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Fixated with Joelle & Ellen
Fixated with Joelle & Ellen

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Speaker: Hi. Welcome back to Fixated Podcast. with us ellen and joelle i'm ellen and i'm joelle this is a show where we talk about all the media

Speaker: The things we just can't seem to get over. And why they all matter so much to us. In this episode, we talk a little bit of TV. us both watching yaga the first two episodes so exciting and then we talk about again some recent films we revisit you can see everything and talk about some sensibility a few more things in there.

Speaker: So enjoy, tune in. hey happy halloween oh my god happy halloween i know right not to the listener just to joelle exactly we are recording on halloween so you know on halloween day yeah i actually didn't say happy halloween to you this morning so it's so true happy halloween i noted that crap crap no yes it's hollow weekend That's awesome.

Speaker: What is that called? There's a word for it. it comes up on jeopardy so much and then it's like i was about to say a palindrome but that's not what it is yeah it's portmanteau portmanteau i was so close i was so close yes yeah because on jeopardy they're called je portmanteaus right i'm sure they've said that before yes maybe not yeah every single time yeah jeopardy that's that's the show that's like we haven't talked to jeopardy actually i know right like like i give that that show the short stick whenever i'm talking about my favorite shows like

Speaker: as i love to say during the pandemic it was like the one sure way that i was keeping time and that's why when we were living together when we were roommates That's why we watched Dancing with the Stars, because we watched Jeopardy every night. And then it was just on after. Same with The Bachelor. We started watching a lot of reality TV due to it being on right after Jeopardy. I think it was basically the only season of The Bachelor that I've ever watched. Joey. Joey. God, that actually...

Speaker: That's crazy that now we're talking about The Bachelor because I kind of have – that's going to come up later, I think. Yeah. That season specifically. Just I have a very quick mention. Okay. Look at that. What a season. with joey actually we can't talk about it anymore because i want to talk about it later okay so hold that thought and hold all your thoughts So serendipitous. I love that. Yeah. what Why are we talking about this? Jeopardy? Jeopardy. Yeah. All the weekend. Okay. Yeah. It's all the weekend. Yeah.

Speaker: I hope everyone's holiday weekend was lovely. um Two weeks ago plus, depending on when you listen to this. And you're having a great start to November. Exactly. Terrifying. I was having a real moment the other day Probably yesterday, probably less than 24 hours ago. um where I was like all these things I need to like do or I guess I'll just like leave this to like the new year I feel like in the latter half and like

Speaker: since september i've just been like oh okay okay i need to know Definitely what I'm doing with X, Y, and Z by the new year. It was like... That's two months. Two. Oh my god.

Speaker: Oh my god. hi Anyways, not to scare everybody. No, because there are certain things that are going on that if they're still going on in 2027... like it's over it's over you're telling me it's all over for joke over yeah i don't know not to be like so of our generation but i'm like

Speaker: The pessimism. Yeah. The somewhat nihilism is yeah reaching a certain level of like normalcy in my day to day. No, and it is. Life. and like it's honestly impressive how it like bounces back and forth and how hard my like human spirit is fighting yeah asked it against like it's crazy Anyways.

Speaker: Yeah. just Just put it out there. Uh... But you know, hope spring is eternal. Exactly. that's That's so true. You know? Yeah. Awesome note to start on. Exactly. Okay. Yeah. Happy um everything. Yeah. exactly I love. podcasting. Yes, this is this brings the light. yeah we is positivity to your lives that you need.

Speaker: Mm hmm. And we're here with you. Yeah. Yeah. not Okay. Let's just, let's do it. Let's yeah let's just get it into it. Can't do this anymore. Yeah. Yeah. um What are your non -media fixations this week?

Speaker: Yay! Well, you know... As always, we make the rules. So I realize how this... this fixation very quickly becomes a media fixation but um i'm just really pumped that i have a library card i got a library card that's so like that's actually so exciting yeah yeah and i'm just so foolish for not getting a library card and then

Speaker: Yes, yes, say that. The last time I must have had one was when we were in Jersey City. Beautiful. there And that was really fun. Loki went to the library a couple times, I think, to print stuff out. and just I used to go all the time. It was great. yeah i feel like you actually like borrowed books I did. and more than i Yeah.

Speaker: yeah it was still before i was like one must truly put in the time and effort to read i was kind of kind of like audiobooking and stuff more than like yeah sitting down I...

Speaker: Yeah, I a couple of times did rent like real life books. Mostly I was on an ebook kick. and then I was going there all the time to like hang out and print stuff. yeah i love the library support your local library i'm saying this library is so close to me Went there to vote.

Speaker: Hey. Awesome. Oh my God, vote. Boat. Vote. Exactly. Yeah. literally so easy i was like well man while i'm here in this beautiful so like new like definitely that library has not been there for more than 10 years there is a new beautiful library that's so close to me and i was like oh might as well like get a library card yeah And it was just so easy. It's so easy.

Speaker: That's the thing with librarians too. I remember this when we were getting your library card. In Jersey City, they're so helpful and so willing to give you a library card, even if you like don't have the stuff that you need with you. Yeah. Awesome. Love that they're just so so helpful. I love a librarian.

Speaker: yeah well completely in another way that was huge and like i got them and just was standing right next to the like their dvd collection i was like that's super exciting incredible the online services i was going through libby and like blog and was just like i want to read that i will want to read that and so hopefully it will support my reading goals My Libby, like the... the amount of books that I have saved on there save for later is insane.

Speaker: yeah I love it. It's so good to have a huge, giant list of books that you can maybe read one of these days. um It's the best. that's thing like I will not be getting to like oh we get into a fraction of these. And that's not what it's about. like Not really. In the end...

Speaker: It's about hope. Having a library card is about hope. actually is a lot A lot of it is about hope in this day and age. It really is in believing in yourself. exactly yeah exactly it was like there are so many books like knowledge abound you know what i mean exactly you can learn anything Exactly.

Speaker: So yeah, that's like... pretty much it. I was just really excited. Put a big old bright spot in my day. i was like library card. We're back. We're so back. Hope springs a turn. love yeah Ellen What is your non -media fixation? Okay, mine is...

Speaker: I don't know. I got another concept for you. I've been doing a lot of concepts lately. um I feel like fall in New York is such a good time to, or it doesn't have to be New York, any city, any place that you are in, that you live in, the concept of like being a tourist in your own city.

Speaker: I love and I've been locking into that lately. I think specifically for New York, fall is such a good time to do that because it's obviously so beautiful here. yeah just really trying to enjoy where i am and see the things that i don't usually see and like i like sometimes i like going to a touristy spot the museum going to central park like it is really lovely it's really fun there's a reason that people travel from abound.

