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Speaker: This is the Garage Avenger Podcast.
Speaker: I like how we're doing the head pop like Indians. oh yeah <unk>
Speaker: Welcome to the Garage Avenger Podcast. I'm Justin trying to share the joy of building my death machines in my garage in the hope that one day I'll be making a living off it.
Speaker: And I'm cured, pretending to turn my garage-based beers into a world-renowned Broadway. Pretending? Fuck you.
Speaker: um Yeah, why do you tell me this, Wapai? Because i couldn't but I couldn't resist. Well, we're twin brothers with a passion for fucking up this intro.
Speaker: Creating the wild and unexpected, taking you on a journey through the ridiculousness of our everyday lives in our garages. Welcome! Welcome, people.
Speaker: Uh, Kieran? Yeah? Should we just get straight into this? ah Into what? Are you ready? um ah ah You tell me. know i don't know if I'm ready. Let's do this. Okay.
Speaker: Oh, no. put the wrong one in.
Speaker: All right, let me, hold on, hold on. I'm going to have to re-edit this. i've I somehow put it. Redo the podcast, Justin. ah No, hold on. look This is happening.
Speaker: This is happening. I can't go past this without doing this. And it's real bad, just so you know, listeners. ah So, hold on. Yeah.
Speaker: Well, now I'm kind of like a little bit like the surprise is ruined. i know. Maybe we could just re-edit that in and it'll be fine.
Speaker: Okay.
Speaker: No, no.
Speaker: i love a little video, Michael. but Before you lose your shit, Karen, this is going to make your ears bleed. right, you ready? Here we go.
Speaker: Here we go. Ready?
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Speaker: Ready? Shut up, Steve! What's with the radio? It sounded better than the horrible singing that I was coming out with. Oh, that was terrible. Oh, my God.
Speaker: Somewhere there's a music producer listening to this is going, why? why John, if you're listening, sorry. yeah I'm not sorry. You've got to put these things out.
Speaker: Yeah, well, John, if you want to like put together a nice little jingle for us for that segment, that'd be great. Yeah, that'd be awesome. We have a good friend, John Reichart. Shout out John Reichart, music producer extraordinaire and good friend.
Speaker: yeah Yeah. What? i Yeah, what's your 9am beer, Gary? 9am beer is my own beer today. o um To celebrate the release of Cryo Jesus to Bestilling Zudvalk.
Speaker: I thought I'd drink it myself. So, there we go, Cryo Jesus, my double India pale ale.
Speaker: Oh, yeah. Mmm.
Speaker: I do. um is it Is it bad that I enjoy my own beer? No, it's very good. I mean, if you can't enjoy your own beer, what's the point in selling it to other people? Yeah. So, ah yeah, this is Cryo Jesus Double IPA 7.7%, 777 for those who understand the reference there. um Yeah, it's a cryo hopped, which means like the stronger hop kind of thing.
Speaker: Yeah. Double IPA and
Speaker: tastes delicious.
Speaker: You know what I have? What do you have, Justin? First out, I just have to shout out my wife, Kristen, because she said to me yesterday, think it was, she's like, ah yeah, so just so you know, ah in the fridge, there's a couple of beers for you for your podcast.
Speaker: Oh, sweet. I was like, what? I was going to scrounge to the bottom of the shelves and find a beer that's out of date. And then she's like, she's bought me some stuff. Now, say What has she bought?
Speaker: Yeah, that's that's the next problem. She bought a Calcutta. Betrayal! this IBA from Hognabrig.
Speaker: ah I don't even know this. i mean the bret yeah yeah well i mean Tell me a little bit about it, Kieran, because I don't know anything about this. it wasn't a betrayal of the beer. was more a betrayal of the the sister-in-law doesn't even buy my beer.
Speaker: I know, right? and I actually don't know very much about that brewery at all. Well, I think they're Norwegian. Yeah, I think so too. Yeah? Yeah.
Speaker: ah Because everything's written in Norwegian on the back here. There's no English word at all. no
Speaker: No. It's a 4.7. Keeping the people in anticipation. Yeah, let's ah let's get it out of the can and into the glass. Yeah. Oh, Jesus. That was a big bit of head.
Speaker: What are you getting on that one, Jess?
Speaker: You know what? It feels like... It feels like a draft beer mixed with a... Or the hoppy beer. Kind of like a lame-ass hoppy beer, basically.
Speaker: Yeah. yeah it's ah So for me, it's like it's got these undertones of like ah of a Session Ypres, I guess.
Speaker: But ah it's it's got this first malt-forward taste when you first get it in your palate. Might just be an old IPA. i don't know. ah Hold on. Let's have a look at the date.
Speaker: ah Best before March 28th. So is getting a bit old. Yeah, probably a bit old. So that'll probably do it. But um yeah, I mean, enjoyable brew.
Speaker: It's okay. Yeah. I wouldn't write home about it. Peaches and mango. Just blow your own trumpet, yeah.
Speaker: what has been happening this week, Kieran? What's Um, well, there's been kind of a lot of nothing in many ways.
Speaker: Um, sounds like a productive thriving business, Karen. Oh, that's another, yeah Rabbit hole to go down. um alright So I canned some beards this week.
Speaker: I canned Holy Ghost and and did I even canned the sour ah this week as well. So there's some some basil lemon sour, which I think taste-wise is doing really well. It's still got it like when it fizzes up and you get the first aroma out of the glass, it It still smells a bit funky.
Speaker: No, I'm not super pleased with that. But I think the flavor profile, other than the fact that I think it's too mild, like sourness, it should be like a like more tart.
Speaker: I think... It's got a lot of promise. So it's worth revisiting that brew at some stage and tweaking it. So that's that's good. And the Holy Ghost, i added I did the manual adding of chili extracts to each can for the for these test brews.
Speaker: And um it's not the same.
Speaker: It's not the same. Do you think it's the chili extract that you've made? i think that it's actually change water profile that I used. to Okay, that's interesting. Explain.
Speaker: Because I went for a more balanced water profile on this test batch. and ma Because I was a little concerned about like the bitterness.
Speaker: Even though the last one was good, like I was a little concerned that the bitterness was like maybe too harsh. And as a result, like maybe some people wouldn't like it And so I thought, well, if I if i change the water profile from this high sulfite thing that accentuates dryness and bitterness, um you maybe it'll be more enjoyable.
Speaker: But an interesting thing, and this is like the serendipitous nature of reality sometimes, I was talking to a friend of mine who's making chili sauces. Nathan, if you shout out to Nathan.
Speaker: um And he was talking to me about this chili sauce that he made, do he which he gave me some to try. And it was quite sweet. And he said, ah I don't like that it's so sweet because you get the heat straight up front a and when it's sweet.
Speaker: But when it's um when it's dry, like savory, the heat comes after. So with with ah really spicy, sweet stuff, you generally feel the heat on the front of your mouth.
Speaker: And with the savory stuff, you tend to feel it on the back. And then I realized, like, that's what I'm experiencing now with this beer. It's like the heat's more on the front than it ever was before.
Speaker: Yeah, yeah, because i that's what I liked about the the batch I've tasted is when you s swallow – you got a West Coast Ipa when you were drinking it. Yeah.
Speaker: On the palate. With bit of chili flavor. With a bit of chili flavor, yeah. And then when you when you swallowed it, it was like a warm hug down your throat. yeah Yeah, right?
