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Ep. 313 - The Delta Shuffle
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Ep. 313, Recorded 2/26/2026. Doc votes present. The Band had the jokes. Olympics Recap. Lance had a bad day. FIFA raises the stakes. Crunching M&M. AI Money for Nothing. Error Canada. Sign our petition. Grab your handle! Meta goes Meta. Speaking of climate. WWII Buffs in NYC. Delays for thee, not for me. It’s Pasta time.
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Podcast Introduction and Banter
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Speaker
Levels, levels?
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Levels, levels.
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Given how close that we've strayed into the other podcast the last couple of weeks, should we do a recap of the State of the Union from the other night?
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You got control of the button again, didn't you?
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Yep.
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Yeah.
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Did you get it all out of your system this time?
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Yeah.
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The last 30 minutes of me ranting about the current administration, it really, it always gets me going.
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I'm good.
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I'm ready.
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Okay.
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Well, I mean, that's too bad, though, because if you'd just gone another one hour and 20 minutes longer, you'd beat the record from earlier this week.
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Oh, I can do that.
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Just...
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Hi toddlers!
Introduction to 'Talking to Todd' Podcast
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Welcome to Talking to Todd, a weekly podcast with Dwayne Johnson and Todd Prince, where failure is always an option.
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Thanks for joining us.
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Hey, Todd.
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Hey, how's it going?
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Pretty good.
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Pretty good.
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How are you?
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Not too bad.
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Not too bad.
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Just letting the toddlers know, there was a version of that cold open, by the way, that our theme, that wasn't the opening theme.
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that we were going to do that cold open.
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And that was the closing theme at which Dwayne would come back and say, here's thanks to our sponsors.
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Please don't see us.
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Please come and see us.
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Please don't do that, Todd.
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And then we're done to make up for the fact that that was an hour and 50 minutes of ranting.
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But we decided, you know what?
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I mean, to be completely honest, that's probably actually the funnier version.
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Maybe we should have left it with that one, but we're stuck now.
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I have deleted Joan Jett and the Blackhearts from my soundboard and I have reinstituted the other theme.
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I thought it was appropriate.
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I stuck that back on there, figured I was going to need it.
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Everything feel right in the world now with your soundbar?
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I guess so.
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Sure, why not?
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Wait, that means I can say that he was standing there next to the dancing machine and you can't do anything about it?
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I can't.
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He was standing next to the dancing machine.
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You're wrong.
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You're wrong twice.
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Yep.
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Yep.
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I figured one, you wouldn't be tempted to, you would be, what would be going through your mind is how quickly can I reload that?
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I edit.
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I do the edit.
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I can play it anytime I want.
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That means I would have to have to actually do some editing, which we know we don't do around here anymore.
Theme Music and Sponsor Jokes
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Let's see.
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Feedback, follow up updates.
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Toddler number one.
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We got caught back up a little bit.
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We got as far as the sports movies episode out of time.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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He hasn't seen Bull Durham.
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Never came up.
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Here's the thing.
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I was never flipping through TBS at the time that that was on.
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Apparently.
TV Show Recommendations and Opinions
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Let's see.
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Also, Martin Freeman.
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She had it before either of us.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I believe most people should have.
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Different feedback from a separate episode.
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You said you were watching Best Medicine.
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Yes.
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With Josh Charles.
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Right.
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sports night alum, but you didn't say whether or not you recommended it.
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Are you just watching it or is this something that we should all pick up?
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It's fine.
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It's if, if you're looking for something to watch, it's a, it's a network show.
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It's something.
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If you're looking for something to watch, it's something.
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It's, it's, it's not terrible.
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You know, you know, you know what you're going to get, right?
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It's a network show of fish out of water.
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What I've heard from multiple people is this.
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I've heard from multiple critics.
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This one's fine.
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If you want a good show, go find Doc Martin from the UK and watch that because that's that's really good.
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And then this one is, you know, present.
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She thought it was going to be more like Doc Hollywood, which is a similar Dr. Small Town Fish Out of Water story.
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Yes.
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Yeah.
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Nice pig, Doc.
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That's what they tell me.
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So there was that.
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Her first guess on the Birkin bags.
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Yes.
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Was a hundred.
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That's off.
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Not 100,000.
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Just 100.
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100.
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Yeah.
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I was closer than my wife on that one.
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There you
Listener Feedback on Podcast Length
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go.
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How did... Do you remember how Lisa did?
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Have you gotten to that episode?
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Yes.
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Yo, she had all sorts of... That was the one she had all sorts of feedback on.
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Oh, okay.
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Her...
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she gave a number that wasn't correct and then explained to me why it was correct.
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And so again, yeah, I may need to, uh, I may, we may need to have her on to explain that.
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Explain her thinking.
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Okay.
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Yes.
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Okay.
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Yeah.
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Well, we've, oh, we have, we have nothing but time, Lisa.
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Uh, and, and finally, uh, on the, uh, this was back to the, uh,
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This was back to the sports movies episode.
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Free solo.
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My Star Wars joke that I made about free solo.
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Amy just looks at me.
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You're such a dork.
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Yep.
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What else did we catch on any feedback that you got?
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Well, Greg texted us.
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Yes.
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And his feedback is so good that we have to share it.
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But I'm so disappointed in both of us.
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I'm not mad.
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I'm not mad.
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I'm just disappointed.
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Because Greg pointed out that whole milk, H-O-L-E,
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Well, that's what they use to make Swiss cheese.
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The band?
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The band had this joke?
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Where were you an hour ago?
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Also from David Batchelder from Toddler No.
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6, whole milk specifically for donut holes.
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Oh, yeah.
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The band had two jokes this week.
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Man.
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Just again, just to be clear, when I say I'm disappointed, I'm not disappointed in the toddlers.
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No, no, no.
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That's great.
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No, no, no.
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It's great.
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Yes.
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I'm disappointed in us.
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Oh, absolutely.
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I can't believe we didn't come up with that.
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Yes.
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Yeah.
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By the way, from Batchelder, last week's pod was the perfect length for his flight from O'Hare to Des Moines.
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Oh, good to know.
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He's flying to Barcelona in July.
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Okay.
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I'm pretty sure that's more than the recommended dosage.
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We're not doing an eight-hour podcast.
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That might be the politics one.
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Might be.
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David's like, no breaks, wear your diapers.
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Oh, let's see.
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What else did we get?
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Did we have any?
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Actually.
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Do we have any corrections this week?
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No, no.
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Clean week.
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Fantastic.
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But lots of follow up.
Curling Cheating Allegations Discussion
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Got a bit.
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Let's see the recap of Olympic stories that we missed.
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Okay.
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Peak talking to Todd during the women's cross country skiing, a wolf dog joined.
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Did you see this?
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I did.
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Just ran out on the course and then followed the course.
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Hey, are we skiing?
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Are we skiing?
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I won't ski.
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I'll follow you.
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I'm here.
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I'm here.
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Yep.
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I'm in.
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I'm right behind.
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Right behind.
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Where do you need?
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I came in third.
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Yeah.
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I was just, you know, it was just an honor to be in part of it though.
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We, we talked about the ski jumping cheaters on multiple occasions.
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Yes.
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We did not talk about the Canadian curling cheaters.
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Yeah.
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So here's something.
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This is like, here's speaking to Todd's world.
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So yes, I listened to a number of technology podcasts.
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One of the technology podcasts I listened to, a person who has been in the Mac news world for 30 years was the editor of Macworld magazine.
