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Week 8 Fantasy Loves ❤️ & Hates 💔: Tyreek, Cousins, Cedric Tillman, Dobbins & more!
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In this action-packed episode of Bush League Huddle Fantasy Football, we break down the hottest Week 8 matchups and key players you can't afford to miss!
- Nacc is all-in on Jaylen Waddle and Tyreek Hill bouncing back big against the Cardinals with Tua's return. Plus, will Kirk Cousins carve up the Bucs like he did last time?
- Fab says to fire up Aaron Jones on TNF and expect J.K. Dobbins to deliver in a juicy matchup vs. the Saints.
- Rog loves Rico Dowdle as a sneaky play against a vulnerable 49ers D and calls for a breakout from Cedric Tillman against the Ravens.
We also hit you with the players to fade, including Drake Maye, Malik Nabers, and Tony Pollard. Don't miss out on our bold predictions and waiver wire tips for Week 8! Tune in now!
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Introduction to Bush League Huddle
00:00:10
rogeremeka
Welcome to the Bush League Huddle Fantasy Football Podcast. I'm Raj, and I'm joined by two guys who never play soft, my co-hosts and good buddies, Fab and Nack.
Week 7 Recap & Game Previews
00:00:19
Nacc
solid wild
00:00:21
rogeremeka
Week seven is already officially in the books, crazy, like we're already gonna be at the midway point. ah It was just capped off with another double header between the Chargers and Cardinals and the Ravens and Bucks, which we'll recap shortly. Afterwards, ladies and gentlemen, it's time to move on to week eight with our very popular love-hate segment, where we'll outline the matchups we love and the matchups we think you should avoid.
00:00:45
rogeremeka
If you missed our week seven Sunday recap, where we broke down the big winners and losers of the Sunday slate, be sure to check it out. We cover a ton of players and their outlook for the rest of the season. And as usual, before we get into it, please, just a quick mind reminder, don't forget to rate, follow, and subscribe. You could find us on Apple, Spotify, YouTube, Instagram, TikTok, and to and Twitter. Stay locked into those channels. As usual, we'll have a ton of content and advice to take you through to week eight.
00:01:12
rogeremeka
No time to waste. Let's get right into it.
Monday Night Game Quality Debate
00:01:14
rogeremeka
Nack, what was your key takeaway from the Monday nighter? Monday nighters. Excuse me.
00:01:19
Nacc
Yeah. And it's, it's weird. Hey, when there's two Monday nights, has there has there ever been a Monday night so far this year where both games were good? And like one is always a stinker.
00:01:30
Fabio
Yep.
00:01:30
Nacc
Um, and that's where, that's where I'll go with my biggest takeaway.
00:01:31
rogeremeka
Yeah, you're you're right.
00:01:32
Fabio
Yep.
00:01:35
Nacc
Um, the Cardinals and Chargers, uh, are really not good teams, um, real life and fantasy life. Um, we have Justin Herbert who's, who's yet to hit 15 points a game this season, which is.
00:01:49
Nacc
very very disappointing from a fantasy aspect. um I mean it was still it was kind of like we kind of knew there were going to be a running team and and and less passing but I thought there would be still more touchdowns and involved and i'd still I thought he was still the hit consistent you know 18 to 20 point figures and to not hit 15 is pretty disappointing.
00:02:11
Nacc
You have Dobbins, Roger's league winner, who's now under 10 fantasy points in three of the last four games. So that was, I think, probably the guy so far that people spent the most fab on and probably regretting at this point.
Underperforming Players Analysis
00:02:29
Nacc
And then you have Josh Palmer, Quinton Johnson, McConkie, very, very ah underwhelming. I think McConkie has under 10 fantasy points and three at four of the last five, excuse me. Palmer has 13 catches for 171 yards all season. And then Quinton Johnson since week two, 20 total fantasy points. So it's just been a pretty dumpster fire fantasy wise for for the Chargers and um not for nothing.
00:02:55
Nacc
And it hasn't been smooth sailings for the Cardinals either. Kyler Murray very inconsistent and and using his legs mostly to to kind of salvage and and save his fantasy days.
00:03:09
Nacc
If it wasn't for that long run he had yesterday, he would have had a really, really poor showing once again.
00:03:14
Fabio
Yep.
00:03:15
Nacc
um Marvin Harrison Jr. 57 yards in his last three games. That's 10 fantasy points total. ah Yes, he was hurt ah the game before, but his last three games, 57 total yards.
00:03:29
Fabio
This pisses me off so much, so much, so much.
00:03:29
Nacc
So I think Raj...
00:03:31
rogeremeka
that do what You did like a count you did like a count Dracula face I Have some thought I'll let you finish neck I'll have some thoughts on a few things but yeah, yeah
00:03:34
Nacc
Yeah, and I think, you know, Raj, you alluded to it, like, oh, was...
00:03:37
Fabio
So upset.
00:03:39
Nacc
Is Brian Thomas the better player um between the two? I think you mentioned it a few pods ago and like Brian Thomas has been way more impressive so far.
00:03:48
Fabio
Yeah.
00:03:51
Nacc
Okay.
Cardinals' Inconsistency Issues
00:03:52
Nacc
Um, also no secondary options in the passing game. Like it's been really nothing. I thought it was going to be more like Wilson and, and dorch and, and like McBride has been okay.
00:03:59
rogeremeka
Yeah. Yep. Yep.
00:04:05
Nacc
But I mean, there's in wide receiver wise, like I don't know why there. They're not being targeted. It's just, there's really nothing going on. The only real bright spot is James Connor, who's been pretty, ah pretty consistent through weeks evidence and still not injured at this point in time, which is also good news for them.
00:04:16
Fabio
Consistent. Yeah.
00:04:23
Nacc
But ah yeah, that's my, that's those are my big takeaways, both, both really real life and fantasy life, just not great teams.
00:04:33
rogeremeka
Fab, go ahead. You want to add something to Mervyn Harrison Jr.?
00:04:34
Fabio
i just i'm i'm I'm so frustrated with the usage of Marvin Harrison Jr.
00:04:38
Nacc
Perfect word.
00:04:40
Fabio
like every It's almost every other week you see a video on Twitter where he's like he does a double cut and he runs up the seam and he's completely open and he doesn't get no targets towards him.
00:04:50
Nacc
Yeah.
00:04:52
Fabio
He's supposed to be a specimen of a Y
Critique on Justin Herbert's Performance
00:04:54
Fabio
receiver, which he is. And Kyler Murray is just not throwing to him and I do not understand why. it It's complete. It boggles my mind. It's frustrating. I don't get a man free. Marvin Harrison Jr. Like, I don't know. I really have, I have no words. I really have no words.
00:05:10
rogeremeka
So I agree with everything Max said from a fantasy perspective. I think Herbert played really well. I watched more so of that game than the Bucks game. I thought he played quite well.
00:05:21
rogeremeka
I think the issue is there's just not enough juice at the wider receiver position. And he threw like, I think it was 39 times, was it?
00:05:27
Nacc
Yeah, that exactly.
00:05:27
rogeremeka
39 times.
00:05:29
Nacc
39 times.
00:05:29
Fabio
349 yards passing.
00:05:29
rogeremeka
But but like every it was it was literally death by a thousand cuts, the type of offense they ran, and they just don't have enough. like Will this lead? Is there is there like tight end? Are you kidding me?
00:05:44
Nacc
kicked I five field goals, man.
00:05:44
rogeremeka
and Yeah, they kicked five field goals and it's all like three yard routes like test the team downfield This is not like the Cardinals are not that good of a defense test them downfield and I think the Marvin Harrison thing um Yeah, I agree like Murray's not finding him but he doesn't look explosive and while I was listening to another podcast on the way home from work it got me to thinking You guys remember why he didn't he didn't want to run the 40?
00:05:45
Fabio
yeah
00:06:12
rogeremeka
at the combine and he doesn't look crazy explosive compared to neighbors and Brian Thomas. And that's what a lot of fantasy analysts are saying is that Harrison maybe has that nicer floor, but he's not going to be that extremely explosive player. And also he's just, he's dropped, he dropped, he dropped some balls too yesterday. So I haven't been very impressed with him. Neither have I been with Murray. Um, and and that's, that's personally why I was like, I got to wait and see before I dropped this guy, like in the first round.
