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Ep. 316 - The Thumb Button
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Ep. 316, Recorded 3/18/2026. Feedback aplenty. Another acid trip. Tech on demand. A bridge too far. Weapons of Mass Distraction. More Chelsea Shenanigans. Lisa may have ESP. What’s Todd’s Eating? All I got was this free shirt.
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00:00:01
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Okay, yeah, this is where it generally all goes pear-shaped. Oh, we've already gotten that out of the out of the way. That was the last 20 minutes. Normally, everything's working until we hit record. This time, everything went all pear-shaped before we hit record. So either we got it all out of the way early or things are going to get even worse than they were before. Either way, it's fine. I'm sure it's fine.
00:00:25
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How long have we been doing this? Six years. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Actually we're going to release this on Friday.
00:00:36
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Six years ago, March 20th was episode number two where we rebooted the podcast after the 13 year hiatus or whatever we took.
00:00:48
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No, it just took us a while to, it's not rebooted. We just, we workshopped it. Took a while for the pilot to be picked up. Okay. Yeah.
00:00:58
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lovell's Levels, levels? Levels, levels. Yeah, none of this works for me. Okay, let's do this. Hey, after all of that, are you are you sure you still want to do this tonight?
00:01:12
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Yeah, yeah so I started at 3.30 this morning to get to the airport, and now it's almost 10 o'clock out here. Uh, yeah, that's right. Oh crap. That's you're in Atlanta. So, so wait, are we starting late because you went to magic city?
00:01:31
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No, no, I absolutely did not do that. Still. Okay. Not sure i believe you, but whatever. um Are you, are you, do you still, do you still want to do this?
00:01:43
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Yeah. i I, mean, why not? The ones where I'm kind of punchy or some of the best ones.
00:01:50
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best? Buckle up, toddlers. Hi, toddlers.
00:02:17
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Welcome to Talking to Todd, a weekly podcast with Dwayne Johnson and Todd Prins, where failure is always an option. Scripts. Scripts are apparently also an option if I would just read them. Thanks for joining us. Hey, Todd.
00:02:29
Speaker
Hey, how's it going? Again. It's been a long day. Yeah. no How are you? i'm doing I'm doing great. I'm doing great. Look, you didn't miss anything in the cold open. i was I was mostly just, I was looking at your nice hotel room there in Atlanta, and I'm like, wait, is that a bucket of lemon pepper wings back behind you?
00:02:51
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Are you you sure you didn't go to Magic City?
00:02:56
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Magic City came to, no, no, no. yo I hear, oh, to your hotel room. I hear you have pay extra for that. Anyway.
00:03:07
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Okay. Well, enough of that. No, we're not done with this. No. Because in in feedback, follow-up, and updates from from greg from Greg High, Greg, oh, you're going to Atlanta.
00:03:22
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You should go to Magic City. For the wings. And he sent us that before we got to the Magic City section of last week's episode.
00:03:34
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Greg, is there something you need to tell us? Apparently so. For the wings. For the wings. For the wings. For the wings. Also, Greg may get a toddy this year for best wingman.
00:03:49
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um for a variety Hey, Dwayne. No, no, no. Oh, i'm not I'm not going, but Greg suggested I went. I go. So, you know, he wouldn't stare me wrong.
00:04:01
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That was not the only feedback, though, that Greg had, right? No. how on How on earth is the show title not those humps are plump?
00:04:12
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Yeah. Yeah. on the On the edit listen, I did catch that and went, oh, it was it was definitely on the list, Greg. Not going to lie.
00:04:25
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Let's see. From toddler number six. but Wait, share Sherry also had something, though, as well, in the same household.
00:04:35
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Oh, you're right. It was apparently talking to Todd Week on the New York Crossword Puzzle There was a clue Sherry sent us that the answer to one of the one of the entries yesterday, two days ago, yeah was way was Waymo.
00:04:54
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Yeah, the the clue was Silicon Valley Company that operates a fleet of robots. Five-letter answer. That would be Waymo. but it was But there was also earlier this week, the andt one of the answers was trains.
00:05:11
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Yes. another apple another apple Another answer was Apple? Yes. Yeah, it's apparently they're channeling Talking to Todd over at the New York Times crossword department.
00:05:23
Speaker
Hey, shout out to Will Shorts and the gang for listening. Sure. That's... yes it Sure. they You know what? they they need They need the publicity. You know, that that scrappy little startup, the New York Times puzzle section.
00:05:40
Speaker
Speaking speaking of scrappy speaking of scrappy little startups, do you see yes dan Danny's getting a new Lego set? woof Boy, is he. Yeah. If it's real, because it was off of a TikTok. so but the Maybe?
00:05:58
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Sure. it's the It's the church in Barcelona that has been under construction for almost 150 years that is finally being completed this year.
00:06:10
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But is it ever really completed? is this Is this like the Church of Theseus?
00:06:18
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Well, apparently, even if the church is completed, that doesn't mean the work is over because now there's going to be, I believe, a 12,000-piece Lego set released. Yeah. And ah Danny let us know that that was coming. Duane, you did have some very important pieces of of, you had some questions for him though, because we know what the rules are about Lego in in Danny's house. I believe you said, one, have you been to the real one?
00:06:44
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Two, 12,060 pieces, you're going to need a new room. And three, we need the special minifig. ah Danny's answers in order were yes, maybe agreed.
00:06:58
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So he's not ruling out adding a wing onto his house to house this Lego set. I'm just thinking on the box, does it say ages 120 to 150 years?
00:07:13
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not not Not for your age. that's it's This thing's going to take ages to put together by definition. Let's
00:07:21
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from let's see. Also from toddler number six, he apparently listened. well couple of things, a couple of people that we know of listened to the special bonus edition where we talked about moving.