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Yeah.
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for the last four years, one of his hobbies, him and his wife go to their local curling club and they've learned how to curl.
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So they go two times a week and go curl in the Bay area.
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And so the tech podcast, people were asking him all sorts of questions about the Canadian cheaters.
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And he said, okay, all right, just, and I'm like, he's only been doing this for four years, but that's four more years than I am.
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So I'm just going
Curling Rules and Comparisons
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to listen to what he said.
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So, so here's what he said.
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Basically,
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you're not allowed, once you let go of the rock, you're not allowed to touch the rock again.
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If you watch, and so everybody was calling them cheaters.
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He's like, what they were doing was when they released it, their hands kind of came down and touched the rock.
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But it wasn't altering the path or anything.
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It was just like a weird release.
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He said, think of it, it's not cheating per se.
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Think of it in terms of like double faulting in tennis.
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If you step on the line when you serve, you're not cheating.
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There's a rule against it, and they can call it, but you're not technically cheating per se.
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It's just, it's a violation, but it's not like trying to get it.
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It's not like after they let it go, they took their hand and shoved it down, sent it down.
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Anyway, perspective from a technology curdling person.
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And I read that in a lot of curling leagues, you can do what he did, but specifically in the Olympics, you cannot.
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Well, you're not supposed to, but curling also doesn't have referees.
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It's call your own fouls.
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Right.
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Yes.
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It's rec league.
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Right, which is why then they said that they would have people watching it.
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They don't even have enough officials that they couldn't, they don't have four officials to watch every, all four of the sheets.
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Yeah.
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However, the person I listened to also said at the exact same time, the Canadian person also pointed out, there's also a rule that you, the opposing team is not supposed to be in the line of sight when you're throwing the rock.
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You're supposed to be off to the side.
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However, while he was touching the rock as he threw it, the opposing team was standing directly at the other end in his line of sight, which you're also not supposed to do according to the rules.
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And so his comment was, I'm not calling that.
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What are we even doing here?
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Well, there was a really big shouting match on the ice.
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There were some F-bombs.
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There were.
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Yes, there were.
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Yes.
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In addition to giving the finger, the guy also gave the finger.
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You know what would solve all this, though, in curling?
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They don't have enough.
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They don't have people to be umpires.
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You know what they're going to need?
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Obviously, they're going to have to get robot umps.
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Okay, so I also had follow-up on robot umpires, as long as we're there.
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Of course you did.
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Because of course I did.
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Because there was, well, there were a couple of things, but one of them was umpire Lance Barksdale on the movie.
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He had a bad day.
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What's that?
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He had a bad day, didn't he?
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He did.
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He did have a bad day.
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I mean, five of his calls in a row were overturned at one point.
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And then when he got one right, when they appealed and he got it right, the crowd goes crazy.
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His quote was, you haven't lived.
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Did you see this quote?
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I did not know.
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You haven't lived until a robot corrects your strike zone 10 times.
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It's like my wife watching me parallel park.
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Technically helpful, spiritually devastating.
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Good for Lance.
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Look at that.
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Hey, he's got a sense of humor.
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Way to go, Blue.
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at least when the AVS system corrects me, it doesn't also bring back, bring up a call that I missed back in 2019.
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Oh my God.
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That was fantastic.
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I mean, yeah, you got to have a sense of humor about this.
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Apparently he might be my new favorite umpire.
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I mean, apparently he can't, can't get balls and strikes right at all, but at least, I mean, at least he's given good quotes.
FIFA Pricing Controversy
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What did you bring for follow-up?
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A few weeks ago, we had a Dwayne Guessen number about parking for World Cup.
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Do you remember that?
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Yeah, I do remember that.
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Yeah.
00:14:39
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And remember, it was kind of ridiculously high, right?
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Like, the numbers are just insane.
00:14:45
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Yeah, it was stupid.
00:14:46
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Yeah, yeah.
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So FIFA obviously got wind of us talking about it and others talking about it.
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And so they addressed that problem.
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What do you think they did, by the way, just before I read this?
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With lots of people making fun of them for how high their parking prices are, what do you think FIFA did?
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My guess is they raised the prices.
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There you go.
00:15:07
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Yep, they did.
00:15:11
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Thank you.
00:15:12
Speaker
So parking that was going for $75 in November is now going for $175.
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They raised the prices of every parking spot across the board.
00:15:22
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The cheapest you can get is...
00:15:30
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If you want to go to Houston and see Cape Verde versus Saudi Arabia, you can park for $99.
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That's the only one under $100.
00:15:44
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When asked about it, FIFA pointed out that...
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they're using variable pricing for parking.
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So as demand goes up, pricing will go up.
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So pricing will continue to rise on parking.
00:16:00
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Also pointed out for accessible parking,
00:16:04
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Accessible parking at many of the stadiums is the exact same price as the regular parking.
00:16:11
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It just is in accessible spots, which again, are long distances away, up to a mile or more away from the stadium.
00:16:20
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So for instance, we talked about SoFi Stadium.
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parking passes at SoFi Stadium, away from SoFi, near SoFi, is $250 to $300.
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That is the same price for accessible parking.
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You just get to park in the accessible lots and then walk the mile.
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So there you go.
00:16:40
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FIFA is like, I hear that you think that we're charging too much.
00:16:45
Speaker
Hold my beer.
00:16:45
Speaker
No, wait, pay for my beer.
00:16:47
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I see you're $75, and now it's $175.
00:16:52
Speaker
Wow.
00:16:52
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Things are going well.
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Yep.
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Yep.
00:16:54
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Still got a couple of months though before the world cup.
00:16:55
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So this, we could get at least a couple more price increases in.
00:16:59
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Do you remember, you remember a couple of weeks ago, we taught you quiz me about the percentages of M&Ms.
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The color distribution, the color distribution of M&Ms.
00:17:13
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Yes.
00:17:14
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The color distribution of M&Ms.
00:17:15
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Yeah.
00:17:15
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I was very proud of that segment.
00:17:16
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Yeah.
00:17:16
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Yes.
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Yeah.
00:17:18
Speaker
So as I have been reffing this season,
00:17:21
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Quite often what we get, I mean, sometimes we get food when we're done, but sometimes we get food and snacks, including M&Ms.
00:17:31
Speaker
Yeah.
00:17:33
Speaker
So over the course of this season, I have gotten.
00:17:36
Speaker
You have a spreadsheet, don't you?
00:17:38
Speaker
Yes, I do.
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Okay.
00:17:41
Speaker
It was, I have gotten a fun size peanut.
00:17:46
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a 1.74 ounce bag of peanut M&Ms and a 1.69 ounce bag of plain M&Ms.
00:17:54
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And I'm here to report in follow-up that none of these numbers make any sense at all.
M&Ms Color Distribution Anecdotes
00:18:02
Speaker
None of your numbers or none of my numbers or none or any of the numbers?
00:18:06
Speaker
The numbers that you gave do not correlate in any way, shape or form to reality.
00:18:11
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That's what I'm here to tell you.
00:18:12
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Okay.
00:18:14
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Now on...
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On the fun-sized peanut, which is not fun at all, just for the record.
00:18:21
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I was going to say, at this point, with shrinkflation, a fun-sized package of M&Ms costs $7.94, and it contains one, one peanut M&M, and that's your fun size.
00:18:34
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There were eight.
00:18:36
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There were eight in the fun-sized bag.
