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Confidence
13 Plays1 year ago
Even after concluding their coach training or gaining an ICF certification, coaches periodically face the challenge of feeling confident about the value they can bring to their clients. In this episode of PRIME SPACE, Elias and Amy discuss the evidence of the value of coaching and some specific steps a coach can take to build and maintain trust in the coaching process.
#coachtraining #coachingskills #confidence #professionalism #beingHuman
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Introduction of Prime Space Podcast and Guest
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Welcome to Prime Space, a Prime Coaching Academy podcast with your host, Elias Scultori.
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Hello, my friends and fellow coaches.
Confidence in Coaching Value and Power
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I have a surprise for you.
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I don't think it's a surprise, but today it's not just me.
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We have my dear friend, Amy Rupert Donovan here.
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Hello, Amy.
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Hello, Elias.
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I'm back.
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And we are super thrilled that you're here to share this, the next 10, 15 minutes with us here.
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Amy, what are we going to talk about today?
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Well, I'm excited what we're going to talk about because it comes up a lot with coaches over the years, mentoring and training coaches.
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Confidence.
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Confidence.
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Confidence in what?
Legitimacy of Coaching as a Profession
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Well, really confidence in, in,
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the value you can bring and the power of coaching.
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So important.
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I appreciate that you wanted to talk about this.
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You mentioned this briefly in our prime brief this week.
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And here we have the opportunity to expand on this topic a little bit more on this episode.
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Yeah, the questions that we created here are how confident,
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are you in delivering value to our clients?
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How confident are you in the power of coaching?
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Those are the questions that are coming up for me as far as this important, crucial topic for us.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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And it is.
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And I think that we don't talk about this nearly enough.
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So let's do it.
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Where are we going to start?
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Well, let's talk about just and start with the legitimacy of our profession and how far we've come that this is a legitimate profession.
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And many of us know this because we were involved in developing it.
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from the time yourself included, at least, you know, from the time where coaching was barely defined to now a profession with a basic core competencies, a body of ethics, a body of knowledge, a regulatory board.
Coaching's Influence and Professional Confidence
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I mean, we've done all the things in this industry
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profession of ours that define what a profession is.
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Yeah, this is such a crucial point.
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And especially in my history, as my experience as a coach, I could see and I can go back and see the evolution of this profession.
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Yeah.
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how much work, especially the International Culture Federation, has done to establish very clear professional and ethical standards.
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And not just the standards, but all the processes around the standards to make sure that those standards are applicable, both professional and ethical standards.
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And as a result of that,
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it is estimated, I was just looking this online the other day, it is estimated that the coaching industry is worth $6.3 billion worldwide, which to me, yeah, it's a number, it's money, right?
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But to me, we would not be able to have an industry of this size if what we do
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is something so beautiful and so important.
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All the large organizations in the world, the larger corporations, government agencies, coaching is everywhere nowadays.
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It's everywhere in our society.
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We have professional coaches who are trained,
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and have gone through the paces of getting their certification and building their skills.
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And they are bringing the value and the mindset of coaching to these
Building Internal Confidence Through Practice
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arenas.
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So that to me is a beautiful evidence of the legitimacy of the profession in general that gives us a little boost of confidence in what we do.
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Absolutely.
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And, you know, at least when you consider we went from
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none of this.
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Yes.
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30 years ago, there was nothing literally to where we are today.
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And the countless thousands and thousands of hours people have put into this with their own blood, sweat and tears of volunteer hours, no less.
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Nobody gets paid for this stuff when you sit on committees with the ICF and
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You know, you spend multiple months and years sometimes developing this stuff.
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It's because the people that fuel that and shoulder in to do that work believe in the power of what we do.
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We wouldn't be able to grow the industry to this level if there wasn't something very special about what we do here.
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As we like to say here at Prime Coaching Academy, coaching is not just a skill set.
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It is a skill set, but it's not just a skill set.
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Coaching is truly a mindset.
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And there is something very special in that mindset of coaching that has made this industry grow and thrive in such a short period of time and so widespread.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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What about the, okay, so this is wonderful evidence, external evidence for us, but I feel like that there is something else.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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What goes on inside the coach?
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relative to confidence.
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I think that's a big conversation.
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But let's wade into it here.
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Yeah.
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And just to share, like before the podcast, we were discussing about this, and I mentioned like,
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Even practices that have been, there are centuries old, let's say, you know, music, I gave the example of music or medicine or being an engineer, you know, we know that these practices, these practices are not just a few decades old.
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These practices have been around in the history of humanity for a long time.
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The practitioner still needs to build internal confidence to be able to face an audience.
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A performer needs to build internal confidence to be able to face a concert or going in a theater.
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A surgeon needs to build confidence to go and perform a surgery.
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So there is, regardless of the external,
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that we have done a lot in the coaching industry, there is the internal confidence.
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How do we build this?
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Well, we start with practice, practice, practice, practice.