00:07:35
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Yes. And we're how we're moving the podcast and changing where it's being hosted from. And what David says is, so what I'm hearing you say is I get to delete an app from my phone. I'm like, up,
00:07:51
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Guess we know where one of our Podbean listeners is. You know, there is a non-zero chance that in the next week, there's going to be an executive C-level suite meeting at Podbean wanting to know why app usage has dropped by 40%. Did we
00:08:15
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lose talking to Todd? Oh my God. Did we not reach out? I mean, come on. we How do we find them? It was them and the car talk guys were the last two guys, the last two that we had on here. Isn't one of the car talk guys dead? Yeah, still more popular than the other one. But let's not get caught up in that.
00:08:37
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Let's see. and And last but not least, toddler number one and I got caught, got almost all the way caught back up. Okay. She had many, many pieces of feedback, not all of which I can share on the pod.
00:08:56
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During our discussion of the move.
00:09:02
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But what if you're an Android user? You gave lots of options for people to listen. If they own an iPhone. Lots of different apps to listen if they own an iPhone.
00:09:14
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What if you're an Android user? I'm like, well, Android users can listen on Spotify. It's like, yes no no, no, You need to go back and listen. You were very specific about Apple. I'm like, yeah, it's because I don't care about Android.
00:09:27
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I would say it's not that I don't care. i just have no idea. That's. I am assuming there's podcast apps on Android.
00:09:40
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um I don't know what they are, but I'm sure they exist. And you can subscribe to us on Android on one of those podcasts, players on Android.
00:09:53
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Sure. So related story. I got a text from my mother-in-law. Hey, I think my phone got hacked. Can you help?
00:10:05
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She has an Android. Please, please tell me you wrote back. How do I know this is you? i would just. ah I mean, if the phone got hacked, ergo, I can't trust anything coming from the phone.
00:10:22
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Therefore, how do I know that this is you? valid point. Always time coming up with me. Absolutely. Thank you. Yep. I'm like.
00:10:33
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you're you're asking You're asking the wrong family member. You need to check with the other sister, which is Julie. Amy and I both have iPhones and Joanne has an Android.
00:10:47
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julia I'm like, we don't know. well yeah i can't help. You need to go talk to the other sister. Good luck. At which point i screenshot I took a screenshot of that little exchange and I texted it to my sister-in-law.
00:11:03
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Hey, Julie, heads up. Incoming. Right? Exactly. And you know what I got back? You're dead to me. Yeah.
00:11:14
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Yeah. yeah I don't know, Android. and You're not wrong. It's not that we don't care. We just don't know. So, although, although real, just real quick while you're doing that, I was going through, I'm like, you know what?
00:11:30
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understand. I take the feedback. It's a good note. So I did, I did a quick search on Android podcast apps and it led me to Reddit, which suspect right off the bat.
00:11:43
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Well, six posts in, we're now talking about Nazis. Yep, that's Reddit. Anyway. um Jeez. It took you sec. Yeah, yeah. Well, here's some recommendations from a a random Reddit post.
00:12:00
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There's an application called Podcast Addict. There is also one called Pocket Casts. Pocket Casts also had an an Apple one for quite a long time, so um so there's that.
00:12:13
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ah People keep saying Podcast Addict, Podcast Republic. That sounds a little militant. Podcast Addict, another one, Pocket Casts, um Podcast Addict, Pocket Cast. Those seem to be the two of them. And then right at the bottom, and I and i kid you not The very last post, do you know what it says?
00:12:37
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Podbean. Okay, so there's that.
00:12:45
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You know, I never downloaded the Podbean app. It's entirely possible that you could... i wonder if we told people the wrong thing. i want Can you listen to other podcasts on the Podbean podcast player?
00:12:56
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You just have to go subscribe. Interesting. Probably. I should really, and not going to go follow that up. Anyway, toddlers, if anybody, yeah, let me know. I'm guessing there was other feedback, though, from toddler number one.
00:13:10
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Let's see. So you you brought me a Dwayne Guessen number about the guy that bought AI.com? Yes.
00:13:22
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Amy. Apparently Amy has joined the band because the band had the jokes. Did they buy it from Allen Iverson? Well, there you go. AI.com.
00:13:35
Speaker
Sure. They bought it from Allen Iverson. And then three minutes later, you told who they bought it from. And it wasn't quite as funny, but in the moment, it was funny. i was I was more thinking about if you reached out and you're like, you reached out to Allen Iverson's group and you're like, hey, would you sell AI.com? And he's like, sure, let's do this. And like, no, I was just checking.
00:13:59
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Practice. Are we talking about practice? Are you trying to practice by that? Practice? No, no, no.
00:14:09
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Anyway, his entire his entire his entire basketball down to practice. we talking about practice, which is different than playoffs? You're talking playoffs? You know what?
00:14:22
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Those are actually, if you overlap those, they're very similar. Yeah. We're talking about practice. We're talking about playoffs. Anyway, sorry. Please continue.
00:14:38
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we We covered the story about concession prices in Big Mac land at Bush Stadium in St. Louis. Yes. Yes. Amy pauses the playback.
00:14:51
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I saw this story. I was going to send it to you and I didn't because I knew it would lead to a discussion of concession prices.
00:15:03
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Not wrong. ye I mean, no, she's. but
00:15:09
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Can't argue with that. Nope. ah And last but certainly not least. We're listening to the first.
00:15:21
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M&Ms, not the, sorry, not the first M&Ms episode, but the M&Ms episode where I reported on buying the big jug and what my results were.
00:15:35
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Yes. And I started, i just, I had just barely gotten into it. Amy, oh my God, please tell me you didn't dump that thing out and count them all.
