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The Stream Queen & Candyman by Nia DaCosta
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Just in time for Halloween, we watch the newest addition to the Candyman franchise. This time directed by Nia DaCosta. My guest, Alex Chew, shares her thoughts on the movie and why you really should go watch it!
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Introduction to The Stream Queen Podcast
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to all the ladies I am big it's the pictures that got small
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Hello everyone and welcome to The Strain Queen where we select films by female directors to watch and discuss on the show.
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I'm your host, Topi Alejo Adebo, and every week I invite a friend to join me in watching movies and indulging in our love of cinema.
Discussing Nia DaCosta's 2021 'Candyman'
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Today, the Stream Queen watches Candyman from 2021 by director Nia da Costa. It's not available on streaming, but you can watch it in theaters.
Guest Alex Chu and Her Horror Journey
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Joining me today is Alex Chu, a fellow cinemafile, but also a writer, director, producer of movies herself.
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and she's a big horror fan and also made shorts within the horror genre. So let's get this show on the road.
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Hi, Alex. How's it going? Hi. How you doing, Tom? Thanks for joining me today. Thanks for having me. I know we had a little struggle getting on the recording, but we're here. We're here. Well, thank you so much for joining me. I know you're a big, big fan of the horror genre. How did you even get into horror? What was the watershed moment for you that you were like, this is a genre that I love, that I enjoy?
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Well, first, I'm wondering if I should let Buttercup finish growling. You know how she's very quiet, Buttercup's my dog. Y'all. I know. I know you know. No, I can't hear her. OK, OK, then I'll ignore it. But she just started growling at something. And I didn't want that to be the undercurrent of the entire podcast.
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I love it. It brings it brings some life to this. It would be very horror like just this deep growl. Anyway, anyway, tell me more, tell me more horror is like as far as long as I've known you, you have just like, that's been your thing. Um, you know, funny enough, I love I would say my favorite two genres are rom com and horror, which
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It doesn't make a lot of sense to a lot of people. I mean, there's some horror in finding love in real life. Yes, yes. But that's not even the reason. I don't know the reason for real. Like, I don't know why, because it was that way when I was very young. But my theories on why it might be is I grew up watching a lot of classic films on Turner classic movies. And that's where I fell in love with movies as a little girl.
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And it was almost all romantic comedy, screwball comedy type of setups, or a mystery thriller, a horror type of thing, like a Hitchcock movie, you know? I love a good Hitchcock movie.
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Yeah. So those were always my favorite. I never even thought that much about it. And, you know, any slumber party or movie outing, I always opted for horror. Like the most like the big capital in movies that I love the most that I made the biggest deal out of for the horror movies. And they were the most fun to me, even more so than any other genre.
Candyman's Significance and Representation
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So, yeah. So, you know, giving your love for horror, I wanted to pick a film that I thought that you would enjoy and Candyman.
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Like, I want to say that I first watched Candyman the original two years ago, maybe three years ago, and just being like, what is this movie? It's like incredible. And I watched the first one and the second one. And then I was really excited to find out that Anita Costa was going to be doing the most recent version or kind of like re, like bringing it back. And so it just made so much sense for this year to go and see this in theaters and just kind of give it the
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the love it deserves on the big screen. So when you went to watch it, how did you feel about the movie? What were your thoughts? You mean going in? Yeah, just going in. Oh, well, Candyman was the ultimate slumber party movie when I was a kid. And I mean, I think it was and is
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One of my favorite, it's so hard to say favorite about any movie, but it could be my favorite horror franchise period. Like all of them. Like I've actually seen the third one.
