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The Stream Queen & Pet Sematary
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The Stream Queen is joined by Stephanie Huettner for our first Halloween themed episode. We watch and talk about Pet Sematary (1989) directed by Mary Lambert, a horror classic that we watched as kids, but is it still as scary years later. Check out this episode to find out!
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Transcript
Opening with Iconic Film Lines
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to all the ladies I am big it's the pictures that got small
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All this way for my advice, I feel like Oprah. Person your seatbelts. It's going to be a bumpy night. What the hell? I'm not going to worry about if people accept me or not. I'm going to be in Hollywood wherever I am at.
Introduction to 'Stream Queen' Podcast
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Hello and welcome to the Stream Queen, where we select a movie by a female director and talk about it. That's it. That's the tagline.
Focus on 'Pet Sematary' by Mary Lambert
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I'm your host, Taki Aletuadivo, and today we have selected a movie by director Mary Lambert. Her film is Pet Sematary, some of which you might have seen before.
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It's from 1989.
Guest Stephanie Huttner Joins the Discussion
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My guest today is Stephanie Huttner, who is not just a movie fan, but has been a screener for South By for the Austin Film Festival and for LA Film Fest. She's also written about films and is also an editor. And so she is the perfect person to be here for today's episode, which focuses on a Halloween film.
Initial Reactions to 'Pet Sematary'
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And that's why we're watching Pet Sematary. So let's get the show on the road.
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How's it going, Stephanie? Going very well. Doing great. How are you? I'm doing good. I have to say that this first one, I've never seen this movie before. Oh, OK. And so I was prepared for it, kind of. And I went into it, and it definitely had some surprises. But first, I would like to know, what did you think about it?
Stephanie's First Full Viewing Experience
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So I didn't see this movie all the way through until three years ago. Okay. When I was actually in New England, I was in a hotel in Portland. And the next day I was going to be driving to Bangor, Maine, which is, you know, where Stephen King lives, where he's from. And also a couple of the scenes were shot in Bangor. And so I just realized, oh, I've never seen the whole thing. So I watched it that night in the hotel room. But growing up,
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It's one of those movies that you kind of just absorb through osmosis. Some of the scenes, like I had definitely seen, you know, the big scene with Gage, like both of the kind of finale with him and also his death scene I had seen.
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just from, I don't know, either it was on TV or something, or like, I don't know, my brother would be watching a movie with a friend and I would walk in for a minute. So I knew that and I also I believe it had to have been, yeah, it had to have been a couple years before I read the book before I watched the movie. I knew the story and all of that, but it's still, um,
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There are still definitely parts that are, you know, you don't really, there aren't jump scares in books. Yeah. That, you know, you can get creeped out and scared, but yeah, there are definitely some really solid, very creepy visuals in this.
Creepy Visuals and Production Design Praise
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Very creepy. Props to the props, people.
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Oh, I loved one of the things that I took notes. One of the things that I noticed, and this wasn't so much scary, but just really good details, was I really, really liked the production design of Judd Crandall's house. Yeah. It just, you know, it really just looked like this is an old house that this man's lived in. He lives here alone. It wasn't like,
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Oh, it's gross. I don't want to go in. It's just, you know, just things kind of stacked up. Yeah, it wasn't history of his life. It's just a history of his life. And it was, you know, just kind of subtle little things, you know, wasn't.
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Yeah, so it's like, oh, it's a nice fun house to come in and have a beer and everything. But it also is just like, this is someone that's lived alone for years. He's got exactly this kind of where they are.
Realism of New England's Setting
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Weirdly juxtaposed to this huge house that's across the street. Right. That wraparound veranda. Right. Just like, I remember looking at him being like, Oh, this would be such a dream house. I know it's tainted by like the undead.