00:18:38
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That's not fun.
00:18:39
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Eight peanut M&Ms is not fun.
00:18:42
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One red, no brown, no yellow, one green, two blues, and four oranges.
00:18:48
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The oranges exceeded the recommended dosage by 50%, and there were no browns or yellows.
00:18:56
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Meanwhile, in the 1.74-ounce peanut bag, there were still no brown M&Ms.
00:19:01
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I have yet to find a brown peanut M&M.
00:19:04
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4.2% were red, supposed to be 12%.
00:19:12
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29% were blue, supposed to be 23.
00:19:13
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20.8% were orange, also supposed to be 23, for those of you keeping track.
00:19:16
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On the plain ones, there were 56 M&Ms in the bag.
00:19:18
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19% red, supposed to be 13.
00:19:19
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7% brown, again, supposed to be 13.
00:19:20
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Yellow, 16%, supposed to be 14.
00:19:40
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The closest one was orange at 19.6%, and it was supposed to be 20.
00:19:45
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The closest we got over all of them was the orange.
00:19:50
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I can also report by percentage eaten,
00:19:54
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was 100% across the board.
00:19:56
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Oh, okay, good.
00:19:57
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Excellent.
00:19:59
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None of these numbers stopped me from eating any of the M&Ms, but I did want to report back that your numbers are bogus.
00:20:06
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It did slow you down, however.
00:20:08
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Oh, there's some great image.
00:20:09
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Hold on.
00:20:09
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I got to count and do a spreadsheet here.
00:20:11
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Hold on.
00:20:13
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Chomp, chomp, chomp.
00:20:14
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Wait.
00:20:14
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Oh, crap.
00:20:16
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Just threw off the experiment.
00:20:19
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In fact, I forgot to take pictures of the plane bag.
00:20:22
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I took pictures of the fun size and the regular peanut bag for documentation purposes, but I forgot to take pictures of the plane bag.
00:20:31
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I was too busy eating them.
00:20:33
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So anyway.
00:20:34
Speaker
You know, it feels to me like at the next ToddCon, what we're going to clearly have to do is hand out bags of M&Ms.
00:20:40
Speaker
And then do a comparison.
00:20:41
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And then everybody's going to have to do some data analysis for us.
00:20:46
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Sorry, data collection.
00:20:48
Speaker
Guess I'm going to Costco picking up the boxes of M&M's.
00:20:54
Speaker
How much do you think one of those double walled tumblers would hold an M&M's?
00:21:01
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We could do guess the number of M&Ms and then count the colors of M&Ms.
00:21:05
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And then guess the percentages.
00:21:07
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Yeah.
00:21:07
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Yeah.
00:21:08
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Yeah.
00:21:09
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Oh, my God.
00:21:10
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Okay.
00:21:10
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ToddCon4 is shaping.
00:21:12
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Did you know, by the way, I'm looking at the picture, at the poster that we all signed from ToddCon3, and I say we all?
00:21:21
Speaker
Yeah.
00:21:22
Speaker
Yeah.
00:21:23
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Except not all of us signed.
00:21:24
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Did you know you did not sign the poster?
00:21:28
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You did not sign the poster for Todd con three.
00:21:31
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How did I not do that?
00:21:32
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I don't know, but I'm, I'm looking at it.
00:21:36
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I've got it framed and hanging on my wall.
00:21:39
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Your name is nowhere on it.
00:21:42
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Other than, are you sure it says talking to Todd and it says Todd con was implied.
00:21:49
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Are you sure that mine isn't just 2% of the size of yours?
00:21:56
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You wrote it.
00:21:57
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There's a blank spot.
00:21:58
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You wrote it in disappearing ink, apparently.
00:22:02
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I don't know what you did.
00:22:02
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Well, that's an oversight.
00:22:05
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Okay.
00:22:05
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All right.
00:22:06
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Next time I'm in Des Moines, I guess I need to fix that.
00:22:08
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That means I'll have to break it out of the frame.
00:22:10
Speaker
Let's see.
00:22:11
Speaker
What else we got?
AI.com's Super Bowl Ad Skepticism
00:22:13
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Dwayne's never going to guess it.
00:22:14
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Who, me?
00:22:16
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Never, ever going to guess it.
00:22:17
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I don't know.
00:22:18
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No, Dwayne's never going to guess it.
00:22:19
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Yas, Queen?
00:22:20
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Never, ever going to guess it.
00:22:23
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That's right.
00:22:24
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That sound means it's time for America's favorite game.
00:22:27
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It's time for Dwayne guess a number.
00:22:30
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What do you got, Todd?
00:22:31
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Okay, this is a follow-up from an ad during the Super Bowl, which you didn't watch, but that's okay.
00:22:40
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It's...
00:22:42
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it wouldn't improve.
00:22:44
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This wouldn't improve your ability.
00:22:46
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This wouldn't improve your ability to get this number right anyway.
00:22:48
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Okay.
00:22:48
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I did watch some of the ads afterwards.
00:22:51
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Okay.
00:22:52
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Did you see an ad for a brand new company called AI.com?
00:22:57
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Did you see that?
00:22:58
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It was in the fourth quarter.
00:23:00
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No.
00:23:01
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Okay.
00:23:03
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This made a lot of, this made a lot of news reportedly because
00:23:09
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Insiders say they spent $85 million to put this ad in the fourth quarter.
00:23:18
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Now, I don't know where that money is coming from because most of the ads went for around $10 million for a 30-second spot.
00:23:29
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Right.
00:23:32
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A little cheaper if you bought a package or you put stuff on Peacock or during the Olympics.
00:23:37
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It could have been more.
00:23:38
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I'm going to say this.
00:23:40
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I don't believe the 85 million number at all, but it's what's reported.
00:23:44
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However, that's not the number I'm going to give you to answer or to guess because I just gave it to you.
00:23:51
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Also reported that the.
00:23:56
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This AI.com was founded by Crypto.com CEO and co-founder Chris Marzaleck.
00:24:05
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He had to go out and buy AI.com because he didn't have it.
00:24:09
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And you can't just go to GoDaddy or Hover and just go, hey, I want to buy AI.com for $9.99.
00:24:16
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He had to go buy the domain.
00:24:19
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This has been reported in many places.
00:24:22
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Dwayne, how much...
00:24:26
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Did the CEO of this new company supposedly have to pay to get AI.com, the domain?
00:24:41
Speaker
Wow.
00:24:43
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I don't know whether I should say this or not.
00:24:49
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My title at work is marketing events director.
00:24:54
Speaker
So it has marketing in the title?
00:24:56
Speaker
Yep.
00:24:58
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And our company owns bankruptcy.com.
00:25:04
Speaker
Wow.
00:25:07
Speaker
Okay.
00:25:07
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So you probably get some pitches for it.
00:25:09
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I get at least once a week, I get a pitch from somebody that's interested in buying that domain.
00:25:16
Speaker
Okay.
00:25:18
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So you might actually have an idea what a market might be.
00:25:21
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Which I promptly delete because I don't have anything to do with that part of the business at all.
00:25:27
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It's not even, nor do we have any interest in selling it, I don't think.
00:25:31
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But let's say $75 million.
00:25:41
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You seem dejected.
00:25:42
Speaker
How close did I get?
00:25:44
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Give yourself a bell.
00:25:48
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Reportedly, reportedly it went for $70 million.
00:25:55
Speaker
Wow.