00:06:41
Fabio
Well, that was a Chris Sims, um, post that he had where he, he tiered the Y received the rookie Y receivers.
00:06:44
rogeremeka
Yes, great.
00:06:49
Fabio
And he had neighbors and, and, and Thomas Jr. in the first tier and Marvin Harrison in the second tier and a doozy in the third, and he was getting roasted online for it.
Rookie Wide Receivers Tier Debate
00:06:59
Fabio
He was getting roasted.
00:07:00
Fabio
And now you look back seven weeks later and clearly, you know,
00:07:00
rogeremeka
Yeah.
00:07:03
Nacc
That's the, uh, the common name misconception, like the big name, you hear the big name and it's like, Oh, well, why do you have them in the second tier?
00:07:07
rogeremeka
Exactly, yeah. Exactly.
00:07:10
Nacc
Well, I don't know. Look at his, look at his stats. He doesn't belong there, right? You know, maybe one day he will, but now right now he doesn't.
00:07:13
Fabio
Well, not right now.
00:07:15
rogeremeka
Yeah.
00:07:15
Fabio
Yeah, it's in one day.
00:07:15
Nacc
like People get roast, people get ticked off and and triggered so easily with these, with these things. And it's just like, look, look at the stats, man.
00:07:24
rogeremeka
Yep.
00:07:25
Nacc
Like just, just look at them.
00:07:27
rogeremeka
Yep. Fab, I think it was a rough ah Monday night for you with the Chris Godwin news.
Chris Godwin's Injury Impact
00:07:35
rogeremeka
um give us your you Give us your eulogy on Chris Godwin.
00:07:35
Nacc
Mm hmm.
00:07:36
Fabio
Yeah. So.
00:07:38
rogeremeka
and
00:07:39
Fabio
I gotta, I gotta to get set for this one.
00:07:39
Nacc
And that I couldn't do too hard last night.
00:07:41
Fabio
I gotta, I gotta it get set for this one. Knack. I was, I swear to God, man. I saw the injury and I'm like this bleep bleep mother bleep like it.
00:07:48
Nacc
Oh, man.
00:07:49
rogeremeka
this hurt but This hurt you because like you were really hot and you were talking him up. like b You don't say.
00:07:54
Fabio
So, so myself.
00:07:55
Nacc
But he has the stack to that hurts both.
00:07:57
Fabio
Okay. Hold on a second. Just calm down for a second. Damn it. So myself, just like other fantasy, fantasy managers, I get invested in my players and.
00:08:01
Nacc
You already won.
00:08:08
Fabio
And he seriously, and, and Chris Godwin, like Chris Godwin, like I was obviously invested in him from a, from a personal standpoint, because the guy had that big injury that he came back from. He's really playing in an offense that tailors perfectly to his skillset. And he saw him really performing in that offense. And then Baker Mayfield is doing well. So like, I'm not going to lie to you guys. Like I didn't target Baker Mayfield and Chris Godwin. I drafted them. Like I drafted him much later within my draft and they obviously they're going off and.
00:08:36
Fabio
And you know, it was great for me from a, from a fancy perspective. So that injury last night, it gutted me. I was, and obviously I was upset for my team, but like you feel, you feel so bad for Chris Godwin.
00:08:49
Fabio
Like you just feel so horrible for.
00:08:50
Nacc
Yeah, contract year, man.
00:08:51
Fabio
her Yeah, man. He was on a career year after having the bad ACL injury from a year ago.
00:08:57
Nacc
Yeah.
00:08:58
Fabio
And and it's just like, it it sucks. you know like it was it It sucks so bad. And i just ah ah quite honestly, I'm also concerned from ah from a larger perspective for the Bucks offense and even Baker Mayfield's Massey value for the rest of the season.
00:09:12
Fabio
Because also mike evans re injured his hammy he's gonna miss several weeks and i heard potentially he might come back week eleven after the by you know so obviously the next few weeks is gonna be a real test for for baker despite the fact that he's been cooking for the last little while he's gonna be playing a substantial amount of games without obviously without
00:09:16
Nacc
Yeah.
00:09:31
Fabio
without Chris Godwin, but even with Mike Evans too. and So ah you kind of have to question what his value is going to be for the rest of the season. I do just want to go over quickly some some not some stats that I saw for Chris Godwin. So this is the second major career standing injury that he's dealt with having torn his ACL and MCL in 2021. and twenty twenty one he finally felt like he was back to his old self this summer and a lot of teammates and coaches took notice too. But one thing that I do give this a guy credit for The video of him on the cart you can see him saying to the trainer.
00:10:02
Fabio
All right back to work, huh? Like he's I'm rooting for the guy straight up, you know, like Well that that's another thing too because he might that this might be his last game as a Tampa Bay Buccaneers because I believe this was the last year in this contract for not mistaken So we're
00:10:06
rogeremeka
Yeah.
00:10:07
Nacc
there's There's rumors that he may not play again on how bad that was.
00:10:17
Nacc
Yeah. Oh, no, no. That was definitely his last game as a buck. Because he see he's going to miss potentially this the first few weeks of the next year too.
00:10:23
Fabio
Well, assuming that he doesn't get signed after, after this as a buccaneer, obviously with a much deeper discount, but yeah.
00:10:29
rogeremeka
so So, so Fab, how is, so that was a great eulogy on, uh, on Chris God knows awesome.
00:10:34
Fabio
Yeah.
00:10:37
rogeremeka
Uh, moving forward for your team. you So you mentioned you have the stack, you have Baker and Godwin.
Strategies for Replacing Injured Players
00:10:42
Fabio
ye
00:10:42
rogeremeka
What's the next step? Like, who do you target? Uh, we're recording this now, Tuesday nights, by the time we released it fab and we were, we would have already been out, but what's your strategy on kind of supplanting that production?
00:10:56
Fabio
Well, I think, I think we're shot. Why it's going to get more receiving yard work. And you already saw that last night too. He did go six for 71 and two touchdowns, uh, Jalen McMillan, uh, third round pick out of Washington. So Washington Huskies played with Penix or Dunsey and Jalen Pollock, Jalen Polk, excuse me. Uh, his stats were pretty good.
00:11:16
Fabio
in college. ah He did get eight targets last night. Just to read off quickly the 2023 stats, he played 11 games. He started in seven of them. He won 45 for 5.59 and five touchdowns. ah But he did miss time with with the knee injury as well. And it was a high power offense. And another interesting stat is that Jayla McMillan had 93 unutilized air yards. So that's based off of the The, the ball's being thrown in his direction, the amount of yards they would have represented in the air had they had been caught, which is, I think, uh, fourth highest on the week or something like that.
00:11:51
Fabio
And that's a shout out to fantasy life's utilization report. Uh, so Jalen McMillan just saying, man, it's, it is a important statistic
00:11:55
Nacc
kind of So kind of like the same thing if my aunt, that ball should be my uncle type deal.
Humor in Fantasy Football Stats
00:12:02
rogeremeka
Bro.
00:12:05
Fabio
and it's, it's, it's, it's good.
00:12:06
rogeremeka
My face was doing the Zach Galifianakis meme.
00:12:07
Nacc
I was just like, yeah, I was just like, the what ifs that.
00:12:08
rogeremeka
He does the calculation. like And I love i love data and stats. good like Nice, nice, nice stuff. That's a good one.
00:12:16
Fabio
Hey, if you're not getting targets, you're not going to get receptions, right? What do Wayne Gretzky say? Miss 100% of the shots you don't take. Just saying it's important to note.
00:12:22
rogeremeka
Michael Jordan said that.
00:12:23
Nacc
I guess.
00:12:23
rogeremeka
Michael Jordan said that.
00:12:24
Fabio
But, uh, Jaylen McMillan is a guy that i probably target off of waivers. Trey Palmer is interesting. Kate Auden actually for a tight end stream. I think he's going to get a bump in targets too. He got 10 last night. I think from a, from a tight end perspective, he's going to be someone of of note, but I would be looking at Jaylen McMillan.
00:12:39
Fabio
Um, I would be spending a little bit of fab on him, probably somewhere between about like 10%, maybe as high as 15, depending on how needy I am a wide receiver, uh, not more than that though.
00:12:41
rogeremeka
How much?
