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Sneak This Season 2 with Rob Haze
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This week Rob Haze is back on the podcast, we talk about how he's gatekeeping comics from getting into sneakers. Why Jordan messed up switching to the Jumpman logo. Creating Sneak This and why he thinks sneaker comedy would work now. Why he thinks the Shattered Backboards shouldn't exist and much more!
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Transcript
Imagining Alternative Sneaker Timelines
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but we Think about it. Think about how the 10 would be if the off-white Jordan 1 had a jump man and he like stapled to the side. just like hanging off. Gigantic. Because some idiots in 2001 bought their freaking.
00:00:14
Speaker
but they're freaking yeah Jordan 1's with the jump man on the side. Like, like if those were the, if those were the, those the pigeon dunk crazy, that's the world we would live in right now, dog. there is definitely an alternate timeline. Yeah. Where we're talking about this, we're talking about this shoe and be like, yo, imagine if there was slush. Finally they fixed it.
00:00:33
Speaker
They finally fixed the Jordan 1, dog. 2002. I remember like it was yesterday. Dawg, the Tiana Taylor's got all kind of spikes coming out of the Jumpman on the side, bruh.
00:00:46
Speaker
Come on, man. Travis Scott got upside down Jumpmans. The Man Jumpman on the handstand. Dawg.
Reconnecting with Rob
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Speaker
What's good everyone. Welcome back to my first case. This episode two 59. And this week I got a returning guest. Hey, three time. Yeah. Part three. I've done every iteration. Yeah. I've done with the two hosts while I was watching the VMAs. You what I'm saying? yeah During COVID.
00:01:20
Speaker
uh uh yeah and and then it was me and you solo yeah me you solo on zoom now in person we in person yeah hey man welcome to the podcast rob welcome back welcome back thanks for having me thanks for having me man now big shout out to you for for hooking me up with mandel that episode was crazy hey man had to oh it was funny because like i i remember i was telling him we're when you when i asked you And I was like, yo, can you hook Mandel? You were like, he don't really like sneakers like that. thats you That was your response. I mean, Mandel would tell you that. Yeah. he not I mean, he getting into him now.
00:01:58
Speaker
And like, it's, you know, but like his whole thing Mandel, man, Santa. Yeah, no. You know what I'm saying? Like he just in a different, He in the sandal space. Different footwear. Yeah. The footwear important. But he in a different footwear space. Yeah. But yeah. Nah. He be wearing the runners and stuff. I hope you've been enjoying this week's episode with Rob Hayes. You know.
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Supporting the Podcast: How and Why?
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ah Spotify. And of course, if you want to go the extra, extra, extra mile,
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hit up the Patreon, patreon.com slash myfirstkicks. All money goes right back into the podcast, gets me in the studio, gets me to do other things, especially like build out the Patreon. So patreon.com slash myfirstkicks really goes a long way. Hit that up.
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So, let's jump right back into
Comedians and Sneakers: A Love Affair?
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the episode. and some now You know, when comics get money, they turn into 12-year-olds. Exactly. You got to catch up. it's like It's like they got a field trip right They immediately got to go to Foot Locker and get something, you know? I'm leaving here with something. I finally got that that show to go through. And then you're like, let's go. We going. going to pick up some Jordans. Right, right.
00:03:28
Speaker
And... ah as someone who was getting sneakers the whole time, it's a little annoying. It's a little annoying. Why is it annoying? Because I was sacrificing at everything to live out my dreams, but I was still also like, well, maybe I can't eat out this time. Yeah.
00:03:49
Speaker
And maybe I get, you know i'm saying? Because the threes come out in November. Exactly. You know what I mean? you're like, right, we get the pack of ramen. You know, we stretch the ramen out. Right.
00:04:01
Speaker
And then we get the threes and still be able to, I don't know, and still be able to do a spot for a hot dog and $50. Yeah. I'm sleeping outside of Gotham Comedy Club for an open call. Yeah. But I got on some countdown pack 12s when I'm doing it. You know what I'm saying? Like, that's just me. That's just me.
00:04:21
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It don't matter, you know what saying? It's just like, that's
The Future of Sneaker Culture
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the thing. you gate So you gatekeeping sneakers to comics now? are you the Are you the... I'm not gatekeeping. I'm just saying when when it's new, we know.
00:04:36
Speaker
hu When it's new, we know. yeah I'm not gatekeeping. Do your thing. But got to come see you, though. I don't need sneakers they to be corny. I don't need people to be like, oh, we are we off sneakers. you You look like, you know what I'm saying? like We sitting here in throwbacks. There's some people looking at us like, man, y'all living in the past. Yeah, yeah, yeah, true. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, true. So, like, yeah, I don't need that.
00:05:01
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What think... the sneaker community needs u hu is people to stop having this like old school mindset yeah of this sneaker's cool, this
Unique Sneaker Styles: Rob's Super Bowl Kicks
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sneaker's not. This is what we on now, this is what we not on. We need to spread out. We need to diversify. yeah If this thing is going to survive,
00:05:23
Speaker
then we need to, you know, like the the manufactured hype needs to die down. I'm cool with that. Yeah. And I'm cool with people finding their own thing. You know what saying? Yeah. Yeah.
00:05:35
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Like I've been wearing football kicks all week. Right. Stuff that is associated with Dion and and Bo Jackson and Dan Marino and stuff all week because it's Super Bowl week. Right. Yeah. That's me. Yeah.
00:05:49
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Other people, that no one even noticed. You know what I'm saying? When I'm walking around, nobody's like, oh man, it's been all football all week. You what I'm saying? But it's just like, yeah, something I'm doing. Well, the thing is, is like unless you post it on the gram, like, yo, I'm doing it. this is not This is the football week. And then you put the fit every time on the gram.
00:06:08
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I think that's what people are accustomed to now. It's not like nobody's gonna stop you on the street. No, I mean, sometimes, sometimes. but do you like to have Like, I got these early. This is the first kicks I ever got early.
Sneaker Free Agency: Kobe vs. Curry
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okay And so, like, me wearing them before they came out has been a little a little thing for You know what I'm saying? I have, like, broken necks in a way that I haven't in a long time. They're like, those those come out yet? you like Outside of, like, some wild colors or something.
00:06:38
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You, I mean, you were wait, how'd you get them early? Flight club. Oh, okay. I thought was about to do a flex. don't got no plug. thought you were going to be like, yo, yeah. I don't got no plug. Dion hooked it up.
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No. No. I've been around the man, but never met the man. No. yeah I mean, were you work in Super Bowl. Yeah, but like when certain people are around, everybody trying to talk to them. Yeah.
00:07:04
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And like, you know what I'm saying? Like every every player former, current, future, wants to talk to Dion and have a moment with Dion. So it's not like you could, you know.
00:07:16
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You don't think that's the alluring part where you just stay away and then they're like, all right, I got this one. Nah, you don't see the person on the side and be like, all now know if I don't want to talk to, got one guy I can pull up on and be like, hey, how's it going? Like, you don't think he thinks like that?
00:07:33
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Nah. Where you just play it all the way in the back and just be like, yeah, you know, you're not really, you're just like, whatever. When it happens, it'll happen. And if it don't happen, I'm still a fan. You can't take back, you know, the 90s. You can't take back like. You can't take back primetime. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. No, I got the CD. I got the primetime CD. You know what saying? Yeah. can't take that back. See, you got to bring that, and then you give them the sign that.
00:07:58
Speaker
Nah, it's ah ah Lou Young got everything. yeah He got the CD, he got the single, he got the tape,
Shaq's Rap Career and Sneaker Memorabilia
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and he got it all signed. So it's like, crazy so might so i east that's crazy heavier and yeah, the The number one if if there's a number one Dion fan, there's definitely a number one Shaq fan. Like, just rap Shaq fan.