Speaker: yes to come here And it's nice to remind myself that like. why it's so nice here why I enjoy it so much so I've been doing that a little bit This beginning of the fall. Lovely. Well, don't ask me that. Cause again, it's more of a concept that I haven't done it a ton yet and it's more on meaning to do it, but I've been thinking about it. yes No. Yes. I hear what you're saying. ah Yeah. I mean, I could.

Speaker: even seem to do that. here at home especially when it's like where you grew up yeah i have a really big issue of like really kind of under appreciating It's so easy to fall into that. So it's nice to like force myself.

Speaker: Two notes.

Speaker: remember but it is nice here and i do like it here because sometimes it's easy to forget that and when you're leaving having a terrible october a terrible o october october went by so fast i can't really like say if it was good or bad it's not great yeah i think we were saying the last episode that it was moving so fast yes practically and then i blinked and we're doing another episode i know it's insane yeah but you're just saying you're going when you're just doing the like routine in and out you're exactly it's just the where i live but

Speaker: You are in New York City. I'm in New York City. Like, girl. I don't know, go get a hot chocolate or something. I'm saying that because that's the last thing I did. Like last time I was out, I got myself a hot chocolate as a treat. But it can't be that simple. I'm not always like, I'm...

Speaker: honestly not a huge big treat girl like I forget that that's just something or little treat little treat girl yes I forget that that's something you can do and it is so nice and I know that this is not I'm not inventing that. Everyone has discovered that, but it is really nice.

Speaker: It's crucial. Sometimes. It's a good reminder that you can make any day lovely. you can go to the library can go to the library rent a book get a hot chocolate Perfect day alert, actually. Like huge.

Speaker: oh like sensational even damn we're gonna bore it Yeah. but Wow. God, how old are we? What's happening? You turn 26 and you will become a very old woman. Exactly. I mean, look at you and your in your sweater. My like my cozy cardigan I'm wearing. Yeah. Yeah. What's going on? Yeah. I have to get younger stat.

Speaker: You have plenty of time to be young. Exactly. Is that what they say? Sometimes people say that. And then sometimes people say the complete opposite. I think, yeah, I think they're not so much saying that because they are live it while you're young. that Yeah. out like You'll have time later to be young, right? That's...

Speaker: famously yeah whatever that's the thing you can do whatever you want at any age pretty much I think so. Though I did have to live with the belief that you can. Exactly. That's the thing. journal I did. I was talking to... a coworker the other day. who was telling me that you you can't wear crop tops after 40. And I was like, okay. That's fair, but...

Speaker: It's true. She said, well, if you, so yeah true you can never stop me. And like, will I be wearing crop tops after 40? No. Cause I don't really wear crop tops now, but yeah if I wanted to. I could. i could Everything's about mindset. Exactly. Mindset. It just matters where your heart is.

Speaker: What am I talking about? Whatever I think this is a very end of the month type of episode. It is. You're right. It's a lot of end of the month, hollow weekend type of things. It's very clearly hollow weekend. Yeah. I'm tired. Time is passing. Yeah. I'm tired.

Speaker: That's why we get cozy when we do the pod. again Exactly. Self -referential. We have fun. like Everybody loves this. What's going on here? Chat. Am I right, chat? Exactly. Press F in the chat. I actually have no idea. idea Okay, okay. If anyone knows what I'm talking about, can you tell me? If anyone knows anything ever, please me. Let me know what the hell's going on. It'd be be great. It'd be much appreciated. Okay.

Speaker: We should talk about what we're here to talk about. We should. That'd be fun, I think. Yeah. How about you go first? What's your, what is your media fixation lately?

Speaker: Okay, okay. So some things before it's like some bigger things, just like music wise, just to do the shout out again, I think he just like shouted out last time, two different albums from last time. Cause music just.

Speaker: It keeps coming. as keep I was listening to Fontaine's DC's ah album. dopamine chamber and just enjoying that. love it i like i know some of their songs from past albums but have like really sat down to really listen and there's no time like the present and they're just cool like i just i really i really like it i really like it um i think i really like the lyrics Yeah. Really cool.

Speaker: interesting Rosalia feature on that. Ooh. That's fun. Yeah, which I thought was a really interesting match up. between um the lead singers of the fontaine's voice and rosalia um and then i listened to rachel chinariri's new album moo that i believe is called i think i spoke too soon and yeah just like cool again pretty i like i like it i like her she has such a really unique tone to her voice um i don't know if i know who that is She is this British.

Speaker: artist okay singer she does kind of a what like an indie pop rock type of uh tour it can be a little bit like sparkly and dancey.

Speaker: and then yeah a little bit more into like the rock Fun. Okay, cool. she's really cool and her voice is like so like soft. he's been trying to like pin down what it is but like i'm trying to think of like what is a song you might have heard even on my tiktok but i kind of can't remember because i think that's how i or it's definitely how i first like encountered her but it's like she's this very kind of like soft airy

Speaker: almost nasally but then almost kind of like raspy. voice okay nice at the same time cool it's kind of interesting i find i find i really like it i feel like sometimes the production like how it matches up with like yeah however they like producer songs sometimes it's like a little i don't say like hit or miss because i generally like it but it just like kind of takes me a second um But then I realized, I think it's just because I really like a very forward vocal. that getting Yeah, yeah, yeah. um

Speaker: but i like it it's really interesting and i feel like also again like her lyricism and her vibe and stuff i'm like i i feel seen by this i feel i relate to it's very relatable music a lot of i think her um the lead single off of it is one song away from crying and like immediately i'm like bought it because i just love i love that like general yeah um idea in songs of like dancing while crying crying yes yeah why yeah the crying while happy that type of thing um

Speaker: And she kind of is like doing that like melancholy, but dancey type of thing. and I do love that. Yeah. Right. It's so fun. I really like that. And so... yeah and then i was watching tv this week y 'all And I guess I'll use this as a segue to something I know we've both seen. um But randomly, I finished watching Sharp Objects. Ooh, okay.

Speaker: Yeah, I was rewatching it and it's just a good show. like I haven't seen that one. I think you'd like it. Is that the one with Amy Adams? Okay. Okay. yeah yeah it's so good like i kind of forgot

Speaker: I think it's like really appropriate for end of summer into fall spooky season actually because it's like southern gothic okay i forgot that it's like actually kind of spooky okay um And there's... a like very real like haunting ghost this type of thing that's happening throughout it um that when i watched the first episode i was like oh shoot i was like why do i got chills scared And it is just like in various ways, quite devastating, quite moving, super interesting, super well acted, et cetera, et cetera. And I just realized that I could have finished watching it maybe at the expense of some sleep this week, but I was happy that I did. because it's just good and amy adams is really fantastic then other tv that i watched this week

Speaker: Watch the first two episodes of Yaga. Yaga. yaga on amc plus of course yes um Yeah, thanks to ah Ellen's login.

