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Are You Really Neurodivergent? ADHD Myths, Acting & DC Truths
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Is your ADHD lived experience — or a self-diagnosis from Instagram reels? In this Sibling Happy Hour episode, Bruce Anthony and Jay Aundrea dive into neurodivergence, object permanence, time blindness, and the rise of ADHD self-diagnosis online. They unpack how living with ADHD impacts memory, relationships, and routines — from “out of sight, out of mind” object permanence to earworms and the chaos of time management.
The siblings also react to Clifton Powell’s take on acting boundaries, intimacy on set, and what it means to say no in Hollywood. Plus, a heated conversation about Washington, DC politics — from Mayor Bowser’s emergency operations to the feeling of a “mini occupation” and whether federalized policing is a solution or a problem.
Expect raw honesty, sibling banter, and thought-provoking debate mixing humor with real life. If you’ve ever wondered about ADHD, neurodivergence, acting ethics, or DC politics, this episode is packed with relatable insights and powerful perspectives. #adhdawareness #socialmediatrends #neurodivergentvoices #ActingBoundaries #unsolicitedperspectives
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Chapters:
00:00 Welcome to Unsolicited Perspectives 🎙️🔥💥
00:59 Sibling Happy Hour: Sips, Laughs & Sibling Shenanigans 🍹😂
05:16 DC Politics: Mayor Bowser's Controversial Decision 🏛️👮♂️
11:25 Youth Crime: Reality vs. Media Perception 🤔📊
16:46 Black QBs Making History in the NFC East 🏈👊
19:57 Understanding ADHD & Neurodivergence: The Real Deal 🧠💭
21:17 Object Permanence: Out of Sight, Out of Mind? 🧠🔍
28:22 Relationships & Object Permanence: A Different Perspective 💭❤️
32:44 Living with Neurodivergence: Routines, Time & Keeping It 100 ⏰📝
41:11 Earworms: When Songs Get Stuck in Your Head 🎵🐛
58:24 Exploring Comfort Zones & Personal Boundaries 🎯💫
01:04:05 Wrapping Up: Final Thoughts & Takeaways 🎬✨
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Introduction and Conversation Themes
00:00:00
Speaker
ADHD, neurodivergence, and acting, we gonna get into it. Let's get it.
00:00:18
Speaker
Welcome. First of all, welcome. This is Unsolicited Perspectives. I'm your host, Bruce Anthony, here to lead the conversation in important events and topics that are shaping today's society. Join the conversation or follow us wherever you get your audio podcasts. Subscribe to our YouTube channel for our video podcasts, YouTube exclusive content, and our YouTube memberships.
00:00:37
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Rate, review, like, comment, share. Share with your friends, share with your family, hell, even share with your enemies.
Beginning ADHD and Neurodivergence Discussion
00:00:45
Speaker
On today's episode, it's the sibling happy hour. I'm here with my sis, Jay Andrea. We're going be dilly-dadding a little bit, and then we're going talk about ADHD and neurodivergence, and then we're going talking about acting and the roles that people play.
00:00:59
Speaker
But that's enough of the intro. Let's get to the show.
00:01:09
Speaker
What up, sis? What up, Bretta? I can't call it. I can't call it.
D.C. Policing and Governance Complexities
00:01:14
Speaker
You did something interesting literally right before we hopped on here and started recording. I was on your stories and you made a little comment about the mayor of Washington, D.C.,
00:01:28
Speaker
Oh, I thought you were talking about the posts where all the ah quarterbacks in the NFC East, the starting quarterbacks are black. No, but we can talk about that as well. I want to talk about it. It's all D.C.-centric. Okay, tell you what. yeah This dilly-dally is D.C.-centric. But how you feel about the the mayor of Washington, D.C. right now?
00:01:48
Speaker
Um, i don't know. She kind of seemed like an op. Here's the thing. i i know she's... Mayor Muriel Bowser is in between a rock and a hard place, essentially, right? Like, she's got to...
00:02:07
Speaker
protect the city, and she's got to do it under an authoritarian fascist regime. Tell me you really feel. So it's not great, okay?
00:02:19
Speaker
So... Basically, her latest executive order, it was to keep local operations in step with the federal takeover. Right.
00:02:31
Speaker
So she's establishing the, quote, safe and beautiful emergency operations center. I am pretty sure. She did not come up with that name. And the reason why I know is because the word beautiful is in it. And we all know that the carrot in chief loves to put that in the name of his bills and, you know, operations and things like that.
00:02:57
Speaker
He likes to put elementary adjectives. Yeah. Yeah. And so anything he's describing. Yeah. Yeah. So basically what it is is she'll be coordinating with federal agencies and she framed it as a transition plan to signal the end of the the emergency that he called for the city, which even though crime is down, so I don't understand what the emergency was or why that emergency required federal agents and National Guard troops to be at the Shake Shack and Union Station. But OK.
00:03:36
Speaker
Don't know where the crime's occurring at Union Station, but sure. So hopefully that will end by
Federal Control vs. Local Governance in D.C.
00:03:42
Speaker
September 10th. But, you know... Only, according to, it might be Politico, about 17 to 20% of D.C. residents support federalized policing, right? Most people argue against the continued presence of, like, National Guard troops, which, like I said, are often in, like, these tourist zones, right?
00:04:09
Speaker
There's really no, like, there's nothing going on in the city that, like, legitimizes this military occupation. so I, okay. She's supporting this emergency facility and continued coordination so that she could hopefully normalize, you know, city operations, like she said, by September 10th. So Still, to me, feels like an op.
00:04:43
Speaker
Because I feel like there are other, you know, local officials. We can look at Gavin Newsom, right? And, like, all of the Trump trolling that he's been doing.
00:04:55
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and And the legislation that he's trying to pass to counteract the gerrymandering in Texas.
Public Sentiment and Crime Perceptions
00:05:03
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Like, there I feel like there are other leaders, like local leaders that are...
00:05:08
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really pushing back on this and it be and it feels like she's taking a knee. It's apples and oranges. And I'll tell you why it's apples and oranges.
00:05:20
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Newsom is a governor. She's a mayor of a city in which the federal government controls that city's budget. Not saying that the mayor of DC is a figurehead, but they don't have a tremendous ah amount of power because there's so much federal land that DC has the legislative body, Congress and the city has a lot of control over DC, a lot, a tremendous amount. There's a reason why Trump is able to do this because there's so much federal land, he's able to say, well, no, I can go protect this because that's under my purview. He's kind of almost right.
