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Personal Peaks: Rui & Logan's Journey Towards Health Optimization
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In this heartening episode of Codeplay Culture, your hosts Rui and Logan Dunning bare their souls and share their personal journeys towards achieving optimal health. Tune in as they reflect on their unique experiences, the challenges they've faced, and the strategies they've adopted to enhance their well-being in a world constantly demanding their attention.
From embracing balanced nutrition and regular exercise to nurturing their mental health and fostering positive relationships, Rui and Logan discuss the multifaceted nature of health optimization. They delve into the importance of personalizing health plans and the role of perseverance, self-awareness, and adaptability in their quests for healthier lifestyles.
Listen to their inspiring stories and gather invaluable insights that can guide your own journey towards health optimization. This episode is a must-listen for anyone looking to enhance their health and well-being from a genuinely personal perspective. Join us at Codeplay Culture, where we believe in growing together – in health, in life, and in play!
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Introduction to Codeplay Culture
00:00:00
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Welcome to the Codeplay Culture podcast, where we discuss tech, gaming, health, and the world around us.
00:00:10
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Everyone, welcome back to Code Play Culture podcast. Rui and Logan back at it yet again for another round underground. When you hear the sound, it will pound like thunder. We got the hunger to devour every flower. So don't cower every hour. Just have some gold showers. Probably not that last one, but dude, welcome. How's it going, Rui? It's going good, man. Yeah. Likely not that last one, please. Not the last one for sure. Yeah. Kind of ruined it right at the end.
00:00:40
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That's good. Were you reading off a script? Cause that was, that was like, that was fresh, man. That was like top off the top of your head.
Freestyling: A Mental Exercise
00:00:46
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Yeah. Um, that was nice. Everything's off the dome, you know, um, all the dome when no one's home, home alone, my colleague, Culkin double dipping a chipping, balling like Pippin, um, to and from places I drive, I will freestyle put on an instrumental. And if you do it too much, um, it'll hurt your throat.
00:01:09
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So, you know, at that point you stop or you're going to get sick. Right. So what do you do? Like you put on trap and just, just go at it. Uh, no, no, no, no. I put on real music. Okay. Like, um, you know, underground hip hop, like, you know, like, you know, whatever, you know, nineties hip hop instrumentals.
The Evolution of Hip Hop
00:01:30
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Um, and, uh, it's more about for me, um,
00:01:34
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cultivating that quick-wittedness, which is useful in sales situations and podcasting like you saw. The rhyming part can be obnoxious for others to listen to, very cringy. However, it does help with being able to say something quickly to maybe change the conversation for the better in a positive way. Do you ever find yourself at a bank talking to the teller and just
00:02:04
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Rhyming while you're like, yeah, give me that bank or I'll Show you my wank. I'm not sure I can't You just got to get two shots No, I honestly back you back in the day in in Meadowvale You know like
00:02:25
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It was like a first world problem ghetto, meaning that you think you're in a ghetto, but you're not. It's a, it's a nice place to live. Right. Um, and you know, we would just, you know, freestyle all the time. We'd sit on the curb with a, you know, a bag.
00:02:40
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and a bottle of OE inside of it. Just like, you know, throw up in the sewers and spit freestyles and hang out in alleys. And yeah, it was fun. We had a, you know, Slim Shady. You know when Slim Shady came out with that, just like me, and there's all the clones. Yeah.
00:03:00
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Yeah, we were, we were one of those, right? Nice. We loved hip hop, the culture, all that stuff. Yeah. The one thing that sucks about it is the, at the time, the fights, the beef and stuff, but it's matured over the years. Yeah.
00:03:17
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Yeah, and that's a great segue into our topic, right?
Health Optimization Strategies
00:03:22
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About health, optimal health and puking in sewers. Yes. Puking in sewers. Yes. The last part of this podcast, meaning the next
00:03:34
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next part, it's all about puking in sewers. The rest of it was just lead up. And the rest of it's going to be throw up. But yes, so today we're basically going to talk about Rui is anything that you've done, anything I've done, any
00:03:56
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thing that we know that other people have done, YouTube videos, podcasts, whatever, to optimize health, wellness, mind, body, and soul. And what is the point? You probably want to feel good because
00:04:09
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You had a good quote in the last podcast. I sent you that, which is life is a continuum of sadness with many happy moments. Even if you flip that to life is a continuum of happiness with many sad moments, it still isn't sustainable unless it comes from within. If you're not feeling good about yourself from a self-confidence, self-esteem perspective,
00:04:37
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if you're not healthy mentally or if you want to get healthier mentally. If you're not physically fit and that's not a body shame, that's not a working out pro. It has been shown countless time and time again if you do anything physical
00:05:00
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It benefits mental health, sleep, everything, right? Right. So throw everything you know about, you know, bodybuilding and all that stuff out the window. And it, uh, it benefits everything in your life. Absolutely. And, um, if you don't, if you let yourself lapse, you not only degrade yourself. And I mean that as an degradation of the body, but
00:05:25
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you know, everything around you starts to degrade the same way, right? If you let your mental health or if your mental health is degrading, it's not just you, you're affecting, you're affecting everybody within your circle, right? And that can in turn affect others. It's almost like it's a, it's almost like a disease that spreads, right? It can affect beyond that. And at some point the world's just going to go mad. Um,
00:05:51
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But yeah, it all starts with you, with us, right? Yeah. So yeah, it's like alcoholism, right? You know how they say it destroys families. That's that inner circle. Exactly. Something you said there is also super deep and true where because we're like always transmitting positive or negative vibes, like
00:06:13
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We're like towers in a field that are emitting emotions and feelings.
