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Ya'll Wasn't Outside! with The Cool Kids
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This week I am joined by Chuck Inglish & Michael Rocks, as we talk about their impact in the game. Copping kicks in Detroit and Chicago, how sneakers changed over time. Why they should be called Mike's and not Jordans. How their style has evolved and what being outside really means now. Plus a ton more!
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Transcript
Introduction to First Sneaker Purchase
00:00:00
Speaker
My first joints that I bought on my own, like hard earned work money was the black and red 11s when they first retro in 01.
00:00:12
Speaker
But they're not my favorites though. No. I mean, i'm I'm not a big 11s person. so I mean, stand on that side. I mean, that's the side I stand There's a lot of numbers out there. No, I'm going to tell you why, bro. I'm a big 11 supporter, but they've been tweaking, man. Somebody over there, y'all need to call me, dog. There's no Jordan wears over there. I was in the store. Why would you low top the Spizzacks, nigga? Yeah, that was wild. Y'all not sold one of them bitches. You might as well chop it up.
00:00:39
Speaker
You know I'm saying? Y'all be putting extra night smooshes and Jordans on shit. Who the fuck is over there? We got to speak on something, bro. You don't got real Jordan wearers. And we don't even care about Jordan. You got niggas that's calling them J's, bro. They call Mike's.
00:00:55
Speaker
They call Mike's. You know what was the the fracturing point in the 11s when they became toxic? It was when niggas started dressing up with him at prom. Yeah, that shit was fun. That's when it became toxic for the man. They not Concord, bro.
00:01:09
Speaker
that's when it got you maybe that's that land not These new names, all that shit, We was, no.
Episode Introduction with The Cool Kids
00:01:19
Speaker
What's good everyone? Welcome back to My First Kicks. This episode 242 and this week we got nothing but legends sitting across from me. This week we got the cool kids. Yes sir. Salute, what up, what up man? I don't know if I was, I was talking to- You were supposed to do another little one two. I was gonna do it separately, you know, Chuck English, Sir Michael Rocks. That does it as well, but I am Sir Michael Rocks.
00:01:41
Speaker
That is Chuck English. We are the cool kids. Yes sir. Yo, absolute legends. Yo, y'all paved the way for a lot of people.
Influence of The Cool Kids on Fashion Trends
00:01:48
Speaker
you know sha Y'all changed game. you know um It was funny, i was I was on Twitter yesterday, somebody was just like, yo, if it wasn't for the cool kids, snapbacks wouldn't be back.
00:02:00
Speaker
know we let that We let history speak for itself, you know what I mean? knew yeah im nias just Check the textbooks, you know what mean? The books ain't gonna lie to you, so you'll you'll see what it is. But I always like to let history speak for itself, you know instead of me ah getting up there, oh, I did something, I did this, did that, because don't nobody want to hear that shit. I'll tell you that much. So, I'll let history speak itself. Yeah, we practice that science real well. You heard it from us.
00:02:24
Speaker
You know what's up. Yeah, for sure, man. Your mama know what's up. Yo, for sure.
Email Mishap Story
00:02:29
Speaker
oh Yo, shout out Sango for introducing me to you, Chuck. Like, you know, that's the bro. And, i mean, was telling you, i was like, yo, I tried to hit you up because you put out put out an email. And I was like, yo, this maybe that's a way I can get you on the podcast.
00:02:42
Speaker
But, like, You know what I'm saying? GoDaddy be playing. Be canceling subscriptions out of nowhere. yeah I ain't even see the, I'm not broke. you I did not see the notice.
00:02:55
Speaker
A couple more emails. Bouncing back for like a month. but I got it all fixed. Nah, yeah, it's all good. You know, y'all got the- this is the only way to do it. See me outside, catch me outside. How about that? As it says, says, y'all wasn't outside, yo. Come on back out though, yo. It's still fun out here, man.
Pop-up Event Recap
00:03:11
Speaker
Come back outside.
00:03:12
Speaker
Your Wi-Fi only gonna get worse and worse every year now. It's a conspiracy to make your Wi-Fi slow. You might as well come back outside, man. Ain't gonna be that good. Yeah, put some hair on your face. yeah ah Speaking of ah the pop-up y'all did at LAMS, I mean, you know not everybody was able to experience it, but we were there.
00:03:28
Speaker
You was outside. We was outside. The privilege of being outside. wasn't no tickets, wasn't no lists. We was outside at the table. hu You got a fade? No, you got you got got a tape up. ain't never cut my hair. It was a vibe at Lambs, man.
00:03:45
Speaker
We was just you know celebrating the album release. We had a bunch of cool merch up there. We had bundles with vinyl in it, T-shirts, all that good stuff, CD and CD player that we custom made.
00:03:56
Speaker
We just want to give tangible options back to the game too because you don't own that shit on digital DSPs, man. If it shut down,
Physical vs Digital Media Debate
00:04:07
Speaker
you ain't got it no more. It's gone. We got to start providing more options for shit you can touch and put on your shelf again, man, because that's the stuff that made us fans. And I think that there's still a lot of desire for that with people. So we want to keep incorporating that.
00:04:23
Speaker
Nah, yeah, the way, I mean, y'all did the vinyl, which is what I copped, and, like, I do see that, like, rush of people running back to vinyl again, so, like, yeah, y'all crushed that. and We always have vinyl.
00:04:34
Speaker
we did ah We did tapes with Alchemist, and we did tapes for the bake sale reissue. i don't like I don't like my phone that much.
00:04:45
Speaker
No? Nah, for what? Ain't shit on there, but...
00:04:50
Speaker
War and famine and motherfuckers that don't know how to keep ah sentences together. No, yeah. With being a big jobs. Yeah. So, you know, go outside. It's way cooler. Like, people don't hate each other outside.
00:05:03
Speaker
That's the part, yeah. Yeah, yeah. And it's like, like you said, you know, you buy VHS or something, you get to watch it, you get to see the previews from it. You know, they used to have director commentary.
00:05:15
Speaker
Like, streaming was a scam. Yeah. And they scammed you. I mean, do lose lot. It's like being in the streaming era, talking about going platinum. Like, how? ah yeah You made that up, bro. yeah How much is one record set? How many plays?
00:05:29
Speaker
$1,500. Why? why Why? How? How? why how You said that. $1,500. Why? What what does $1,500, the number $1,500 have to do with selling a $10 album or record? What are we talking about, bro? I ain't never not seen the forest for the trees.
00:05:46
Speaker
You know what I mean? like You streaming, and you got stream
Sneaker Culture Reflections
00:05:49
Speaker
volume. The stream ain't nothing but walking by the store window. Right. And you ain't got to pay for what you've got you got. window shopping. You ain't going to the store. In sync, they went platinum in the first week.
00:05:58
Speaker
Motherfuckers was in that bitch. At the mall. At the Wiz. Before school. Yeah. You know what i'm saying? Like, Eminem Slim Shady LP. I remember going to buy it. Yeah, I remember that came out. Yeah. mom I had to buy it.
00:06:12
Speaker
I had to take the sticker off that bitch. That was a real sale. Yeah. So you look at all the top streaming artists with billboarders say, it'd be like, ain't even saying no names. You just curiosity, bro.
00:06:24
Speaker
And none of them get the love that they think they getting. So it's like, we on the other side. When we came out, we was on the internet. Now we back out, we off the internet. Yo, that's absolute facts, yo. I mean, you know? We know the party over.
00:06:39
Speaker
That bitch is cooked. Ain't nothing on there you could do besides get your Amazon order. And that's not the internet. That's just commerce. yeah So social media, promoting on social media, doing anything Where you not outside to see if anybody thinks you ugly?
00:06:54
Speaker
And you got think this is ugly. It's done. Yeah, we got we got to come back out, man. Nah, yeah. That's
First Sneakers vs First Independent Purchase
00:07:01
Speaker
it. But you're here answer the question that I ask everybody each week. And that question is, what's your first kicks with that first pair sneakers you absolutely needed to have?
00:07:08
Speaker
That I bought or that I need, like, come on, first kicks and the ones I bought is two different things. I know, I know. I know. Because you told the story on FSR, which is, you know. did, but I, it's a couple different stories. Because my first kicks I can remember were LA gear lightups.