Speaker: So then I just realized like that's the that's the problem. I've got to go back to the dry sulfite water profile. Yeah. So to try and accept like get the chili balance back in in place.
Speaker: so It's a little complicated, isn't it? It's a little. Yeah, it's it's science. and So, yeah. yeah So that was a kind of good good little experiment to learn from this this week.
Speaker: And, you know, really, yeah. so things moving forward. um I'm going to do some more test batches in the coming weeks as well. So this um lemon, lime, coconut thing, I'm going to give that a crack and see how that turns out. And then, yeah, there's heaps of stuff that could do.
Speaker: and ah got a message this week and I thought that was it was worth sharing. So it was from this guy, Thomas, shout out to Thomas. Um, what's his Instagram profile here? If he doesn't mind me sharing it. Um, Vekstead's log book.
Speaker: Yeah. At Instagram. ah And he sent me a message to say he would like to support ah a Patreon. So he's number two. I still need three more.
Speaker: But he made an interesting point. He said, first of all, one of the reasons he didn't but he didn't get straight on to this was, one, he was listening whilst he was driving.
Speaker: So he couldn't, like, text and drive. Fair enough. But then the second he said, which is the interesting thing, is that the second reason he didn't just send a message right away is because of the Jontorovn topic that we spent time on last week.
Speaker: Explain. Well, he says, ah to quote him, who am i to claim this free beer? Wow. Yeah. Really interesting.
Speaker: Like, and in brackets, like some noisy American. Wow. I didn't think about that, but that's so true. and um And he also writes that he assumes that they would like some feedback on those beers.
Speaker: But then again, who am I to have an opinion? I'm not an expert.
Speaker: Oh, so interesting. Yeah. This culture is fucked up. Sorry. Sorry. is I get it, though. I get it because it's so interesting that that's... And unfortunately, that's how people are here.
Speaker: Yeah. So I just realized, like, okay, this guy he wants he wants free beer, but he won't allow himself to take it.
Speaker: That's...
Speaker: basically what you're saying is you should just ask for money and give nothing to Norwegians and they'd just be happy to do so. Well, that's what they used to just giving fuck tons of money away for nothing. and That's true. so anyway, yeah. So anyway, he actually thanks me for challenging his Norwegian mindset.
Speaker: Wow. So high fives to you and me, Just, for rocking the boat. ah I mean, I hope someone else got something out of the, lot especially last week. if you haven't listened to last week's podcast, jump on, get on it.
Speaker: um But, yeah, really fascinating. so He makes a really good point, right? He makes a really good point. Like to support people.
Speaker: And then it have like an expectation that you like have um something in return or you must deliver something in return, like ah an opinion on something.
Speaker: Like it's insane. So people would think that's a problem. Yeah. And but I would argue, why is that an issue? Yeah. Right. Yeah. Why is giving your opinion? Even if it's like,
Speaker: Non-educated. Like the reality is, is that there are the vast majority of beer drinkers in the world are non-educated. Correct. And so that's that's actually probably more important. And that's what I wrote to him.
Speaker: It's probably more more important to get the opinion of a non-educated person. on the beer then ah than an educated person because ultimately they're the ones selling, like buying the product.
Speaker: You know, I'm selling the product to them. So yeah, that was a really fascinating development this week. So there you go. Well, I mean, talking about patron, I want to use that opportunity now to thank my patrons. ah Thank you to my top tier heroes, Stan Serhus, Thomas Buckner, Mark Foster, Janis Klemps, Ulla Skitterin, Arthur Midgard,
Speaker: president the Swedish maker, ah Mark Jones. And a massive shout out to the crazy sidekicks that I have on board. ah Arna,
Speaker: ah Sylvester, and Thomas. Thank you so, ja so much. Absolute legends. ah with Like I said last week, without their support, I can't do this podcast.
Speaker: I can't buy random small things that I need for my projects. Really, really, really appreciate you guys. And again, if you guys want to support what I'm doing, I've got actually a lot of feedback this week from people just saying, keep on going. I got a lovely message from Jürgen Stray. Um,
Speaker: Just basically just saying, keep on going. You got this. i'm The only person I know, the you know you've you're so dedicated to this. like Just keep on going. so i I'm paraphrasing, of course, but he said much lovelier words than that.
Speaker: down powerphrasing Yeah. Down Yeah, But yeah, ah thank you for everyone that supports me. And I am still going and I will eventually make a living from this. And I'll do so with the support of you guys.
Speaker: And I'm so grateful for you. So thank you. Awesome. ah But what else has been happening, Kieran? You've been brewing beers and coming up with new ideas. like how's the how You've just now moved your beers to a different, like um what do you call it? Bestillings Udvalk, was it? Yeah, it's a different category at the Wine Monopoly.
Speaker: Cryo Jesus, say there has been a big uptick in Cryo Jesus. so that I've only got like less than 200 cans left. So that's good.
Speaker: That's pretty good. So if you're listening out there and you're like, oh ah that cryo-jesus, that mango peach deliciousness. look and That is much, much better than the Calcutta Session IPA. That cryo-jesus. From Hognabek. Yeah, sounds delicious. You've got to get me some of that.
Speaker: ah Well, get on it. But still, you can be you can order direct from the vi Wine Monopoly. ah or you can go into your local Wine Monopoly and and order it there. and If you do it there, then they maybe buy a whole case. And that helps me much better.
Speaker: so So if you want to go down to have local wine monopoly and ask them about ordering it in, that will be that would help me out. That's actually a really good way to support what I'm doing.
Speaker: If you're interested, if you want to support me, that's a great way. Go down to your local wine monopoly and say, I want to buy so four cans of cryo-jesus. Can you order in a whole case? You know, that's ah that'll really help. but So, yeah.
Speaker: What about the triple? You've got still quite a lot of bottles of that. Yeah, there was an uptick in that, but didn't it tiy it's moved to it hasn't really moved ah like in the same degree that the cryo juices moved.
Speaker: So it's a it's a different product, I think, and I'm really going to have to to work a little bit more on that, I think. So we we talked about packaging the other week.
Speaker: and Anything moving on that? I did think about it. the The challenge is, is it ah rolling a turd in glitter a analogy?
Speaker: ah There is a limit to how much you can dress up mutton, if you will. Like, I'm not saying that the... the The beer is mutton. It's not a bad beer, but there are certain factors in the beer world that make it exclusive.
Speaker: ah Barrel aging, for example, is an exclusivity. ah Limited run, like small batch, is an exclusive thing. um And then there's the actual flavor profile itself. Is it so deeply unique that people are falling over themselves hand and fist to get it?
Speaker: ah So I've kind of, I've had to, I realized like maybe there's a better way to do this than investing a lot of money in repackaging things.
Speaker: Because the reality is is that asking 600 kroner for something, which I'd probably have to if I was going to repackage like we talked about, ah for a bottle of triple, is not going to cut it in the market, especially now with the economy the way it is.
Speaker: So um it's kind of like a...
Speaker: It's kind of like ah they're finding the balance point there between doing something to to make it more appealing while also you know keeping keeping the co but cost acceptable for what the product is.
Speaker: um like I don't think it's unreasonable to ask 300 kroners for something special. in in a big bottle. So that's definitely, but do but when you talked about, we talked about boxes and like wood boxes, like, and I had only, I was going down this rabbit hole of like wood boxes shaped like a starve sheikah and all sorts of stuff. and And I just not, not financially feasible to go into that kind of level of detail at this stage.
