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From SDOTS to G-Unit Reebok's with Deante Kyle & Big Kat
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This week I am joined by Deante Kyle and Big Kat as we talk about their growth. How sneakers played a part in their lives. The importance of building community. We also share stories about growing up and what is was like for both of them. How Big Kat and Deante love for music transcended into sneakers. Creating Grits and Eggs and evolving its evolution. If sneaker stories matter to them and much much more!
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Transcript
Parenting and Personal Choices
00:00:00
Speaker
Give me the shoe. You see what I'm saying? Mom say, you sure you want that? Give me that one. You know what? as As a father, you got to let your kids rock out sometimes. That's what you want? That ugly ass shoe? That's what you want. If it's going to make you happy, it is what it is. But then when you go to school and they clown you and you don't want to wear them. Nobody said that to Nobody said that to Nobody said that? Nobody said anything to me.
00:00:23
Speaker
Nah, y'all don't know Young Jock. That's just out of his mind. Yeah, yeah. He was Lil' Cat. Lil' Cat, that's it. You know what I'm saying? This nigga swole as fucking high school. What you playing? played DN and D-Tack. Oh, yeah. Oh, nah. Oh, nah. Nobody's saying nothing to you. Struggle locks. Struggle locks. Struggle locks.
00:00:46
Speaker
It was a scary sight. It was a scary sight. Oh, man. That's the, he's going to make it to the league. Yeah, yeah. I thought I was going for sure. Yeah, so if he got on S.Dark Carters, let it be. Let it be. Let rock.
Podcast Milestones and Guests
00:01:08
Speaker
everyone? Welcome back to My First Kicks. This episode 251. God, damn. Jesus Christ. This is working. Damn. Yo, mean, this is long. This is crazy. First of all, this is absolutely crazy. I got both Deontay Kyle and Big Cat in the building. Yo, come on, man. This is... I'll even not clap it up for me right now, yo. This is crazy, man. You've had everybody from Full Size Run on here, though, right? Outside Trinidad, James.
00:01:38
Speaker
Soon. Soon. You talk him? Talk to A little bit here and there. I mean, once you was Victory Light, I was like, I got, yo, it's got to happen now. Once I saw you on there, I was like, look, that's bro. I got the joints on today. wore these because I was back here.
00:01:54
Speaker
the This is the the legendary, you went to the store just to cop just to go on Victory Light. Yeah, I went to the store and then Mero tagged my shit. Yeah. That shit, that's hard, bro. You know what saying? Yo, huge honor you guys. Like, you guys have been crushing it. You know, I've been telling everybody be like, if you've never heard of Grits and Eggs, you've got to check it out because y'all are the rising. Y'all, y'all literally the rocket ship right now. Thank you. the The only podcast that, that like people should really be paying attention outside of mine. Yeah. yeah But the it's just wild to see y'all progression.
Social Media Success and New Ventures
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i mean,
00:02:31
Speaker
One of my one of like seeing your your old your older videos and stuff like that over TikTok and stuff like my biggest question for you before we jump into that, like it was like at what moment did you realize, yo, I got a ah voice people should really pay attention to.
00:02:46
Speaker
um really just thought, you know, saw TikTok as a platform where they just kind let everyday people rock. It didn't come with glam. You didn't have to have the best clothes. Shit, motherfuckers was laying in bed making content. You know what mean? And I was in the truck a lot and I was consuming a lot of content, but I didn't really see anything that I agree with, like, from my perspective. Yeah.
00:03:10
Speaker
And I was like, you know, I'm going to throw my hat in there. And the proof of concept was like, you gain 100,000 followers on an app. That's significant, you know? So I was like, all right, let's pivot this into a podcast so I can really pop my shit. Yeah, yeah. And um yeah, man, it was on from there. it was it wasn't ah It was a thing where it was like, it became fun, you know? And it's like, you kind of build a community. It's growing. yeah You know, you see you start seeing the same people all the time, you know, comments. So it kind of... get a camaraderie with people on the app.
00:03:38
Speaker
And then, um yeah, I think the evolution of it was i wanted to talk about things at at length. Yeah. And it's hard to do that on TikTok. Oh, for sure, man. So I was like, all right, well, YouTube, I'm trying to live over there. i always had one.
00:03:52
Speaker
to have some type of presence on YouTube, I just think YouTube is like TV to me. You know mean? It is. It is now. It is basically. Anybody just watching just straight up YouTube shows, like we were watching our podcast on there, like people just tapping in on there and like nobody's really- Ever since I've discovered YouTube, I
Top Battle Rap Artists Discussion
00:04:08
Speaker
haven't stopped. Yeah. The first shit I used to do on YouTube is like, all I would type in is battle rap. Yo. And a rabbit hole of battle rap. Top five right now. Top five. Battle rap. I don't watch a lot of it now. i about Oh, period? Period. All right.
00:04:27
Speaker
At five, I'll go... I'll put Tay Rock at five. Okay. Fire. I'll put... I'm
00:04:38
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going to put Lux at... Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. I'll put Lux at two, Mook at one. Okay. okay i put bra at four I'll put put...
00:04:48
Speaker
I like twerk, though. I put twerk in. Twerk's cool. Yeah. Damn, man. No DNA. And previous guest's DNA on that top five. Sorry, DNA. It's tough. It's tough. Get him the fuck out of here. Yo, when he was going off, it was just crazy. But yeah, I mean, YouTube is definitely just like this.
00:05:05
Speaker
I mean, now it's it's crazy now, the way it's working. yeah And the way that what's really pissing me off is when you get on TikTok, it's like, You can become a content creator. Make a video. Hey, man. It is simple, but
Building a Genuine Podcast Community
00:05:20
Speaker
it ain't. It ain't. the The formula to how to do it is simple, but it's a lot of factors that play into it, man. people Some people just like, man, you might not have a likable face. Yeah. And then they just swipe away. Yeah, they like, I'm cool. yeah I don't want to watch this guy. yeah, yeah. yeah And then other things, it's ah it's a lot of factors. Like, having people gravitate to you is definitely, like, not something you can...
00:05:44
Speaker
necessarily count on, but when it happened, it's like, whoa. You know mean? So you just take advantage, man. Yeah, man. All right, so yeah y'all both, you might as well answer. You gonna answer too. What's up, what's up? All right, cool. y'all both here to answer the question I ask everybody each week, and that question is, what's your first kicks with that first pair sneaks you absolutely needed to have?
00:06:01
Speaker
Bruh, Taxi 12s. Oh, man. We were just recently talking about Taxi 12s. And I bawled in them, too. Yeah? Yeah. um I begged my mother for it. I was like, hey, I was playing rec league. And I just begged. like I just remember them. And I was like, I begged for them shits.
00:06:17
Speaker
and then But i'm ah I'm a kid. So I'm like, Michael Jordan, where these? I'm at rec league. I'm like, Michael Jordan, and I was garbage. and Buns, nigga. Super bad. yeah But I was fly. And then I was like, I started rocking them with Fitz. I was like...
00:06:34
Speaker
Oh, okay. All right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, I get it. get it. You didn't kill see what's going on. Nah, I'm eight, bro. All right. I don't know how hard you balling. Not hard at all. I was really a wait by the three-point line, throw me the ball. I'm catch and shoot. You know what saying? I was the original Klay Thompson. You know I'm saying? There you go. Hey, look, then you definitely just chilling on me. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm over here cooling. I'm not trying do too much. I'm really just trying to look good. You know what I mean? My first, I'm not good with numbers, so forgive me. The joint with the bubble on the side.
00:07:06
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Bubble on the side. join ah The 13s, right? ah yeah yeah Yeah. Talk about the He Got Games. Yeah, I beg for those. yeah I need those. She made it happen.
00:07:19
Speaker
Shout out to my mom. shot out Shout out to my mom. Your mom gonna cop your first pair like Yeah Your first pair But I think the first shoes were i went and like I kinda hustled up some bread For them drinks Um It was some It was some like Like the original fives, like the white and red fives. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Chicago fives. I needed them, bro. No, fire red fives. five It was fire i red fives,
00:07:46
Speaker
I needed them shits, bro. Love those. I mean, I'm a fours guy. So, like, red fours, fire red fours. Listen to the thing about fours, bro. You pinky? Love a four. That pinky toe? That pinky toe will you. Yeah, you got to get somewhere to sit down. Yeah. We was walking all up and down to York. i got our black cats yesterday. Nigga.