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Right, but also one of the first things I wrote was, you know, they get there and immediately their child almost gets hit by a semi coming down the road and Judd's like, oh yeah, yeah, that's there's, there's always tons of trucks coming in. They use that as a like bypass the interstate or it's along the interstate and it's just sort of
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the interstate. And I just wrote, if I were the parents, I would build a fence. I know. Why wasn't that the first thing they did? Build a fence, build a wall, like it's I mean, kids can get around things that wouldn't help with the cat, but like with a little baby, it's like a fence, build a wall, but you know, the white picket fence, like where's the white picket fence? Exactly. But however it is,
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It did strike me as realistic, because I've taken two trips to New England around New England. And not just in Maine, but just in a lot of the smaller towns. And some of these weren't Maine highways. It was like in the movie where it's like, OK, this is the smaller, older highway. And I would take that because it's more of a nice scenic drive. Yeah.
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and there would be so many houses like this where like these you know just up close to the road no fence like big big field around them behind so much space but they had been built
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I mean, I don't know how all of them are, but like, it just, they were built when being close to a road wasn't such a hazard. And I remember thinking about this movie every time I would kind of come out on a cliff. Cause people would, out on these open roads, there would be people really trying to like tail you or get you to go faster. And I'd be like, nope, it says 45. And I see a bunch of kids toys in that yard. I am not going to be this truck driver.
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I feel like places in Texas have that too. Driving through Caldwell County or something, you see these houses a little bit more further out or further in. But yeah, there's no fence, there's no sidewalk. And if there are any kids playing up front, that's it.
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Yeah, yeah, it's it's kind of it's just kind of bizarre to me that it's I just like you said even a little white picket fence like I understand putting up a huge wall is kind of a big undertaking but it's like just put up some even even even if you have a little kid even like chicken wire like just put yeah and chicken wire and put up a barrier to keep your kid. I don't know.
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I don't know how old this baby was, but it was fast moving. I was like, how is this child moving so fast that you can't catch up with it? I know. It's funny when they show where they're eating. They're almost like at, you know, they're way, way back behind the house. Dad turns around for a minute, and then they cut to an aerial shot. And he's like 10 feet from the road. And I was like, that kid is trucking. All right. I know.
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you know some if you've ever babysat a child that age they can move they yeah when they are doing something they're not supposed to be doing they can move and it's like where did you go what happened yeah so
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Yeah, anyway, that's my background with the movie and kind of how it's seeped in mostly in the last five or so years, five or six years to my life. Yeah. So yeah, I'd seen, I rewatched it last night, though.
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to prepare for this podcast.
Themes of Death and Grief in the Film
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Yeah, and I remember reading some reviews of it and how people were like, yeah, when I was younger, this film was it. This film was great. And then they rewatch it as adults. And suddenly they were like, wait a second. There's so many things wrong in this movie. Did you get that feeling of one of those films where if you had watched it at the time it came out, would your perspective have been completely different than now?
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Well, maybe, I mean, just watching a horror movie like this as a child, and it's so much of the movie is about, in part, a little girl coming to terms with what death is, the older sister. That's a big chunk of it, is every family member experiencing
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death in a different way. Like the mother obviously had the trauma with death in her childhood. Yeah. And then the father is a doctor. And so, I mean, his first day, rough first day on the job, his new job, diversity, he has a patient die. So it's, you know, that's the obvious theme throughout the movie is how you deal with death, how you grieve.
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and you know of course the like the tagline that sometimes dead is better like yeah sometimes it is better the yeah yeah the idea that like sometimes you know it doesn't seem right that people go i don't know that i would have grasped all that when i was a child no um it definitely was more impactful as an adult like the idea of loss and the idea of letting go and not lost
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not letting loss consume you to the point where you make some bad decisions. Right. Right. And I mean, also just, you know, the
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I don't know if it's just, I was in a weird mood or something last night, but like, you know, I had seen that death scene a million times. I read the book, I'd seen the movie, but just for some reason last night, I was really having a hard time with the last act of the movie. I just, and I mean, some of it was,
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I was really, this time I was really focusing on the daughter and the mom and the way, and just thinking about like as an older sister, as like an eight-year-old, like how would you ever, ever get over that?