00:06:22
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if you're in a room of 100 people and there is someone who just lost a parent, you just feel like, oh, I just feel off today. I don't know what it is. I just, I don't know what it is. Maybe never met or talked to her. We are all connected. We're all unique. We're all different, but we're all part of the same thing. Like ethereally, like from a soul, mind, body perspective, we can feel each other. We can
Caffeine: Boon or Bane?
00:06:48
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tap into those.
00:06:49
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Um, emotional States. And yeah, we are only as, um, strong as the weakest person on the team. Right. Right. Exactly. Exactly. So segue again. Um, what have you done did? Oh man. You mean today's spot first. You want me to go first. I can go first. What have I done? What have I done? What do I do? What do I continue doing? The one thing that I've done that is.
00:07:19
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Pretty detrimental to my overall health is drink coffee three to four times a day. And it's not helping. It's not helping with my sleep. I do want to get into the pattern of sleeping well. I remember a time in my life when I used to sleep, you know, pretty good. Eight hours without waking up, even six hours, just a continuous sleep. I felt good. I felt amazing.
00:07:48
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Lack of sleep, I think, is attributed to the worst feelings you could ever imagine. It's almost like being an alcoholic, right? It has detrimental effects to your body. And I need to get on that sleep wagon, man. I need to be instructed on how to sleep. It's such a mundane thing, right? You think, sleep, anybody could do it.
00:08:13
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I think it is, you should treat sleep like something to learn. Learn how to sleep because I don't think a lot of people know how to properly sleep. What is your take on that?
00:08:33
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So I know exactly how to optimize sleep. I've done the research. I've implemented a lot of it. Unfortunately right now I'm kind of off the wagon as opposed to like having a daytime coffee as you are. I know what to do. Like I just got off a two month zero caffeine and that includes chocolate, tea and any caffeine. And it takes about, you know, two weeks.
00:08:58
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You first, you have the headaches and whatnot, which, by the way, those headaches are the blood returning to your brain because your brain's not used to having blood in it, right? It's used to being a dried volleyball size raisin. That's what it's used to. It's not used to being a grape. They took before and after shots of MRI patients, like before caffeine after. And this is all like public domain. So at about week, two weeks,
00:09:27
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Um, you basically just follow, you get, you get tired on your own. You don't have to try to sleep anymore. And, um, you wake up just in the most sublime, perfect state ever. And I know different places of the world are different in terms of the workaholic culture that we have in the West. Right.
00:09:50
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However, coffee is still prevalent everywhere or caffeine is prevalent everywhere, right? I will say that caffeine, I'm against caffeine completely as the amount of what humans are doing with this is an inappropriate amount globally, right? So I would say, you know,
00:10:18
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If you want to do a bunch of things like melatonin, L-theanine, or maybe not seeing so much light in the evenings, don't be on screens, throw that out the window. Don't even worry about that. Get rid of all of the caffeine. Get rid of all of the stimulants.
00:10:37
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everything falls in place. But if you don't want to do anything but one thing, get rid of all caffeine in your sleep. For the most part, if you can easier said than done, it is literally like a alcoholic quitting or someone that's a smoker quitting. Oh, yes, you're said than done. But that is the one thing that everyone needs to do. Everyone needs to do it. And probably 99% will never.
Alcohol's Impact on Health
00:11:03
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Yeah. Yeah. It's just tough, right? It's tough to stop. You know, that satisfaction of having that coffee, right? That feeling that first morning coffee, it's hard to stop that. I feel like, yeah, you could stop coffee, but there are more things to their bigger fish to fry, right? When it comes to optimal health and yeah, coffee could, could maybe take the, you know, lower spot on the ladder, lower rung of the ladder. Um, um, alcohol would be probably the
00:11:32
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the top wrong one that needs to be absolutely taken out and eliminated alcohol. If anything.
00:11:40
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That is the one that needs to be eradicated. Everything else, yes, in moderation, but yet alcohol, not even in moderation. It should be just completely completely. Yeah. It's Snoop Dogg had a great YouTube short or TikTok where he's like, hey, you know, growing up, if there was a bunch of friends and maybe some enemies in the room, give us some, uh,
00:12:05
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a weed and we'd all chill out and be friends. Give one person in that room alcohol and someone's going to die. And the reason for that is because alcohol is a poison and even the smallest amount of meat, alcohol, like 100% or very neat will kill you.
00:12:31
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The first thing it does is your prefrontal cortex, which is for empathy, which is right at the front of your head. When a human is poisoned, it throws that out. It says, look, you just got bit by a viper. This is no time for you to be nice to your wife.
00:12:51
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right? You need to focus on not dying. So these fights, the guns, the road rage, the bar fights, there is no marijuana hookah club fight. And that's one of the reasons that it should be completely
00:13:14
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You know, it should be, why is it that the government's like, yeah, you know what? Let's give you all the caffeine you want, right? So you work super hard. You dry out because you don't want to heal. We just want you working hard. We don't want you.