00:12:49
rogeremeka
Well, they don't have no, yeah.
00:12:49
Nacc
What about your boy, Shepard? Your boy, Shepard.
00:12:51
Fabio
Shepherd though, the shepherd's more, of I don't know, man. Like that's the thing. like i I think his better, that his best days are behind him. Quite frankly. I know he has a really good rapport with, uh, with Baker, uh, coming from Ohio state.
00:13:03
Fabio
Uh, but apart from, sorry, Oklahoma, Oklahoma, right?
00:13:05
rogeremeka
Oklahoma, yep.
00:13:07
Fabio
Yeah. Um, but apart from that, I don't necessarily see him getting peppered with targets like he used to when he was with the giants for those, for those formidable years, but ah apart from.
00:13:17
rogeremeka
He actually has had, yeah he's actually, sorry, of fa he's actually a pretty good snap share. 65%, week four, 68%, week five, 75%, week six. He didn't play, he didn't play it down.
00:13:31
rogeremeka
It looks like he got a reception, but it says he had 0% snap share, so.
00:13:35
Nacc
that Is that sleeper?
00:13:37
rogeremeka
This is Roto Baller.
00:13:39
Nacc
It's probably because it's not updated yet, the percentage.
00:13:41
rogeremeka
Good call, good call, good call.
00:13:44
Fabio
Anyways, um, yeah, so long story short, very, very long story short, uh, losing both your top bar receivers, seriously, hampers, bakers, fancy outlook and ceiling for the rest of season. It's a, it's been a rough, rough day for, um, the Bushley huddle podcast.
00:14:01
rogeremeka
Yeah, prayer is up. I have ah Godwin 2 in a league, so I'll have to figure out as well so figure that out as well. So thanks for the advice on that front. Mikey Takeaway, Lamar Jackson, and Derek Henry are really good at football.
Lamar Jackson & Derek Henry's MVP Case
00:14:14
rogeremeka
When I was looking up the stats on Lamar and Derek Henry, honestly, I couldn't stop laughing. like I was literally cackling at how crazy the numbers are.
00:14:23
rogeremeka
Lamar so far this year, 118 QB rating, 15 TDs, that's second in the league, 68% completion percentage, and only two INTs. He's a full yard attempt better than last year at nine yards, and he already has 455 rushing yards on pace for 1,100 yards, like nuts.
00:14:40
Nacc
Yeah. He's putting up video game numbers right now.
00:14:43
Fabio
Like if, if he wins the MVP this year, like I won't be upset based on, I mean, no, I agree.
00:14:46
Nacc
This year, a hundred percent, like he's, he he could be the front runner.
00:14:49
rogeremeka
Okay. Thank you. ah Thank you. Knack. I was going to be lovely.
00:14:51
Nacc
No, no, no. Look, look, look, look, I look, look, I hate the Ravens, but we could all, I think we could all agree.
00:14:52
rogeremeka
I'm like, dude, give him his flowers this year. Like that was I'm going to drive to your house if you don't.
00:14:59
Nacc
Josh Allen deserved that MVP last year.
00:15:02
rogeremeka
Yeah, I would say so.
00:15:02
Nacc
Like he had 50 TDs, like guys, guys, like, yeah.
00:15:06
rogeremeka
Yeah. Yeah. I agree. I would agree.
00:15:07
Nacc
Lamar Jackson didn't put up MVP numbers last year.
00:15:08
Fabio
I agree. I agree.
00:15:10
Nacc
This year, um not and I hate obviously the Ravens as a Steelers fan, but what um I would look stupid and uncredible if I say that he's not a front runner for the MVP, but the numbers this year, 100% show it, like off the chart.
00:15:11
Fabio
I agree.
00:15:22
Fabio
Yeah, they're really jumping off the page.
00:15:23
rogeremeka
Yeah.
00:15:24
Fabio
Yeah.
00:15:25
rogeremeka
According to Optostats, there have been three games in NFL history where QB threw five or more TD passes on fewer than 25 pass attempts while also rushing for 50 yards.
00:15:36
rogeremeka
And Lamar Jackson has all three of them.
00:15:38
Nacc
Yeah, that's nuts.
00:15:39
Fabio
Yeah.
00:15:40
rogeremeka
Crazy, crazy.
00:15:40
Nacc
That's crazy. That's crazy.
00:15:42
rogeremeka
And then when you look when you move along to Derek Henry, you realize the stats are even more ah ridiculous. 873 rushing yards, ATDs, 124 rushing yards per game.
00:15:53
rogeremeka
That's too fewer than his 22,000 rushing yard ah season that he had, I believe, in 2021.
00:16:01
Nacc
Yeah, I'll take the L on that one.
00:16:01
Fabio
Hmm.
00:16:02
Nacc
I think you will too.
00:16:03
rogeremeka
I will 100% too. Yeah. I was like, Oh, he's not gonna pump third downs. Like, so he's on pace for 2,100 yards, 19 TDs. Yesterday again, 15 carries 169 yards, that 81 yard touchdown.
00:16:16
Nacc
And he always breaks a huge one.
00:16:18
Fabio
You know, who's, you know, who's not gonna take the L on that one?
00:16:18
rogeremeka
Yeah.
00:16:20
Fabio
Two fingers pointing at this guy.
00:16:23
Nacc
Yeah. Look, I have, I'm, I have nothing to say, man.
00:16:25
rogeremeka
Like, we're like,
00:16:26
Nacc
Yeah. He's.
00:16:27
Fabio
um i dry I didn't expect this type of production though, but like I did. i
00:16:31
rogeremeka
No, but dumb dumb on me and Knack to be like, Oh, you know what? He was bad. He was bad in Tennessee.
00:16:35
Fabio
You know,
00:16:36
rogeremeka
So like, that's, that's a precursor for him to being bad in Baltimore. Like not bad, but like, I didn't think he was going to be that.
00:16:40
Fabio
the first half last night though, no.
00:16:42
rogeremeka
Like I thought he'd be maybe RB, RB 15, you know?
00:16:43
Nacc
I didn't think he was going to be this explosive. Like, yeah, I did not. I did not see this coming at all.
00:16:47
rogeremeka
Yeah. Um, so yeah, I think overall, like less yesterday's episode, I said golf was is the MVP. I'm throwing that in the garbage right now. Lamar Jackson is.
00:16:58
Nacc
Well, they don't throw it in the garbage like he's still up there, but Lamar definitely is number one.
00:17:02
rogeremeka
if If Lamar keeps this pace, he's on pace for 4,300 passing yards, 35 TDs, I think like five INTs and I mentioned the 1,100 rushing yards.
00:17:04
Fabio
Yeah.
00:17:13
rogeremeka
like And then Derek Henry is offensive player of the year, like bar none. And I really hope this leads to Derek Henry be going into Hall of Fame. Like this season is like the stamp on his career to be a Hall of Famer.
00:17:24
rogeremeka
So those are my two takeaways. Those guys are very good at football.
00:17:27
Nacc
But I wonder if Lamar is going to keep being the the San Jose Sharks of the league and and then crumble in the playoffs.
00:17:32
Fabio
Well, that was actually my next question. Does, let's say Derek Henry has a spectacular year, maybe not what he's on pace for right now, but like he has a, he finishes like, let's say 1,800 yards and like, you know, 15 touchdowns, which is really not that crazy.
00:17:47
Fabio
But they don't win the Superbowl. Is he still Hall of Fame? Or is he in the Hall of Very Good?
00:17:50
rogeremeka
Yeah, of course.
00:17:51
Nacc
The Hall of Fame is not it's not rings.
00:17:52
rogeremeka
All of him has nothing to do with Super Bowl.
00:17:53
Nacc
bro i i
00:17:54
rogeremeka
yeah
00:17:55
Nacc
um like type of person that it's it's stats and this guy like all pros led the league and in in rushing and categories he's going to be up there before his end of his career like he could win zero super bowls and still be in the hall of fame like hello dammarino type deal you know like I don't think
00:18:10
rogeremeka
Yeah.
00:18:11
Fabio
Yep.
00:18:12
rogeremeka
LT, Nadine Tomlinson.
00:18:13
Nacc
That's why when people say Edelman should be in the hall of fame, I look at them and I'm like, for what? Like, because he won Super Bowls with Tom Brady, like, cause he caught balls and he was, he was clutching playoffs.