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Oh, okay. And the second one, many, many, many times. I grew up really seeking it out just because there were black people in them from beginning to end. And that just wasn't the case in a lot of my other favorite horror movies. I loved them. I just didn't see myself or anyone from the community represented whatsoever. So it was like, okay, I loved all of these other movies, but
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It was extra exciting to feel like you were kind of in the movie with them a little bit or like. Exactly. It actually explored, you know, black history in the United States. And the horror of that through this Candyman character, especially the second one, was really all about his backstory. Oh, yeah. That definitely on like just kind of opened it up for me because the first one I was like, yes, terrifying to have this guy run around, you know,
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I think it was Chicago at the time. I always like mix up the ones because I think the first one was in Chicago, second one was New Orleans, and then the third one was back in Chicago again. The third one was LA and then this one's back to Chicago. Okay. And yeah, for like just to giving that backstory, I was like,
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Of course, this horror passes down generationally. Of course, it's created a boogeyman, you know, when you understand the horror that black people went through. Of course, it would take on a life of its own and actually become just like not just a scary boogeyman under the bed, but also like a protector. Yeah, I especially in this film, I feel like they
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made the universe of Candyman make more sense than ever before. I think what was really interesting about the first one was just the setting in the black community. And I mean, it was a white female protagonist, but her partner was Cassie Lemons, which was cool and with Bernadette in there. And there were, there was something interesting about a white academic woman, um,
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like destroying a black family and community without realizing it. Like that was kind of what that arc and that story was to me. So it was still really interesting. It still had something to say about voyeurism, fetishism of black culture, but also naivete and yeah, it was almost like she was a really academic intense Karen of the nineties. This true.
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Just kind of also like the thing about Cami man that I've noticed is like there's just kind of a lot of these people who are not from the community who are trying to like I don't know how to explain it but I like I find myself yelling it's like it's not for you like let it go like just why are you trying to be in like why are you trying to understand this or get to it like the audacity to stand in front of a mirror and say his name five times like
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there just seems to not be this fear from like the white protagonist or the white characters. Right. Countering this mythical boogeyman that is not really like for some people in the community is a myth, but for other people, he's as real as like the guy next door. And in all the movies, it's pretty, that's a consistent theme. You know, like it's real for black people. Like looking in the mirror, holding up a mirror to our history and looking at the brutality, the racism, the leg.
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down the repetition of these horrible acts. It is real, and I really appreciated in this new movie how there were characters that were like, I'm not doing that. Yeah, nope. But it's not as real to maybe those high school girls in the bathroom. It wasn't real to them. It wasn't a big deal to them. So it's not real until it literally slaps you in the face or gets you with the hook.
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Yeah, and I love like the the high school thing is like a really interesting angle because you know whenever you think about things on TikTok and how there's certain things that belong to the black community that have impacted the black community and you kind of see it being made as like a joke or as like part of like their like performance within TikTok because it is like they don't have the same history and when they look at those things it's it doesn't reflect something back that is like real
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and traumatic and difficult. And so they're able to take it and play around with it. And then seeing them do something similar with Candyman, but actually facing the repercussions of that, I was like, bruh.
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High five, Nia, you nailed it. I also think they nailed even more of the fetish aspect of it and of like black trauma, like the way they wanted to exploit both of
Themes of Exploitation and Gentrification
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the characters in the film, really, the art house. What was her job? Tiana Paris. Oh, she was like, kind of like an art curator. Yeah.
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Okay, so the artist and the art curator both were being exploited. And I thought it was an interesting choice too, because they're being exploited by white and black people. And they also had the kind of conversation of like, well, are black artists also gentrifying and changing the community potentially? I mean, I thought it was an interesting conversation to kind of show that it wasn't necessarily just, uh,
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about the evil of white people doing it, but that we all participate in some of these cultural traditions and practices that could be harmful to the black community. Obviously, there are black police officers, especially the fact that it's set in Chicago, because Chicago might be the number one most corrupt police department in America right now.
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It's black cops doing it to black people. Exactly. It's the systems and the legacy that gets repeated. That's the problem. It's not even just about an individual skin color. And I think people need to see that. I think, yeah, I absolutely agree. And I think that's why like, you know, the people who looked in the mirror and said, said his name, it wasn't just like white people. It was also like, you know, those black kids and not really
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taking your history seriously and not really understanding the repercussions and just having to face that. You know, it was like, you know, respect this man. Like, um, yeah. So I mean, I really appreciate that they brought so many angles to it. You know, they talked about gentrification from different angles. Um, but even, even outside of like the message, it was still like, this is scary.