00:06:00
Speaker
Now, Mayor Bowser, there's been some stuff over her tenure that she pro-police. And nobody is anti-police.
00:06:11
Speaker
No, we need law right enforcement. But she is she is almost like back the blue type. Yeah. ah She has a history of these type of things. So this kind of falls in line with a little of her policies. Remember, she's a D.C. Democrat.
00:06:30
Speaker
D.C. Democrats tend to be moderate, not liberal. These were the same people that pushed for the 1994 crime bill. So this is not something new.
00:06:43
Speaker
um Yeah. Where D.C. Democrats, D.C., the people that are in the city council, not everybody, but people are in the city council, people that are represented in and Congress from D.C., they tend to be a little bit more moderate. Hey, let's get this crime down now.
Community Programs vs. Federal Intervention
00:06:59
Speaker
really Is there a reason why D.C. should be militarized? No.
00:07:04
Speaker
But. There are instances where these kids are wilding out. And though they're not an everyday thing, when you're older, something happens in us where we become fearful. When we were young, we weren't afraid of nothing.
00:07:21
Speaker
When we get older, we get a little bit more fearful and almost nothing scares me more, as in people, than bunch of little youngins in a group. yeah Yeah, but the problem, it it would mean something if these National Guard troops and federal agents were actually reaching vulnerable neighborhoods, but they're not. They're not. They're not placed in those neighborhoods. Because once again, they had to be placed sort of near federal land.
00:07:52
Speaker
So he can't just disperse them throughout the entire city. is that Is that the case? I don't know if that's the I mean, they're parked up at, like, Union Station. They'll be in, like, the metro stops. They're not...
00:08:06
Speaker
They're at the mall. You know, they're not not all over the city. Right. So then if they can't even address, you know, vulnerabilities in high crime areas, which these areas... show then Then there's literally no point in them being there. And then and so Bowser's
ADHD Symptoms and Personal Experiences
00:08:27
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executive order...
00:08:29
Speaker
Hold on. Yes yes and no. Because kids can wild out. Look, Pentagon Mall, which actually in Virginia, was shut down, i think, the beginning a summer.
00:08:41
Speaker
Because kids were in the mall wilding out and a big fight happened. They literally shut down the mall. And the mall is across the street from the Pentagon.
00:08:53
Speaker
They shut down the mall. So... These kids, I mean, they're just, then I don't, then they're not. they're not How about we fund, oh, I don't know, social programs, outreach programs.
00:09:08
Speaker
How about we put all of this money, the money that we're wasting, deploying National Guard troops and federal agents. Why don't we put this towards programs or social programs and things like that to help give these kids something else to do?
00:09:23
Speaker
Programs that we know work because we see them working in other cities. there's There's some people in the city who will say they do put a lot of money in these programs.
00:09:35
Speaker
That there are boys and girls clubs, that there are YMC, there are things for kids did to do. But I guess ah a lot of the kids, not even a lot, I don't even know what the percentage of the kids are. I just know when something does happen, it looks like to old people eyes like the world is coming in to an end and there's no control.
00:09:58
Speaker
But this is few and far between. It's like, this is a bad analogy, but an analogy that you guys can deal with. And I'm not comparing kids to dogs, but anybody that has a dog owner that's house trained,
00:10:12
Speaker
every now and then they're going to have an accident in the house, right? It is few and far between when they actually do. And nine times out of 10, it's the owner's fault.
00:10:23
Speaker
But even still, sometimes dogs have accidents. Well, but that kind of relation as far as frequency could be compared to how these kids are welling out.
00:10:33
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It's not an everyday thing. not every weekend thing. It's not even, I would say, once or twice a month. But when it happens, You're like, oh, shit, this is a big deal.
00:10:44
Speaker
But it really isn't. It's not a big deal. This is not some epidemic. You know what is an epidemic?
Managing ADHD and Maintaining Relationships
00:10:50
Speaker
School shootings. That's an epidemic. Kids whileing out is not epidemic. It is scary to the older individuals because if it's if it's intimidating to somebody like me,
00:11:05
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I know Joe Smo in middle America is going to be absolutely terrified. So it's a reaction to, to these things. Yeah. No, I don't, I don't dispute the, like the surface basis for it, right? there that the um The talking point cause of it, right?
00:11:28
Speaker
Of why they sent it. We all know the actual cause is he's targeting Democratic cities. And the problem with this executive order that she signed is it's ah it's It's like a tacit acceptance of federal control over local policing. And it's going to set a really bad precedent for other cities that are pushing back against him, threatening to send federal agents and and National Guard members to their cities.
00:12:00
Speaker
Yes. No, i absolutely agree on that. It's a bad look. But... Devil's advocate, what if she actually believes it? she's If she's in a tough position, if she actually believes that this is helping. But she is not in line with her constituency.
00:12:18
Speaker
Yeah, okay. Well, yes, that's true. That's true. By and large, yeah, you're right. So, I don't know. um Look, I actually haven't stepped foot in the D.C. city limits, ah aside from rocking on the metro,
00:12:35
Speaker
Like, I kind of don't go into the city that often anyway to go party and stuff like that, because as soon as you step outside and the city, it's $750. Yeah, literally From what I hear, because I talk to people who live in the city city all the time,
00:12:51
Speaker
it doesn't quite feel like an occupation, but it kind of does. It's like a mini occupation. I mean, it's like many, right? Because yeah it's a show of force. Well, they carry guns now.
00:13:04
Speaker
Well, yeah. Yes, they have been for a couple of weeks now. It's literally a show of force for those tourists that are coming into town. Yeah, it's literally a show. People that live in the city, by and large, feel absolutely safe. I mean, don't get me wrong. You might have your brushes with crime, you're going to have your brushes with crime in any major metropolitan city.
00:13:23
Speaker
but Right. But more or less, people feel safe. It's those tourists. It's those two. And we have it. I mean, Washington, D.C. I see them truckloads of people coming into the city all the time.
00:13:35
Speaker
And they're in those high traffic areas in Washington, D.C. They're all at the mall smelling like boiled corned beef. Because it's hot during the summertime.
00:13:46
Speaker
Yes. And sweaty. And they're on the metro. And they don't know how to walk on the escalators properly. Right. And they're ruining my good city. But it's it's for them. And you're right.