00:18:20
rogeremeka
Yeah.
00:18:23
Nacc
Like he was never leading in any stack category.
00:18:23
Fabio
I like it.
00:18:25
Nacc
He was never in all pro. Like I'm, I don't know, Henry right now is definitely on pace for a gold jacket.
00:18:31
rogeremeka
Yeah, agreed. Those are takeaways for the Monday night football match-ups.
Exciting Football Schedule Discussion
00:18:38
rogeremeka
I believe the next double header, there's two left, sometime week 15. So we'll move on to love, hate. So thankfully no buys in week eight.
00:18:49
Nacc
Well that's fantasy playoffs. Double headers that's acid Monday.
00:18:51
rogeremeka
Yeah.
00:18:53
Fabio
Wow.
00:18:53
rogeremeka
Double headers. We're gonna have Black Friday, ah Black Friday games. We're gonna have Saturday games.
00:18:57
Nacc
Christmas Day.
00:18:58
rogeremeka
Saturday games is the best. Christmas day games.
00:18:59
Fabio
Yeah, I love Saturday games.
00:19:00
rogeremeka
so Love Saturday games.
00:19:00
Nacc
Steelers Chiefs Steelers Chiefs Christmas Day in Pittsburgh.
00:19:02
rogeremeka
Love Saturday games.
00:19:02
Fabio
Yeah.
00:19:05
rogeremeka
Yeah. Always has to go back to the Steelers.
00:19:06
Fabio
Always.
00:19:07
rogeremeka
Our week, week, week seven, right? and Week seven, i love a hate record. We were, we were, seven and five not bad we were four six and one in week six seven and five in week seven so fab you went three and one you won with baker mayfield as a love and you also won with bow nicks and david mont montgomery as hates yeah it did uh you missed out on pop douglas as a as a love he only had three point four points
00:19:32
Fabio
Cost me everything getting Baker Mayfield winning as a love.
00:19:40
Fabio
He was sick.
00:19:42
Nacc
Okay.
00:19:42
rogeremeka
Doesn't matter.
00:19:42
Fabio
I'll take the L I'll take the L it's fine.
00:19:43
rogeremeka
Yeah. Yeah, it doesn't. you Yeah. Like I wrote, you wrote that. I'm like, and like, like, are you like, it's it would have been a push if maybe he didn't, he didn't, um, he didn't dress, but yeah.
00:19:54
Fabio
If didn't play, yeah, I got it. No, that's all good.
00:19:56
rogeremeka
Like you gave me a push last week. uh nak you were two and two so you won on brock bowers no shit whoops
Unexpected Performances in Week 7
00:20:04
rogeremeka
that was not supposed to swear uh you lost on sam la porta that was a uh that that was a surprise on them yeah yeah no no no what uh nick even mentioned it in our in our in our post or posts but james and yeah
00:20:11
Nacc
Oh man, white flag on that bad boy.
00:20:13
Fabio
Oh, yeah.
00:20:14
Nacc
Laporta's dead.
00:20:18
Nacc
Cut the cord, cut the cord.
00:20:20
Fabio
Well, he might have some resurgence now that Jameson Williams is going to be Williamson is going to be suspended for for two weeks for two days, two games.
00:20:24
Nacc
Khaleef Raymond, man. I believe it's going to be Khaleef Raymond before it's Laporta.
00:20:27
rogeremeka
you're You're joking. Are you serious?
00:20:30
Nacc
Why would I not be serious?
00:20:30
rogeremeka
I mean, we mentioned it yesterday. We didn't mention it yesterday, Klee Freeman, but like, but again, I think that often, go ahead.
00:20:33
Nacc
Why would I not be serious? or just He's just not targeting the tight end. Jamison doesn't have, even when, jee sorry, I don't want me to cut you off, but when Jamison didn't have ah good games, he hasn't been, there's games where he has what, two targets or two catches, whatever.
00:20:47
Nacc
Where's Laporta been then?
00:20:49
rogeremeka
Yeah.
00:20:49
Nacc
Right? Laporta hasn't had four, he hasn't had four targets all season long, right?
00:20:50
Fabio
Yeah, not true.
00:20:55
rogeremeka
it's It's a pure scheme offense. I think they scheme guys like there's no Tamara.
00:20:57
Fabio
Yeah.
00:20:59
Nacc
Yeah. So I don't, I don't, so I don't think even Jamison gone, that it's a foregone conclusion.
00:21:00
rogeremeka
I think he's going to, yeah.
00:21:03
rogeremeka
Yeah. Yeah. So you won on Brock Bowers and you you won on Pat Friarmouth as a hate with his seven points. And I'm going to give you a loss on your hate for Tucker Kraft because he was the Titan 11.
00:21:04
Nacc
That's Laporta eats.
00:21:19
Nacc
Sure.
00:21:20
rogeremeka
But I saw, you like, I think it was a valiant effort on that front.
00:21:24
Nacc
Give me half, half point, half point.
00:21:24
rogeremeka
I was also two and two.
00:21:29
Nacc
So you can move on.
00:21:30
rogeremeka
we got yeah i was also two into I won on Drake May and James Cook. Drake May has my love, James Cook has my hate, and I lost on Cortland Sutton as my love, zero targets.
00:21:43
Nacc
Fun fact.
00:21:45
Fabio
Dude, Courtland sudden, he did cardio on Sunday.
00:21:45
rogeremeka
do you guys you guys ever see will You guys ever see that?
00:21:47
Nacc
First.
00:21:48
Fabio
He was just running around doing nothing.
00:21:49
rogeremeka
You guys remember Sam Mitchell, the coach for the Raptors?
00:21:53
Nacc
Yeah.
00:21:53
Fabio
Yes.
00:21:53
rogeremeka
He had a really great quote where like there was a guy, his name was Jerome Moizzo, and he was just saying how, you know, we have guys on our team, they do absolutely nothing. Look at their box score.
00:22:05
rogeremeka
Zero, zero, zero, zero, zero.
00:22:07
Fabio
and citizen
00:22:09
rogeremeka
And it reminded me of Courtney Sutton. Zero targets, zero catches, as FNAB said, Cardio.
00:22:12
Nacc
Yeah, and fun fun fact, that's the first game in his career where he doesn't have one target. At least one target.
00:22:17
rogeremeka
Yeah. Yeah.
00:22:19
Nacc
First game ever.
00:22:20
rogeremeka
Yeah. And then I lost on Colin Murray Haight due to his fourth quarter run. I think I would have won on that front. so But still two and two.
00:22:28
Nacc
Yep.
00:22:31
rogeremeka
So we'll look to do better next next week, week eight. Nack, who you love as who do you like as your first love?
00:22:39
Nacc
First love. Oh, this takes me back. ah First love of the week. I'm going to go with Jalen Waddle and Tyreek Hill. So they've been both in in fantasy purgatory for the last few weeks without Tua. Inexcusable by Mike Daniels and that staff to not ah find a way to scheme them scheme plays to scheme ways to get them the ball. Excuse me.
00:23:06
Nacc
But I digress. ah With Tua set to return on Sunday ah versus the Cardinals, I'm looking for both Tariq and Waddle to have huge games. ah With Arizona giving up the 7th most points to opposing wide receivers um and I think they're going to have their hands full as both are going to be motivated to try to put the past few weeks behind them.
00:23:27
Nacc
i'm I'm pretty sure like you you could see you could see how waddle and Tyreke have been Frustrated not getting the ball and I think last week was just like the last straw.
00:23:33
Fabio
Yeah.
00:23:36
Nacc
They got I think what four touches Total in in that game. So I think resurgence of to a saw guardian cap um is gonna be is gonna be Very very much needed for the Dolphins mojo, and I think they both have amazing games on Sunday
00:23:56
Fabio
Dude, that press conference made me so awkward. Made me feel so awkward. It's all right, man. You do you, bud.
00:24:05
rogeremeka
I was listening to McAfee and the their argument was like he wears a Guardian cap and like it puts a target on his head literally and figuratively. like i That's the only thing I could think of.
00:24:13
Nacc
ah Bro, he's going to have a target on his head either way, really.
00:24:15
rogeremeka
I i know, literally.
00:24:17
Fabio
Yeah.
00:24:18
rogeremeka
like I disagree with it, but I can sort of understand.
