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Valley Girl (1983) dir. Martha Coolidge
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In this episode, we travel back in time to the era of leg warmers, pastel pink, and teased hair to watch Martha Coolidge’s big hit, Valley Girl. We cover Nick Cage’s debut, teen love, and more.
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Introduction and Song Dedication
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This is a song to all the ladies. I am big. It's the pictures that got small. I am Catwoman. Hear me roar.
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All this way for my advice, I feel like Oprah. Person your seat belts. It's going to be a bumpy night. What the hell? I'm not going to worry about if people accept me or not. I'm going to make Hollywood wherever I am at.
Screen Queens Podcast Introduction
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Welcome, everyone, to the Screen Queens, where we discuss movies directed by women, from the women that shattered the glass ceiling to those carrying the torch today. I'm your host, Tapia Lateu Adivo, and I'm here with my co-host, Karis Adams. Hey, hey, hey. How are you? I'm all right. I'm making it. How you doing? I'm making it, too. I'm making it. I'm doing it. I slept.
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which is a huge deal for someone who has a toddler. So I'm here. Congratulations. Thank you. I'm excited. And, you know, I love that you are on this podcast with me because it's kind of been a journey trying to find somebody to do this with.
Banter and Guest Experiences
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I've had multiple people on this podcast as guests, but I really love our kind of banter that we have about movies offline and how every now and again, you'll just
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send me a text message like, I have this thing with my class and I need your help picking a movie. And it fills me with so much joy to like do all the research and stuff. So this makes you like the perfect person to have on this podcast to kind of be my co adventurer on this journey. That's fantastic. Well, I'm honored to be here because I don't know that sometimes you get to a point where you don't want to take in content. So I've been watching Living Single for a very long time.
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I love that for you. When you reach out, you know, me too. Yeah. Me too. But when you reach out with the opportunity, it's like, Kerris, you can do it. You can watch a movie. Yeah. But thanks for inviting me. I mean, these days, like, I mean, some of the streaming channels even have commercial breaks. So, you know, you can just pause it, continue later on. I do love that. I mean, I know that I always still love the place the cinema has to be. But to go to the movie theater and sit down and watch
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something the whole way through. But postpartum and all that stuff, I don't always have the capacity to sit through a long thing. So I love streaming that gives you that opportunity to pause and maybe go get a drink, use the bathroom, maybe come back to it, particularly if there's a particularly harrowing scene that you need to make it through. So I love that streaming gives you that opportunity.
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Agreed, agreed.
Film Focus: 'Debs' and 'Valley Girl'
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So what did streaming provide to us? Well, for this month, and let me just give people a little heads up. The last time we did this podcast thing together, we watched Debs. Yeah, we did. We did. I forgot. DEBS. We did. Love You Angela Robinson. That movie was A Place and Time. It definitely really highlighted
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It was a very camp movie. I think that's what we concluded. It was very camp. It was specific to that place and time in history and we'll forever love it for where it is right there. Today's movie is very different. Today's movie is Valley Girl, directed by Martha Coolidge.
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I have been wanting to watch this movie for a really long time. It's been burning a hole in my watch list. And the reason being is that this is technically Nicolas Cage's first breakout movie. Oh, okay. Like Baby Cage. So it was that in, of course, you know, just it was something kind of really just like light and fluffy. And I do have a confession to make to anyone who's listening. I absolutely do not like rom-coms.
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So see every time so me and my husband Greg we have this like little spinner and we all it helps us like pick genre and year Every day whenever you want to watch a movie and every time it lands a romance. I'm like god damn it like I Do not want to watch a bunch of people Confessing their love to each other and you think oh they go make it and then suddenly the guy the girl does something super dumb like I just I
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I don't know. I could go on. I could have a whole podcast about why I don't like rom-coms, but I'm challenging myself. We may need to have that podcast. We may need to. Right? Yes. I get it. I get it. But I'm challenging myself to watch them. And I do love some of some rom-coms, particularly from the 80s. It's like a time and a place.
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And so this felt like a really nice way to kick off and just like restart the podcast again. And I'll just give you a little background about the director, Martha Coolidge. One of the reasons I found out about Valley Girl was because my husband really loves her movie, Real Genius. Have you ever seen that? I have not. OK, Real Genius has Val Kilma, baby Val. Oh, he is so pretty. He's so hot.
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He's a gorgeous man. And I think this is probably also one of his earlier movies, like his breakout. A lot of people in that movie became like big. And he's just this cocky like science students of college. He's like, obviously from the title, a real genius. And
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He's working with this professor. They're trying to come up with this incredible piece of scientific breakthrough. And it's just kind of the story about another kid. He's a little young to be at college and kind of the friendship that's formed with all of these nerds and the things they get up to. So it's really fun. It's a really interesting film. I highly recommend you watch it.
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And so it got me looking at other things that she had done. And I was like, Valley Girl, what's Valley Girl? And so the more that I delved into it and her work, you know, she apparently did, um, she directed a Dorothy Dangerage biopic with Halle Berry.
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which I haven't seen, but I think it was like made for TV. And, you know, she had all of these kind of big hits and then eventually just kind of went into television, directing like just TV movies and TV episodes like, you know, crime scene investigation, CIS, the Twilight Zone, Drop Dead Diva. Apparently she did an episode of Sex and the City.
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So I was like, let me see, why did you go down this route? Let me see what else you did. So that's why we're picking Valley Girl today. Cool, cool,
Challenges in Creative Industries
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cool. I love too that she made a way. Being a creative is always difficult. It's difficult to be passionate about a thing that's inherently unfair, like the arts.
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Exactly, exactly. But she made her own path and kept going, so that's pretty cool. She did. I kind of noticed as I was doing research and also just kind of finding more movies that I wanted to watch, there are a lot of female directors that start out with this dream of wanting to do features, wanting to kind of do things that will end up in a movie theater. And just from the lack of support and funding,
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they end up going you know they gotta they gotta pay the bills so like they end up going to do tv and tv episodes and so it's a lot of these singular one-hour um opportunities for them which like really sucks because girl don't we know that there are men making terrible movies all the time and they get funded
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They get funded at the drop of a hat. And so it's sad to see, particularly if you ever watched Real Genius and if you really enjoyed watching Valley Girl to just kind of feel like, okay, she had something, why would we just not continue to fund this person?