Speaker: Yeah, I got that and I immediately texted you and was like, OK, here's my password because I need you to watch this so that we can talk about it. Yeah, completely. Yeah. Yeah. we but So we both watched. your Yes. Yeah. I watched the first two, which at this point in time, I think those are the only two that are out as of recording this.

Speaker: But it's cool. I mean, you know, our boy Hudson's in there. Exactly. um noah reed schitt's creek and the vampire list yeah and carrie ann moss who is Actually hasn't been in it that much yet, but she's incredible. She's so good.

Speaker: So good in it. love I can't wait to see more of her because I know there's going to be more of her in it. Oh my God, I can't wait. I love her. um Yeah. I am. yeah So I'm really enjoying it. I'm completely taking over. It's my turn now. um i am I'm really enjoying that. i really I said this to you already, but like the vibe is so good. It's so sexy, creepy. I love it.

Speaker: yeah and kind of funny too i feel like they have like a good a good sense of humor yeah throughout it even yeah even at this point and obviously Hudson Williams he's great whatever I was I because I didn't really I don't know I've been really into not watching trailers lately I've been blind watching everything which is kind of fun um so I didn't like I knew that he was playing both Logan and Henry he's playing two different characters obviously yeah And I saw in the trailer, I knew that with Henry, they gave him scary blue contacts.

Speaker: Yeah. Really. freaking me out not actually a fan of that and we haven't even met henry yet but whatever um

Speaker: I didn't realize they were going to give him so many like... prosthetics as well for logan yeah i was like who is that what's going on with his teeth and his nose like who is that he's great very yeah it's weirding me out in a way that's good like it's yeah It's good. It's just, like, a little off. You know? it'ss's It's interesting. Like, it's good, too, that he's clearly immediately an actor who, like, it's not...

Speaker: I'm not watching Hudson Williams. You know? Yeah. Like, yeah he can... lose himself in the character or i can lose myself in the character or whatever um that's like which is good It is good. because When he's only really been in one thing, it's like you never know. If you're going to be watching either Shane Hollander or Hudson Williams be in some scary show about Baba Yaga. But no, you're not. It's good. He's he's doing a good job.

Speaker: I completely, completely agree. But I feel like i don't know i feel like i also like expected nothing less well of course not yeah they were So, so much. both of them he derived so so much shane ilia yeah but hudson specifically like one

Speaker: I finally submitted to watching a little bit more promo yeah seeing like that first interview with the two of them yeah I do remember being like oh shoot yeah like who are these people what's going on like oh they're acting I remember I think I texted you I was like that guy's from Texas are you kidding like yeah wait hang on the Russian one is not Russian what are you talking about yeah so obviously like I'm not surprised That. I'm not watching Shane Hollander in that show. But I'm so glad to see it because, you know, sometimes it's like a me thing more than an actor thing. Sometimes you struggle to.

Speaker: see someone else. Yeah, whatever yeah to separate. Bye. It's great. He's great. yeah no i really i really am enjoying the vibes enjoying the performances thus far noah reed is So good. in so off -putting and I really enjoy him so he's also clearly doing a great job because I really hate having him on my screen and he's an actor that I love so but I find the character really interesting because

Speaker: i get the sense of how yeah completely obnoxious yeah like strange but i'm also like at times charmed and then you're just kind of like what you're like so how is this supposed to like what is going on like i don't know just like normal good tv i guess um where you're like well yeah how how is this how is this all going to play out and i feel like that was just like the main resounding Thought.

Speaker: which is a positive one. once i was done with like the first two episodes where i was like yeah all me intrigued i'm very intrigued at how all these players are gonna keep like interacting and everything um it is obviously like i i read the play so i do know what's coming down the line like what's gonna happen yeah but um I'm excited to actually watch it play out. Yeah, I'm excited to see it. andm like i'm different.

Speaker: different ways but I'm pumped to see how they do it I am excited because there were a few ways even. before when they announced. it where I was like how are you gonna do that not in a play way.

Speaker: um with. I don't want to give anything away. just I didn't under, I was. struggling to picture how they were going to do it as a TV show. but Do you have a better idea? I think so, a little bit already, yes. yeah With one thing, no.

Speaker: But I'm excited because I like trust them enough. like The first two episodes were good enough to me that I i think they're probably going to land it. um Yeah. I'm excited. yeah Is this a limited series? i think so it must be right it must be yeah it's the play was not that long at all that's cool i like I think it's got to be.

Speaker: It's nice. And I love a, um like a weekly seasonal drop. I love it. I mean, that was the one thing which, again, kind of actually clued me into into me being into it. Because I was a little bit like...

Speaker: low -key i feel like just like watching this like i just want to know what happens i know and i was like well there you have it yeah it's good i'm in like yeah i love it it's so it's such a good Way to like talk.

Speaker: to build community too, to get people talking about it and to build interest, obviously all these things. I love it. It's so much fun. Yeah, because i did I really sat down with the intention of watching the entire thing. I didn't realize it was a weekly drop until episode two stopped. And I was like, what?

Speaker: Crap. Shoot. the patience is a virtue it is and it's you know like it's fun to have a show to look forward to like it really is to have a regular watch yeah yeah i think it's going through november i think it's only going to be like a month of weekly drops so there can't be that anymore yeah so it's probably like six yeah Yeah.

Speaker: fun that'd be good to keep up with yeah i feel like there's like With only two episodes and not wanting to... be like spoilerific there's been so much we could say yeah exactly but I feel like I wrote down I don't even know I like the um The soundtrack is just incredible. I think they did such a good job with that soundtrack. I really love.

Speaker: Honestly, this is such a specific thing, but in like a show or a movie that's kind of... I don't know, from a specific culture, I'll say. Like when they have a classic pop American song in some other language. I love that. I think it's so much fun.

Speaker: absolutely I think it's a really cool addition. um Yeah. I love it. They did that. Yeah. i just such And it really sets the vibe. It's so good. I think the only other thing I had written in my notes about yoga was the concept of a private detective texting, let me know where you're at. Because I saw that. It really made me laugh. Yes, that was really funny. Hey, let me know where you're at. done

Speaker: Let me know what's going on. They're paying you a bajillion dollars to find this kid and you're just texting him. Yeah. I just want more. like I'm just excited for more. Yeah, exactly. Where is Henry? He could be anywhere. What happened to Logan? He's dead on the ground. Sorry, spoilers. we are I was like, oh, we're not doing spoilers, actually. ah I'm doing spoilers.