00:07:28
Speaker
My first kicks I wanted and my mama got them was the Isle of Nines. Oh, yeah? Olive Nines and then Sean Kemp's because right after the Olive Nines, my mama found out Jordan was using sweatshops and it was cooked for like from from fucking eighth grade, seventh grade to the about senior year.
00:07:48
Speaker
And then the first joints I bought my own money was Crazy 8's. Oh, let's go. But I was like, it wasn't my own money. It was Christmas money.
00:07:58
Speaker
and Okay. Seventh grade. All right. My first joints that I bought with my own, like, hard-earned work money was the Black and Red elevens when they when they first retro in 01.
00:08:13
Speaker
But they're not my favorites, though. No? I mean, i'm I'm not a big 11s person, so I mean, stand on that side. I mean, that's the side I stand on. There's lot of numbers out there. No, I'm going to tell you why, bro. I'm a big 11 supporter, but they've been tweaking, man. Somebody over there, y'all need to call me, dog. There's no Jordan wears over there.
00:08:32
Speaker
I was in the store. Why would you low top the Spizzacks, nigga? Yeah, that was wild. Y'all have not sold one of them bitches. You might as well chop it up. You know i' saying? Y'all be putting extra Nike smooshes and Jordans on shit. Who the fuck is over there?
00:08:46
Speaker
We got to speak on something, bro. You don't got real Jordan wearers. And we don't even care about Jordan. You got niggas that's calling them J's, bro. They call Mikes. They call mics. You know what was the the fracturing point in the 11s when they became toxic?
00:09:02
Speaker
It was when niggas started dressing up with them at prom. That's when it became toxic for the man. They not Concord, bro. that's when it got that's what that not These new names, all that shit, No,
00:09:17
Speaker
He inventing the wheel, though. Look, like this is what the internet- that Man, I was just with my man. I grew it with. We went to high school. We real mic wearers. No, real mic wearers. You had your strings in there, how you rock them.
00:09:29
Speaker
We had the boxes first where it had the gray top and it had my man facing the blonde shades. Where you had to get a ah raffle ticket to get it. You had to skip school because bitches used to come out on Tuesdays.
00:09:41
Speaker
I ain't outside, bro. like And I'm only mad because I went in the store. I'll never not be a Jordan rocker. I'm right here with the bitches. What year are those? What year those? Those 20? don't count that shit. I ain't no sneaker collector.
00:09:54
Speaker
I wear my shit. Yeah, yeah, for sure. ain't got nothing in the fucking box. All my shit is worn. Yeah, you niggas weird. wear all my shit. You got them in them Tupperware drawers not wearing them. I'm never, I'm not my boxers bro. I'ma tell somebody straight up, you can't tell me shit about sneakers. And y'all seeing that, that resale market ain't what it used to be neither. So you might as well just stop all that bullshit. All them thousand dollar pair of general releases and black and white panda dunks for $800. That shit, that's over with man. So y'all might as well start wearing your shit and enjoying your shoes again, man.
00:10:25
Speaker
Yeah, they not called taxis dog. This is not an investment strategy. They not called taxis. They not called flu games. if The nigga didn't even have the flu. He was
Shift in Sneaker Culture
00:10:34
Speaker
hungover. No, yeah, that nigga definitely hungover. Yeah, I thought it was food poisoning. Man, whatever the fuck it was, it wasn't the flu.
00:10:40
Speaker
Whatever was the last dance. Well, what you know, no, I don't care. But what you know about COVID, nigga, you going to play in the game with with the flu? Yeah, you crazy. That's not ethical.
00:10:50
Speaker
No, didn't even have the mask back then. You couldn't even put a mask on. Man, if you got the flu, you better sit your black ass at home. Nah, he should have learned. But, I mean, what you gonna tell him though? You know mean? No, I'm just saying like, him back then everybody trying to rewrite history. Like, yeah yeah we was right there.
00:11:04
Speaker
Yeah. yeahall well know Jordan was the coolest brand you could ever be. Now it's like, Creative Rex. Yo, know Creative Rex, bro. Don't give a fuck. Low Top Spitz X is the dumbest shit I ever seen in my life. That's some ugly shit, I ain't gonna lie. Stupid as fuck. And everybody I see with them, I'm like, bro, get off the court.
00:11:22
Speaker
And they be trying to make fun of the Mexicans for wearing the Jumpmans, but them bitches really got styles to them. And them bitches really got structure to them. That's what I tell you you. Them the ones you really need to hoop in, man. Them be sturdier. Way more sound.
00:11:36
Speaker
I saw the new rollout for what they got coming. Yeah, you saw those It was like 9-11s. That shit is for A&Rs. That shit is for A&Rs. And Tesla workers, bro. And they're just wearing that shit. All right. You know what I mean? Look, I'm actually... This is about to get toxic.
00:11:52
Speaker
Whoever is on the Air Force 1 is putting that little bullshit swoosh on the side that little fire. Yeah, don't stop that shit, man. You trying to get hurt, man. Stop that. Not even hurt.
00:12:03
Speaker
You showing me weird. Cut out. Yo. Because it be just ruining a good color way. It's like, dog, that would have been hard if you didn't just put that little stupid ass embroidered check. Or LeBron. Or whatever LeBron wears a swoosh and it's another swoosh on top of it. Like, who are y'all, bro? Yeah, that was the one from last year. It's like a mellow ball. What the fuck was that? Oh, mean.
00:12:22
Speaker
Nah, we going crazy today. You know who's shoes? so They're super ugly, but they're super cool and I really like them and respect it. I'm not gonna wear them, but they're cool to look at like ah Transformer was as a kid, like a toy, a cool toy.
Ja Morant's Shoe Appeal
00:12:37
Speaker
The Ja Morant show. Nah, nah, nah. I ain't gonna put them bitches on from last year? Nah, the Ja 3s from this year. The ones from last year was fired. Oh, you like the ones from last year? From a shorty up-rocking those, man. Nah, Ja got the hardest hitters in the league. They look really cool. They look like something like I don't know, it's something would've wanted for Christmas. You feel me? I ain't no fits about to bust with them now. They fully valid.
00:13:01
Speaker
They look cool. Sometimes shit is cool to look at. You don't got always be involved with it. Sometimes it's like, man, that's dope. That's for sporty niggas. That's for like... Yeah, if you're trying to... No. No? No. You look like you're ready to ball, but you never ball. Bro, you niggas is not Kobe. You need high tops. Yo ankles is not made for that shit, bro.
00:13:21
Speaker
That's why y'all should be turning into sand. you know I mean, yeah. Especially We're high tops. I don't i don't understand. like I do play in A1 lows. Have you ever hurt yourself doing that? No, I haven't yet. I haven't yet.
00:13:35
Speaker
i like i like i I was fucking with the Devin Bookers that look like the Cortez. Those was far. yeah i like the um But right now, it's really like... I'm gonna keep with it to being New Balance came up and beat everybody ass. No, they smoking shit right now. You fuck with the Joe Fresh goods and the- umbro col collection definitely but I'm talking about even hooping, even cleats. They got baseball in ah in a headlock.
00:14:00
Speaker
So it's like, Nike just thought shit was sweet. and they just kept re-releasing shit that don't nobody want. Now the weird motherfucker got the Air Force Ones with the with the swoosh on the own the toe ah and the ugly swoosh right here and it's a color that look like some vapes that never got cleared.
00:14:19
Speaker
yeah i A matter of fact, speaking of that that era of vapes and Air Force Ones and all that, Y'all gonna hate me because my favorite sneaker huh ah that I just had to have yeah growing up, it's strange because it's not necessarily like, and I had a bunch of mics. I had a bunch of Jordans, all that shit, man. And I was collecting them, man. I had them.
00:14:44
Speaker
But like the the thing that I wanted the most that seemed unattainable almost and it gave me the most excitement was when niggas started putting... Gucci on the Air Force Ones shit like that. ain't gonna lie. Cause we had a urban legend in our town that is like, is a dude, he own a shoe shop huh and you gotta get the Gucci material and then he'll cut it up and then he'll sew it on your Air Force Ones. And a couple people started coming back with him and in the neighborhood and we was like, damn man, like where the dude at? And everybody's kind of like hoarding the dude and they ain't want to really share the plug. And then eventually it kind of started getting out, but dude started getting popular.