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I'm hoping that people will go watch this and really like see something and really feel like, OK, I need to see everything else that Martha Cooley just done.
Analysis of 'Valley Girl' Aesthetics
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Cool. And so then that brings us to Valley Girl. What's Valley Girl about? Well, Valley Girl, it's in the title. Valley Girl is basically about this popular, pretty, girly girl. I'm a Barbie girl. I mean, she's not really a Barbie girl,
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She's, you know, she's got that kind of like bubble gum personality from the Valley and her kind of falling for this rugged, edgy Hollywood punk Randy played by Nicholas Cage. You know, it's really like, he was a punk. She did ballet.
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That's exactly what it is. And bubble gum is the perfect way to describe the aesthetics of this movie. Oh, very much so. Like we are locked in. I mean, of course, like looking at it now, you're like, oh my God.
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Yeah, how much feathered hair do we need seriously and turquoise? Ah, it was so pink But you know, I kind of loved it too for because you know you think about it I think it was made in like 1983 that was peak that was peak it was And you know what was interesting about this is like it really started out about Julie Breaking up with her boyfriend who apparently is just like, okay. Well, I don't even know what we have in common Like yeah, he's hot
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is giving me, what's the song, Soyo Brad Pitt. It was very much like that. That don't impress me much, girl. And she was just like, I just need something else. And of course she has this electric encounter with Randy, played by Nicholas Cage.
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And she's struggling because from the world she comes from, you know, the upper middle class or middle class, you got to a really nice school. You live in the best zip code. You get to go to the mall with your friends and they're all high. You're going to be prom queen, no doubt.
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And you have this guy who's just like, I don't care what society wants from me. I'm kind of living on the edge. I like stay out at night. You know, I'm like a nerd slash punk slash, you know, it's very obviously from the eighties, they always distinguish between those two classes of people. Very Romeo, very Juliet, which is really interesting because one of the shots they're like standing in front of a movie theater and it has Romeo Juliet up on the side. So I was like, girl, I see what you did there.
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I also have in my notes, like why do we like the Romeo and Juliet trope?
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Yeah, because it did end very well. It did well. It doesn't end well. No. Perhaps we can get to that. But you're absolutely right. It's set in the valley. It's the 1980s, early 1980s at the end. Everything is bubblegum peak. Everything has light blue. Malls are the one place that you would go to shop, right? Shop, yeah, yeah. Amazon has not been purchased yet. No.
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I don't picked up those shoes and I was like, see, the difference between you and me girls, I would have checked under the shoe for the price. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Actually, you're right. The first scene is them shopping. Yeah. Right. It's supposed to set up this idea like, oh, this is Americana right here.
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Well, let me ask you this though, teenage carers, what were you doing? That's so funny. I had a teenage question for you too. Teenage carers grew up with a dad who was a bus driver and a mechanic and a mom who's also a bus driver. We went to Ross and we went to Marshall's.
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Okay, maybe a cold and when I asked to like walk around with my friends What would you do that you don't have any money?
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He said, he goes, why would you do that? You can't just walk around. And do what? And do what? And so it happened maybe once and it never happened again. Oh, that's so funny. No, I feel like my mom had the same, like my mom would always want to come with me to the mall, which obviously as a teenager was like so not cool.
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And I got to a point where, like, you know, I was allowed to go and we would just kind of wander from shop to shop looking at things that we definitely were not going to buy, but we were going to try on. And, you know, it was nice. I mostly went to the mall as a way to meet boys. Let me just be honest, like my parents are very conservative, very Christian. And so I'd be like, I'm going to the mall with my friends. But really, I was it was it was a meetup date with some blitz as well.
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That's cute. Yeah, it was cute. It's bubblegum cute, you know? I had my moment. It is. It is bubblegum cute. And so, like, I really felt like she nailed kind of the teen experience, the house parties, the, you know, like, because at first when I was watching it and I was thinking to myself, you know, because sometimes when you see, particularly nowadays, when you see, like,
Critiques of 'Valley Girl' Scenes
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depiction of teenagers, it sometimes feels a little adultified. And, you know, teens are adultified in certain ways, but, you know, you'll watch like Euphoria and they're going to a club and I'm like, who is letting you into these places? Like, I wouldn't have, I mean, obviously different upbringing, but I would never have dared it to just like, one, leave home that late, go to a club.
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take drugs in that way. And I feel like the way that it was depicted, at least in this movie, felt a little more closer to home. The mall, eating burgers and fries, going to your friend's house party, getting dressed up at your friend's place. Those all felt very, very real, realistic. Yeah, for sure. Like the first 20 minutes of the movie,
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they are establishing the differences, or one, they're just establishing the world of the ballot. And it's supposed to be all American, honest, and has a sense of positivity to it.
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even if there is some weird stuff happening, right? But it's supposed to be like really, really hopeful. Yes, exactly. I mean, I'm trying to think, like, what was going on in 1983 in the news because it was very much not happening here. Exactly. It wasn't happening. And so there's something to be said about that. And the antithesis of the valley or to the valley, maybe is Nick Cage and his friend, Fred, which I'm like, Fred, is his name?
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Ain't no punk called Fred. Yeah. So Randy and Fred with, okay, what are the two colors that punks always wear? Red and black. Red and black. Red and black. And it's always a little DIY. Yeah.
00:15:35
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They cut off the sleeves and everything. And I was like, yeah, I would have rocked that look. That wasn't too bad. And I think at some point, Fred had like, he keeps changing the color of his hair, the top part. And it was like a red and then there was a blue. I think at some point it was a purple. And I was like, boy, this cannot be good for your roots. Yeah.
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And so somehow, some way, there's a party being thrown. And I think it's by Susie, who's one of Julie's best friends. And Nick, see, that's one of the hard things. Like, I can't think of him as Randy. I just keep thinking of him as Nick or Stane. But I'll try. Randy and Fred are invited to this party where they are dancing
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very interestingly, and serving sushi as a snack. Oh my God. That sushi scene made me cringe so much. Let me tell you why. Because
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I'm going to just here, here's me alienating all my audience real quick. It was such a white thing. Like, first of all, they took all of the wasabi, dumped it and made a little sauce with the soy and then just slatted it on top of all of the sushi. And I was like.