00:13:30
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Uh, your body fit. We want your, when you're working hard, but in the evening, you guys are going to have trouble sleeping. So we came up with a product called poison, right? And you, if you take small amounts of that poison, um, it'll help you fall asleep so quick and you wake up at 3 AM every, whatever the time is, it's always the same time. Yeah. And you, that is at that point, the alcohol is out of your system. Yeah.
00:13:56
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And you are basically screwed for the next 72 hours with your body trying to recover from being poisoned.
Dietary Choices and Habits
00:14:04
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Yeah. Yeah. I find myself, man, it's that same same witching hour, right? Three or four o'clock in the morning. I'm up just feeling absolutely like terrible. Right. And it's the same thing every time. Not that I drink often. I don't I don't drink that often anymore. I really cut down. I mean, I didn't drink
00:14:23
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A lot to begin with, right? It was a more of a, you know, social thing, but I cut, I cut down a lot. It's gone to like, uh, almost zero now. Um, but yeah, man, I do remember, I remember very clearly waking up and that was it. I was done, man. And it's super weird when you wake up at that point, because your body is recovering from that, it says, Hey, uh,
00:14:53
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We're trying not to die here. Can you put in copious amounts of sugar? So like after people drink, they normally hit like a, you know, their friends DD'ing and they'll go through a McDonald's drive through, get copious amounts of French fries, or you wake up at three.
00:15:09
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hit a bowl of Cheerios or hit some candy bars, whatever, fall back asleep, have some chocolate milk. It's because your body wants the glucose to store immediately because it thinks that it's going to go in a state that it can't get out of. So it needs to store something to use later while you're, if that happens again, it's very concerned that it won't be able to feed itself. Yeah. That's pretty bad. And
00:15:36
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Yeah, that that's one of the things, man. That's, that's what's been making my health a little more optimal. It's that, it's that, uh, not drinking and moving on from that eating, right. Eating, right. Plays a huge part in mental health and mental development and just cognition all around, right? It just, um, it's just so good. I stopped eating fast food.
00:16:02
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I actually eat fast food. I still eat it once in a while, but not like when I was in my twenties or teens, right? It's a little bit different. I stopped eating it. I maybe will have it once a month. If that I cook at home, I cook healthy and, and I eat healthy. So that's been helping me.
00:16:23
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It just helps me focus, right? It's been helping me feel better. And my skin is radiating. I'm just kidding. That sounds weird. It doesn't dude. Like getting back to the caffeine thing, the first time I went off for, it was like four months. I was driving in my car and I like, I grabbed my bicep, see if I can get those on camera and I flicked it like that. And it had like a ripple and it wasn't fat like from the ripple. It was just so moist and plump. I was like,
00:16:51
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What is with that? It's like because your blood is actually flowing properly. You got cold hands and feet, it's caffeine, other than the fact that most people are working from home in a basement. But they say that's exactly it. If you're looking to optimize the first level, level one of nutrition is don't eat fast food. And it's changes like those.
00:17:16
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that are smart. People think, many people think that they need to go completely keto, vegan, Mediterranean, whatever. No, make small little tiny adjustments. It doesn't have to be cut fast food. It could be something smaller like only fast food on Friday if you've gotten through the week and not had it and that's your cheat day or your cheat weekend.
00:17:41
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No, that makes sense. And speaking of going to the Mediterranean diet, that is my diet. And it's not something that I kind of chose because of, you know, dietary, you know, um, I don't know, whatever, because of dietary benefits, right? I just grew up eating that because I'm Mediterranean culture. So I eat olive oil. I put olive oil on everything. Like I just had the other day, it just,
00:18:08
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like raw garlic on bread with olive oil with fresh bread. And that was my lunch. And I just love it. I grew up eating that stuff. And yeah, I just love eating that. And I don't, yeah, the fast food man cut, like you said, cut it out.
00:18:26
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Um, yeah, reduce your meat consumption is another one eating meat. Like this is just me. I don't know. Everybody has different opinions on diets. I know there's not keto diet. There's a carnivore diet, right? Right. What is it called? The paleo diet.
00:18:42
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And that is just about eating natural foods, including, you know, meat, a lot of meat. Yeah. And they have high protein diets, but I think meat, reducing meat consumption will increase your lifespan. For sure. Yeah. Yeah. So I had a brief stint in, uh, I was going to say cannibalism, but probably not like if you guys are looking to optimize your,
00:19:07
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your health, eat your neighbor, blame it on the other neighbor across from you, the one you don't like, is carnivore diet, two months of that, and lost like 10 pounds, right? Right now, like my weight, because I'm trying to optimize it for skateboarding, get very low BMI, because when I jump downstairs, I don't want my knees to feel like, you know, an old man's knees, right? And like just basically,
00:19:36
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It was like, you know, working and then, oh, a little bit hungry. Go up, eat a piece of chicken breast, just a little hunk and then and then go back down and work every time that there is a glimpse of hunger. You just pop a not not like a breaded chicken nugget, like a, you know, a clean
00:19:54
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you know, baked chicken breast or barbecued chicken breast, right? No seasoning, all that stuff,
The Benefits of Fasting
00:19:59
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maybe a little salt and just to take away the hunger. So lost a ton of weight. But then as soon as I would go skateboarding or do any cardio.