00:08:18
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Oh, for sure. 100%. For sure. for sure Shaq went gold. Shaq went platinum. yeah yeah A lot of people bought that album. yeah a lot A lot of people bought that album. like Platinum means ship, but people bought that album. It was people driving around and, can we rock? What's up, Doc? Can we rock?
00:08:41
Speaker
What's up, Doc? Yeah. Shaq was taking bars from Bugs Bunny, man. That was a wild time, was a wild time. Yo, man. Did you see they brought back the Shaq-nosis, but like low cut?
00:08:53
Speaker
Yeah. Hey, man. We don't need to chop the top off of everything. I mean, but that look fire. i like those. You know what it is? It don't look different enough for me to be like, oh, yeah.
00:09:05
Speaker
Shaq the biggest dude. I know. He don't need no low top. What are we doing? Maybe he, that was his suggestion. What are we doing? Y'all don't make enough shit. Me and Reebok's website be beefing anyway. Why?
00:09:19
Speaker
Every release is it's just stuff be gone in my size. I mean, we're the same size. 12 just be gone. no, I'm 13. So, yeah, yeah, yeah.
The Frustrations of Online Sneaker Releases
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Every release. And it's like like day of, 701, you know what I'm saying? like at least At least Nike make me feel like it slipped through fingers. You know what I'm saying? It'd be like, you they send an email, and the email would be like, my shoe's about to come out. yeah And then it'd be gone.
00:09:49
Speaker
I had some crazy thing happen. a Finish Line sent me the wrong D-Browns. Okay. I bought the black D-Browns. Right, yeah. The only D-Browns. And they sent me the white ones in the black box.
00:10:02
Speaker
Somebody switched them. Somebody definitely switched them Somebody was in the back of the warehouse like... Right, because they was on sale. I sent you the link. They was on sale, and I was like, ooh, I'm going to get these.
00:10:16
Speaker
Yeah. I still need a pair of those because
Nostalgia and Retro Sneaker Challenges
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I haven't. I need grandmamas, the React Juice Converse. I need a retro of those to come out, first of all. It's funny because when those first retro, nobody was checking for them. Nobody. You could have got them. I know. But this is when I was like, I think, when did they retro? 2016? 2017, I think it was.
00:10:39
Speaker
I know it was an era where I was like broke, broke. They retroed a couple times. I know they did the all black pair. Because I know they retro when we was in high school and then they retroed. Yeah, like in the in the past 10, 15 years. Yeah, because they dropped the all black pair. That was fire. But like, I think I just missed it completely. Because this is when I was probably like super Nike SB. So i'll only I only copped Nike SBs. I wasn't copping anything else.
00:11:06
Speaker
And then or like I just didn't have money. So it wasn't like I would whenever I don't have enough money to buy sneakers, I just don't look at sneakers. For me, a shoe like that will always come out around the time I got some grapes or some aquas or something that that that's that color that I like want way more. So it's just kind of like when those came out.
00:11:29
Speaker
When those came back out, I think I was like, I have grapes. Yeah. I have no reason to wear a Larry Johnson shoe because I got you know what I'm saying?
Colorways and Sneaker Exclusivity
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The Chris Rock Seinfeld Fresh Prince shoe. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. I mean, they're classics. Grapes are classics. Yeah. You know, so it's like, it's hard. When you see something...
00:11:51
Speaker
that's This is the thing where it's just like when you see, and i don't know if I ever had this, like maybe this is a a good kind ah convo about like colorways where it's like, does it really hit the same when it's on a different shoe? Like if you synonymously know, you know, Chicago colorway, obviously for Jordan, but then you see it on like a dunk, does it, do you still, do you still be like, I got it I'm like, you still appeal to it because of that? oh no like It's kind of like, whatever. Hell no.
00:12:20
Speaker
I think most shoes shouldn't come in red and black and white. You think that just like retire it to only Jordans? Yeah. Yeah.
00:12:32
Speaker
Only Jordans, only, you know what I'm saying? Maybe D. Rose, he played for the Bulls. Yeah. Sure. you know what I'm saying? Yeah. ah You know, LeBron on the Heat. I hated i hated that the first LeBrons always launched in a red colorway. I think that was ah a grave mistake that that Nike used to do. And they always used to be, like, the classic basketball colorway of red and black. And it's like...
00:12:57
Speaker
what are y'all doing? The cabs don't wear this. No, they don't. The cabs wear wine. Yeah, I was going to say like a blonde. And that's stuff we could rock. You know what saying? They wear like khaki and like wine and like navy. And it's like, bro, you could get so much off to that. And they never considered that. It was always like, no, we got to give them some Jordan colors.
00:13:20
Speaker
i I'd be ready to go to Nike and stand on the table, man. Oh, like Kanye? Yeah. Like, yeah. You just pull it? Like anybody. All I know is Kanye. I know Kanye do it. Like Bobby Sperda. Did Bobby Sperda do that? Not like Anderson. Because he fell off the table. Did he? Yeah. There was video of that too? There's video of that. I got to see that. He gets on the table. He's like, yeah, my album coming out.
00:13:44
Speaker
And then he's fall off the table. You never seen that? I've never seen it. The only one I ever seen was- He's trying crib walk on table. No Yeah. I don't know. He fell off so fast. I don't know what he was trying to do. He's like 5'6", so he still had head room. like That's like, you can't do that if you're 6 feet.
00:14:02
Speaker
He was like, yes, Lord. Yeah. Fell off the table. He was like, y'all got me hot. Yeah. I think it's just like, I mean, well, I've been to Nike. Mm-hmm.
00:14:15
Speaker
When it comes to like colorways and like the the way it's like constructed and stuff like that, I don't know if it's like, should we go back to just doing team colorways again? Like, I think we've gotten so far off of, like, now we're just, everything's got a colorway. Like, it was just like, yo, Rob's first special.
00:14:32
Speaker
When you wear it, when you, like, if you if you were like, going make a shoe, Rob's first special colorway. And I would look at you dumb. Because my first special, I got on some Off-White 5. I mean, I meant the... No, no, no, no, no. But, like, shattered backboards are stupid to me. Because...
00:14:49
Speaker
He had on Chicago Ones when he broke that backboard. Right. But it's based off of the the uniform. Right. But he wasn't matching the uniform. No, yeah. We didn't need that shoe. We never need that shoe. He only smashed one backboard. Why we got three shattered backboard shoes?
00:15:05
Speaker
they go co and I'll make this a clip. They gonna come for you, bro. They can come for me. Y'all didn't even get them the second time. that' That was some
Overuse of Themes in Sneaker Releases
00:15:14
Speaker
hype. That was some hype because that we were deprived of good leather. And the first time they got some good leather, yeah they put it on that orange shoe. Nobody wanted that orange shoe.
00:15:24
Speaker
They wanted a quality shoe. Now it's some other light shoes with good leather. Guess what? Nobody wants some shattered backboards. Nah, yeah. i was never a big fan I wasn't a big fan of that shoe. Nobody saw that game. It was in Italy. That's some found footage. and then And then when they did the the last release, they dropped the they did like a whole reenactment thing with like the puppets. You saw that?
00:15:47
Speaker
Nah. You got to watch it. I don't be watching puppets duck basketballs. Nah. Nah. now yeah Not your favorite pastime? Nah, don't do that. I don't watch puppets. I don't be doing no puppets, man. i actually I just think it's just like, when it comes to Jordan specifically, I think they stretched it to the, like, the the crack, they made the cocaine, the cocaine has been stretched, bro. It's done. They made a Jordan 1, for the outfit he wore on Letterman. know. that's the That's the one that pisses me off the most. I'm like, bro, what is this? Why would why do we have this? They made a Jordan 6 for the outfit he wore on SNL. Right. He didn't even wear Jordans on SNL. He had on some dress shoes. Yeah, he did. He did. They made a they made a Jordan. I don't know if it's a one, but or it might have been, for the promo picture he took when he was going to UNC. And it's like him in a room, and he has like the umbrella.