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This is not the way. Yeah. Yeah. They were kind of eating it like as if it was a charcuterie board or something like scooping up cheese and putting it on the top. You know, it's true what they say. Money don't buy you taste like it really doesn't like to have all of that sushi, which is supposed to be refined. And, you know, the cut of fish is supposed to be like the best cut. And you just drown it in the sauce. Oh, man. I was just like, no, no, no, no, no, no.
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I was also disturbed by the fact that it's, and this is also a COVID thing for me. I mean, it's always been a thing, but definitely after COVID, I look at all that kind of stuff differently, but that there's just this.
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massive amount of food, and everyone has their hands on it. Yes. And it's warm. And you know, you know, teenage boys don't brush their hands, girl. Like, they do not. They go into the bathroom. They're coming out. They put their hands on. Oh, God, I'm already in chills. Yeah. And that was happening at that party, right? People are going in and out. People are making out with each other, touching your handles. And so very quickly, Randy and Fred realized that this is not the place for us to be.
00:18:03
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But not quicker than Tommy, Julie's newly ex-boyfriend who decides to pick a fight and and throw them out. Which is wild because just just five minutes before he had his hands on Julie's best friend's breast.
00:18:19
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Exactly. And this is men being so possessive. I feel like we have a whole subject about love, love, love on here. But the possessiveness of it all, I'm going to try to get any of these girls here to make Julie jealous. Julie is like, I don't care. It's over.
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And as soon as he sees her with somebody else, it's like I'm the idea that we have to fight for a girl, like beat up each other. And that's going to impress. It's so primitive. It's so like caveman. Like, no, it is very primitive. That's exactly what it is. Tommy, read a book.
00:19:00
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Yeah. It's like, no, this is not sexy. This is not you initiative, which I feel like some of Julie's friends throughout the movie. Yeah.
00:19:12
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try to spend Tommy's behavior as like just being so in love. Yeah. He's lost his mind. He's lost his mind. I'm like, no, this is business abuse. No, it is abuse. And, you know, I kind of want to go back to Nicholas Cage for a second and.
00:19:35
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giving that this was his initial role. Like, it's weird. Over the last week, I've seen three Nicolas Cage movies. Unintentionally. I know. That's a lot of Cage. So wait, has it been, like, spread out until you're seeing him age? Is it? Yeah. And pretty much. Pretty much. So, like, what was it? OK, first one was the, well, actually, you know, Valley Girl actually aged backwards because Valley Girl was the the last one that I watched.
Cage's Charisma and Casting Impact
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But before that, I watched Dream Scenario, which is the most recent
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movie that he's made. And you know, it's a he's very old. He's balding a bald spot. Have you seen that movie? I haven't seen it, but it looked interesting because he's appearing at people's dreams. And it's actually it's great. I love him in it.
00:20:23
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Like, it's one of those things where, like, you realize that, yes, Nicolas Cage is an action star, but he is also an actor. Like, he really takes his role seriously. And so I watched him in that, and then I think it was either in between that in Valley Girl, you know, it came up on TV, Moonstruck. Oh, yeah. And she's in that, too. So literally, it is him aging backwards. It's very vintage. It sure is.
00:20:51
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But it made me see like, oh, man, you know, like just kind of his evolution as an actor. If you take out kind of the action hero stuff like, you know, the bullets and the guns and the tough guy and you just kind of see him really just get into a role and dig into his teeth. Like he actually he is a great actor. He does his own thing that puts Nicolas Cage on it. Right. And
00:21:21
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What's really interesting to me, and I found this out years ago, is that he's actually from, like, movie dynasty. Like, he is the nephew of Francis Port Coppola.
00:21:32
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Oh, well, didn't know that. Yeah, he is Sofia Coppola's cousin. And I guess starting out, he was like, I want to be in movies, but I want to be selected because I'm an actor, because I'm good at it, not because of my uncle's name or my name. And so he changed his name to Cage. So his name is really Nicholas Coppola. So he changed his name to Cage and.
00:21:59
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He initially was on the reject pile for this movie. And I guess Martha Coolidge was like, I don't want a traditional hot guy for this role of Randy. I want someone that exudes sexy, like you would be like, oh, am I really attracted to this guy?
00:22:18
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That kind of thing, right? And Nicolas Cage, yeah, absolutely perfect. He's not traditionally beautiful, but there is something charismatic about him. And so she picks up his photo off the reject piles like this guy. Let's call this guy in. She looks at his audition tape. He has great chemistry with the actress that plays Julie. And apparently there was some kind of conflict.
00:22:41
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with him being in this movie, I guess he was going to be in another film. And the film was with Francis Ford Coppola. It wasn't like a huge role or anything. So she calls up the studio and she's like, hey, by the way, is it OK if you let this guy go so he can be in my movie? And that's how she found out that they are.
00:22:58
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They're related. Because she didn't know when she picked him, she didn't know. But it kind of goes to show that he did have something very early on. And, you know, he said that some of the advice that Martha gave him
00:23:17
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when he started out, because he was very young in this role, has been the advice that he has used in every movie that he's been in. So in a way, she made the Nicolas Cage that we know today. In that wild? Martha. It is wild. Kingmaker. Looking at Martha doing that work. Yes. Kingmaker over here, you know? And learning about that again after watching three Nicolas Cage movies in a week, and I was like, girl, Martha, you should be getting commission right now. Yeah, really, 10 percent.
00:23:50
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And I think I think choosing him really made a difference because I feel like I could sense the chemistry between those two. For sure. And I think what you were saying about his look like Nicholas Cage is a handsome man. But when we toss him up against all the other people that we find kind of traditionally handsome.
00:24:10
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Yeah, he doesn't always hit that same mark. No. And that's because of something that we have agreed to. It's like in conditioning. Right. Yeah. But in this movie, although young and has crazy hair, he has adorable big eyes. He does. He. Oh, my God. As a teenager girl, I thought. Oh.
00:24:32
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I love him, silent but deadly. I don't know why, but that was like a thing for me as a teenager. So any man that spoke 10 words, I was like, that's the one. That's one screen. Mm-hmm. He just looks at you. He just looks at you. To the eyes. To the eyes, right. Nicholas Cage has that going on in the movie. Yeah, he does. He does. I mean, I think about his other movies now where he just kind of
00:24:59
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does the eyes. Yeah. Yeah. Are you, are you low? Let's see. Let's see. So Nicholas Cape. So Randy and Fred get thrown out of the party. They start to leave, but they turn around.
