'll be sick. When I tell you these little eight-year-olds are hoodlums, like, bro, you just woke up one day and decided, like, you know what? He got white shoes on. let me throw some ketchup on them. That's crazy.
00:08:01
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Bro. One, it's crazy that you say ketchup that way. Yeah, but I'm from New York. Ketchup. ah from new york i It's ketchup, man. Ketchup. You said ketchup. Ketchup.
00:08:17
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That is violent. Even in the school yard, like I mean, yes. ah oh what was the ah Everybody would be like, they'll do like, well, Fresh Cut. You remember Fresh Cut? Yeah, the bean is crazy. Slap me in the back of the bean.
00:08:31
Speaker
oh But like doing that to white shoes like think I remember there was I think I remember there was a thing for like you pull up with white ups. That's what I'm saying. And people were like oh you got and you be like yo first day you got watch out. That's what I'm saying. always happens when you're trying to protect your shoes like you know don't want nobody stepping on them. Not everybody stepping Yeah.
00:08:50
Speaker
Nobody was stepping on the shit that I was wearing yesterday though. The Air Max is from 92. Like. Like nobody was stepping on those, but it was cool. No, it wasn't. That wasn't cool. Nah, it's not cool. It's not cool, but I was eight. Like I can't like, I'm mad as shit right now. Nah, but man, I mean, going going back to what you just said about my speech impediment.
00:09:13
Speaker
Nah, that's not what I was doing, man. Nah, don't pronounce the ERs in any of the words I say Nah? Yeah, I don't pronounce any of Like when I say butter, I say butter. yeah i say Butter. butter Yeah, like, ah who pronounces E-R's? don't even know. You know what I mean? In Quentin Tarantino movies, E-R's coming out. yeah, yeah.
00:09:35
Speaker
I don't know I'm saying with them. You know what I'm saying the Caprio from Django he said it. Nah, but what you saying about your brothers? Like, how did how did that, like, did they put you on a sneaker? Yeah, yeah, yeah, my my brother, ah i'm honestly, I'm not a, even to this day, I'm not a big sneakerhead. Like, obviously, if you want send me a pair, like, I'll take them.
00:09:54
Speaker
um but nine times out of ten I'm not gonna know what they are. right So I'm just gonna be like, oh these are the threes. I don't know which ones but I know these are the threes. So my brothers, they used they used to have all the J's. My favorite were the Space Jam nines. Space Space Jam nines?
00:10:10
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Space Jam 11s. Nah bro, I don't know why. The nines just... I don't know. Was it... it was it was it a No, it wasn't He Got Game. He Got Game was the He Got Games. Those were 13s. Those 13s. Chicago Whites. I don't even know what it was. I just sold dicks. Talk about Flint's?
00:10:26
Speaker
Bro. but With the blue? Nah. Now you got me searching. Nah, nah, nah. He Got Games are the ones I'm talking about. I'm just saying, I don't know what made me fall in love with them is what I'm trying say, though. But like... Those are the only nines that I like. like those are Those are my favorite pair Jordans.
00:10:41
Speaker
Second, any type of ones. I love ones. like any not I mean, not low tops or mids, but you know what I mean. yeah like I ah love ones. Low tops are fire. Especially now because they redid them.
00:10:51
Speaker
Yeah, low tops are fire. fire yeah and Speaking of, the the only actually the only pair low tops I have was a pair that, I'm looking at the camera cause it's for you, Jameson. There's a pair that Jameson sent me, all white, all white ah Jays when he was at Foot Locker like three years ago. So that's probably the only pair of low tops I have.
00:11:09
Speaker
Hey man, the only pair of low tops I have are the Cactus Jack like chocolate joints. Bro said the only like most efficient pair though. You know what? Let me not.
00:11:20
Speaker
You got it, bro. What do you mean? I got lucky. That was it. That's the only ones. I'm to ask you the question now. Tell me about your first pitch. I answer this question so much because a lot of people, they like turning that question on to me whenever I'm on their stuff. yeah But the the first, the one that I always tell, I'll tell the other one i because I have two. There's the one that introduced me into sneaker culture and then there's one that got me into sneakers. okay right But I just never could afford an in-between. So when I finally got my first job at GameStop, then i was like, I got own money.
00:11:54
Speaker
Let's get it So I i came, i was just like, yo, I've been hearing a lot about Nike SBs to myself. This is me talking to myself. I talk to myself a lot. I'm only child. I talk to myself all the time. A lot of like a lot of people do that. The ones white rooms. Strapped up strapped up and And so i um I was just like, a let me do some research before I get my first pair. Then I'm like i'm a cop. And then I copped the khaki SBs.
00:12:17
Speaker
And they, like, till this, like, That opened up this like world. It was like Pandora's box. As soon as I opened that box, I was like, so yeah, because then because what happened was when I when I started like Googling about Nike SB and like Cause I'm a big skateboard fan. Like i love skateboarding. looks' like Once you said SB, I already knew. i already knew. Yeah.
00:12:42
Speaker
Like I got this story. ah We were my best friend. You what I'm saying? We were my best friend. Right. We, and we get, this is the first time I ever smoked weed. Right. This is how much, this is how much of um of a skating fan I am. Right. Okay. Okay. So we smoke weed and I'm over here. we He's like, yo, I'm going to put on Fully Flared, um and ah which is like one of the best like ah skateboard movies where it's got all the like explosions and shit in the beginning. And then I get high and I'm fucked.
00:13:09
Speaker
And I'm watching this and I'm just naming all the tricks. Oh, yeah, switch leave back. like i'm like i'm like, this is this is me right here. good boy, look. Yeah, he's like, oh he's like, who the fuck is this? Bro, you want me to get you a skateboard? Couldn't skate, can't skate for the rest my life. Like, can't skate for- You're not skating in them Cactus Jacks though, right?
00:13:27
Speaker
Nah. All right, but you're skating. I know you say can't skate, but don't do that. Don't do that. And so, yeah, that led me to NikeSB.org, which is a forum. And then that forum brought me to like Nike Talk and all that stuff. And That's where it opened up sneaker culture for me, where I fell in love with it because then you hear about, there's this whole ton of story, there's mad stories about how did we get here and how do we become a community and how do we push culture forward and now we here with this podcast. Yeah, that's fine. I said it before we started,
00:14:00
Speaker
It's dope. like I don't know how many times I was like, set. I'm proud of you, though. real. I feel like i but we met, like it's probably our second, third time meeting. I feel like I second like ah ah for like i knew you for a while. You feel me? Nah, man, that's crazy. i Again, don't know how to take compliments, but I appreciate that. Nah, nah, nah, nah. You got it, bro. You good. That's how we hear.
00:14:23
Speaker
Nah, so yeah. So you went from the he got game nines. Then what is the other... was there What other sneakers you stealing from your brothers? Not on anything. yeah Like, I'll tell you another story like about that. So...