Critique of Judd's Decisions
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Like, you know, just the idea. Yeah, that's just. I mean, it manifested in her having nightmares, like a more impending doom. So in a way, like she, everyone was kind of,
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they kind of forgot about her in a way. Like, you know, the mom was being like cared for and she was grieving and the dad was having a fight with his father-in-law, but they're all forget about this child who is experiencing loss. Right. What the words are for it. Yeah. And I, there is that kind of, you know, Judd's there is kind of the uncle, like uncle or grandfather figure throughout. Yeah.
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Also, I blame Judd for all of this. Why would you tell him about this place? I know. That's the thing. And also, the first time he takes him out there,
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He's just being so cryptic. He doesn't even tell them what they're doing. He's like, we're going to bury it over here. And Lewis is just kind of like, why? He's like, don't look down. He's like doing all that. Like, just come with, follow me. And it's like, tell him what he's doing. Like, tell him the story about your dog before the ground. But that's kind of a thing where it's like, OK, you just have to make this character do this irrational thing or the movement.
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quite the word doesn't work yeah um yeah but i did write down jud being annoyingly cryptic just tell him what you're doing um
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Cause then immediately the cat comes back, it is just ruining this guy's life, like dropping dead rats in his bathtub and like taking space. I was like, that's something- Blowing eyes. Blowing eyes, like, prepare, just, it's like, just preparing for that. And also it's like, why would you want that creature coming back to be around the little girl? Like, I mean, it doesn't, the cat doesn't hurt the little girl, but it's like, just, they should have just gone with the,
The Misleading Title Discussion
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I don't know, honey. I guess maybe he wandered away. We're not sure. Just do that. It died while she was out of town. Take that small blessing and bury it somewhere else. Or go to a pet store and get a cat that looks just like it. I don't know. Anything but bringing a dead cat back to life. Right. That now apparently smells like death.
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It looks like you had option Dale. Options. So yeah, I do have to agree with you as much as I love Judd and I think he was trying to help. Yeah. I mean, he did save the little boy's life right at the beginning and he is trying his best.
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yeah it's like no you should have just told him what i mean he did try to warn him he did try to tell him don't don't put a human back there but oh yeah no but i guess so this takes me back to the title of the film right because
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It did not, when I went in, I was thinking, okay, it's gonna be a film about undead animals. It's gonna be like undead cats and dogs. But I feel like the film wasn't really about, like the pet cemetery was on the way to the real problem.
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The real object of the film was the Indian burial ground. And I understand that you can't title the movie Indian burial ground because it probably isn't going to get anyone going to see it. But I did feel like Pet Sematary was a bit of a misdirection. And I don't know what else I would have titled this film. But going in as someone who'd never seen it before, and then obviously the poster is of this cat, you're like, yes, OK, undead animals. Is it going to be creepy? Absolutely.
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I'm ready for it. And I was not ready for the undead baby. I mean, I kind of like that because it's just like, you know, there's no because I mean, it's not like a movie where, you know, sometimes there's a movie or cover box and it's like, that's not even in the movie. Yeah. But in this case, it's like, yeah, no, they they do. They have the cat come back. But that's sort of just like, oh, that's just
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the appetizer and I do kind of like the left turn. I mean, they heavily, heavily foreshadowed the child dying. Yes, they do. I do kind of, I do like that if there's the misdirect that, you know, people would go in, if they hadn't read the book and they hadn't, you know, heard about it. I do like the idea of people going in thinking, oh, it's just going to be about creepy animals. And then it goes that extra step and it's like- It just like gives you a left turn.
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Yeah. So I do, I mean, I'm a fan of Mr. X, although I do understand that it's, um, it gets really tricky when you're trying
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Yeah, obviously horror is a minefield and I know that there are, you know, there are
Child Actor and Production Design Admiration
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different websites and places where, you know, there are people who will look and be like, I don't care if it's spoilers, I need to know, I need to, I need a content wall. Oh yeah, like does the dog die?