00:13:57
Speaker
This does give a bad look. Because he's he's, you know, been on his true social saying, you know, Mayor Bowser is is with us, you know? yeah Just don't do those woke policies again. And it's like, ah.
00:14:12
Speaker
You know, it's kind of like when you're saying something and your op is agreeing with you and you're like,
Cultural Insights: Black Quarterbacks and College Football
00:14:19
Speaker
mm. Yeah, I said something wrong. Yeah, I don't want you agreeing with me. Can you not agree with me?
00:14:24
Speaker
Can you not back me up on this one? And I feel like the term woke just means anything in opposition to Trump. Like it is all, it's lost all like racial relevancy to me because now they're just saying anything's woke.
00:14:41
Speaker
Well, anything. The people that feel, the people that use the word woke are part of the privileged here in this country. Okay. and when the privileged are faced with equality,
00:14:58
Speaker
For the privilege, it looks a lot like oppression. Right. So, yes, they're going to attack Cracker Barrel. They're going to attack Superman. They're going to attack anything that's different that's automatically woke.
00:15:12
Speaker
And I just laugh at it now because you sound real ignorant. You know, like a person that uses a big word, but it's clear that they don't know the meaning of the word, don't know how to use it in the right context.
00:15:23
Speaker
And they try to use them all the time. You just say, you know what? I'm not even going to correct you this time. Just go ahead and keep talking stupid. yeah That's how i feel about that. But also, the Washington Commanders starting a Black quarterback.
00:15:37
Speaker
Yep. The New York Football Giants starting a Black quarterback. Mm-hmm. The Philadelphia Eagles starting your love, a Black quarterback. Jalen Hurts. See you tomorrow. Go Cowboys. And the Dallas Cowboys. Oh, that's the game tomorrow. Okay. And the Dallas Cowboys starting a Black quarterback. The NFC East. Yeah.
00:15:56
Speaker
Yeah. that's ah it's it's very exciting. It's unprecedented and very exciting. So, yes. You know, and they all good, too.
00:16:06
Speaker
Ain't none of them bad. Ain't none of them bad. Well, actually, I don't know about the quarterback for the Giants. I don't know about that. I'll find out tomorrow. Oh, it's it well, Russell Wilson's been washed for a while, but I'll tell you what, I'm going to listen to CeCe's new album, CeCe.
00:16:22
Speaker
well Well, that goes without saying. I've been i've been a Sierra fan since goodies. She's still fine, Sierra. Thank girl. Woo! Four kids later. She got four?
00:16:34
Speaker
Four. How many by future? One. Okay. All right. Yeah. yeah see Boys, two girls, three with Russell, one with Future.
00:16:45
Speaker
of by of course, Future Jr. But yeah, like, yeah, she's still that girl to me, period. Well, Russell's a little watched, so don't know. We'll see what happens. We'll see what happens. The Giants have been struggling for a little bit, so we'll see what happens.
00:16:59
Speaker
I don't know. I'm actually going pay attention to football this year. be the first time in like five years. Yeah. Or I'm going to attempt to pay attention. Who knows? We film on Sundays.
00:17:09
Speaker
And then when I'm done, i i normally forget. I'm like, damn, it was football that saw it. And I forget. yeah I forgot on Saturday there was football. I'm trying to get into college football. I just watched, it's a Netflix like documentary special. I think it was like it's called Any Given Saturday, maybe, or something like that. Okay. And it was about the SEC.
00:17:31
Speaker
SEC. Yeah. um Not SEC. No, you said right. That's how I said That's how I said it. But yeah, and it kind of got me. I was like, okay, well, now wait a damn minute.
00:17:43
Speaker
You know, I live in the South. You do. i mean Maybe I should, you know, follow. I keep hearing people randomly yell, roll tide. i don't know what the hell that means. You know, so like. I'm surprised. But the Georgia, Florida game.
00:18:02
Speaker
It's a huge rivalry game, and they have a big ah party. yeah like The University of Georgia isn't far from you, right? It's like an hour. yeah got to Got to tailgate. Got to get some folks out there that know how to tailgate and go out to the tailgate and go see some college football. I like college football better than the NFL because the atmosphere is so...
00:18:23
Speaker
It's so energetic. Yeah. Yeah. It's little energetic. It's nothing like Ruta for your school. Well, football. you have more of an investment than like Ruta for your team, like an NFL team.
00:18:36
Speaker
Because, you know, i didn't used to play for the Eagles. Sometimes people take it real serious. yeah some Sometimes people take it a little too serious. I mean, but that's sports in general. But like.
00:18:47
Speaker
But if it's your school, like it's your school you go to, or, you know, it's just you feel more of a connection to it. And let these kids, man, they be having a good time. So I'm trying to get more into. Plus, you know, you got to keep an eye out who's the next draft pick. So you got to.
00:19:04
Speaker
I can't saw that. I'm trying get into it a little more. But I always tell people, what is fans short for? Fanatics. That's right. And fanatics can be extreme.
00:19:16
Speaker
Yes. Fanatic. Yes. Speaking
Professional Diagnosis vs. Self-Diagnosis in ADHD
00:19:20
Speaker
of fanatics, there's some fanatic people on social media that are just taking any and everything and throwing it under ADHD and neurodivergence.
00:19:34
Speaker
And they're getting it all wrong. And we're going talk a little bit about it next.
00:19:48
Speaker
All right, Jay, neodivergence. I've had interviews with several people that have neodivergence. yeah You have neodivergence. A couple of our family members have neodivergence.
00:20:01
Speaker
yeah ah Some would say that maybe I do. stuff Some would say. Some would say. would say.
00:20:10
Speaker
Well, we're talking about this because you have been saying that I have ADHD for the longest. Yes. would give me reading material and I have to be like, Jay, don't fit half the stuff up in here. And you're like, yes, you do.
00:20:22
Speaker
you And sometimes... People can say things to you and it'll register. And then sometimes it won't. Sometimes the things that people say will register later.
00:20:34
Speaker
And this was a prime example. One of the prime examples of me realizing, you know what? You might be right. I may have ADHD. It's because of object permanence. Now, think that's how you say the word.
00:20:48
Speaker
Is this very hard for me? Object permanence. Like I said, permanence. Yes. It's just like a weird word. But what is it? It's the understanding that objects continue to exist even when they are not visible, heard, or directly sensed.