00:15:21
Speaker
I got a, a Washington DC eighth grade trip that, you know, they do for every eighth grade year, they get a trip, you know, and, um, i was alright i gotta get Yeah, we rode with the bus. 12-hour bus trip. It was fire. It was crazy.
00:15:33
Speaker
From Chicago? Yeah, from Chicago. I know y'all was mad as hell. Man, Jeepers Creepers just came out. We watched Jeepers Creepers on the bus. Oh, you had the bus with the TV? Oh, yeah, the TV? It was great. Y'all fancy. Best trip of my life, man. was over He was over there touching butt. Yeah. He was like,
00:15:49
Speaker
Troubling times. Troubling times. There's hands everywhere. When you came up for your first time. Hands was everywhere, baby. It was a crazy time, man. I ain't gonna lie. If need over here trying to get kisses and stuff. We did it all, baby. Real simple. They were sleeping in the front, the chaperones, whatever. It got wicked after the lights went out. You what mean?
00:16:07
Speaker
That's here nor there. The thing that really ah shook me up about that trip was I was about to get my Air Force Ones for the trip yeah and then the dude disappeared. I left my shoes with him to get done up. you know I found him, left the shoes to get done up. hu The guy disappears when I'm supposed to come pick him up and he not in the store. The store not open like three days in a row type shit. And it's like, man, where's bro at? Like the trip coming up and I gotta like get the Gucci ones, man.
00:16:32
Speaker
He gone, and then eventually my old man, he was like, man, you might as well figure out a plan B if he ain't about to come back before trip, man. And I was so sad, dog. I just had to go get just another pair of white mid tops. White mid ones, man. I just had to swallow that part, man. But I just had to get the white mid ones.
00:16:55
Speaker
I had fits too, the fits was crazy. I had a fit for every day, it was going nuts. You about to be in DC going. I was about to be going crazy, it was about to be legendary bro and dude just didn't come You put the joints with like three fits?
00:17:07
Speaker
Yeah, yeah I have them. So like they took their three fits? Yeah, I have like they are shoot the three pair shoes for like six days type shit, you know I mean? Like two days here, two days there, you know switch them out but like The Gucci ones, that was my like creme de la creme for the trip. And bro, just like he backdoored me and just disappeared, bro. Never came back. We still didn't. I still didn't get the shoes to this day, bro. Like.
00:17:30
Speaker
Is the nigga alive? I don't know. Still to this day, didn't get the goddamn shooting, bro. Store closed. Dog just was gone, dog. It's the wildest shit I've experienced, man. But ah yeah, if you still out there, whoever you are, i don't even remember your name, bro. He was an older Asian guy in the neighborhood. He had a store and they cobbled shoes and did all that. And man, bro, yeah, he backdoored me crazy and it was it was over with. You got to make sure you're alive before you start this. Yeah, for real.
00:17:57
Speaker
Nah, man, you know what mean? Like he he killed me back then. I died back then, so i don't care if he dead right now, dawg. He killed me back in, what was that, 2002? Man, he was a hypocrite in 2002. I died back in 2002, you know, because of him. So shit.
00:18:11
Speaker
I hope you've been enjoying this week's episode with the cool kids.
Podcast Promotion and Engagement
00:18:15
Speaker
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00:18:27
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00:18:39
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00:18:55
Speaker
But Back to the episode.
Personal Story with Gucci Air Force Ones
00:18:58
Speaker
I mean, look, it's crazy because like that that was such a moment. But I was, so when when I saw that. When was the moment? No, the moment was, I'm talking about with the Gucci's. I know. When was the moment?
00:19:07
Speaker
2002. What happened? oh la I to say like Nelly. Nelly was popping. oh No. No. And it was a- Knock yourself out, Jada Kizir. You're right. Yeah, yeah. He did kick that off too. He lifted up his pants leg, bro.
00:19:23
Speaker
And then- And he only had the one check done. just did the one swoosh. He just did the one swoosh. That was fire. The nigga came right after that with the paper towel durag. Jada was on a wave. He was on a tear back then. Hey, man. fashion He's in a wave.
00:19:38
Speaker
That was the Iverson rap at that time. Yeah, for sure. That's why they put him in the Iverson commercial. That's why shit used to be cooler than it is now. Yeah. I had to go find that Gucci material and everything, bro. It was a whole journey to get to that point and bro just... I was wondering, because like... Cut my lights out. You know what I mean? The way I thought it was done was that dudes was going down the canal to Chinatown over here. Getting the fake bags.
00:20:04
Speaker
now Now the Burberrys came before the Gucci. Right, yeah. That's a different thing. Burberry is like, you got to have a shirt with it. You could have anything with the Gucci on. You know I'm saying? You got Burberry sneakers, nigga. You got to have a Burberry. You got to have a Burberry. You got to have a shirt. Get out of here, man. Cutting up a shirt is like... I feel like that was more expensive to cut up the shirts. What I'm saying is you have to wear a Burberry shirt if you got Burberry sneakers. you the Burberry stuff. didn't write the law. But you could have some Gucci on your sneakers and you do not have to have a Gucci shirt.
00:20:35
Speaker
True. You right. You what I'm saying? It's parameters to this shit. Nah, yeah, because that was like the handbag statement, you know? Yeah, you got to follow the law. I mean, y'all both... movie You know what I'm saying? They prosecute lawbreakers right now. Yeah, yeah you got to make sure. Better follow the goddamn law. Yeah, you don't want the motherfuckers coming for you.
00:20:57
Speaker
Hey, you know, call it martial law up on here. Town law is strictly enforced. I ain't never broke the law. I never will. Y'all hear that out there recording Eyes in the Sky? Eyes in the Sky. Not me. I ain't did it.
00:21:13
Speaker
I mean, so like, you know, when once y'all guys started, you know, yeah, martin else well as yeah you know, I'ma just help myself out. We can share it. Shout out to them dogs. I didn't ask me to do it. I don't know if you seen this size, this means I'm getting money.
00:21:31
Speaker
That's $40. That's some rims right didn' further put there. You good? You good? You got to bring that mic back. Security get in. Nah, but like, so...
00:21:44
Speaker
oh no but like so I know because I was, so I mean, I mentioned FSR. So I was you know, you cop a lot of the nineties, like old nineties sneakers. You were putting them out like in the videos and stuff. Like, I feel like a lot of the ranges from what I was seeing was just a lot of the like old school nineties shit.
00:22:03
Speaker
I mean, let's be specific. I didn't, I didn't ran track through everything. I know you did. My thing is like, it's not specific to that. Cause it's like, You know, I wear shit now that I used to wear in fifth grade, sixth grade. Like, I've never really switched my style up. I don't like to. I don't want to. um I found a lane and I stuck with it.
00:22:24
Speaker
Like, I like jerseys. I like, fuck with overalls. I got the good but got the good low on. You know I mean? Go blue. You know what I'm saying? Dunk contest.
00:22:35
Speaker
That's all I got for you. You ain't going to stress me out, dog. You're not have me. You're not going to stress me out, bro. Yeah. All right. I've always wondered how you two like communicate this. Or even if you y'all y'all just be like,
00:22:49
Speaker
If we got something to I'll be like, what you going on? We just did that shit the other It's very conscious. you know It's a conscious effort. cause you really have to With us, we got a lot of ah the same worlds we operate in as far as clothes go. like We don't necessarily be twinning it, you know what i mean? But we operate in the same worlds when it comes to like you know what the look is for that day or what the look is for that video or event. So we definitely make a ah conscious effort in Over the past couple years, I try to like make us stuff too, because I've been making clothes since like 2011.
00:23:22
Speaker
two thousand and eleven So I'll like, you know, try to think of what we got coming and try to get us pieces for that and make us stuff for it too, you know? So it's ah it's a conscious effort, man, because it's,
00:23:33
Speaker
It just be feeling better when you know y'all both on the same wavelength. You know what i mean? like it's It's cool to you know have the the group look and everybody got their own like personality, but like I feel like when we come together, we can create a synergy you know when it comes to what the look is for you know for whatever event or...