00:25:56
Speaker
That's where most of the 85 came from, right?
00:26:00
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According to, no, no, no, no.
00:26:02
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According to stories, again, I don't buy all of these.
00:26:06
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The 70 million was to buy the AI.com domain and the 85 million was to run the Super Bowl spot.
00:26:15
Speaker
Again, don't believe it.
00:26:17
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I don't believe any of it.
00:26:18
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But apparently a man in Malaysia owned AI.com and has held on to it for a while.
00:26:24
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And finally somebody came and said, I'll give you 70 million.
00:26:27
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And they said, this, you, sir, are the one that I've been waiting for my entire life.
00:26:34
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Yeah.
00:26:35
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So there you go.
00:26:37
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All right.
00:26:37
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Hey, look at that.
00:26:38
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I guess I got a little too close to your area of expertise.
00:26:41
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If you picked out 75 million.
00:26:44
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Just pull the number out of the air.
00:26:46
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Look at me.
00:26:47
Speaker
How about that?
00:26:49
Speaker
Last week we did, last week we played Money or Nazis.
00:26:53
Speaker
Yes.
00:26:54
Speaker
And I lamented the fact that I did not have a theme on the board for that.
00:26:59
Speaker
Yes.
00:27:11
Speaker
There you go.
00:27:12
Speaker
Is that the, is that the sound that happens every time you open a door to a Tesla?
00:27:19
Speaker
I'm getting that confused.
00:27:21
Speaker
Sorry.
00:27:22
Speaker
It might be.
00:27:27
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Let's see what else do we had get we had we had one more thing under game time or the midway as we used to call it.
00:27:34
Speaker
What did you bring for guess the headline Todd?
00:27:36
Speaker
Yeah.
00:27:36
Speaker
Okay.
00:27:37
Speaker
Once again visual gags on an audio audio medium.
00:27:40
Speaker
Here we go.
00:27:41
Speaker
Dwayne I'm going to send you a picture that from Apple News and then I want you to guess the headline that accompanies this.
00:27:51
Speaker
Okay.
00:27:52
Speaker
And there we go.
00:27:59
Speaker
Okay, so this is under the travel section.
00:28:03
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Yep.
00:28:04
Speaker
And it's a picture of what looks like Air Canada, the tails of Air Canada jets.
00:28:12
Speaker
It is.
00:28:13
Speaker
Sitting gathered together on the tarmac somewhere.
00:28:16
Speaker
I don't recognize the skyline in the background, but I can clearly make out that these are Air Canada jets.
00:28:22
Speaker
Yes.
00:28:23
Speaker
I will tell you this, this headline does have to do with the airline industry.
00:28:30
Speaker
I'm going to spot you that.
00:28:32
Speaker
Okay.
00:28:33
Speaker
This story must be how many times NBA players don't dribble the ball and take extra steps.
00:28:44
Speaker
Is it, is it about that kind of traveling?
00:28:49
Speaker
Well, there goes your shot at roughing in the NBA.
00:28:50
Speaker
Okay.
00:28:52
Speaker
Oh, no, I wasn't going to call it.
00:28:54
Speaker
I still have a sham.
00:28:56
Speaker
Oh, yeah.
00:28:57
Speaker
Yeah, yeah.
00:28:58
Speaker
No, no.
00:29:00
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Good guess.
00:29:01
Speaker
Excellent guess, actually.
00:29:02
Speaker
However, this one is close enough that I think this might be one of the worst ones we've ever had because some of them are so stupid that they're completely, you're like, what even made you think about this?
00:29:14
Speaker
This one is close enough, but it says that maybe whoever's writing the headline needed a little bit more schooling.
00:29:24
Speaker
Chaos erupts at Mexican airports after death of drug lord El Mencho.
00:29:31
Speaker
And the only stock photo they could find is a photo of four Air Canada jets altogether.
00:29:39
Speaker
You know, maybe those four Air Canada jets were gathered in Mexico City.
00:29:46
Speaker
It's possible.
00:29:48
Speaker
Highly unlikely.
00:29:49
Speaker
But maybe.
00:29:51
Speaker
But probably not.
00:29:54
Speaker
Hey, does anybody have a picture of any Mexican airlines?
00:29:57
Speaker
How about Air Canada?
00:29:59
Speaker
Close enough.
00:29:59
Speaker
You know what?
00:30:00
Speaker
It's foreign and it's near us.
00:30:01
Speaker
That's just.
00:30:04
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Let's run with it.
00:30:05
Speaker
Wow.
00:30:06
Speaker
That's really some terrible, some terrible work at Apple.
00:30:10
Speaker
I've got I've actually I've got one for you on this front.
00:30:13
Speaker
Oh, OK.
00:30:15
Speaker
OK, so, Todd, I'm going to send you this headline.
00:30:18
Speaker
Yep.
00:30:20
Speaker
And you need to you need to tell me what the story is about.
00:30:24
Speaker
Nebraska football players signed petition asking for coaches resignation.
00:30:31
Speaker
Oh boy.
00:30:32
Speaker
Okay.
00:30:32
Speaker
All right.
00:30:34
Speaker
Let's think this through.
00:30:36
Speaker
Okay.
00:30:38
Speaker
Knowing full well this has to do with what I assume is college football for Nebraska football players.
00:30:46
Speaker
The problem is, is nothing I can come up with that is ludicrous is anywhere near the ludicrous stories that are coming out of college football today.
00:30:55
Speaker
Like, I don't – I mean –
00:30:58
Speaker
I'm going to say they signed a petition for his, for a, for coaches resign.
00:31:05
Speaker
Ooh, wait, is it even a football coach?
00:31:07
Speaker
Did they, did they sign, did they sign a petition for like the women's lacrosse coach to resign because she said, um, uh, Hey, we need like a buck 50 to run this program and we could use some money from the athletic department.
00:31:26
Speaker
No, no, no, you're not even close.
00:31:29
Speaker
Here.
00:31:33
Speaker
So this story is Dateline, Lincoln, Nebraska, January of 1954.
00:31:44
Speaker
But the headline, Nebraska football players signed petition asking for coaches' resignation.
00:31:49
Speaker
I'm like, oh my God, what did Matt do now?
00:31:51
Speaker
Is Scott Frost back?
00:31:53
Speaker
Is this a recent?
00:31:54
Speaker
No, this is not a recent story.
00:31:57
Speaker
This is a 75 year old story that they got me to click on by giving me that headline.
00:32:04
Speaker
I. Yeah.
00:32:07
Speaker
And, and for those kinds of shenanigans, Yahoo sports earns my idiot of the week.
00:32:13
Speaker
Yeah.
00:32:15
Speaker
I do find it interesting that they are saying, however, they would like Glassford to resign and they are asking for a Scott Frost to be hired.
00:32:27
Speaker
I don't think that's going to go well.
00:32:29
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I don't think he was even born in 1954.
00:32:31
Speaker
Yeah, well, I guess, you know, they were ahead of their times.
00:32:41
Speaker
They were also, if you notice in the article, they were playing in the big seven.
00:32:45
Speaker
Back then.
00:32:48
Speaker
Well, they couldn't have been playing in the Big Ten because the Big Ten didn't exist until the mid-80s.
00:32:52
Speaker
So... Yeah, yeah.
00:32:57
Speaker
I'm just... I'm more... I'm just watching here.
00:32:59
Speaker
I'm just reading how the Baltimore Colts...
00:33:03
Speaker
Oh my goodness.