Speaker: Now, the other thing that this has dragged up ah is legitimacy. Okay. Like, legitimacy. Like, what am I as a brewery?
Speaker: i Right now, like, on paper, i am a contract brewer. So, I'm just getting a product made with my label on it. And there's a real legitimacy...
Speaker: the It'll be like you doing YouTube videos about building something, but you don't actually build anything yourself. You get it done by someone else. And then you just come in and and claim it for yourself. its there's There's a legitimacy and authenticity to when you're doing it yourself.
Speaker: I think that's completely wrong. You think so? Yeah. How do you say it? I just listened to you for five minutes. Talk yourself down. I'm like, no wonder not selling beer.
Speaker: No, it's true. Yeah. Like, who if you listen to the last five minutes of you droning on about what's going on, no wonder no one's throwing your beers off the shelf because you don't even believe in your own product.
Speaker: Well, i you know, this is the thing. I don't believe in my own product because I actually don't believe in my own product. Can I say that out loud? Of course. i think it's good to say it out loud. because i ah Because I'm not doing it myself. Like, okay, Cryo Jesus is a great beer, for example. I'm drinking and enjoy it.
Speaker: But is it what I brewed, test brewed? Fuck no. It's not. it's It's a shadow of the beer that it was supposed to be. Right?
Speaker: I get that. And that's what... that's what I'm limited by the external people around me who can produce this product for me.
Speaker: So when I know that that beer can be like a 10 out of fucking 10, right, and and it I produce like a 7, like a 7 is still a fucking great beer, right?
Speaker: a But when you know what it can be, And the people that you are trusting to like to create it for you don't treat it in that way and don't lift it to that level commercially.
Speaker: That's where you lose pride in what you've created. And so that's like a real challenge internally for me, that legitimacy and authenticity of the brand.
Speaker: yeah i mean, it just seems pretty simple to me where you have to go with it if you want to do that. You have to do your own thing. You have start your own brewery. You have to get it up and running professionally and commercially. Right?
Speaker: Yep. So what's what's the plan? how How to move it forward in that direction? That is a good question. Like ah I've gone, thought about like the idea of brewpub scenario, which we've talked about before.
Speaker: um and i had a good meeting with a guy in Oslo who's a restaurateur yeahp ah last week. And we talked about the fact that what kind of money is involved in these kind of projects.
Speaker: And that was like, kind of, it wasn't necessarily eye opening. It wasn't like, but it was kind of like reality kind of hitting. Like, so he was like, okay, for a, for a standard kind of place, like we were at this place, like, which he owns called Crowbar.
Speaker: And he's like, this was like a 20, 15 million crown investment just to open the doors. Hmm. And then we needed to have enough liquidity to keep things going around. So it was another 15 mil on top.
Speaker: So this is a 30 million crown investment. And so I'm just like, okay, like that I kind of expected, but at the same time you realize, okay, like if I'm going to do this thing, where am I going to get 30 mil from? Cause that's kind of the, where the model I was looking at was to go.
Speaker: and you know, 30 mil is a lot of fucking money and there there are definitely people out there that have money like that to invest and want to invest and finding them there is also that but do i really want to be running a bar you know restaurant and so that there's a lot of there's a lot of challenge with with starting or an operation, and I'm looking into that now. So part of it the part of this this week coming, I've been um thinking ah I'm going to Stockholm this week and then go to Omnipolo and see what they're doing there and just, I don't know, least just soak in what they're doing and see if there's something that I can learn from what they're doing.
Speaker: ah best case scenario, maybe I meet Henok, who's the who's this founder, and and we have a chat and have a good time. play Please be Australian and go find him and like hunt him out. for Yeah, if I see him like across the thing, I'm like, hey, Henok!
Speaker: Go, mate! ah From Australia! yeah
Speaker: So, yeah. Via Norway. Yeah. So, yeah, so that's there's a lot of there's a lot of coming back down to earth a little bit and recognizing what needs to happen and how it needs to happen.
Speaker: um i also like being watching a lot of Treehouse Brewing videos on YouTube. ah For those who don't know what who Treehouse Brewing is, it's American brewery out of Massachusetts ah and just like a couple hours out of Boston.
Speaker: And what those guys are doing like and how they've come in the the time period that they've built.
Speaker: um Yeah, we'll we'll talk about that in Mind Balloon because it's it's really interesting. So, yeah, that that's my week. It's actually, it was like, I didn't really want to go into it, to be honest, but it was off the back of a complete existential crisis. like But this is I think this is like an interesting thing. Like you might think, oh, like this guy hasn't got all together, like whatever. but So let's be honest here. No one has it all together.
Speaker: No, I think it's important to talk about this stuff. because Yeah. Like you go through the motions. You've got to go on the journey. to figure out what's true, what's right.
Speaker: there's like So there's a ah parable. No, a parable. ah it's It's actually ah something from the Bible. ah The Apostle Paul says that a double-minded man should not in expect to inherit the kingdom of heaven.
Speaker: That's the verse. What kind of for me that means is like if you're not just stop decided on something, if you if you're, ahead theempt if you can if you can see that, panoche um like you're never going to get what you want.
Speaker: Correct. Right? you If you've got one foot out of the boat the whole time, like, you know, you're never going to walk on water. if you've got one foot on the boat, that use the the the the biblical analogy.
Speaker: you've got one foot on the boat and one foot in the water, you're never going to walk on water. Well, this is the whole ah plan. you Never have a plan B. Right.
Speaker: Never have anything to fall back on because then you'll always fall back on it. m If you have a great ambition and drive to do something,
Speaker: then you should never, ever have a plan B because that will always be the stomping ground where you could just say, oh, you know what? I give up. This is too hard.
Speaker: But if you're in a corner and you have to fight your way through it, you've got no choice. I've got to make this work. And this is like the challenge we have in Norwegian society where there's so much – no one wants anyone to that person.
Speaker: that person because they're afraid of it themselves. Right? i Yeah, we're going to talk about this later, actually. Yeah. So anyway, but maybe that's enough on that subject for now. Let's move on. Justin, you've had an eventful week in the garage, it would seem, at least according to Instagram.
Speaker: yeah
Speaker: Tell us. Tell us what's happened. What have you done? Yeah. Right. So let's just get down. ah Let's just go through what's happened this week and then I'll get into a bit of a story. Right.
Speaker: So ah my goal this week was to get the world rally car sort of up and running. I only needed to get tires put on. I've been waiting for a long time for this ah guy we know to give us some used tires. Yeah.
Speaker: I went to go pick them up. I asked him how much does he want for them. He said, don't worry about it. They're free. ah just bring back in Just bring back the rims that they were on. bruce Bring them back to us and you can just we'll sponsor you for those.
Speaker: It was so good. Champion. because those Those tires are each. nearly two thousand coronas wow Yeah, brand new. So I'm not really excited about buying tires like that if I had to. Yeah, so yeah, yeah.
Speaker: Okay, yes, they're a bit used and they're not great, but for what I need them for, they're perfect, right? So... ah Ended up going over to Heitman, which is, he runs a rally school actually. And he's also, that's where I do my testing. The Garage Avenger test track is at his property. Yeah, nice.