00:23:50
Speaker
or video we gotta do. So yeah, we think about that, man. And I try to ah you know keep that in the back of my mind when I'm making stuff, you know and just blend those worlds that we both you know sit in so we can ah come to this common ground. Nah, yeah. I mean, like earlier I was saying, just like y'all guys have been leaders in this, for this specifically, especially within hip hop for years. Like when y'all first jumped on the scene, you know i don't I feel like you put on, both of y'all put on a ton of people onto sneakers.
00:24:19
Speaker
Oh, yeah. I mean, that's just how we... It was just living it. It wasn't, yeah, it wasn't. Just living it. To even shine a real positive light on it.
00:24:29
Speaker
You know, like I would never be on a rap show talking shit, but I bought some gym shoes. Yeah, everybody could fight me. I'd be in there talking shit like niggas in the barbershop. But I was outside with it. like i just I had to wait. I couldn't.
00:24:42
Speaker
I couldn't just hit a reseller. I really had to go that shit. Wait, look, let me ask you something quick. ah Do you have a story about acquiring some shoes? A crazy story or something? Because I know me and you talked about this a bunch of times. Like, nigga, this shit was serious. Like, it was very serious. Hey, I ain't gonna lie for you.
00:24:59
Speaker
It was a serious process back in the when you had to go to stores and shit. so When them Grey 11s came out Detroit in 01,
00:25:07
Speaker
Nigga, that shit was like the wire. If you made it to your car with your- Zombies on the street. If you made it to the car with your shit, you was actually a gangster for real. That shit was real, bro. It's the wire. You didn't camp out for them, bro. You couldn't. See, that's the thing, too. Back in the days when you had to- You had to beat up with the store open and they got you a race set up. You had to line up in front of that bitch that morning.
00:25:30
Speaker
They let the- the gate halfway. It wasn't no camping. You just had to get there early. yeah You had to get there early. see The tricky part was getting home with your shit. yeah i If you was on the east side of Detroit, I went to high school on the um ah back lot of Eastland Mall.
00:25:48
Speaker
We could hop the mall and get to the Eastland and get our shit. And I was real live. It was really alive. It was niggas and caprices. Like soon as some little school kid came out, they be like, yeah, you might as well just get. Hand that over. Like it was critical. as wild.
00:26:02
Speaker
That's why like to us, Jordans was, they they had a level of darkness to it. Yeah. Like, you couldn't just wear them bitches. You know what I'm saying? It's not like you could.
00:26:15
Speaker
but as That later is over, but. The Indiana Jones crystal skull. Yeah. It's fire and you know, it's it' cool. It look good, but it's, man, that shit, it this come with a lot. It come with a lot too. 1988, bro, if you was outside with these bitches, you had to sell dope.
Resale Market and Authenticity Issues
00:26:29
Speaker
Yeah. Nah, that's real shit. Or you had to be Jerry Seinfeld. Mm-hmm. You know what saying? Like, It wasn't it wasn't came and it wasn't it wasn't an inclusive game or exclusive game. It was really like what what mattered to you.
00:26:43
Speaker
And that was what made it cool. But it's also, you know, it's the best player in the league. And these bitches $125. And gas 89 cents. Mm-hmm. and gas is eighty nine cent So they added value to him, but he knew what he was doing.
00:26:59
Speaker
But it looked cool. If you couldn't have them, they look cooler to you. Yeah. And it wasn't because you couldn't have them because you wasn't rich or you wasn't no corny nigga with like a cool kicks. Like, been you know, all that shit is weird, bro.
00:27:13
Speaker
Niggas is putting whole walls of sneakers in the plasket. Talking about $710 for some grapes. but If I rob your goofy ass shoes. Damn, yeah, bro did just... ah he did he did He did the most. He pushed it to the to that extreme. and That's why I think that we hit the wall now on shoes. And you're about to see a whole different wave come now. you know I think that that we hope that big resale game is is is definitely... It's hurt.
00:27:40
Speaker
It's hurting, man. But it's also like... You gave J Balvin some Jordans. What the fuck is you niggas on? Come on, dawg. I keep asking people who is he. so I know who he is. I don't.
00:27:52
Speaker
He did not grow up with no mics on. No, for sure. yeah and i and't even let i don't like the way they look either. DJ Khaled. That's... i again We also, that's that's the ah fallout from the like the numbers era, right? Of everything is just like, give it to whoever has the biggest numbers.
Critique of Numbers-Driven Sneaker Culture
00:28:09
Speaker
Not necessarily who's gonna sell our brand the best or represent what the culture of our shoe is the best.
00:28:15
Speaker
Who got a lot of fans and got a lot of people that could get us to get more purchases for the shoes. Now you lose money. And this not and that's how you see a lot ah a lot of a lot of lot of these corporations and shit, they starting to see like,
00:28:28
Speaker
Playing that game got them to lose money because this shit can be fake, bro. I could fake all these numbers. I could fake my streams. I could fake my followers, my likes. I could fake it all. And a lot of people did and they got hired because of that.
00:28:42
Speaker
And they didn't get the return on their investment because they was investing in hollow... structures and it's like y'all gotta to go back to like figure go back to the people that's actually gonna put that energy back into the world and make people come to your brand like that's important like it don't matter if he got a million or four hundred thousand bro like if don't nobody give a damn what he's saying like you ain't gonna sell more shoes gonna sell more shoes with a cool nigga that's wearing your shirt you know I do think right now that's where we're in that, especially with, you know, you guys that. I'm about to tell you what happened. Hold on, hold on. But like, I do think in like, I do think now we're currently moving into that. Like, yo, everybody's coming outside and doing things. Cause like, I feel like we all just like, ah, wiping the coat off. Everybody's waking back up again. That's the spirit it. But the product's not there.
00:29:26
Speaker
so The people are there, yeah but the product's not there. And it's like, You know what I'm saying? God bless his soul, my man. Virgil was really outside. Yeah, he was. With the joints on. You know what I'm saying? When we met him, we all had the Black Fives on. The first day, we all came into each... You know, I got a friend that was from...
00:29:46
Speaker
But we did a whole rap show. When the Black Fives came out with the 23 on the side. ah And we cashed our little rap check from doing that. The college club we did went straight up there.
00:29:58
Speaker
Straight up there. man It was in there. i wore them damn I wore them down. You wore the fuck out there. They in the Black Mags video. yeah I couldn't take them bitches off, nigga. Black Fives. Love Black Fives. When they made that resurgence, man, it was the first time that we got those again. i remember being a kid, I never got to get those. I was too young and then I seen like my old man, he had beat up pairs of them, cause you know he had them.
00:30:24
Speaker
And then I'm like, damn, I wish I could've got them. And they came back out, I'm like, oh yeah. That's what happened with the grapes, the grapes came out right before the fives. yeah That's when that five shit came out. yeah But people that was wearing knew what they were.
00:30:38
Speaker
That's why like it was fresh when the green beans came or them army greens, because you like, damn, I ain't never seen a derivative of these. But they wasn't tweaking. no They didn't have all sorts of- was tasteful. They didn't have Coogee threads in the motherfuckers.
00:30:52
Speaker
SpongeBob screen printed on the side. Oh man, them dub zeros bro. Nah, look, let's tell the story. Let's tell the story accurately. hu At the time dub zeros and six rings came out, there was no morph.
00:31:06
Speaker
there was no morph For real. ah hu So that's 05. And then the Spitz Xyx came and fucked every... eye and ah The first time I ever seen it, we went to that New Year's Eve party in 06. And I seen them before I knew what it were.
00:31:20
Speaker
And there was one colorway. And this was like $210.
00:31:24
Speaker
this This is the moon the black, green, and red? Oh, the white color, the white and red. Man, that white But that black one was nasty. Both those colors were crazy. The semen ones was really, they did it. see The semen and the true blues was what did it. Mine is the Bordeaux's. You know the Bordeaux's? The Spitzites? Yeah. I remember the year. Because it is not it's Bordeaux, but not like seven Bordeaux's. It's like blue.
00:31:48
Speaker
the discussion on here about the differentiation of why Spizzikes are not a derivative Jordan. You know how people are like, man, those, them the teams, them the derivatives, how Jordan got different little classes. the Fusions and the Booboo Booboo's and they did the Air Force Ones and the Fives and that little weird shit. That's different than Spizzikes. I feel like Spizzikes is a different class on its own.