00:08:05
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Pinky Toe with fire. Oh my God. I don't how you did it. You didn't like... Bro, you just disassociated. Yeah, it's like, I'm here. I'm to take my shoes off? Dirty ass New York streets. Dirty ass New York streets. No shoes. No shoes. I ain't that eclectic. You want to cut it to a storm and be like, nah, let me get something comfy real quick. No, not even. just keep it pushing, bro. Fuck it. If I lose it too, I lose it. It's a pinky toe. Yeah, now fuck that. Just ask the sneaker niggas a question. Why y'all keep making all these colorways? Y'all make adjustments to the fucking dimensions. You know what mean? Widen that toe box a little bit. Look, I mean, it's crazy because was just recently talking to somebody who owns like a regular sneaker store where they like, you can pick like the whiffs and they were like, yeah, you can get like a E. And I'm like, the fuck? When you buy Jordans, it's only just a regular. Like it is. That's what it is. Tinker not letting niggas play with his shit. No, no, no. Let me get a Jordan 4 wide. tell you to go to hell. You
Customer Service Stories and Experiences
00:09:09
Speaker
know what I'm saying? would imagine. I can see that. The insole is like, I mean, you're supposed to like, I mean, ballplayers don't play in just the regular shoe. They get their shit fully customized. They have to. There's no way he was playing in them for us. We buy. Nah. Remember in Last Dance, he wore the ones and his whole foot was just bleeding inside it. You can't ball in the Jordan 1. The Jordan 1 is a rough shoe. It is. It's just straight flat. There's no give. There's nothing.
00:09:42
Speaker
This the thing though, bruh, think about this bruh. Nigga, Dr. J was putting on 30, 10, and 10 on niggas in Converse. Yo. No ankles in the straight. Converse is comfortable though. That's actually my favorite shoe. I just recently wore a pair and I was like, Converse is your favorite shoe? The Dr. J, the one, no, the one Dr. the, not Chuck Taylors. You talking about the weapon?
00:10:04
Speaker
Before the weapon. Not the big joint with the big converse on the side. Yes. That's actually my favorite shoe. Favorite Favorite shoe? Yes. It's my favorite shoe. I've never heard of Megan said ever in my life. It's my favorite shoe. First time for everything. It's my favorite shoe. time on this podcast. Yeah, yeah. Bigfoot, though. Bigfoot, though. Bigfoot. Size 13? Yeah, same. Same. I'm a size 13. Yeah. Yeah. What you got on? These are the K-Swiss.
00:10:27
Speaker
K-Swiss Rock, no, Racket Club. Yeah, K-Swiss Racket Club by Anwar, Anwar Carrots. He's the homie. You know, had him on the podcast. Oh, yeah, that's dope. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Anwar's cool, man. Anwar's a man, man. Like, the way, and it's funny, because speaking of him, the way he built brings community around him is something that, like, I strive for. And, like, I've seen it around you, too. So, like,
00:10:49
Speaker
your per like how do How do you go about it? like How do you accept it? Because I think it's like really hard to build it in the first place. it becomes a natural It's a natural thing. um But it's natural if you're intentional about it. like If you recognize... What I tell people at the shows all the time is like...
00:11:08
Speaker
yeah everybody in this room you already got something in common with you might as well talk to them yeah and you know we've and we've started our Patreon which started a discord and people have like made friendships out of it it's a beautiful thing yeah um and i you know I stay tapped in with them um The more people that come, it's kind of hard to keep up, but they do a really good job of moderating themselves and like staying in tune with each other.
00:11:32
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um But I think it's ah about being purposeful. um A lot of times when when people think about community, they think about it from capitalistic point of view, which is how do I exploit these people for money? yeah And I think about it more so like how do I bring value to them? Because they've brought tremendous amount of value to my life. You know what I mean? That's the struggle of that I've been trying to like, because I've moved forward like that, where it's just like, i don't want people to see this as like, I'm trying to prey on you.
00:12:01
Speaker
Right. You know, this is this podcast is a service. Like, what I'm trying to do is have these conversations and have people listen in and take something from this, hopefully, you know, move forward and, you know, get some get some knowledge, or as you say, do the knowledge. the knowledge. Do the knowledge. And so... It is interesting to see when you're moving in such a different way than what you're seeing happen around you. It's like, I always feel i want to comment on and be like, yo, this is, this is grifting right here. Like what's going on? Yeah. But unfortunately, you know, people are going to go for it because a lot of times the grip is giving people hope.
00:12:37
Speaker
Yeah. what mean? So, um, I don't really got nothing to sell nobody. You know mean? I think the thing is, we're here to have a conversation. If you want to support, it you can support it on Patreon. If you want to support, you can buy some merch, buy tickets to the show. you know These are products, but these are also like an extension of what what would you already love. know Trying to finesse niggas ain't it, because you're going to get finessed by the tax man eventually. yeah that's That's what it is right there, too. um and like Growing up, did you have a sense of community around you?
00:13:09
Speaker
um Yeah, man. You know, the before I moved to Georgia, I lived in like a... um big ass neighborhood like Parkwood and it's like so many kids in that neighborhood bro we was outside all day every day yeah all our parents kind of knew each other in the sense of like you ain't cutting up in front of people like that you know what I mean like everybody mama might hold you accountable um so it was one of those situations and then like family I I wouldn't say huge family but like a decent sized very tight-knit family yeah so um
00:13:42
Speaker
Yeah, man, it's always just been everybody looking out for everybody else. You know what I mean? If somebody ain't got it, somebody got it. For sure. You too? Me? Nah, I roam the streets by myself. I ride do-go state to state. Nah, I grew up in ah on a dead end street. Everybody knew everybody. so it was kind of like...
00:14:02
Speaker
In a cul-de-sac? Like, well, kind of like cul-de-sac. Kind of like a cul-de-sac. the road just ends. The road just ends. a dead end. So. The road just ends. The road just ends. The road just ends. Ain't no circle. Yeah. You got to back them up. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. But nah, like everybody knew everybody the street. So it was kind of like you said, man, it's close knit. And then if somebody mom's outside, you go straight up. Oh shit. Miss Crystal outside, I'm straightening up real quick. Or you'll have to help they mom with the groceries. You what I'm saying? They pull up, helping with the groceries, man. Of course, man. Yeah, so it's tight knit for real. For sure, for sure.
00:14:38
Speaker
So, like, I definitely want to hear, because I know we all know sneakers are social currency, right? So, like, how was y'all status for social currency growing up, you know?
00:14:50
Speaker
you always on it? I
Sneakers as Social Currency
00:14:52
Speaker
love sneakers. ah We didn't have a bread like that. i know my family from up here were always, like, my dad's out of their family. They from Brooklyn.
00:15:02
Speaker
and So they were always like, like beginner school year, hook hook us up. i Okay. And then it's like, you know, growing up like early 2000s, New York was like the epicenter of fashion. Yeah. You want to dress like a New Yorker, you know mean? You want to get fly, you got to kind of look to them, especially being a small city in North Carolina.
00:15:20
Speaker
It's like you kind of, that's your that's your like whole viewpoint of like what fashion is, what hip hop is and shit like that. So, um yeah, bro, they used to lace me, but then that that around Christmas time, it's like, you on your own. I'm waiting on my dad. yeah We did what we had to do. You what I'm saying? Pops might not come through. Pops might push up the the two for 89 Reebok classics. Hey.
00:15:43
Speaker
ah You got to make it do what it do, bro. And I done bought some garbage shoes. I done bought some Creative Rex before. Oh, no. I never did that. But they had it they had a choke holder. Look, bro. They had a choke holder. I never did that. It was flying, bro. High school Yeah? You gonna fly?
00:15:58
Speaker
they was I thought they was fly, bro. Like, I don't know who I seen in them. Kanye, probably. Nah, Lupe. Lupe? Why you back Jason Derulo? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Whoever, it was somebody in the street that I respected that I seen. Oh, okay. And I was like, all right, bet. Them shit is kind of fly. Yeah.
00:16:20
Speaker
Shit started leaning immediately. They were definitely held together with like just made plastic and some leather and that was it. That was fake Yeezys. Really what it They was on fire. They had a run, bro. I always think about that with certain companies like, damn, you had a run, but that shit never happen again. Magic Creative Rex right now, bro.
00:16:41
Speaker
Nah. Your feet go. I I copped some G units too. Oh, okay. great with the with the With the tank top?
00:16:54
Speaker
Never did the brassiere. Why do niggas always ask me if I had that tank top? Because the tank top- Bruh, that is not a fit. That's a bra. Yeah, yeah, bruh. 50 just wanted to show niggas the pecs. You cop the top?
00:17:07
Speaker
Oh, yeah. He copped- You you. yeah Yeah. I hope you've been enjoying this week's episode with Deontay Kyle Big Ice Cup Cat. And course, please do not forget to hit subscribe the YouTube.
00:17:25
Speaker
when they both came out s doc carter is a nasty and stock carter engineer i hope you've been enjoying this week's episode with deyonte kyle and big icec cup cat and of course please do not forget to hit subscribe on the youtube like on the video and of course leave a comment if you hear or heard something would love to have an interaction in the comments down below and if you're listening to this on apple or spotify leave a five star review and if you leave an actual written review i will read it at the end of an episode and of course if you want to go the extra extra mile i got a patreon patreon.com slash my first kicks
00:18:08
Speaker
Goni got a $5 tier at the moment and I'm adding a special Patreon episode after this drops. So let's go back to the episode. had it. I had have it. Yeah, bro. It's JZ. Give me the shoe. You see what I'm saying? Mom say, you sure you want that? Give me that. You know what? As a father, you got let your kids rock out sometimes. That's what you want, that ugly ass shit? All right. That's what you want. All right. If it's to make you happy, it is what it is, bro. But then when you go to school and they clown you and you don't want to wear them. Nobody said that to me. Nobody said that? Nobody said that to me.