00:15:47
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ah and then Wait for it. Wait for it for it. Wait for it. Exactly. She's like, isn't there a serving size on the back of the jug?
00:16:01
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i don't know. Probably. Yeah. Actually, I know there is because it says 12. 12 M&Ms is a serving, apparently, according to the jug. It's 12, if you were curious.
00:16:13
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right Right. Exactly. Yeah, it's like, you know maybe a third of a serving for me, but whatever. 12 servings, 62 servings in a container for a total of 744 M&Ms estimated in the container.
00:16:31
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estimated in the container Oh, you could have mathed this whole thing out. I could have just mathed the thing and been done with it. Now, I still wouldn't have had the color ratio, which we know are wrong.
00:16:47
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It's a lie. It's a big lie. It's the big lie. The count is wrong. The count is always wrong. It is rigged. M&M's count is rigged. We need, you know what we need? We need to see the ID of the green M&M because I think, never mind.
00:17:05
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So there was that. Did you catch any feedback this week? um No, I did not. That was probably plenty for everyone. Yeah. Yeah. Did we have any corrections?
00:17:20
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um I did not. No, I wasn't, I wasn't, I wasn't listening closely enough to find corrections, but, but no no one sent, and no one sent any in Lisa. Yeah. Looking at you. Okay.
00:17:33
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yes
00:17:35
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I had, I had two pieces of followup for you. Okay. I, i'm in Atlanta. Okay.
00:17:46
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And there is Waymo in Atlanta. Ooh, okay. And so I was, well, we were, standing so we were standing around the trade show booth this afternoon, talking to, talking to a client about, and somehow God knows the topic of Waymo's came up. oh I have a podcast. Oh, sorry. Yeah.
00:18:10
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I'll get to that in follow-up item number two. Oh, okay. Excellent. So we're standing around the trade shop booth and somehow the conversation led to Waymo's because they're in Atlanta. And one of the guys is from San Francisco where he sees them all the time and we're all familiar with them. He's like, well, did you hear about the the Waymo that drove through the shooting in Los Angeles.
00:18:42
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Like there was a police standoff and the police are on one side and the other people that are shooting at them are on the other side. And the Waymo taxi drives right through the middle of it.
00:18:55
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I'm like, nope, you can hear this. And I can't believe we didn't report on it in my, nevermind. So then I had to go Google it. Yes. December 3rd, 2025, Waymo driverless taxi takes passenger, not just an empty Waymo, a Waymo with a person in it, takes passenger into a parent police standoff.
00:19:17
Speaker
Now, Waymo said the car was in the vicinity of the standoff for only 15 seconds. But, you know, with the door open, how are they supposed to know? Anyway, that was in Los Angeles.
00:19:29
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According to the headlines here, it was a police standoff. There was an actual shooting going on at the time. It's not like it was dodging bullets. There could have been shooting. It was a high-risk felony stop.
00:19:40
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But there wasn't actual shots being fired. On the other hand, if you're Waymo, you're like, passenger was never in danger. This was ah on a city street. The police had closed it off.
00:19:51
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And son of a gun, our taxi was doing like 90, 95 through there. So it wasn't in that it wasn't in the middle of that very quick. The thing is, is that it had it had seen a so a school bus stop up ahead with a stop sign out. So it whipped around that school bus and just accelerated just as fast as it could. And then it went right through the felony stop. That's really a safety feature.
00:20:14
Speaker
So and then the other guy that was standing there said, no, I didn't hear about that. But here in Atlanta... the Waymo drove, and this was just, this was a month ago, February 11th.
00:20:28
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One of the Waymo's drove into a crime scene after two Atlanta officers were injured in a shooting. The Waymo bypassed the police barricade and sure and and put itself in position where the EMTs could not get to the injured officers.
00:20:52
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Like, Waymo, doing real doing doing fantastic things. By the way, yeah planning on taking a Waymo Friday night back to the airport.
00:21:04
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Can't decide whether that's a good thing. Do we have a couple of podcasts in the can just to make the transition a little easier in case this doesn't go well? By the way, just...
00:21:17
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Apropos of nothing, when you get in the Waymo, just in case, you may want to just like lay down on the back floor. just don't Don't sit in it. Lay down. like Get as low as you can in case it happens to drive through an active police shooting.
00:21:32
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also check the Also check the trunk for any strangers. in case Can I just ride in the trunk? That might be safer. um Maybe. Although then when it stops and you're like, this isn't my stop. And then somebody gets in. Now you're, you're the problem.
00:21:49
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You, you become the problem.
00:21:56
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I was riding in the trunk because it was safer. Oh, okay. Yeah. You know what? Tell to the judge on Monday. Come on, let's go. Okay. So a followup item number two.
00:22:09
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Yes, because that that was one A and one B. So now we're to two. Okay. I'm tracking. now we're at two. Right. So um I'm not going to get into the details, but I went to the doctor earlier this week.
00:22:25
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Amy and I, Amy and I together went to the doctor, one to one to visit the doctor, the other to listen. So that we've got, you know, make sure that we're gathering all the information.
00:22:36
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Long story short, everything is just fine. So I'm going to preface this with everything everything is just fine. There's nothing to worry about. But went to the doctor. But one of the potential remedies that the nurse practitioner recommended was hyaluronic acid.
00:22:58
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And I went. hold on, Amy, but I don't,
00:23:07
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but I don't ski. So
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ah ah fuck
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so I think you must be mistaken with, with your prescription.
00:23:23
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And Amy says, yes, You covered that on the podcast. And the nurse practitioner says, you have podcast?
00:23:36
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Why, yes. Yes, I do. So i had to I had to give the abbreviated version of the two different crotch enhancement stories that we covered.