00:20:08
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I almost went into cardiac, it felt like cardiac, there was a problem with my heart because it was going so crazy. I was getting dizzy. Then I realized you need to like replenish your glycogen stores when you're doing anything like aerobic like that. So you need to have carbohydrates.
00:20:29
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So, what I ended up doing, my current diet is very Mediterranean, more leaning on to more carnivore, but before I go do anything,
00:20:40
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um, like skateboarding, I'll have some bread, some like peanut butter before I go. But other than that, I'll probably not have any breads. And then when I come back, um, like a post-workout meal or whatever, like, uh, just before bed as a sleep aid, I will have maybe more bread than I, or more oatmeal, more bread than I would typically throughout the day. But like normally my wake up is,
00:21:07
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Um, nothing until dinner. So that's a, whatever once, I don't know, once a day or 16, eight. Yeah. And then in the evenings it's, you know, carbohydrates and a break on, um, avocado. So, you know, if, if every day you have, um, if every day you have a dinner, but you don't have breakfast and lunch, um, during that fast, um,
00:21:36
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You can trick your body, and this is like a tip from Thomas Dooler, which works, like works for me, is before your meal at dinner, you have like an avocado, you put a little MCT oil and maybe a little salt, and you eat that maybe 10 minutes before your dinner. It's important that the first, there is a bad way to break your fast.
00:22:01
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If you broke a 24 hour fast on, um, carbohydrates, like consider it not a waste of time, but it's, it's not good for you. Um, when you break it on fats, your, it sends a signal to your, you know, your gut brain access that says, Hey, uh, just want to let you know that we're currently starving. We're getting the signal here that we need to burn fat stores.
Exploring Brown Fat
00:22:25
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Yeah. It's kind of tricks your body, right? Right. Kind of like primes the pump.
00:22:31
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00:22:51
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00:23:11
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The next day, if I do that religiously, I'll be down one or two pounds on the scale. Yeah. But if I broke on carbohydrates or something, consider it like up one or net neutral. Right. Right.
The Role of Vitamin D
00:23:24
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No, you know, um, I, um, I just, I don't actually put a whole lot of thought into, into diets. I don't typically fast, but I don't eat breakfast either. I typically eat it like around 11 30 and then dinner. So two meals a day.
00:23:42
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Um, that's just cause my body's used to that since I was young, but I don't consider, I don't have any considerations for, for diets. Right. Um, that being said, I do, like I said, I restrict my, my meat and I feel so good eating, eating meat, like, you know, two days a week, say three days a week, and then just having whatever else in between. Um, I was going to bring up something. Yeah. So.
Key Health Practices Recap
00:24:11
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I can't remember what it was. Maybe it'll, maybe it'll process, you know, like a SQL query will process in 30 minutes. What do you do for protein then? What do I do for protein? Or oatmeal, or like, if you're not having, you know? Yeah, no, I don't, I don't really think about what I do for protein or if I need protein, right? I just will eat,
00:24:39
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I just reduce my meat intake, but I don't consider because I'm not bodybuilding, right? So I don't need a count of protein per day. So does it matter if I have whatever today that's less protein rich than something else? It doesn't really matter to me because I'm not looking to build my muscle. Yeah, for sure. You don't need to be a bodybuilder or doing any sports at all to know that the body needs protein to function optimally.
00:25:08
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But you're kind of hinting at something that is a plague on society for the most part is people will make small little minor changes to their health, either vitamin or a nutrition diet exercise, and they won't go get blood work, right? We just operate in this bubble where we pop some kind of vitamin and we think that'll solve it, but we don't measure it. So that is one thing I know with Paulina we talked about is
00:25:36
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Um, go every two weeks, whatever you can, like getting a reoccurring thing from your doctor to just go. Um, and then start making minor adjustments. Right. And you're just trying to, you're not trying to become super physiological. You're just simply trying to optimize all levels. Right. You know what, what I found is that, uh, my body and my body specifically tells me when.
00:26:05
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when I'm hungry and tells me what I'm lacking. And I said, this may sound kind of kind of helpful, but when my body's craving like fruits and vegetables, I don't deny, I'll get the fruits and vegetables and eat them. Right. And if my body's craving, but it's, it's been like this forever, man. Um, that's why I'm restricting my meat. It wasn't something that I woke up and said, I'm going to restrict, I'm going to eat meat on Wednesdays and Saturdays and not eat
00:26:35
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anything else. It's basically my body craves meat at certain times, yeah, automatically. And I'll have meat today. And with the exception of Fridays, because I don't eat meat on Fridays.
00:26:49
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I will, at that point, restrict. If I'm feeling like I wanna steak on a Friday, I'll have something else. I'll have fish or whatever, right? But aside from that, if I'm feeling like eating meat on Saturday, I'll eat it. But then I won't feel like eating it on Sunday or Monday, but I may have it on Wednesday. My body's telling me to do this. It's craving these things, right? And same with the fruits and vegetables. I'm craving grapes, kiwis, mangoes, and broccoli.
00:27:18
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My body's craving it, so I'll go and have it. I don't crave McDonald's fries, I don't crave Big Mac, I don't crave that stuff, right? So there's nothing obstructing me from craving good, healthy food because I don't crave the crap. The bad stuff, yeah.