00:14:35
Speaker
When I was in ninth grade, I swear, there was this rumor, like, my brother just graduated from Bushwick. So he just graduated. He was like, yo, go to Bushwick. This is the best, like like, around that time, this is the best option for you. yeah Obviously, I'm not thinking of going to Bushwick for basketball. i'm just thinking, all right, I just want go to school. Let me go to my zone school. i live over here. Let me just go to my zone school. That's what I'm thinking. Like, I'm ah ah i'm not thinking about nothing crazy. So,
00:14:59
Speaker
he had a reputation. Like he boxed, he was always fly, pretty boy, like whatever. Pretty boy Matt, that was his, whatever. Shout out, shout out pretty boy Matt. So when i get there, they like,
00:15:14
Speaker
so Like, that's your brother? Yeah, I knew you. I'm like, yo, man, got to start wearing your shoes, bro. He's like, nah. Like, what you mean? No. Man, he'll go to work.
00:15:25
Speaker
He'll leave. Anything he'll do, go to training, whatever, I'll take it. I know I'm going to get my ass beat when I get back. but my reputation is at stake, you feel me? You get my I get my ass beat from you, or everybody in school just gonna cloud me for the next four years. This is my freshman year, I need to come crazy. yeah And when I tell you I violated, a bro, I ain't take nothing casual, I ain't take... I fucked up.
00:15:46
Speaker
i I ain't take no Jordans, i't take I ain't take nothing crazy. I took his Prada's. What?
00:15:57
Speaker
Holy smoke. I took his Prouders. I took his Gucci's. Oh my God. took his Louis bag. I went, when I tell y'all went crazy, everybody's like, yo, freshman year, fly skin in school.
00:16:09
Speaker
Ah, so now let me tell you the juke let me tell you the juicy part. Yeah, okay. Now niggas is hatin'. yeah They're like,
Rumors and Image Management
00:16:15
Speaker
oh, this shit fake. And I'm i'm getting i'm getting wind of it, like, my shit ain't fake.
00:16:19
Speaker
I'm telling niggas, like, yo, here, take the shoe, take my back, like, don't know if you could smell, like, if something's fake, like, you could smell the leather, if something's like, leather, shit fake, like, whatever. You could, like, do shit, whatever, tell them, like, oh, this shit real? Like, I know my shit real, but,
00:16:32
Speaker
Now rumors last time, oh, I saw him. I saw him on Broadway buying it. Now know you lying because ain't never bought this. yeah I never bought this. I stole it.
00:16:43
Speaker
He can't even afford it. We wait till my mom get her income tax. yeah And then we buy it. Thanks for checking out this week's episode with Trey. hope you've been enjoying it. My man mad funny. but Don't forget, you can help this podcast by liking, subscribing, and leaving a comment on this episode as you're listening or watching this episode.
00:17:04
Speaker
And if you're listening to it on Apple and Spotify or wherever you are listening to it audially, please leave a review and share it with your friends. But if you are interested,
00:17:17
Speaker
Don't forget, check out that Patreon. I got episodes one through 10 on there. oh you can only find it on there. I got new content coming on there this week. I will be recording stuff when I'm in Detroit later in the month.
00:17:31
Speaker
I still have stuff from Portland that's going up there from my time out there with Aaron and AD. But back to the episode. and We buy it. Like I can say this now. Don't kill me, bro. You got bread.
00:17:43
Speaker
So I can say this now. You got money now. Back then we had shit. So I can say this now. But bro, when I tell you, you but like, you know what it's like to not have any shoes, right? I don't have no shoes. I have no shoes, but my brother got all the nice shit. Right. So I'm wearing all nice shit and people still clowning I'm like, what the fuck? Yeah, that's crazy. a bra and That gives you like a a weird complex Yeah, but like this the first time I said out loud, so I hope when people see this, they they know like, oh, those are his brother's kids.
00:18:13
Speaker
yeah they I ain't wanna justify, I'm not gonna explain myself to you like bro, like whatever bro. Cool, cool, but then honestly that dwindled down like 10th, obviously like 10th grade, grade, stopped wearing his stuff. I started, I just started going to school like Nike slide, cause started hooping. yeah You know, Nike slide, track pants and...
00:18:31
Speaker
they they didn't They forgot where wore it. I was like, damn, i even need do all that my freshman year. This getting my ass beat for no reason. my question is, where you were you the hooper? Are you the hooper that pulls up with the snacks? Facts.
00:18:43
Speaker
You the one that's like... Bro, I am... um You eating hot Cheetos being like, all right, let me drop 30 on you. Let me tell you right now, when I was in high school, Lance Stevenson was my favorite player. Uh-huh. That's the type of hooper i was. I'm trying to tell. Like, bro, I talk. You know, the crazy thing is, people that watch me hoop today, they probably like, yo, like you one of the nicest people in the world. like I'm not aggressive. don't talk crazy. don't do none of that.
00:19:06
Speaker
But i'm i'm I'm not proactive. right I'm a reactive. You feel me? yeah So when I'm on the court, I'm chilling until you say something. but Like, I'm i'm cool like until you say something.
00:19:16
Speaker
But I don't say nothing, you know what's good? don't say nothing like, oh you tried, I say little things like, you gonna keep shooting? You done missed three in a row. I'm gonna let you take the next one. I'm like saying little jabs out there. You as bad as me. That's the same shit I do. Nah, you don't do the, he can't shoot until it's like four shots. Yeah, like missed two in a row. Oh, he can't shoot. I'm happy he missed that shit. Because if he's talking shit to me, you making your shots, I'm like, damn, you might be nice, I ain't gonna tell you. I ain't gonna tell you. That's the most quiet game you can get out of me, bro. You trash, bro. Busting my ass.
00:19:55
Speaker
Hey, damn, bro. You busting my ass. You about to 40. I'm i' i'm just here not playing aggressive. yeah What did what is you use the hoop in? was your favorite shoe to hoop in? ah Kobe's, I've always sprayed my ankles.
00:20:09
Speaker
But Kobe's I would say, just cause i i I'm more of like a look good, play good type of person. Like I know that sounds crazy or, what do women say now? Sassy. yeah Oh my God, can't do shit without being sassy bro. yeah Shit bro, can't even sneeze bro.
00:20:26
Speaker
Like nah, bro put his head in his shirt. You can't even sneeze like that, all right. I don't want to touch topics that we can't touch. Let me stop. Let me stop. All right, but bro.
00:20:43
Speaker
I was just, it's funny. Funny you say that. I was literally listening to this podcast where they talked about, did you see the list? Nah. Like, that there's just like a list going on. I know about that list. Yeah. But I heard, but they were just talking about, ah not to switch the topic, but like, but they just, they were talking about painting nails and how um homie from Philly.
00:21:00
Speaker
Homie from Philly, homie from Houston, homie from Philly, homie from the, like, Pelican. Yo, bro, everyone's doing it. Yeah. Everyone. and i And like, the, ah it's like,
00:21:11
Speaker
theyre They're in the podcast I was listening to. Shout out to the jam. But like the podcast they were talking they were talking about like, oh, you know, the most the most loudest people that talk about it are the people that are insecure about themselves. So, you know what the shit is, bro? I get manicures and pedicures all the time. That's the thing. But bro, instead of getting clear and air polish, so get a shiny buff. Mm hmm. Like, people who get their nails, they know what I'm talking about.