00:24:21
Fabio
That's a pretty weak argument.
00:24:24
rogeremeka
But yeah, like i think i think I think you know what?
00:24:27
Nacc
Because they're too cowboy. They're too like, oh, it makes you look like, you know, a Fifi to wear that, to wear that.
00:24:31
rogeremeka
Yeah.
00:24:32
Fabio
You look soft or whatever.
00:24:33
Nacc
Yeah, you look soft.
00:24:33
Fabio
It's like the European hockey players wearing visors.
00:24:34
Nacc
Like, bro, Jonathan Taylor wore one, man.
00:24:35
rogeremeka
Yeah.
00:24:37
Fabio
Like, oh, you're soft.
00:24:38
rogeremeka
Mm hmm.
00:24:38
Nacc
Yeah, man.
00:24:39
rogeremeka
Yeah.
00:24:42
rogeremeka
Who's your second love of the week neck?
Player Matchup Expectations for Week 8
00:24:45
Nacc
Yeah, second love this week is going to be Kirk Cousins at Tampa Bay Buccaneers. So the last time cousins played the Bucks, he scored just under 40 fantasy points. ah that That beautiful Thursday night game. So he's been up and down this season and he yeah he scored actually under 15 fantasy port and points excuse me in four of the last five weeks. um So pretty underwhelming.
00:25:09
Nacc
um And the only week he scored more in those five weeks did come against the Bucks on Thursday night. And the Bucks are giving up the second most points to QBs this season and just gave up five passing touchdowns to Lamar Jackson and and the Ravens. So ah look for Captain Cook to have a big day on Sunday.
00:25:31
rogeremeka
Yeah. Know the screaming here.
00:25:32
Nacc
Captain Kirk, should I say, I said Captain Cook, but it's Captain Kirk.
00:25:33
Fabio
Even, uh, even fire up the rest of the entire Atlanta offense too.
00:25:37
Nacc
For sure.
00:25:38
Fabio
Like, yeah, Darnell Mooney and even Drake London and your boy, Roger Kelpitz.
00:25:38
rogeremeka
Darnell Mooney. Remember Darnell Mooney had that big game.
00:25:42
rogeremeka
Yeah.
00:25:44
Fabio
He might make it four games in a row at 10 plus fantasy points.
00:25:45
rogeremeka
stops It stops at Drake Linden. Fab, give us your loves of the week.
00:25:53
Fabio
so i went So following NAC's theme thematic process last week, I also went in this in a similar direction. I just did all running backs this week. So my first one is Aaron Jones at the Rams on Thursday Night Football. ah The Rams are giving up the 10th most fancy points to running backs and with the Vikings coming off a tough loss versus the Lions this weekend, I expect.
00:26:15
Fabio
Minnesota to dominate this one from start to finish. Aaron Jones has been good. ah last week he Last week versus the second ranked defensive, Detroit Rundee, who are giving the least amount of fantasy points allowed. Well, second least amount of fantasy points allowed. He popped off for 93 rushing yards, one touchdown, three catches, 23 yards for 19 fantasy points. fourteen out of ah sorry Four out of five healthy games this season, he's produced at least 16 points.
00:26:41
Fabio
and is a PPR stud with 20 receptions on the year tied for 10th best. Start him with absolute confidence and get him in your lineup. I think he actually could finish the top five RB this week.
00:26:54
rogeremeka
Yep. I'm, uh, I made the mistake of not starting him, uh, last week in, uh, in one league and I, uh, I really regret it. So I'm going to farm up.
00:27:02
Fabio
He's looked, he's looked good, man. He's looked really, really good. And he's, he's, he's involved in every facet of the offense.
00:27:08
Nacc
I still don't know why Green Bay did that.
00:27:09
Fabio
And this is going to be the first defense he plays that is like a, not a difficult or a tough matchup. Like it's actually ah a very, very, uh, very good matchup.
00:27:22
Fabio
So I'm, I'm excited to see what he can do over here.
00:27:25
Nacc
It's crazy what the difference without Donald does they in that run stopping game.
00:27:30
Fabio
Yeah.
00:27:30
rogeremeka
It's a good point.
00:27:31
Fabio
Yeah.
00:27:32
rogeremeka
um Very good point.
00:27:32
Fabio
Huge.
00:27:34
rogeremeka
Who's your second running back?
00:27:36
Fabio
It's your boy, Roger. It's JK Dobbins versus New Orleans Saints league winner.
00:27:39
Nacc
League winner.
00:27:41
Fabio
What else is there to say about this potential league winner for 2024?
00:27:48
Fabio
Since taking command over the backfield with Gus, I guess that was injury. He's been averaging 12.35 points per game, which is about RB 28 since week four. It doesn't really scream off the page, but this week he does get a very nice matchup versus New Orleans that have been giving up the eighth most points or running backs and do not seem like a defense that we all expected to fear in the last few weeks since week five.
00:28:09
Fabio
New Orleans have surrendered an average 147 rushing yards and five touchdowns. They've also surrendered 10 rushing touchdowns on the year, third highest in the league. The PPR floor against New Orleans defense from a rush from a running back perspective is also pretty high with on average about three receptions and 35 yards. So I think JK gets lead back carries as usual. ah He's averaged about 6.9% of the carries since the buy. And I think he also finds the end endz zone, even puts up some low end RB1 numbers, high end RB2.
00:28:37
Fabio
Another guy I think that you can get in your lineup and you can start with confidence.
00:28:43
rogeremeka
Yeah, I think this is a prime matchup where they should be in front.
00:28:46
Fabio
Yeah, I think, yeah, I think GameScript is going to be in their favor.
00:28:47
rogeremeka
They should be in front. And when they're in front, I think that's where they'll hand the ball off more to the running backs. They're not a team that plays well catching up from behind. It's very clear.
00:28:56
Nacc
No, no, great point.
00:29:02
rogeremeka
Very good. Thank you, Fab. On my end, first matchup I love is Rico Dowdle at the 49ers on Sunday Night Football. The Cowboys are prioritizing offensive balance coming out of the bye, and Mike McCarthy is calling for more touches for Rico Dao.
00:29:16
rogeremeka
He literally said it, which I think is a smart move because they're not playing a balanced offense right now.
00:29:19
Fabio
Mm hmm.
00:29:22
rogeremeka
He has 4.2 yards per carry, which is solid, and he had that really good game against the Steelers, which I think they can use as ah as a template. Last season, the matchup against the 49ers marked the turning point for for Dallas. Before their buy, they averaged 320 total yards per game, but after adjustments, they surged to 400 yards per game, with Dak Prescott finishing as MVP running up.
00:29:43
rogeremeka
This time, posed by, they'll fail face a 49ers defense that's not as fearsome as before. We saw Kareem Hunt and Kyron Williams both post big fantasy numbers against them, 22 and 31 points respectively, and PFF has ranked and the Niners run defense seven worst, a pretty steep drop from their top 10 status last year in 2023. If Dowell's remains committed to the run and balanced, I think they could exploit this matchup and make Dowell a sneaky flex play.
00:30:13
Nacc
It's going to be an interesting matchup with the amount of injuries that San Fran now has is piling up. So I definitely yeah actually like that play a lot because of that. I think, like you said, if Dallas is able to control the game, then I do see him putting up some solid numbers.
00:30:32
Fabio
He said, no, I was gonna say he has three straight games with 10 plus fantasy points.
00:30:32
rogeremeka
Dak is throwing. Go ahead.
00:30:36
Fabio
The only concern that I have is that, um, he he's only had more than 10 carries twice out of, out of five games.
00:30:43
rogeremeka
Yeah.
00:30:46
Nacc
What is their love with Zeke? Can I understand?
00:30:48
rogeremeka
So that that's where I think, I think McCarthy said it straight up. Like they need to give the ball to Daldal more. And I was just about to say that Prescott is throwing the ball way too much.
00:30:57
Nacc
Yeah.
00:30:58
Fabio
Yeah.
00:30:58
rogeremeka
like just play ball control. you don't You don't have the horses in the passing game to throw the ball 40 times a game. So this is ah it's a huge game for both teams, like huge, huge game.
00:31:09
Fabio
Do we know what, um, do we know what McCarthy's coach speak rating is?