00:33:03
Speaker
Here's how old, here's how old this story is.
00:33:06
Speaker
Here's another story on the sports page.
00:33:08
Speaker
The Baltimore Colts who make no bones about wanting to be national football league contenders like Cleveland.
00:33:20
Speaker
Oh, it's like a parallel universe.
00:33:26
Speaker
Okay.
00:33:28
Speaker
Jeez.
00:33:30
Speaker
Okay, so that was your idiot of the week?
00:33:32
Speaker
That was my idiot of the week.
00:33:35
Speaker
I didn't originally intend for it to be my idiot of the week.
00:33:39
Speaker
I had a different one, but I thought it segued so nicely from your headline story right into the Scott Frost idiot of the week.
00:33:47
Speaker
Yeah, yeah.
00:33:50
Speaker
My idiot of the week, we've already discussed.
00:33:52
Speaker
It is AI.com.
00:33:54
Speaker
So not because they paid $70 million for a domain and not because they supposedly paid $85 million for a commercial that should have cost them $10 million.
00:34:05
Speaker
The reason why they're my idiot of the week is after they spent supposedly $85 million to get people to come to their webpage.
00:34:14
Speaker
Hey, Dwayne, go ahead and go to, open up a browser window, just go to AI.com.
00:34:20
Speaker
Nobody else do this.
00:34:21
Speaker
Just, just Dwayne.
00:34:23
Speaker
Um,
00:34:24
Speaker
They need to go to private browsing.
00:34:26
Speaker
Should I know that?
00:34:27
Speaker
No, no, no, no, no.
00:34:28
Speaker
That's it's fine.
00:34:29
Speaker
Claim your handle.
00:34:31
Speaker
Launch your A.I.
00:34:33
Speaker
Yeah.
00:34:34
Speaker
Click on like the menu or see what else is there.
00:34:37
Speaker
I can sign up and I can log in.
00:34:40
Speaker
That's it.
00:34:41
Speaker
Yes.
00:34:41
Speaker
Yeah.
00:34:42
Speaker
Yes.
00:34:43
Speaker
According to the company's press release, with a few clicks, anyone can now generate a private personal AI agent that just doesn't have answers but actually operates on the user's behalf.
00:34:52
Speaker
Organizing work, sending messages, executing actions across apps, building projects, and more.
00:34:57
Speaker
Here's the thing.
00:34:59
Speaker
When people after the Super Bowl ad, and this was a few weeks ago and they haven't changed it, right?
00:35:03
Speaker
You go to the site.
00:35:04
Speaker
The only thing that you can do is claim your handle because you're going to want your name.
00:35:10
Speaker
In order to do that, you have to enter your full credit card information to, quote, prove you are human.
00:35:18
Speaker
Screw that.
00:35:22
Speaker
No, thank you.
00:35:23
Speaker
And that's it.
00:35:24
Speaker
Down in the bottom corner, it still says beta.
00:35:27
Speaker
Yeah, that's it.
00:35:29
Speaker
After you enter, people were then given a message that said, thank you for submitting.
00:35:34
Speaker
We'll get back to you.
00:35:36
Speaker
Please give us your credit card information.
00:35:38
Speaker
Bye-bye.
00:35:42
Speaker
But who's the idiot?
00:35:45
Speaker
Well, a number of people have pointed out, I guess this is how they're getting their $85 million back from the Super Bowl ad.
00:35:53
Speaker
Oops.
00:35:55
Speaker
Now, I will point out that this was first published in Fast Company the night of the Super Bowl on February 9th.
00:36:05
Speaker
And it pointed out that users will soon be able to deploy their agents.
00:36:10
Speaker
It is now...
00:36:13
Speaker
the 26th and none of that has happened yet checks notes yeah um so here's the thing sometimes we're like i don't know who the idiot is here okay here's here's the whole thing right hey come and sign to it come to our website and just give us your credit card idiot also idiot sure gotta gotta get my handle i'm sure they're on the up and up
00:36:40
Speaker
Anyway, by the way, if any of toddlers have already signed up for AI.com, please let us know how that's
Meta's AI Safety and Email Issues
00:36:46
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going.
00:36:46
Speaker
Just, that'd be great.
00:36:49
Speaker
Everything's fine in AI land.
00:36:50
Speaker
Everything is fine.
00:36:51
Speaker
It's not a bubble.
00:36:52
Speaker
It's fine.
00:36:56
Speaker
Speaking of AI, did you see the story about Summer U, Meta's head of AI safety?
00:37:06
Speaker
No, I did not.
00:37:08
Speaker
So she gave open claw access to her personal email inbox.
00:37:16
Speaker
Don't do that.
00:37:20
Speaker
And let it try to help her clean things up.
00:37:25
Speaker
Yeah.
00:37:27
Speaker
So her original prompt was,
00:37:32
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was check this inbox too and suggest what you would archive or delete.
00:37:39
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Don't action until I tell you to.
00:37:43
Speaker
This has apparently been working well for her toy inbox, but her real inbox was too huge and triggered compaction.
00:37:53
Speaker
And it started to delete everything in her inbox older than February 15th.
00:38:01
Speaker
And she writes, do not do that.
00:38:04
Speaker
Check how many left.
00:38:05
Speaker
More old stuff.
00:38:06
Speaker
Get the remaining preferences.
00:38:08
Speaker
And she writes, stop, don't do anything.
00:38:10
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Google Gmail search.
00:38:12
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Nuke all remaining stuff.
00:38:13
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Nuke all remaining stuff.
00:38:15
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Nuke, keep looping until we clear everything.
00:38:17
Speaker
And she writes, stop open claw in all caps, which is not helping.
00:38:24
Speaker
And it writes back at one point, don't go on extended autonomous cleanup runs.
00:38:31
Speaker
Check, what do you need?
00:38:33
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And she wrote back to the AI, I asked you not to action on anything until I approve.
00:38:39
Speaker
Do you remember that?
00:38:40
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It seems you were deleting my emails without my approval and I couldn't get you to stop until I killed all the processes.
00:38:47
Speaker
And the AI responds, yes, I remember and I violated it.
00:38:55
Speaker
You're right to be upset.
00:39:00
Speaker
I'm sorry, Dave.
00:39:02
Speaker
I can't do that right now.
00:39:05
Speaker
I bulk trashed and archived hundreds of emails from you without showing you the plan first.
00:39:10
Speaker
That was wrong.
00:39:11
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It directly broke the rule you'd set.
00:39:13
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I feel so good about AI right now.
00:39:16
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I just have to say.
00:39:17
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And it says at the end, I'm sorry, it won't happen again.
00:39:25
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Now, multiple experts, and I'm using experts in quotes here,
00:39:31
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on this thread commented about how she gave it a command much like clinger was giving commands in mash when they were disarming the bomb cut the red wire but first right here's the command
00:39:55
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Execute the command, but first show me what you're gonna do.
00:39:59
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It ignored the second part, did the first part, and then she's wondering what went wrong.
00:40:05
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Also, just as a quick reminder, she is Meta's head of AI safety.
00:40:14
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I'll just throw this out.
00:40:16
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I find this, well, a couple of things.
00:40:19
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One, just first.
00:40:20
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The floor is yours, please.
00:40:23
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I find it astonishing that people who talk about how AI is transformational and is going to take all of our jobs, and then you say, here's the command, clean up my email, but don't take any action until I tell you.