00:21:03
Speaker
Most people don't have an issue with object permit, with OP. p Just like like permanent? No, i'm just going call it OP from here out.
00:21:14
Speaker
It's OP from here on out. All right. OP in adults most often manifest as part of an everyday memory attention processes. But in those with ADHD, challenges with object OP, p OP are common, though not an officially recognized so symptom and in clinically diagnosed criteria. So just because you have OP doesn't necessarily mean... Or you experience issues with object permanence. Yeah, it doesn't necessarily mean that you're neurodivergent because...
00:21:49
Speaker
In adults, generally, adults typically display strong OP, p meaning they remember and act on the existence of people, tasks, objects, and commitments, even in those things are not present or immediately visible. This allows a person to plan ahead, maintain relationships, and keep track of responsibilities such as appointments, bills, and personal items.
00:22:10
Speaker
A lot of people are hearing that and be like, yeah, that's me. Yeah, I'm not really talking to you, okay? yeah What I'm talking to is how it shows up in people that have ADHD. And this is when you were, think it was you that brought this up.
00:22:25
Speaker
Mm-hmm. Or somebody brought it up and it made me think, and i was like, ooh, maybe my sister is right. Because how OP shows up in people that, adults that have ADHD is they often experience challenges. It's described as almost like an out of sight, out of mind type of situation.
00:22:42
Speaker
This is mostly related to difficulties in working memory and attention regulation, not a fundamental inability to understand existence. Some ways in which this shows up.
00:22:53
Speaker
Forgetting about tasks, appointments, or chores unless they are visible or prompted. Losing track of items, even important ones if not kept in obvious places. Failing to maintain contact with people who aren't present, leading to strained relationships.
00:23:09
Speaker
Now, that, or struggling to follow through on commitments unless regularly reminded. Now, it's that third one for me. yeah There have been so many women that I've dated And you go out on a couple of dates and you're having a good time. And I guess you're actively going out on dates.
00:23:29
Speaker
And then I'll disappear on them. And I would get called out for it. I would get a text. Hey. I'd be like, hey, what's up? And you'd be like, where have you been? I'm like, what the hell you talking about? Like, I've been right here.
00:23:43
Speaker
Like, I haven't heard from you for two months. was like, what are you talking about? just talked to you like the other day. Scroll back through the text messages and literally it's been two or three months. yeah And I just... Didn't realize it has been that long. It comes off as I don't care. And in some instances, ladies, I didn't care.
00:23:59
Speaker
But there were times where I genuinely liked the person. yeah And it was out of sight, out of mind. Not that I didn't care. It's just like, if they're not right there in front of me or there's something to remind me of them right there in front of me, I get sidetracked.
00:24:16
Speaker
And they just disappear in life. And I talked to somebody in our family and they said, yeah, I do that all the time. And I'm like, oh, yeah, this is hereditary. yeah And I know you make a strong concerted effort to check in with people so that this does not happen for you.
00:24:32
Speaker
yeah it was in this moment that I realized, you know what, Jay, I may have ADHD because this is a routine problem with not just people I date, with my friends, with family members that are consistently calling me out, you disappear. And it's just like, I have, I just, I just saw you the other day.
00:24:51
Speaker
This has been six months. Yeah. So yeah, I do have issues with object permanence. So for me, you'll see like my desk will be covered in sticky notes, right?
00:25:04
Speaker
Because I need different tasks that I have to do or reminders and things. They have to be visible. They have to be right there in front of me or I will lose track of them.
00:25:15
Speaker
ah I lose things all the time. So I have to put everything in very obvious places, just like you said, so that I can see them. If I can see it, I won't lose it.
00:25:25
Speaker
I won't forget about it. And it's ah it's it was really hard for me to come to terms with the fact that what object permanence means in terms of my relationships is that I don't miss people. And it sounds...
00:25:39
Speaker
terrible it It really was hard for me when I first like came to that realization of like, if i don't if someone is not in front of me in my presence, or somehow I'm prompted to remember them,
00:25:56
Speaker
then it is out of sight, out of mind. And so because I know that this is a part of just the way my brain works and you know there's nothing, it's just a natural, neurodiversity is just a natural part of just being a human, right? It's human diversity. So,
00:26:14
Speaker
I know that this is a part of a part of how my brain works. And so I have to come up with ways to compensate for that. So I will put reminders in my phone to follow up with somebody. I will put, you know, notes everywhere, write things down, keep things in multiple places on multiple calendars and things so that I got to see one of them.
00:26:38
Speaker
You know, right I put a note for myself up under the bathroom sink. Got to look there. I'm out of toilet paper. So it's like you got you got think the that's a little not to help to. What was the upstairs fifth floor? Bruh man. Yeah. bro Yeah. yeah But like you have to just work things in a different way because your mind just works in a different way.
00:27:00
Speaker
Yeah, so it's crazy because you've said that before. Like, I don't miss people. And like, I don't miss people either.
00:27:12
Speaker
and And it's not because I don't care about them because when I see them, All of it comes back. All of it comes back. And it's like, oh, yeah, that's right. I love you. yeah like think yeah But I don't miss them because of this, yeah because of OP.
00:27:28
Speaker
And a lot of people take that the wrong way, as if I don't care about them. Yeah, untrue. And it's not it's not true. lost friends. you know and i i've lost friends And women that I've dated.
00:27:43
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yeah Because they think you just don't care. And like, I do care. Like I'm telling you, I care. You don't really show it. I show when you're around, but when you're not around, out of sight, out of mind.
00:27:53
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And I, and this, the more and more I learned about OP and the more and more I did research, it explained so much. Every relationship that I've ever had, I'm talking about romantic relationships, every relationship I've ever had,
00:28:08
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I didn't necessarily miss the person. yeah It was the routines that we had. right so if I was dating a woman and she came over every Wednesday night to spend the night Wednesday night into Thursday, when we broke up, Monday, Tuesday,
00:28:25
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Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday, if we didn't have set routine days where we was doing stuff, I wasn't tripping. It would come hitting me on a Wednesday when that routine was off.
00:28:36
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So I didn't necessarily miss the person. I missed the routine. Yeah. But didn't mean that I didn't care about the person, but we just got set in routines. I care about people very deeply. And I know that when I finally see them again. Right.
00:28:52
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But it but just it's just the way my mind works. i Things have to be right in front of me. Right. Or somehow prompted. Somebody will say, you talked to so-and-so in a while?