00:27:34
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Right. Um, yeah. And, and further to that, what I can offer in terms of some kind of, um, hack is don't eat until you're full. Always leave something on the plate. Always leave a little bit on the plate to remind yourself that we shouldn't be eating till we, till we, we explode. Right. So we're too full. Just eat enough to not be full, but not be hungry. Find that balance that that's my, my hack.
00:28:04
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Yeah. And there is something to be said about young entrepreneurs are hungry or whatnot. If they were full, like, you know, if they're a fat cat or whatever, they're not hungry, right? Right. Oh, why does that, why does he have ambition? Why does, uh, why does he want to do that? It's because he's hungry. So, um, you know, you have lunch, right? Uh, you know, Dimitri has lunch, you know, like, uh, you, we went for lunch a lot, you know, like.
00:28:34
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There is so for me personally, um, you probably tried it. Like you tried skipping lunch and went right to dinner, like do on a work day. Yes. Yeah. It's very difficult. Very difficult. Even if you have a coffee at lunch to like fill your belly with something.
00:28:49
Speaker
It's still hard, man. Because then you get brain fog, right? Well, I get brain fog. Yes, you do. You absolutely do. But there's a point that the brain fog is like, let's say four hours, or it's different for everyone, first off. But once you pass that, because you think when you're in it, it will never solve itself without food. And you think when you're in it that the brain fog will never go away.
00:29:15
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After the four hours or whatever, it just becomes mental clarity, wakefulness without caffeine, and so on and so forth. I do it just so during business hours or the nine to five hours. I guess most like neutropically mentally peak to be able to talk to clients, customers, partners, employees, consultants, anyone that needs help with anything.
00:29:45
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Um, it also helps with social media videos to be able to straight off the dome kind of stuff like that. Um, yeah, it is constant pain and it hurts so bad and you almost have to come to accept that you are in your belly is in constant pain and it feels like it's eating itself from the, what kind of is, because you know, it'll produce more gastric ends, you know, juices, which is acid.
00:30:13
Speaker
And it does go away. And there is a like overcast guy that becomes slowly more sunny. Right. And my longest dude was 72 hours. Wow. And that's a long time. Everyone's going for lunch like, oh, they eat. They eat. You stop thinking about hunger the same way when you get an electric car. You can't see gas stations when you drive.
00:30:42
Speaker
They're just irrelevant to you. Gas prices, whatever, it doesn't matter. They're invisible. Same way that you, oh, people are eating. No, no, no, I don't eat. Can you imagine? And the cost savings on fasting is astronomical, right? Yeah. Who knew all you had to do was nothing to become everything? Right.
00:31:06
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fasting is pretty damn awesome. Even fasting during cardio is very good.
00:31:14
Speaker
is it? Yes. Did I tell you about Raoul sign? Yeah, I did the, so it's from Derek, more plates, more dates company, Gorilla mind. And it's one of the, I guess, 10 things that you can't buy in Canada. So when we get it, we ship it to connect, which is a, you know, post office there. And then we,
00:31:37
Speaker
you know, quote unquote, you know, bring it in, bring it back. And it's a, I believe it's a bark from an African tree. So it's like completely just out there. And it's a
00:31:55
Speaker
adrenaline agonist or anti agonist kind of like coffee. Yeah. However, coffee is a 12 hour half life. So everyone, anyone listening, well, first off, really, what time do you want to go to bed at?
00:32:11
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10 PM. So your last coffee of the day should be 10 AM. So coffee is out of your system because it has a half life of 12 hours, right? Or six hours, because the half life I believe is like a curve, right? So the half point is like six and the down is six, so 12. So it's out of your body for the most part after 12 hours. So a Raoul sign or that African tree bark is like coffee, right?
00:32:38
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But unlike coffee, it is a vasodilator. So you start getting warm and sweaty and the half-life of it. So just as alert as caffeine, the half-life of it is two hours. Can you imagine if you had a coffee at 6 PM
00:32:58
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And you could fall asleep like a baby at 10. That's what that would be nice. But the problem is that stuff probably doesn't taste or smell like coffee.
00:33:11
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Correct. Yes. And dude, have you ever tried to have, uh, I was going to say diet coffee. Have you ever had a decaffeinated or salt water or sorry? Um, Swiss water process decaffeinated coffee? No, no, I have not. I have not tried decaffeinated coffee. Um, I don't know if I want to, um, but have you tried,
00:33:33
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Barley drink. No. Is that barley as in a beer barley? Yeah, it's barley. It's the same barley and you can buy it at any store here. Coffee shops. Sorry, any like 14os or sobies. Yeah. It's made by Nestle. It's called a
00:33:50
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I can't remember what it's called, pencil or something, but it's made out of barley and it's a coffee substitute, man. That has a phenomenal taste and if you want to sleep, man, that'll put you out for sure. Really? I have to check that out. Yeah, check it out, man. You should taste it. I actually have a couple of jars. Yeah. Can you bring it over? Is it like moonshine?
00:34:16
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Yeah, I wish. No, it's not. Cool. Yeah. It's in a jar. Yeah, it's in a jar, man. It's like a coffee jar. It looks like a coffee jar. Cool. Yeah, man. Yeah, I'll bring it over, man. You can taste it. Maybe I'll give you a capsule of the Raoul sign, which is from Derek's company. Yeah. And the only thing I will say is
00:34:40
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00:35:07
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People that don't have this issue for an hour, you'll be like, Oh, damn it. And as soon as it passes, it's like, it's like the clouds part. And then God's like, Hey man. And you're just flying in terms of, uh, feeling good, you know, warm, all that stuff. I got it because of the.