Speaker: They're out. They'll be out by the time of this episode drops. They'll be out. They'll have been out for a while. ghost That is true. Whatever. sorry no no no no really you're right it will be out for a while we'll already be on like episode four yeah i got like yeah I feel like he's...

Speaker: But Logan's not a big enough character in it. that that shouldn't really ah impact your watching experience but yeah I was like I know I did. I kind of forgot.

Speaker: did I know that that like I must have known that that happened I wasn't expecting it I said no one Oh my God. No, wait, Logan. Okay.

Speaker: so yeah yes okay I'm glad that I got to talk over your fixation yeah no no no I knew I knew that this one and we were gonna have some shared ones yeah because I feel like the next couple of things realize that kind of as a part two last episode yes a continuation yeah now we get to have actual conversation yes yes some movies that we have now both seen she was i guess just start with you can see everything i think spoilers because we're going to do spoilers okay spoilers spoilers will abound i've been saying abound a lot today i don't know what's up with that Yes.

Speaker: Spoilers for You Can See Everything. Finally saw it. Last episode, you had only seen it. yes I finally saw it. and now I feel like so like deeply kind of almost like out of conversation of because like yeah it's been now going on for a while but that's not how this podcast works so we're gonna talk about it How nuts is that? That was right. Finally, I can just so glad that you get it now. um Yeah, because it was crazy.

Speaker: it's so crazy i don't even know like i guess off the top of my head Crazy that Amanda Seifert's there. that was like the one of the bigger like it was Just such a genius.

Speaker: like, inclusion. you know that's the thing it was like almost completely unexpected but then it's also like well what else like how else is it gonna like where else is it gonna go i don't even know i really i love the yeah that she kind of became a main player in it too it wasn't just she was not just there for the the recreations obviously

Speaker: Yeah. And again, I find it fascinating. Like I, in so many ways, I still don't know exactly how to like account for what they were doing. and yeah Because I also listened to Lance Oppenheim and Nathan Fielder talk about it a little bit.

Speaker: their conversation after the premiere at the new york film festival was filmed And... You know, they I feel like they were a lot more - up front than i would than I was expecting and kind of being like Genuinely like.

Speaker: though it may kind of seem like it like so much of this like was not planned and a lot of it was like kind of i guess going along with as you'd expect to documentary film yeah like especially when they were spending time with elizabeth and billy like i don't like they're like like we would be talking every day.

Speaker: And also be. interpreting things that transpired differently from each other and that's how we knew that that was like useful or like was something that we wanted to include like still so many times like interacting with them it's just kind of like a big question mark of like what what's going on what is going on what's happening And so, I mean, I'm still so curious how that extends then to like the second.

Speaker: half of yeah It's... again especially when like amanda seyfried's included because it's just like That. is when i think they really start playing a little bit more though like objectively because it was really it was two different documentaries like yeah it really was two different movies right And that's why I liked.

Speaker: um being able to reflect on our conversation from last time of kind of being like How does this fit into like... being a documentary, actually.

Speaker: I don't know, I guess... the one thing that i guess woke me up to which is also nice and like a positive effect is that yeah there's a lot of different ways that documentaries are made yeah it turns out again like it's not it's a bit of a blind spot for me but even with like the question i know there's like all of this like meta with it being amanda seyfried obviously like playing it out and stuff but

Speaker: even just on the simple basis of being like oh right like actually in like the amount of documentaries that i have Watched. whether like series or or films. i was like yeah actually like reenactments and stuff that is like pretty powerful yeah so people do that again i don't know if they've done it exactly with these but the specifics of this situation is just like completely bizarre but also humorous and like multi -layered.

Speaker: but like fair enough but there's still just like so many aspects that was just completely like so fascinating of what's going on with those people in that situation but yeah as you said like the second half It. becomes It becomes something else. Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker: and like in the collection of some of the like conversation and things that I was trying to like read about it. I do feel like it's fair to say that it becomes way more about like Nathan Fielder as the actual subject. Yeah, no, definitely.

Speaker: And like, what does he believe? absolutely yeah and so then it's kind of like this kind of like trick mirror like flipped yeah thing you know like if that is really the question with elizabeth holmes as well is like not even so much like is she telling you the truth but like what does she actually believe about her yeah her and her situation you kind of are able to ask.

Speaker: by the end the same question with like nathan fielder as like i guess the documentarian End. I just loved. ah Yeah, like once I was like. this is why sometimes watching movies of any sort where you're just like thank god someone's putting this together like yeah similar to like they made a cypher choice the like choice to have the footage of them playing in the water yeah

Speaker: Like at the end, I was like, again. duh but like you just like sold i mean you just you just you just landed the plane i was like that literally i mean that is yeah What a way to end it. Yeah. yeah I was like that That makes a lot of sense. And that's so...

Speaker: weird are like so interesting ah so interesting i just loved that it's so Just... Who are these people? and like please anyone it's so yeah what an interesting i don't know yeah I feel like, i' obviously, like i we said, I'm not.

Speaker: that familiar with the genre of documentary in general I really am not but I feel like going into a documentary And coming out, obviously coming out with a different opinion is not new, but coming out feeling like you know less than you knew before is at least ah a new experience for me. It's probably not new to documentary as a whole, but yeah certainly isn't something that I've really experienced before. which was yeah crazy and so interesting.

Speaker: I was kind of reflecting on this elsewhere but I was like It is one of those things that like... made me think of like how often Am I watching? things and i think like narrative films can do this as well to a certain extent but that like really kind of like genuinely like force you to be like engaged like intellectually engaged like i feel like half the time i was sitting there trying to like parse exactly exactly what was happening and being very entertained as well but like

Speaker: It's like one of the more impressive aspects to it for me as well. Yeah, definitely. I was reading one of my favorite substacks. Shout out. brendan holder you know it's the lucy substack where he writes about like art and technology and culture and blah blah blah I really like how he writes.

Speaker: He's awesome. He's great. and um He like described it as like creative nonfiction. Oh, I love that. Right. And I was like, that really helps kill a little bit more.

Speaker: that's exactly what it was right exactly i was like that that that was there was a very deft analogy basically or like borrowing from literature sure uh literary genre more than anything but i was like i was like you got it it really helped me because yeah yeah i was like because there's something so like undeniably again like stylized and like crafted yeah about it to like have a point to it.