00:29:05
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And then I'll be like, you know what? I haven't. Let me give them a call. You know what I'm saying? So it'll be things like that. But I make a concerted effort because I realize that i I've lost a lot of friends and I've had like you like you issues in relationships because it seems like I'm not communicating. But the truth is, I just forgot you existed, which sounds even worse. sounds even worse. It its it sounds even worse.
00:29:34
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But like, you know, life will get going. Things will start happening. And I forgot to text this person and yeah it has been two weeks and I'm sorry because I also have issues with time right and time blindness that I don't realize that two weeks three weeks have gone by explain to people what time blindness is So time blindness is another common neurodivergent disorder or or symptom, right?
00:30:07
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And it's basically you have a difficulty in the way you perceive time. So you underestimate how, or or ah you underestimate how long stuff should take, right? A task or something. You're like, hey, I'm just gonna hop in the shower real quick. I'll be out, I'll leave about 15 minutes.
00:30:27
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Well, by the time you get out the shower, 45 minutes have gone by. But you don't realize that because you you don't perceive time in the same way.
00:30:38
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So sometimes it feels like it's gone by fast. Sometimes it feels like it's gone by slow. Sometimes you don't even have a sense of the passage of time. yeah So, you know, you you have, of course, issues with time management, losing track of time, things like that. So I...
00:30:56
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I have... ah issues with object permanence and time blindness. So I don't see you and I don't contact you, it could be a long time before I'm prompted or i see you post on social media and then boom, I remember you. So that's another reason why I i do check my social media every day because it also helps me remember people. I see their pictures, I see their posts.
00:31:24
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It helps me remember. I'll reach out, I'll see it, send a DM or I'll send a text. So that I can keep that relationship up. so um Oh, if it wasn't for social media, 90% of the people in my life would never hear from me.
00:31:40
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yeah Like, would never hear from me unless they contacted me. Because it's just like, oh, I forgot about this person. let me let me it Literally, it will be, I forgot about this person yeah that I care about.
00:31:53
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yes Completely forgot about them. care about deeply. Yep. Completely forgot about them. And I realized, oh, I have not talked to them or engaged or actively participated in this relationship in quite some time.
00:32:06
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And I need to get, I need to get my stuff together. so I'm kind of bringing this up. We're going to into something else that, that affects people that are neurodivergent, but I'm bringing this up for several reasons. One,
00:32:21
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People need to stop self-diagnosing themselves on social media. Yeah. Just stop. Yeah. Okay. Go to a therapist. If a therapist diagnosed you with...
00:32:33
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neurodivergent, whatever, those things fall under the umbrella because it's a lot. ADHD, OCD, autism. There's a lot. Yeah. If a therapist, a licensed doctor says that- Well, don't think OCD is a neurodivergent. Yep. OCD is a neurodivergent. Yep.
00:32:49
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I didn't know that. OCD is a neurodivergent. If somebody licensed says you are, cool. Stop. Stop listening to these people on social media. That's included. Stop listening to our people on social media.
00:33:01
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but we're not Don't stop listening to us. But don't take our word. Don't take what we give you, even though his research, as as gospel as you have it. No, I want to put the idea in your head.
00:33:13
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And then you're like, well, maybe, but I should talk to somebody. License so they can diagnose me. And here's the thing, it's not it's a pattern of behavior. It's not, all of this is a pattern of behavior over a long period of time.
00:33:31
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Long period of time by which I mean your whole life. I was born with ADHD. and was born with adh d I've had it my entire life. I've had issues with attention and all of this my entire life. It is a long pattern of behavior. It's not like, oh, that happens to me sometimes.
00:33:49
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Oh, yeah, you know, i lose my keys a lot. Like, it's not something that happens to you every once in a while. And also... If you're not being treated for neurodivergence, you'll notice like you have issues at school, at work, in your relationships, consistent issues with with productivity, organization, time management,
00:34:16
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object permanence, like you have these consistent issues. You've tried, you know, everybody's, oh, you just try these time management techniques. Those are for neurotypical people.
00:34:27
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A lot of those techniques are for neurotypical people. and And people know, people who are neurodivergent know that you could try to start something, like say, I'm going to make sure that I put this in my calendar and check my calendar every day. And you'll do it for a couple days.
00:34:44
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But then that novelty will wear off and it's again, now it's out of sight, out of mind and you fall off the wagon. Like it's, it is a consistent issues and difficulties and obstacles and things that you've experienced throughout your entire
Stigma and Embracing Neurodiversity
00:35:02
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life.
00:35:02
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Not recently, not, you know, as it's a result of burnout or something like that. So a lot of times people will talk about, know,
00:35:13
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some of the symptoms of their neurodiversity and how they deal with it. And people will watch it and they'll say, okay, that kind of sounds like me. I don't know. That's kind of like, okay, but you know, like once I started looking, once I was diagnosed and and then that actually came, I didn't ask for the diagnosis.
00:35:35
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I was just talking about some of my difficulties at work. ah with my therapist and she started asking more about my childhood and how did I do in school and with relationships and things and then asked if I've ever been tested for ADHD.
00:35:50
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Now, a prior therapist had told me that I had ADHD, but I thought that that therapist was a quack and I never... I never followed up on it, but now that it was being brought to my attention again. And I started to look into the literature about it. And I realized this pattern of behavior throughout my entire life.
00:36:14
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And, you know, I did, I had a clinical diagnostic assessment that you can go to a specialist and have an assessment and it will tell you you you're neurodiverse, if you have ADHD, if you have autism, if you have ADHD, which is a mix of autism and ADHD, you could be dyslexic, you could be as ah as little many things, right?
00:36:38
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But you got to get get into so and get a real clinical diagnosis for it. And it has to be a long pattern of behavior throughout your life. And not just you.
00:36:51
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If you're a parent, don't not Get your t kids tested because you don't want them to have some stigma attached to them. Right. Because that's doing more harm to them than you helping them.
00:37:06
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Yeah, it's setting them back. yes It's setting them back and it affects their self-esteem and sense of self-worth. Like for a long time, I thought I was lazy. I used to, people used to tell me, you got the attention of a gnat.
00:37:23
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Like, you know, like that. I remember exactly who used to say that. Yes. You know, whenever I was given a task to do, our mom would call telling me take the chicken out the freezer. It never happened.