00:35:24
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cold hand issue in the basement and it did help, but even the treadmill underneath my desk, which I end up walking 10K a day, like it's a standing desk and I put like, you know, I got that to warm my body and none of them really worked.
00:35:46
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But this is, I say that this so far has been the thing that I'm focused on right now is the cold hands and feet. And yes, eliminating coffee helps. Um, but a lot of people are probably dealing with this, especially work from home because your hands are always up here. So your blood flow absolutely sucks. They're not at your, you know, wayside and, um,
00:36:09
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the exacerbation of this is Reynolds syndrome or when you like, you know, you see like photos of hands and feet where it's like all white here. You see that now just like slowly returned like that. Yeah. If you did that, it probably wouldn't return. They would probably return, you know, faster, right? Cause I feel like you're pretty warm. Um, yeah, I'm not that cold here and then I'm going to have a heater under my desk. So,
00:36:36
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So apparently humans, for the most part, for the most of like their existence weren't wearing clothes, right? Maybe the winter came and they had to like.
00:36:46
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put some fur on their back. But there's this thing called brown fat, right? Which is the fat that keeps you warm. Like why poor bears are, why is that skinny thing out there like that deer or that elk that's super lean? Like it doesn't need like a rock aware parka. You know what I mean? It's because it has a lot. Yes. Brown fat and how you cultivate brown fat is
00:37:11
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ice baths like the Joe Rogan ice bath. But for me, that's a little too much. What I've been doing is I got two buckets and I fill them up with pure ice and I'll plunge both my hands into them. And it's the most excruciating pain ever. And I just do that every couple of days. And I've noticed that slowly my hands are warm on their own.
00:37:33
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And the reason is, is because the humans are saying, oh, you don't need to heat yourself. You'll get a blanket. And the body's like, no, no, no, listen, the way that I evolved for the past, you know, millennia or whatever is
00:37:49
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I need to be exposed to things to generate, to know that I, because if your hands, if your, if your arms right now, really, let's say you always wear long sleeve, if your arms get the signal that, Oh, uh, my baseline level of heat that I need to typically produce.
00:38:06
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is X, then it will. Because it always has clothing. So, you know, walk around naked in your house as much as you can, you know, without, you know, making the neighbors jealous. But it's very important to expose yourself to without putting yourself in a health risk, but experiencing cold.
00:38:29
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Yeah. Your body will never learn to heat itself. If you're always got a sweater on a blanket heater slippers, the heater, um, your body wants to work without things. Take away your things and your body works on its own. Right. Right. Now that makes a whole lot of sense, man. For sure. I like that. Um, yeah, I didn't know about the brown fat thing that that's new to me.
00:38:53
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Um, so humans have brown fat. Yes. And we need to cultivate it. Interesting. Okay. Yeah. There's like three different types of, it was on an Andrew Huberman podcast, which his, his podcasts aren't really podcasts. It's more of like a statement of all of the research of his lab and his teams of here's the current lay of the lands for this topic. Right. And it is.
00:39:17
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for the most part efficaciously, you're probably 98%. There is probably something that over time he said, okay, we corrected this and that, but it is the most accurate we have between people like Vigar Steve and Derek and Andrew Huberman. And there's a bunch of other people, knees over toes for a
00:39:42
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a body movement or mechanics perspective. He's incredible. Like if you want to learn how to dunk a basketball and you're let's say 60 and you've never played or you're 50, check out Knees Over Toes on social media. He is changing the game in terms of
00:40:02
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He was like, he went to, I don't know if he went to the school or whatever, but he mentioned that the current like physical therapy or body health kinesiology universities, they're not actually teaching the newer, it's the same thing. If you're a computer scientist, you go to university and they're like teaching Java or whatever.
00:40:23
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They're not teaching Azure bicep scripts or YAML or whatever. They're behind the times. They're behind the times. He said, all right, fine. I'll just do my own thing. He basically just took off like that. Now he's well known. The stuff that he's done, especially help skateboarders, if you want to be able to jump,
00:40:44
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Yeah. Skateboarding. What other sports don't jump? I mean, there's probably some of them. I mean, cycling might not, but I would argue that anything, if you just only watched him and did everything he said.
00:40:57
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I would say that your whole body would improve so much more than anything else. Maybe yoga is, is good for flexibility and all that stuff. Yeah. Do you do any of that stuff? Or like, I feel like I've been meaning to, but like just sit in front of the TV and like do yoga or do you? And that's not for you, man. That's I don't, I don't really need to work on my flexibility. Um, what I do need to do is start working out and getting my cardio.
00:41:25
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exercises in, but yeah, I don't need, I don't need that flexibility. I need to bend over backwards. It's just not something useful for me. Yeah. I mean, once you can put your knees behind your ears, um, you pretty much don't have to leave the house.
00:41:39
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Um, but I will say that the treadmill under the desk, um, and walking the 10 K a day, um, you get like, even from Ikea, um, in Canada, like a lot of people from the U S come to Canada, you know, in Burlington for, I guess it's one of the closest Ikeas for even the U S in that area. So they have like the legs he could just add.