Speaker: But it is also... real documentary it's not exactly like I don't know. There's just something. that helps it make a little bit more sense.

Speaker: It was like a Moki. with existential i was like that also is like i know as we're saying the strange thing is like what does let's say elizabeth holmes and like billy specifically. actually believe about their situation. yeah um i don't know i think i guess there's like there's something there too about like how they're theoretically working with the same reality as everybody else yeah but like you can really kind of Still like... like they have very evidently kind of like

Speaker: created a relatively well -sealed little like narrative and truth about their respective innocence slash like motivations and what they're actually trying to do in the world so much like self -nathologizing i thought was yeah really ah evident in there yes it was so like it's really fascinating to like get a look in on that.

Speaker: And yeah, kind of like... to whatever degree reflect and be like i guess everyone does that a little bit like i guess yeah that's a good that's an extreme but like it is certainly an extreme not everybody's building AIs of themselves to read to their kids and things like that but exactly But I guess that's like the... a purpose of again like the second half that where then all of a sudden you're kind of looking at Nathan Fielder who's like Theoretically

Speaker: like knows that there's something off but then you also get caught up in like how people... perform themselves exactly Your role in this and this that you know, it's just a big old freaking mess. Yeah big old mess

Speaker: Would not be Theranos -ing anybody anytime soon, but I like that it makes me reflect a little bit about performance. This podcast is our Theranos. Don't text, I'm Theranos -ing. Well, which one is which? Who's Elizabeth and who's Billy? Of the two of us? Yeah, this podcast is Theranos. Well, because he wasn't a part of Theranos.

Speaker: He came in after the fact. You're right. Yeah. So Theranos 2 .0, they're inventing together. It's wild. Oh no. which one of us is really feeling like defrauding investors i mean that could be fun i could get into that but it's like work we're supposed to do but to think exactly Hats off.

Speaker: To them. Yeah. That one. to everybody and we were talking about this If that movie. wins an oscar for best picture or something else Does Elizabeth Holmes get an Oscar?

Speaker: <unk> ah Like, is she included in that? Because I don't, as far as I know, again. I'm uneducated and I haven't looked this up. like I don't know that a documentary has won Best Picture before. I don't think it has.

Speaker: And so I wonder what the rules are around like. oscar winning but also do they if because she wouldn't be winning for best actress But still, does she get a little statue, though? so I don't know. Do they like do they give the cast?

Speaker: Of like the best picture movie though. oscars Do they call them all Oscar winning or just say they were in an Oscar winning film? I actually don't know. I don't remember actually I'm not sure so maybe this sink doesn't matter anyway because maybe that wouldn't even be relevant Yeah, I feel like...

Speaker: Mmm. I think actually that wouldn't apply because I think they probably don't call a person Oscar winning unless they themselves have won an Oscar. so Yeah. i'm gonna act completely making up a scenario that isn't real yeah but it still makes me want i was like i look you feel like maybe they should like if you were all in the oscar -winning movie like you should be considered exactly right you were

Speaker: it's they should do like a you know like how would i'm sorry that this is gonna come out of me i've been into talkie lately you know how with the stanley cup they all like take turns taking it home is that what they do and everyone gets a ring exactly if it gets a ring everyone gets like a weekend with it you get to do whatever you want take it home doing that with oscars like They should.

Speaker: That only seems fair. winning movie of like even if I wasn't a lead but I was like primary cast yeah especially if you're yeah i'd kind of want a statue i'd want i would want a statue maybe they get a plaque We should ask. We should have an offer. We should talk to somebody. Yeah. Exactly. Raise your hand if you're, who do we think is the furthest one along here to an EGOT? You know, that's a good party question. Yeah, exactly. Raise your hand if yeah you have any of the letters in an EGOT. Put a finger down. Yeah.

Speaker: um Who, okay, between me and you, who do you think is egotting first? universe where either one of us would be egotting. Or actually, let's say we're both egotting. Who's getting there first? Who's getting there first? Can I answer honestly? Yeah.

Speaker: ah Oh, you! I was like, I feel like it sounds conceited, but I'm like, I think. I kind of forgot who I was talking to, Loki. Like, yeah, obviously. That's so funny. Okay, different question because that's a bad one. Which order are you Egon -ing in?

Speaker: Oh my gosh. That's a better one. Cause obviously. But but you don't need to act to get an awesome. that's true yeah you could win an oscar for like costume design or something you know well i'm not I know not. no talents I'm just listing something else. and you go Yeah.

Speaker: i feel like the pod is bound to win a grammy okay yeah yeah okay so we're getting a grammy together first for the pod um We're bound to win a Grammy. Okay.

Speaker: if the grammy even had like i feel like Golden Globes have podcasting recently. You're right, they do. grammy's We'll be the first. Yeah. They're going to get a new category. yeah

Speaker: The girls are so damn good. Exactly. Fixated Adopt Pod with Ellen and Joelle. Or Joelle and Ellen. Whatever. And then we they take it on the road. great me And we do. live shows. We do stage shows. That's true. i was gonna I was thinking I'm going to be stunt cast in some Broadway show that I'll win a Tony for. Oh, there we go. I don't know. Maybe they'll put me in Waitress or something. I like Waitress. There we go. That's fun. We could both like use a stunt cast. Exactly. era that be I would love that. That would be so much fun. 100%. I would stunt cast as anything. That would be so fun. i Fixated the plot the musical. wait we Wait, wait, wait. Yes. Okay.

Speaker: Cut that out because we need to get that rolling before anyone else gets on it. Yes. But you're right. We could we could bring this to stage. Yeah. Shoot, what are the other ones? an emmy i mean a daytime emmy we should to do an appearance on SNL?

Speaker: I think that's no the best. know That's what people usually, that's how people usually EGOT, right? Unless they're in a show, so I'm lying. No, yeah. so i think that would be good or if we're on literally like any type of talk show i feel like there's like a chance that's true there is a talk show i feel like yeah if you're winning for like a Like a guest appearance. I feel like it's usually us now, but it could be anything else. You're right. Yeah. I mean, who who says we can't like turn it up? I don't know. Somewhere else. Maybe we're really having the best episode of Seth Meyers of all time.

Speaker: They finally invite us to the view. Wait, get us on the view. I've never seen the view. Who's on the view? i've seen That's that table of ladies, right? Okay, get us there.

Speaker: At The View. Can we come on? Talk about whatever. Whatever you want. i see her And what am I missing? Oscar? Oscar, I feel like might be the hardest yeah to get to.