00:25:17
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because Randy has so much passion in his heart. He's like, no, that girl is for me. Yeah. And how dare this guy toss me out of a party that I wasn't invited to. Exactly. How dare he? Just because I'm a punk. And so he goes back to his house and climbs in through the bathroom window. Creepy.
00:25:39
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Right? And you keep your eye on that. There's some more creepy behavior that happens that we think in the 1980s was love. Apparently. Apparently. There's some love. It glows into the bathroom and hides out in the shower waiting for her to come into the bathroom. On the off chance that she's going to need to use the bathroom. On the off chance that she needs to use the bathroom. Let me tell you, you know me well. Have you ever seen me use somebody else's bathroom? No.
00:26:09
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No, my best of friends, I've been in your bathroom. We have a good friend named Christina. I've been in Christina's bathroom. Other than that, I don't use other people's bathrooms. I try my best not to. He would have been waiting there forever in a day for you. He really would have. He really would have him in those big pretty eyes. But eventually she comes in and he rescues her from the party. Yes.
00:26:37
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And to the form, she reads with the best friend, which I thought was very smart. And I would totally do that. I can't count the amount of times I've dragged my best friend Priya and be like, so let's go. And she's like, where we go, I was like, well, I'm going to meet this boy. And she's like, oh, my God.
00:26:50
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Exactly. Take someone with you, even to this day. I haven't gone out on any dates in a long time. But if I was, or if I had someone coming over, I send a text to a friend. You know, like, hey, here's the making model of his car. Here's his pictures. That's just security number. As much as I can, because it's weird, you know? It's been weird times.
00:27:13
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I mean, it's just women's safety. You guys don't think about that. If they bring a friend along, it's so that they can both score. But when a girl brings another girl along, it's like, I need to feel safe. I don't know what's going to happen. Exactly. I don't know what's going to happen. So her and her friend, I can't remember which friend it was. Oh, that's a good question.
00:27:35
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It wasn't the one who it wasn't Lauren hosting the house party and it wasn't the blonde one that Tommy was touching her. Yeah. Her very, very special movies. I like how their names are like Susie, Susie, Julie, Lauren.
00:27:55
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But we can continue. I will find the name. You'll find it for me. I will. They leave with them. They leave together. Her and her friend, Randy and Fred get in the car. Something that looks like a stinking Lincoln. I don't know what it was, but it was a big body vehicle. That's great. I got to keep that in the stinking Lincoln stinking Lincoln.
00:28:18
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And what do they do? They go to his home away from home, like you said. A bar. A bar. Which I'm like, who is letting this teenagers into this bar? And suddenly, like even the lighting changes. Everything is like moody and dark and red. And red. Yeah. This place reminded me of emos. Did you ever go to emos? Yeah. Yeah. Who's giving strong email Baba Rella vibes for sure. And this is for people in Austin. Shout out.
00:28:46
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Yes, Barbarella for sure. Dancing, music, probably some interesting smells. Everything's a little moist. It's that kind of... You're like, oh god, oh god, no.
00:29:02
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It's coming back. That kind of place. But he says that it's his home away from home. And they have a discussion about a really on the surface discussion about the differences between the city, which is Los Angeles, and the Valley. Yeah. And how, which I think is always funny at this point in time, that the Valley, everyone is living. What did he say? You're all being controlled by the man. He's like, so is LA. Yeah, so is LA. It's LA, right?
00:29:31
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It's hard not to look at that place or that depiction of LA and know what you know now about LA. Yes. So I'm being a little unfair, but at the same time, it's like, okay, whatever. Of course, LA is bad and dangerous. People are drinking, smoking. There are people of color walking around. Oh, not the people of color. Not the people of color. They're dancing. There's lights.
00:29:57
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I know, not the lights. I mean, it's kind of, I mean, you could probably see in the difference between like, you know, living in a city versus a suburbia. There's always been that different mentality, even though, and like under the surface, this kind of some racial.
00:30:15
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changed to it when they're actually talking about the city for sure, you know, the whole like white flight to the suburbs for this life that is clean and better and, you know, middle class, upper class, that kind of thing. I mean, I feel like you could feel in this pretty much anywhere like Chicago, New York or for sure. Yeah, definitely a class element to it or racial element to it. Yeah. That.
00:30:40
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I think you and I could never not see. Yeah. You know, never not read into it. But all in all, it still goes back to a Romeo and Juliet thing, like two different people, two different families, two different places. Yes. But they they they keep going. They are in love, damn it. And then they have a make out scene and a car. And so this is one of my first questions was. I'm sorry, Greg.
00:31:11
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I will be as transparent as possible. Was make-outs as a teenager in the car. Do you have any? Well, you're from the UK. Y'all have trains and stuff. We didn't have cars. Y'all have cars because we had cars. Oh, no. We made out behind the bicycle shed. That's where we made out. I was from Cambridge. Everybody was cycling, you know? Or you made out of the back of the bus.
00:31:42
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Oh, nice, nice. If you were a cool kid, you would sit in the back of the bus. Even to this day, I hate that.
00:31:54
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I hate it a bit. I hate it now. I'm like, I refuse. I hate my dollar to 15 cents. Rosa Parks didn't do what she did for us to sit in the back of the bus. Exactly. Exactly. I was like, I refuse. So there was no making out on any bus for me, but definitely in cars because my 15, 16 people were starting to drive and have cars. For those of you out there in the listening world, I am from Dallas, Texas.
00:32:20
Speaker
So buses came every 30 minutes. You know, like now they're making out 30 minutes. And then my God, my parents work for the bus company. Could you imagine me trying to make out? Yeah. And it was your dad's bus or someone that's like, I know your mother.
00:32:43
Speaker
That would never happen. We definitely made out in some cars and the movie theater. Yes. The movie theater was big. The movie theater. Now, I remember going to see The Matrix and my boyfriend at the time wanted to make out in the back of the movie theater. And I was like, hi, I actually want to watch the movie.
00:33:04
Speaker
And so I get pressured into, I make out with him and there's this man in the sun right next to me. And I regret that. Sorry, man, and your son. Hopefully you don't remember this. Yeah. I'm like, okay, okay. We've done it now. Can we, can we please, I want to watch the movie. Doing that. Oh my gosh.