00:37:35
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Never. It never something shiny would catch my attention. would be it never happened. And there were, you know, there were just the the difficulties I had in school. I mean. I was very lucky that I picked things up quickly because I had the damnedest time trying to sit and study because I couldn't sit still. i couldn't concentrate. I would eat read the same word, the same sentence over and over again.
00:38:00
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And so it's it's a like I said, it's an entire pattern of behavior throughout your life. And to not acknowledge it. especially when you see it in your children or loved ones or something like that and not doing anything about it is just going, they're just gonna misinterpret it as some something lacking on their part.
00:38:25
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And yeah, a lot of my issues with anxiety stem from being neurodivergent. The early, you know, when I was younger, the issues with my self-esteem and self-worth stemmed from being neurodivergent.
00:38:40
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So yeah, when you see it, and i honestly, look, some people are neurotypical and some people are neurodivergent because you know why? Because humans are different.
00:38:51
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We're all different and we never nobody and not everybody works the same way. Not everybody thinks the same way. There's no wrong way to think. There's no wrong way to be.
00:39:04
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And it's oh it's the more people talk about the things that they go through, the less stigma that there'll be. So that's why I don't have a problem.
00:39:16
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but i have I had a sign on my desk that said neurodivergent. There's no wrong way to think. Like I let people know. I am neurodivergent. Sometimes I need more explanation of things. Sometimes is I have to take copious notes. I have to put stickies everywhere. I have to do this. Like I have to work a little differently.
00:39:41
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Nothing wrong with it. I just need you to know I work a little differently. Yeah. Yeah. So that's that's one of the reasons why I wanted to do that. Another another thing that that I think is important to let people know is that just because there are some things that affects neodivergent people more than non-neodivergent people,
00:40:07
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it everybody experiences
Earworms, Self-Diagnosis, and Misinformation
00:40:09
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it. Let me give you prime example. Earworms. Yes. Now, ladies and gentlemen, if you don't know what an earworm is, You've definitely experienced it.
00:40:18
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You ever had part of a song stuck in your head all day long? A jingle, a television line, or quote, something that's been stuck in your head all day long and you can't get it out? That's an earworm. It's not ah a literal worm.
00:40:36
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It's... right It's something, phrase, music, what have you, that's stuck in your head and repeated all day. 90% of the individuals in the world experience that. It is a common thing. Now, yes when you're neurodivergent,
00:40:52
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you're affected it a little bit differently. Some studies reports say neurodivergent individuals, including those with ADHD, may experience earworms more intensely or find them more intrusive or distressing, perhaps due to differences in attention regulation, working memory,
00:41:11
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and psychological flexibility. However, such links are not exclusive to ADHD and often overlap with traits found in OCD or autism.
00:41:23
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So just because you have a little bit of OP, that doesn't mean you have ADHD. Just because you experience earworms.
00:41:36
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Doesn't mean you're autistic. Doesn't mean you're autistic. Yeah. Right? i'm a ne Just like my sister said, when you experience these things over the course of your life.
00:41:47
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Yeah. Then talk to a therapist, get tested. Yeah, you don't you don't catch ADHD, right? Like you're born with it. Like it's it's that you're born neurodiverse. It is just the way your brain is wired. So it's going to be things you experience in the entirety of your life.
00:42:07
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And I want to make this real. I can't stress this enough. Misinformation about ADHD symptoms, including claims about earworms, because that's that's one of the things that was like, everybody got an earworm.
00:42:19
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It affects neurodivergent people differently. yeah But often these claims are spread through social media, but medical experts emphasize that self-diagnosis based on earworms or any of these things is is inaccurate and misleading.
00:42:38
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Stop self-diagnosing yourself. Yeah. And stop throwing around stuff so flippantly. I'm getting really sick of people throwing around, yeah, I'm a little autistic. Like, have you been tested?
00:42:52
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Like, have has a therapist said this to you? No, well, it's all a spectrum. Not everybody's on a spectrum. No, it's a spectrum. Everybody's on it. ah Well. Yeah. that I mean, but but the spectrum goes from neurotypical to extreme neurodivergence. Like, that's the spectrum.
00:43:11
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ah but What I mean is not everybody's on the autism spectrum. Yes. Yes. And people want to place themselves on this. was like, what has a therapist said that? No, it's just, you know, and and um and don't throw that around filin flippantly. It's disrespectful to those people who actually suffer from autism or OCD or ADHD. Right.
00:43:34
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just because you having a rough day or a rough week doesn't mean that you include yourself with these group of people that have I don't even want to say it's an affliction because I don't think that's the right word.
00:43:46
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and Differences. Yeah. Yeah.
Acceptance of Cognitive Diversity
00:43:50
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Differences. So stop it, idiots. Yeah. That's including me. It is really annoying. It is really annoying.
00:43:58
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That's including me. Because it's something I ah like actively work on every single moment of the day. like Today I had a bunch of... like tasks I had to do errands so I have my phone in my hand the entire day open to my notes with my to-do list so I don't forget anything and I get to check stuff off that gives me a sense of accomplishment yeah makes it a little bit and novel for me I got most of the stuff checked off on I feel you know I feel good about my day but it's an active thing that I have to do every day like I'm always
00:44:35
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thinking about how I navigate certain ah life, right? Most effectively and how I can get stuff done on time, you know? So it's, it's really annoying when people are like, yeah, know. I think I'm a little ADHD. I could not pay attention to what he was saying at all.
00:44:55
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No, he was just boring. That was all like, that's not, it's not the same thing. It's not the same. Except everybody for who they are. Speaking of that, What happens when an actor is asked to play a role that they're not comfortable with?
Clifton Powell on Acting Choices and Boundaries
00:45:13
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We're going to get into that next.
00:45:20
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All right, Jay, you know who Clifton Powell is, right? Yes, Pinky. Panky. If y'all seen Next Friday and Friday After Next, you know who Panky is.
00:45:37
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Clinton Powell started his acting career in 1980s, early in the 90s, often appearing in support roles. He had his breakout role in Menace to Society, where he snitched dead presidents. Oh, you can't forget about him and dead presidents when he smacked my man down them stairs.
00:45:55
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Ha ha ha! He was also in Ray when he was Ray Charles' road manager. He's appeared in numerous television shows like Black Lightning, Jamie Foxx Show, The Parkers, Saints and Sinners. He even was Big Smoke in San Andreas.