00:23:48
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Yes. Had On the podcast. because Had to. Notice everybody. Had to. add to Because technically, she asked.
00:23:59
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Technically, that's right. But she had heard of the suit alteration crotch enhancement story. She had not heard of the hyaluronic acid crotch enhancement story. She's like, oh, now I'm going to have to go Google this. How do I find the podcast?
00:24:16
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No G, no space. Yes. Anyway, adding listeners one at a time. Hopefully when we make the switch, she can still find us. Anyway, things are going great at the doctor's office.
00:24:29
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Fun fact. ah for most of our For most of our listeners, we would say, you know what? The whole ski jump enhancement, don't Google that at work. just don't you don't You don't want that kind of smoke. On the other hand, at the doctor's office, you're like, don't hate you you know what?
00:24:45
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Sure. Like, that's fine. It's research.
00:24:51
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Oh, my God. Three weeks from now, three weeks from now, there's going to be a shingle out that little sign that says, hey, we now do this.
00:24:58
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a A really quick promotion, because I don't know whether it's going to matter. It's Wednesday night. The basketball games start tomorrow morning. If you're interested in getting into the talking. do don't they Yes, they do.
00:25:10
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Okay, real quick. For whatever reason, I've been going around all day today thinking, it's Tuesday. I got to get my brackets in by tomorrow. It wasn't until you just mentioned that right now that I'm like, oh, I should probably do some brackets. Okay. think You know what? whether Whether anybody else hears that, that promotion was helpful. Thank you.
00:25:31
Speaker
You're welcome. You're welcome. we do need We do need to pick the official talking to Todd bracket. Oh, yes. Yes. And we've got to come up with something again, right? We've done mascots.
00:25:42
Speaker
Go Boilermakers. We could pick the Boilermakers this year because trains win. Yeah. Yeah. um Okay. Okay. Here you go. Yeah.
00:25:56
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All right. Throwing in, I was trying to come up with what we could do this year. There was part of me that was like, look, as, as well as anything else is working, this bracket does not do very well. Everybody shocking, shocking.
00:26:10
Speaker
Yeah. There was part of me that was like, and I don't even know how this would work, but I just come up with the ideas and then you execute on them. And then I go, I disagree. And you're like, well, I did the work. So this is the way it is. And I live with it. um Around the brackets. Sure. We'll say that. So there was part of me that was like, we, we pick a, we just, we pick a color of Jersey and the color closest to that color wins.
00:26:39
Speaker
What does that mean? no idea. I don't even understand how that works. Maybe it's Roy G Biv and the closer you are or, and here's the thing. No, no, no, no, no. Okay.
00:26:51
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We pick them based on the weighted percentages of and M colors. Which ones? The one, the purported ones or the actual ones? i You pick.
00:27:05
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So you're saying if if if a team with blue faces a team predominantly red, blue wins because there's more blue. That's what I'm saying, yes.
00:27:17
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I'm in. Let's do that. Yes. Okay. Deal. Okay. It's the M&M bracket for talking to Todd this year. and also a lot And also, by the way, yeah we got we got a shot at picking Duke this year. Yeah.
00:27:32
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Cause blue's the highest. So, you know, shot it. This bracket may be better. This bracket may be better than we think. Yeah. Yeah. The team that's wearing Brown is not going to do very well. And I don't think there's a team that wears Brown for very specific reasons.
00:27:51
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Yeah. are Yeah. Yeah. The Friars? Valpo? The Demon Deacons? No. Valpo. Valpo's brown. Valpo's brown and yellow.
00:28:03
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Are the Padres in? No. Wrong. No. Okay, so so by the time this gets released, hope everybody got into the bracket. Yay.
00:28:15
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ah The password's toddlers, by the way. if you If you need the password, never mind. um
00:28:23
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Danny... reached out to Todd's Tech Corner on Demand this week. That's a service we apparently provide. Yep. Yeah, Amy knows it. amy Yes, we do. Yes, yes, we do.
00:28:38
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and And thanks to the Taylor Center for Technology Policy, we were able to provide that that little little software hack, volume up, volume down, hold the power.
00:28:55
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it's It's how you restart a brand new iPad that isn't setting up correctly. Way to go, Apple.
00:29:03
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if not If things jam, yeah. if I actually knew that hack.
00:29:10
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See, nobody should need to know that. If you know it, the only reason you know that is because you had to use it. Yes. Yes. that's Yes, I have.
00:29:21
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It works at that hack actually works on all Apple handheld products that don't have a hard button anymore. Like okay a thumb button, the the thumb button that used to be in the middle because it used to be hold down the button and hold down the power screen.
00:29:39
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Hold down the power button and hold down the touch. Thank you. Touch ID. Yes. That was what you're thinking of. Yes. That's yes. I didn't know the technical term for it. The thumb button. Yeah. That's what it is. Yeah. Thumb button. Yeah. Yeah. That's that. I mean, that's how they referred to it in all of the marketing material, but it was technically the touch ID button.
00:30:09
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People said we couldn't do it. I'll tell you what. Courage. Nope. That was the headphone jack. Okay.
00:30:18
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Okay. Now, hey, going from something that I know something about to something I have no shot at knowing. And I'm here to remind Todd of the mess Todd made when he answered wrong.
00:30:33
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Todd, Todd, Todd ought to know. That's right. That sound means it's time for one of America's favorite games. It is time for Todd Arano.
00:30:44
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This week on Todd Arano, I have... The question for Todd is, Todd, what happened in Chicago on August 5th?
00:30:58
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Sorry. ah Please continue.
00:31:04
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guess I should have waited for the whole thing. Yeah. Okay. Please continue. You should have. No. Yeah. No, no, no.
00:31:16
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Sorry. Okay. So what happened in Chicago on August 8, 2004? two thousand And four and i have I have some hints for you if you if you don't know the answer to this.