00:33:27
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make-outs, man. But it's beautiful. I feel like it was a tasteful make-out. It wasn't like the make-outs that you see here where they're literally trying to eat each other, consume each other. It was very shy and we're still figuring out what this is. But I think for Martha Coolidge, this script was apparently written in 10 days. So it was very short. Interesting. And the movie felt very kind of compact, right?
00:33:57
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straightforward story. Guy meets girl, girl meets guy, two worlds apart type thing. The way she really fleshed it out for me was the montage where she shows them gradually falling in love, learning about each other, finding out about each other. And I was really surprised because if this was a modern
00:34:19
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movie, they would have been boning by now. And there was a point where, like, I think one of Julie's friends was asking her, like, how far are they gone? And she was like, yeah, we haven't gotten that far. Like, we've made it out. And there's something kind of, you know, sweet about that, particularly when you're in high school. And there is that pressure to, like, really move fast when it comes to your sexual experience. And that connection with them was just greater than
00:34:49
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physical. And I think she says that she's like, I feel like we have a connection. I feel like there's something there that is just beyond whether you're just a hot guy.
Deeper Connections in 'Valley Girl'
00:35:00
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And I love that. If there's anything that's going to make me watch rom coms, it's that kind of conversation that it's not just raw sexual energy, that it's something more.
00:35:13
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Yeah, I agree with that. The raw sexual energy while it can be nice. Yeah. It fades after a while. Yes. And then when it's in a movie or when it's being depicted in a movie, it's really difficult as a viewer and as someone like myself who over analyzes to see it. It's like I don't get what's happening here. Yeah. If you are not like attracted to that person, too, it's hard for you to understand, like, wait, like, why are you into this?
00:35:43
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I like. Yeah, absolutely. So we have a good like three minutes of montage. Yeah. And what are all the elements needed for a 1980s montage? But you need a good music. You got a the beats. You got some music. Yeah, they got it. You have to be crossing a street going past the lights.
00:36:06
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It was like, we were like, why do I depict that? I'm in downtown L.A. Lights, lights, lights, lights, lights, lights. There's constantly lights, the mall. You're cruising down the street in the car. Yeah. You know, your best friend's ride, that kind of thing. Exactly. And they're like cuddled up in the car while they do it, wind in the hair kind of thing. Yeah. Going to them all together, laughing and shoving food in each other's mouths. Oh, so cute. Soo shee.
00:36:35
Speaker
There was no more sushi after that it was pretty much just here's a fry And it was really sweet. I really loved the montage I think the montage is probably my favorite part because I started to understand Like they were goofy in the same way like they understood each other's like level of humor and it made sense because
00:36:55
Speaker
you know, she had dumped Tommy because she was missing that. She didn't have that with him. And Tommy, personally, I did not find Tommy to be hot at all. I think like one of his friends was hotter, but like the fact that it was just like he, she was just with him because he was the thing that you had to be with if you were the popular girl, right? You know, he had all of the external elements and to have something else with somebody that was like,
00:37:23
Speaker
fun and she could she didn't have to be like her best self she could just be like you know i think even the way that she dressed changed like she did yeah he's less like oh i gotta put up like put on my face it didn't have to be fully beat you know like i could just have a t-shirt i could just like rock be normal um and you know i mean is that's love being able to be yourself with somebody your best self with somebody
00:37:48
Speaker
Yeah. Or your worst self, right? Like how, you know, work through that. Um, it's a shortly after the montage, she goes to a sleepover at a friend's house. I got a thing about that.
00:38:03
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Sleepover is another thing that happens a lot, apparently. What are you thinking about the sleepover? No, it was less about the fact that they had a sleepover and more of my commentary is more about the friends. But you say your piece. Oh, no, it was it was definitely about the friends. Right. I was like, OK, are they jealous or are they concerned?
00:38:24
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And I could never quite land on where the friends stood or if they were concerned about image or if they were concerned about Julie, but they just put a lot of pressure on her and created this idea that she has to choose between Tommy and Randy. And it's like, well, what did there's no choice? The choice. She already made her choice. She dumped Tommy. Tommy's not even in the equation, but they can bring him into the equation and like,
00:38:50
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I think for me, you know, this is this is probably more a general conversation about friendships. Like I think that it's really, you know, it's great if you have friends, they're like, oh, no, this person isn't good for you and you shouldn't be with them. Like I think that that's important in friendship to have those honest conversations. But I think that good friends also recognize when you are better with somebody like when someone has brought something new and interesting. And you could really tell that Julie was happy. She was having a great time. But
00:39:20
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I think that it was an image thing. They all have grown up together. They've all gone to the same school. They all have the same idea about what type of life they want. And it's like, they're gonna marry somebody like Tommy. They're gonna have this many kids together.
00:39:38
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and Randy entering the picture. And I think they even talk about that because at one point somebody was like, is she going to marry him or something? Like they made it. See, I was like, guys, you're in high school. Yeah. No, no, no. Yeah. No, we boning for like a good few years. And it's this idea that like.
00:39:57
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They this like dream that they've all collective dream, they all had together that somebody is no longer part of the pack like this, you know, and if Julie isn't following the rules, what does that mean for all of them? You know, and the fact that they really encouraged her to go back to this toxic guy who, you know, is happy to pick a fight. It was willingly sleep with one of them like in a drop at the drop of a hand.
00:40:25
Speaker
and spread rumors about it. Rumors. And I'm just like, why? And I think what really frustrated me was that I think it was Lauren, the girl that he tried to sleep with, who was like, nah. I was like, tell your friend. I mean, you don't have to like say, oh, he tried to sleep with me. But at least you know that he's not a good guy. Like, why would you encourage or stand back while the other friends encourage you to go back to this guy that is clearly not good? Like, you know, whether or not you think Randy is great for her,
00:40:53
Speaker
like encouraging her to go back to something that is not good. And she recognized it wasn't good enough for her to leave because she wanted better. I was just like, this is some bullshit. And I'm lucky enough to have friends that obviously would support me if they find me with somebody that is making me happy. So I was kind of very annoyed by the whole girl dynamic going on. For sure. Me too.
00:41:23
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It's hard to remember that age and that age through this lens. Yes. Can we been through it?