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And it had the same beauty of the first one. I think this one and the first one are the two most
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beautifully shot horror films of the franchise and two of my favorite aesthetics for a horror film period. I think that as much as anything else is another reason why it's my favorite franchise. I like the actual aesthetic and the sound design and the glass, especially in the first one. Oh, yes. There was so many camera angles, so many
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way in which they did this whole thing with mirror reflections. It carried on from the credit all the way to the end. It was a motif throughout. I love that that was an homage to Black artists because especially I had just seen Kara Walker's exhibit at the Broad in LA. Yeah. It's on display right now.
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you can actually like go see the shadow puppets that inspired those sequences in this film and it is brutal and it is hard to look at and it is our history in this country and it is disturbing but I thought it was a great way to actually not indulge in
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more visual black trauma? Yes, yes. And trauma in general, like it was a way to turn it into art and to think more deeply about what it's showing. And it's still horrific in its own way. Which is why I like what she did at the end with those, um, those like cut out pictures that created like shadow puppets. I thought that was like
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really ingenious because they could have filmed all of that like the because each of them was kind of like just the evolution of the the violence on black people on black men at different points like you know the lynching and all of that and it was done without having to film it but you could still feel the impact and how just how like terrifying and horrid it was
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without having to like show us like just feed us like black violence porn and I just was like seeing that at the end I was like I get the message I feel it and I'm so grateful that you didn't have to go down that road to tell me what you needed to say. Exactly and
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It was great. It was one of those things where, because I had just seen those puppets at the care walkers art exhibit at the museum. I had taken a bunch of pictures on my phone and had started writing like, oh, I'm going to include this in my next movie. No one's ever seen this in horror film before. And then I'd see it in Candy Man. And I didn't want to watch anything before the film came out. So I didn't know that was even going to be in it. And I was just like, damn. OK.
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Yeah, I mean, there's nothing new under the sun. We're all getting inspired by the same thing. Oh, definitely. The way you use it will be different from the way Nia uses it. But it is beautiful that we're all inspiring each other constantly. And just like another thing that came to mind from
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like seeing the story this time that i really appreciated was that it really was like talking about how candy man is just a it's a collection of pain that is being spewed outwards um the pain of like innocent or even not innocent who cares but just like the violence on like black people for existing has slowly been building up
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And it's actually, every incident is a little bee. And every bee is coming together in a hive, and the hive is in the body of Candyman. Exactly, Candyman is not a he, it's the whole man's hive. He's not a one person. He's like, all our collective pain, all our collective trauma, all our collective everything. And I was just like, damn, I wish I could write like that.
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I know, that was beautiful. And again, it really made all the first three films make even more sense. They make even more sense, yeah. In those beyond individual violence, it's like the system itself is violent. Exactly. We awake to it every day and it's like, well, we could get up and scream
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or we could just manifest Candyman. Like Candyman is how we deal with it. And it makes more sense because like when I would watch the first one I'd be like this is my favorite horror movie and I'd show it to everyone and I've been talking about Candyman my whole life. It was like one of my greatest inspirations as a filmmaker or just a film fan. Yeah. But the part that was hard to explain is like but why is Candyman you know he's avenging his own death at the hands of a white
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lynch mob. Basically. So why is he terrorizing all these black people? You know, like it didn't really totally make sense of like, why is
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Why is it like that? But then this
Systemic Violence and Historical Trauma in Candyman
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movie actually made it make more sense to me because just like what you're saying, it's really this representation of this trauma in this past. It's like we're all victims to it in the system and to what it represents. Exactly. That speech he had about how
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they drive all of the Black people into a part of town and just wait for the neighborhood to die. It's kind of like...
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every day is violence. Yeah it really made me and speaking of like black artists like talking to each other sometimes when we don't even know it like it's definitely like on our minds uh Alyssa Cole's book that actually I think came out right around the same time this movie was being made has a very similar line and moment uh as Coleman Domingo's character um
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when he's saying did they build this what did he say did they build the projects to keep us in yeah I forget what preceded that line but basically like did they build the projects to protect us or to keep us in or whatever yeah to keep us in line because there's like a police car and every
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block or whatever. That's a really big theme and Alyssa Cole's note when no one is watching. Yeah. There's a lot of connections actually to that book in this movie that I kept thinking about when I was watching it. And I love that we're getting those stories told.