00:16:44
Speaker
They made a Jordan off of that. And he wearing Adidas. Yeah. Nike loves celebrating when their athletes wear Adidas. That picture of Kobe with the cast. Yeah.
00:16:54
Speaker
And he... ah Yeah, he's practicing free throws. Practicing free throws with the pajama pants under the shorts or whatever. He's got on some KB83s, bro.
00:17:08
Speaker
Did they blur out the... They they cropped it. So you can't see his feet. There was a big billboard in LA of Kobe yeah shooting a free throw. And I'm like, yo, this is... What are y'all doing?
00:17:23
Speaker
If I was Adidas, I would have been like, let's make a crazy three. And put it out. You know what I'm saying? Well, I guess they can't call it because the... No, the Crazy 8s. Crazy is what they call it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because the Crazy 8 is the KB-8. Right. Yeah. Only because it had the KB-8 on the top, like on the middle.
00:17:45
Speaker
But then when they did the KB2, they called it the Crazy 8-2. Right. yeah And then they when they did, they turned the toasters into the Crazy Infinities with the because that's Kobe's. But no, but the Kobe 1 is the Crazy 1. Right. Kobe 2 is the Crazy 2. Kobe 3 never came out. Right.
00:18:05
Speaker
I mean, you got it. You know more than that. They had two different lines. That's how you know they messed up. Because they they Kobe had a signature shoe. yeah You can't say the KB8 with the 8 in the hologram and all that is not his shoe. When you think about Kobe Adidas, you think about that shoe. ah And then they did a sequel to that.
00:18:30
Speaker
And then they did a sequel to that. the The second sequel, I don't blame them for that lockout season. Right, yeah. So there was a lot of commercials, but it wasn't, you know, half season, and then they lose to the Spurs. They don't go. So I get that.
00:18:44
Speaker
Then the next year, ah the first championship, Yeah. He got on the ah the eights, I think. No, the threes. Oh, he got on the threes. KB threes. Then they're like, we relaunching the Kobe brand. yeah He drive motorcycles now.
00:19:01
Speaker
Remember? Yeah. They had the motorcycle joint and they had it and they had of the half road on the silhouette. Yeah. was You know, because Michael Jordan Cologne was like the straight on. So they're like, we going change the game we got Kobe looking to the side look at that iconic forehead you know what I'm saying you know that's Kobe bro big old picture Kobe on the box I want them shoes so bad want them Kobe tools so bad and then
Kobe Bryant's Sneaker Journey
00:19:28
Speaker
uh I remember like they were in the source the the source had a 10th anniversary was it 10th anniversary
00:19:38
Speaker
10th anniversary issue. It was like then and now. And they showed the ah Patrick Ewing Adidas attitudes. And then they showed the Kobe twos. And I like was like, mom, I want these for Christmas.
00:19:52
Speaker
And the head ah after school at my school was like, man, those are ugly. And then he was like, man, you gonna get cooked if you wear those here. And it was like, yo, why would you do that? Yo, for real. Yeah. Like, i was i was a Kobe fan. And now I got them.
00:20:11
Speaker
And they are horrible. They are horrible. they are horrible they're put they're not even So he was right? It's not even about that. They creased in the box. how like Like you take the tissue paper out, boom, crease. Like there's no way to put them on human feet without it bending. Now after you used to it bending, you get a couple bends in, then it's like, okay,
00:20:39
Speaker
it's It's, you know, but it's like, I i i totally understand why Kobe went to Nike. Oh, my God. Them things. Like, I'm thinking these going to the most comfortable shoes ever. Yeah. Because they not foot shape. So all that non foot shape is cushion. And it's like, no.
00:20:56
Speaker
They like still, they feel like tight on the feet. Yeah. And it's like, bruh. How does that even make sense? I get why you, I get why you, like, have the sneaker free agency after this. Yeah. What do you, what do you, speaking of which, what do you think is, what do you think is, like, the biggest free, like, if you compared Kobe's sneaker free agency and Steph Curry's current sneaker free agency, like,
00:21:22
Speaker
there's There's no comparison. There's no comparison because when Kobe was doing it, there wasn't even the same amount of attention to sneakers, sneaker blogs and stuff. yeah like if you were if For you to be into that, you'd have to go to Yahoo Sports and Getty Images and you know maybe somebody on Nike Talk or GeoCities or something putting stuff together. I remember looking in a Jet magazine and seeing the eights and I was like, oh, this is crazy. You know what I'm saying? Like like just different articles or whatever about about Kobe, um you know, when he wore the Iversons, when he, you know, like like to me, he was so ahead of the curve with that. Cause this is before PJ Tucker. It's before Nice Kicks. He's doing the sneaker watch, you know, and honestly he was just doing it. You know, he was very intentional.
00:22:18
Speaker
and you know, show love to Iverson. You know, it's wild. if If it was today, there'd be a conversation about why didn't you wear any shacks?
00:22:30
Speaker
You know what I'm saying? yeah If it was today, like that would be a whole thing. Like, whoa, so you wore Iverson, you wore Jordans against Jordan, you were but you didn't wear your teammate shoes. Like that would have been a whole thing. You know saying? Why nobody calling that Alfred Curry right now?
00:22:48
Speaker
He's worn Jimmy Butler's. He's worn Jimmy Butler's. trying to think who else is on yeah on his squad that got a shoe. I mean... I can't think of... I can't think of anybody else on there. there's some There might be some Draymond P.E.' 's out there somewhere. Where?
00:23:05
Speaker
I know Draymond wore some, like, when they did the 10, he wore the Hyper Dunks during the finals, but I can't remember if that's the finals they lost.
00:23:17
Speaker
But... um um That might have been a KD year though. That might have been one the ones they won. Has Steph won a KD yet? I don't know. I don't think so.
00:23:30
Speaker
know I don't know. Yeah, I don't know if he's winning KD. I really like what Steph's doing. Yeah? I think, i think ah because I think Kobe had the attention and had the,
Steph Curry's Sneaker Influence
00:23:42
Speaker
like, you know what saying? He was like, you know, like, we were paying attention to his line, and and I think a lot of people were critical of his line because it's like, you're supposed to be the guy. Right, yeah. You know what saying? Somebody else could probably get this shoe off because it's a little avant-garde.
00:23:56
Speaker
But you you the guy. You in McDonald's commercials. You in Sprite commercials. You're supposed to have the shoe that people want to rock outside of the court. yeah Curry, and you know what's really weird is Curry's has some some momentum and then that freaking Chef Curry shoe and the internet took on a life of its own, and it's weird that they never recovered from that, but some of that is is under armor, just like not really caring about
00:24:27
Speaker
how things look outside of the court. Not caring about how jeans lay on the shoes. Not caring what the top of the tongue look like. yeah You know what I'm saying? like Like certain stuff that matters when you rocking a shoe with shorts, when you rocking a shoe with jeans, when you rocking a shoe with pants or whatever.
00:24:46
Speaker
oh but But that being said, I think I was surprised with all the intentionality You know, I think the ah it's a long season. They do tunnel walks now. You know, there's not a lot of room to repeat. And so, you know, him wearing the foams in Orlando, him wearing the shacks in Orlando was really cool. Him wearing ah ah the Candace Parker shoes, showing love to the women's basketball. You know what I'm saying? um Like, no, he's done a lot of cool stuff. Going back to Davidson, putting on the Carmines. You know what I'm saying? Wearing New Balance. Like, I never thought that Led Zeppelin
00:25:31
Speaker
Steph could be ahead and he might be a ahead. He might not be ahead. We don't, we don't really know. no mean he's We never, there's never been a tour of his sneaker closet. Right. Well, you you know, we do know that that there was rumors that he was disrespected by Nike. I mean, yeah, because I was going to say, is that the biggest fumble? But like, did they, because like, obviously the rumors or whatever it was said that they were showing him a deck and Of him as like him on in the t and on team Nike. Yeah. And then when the page that was supposed to say, you know, hey, this is Steph Curry in Nike was like somebody else.