00:31:30
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Okay, so August 8, 2004. Okay. okay fairly Fairly famous answer. Okay. The lights came on in Wrigley before then.
00:31:42
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so I'm going to rule that out. um Odds are good that there was a daily as the mayor at some point around that time.
00:31:53
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Who knows? They stayed a long time. Illinois was Illinois. the The city of Chicago was being led by a governor that would eventually be found guilty of a felony. That's always that's a yeah. Odds are in your favor that that is correct.
00:32:15
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Not what I was looking for. Not the answer you're looking for, probably true. August 8, 2004. um but but Let's see.
00:32:26
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ah That was not when the Blues Brothers was filmed. That was earlier. Correct. 25 years earlier. Please.
00:32:37
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Did some monkeys escape from the zoo? the
00:32:43
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You can catch an el scene you could definitely say that something escaped. That part is correct. Okay. Hmm.
00:32:55
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Okay. I'll take a hint. Roger. are you Are you familiar with the Kinsey bridge, Todd?
00:33:03
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Is that one of the bridges over the Chicago river? It is one of the bridges over the Chicago River, and it is the site of the Kinsey Bridge the kinsey bridge incident, Dave Matthews Band.
00:33:19
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which was which which involved the bus for the dave matthews band Okay. did did the Did the drawbridge go up with the bus on it and therefore the Dave Matthews band got stuck because they were high
00:33:41
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on the bridge?
00:33:44
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Centered. High-centered. High-centered. Yes. that's that's there was just a I was getting to that. I was getting to that. Yes. No. Okay. No.
00:33:55
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On August 8th of 2004, the Dave Matthews Band bus stopped on the Kinsey Bridge. It was a gorgeous day. People were out on the water.
00:34:08
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people Have you ever taken an architectural tour? of Chicago. I have. on is one of the things yeah It's one of the things you have to do when you go to Chicago. Absolutely. right It's great. it's it's really It's a really cool tour. And you sit on the top of the boat so that so the docent can you know point out the different the history of these buildings and which one of ones of them, most of them, have been turned into condominiums, et cetera, et cetera.
00:34:37
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is Is any of this, is is any of this <unk> have you heard any of this story? Have you ever heard this story, Todd? So I've never heard it. I'm i'm assuming what it was about to transpire is there. The bus stopped on the bridge. The bridge couldn't open. The architectural boat is headed towards it. They can't stop in time and people start flying, leaping off of the top of the boat into the river that flows the wrong direction.
00:35:08
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Is that what happened? it It is not what happened. Something did come out of the bus because the the bus had apparently been on the road for quite a while is the, is what I'm gathering because the bus driver. this have anything to do with a dump station?
00:35:32
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Or lack thereof. Here's the river. you know how I can open the valve. Well, and you know how how the bridges in Chicago, you've driven over these bridges, right? They're not solid concrete. It's a grate. Yeah, so you can see you can see to the water below.
00:35:50
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Right, exactly. So when the bus driver stopped on the bridge, looks both ways, and opens the dump tank, and it's not just the gray water, it's also the black water. As somebody who knows...
00:36:07
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rving todd the difference between gray water and black water it's it's it's the entire it's it's everything you need you need to know the difference between those two one comes out of the kitchen sink and one comes out of the toilet and it's important to be really clear about which one you're working with and the bus driver whose name is stefan wool lets it all fly right on down through the bridge and through the great and on into the river.
00:36:39
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And again, as I said, gorgeous day, architectural boat tour coming by, and they caught the full brunt of it. The Kinsey Bridge incident in Chicago on August 8, 2004, courtesy of the Dave Matthews Band bus.
00:36:59
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I learned about this from from Nick Kroll, from a TikTok that Nick Kroll put together and told of this story while standing on the Kinsey Bridge.
00:37:15
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You know, what what have what would have only made that story better is if at the end of it and he said, And how do I know? Because I am stepping wall or said yeah or whoever the bus driver was.
00:37:35
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Anyway, that was something that I learned. was probably a couple of weeks ago. More than that. I've been, so I've been sitting on this for a while waiting for a week that I didn't really have a good.
00:37:46
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So were they there So was the bus driver. And that was the problem. He was sitting on it for too long. Like that's, By the way, real quick, just just real-time follow-up. It has its own wiki page.
00:37:57
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It is referred to as the Dave Matthews Band Bus Incident, also known as Poopgate, because you know we stopped coming up with good names for stuff you know decades ago. Yeah.
00:38:09
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If anybody cares, it it apparently ah the the target of said dump station was, oh, this is so sad. The boat was Chicago's Little Lady.
00:38:22
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Like, what what are you doing? Yeah. ah The boat immediately returned to its dock where all passengers were issued refunds. Five passengers were taken to Northwestern Memorial Hospital for testing.
00:38:33
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ah A, C, no, not that testing. Get some other testing. Yeah. um Yeah. Wow. Good news. the The boat's deck was swabbed by its crew and service was resumed. That happened at the, that was during the one o'clock Chicago architecture foundation toward in the Chicago river.
00:38:52
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After that happened, they swabbed the deck and the boat was ready to go again for the three o'clock tour. Yeah.
00:39:02
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what's that Was was that the poop deck? Jeez. Oh God. That,
00:39:10
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Yep. There you go. Anyway, yes. The Dave Matthews band bus incident on the Kinsey Bridge in Chicago. The thing that I thought Todd desperately ought to know this week.
00:39:25
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I don't know why, but okay. I don't know. I don't know why. Speaking of idiots, what'd you bring this week, Todd, for the Scott Frost Memorial Idiot of the Week? Okay, this one this one has to potentially get ah get a little dark, ah and and i'm i'm trying I'm trying not to get super dark on this. On the other hand, you know we've talked about the the futures, the the prediction markets, right?