00:40:38
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And they say, well, that was your fault because it can't possibly be smart enough to understand two sentences put together.
00:40:45
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And you're like, I thought this thing was supposed to be artificial intelligence.
00:40:48
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No, no, no, no, no.
00:40:49
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You got to be real specific with it.
00:40:53
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But then how is this artificial intelligence?
00:40:56
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Oh, it can do everything except follow directions?
00:40:58
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Well, you have to talk to it in the right.
00:41:00
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It's like, oh my God, it's a toddler, right?
00:41:03
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Running with scissors.
00:41:04
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Okay.
00:41:06
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Second thing.
00:41:08
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Before what's the, what's the line before we master artificial intelligence, we need to deal with real stupidity.
00:41:17
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You know, and this, this part is depressing as hell, but I'm going to share it anyway, because I was, I think it was a podcast and somebody said, you know, I love, I love science fiction and you watch all of this and you think, and maybe I've shared this already on here.
00:41:30
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You see the matrix and you're like, yeah, but how could the robots have made all of these, the factories to put the people in and,
00:41:37
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Like how in Terminator could Skynet have been built?
00:41:40
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Like, you know, and what would have caused the climate catastrophe that would have predated?
00:41:46
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Like wouldn't if people have known that this was all happening?
00:41:49
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Like we just get dropped into these worlds.
00:41:52
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And then people are like, and then you're looking around and it's like, hey, listen, you know what a good idea would be is?
00:41:56
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We should take every bit of resource we have on this planet and we should pump it into data centers to build up the stupid computers to let them take over.
00:42:04
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And you're like, oh.
00:42:06
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This is how it happens.
00:42:09
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We're here.
00:42:10
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This is, yep, it's cute when it says, when you say clean up the email, but don't take action.
00:42:17
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It says, yep, broke the rules.
00:42:19
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You're right to be mad at me.
00:42:22
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Then you flip the page and you're like, oh, cool, cool, cool, cool.
00:42:25
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We've also given some of the autonomous drones some guns.
00:42:30
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Do they respond any better to the, you know what?
00:42:33
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I'm just, that's fine.
00:42:34
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That's cool.
00:42:36
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Anyway, this is all going good.
00:42:37
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I think things are great.
00:42:39
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You probably want to give AI.com your email or your credit card.
00:42:43
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It probably already has it anyway.
00:42:44
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So, you know, might as well just, yeah, just, just say, here you go.
00:42:49
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Ah, okay.
00:42:50
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We get, we gotta, we gotta do something else.
00:42:51
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Cause yeah, this is, this, it's all fun, right?
00:42:54
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Until you're, until all of your email gets deleted.
00:42:57
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Then you're like, oh, that was on you.
00:42:58
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Yeah, it was.
00:43:00
Speaker
How was your trip to New York City?
00:43:04
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Speaking of climate.
00:43:05
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Do you have any travel stories for us?
Travel Story During New York Snowstorm
00:43:07
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Yeah.
00:43:08
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Yeah.
00:43:09
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So here's something fun.
00:43:11
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So we were scheduled to leave last Friday about 530, Friday night.
00:43:16
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So after work, get on a plane, fly to Newark.
00:43:20
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Lovely place.
00:43:21
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Lovely, lovely place.
00:43:23
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Garden State.
00:43:24
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Garden State.
00:43:29
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And then we had all day Saturday in New York.
00:43:32
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We're going to see Operation Mincemeat Saturday night.
00:43:35
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And then we had a flight out Sunday out of Newark at 6.40 p.m.
00:43:41
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So we were going to have, you know, morning, early afternoon.
00:43:45
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We've been tracking everybody leading up to this trip.
00:43:48
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There was some concerns about, hey, by the way, there might be a snowstorm or maybe not.
00:43:53
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I don't know.
00:43:54
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And so people were like, it might get close.
00:43:56
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And Lisa and I literally were doing this for the three days leading up to the trip.
00:44:00
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Do we bring our work computers or do we not?
00:44:02
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Because if we get stuck there, we could at least work from the hotel.
00:44:06
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And Friday at noon, 1 o'clock, we were like, you know what?
00:44:11
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We're not bringing our work computers.
00:44:13
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Great.
00:44:14
Speaker
Get on the plane.
00:44:15
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It's a five-hour flight, whatever.
00:44:18
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An hour and a half before we land, start getting notifications from Delta.
00:44:22
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Oh, hey, by the way, due to the severe weather anticipated, you can get change waivers.
00:44:29
Speaker
Wait, what happened?
00:44:29
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The last three hours I've been on the, oh, it's going to be a direct hit, the worst snowstorm in a decade hitting New York City.
00:44:38
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All right.
00:44:39
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Lisa and I are sitting next to each other, and I show her this.
00:44:44
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And the noise cancellation headphones come off.
00:44:50
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And she's like, I'll start texting Delta right now.
00:44:55
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And she's like, I wonder what the 7 a.m.
00:44:57
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is the only other direct flight out.
00:44:58
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I'd already found the direct flight out to get us on.
00:45:02
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She's like, okay.
00:45:04
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So I'm trying to rebook us on the web.
00:45:06
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She's texting Delta while we're in the air.
00:45:08
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Fun fact, Delta can't help you while you're on the plane because we're on the outbound leg.
00:45:14
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We have to complete the outbound leg before they can change the return leg.
00:45:18
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Oh God.
00:45:20
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So I can't do anything.
00:45:21
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She gets somebody from Delta.
00:45:22
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They basically say, I've got you all set.
00:45:24
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We'll put you on the 7am flight out of Newark.
00:45:27
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But when you land, you have to call us because we have to take at you.
00:45:31
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Okay, fine.
00:45:32
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Well, by the time we land and then we wait for the shuttle bus, by the way, New York, just what did you know?
00:45:38
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Hey, New York, why did you think that ripping up all three of your airports at the exact same time was a good idea?
00:45:47
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Anyway, we've got to wait for the shuttle bus to take us to the tram parking lot, to the hotel parking lot, to get to the hotel.
00:45:52
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We got to the hotel at like 1.30 in the morning.
00:45:54
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Okay, fine.
00:45:55
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Lisa's like, hey, we got seats.
00:45:57
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We're all good.
00:45:57
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Perfect.
00:45:59
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In the morning, she goes to check in the flight.
00:46:01
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Turns out we had to call.
00:46:02
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Anyway, we got seats on a 7 a.m.
00:46:03
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flight.
00:46:04
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So now we are going to be leaving at 7 a.m.
00:46:08
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from Newark.
00:46:09
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So Saturday, we walk around.
00:46:10
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It's a lovely day.
00:46:12
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It's very nice.
00:46:12
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55 degrees, walk up down Fifth Avenue, go to Central Park, go past Rockefeller Center, go see the Fifth Avenue Apple Store, go eat at a diner, go see some other things.
00:46:23
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That's great.
00:46:23
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We go see Operation Mincemeat.
00:46:25
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Absolutely loved it.
00:46:25
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Just excellent.
00:46:28
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and then wake up at 4.30 in the morning to take an incredibly affordable ride out to Newark.
00:46:38
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I believe that was $144 plus taxes, plus tip.
00:46:45
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Thanks to the doorman at the West End for saying, oh, don't use a taxi.
00:46:49
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I'll get you a car.
00:46:51
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Anyway, that's cool.
00:46:52
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That's fine.
00:46:53
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Also, just fun fact at this time, we have also been told that TSA pre-check is going to be shut down at 6 a.m.