00:18:48
Speaker
Nah, y'all don't know Young Jock. This one's just of his mind. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, love he was Lil Cat. He was fucking psycho, man. You know what I'm saying? Bro, this nigga swole as fucking high school. What you playing? played DN and D-Tackle. Oh, yeah. Oh, nah. Oh, nah. Nobody's saying nothing. Struggle locks. you yeah struggle lot Struggle locks.
00:19:11
Speaker
It was a a scary sight, man. It was a scary sight. man. Locks, this one. This one.
00:19:19
Speaker
that's the That's the, he's going to make it to the league. Yeah, yeah. I thought I was going for sure. Yeah, so if he got on S.Dot Carter's, let it be. Let it We'll send that to We friends. We friends. Because as soon as want it, I'm trying to be. might cop some in solidarity. Yeah, yeah.
00:19:35
Speaker
We rollin' with you. Whatever he say, go, go. Cause he goin' to the league. G-Units was probably by far the nastiest purchase ever spent on the show. I was just like, why did I do that? I don't know why I never i never crossed the line. I couldn't do it. I just had ups.
00:19:51
Speaker
I have ah had downtowns, well, level well uptowns. and then ah And then I did mids for a hot minute. A mid was a nice shoe in and a certain era. they're trying to I don't know if you've seen,
Handling Unsolicited Pitches
00:20:02
Speaker
but they're trying to they're trying to rewrite history. i'm not really i'm not i'm not I'm not big on the mids no more because it's like the thing is, like you already know that strap will get loose. Oh, yeah. You good for like...
00:20:15
Speaker
Maybe a week. you got six weeks, man. Six weeks. You're not rocking a merry thing? Yeah. Once you start tying the shoe ring into the... into those play yeah yeah i used to Once it started, you know, going...
00:20:28
Speaker
Outward, I just, I'm strapped. I'm locked in for the rest of it. You got to lock it in. I'm locked in. That's how you rockin'. You know back then jeans was heavy, so they should. Oh, yeah. Levi, we ain't know the strap. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Nah, this was when I was rockin' like Pele's. Bro. Oh, shit. Throwin' some jabolls on top of a mid-top, man. That's gonna kill that strap every time. That strap was gettin' cooked. Yeah, it was done. Yeah, I imagine too in New York, especially like how y'all kind of was like, we dress the best, we do everything the best.
00:21:04
Speaker
You don't want to get caught dead in a bad shoe. You know what mean? Y'all keep it very simple. Jordans and Nikes, that's it. Because you know what saying? You try to experiment, go outside the box, there's a lot of niggas outside.
00:21:15
Speaker
Yeah. So that's how niggas don't get blocked. You do, yeah. You got to roll to school. You get fried all the way. It's too many people. You got to fight them. All the way to school and back? It's crazy. I don't want these got them shoes. don't know. seen a nigga New tell nigga, mine cleared up.
00:21:30
Speaker
Like, he's always got a fake mine cleared up. Grab a nigga jacket and went, holy shit. Ripped his whole shoulder. Ripped the whole muscle off the shoulder. And then they were just laughing at him. I was like, what the fuck? Yeah, it is wild out here for that. Like, I remember a high school.
00:21:44
Speaker
Canal Street yeah now yeah pretty special. Somebody pulled up with, like, a fake Ferragama belt. Oh, see. And I think somebody ripped it off of him and just beat him with it. I went to one of the worst high schools in New York City. What high school you went to? Washington, Irving. It was nicknamed Hell High.
00:22:05
Speaker
Okay. Yeah. They threw a chair out the window, hit somebody. That's crazy. Walking down the street in a random chair just hit you. Yeah. That's cartoon shit. It is wild, bro. Nah, I think for the most part, too, I always kind of was trying to get creative with my shit. And I could roast. So it's like, come on with it. Let's go. Yeah, because I'm with that shit. But I think at some point, you just kind of like, right, this ain't safe, Like, you know what I'm saying? I can see the vision, but it ain't worth trying to execute You know what mean? It ain't worth What's the craziest fit you tried outside the G units?
00:22:42
Speaker
The craziest fit? The bacteria shirt, bro. Bacteria shirt? I had a shirt, bro. I had a little H&M phase. Yeah. And it was a shirt that had all these different, like, colors on it. got Osmosis Jones on it? Bro, that's what a nigga said to me, bro. Oh shit. The nigga said, nigga was like, yo, this nigga sure got bacteria on it. I said, fuck.
00:23:03
Speaker
i' I threw that shit away. I'm cooked. Yeah. this nothing I was like, for one, that's funny. For two, it's accurate as fuck. Yeah. And i ain't never see. And I wish I would have had that vision when I looked at that shit and was like, I'm going to cop that.
00:23:15
Speaker
Cook me. Yo, H&M was... Yeah, fast fashion. fast fast But then now it elevated and now we got nothing but fast fashion. It is crazy right now with fast fashion. Like Zara, I remember when there was... Because I had a Zara phase. I didn't do H&M. I was too fat for H&M. And then I lost weight. But by that time, H&M phased out. So then I went to Zara.
00:23:37
Speaker
And that was like, you wear you wear something for like two two days, you getting a rip, isn you ripping it. It's over, bro. It's not great material. They just tossing that together. yeah You know what mean?
00:23:48
Speaker
They just stitched that one time. They double stitching it up there. We good. No double stitch on your shirt? Get it out of here. Shit, really fast. I wonder how much material is being wasted on just...
Fast Fashion and Its Pitfalls
00:24:02
Speaker
the It's a lot of shit that you can only, but that's the thing about clothing. It's like, it shouldn't be a one-time wear, but most of it is. It is, yeah. I agree. I think, especially because it's like, now with like deodorants stuff, like, i don't know if you get like deodorant stains on some shirts because of deodorant. You you're rocking some heavy-duty deodorant now.
00:24:21
Speaker
I mean i mean how mean, we live in Georgia. You got to rock heavy duty. Yeah, but I'm saying when you say heavy duty, like what you mean? Like degree summer? 72 hour joints? Why you go 72? You go secret, man. You just get your secret. Yeah, get secret, yeah. Nice secret, you know what I mean? What, like the powder? Nah, just the secret. Like I'm talking about like, ah why are you talking about the gel?
00:24:41
Speaker
Powder or gel? Never go gel. No, never go gel. I'm going to tell you what, that shit going intensify the musk. Yeah, every time. Native, stay away from native deodorant. yo, and Toms. And Toms, bro. Toms out of pocket. Bro, just stick to the aluminum, bro. yeah yeah Get you some aluminum. yellow Keep that aluminum. It's locking it in. You're going to be all right with the aluminum. Good, bro. Don't worry about it. I have like shirts. I got like Supreme shirts, and they just.
00:25:07
Speaker
And I'm like, damn. bad, too. So what you say, it went yellow stain? Yeah, yeah. How long you had it on, though? yeah
00:25:19
Speaker
Nigga rocking the fuck out of here. As soon as I started fitting preem, bro, I was like, all right, three shirts. I got three shirts. My boy lost weight to get fly. That's what we doing here. If anything, I'm going to have these fitting gear. Exactly. Listen, I remember, yo, so I don't know if y'all know, but Supreme used to have the worst customer service.
00:25:41
Speaker
I've never worn Supreme. Nah, it's good now. Nah, they chill now. I would never wear Supreme. You see the hat? You the hat. Yeah, I'm not rocking with it. But like, so in college, I was big. I was way bigger. So like, I rolled up in there one time and dude comes up to me. He's like, don't got nothing in size.
00:26:01
Speaker
Oh, And I was like, I just wanted a hat. And he was like, all right. would have got a buck fit. Yeah, right then on the side. Yeah, bitch ass nigga. Now that is your size.
00:26:14
Speaker
Nah, yeah. They were known for that. There was one story that was passed on the on the forums where it was like this white kid walked in to Supreme one day with his mom.
00:26:25
Speaker
And the the dude went up to her and was like, was like, what what are you doing here? And she was like, I'm just here if my son wants And she's like, yo, get the fuck up out the store. And I was like, like you read it and I'm like, what the fuck? And they like then they like laughed her out the store. The son tried to cop something. they Couldn't cop something because they kicked the mom out the store. It was like a weird, it was I was like, this is customer service? I'm gonna tell you something.
00:26:51
Speaker
Nigga talk to my mom like that. yeah we begin to shaking in store yeah We getting We ain't getting shit shaking. I'm leaving. I'm coming back. yeah Now you gotta go right on site. Shit gonna be supreme for real. It's gonna be supreme team. Yeah, yeah, yeah. T-shirts for everybody.