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Right. And in this case, you know, if somebody, if it was a friend or someone who had lost a child, I would be like, don't ever, ever watch this. Don't just trust me and don't like I lose that child twice. Right. They lose it twice in the second time. And also it's like you see a child in a coffin, you see a child. It's just a lot. It's a lot. So trigger warning is required.
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Yeah and it's like but I mean there are plenty of people also who have gone through horrible things and there's horror as a way of confronting that and dealing with that and so it's just you know you kind of got to know the audience but I do I guess for me as someone who thankfully has not gone through that it's as a viewer it's a great left turn I mean I'd read the again I'd read the book but like yeah if you
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If you go in on knowing, it is a nice extra step. They're going a step further. And I mean, I think the part at the end when Gage comes back, I personally think that part is really well done. Oh, that baby's evil laugh ended me. It was just brilliant and cheesy in so many ways. Like, it reminded me of Chuffy.
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actually the whole like undead baby reminded me of Chucky and his little chubby hands trying to you know get the scalpel and hold it right like just from a production design perspective wow just yeah absolutely wow
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I also think, I mean they also had him in like a little top hat at one point. I know! He's in all these creepy clothes and then he's back in what he was buried in and I also just think the little boy, Mikko Hughes, who was in quite a bit as a child actor, I think he's amazing in this. He's got to be, I think he's like one and a half or two years old in this. Yeah.
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I understand like a lot of the creepy laugh is probably somebody else or they just, you know, they manipulated the audio, but the stuff that is just him, like when the dad is putting the needle in his neck, like when he starts crying, like that's just him. I think he's, you know, kudos to him because his performance adds a lot because there are plenty of
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There are plenty of creepy kid movies, creepy baby movies. And then a lot of them, they honestly just have the kid stand still and like stare or have a kid say something in, you know, a monotone. So it's creepy. And then this one, like he had to, he had to actually kind of like muster. He had to do a lot. Yeah. Cause like that phone call, I'm just like listening to it. I was like, I don't know how old this baby is, but that's like a lot of vocabulary.
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I know that says Dada and mama like every.
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I know. And I mean, I don't, I haven't looked too into it because sometimes, you know, they'll have adults that can do kid voices, they'll have them, they'll mix that. I'm not sure if they did that. But I do, like I said, that kid was in a lot. And that a lot of that dialogue sounded exactly like him. He was also in one of the Nightmare on Elm Street movies later on. And he's, again, has some like possessed child stuff to do. And
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more than the average, you know, not just like a kid staring, you know, standing in a corner staring at you, he has to like actually do some pretty crazy stuff.
Lewis' Acting Critique
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So I'm gonna say a lot of it was probably just him being like a very precocious, maybe early speaker. Yeah.
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Maybe. I mean, I didn't know how much of him was in that. I mean, that's why it was so well done. It felt like it could have been a doll, but then there were just certain things. There was just like, this has to be a real person. Yeah. Certain parts definitely are a doll. Like when Lewis just throws it to the ground.
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Definitely some good cutting and I think it's really well edited and directed. It all comes together really well. I mean, Lois was probably, Lois's character is probably not the best actor. I feel like, gosh, she reminded me of, what's that actor's name from Batman, O'Donnell?
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Oh, Chris O'Donnell? Yeah, he reminded me of a cheap version of Chris O'Donnell. And he was definitely going for that look. But the acting just didn't do it for me, particularly after he's just seen his child get run over. And the scream just seems so like, I don't know what the word is, but it was so theatrical. Yeah. It just didn't seem like it came from
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pain more like this is how you scream yeah and i always try to kind of be fair with actors because sometimes i'm like how much of that was him and how much of that was the director i don't know yeah because you there's definitely movies where like
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you know, an actor gets blamed for this bad performance. And then it's like, you'll see an example for me is showgirls. Elizabeth got like raked over the coals and everyone's like, she's giving this insane wild over the top performance. Oh my gosh. But I'm like,
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But when I watched it, I was like, OK, yes, she is. But everyone is. The only person that gives a grounded performance in that movie is the roommate who's not in shows. But also, there are these kind of making behind the scenes clips that are kind of like, I don't know if they're PPE or whatever. But there was a documentary about showgirls.