00:39:50
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Calci and Polymarket, we've we've had some of those conversations. And about how much money was bet on whether somebody showed up to the Super Bowl or not. And, uh, and even the day after the Superbowl, they still hadn't settled the futures contract because they weren't sure whether the person had showed up or not. Okay.
00:40:10
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So again, I'm going to touch on a little bit of dark and then we're going to move on to how terrible these prediction markets are. So part of the prediction markets are because there is a war going on, ah these prediction markets are now letting you place futures on things that could take place in the middle of the war in the Middle East.
00:40:33
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Great. That's awesome. we should should really We should really do that. a A journalist for the Times of Israel...
00:40:46
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got an email, got, started getting some WhatsApp messages, literally saying you have 90 minutes left. Sorry, out of nowhere, he got this message that said you have 90 minutes left to update that lie.
00:41:02
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If you do this, you solve in a minute the most serious problem you've caused in your life, and you won't remember me in a week. This was in addition to other messages that said that if he didn't that he this person knew where the journalist and his family lived, and if he didn't issue a correction on a story within hours that they would find him and they would kill him.
00:41:25
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And he's like, what is going on with this? I don't understand. Because the story simply said that a warhead an Iranian warhead landed in someplace in Israel. And he just wrote a story that said from days ago, hey, a missile ah warhead hit, left an impact, there was no damage, there were no casualties, moved on.
00:41:49
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What he eventually figured out was on Polymarket, there was a a futures market that says that Iran strikes Israel on, and people had put money on March 10th.
00:42:07
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He had written his story on March 10th that a warhead had hit, not causing any damage. He didn't even think anything of it. But because that story ran, people were about to lose money if they had voted no, because that would constitute a strike. So people found him and started telling him that the paper had to issue a retraction, that it was a lie, because they had placed money that it wouldn't land on the 10th. Okay. Okay.
00:42:44
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And you think, well, this is going great, right? um Now, this had happened, this all these messages were happening five days after because they hadn't settled the bet sorry the futures contract yet because it was still up in the air of people saying, well, this article says this, and so they nobody had been paid out yet. So they were trying to get him to retract the story before the payout happened.
00:43:10
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And correct me if I'm wrong here, Todd. Because they hadn't settled yet, it was still open for people to bet on it? That was what I was getting to. Yes, you you saw that.
00:43:23
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so Oh, sweet Lord. In the days following the attack, it was still open to bet whether Iran had attacked on the 10th or not.
00:43:36
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an additional $7 million dollars in wagers came into the market after the event took place because they hadn't settled it yet.
00:43:49
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With some individuals standing to win more than a million dollars if the market resolved to yes. So now we're betting on things that took place in the past.
00:44:02
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you It already happened. You can place a bet on it. And then if you say, I'm going to lose money, you then find the journalist that reported that it happened and tell them to say that it didn't happen so that you can win the bet on the thing that you bet on after it happened.
00:44:21
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Are we living in Back to the Future 2? No, that was entertaining. Not as entertaining as the first one, but it was, you know, hoverboard, right?
00:44:32
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Yes. So anyway, just just by the way, to round this up, the journalist had to, yeah he said he did consider...
00:44:41
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Maybe he needs to retract this because the story doesn't mean anything. Like literally, warhead hit, nothing happened. You know, we could probably retract that. Then he decided that probably sets a bad precedent.
00:44:54
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So instead, he took he took all of his WhatsApp stuff, turned it over to the police, and then went and told his editors. And then the editors wrote a story about how the Polymarket group and these users were going after him to change the story so that they would win money. Anyway, yay for Polymarket and Calci.
00:45:13
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um You can have, by the way, Giannis Antetokounmpo owns, he's now a part investor in Calci. So we have an NBA player who now owns part of a platform that accepts futures bets on the and NBA. I'm sure that's going to be fine.
00:45:31
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Anyway, ho this is all cool. Nothing wrong here. The good news is afterwards, I'm just thinking, though, like, can you imagine like six days after a Cubs game placing money on whether they would win or lose?
00:45:44
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And like the score was like, let's say it's four to three Chicago wins. And you're like six days later, you're like, I'm going to put down 300 grand that they lost. And they're like, why? And like, hold on. And then you go track down the official score and say, if you know what's good for you, change the score.
00:46:02
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That's where we're headed. That's cool. I would say the idiot is the person, the people, multiple people who were going after the the journalist. But really the idiot is like, i think I don't think these markets are going to work out the way we want them to.
00:46:16
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Quite frankly, at this point, I just want to go back to the cute Waymo stories. I don't want to cover this stuff anymore. And yet, feel like I feel like this is our new Brett Favre It's just going to every week there's going to be just a terrible, terrible story. So anyway, how about you? What did you bring? Please do this please say something fun.
00:46:36
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Like an HOA or like somebody who, yeah, just, I don't know, something. ah English Premier League. Ooh, yes. Yes, please.
00:46:49
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Chelsea was handed a so a fine for breaching the rules. Yes. A one-year ban for signing first-year team players and a 10 million pound fine for Premier League relating to breaches of financial rules. We are coming down hard on Chelsea, except well we're not. well yeah except Except we're not because they suspended the ban for two years.
00:47:19
Speaker
So basically, you know, do whatever you want to as long as you don't do it again. whatever rules, schmools, doesn't matter. Everything's fine in Chelsea.