00:26:10
Speaker
Yeah. I feel like they tried to debunk that recently, but I don't know you know if the debunk is really like a fake out. You know what I'm saying? Because it took a long time to debunk. It wasn't like they debunked it when the rumor happened. I thought they literally fired somebody off of that. I thought they misspoke.
00:26:32
Speaker
I thought they were pronouncing his name wrong. you Oh, I thought it no, it's a slide. Like they were calling Steven or something. Stevie, you gotta go. You gotta go. Steven? Who is Steven?
00:26:47
Speaker
They were like, ah instead of just, they started being like, yo, Del Curry. They started going, they was like, no, no, no, it's his son. It's his son. oh I think it's funny that he had the butt naked zone. Yeah. I think that was funny. Mm-hmm. You know, I wonder, I do wonder if that was intentional. Had to be.
00:27:06
Speaker
i don't know. Had to be. I don't know. You trying to get some Timbs, you in Utah, you like, let me go by shoot carnival, spin a wheel spin the wheel.
00:27:17
Speaker
I had the butt naked. is i Me and my sister had the butt naked. Buy one, get one half off. course, yeah. We didn't even know. Well, I mean, we knew that there was no leather on the top. Yeah. But we didn't know you could tell from the bottom. Right, yeah. It's Les Ridges on the bottom. And then when we wore them to school, yeah my sister got them off. Nobody came for her. Of course not. But people would be reaching.
00:27:42
Speaker
People would be like, yeah, people... Yeah, people used to check. People used to check your Timbs, bro. And back then, you know, you a kid, you throw your jeans in the dryer, now they're a little shorter. Yeah, yeah. Everybody's seeing that top. That's my leather.
00:28:00
Speaker
That's my leather, man. We used to wash our jeans. It was crazy back then. the It's funny because like, i so when I had Deontay and Big Ice Cup Cat on, all the comments were like, damn, they're really wearing butt nakeds.
Rumors and Sneaker Quality Concerns
00:28:18
Speaker
And i'm like I'm like, I'm looking at it. I'm like, i don't i I don't think so. And I'm looking, I'm looking, and I'm like, oh like we were I was talking to to bit to Big Cat, and I'm like, yo, people keep saying that y'all wearing butt-nakeds on the episode, but I never paid attention to it when y'all pulled up.
00:28:37
Speaker
And then all recently, ah everybody started comparing and showing like which is what, which is what. yeah I went to a Timberland event. And they gave me a pair of Timbs. I'm so scared to open that box to be like, do I have butt naked? Did they give me butt naked? Nah, Timberlake not gonna give you no butt naked, is bro.
00:28:54
Speaker
Are you crazy? Yo, I hope. gotta check. Are you crazy? I gotta check. No. I gotta check. I gotta see it. I remember, cause sometimes I do freelance stuff when I lived out here, doing events for Timbaland and thinking like, man, maybe they'll give us a pair, you know? But like, yeah, it never happened, but yeah, nah. You gotta to start asking, bro. They Yeah, premium leather on the top of that Timbo.
00:29:20
Speaker
Look, that if you saw the Averex joint, did you see the Averex? Yeah. That joint. In person, it is fire. It's fire online. And, like, i said that I send stuff like that to real New Yorkers yeah that I know will be like, oh, that's it or not. You know, like like when Louis made the Timbs, I was like, what y'all think about this? Yeah. I got the mischief joints. didn't get that text. Huh? I didn't get that text.
00:29:48
Speaker
you don't you You didn't even call out people had butt naked on your pod. You didn't even call them out. I didn't know, I gotta check. I gotta double check. No, that and see, that's why, if you gotta double check, why I'm checking with you?
00:30:04
Speaker
I'm still a New Yorker. Yeah, but clearly you're not you're not a Tim-wearing New Yorker. yeah. I mean, this is very true. the the most i My favorite Tim are probably Beef and Brock's. What's the most New York shoe you think you like? Like like GR stuff. like not no like Not like what you got on, but like like like what's what's a New York staple that you think you rock with the most? I would say...
00:30:29
Speaker
You remember the NYC mids, the air Air Force ones? Yeah. I'd probably... that that' To me, in the Knicks colorway... Classics. Like New York classics. Like the white with the orange stitching? No, think it's the black. I think it's the black.
00:30:45
Speaker
It's a black mid. Came out in like the 90s. Yeah. Black mid with a blue check and I think an orange bottom. think that's what it was. I got it. It's a black shirt. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Those are hard. Yeah. I got to find it. If I find a picture, I find a picture. But like, i think that like that's... This is because in the 90s, mids were were it until...
00:31:08
Speaker
Clark Kent said no, mids is trash. But a black mid. They never stopped making mids. No, they never did. They never stopped. You can still get a pair. You can go to the show right now and get a pair mids. Yeah, yeah, yeah. like Like, it's so weird because it's so funny because, ah you know, ah Sneak This, yeah we used to do jokes about mids, but we were talking about Jordan 1 mids. Yeah, yeah.
00:31:34
Speaker
And, you know, it's so funny because whenever you do something like that, there's always like some white people around there like, I like the way mids look.
00:31:47
Speaker
I don't see what the problem is with mids. Mids are affordable. It's just like, yeah, that's not what it's about. No, it's not, man. that that that tongue That tongue just kills me. First of the jump man on the tongue. The jump man on the tongue is just a deal breaker. It's weird that like they never resolve that. I get it. You don't want to put a Nike Air on everything. right yeah But y'all didn'all never like hey, let's let's try something else. right yeah You know what I'm saying? let's do so like let let's make a new logo that we put on tongues or something. Like, yeah. But then you're like, nah, you know what? We're going to put a patch. I mean, we're going to put a tongue patch that is basically a quarter of the tongue. So y'all know, y'all know when you when you tongue fuck the sneakers,
00:32:41
Speaker
with the jeans, right that you see the jump man. But see, to me, to me that is the biggest issue with the men. Is that this thing says Jordans because these Jordans are for are for people who need the Jordans to say yeah these are Jordans. Yeah, yeah. These Jordans are people for people who need the Jordans to look like, when you look at them to be like, no, those are Jordans. They have the jump man yeah on the tongue. You know what saying? I know what you're saying because now you're making me think of it like, way because when I was younger, anything that had a swoosh on it, as long as it had a swoosh, I'm in. So if you think about that, they use that same logic to push the mid-agenda.
00:33:28
Speaker
But it's it's it's counterproductive. First of all, from a nerd perspective, it's like Jumpman comes out in 88. The shoe is from 85. know I'm saying? So now why we we're we're in we're in no man's land. Now we out here, we done messed the timeline up. You know what saying? crossing streets. Yeah, we crossing streets. You put a jump man on a Jordan 1, the cymbal one, you know what I'm saying? And it still got a swoosh on it, but you're like, what?
00:33:58
Speaker
Right. Yeah. Because they tried to do it without the swoosh. That was a nasty time when they had the Jordan 1s with the jump man on the side. yeah With the metallic jump man the side. Yeah, the metallic jump man on the side. Oh, man. If that would have worked, if those would have sold out,
00:34:15
Speaker
We wouldn't have all the Jordan 1s. Think about it. Think about how the 10 would be if the off-white Jordan 1 had a jump man and he like stapled to the side. just like hanging off. Because some idiots in 2001 bought the freaking...
00:34:31
Speaker
but they're freaking you Jordan Woods with the jump man on the side. Like, like if those were the, if those were the, if those were the pigeon dunk crazy, that's the world we would live in right now, dog. Yo, there is definitely an alternate timeline. Yeah. Where we're talking about this, we're talking about this, you would be like, yo, imagine if there was swoosh. Finally, they fixed it.
00:34:51
Speaker
They finally fixed the Jordan Woods, dog. 2002. remember like it was yesterday. go The Tiana Taylor's got all kind of spikes coming out of Jumpman on the side, bro. Come on, man.