Speaker: And he has a tire machine there. i was thinking that he would be helping me, but he showed me once and then goes, you got this and then walks away. So I had to like change these tires and just try and remember what he taught me in the 30-second overview.
Speaker: yeah and So ah had a bit of trouble with one of the tires not sitting properly onto the rim, but I ended up getting it sorted, so that was great.
Speaker: So and that put us to Thursday... afternoon i had planned with kristin like can you please come home and help me push this good car to get it started because it's a push start oh really yeah there's no so no starter or anything you have to push to get it going oh fascinating yeah yeah kristin got a good bit of a workout yeah Pushing your fat ass.
Speaker: Yeah, yeah. So it's been really interesting because the so I've been talking with ChatGTP about like the the gearing and everything. And I thought, ah you know what?
Speaker: It can't be that important. Turns out it was because I increased the diameter of the wheels by 67%. So, it's nearly 70% bigger than the standard go-kart wheels. Right. ah So, mathematically, that's a huge difference for the engine and the torque it needs to turn that wheel. Mm-hmm.
Speaker: so uh i had the just the standard gearing from the go-kart on the engine and the and the axle uh so i tried to tried to get it to move and it just bogged down and died all the time this it didn't have the power in first gear to even get it to to move anything so um There was a lot of pushing and a lot of back and forth thing. And and then I finally realized what it was, so why it wasn't working. I was like, of course, the gearing.
Speaker: So that kind of where the project stopped. Luckily, I had already planned that I needed to change the gearing. So I had already ordered.
Speaker: The parts, but again, Norwegian company, not really wanting my money. taking its sweet time deliver these parts. Yep. That old. So, yeah. Like, to be honest, I probably should just gone to the UK or somewhere. there i probably would have had it like yesterday.
Speaker: If I bought it from some non-Norwegian company, it just blows my mind. That's just so infuriating. Like, every ever all these companies, everyone goes, it's so hard financial time at the moment.
Speaker: I'm like, literally, you get an order and then you're like, ah, we'll send it whenever. ah Yeah, but they're being tight asses because they want to save money because I've i've put two orders in, right? Mm-hmm.
Speaker: And they don't have one part for one of the orders. Like they're out of stock. So they're delaying the whole shipment. Like, no i I put two orders in. At least deliver the one order.
Speaker: Yeah, right. Were they two separate orders? Yeah, they were two separate orders. what a... So they want to save on shipping costs. Even though they charge me for shipping.
Speaker: Right. So, like I'm going to write a letter of complaint. o Do it. And say, you can you can give me my 150 crowns back. Thank you very much.
Speaker: Because you've sent me three parcels when it should have been five separate. So, that's 300 kronos you owe me now. Right. and And I paid for that and I didn't get the parts on time. You delayed because you didn't have the parts in stock.
Speaker: o And you know on your website, you never said it was out of stock. Right. Yeah. So it's not my fault. It's yours. So how about you give me my 300 kronos back? Customer service.
Speaker: so i'm gonna be reaching for that but of course now still waiting for the world rally car chassis to actually move yeah um well trial and error there you go this will add part of like a nice little element to the story let's be honest Yeah, and ah I mean, so it's so good to have Kristen supporting me in this thing. She was like pushing away and getting me going.
Speaker: Yeah. So <unk>m I'm very grateful for her and and everything she's done for me in this project. um Snowmobile update.
Speaker: Yeah. Yeah. I got my parts. Nice.
Speaker: And I realized that whilst I was waiting for those parts to come, i've got confirmation from DHL that they were coming. And thought, you know what?
Speaker: and my like there might be a bit ah like It might be a bit icy because like things are a bit snow like melting and getting like freezing at night and stuff. like I don't think these tracks, really the rubber is not really going to grip on ice.
Speaker: oh So I was talking to friend of mine, Frederick, and he said, um mean you should just use self-tapping screws because they're hardened.
Speaker: Because they have to be because the the screw end needs to be hard enough to be able to drill through metal and stuff. Yeah, right. And why don't you just use them and screw them into the tracks?
Speaker: So I did that. Yeah. And if it doesn't work, it's clearly Frederick's fault. Yeah. Frederick. Yeah. um But, you know I was a bit like of two minds. Like, do I screw through the underside and have the tip of the... Yeah, that would be pretty nasty. would be fucking them badass.
Speaker: Yeah. Sticking out. But then does that, when I apply pressure, want to push it inwards into the tracks... like and then it just falls out, basically.
Speaker: Yeah. Or does centrifugal forces keep it wanting to push out? In the end, what I ended up doing was i ended up buying short ah self-tapping screws and screwed them in from the top down. So it's actually the head of the screw that's exposed to the ice. Yeah, okay.
Speaker: So we'll just see what happens with that. If they just snap the heads off or not. Yeah. yeah Or, you know, i finally, like, I go driving along and they're just freaking, like, sharp metal objects flying at me all ah But I had the, I finally got the spindles yeah from PCBWay.
Speaker: Fit them on. Freaking perfect fit. Nice job, PCBWay. This podcast is sponsored by PCBWay.
Speaker: A nice job for me from designing it too. Yeah, right. Nice job in actually following Justin's design PCB way. Right, exactly.
Speaker: ah So, yeah, i was I bolted these things on and it was ready to go. i was so excited. I was like, all right, we i I need a place to test this before I go take it anywhere proper to test it. I just need to check if it works, right? So I've been talking to Kristen and she works at this like farm.
Speaker: Right. And she sent me a photo on Thursday say like, yeah, this is, look at the snow here. ah There's plenty snow. You can drive on this. Right.
Speaker: was like, fricking sweet. It was, it was like a whole paddock of snow. Yeah. And I was like, sweet. Nice. So on the Friday, I packed the thing up in the, in the back of the car. I had some problems with the battery.
Speaker: i was a bit delayed and so on, but I was a bit stressed because I was like, oh, I need to get there in time to so that, you know, I can drive this thing and and i have I can have some help around.
Speaker: and So I got it there. I got to the farm and I got there and there's no snow.
Speaker: It's all melted. It's all melted. And I said to Kristen, where's all the snow? You sent me this picture on Thursday. There was even snow. She's like, oh, yeah, it's so I took that photo last week.
Speaker: I'm like, what? What? Kristen. why why do price then Rocky move. I'm like, oh, I had this assumption that there was all this snow.
Speaker: So I'm looking around the farm and where I was going to drive it was like basically just grass. Right. There was a couple little patches of icy snowy stuff there.
Speaker: And there was ah there's a paddock there with um with goats. Yeah. well There were no goats in the paddock at the time, so I asked if I could drive it there. And there was there was snow there, right?
Speaker: But it was a bit longer into the farm. i had to And I wasn't going to lift this or drive the snowmobile in the slushy, crappy, you know, muddy. And I i didn't know if it was going to get stuck in the, like, if you know, like on the gravel.
Speaker: yeah And I didn't really want to damage my skis and scrape them all up you know on the first go, driving it in gravel, right on a gravel road, right? Yeah. So was like, all right, oh I'll drive my car out to the paddock right and we'll unload it there.
Speaker: So I drove up the up the up the road and then I turned into the paddock and about 10 meters in, I realized I made a fatal mistake. Bog it? Did you have bogged?
Speaker: i'm I'm driving in I'm actually reversing in. Right. And then I suddenly feel the car like sliding sideways. Oh, no.