00:47:32
Speaker
Yeah. A couple of things on that. Yep. Sure. Their, their financial shenanigans took place from, I believe 2011 through 2019. The the new owners came in um after they got it from the Russian, after they bought it from the Russian oligarch. And, um,
00:47:49
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and They're the ones that reported it. They say, hey, we think something weird happened here. So they apparently got less of a fine because of that. Now, 10 million pounds sounds like a lot of money. Last year, but last year I think they they technically lost $538 million. 10 more? Their squad is worth like 1.3 billion pounds.
00:48:12
Speaker
The guy that owns the Dodgers owns them. They're fine. What is really interesting though, if you want to talk about rules don't matter. Well, two things were pointed out. Number one, During that time when they got around all of the financial controls, they won multiple Premier League titles and I believe also won the Champions League.
00:48:31
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So it was totally worth it. Totally. If you told any Premier League team, hey, you could win multiple titles and I think a Champions League and it's going to cost you $10 million. Well, thank you. I didn't realize you could write a check that fast.
00:48:46
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Anyway, so it totally paid off. What is really, really interesting though, and everybody's like, none of this is interesting, Todd. I understand that.
00:48:58
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During the same timeframe, Manchester City has been accused of 115 financial violations during about that same window.
00:49:11
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This case has been going on for five or six years now, and everybody's waiting for them to come down hard on Man City, but Man City won multiple titles and has, they're one of the darlings of it. And everybody looks at the Chelsea one and goes, oh, I see what's going to happen.
00:49:30
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they They, they have 115, 115 incidents of financial malfeasance. And you're going to chart, you're going to say what 20 million pound and four year transfer ban suspended.
00:49:46
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Suspended. Yeah. It's good to be the king. I'll just say that. it's it's It's good to be the king. wait a Way to really go after him.
00:49:58
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Yeah. ah he i Yeah, go ahead. i I had a travel story, but I'm going to move it to what I learned this week.
00:50:12
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Okay. Did you have any travel stories? i have I have a proxy travel story, and this is actually follow-up to our New York Times games from earlier. So Lisa lisa' is out ah traveling for work this week, and on Sunday night, she was stuck, not stuck, it well, kind of stuck, in Pearson in Toronto for hours and hours and hours, and then they delayed the flight by another two and a half hours. So she was there a very long time, and not in the good terminal.
00:50:44
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Anyway, one of the things that we do, So, so we do the New York times, we do some of the New York times games together every night. And so we'll do connections and we'll do like the mini and stuff. And it's just kind of our thing that we do. And when we're both home together, we, I, I project my phone up on the, up on the TV through the Apple TV so that we can play the game together. And one of the things that happens, one things that we've constantly, we've just started, when we started doing this, I'd put connections up and Lisa would just read out loud all 16 boxes and
00:51:16
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So she would just read them all out and then we would go, okay. Now, when she's traveling or she's at the disclosed undisclosed location and I'm up here or whatever, you can do a FaceTime call and you can share a screen. So we play even when when we're not in the same place.
00:51:31
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She was in the airport. She's on her headphones and I share my screen with her and I bring up connections and she starts reading the connections. At which point she gets almost all the way through, then looks up, and I can see she's talking to the person sitting in the seat across from her.
00:51:50
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Yes. She had to explain, oh, no, no, I'm playing that too. He thought that he had pulled it up. He thought she was reading his phone. Yeah.
00:52:03
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How are you reading my phone? No, no, no, no. I'm, I'm playing over and I'm with my husband on the ear phone. She, he literally thought she was reading his phone to him.
00:52:17
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He was little freaked out. Oh my God. Yeah. Yeah. So anyway, smoothed it all over. Little freaky, but anyway.
00:52:29
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Yeah. Yeah. there's there's There's good travel story. um but Where are we at now? Oh, look at hey look at that. Hey, what we're watching really quick. ah this could be This could have been a travel story.
00:52:42
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A couple of weeks ago when we flew out to New York, I usually never watch movies on a plane and I was just like, yeah, I'm just going to see what's on here. And on the flight out, I was like, Superman. and i didn't From last year, I didn't see Superman.
00:52:55
Speaker
I've heard it's There's parts of it that are good. You know what? I'll watch Superman. So I watched the 2025 Superman in February. So that's why got the dog, got got got Clark, got Superman.
00:53:11
Speaker
Yeah. Dog's the best part of that movie. The dog is pretty good. And the fact that the dog is not well-mannered is a piece of comedic genius. Yeah.
00:53:23
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Because if the dog was well-mannered, it wouldn't be nearly it wouldn't be nearly as fun. No. So anyway, so that's what I'm watching three or four weeks ago. How about you? What are you watching?
00:53:36
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A show that's new to me, but probably not new to anyone else. um It's called Fisk. Have you heard of this? um No, I have not.
00:53:48
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okay You might like it. It's on Netflix. It is an Australian show, but it's produced in the mode of a British show. There are three seasons and there are six episodes per season of 30 minutes each.
00:54:09
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So it's it's really quick. And the title character, Fisk, this lady is a probate attorney in Melbourne, Australia.
00:54:28
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And it's the relationships between her and her dad and her office mates. And it is, I'm not going to say it's cringe comedy,
00:54:41
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But it is, it is and I find it so, so, so funny. But it is definitely British comedy. it's It's in that mode. So if you like that kind of show, it's a quick watch.
00:54:55
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And i'm I'm really enjoying this. I finished season two and I'm ready to start with season three. And again, it takes you no time at all because there's only six episodes per season.
00:55:07
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So Fisk on Netflix. Excellent. Okay. Good to know.
00:55:16
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Did you learn anything this week? Yeah. ah What I learned this week is Lisa's traveling for work. She does this somewhat frequently, but she was a little concerned because she's traveling for work this week and then she's going to be at the disclosed undisclosed location for a week. I'm going go down the weekend and then I come back up for work. so So I'm going to be home alone for two weeks, weekdays.