00:31:14
rogeremeka
I'm sure it's really bad. but Just everything about him is bad. He's just he's just a bad coach overall.
00:31:18
Fabio
Do you think, uh, like off topic here, but do you think he's, he lasts the season McCarthy?
00:31:20
rogeremeka
um
00:31:28
Nacc
Yes.
00:31:28
rogeremeka
yeah i i don't think he doesn't fire yeah he doesn't yeah
00:31:29
Nacc
Yeah.
00:31:29
Fabio
Yeah.
00:31:29
Nacc
Jerry Jones doesn't fire coaches in season.
00:31:31
Fabio
Yeah.
00:31:32
Nacc
Yeah. It would, it would, it would surprise me. Like it would, again, I know I'm bringing up the Steelers, but last year when they fired their offensive coordinator, like that was like the shock move because they never, ever fire coaches in season.
00:31:36
Fabio
But.
00:31:44
Fabio
Yeah.
00:31:45
Nacc
But so again, you can never, never say never.
00:31:47
Fabio
Well, that, that season that Jason Garrett took over, he was the offensive coordinator.
00:31:48
Nacc
Cause it looked as it happened in a, like a franchise.
00:31:54
Fabio
He took over head coaching duties. I forget who the head coach was.
00:31:57
rogeremeka
Build parcels, no?
00:31:58
Fabio
It was Bill, was that Bill Parcells? I got part?
00:32:00
Nacc
Really?
00:32:00
Fabio
No. No.
00:32:00
rogeremeka
It must have been parcels.
00:32:02
Nacc
No, part that's that's long before, no?
00:32:03
Fabio
Who was a coach for former McCarthy and before Garrett?
00:32:07
rogeremeka
But before Garrett would have right now.
00:32:13
Nacc
Wow.
00:32:13
Fabio
Anyways, I don't want to derail the podcast there, but, but I think that coach was the one that was fired in mid-season.
00:32:17
Nacc
That's a good trivia question there. It's not Parcels. It wasn't Parcels before Garrett. Was it? Could it really have been?
00:32:24
Fabio
No, Parcells, I was in college when Parcells, who was who?
00:32:25
Nacc
It can't be. Parcels is old.
00:32:26
rogeremeka
Oh, Wade Phillips.
00:32:27
Nacc
There we go.
00:32:27
rogeremeka
Wade Phillips. Wade Phillips.
00:32:28
Nacc
Wade Phillips.
00:32:29
rogeremeka
Wade Phillips.
00:32:29
Nacc
Wade Phillips.
00:32:29
Fabio
Wade Phillips.
00:32:30
rogeremeka
Yeah. Wade Phillips.
00:32:30
Nacc
That makes more sense.
00:32:31
Fabio
Yeah, I think he was fired mid-season and then Garrett Wilson took over.
00:32:32
rogeremeka
Yeah.
00:32:34
Fabio
Ah, Garrett Wilson. um Jason Garrett took over.
00:32:36
rogeremeka
Jason Garrett. like Second match up I love this week.
Challenges for Players Against Strong Defenses
00:32:40
rogeremeka
i'm going off the cup heat cup cup cuff I'm going off the cuff here with Cedric Tillman versus the Ravens.
00:32:41
Nacc
Off the cuff.
00:32:44
Fabio
Cuff, cuff, cuff, to us.
00:32:50
rogeremeka
So I did a little scouting report. I rewatched Cedric Tillman's catches from last week against the Bengals and even his 4-for-55 game versus Denver last year. And he's clearly a big physical X receiver with strong hands.
00:33:02
rogeremeka
Very similar to Amari Cooper. His 12 targets, 8 catches, and 81 yards led the Browns last week, and he developed some really nice chemistry with DTR and Jamis Winston. There was even buzz around him since OTAs, with rumors that he surpassed Elijah Moore on the depth chart.
00:33:20
rogeremeka
Panthers legend Steve Smith raved about him, and Randy Moss called him the best young receiver he's seen out of the draft in 15 years.
00:33:26
Nacc
Wow.
00:33:26
rogeremeka
The Ravens are allowing 29 fantasy points per game to wide receivers, and I think Tillman is primed for a breakout. his His scouting profile is very similar to Cooper, as I said.
00:33:37
rogeremeka
so It feels like they knew what they were doing trading Cooper and then they target and peppered him right away because he fits that kind of like X receiver outside role.
00:33:42
Fabio
Hmm.
00:33:46
Nacc
Yeah.
00:33:47
rogeremeka
So it could be interesting play for flex.
00:33:49
Nacc
and And they're going to definitely see better QB play now with Watson sidelined.
00:33:54
rogeremeka
Yeah.
00:33:55
Nacc
And I think Bailey Zappi is going to be the backup on um Sunday.
00:33:59
rogeremeka
For the Browns.
00:34:00
Nacc
Or yeah, they just signed him to the active roster because DTR is is hurt too.
00:34:01
rogeremeka
Oh my God. The finger. Yeah.
00:34:06
Fabio
Wow.
00:34:07
Nacc
Yeah, should be interesting.
00:34:07
Fabio
Yeah. If Steve Smith senior likes him as a wide receiver, I like him.
00:34:11
rogeremeka
He's the one who called Cooper Cub being the best wide receiver in the 2017 class.
00:34:16
Fabio
Yep.
00:34:16
rogeremeka
And he called it at the combine. And I was like over Corey Davis, Juju Smith Schuster.
00:34:19
Fabio
Yep.
00:34:22
Nacc
Corey Davis.
00:34:23
rogeremeka
There was a lot of guys like who went, to six or seven guys who went before him.
00:34:26
Fabio
And he, he called the Jerry Judy being just a jag.
00:34:29
rogeremeka
Yep, and he is still right on that front.
00:34:31
Nacc
And look. Yep. Yep.
00:34:35
rogeremeka
Nack, who's your first hate for week eight?
00:34:38
Nacc
So probably by unpopular opinion because he's been good, but Drake May versus the Jets is my first hate of the week. He's been ah pretty much the only bright spot in an otherwise dreadful season for the Patriots so far. And and he was on our love list for week seven. um He's put up back to back 20 point games, which is great. However, he played the Texans and Jaguars defenses that give up the seventh and second most points to QBs ah respectively.
00:35:09
Nacc
um He gets a desperate Jets team in week eight who were embarrassed in week seven by the Steelers. I know another chance for a Steelers plug. um Despite the 37 points surrendered, the Jets still give up the fourth fewest points to QBs. So I think the young rookie comes back down to earth and has a rough outing on Sunday.
00:35:30
rogeremeka
Tough to trust week to week.
00:35:30
Fabio
Yeah.
00:35:32
Nacc
Yeah, I don't know. I don't, I don't like the matchup at all.
00:35:34
rogeremeka
Yeah.
00:35:37
Nacc
ah Second hate of the week is going to be your boy Malik neighbors at Steelers on Monday Night Football.
00:35:46
Fabio
Another Steelers plug.
00:35:47
Nacc
another Steelers plug sorry guys i'm I've got a hard on this week with the Steelers after that game um so neighbors was um neighbors was in the in the running for offensive rookie of the year early on but the concussion put a halt to that for the moment and his first came back from a two game absence he saw eight targets but only hauled in four for 41 yards
00:35:50
rogeremeka
Wild.
00:36:11
Nacc
ah Previously he had 18, 12, and 15 targets in his previous three outings before the the injuries. So there are rumors of him. I know Rothab, you mentioned it yesterday, of him complaining about not getting enough targets as well. So within him battling some adversity, we see a little bit of a diva action peeking through. ah Things don't...
00:36:32
Nacc
Looks like they're going to be getting better in week 8 as he gets to Steelers D giving up the 10th fewest points to wide receivers and he figures to see a heavy dose of Joey Porter Jr. and then couple that with the fact that Daniel Jones um struggles on on prime time so I see another modest game incoming for the young star rookie.
00:36:54
Fabio
Yeah, I don't really disagree with this. I've had some people on TikTok asking me about trading for Malik neighbors and like giving up Garrett Wilson for him. And I'm like, I ah wouldn't do that at the moment that I don't know how this offense is going to be looking now without. We mentioned yesterday, right? Like with, uh, with Andrew Thomas no longer there and protecting the quarterback, whether that may be, whether it's Daniel Jones or.