00:35:05
Speaker
Travis Scott got upside down Jumpmans. Man, Jumpman on the headstand. Dog. Yeah.
00:35:15
Speaker
I can't believe it. I can't. Yo, if that happened, bro. What they thinking? What they thinking? And then it's like, if you think about it, like even it's like, where it's like, the they started selling the merch and then the merch is oversized Jordan logos.
00:35:30
Speaker
Yeah. Just nonstop. I mean, they do sell that. Yes. yeah But no, I'm talking about like people being like, you got that shit on. I see you with the logos. Dog. We wore our clothes so baggy at the time. It was just not the time to bring back the Jordan
Corporate Agendas vs. True Sneaker Enthusiasts
00:35:48
Speaker
1. But it's like, that that's the thing they never thought about.
00:35:52
Speaker
That's the thing, I think we always knew. i think part of the struggle with being like us like someone in the sneakers and knowing that this brand is not our space right is that we we are so used to them doing things that disregard what we care about. Right. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. And, and I think, I think the biggest ah issue I have now with like some of the, the people who work in sneakers as far as like coverage and, and, you know, talk about sneakers and stuff is they are reinforcing
00:36:30
Speaker
some of these corporate things right yeah that don't care about what we care about. right You know what I'm saying? for sure yeah And it's like, dang, like, like you know, there's nobody there's nobody who talks about sneakers, who does anything with sneakers, who's not in bed with the companies. You know what I'm saying? yeah And so there's nobody who's just gonna like, anybody who's keeping it a beam, they and they in the outskirts. yeah for sure You know what I'm saying? Yeah.
00:36:59
Speaker
like That's why I skirt a lot of that shit. You gonna cut this out. already know. You gonna cut this out. I don't know. Everything stays in. is it But what you're saying is actually right because I was thinking about like a lot of your comments when I look. You always respond to AT-ATF stuff or nice kids. Yeah, because I remember when they was on Facebook yeah and they was, you know what saying? They Atlanta guys and stuff. you know Sometimes they hit me with some corny stuff. Yeah. Yeah, they'd be like, oh yeah i mean her you're a comedian but I didn't think that was funny alright dude I'm gonna delete the comment I don't even want you know what I'm saying you the page go do that from your personal account
00:37:42
Speaker
I just think it's just like, I mean, what what you're saying is like press rollouts, right? yeah So like if we're, if they're, kind of if like pages are, pages in general, like, you know, Nice Kicks or Sneaker News and all that stuff are just pushing that stuff out. We're missing the the part that I always loved back in
Storytelling in Sneaker Marketing
00:38:01
Speaker
the day. Like when you would read like, you know, Slam, like Russ Bankston, write all this stuff about like, you know, the origin of the shoe and like, that's ah it's like ah it's like a history lesson or like, And also it talks about the functionality and stuff like that. But everything now is more based around the story, whatever the story is. And it's like- Yeah, some of these stories dumb as hell. Yeah. yeah
00:38:23
Speaker
You know? Yeah. Like, new balances don't need a story. They numbers. Yeah. They don't need a story. i mean, I don't think when it at least like a lot of these other brands and when they once they start like collaborating with people, yeah we get that person's story. Right. But like when we get the the thing is and then the current thing is and I don't know if like maybe you can see if like it's this is a problem if it's not a problem is that We're in this era where a lot of people are only buying things that are that are connected to somebody right of note.
00:38:59
Speaker
And then when it comes to like GRs and stuff like that, like when's the last time you seen somebody be like mad hyped for like a GR? That's not like, you know, like like ah like like back in the day where we would go to Foot Locker and be like, yo, that color came out. Like um we out. Like we we um we need this. I think.
00:39:14
Speaker
But i think. The last time that might have happened might have been some like manufactured, like they they switched the dials a little bit. You know what saying? Because I feel like last year, a lot of people was going for them Hirachi trainers, the like sport blue ones or whatever. Sport blue Hirachi trainer? it cool blue?
00:39:39
Speaker
It's supposed to be gray, but it's blue. It was supposed to be gray, but they made it like a light blue. and I got to see. I don't know. I don't know those. But they were like instantly gone. Yeah. And like people had to hunt for them.
00:39:52
Speaker
But I do think they made way less. Like they made all black pair and you can get those. Mm-hmm. but I think they made way less, cause they knew that people was like on them. But they are at GR. You know, they kinda connected to Bo Jackson, but also when Bo Jackson got hurt, they started advertising with Dion with them. So they just, which is really messed up. You know what I'm saying? That's really some 90s stuff right there. This is professor schooler, like he'd be making those videos, he's like, that's not a Barkley, that's a, and you'd be like, all right, bro. I love Professor Skula. That's the type of person we need in the sneaker game because I feel like Professor Skula is into what he's into.
00:40:39
Speaker
He will say it to anybody. He's not on Jordans like that. He's on a specific era of Nikes. You what I'm saying? He be on the football shoes heavy. yeah He be on the, ah ah you know, the 90s. He be in the catalogs. He be having- be digging. me Yeah. you Talking about like, you know, Nike Yeah, he be talking about stuff they ain't never retro. yeah They never thought about retro. He you know all the takedowns. be looking for the takedowns.
00:41:07
Speaker
And- Through him, I'm reminded of all the shoes that I thought I had that I didn't
Childhood Sneaker Discoveries
00:41:13
Speaker
have. Yeah, yeah. Because when I had a takedown, I did not know I had a takedown. Right, yeah. because You know what I'm saying? I had a pair of, I thought I had a pair more of more up-tempo's.
00:41:23
Speaker
But mine didn't have air in them. Oh. Because they were a takedown. Right, yeah. That I got from JCPenney. Uh-huh. And it wasn't until a kid at school was like, why your shoes say air but they don't have Yeah.
00:41:36
Speaker
Then I was like, wait a minute. so no Wait a minute. And then the kid had on the real more of tempos and his like big thick air bubble throughout. And I'm like, dang, I thought it was like, I thought Nike was really awesome. Like, no air is is is's called air, but it don't gotta a be air. You know what I'm saying?
00:41:58
Speaker
So yeah, same with the son of the gloves. I didn't know when not when me and my sister, we got son of the gloves yeah ah for Christmas or whatever. My whole basketball team got them or whatever.
00:42:10
Speaker
But, and it wasn't our team's shoe. We just happened to, you know what I'm saying? It just happened to come out around the time basketball season started. um i remember when those dropped, I wanted them so bad. but I didn't know that they were a takedown of the glove. You wanna know funny? So when I'm wearing them to school, there's all kinds of kids at school like, man, I been had those. Man, those old. I'm like, what you talking him about? These just came out. They just came out. But I didn't know I had on a takedown. Yeah, yeah.
00:42:38
Speaker
You know what's so funny? I thought, so I went and I remember being like, yo, I want the son of the glove, son the glove. They didn't have my size. But I made up this whole story to tell my mom.
00:42:49
Speaker
It was like, yo, there's this player named Gary Payton. He has a shoe. called a glove. You can switch it out, blah, blah, blah. But they have another one. It's called the son of the glove. This based on his son. yeah Yo, Gary Payton the third wasn't even around yet.
00:43:06
Speaker
You already put on. This is Gary Payton Juniors. This is Gary Payton Juniors. That's so funny. I was like trying to pitch it. Be like, yo, I need these. I need these.
00:43:17
Speaker
And so we go to the store and the footlogger dude, I'm like, you know, was already a size 13 at the time already. And I'm like, yo, can I get them? You was a size 13 then? Yeah, yeah, yeah. In like 98? Yeah.
00:43:30
Speaker
i didn't I think I went from like like kid size to like a 9 and then 13. And that was it. It was like the span of like a couple months. Jeez. I didn't... i didn't My foot stopped growing in college. Really? Yeah. That's crazy. So like the beginning of me collecting shoes, I'm on 11 and a half.