00:55:37
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Yes. weekdays yes Thank you, Macaulay. um and And so this whole, this I think Lisa got a little freaked out about leaving me here alone. So on our whiteboard, we have a the house came with ah with a with a glass board in the kitchen where you can write stuff on. And we're like, no.
00:55:59
Speaker
yeah I guess we can use it. Sure. So, so there's three lists. um List one are here's some projects I would like you to complete while I'm gone. Fair enough. Absolutely. Cool. I can take care of this. Yep.
00:56:11
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yeah Number two, here's a list of things when you come down this Friday, make sure that you put in the car when you drive down because it's bring these with you. Perfect. But three quarters of the board is listed.
00:56:27
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with things that I can eat. I think she's afraid. She's like, I don't know what you would do here. So, cause, cause she does, she does all the cooking. She's a very good cook um and she enjoys cooking.
00:56:38
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And so she's like, okay, here, I'm like, you know, I've, I've been left alone before. She's like, I know, but it's two weeks. And so here's all the list of the frozen stuff that I went out and bought. And then here's the list of the, of the, of the fresh stuff that we have.
00:56:52
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And Because the way the kitchen's laid out, we have, there was there was a smaller, older fridge that came with a house. And then we have, we we bought a new fridge. We have to make some alterations for the new fridge to fit where the old fridge is. We got to move some cabinets. So until that time, we have two fridges in our, in our kitchen.
00:57:09
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So to let me know there's arrows pointing to which fridge it's in because I'm like, do you really think that I won't be able to find this? And she says,
00:57:23
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think about what you just asked me. And I'm like, yeah, that's right. That's probably good that you told me. I am known for opening up the freeze. I can't find it. It's in the front. Front of what? No, like oh I, oh, nevermind. I found it. So anyway, for the next two weeks, I have a list ah with directional arrows telling me which fridge to get things out of. And to be completely honest, it's really, he because then I come home at night and I just look at the list and go, what sounds good? Ooh, hey, look, cross that one off. Anyway, everything's going well. I'm well taken care of.
00:57:52
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That's what I learned this week, though. I have lists and apparently should be left home alone. What about you? What did you learn this week? So this um this morning.
00:58:05
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I'm going i'm I'm in the TSA line going through the TSA line and. One of the TSA officers I've known for nearly 20 years because his kid and my kid played soccer together.
00:58:26
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Right? So we were soccer parents together. And so I've known, I've known Brian a long time. Acquaintances, I wouldn't really say that we're friends, but we're acquaintances. We've known each other a long time. And I see him regularly when I go through the airport because he's a TSA agent. There he is. He's, he's always working. We're, you know, so we, we catch up. in the 30 seconds that I see him, right? Just whatever, blah, blah, blah. So this morning I'm going through and while I'm waiting for them to do my beg, hey, there's Brian.
00:58:59
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Hey, Brian, how's it going? Great. And I ask him, how you doing? I mean, are you guys getting paid anytime soon? And Brian says, well, what we hear now is that we might get paid sometime in mid-April.
00:59:19
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I'm like, ugh. He's like, well, I just do this for fun anyway. I've already retired from one career. I'm like, okay. And at least they gave me this free shirt.
00:59:38
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And one of his colleagues pipes up, Gotta give the shirt back. You don't get to keep it. Brian, and check that.
00:59:50
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I have a borrowed shirt.
00:59:54
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So things are going great at TSA.
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01:00:47
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Todd. Two things. Uh, what was your friend's name? You say Brian. Brian, I do wonder, i kind of wonder what career Brian had before he retired that he considers working at TSA fun.
01:01:02
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Like, like, wait
01:01:08
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I feel sorry for him now, not for working at TSA, but because he's like, TSA is fun. Holy crap. What did you do for 40 years? Also, um, Hey, quick, we're going to have a surprise to Wayne guess a number based on the ah Dave Matthews bus incident.
01:01:24
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So since I'm supposed to know all about this, Dwayne, how much waste was dumped out of the bus in 2004 in pounds, not gallons in pounds, how much was released out of the bus?
01:01:41
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because I was going to guess in gallons. da Yeah. Uh, I've got it. I've got it here in the story in pounds. So in pounds. Okay. Well, uh, let's see a pints a pound world round.
01:01:53
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Uh, and it's not just liquid. So there was solid. Yes. There's, there's both liquids and solids. Uh, so adding up all of the ones and the twos, I would, I would say,
01:02:11
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ah uh,
01:02:14
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225 pounds of effluent. You're low. Want to take another run? Oh no Shit.
01:02:25
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I mean, yes, exactly. 550. 550. Was off i a full to Wayne?
01:02:35
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Oh, you're off by way more than a full to Wayne. 800 pounds. o Oh my God.
01:02:44
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Eight hundred pounds.
01:02:50
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Oh, Dave. And here's the thing. will just say this. Having owned an RV, my thought was. wow, you must have a heck of a valve on there because because I had a much smaller tank. And I mean, it took like five minutes to drain the thing. Like you managed to get the whole boat. Like that's a really quick, good on you. Like, what is that? Is that like a 12 inch, like like like a 12 inch flapper valve? Is that what you're using? 12, 13, whenever it takes.
01:03:18
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Anyway. Yeah. this was this was not a small This was not a small incident. yeah
01:03:27
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The gift that keeps on giving.
01:03:31
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Luckily, we won't have anything we need to clean up next week. Not like that. Until then. no Until then, we're talking to Todd.
01:03:50
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Seriously, I just do this TSA thing for fun. What?
01:04:12
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seriously i just do this t dsa thing for fun what
01:04:20
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Oh, and by the way, Dwayne, I'm going to need you to go into that room with the with a lock on the outside. Yeah, it's for fun. Thanks, Brian.