00:32:15
Speaker
And they were the first ones to come kick that you know that whole wave off and it was still very original. you know All the pieces were original that they used. art like The leather was thick. They used to have tags on them.
00:32:26
Speaker
Elephant skin. Yeah, they really went crazy with it. And that's why, like I said at the beginning the show, like, who the fuck is in charge? Who told y'all to make low? We don't need no low-top spizzike, nigga.
00:32:37
Speaker
And I have not seen one person in them. And then there was, did you see the one where it's like, he did a he did one for, they did a specific one just for like Spike Lee's block party.
00:32:48
Speaker
Yeah. And that, I was like, it was like a white, yeah. yeah yeah Then you had to, you had to Spike Forrest like, nos it's, it's, it's, it's
00:33:03
Speaker
marketing was so yeah It was just so cool. The Do The Right Thing 4s, yo, are still one of them all-time favorites. They marketed the shit out of them. Yeah. four' got a lot of marketing. mean, 4s is my favorite model.
00:33:16
Speaker
they have power Yeah, that's that's a good one. And look, they don't wrinkle, they don't dirty up, they age well. If you a light stepper. If you light stepper. They got their boots too. They damn near boots too. They got a little boot appeal to them as well. The nines are the boots. The nines definitely got the boots. The thing about the nines they keep switching that bottom.
00:33:36
Speaker
yeah They keep switching at that bottom like They need to stop touching shit, bro. Mercedes Benz don't come back and got Tesla wheels on You know what mean? Like, stop touching shit. You know, to see something be a classic.
00:33:50
Speaker
It's like movie remakes. Yeah. Like when they did Superfly again. And my man, I forgot his name. Sean Jackson. Yeah. Oh, when everybody had him to All White, that Superfly? Yeah, that Superfly. That nigga came with... It was like belly, Superfly belly. Oh, it was like Superfly belly, boots on the ground remix.
00:34:07
Speaker
That's...
00:34:10
Speaker
Didn't Future do the theme song or something? Yeah, Future did the whole thing. We are having a hell of a time. Ay, the Boots on the Ground remix is crazy. That was it. You know Fantasia on that.
00:34:21
Speaker
Nah, didn't. Yeah, Boots on the Ground featuring Fantasia. That's black as fuck.
00:34:27
Speaker
That don't get no blacker than that. Yeah, that's it. Y'all be playing that on my DJ set. So when you, because you moved to Chicago? When? Like, that I'm asking you, when like when you got older, you moved to Chicago, right? No, I moved to Chicago right after high school. oh I went to college in Chicago. what was the What's like the difference? Because like, I know how big Jordans are in Chicago. no I'm going to keep it being. In Detroit, that shit was, it was second in, you know, you couldn't, like,
00:34:54
Speaker
It was wild because niggas in Detroit were not Michael Jordan lovers. Right, yeah. you know what mean? Like, if you grew up a Pistons fan, it was always like, fuck, dog. But we'll be in the Pistons jacket on. You got these on because it was not basketball.
00:35:08
Speaker
Right. no We like Michael Jordan, but these bitches were so fresh. yeah It could have been Dennis Rodden. It was beyond sports. Yeah. yeah ah Like, he just picked models that was like, you see, if you go...
00:35:20
Speaker
Three, four, five, six. There's still nothing in the world right now that has that type of craftsmanship, that type of design, that type of thought out. Because niggas don't even know that on the six, the shit say MJ on the side. That's MJ.
00:35:36
Speaker
As a kid, do you know how rich you got to think somebody is if they hooping in they Jordans? That was crazy. yeah I remember going to, ah we was playing another school in junior high on basketball and they whole team, they was wearing mics. i was like, oh, we fucked.
00:35:53
Speaker
We lost this. These niggas is crazy. Everybody hooping in the mics. It's not a fair fight right now. Nah, you know, because that's my middle school year. I definitely got, we got ran off the court with a whole team of niggas with 12s on. Yeah. No, it's over with. But they was with the white and red ones. Now, if you was outside you saw the black and white ones, they came out.
00:36:16
Speaker
They came out Thanksgiving in 96. And what was crazy is, I think the commercial, the first commercial, I don't know if it aired during the Super Bowl or whatever, but...
00:36:29
Speaker
When Jordan going down the lane slow motion yeah and you see them shoes... And you always saw the back of them. That's how they had them in the magazine. And then I know everybody was like, nah, these bitches kind of ugly. And then start seeing them on people's feet. You like, damn, them bitches is fresh.
00:36:43
Speaker
Then like three months later, somebody came with the red joint. They like, what? Then they came with the blue and white. I wasn't fucking with the, not the, not the, not the flu games, but the playoff joints.
00:37:01
Speaker
Which ones? thewa what The white ah paneling with the Navy. Not Chicago. No, the Navy is all-star.
Impact of Low Top Jordan 11s
00:37:09
Speaker
yeah So Jordan, this is what it used to be.
00:37:11
Speaker
Right. Like starting when he got back into the league. You get a black and white one. You get a black and red one. Right. You get some sort of kind of Carolina derivative. right yeah. Then you would get a playoff.
00:37:25
Speaker
And that's where it stopped. Mm-hmm. You know what he fucked him up with the 11s was he came low tops and them bitches was crispy. Yeah. The low 11s. But he hooped with him. The low 11s was dead. That's when shit got, that's when shit got, man, that's when feel like a dope man got in charge of like Jordan Design around that time. Cause when they started doing like the pig and the snake skin. The pig and the snake skin. Oh God. but that's, that's, that's, that's summer 01. That's summer 01. I'm talking about, I'm talking about, I'm talking about the low top.
00:37:55
Speaker
11s. the Low top 11s that came with the black and then they came all white. Yeah. Yeah. great Yeah. And then because the red and whites only came low first at first. Remember? Yeah. know that was Yeah. Yeah. in the man so i said that's not i e not the i e think about the the because you remember when they dropped the eleven low i es and it's like the one with the It's got the the panel of ah elephant print on the top. Yeah, but I'm saying, like that was a that summer 01.
00:38:23
Speaker
Yeah. So they had the low joints. They had nigga Fabulous wore them bitches in the Superwoman video for Lil Mo. Fuck the game up. Then ah you got to 98 where you had the, what do they call them?
00:38:42
Speaker
Which ones? What's the 13s? That's the first ones. The first 13s. He got games? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. hate when they do that shit like that. So what's the... They just called Jordan 13s trying to give them a fucking name. So you don't fuck with names. They try to do eras. Well, for what?
00:39:01
Speaker
They air Jordan 13s, they air Jordan 11s, they air Jordan 12s. And on the box, it say black red. Like all of that trying to name it is for niggas that don't know what number it was. Well, what if somebody was just like, yo... Encyclopedic, you know? If you said... If you try to tell me, hey, check, we got some taxis in here. I'm like, you can keep them. I'm like, you better call you one then. You want the style code? Nah, bro, like, i stop changing the game. You won't go on a basketball court and throw a football just because you feel like it.
00:39:29
Speaker
But I don't think it is. It's just that if you add it, I understand, i was outside. I know you was outside, but you didn't call him there at the time unless they was retros. yeah They only retroed and then gave it a name.
00:39:40
Speaker
but that's ah But I think that's more sneaker culture doing that. That's not sneaker culture. Them niggas is weird. Sneaker culture is weird. We're known for sneaker culture, right? yeah I don't have no sneakers in my house in a
Commercialization of Sneaker Culture
00:39:52
Speaker
box.
00:39:52
Speaker
You know what I'm saying? like trying Like, no, sneaker culture isn't a thing. That's why they die. That was capitalism seeing that niggas like sneakers and figure out how to sell some more shit.
00:40:03
Speaker
That's what was. So how it used to be is you would- Here, you need these super boxes to keep your shoes clean because you don't wear them. Then you need super cleaner and super laces and you need to buy that and you need a super freezer to freeze your shoes so you don't wear them. That water protector, the water protector. Foot Locker. Foot Locker did that. I feel like that wasn't sneaker coaching. Foot Locker.