00:21:35
Speaker
Like, cause there's no polish, there's nothing on it. it looks shiny, looks clean, shiny bob, say nothing wrong. But hey, I'm not gonna knock nobody out like their nails done. But the coloring of the nails, that like like like, that is where, I don't know, I don't know. I'm not touching that topic. I'm not, like, I'm not.
00:21:59
Speaker
I'm not touching that topic. I don't have to touch on that topic, but. Nah, so yeah, all right. So back to when you were hooping. Back to when you were hooping. Hey man, I'm on salary now. I'm happy here. Fuck, I'm gonna take my job. Fuck. Ah, fuck. Look, look, look. Look, I have friends that paint their nails. don't really care. It's just not mine. I wouldn't do it for me. That's it.
00:22:21
Speaker
That's it, friends I paint. All right. I don't think we have the same. No, we definitely don't. No. ah yeah um ah But I mean, hey, I get shiny buff. That's all I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't even do my nails, so I can't even talk.
00:22:36
Speaker
Oh, I think, no, I think, oh. So I can't talk. I thought you were going to have yellow or some shit. Nah, yeah, all right. All right, so hooping. You was hooping in Kobe's a lot? like Oh, a lot.
00:22:49
Speaker
I sprained my ankle a lot in Kobe's. LeBron's my favorite player. LeBron's the GOAT, by the way. Okay. this is thiss Just, so before it gets too heated in here, but let's get one thing straight.
00:22:59
Speaker
LeBron is the bad
Basketball Legends and Influence
00:23:01
Speaker
goat. You feel me? We're not getting into this topic. hey He could be, he he I would say in the era. already know people would say you glazing. I ah now in don't care. In his era, he's definitely the goat.
00:23:13
Speaker
I say in eras. In eras. Like there's different eras. Absolutely. There's different eras in basketball. Yeah, we're not going to talk anything. I'll give the 80s credit because... Whatever, I'll give the 80s credit. I'm not giving... No, I'll give the 70s credit because Larry Bird... No?
00:23:28
Speaker
What were they? Early 80s? and I think that's early 80s. Oh, yeah. So, yeah. 80s. Because then... Larry Bird and up. Larry Bird and up. Yeah, Larry Bird and up. larry larry Larry and Magic and up Yeah, not Archibald and all them...
00:23:39
Speaker
I don't know, none of them babies. None them babies. No Archmold, no Rick Barry. None of them other hand shit. None of that shit. I just think there's different eras. I do make the joke that, ah like you you ever heard that joke where they always say that Michael Jordan played with plumbers and electricians? Yeah, nah, nah, nah. That's why I don't want to say the 80s, because I respect 80s and 90s. I respect that I respect the era of basketball, but...
00:24:06
Speaker
i To be 100% honest, like I can't go into like who's the GOAT debate because I don't have a fair response. like LeBron got me to watch basketball. like I didn't start watching the NBA until 2006. So it's like it's it's very unfair for me to say who's the. Nah, yeah. I don't get into anything. Because watched Kobe play when he was winning rings with the Lakers. I never watched Jordan play because I was too young. so it's like...
00:24:27
Speaker
Y'all not. The thing is, all right. But it's also when you are when you are a fan of a team, that team is always going to, that bias of being the fan of the team. Like, if you be like, yo, who's your favorite player? For me, Larry Johnson. Larry Johnson is the one that got He's strong ass. Yeah.
00:24:43
Speaker
The dude from New Orleans. Yeah. Why you like this? He's a football player, bro. Because he was in Space Jam? No. Because when he was on the Knicks, that's who got me to tune the He was on the Knicks? Yeah. know that. Oh, my God. I'm going to clip this. This game clip. I'll do you a one better. I'm born in New York, and I don't like the Knicks.
00:25:04
Speaker
That's fine. then you I saw you in that that that Brooklyn Nets jersey. and Because KD. See, bro, I'm telling you, it's all. Like, my love for basketball players all over the place. and Because LeBron's a goat. Yeah.
00:25:16
Speaker
But Kevin Durant, like, bro, he's a monster. He's up there, bro. And this is the only thing I hate about basketball. And i know um I know we on like sneaker top stinker topics, though, but this GOAT... Yeah, we here now. Yeah, this GOAT debate kills me. Let me tell you why.
00:25:32
Speaker
LeBron is undoubtedly the GOAT. And I don't care what anybody say. It's just, and it could be a hot take. Correct me if I'm wrong. No one just likes the way he plays. that's Like how it looks. You what I'm saying? Forget the passing.
00:25:45
Speaker
Forget the... yeah If you took every single shot that he took, dunk, jump shots, all that, and just had Kobe take it, Jordan take it, anyone take it, It looks better. It looks better. The fadeaway. You watch LeBron shoot a fadeaway, it's ugliest shit you've seen in the world. He's mad stiff. It's the ugliest shit because he's so strong though. But it doesn't look like you don't want to see it because it's like, I don't want watch him play. I think that's why. think. I could be wrong, but there's a hundred other reasons why people don't think he's the goal. I mean, when you're at the top, you're going to be... Everybody's going to try to find a way to bring down. I'm you know he's at the top, though. I mean, I said in this era. In this era. He's undoubtedly in this era. All right, so Ever, who's your goat?
00:26:25
Speaker
I'd still say Jordan. You say, do pick Jordan on him. Yeah. because i I can't say that. And it's not. And no reason why. And it's not fair to Jordan. Because the game changed. different games, yeah. It's not fair. if and And I'm not saying, you know how people, drop this player anyway.
00:26:39
Speaker
And that's what I mean. If you drop LeBron back then, it won't be fair because the game evolved. If you drop Jordan here today, it'll take him a minute ah year, maybe more to... No, no, no, no, no no no say it's not and no yeah i'm i'm dragging yeah i'll say like a month to to learn to sham god a month to like his big ass hands that should probably take him the day just just forget everything i'm saying jordan live boy no you what like now i just feel i say what you saying about k d like There's no flaws in his game. I can't say nothing about KD. That's my thing.
00:27:13
Speaker
So then how is he not the GOAT? How is he not the GOAT? I don't know. That's why I said KD. He's not the GOAT because of the fucking Warrior decision. But who cares? I don't care. don't even think that's him. don't give shit. It's basketball because no one said nothing they was about to lose to Houston. They weren't a super team when they was about to lose to Houston. That's what I'm saying. So...
00:27:33
Speaker
I think it's just like the way KD, to me it's more- Nah, I think to me it's the other shit. It's the way he moves. Like the way- Off the court shit? Yeah. I think that- I love that shit. What's wrong? There are people that love it and there are that it. It's not on basketball shit though. How did that affect He could still be the GOAT and talk shit on the side. But I think... Yeah. He don't got PR person. That's what it is. That's definitely part. I think a lot of that clouds people's judgment of his game.
00:27:59
Speaker
You know? So it's like... that that like ah To me, i think pound for pound. like To me, he was... This is going to crazy. He's like the Mayweather of basketball. This is going to sound absolutely crazy.