00:42:04
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Actually, now it's probably more prevalent. You can just buy legs on Amazon. You can pick any tabletop you want, like a beautiful butcher block or whatever your wife signs off of, because generally she's got better design sense than every heterosexual monogamous male. And you just raise it. I'll raise mine for a second. It's pneumatic.
00:42:27
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Like the IKEA ones have like Bluetooth, which is pretty obnoxious if you think about it. But whatever. And then you put the treadmill under and then you just go, right? You leave up your treadmill. Yeah. For sure. I need to get my cardio up and that's the best way, man. What better way than having it right under your desk where you're kind of
00:42:47
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you know, where you can push yourself, right? Exactly. If I have to drop everything and go to my garage and start my cardio, it's a little bit more, it's a little more difficult, right? And you always find excuses not to go, but if it's right here under my desk, there is no excuse, man. So yeah, that's a great idea, man. You know what I've been reading about a lot recently, the cancerous effects of alcohol. And apparently it's causing, and a lot of people don't talk about this, especially obviously, you know,
00:43:16
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mainstream media and, you know, lobbyist companies that lobby to the media. They don't talk about the cancerous effects.
00:43:25
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on the body, stomach cancer, colon, breast cancer for women because of alcohol, right? There have been studies that have shown that it does actually cause cancer, man, but you don't hear about this. Yeah, like I never heard about that, but it makes complete sense. If you think about it, because cancer is not curable because it's a great product and people can make tons of money off of it, right? Granted, there has been progression.
00:43:52
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But let's not like there's going to be a news thing that has come out like, Oh, we got the cure. We're good. Right. It's essentially because, you know, again, going back to, you know, divide and conquer through government, whatever, like you make them super caffeinated to work super hard during the day, you poison them at night. Then when they get cancer and diabetes, you say we have a revolutionary new drug, but it's going to cost you tons of money, like thousand bucks a month for injections, whatever it is. Now it's a product.
00:44:21
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Now, that whole loop of high efficiency employees that poison themselves, and then we have a product to fix that, it's a whole government racket. You know what I mean? That wheel. People need to wake up. They need to put a treadmill underneath their desk. They need to step away. They need to deliberately leave, choose their family and friends over all of that work stuff. If your boss is treating you like a pile of garbage,
00:44:51
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leave the company, find something else. More mental health and wellness is good. You need that. And stop the substance abuses. Yes. Cut out all of that. At the bare minimum, cut out all alcohol. It should never have been legalized to begin with. Well, yeah.
00:45:11
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Yes and no. I mean, there's this whole thing where have you seen that one meme where it's like alcoholic societies and it's like this huge...
00:45:21
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Empire. And then you see, you know, marijuana societies and it's just kind of like people living in grass. No, it's like a meme. Yeah, it's a meme. Yeah. It's like, yeah, stoners don't get anything done, right? That's the stereotype in alcoholic societies. Obviously, you know, look at the world, right? In the alcoholic societies. But yeah, man. Yeah.
00:45:45
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Was there a need for it at some point? Absolutely. Are we smart enough now to know not to consume it in the vast quantities? Absolutely. Yes.
00:45:57
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I really hope it becomes like with cigarettes on airplanes and cigarettes inside where it just, uh, our kids are like grown up and they're like, can you believe that? Like, like everyone, like 20 years ago were poisoning themselves and drinking, um, caffeine. Um, getting back to caffeine of why, why is that a poison is because, so, um, the, the coffee bean, right? Yeah. Um, it, um,
00:46:25
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over the years, genetically, it produced a pesticide around it because it kept getting eaten and it wanted to hurt the things that were eating it. But humans, they're like, oh, small doses of poison. Ooh, that's a product, right?
00:46:44
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Um, it, the reason why it in the morning, we flush our systems, we take a dump right away in the morning, or we take it to diuretic is because your body knows that it's toxic and it wants it out. It's like, Oh, shoot, shoot, shoot. That's a pesticide. Get it out. Yeah. But that is the writing is on the wall.
00:47:07
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And the main problem is it's good. Everyone like, I like coffee. Like I like having a drink. It's genuinely enjoyable. That's the problem. And that's the loop. To each their own, people don't have to do it. But some people, including myself, you know, hypocritically, but you know, I do have, you know, I've gone on and off caffeine and like people are like, why are you stopping caffeine? Why are you not looking at like a weirdo?
00:47:37
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Some people will choose and say, you know what? Yeah, it's enjoyable, but I kind of want to be a better father, kind of want to be a better friend, a better neighbor. I want to have better sleep. I want to be there for my grandchildren, right? Everything within moderation. The problem with alcohol and coffee and caffeine is it's unmoderatable due to the dependency it causes. Right. Well, alcohol is unmoderatable. I'll tell you, once you have one,
00:48:06
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you'll want two. And you know what happens with two? You'll want three, four, five, six. Once you're at six, you don't care anymore. Give me the bottle. You know, that is because, well, one of the reasons is because it's tricking you to think that
00:48:22
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It's a dehydrator, just like caffeine is. Let's say you have a shot of whiskey and that blood sugar alcohol level, that first inertia or that euphoria hits and you're like, oh yeah, I needed that, right?