00:41:34
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Yeah. Some form of fashion, whether it's in your late teens to your early twenties, like the early twenties of dating is not too far from this kind of thing. Like you said, they don't like difference. And she, they say very, very early on, um,
00:41:54
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you know, when Julie starts talking about, like, yeah, I think I'm going to break up with Tommy. It's like one of the first scenes in the movie. Yeah. And she's looking at another guy. Yeah. They say you can't have them all. Right. And so there's this idea that she kind of possesses and has all the things that they want. Yeah. She has a cheap guy. Yeah. Yeah. And he's hot. Her dad calls him Lancelot.
00:42:18
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Oh my god, her dad was probably the best friend that she needed because he was just like, who cares what your friends think? Like if they are friends, they will support when someone is making you happy. I was like, dude.
00:42:36
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I don't even have the words. For 83, for a guy to be like, you know, giving some of this best advice, advice from a grown person perspective. And I was just like, girl, listen to your dad. I, you know, I don't always say listen to your dad, but listen to your dad. I thought it was really good. Like her dad, her dad.
00:42:56
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I saw immediately, I was like, oh, you have the hippie parents, like your parents were the hippies in the seventies and get high and stuff. Which you see later on that her dad is like trying to smoke a joint in the bathroom and not be bothered.
00:43:12
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But he comes from a different era where he's like his era fought hard against the ideas that are in the Valley. Yes, exactly. Which is funny because that's where he ended up anyway. That's where he ended up anyway. But he's actively like working hard against that. Even when she comes home like late after that very first date, they don't punish her. You said they want to have a conversation about it. And they say that it's bad karma if we punish you.
00:43:41
Speaker
Tell me you were not raised by a black parent without telling me you weren't raised by a black parent. Really? I know. I don't even know if my parents know the word karma. I don't think they know or care. No. But yeah, it gives her some sage advice and she did. Did she listen though? No.
00:44:00
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No. I mean, it's really interesting that it came from a man and not from, you know, there's normally in those scenes, it's like a mother to daughter conversation. And I love that, you know, Martha switched it up and was like, yeah, why wouldn't the dad, if there's anybody that knows about these F boys, it's going to be the dad. Like, of course he's going to give you this advice. So I absolutely love that. And, you know, I
00:44:26
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You know, I didn't understand why, I mean, I guess I do, you know, as a teenager, you don't really listen to your parents as much as you should. Your friends are really kind of the epicenter of your morality, of your values and all of that. So I get why like that eventually won out because, um, you know, the breakup with Nick and also Nikki, baby, don't be showing up at people's houses without calling first. Like, Oh yeah.
00:44:53
Speaker
Yeah, he shows up as she's thinking through all of these things. Yes. He talks to her dad. This is right after the sleepover. And she's made a decision that she's going to get back together with Tommy. She clearly regrets the decision and doesn't want to do it. She also.
00:45:10
Speaker
wants to be popular. She wants to continue to be invited to parties and continue to hang out with her friends. Something that her friends brought up is like, well, if you continue dating this guy, we're not inviting you to parties. He can't come anywhere. They're real life consequences for her that feel like the end of her world as she knows it. Exactly. Exactly. And so, um, Randy shows up.
00:45:33
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And, you know, being all cute and stuff that he just like wants to tell her that he loves her. You know, she picks a fight. I mean, I think it also is because she was also struggling and it was like she she hasn't had a space to really think about and really come to
00:45:53
Speaker
just really like deal with the decision that she's making and then all of a sudden it's like oh now you're here my face like go away you know like yeah and I think that him showing up on announce really pushed her over to make the wrong decision and yeah it was you know one thing that I had
00:46:13
Speaker
learned about this fight was like it was really, really hard for them. Like it was one of the hardest scenes to film. Oh, that's interesting. Apparently they were like dating in real life. Oh, okay. And they had them broken up. They were like, obviously they really liked each other in life, which is why they had so much good chemistry. So have you filmed a breakup scene before you've actually even broken up in real life? Yeah. It took a lot of takes to get that. Oh, that's interesting.
00:46:39
Speaker
feel it like just the way Julie was emotional and like Randy's eyes was already like red for probably the fifth time he's cried during this scene. It was it was it was a tough breakup scene. I could see it. Yeah, it was, you know, it was tough for me because in this. You're from the UK because you're going to be like, that's not a problem.
00:47:07
Speaker
I cannot have somebody telling me, fuck you. Oh, see, I knew it because it's like some people use it in like a funny thing, like, oh, fuck you, you know, or something like that. Yeah. But see, the word we would have thrown out to really hurt you would have been the C word. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. Y'all like y'all like to see you next Tuesday. You know, love it. Yeah. Yeah. I cannot do a fuck you if you tell me. I'm like.
00:47:34
Speaker
But someone told me that that's because I'm from Texas and people from the South get angrier quicker. No, no. Y'all do reach like zero. I have been known to lose my temper from time to time, but it takes me a really long time to get there. 60 seconds. It all takes 60 seconds.
00:48:03
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It's a slow 16, but we don't get there. But we don't get there. And that was one of my things because he started yelling. Of course, he's frustrated. He's like, yeah, you don't have to do this. Yeah. You are letting people dictate our relationship. But then he yells, fuck you. And he's like leaving. Like for real. Yeah, for real.
00:48:23
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Totally. Totally. Oh, yeah. That's what I knew. I was like, that's Nick Cage right there. Nick Cage, the actor, that's him. That was an ad lit. That was not in the script. No, no, it was not in the script. Could you be with someone that yelled fuck you after an argument?
00:48:42
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I don't know at this day and age is different. No, it would be very hurtful. It'd be hard to, but I feel like even as a teenager, if somebody even said if they apologize, like we fight all the time as teenagers and then we make up so quickly. So I feel like, yeah, they probably would have.
00:49:00
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being like oh yeah you said that that water under the bridge let's just make out you know yeah yeah i'm not sure i'm not sure carrots now absolutely not no and then maybe carrots then as a young person like in my teens like you said it would probably take
00:49:20
Speaker
You'd have to apologize and it would take me a couple of times. Yeah. A couple of interactions to warm up to you again. But I mean, it kind of did in this case, like he was popping up and pretending to be the the concierge guy in the theater. He popped up and tried to be the waiter when they drove in for some burgers. And this this is how dumb Tommy is. At no point did Tommy realize that this is the man that he beat up.