Speaker: We could act. short film. Okay. Or a documentary, when they make a documentary about Fixated. So we've got EGOT. That's how we get to EGOT. The road to EGOT. The Road to EGOT. That's the name of the documentary that gets us the Oscar. Oh my god, you're right! Ugh. Yeah. anyway why are we talking about this i don't know we're still technically on you can see me oh right you can see everything Did I say that correctly? No. start

Speaker: no like you said it right okay the reason that came out so quickly that that's so funny you can see me yeah you can see me oh You see how this looks, right? um Oh my god, wait. Lance Oppenheim and seeing things lately and see, right. right yeah exactly he's obviously like on a very fun little kick of being like so public personas what's that all about what's the deal with you

Speaker: I mean, so true, Lance Oppenheim. What are we all doing? In a post -truth society, what is this all about? and That's a great question. So that's You Can See Everything. Anyway, that is You Can See Everything and also our road to EGOT. Exciting!

Speaker: Would love to eat that. what else did i see oh sense and sensibility yes it's just a money sense sensibility too yes how did you how did you like it we haven't i didn't really like it no we didn't um i really enjoyed it there was a lot of yearning i love this lot of your i love a real yearner i love some yearning um yes I do. I feel like I wasn't as connected with it as I...

Speaker: could have been maybe but I wasn't really expecting to I'm honestly I kind of forget sometimes I'm not always a huge period piece girl my few period pieces that I like I love But I don't tend to always fall in love immediately with them. So I kind of forgot about that. its like an interesting dynamic trade -off between the two of us where i feel like you don't really like respond as much to some like romance i really don't

Speaker: and i really do which is interesting yeah but then between the two of us i feel like overall like you're so much more like affectionate yeah like bubble you know like in that type of yes i seem like i would be more romantically inclined yeah interesting observation it is interesting because i really love a period yeah i like all of that honestly it's something that makes so little sense for me as a person that i often forget

Speaker: That I will turn on a rom -com and be like. this is bad and it's not bad i just don't like it right but i really liked insensibility i really did um i was Maybe this is something genuinely stupid to say. um I was surprised how similar it was to Pride and Prejudice. like It's not a story I'm familiar with. I was like, oh, they're kind of doing the same plot.

Speaker: Miss Austin. I see your self -plagiarization. Yeah, I feel like the real Austin heads maybe take umbrage. But there's obviously something to say about like... She was still writing in the exact same time period. Exactly. there was like different focuses themes exactly or like micro themes that she's exploring i've only read um Persuasion?

Speaker: i actually don't think i've read any jane austen so like i really don't have a leg to stand on i'm not coming for jane austen at all i love her no even as a non -romance girl i love her what a diva um you know yeah but now that like i read weathering heights again earlier this year i'm like i should really try to read Pride and Prejudice because I feel like the age in which I first read or was introduced to both of those i found

Speaker: actually like track like understanding what was happening yeah much harder. And being Wuthering Heights earlier this year, I was like, oh. That's like completely fine. Like I get it. this maybe i should return i should try i should try to read pride and prejudice yeah and sensibility i should do that i love the stories i haven't really touched a lot of

Speaker: like really old classics since like high school just because I expect them to be harder and then a while ago I read Edgar Allan Poe's only novel that he wrote which honestly has a really long name that i don't remember about a shipwreck that i really enjoyed but i was expecting it to be so hard to read and follow because it was written in like 1843

Speaker: And it was completely not difficult at all. I was like, yeah oh, okay, I'm just an adult now. Yeah, exactly. I honestly thought it was... I can parse what you're talking about. Yeah. Completely a delightful realization. I was like, oh, my brain was just mush. It's great. I was just stupid. I didn't know things yet. yeah I was but a child when I first tried. but Yeah. And like.

Speaker: You're right. Like it did have. in its essence something very similar to the 2005 pride and prejudice i know it came comes from the same creators basically i understand which is probably also definitely part of it yeah um but that two thousand by pride prejudice is I mean, perfect a perfect movie. It is perfect.

Speaker: So no complaints here that I was finding similarities. It's only compliments. It was also like... The focus on sisterhood, which like, it's just a big part of it, a big, important, beautiful part of it. It's lovely. I really liked it. yeah I wasn't expecting there to be so much. sisterhood I guess. Yeah, and because I really liked how it's kind of like you know so much of these stories is about communication

Speaker: or the lack thereof yeah or whatever is constraining communication which is also can be societal but also like yeah the young the young ladies different dispositions and such and so I really liked how that like played out so thoroughly like across the board like between the love interests but then also between the two main sisters yeah between Eleanor and Marianne and just how differently they communicate with such a thing like I think that's one of the differences I was just re -watching last night i just started re -watching the 1995 friday with and jennifer

Speaker: eel or l i can't quite remember how you say her last name but i think with the like sisters between jane and lizzie bennett they like communicate much clearly if they're yeah just like as a you're right they communicate way more clearly um you're still kind of like holding things close to your chest about there you but like that but I liked how that was

Speaker: really centered as like a conflict. in sense and definitely yeah I think yeah Marianne reminded me a lot more of obviously she's not a Jane she's kind of is it Liddy is the younger sister in Pride and Prejudice yeah where she's running about and she's very excited to have a soldier and to fall in love and then she's also obviously got her mr wickham moment yes yes yes it's much more similar she's living a litty life yeah I think that was...

Speaker: fully one of my favorite parts of the movie it the movie it really kind of i don't know i i was i was really into it I really liked the chemistry between honestly just like everyone but i really bought into like between miss daisy ecker jones and the other one yes the boy yeah um ah i really like george mckay sorry um what else is he in you look so familiar to me I'm glad you asked.

Speaker: I've seen him in a couple things. Me and my friend. went to go see this movie that he was in called the end back in like 2025 early 2025 maybe that we both agree with like no fault his own was like one of the weirder like bad movies we've seen it was really strange it was kind of this like musical about like

Speaker: It's kind of like post -apocalyptic. People were in a bunker. Like this family was like existing in a bunker. Tilda Swinton was there. it was very strange and like didn't like we both kind of like once it was done we both kind of looked at each other we were like not quite right like yeah that just wasn't it because then i think my like joking letterboxd review was something about like The...

Speaker: bunker that makes everyone a bad singer and a republican oh my god it was so weird it was so it was so hu objectively a bit strange um which again i think he was like fine in it it's just like the premise and the execution we were just like it's so unclear what's happening here um so i know him from that and i can't quite remember what else he was in a movie called wolf that i watched that oh from 1917 That's his main thing, I think.