Speaker: And I'm like, I'm trying to get it out. I'm like, i've I've tried to like counter steer to try and get it. And then it all of a sudden it sort of slides into a bank and i'm like, oh, crap.
Speaker: Right. So I kind of gave it a rock and back and forth and I managed to get it moving. I'm so stupid. Rather than like say, right, I nearly got stuck here.
Speaker: how about we just like drive it out and then park it and then pull the snowmobile out. there's some there's play There's plenty of people around. They can help me lift it right to the paddock. It's fine.
Speaker: ah No, I didn't do that. I decided that I was going to keep on backing up further along. Oh,
Speaker: I'm driving along. There's these, like, huge chunks of mud just flying off the car as the wheels are just spinning. no. I'm digging up this poor lady's paddock who owns the property.
Speaker: i just feel so crap about it. But how because i was committed by that stage. I couldn't back it up. Oh, i had to back it up. Otherwise, I was going to get stuck.
Speaker: So, I keep on going. And I get to about maybe 10, 20 meters before the paddock. And the car just freaking slides sideways into this, like, ditch. I just...
Speaker: Goes straight up to the axles in mud. Right. I'm like, ah, right. Park it here then. ah ah i get out of the car and the first step I take is like my the the mud goes straight up to my ankles. Right.
Speaker: And I'm like, oh, this so bad. So we we get the snowmobile out and, uh, get it started. Everything looks great.
Speaker: And I, so I put some GoPros on and, and I got Kristen and her students to like help film and stuff. And, uh, I got, Got the engine started. Everything looked so good.
Speaker: Put it into first gear. There was like so much anticipation. I was like, yeah this is going to so sick. going rip around on this snow. I put it into first gear, launched, and I got about 20 meters in. got boxed.
Speaker: Just the so the snow was so soft, man. it just like And because there's no there was no base under it either. There's no icy base. So it just like. we Climate change.
Speaker: Fucking climate change.
Speaker: So I'm sitting there rocking the thing back and forth, trying to get it out of the mud. ah Thinking also that I not only got my car stuck, but I've now got my snowmobile stuck in the middle of a paddock. Right.
Speaker: Lucky for me, the snowmobile is a lot easier to move out of out of the paddock. Yeah, right, and more obviously. How do you get the car out? Well, I'm getting to that.
Speaker: You towed it out with a snowmobile. Wouldn't that be epic? I wish. The snowmobile didn't have the guts for that. No. It would just bog down and straight down the axles. and Imagining it might have just slide around anyway.
Speaker: So, yeah, we – It wasn't the best test. Eventually what did happen though is we got a chance to sort of make a bit of a like a track, a very small track.
Speaker: It was my maybe like 40 meters, like a 40 meter loop. Right, yeah. You know, it was so small. oh The concept, we realized the concept works. It's just we need the right conditions. You know, the snow can't be any deeper than about 10 centimeters. Otherwise it'll get bogged.
Speaker: Or it needs to be super hard. Yeah, or super hard, right? Yeah. yeah it needs to be packed and and a bit icy. But like fresh, fluffy snow, no more than 10. Otherwise, it'll just get bogged. Yeah.
Speaker: Because I don't have enough clearance underneath the chassis to to to be able to clear that, like soft snow. Uh, so we, we tested it.
Speaker: Great. Fantastic. I decided that I was going to make sure that I, like how the tracks handled when I really tried to give it some stick. Uh, so I gave it some stick in a corner and the tracks rolled off and broke my rear tail lights.
Speaker: So, But no no biggie. It's okay. It's called a shakedown for a reason, I guess. Exactly, right? It's shakedown. Yeah. so But I knew then, like, okay, I can't drive it so aggressively. Right.
Speaker: Because then and then the tracks will come off. But you can just give it... probably a lot of gas on ah on a straight straight yeah and we'll fine. yeah So that was great. Cool. Put the snowmobile back in the back of the car.
Speaker: And then... And then proceeded to use about an hour and a half to get my car out of the mud. Yep. yeah There was tractors involved. I imagine so. i was like thinking there had to be a tractor involved.
Speaker: Yeah. so
Speaker: I'm pretty happy with the testing considering the conditions.
Speaker: what do i do next? This week, I'm going to go up into the mountains and test it properly. Nice. So plan is that tomorrow I travel with Frederick and into, actually, we're going to go to my mother-in-law's cabin. Okay, you're going to have to. There is some snow.
Speaker: There is some snow there. So the idea is we just go there. At least I know the area, so I know where to drive. I know, you know, and I also can talk to people that are around the area and I'll say, like, this is what we're doing and, you know, if there's any complaints, yeah so on and so forth. Deal with those hissy folk.
Speaker: If there's any in the Featist All area. ye Yeah. And know we're going middle of the week for a reason, right? We're going middle of the week because then there will be probably no one around, which is nice. And you know even if there is someone around, there'll be probably people working their hitter and they don't care.
Speaker: Right. Yeah. They're already using swords and shit. Yeah, exactly. So, yeah. So that's basically what we're going to do this week. So I'm really looking forward to that and seeing what we can shoot and hopefully I can get the video finished by the weekend. Sweet. And I can post a video finally in like six weeks or seven weeks I haven't posted a video. Come So, yeah.
Speaker: I look forward to it. The other thing is that ah I've had a weird delivery. ah weird delivery. So, I told you guys ordered a bunch of parts from AliExpress for the chopper. Yeah.
Speaker: And they've started coming in. It's been super exciting. like all of a sudden, I got this massive package. I was like, oh, what's in this? Yeah. Oh, I'm so excited. And then came this huge ah rear tire and wheel.
Speaker: Because I'm making like a fat bike. It's going to be like super fat tire on the Yeah, yeah. Yeah. So... ah That came, and then I got this fan mail.
Speaker: Fan mail? Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Literally in the mail. Yeah, literally in my postbox. Yeah, okay. No, in my postbox. Okay, tell me. And i don't know to I don't know if I should be super creeped out by this. Okay. Or just be happy that I got someone like...
Speaker: Yeah, sending me something. Right, okay. And there's two reasons why i'm like, i don't know if I should be creeped out. One... ah there was no like returning address or anything to this person that sent it. Okay.
Speaker: Neither was there a postage stamp or anything. on this They just dropped it in your mailbox. Yeah. So was like, are they stalker material or or are they a super nice to eat? I don't know. Okay, And it was written on ah it was written on like a postcard type of thing. Okay. Okay.
Speaker: Yeah. and what ah What was the teller? What was in the package? What was in note or whatever? It was literally a postcard. That was all it was. Yeah. It had ah a dog with sunglasses on that front of it.
Speaker: ah On one side of the card, it talked about Hank being too cool for school. So obviously a fan that knows about Hank and his existence. ah And then on the other side, it talked about me just keep on going to make the videos and that he thoroughly enjoyed them.
Speaker: And that was like, that was it. It was a guy named Espen. Yeah. And then he writes also Garage. m's garage Now, I searched this up on Instagram, and I don't know if this is him or not. like I'm just confused. So if you're somehow listening to this, Espen, and you want to give me some bit more detail so I can actually shout you out properly, but please send like send me a DM on Instagram or Facebook or something and so I can actually get in touch properly with you. who say
Speaker: I don't know. It was a bit of a funny experience. like i would like i would think... Well, I mean, Espen, if you exist, please let yourself be known to to Justin because I'm tempted to think that it was just Kristen trying to be nice, trying to be a coach. Wouldn't that be hilarious? Your wife's just, like, sent you, like, a random post, like, oh just put this in the post box.