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black perspectives as artists, because I was celebrating the stories as told by white artists, but it's actually making just a little bit more sense. Oh, yeah. We've unlocked the next level. And what's brilliant about it is like,
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Not only we lock that, but it's also doing fantastic at the box office, right? And it's just like, yes. I don't want this to fail. I want it to keep going and just open up more of those types of storytelling.
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for black directors, black writers, everybody. I know and I love that it's entertaining, it's thrilling, it's the genre, it's fun, it's a popcorn movie in other ways. As opposed and that's how I prefer to be provoked into deeper thought like
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I'd rather do it with a horror movie or rom-com like bigger genre type films than with a straight drama because life is a straight drama. I mean it is. When you live it, you want a different way to process it.
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For me personally, I know that's different for everyone. And there's a lot of dramas that I really love. I mean, we were just talking about The Wire and Omar, the greatest TV character of all time. And that was more of a straight drama. So there are some that I just absolutely adore. But even in The Wire, there's humor. There's gaffes. It still works in the same way to like,
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allow you to be entertained by what is technically a crime show, but still teaching you about all of the systems that have let these people down.
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Absolutely. This movie, comparatively, what I like about it, though, too, that is very different from The Wire is it's not a diegetic, realistic film in its form. Yeah. The content's very real, but the form of the film is like an art piece. Yeah. And I really love that, especially with just like a movie and a movie theater.
Cinematography and Homage to Black Artists
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And it was my first movie theater.
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like my first time in a regular movie theater since COVID. So it was the magic of the movie and I love the opening sequence of the first film and this film. I didn't think it could be topped, but I feel like they actually topped it. They did. They did great with that. It was beautiful and fun to watch.
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So then like, what would you say your favorite parts of this movie, Candyman 2021?
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Let me think about that for a second. What's your favorite part? Oh, it's very simple. When Tiana goes into the launderette and she opens that basement door and she goes, nope. Yeah, that's the kind of moment I was talking about was like, oh, OK. You know what? I also don't go into basement. You're right. And I remember talking to some of my wife friends. They were like, is that like a thing? I was like, it's dark down there. Why do you want to go down there? Close the door.
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I just having because like you know up until that moment it had been so tense there was so much stuff going on and you know she didn't know what was happening with her boyfriend and he's all there with his like bee sting just like
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Like, that skin issue was like, ugh, I could not even look at it. And so then, you know, like things are amping up and it just kind of helped ease the tension a little bit, that moment, because there wasn't that many people in our theater, but enough people were like laughing at that, but I was just like, okay, whew, can relax. Okay, next scary moment, let's go.
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Yeah, I think my one of my favorite moments that have a lot of them. Um, so there are some people in the theater behind me who when they had that little dialogue about gentrification kind of early on, I you could just hear them. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Oh, hi. It's so woke. I just can't stand
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and part of it was just like okay i hear that i hear it i get it i do get that but um also did you know what movie you were going to because all all four of them actually get at some of these same issues i i think people sometimes love to think that oh everything's just so woke and so political and funny and
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But really, this is a very good example of if you had seen the first three movies, you would hear discussions and portrayals of police officers. I mean, in the third one, it's like a police officer is like the bad guy of the movie, like the main bad guy is a police officer in the third one. And it's just like, okay, you didn't know what movie you were coming to, or you're brainwashed to think that this is a new conversation. But anyway,
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What I liked though was after that moment when it started becoming like really scary, I heard that same couple behind me like gasp.
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And then I was like, yeah, now you shut up. Now you shut up. And that's when the art dealer and I guess his girlfriend were murdered in the exhibit. Yeah. And, oh, and actually even before that, we painted man was. You're going to look in the mirror and say his name five times while you're like, sexing each other. Oh, I know. And at night, alone? No, no, no.