00:28:11
Speaker
All right. I'm going to be honest with I got you. I think he's... I think he's the more honed Mello. Like, the way he scores. Like... Mello's... Mello's... Mello's my guy.
00:28:27
Speaker
But I think KD... Like, he He is pound for pound the best score above Melo. Yes. Yes, I think so. I agree.
00:28:39
Speaker
Because i i think ah later in the years, his athleticism did. He got injured. like I mean, speaking of that injury, i don't know if you remember. with The first game back, didn't he dunk on somebody, Melo, on Utah?
00:28:51
Speaker
I don't um don't think he, that he was like, I'm back. Remember? He boomed it on him. I don't know. But whatever. ain't coming at your athleticism, Mellow. You like that. You my guy too. No, no, we love Mellow here. This is Mellow. Hopefully, eventually, get Mellow on this podcast. But yes, he's one of my, he's top five in my eyes. So, yeah, yeah, yeah. Mellow's that guy. Like, I watched him play, so he's that guy. So, but I just, man, KD was out the gate. Like,
00:29:19
Speaker
He was is one of the scariest players I've ever watched. Because I'm a Spurs fan, but LeBron's my favorite player. yeah So he torched both. yeah'll yeah you got You always torched the Spurs. And always to and no one's like, I'm not afraid. LeBron's my favorite player. He torches LeBron every time he plays. him It's hard to guard that.
00:29:36
Speaker
Yeah. The release point. that yeah that's that that you That's what I'm saying. Because like even with Melo. He's legit seven feet. Yeah. And even with Melo. Melo's legit six nine. Yeah. But Melo's shot was more of like. ah It's beautiful. The prettiest shot in basketball. Yeah. just beautiful.
00:29:52
Speaker
While KD's. Nothing think else moves but this. Yeah. Exactly. And he's automatic, right? Automatic. So KD's like, it's a hole coming up. And you're like, there's no way to box this. There's no way. Bro, like.
00:30:04
Speaker
So imagine Melo with that jump shot, with that height, with that seven. That would have been crazy. Melo had the jump shot. No, he had his jump shot. But I'm saying if he had KD's reach, if he had the rancher little arms, Melo would have been crazy. Yeah, that's like, I mean, I feel like,
00:30:25
Speaker
KG was a lot like that early in his years. we don't We don't speak about KG. You don't like KG? I like KG. I like KG. I don't like Paul Pierce. anyway I don't know who's that. We don't have speak about him. But KG, he...
00:30:38
Speaker
he oh I feel like he changed the game kind of like power forwards like that because no one was putting a ball on the floor like him like that. At least I don't think so. Because again, that's before my time of basketball. At least don't think so.
00:30:51
Speaker
I can't even name a power forward during that time when he was like dominating could that. That's what I'm saying. Because everybody, we were still coming out of the big guy Shaq. So imagine KG being KD. That's literally what happened. KD grew up like, yo, I wanna put the ball on the floor. I don't wanna be in the post.
00:31:05
Speaker
But he was also playing in such competitive- Catch and shoot. Yeah, but he was playing in such a competitive, like that era of basketball was super competitive. terms of Everything is, there's no space. yeah there There's nothing. And then it was just like, you can't get in the inside because everybody's big. yeah If you had no post game, it was like clearly impossible he and nobody was shooting crazy. three so everything was like mid range. Like you had to be clutching the mid range. You had to be like super dead end to like, oh, ah like pushing people out the box and stuff, playing bully ball. Like bully ball was every- I just thought about that DeMarcus Cousins meme. yeah
00:31:40
Speaker
yeah and I feel like a lot of people would have done that to KD earlier in his years. Like bro, why you in the post? hey man And KD said that himself. He's like, hey, um like I was a catch shoot player. I was an assistant player when I came to the league. just ran floppy all day. Yeah. Like, that's all they did.
00:31:54
Speaker
Shout out 2K. That's how I know floppy. Shout out 2K. Running plays on been running floppy all day. Let me get my screen. Come on. So you be hooping. You do be hooping currently or like before. No, I still. Yeah, yeah. Have you played anybody in in the NBA?
00:32:10
Speaker
um
00:32:14
Speaker
I want to say yes. as so I'll tell this story. I hate this. All right, so in, don't know if you remember, in 2000, what was the year LeBron was about to leave? His last year, 2010. He came out here, he went to Chelsea Piers, and then I think he went to Dallas game right after. While he was at Chelsea P. This is the year of the decision?
00:32:37
Speaker
I think the year, right, that
Playing Against LeBron and Overtime's Growth
00:32:39
Speaker
year. Yeah. Yeah, but but it was last year on Cleveland, so it had to be that year. Oh, yeah. So then, yeah, that's the year of the decision. No one knew that, though, because everyone's trying to, like, when he's out here, they're, like, trying to get him to come to New York. Yeah, yeah, yeah. This is also, like, I think right before the season.
00:32:51
Speaker
So he goes to Chelsea P. He's promoting his new shoe. And they have three kids come on the court. I'm one of those kids. They, like, play LeBron one-on-one, beating three. Yeah. So I'm like, game, that's it.
00:33:03
Speaker
But the catch is you can only shoot a three of many in the layup. That's the only way you get the points. okay LeBron's ball first. Half court shot. Cash.
00:33:15
Speaker
Where, in Brooklyn? Brooklyn, Chelsea Pierce. Oh no, Chelsea Pierce in Manhattan. Oh, sorry, sorry. you Not Brooklyn, sorry, Manhattan. Yeah, fault. So in Chelsea Pierce, New York. Sorry, I meant New York. Nah, nah, nah, nah. That's me, that's me. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:33:27
Speaker
So, first shot, cash, half court. Second shot, cash, half court. Bro, it's a high school like court court. yeah You know Chelsea Pins not like NBA court. yeah But still, bro, i' like it's it was funny the first time. The second time, it's like about to get zipped in front of everybody.
00:33:42
Speaker
Like, nah. You only get one shot at him Yeah, but bro. ah Yeah, I'm 15. They just grab three random kids out the crowd. like They give you a shirt, they give you shoes. like I was hype. I was just there for love.
00:33:54
Speaker
So... Bro, when I tell you, I'm thinking he gonna shoot another third. Like he pumps fake. I'm not gonna lie, didn't wanna say I jumped, but I did a little jump. I did a little jump.
00:34:04
Speaker
Boy took off. yeah Took off. Might as well dunk from half court. I'm exaggerating. I know sound like them old heads I talk about Jordan. But when I say this man took off, it might have been a free throw line, Doug. We gotta find that footage, man. Cause I will post it. yeah like i Like I need to find that footage, but honestly, probably the most embarrassing moment of my life.
00:34:24
Speaker
ah He did the the kids the same way after. i don't think he i think he shot regular threes or whatever. Nobody scored. Nobody scored. Nobody scored, bro. It was crazy. and i i pulled He pulled the Michael Jordan fucking Bro, was so much of a groupie, bro.
00:34:37
Speaker
They was like, let me tell you why. like I probably shouldn't have started off like that. but so I was so much of a groupie, bro. was so happy I lost. like I was just like, yo, that was a great game. And he's just like...