00:43:50
Speaker
So like all the shoes I had in like high school and early college, I'm 11 and a half. Not to like, i'm not I didn't start wearing 12s till like... ah
00:44:02
Speaker
My junior year. Yeah. That's crazy. Like living off campus. Were you still growing? Yeah. you So when was your growth spurt? Like junior year high school.
00:44:15
Speaker
And then you kept growing. but I kept growing. Yeah. That's crazy. Yeah. Because like I had my growth spurt. I think I want to say either it was middle school for sure.
00:44:28
Speaker
So middle school, I shot up to six feet and I just stopped growing after that. Dang. Yeah. Did you hoop? Yeah, that's what was going to say. so I just was always the center. So i can't I can't dribble for shit.
00:44:40
Speaker
um It sucks. But yeah, son of gloves. And then I was trying to cop him. I couldn't get him. And then I ended up with the hyperflights. Man, it must have been tough trying to get shoes out here.
00:44:52
Speaker
I lived next to a foot locker during the time. Cause in Atlanta, yeah it was only certain, shoot it was tough getting Jordans. I don't even remember seeing phones period. Down in Atlanta? Like in 97, I don't remember seeing them. Maybe they I just wasn't paying attention. That's the other thing.
00:45:13
Speaker
i don't know when I started just really being on on sneakers like that. Like, like i I was on it for me and for, like, you know what saying? But, like, now, like, I go back and, like, ah watch different stuff and see people's feet, and I'm like, oh, yeah, I wasn't checking for everybody's shoes.
Sneaker Influences in Media
00:45:30
Speaker
You know what I'm saying?
00:45:31
Speaker
Like, there was a video the other day of ah Usher on MTV, yeah and he's got ah some Tommy Hilfiger sneakers. And I was like, yeah, I was probably definitely checking. for that. Yeah. Then. Yeah. Yeah. But like I saw a picture of like DMX and some Agassiz the other day and I'm like, yeah, wouldn't even have noticed. No, for sure. yeah the Once you start, once you get the bug, it's like that's all you're looking for now. Like I was just at, ah no, when we was, last night i was sitting with Deontay and we were we were looking at everybody's feet because like that's the only thing I pay attention to a lot more and then you pulled up the Nardwars And I was like, yo, he got the Nardwars on. And I was like, that boy fresh.
00:46:16
Speaker
Man, no. i I mean, i love Nardwars. I really was hyped that they made an SB for him. You know what saying? And so, yeah, I had to get him. What's the deep cut you think he'll pull up on you?
00:46:28
Speaker
That you listen to what song and and and your mom played this song? While she was cleaning. I done did a NARWAR impression on stage. if he finds that, if somebody recorded it, he finds me like, yeah, doing a NARWAR, you know, baboon.
00:46:47
Speaker
Doodaloo doodaloo doodaloo doodaloo
00:46:56
Speaker
and you know i tweeted i was like did anybody remember sneak this and so i rewatched the whole thing okay from the jump i know if i've done that yeah i should do that on like twitch or yeah that would be fun yeah um it's do you think i cause like what i want i' i would love to if There's a part two. we can I want to be part of it. Whatever. can make a happen. Yeah. But do you think there's still space to mix comedy and sneakers currently?
00:47:26
Speaker
For sure. For sure. You don't think people take sneakers too seriously right now? I think they do. But I think, honestly, there's so much going on in sneakers that it would it would really take somebody that's like,
00:47:40
Speaker
I don't care if I piss off everybody, if they ban me from Portland, if I can't go, you know what saying? I can't go they go to I can't go to, you know mean? I can't go to ah ca wherever in you know Boston or whatever. Like, yeah, it would take that and it would take some people who are like fearless on on the on the other side of things and not worried about, you know, relationships and in and so some. some that to really go hard. like
00:48:12
Speaker
But like something happened the other, that like, okay, Skechers is suing the dude, um the TikTok dude, because they got a picture of him wearing Nike. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. The dude that does his hands like this. Yeah, yeah, KB Lame or whatever. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And i was like, this would have, like, if we was on every week, yeah that's the type of thing that is so simple. All you got to do is put some Nikes in a trash can, put on some Skechers, and do one of these. You know what I'm saying? You're good to do It's like, I mean, i don't know if you you ever watch. ah I feel for him. I do. i I am being funny because I do think that is funny. But also, you know, because of how things are messed up, he has been fleeing the country and everything. And you know what saying? Like, I don't know if he's.
00:49:10
Speaker
I think he left the United States or something. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, you know, ah he he might he might have bigger things going on. and there might there There might be more to this story, though, why he was wearing Nikes versus, you know, he didn't think grab his sketches. Yeah. It's like, man. They're not by the door. They're by the door. It's the passport. It's the. the keys. My dwelling beads.
00:49:34
Speaker
I got bottles. Oh, man. My shape-ups. My shape-ups, man. Yeah. I do think it's like where it... what i what i went not So what I was thinking of, ah what I was going to say, first of all, um because it's a it's a contract and he's supposed to be rocking it at all times. yeah They're looking for any way to get it. I mean, I hear Skechers making good money, but like...
00:49:59
Speaker
I still feel like part of that is like, if I can get out of any contract, you know? like So, Skechers giving out contracts so they can sue you and get the money back? That's sad.
00:50:12
Speaker
That's how they keep all the money, man. That's how they keep the money, man. They're like, oh, I see you. All right. Joel Embiid. We live around. like Like, OK, New York, you'll see brick and mortar sketches stores. And you'll see them every now and then try to make a shoe that looks like somebody else's shoe. Oh, 100%. Like when they try to make it easy with the stripes. Yes. It was like, yo, this is crazy.
00:50:37
Speaker
This feels illegal. i don't want to stand by this. I gotta walk faster, man. Get this away from me. Keep it moving. Keep it moving. Jeez. It is wild, though. I live by Skechers. And is wild how I've seen so That's our only New York thing. Other places, ain't no Skechers store. There's no Skechers store? I mean, maybe in a mall or something. But not just, like, stand alone. Like, all right, yeah, it's a Chipotle. And then right next to Chipotle is Skechers. Yeah. Yeah, that's only up here. There's no, like, yo, we gotta go hit up the Skechers outlet. Right.
00:51:12
Speaker
Because Skechers probably is outlet. it I mean, I think they got some expensive shoes. No way. All their shoes are definitely under $100. Remember when Kanye ran over the Skechers? Nah.
00:51:24
Speaker
Oh, it was like right when he was going on his anti-Semitic stuff. He got dropped from a dentist. And he went to the Skechers headquarters unannounced. And it was like, yo, the head of Skechers is Jewish. What's up with you? Ha, ha, ha.
00:51:39
Speaker
What's up with you? What you doing, bro? Buggy, bro. Yeah. Nah, but I think like I do with I don't know. I going to bring up Sneakernomics. You know, you do follow Sneakernomics? There's a dude from UK. Shout out. Shout out to homies. Shout out to Sneakernomics. Yeah, but he's he's something crazy. But he'd be doing like sketches basically. And he'll always have like a funny take where it's like, I think the last one that I saw was, it was like a sneaker head explaining a shoe to a non-sneaker head. And he's like, you know, these are, the person has them on. He's like, oh, you got on, you know, you got the diamond turse on, you know? And then they're like, I remember when they first came out and he's like, listen, I just went to the store and got them. don't know what you're talking about. Yeah, know, like, But that's dope. I think that, like, comedy and sneakers definitely,
Comedy in Sneaker Culture
00:52:30
Speaker
we need more of it. Everybody take it way too seriously. Yeah. No, I think there's definitely space for You know what saying? I would be down to work on another, you know, Or something that, you know, involves sneakers. Maybe not solely a sneaker thing because there's a lot that comes with that.
00:52:50
Speaker
um You know, there people are so mean to us. That's what wanted to know. What happened? Well, was like because we were on BRKings. Yeah. And so sports fans, they be on their Tylenol sometimes. And so anything that's not sports related, they'll comment, not a sport. This is not a sport.