00:27:09
Speaker
What the fuck you talking to my mama like that? Yo, crazy. My mama got gold too, though, man. My mama went and went for none of this shit. yeah My mama would have went toe to toe with that nigga talking to like that. Yeah, for sure. My mom would have.
00:27:22
Speaker
yeah They know who to talk to. They know who to talk to. There's no way. Ain't no fucking way. Did you guys ever wait on line?
00:27:34
Speaker
Never. No? I have never waited in line for nothing. For sneakers? No. only thing I'm waiting in line for is some food, bro. That's just it, bro. That's a necessity of life. have never waited in line for no sneakers. It's just something to be like, bro, this is the thing. i went, um, the Wolf Gray Fives. Yeah. I wanted them shits bad. Mm-hmm.
00:27:52
Speaker
And... my homeboy was like, man, we can go get in the line with a whoop. And at first I'm like, nah, man, fuck that. I'm not getting line with you, bro. But it was like, it was nice weather. We went out there. it was the It wasn't really the line, bro.
00:28:04
Speaker
Just the type of niggas that was in the line. I was like, yeah, fuck this. Fuck this. I ain't them niggas. Look at these fucking dweebs. Nigga, I was sitting on the bare ground, cross-legged. And then you gonna be out here with the fly shoes? I hate that. I hate that.
00:28:25
Speaker
That shit is crazy. ain't gonna rock them right. Is that? And then the worst thing that I've been, like I've always hated, is you roll up to a line, you wait in, and then the dude pulls up, skips the line, wearing the shoes already.
00:28:37
Speaker
Oh. Yeah. That happens out here. and i Yeah, y'all not fighting enough. You greedy, bro. Because I just seen a video of the dude with the Black Cat 5. I'm like, y'all making that shit corny, bro. like it is It get corny because it's like...
00:28:54
Speaker
People that probably didn't grow up in sneaker culture, but like got hip to it through the internet. Like even like, I remember even like 2014, niggas started using bots to get the sneakers and shit. That's when I was out. Auto refresh joints. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's when I was out. Especially when they was doing the the Twitter links back then. People would just, they had bots that would be like auto refresh. As soon as you get the link, boom, you throw it in there and it will instantly add to cart. It was crazy. You sell like, you can make a, there was dudes making a killing on eBay of just making these like auto script bots and then they would just make like instant add to cart.
00:29:29
Speaker
You sell them for like 10 bucks a pop. oh yeah You just sell like a hundred of those. Yeah, like the hustle. Yeah. Yeah, I could fuck with the hustle, but I think it's a commodity that's like, you know, it's not, you know, it can just makes certain shit weird. Well, it's like they shoes, bro. Like, and a lot of y'all that buy the shoes, y'all buy them resell the shoes. And, you know, there's people out here that actually appreciate it and it's going to throw fits and that's what it's really for. Because shoes don't last forever. So it's like, I ain't a proponent of like stocking shoes. ain't none of Rock your shoes, bro. Yeah. Wear your shoes, bro. Yeah. You what I'm saying? They're not going to last forever. They're not... Like, it's not some like something to cherish. It's fly.
00:30:13
Speaker
Cop that shit. Rock that shit. Get you get some pictures. Keep it pushing. Keep it pushing. You know I mean? Yeah. I mean... that We're in this era now Where people These brands are just telling These random ass stories though And so like People are just trying to Make that part of the identity Of sneakers Yeah You know I mean obviously look Nigel Fire He did Brick by Bricks The Brick by Bricks are hard Very fire shoe But like, I think what's dope was everything around it. The messaging is just bricks around, you know, everything's a brick.
00:30:48
Speaker
You know, that's what he was saying. There was like, you know, this all extra messaging by him about it. murder Just make the shoes. Make the damn shoes. it Hey, it look good.
00:31:04
Speaker
That, they're shoes, bro. I don't need a story. Oh, you yeah yeah. Oh, I like the colorway. Yeah, yeah. That's good enough for me. i don't need a fucking story. I don't need a story. And it's funny because like the Wake 5s came out this year too, right? And the story was, it's just a New York shoe just to get flying.
00:31:26
Speaker
That's it. That's it. so so Hashtag done. Yeah. know what mean? Like, I don't like all that, bro. It's like, we we talk about this on our music show. um Shout out to New Music Monday. Yeah, shout out to New Music Monday, yo.
00:31:41
Speaker
When you send a song, just send a song, bro. I don't need you to say you the best rep in this DZ. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Name. When I hit I'll be all right. Song title. Link. Yeah. That's all we need, bro. I don't need, like, I'm the illest thing since Rock Kim. Shut up. You're not. You're not.
00:31:55
Speaker
You're not. Rock Kim never emailed a nigga a Raquel was on the block spitting. Yeah, yeah. He was rapping it. He was rapping it you live and direct. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? I ain't going to hold you. That had to be like... That's probably one of the most embarrassing things, though, is like when... um when niggas is trying to like get recognized for their skills and like they see somebody famous and they just come up with a 16 it's like bruh isn't the what's the most infamous one is uh uh what's homeboy the farnsworth bentley he was spitting a 16 to to redact it yeah something like that or there was a video of diddy getting like a 16. bruh the thing is his body language i was just talking about this with somebody last night um
00:32:46
Speaker
when you When you in that phase of like trying to prove something or you like kind of star struck or whatever, you ignore everything that you naturally ignore. Every detail. Body language, was like, bro, I'm halfway in the car.
00:33:00
Speaker
Let me spend a 16 for you. Let me spend a 16 to you. Hey, yo, in the back with the deck. you're like. I don't think they
Celebrity Impressions and Humor
00:33:09
Speaker
do. I don't think because I think most people understand like that ain't it. Nah, yeah. But in this situation- I'm going to start doing that to niggas. I said, yo! I said, hey, yo! I'm going to just keep me a red rose white ceiling in the tub. Yeah, yeah, And me every time I meet somebody famous, I'm going just- Cause you know, they be like, yo, Christian A's. I be like, red, rose, white, silly. What am I doing? I met the nigga, he just started spitting. So it's funny cause like I was wondering, you just made made me think about this. Cause now I'm realizing a ton of people definitely come up to me and be like, yo, yo mom my first kick story.
00:33:50
Speaker
So like do people pull up to you and be like, they tell you. yeah and not going to lie. So my shit gets super woke. yo It either gets super woke or like niggas just started telling me their life story. And it's like, as much as I'm kind of like humbled by the situation, like damn, yo, it's like, this is where I'm at in life. Like niggas is like, but I'm also like, mm-hmm.
00:34:16
Speaker
I don't know you, bro. like This is a crazy introduction. this is you know you You bypassing all the protocols. And you know it's like also hard to stop somebody when they're in the middle of telling you they life story. It's like they getting that shit off. So it's like, fuck, all right, well. you oh Oh, yeah, were a word. you that that That's what your dad did. All right, tell me more. they're having it on the way up here, though. The Uber driver.
00:34:41
Speaker
Oh, yeah? Yeah, we hop in the Uber.
00:34:46
Speaker
Nigga called his daughter. It's like 6 in the morning. It's 6 in the morning. Called his daughter. get up. Make sure you get up for school. who right I ain't paying no attention. She got to catch the bus whatever. He's like, yeah.
00:35:00
Speaker
You know, yesterday, ah you know, I didn't call her. And then she missed the bus. You know, for his for her fucking mom is. I was like, oh, shit. He just started rambling, bro. Shit. And then he had all the heat on. The heat is on in the cars, bro.
00:35:17
Speaker
That morning cold, that shit hit different, right? Yeah, yeah. Because it's been cold for hours. know what I'm saying? It's been nighttime. And this thing got the butts. My butt is My back hot. My back hot. hot. It's hot in the car. I cracked the window. You want me turn heat down? like, just drive. Just get me to the airport, Fuck it, bro. I'll die in here, bro. Fuck it. Fuck it. That bitch cooking, steamy, bro. And I had on that big ass jacket. You said, bruh. I was just like, I just don't want to hear no more about it. I don't want to hear about the one time, yeah, one time was so hot in the car. Like, bruh, right, bruh.
00:35:55
Speaker
He was about to get tenderism. bro oh well You stole all the phone, bro. ah yo A nigga go to hop out the car and your legs fall off?
00:36:06
Speaker
He just fall into the spine. Yeah, I think it's a, yeah, just don't bump, like, ah you know, just forcing a story in a nigga life is crazy. Yeah. Because it's like, read the room a little bit. For sure. um I want hear your story. Yeah. And then also, like, uh,
00:36:29
Speaker
yeah it's odd. It's a weird position to be in because you don't want to feel like you're complaining because I'm grateful. But it is also like ah a strange thing of getting pitched all the time. Like, i was talking to a lady, um I won't say weird because that'll be weird, but she was older lady. Yeah, yeah. i Clearly in her mid-60s. Mm-hmm.
00:36:49
Speaker
And her son a fan of the show, whatever the case may be. And I was just like, I met them on the street. And then she was like, yeah, I was thinking about starting a podcast. I was like, oh no. Here we go.