00:34:50
Speaker
Next. yeah but yeah was very like So like when he's leaving, it I wasn't supposed to go to the side. So like i'm like i'm on the I'm on the sideline of the court with all the kids that get picked out or whatever. yeah And like there's a tunnel for him to leave, like him leaving on his car. I'm like, I'm going to say bye to LeBron. Like I said, I was a groupie. I ain't going fret. So he's leaving, everybody's like, hey, lebra LeBron, LeBron, trying to get a five.
00:35:15
Speaker
yeah We make eye contact. I put my hand out. Why bro just dap my hand up? Oh no. oh sick because I You should have grabbed it. You should have awkward turtled him.
00:35:31
Speaker
ain't hold it, but I, he was like, this, I was like, it was a quick, it was a quick, I was like, my I ain't gonna do that. That would be bad for that, he goes home, he's like, yo this kid just gave me like the weirdest handshake. Bro, cause I, nah, I thought he was gonna dab me up, and I'm like, yo, that's LeBron, what do I do?
00:35:48
Speaker
i ain't wanna close, like, nah, bro, was like, shit, I gotta hold him. Oh, man, that is crazy. I gotta, nah, nah, bud. Yeah, that was probably one of my favorite experiences to be honest. I was my favorite player. So I used to like ah pay to go to stuff like that. actually, damn, I should have asked my aunt.
00:36:06
Speaker
But ah my aunt the next day got a picture with him and she spoke about the moment, brought it up and everything. He was like, he was super grateful that I came. and But yeah, um he's i'll say I'll send it to you because I know you're going to edit it. I'll send you, the she took a picture with him, got his autograph. I'll send that to you.
00:36:20
Speaker
But if you guys can find that video, shit. Yeah, you got to look for that video. If you're out there, you're watching this and I don't find the video first, but yeah.
00:36:30
Speaker
That's a crazy experience. That lives with you for a hot minute. Bro, what? It still lives with me. You asked me, why play against the NBA player? Yeah, got cooked. Yes, I got cooked.
00:36:42
Speaker
Because I know overtime now and you know your time with overtime. Oh, Taco Fall. You just reminded me when I did overtime. That's on YouTube. You can find that in seconds. A dunk contest against Taco Fall.
00:36:55
Speaker
Yeah, and... Bro, he was cheating. I'm not gonna say nothing. Watch you see, watch y'all see that shit. He was cheating, bro. Nah, I'm say it now, because I'm mad as shit. yeah so So we doing the overtime challenge and we get Taco Fall on.
00:37:08
Speaker
And they like, oh, ah we gonna play, I think it's horse or something. Yeah, we playing horse, but we spelled dunk. Yeah, yeah, yeah, So I think it's like, I'll do a windmill, he do a windmill, like stupid shit like that. But I'll do a windmill.
00:37:22
Speaker
And he'll go like this without jumping and just dunk it. Like, bro, when you see the video, I'm not exaggerating. When you see the video, he's doing dunks without jumping. and does like Does that count? he would They were counting it because obviously for the, um don't care if you watching Taco, you're not in the league. So like, fun of they were like, oh, you got to let him win.
00:37:40
Speaker
I gotta let him win for it. Turn the jump. yeah like Because obviously they paying for talent to be there. don't know paying for him, but like he in the league. But whatever. like italian So I'm like, oh, I gotta let him win for it.
00:37:51
Speaker
like Fuck that. like yeah It should be competition. That's what I'm saying. like Let me. like let me That is crazy. But I'm not lie, all jokes aside, all jokes aside, it was fun. yeah it was It was really fun. like I got a chance to but whoop against Taco. like no it was It was fun.
00:38:07
Speaker
He's tall as shit. i That's what I'm saying, yeah. Yeah, watch when you see the video. yeah His head cropped out. but excuse Like, watch. That's insane. the i mean, so yeah, what like working well overtime you know like now,
00:38:19
Speaker
they now they're doing like leagues and shit. like yeah You were in there before the league. you like what What was that like seeing that that grow? ah bob Watch that happen. oh I mean this ah think this is public knowledge. i even um ah miss ah Kobe and David Stern were public like they were investors yeah into the league. they were going to like david so Just think about David Stern publicly saying going to be the co-commissioner of the OTE. He just left the NBA. so You know the eyes already...
00:38:48
Speaker
So just like this, they were gonna go crazy, bro. It sucked that obviously things happened the way it happened and COVID happened. And then, yeah remember they were still a startup at the time. So we know that right now. I'm just curious. Cause like the, I mean, we know about the mixtape era of basketball, like Duncan Demix and all that. Like the iPhone. yeah Yeah. So like seeing how over time, like took that content and made it into something like,
00:39:14
Speaker
You know, you, you, were you, you were part of that too. Like, you know, so like, you know, the, that was that the, the, the, prop the pra the did that propel you into like content creating because of like seeing all the, the mixtapes and all that stuff.
00:39:30
Speaker
Honestly, i want say I want to give a huge shout out to Dan Porter. He's the CEO. Huge shout out. like I ah never saw him as a boss. He's always like a friend. like Super cool guy. Super sarcastic.
00:39:43
Speaker
I don't know who to compare him to, which is pretty funny. i'm just But whatever. like Very Office vibes. know, the show The Office. yeah Super funny. Nah, he's no Michael Scott. he's no micro scott He's the complete opposite. I'm telling you, like like you know how people are like, you're the smartest man in the He's the smartest man. Uh-huh.
00:40:00
Speaker
like Whatever, CEO. But the first time I had an interview with Overtime, like interview, remember when was talking to my boy, was like, hey. But the first time, he sits me down and he's like, hey, you wouldn't show up with all that shit all over your face. Like just to kill the, because used to make skits. And I used to put like the, you know, Tyrone Biggums, I used to put the cracking shit all over my face.
00:40:24
Speaker
Bro, you know i'm how embarrassed I was when he brought that up? He brought that up. As soon as I sat down in the interview, we we didn't even sit down an interview, like a real interview. He sat next, like we just talked. It was so cool. like He like broke the ice in like a, cause he knew I think he knew I was nervous. like I think I'm like, shit, like i never bring I never went corporate. I just told you. I did Uber, Fairway. FedEx. This is like your first... Yeah, this is like mom this like my big break. I'm like, nobody's taking chances on me, so what going to do with my life? right So he know I'm nervous. I sit down, sweating, and he's like he's just like, oh, I'm happy you're covering all that shit all over you. He just made me like he made me laugh. like
00:41:01
Speaker
Cool as fuck, bro. we're not Wait, what is... So like i don't I don't know about the content before Overtime. What were you making? What were you putting out? was just... Literally just trying to be funny, bro. yeah Like, you know how people just make skits? I i will make a skit about anything. yeah Like, anything. I'll just get inspiration from, like, movies.
00:41:18
Speaker
Mostly, like, scary movies. Not actual scary movies, like, but scary movie one, scary movie two, scary movie. Like, parody movies. yeah So I will always make parody videos. Always. Like, if Nike made a commercial, doom.