00:37:15
Fabio
Or drew lock so you have to figure that targets for Malik neighbors are gonna be hard to come by um I Mean diva I wouldn't call him diva. I mean he's just mentioning that he was open and not getting the ball That's all b Brian and Brian table.
00:37:30
Fabio
The coach did say yeah, you're open. You need to get the ball. So But I don't disagree with this call Unfortunately, honestly this game Monday night for next Monday night.
00:37:36
Nacc
Some sounds like a giant and speaking.
00:37:40
Fabio
I don't even know if I'm gonna tune in I think I might just look at the box for after I
00:37:42
Nacc
You're going to tune in, would you stop? Would you stop? And just before I.
00:37:45
Fabio
And my girlfriend wants to keep on.
00:37:46
rogeremeka
Great opportunity to catch up on video games for me, actually. Am might am I not tuning in here?
00:37:50
Nacc
Well, you know, just speaking, speaking of speaking of video games, just honorable mention, a Call of Duty does come out on um on Friday, two games, two days before the the Cardinals have to play the Dolphins.
00:38:00
Fabio
So there should be.
00:38:01
rogeremeka
He has a partnership with them.
00:38:02
Nacc
So Kyler Murray might be diving into his his kill streaks before he gets into the game planning. So just watch something ah something something to watch.
00:38:09
Fabio
There should be a black list of players that we can't put on the hate list for the rest of the season. One of them is, it has to be Kyler Murray and the other one has to be Anthony Richardson. Cause like, it's just like, no, like I'm sorry. And until they show me something different, like I won't be, I won't be accepting those as potential hates going forward.
00:38:27
rogeremeka
You guys basically let me do a hate segment on Anthony rich Richardson yesterday, which I'm going to, I'm going to repurpose anyway. So, which I think a knock you did repurpose. Thank you.
00:38:36
Nacc
No problem.
00:38:38
rogeremeka
Um, thank you.
00:38:40
Fabio
Is it my turn?
00:38:41
rogeremeka
Knock fab your hates.
00:38:43
Fabio
So I'm going to go back to that New Orleans Saints and Chargers game. And for my hate, I'm actually going to take Alvin Camara. Saints are already um they're already completely dysfunctional.
00:38:55
Fabio
Add on the fact that they're facing the Chargers this week in l LA. It only makes me feel even less confident for Camara. ah Chargers are giving up the third few fantasy points for running backs. Chargers have surrendered only one rushing touchdown all season and before yet before yesterday's game versus Arizona, they hadn't had a rush trigger more than 70 yards on the ground. So James Connor was the first one actually to hit more than 70 yards and he got 101.
00:39:19
Fabio
Camaro hasn't hit 100 plus yards since week two after scoring four TDs in his first two games. He's only had two in his last five. He's been held to under 15 carries in the last three games. The usage is very concerning. The fact that the Saints are just a mess right now with all their injuries makes me think that he'll see a lot of stack boxes and mostly and be, be kept up behind the line of scrimmage. He's a flex play for me. Maybe low on RB two, if he gets lucky with the receiving work, but I'm it's not a confidence start for me. If I'm an Alvin Camaro owner.
00:39:47
rogeremeka
Yeah, if I've been our other league we're in, I have ah Camara mixing and 20 Pollard and Dobbins. And like, I think I would put Dobbins, as you said, over Camara in that one.
00:39:57
Fabio
That's a good segue into my next hate, unless anyone else has another comment.
00:39:59
Nacc
Hard to bench Camaro, though.
00:40:01
Fabio
Well, that's the thing.
00:40:01
Nacc
So hard.
00:40:02
Fabio
Like in in Roger's case, if you have a stack running back room and you can afford to bench Camaro because the matchup's great, you know, but a lot of people probably don't. But.
00:40:11
Nacc
Yeah, it's just that like that one big play away from you know breaking one. That's the only fear you have when you sit these types of players.
00:40:17
Fabio
Do chargers run defensive chargers defense in general is very good.
00:40:17
rogeremeka
I'll wait till car is back.
00:40:20
Fabio
Their defense in general is very, very good.
00:40:20
Nacc
Yep.
00:40:22
Fabio
Very underrated. I find not a lot of people are talking about it. They've surrendered. Like they they've, they've been very solid on passing defense and rushing defense as well.
00:40:30
rogeremeka
Yep, there's stop.
00:40:32
Fabio
Yeah. So I think, and the fact that like, they don't have to really worry about the past when it comes to the, the saints, uh, just add to the fact that Camara is going to have a very rough outing. It could be a good game though, for Kendrick Miller might see a little more between the tackles, but, um, much really sure about Camara.
00:40:44
rogeremeka
Yep.
00:40:47
Fabio
Uh, the next hate that I have is, uh, Tony Pollard, Pollard, excuse me.
00:40:51
Nacc
Lard.
00:40:52
Fabio
It's going to be Tony Pollard for me for the rest of the season, guys. Don't even, don't even care about that. Uh, this, uh, they're playing, uh, at the Detroit lion. So this, uh, this might be an unpopular opinion, but I think Tony Pollard is more inefficient when he's the lead back than when he's operating in a committee.
00:41:10
Fabio
Uh, see Dallas last year, for example. Right. So with Spears being out, I don't think. And this will necessarily benefit Pollard. Although there's rumors and expectations that Spears might be back in week eight, but he has still yet to practice. It's still very early on in the week, but keep an eye on that. um Then you throw the fact throw in the fact that he's facing the true defense that's giving him a second choose fantasy points for running backs. And this really turns into a bad feeling about Pollard for week eight. I would actually bench Pollard in this matchup if I could. Tennessee will most likely be playing from behind, which again, puts more negative game script on Tony Pollard. so
00:41:45
Fabio
He's 100% not a star for me, not even Pollard, excuse me.
00:41:46
Nacc
Pollard.
00:41:49
Fabio
ah he's He's not a star for me and I even think he finishes outside the top 25.
00:41:54
rogeremeka
He's had a really solid year, I have to say. twenty twenty one He's RB21 right now. So it's been a good bounce back year for him.
00:41:59
Fabio
This from, he's been a great flex play if you drafted him.
00:42:02
rogeremeka
Yeah.
00:42:03
Fabio
He's had some really good games and I just think that here against Detroit, I mean, I think, uh, apart from Aaron Jones and Kenneth Walker, the third that just blew up that, uh, that Monday night game, like they've, they've held their, their running backs in check quite a bit.
00:42:19
rogeremeka
Yeah.
00:42:22
rogeremeka
Good stuff, thank you, Fab. ah First matchup I hate is Matthew Stafford versus the Vikings, heavy Thursday night football contingency here. Despite Goff's strong performance against the Vikings, I'm not optimistic about Stafford's matchup this week. The Rams offensive line is dealing with injuries to three starters, and Stafford has faced the third at highest pressure per drop back rate at 27%. Meanwhile, the Vikings defense leads the league in pressures, blitz rate, and interceptions.
00:42:50
rogeremeka
While Cooper cup is expected to return soon, Dan Racini reported that the Rams are open to training him for a second round pick. Safford is currently the QB 27 on the season. that's That's hard to believe.
00:43:00
Nacc
yeah
00:43:00
rogeremeka
And despite his real life talent, he's been nearly unplayable into QB and Superflex leagues.
00:43:00
Nacc
Yuck.
00:43:05
rogeremeka
And I don't think that trend is likely to change this Thursday.
00:43:09
Nacc
Wow.
00:43:10
Fabio
Do it.
00:43:10
rogeremeka
Crazy.
00:43:11
Nacc
QB 27.
00:43:12
rogeremeka
It's crazy.
00:43:12
Fabio
It's a different offense when both of your top wide receivers are not playing. And this gives me some potential Baker Mayfield feelings going forward.
00:43:21
rogeremeka
Yeah, I love Mr. Veneers, but ah it's not looking good.
00:43:24
Nacc
I feel so bad for you, fam.
00:43:27
Fabio
No, you don't.
00:43:28
Nacc
You're right, I don't.
00:43:28
Fabio
You gave me the biggest court of news last night and it came from such a genuine place after the recording, you know, five, your team is really stacked, man.
00:43:35
Nacc
It was, it was actually, it was actually super genuine.
00:43:37
Fabio
Honestly, your team is really stacked.