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And, oh, and they gasped when Candyman first appeared actually. And like the mirror play of when you could see him and when you couldn't, people would be gasping at various moments. And sometimes I wouldn't even notice till I heard somebody else gasp. And that's another thing I love about horror movies is it's really fun to watch with people. And it's kind of like a real collective movie cinematic experience. Like that wouldn't be the same without the visceral responses from,
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Yeah, watching it watching this movie by yourself I mean, yeah, it would have like some moments, but it wouldn't have the same impact I think yeah people were scaring me sometimes like sometimes, you know, like they'd make a little sound and I go what
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um or they show me a clue by gasping it be like oh there he is i didn't even see that um so all those moments were some of my favorites another favorite moment where i was freaking out in my seat like a geek i was just like oh my does everyone see
Narrative Depth: Anthony's Revelation
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what they did there oh this is so cool when i realized that ansony like that the lee character was ansony the baby
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Yes, oh my gosh, yes. And they brought back Vanessa E Williams? Just like the full circle, the full circle. I don't know how I didn't see it coming, but maybe part of it is because her name is Vanessa Williams. I was like, oh, she's going to make an appearance. While Vanessa Williams come up in the beginning, and I was thinking Vanessa Williams from Ugly Betty. Yes, Pocahontas. Pocahontas, yeah. And then it was like, no, no, no, no.
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Yeah. And so that was a good twist because I was just like, I'll wait patiently for Vanessa Williams. That's fine. Mama, if I was part of like some cultish behavior, like you need to tell me, like, don't let me just go off into the world and not know.
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Wait, what are you talking about? Well, she never told him that, like all the stuff that happened when he was a baby. So. Oh, right, right. So then he finds out later as a grown ass adult, like we don't have enough to deal with, trauma wise. And, you know, I get it. She's trying to protect him and, you know, told him he was born in a different hospital, blah, blah, blah. But the truth always finds its way out, you know?
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Yeah, so that twist was just like a really fun moment for lovers of the franchise. But then it also had that deeper thematic layer of, yep, this is something that we do. We try to protect each other, protect ourselves. I mean, there are people walking around right now that don't want to have some of the conversations that this film would provoke people who are black, white, and everything else. So, like, there's plenty of people don't want to talk about
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um black lives matters or implication or any of that any of this stuff um and i think that was almost like a representation of that denial of like oh this is what happens when you just shove it down and try not to talk about it you end up looking like a honeycomb you know there was this one scene i remember it and it gave me like 70s Suspiria vibes and that was when that art critic
00:28:15
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in that shot where she's being dragged along her window. And you just see it from outside the building.
00:28:26
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And I thought of you, I immediately thought of you. This has given me 70s horror vibes. Yeah, it's rear window. It's like the rear window moment where you see the whole apartment complex and you're the voyeur. Nobody is paying attention. If I looked out my window and I saw that, I would be freaked out.
00:28:48
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But it really puts us in that same, it's like we're in the story. It's like we're in that world and we're just walking along the street and that's happening. We can't hear it. They're not giving us like this movie magic sound design. Like we can't hear it, it's far away. And we're gonna move right along as a film audience. Just like anyone else in that world would be moving right along. Yeah, absolutely. So let me ask you this, as a filmmaker,
00:29:17
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in taking the film as a whole, is there anything that you would do differently or is this something that you feel end to end perfect, no change, no notes? I doubt even the filmmakers ever really feel that way. Yeah. Is there anything like any other filmmaker I've ever met in my entire life or heard in an interview? I'm sure everybody has notes.
00:29:46
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Although I do like the phrase, if they hate, they don't create. Because people that just hate on stuff, they don't know how hard it is to make a movie. No, absolutely.
00:29:57
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And with this movie in particular, it's just so complicated. I was also giddy in my seat when I realized that there were multiple candy men, because again, it just made the first three movies make so much more sense with this idea of, oh, there could be different representations and different actual candy men that inspired. So.
00:30:19
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that inspired the urban legends. So it just made it all make so much sense. And I don't think I could have done it any better in that regard. The only thing, and I wonder if they would agree or what the thought might be on this, because it was made in 2019, but really after the reckoning of 2020 when everyone's talking about these issues and everyone already. Very different. Yeah, it's like we, people have been
00:30:47
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listening or reading or fighting with people, arguing, engaging in a conversation about Black culture and history one way or another. So that dialogue about gentrification that made the people behind me sigh audibly, which was super annoying.