00:41:31
Speaker
Like I made like a parody video to like just like skits and then Shae Room posted a few of them. I got to go for a few times. So that's like my friend didn't just be like, hey, you're my friend. He was like, nah, you good at what you do. So we need a content creator. So I just wanted, you know, cause lot y'all gonna be like, oh, he got shit handed. So ain't get shit handed to me. I'm joking. joking. I'm joking.
00:41:54
Speaker
Nah, but there's a lot of no's, though. I'm not going to lie. But before that, I'm just skipping all the no's. Nah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, but that room right there, that conversation, bro, changed my life forever. Because like they took a chance on me when they didn't need to. didn't show up with any degrees or anything like that, bro. And they was just like, nah. like And the thing is with them,
00:42:15
Speaker
like they put me in ah like around the social team and like that's how I learned everything. yeah Like I learned everything like that. Like ah I sat next to that and get like the person who's running the engagement. i sat I sat next to everyone who's posting every fucking day. So I'm just like, yo, I'm gonna soak all this in. right I'm gonna soak all this in. And had me um go on go on the podcast.
00:42:39
Speaker
I forgot how it started. I was on the Instagram one day and to make a story. And and i was just still signed in. But i I'm not going to lie. They know this story. So this is not news. And I commented on the on on a thing from my personal account overtime. Yeah. I forgot what I said. Like,
00:42:54
Speaker
I don't know what I said, but then i think I switched accounts. don't remember. don't remember. I said something crazy. I had like 7,000 likes. And then the next day, people were like, overtime, roast me, roast me, roast me. Please roast me.
00:43:08
Speaker
like They would say things like, because I said something crazy. I i said something crazy like, Oh bro, do you think, like somebody was like, do you think I ever make it to the NBA? I was like, maybe if you get like taller than your locker. Some, wow, cause he was standing outside his locker. That was the only picture he had. Some stupid shit. And you were just scrolling on the page? And I said that from the overtime. when when Bro, when i thought I was going to fired, bro,
00:43:30
Speaker
They called me into the office. They was like, hey, so da was this you yesterday? I was like yeah, I'm so sorry. didn't mean to do that. Shout out Allie, the GOAT. She was like my work mom. Love Allie. but ah she was like oh She was like, hey, did you do this? I was like, yeah, I'm sorry. I didn't mean to do that.
00:43:44
Speaker
She was like, no, we didn't love it. She was like, can you keep doing it? I was like, oh, shit. Yeah, like, why Like... How the hell are you? So like, that's how I started. Then I just like, I would just like, again, I would just keep soaking stuff in. They taught me more things and they gave me an account, like a a spoof account to run some bullshit. yeah That hit 10K in like a month. They like, nah, did this they get them an account. I started running the NBA account, they their football account. Then I was on their main account. and Then I went, and then think like a couple months later, they had me do their, the WBB account, the WNBA one. So yeah man, it it was fun. Like, in that that like,
00:44:18
Speaker
That right there just kind of like, you got what I'm saying, blew me up. Because all I knew how to do was be in front of the camera. right I ain't know shit behind the camera. denance that I went back to school. like I went to BMCC Community College. Oh, shout out.
00:44:29
Speaker
Yeah, you know, I wasn't going to pay to go to no. Nah, nah. Shout out CUNY, Shout out CUNY. I was like, my resume don't look that good. Let me get something. You got what I'm saying? So while I was doing the freelance, like yeah you know, so I did my thing with that. and here now, man. Nah, yeah. I mean, that's that's learning on the job, especially like you got to have that.
00:44:50
Speaker
You got to have that ambition for it Yeah. I thought I had like a man. I thought I ran into a dead end. I'm not going lie. yeah Cause remember, I only knew basketball. You just asked me in 10th grade. What you want to do? I'm going to NBA 11th grade. I'm going to NBA. I had Division one school. know what I'm saying? had people come. Like, bro.
00:45:05
Speaker
Were you also in AAU? Yeah. You know what was about? Let me tell you a quick AAU story, of you don't mind. oh I'm at Hoop Group. I got invited to a Hoop Group camp. i I don't know what a Hoop Group camp Hoop Group camp is, for those who don't watch, it's like ah they invite the top 150 players and whatever. Were you ranked?
00:45:22
Speaker
It's not that hard. I have a star. Hey, I have a star better than no star. You can type my name up and it popped up though. I led the city in free throws in my 10th grade year. Look it up. The whole state of New York, free throw percentage, 92%. Holla at your boy. Hard ass fouls.
00:45:47
Speaker
say But yeah, man. So yeah, you at Hoop Group. Yeah, i lost my shirt though, my bad. I was at Hoop Group. so when They invite like whatever, the top players or whatever. So bro, <unk> one of the most heartbreaking experiences ever.
00:46:03
Speaker
Cause coaches, they're live. The college coaches are there. They'll watch you play. They're like, oh I'm here for you. yeah yeah You got what I'm saying? So I'm getting whipped. My boy told me, my boy Muhammad told me, he's like, yo, Stony Brook is here for you. They said, they said yo where's Trey at? He right there. like I was like, man, it's lit.
00:46:19
Speaker
Bro, niggas wasn't passing me the ball the first court. Cause who group is, they put the top players, remember there's a bunch of random top players on one team. um'm I'm not gonna lie, back then I wasn't the most aggressive person. i was gonna be like, yo, bull, I wasn't doing that. I was gonna be like, oh shit, are you shot that?
00:46:32
Speaker
Oh, you shot it again? Oh, yeah, yeah, keep shooting, keep shooting. You want to sit me down? Cool. I'm not gonna argue with you. But people do want to see that. That's why I'm in that. And you know, now, to get to that point, I get in the second quarter, I'm missing everything. Yeah.
00:46:49
Speaker
Bro, halftime come, bro. i see I see him do this. He's sad. Got this clip hook and sad. and left. I said, no.
00:47:00
Speaker
make Maybe he went to get something to drink.
00:47:05
Speaker
Bro, when I saw that, bro, i was like, I'm trash. I'm trash. ain't gonna lie, bro, that hurt, that broke me. yeah i like wrote i was I was in 12th grade, but still, i was still good, but I was like, yo, bro, I got these schools and That?
00:47:19
Speaker
You did that? Like, I don't That's a tough pill to swaddle, too. What? Like, I don't know. Pause. Hey, yo, pause. I also said it wrong, too. I said swaddle. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:47:33
Speaker
But I think it's just like, yeah, that's a especially at like a young age, some people do not understand the the make or break moments. right Like KD people that made it to the how many make or break moments that they they never They never just like...
00:47:49
Speaker
oh yeah, i got it. like It's just easy money all the way through. Nah, man. you know like There's moments where you you can have it that
Content Creation Challenges and Community Expectations
00:47:56
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day. You can't have it the next day. Like you know no there like i say it's pop like I said, it's public news. If you look up like my stats, freshman year, ah played terrible. averaged like eight points a game. cause i wasn't like I didn't go to that school for basketball. I went to that school because no one graduates high school. but No one was thinking about that.