00:40:23
Speaker
Niggas used to force that shit on you back in the day. Come here, man. spray this on your shit. They had a ah documentary called Just For Kicks. Yeah, yeah. That was when it ended. That? That's what you called it? No, I'm saying they told it well and then kids saw it and thought that they could go and do that. Well, you definitely can't do any of what's in that documentary. DJ AM wrestles so, bro, he had to go get, like, that shit wasn't easy.
00:40:45
Speaker
That's what I'm saying about sneaker coaching. What about what Entourage did that? they They were at the end of it. Yeah. But AM is in that episode. Right, yeah. Which leveled it out. History, yeah. What I'm saying about sneaker culture is it was not, it wasn't a thing. It's just, oh, you got the force?
00:41:02
Speaker
Man, we cool. Yeah. That's it. That's it. Y'all going to conventions and bringing a whole bunch of shit. are you Trying to check for noops and all that. It wasn't really no forums talking about this shit.
00:41:13
Speaker
I think that was something that was created out of ah capitalism for real. You think think niggas started wanting to like sell shit to each other. like which is I think that's cultural, but at the same time, I feel like i feel it was a culture before that even.
00:41:26
Speaker
The people that couldn't make the lines, who couldn't go outside, needed to bring it online. Did you hear what you just said? I know, yes. Did you go to a concert if you didn't if you didn't do that?
00:41:37
Speaker
and he was If you didn't get a line or you didn't get a ticket, did you go to the concert? No, I did not go to the concert. That's what saying, There's parameters to this shit. People just want to do it because they think they can. And then their parents is rich, so they ended up watering the market down.
00:41:51
Speaker
You know, I don't care enough. I'm just saying the shit is not as cool as it was because the cool isn't there. The cool is the sport of it. yeah The laws that come with it. yeah You know what saying? like I think pickleball is cool. You know why?
00:42:05
Speaker
Because it's got fucking rules. yeah You can't just go out there and kick that motherfucker. So and anything I like when hobbies stay the way they are. I was at a hotel and it was sports memorabilia convention.
00:42:20
Speaker
Bro, them people not playing with you. they I just seen it. I seen dog pull out 20,000 cash. You can't even just go. You can't pull up on that. The RC niggas? RC, you can't pull up on them. You can't even come outside with them. Go fuck around with them craft whiskey niggas, bro. Or craft bourbon niggas, bro. $4,000 bottles and shit, they not playing with you. can't just come in here with your Jack Daniels and dance around and shit. They're gonna be like, nah, You gotta pay some dues, you gotta go through the rigmarole. For sure, yeah. And yes, I do think that if you really about it, if you really live sneakers, there are- And anything you do, be 10 toes with it, or you not helping it. Then it's gonna be six more you niggas that's not helping it. Now it's a line down the block.
00:43:13
Speaker
All y'all got y'all phones out, and none of y'all wearing y'all shit. So what are y'all telling the kids? Hold on to your box, you bitch. Man, 12 years down the line, the the sneak the whole bottom falling off.
00:43:26
Speaker
Yeah, for sure. That's what I don't get. Nah, like that. That's what the fuck you get. I mean, yes. But there are people that be definitely that just hold on to stuff for years. I'm just like, why aren't you wearing this? Hold on to sneakers. No, man, you put that on. Yeah, you got to put that on. Because now we're seeing that they don't last, bro. like we we We got to a point where we thought that they were bigger than what they were. These are cool looking shoes, man.
00:43:51
Speaker
They're not using cutting edge materials and all this crazy shit. The value came from us. We built the value of all this shit. We said Jordan's cost 200, 300. We said this shoe costs $1,000. we said this shoe costs a thousand dollars The material that they're using doesn't say that at all. The processes, nothing. They're making athletic sneakers for common consumption. And we built the whole culture off of that shit. And we figured out what it was worth to us. You know what i'm saying?
Cultural Value of Sneakers
00:44:17
Speaker
And after we decided that shit was worth $1,500 and $2,000 for a pair should
00:44:23
Speaker
you saw that it don't last as long as a pair of shoes it's supposed to cost $1,000 because that motherfucker cost $100, bro. It's a $100 pair of shoes. Why are we now to my inflating this stuff? My favorite Jordan of all time, and I can tell you why, and I know why real Mike wears understand it.
00:44:41
Speaker
The 17s with the briefcase. It wasn't about the briefcase. And it wasn't about to the CD wrong. You know what it was about? The nigga just came back. You understand? like That's the date. It was the time where people didn't even think he would ever come back. They thought he was done. He thought he was dubbed and he went to the Wizards.
00:45:02
Speaker
He bullied Kwame Brown for a whole year. Made his life hell. You know what I'm saying? I always have beef with people that say, oh, that was Jordan on the Wizards. That was a two-time All-Star. He was still dropping 40 on it. Everybody spanking everybody spankings for for sure and the ones that came after that well my 16, 17 15, 16, 17 yeah
00:45:29
Speaker
the resurgence nah it's never gone away it's just somebody in the building it's like oh the kids don't want that that's why Y'all shit is sitting on the shelves now. Making a low top motherfucking Spizzites. Hey, look. Seventeen's came back, yo. They bring back the yellow ones. No, no, no. i'm talking about the... Did you see the Infinity Archive joints?
00:45:45
Speaker
Yeah, I seen them. Those are fire, bro. I'm just saying. I get it. But somebody must be listening. But that's... i mean, that's... That's separating... That's Travis's man. That's easy. Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They dialed back in there. I mean, you got to know your history to work inside something like for sure. I'm just saying...
00:46:03
Speaker
It's Christmas time. yeah Right now it's October. If you said them 17s with the briefcase, with a jump drive, what you get right now? Or a hard drive. I don't know what you would get. I would leave a CD out. QR code. You get a QR code. yeah you know you build it you let Let me hear you build out.
00:46:20
Speaker
Because you you know you guys did the did the the the whole 150 box. Build a box set then. Build your box set. Let's hear it. Spit it to them. 17s. And I'm coming red off the bat. Okay. Just to fucking look.
00:46:33
Speaker
Uh-huh. I'm going...
00:46:38
Speaker
What am I going to do? I'm going put a zine in there. Mm-hmm. But, like, that focuses on the time he was retired before he came back. So 14s, 15s, 16s. Mm-hmm.
00:46:50
Speaker
Do a little history on that. Pop out with the 17s. Have something that had his stats from the 2001, 2002 season.
00:47:02
Speaker
You know what saying, put the American flag on there, cause 9-11 happened. You know what mean? Like it ain't about the box, it's about what was happening right there. You know what mean? Like the 15s, why was they looking like that?
00:47:16
Speaker
Tinker Hatfield was basing off the nigga putting his tongue out. um So the tongue was out. That's a story. You know what I'm saying? Look, when they, um. See, I didn't know that. And that's my first Jordan. That's first Jordan.
00:47:30
Speaker
And it was fire. And they was comfy as a motherfucker. They were mad comfy. I used to ball. They were the best. 15s are so underrated, bro. The all black 15s. Yeah, you're doing... things Yeah, I told, so I met Tinker the beginning of this year. Well, no, in August I met Tinker.
00:47:46
Speaker
And so like, yeah, I was telling him how much I, like I had those and stuff like that. it was crazy. Bro, that man should have designed it. He should have designed that White House, to be honest with you. Yeah, you should You should have. What's Greg's was talking about?
00:47:58
Speaker
No, something, the 15s, the white. is like Oh yeah, they had a couple flavors that they kind of killed them. ah the navys The Navy and White one was crazy. Let's get to the 16s with the covering.
00:48:09
Speaker
Yeah, I wasn't a big 16s guy. Man, them grew on me. ain't gonna lie. They look like tap shoes, bro. Bro, you gotta get out. keep the sleeve on, though. You gotta get out. You take the sleeve off. I never bought them. That's why. was just like. Nah, look, man. I can't let no disrespect cross my desk. Outside the Cherrywoods.
00:48:27
Speaker
Cherrywoods is good. I like those. He take the cover off of every other one but the black ones. Mm-hmm. Take the cover off the Cherrywoods. What's the brown joints? You take the cover off the brown joints. Is like flax? Yeah, it's like a V-Tem color. Yeah, like it used to be style to the style.