00:53:09
Speaker
Not a sport. Not a sport. You know. And then a lot of it was like... And that's Tylenol AM or PM? Mm-hmm. You think that's Tylenol AM or PM? That's the Tylenol autism. maximum strength, bro. Yeah, yeah. Not a sport. I mean, like... And then also, we were working with people who, like...
00:53:34
Speaker
It's, you know, corporate America is is weird. It's all kind of social media people who just, they at work. yeah they not They don't care about how things, you know, they they just like, they might as well be AI.
00:53:50
Speaker
They'd be like, oh, well, you know, ah our data shows that people click on things that have this in it. So we're going to make this the caption. And so then it's just kind of like, all right.
00:54:02
Speaker
Like there was a, we, we made a like PJ sketch. Right. Yeah. Instead of like Mike. Right. Yeah. Our, our Michael Jordan's PJ Tucker, right? The sneaker guy.
00:54:13
Speaker
So they posted it and there was, and they put a picture of PJ Tucker and Bow Wow. And it was like, ah like PJ starring PJ Tucker and Bow Wow.
00:54:28
Speaker
as the caption, I'm like, that's just lying. That's old, like, that's old, like, uh, uh. That's old school YouTube stuff. You know what I'm saying? Like that's Soulja Boy, oh, this is a new Call of Duty. And then it's like, just got my report card, throw some Ds on there. You know what I'm saying? Like that's, that's that type of stuff. Like the sketch is solid. Like we worked on, you know what I'm saying? Like, we built a straight up parody of this movie yeah just like it out yeah and like yeah um we did a sketch that was um about to catch a predator right that was my yo that that shit if you repost that shit bro to catch a reseller bro oh my god that's we were supposed to have a bogus pair of chunky donkeys that didn't come in and so then yeah we ended up using my uh
00:55:23
Speaker
Fugazi, Yeezy 2s from back in the day. um But because To Catch a Predator is not a Turner property, yeah yeah then they were like, well, we we can't just call we can't just call it we can't call out that it's to catch a predator or whatever. It's like, it's a thing that people know. yeah It's a, you know what saying? It's like a trope. Like we, we you know, this it's in the zeitgeist. So then they put like the thumbnail was like true detective.
00:55:55
Speaker
And it's like, cause this is on HBO and HBO and people watch True Detective and now it's all kind of people in the comments like, what this guy do with True Detective? Hey man, what is, man, this sus, man. What this guy do with True Detective? You what I'm saying? Yeah. I would've been sick, man. Like there was a time where I kept trying to be like, yo, BR, I was tweeting them every day. Yo, BR, let me get, BR kicks, let me get that handle. Like, let me let me run the let me run the social media. And I was doing it, like, every day for, like, three months.
00:56:24
Speaker
Yeah. Then, man, they didn't take me seriously. Now, you know you don't work too many jobs to know that's not how you get a job. don't. You work too many jobs to know that's not how you get a job. Look, man, I was... i was I was trying my best, all right?
00:56:38
Speaker
You know? That's all I can I don't think you were. don't think you were. I think you got a LinkedIn. I do. Yeah. You think the lane is to go into LinkedIn, hit up the BR person, be like, yo, let me get your job?
00:56:53
Speaker
You asking the person for their job while they doing their job? Because think of who's seeing it. You hitting up BRKicks and be like, let me run your page. The person who's seeing it is the person you try to replace. That's goofy.
00:57:11
Speaker
That's goofy. That's me trying my best, man. That's not. Yes, it is. That's not. i'm do i'm doing I did what I did, all right? Imagine if the comments on this podcast was like, hey, let me host my first Kicks. I mean, that's happened before.
00:57:28
Speaker
This happened before. yeah yeah There's that. I've gotten like a comment where it's like, you should have me on. And I'll be like, two. Whenever people do that to me, they end up acting like I begged them to do the pod. Really? It really grinds my gears. Whenever somebody begs me to do the pod, then they come out like, what is this thing you even brought me to? it's like, man, what are you talking about? wanted to do it. you You asked me to do it. Oh, my God.
00:57:57
Speaker
Man, shout out the podcast. Shout out in Inconsistent Podcast. Shout out Inconsistent Podcast, Spide It Out with Milda and Rob, In Season with Rob Hayes and Jamel Johnson. This man, a podcast machine. I'm tired.
00:58:12
Speaker
I'm tired. I'm trying to quit. I'm trying to quit. I need a patch. You need a patch? Yeah, I need a podcast patch. where My goal for this year is to get down to... Two podcasts. what what we gotta go Which one is the one that got to go?
00:58:26
Speaker
We figuring out right now. don't know. In season. I don't want to get rid of it. In season some of the most fun I have. In season sometimes is the highlight of my week. Yeah. Yeah. So inconsistent.
00:58:40
Speaker
Inconsistent. I can't get rid of just because it's it's constant. It's like it's, you know, it's a staple. Uh-huh. And then you can't get rid of you and Mandel. Nah. Because, especially it's on the 95 South. Yeah, 85 South. 85 South. I'm trying to New York everything. 95 South. Yo, York.
00:59:00
Speaker
I did the, oh, man. ah ri ah Who is it? Who is it? Who's the DJ? Kid Capri. Kid Capri, yeah. I was working on this thing with Kid Capri, and he was supposed to say 75 South or 85 South, and he kept saying 95 South. Yeah. It was like he's just that New York where it's just like he can't. There's no other...
00:59:27
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highways, it's like no, like like we don't have 95 goes around Atlanta, don't go through Atlanta at all. Yeah.
00:59:38
Speaker
But you take 95 to get to 85, right? Yeah, you yeah. But that that doesn't happen in Atlanta, that happens in the Carolinas. And then, yeah. I don't drive, so. And then 75 goes, you know, yeah the other way towards Midwest. So you can't get rid of any podcast you're on. We just went went through all three.
01:00:00
Speaker
No, I can't. That's it, man. its said One day, one day. i Actually, we'll see. ah Inconsistent might might switch to something. It might become something else. Yeah. Yeah.
01:00:12
Speaker
Which it it has the space to do that. Of course. So it might it might become something else. but i think that like i love i love you I love all the work you do. Big fan. Thank you. big fan big fan If you got Amazon, make sure you watch a Good Sports with Kevin Hart and Keenan Thompson. I'm writing on that right now.
01:00:30
Speaker
yeah If you got BET Plus, watch Lil' Kev. If you got Hulu, watch Sherman Showcase. Yes, please. Watch Sherman Showcase. You don't got to have nothing to watch Sneak This. It's all YouTube. Nah, yeah. You got to. Look, run back Sneak This um if you can. so It does bring back memories of during COVID times. Yeah. Because you're wearing a mask and stuff. and Oh, yeah. forgot about that.
01:00:58
Speaker
Yeah, no we shot Akron the minute the vaccine came out. yeah We got vaccinated and we got like, he was outside. I'm playing with outside. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, yeah. Let everybody know where to find you.
01:01:12
Speaker
At Rob Hayes on most things. R-O-B-H-A-Z-E in seven letters. I believe in you. I think you could do it. ah Yeah. Instagram, Twitter, ah X. TikTok. Threads, TikTok. You want everything. Yeah. Black Planet. Mastodon, Spill. Yeah. Oh, that's the new thing. Spill, right? Spill.
01:01:35
Speaker
I don't know what's going on over there. They saying, my boy JLogic hit me and was like, everybody's my, all the black creators are migrating to spill. And I was like, all right. I'm good. I was begging for a pet for like a, ah you know, it's like inviting only. I was begging for an invite and then I got over there. But I couldn't,
01:01:53
Speaker
It's this old thing. So I couldn't really figure out how to do what I do other places. oh Yeah. couldn't. Start from Ground Zero sucks, bro. Yeah. Yeah. sucks.