Speaker: yeah probably the obscure strange things that i have seen as a main thing um but i really liked him in this i thought he was he came across also he's in a movie that just came out with um mr dualipa i'm so sorry i don't know his name callum turner called rose of nevada that I haven't seen but it's been on my list so I keep seeing. his face on that poster. see if we have to invest in mr george mckay yeah i like him i think he's good like i like a very kind of like gung -ho dropped in

Speaker: actor and i feel like across the things that i've seen them in even if they are slightly more obscure and kind of like interesting little premises very like present yeah he was so I was locked into that story. I like i was going to say I wish there was more of that, but like not really, obviously, because that was part of it was.

Speaker: them not being together the whole time. Yeah. I it's just like silly but sometimes when I'm watching like specifically a period piece or anything like that I find myself like thinking in the language that they're using and toward the end of the movie it like seemed like it was gonna end and they hadn't gotten back together like I didn't know how much time was left in the movie and I caught myself thinking to myself very clearly and what of Edward and then I was like why are you I was like, why are you?

Speaker: thinking like that. That's not how you speak. what of edward I literally had a moment sitting by myself where I was like, who just said that? What? yeah well no i i think like literally what of edward like it was he was important to me of course yes exactly he has like a good i i feel like they were very like the men were characterized kind of like perfectly in my book which yeah say like deferential in their life.

Speaker: not too much and like nice like i don't know like such good yearning eyes too yes yes he had a good he played it very well very clearly in love on his face and just fucked up about it yeah exactly which is what we want exactly i love to see On my screen, a man in pain.

Speaker: I love it I was going to say like one of my favorite parts is such a simple, simple moment. But when Colonel Brandon like grabbed Willoughby and like yanked him up, I was like. ah Yeah. Another honestly, like.

Speaker: quiet yearner i really liked him obviously what a darcy what a mr darcy he is which book came first Is Mr. Darcy a Colonel Brandon?

Speaker: Let me look into this. That would complicate. That would really complicate. For a certain section of people. For me, just right now. Okay, Sunset Sensibility came out 1811. That is insane.

Speaker: What was she doing writing back then? Oh my god, Joelle! Pride and Prejudice came out in 1813. Wow. Mr. Darcy is a Colonel Brandon. Colonel Brandon is not a Mr. Darcy.

Speaker: This is so crazy. correcting the record this changes everything i can see mr darcy being also like look like an interesting combination of both of them though yeah so yes you're right because edward is also such a Mr. Darcy.

Speaker: Right? Yeah. interesting interesting and then willoughby and wickham yeah those two words she said what the hell ever yeah f throw a w name in too for them Yeah, I really enjoyed it. I would be happy to watch it again. this good yeah I think that that's also one that like I will build my appreciation for it over time, which is what happened with Pride and Prejudice. like Not that I didn't like it at all the first time I saw it. I really enjoyed it, but now I love it.

Speaker: And it's a favorite of mine. And I could see that happening here also. Indeed. Yeah, I feel like I've like, I mean, I know we've been both been talking about things we've seen, but I want to get to any more of your specific oh yeah media fixations. What do I have? Okay, I'll talk about the one that I mentioned earlier this morning.

Speaker: this morning. like an hour ago when we were talking um that I haven't seen yet. I've been seeing a lot of trailers for. a new show i think created by the creators of traitors have you seen this called the mob i don't know what it's about but it's a oh wait i saw one maybe one commercial it's like a another reality tv show and you know who's in it joelle Is it Bachelor Joey? Maria. Maria from Bachelor Joey's season. Uh -huh.

Speaker: Or girl, this is, if you don't know, if you were not watching The Bachelor. Which we really, we together only watched one season. I've only seen one season. I've seen a few seasons of The Bachelorette because I like that show. I think I've probably only watched like one season of The Bachelor. I don't really like it. I don't think it's as good. Whatever. We watched a couple years ago, Joey's season. And there is a girl named Maria.

Speaker: Yes. Who was one of the bachelorettes. Is that what they call them? Because she wasn't the main one. Whatever. I don't know. one of the Yeah, one of the girls one fighting for Joey's heart. She got far. She got really far. She got like final.

Speaker: Five? Did she make it to Final Four? Did she do hometowns? i think she did do hometowns i think they remember that i remember him in her house okay so then you like they must have it

Speaker: huh like not in a crazy way but she was like I've just never had anyone be this close that's crazy I don't remember that at all yeah I just wanted to talk about Maria a little because I she hasn't been anywhere since then i everyone really thought that I do everyone really thought she was going to be the next bachelorette I think because she was such a fan favorite and she didn't win obviously she didn't marry Joey and then she just went was huge she didn't go anywhere Maria was huge in our house Maria went platinum Maria or she went triple platinum We loved Maria. She...

Speaker: and like even if you don't follow the bachelorette or the bachelor i feel like you've probably seen that clip of her being like let me change into something a little more comfortable and then coming out in the craziest dress you've ever seen in your life oh my god oh watching it live you were like it was incredible jaws on the floor like she's she's sensational crazy she's awesome like in the best possible way Closings.

Speaker: problems causing problems in the most awesome way by just being literally too fly too hot and too cool and it was we really Those girls on her season hated her, and I really think it was because at least some of them were in love with her and didn't know what to do with it. They had never met a woman that cool and beautiful before in their lives, and they couldn't handle it. They didn't know how to handle her.

Speaker: exactly yeah that was is like a major issue with that sydney girl Yes, Sydney. Mm -hmm. i don't remember why but there was some problem they had sydney

Speaker: She wasn't a fan of Maria's work. She wasn't a fan of Maria's work. And I wasn't a fan of Sydney's work. No. The way that she was acting. I love to like speak of women no matter what, even if they're served up to you on the mediated reality TV with a little bit of respect. But yes what we saw - She was given ah a really bad villain edit.

Speaker: yes At least. Exactly. where we were like, no. is going on now is she okay Because I'm sure we're missing context. I'm sure context was taken out. She did not seem okay. The way that she was acting did not seem to not seem okay. Like it didn't seem proportional to what was happening.

Speaker: at all exactly so that's also so that's why i'm like i'm sure that we're missing context you know yeah but exactly but that was i mean it was pretty entertaining and maria she lost her damn mind yeah But that was such a good season. and It was so great. Exactly. she was she was the draw she was the best oh my god maria yeah and she's gonna be really liked how she and joey sorry i'm just still being like we should be like she was so they were so charming they had such like a

Speaker: And I know that Joey married the other girl from the show. Like, I'm not saying they should have been together. Exactly. They seem great together. if Kelsey, if you're listening, like, yeellsey we know this is nothing against Kelsey. You know, they seem very happy together. It was just watching.