00:47:02
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Oh, right.
00:47:02
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Because of the federal government.
00:47:04
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Yes.
00:47:04
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Because of staffing issues.
00:47:06
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And we're like staffing issues.
00:47:09
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Get rid of the line that doesn't do as much inspection to anyway, whatever.
00:47:14
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So we get to the airport at like 520.
00:47:17
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Yeah.
00:47:19
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to get through the TSA line, which was a complete mess.
00:47:23
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Anyway, not a problem.
00:47:24
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We get in the Sky Club, get on the plane, depart.
00:47:27
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We landed back in Salt Lake at like 10 a.m.
00:47:30
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We were there.
00:47:31
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Our entire trip from takeoff to landing was like 40 hours.
00:47:37
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Had a great time on Saturday.
00:47:39
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Including the 10 hours you spent in the plane.
00:47:42
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10 hours in the plane and two nights in a hotel was 40 hours.
00:47:47
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Wow.
00:47:48
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That was the trip.
00:47:50
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Do you remember the Ebert rule about you have to be on the ground awake for longer than it took you to get there?
00:47:59
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Yes.
00:48:01
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We did exceed that.
00:48:03
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Okay.
00:48:04
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We did.
00:48:05
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But not by much.
00:48:06
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Not by much.
00:48:08
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Huh.
00:48:12
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But we did.
00:48:13
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I mean, yeah.
00:48:14
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I mean, you know, we got a lot of the New Yorkers.
00:48:17
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:48:18
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So anyway, yeah.
00:48:20
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Anyway, that was our trip.
00:48:21
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We lost some time.
00:48:23
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There was a conversation about, man, it sucks that we're leaving like 12 hours early.
00:48:27
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On the other hand, if there's a snowstorm, it's not like we were going to be just traipsing around Tribeca.
00:48:33
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seeing the sights in what what was turned out to be the first time in more than in first time since 2017 that all five boroughs of new york city were under a blizzard warning at the same time so anyway that was the trip we got there we got back and and we got to see the thing that we wanted to see so anyway not not how we planned it but we we didn't get stuck that's the key we didn't
00:48:58
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We spent less time, which wasn't great, but what we didn't want to do was spend more time than we planned.
00:49:05
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That was less good.
00:49:09
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That seems fair.
00:49:12
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Which, by the way, leads into what we're watching, Operation Mincemeat.
00:49:15
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So because of that, I'd said their last show was going to be the... We thought we were going to go to the penultimate show, Saturday night.
00:49:24
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Then they had a matinee on Sunday.
00:49:26
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It was supposed to be their last show.
00:49:28
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That sold out, so they added a show Sunday night.
00:49:31
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But because of the blizzard...
00:49:33
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That got canceled.
00:49:35
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So they did the show, the matinee.
00:49:37
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So we did see the penultimate.
00:49:39
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This was Lisa's one time of being able to see all five cast members.
00:49:43
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Seeing Jack is the one that she had missed before.
00:49:47
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And a couple of things, just real quick.
00:49:51
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He's really good.
00:49:53
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I mean, he's, he's really, he, he won the Tony and the BAFTA and, and you're like, Oh, Oh, Oh, I see.
00:50:00
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He's really good for a reason.
00:50:03
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Yep.
00:50:05
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At the end of dear bill, he turns around and then they had to hold that for almost a minute for a standing ovation in the middle of the show for that song.
00:50:15
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Yep.
00:50:16
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Also fun fact, a little bit later in the show,
00:50:22
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I'm going to tell you this.
00:50:23
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We don't have to use the other theme, but a little bit later in the show, there's a line.
00:50:28
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They're talking about, Chumlee's talking about how they just, you don't do things.
00:50:33
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And Jean says, if we're basically, what does she say?
00:50:41
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If we're just following orders, we don't have to worry about the fascists breaking down the door because the fascists have already won.
00:50:49
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Right.
00:50:49
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From World War II.
00:50:51
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Right.
00:50:52
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Had to stop the show for the rounds of applause going through the New York theater.
00:51:01
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And I'm thinking, man, there's a lot of World War II buffs.
00:51:04
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Oh.
00:51:05
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Oh.
00:51:06
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Oh, you're not.
00:51:08
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Oh.
00:51:09
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That's, yeah.
00:51:11
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Does that have something to do with today?
00:51:13
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Anyway, crowds in Broadway shows.
00:51:17
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They get it.
00:51:18
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They get it.
00:51:19
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How about you?
00:51:20
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What are you watching?
00:51:21
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So Amy and I made our way all the way through all seven seasons of the West Wing.
00:51:28
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Excellent.
00:51:30
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I don't remember why.
00:51:33
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We thought we didn't like seasons five, six and seven.
00:51:36
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Not as uneven as I remembered them.
00:51:41
Speaker
I've not watched this.
00:51:43
Speaker
I've probably not watched this all the way through and in several years.
00:51:47
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I've watched seasons one through four multiple times and then would get distracted or whatever.
00:51:54
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It is really good.
00:51:56
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But there was one point in either, I think it was season seven, that I paused the screen and took a picture.
00:52:07
Speaker
And this is now the third time in the same episode that we're going to do What the Toddlers Love so that I can send you this.
00:52:18
Speaker
Wait, what?
00:52:20
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Right?
00:52:22
Speaker
So this is the closed captioning you've turned on, right?
00:52:25
Speaker
I've turned on the closed captioning.
00:52:27
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And it says in the stump speech, I'm assuming, he wants Hal Weller to weigh in on the Israel section.
00:52:39
Speaker
Yes.
00:52:40
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And I'm like, the diplomat and the West Wing are in the same universe.
00:52:46
Speaker
But they can't be.
00:52:47
Speaker
They're in the same universe, but they can't be.
00:52:52
Speaker
Because the guy who is potentially saying that line...
00:52:56
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is also the first husband.
00:52:59
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Eventually married to the president who was played by CJ Craig's actress.
00:53:05
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Yes.
00:53:06
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The whole thing is, yeah, I don't know.
00:53:08
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Anyway, or just similarities in terms of how people look.
00:53:11
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It's just really weird.
00:53:13
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But yeah, we went, I, I went, I, I lost it.
00:53:17
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On the other hand, the showrunner of The Diplomat was a writer and producer on the West Wing.
00:53:22
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So maybe that was just a name that was written down in a book someplace.
00:53:25
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It was a nice callback.
00:53:29
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And I went, oh my God, this is awesome.
00:53:31
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So I got to grab this and share with Todd.
00:53:34
Speaker
So yeah, so that's what we're watching.
00:53:37
Speaker
Did you learn anything this week?
Reflections on Travel Decision-Making
00:53:39
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Yeah, yeah.
00:53:40
Speaker
Back to the travel story.
00:53:41
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So after we make this decision and we fly back home,
00:53:46
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I'm not proud of this, but we continued to watch the cancellations at Newark and we watched the New York City news.
00:53:55
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Now, partially because when we were in New York, all the news was like, this is going to be terrible, up to two feet of snow.
00:54:01
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They were having states of emergency.
00:54:03
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The governor was talking.
00:54:04
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I mean, everybody, like it was just, they were running out of shovels because everybody was going to buy shovels and it was just going to be terrible.
00:54:10
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So we saw all of this.
00:54:11
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So it was like, oh, I wonder how this is going to turn out.
00:54:13
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But we were also keeping track of the flight that we were on.