00:48:13
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So I was just like, I'm just going to school. yeah Like I'm not thinking, I'm like, you i'm going to school because you're supposed to go to high school. You know what I'm saying? I'm like, that's just the steps in life. So I'm like, i'm like damn, I kind of like this basketball thing. Cause I was doing boxing. I was playing football. i wasn yeah I wasn't taking nothing seriously. I was just playing stuff.
00:48:28
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but Which I feel like kids don't do that now. You know, like I think we are losing the recipes for I ain't gonna lie to you, but when you can make a hundred mil just playing a game. You don't think we would've done that shit? You say you worked that game stuff.
00:48:41
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I mean, yeah. Bro, before I got here, I playing MLB. before yeah I into it. That's my shit. I love MLB The Show. Like, that's my shit. Look, but yeah, but that, see, but that, so, because I definitely wanted to touch on content creation. So it's like, the, I feel like a lot of people are starting to like, fall back and be like, yeah, I'm just be a content creator, you know?
00:49:01
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And so, and for rud awakening i know, yeah, but, but I do think that like, Social media does create this like Oh it's an easy route type of thing You know Like oh yo I can just keep posting I get to 10k real quick In like two months or something like that Yeah but like This thing about like social And this is what I learned Like working in social all these years Like obviously you learn like behind the scenes stuff And all that like They shadow ban anything Anything you try to promote Anything you tag Anything you hashtag Any song you put on a story Anything that's not an organic post Yeah They will shadow ban it Yeah Like for example if
00:49:35
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if we, whatever, we post this, I share it on my story. Like, you know how people would be like, oh, share on story. Like, it will get 200 views. yeah Two, 300 views. If I post a selfie of myself, and i that's an organic post now. If I post a selfie of myself, I'm getting 1500 views on my, why? yeah Like, that's my thing. much discrep But if I just add, like, if I add a song over my selfie, now cut that in half. Now only get 600. It's like, damn, I can't promote shit. This ain't even my song.
00:50:05
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I don't even care about the song. I just wanted, shit went good with my selfie. and and But I also think it's just like some people, I don't know. So it's like, so I got into like a argument and about this because I'd say i like, you know, I'm not really a content creator. I just make podcasts. I want to be a podcaster. Like I want to, home like that this is my expertise.
00:50:26
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I think content creation is just, you're doing a lot of things at once. Right? And so, Then we have like this whole thing about like the art and like, are you making art or are you just making content? And then it's like the, the understanding of it. I think we've, especially like online or people's ah ideas of what content creation is, is like they're lumping it all into one thing, like how we do ah entrepreneurship, but like,
00:50:51
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that I don't think that's fair to people that are just like, yo, know I want to be known for like this one thing. No, absolutely, yeah. And and that was my mistake. yeah like i was like When I was making Consecration, I was like, yo, I just love being in front of the camera. I want to be an actor. I want to be Will Smith. I want to be Denzel. You know what I'm saying? I'm looking at it like that. like I want to be those guys, but...
00:51:08
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Like with basketball, you just gotta get realistic with yourself. Like yeah I never played until I was 25. Like I'm still trying to make it to league. When I was like 20, I was like, this shit is over with. Like don't be dumb, bro. You don't want to on that Vice show? You ever seen that Vice show? You seen that Vice show? You know what I'm talking about? Yo, you got to watch. There's this Vice show where it's like hoopers that go to like Mexico and they play in like, they play in like, it's like a cartel ran league.
00:51:33
Speaker
And that's how they get no that is crazy no you it. Yo, it's crazy. I gotta send it to you. Nah, but like it's ah the way that like content creation is now. And I mean like you,
00:51:52
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you do it professionally you know so like Like, what are the biggest hurdles you've seen but outside of shadow banning? And like, ah like do you feel- Support. Yeah. Just support. Like, and it's weird because like shadow ban plays a part in that. So you can't get too mad at your friends. Yeah. It's just like support. Like you really want that support. And I know it sounds great because you don't want to ask for it.
00:52:14
Speaker
Like, it's so weird. Like, yeah and so and you and you see everyone do it. Like, hey, like people will post stuff in their close friends. Like, yo, show this post in love or you got what I'm saying? Like, why do we have to do that? Yeah.
00:52:26
Speaker
I like that we do it, don't get me be wrong. i have no problem. Cause shit, I want i want ah was my content to get love, but it's like, i don't want to have to do that. I got to make posts on posts on posts just so you to go back to the three posts. yeah It's like, damn. It is tough. I had this conversation with my boy the other day too, where it's just like, what?
00:52:45
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Let me word this correctly. I think there's like expectations, right? Like I think that people expect people to post shit for them um just off the strength of like.
00:52:55
Speaker
That's me. Yeah. that move I don't. I am not your average content creator. You know like content creation is like I got to be consistent. Like well for example, you you'll be like, oh, we didn't shoot a pod this week. We got to get that shit together. We got to shoot a pod. and yeah That's not me. Yeah. Like in a lot of businesses, a lot of like people work with hated that.
00:53:14
Speaker
And I can't. Like even before all the time I was like that. I never made a hundred videos a week. yeah I made one video and I put all my effort. into the one like yeah that For those two weeks, all my effort went into that one video. yeah I may write some stuff for a different video, but like the one that's done and I'm ready to shoot, all my effort went into that. I was just talking to like my boy, i like my boy.
00:53:36
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i want I always shoot with him. It's the only videographer I have. I always shoot with him. um I've been talking with him. i said I said earlier, I said, yo, I want shoot this one video. And I had it written down for two years already. Yeah. I really want to shoot it. But it's like.
00:53:49
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is now we Now we're in the flood. Just but just keep flooding. Yeah. But what I was saying, right, is the we when we we prey on community of being like, yo,
00:54:00
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You know, this is the community. I expect you to post my shit because we all we all rock with each other. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think that's like bullshit. Yeah, yeah. I don't... I don't i never...
00:54:15
Speaker
I've never experienced the I expect you to post it. It's crazy out here. There's like groups of like, people will add people to groups and be like, yo, you know, um but you know ah how do I wear this without without without using the actual- I just got this text the other day. No, no, no, I didn't get it. I don't play that shit. yeah Because I don't ask, i don't ask whenever i post a clip, I don't go, yo, can you show No, no, no, facts, facts, facts.
00:54:44
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For me, I'd rather like earn it because the thing is we, when you get to a certain point, all the people that are, are going to see it are the people that are going to see it. You can't. No facts. I'll give you a social media hack though. Yeah. oh And I did this when I first started shooting, like when first started shooting.
00:55:01
Speaker
No, save it for after the episode. I don't want nobody else here. Oh, bet. I got you. I got you. No, I'll just play it. No, no, no. But what i ah but I definitely want to say is that like there are words that a lot of a lot of people use that content create, like amplify. and yeah like They use like these buzzwords where I also feel
Social Media Strategies and Reflections
00:55:18
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like they use it wrong. Push. Yeah, push. Where it's like, if we're all within one specific niche, right yeah for example, basketball. And so like,
00:55:28
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You push your stuff out. You have already garnered enough of the audience of that you're going to reach this far. yes The correct way to say Amplify is when you go, hey, I need somebody from a different space to share my shit. Thank you. yeah and that's what and that's And that's what it is. That's what I mean by like the support of things where it's just like, it's cool to have your friends supported.