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There's one clip where, you know, Paul Verhoeven is like directing her and he's just like, remember energy, energy, always energy. And I was like, yeah, that's how she was directed, doing what the director told her to do. So I do kind of try to walk this line of like,
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Were they told to do that? But yeah, it doesn't I agree that it definitely wasn't great like either way I think they you know, I agree with you about you know, the whole Thinking about it as is it the actor or is it the director? But I also think that if you look as he at his filmography like maybe it was him because he hasn't really done anything
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higher than this level. He's definitely been in some D-list, maybe even Z-list horror and sci-fi movies. So it can't be all the director. No, no, no, no. And I mean, within that same scene, I would say the wife's performance, when she's screaming, I'm like, no, that looks like a mother watching her child die. Exactly. Also, Denise Crosby.
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Tasha Yar, Star Trek Next Gen. I was so excited to see her in this movie because I've only ever seen her as the security officer in Star Trek. So this was like a completely different role for her to play. And it was just nice to see her in something different. Yeah, I think she's good in this. I think she's really good. Yeah, I do agree that like I
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Yeah, I don't think Dale Midkiff is, I don't, it's not like, oh, he's just terrible, but yeah, there are definitely some key scenes where he doesn't quite get there. No, like, just like, you know, the airport scene and the dead eyes, and you could tell what he's trying to do, but it just, there's no, there's no variation. Like, it just, he just stays in the same mode for like a really long time and you're just kind of like, give me, I want more.
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Yeah. Yeah. Switching gears a bit, what would you say was your favorite scene from this movie?
Emotionally Impactful Scenes
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It's hard. I guess if it's a scene that, I mean, it was really, it's hard to watch, but I do think the finale scene with Gage and Lewis. Yeah.
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I guess a couple of the gauge scenes, but I just think the, you know, when he puts the needle in Gage's neck, because he's like putting him back to sleep, the like transformation from like evil baby to like, then he's crying and then just like looks sad, like a little baby. And it was, you know,
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It's different from most evil kid movies where it's like, they're just an evil possessed kid and you finally, you know, set them on fire, blow them up or whatever. Exactly. I thought they did a good job of really, and both actors, I think, Dale Metcalf actually did that scene really well where he's like, you know, you can see him like,
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really not wanting to do it, but having come to terms with like, this isn't your son anymore. And also like the the editing, the intercutting of, you know, gages a child and engages this, the undead. Yeah, sells that too. But I just that that scene gets me every time because it's that was a better scene for sure.
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with how horrific it would have to be as a parent to just to do that and lose your kid twice. All over again. And again, it's the same person that sees the death, right? Like close up. So he saw the first, he missed the first chance to save his child and then he's having to be the one to take that child away again. So he's going to need a lot of therapy.
00:26:40
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Yeah. Well, I mean, not, he won't for long because he- No, no, that's true. Yes. Ultimately. We'll follow the ending for anybody who needs to see the rest of this movie. Oh, sorry. I'm assuming people that listen to it will, we've already said so much, but- Oh, we've said so much. But sometimes seeing is believing, you know? Yeah. You should go watch it regardless. I know there are plenty of people who have watched this film multiple times and they still enjoy it.
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Yeah for sure and I mean the the scenes with the I wouldn't call them my favorites because they are really upsetting but I do think the flashback scenes with Zelda the sister um yeah those scenes are so they're so viscerally horrifying because it's like
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You know, it's not, it's not like a possessed demon. It's just a sick human being who is, you know, like she says, she's being put, she's being hidden away. And she's almost wasn't human anymore. Yeah, probably insane. And it's that that's the stuff that really gets me is like, yeah,
00:27:56
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And you get sick. But what I really liked about that one was, you know, the way that they did the makeup on this particular woman, it looked so supernatural. And it got me thinking, it's like, that's the way probably kids see things, right? It's a little heightened.