Speaker: Maria and Joey together. It was a very entertaining. Like entrancing.

Speaker: kind of charm that she had yes yes that it was just it was getting us honestly yeah exactly i was like i'm literally just so bought it yeah i love this it was so easy to really fall for it and she's gonna be on this show for the first time i've seen her on tv ever since i saw a flash of her mouth on my commercial apparently i guess i'll be watching the mob you know who else is gonna be on this show i have a slight flip here At least in... my response to it. Harry Jowsey.

Speaker: And I need that neon. off my TV. Why? Has he been on it? every reality tv show that's ever been made what's going on get him out of my face i don't care about him you know when i just said that like no matter what still try to talk about women with some respect even if they're the served up on the platter

Speaker: i don't feel the exact same about men i don't feel the same about men and i don't feel the same way about harry jowsey about him at least specifically okay because i don't understand who is that and i don't want to see it and It it really kind of like disturbs my soul and in a very interesting way. Get him out of my face. Worst i don't know if of heteronormativity. It is. it is I've seen in a while. The Let's Marry Harry show. I was just going to say, oh i don I don't know if you witnessed this at all, but throughout New York, there were posters on light poles.

Speaker: Like. for the Let's Marry Harry thing. That's rage bait. Literally. i It was has been making me feel crazy. To pull down light poles. Yeah.

Speaker: They're trying to do like the eagles thing. like Yeah, exactly. speaking to i don't know society in general. Are people a fan of him? like Do people like him? I'm genuinely asking.

Speaker: I don't know him i get I don't have a personal issue with him. I just don't get it. I don't get it. Why is he everywhere? Cause especially like what he was on, which was too hot to handle. He started too hot to handle. And he was mean on that. And even, yeah he was not a good person on his, foot his intro to. Like... the larger society as a whole when we all got to know him i understand that like

Speaker: That is. part of it too you know like for some reason just whatever is the marketability of like of a character like he's he's a bit of a character yeah sure but like this is what i mean like we should want more we should want more that's not compelling to me whatsoever like he was like he kind of man child and he's continuing to be and now he doesn't like give much he's just really tall i think yeah for some reason like

Speaker: he is where i draw the line i so reject like truly on the way that like would get me like two woke accusations maybe even though i think it's bare minimum the premise of let's marry harry that is a ridiculous show are there enough women out there that want him

Speaker: To make a show out of it? Is that the premise of this show? And this is where I start feeling... Let me think of it in a positive light. no let me reframe yes because there's a lot of different people in the world that's so true it's so beautiful yeah you're right There are women out there who are different from me.

Speaker: Yeah. And they want to marry Harry, I guess. Yeah. So, yeah, I will maybe be watching the mob because it will feature Maria, but it will also feature harrys your Harry. And I. Though maybe I want to watch the two of them interact. I want to watch her, like, body him, I think. That's the thing. That's what I feel like must happen. She seems like she could give him a talking to that he needs.

Speaker: Yeah. So maybe that would be good. Is it her place to labor in such a way? Exactly. We don't need to give her that. We don't need to give her the labor. No, that's interesting. interesting show or i mean i don't even know the i actually don't know the premise either yeah i could have done more research on this i just saw the commercial one time and i saw two faces i knew and i said we have to talk about this So yeah. Meow. I love her. We love Maria in this house. Yeah. Maria Stans. All right. All right. So we're ending the episode talking about Maria. Yeah. And viewing Unkind, Airy, Jowsey. And that's okay. That is okay. Sometimes you just have to be true to yourself and who you are. Exactly. You guys come here for hot gossip and opinions. That's why we've always built this show. Exactly. Reality TV recaps. You know what I mean? Reality TV from like five plus years ago. oh my god yeah it's really not something that i think either of us really know we don't tend to be reality tv girls i respect it absolutely it's just not my cup of tea it's another one of those things like i should be a reality tv girl and i should be a romance girl it doesn't really make any sense that I'm not. But here we are.

Speaker: Isn't he beautiful? They contain multitudes and those multitudes don't always make sense. It can't be always what you expect. don't Do not profile my dear friend Ella. Exactly. Thank you. thinking delay well rock I like a rom Yeah, exactly. like It's the very broad romance genre. It just has to be a little silly. i It's like my action movies. I don't really like an action movie that isn't a little bit stupid. Yeah.

Speaker: And that's why I liked Whale Fall. so yeah is more detailed that's why i like talked about last week i was excited to see it i saw it that's all we got for you folks it was great i don't necessarily recommend it i had fun yeah And that is what matters. And if like you're a, I like, I told you all I was not going to talk about whale fall. Like if you're a person who you are like. I would like that. I should watch it. Then you should watch it.

Speaker: If you watch the trailer and you're like, huh. don't watch it That's me. Yeah, that movie's not for Joel. And that's okay. He's stuck in that whale. He was in that whale. And Joel...

Speaker: Inside of a whale is gross. I didn't think about that. I mean... I was kind of picturing like a Pinocchio situation. Him sitting on the big tongue. Exactly. I was picturing that, but CGI. I miss my dad.

Speaker: But no, it was gross. He was getting like squished in there. He was getting digested a little. It was gross. Sorry. It's okay. It was literally gross.

Speaker: That almost was a genuine gag. that was that was that was as close as we usually get sorry i'm gonna like tell you in detail now that i can't stop myself now that i've started he i think was trying to climb into the mouth But like, you know, you can't.

Speaker: There's no Google Maps in the whale. um you You don't know where leads to where. obviously there is And that's what they always say. um they always So he just like. climbed somewhere and then yeah turned out to be in like the stomach part i think or wherever he was and it was I actually don't need to describe it because it was really gross. He started to get digested.

Speaker: It was gross. love well i have a chill at my spot anyway don't even worry because then he climbed back into the mouth part and then he climbed into the front part Thank God. so and It was kind of a cave diving movie if the cave was gross. Make that the tagline. And if my grandma had wheels, she'd be a bike. Exactly. And also, Thanos was there. well yeah whatever his name is John Bernthal Josh that's not his name

Speaker: It's not his name at all. Josh Grohl. And I had the letters right. That's really what matters in the end. JB. You're lucky I didn't say Justin Bieber. so You're lucky. You're lucky.

Speaker: oh my god yeah Okay, we do gotta go. um thank you for listening us now today as always follow us on all platforms at fixated that .pod if you care for more or if you don't you should still do that you should still do it i think I think you have a really nice time engaging with us until next time see you real soon bye

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