00:55:49
Speaker
But if... I don't know, someone who, a production company posts your shit. that one You get what I'm saying? that run seven other podcasts. Yeah, that's that's the person I want. Yeah, exactly. i want but But that goes back to the platforms that we use, right? It doesn't... there's It's so hard to get out of the bubble that they put you in. And it's like, you know... You're shadow man right now. i hope you know that. no They're not going to show your shit to people...
00:56:21
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in China that loves knitting. yeah That's the thing, but that's the difference between Instagram and TikTok. You post this on TikTok, it it will show those people. Yeah, because it's just going an exchange. Exactly, and that's why it's so weird. When you post this on Instagram, it's going to show that that the people in the seven block radius here.
00:56:36
Speaker
Like, oh bro, what kind of, it's like and Pornhub. You know, when you couldn you click on it, it's like, yo. yeah yeah no I'm seven miles away. I'm seven miles. You know. I don't know. You know.
00:56:47
Speaker
I don't be on there. I got other sites. Me neither. Who watches that? Yeah. Filth. This is a Christian podcast. Who that stuff? ah is another Not the but the porn hub for you that crazy
00:57:12
Speaker
I got carried away in my bag. I thought I was comfortable. Shit. But nah, yeah, that like you, you being an actual content creator, like you've actually. Thank you, appreciate that. Yeah, come on. And ah versus like somebody that's just kind of like wants to be a photographer, or videographer, right? And I really hate that we've come into this world where the soon as you make something, you're now making content, right? Where it's just like, what happened to it being like, yo, I'm making a message. I got a message. I'm putting some art together. I'm literally just making this video because I love this video. Yeah.
00:57:49
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Like that's the two year thing I was telling you about, like just the idea of it. And like what I have planned is just like, nah, this is something that really like and I want to do it. Like, yeah I don't even want to get paid for I just want to do it. Like, and that's where I'm at with it. Like,
00:58:03
Speaker
I don't know. And that's and I felt out of love with that when I was doing freelance because now it's like, yo, I just need to get the money because I need to get this. And I was doing freelance for five years, bro. like i mean Since the pandemic to like a year, like to like a couple months ago.
00:58:16
Speaker
like So I was doing freelance for a minute. So I'm like, let me just... Boom. So it wasn't until I stopped myself. Yeah. Like the honest thing you saw me at, I told like, since then I told myself, i was like, you know I'm done.
00:58:27
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I'm not going to
Reflective Humor and Promotions
00:58:28
Speaker
know. Yeah. noticed that you, yeah I added you and you were like, yeah, I'm not posting nothing for nothing. Yeah. You can go on my Instagram. I got three posts in the past year, but I'm always on. I like everything. I see everything. i like Like when you post a podcast or some shit and I like it, I like it. Yeah. For sure. just wanted to throw that out there for the people who watching. Yeah. All right.
00:58:45
Speaker
But we're towards the end of the podcast and it deals with a little, like my last question deals with a little visualization. um i want you to think back to when you were about to get those and ones okay before the catch up. And like now you can now you're you.
00:58:57
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Catch up. who' Now you're you behind your younger self. but What would you sell tell your younger self before they open that box? Don't wear them.
00:59:08
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Don't wear them that day. Don't wear them that day, but it was my ah it was my first day of school. First day in a new school. Like I had just transferred there, so I'm the shortest.
00:59:21
Speaker
I used to get picked on like, yo, that's a dirty kid. He's always wearing them ugly shoes. So go to new school. that's a new start. Hold his ketchup, nigga. Damn. Turn me into a glizzy. Yeah, that's it, though. well um what Nah, now you good.
00:59:42
Speaker
Tell everybody where to find you, man. Oh yeah, you can find me on IG. don't really be on Twitter. I don't really understand it. And you know, every two scrolls, you might see something. You know what I'm like? Yeah, for real.
00:59:52
Speaker
But yeah, you can find me on IG and TikTok. Same name. Treyuno, T-R-E-Y, U-N-O. Big Uno. Y'all know what's up. You got anything you want to put you working on? ah No, just support. You know, support my guys, Rory and Mal.
01:00:06
Speaker
You know, I'm um with the volume now. You already know what's up. So I'll be doing all the social media behind the scenes now. ah Not saying I'm not doing any more consecration. I love you guys. I would still do those things, but gotta pay bills.
01:00:18
Speaker
Yes, sir. Yes, sir. You know to find me. I am who is awesome. Also, be social medias. And then I'm a kick it to myself ah to give the Patreon shout outs. So, you know what we do. Peace.
01:00:28
Speaker
So I hope you enjoyed that episode with Trey. Man, that was a blast. But of course, we're at the end of the episode, so you know where to find me. I am, who is Hassan on all social media. Follow the podcast at My First Kicks Pod. If you have a story, hit me up. Info at My First Kicks Pod. No, wait. Info at MyFirstKicks.com. My bad.
01:00:48
Speaker
If you're looking to cop merch, we got merch coming soon, actually. a little re-up. about to do some really cool stuff just keep an eye out on the website which is myfirstkicks.com uh if you want to sign up for the patreon patreon.com slash my first kicks two tiers two tiers just two tiers three dollars five dollars three dollars you get a shout out at the end of every episode like i'm about to do right now and also five dollars you get all the premium content that i will be putting out on there gotta put some time into this i will be expanding this as much as possible and
01:01:22
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be taking suggestions, especially for like new types of episodes, what you want to see more of, especially on this podcast, because this is something I'm trying to build with all of y'all. Live shows, trying to incorporate all this stuff with every single one of you that listens to this or watches this and want to be interactive with me, with anybody else that listens to this. But on to Patreon shoutouts.
Closing Remarks and Acknowledgements
01:01:45
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Shoutout Ross Adams. Shoutout Adam Neustetter. Shoutout Jesse. Shoutout Jesse. Shoutout... Fresh Poetic Derek, shout out Derek man, long time, long time friend. And of course, shout out Adam Butler aka MSR, check out that news his new show. They just launched their first episode, I know I mentioned last week.
01:02:05
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You know, last week I mentioned that they're dropping, so they're up and running. Man, last week, last week's episode, just real quick, just gonna just jump off to a little quick tangent before we jump out of here.
01:02:16
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Last week's episode, I woke up at 4.30 in the morning. to finish editing and upload to make sure it was up. And it's doing extremely bad.
01:02:28
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It is doing terrible. 32 views on YouTube. um So if you haven't watched my episode with Ari, Ari is an absolute legend. He dropped the menthol ones. He worked with Espo on the Air Force 2s, but we talked about his time in the 80s growing up and literally the beginning of Vans and the Van Doren store. And it's so compelling that I need y'all to check it out. I need y'all to go back and listen to that episode because I feel like it just flew right under the radar.
01:02:57
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01:03:14
Speaker
And wear your kicks. Peace.