00:37:02
Speaker
was like, grandma. yeah Think about retirement. You know I'm saying? Think about that. Unless it's going to be called the Social Security Podcast. Let's just wrap this up, man. Like, what we talking about? You going to start a podcast.
00:37:14
Speaker
Ridiculous. like And talk about what? She didn't even have that answer. She was like, I ain't thought about it yet. know that's what I want to do, though. yeah I talked about this on the the last episode, too, because I get that. Like, my friends will be like, we'll have a conversation. Conversation goes great, you know, and at the end. this could have been a podcast. No, bro. No, we're good, bro. What just happened to great conversation? What happened to just yeah living your life? I mean, being present. I mean, I done been in hella places. I ain't never, I won't have no footage of it. Cause it's like, I'm just present. I'm here. Yeah.
00:37:46
Speaker
It still happened. Even if I didn't take a picture, you know what mean? And I think that, um, you know, people that I've haven't talked to in years, Like, man, you should let me up. Man, let me on your part, kid. Man, we think just alike. No, the fuck? We don't think just alike, bro. I know you. Yeah. Oh, now we on the same side now? Man, you know what I'm saying?
00:38:10
Speaker
You banned from Dillard's for stealing. You stealing? It's crazy. Ralph Lauren caught you. You caught a couple of charges behind that Ralph Lauren. Yeah. You want to be broke so bad? Yeah, I think it's just that thing. Like...
00:38:25
Speaker
people think it's easy and you know like I said the process like the the format of it all like you know that you have to invest to get started but people think it's just like you get on here and you start talking yeah people don't understand how many of their conversations are just boring and going nowhere you know I mean it's not just talking it's It's a show. As you said, wrap it up. Wrap it up. please Wrap it up. Pack it up. Pack it up.
00:38:50
Speaker
Everybody put the mics in the bag. Pack this shit up. you know I just saw Joe Budden's post about the state of podcast. It was like 40% of podcasts are not going to make it within the next couple months or whatever. And so i believe it it's interesting because like in this space, the sneaker space, after I started, we've gotten lot of uptick in podcasts. So when I heard this and I'm like, I hear you be like, yeah, wrap it up. Like some of these, some of these, not no shade, but some of these, you got to have like an idea. You have like an actual idea. Don't just be like, we're going to sit here, yap it.
00:39:30
Speaker
And then now you got a successful podcast. thing is, it's like,
00:39:37
Speaker
Media has to be for you. Yeah. You know what mean? Like, um you can't just have a face card and think, oh, you know, I ain't nothing else clicking. I'm going to just start a podcast. It's like, people have to find you interesting for one and then for two. Yeah.
00:39:54
Speaker
because we have so much entertainment to choose from, people going to make like a sound choice on where they spend their time. And it's like it's not a thing for everybody to do. um But that happens...
00:40:10
Speaker
Anytime we hear about money being made, everybody trying to go there. You know what mean? It's like striking gold for some people. But I think for me, it's like, you know, Joe joe has the right to talk like that. I mean, he's a big dog. So, of course, a big dog can say that. Yeah. um It don't necessarily make it true. But it is interesting to think about because a lot of people...
00:40:31
Speaker
um A lot people just honest this is what you're like. It's taking up space, bro. That too. And it's a grind that people aren't really ah the understanding. Bingo. So it's like you're going to be working towards something that you're not sure is really reaching people unless you see the interaction specifically that proves that people are really tapping in And then now how do you foster that? And now how do you have them share your word and be like, yo,
00:40:59
Speaker
This is fire. Tap into this. There was this article that I read that was like having a podcast or having podcast listeners, they treat it like it's a starting five. So they have their five and then it's how do you get in to the starting five? Yes. think for the most part...
00:41:20
Speaker
People watch like it's media. So people do it for the personality. So if they like your personality, that's what they really there for. know what mean? If if you have something valuable to say or, you know, great guests or things like that, that's an added bonus for real.
00:41:35
Speaker
um and And it may extend outside of your personality. But for the most part, things are active and like people falling in love with the creator and the show is just a good byproduct. You know what I mean? um And if the show is entertaining and it'll have its moments where people just like, they latch on, they'll never let go. But um I think for people that are like trying to come up and just start a podcast, you have to establish yourself on social media first. Because if people buy into your personality, they'll follow you to your show. But you can't just like, everybody can't just jump out there and do it. Yeah.
00:42:11
Speaker
Yeah, I did it wrong. I did both at the same time. I was like, I established myself and have a podcast. Right, right. Yeah, but when when did you start? 2020. That's different, though. know, a lot of people was just...
00:42:23
Speaker
Yeah. No, so this was my third podcast. So like. Oh, you been early. You was earlier. yeah Yeah. So like, but this was the actual real idea. Like the first kicks, let's use sneakers as a through line and then see how far we can get in this conversation. And so like the first two were totally different podcasts, but it I learned how to podcast.
00:42:45
Speaker
that And I was like, oh, I'm going to make my own. Do it myself. That's right. Now we here five years later. There you go. Like, yeah. But you talked about creators. And then I sent you a clip earlier.
00:42:56
Speaker
whom The Pharrell. The Pharrell. What's your thoughts on the jellyfishes, though? Actually, before we think they ugly. I think they're they're they're very ugly. Disgusting. Yeah. Yeah.
00:43:07
Speaker
But he said. Well, let's start let's go for the first clip because the first clip is he's in front of black entrepreneurs talking about how the government is is is
Critique of Diversity and Inclusion Comments
00:43:21
Speaker
tricks. is it part like He's like, there's two sides m he doesn't pay attention to it.
00:43:28
Speaker
Yeah. I mean, i think it's very convenient to be rich and apolitical. Yeah. Yeah. And then he diverts into... And I don't like being in a room full of people of color that don even aren't even like the top beneficiaries of DEI. You tell them, like you want to get hired because you're black or you want to get hired because you're best? like How about the fact that they're not getting hired because they're black?
00:43:51
Speaker
Exactly. that's the purpose of DEI. Right. um But the other thing is, you know,
00:43:59
Speaker
you you success at his level... Can't nobody tell him shit. Yeah. So instead of him saying, maybe I missed the mark or maybe I worded this wrong or upon reflection, it's just double down. Clip this. Clip this. It's like, okay, bro.
00:44:19
Speaker
Yeah. You know what What you said was still wrong. Yeah, exactly. So when that first clip went up, I was like, damn, Pharrell really let me down. For him to let me down again on top of that, like. Double whammy. Double wham. and it's And it's interesting too because like I was talking to a coworker earlier and he was like, yo, the biggest thing was like when he created Human Made and like that was like the start of him not really understanding the situation. What you mean?
00:44:51
Speaker
Nah, but he was part of it. That's what he was saying. And I was like... Oh, the brand he made. Yeah. Oh, okay. Yeah, but what you mean? Like... like was It's like some shaky business around? no No, no, Talking about like he's trying to label everybody as humans and sell it like that. yeah, yeah. yeah I get it. That's just a great marketing strategy to expand your consumer base. But I think...
00:45:15
Speaker
Yeah, bruh, you know, you start being creative director at Louis Vuitton and you're just making like, like whatever, shark bags and shit like that, on like lobster, lobster Louis Vuitton bags. and you You know, you just feel like you can do whatever you want. Right. and um You know, the Clips had a great album. So, yeah, I could have did with a less, little less on the Pharrell singer outside of like one song, maybe.
00:45:42
Speaker
So be it, I mean, not so be it, so far away was, it was okay. Yeah. The singing, but everything else, yeah, I agree. He could have kept singing. And we, you know, John Legend's right there. Yeah, yeah. and John Legend right He's right there. Yeah.
00:45:57
Speaker
He's right there, man. He's always ready. And then he was on the birds don't sing. I get it. Like, that's a Miguel type. Mm-hmm. saying? You call it. There's certain people you call the dream. There's certain people you call BJ's Chicago kids. There's certain people you can call. Yeah. You don't got to do everything. You're already making all the beats. You got to sing on everything. want to sing. But I get it though, man. You know, this is what you've been doing. You've had so much success.
00:46:21
Speaker
It gets to a point where, you know, can I miss? And if I do miss, is anybody going to tell me I did? Mm-hmm. People need to start telling him he's missing right now.
00:46:32
Speaker
I think they have. I think they think he's feeling it, but it's like... But for him to double... the end And it's like at a footwear. like Yeah, but that's another thing too. is like that like But the way he approached it lets you know that...
00:46:48
Speaker
it bothered him and probably, he probably felt like the people who were criticizing him was right because then, because when you start going, click this or like, you know, when you start doing all that, it's like,
00:47:02
Speaker
What's the point of that? You know what I'm saying? Nobody clipping it just because they feel like, oh, you somebody to steal on. It's like, bro, you said some bullshit, bro. And it's also like the context is all there.
00:47:15
Speaker
You clip something and you clip it out of context. But if you watch the whole thing, it's all there. It ain't no way to misconstrue that. He meant exactly what he said. Yeah, man.