00:28:19
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Because if you are looking at it from an adult perspective, it probably is still a shriveled human being who's like dying in their bed, but it's probably not that graphic, you know? And so for a child, everything is so heightened. So I love that when they did the flashback, they really like made sure that the makeup and the costuming really reflected the perspective that we're looking at it from. So that was also pretty good. Yeah, I agree. They definitely
00:28:49
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Yeah, they didn't go too far, but it's like, it is much more of a heightened, I mean, maybe she did look like that, but I do think, yeah, the makeup was intentionally making it look like this supernatural being and had kind of an exorcist vibe. Obviously not that far, not that crazy in the makeup, but the shot where she just pops up in the bed is,
00:29:19
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like one of the scariest shots ever. Every time, every time I see it, I mean, if you see like the gif of that, it's every time it's just so jarring and well done. Like the physicality of the actress and everything. But yeah, I agree. They did a good job of, yeah, just showing it from a child's perspective.
Flashbacks and Child's Perspective
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And
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Yeah, because I think a lot of the time flashbacks in movies are their kind of exposition, give you information, but they don't always necessarily connect to the story or emotionally. Up until that point, we don't quite know why the wife is so sensitive about death. And I think her performance,
00:30:17
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And the flashback I thought connected really well. Absolutely. Yeah. So that was a good part. Yeah. And it continued to haunt her, you know, um, which is why she probably went back. Um, but yeah, I knew, uh, so far, so good. Like what would be your overall rating for this? Out of five stars, I guess.
00:30:42
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Oh, I, yeah, that's hard. Cause I'm like, there are definitely, there's definitely, you know, big flaws and everything pointed out, but it is really rewatchable. I, yeah, it's, it's hard to, you know,
00:31:02
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rate certain movies like that but i i mean at least three stars at least three three and a half it's got rewatchability and there's some yeah it definitely does i like it more in two and a half because i thought that's exactly 50 percent of five stars um the the rewatchability for sure is there and i also think that like
00:31:24
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For the most part, it wasn't scary. For me, the cat was probably scarier than the baby blood. I would probably be able to push it to three stars just because of the production and the...
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the makeup and all of that because I think that if they had not spent really good money on that, it would have fallen to pieces with everything else that we picked up on that was like wrong with it, right? But it was money well spent in the right place.
00:32:02
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Yeah, and I mean, for me, I agree that it's not necessarily, you know, I, aside from the sister popping up in bed, which definitely the first time I watched it alone at night in a hotel room, definitely got me. Aside from that, yeah, it's not necessarily incredibly scary, but
00:32:25
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I don't necessarily need it to be, you know, so scary. I can't sleep. I really like atmosphere and a lot of it is with Stephen King books and movies. A lot of it comes down to the atmosphere for me.
00:32:42
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I really do think they, they got the vibe of kind of the isolated, isolated stretch of road is guys, the older town that's. Yeah, like, and, you know.
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just to mean the nature of like the actual like whoever found the location for the pet cemetery and build the actual the mcmack burial ground with the mounds everything that kind of stuff i really appreciate it and liked and so for me yeah more of an atmospheric like that bumps it up a little that bumps it up yeah because they really do build
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the visual narrative for you, which is so important, particularly when you're telling a story that some people have read, and so there's an expectation of what it should look like.
Mary Lambert's Directorial Achievements
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For other people who haven't read it, it's almost like those visual narratives really bring you up to speed before you go read the book.
00:33:44
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So that was really great. Interesting tidbit that I found out is that Mary Lambert made this and also worked on Madonna's life of prayer in the same year. So these are like two worlds apart.