01:02:05
Speaker
ah Yeah. Appreciate you pulling up. um You know where to find me. Who is Hassan on social media? is Follow the podcast My First Kicks pod. Hit up that Patreon. Patreon.com slash My First Kicks. Don't forget to like, subscribe, leave a comment if you fuck with anything that we said throughout this whole entire episode go back rewatch this and if you haven't yet leave a comment goes a long way i'm gonna pass it to myself to do the outro peace hey if i offended you because you like them them jordan ones with the jump man on the side i'd like to apologize i'm
01:02:39
Speaker
I hope you enjoyed this week's episode with Rob Hayes. You know, me and Rob, this is his third appearance. I think he's the only guest to appear on the podcast three times.
01:02:50
Speaker
um But me and Rob go back a long, long time. So again, to sit down and talk to him in person about kicks and just like crack jokes and stuff like that.
01:03:01
Speaker
It is so fun. I mean, if you haven't checked out any of Rob's podcast, we talked about Inconsistent with Rob Hayes. We talked about ah Finding Out with him and former guest Mandel.
01:03:15
Speaker
And then he also has the basketball podcast with Jamel Johnson. That is is not follow through. What was the name of it? We said it in the episode. Go back and hopefully you listen. I'll have it in the description of the podcast. But Me and Rob, we go back a long ways. um I just find out, like, I just find out. I just find it's super fun to kind of have some former guests go on and get to like chop it up with them. I know that, you know, people love the the guest concept of it where I bring people on, I ask them what's that first case, but
01:03:56
Speaker
I do think the best episodes that I have, especially for me personally, is when the guests come back and they want to come back and jump on. So we had two back-to-back with Coda and now Rob. We're have a couple more definitely this future it definitely in the future. um This podcast has helped me tremendously. It helped me...
Reconnecting with the Past
01:04:18
Speaker
like just get to meet new people, get to revisit ah some people that I've like met along the way in my career and and also within doing the podcast. Or i think a lot of it like you'll see a lot of especially this year, I believe you'll see a lot of people from like my time at Comedy Central and like I'll get them to come back in or on. to the podcast and we get to talk about that.
01:04:47
Speaker
Um, but, uh, it's really dope to just be able to have people I've had you know, longstanding relationships with like, and, and show them to this audience that I'm starting to grow. And it's just really, really
The Podcast's True Purpose
01:05:02
Speaker
dope. And, you know, um, I just think that like podcasts should just be fun. Like I don't,
01:05:09
Speaker
personally call myself a journalist or i don't have journalistic integrity. You know, I'm just kind of just here to shoot the shit and just like have conversations and hear stories and um not really necessarily like break news or, or have like, you know, ah like be a source of like super informative stuff. Like,
01:05:37
Speaker
I think that, when especially when it comes to like culture or sneakers, the best part of it was always like having the conversations with people that have been there and have seen these things and then hearing what that like introduced into their lives and then brought that to where they are now. Because, you know, if you look at like Scrams' episode, like he was there during the inception of a lot of this stuff and and how he's bringing that to influence the kids, right?
01:06:11
Speaker
I just think that like culture... And sneakers are just super fun, but a lot of people kind of make it their identity or they just want to be known as like that.
01:06:24
Speaker
That's the thing. Like just sneakers, nothing else. And that may be, that could be you who are watching this right now. And that's cool too. But I also think that it's just like,
01:06:36
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there's so much ah to us. There's so many layers
Fun with Passions and Hobbies
01:06:40
Speaker
around us. Like I know that our passions, our hobbies are something that takes us out of the everyday and we kind of like pour ourselves into it. And as as great as that can be in times of need, we also kind of have to take that step back and inform ourselves of just like we should be having fun with this like that's that's the journalistic integrity of me where i'm just like we need to document how much fun this was because a lot of people take it extremely seriously a lot of people kind of like live and breathe this stuff and that is not that is not nothing wrong with that absolutely nothing wrong with that
01:07:24
Speaker
I just think that's like, first comes fun and then comes everything else. Like we should be looking at people, inviting people into our passion and our hobbies and kind of just propelling that beautifulness that we found that brought us in into them.
01:07:46
Speaker
And that's what this podcast has always been about. And i love, always joking with Rob and making those they a weird making weird scenarios up like ah the jump man on the side going crazy. ah Or like, I just think i just think comedy and sneakers are such a lost thing now.
01:08:14
Speaker
Outside Sneakernomics. Shout out Sneakernomics. Everybody takes it so seriously. So this, I hope this, I hope you get everybody that's watching this and has got to this point. And I really appreciate you checking out the outros. Not many people tap in all way to the end. um But I appreciate you if you got to the end here.
01:08:34
Speaker
i I'm just wishing that we bring a lot of that fun back. I think people are very scared of like losing chances of getting free sneakers or losing chances to brands. Like,
01:08:47
Speaker
losing chances to interact with brands but it's like a lot of people just come from this for having fun and if you're not specifically calling something out and and kind of just like or or because specifically like critiquing things where you're like i could do this better than you i think everybody has a chance to kind of just have fun with this like If you're into content, you're into making content, you're content creator, if you've seen me talk about being a content creator, it's many to me it's ah it's a multifaceted person that's doing everything in order to get ah their content out, right?
01:09:28
Speaker
But ah to me, like, you should be able to maneuver in a not-so-serious space so that when it comes time to be serious, you show that you are able to to do both and that this is fun for you. Because if you're just treating it like a job and you're just constantly hounding this down, down, down, you're like, this gotta be perfect, this, that, of like, you'll just never...
01:09:57
Speaker
You'll never get out of seeing that you turned your hobby into a job.
Using Patreon for Podcast Support
01:10:05
Speaker
And I don't find that fun. so I appreciate y'all for tapping in and if you are a long time listener or a first time listener, please check out the Patreon, patreon.com slash myfirstkicks. only have one tier, it's just $5. $5 for now until I start finding ways to make more time.
01:10:31
Speaker
just to kind of like help me out. um I need to like, I want to add more to the podcast. I want to bring out this newsletter, trying to make it like bi-weekly. um i was trying to make it like weekly with the, joe I'll drop it with the episodes, but i haven't had much time. um So trying to build that morale, do another extra episode per month, trying to get one, an extra one locked it in, especially for that. I did tease that I might be cutting off some of the episodes at a certain point, and in order to watch the full episode, you'd have to watch it on Patreon. That might be a possibility.
01:11:09
Speaker
I'm still thinking about it, like I said last week. I'm thinking about it. I'm heavily thinking about it because i would like to point people to Patreon so I can kind of like not always take a hit per month, you know?
01:11:24
Speaker
ah to Trying to get people in the studio and stuff like that I'm trying to build that out more I'm trying to push people to the Patreon Please sign up, patreon.com slash myfirstkicks But of course, if you sign up $5 tier, you get a shout out So shout out Samia, shout out Ross Adams Shout out Adam Neustadter Shout out Derek lipin Lipkin Shout out Derek Hawkins Shout out Adam Butler Shout out JesseJesseG Shout out Plox And that's it right now.
01:11:55
Speaker
ah I lost a subscriber. Please, I need a subscriber. I need i need a patron. So please pull up.
Engaging with the Community: T-Shirt Sales
01:12:01
Speaker
um And of course, if you want to cop a t-shirt, I have t-shirts for sale in in the story. Or just message me or shoot me an email. Info at myfirstcakes.com They're coming directly from me. I have a box. A box in my house.
01:12:18
Speaker
Here. Right now. With shirts. And I need to get rid of them. um please hit me up. So I'll give you a price and shipping, all that stuff, or we can link up and I'll sell you the shirt to you right here. If you're in New York city, or if I go to an event and you tell me ahead of time, so hit me up.
01:12:38
Speaker
And of course, if you want to check out more of the podcast, check out these two episodes here. And if you want to subscribe the podcast, hit that button. And of course, you know, we say each week, wear your kicks. Peace.