00:46:14
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ah yeah he's got it oh yeah yeah He's got a legendary acting career. He was recently being interviewed by the Art of Dialogue show. Show, podcasts, more of a show than a podcast, but they'll put it out in podcast form. And he said something that I thought was interesting. And I'm just going to summarize a part of the interview.
00:46:36
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He spoke candidly about his personal and professional boundaries as an actor. He explained that while he respects the craft and other actors' choices, he will not take roles that force him into situations that make him deeply uncomfortable, particularly those involving same-sex intimacy or extreme violence against women.
00:46:55
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He stressed that it's not rooted in any type of homophobia, but it's his own personal comfort level and sense of identity. Now, Jay, when we were talking about this, I said, you know, you're going to be interested in my take.
00:47:09
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And I'm going get to my take. But you saw the video. What did you think about what he said? yeah I didn't see anything wrong with it. it' You know, it's you can be an ally and supportive of a community and not be a part of that community. And like, i if if he has an issue with certain kinds of intimacy or with violence or things like that, okay, that's his personal choice. Yeah.
00:47:41
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He doesn't have to do it. You know, you don't you don't have to do ah a film. Like, it's not, nobody's holding a gun to this man's head and telling him he has to do, you yeah he has a right to say, I'm not comfortable with the, you know, the content of the film or of this role or things like that. I've seen a lot of films where I'm like, I wish they didn't make that.
00:48:06
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You know, like. They're all going to be. yeah all on to be Pretty much. And then I've seen, you know, I've seen people act in roles that are completely opposite of who they are as a person. I think Jamie Foxx had a really interesting story about how Leonardo DiCaprio wrestled with his role in Django.
00:48:28
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and who he had to be in that film. So, you know, some people decide to take the roles on and try to give life to these characters as best they can. And some people are not in a position, you know, whether it's like emotionally or physically or whatever, to to give life to these characters. It's just not...
00:48:54
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It's not something that they're... Maybe he's capable of it, but he doesn't want to. And that's okay. Like, I don't care. I completely agree with you. I was looking at this and was like, yo, if you're not comfortable, you're not comfortable. I know if I was an actor, um I would not feel comfortable kissing another man.
00:49:13
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Doesn't mean I'm homophobic. I'm not. I would not feel comfortable kissing another man. Guess what? Wouldn't feel comfortable kissing a lot of things. Yeah. You know? So I agree with the fact that it's okay for him not to feel comfortable. I don't agree with the fact where he says he's not homophobic.
00:49:30
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Because one of the statements that he made, he said, i you know, they wanted me to play a gay gangster and I've never known any gay gangsters. And I'm like, no, no, there have absolutely been gay. Plenty of gay gangsters. And they bring up Wayne Perry, who's right here in the D.C. area, used to run with Alpo, was Alpo's hitman. Wayne Perry is a, he's Omar, almost yes almost. He's almost Omar from The Wire. Like, he was absolutely bisexual. He was also gay. Yeah.
00:50:00
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I mean, if you're bisexual, you're gay. So you could be a gay gangster. So some of this stuff, and equating two men kissing each other with violence towards women is not the same thing. Yeah, I didn't love that.
00:50:15
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I didn't love that. But not everybody has the... Not everybody can articulate what they feel when they're placed in an uncomfortable situation.
00:50:26
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I'll give you an example. I wanted to give Snoop Dogg grace for his recent comments that he had on a podcast about the Lightyear movie. He said he was taking his grandson to the Lightyear movie. Did you hear about this?
00:50:41
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Yes. Okay. Now, did you actually see the clip or did you hear did you read the words from the clip? I heard about it. I didn't see the clip or read a transcript. So when you hear about what Snoop says, Snoop was like, yo, I didn't come here for this.
00:50:59
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You know, I didn't come here to see two women kissing having to have they explain to my grandson. When you read them, you're like, oh, Snoop, that's... That's the wrong position to take. When you actually see the clip, he's cut it it's not he's not talking about that. He's talking about how his grandson wouldn't let it go in the movie theater. He's telling him to shush because he's being loud in the movie theater. and you know how little kids get a bug up their butt and they just like, well, no, I want to know. I want to know. And he's like, I'm not trying to have this conversation right now here in this moment.
00:51:28
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That's how it actually came off the clip. However, I gave him grace on that because I was like, yeah, that's a tough situation to be in with your grandson to have that conversation in a public setting when you're supposed to be quiet and watching a movie because you're in a public movie theater.
00:51:45
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It's not that hard. It's that the these two characters are in love. one sentence. It's Snoop Dogg. I don't know if he can say that right off the top of his head. I want to give him grace in not being able to say,
00:52:01
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and address it right then and there. Because you're in a movie theater. Okay. Sure. Okay. then he Then he did his apology because he got attacked by LGBTQ plus community because most people didn't see the clip. And if you see the clip,
00:52:16
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it It's not him being bothered by two women in the movie. It's him being bothered that he has to quiet his grandson down in the movie theater and have this type of conversation.
00:52:29
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But when he apologizes, then he says, why are we putting this in the movies? kids should just be able to go to cartoon. And I was like, no, you was right on the first clip.
00:52:39
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All you had to do was tell people, listen to that clip. Then when you tried to apologize and explain, you made it worse. Some people put in certain situations, don't know how to respond properly. So I want to give Clinton Powell a little bit of grace that he compared two men kissing to extreme violence to women.
00:52:57
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i think I think he was just trying to say, there's a lot of roles that I want to list of things that I won't do. But those yeah two correlations just doesn't work. I will say that just kind of piggybacking off off of your thoughts about homophobia.
00:53:14
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So
Internalized Homophobia and Personal Comfort
00:53:16
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the the absence of you like doing anything or feeling anything about people being gay does not mean that you're not homophobic.
00:53:29
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me It means that in just in your everyday life, you might not encounter many people who are LGBTQ plus. So you don't think about it.
00:53:43
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Right. It's an out of sight, out of mind type thing. Or you, there aren't a whole lot of protests around you. So you don't have to. Object permanence. Yeah. six yeah yeah Yes, LP. But like, so it's not, there's not like a daily impact on your life. So you don't ever have to really interrogate your feelings about homosexuality.
00:54:11
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So you just assume that you are not homophobic because you never think about it. But if you actually sat down and think about it, You are, because the fact of the matter is- You haven't been put to the test to see what you- Right. Are cool with it, what you're not.