00:48:51
Speaker
You know what I mean? like And that's what made me a fan. That's why i speak passionately. and i ain't just up here talking shit. and he's No, I real mic wear. You know i mean? Still right now. i this ain't And these bitches got dirt on them. My boots was on the ground.
00:49:04
Speaker
This ain't no remix, you know what mean? It's the original Kotlin, you feel me? So and I think when it comes down to that, it's like the passion of the things that you have a hobby for yeah or that you're a fan of.
00:49:19
Speaker
You know, like, yeah, I like the word collector, but wear your shit. Wear your shit. I don't see why not to be real. You know, art people don't buy art and then keep it in the garage. No, they want to look at it. And to be real, unless you really beating your shit crazy and wrecking parts. Don't beat your shit crazy. Pause though, don't beat your shit crazy man. Relax when you beat your shit.
00:49:43
Speaker
All right man, just don't air this live. but Do this on the 11th after the album come out man. by you Unless you really like fucking your shoes up. They're not gonna lose that much value if you try to sell them again if they that shit anyway. haven't seen motherfuckers sell some used, you know, gray old pieces for like maybe $100 less than what the fucking brand new price is. It's like, it don't really matter. i but I had a pair of SBs, the Strummers, right? And it was just like this like brown shit. And this is during the height of where all this brown sneakers was going crazy.
00:50:17
Speaker
and i I used to work in them at a candy store and I had like, i got like milk on them. Yeah, they Sold them eBay for like, they stunk. sold them on eBay for No, that's I was in the eBay trenches, man. Like I knew it. I seen used pairs of shoes getting sold for $50 less than the retail, $100 less. It's like, man, if people want them bitches, they gonna buy them if they're beat up or not. So just wear your shoes. The only shoes I was some, them Yeezy ones.
00:50:50
Speaker
I just couldn't take them on to the next chapter of my life. No. No, they was fresh for what they was fresh for. I liked i liked them, but like said, I couldn't take them on for the next chapter of my life.
00:51:00
Speaker
I don't hold on to shit. i do have I got i gotta a regret on those. the first is what which Break down my Yeezy history again. There was the um Louis Vuitton era that he had. Then he got to Nike and the first Nike ones were like the high, high tops. Almost like Marty McFly. I had them two. Man, dog.
00:51:22
Speaker
I didn't care for them back then at all. I think I sold them bitches for like $200. I think no, but we're still living i was like, hey, you wanna buy these? here take them. I sold mine for 275.
00:51:34
Speaker
I don't know what I was doing. so I was like, yeah, I was like, here, take these, bro. But I do regret doing that, because I could probably got a lot more money. Brand new, like never worn type.
00:51:45
Speaker
I ain't even wear mine. Cause them just wasn't, them wasn't my, i them wasn't my fit. They weren't my style. I just didn't get out of them. make them work with a couple of different things. I think just having them at the time, it was fresh, but we got a poster. I got some Yeezys on them. I'm like, that shit did not go with my fit.
00:52:00
Speaker
That did not hit my fit. I was like, ain't nothing I can really do with these. The ankle, the past the ankle high, sky high phase, man. so I mean, what's wrong? Bro, protect your ankles.
00:52:11
Speaker
I mean, no, I'm just saying. that was so You got high tops? and No, but I'm talking about, like, we're talking about the Batman wings. Yeah. The big, the Marty McStyle. The Supras used going up all way up here. then.
00:52:22
Speaker
Supras. You know, know much time we got left, but I got a little bit of. We got we got like 10 minutes. I got some timeline corrections. Yeah. Who the fuck said the mid ones was a fire? jar Clark Kent I talked about it He said He's the first one He's the first he's the one that was less like He was the one that that caused it He's the one that said He caused everybody timeline name Look i've but I've been a mid rocker for Mid ones is my shit Man what Them ah di yellow joints with the green joints Them them was mids You feel me
00:52:55
Speaker
Like who, I mean, I get it. Shout out to Clark Kent, rest his soul. No, we got to reverse the timeline, man. Nah, he's like- The vids ain't never hurt nobody. I want to speak on this, right? Just as a sneaker historian, Clark Kent wasn't known for Jordans.
00:53:10
Speaker
No. You what I'm saying? an Air Force rocker. Yeah, he just rocked all these Air Forces. was historian, but like, real mic rockers are like, we're different. You can say you rock Nikes, you can have all the Nikes.
00:53:22
Speaker
But real Mike Rock, like, we didn't have we didn't have no discrimination like that. Now, authentic Mike Rockers, you only wear with real Rocks on the court.
00:53:34
Speaker
You know what saying? Like, that's the law. But then there's the expansion of you know what mean? Air Force Ones, you know, certain collectors. I ain't never seen somebody with, like,
00:53:46
Speaker
You know, what was them snake skin Air Force ones? ain't see them. Or the alligator ones. I ain't never seen them with no mics. No, yeah. Oh, the alligator force ones? That was musky era, man. Musky? That was a heavy era. That was a heavy era. Sweaters was real heavy around that time. Remember niggas had, it was matching sweater hat combos. Oh, yeah, Heavy ass wools and shit around that time. Alligator ones was popping, man. That was that brown sugar. Yeah, that was a heavy, that a musky, mahogany ass time, bro.
00:54:20
Speaker
Like real. Smell like a cigar. Yeah, it smelled like a cigar off a fresh fresh ah warehouse gig, man. Those times was a little rougher. That was a Funk Flex mixtape. Yeah. fun
00:54:36
Speaker
Niggas smoking a ah fresh Newport and in ah an Amaretto sour type shit. Niggas got chip cherry almond black amounts. Yeah. you yo Oh, my God, man. Cherry vanilla black amounts. Cherry vanilla black amounts. I went to eight grade eighth grade graduation. we were smoking them bitches in the limo.
00:54:52
Speaker
Man, I wish my mom would have stopped me from that. That was a cool time. You were balling out smoking. It was crazy. I got one last question before we we bounce up out of here. It deals with a little visualization I want you how to think about to younger y'all selves.
00:55:06
Speaker
It's hard to ask this to two people at the same time. I usually ask only the one person. But but they yeah talking yeah to to younger younger selves of yourself, ah think about the l LA Gears.
00:55:17
Speaker
And then what was the first kicks? they like Oh, the Gucci ones. The Gucci ones. So then what do you want to do? You want to pumps? Nah, man. I think ah think that but eights I went one year where I wanted my shoes to light up.
00:55:34
Speaker
I think that might have been a second grade or third grade. I got the fourth grade. I'm on the East Side of Detroit at the school I went to. Uh-huh. remember walking in, pow, lit up, pow, lit up.
00:55:47
Speaker
This nigga's shoes light up. yeah This nigga's shoes light up. Somebody said he think he's a meteor man. That's what he hit me with. You had that. It's time to call OG and get up out of there. My mom wouldn't pick me up for that. so she said that she I asked for him.
00:56:06
Speaker
And I got him. Oh yeah, you your ass whooped if you ask for him and complain. yeah But i want you to think younger you. doest Just let's go younger you. Whatever shoe you you want to pick. um ah Now you're older.
00:56:18
Speaker
Y'all older selves behind your younger selves. As they open that box, what would you tell your younger selves? Put them bitches back in there. For the LA Gears? Not even that. Because you about to hoop in them. You about to ruin them. You go go outside and play. Because we didn't have that option at that. You had to go outside play. You had to do everything in the room.
00:56:34
Speaker
And what I would do is I would Yeah, I'd put them bitches back and go get ah the Andre Agassiz or something. Which ones?
00:56:46
Speaker
The first ones. Mm-hmm. But you got think like. Lava joints, bro. That's real. I'm watching Power Rangers, Ninja Turtles and shit. i don't care about being fresh. My mama's still dressing me at that point. That's real.
00:56:57
Speaker
But the other side, i would tell him, wear them shits outside. Have fun. Don't let nobody tell you can't rock no light up shoes. Because you going to get in the future. That sounds so crazy. You to get the future, niggas going to have spikes on their shit. Yeah, yeah. Nigga's do got spikes on their shoes. Nigga got spikes on their shoes. Virgil put them spikes on them shoes, man. What? No, not them. I'm talking about them. Louboutins. Oh, the Louboutins. Oh, yeah, you're
Custom Gucci Air Force Ones Journey
00:57:22
Speaker
right. Them Bowser shoes. Nigga's coming through with them. bad, bad. yeah, yeah.