00:54:18
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And after everything else, the flight we were supposed to be on on Sunday night, and for reasons that I don't understand, after every single flight had been canceled out of Newark, after about 4 p.m., one flight was still scheduled.
00:54:32
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That was the flight that we were supposed to be on.
00:54:34
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Delta was like, we're not canceling this thing.
00:54:36
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We're going to hold to it.
00:54:37
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And the entire time I'm watching them, we're like, oh, the snow's getting deeper.
00:54:41
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Oh, we made the right decision, right?
00:54:43
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And then our flight is like, I think our flight's going to go.
00:54:45
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And we're like, did we make a mistake?
00:54:47
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I don't know, we probably didn't.
00:54:49
Speaker
And then it gets delayed.
00:54:51
Speaker
And they do the Delta shuffle.
00:54:52
Speaker
Your flight's now delayed 30 minutes.
00:54:55
Speaker
Your flight's now delayed 30 minutes.
00:54:57
Speaker
Your flight's now delayed another 30 minutes.
00:54:59
Speaker
So it was supposed to go at 640.
00:55:04
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At 1015, they finally canceled the flight.
00:55:08
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At which point we both did, we made the right decision.
00:55:12
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But just to validate then, we looked on Monday, both direct flights from New York to Salt Lake City were both canceled.
00:55:20
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Yes, that even, because we wouldn't be getting home.
00:55:23
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And then the Tuesday morning flight,
00:55:25
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yes, that flight's canceled as well.
00:55:27
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Look how good we are.
00:55:28
Speaker
And I'm like, we're cheering for people to be stuck and have their flights canceled.
00:55:34
Speaker
Should we be?
00:55:36
Speaker
No, no, we shouldn't be doing this.
00:55:38
Speaker
Are we?
00:55:39
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Oh, yes, we are.
00:55:42
Speaker
Between, Todd, between LaGuardia, JFK, Newark, and Philly,
00:55:50
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The airlines combined canceled more than 5,000 flights due to this snowstorm.
00:55:56
Speaker
Yes.
00:55:57
Speaker
Do you know how I know that number?
00:55:58
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Were you trying to get to one of those airports?
00:56:03
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Well, because on Tuesday, Amy was supposed to fly home from Fort Myers.
00:56:12
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Oh, that's right.
00:56:14
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Through LaGuardia.
00:56:15
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LaGuardia.
00:56:17
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And on Friday and Saturday, Amy and I are talking and like, should we look at moving it?
00:56:25
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I don't know.
00:56:26
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No, I don't think it's going to be that bad.
00:56:28
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Maybe we should nap.
00:56:29
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Let's just let's just wait.
00:56:30
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Let's just wait until.
00:56:32
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Oh, crap.
00:56:33
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Then on Sunday, they started granting waivers.
00:56:37
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And we're like, okay, your flight is definitely not going to go.
00:56:41
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We're going to need to figure out how to route you somewhere else.
00:56:45
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Through Phoenix.
00:56:46
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And so actually I had her routed and there was nothing on Tuesday.
00:56:51
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There were no options for her to fly at all and get home on Tuesday from Fort Myers to Des Moines and stay on Delta.
00:56:59
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But on Wednesday, I
00:57:02
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I could get her from Fort Myers to Detroit and then Detroit to Des Moines, but there was only a 30 minute layover, but it was the only thing we could find.
00:57:13
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So bam, booked her on that.
00:57:16
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And then I started looking and traditionally the incoming flight is on the A concourse and the outgoing flight is on the C concourse.
00:57:24
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And she's still only got 30 minutes and the doors closed 20 minutes before.
00:57:29
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And if there's any delay at all, she's going to be screwed.
00:57:34
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but it's what she's got and so she's locked in.
00:57:37
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So then on Monday morning, Amy texts me, hey, I was checking Delta and there are seats available on a Tuesday afternoon flight that routes me through Minneapolis.
00:57:49
Speaker
Can you see what you can do?
00:57:51
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So I get on my gold line special number, which is the only thing I absolutely care about with status.
00:57:58
Speaker
The upgrades, fine, whatever.
00:58:00
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I don't care.
00:58:01
Speaker
Honestly, I do not care.
00:58:02
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You know what I care about?
00:58:04
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I care about the phone number.
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The phone number is the thing that matters.
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So I get on the phone with a gold line support.
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I'm not platinum.
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I'm not titanium.
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I know I'm not any of those things, but I'm ahead of the I'm ahead of the silver and the unwashed masses.
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I only had to wait 12 minutes to talk to somebody, which I felt was a miracle.
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And then they got her on the Tuesday flight and she got home when she was supposed to.
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But we had our own little travel nightmare going on trying to get Amy home from Fort Myers this week.
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which wasn't actually the thing that I learned.
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I told you that story to tell you this one.
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I told you that story to tell you a different one, but the thing that I learned, do you, do you buy Barilla pasta?
00:58:54
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Um, we have some don't, we have some.
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Yeah.
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Occasionally not on the regular.
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Yeah.
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The thing that I learned this week was that Barilla has created Spotify playlists,
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You know, a couple of years ago, I would have said, wait, what?
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And now I just go, sure, that combination of words makes sense.
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So if you need to cook linguine, they have created a playlist that is exactly 10 minutes long.
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If you want to cook spaghetti, that's a nine-minute playlist.
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Penny, 10-minute playlist.
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How about Fusilli?
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That's 11 minutes.
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We've got that.
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Wait, you don't like the spaghetti top hits playlist that we constructed?
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Here's a mixtape spaghetti playlist.
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Thank you, Barilla.
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Absolutely doing the Lord's work.
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Here's the other thing that I learned after I stumbled across this.
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Many people don't like the playlists that Barilla created.
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And then they have now created their own knockoff Barilla playlists.
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Kid you not.
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How long does it take to cook carbonara?
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I don't know.
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Find the playlist.
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19 minutes.
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Music is Happy Boy by Kevin MacLeod.
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01:01:05
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Todd?
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Hey, Todd, how did you make your pasta playlist?
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I don't know.
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I took a bunch of songs and just threw them against the wall and saw what stuck.
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Sure.
01:01:16
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Sure.
01:01:16
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Why not?
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You know what?
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You know what I typically say at this point?
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What's that?
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I guess we'll have to clean that up next week.
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Until then, we're talking to Todd.
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Thank you.
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The other thing I was going to say and what I learned, and it was very simple, what we learned, or this is what we relearned was, oh, hey, we might have a travel disruption.
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What we learned is, like...
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we immediately were like, do we need to change?
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We need to change.
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That was a 30-second conversation about do we need to change?
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Because we both fully understood that while we were sitting there going, I don't know, should we change or not?
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There are hundreds or thousands of people, people flying from Florida who might want one of these seats on our flights.
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And the faster we make a decision, the faster, the more likelihood that we are going to get seats.
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So the thing was, it's like, look, we're going to make a decision and we're going to stick with it.
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And if we need to change, do it now.
01:02:47
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Oh, but I mean, not everybody coming from Florida, just the other people coming from Florida.
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Sorry if we took some seats.
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Sorry about that.
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At one point, I'm on the phone with Delta and I'm texting with Amy to try to get it sorted out.
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And she's like, are you on the phone with Delta?
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I'm like, yes, I need a decision now.
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Sorry.
01:03:17
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Wednesday, Monday, when are we?
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Because it's not Tuesday, but maybe I can get you home Monday or maybe I need a decision now.
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Yes.