00:47:27
Speaker
He definitely let me down right there. I don't, and I mean, I guess I didn't really understand his political view from the jump either. Yeah, but you make a brand called Human Made, and trying to act like you're offering, and so it is what it is. Did you ever wear ice creams?
00:47:42
Speaker
I'm about to, hopefully. was ice creams Cause like, you want yeah yeah, cause they re-releasing. yeah see So, and I think, so my biggest thing was the, the toe box on the older version. I felt like it was too small, but now they elongated a little bit. okay And so it looks a little bit more cleaner in my opinion. Niggas is haters. I'm doing deals like the majors. ah those Those shoes was fly. yeah yeah yeah um Also, Terry Kennedy about to come out.
00:48:13
Speaker
Free Terry Kennedy, man. t Terry on the way home. TK. Didn't he catch a body though? Yes, he did. He beat a nigga with a skateboard? Okay, maybe. No, maybe he need to stay in there. I redact that last statement. What the nigga did?
00:48:31
Speaker
Oh, self-defense? So keep it in. Free him. keep Free him. You know what I'm saying? Okay, okay, okay. Oh, okay. That's how he lost his mind or something. He beat a with a skateboard. I remember te Terry Kenny was on... Bam. Bam. Yeah, Compton-Ass Terry. Yeah, Compton Terry.
00:48:47
Speaker
Bebo LaBam was a wild time. Wild, wild time. That was a great show, though. great Great show. Great show. Love that show. It's MTV peak. Peak. It doesn't get better. It doesn't get better than Jackass. No, definitely not, man. Because like the thing is, it's like...
00:49:04
Speaker
It's a special point in time. Nobody's ever tried to recreate that show. They they did. who Loiter Squad? Not Loiter Squad. was another dude. He's fat white guy with glasses. and on his he tried He tried to be like jackass extreme and it was like it didn't hit.
00:49:18
Speaker
Yeah, because like... know what I'm talking about? It didn't it didn't hit. but it didn't I don't even know what you're talking about. Because here's the thing about that. One dude being dumb...
00:49:29
Speaker
Whatever. 10 dumb niggas? Yeah. Just doing whatever. my God, that's real entertainment, bro. And then you got to beat your dad up while you're on the toilet. Then you got Wee Man. You got Wee Man. You got Wee Man. Yeah.
00:49:42
Speaker
single go point think <unk>s wouldn cut water walk like auction it all he goess i wild Oh, my God. What? the money' The money's run dry. Yeah. The royalties don't hit the same no more. I mean, Steve-O decided to become- It's Steve-O? Steve-O's cutting his finger off. Steve-O back on drugs? I'm going have to- No, he's not. oh That man crazy. But it's funny. He went to- He shifted the podcast then.
00:50:09
Speaker
Steve-O? I can't listen to his park and his podcast. is yeah Because his voice is crazy. His voice sucks. His voice sucks. yeah And then he has a live show where he does like ah he does that his trick where it's like he he's does like hot sauce in the eye. He still doing it? Yeah, man.
00:50:27
Speaker
And that's how he finishes every show. That nigga's Gallagher. yeah yeah he's new it Well, he's our age, Gallagher. That sucks. good the Best of luck, Tim. Best of luck. I think the only one that's doing good is Johnny Knoxville. Yeah, Johnny Knoxville, he said, I'm going to get a couple roles in a couple movies. I'm going to be a Men in Black 3.
00:50:46
Speaker
That's it. You want to get us some money? Get out of here. And now he's like, you know what? I'm to pivot. I'm going become an actor. That's what I'm saying. And I'm going to bring in people to take so I can get money for Jagass. We got Jasper out there taking stunts. Perfect. Boom. but they go They didn't let Bam on the show on the last one. It pissed me off.
00:51:03
Speaker
Bam is struggling. Because he was wilding out. He was wilding out. He was wilding out. But I was just like, how you have Jackass without Bam? Bam is struggling with drugs. Yeah, man. Also, like, Ryan Dunn dying. Yeah, right. Yeah, definitely. You know, the crazier thing is, like, throughout all those seasons, I'm surprised, like, there are so many opportunities for just a freak accident to kill one of them. Yeah. And they just didn't.
00:51:25
Speaker
Like, when um Johnny Knoxville was just, like, blindfolded and let the bull hit him. Yeah, he could have died. That motherfucker could have impaled you. Yeah. It's just like, He just laughed it off and walked around with me. For our entertainment, they probably put them bodies through.
00:51:45
Speaker
It was for the love of love of the game, son. You always got to do it for the love of the game. love of the day you know That's what I'm saying, because they was doing that. um it was this It was this shit called CKY. Yeah, CKY came before. Before. Top of DVD. Those things was jumping out of speeding trucks into bushes. But y'all know that CKY is bringing you for it.
00:52:04
Speaker
ah Can't kill yourself.
00:52:07
Speaker
Didn't I know that. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. All right. We need a CKY sneaker. Can't kill yourself sneaker. Yeah. Put it on the ice cream. We gon' that out. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, we're not.
00:52:21
Speaker
Can't kill yourself. Sneaker is crazy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, well, the thing it's like, but they, but no for me, I was like, damn, that make a lot of sense. Cause that's what they was on. They were trying to the the shopping cart stunt. And then people started copying the shopping cart stunt. And that was going viral. on Well, but that's extremely dangerous. That's what blew jackass up, the shopping cart stunt. Yeah. yeah That was insane, man.
00:52:43
Speaker
Yeah, man. You got love white boys when they just- Yeah, when they just peak white boys. Yeah, yeah. They just go for it. I love when a white boy just go for Yeah, yeah. Just do it. go for it, bro. Fuck Let's abandon I ain't got nothing else going on, man. MTV white boys back in the Put me in a shopping cart. Throw me down the hill.
00:52:58
Speaker
Fuck it. See if I make it. Fuck it. Fuck it. Why not? Make sure you get it on video, though. Yeah, but these motherfuckers also live in, like, the suburbs of Pennsylvania. Nothing to do. Wasn't having shells going on. Dude, just bored as hell. Let's jump off the house, son.
00:53:13
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Let's c climb on the roof. Let's climb on the roof. Let's jump off. Like, the fuck no. not doing that. Dumbass. so ah You recently i started doing a sneaker giveaway, right? Yeah, for sure. For sure. I was a Soul Circle Foundation. Mm-hmm. So Soulplay is a sneaker store. Shout out to T.J. All of them.
00:53:31
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Yeah, yeah, man. Shout out to all the good people at Soulplay. But J. Will, me and J. Will is is cool, man. J. Will is the homie. That's the homie. um And he know I'm always like, anything that's charitable, and especially if it's going to help kids, we always going be for it. We actually, um man, shout out to Jamel Hill, man. Jamel Hill is donating a a ton of sneakers. And I also, I'll tell y'all this first. So somebody reached out to me. They live Outside of the States. When they lived in the States, they had, they were a sneaker collector.
00:54:07
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um Before they left, they put all of their sneakers in a storage unit. um He listens to the show and he was like, yo, I'm never going to do anything with those sneakers.
00:54:18
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He was like, you can donate them all. It's a whole storage unit full of sneakers. Wow. He was like, some of them just brand new. And he was like, if you see anything in you in there you want, you can get it. And I was like,
00:54:30
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be So, you know, maybe find me like 10 pair that go crazy. yeah That's my finder's fee. You know what I'm saying? Take me to the flight club. They just like give me a little, you know what mean, money. and But it's it's it's like close to 300 pair of sneakers.
00:54:48
Speaker
Jeez. I'm going to have take it Let me get your information. Yeah, I got you, Zane. I got you, Zane. I you, Zane. I think all his shoes is nine and a half. Okay. Okay. All right. All right. You you got to chill. You got to storage yourself, man. they are as Yeah, let you know what I'm saying. But I think for that, it's like to be able to have the influence and people reach out yeah and, you know, do that. Like, bro, there's going be kids out here with that that wasn't going to get no shoes otherwise. um So I'm just, you know, I'm happy anytime we can do something that's going help kids.
00:55:19
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I'm with it. No, yeah. the That's what I'm hoping to do as well, too, especially around here. And, I mean, we help we help people out in Jersey. I got my my homie, Dolly, who does a spot does a donation in Connecticut. So, like, hoping to do more of that and, like, sponsor some more of that, too, because, like, the yeah, we're doing the book back giveaway. Dope, dope. Yeah.
00:55:45
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Daryl, yeah. Shout out Soul Scholars. But yeah that yeah. It's all about giving, i think it's just like once we get into that, we get the opportunity, right? Like, that's how we bring more people together.