00:57:24
Speaker
King Coopers, you know what I mean? Yeah, the Red Bons. They can kick somebody and kill their ass. Yeah, talking King Coopers, man. Magic ain't no fight in them joints. Nah, I'm stepping the shit out of somebody. Give them a little shin kick, you know what Take him off and just start I'm gonna step on your shoe Cause you know how they used to teach how to fight Step on your shoe Yeah man ah Let me see ah I would have to tell my younger self then When he was going to try to put them Gucci Air Force Ones together would just tell him man like you about to take the L, but you on the right path. Like you on the right path. I think that was the beginning of my like curiosity of like making clothes and customizing shit and like wanting to like go the extra mile, you know, that that the other kids wasn't going. Everybody else just went to Foot Locker and got the shoes.
00:58:06
Speaker
I went and got the shoes and I went got some fabric and I went and found the, you know, shoe cobbler dude to put the shit on there. So I feel like I'll just tell him like, yeah, you you want You on the right path, man. Just keep it going. Don't let this this ah bump in the road discourage you. And yeah, just keep keep curiosity. Keep looking around. You what's crazy about that?
00:58:26
Speaker
You still was fitted on the trip. Didn't nobody know you was not about to have him. Yeah, exactly. Unless you personally i was out unless you guys knew unless she was in class i was gonna do and was telling I did tell everybody I was going to have the Gucci ones, though. definitely told everybody else going to have them. I told them, I was like, found a dude, it's a rap. I got the material. I got the Gucci ones. It cost $50. He going to sew it on there. It's over with. Y'all niggas just bums, man.
00:58:53
Speaker
I was ah you know ahead of myself. so yeah I spoke a little too soon. and I took that L, but yeah my younger self, I tell them, just keep going. you You on the right path. You got the right idea. Customize shit how you want to. Make your own world.
Promotions and Influences of The Cool Kids
00:59:06
Speaker
Let everybody know where to find y'all Plug that plug that shit Outside oh yeah you know we we definitely are Outside.com You can find us ah Backslash ah link up nigga And you can definitely find us on Instagram Sir Mike The algorithm gotta all play it out We don't care yeah um Old English on Instagram. Yeah.
00:59:28
Speaker
But yeah, do yeah do the searches. the searches. We got stuff in the streets. But make sure you you tap into that high top fade. Exactly, man. Yeah, out in like three hours. Yeah, it's out midnight, man. It'll probably be out by the time you see this. Nah, by the time this comes out, it'll be out. Oh, it'll be out fully. Yeah, I'll be out fully. High top fade, man. Y'all tap in with us on there.
00:59:46
Speaker
We got physical shit too, man. So we trying to get back to the tangible world. So y'all hit us up, coolxkids.com. We got stuff for you, man. Merchandise, all that. And the music is is out there. So y'all go ahead and find us.
00:59:58
Speaker
Yes, sir. You know where to find me, WhoisHasso. Also social medias, follow the podcast, My First Kicks Pod. And I'm going to kick it to myself to talk about the Patreon, Patreon shoutouts, patreon.com slash myfirstkicks. All right, yo.
01:00:09
Speaker
Peace. We did it. Thank you for listening to this week's episode with the cool kids, Chuck and Mikey. Yo, this episode was crazy. When I was rewatching it as I was editing to make the clips that hopefully y'all checked out this week, I was rolling.
01:00:24
Speaker
I was rolling. I haven't laughed that hard since maybe Meryl's episode when I was clipping Meryl's episode. And it's just crazy that I was able to get them to sit down with me and talk about their journey with Kix and what they see nowadays and you know, talking about all the stuff that they're noticing. And for real, they brought a lot of this stuff into like our current 2000s, like millennial.
01:00:49
Speaker
um Is that the word you want to say? Millennial us. ah But like our day and age, if you're wrote my age, if you're like around your 30s or so, you definitely know who the cool kids are. And, you
Cultural Impact of The Cool Kids
01:01:02
Speaker
know, like,
01:01:03
Speaker
the impact they had within sneaker culture, within street wear during the time, like they brought in a lot of cool stuff. I mean, shoot, like if even if you just watch the Black Mags video, like they ushered in like, I remember which is something I feel like I should have said on this podcast, but I remember wanting a bike so bad after that. Like I really got into BMX and from them, like, and ah even though I had like, when I had Jay Miles on, we talked a little bit about like my love for Dave Mira, Matt Hoffman and Nigel, of course, you know, like, but the cool kids really brought that, like you were able to be a person of color on a bike. Like a lot of these people that you've, you've never seen until you seem like somebody like a Nigel. Right.
01:01:48
Speaker
So, They really ushered a lot of that in. And, you know, hope this episode you get to really tap into them and see a different side of them, because if you ever watch some of their episodes or like some of their interviews, they're mainly talking about hip hop. And so.
01:02:06
Speaker
getting to talk to them about like their impact in the culture and, and also their impact on just like what they've seen and how do they perceive it? Like, how do they see it and the future of it? It was just super cool and forever thankful for them for passing by and creating a connection with me. And hope they created a ah connection with y'all and y'all check out their new album, High Top Fade. I've been bumping it. It's,
01:02:32
Speaker
It's fire. So i'm I'm very excited. They got a joint with Sango on there that. Man, that joint, I had it on repeat the first time I heard it ah until just over and over and over again, because it's just so fire. Like it's 8-track, Sango and the cool kids. And it's bananas. So tap into that. And if you listen to that and you're watching to the you're watching this, don't watching. If you're watching this,
01:02:58
Speaker
Leave a comment that you listen to that song, even if you haven't left the comment before the episode or if you did leave a comment, like just come back after you listen to it's ah I think it's called South 95.
01:03:11
Speaker
You listen to it. Come back. Leave a comment on this episode. Tell me that you listen to this episode and you listen to that track. um But of course, we're going to jump into the Patreon shout outs because.
01:03:24
Speaker
You know, got to shout to the people that really support this and not saying that you don't just they take the extra mile to really help your boy out, especially, you know, this is a one man band right here. So, you know, editing, producing all of that, you know.
01:03:40
Speaker
So thank you for signing up for the Patreon. And you can also sign up for the Patreon at Patreon.com slash my first kicks. You see it in the right hand corner right here. ah So, yeah, let's start them off.
01:03:52
Speaker
Shout out to Ross Adams. Shout out to Adam Butler, MSR. Shout out to Derek, a.k.a. Fresh Poetic. Shout out to Jesse, Jesse G, who recently hit me up to grab try to go see Miles Mouse, and I don't know.
01:04:08
Speaker
So just because I had to make sure I had got this episode out and then shout out to Plox, recent subscriber to the Patreon. And of course, you can also join the Patreon and get a shout out and become a patron patron at patreon.com slash my first kicks.
01:04:28
Speaker
I'm leaving all my flubs in. don't care because I'm packing for ComplexCon. And if you made it all the way to the end of this, if you are at ComplexCon and you're waiting online or if you see me walking around, please stop me. Tell me that you listen to this podcast, please.
01:04:45
Speaker
You know, I would love to have a conversation with each and every one of y'all. That's the goal of this, trying to build community, try to, you know, share conversations, experience things. and you know, I go to ComplexCon every year. i don't know when is the next one I'll miss, but I'm currently right now ah in Las Vegas.
ComplexCon Preparations and Community Building
01:05:05
Speaker
And if you are going to ComplexCon, hit me up. I would love to link up. I would love just show some love, especially because everyone who listens to this has...
01:05:19
Speaker
giving me love because I did not think I would ever like I keep saying this. I did not think making this in my room where you see right here. I did not think it would bring me to the places I've gone this year. And so I'm forever thankful for everybody who listens to this. I'm forever thankful for anybody who shares this and I really appreciate every single one office happening.
01:05:39
Speaker
But if this is your first time listening or you've been a longtime listener, check out these two episodes here and subscribe to the podcast if you haven't yet. And of course, you know what say each week, your kicks.
01:05:51
Speaker
Peace.