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The old adage.
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Yes, which we say a lot at Prime Coaching Academy.
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But really, it really does all stem from the practice that you're actually out there coaching, getting new clients, coaching a multitude and very diverse group of people that come through your practice, whether you're just starting out and maybe just doing pro bono coaching or you're into it now charging fees and and
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But every day is practice.
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Every time you coach somebody, it's practice.
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I don't know about you, Elias.
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I still consider it practice for me and learn all the time.
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100%.
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And I'm thinking here, it's not just for the new coach.
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This is for coaches that have been, you and I, as an example, that have been in the industry for a long time.
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You know, how often we start thinking like, oh, maybe that session wasn't good enough, or maybe I need to pay attention to this particular skill.
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Having that reflective practice that we talk so much is important.
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It's going to build our confidence and it's going to continue to maintain that confidence because of the practice.
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Yeah.
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And with that said, Ilya, how many times have you and I taken stuff down to the mats?
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Just, you know, really looking at these skills and pulling them apart and looking at our experiences with them and discussing it.
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So another area to get confidence is in dialogue with your peers.
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There's such rich conversation in that.
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And I don't think we give that enough credit either.
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100% know the community.
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I always, this seems to be like the motto of Elias.
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I'm always talking about community, community, community.
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But this is true for myself.
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I wouldn't be the coach that I am today without the community, not just for my practice, but the skills that I have today.
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So I am a firm believer of being in community, observing others, coaching,
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Being coached, having our own coach, it's something that oftentimes we minimize the importance of being coached, putting ourselves in the role of a client.
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We learn so much about that.
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So the practice is not just about the practice of being a coach, but it's the three roles that we always say, be a coach, be a client, and be an observer.
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That will build confidence inside of us.
Embracing Imperfection and Humility
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Absolutely.
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Absolutely.
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And going back to that community, Elias, I think that there's an element to this of us being able to be vulnerable with our peers to really discuss what are our challenges?
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What are we hesitant about?
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What are we, you know, we just had the most beautiful prime hour a couple of weeks ago where one of our members or the people on the prime hour brought in a great ethical situation for everyone to discuss
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The wisdom in that room, you know, I think some people surprise themselves that they knew much more than they did given a situation like that.
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And so it's to be able to bring our own vulnerability into our discussions with our peers in learning environments, or if you're being coached, to be able to say, I'm not sure about this.
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You know, I say it, Ilyas, every now and then, I'm not sure about this.
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Let's take a look at this.
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So it's it's being willing to do that without, you know, feeling like, oh, I should know this or I should be more confident around this or I should, you know, project a certain, you know, confidence that it might not necessarily be there.
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Yeah, manage perspectives, right?
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So something for us to be mindful of.
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And one thing that is coming up for me as we are saying, we are talking here, Amy, the idea that understanding and really being...
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ground ourselves in the idea that there is no such a thing as a perfect coaching conversation.
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We are always learning.
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There is no perfection here.
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And being humble in the fact that, yeah, perhaps next time I'm going to do this a little different and I'm going to experiment with this particular tool or I'm going to change a little bit the way I offer that question.
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This also, this whole process
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practice in experimentation support us in building confidence and realizing that the bottom line coaching is a meeting of human, one human to another human being.
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And we are there in that creating that space.
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And there is no expectation of perfection, but it is the idea of supporting the other individual and bringing the best of our abilities at every moment.
Lifelong Learning and Mentorship in Coaching
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Yeah, you know, I have a default, at least in that I still wonder after 30 years, you know, did I deliver all the value I could have today?
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And my answer, my default answer is always no.
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There's always more to learn.
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There's always more ways I can bring value into the coaching relationship and to my clients.
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And so that's just the growing edge, the constant growing edge.
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We're all on, every single one of us.
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That's why it's so important to have our own coaches and work with a mentor coach, work with a coach supervisor, and really be able to reflect and continue that.
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This is an ongoing.
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We're never done, right?
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We're never done.
Reflective Question on Building Confidence
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So I would love for us to conclude this with a question to our listeners here.
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What is it going to take?
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for you to build your confidence in your skills and in the value of coaching something for you to
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Reflect upon, talk with your peers, talk with your fellow coaches, talk with us, reach out, send us an email, let us know.
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And we are going to continue building our confidence, building our skills and bringing this wonderful value of coaching to our clients and to the organizations that we worked with.
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Amy, any final word here?
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No, I just, I think that question that you just posed, Ilias, is an important, a really, really important question that you should ask yourself often, not just once, but ask yourself often and be able to articulate an answer so that you can keep pushing yourself into greater realms of confidence.
Conclusion and Call to Action
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wow thank you so much amy thank you so much for being here with us uh for this episode everyone thank you for listening don't forget to subscribe don't forget to click on those stars it helps so much give us a little review it's so important for for us and share these episodes with your fellow coaches as well thank you so much and we will see you next time take good care