Speaker: He'll never know. Say it's from Espen. That sounds like a very Norwegian name. Yeah. Was it in English or Norwegian? It was in English.
Speaker: Oh, okay. Interesting. Yeah. yeah I won't say the guy's last name, but it's a Norwegian name, so I think he's Norwegian. Okay.
Speaker: Yeah. But all the all the stuff I saw from Dr. M's garage was Portuguese. Oh, interesting. I'm like, I'm not sure it's the right guy. I think it might be worth...
Speaker: Checking your wife's handwriting. i check I checked. I've checked already. I know it's not her. Yeah. she just like yeah She just wrote with her left hand.
Speaker: ah Maybe. Prove me wrong, Espen, if you're out there listening. Yeah. yeah So I guess you could call that a little bit... Double rainbow all the way across the sky.
Speaker: Wow.
Speaker: Mind blown.
Speaker: Postage. Random fan mail. Mind blown. There you go. Well, that's not my mind blown for this week, actually. Oh, okay. Tell me, what's what is your mind blown?
Speaker: It's a crazy ah race in Spain called Autolucos Errera. Okay. and Like car crazy something or other.
Speaker: Yeah, I think La Rica is the place. Yeah. And it's like ah yeah basically like crazy car race La Rica.
Speaker: Yeah, right. And it's a it's a soapbox derby. Okay. Yeah, okay. But... This is not like the Red Bull kind of soapbox derby. Okay. These guys are like professionals, man. Like legit. like Legit. These are like the wind tunnel type Legit?
Speaker: No, not like that. But these are like the rally car drivers of Soapbox. ok Okay. You have to think about that they're flying down this hill through this cobblestone roadway that's super steep down a mountain, right? Right.
Speaker: And there's hairpin turns. They're like handbrake turning around. with no engine to drive them out of the corner, like hand-breaking round and down the hill and hand-breaking round, like the skill and to keep the speed In these cars, and some of them are tandem.
Speaker: Right. Two people driving them. There's a guy in the in the back, like, throwing his body weight around so that they can slide around the corner better. I'm imagining that this is something you've seen on YouTube, yeah?
Speaker: Yeah. YouTube, is there any ceasing the wonders you've seen? They tend to know. But seriously, dude, it was so mind-blowing how fast these guys are going down this freaking hill. Yeah. Like, with no space. like the I mean, these alleyways are probably max three meters wide.
Speaker: And these cars are, like, flying down there so fast. And some of them crash big time. Yeah. yeah And then they, they like, handbrake around these corners and just keep on going. Yeah, right.
Speaker: Yeah. it's It just blew my mind. i was like, I feel like I have to create and one of these vehicles and take it to Spain to do this race. There you There's the next one.
Speaker: There's the next one. If only don't have money to do such ones. only you can get the next two out.
Speaker: Exactly. What's blowing your mind, Kieran? Well, I mentioned Treehouse Brewing. I did go down a little YouTube and rabbit hole this week. And Treehouse Brewing is something that I'm not, like I'm familiar with. Like I keep coming back to their video content.
Speaker: The head brewer there, this guy, Nate, I forget his name off the top my head now. um He even hosts these YouTube videos most of the time. or in fact, the only guy who hosted.
Speaker: But the thing that blows my mind, like they did like a video about their 10-year canversary, they called it, ah which was the anniversary of the first beer that they ever canned.
Speaker: pra Prior to that, they were doing like kind of bottling, hand bottling almost, like just filling growlers and stuff. Now, the thing that blows my mind is America in this context, right?
Speaker: Because
Speaker: and you would never have this phenomenon happen in Norway. Right. these guys start a brewery people start talking about the beer right they have like this small canning line that can like just churn out like and like literally people are like cases are rolling off the canning line straight into the customer's hand and they're walking away with it right they cannot there's a line 300 meters out the door
Speaker: People just waiting for this beer to roll off their very small canning line into their hands. Right. And, and like, and I saw another video the other day where they were talking about ah visiting tree house. Like if you're going to come visit, here's the protocol because of the crowds, right.
Speaker: And i was just like, okay, like what are they – so you have to – if you want to go there and drink, it depending on the location and the time you're visiting because sometimes they have – obviously they have busy seasons and the rest. they If you go there within the peak period, like you have to preorder like draft sales like – so that they can like make sure they have enough beer for people.
Speaker: Like you can pre-order like this particular batch of beer and that that is, you know, or this new release or whatever on tap. And so that everybody can pay for it before they get it. So then make sure that, you know,
Speaker: people And it's just the way that it has to work like clockwork in order for it to function. Because like he says in the in the video that they that last year they had a million, a million visitors.
Speaker: One fucking million visitors to their brewery.
Speaker: Well, isn't that a case study for you, Kieran? This is what I'm like. um this um I'm like, i'm honestly, I was looking at this. I'm like, this week, it's only 4,700 crowns to a plane ticket to Boston.
Speaker: Like... Do I just go to fucking Charlton, Massachusetts, and just fucking just to have a look at what they're doing there? Maybe meet some people?
Speaker: I don't think it's that. I mean, i I think you can learn nearly everything off their YouTube channel. Yeah, but there's something about the physical, tangible being there too. Yeah, agree with that. And that being said, I've never tasted their beer.
Speaker: So it's a good – there's literally so high demand that you can't get it out of the country. and these the guys that did the like the Harry Toppers or it was called? Heddy Topper you're thinking about? Heddy Topper, yeah. No, no, They're very much post-Heddy Topper.
Speaker: Yeah, okay. But, I mean, if okay, like just let's think about the numbers there for a second. If you've got a million people visiting your brewery, um And your beer is so in high, so high demand and you can buy like cases of beer there. You can also go there and drink the beer and like they've got like a nice bars and all the rest on site.
Speaker: I think it's pretty pretty safe to assume that like the average person would spend somewhere between three and four hundred US dollars there in a visit, especially if they're buying beer and taking it home with them.
Speaker: Right? m Like, we're talking about three, four hundred million us dollars just in visiting, let alone the other sales and other things that are going on for the business.
Speaker: Like... We're talking about, well, exactly. This is what's blowing my mind about it. I'm like, wow, fucking so cool. How did they how they build that hype? all right How did they get people so invested that they're going to travel the country just to get a beer from this place?
Speaker: right like That's a case study that you can take into your business as well. Absolutely. So that's just mind blowing me this week just to realize like, and this is like, even, you know, this latest video that I watched the other day was released only a few weeks ago. And like, they're very much like, we know things are tough. The industry is fucked, but we're still expanding. We're still going well.
Speaker: Hmm. And so good on them. And they're like, I've got something people can believe in. ahs like, you know, I'm, I'm like ready to,
Speaker: sell my second born child to, to get a taste of some of those beers.
Speaker: Right. But it's does not say something. was like, it's just because they've created this image around what they're doing and limited small production. I think. Well, I don't know about the, they're pretty getting pretty big now.
Speaker: Like they're running side by side. imagining they're running like a 10,000, somewhere around a 10,000 litre brew house, and they're running two side by side, 24 hours a fucking day. But they started off like that. That's what I'm saying. Oh, yeah. That's how they built the hype.