00:49:48
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Not once. Yeah, exactly. This guy has been showing up and he's been a problem for you and you did not recognize him like his disguises weren't they weren't that great. They were only like glasses or a voice. Yeah. So after they break up.
00:50:06
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Uh, Tommy, not Tommy, I'm sorry. Randy licks is one of those for a little bit. He gets you drunk and makes out with a girl at his bar, his home away from home. And then Fred gives him the advice of you got to get crazy. Yeah. You got to get crazy romantic gestures. Girls love this. Anything moment, you know? What was that other movie with the
00:50:31
Speaker
with the title cards where he's telling her, like, I love you, but I can't. Oh, oh, the love, actually. Love, actually. Yeah. Which that's a problematic scene all by itself. I said what I said. OK. That's somebody else's woman. No. Yeah. And how bold to do it, like just standing there while he's in the house. Yeah. What if he answered the door? Anyway, side note. Watch it. It's not him.
00:50:59
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female-directed movie, but they'll watch it. Yeah, yeah. But the grand gesture, right? Fred basically gives him advice to make a series of grand gestures. And somehow, some way, Randy shows up as the burger boy, as the concierge of the movie theater. I feel like that was one other one that I can't remember. Before showing up at Junior Prom,
00:51:21
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I'm funny when they like all dressed up in stuff showing up in the limo and she's decided to be with Tommy but obviously like over time Tommy has just been annoying her just the existence his mere existence has gotten her just like Oh God, we gonna be prom king and queen. I can't even I can't even stand being next to you right now. Oh
00:51:42
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Yeah, she won't let him kiss. She was giving very much Melania Trump energy. Like, no, you can't hold my hand. No. No. No. Flicking his hand away and stuff. Yes. I called Randi's. I put it in my notes that Randi's
00:52:01
Speaker
Grand gestures equal stalking. Yeah, but they do. They do. I mean, in the 80s, that was all the rage. I sometimes even think they still have that now in modern movies. And I don't. Yeah. Men, if you are listening, it's not it's not cute unless we invite you. It's not cute. Like, I don't want to. If I bump into you, like, that's a different story. But.
00:52:24
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I don't want you showing up constantly like what I'm trying to process things like. Exactly. Exactly. Oh, so this is also what he does. Randy jumps in her car on the way to school. Yes. Oh, that was dedicate songs to her on the radio. OK, that was kind of cute.
00:52:42
Speaker
He's sweet. That was cute. That was cute. That was probably the least creepiest thing. It was the most normal thing, because that's what you did. You did that, though. Did you ever do it? Yeah. Oh, no. But I loved the... I think I might have told you about this. So in the UK, they have this radio station that if a guy is hounding you for your phone number, you give that person the radio's number. And it looks like a normal number. And they can call and leave a voicemail. And they play it on the radio at midnight.
00:53:12
Speaker
It is my favorite, favorite. I mean, I try to remember what it was called, but it was my favorite thing to listen to you because without doubt, the guy would always call her while he was drunk. I say, it's me. Remember, we met in this office. You will fit, baby. Oh, OK. Call me back.
00:53:39
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And I'm just like, okay, first of all, why didn't you even call the number to make sure? But yeah, like, I mean, the radio thing is super cute. I love that.
00:53:53
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everything else was. Everything else was stalking, even sleeping on the front yard, on the front line. Yes. Oh, I forgot that was the other thing. Yeah, it was no, no, no, no. Yeah. And then then we finally get to where he shows up at the prom. He fights with Tommy. Tommy loses and they run off together. But in like gangster fashion, those cars slash limo do they run off in?
00:54:22
Speaker
Tommy's. Tommy's, right? And they get in the car and then the limo driver asks to the Sheridan. He goes, yeah. Uh huh. Which is crazy because Julie didn't know that they were going to go to a hotel after. That was my big problem too. Yeah. That Tommy, Tommy. Her friends knew. Her friends knew. And I thought that was gross.
00:54:46
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He was like, I won't get it tonight. And then she was just like, you ain't even getting a kiss from me on stage. Exactly. Not even on stage. So I didn't like the fact that these men made that decision. Yeah. But again, I am nearing 40. I'm a 40 year old womanist. And so I mean, look at you young. No, you know, I know. I know. I know. My chiropractor told me I have bursitis.
00:55:24
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Oh my gosh. So that's where the movie ends with them, I guess, having a love time. You know what's really interesting? It took me like a minute to recognize this, but did you ever watch The Graduate from 1967 with Dustin Hoffman? That scene is the end of the scene is the same one.
00:55:35
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What does he know? You don't know what you're talking about. Help me out.
00:55:45
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I did. I know that too. Yeah. It's a little different because I feel like in the graduate, they're on a bus and there's this, they start smiling, but their smiles fade and it's kind of this like, Oh, what have we done? Whereas like in this one, it's like, there's this realization of like,
00:56:05
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I mean, for Julie, there's kind of relief. Like, I don't care anymore. Like, whatever. They want to shun me, whatever. Like, I'm happy. This is where I want to be. And he's happy that he finally got her, even though, you know, his path there was maybe not something that I would encourage.
00:56:21
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But I love that kind of tribute to the graduate, because it's really interesting. We don't talk about this, but at some point in the film, there is the whole teenager trying to sleep with a high schoolers mom. I was just about to bring it up. Yeah. There's a couple of things that kind of point towards the graduate.
00:56:37
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And so Susie, who is Julie's friend, the one that seems to have the money and the party, is being raised by a single mother or a stepmother? I wasn't quite sure. I think it's her mother, but the father might not be her father, maybe. OK, there we go. So maybe it's the stepdad. And Susie is really interested in this dude named Skip. Yeah.
00:57:03
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And Skip, not a bad looking kid, but Skip is very interested in Susie's mother. He was getting the graduate. Yeah, they're flirting. He's trying to call during that time and stopping by the house when Susie isn't there. Susie's not home, yeah. Yeah. And that was another thing that I was curious about. It's like, why do we like that trope? I don't. I mean, you know, Cece's mom has got it going on.
00:57:35
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I love it. Good, good one. Good one. But I mean, there is, you know me, you know, I'm going to be doing this a lot. But I mean, I think there are it's not.