00:31:10
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I don't think it needed any direct dialogue about some, like there were a couple little moments where the dialogue directly addressed the themes that they were playing with. And I think the film was strong enough and that the audience nowadays are primed enough. Yeah, there's enough to like pick it up.
00:31:29
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Yeah, we could, we would have picked up all that without those little moments of dialogue, but I can't say that I would have done any better. But it isn't. It's a good lesson for us though. For us as filmmakers, like sometimes we do try to like make sure that the audience will get what we're trying to say. What does it show, don't tell, like as they say. Exactly. It's so hard though. And it's really interesting that you talk about it being filmed in 2019 because I wonder if it was released
00:31:58
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in that same year without the movement that happened in 2020? Like would it still hit the same way? Or would only certain people like glom onto it? I feel like I wanna say that after what happened in 2020 with the protests and everything, I think that it's kind of allowed more people to take part in this, like to really
Box Office Success and Storytelling Importance
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understand it and understand the impact more but then again I haven't like had any major conversations with other people and it's you know hindsight 2020 that kind of thing.
00:32:38
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Yeah. I concur with all that. Yeah. No, no, no notes. No notes. I can't give Jordan peeled notes. Are you serious? I know. I thought it was a guy. I mean, I've had people like they've had their criticisms about it. They post it on Facebook, you know, whatnot. But, um, I don't have like, I, I basically gave this pretty much a five star. So I don't know what your overall ratings were, but I went into that.
00:33:04
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knowing that I've watched the first and second Candyman, not the third, I feel like it might work. No, I've definitely watched the first and second. And going into this, I was just like, I just, everything was just right for me. Like it hit all the things that I would want in a film like this in Candyman. But I'm really interested to hear what your overall rating would be.
00:33:26
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Absolutely five out of five stars. Yay. It was scary. You know, back in the 90s, Ebert said something about the film like, what did he say? He said, with the original Candy Man, he said it's a film that isn't just about the gore, it's about gore and ideas.
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And that's what I love about the franchise. It's horror, it's classic genre fair, but it's also about the ideas. And like I said, other than that, even that little moment where it's probably not for
Critiques and Connections to Original Films
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me and you necessarily or someone that's already had a conversation before about gentrification but for someone that's maybe never thought about it before um you know maybe that moment just wasn't for me but i i would not take away a star um i have read some of the negative critiques of the film uh and i just completely disagree and part of it is
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just thinking about how hard it would be to make this movie and make it all make sense with the previous entries in the franchise and with a modern day audience. And I just feel like they accomplished something really special, especially at the end. It kind of made you want to root for Candyman in a really fun way. And I thought that was a new, a totally new
00:34:58
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you know, a new entry. It established a lot of new elements in the franchise that were unexpected. And I wasn't even expecting all that. I was like, okay, it'll just be another Candyman. I'm down. Like, that's fine. It could just be another Candyman. And people are gonna get killed because they said Candyman five times. Who does that? Yeah, we are rooting for Michael Myers.
00:35:20
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I mean, you have me rooting for Candyman and it makes sense. It does. I might call on him if I'm in that situation in the back of a car, I might call on him. Yes, I think so. Good to know. Good to know. Candyman is here for all of us.
00:35:40
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Well it was lovely chatting to you about this. I'm so glad like you know you you know when you go to movies and sometimes you go by yourself and you don't have anyone to talk to about it. I'm just so glad that I got somebody who like has watched all of the other preceding movies and just loves it as much as I do. So thank you so much for chatting with me about this. It's always great to get
00:36:01
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you know, a different perspective when it comes to films. And thank you to everyone for listening today. I hope you learned something new. And if you haven't watched this, I hope you actually get to watch it. If you want to pregame, there's also Kingdom One, Two, and Three. So you can always do that. Remember, you can subscribe to this podcast and get notified when our next episode drops. So until next time, thank y'all.
00:36:32
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Should we end with saying Candyman five times? Should we? Because technically we're not looking in the mirror. So Candyman. Candyman. Candyman. Candyman. OK, we got to stop. That's it. OK, I can't. Yeah, I know. I got to two of mine. Literally got like... I'm not doing that. Chills. Chills.