Speaker: Yeah, and that's like the that's like part of the the model I've been thinking about. So, you know, it's a is there's definitely a lot of inspiration in it, but it's also just mind-blowing. It's mind-blowing to think that that that can still be done.
Speaker: And yeah, they've worked hard, no doubt. And it's very clear that they've worked hard. um But there's a commitment and a passion for what they're doing. And I think that will always, right the cream will always rise to the top.
Speaker: Yeah? Yep. So that's just a reminder. So there you go ah Well, I guess then that leads us on to this, Kieran.
Speaker: Who does number two work for?
Speaker: Hey, hey, just grab a hold of something, bite your lip and give it hell. Come on. We're going to through this.
Speaker: What is giving you the shits, Justin? Well, ah boring non-creative people. Ha, ha, ha. ah Oh, you know, watched this video, a good video about this the other day.
Speaker: and this is, but yeah, we can talk about this maybe later. It's another thing. But, yeah, tell me more. Why are boring non-creative people giving you the shits? Well, one, you can't relate to them.
Speaker: so you know, I went to a party this week, ah some like a family party, I guess you'd call it. and you know They're not directly related to us.
Speaker: ah But there was all their family there, and and I was talking with some people there. and of course, the inevitable question is like, what do you do kind of thing come up.
Speaker: And I said, you know like i I'm a ah creator. I make fun vehicles, and I make YouTube videos about it. And they're like, okay
Speaker: you know oh, okay. I don't know how to relate to that. so Yeah, well, that's right. you know And then what gave me the shits is they did eventually ask some questions. yeah And then, like I said, I sort of explained the projects I was doing. And they're like, why would you do that?
Speaker: I'm like, because it's fun. it's it's It's enjoyable for me. Yeah, but why would you do that? and then they But they they talk about the car that they're going to buy, the new Porsche or something like this. Right. And they don't realize that every freaking part of that car was designed by someone like me.
Speaker: Right. Yeah, someone who needed – Well, why would you build a Porsche in the first place? Because it's fucking Right. Right? Yeah. It's a challenge. It's exciting. until Until the Porsche became an extension of someone's ego, it was a fun fucking car. Right?
Speaker: hundred percent 100%. This is boring people. I'm sorry. just Everyone is innately creative, but we've had a system of in society where we've just like smashed creativity out of the zeitgeist.
Speaker: Yeah. And so you can't really talk to anybody. Yeah. about being creative anymore. People just can't relate, even though they see it around them all the time.
Speaker: So, I'm sorry, but... People, boring people, give me the fucking shit. So I don't want to spend any time around them. You know, it's it's interesting.
Speaker: Like I was watching this video. I can't remember who the guy is. He always, has this like beard and often sometimes wears a hat. And he's like, it's it's just one of those things that kind of starts turning up in my reels.
Speaker: um When I, the way probably reads my algorithm with what I'm doing with entrepreneurship. But say he talks about like, being exceptional. I don't know if you've seen this one before. And it's like, it's because you are the exception.
Speaker: e You are different. So the reason you got no friends is because you're different. You're exceptional. and it I have no friends. Yeah, well, i I feel like I'm in the same boat. now like We both have friends. like We're not complete loners. But that feeling of being alone in what you're moving towards Right.
Speaker: It's like, that's the, you're the exception because everyone else just takes a fucking salary job. Everyone else just, you know, wants to go to the cabin on the weekend. And this is like the thing that like led my existential crisis this week.
Speaker: Right. Like what is the fucking point? Like, because it all is like no one gives a fuck. But, like, the reality is I need to sell beer, so someone needs to give a fuck, right? Like, there needs to be a level of giving a fuck from the people that I'm producing to for, you know? Otherwise, it doesn't go around.
Speaker: And so it's like that that existential crisis of realizing that there the vast majority of people are just fucking...
Speaker: robot consumers. Mm. I, you know, even just talking about this with Kristen the other day was that, you know, i've I've got to go film this snowmobile project out in the wild.
Speaker: And I have no one else to get excited about how to produce the video. Mm. Right? There's no one else who's like, oh wow, yeah, you know, we should get these type of shots.
Speaker: Mm. ah like Only I see that, and it's so draining because like I'm not surrounded, unfortunately, with people that like are creative and see the big vision.
Speaker: And I guess I'm not at that point in my career yet for that, if you know what I mean. But I think the challenge too is is that we've become so individualistic as a society that we actually – completely lack the, ah I'm going to say the word empathy without it not really being the right word.
Speaker: Like that connection with what other people are doing and excitement for what other people are doing seems to be lacking in our current digital age because we're so disconnected from reality in Yeah, everyone's willing to like stand there and watch you for five seconds and take a video a picture. Yeah.
Speaker: But then they don't want to invest time and effort into anything more than that. No, right? So there you go Yep. that's That's giving the shits boring people. you know what's giving me the shits, Justin.
Speaker: Hi, sorry to interrupt guys. This is editor Justin here. um You are about to hear Kieran swear profusely in this segment.
Speaker: Feel free to count them and then DM Kieran with how many times he swore in this section. I don't know how many times it is, but I lost count. Enjoy. Do tell. Those fucking like stupid cap design on all the fucking milk and soda and juice boxes.
Speaker: I don't know how many times i fucking spilled a drink, poured the fucking drink into the lid and made a fucking mess. I'm just like, I'm sorry.
Speaker: like if you want, there's got to be a better way. Like milk cartons. I'm sorry to say, why does a milk carton need a fucking screw lid? What's wrong with but the regular fucking thing that we used to do in the 90s?
Speaker: We peel open the the corner and pour it out of the little spout. What's wrong with that? That's completely environmentally friendly. You can recycle a whole fucking carton without a little plastic bit in it.
Speaker: ah So true. why Why have we gone over to this fucking lid thing and then we're like, no, no, no hold on. People are not recycling the lid properly. So we've got to make it attached.
Speaker: And then it gets in the fucking way and we make a big mess. and How is it hows it better for them to recycle when it's attached? i don't That I don't understand either. I really don't.
Speaker: like two They're two different types of plastic too. Yeah, that's why. that's ah That I don't understand at all. What the heck? And then, like okay, like you go and you go out and you go like, oh I'm going to get a ah a Coke or whatever, right?
Speaker: And I'm like, and then you're at the beach having a nice time. And then you're like, oh, I'll just swig out of this bottle. And then you're like, oh, I've got to move the fucking cap out. of Oh, the cap went up my fucking nose.
Speaker: Or like, i like it doesn't. Not everyone has these big noses like you me, Kieran. Well, I mean, like the cap's in the fucking way of like any, like, especially Coca-Cola, which like the whole thing has been all about being cool and fucking sexy whilst drinking Coca-Cola, right?
Speaker: Like, how is that? and is this Is this a means to push us all over to cans, aluminium? Is that what it is? Because, like, you know, if I'm, like, drinking out of a bottle and I've got to push this fucking lid off to the side in the right direction so it's not, like, hitting me in the nose or sitting in a weird position. or so Because it can be, like, sharp, too, from the broken plastic. like You know, te potentially you can scrape your...
Speaker: nose or your mouth or whatever if you have it the wrong way, right? Yeah. I'm just like, why why is this a thing? don't, I mean, like, okay, like, there's the, oh, it's for the environment. Like, yeah, but like as you said, Justin, like, why, how does this make it easier to to recycle?