00:57:48
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abnormal for like a young guy to see a very good looking, you know, I like to think that when my son is older and I walk into his high school, that's, you know, someone might try something. I mean, he will fail. I want to be the hot mom. And I think, you know, there's something about a woman that is, um,
00:58:07
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She knows what she's doing. You know, some some boys are really into that. Like, you know, they don't want a young girl. They don't want they don't want to take a girl's virginity. They don't want somebody that is going to be clingy and they feel like an older woman who's already been through it is like going to give them what they need is going to teach them something. And it's it's a trope, but it's it's a trope that
00:58:28
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Happens a lot like we still see even when you look at celebrities who are with all the women there I mean, have you seen sure his boyfriend? I have not I haven't seen her latest boyfriend is 30 something
00:58:42
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And she is 70. And let me tell you, he is very happy. Yeah, I bet. And, you know, it happens. And I, you know, I obviously with the high school age gap thing, not so cool. But it's not something that's completely unnatural, I think, from a guy who's developing, you know. This would be great, Greg, if Greg was to insert.
00:59:08
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Tell us, tell us what you think. Yeah, I was like, Greg, any, you know, older ladies that you fans said, I'm sure he has a lot, a lot, a lot, a lot, a lot. But yes, so I loved the call out to the graduate. I think what was really different here is that instead of panning out that he does end up sleeping with the mom, he ends up sleeping with the daughter instead. And I think
00:59:34
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you know, maybe that's the difference between having a woman directed and a man directed. Who knows? Like, I mean, it'd be really interesting to hear from other stories, like, where this trope has existed. Like, does it carry out in the same way? Or did Mars give it a completely different... Because when I saw that shower scene, I was like, oh, there he goes. He's with the mom. At some point in the movie, Skip is like riding his bike down the street. And he stops by.
01:00:02
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And we get the idea of how it's edited that he's stopping by to see the mom. Yeah, right. There's no car in the driveway. But something tells him yet again, another problematic thing, just like going to house. Okay, yeah, apparently, it was open in the 80s.
01:00:19
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Apparently, so he just walks into the house and then he hears and sees a foggy image of someone in the shower. And of course, we jumped to him in bed with someone very beautiful. I will say it was like, yeah, beautifully filmed. Yes. Very very tasteful of him and someone else in the throes of love and passion. Only to then the door
01:00:45
Speaker
comes open, swings open, and it's actually Susie's mother, Beth, looking at Susie's gift in the bed. Yeah. Yeah. And I liked that twist because definitely in my mind, I was like... It got me. Yeah, it definitely got me. So good job, Martha, on that one. You know, speaking of just like tasteful shots, like one of the things that Martha said that she struggled with was that, you know, the studios wanted her to show tits.
01:01:14
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Well, she didn't want to show tits. They wanted to show tits and they were like, you have to show it at least four times because how else will guys be interested in this movie? Okay. Yeah. She was like, um, they never said how long those tits had to be on the screen for. So like, if you see breasts, they are not for a prolonged amount of time. They are not. Yeah. I feel like that was her way to like give the studios what they wanted because they were not going to fund it. They were not going to back her without that addition. And it just goes to show like they're still.
01:01:44
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All of these caveats, when you're trying to get a movie made that are kind of out of your control, like, you know, there are things like sometimes I see in movies, I wonder is like the director really want this or like, and so that was like really interesting thing to
01:01:59
Speaker
to see. And another thing that she wanted, which tracks obviously for the 80s, but she wanted one of Julie's best friends to be black. Yeah. And apparently studios was like, hell no. No, no. But we got Lauren who Lauren is something, you know, yeah. Spicy white.
01:02:19
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But she's so, it's Lauren and something. She's just not full Mayo. Um, there you go. But yeah, so I, I think the, the way that, that Martha went around that she does sprinkle, um, kind of diversity in the background. You see like more people of color in the background. I think there's a black girl that Tommy is like chatting up with and stuff. Like there are people in the Valley that are not just
01:02:43
Speaker
the white, you know? And I think that, you know, that's something that is a challenge for a lot of creatives and a lot of people who want to get funded is like they have to find creative ways to get what they want when the studios are very clear about like, this is what we don't want. So, you know, we reached the end of this movie. Hey, but it was a good movie. Thank you again for inviting me to participate.
01:03:10
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I did. I was like, okay. It's so of its time that it's hard to even dislike it. So I was like, all right, yeah. I'm watching something different. I mean, there is a remake. I think they remade it again later on. Yeah, I don't think it did as well, but I feel like people are revisiting the original because of that.
01:03:30
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and are really kind of enjoying the original a lot more. And I would say that that's great because Martha definitely deserved her flowers. Because if you look at this movie and look at Real Genius, she among other filmmakers of that era really defined what the 80s aesthetic and the rom-com aesthetic was, right?
01:03:51
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Yeah, for sure. She's definitely a tastemaker in that arena. Our next movie, though, is going to be very different. Speaking of having black girls getting their flowers, we will be leaving the 80s and taking a quick journey to the 90s to watch just another girl on the I.R.T. from 1992, directed by Leslie Harris. And this movie is about a Brooklyn teen who dreams of becoming a doctor
01:04:21
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Obviously, moving from the valley to the inner city. If I remember correctly. Exactly. And how that really just the environment that she's in is really like creating challenges for her fulfilling her dream. And this has been on my list for a hot minute. I'm so excited to finally pull the trigger, watch this. If you haven't seen Valley Girls,
01:04:44
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Sorry for all this play, Les, but you can watch it for free on Pluto TV. You can also watch it on Hoopla as well as Tubi TV, too. All of these are free. Hoopla, if you have a library card, you can get it for free. And if you want to jump on and watch Just Another Girl on the IRT for our next podcast, you can also see that. I also believe on Pluto TV as well. So exciting.
01:05:13
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Anything else you want to add to this before we sign off? No, I think we're good to go. I'm excited for our next movie. Yes. And I think it's going to be to stick to the 80s for just a second. I think it's going to be Ditchin. Ooh, I love that. The next movie and conversation. Absolutely. Well, thank you guys for listening. Thank you for joining us. Feel free to follow us on Instagram, on Screen the Clones, and subscribe to our podcast so that you know when the next episode drops. It's so lovely to have you, Kerris.
01:05:42
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And to our audience, ciao y'all! Toodaloo! Toodaloo!