00:43:38
rogeremeka
it was It was so obnoxious.
00:43:38
Nacc
Like I was, I was honestly gushing.
00:43:39
rogeremeka
how how it was It was so obnoxious.
00:43:41
Fabio
It was, it was discussed.
00:43:41
Nacc
I was honestly gushing.
00:43:41
rogeremeka
how mature
00:43:42
Fabio
I wanted to puke halfway through.
00:43:43
rogeremeka
He was interrupting.
00:43:44
Fabio
i was And I'm like, okay, Raj, Raj, what about the recording tomorrow?
00:43:44
rogeremeka
He was literally, he was inter, like Nak was like interrupting. Like, dude, your team is so, no, no, but look, shut up. I don't care what you're saying.
00:43:50
Nacc
No, it was, I was gushing.
00:43:50
rogeremeka
I don't care you have to eat supper. Your team is so good.
00:43:52
Fabio
No, no, but five, five, your team is really good, man.
00:43:52
Nacc
I was gushing, but but it also, cause he was, I was playing him, right? So I was just like, I'm looking at his team and I'm like, I'm like, I had no chance, you know, like 197 points he got this week or something.
00:43:57
rogeremeka
Like, wow.
00:43:58
Fabio
The mode.
00:44:01
Fabio
You took full advantage of me last night.
00:44:01
rogeremeka
Yeah.
00:44:01
Nacc
And I'm just looking at his team. I'm like, wow, even, even the backups.
00:44:03
Fabio
And I feel, I feel used and abused following that conversation. And quite frankly, I'm, I feel dirty right now.
00:44:08
rogeremeka
then
00:44:09
Fabio
Just talking about it. Can we end the podcast earlier so I can take a shower?
00:44:10
Nacc
It was a big one. It was a big one.
00:44:13
Fabio
So disgusting.
00:44:13
Nacc
It was a big one.
00:44:14
rogeremeka
after your supper. I hate to do it again guys, but second matchup I hate is Tyrone Tracy Jr. against the Steelers.
00:44:21
Fabio
Uh, too many is the answer too many.
00:44:22
Nacc
How many times we say Steelers today? A lot. I like it. I like it.
00:44:27
rogeremeka
It was really hard to find some some hates. So yeah, second matchup, Tyrone Tracy Jr. at the Steelers. I do not like this matchup. Only two teams have cracked the steals run defense for over 100 yards a season, the Colts with Jonathan Taylor and the aforementioned Cowboys with Rico Dowdle's performance. Both teams boasted far superior superiors quarterback play compared to the Giants. Meanwhile, Pittsburgh is very stingy against running backs, allowing the fifth fewest fantasy points per game.
00:44:53
rogeremeka
While Tracy has flashed some upside ranking as the RB24 over the past three weeks and averaging a dominant 71% snap share compared to Singletary's 29%, this week there are clearly better flex options against the Steelers. Tracy is a risky start and best left on your bench.
00:45:13
Fabio
This game is going to finish 40 nothing for the Steelers. Like straight up.
00:45:17
Nacc
You're trying to cordon it back now.
00:45:18
Fabio
No, I'm just being honest. snack I'm just being genuine here. You know, I'm just being honest. I really think the Steelers are going to absolutely demolish the Giants on Monday night football. I really, really do.
00:45:25
rogeremeka
This game, this game can be an email.
00:45:26
Fabio
This is just me being completely honest. I don't know.
00:45:31
Fabio
this this interesting
00:45:32
rogeremeka
Like, this this this game can be, like, we don't need to watch, like, I don't need to watch.
00:45:33
Nacc
Wow. Wow. Wow.
00:45:37
Fabio
i I don't. Yeah. I honestly, I can just look at the box score the next day.
00:45:40
rogeremeka
Yeah, it's like, hmm?
00:45:40
Fabio
I don't need to know the outcome until.
00:45:41
Nacc
Feelers wearing their color rush too on Monday.
00:45:43
Fabio
What color is that yellow?
00:45:46
Nacc
No, just the black with the yellow numbering.
00:45:48
rogeremeka
It's the same jersey I can, I don't understand.
00:45:50
Nacc
Oh, classic teams don't mess around with the classic teams don't mess around with the jerseys.
00:45:50
Fabio
Honestly, how was that? Black is not a color, man. Black is not a color.
00:45:55
rogeremeka
It's the same jersey.
00:45:56
Fabio
Black is literally the absence of color. Black is not, that's not a color rush.
00:45:58
Nacc
like The jersey, the jersey is the jersey is black and the numbers are yellow.
00:46:00
Fabio
That's an absence. That's an absent of a color rush.
Steelers' Throwback Jerseys Discussion
00:46:04
rogeremeka
So, Knack, Knack, the game against the Jets, that was a throwback jersey?
00:46:04
Fabio
Listen, you guys have figured out everything else except for how to get your jerseys, like a little more unique, but it's fine.
00:46:11
Nacc
ah but They have when they have block block numbers, the big block numbers.
00:46:13
rogeremeka
Yeah.
00:46:14
Fabio
That was the throwback part that they had block numbers.
00:46:15
rogeremeka
That's exactly, that's like, that's the Alex Jones meme. Like, dude, I was literally, I was really Googling.
00:46:22
Nacc
but it's like the habs bro you don't change logos you don't change your i i love that well they also don't have the um they also don't have the uh the Steelers logo no no on the on the jersey on the jersey
00:46:22
rogeremeka
I had one, I had one, I had one tab. I had one tab, Steelers throwback jersey. I had another tab, Steelers 2024 jersey. I was like, yeah.
00:46:31
Fabio
the The throwback is they changed the font in Steelers. That's the throwback.
00:46:34
rogeremeka
It's a beautiful jersey. Look at it. Like, you won't get strong.
00:46:36
Fabio
Yeah, I know. No one's, no one's.
00:46:42
Fabio
Ah, that's the different, can we move on?
00:46:45
rogeremeka
had no okay yeah ah that's all we have to do no na yeah
00:46:51
Fabio
You know, but side note though, hold on a second. Why don't they bring back color rush? That was a fun part of Thursday night. Like they don't do that anymore.
00:46:56
Nacc
But they do, they do have it, like they've been doing it. Green Bay had their all white, like, oh, you're saying like the mandatory one on Thursday night.
00:47:02
Fabio
Like the whole, yeah, like the color rush theme, you know, like I thought that was super, I thought that was fun.
00:47:05
Nacc
Ah, well teams still do the color rush, but it's just more like, it's more in prime time for sure.
00:47:09
Fabio
Yeah.
00:47:12
Fabio
Mm hmm.
00:47:13
Nacc
Like they had that this year, they had member, like Detroit had different color helmets. um I think the Cardinals last night had black helmets, had black helmets with the red Cardinals.
00:47:18
rogeremeka
Yeah.
00:47:18
Fabio
Yeah, that the dark was was it Navy or? Yeah.
00:47:23
rogeremeka
Yeah, I hate ah hate the all black look.
00:47:25
Nacc
The Colts had a different one this year too.
00:47:25
rogeremeka
And I i like the all white look.
00:47:28
Fabio
And they went Navy or something?
00:47:28
rogeremeka
I hate.
00:47:29
Fabio
What? Oh, it was the it was the Texans that went and with their with their their Navy alternate jersey or something like that. That's cool.
00:47:35
rogeremeka
Yep.
00:47:36
Fabio
That's cool.
00:47:38
rogeremeka
Alright, that's all we have today, folks. Once again, don't forget to like, share, subscribe to all our social medias. Please, please, please download and listen to the episodes on Spotify, Apple Podcast, and YouTube. Thanks for spending your time with us. On behalf of Fab and Knack, I'm Raj. Thank you for listening.
00:47:57
Nacc
the music another week in the books boys wow episode thirty six thirty six um but who is the gonna have champagne on on air so if we slur a little bit you'll know why goodbye
00:47:58
Fabio
Do the music. I wasn't sure if you froze or not. I was like.
00:48:07
Fabio
36.
00:48:08
rogeremeka
52 soon Yeah, we should we should do a giveaway that note have a good night everyone.
00:48:11
Fabio
Are we doing something for episode 50? We should. That's only seven weeks away.
00:48:20
Fabio
Mm hmm. Have a good night. Everyone take out.
00:48:25
rogeremeka
Bye