00:48:39
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all of a sudden dry mouth and you're thirsty and the brain's dumb or the brief, whatever happens, you're like, Oh shoot, I'm thirsty. Might as well have more. And the more you drink, because, because it's a dehydrator, the more you want to drink. So that example you gave is, uh, partially because of dehydration. Yeah. You want to hear some, something interesting. I did. I didn't know, um, that I learned recently is that coffee is a cherry.
00:49:08
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I did not know that. Yeah. I, uh, didn't know either until, uh, yeah. What defines a cherry? I have no idea. So it's part of that genius or that whole family of cherries. That's what I think. Yeah. I mean, I read that somewhere. I can't, maybe I should look it up. Maybe I should have looked at it before I said anything. No, no, it makes sense. Like you wouldn't fabricate that.
00:49:33
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Two minutes later. Sorry, Ru, you'd like to apologize for fabricating the cherry story. No, but yeah, it makes sense. Okay, here it is. The beans you brew are actually the processed and roasted seeds from a fruit, which is called a coffee cherry. Coffee cherry's outer skin is called the exocarp. So yeah, is it part of the cherry family?
00:50:02
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I don't know. It's referred to as a cherry. You know, one of those posts where it's like, uh, coffee is actually a cherry and not a bean. Yeah. Yeah. It's like the TLDR is the attention grabbing, like. Yeah, exactly. It's like coffee kills millions. And then you read the story, you're like, it just like was a long life of people doing a bunch of bad stuff. Coffee wasn't to blame. Coffee killed millions of ants.
00:50:38
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That one story that Jamie gave, remember? He's like, all you have to do is just pour a bunch of baking soda and some sugar and stuff and have them eat it. They'll bring it back to their hive and then they'll feed it to the queen and then they'll explode. The best story ever, man, I miss him like a brother and
00:51:00
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I, um, he wouldn't, he would never listen to this stuff, but like, if he was listening, dude, man, like, I love you, man. I'm going to give you a call and you're going to ignore it, but that's okay. I know you're too good for me. Um, but I do look up to you as a mentor, um, regardless of, you know, whatever, you're just a cool dude. Um, Jamie, love you. Um, he's in Milton too. I'm not sure if he still is, but you talk, right? Yeah. Yeah. Still talk to him. Yeah. Okay. I love that guy.
00:51:25
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He lives in Milton, right? He could be your neighbor, man. You don't know. No, I know where he lives because I stalk him. No, I'm just kidding. I know where he lives because I think I had to pick up something, drop something off. I can't remember.
00:51:36
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Nice. Yeah. Yeah, man. So yeah, back to the alcohol. Yeah. Don't do it. Eat good. Don't do it. Eat a lot of fish. Reduce your meat consumption. Stop drinking alcohol. Reduce your coffee. Don't have coffee after whatever o'clock because of the half-life of 12 hours. Yeah. Yeah. Just refer back to
00:51:57
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podcast at about 35 minutes and you'll know all of that. Um, Logan, anything else you want to, you want to bring up before we. Yes. Close it out. It's like a baby and head out. Like a tree and leave, make like a dog and bark, like a rowl sign African tree. Um, yes. Um,
00:52:21
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Sometimes people will, in the winter, go on antidepressants because they're sad. Well, they could kind of have serotonin levels that are out of whack. Even if you're on SSRIs like Alexa or whatever it is, you need to be having a blanket statement to the world. You need to be having vitamin D. If you're having even just 1,000 UI a day,
00:52:49
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Yes. In the summer as well. Don't think that, Oh, the sun's out. No, you're still sitting behind a desk. You're indoors. You're not naked outside. Like prehistorically we were right. Cause the skin is a sponge for the light and it basically the vitamin D like the sun hits it gets all that serotonin. And at the end of the day, converge to melatonin to help you sleep. Don't take exogenous melatonin before bed.
00:53:17
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take 1,000 or ideally 5,000 UI vitamin D. Obviously, talk to your doctor before doing that, but at least for everyone, like something, even kids. They have vitamin D gummies that are Sesame Street. I think they have 400 recommended doses too, so that's pretty close to 1,000.
00:53:39
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Obviously, don't stop taking your SSRIs or anything like that, but I will say the quality of your life, think about it, we're not supposed to be inside. The quality of your life that will improve by simply taking vitamin D should not be understated.
00:53:55
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That was my last one. Yeah, it's important. Vitamin D. That's good, man. That's good. That's a good last words for sure. What about you? I thought I said my last words, but that's okay. I can say some more. All right. I could drop another one. Yeah. So three things to keep in mind for a nice
00:54:17
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a nice day or for feeling good throughout the day for feeling good throughout your life, throughout the week, three things to keep is or three things to do or to practice is eating right, sleeping right and having sex. No way. I take that back. No, no, we get it. Yeah. Take that one back. No, actually, you know what? Let's keep that in.
00:54:41
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That's a bonus or a boner. That's a bonus. In all honesty, jokes aside, eating right, sleeping right, and everything in moderation, that is the key. That is the key to...
00:55:16
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Um, Hayden or, or Josh to come up with a, uh, like a meme photo for every podcast where it's a quote from you. Um, that was, that was, uh, don't eliminate limit. Yeah. Perfect. Thank you, Ruby. No problem. Have a great day. You too.
00:55:19
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to a good health.