00:54:30
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The fact of the matter is, there's nothing wrong with kissing a person. Like, it you kiss your parents, you kiss your relatives, kiss your friends.
00:54:43
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So to say I'm uncomfortable with kissing a man, that's not really true, right? Like, maybe romantically, maybe like a romantically and something like that. Okay, but like, the question then is is why?
00:55:00
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What about intimacy with somebody with the same sex as you bothers you? Why is that a boundary for you?
00:55:11
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Why is that something that makes you uncomfortable crossing?
00:55:18
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Why is simple human interaction a boundary for you? Hmm. That's the thing that I would interrogate.
00:55:29
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Not, you know, you don't have to take a role. You don't have to do it. But if you are deeply uncomfortable with just intimacy between two people, it doesn't say anything about your own sexuality. You're playing a role. You're not playing yourself.
00:55:50
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It's not Clifton Powell as Clifton Powell. a gay man. Like, that's not what it is. That would a good movie. I actually would watch that. Right.
00:56:02
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Clinton Powell Clinton Powell's a gay man. ben right That'd be pretty good. I could see why you wouldn't want to do a role that features violence against women, right? Because violence against women is wrong.
00:56:14
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But same-sex intimacy is not wrong. So I don't, and so I think what he should do instead of telling everybody about this when no one asked, I'm sorry, you, you said climate and honestly, no one asked, but since you want to tell us all of this, I, what I would say back to you is why does
00:56:46
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homosexuality
00:56:49
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have an impact on your own personal comfort and your sense of identity. you you You need to, because I- Are you saying that people are not allowed to feel uncomfortable about certain things?
00:57:06
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No, that's not what I'm saying. and no and So I'm asking the question- You can absolutely feel uncomfortable, you but the next step to that is to ask yourself why what i So why am I uncomfortable watching or having to see two ugly people make out?
00:57:25
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Because it's just uncomfortable to me. You ugly.
00:57:31
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Sure. It's a serious thing. It makes me uncomfortable. Like if I see two attractive people making out, oh, they're love. If see two ugly people, I'm like, oh, they're love. Can they take that somewhere else?
00:57:44
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I mean, I guess I'm always like taking somewhere else. Well, everybody wants to what they find aesthetically pleasing. Nobody wants to see, like, if you don't like horror movies, ah't you don't like gore and things like that, then don't watch gory movies, right? Like, you don't find the blood and the viscera and all of that stuff pleasing to look at or interesting or exciting or whatever to look at.
00:58:11
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Look at it. Don't watch it. Like, you don't have to. There's no reason why... you can't You can be uncomfortable. Yeah, you can just read Wikipedia for the scary movies. That's how I know about all the songs. I'm not watching them. I read about Right.
00:58:25
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So i don't it's my question is not, my my criticism is not that he's uncomfortable. is It's just for him to push a little further and ask why.
00:58:39
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And the only reason why I would encourage him to do so is because he is the one that professed that he is not homophobic. e So if you're not homophobic, if you so as you say, you don't have a problem with with gay people, trans people, and novi you're not bigoted.
00:58:57
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If you're saying you're not bigoted, then what about same-sex intimacy makes you uncomfortable? And if you are an ally to the community, like you say you are, if he hadn't said that part, be like, okay, he's uncomfortable, okay, whatever.
00:59:14
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Nobody, nobody really cares. I mean, I'm sure somebody out there cares, but nobody, i don't care. yeah But like, well, mean, I cared just because I wanted to bring it up and talk about it because I thought this was an interesting conversation.
00:59:25
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Right. But like kissing ah somebody of the same sex for a role says nothing about your personal
00:59:42
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sexuality. Yeah, I would have rolled with him if he said something, if he said, well, maybe because I identify with this, if he had said, look, I don't want to play a role where I'm kissing men, where I'm intimate with ah um
01:00:00
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overweight people or ugly people or Something like that. Like if it was a multitude of these are the parameters of which I don't want to express intimate.
01:00:14
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If he said, I don't want to do intimate scenes because I love my wife. Right. I've been cool with that, but he didn't say that. He said, men, and then don't want to take no roles while I'm touching and hitting on women. I'm like, that's a... Anymore.
01:00:31
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it Anymore. Hey, Clinton Powell, Clinton Powell, I'm not knocking you. I enjoy your work. I mean, you was deadly on the TV show Rock. You know, but you had to change your heart after you got shot and you saved that kid.
01:00:46
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I'm just saying, I'm finding a little difficult to to follow your logic here. i know yeah caught you on the spot. But maybe you want to think out more, like my sister says, yeah about, you know, what's going on in your head? Why you absolutely opposed to this? It seems like not opposed to anything else romantically on screen. Just specifically this. To the point that you call it a boundary. yeah First of all, that's not what boundaries are. Not wanting to do something.
01:01:18
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but and not wanting to do something can be a boundary. No, it boundaries in this, in that context. Okay, in that context, yes. And when we talk about it, a boundary in the psychological context, it is, it is,
01:01:32
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the line in which if another person crosses it, there will be a consequence for that person for that action. Like that's what a boundary is. You set a boundary in that way. Like there's no consequence to anyone for him not taking a role. So it's not really a boundary. You just don't want to do it. Yeah, he just don't want to do it. That's all. You don't want to do it.
01:01:52
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you've And you have to, i think if you're going to say, I'm not homophobic, If you're going to say that, but in the same breath say, I'm uncomfortable with same sex intimacy.
01:02:09
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Those two ideas, I don't know that they really,
01:02:15
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i don't know that they really can coexist. Yeah. Yeah. All right.
Episode Reflections and Listener Engagement
01:02:21
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Ladies and gentlemen, this was a heavy episode. I, you know, tried to throw in a couple more jokes, but you know every now and then I want to teach you. I knew as I was preparing the show, we hadn't done this in a little while. We took a little break.
01:02:32
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And so I knew this was going to be heavy. I just didn't realize was going to be so heavy, but it is what it is. Y'all still listened up to this point. Jay, what do you got tell people out there?
01:02:45
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Uh, I feel like I said enough. Y'all got it. Go rewind back. Listen to some of the little sound bites. I feel like there was something in there somewhere. is you know, you listen to the episode. You know what I said.
01:02:57
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Look, I said what said. I said what I said. I stand by it. On that note, ladies and gentlemen, I want to thank you for listening. I want to thank you for watching. And until next time, as always, I'll holla.
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