00:55:59
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that Like more kids that actually can bridge that gap of being like, yo, I remember this podcast gave me a pair of sneakers. shows hand You know? And then it's like, nah, love these sneakers. Forever. You know what I'm saying? And they like, you know, like they've been they look out for us. You know what I'm saying? like Like a lot of times I'm not looking at new drops, so i don't know, but J. Will is on top of it. Oh, yeah. So he was like, you want the black hat for us? I was like,
00:56:23
Speaker
Yes. Please. That's what I need. yeah And it's never like, with from from with me and him, it's never about like money. I don't need money for that. Like the shoes is cool. um They fly, you know what mean? So it's that. And then it's like, okay. So I get free shoes and I get to help kids. Bro, that's a win-win. Win-win, Everything don't got to be like a money grab. yeah yeah I think when you go, when you do everything for the money, fuck around. That's all going have. Yeah. You're just going to be alone with money.
00:56:52
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That's a tough life, man. You can't buy friends. Can't buy relationships. can't it's a lot is The most of things that matter in life are like don't have a monetary value.
00:57:13
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We can hear you, but they can't
New York's Unique Character and Wisdom
00:57:15
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hear you. But no, that was good. yeah. yeah Nah, nah, nah, nah,
00:57:28
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yeah most of times people hate you for who you are and not what you do yeah some real shit yeah this bit absolute factx i just hit it gave us like some that's what i would imagine that's what i would imagine that new york was when i was a kid like niggergen listen my nigger yo very me tell you some sign Niggas gonna hate you because of who you are. Not what you got, Not what you got, son. So it real, son. Stay up, baby. Keep it real, son. You know what's so funny? I had a moment like that the other day, bro. I just thought New York was full of niggas with infinite wisdom. Nah, this OG on the block gave me a compliment.
00:58:08
Speaker
And I was like, this is this is the first. He's like, he he I pass by him and he goes he goes, damn, man, you looking real sharp. Don't cut nobody. Nah, he was like 60. He was like 60. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He had a long trench. I don't even know what that is. That's a trench hat combo. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Trench with the hat, matching hat with the trench. He's like, right. Nah, nah, nah. That's hilarious, nigga. I ain't gonna hold you, man. Like, a compliment really could really make your name. Yeah. Nobody could talk to me after that, bro. try to, I really actually actively, if I see something like, I try to tell people. As long as it, you know, time and place, for sure. Yeah, yeah, You gotta read the room, as you say. Yeah, yeah, yeah. definitely gotta read the Read the room. Shit can get weird. Yeah.
City Fashion Stereotypes
00:58:54
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Shit can get wicked. Yeah. Imagine. Never mind. Go dark, son. It wasn't gonna be dark. It was just gonna be inappropriate. So, let's pushing. Okay, okay. but we're towards the end of the podcast and then have one last question where I hold on got one question alright yeah what city you gonna sneak ahead right yeah what city do you think consumes the most Jordans consumes the most Jordans buys the most Jordans what city do you think like all time they'll wear them on the same day they drop everybody in the city got the same Jordans on what city do you think that is
00:59:27
Speaker
Atlanta? Nope. Nah, want to say Chicago. Nope. New York? Nope. North Carolina? Go, go, go, go. I know. I was just saying. Go deeper south. Deeper south? Yeah. Florida? Florida?
00:59:38
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Miami. Nah, come up. Texas. Go over. Savannah. That's Jordan. Nah. Birmingham, Alabama. Birmingham, Alabama. Like we got a map right here. In your mind you should. know where you at at all times. I know you traveled all the 50 states. Birmingham, they'll cop them, they'll wear them on the same day.
01:00:02
Speaker
Everybody in the city. yeah I went to school with niggas from Alabama. they wear the same shoes. If they drop, they're going wear them to class. They're going wear them every day. Everybody got the same shoes on from Alabama. um i I keep them on ice if that's the case because then you pull up. Nah, there ain't no ice for them.
01:00:17
Speaker
They want them hot. No, I'm saying me. If everybody from Alabama. They want them fresh. I said, I've never seen each other in my life. I was like, all y'all got the same shoes on. It's 50 niggas outside the same shoes. I said, nah, this is crazy. There's only so many ways you can style a shoe, bro.
01:00:34
Speaker
That's like when the awake fives drop out here, bro. Everybody was wearing them joints, man. Everybody. Pink shoes like crazy. Do you ever answer? Have you ever answered your question? Yeah, several times. Yeah, yeah, yeah. yeah well'll see I'll answer you what it is. Do it now! Yeah, yeah.
Childhood Memories and The Significance of Jordans
01:00:48
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it's ah So I split it into two stories because it deals with ah my childhood best friend who passed away last year. So in Christmas... Condolences,
01:01:01
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Thank you. So Christmas one year, my childhood best friend came up to me and he's like, I got the new Jordans. And he got on the 14s. All right.
01:01:13
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I'm begging my mom, please, next year, can I get some Jordans? Right. But I don't know how Jordans work. I don't know. There's another one coming out. So I'm thinking,
01:01:24
Speaker
I'm about to get some 14s, bro. Chicago 14s. Let's go. I'm going to look first. She got the 15s? She got me 15s with the quilts on the side.
01:01:37
Speaker
And so that happens. that So I open the box, right? And what happens is I get those, and those are my my first kicks. Okay. ah The Jordan 15s. But so fast forward, because now this is this is the chance I get right now. This year, copped.
01:02:00
Speaker
I don't know if you remember the Klopp 14s came out. its like ah It was based off Terracotta Warriors. I know exactly. And so i got those. Right.
01:02:11
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And I bought those with in mind that my childhood best friend was like, those was his first Jordan. So was like, boom, got those. That's hard. I got to meet Tinker half though. Oh shit. Tell him the story about how the 15s were my first, but these were really the shoes that I wanted.
01:02:29
Speaker
Signs them for me. And so I have them in the crib. That's crazy. That's a hell of a story, bro. That shit's crazy. I almost cried just now. My bad. Bro, I felt I felt the energy. Shout out to you, my brother. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Nah, bro. Be a man. Be a man. Cry. Take your glasses on me. Nah, Patreon. I cry on Patreon. Yeah, that's real. That's real. That's real. They pay for them emotions. Yeah.
01:02:52
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All
Financial Priorities and Shoe Preservation
01:02:54
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right. All right. last question deals with a little visualization. i want you to think back to y'all both your first pairs. Now you're older. You behind your younger self. What would you tell your younger self as you ah as he opens that box?
01:03:08
Speaker
Man, man, fuck them shoes. Get dirty. Run outside, get them dirty, son. Yeah, I just tell them, they not going to last. They not going last, bro. Don't start this shit, bro. Tell you, don't it don't end.
01:03:24
Speaker
I remember i was when I was 21, I got my first, like, I had my first child. No, so I was 22 because I had my first child right at 21. Got my first income tax check back.
01:03:37
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Dog.
01:03:39
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He was like, let's get let's pop out two more. Pop out some dorms. Check me out, bro. My girl came to the crib. She was like, where did all these shoes come from? was like, yeah, I just, you know what mean? Income tax shit. She was like, nigga, what about saving money and bills and all this other stuff? I'm like, we're good. We're great.
01:04:00
Speaker
And this is another thing that people don't think talk about when it comes to shoes. You got to have a fit to wear with it. Yeah. Yeah. I'm going to leave y'all on that. Y'all that white tees?
01:04:13
Speaker
you do It used to be very simple to dress back in the day. But I'm saying, I was just remember like having brand new shoes and like old jeans, faded. Damn, I ain't even thinking about that part. ain't thinking about what the where with i lovely but that's no garment guy there no car gary got no fit no fit's aren't about these shoes is off as color nothing to wear Nothing to go with it. Stupid shit. yeah crazy yeah the Big cat? just No, just, yeah.
01:04:40
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Run to the ground? Don't worry about what your mom say, son. Don't get them shoes dirty. Nah, get them dirty.
Guest Promotions and Social Media Handles
01:04:47
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Let everybody know where to find y'all. right, man. Deontay Kyle, deontay.kyle on IG.
01:04:53
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The Gritsnaz Podcast on YouTube and Patreon. Big Ice Club Cat on Instagram and TikTok. um Follow New Music Mondays. i do host New Music Mondays.
01:05:04
Speaker
ah You bullshitted rappers, send your shit in. Now you're a bullshit rabbit. I'm just playing. Now y'all send some stuff in, man. We got some special things popping up for real. Yes, sir. yeah You know where to find me. Who is Hassan on social media? Follow the podcast My First Kicks pod. Hit up that Patreon. You know, patreon.com slash myfirstkicks.
01:05:22
Speaker
And you about to, well, no, I'm going to toss it to myself to do the outro. So peace. I hope you enjoyed this week's episode with Deontay Collin, Big Ice Cup Cat.
01:05:33
Speaker
Man, these guys are such an inspiration. We got to talk a little bit after and, of course, at their live show that they got to do in New York, here in New York, in Brooklyn.
01:05:45
Speaker
Man, this episode was real cool. i got to chop it up with them. And seeing him Beyonce, like, blow up over this past, like, couple years, man, it's been really, really dope to see. does give me, like, hope that I'm able to get...