00:34:00
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but still fascinating. And I know that originally George Romero was supposed to direct this. And I don't remember what happened or why he did it. Who knows? I don't know if this was like a passion project or if this was just something that was offered to her. But I mean, she did end up doing two of them, so it could have been. Could have been, maybe. But yeah. Oh, one thing I thought was funny just
00:34:31
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I just was taking little notes along the way. So normally, like when you have kid actors, especially really young kids, they'll find twins. And you would think like, oh, they probably had to find twins for the baby. Yeah, then that's just one kid. But the older sister was played by twins, which is funny, who I thought I thought did a good job. They had to not pick up on that. Oh, my goodness.
00:34:57
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Yeah, and I just I'd forgotten that. And I was like, Oh, that's funny that like the nine year old is twins. The baby, baby, definitely has a lot to do there at the end. Like, it was just like, how long would that have taken? Yeah, that end sequence when you can have this kid on set for like, a couple hours, like nap time. Yeah.
00:35:18
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You really have to work around his schedule there. You do. Although it's like, I guess wait until he's kind of cranky to film that scene at the end. Yes, absolutely. And he's like, no fair. No fair. Just make sure he's cranky at the end there. I just thought that was a fun little tidbit.
00:35:37
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Oh, I also really, we haven't talked about her, but I really love the character of Missy the Laundry Lady. Yes. I love her so much. And I also feel like I've seen her in some other things where I mean, mostly TV shows and I've seen her as a
00:35:52
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it older so it was really shocking to see her in a younger role right as a younger person but yeah she definitely was just no filter no filter yeah susan blomard her name i um just
00:36:08
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the first time we meet her, it's just kind of like this woman that just looks pained, like she always, always looks pained. It's like, my stomach's always hurting. It's like, yeah, she just nailed it. She nailed the lady whose stomach is always hurting. She did.
00:36:28
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Yeah, so good job. Good job. I mean, they really had some interesting characters in that. I guess some of that is also like Stephen King, but also casting the right person for that role is so important. So you can, you know, really carry through his vision for that character. Yeah.
00:36:46
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um yeah and also i thought the guy who played pascal is really good the guy who's the the student who dies and oh with the half the head yeah uh brad greenquist yeah that's the actor's name i wish he would like show up at the airport and like change my flight detail i know
00:37:03
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Yeah, yeah, I thought that was I thought that was played really well get added. You know, there was weight, there was some weight to it. And I, I thought he brought that kind of
00:37:17
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Because it's kind of, you know, it's a goofy idea, even in the book, you know, it's like, okay, so he just has this guy following him around. I know, I didn't really understand his connection to the doctor. Oh, it was because he was there when the basically when his soul discorporated from him. Okay, so he just got attached to him. So you got attached to him basically. And I do I did like though that they were able to kind of, you know,
00:37:47
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bring a little levity, like he does, you know, like the part you mentioned where he's just like, what about this other plane over here? And he's just like, subtly doing that. And, you know, when she's just like, the truck driver drops the wife off, and it's just like, I'm sure it'll all work out. And Victor's like, I don't think so. I don't think so. He's the realist. He really was just there giving great advice to everybody. He was listening to him.
00:38:13
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No, he's yeah, I love I love a good frustrated ghosts story. It reminded me just want to rest.
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00:38:22
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Yeah, it reminded me a little bit of the frighteners where they're just ghosts that are like trying to tell people things. Oh, yeah. I can't with you people.
00:38:31
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Oh yeah well it's been a great discussion um clearly we both enjoyed this movie um for same things different parts and um i can't wait to have you on again for another episode um of whatever it is we're gonna watch
00:38:49
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um soon but yes just so to conclude on the next episode we will just keep on with this theme um of scary horror movies uh halloween by female directors and so you keep an eye out on our next episode which will drop and we will be discussing movies as always subscribe to this podcast to get an alert when the next episode drop thank you for showing up and listening to the scream queen or the stream queen
00:39:16
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or the Scream Queen. I mean, any of those words. All right.