01:06:03
Speaker
to where I want to go, especially with this podcast. Podcasts in general have been fluctuating up and down. We talked a little bit about what Joe Button said recently about the state of podcast and how a lot of them are making their way out. and you know i made this is My remarks during this episode is not necessarily towards shots at anybody, but I do know i was pretty like saying like, yo, a lot of these sneaker podcasts. Look, what I've been noticing and seeing is that since the 2020, people were like, podcast is the wave, podcast is the wave. And I get it. Like, when I first jumped into it, I did not think of podcasting to be this like, yo, I'm going to make a ton of money out of this. Nah, man, I was really just...
Podcast Origins and Challenges
01:06:58
Speaker
in the house and going little bit stir crazy because I wasn't having a ton of these conversations or having a conversation in general. I was just working and, and hitting on sneakers here and there. And, you know, i would go on clubhouse or go on Twitter and have a ton of these conversations that like, I always felt like everybody was just complaining about reselling and buying like sneakers and, you know, oh I'm going to do wearing sneakers if we can't go outside. We haven't been going outside for a whole year. And so for me, I just took that moment to kind of just like sit down and be like, yo,
01:07:38
Speaker
i had this idea for two years i need to act on it right and if you listen to the episodes if you listen to the podcast you've you've heard me say this like it's an idea that i started in 2018 that i never really acted on but i did start a couple other podcasts and this is my third time making a podcast like shout out to derek uh who's a patreon subscriber um but we had a podcast before this podcast that i ended up buying all this equipment for And i was like, man, you know what? I tried this. Let me actually try something that I really want to do because doing GetUpOnThis 2.0 was more just for fun, but it was also just kind of like a trial run of like, do people want to hear me talk?
01:08:19
Speaker
Right? Like the, it's just an interesting thing because putting yourself out there is something that doesn't really get talked about. You just kind of just see people do it. But the whole mindset to get to where you're like, yo, all finally, I'm just going to put this stuff out there. All finally. Like it takes a long time to kind of break out of the, yo, there's got to be perfect phase in your brain. And it took me a long time, obviously two years to actually be like, all right,
01:08:53
Speaker
I have been had this concept. Let's just put it out and let's just do it. Started over Zoom and now we in studio and it's just been crazy. Like, I also have to just straight up just say thank you to everybody. This year has been insane, right? Going out with this episode with Deontay and Big Cat, like, it's crazy. I never thought, like, starting the year off with Mero and ending it with Deontay Like I'm going to do a full recap episode by myself. That's going to come out next year. i mean, next year, next week, technically next year, but, um,
01:09:34
Speaker
I'm going to do a full recap up of the year, but like just this small outro here, just wanted to to just to say like it's been wild. i've I've been able to accomplish so much in this year with actually actually putting my head down and getting these clips out, getting the podcast up, getting these guests.
01:09:53
Speaker
And it's just been crazy. It's just been crazy. like people come up to me and tell me how much they like listening to the podcast and learning from it. And so, you know, if you're checking this episode out, this may be your first episode. This may be your 251st episode. Just know that like what I'm always going to put out is something that you will take away from.
01:10:19
Speaker
a message. It's a, like, like it's, it's all encompassing, it's stories, it's it's paths that you may wanna travel, that you may wanna avoid, that you may wanna try out or hear, and you've always wanted to hear about somebody's journey in a specific way. And so when it comes to me, that's what I'm aiming to to bring with this podcast.
Community Support and Personal Stories
01:10:45
Speaker
And I am extremely grateful to have this chance. And and so many people have been
01:10:53
Speaker
really giving me confidence every time I put out an episode, somebody's like, yo, without like seeing the way you work, like I've been able to, you know, start my own thing. And I'm like, yo, that is, that is so dope to me. I, I always talk about, especially like the past, like three or four years. Like I always had to think about what is more important, my impact, my reach, like, am I, am I putting too much, you know,
01:11:22
Speaker
faith into the numbers and then is that going to help me get bigger or is that like what is big what is being bigger and and so to me it's always going to be impact and i like there are moments where especially throughout this year where I'd wake up Mondays and Tuesdays and I'll be like, man, I just kind of want to just end the podcast. Like you, you, you'll hear like, I'll, I'll, I'll sometimes put it on Twitter about that stuff too, where it was just like, I'll think about it.
01:11:51
Speaker
And then all of a sudden somebody messages me like, yo, that last week's episode, man, that really, really tapped in with me. Like, you know, really got me through something that I wasn't really thinking about and trying to avoid. And I got through it, but yo, just keep going. And,
01:12:06
Speaker
I will say that every single time, every single week this year, i was getting that keep going text, like or keep going message. And it means the world to me.
01:12:18
Speaker
And, you know, as I'm hoping to keep continuously building this community. And so the my First Kicks community can actually help each other out as well. Like you've heard on this specific episode where the Grits and Eggs podcast is able to do that as well.
01:12:33
Speaker
Like, that's one of my biggest goals, like to have a community that interacts with each other. We're able to share my first kick stories. We're able to continuously check in on each other and talk about, you know, the crazy stuff that we see in sneakers or what we think is really cool. And so I'm hoping in the next couple of years we can get that where it's a thriving community. um
01:13:00
Speaker
I wanted to make sure we went out with a bang for 2025. And we
Holiday Reflections and Family Connections
01:13:08
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did. you This episode was mad fun.
01:13:11
Speaker
And I can't thank every one of y'all for i can't thank each and every one of y'all you know enough. ah I will have to say, you know, I hope y'all had a beautiful holiday, Christmas, whatever um holiday y'all celebrate, you know, Kwanzaa, Hanukkah, all y'all.
01:13:32
Speaker
But, you know, moment ah of like transparency here but like christmas has never been my real big like december in general has never been a real good month for me ever really i'm always like super emotional or super like standoffish here and there until um christmas comes and goes right You know, I've, you know, i grew up, I grew up with just my mom and like not a lot of family here. And so this year I was really just like, damn, I really wish I had like a big family, like seeing that and, and, and being able to, to like share this, this year with people would have been like people of like, like my family would have been so dope.
01:14:25
Speaker
And so, I'm like coming down from being so angsty throughout this whole month. And, and, you know, I'm pretty sure you've seen like the past, like three or four episodes and you'd be like, damn, man, he seems kind of like wishy-washy at the end or whatever. um I've been trying my best, you know, mental health is important. And I always make sure that like, I'm having these conversations with myself. Obviously I've probably had these conversations with somebody else as well, but um December's has always been this like tumultuous thing.
01:14:57
Speaker
ah month for me and I still made sure that we was doing episodes and i i i definitely on top of that was super super overworked at work and doing the podcast together and so that also played into this and ah my motivation was super down to get stuff done but Season's over.
01:15:23
Speaker
Christmas is done. We're here and we're about to jump into the new year.
Future Podcast Goals and Community Growth
01:15:28
Speaker
So I'm going to leave all of that in December. Right. And we all look towards the future in January. And like I said, i'm going to be doing podcast.
01:15:41
Speaker
solo episode to start off the year, talk about the entire journey in full. So I'll expand about December as well in that episode next week. um And then after that, yo, yo, we off to the races. I've got such great guests lined up for next year. Like I'm so excited to jump into that. um Yo, and also this is the first year, first full year I did every single, i did an episode every single week without stopping, right?
01:16:10
Speaker
And I'm hoping to do do that again next year. um But I really appreciate y'all. And of course, you know, we got to do Patreon shout out. So shout out to Ross Adams, Adam Neustetter, Plox.
01:16:24
Speaker
We've got Jordan Kaiser, Samia, Derek Hawkins, Derek Lipkin. And then we have Jesse, Jesse G and Adam Butler.
01:16:37
Speaker
So shout out to y'all for tapping into
Patreon Support and Exclusive Content
01:16:39
Speaker
Patreon. And you can also get a Patreon shout out at patreon.com slash myfirstkicks. have a special treat, which guys you if you heard in the middle of the episode, dropping my first Patreon exclusive episode. It's me and Joe, higher learning or higher living, uh,
01:17:01
Speaker
Host of Thoughts of the Soul podcast. Sat down with him, talk about Black Footwear Forum. We also, and I'll be honest with y'all, we get real into this. Like, it's not some like real wishy-washy, but we talk about ah just the perceived notion of like being black in this community, being a person of color in this community, and also just like in terms of just like the sneaker community itself, and then also being a designer um and the notions of not like how the community perceives a product that's done and reaching people.
01:17:41
Speaker
So I really would love y'all to tap in with that episode. It's going to be Patreon only. You have to pay $5, just $5 to watch and listen to that episode.
01:17:51
Speaker
And that's going to come out next week, maybe like Wednesday or so. No, wait, probably before that. It's definitely going to come out next week though. um But of course, I appreciate y'all for tapping in. I hope you have a great, great, great,
01:18:08
Speaker
new years. Uh, and if you're watching this in the future, I've hope you had a great holiday in 2025 and I hope you had a great 2025. Um, but if you want to check out more episodes of the podcast, you can check out these two episodes here and you can subscribe to the podcast here as well. And of course, you know, we say each week, wear your kicks.
01:18:32
Speaker
Peace.