Speaker: And they must they must have some machine that, like, grabs the cap and pulls it off. But, like, I'm sorry, it can't be that. How about just find a better way to do it?
Speaker: Unfortunately, though, Karen, I don't think the can thing is a viable option because people want to be able to screw the lid back on. Right. But, you know, and the reality is for people like Coca-Cola, you know, if you're not looking hot and sexy whilst you're doing it, you know, then I guess a can's going to be the the way for forward. Right.
Speaker: I don't know about that, Kieran. I think no one is buying Coke thinking they're going to look hot and sexy. I don't I'm just trying to understand the logic of the fucking lid. I don't understand. I'm like, are they going to start doing it on fucking beer bottles next?
Speaker: Are they 100%. You have a fucking wine cork with a string attached to it or something. Jesus Christ. Why? Why? It's not- I mean, okay, like, you know what would be better?
Speaker: Make the cork or the screw cap out of something that's, like, not detrimental to the environment. That would be the better way to go. Instead, they're like, no, we're going to make this thing where it's a pain in the fucking ass.
Speaker: I don't know how many liters of milk I've spilt.
Speaker: Maybe you've got to get better at pouring milk, dude. Maybe this is part of the part of the model. They're like, we're going to make this more difficult to fucking pour milk and juice and you're going to waste lot. You spill and you waste more and you buy more. And then you've got to more.
Speaker: We've come across the bloody, what do you call it? Conspiracy theory, Garrett. It's conspiracy threshold. Yeah. who So, yeah, that there we go. It's the it's the conspiracy now. ah All Tina, all the milk companies are are basically trying to get us to buy more milk.
Speaker: Oh, 100% that. Yeah. I was saying that to Emma the other day. She's like, the yogurt's like nearly out of date. I was like... Yeah, just remember that. Yogurt's probably pretty good to keep for quite a few weeks after the use by date. Yeah. They they say best before. says, Ike do lieta, panosk.
Speaker: Yeah, right? like you know There's a reason why they so use those specific words. Yeah. Because they know it's not actually gone off. But what happens is you see that date and you think it's bad, so you throw it in the bin and you buy another one. Right.
Speaker: Consumerism! Fuck!
Speaker: Sorry to interrupt again. Just Justin, the editor here. Be sure to make sure you send your DMs to Kieran. Let him know how many times he did drop the F-bomb. Now let's get on with the show.
Speaker: Kieran? Yes, Justin? It's time to do some singing. Okay. Me, me, me, me, mamamomomo
Speaker: Recommendation, and recommendation. What is your recommendation?
Speaker: Okay, before we get into recommendations, yeah I need to address the elephant in the room here. Okay, where's the elephant? I can't see it.
Speaker: elephant in the room is Kieran's flip-flopping.
Speaker: Okay. So. Flip flopping. For those who don't remember, last week, Kieran's recommendation was kids. Yep. Weeks prior, Kieran's like, get a vasectomy, chop your fucking balls off.
Speaker: Well, that's if you've already had kids.
Speaker: No, I've decided we can't take your recommendations seriously if you're going be flip-flopping all the time, Kieran. Okay. And I have to take note, I have to give kudos to Kristen because she brought this up with me. Although I did think about it, i didn't bring it up in the podcast when you said it. no But then she she had this conversation with me after. She's like, Kieran's said like three times or something in a podcast to get a vasectomy. Yeah.
Speaker: Three times, maybe twice. Now he's saying kids are the best thing ever. Seems a bit like contradictory. I have to say that the the idea of a vasectomy is if you've already had kids or you don't want them at all.
Speaker: But what if you think you don't want them and then you can't have them when you do want them? Well, a vasectomy is actually reversible. It's a lot more reversible than a fucking hysterectomy. Yeah, okay. Fair enough.
Speaker: Look, I was just trying to be the devil's advocate here. Devil's advocate. Yep. ah But my recommendation, though, I'm going to say loud, is to just be different and weird.
Speaker: Mm-hmm. I don't think there's enough people that are different and weird, but in a good way, not like a creepy, like stalkery type of you know way, but like be creative. like a you know Part of my problem with people this week being boring is because they're not different and creative.
Speaker: If there's more of us out there vocally talking about our differences and, you know, our weird stuff we're into, we don't feel as alone.
Speaker: Yeah. Because you'll you'll meet someone else that's like also into something different and weird. And eventually you might meet the right people that you get along on got get along with so well that You know, you want to hang out all the time and and you've got a real genuine friendship going on about the things you're into, ah which might be different and weird to everyone else in the status quo.
Speaker: So I want to shout out for everybody to go be different and weird. That's recognition. So I don't different and weird. Be weirdo.
Speaker: Well, and my ah you I could completely piggyback that a little bit, Justin, because especially in Norwegian culture, ah encouraging someone is being a weirdo.
Speaker: oh yeah, that's true. So that's my recommendation for this week. Encourage someone. Because the vast majority of us, you you might think that the average person, like you see someone who's doing something and you think, oh, they've got their people.
Speaker: Oh, they don't. yeah They don't. They're alone. Like you and me and everyone else there who's like doing something. that's especially Especially if it's different, you know, and the norm.
Speaker: Like if you're just doing your nine to five and your boring job and whatever. but But even then, even if you are, you're listening to this podcast, like find someone in your life and encourage them.
Speaker: And I don't mean like just Justin and myself. Like, I mean, like you see a guy at work who's fucking good at his job. Like tell him. Yeah. No one tells him. No one tells No one tells him no one tells him he's good at his job.
Speaker: No one encourages him. no one lifts him up. No one says, you're doing fucking awesome today. Like, give credit where it's due. Encourage someone to. It will change. Like, the interesting thing about all of this is that it will change you.
Speaker: It will change you if you keep but looking and seeing good things in people and telling them. you'll become a better person. You'll be happier with shit, you know?
Speaker: So I think, like, and I've started doing that. I'm practicing what I'm preaching here. I've started doing this. I just started sending, like, people random messages, often voice messages on, like, on Messenger and stuff.
Speaker: I like thinking about someone and be like, oh, that guy's doing really good, like, doing the mad shit, you know? Like, this couple weeks ago, I sent a voice message to this guy, Stephen, who runs Sleeping Village.
Speaker: a brewery or actually kind of a same thing. They're a kind of a gypsy brewer like myself, but he's doing some really great fucking beer.
Speaker: And I was like, he deserves to know that that's what I think. Where's he getting his beer brewed if you fucking can't get your stuff done? Well, he's doing it at the same place he works.
Speaker: Ah, okay. So, um but I was just like, you know what? And he knows the system too that he's working on. So that's another thing. Right, exactly. So, so um Yeah, just encourage someone. Find someone that's good at what they're doing or is trying or pushing you like, oh, i and someone that you maybe like look up to or even like see that they're doing something like they're trying really hard or working towards something.
Speaker: Because those people never get like in our modern day society, no one ever turns around and says, good job. Like, you I love what you're doing. You're killing it.
Speaker: Everyone's more likely to say, it's shit. You're not doing a good enough job. And so the voice of encouraging someone is so important for if you value what someone is doing, tell them.
Speaker: I agree, Kieran. Yeah. I agree. On that note, thank you all so much for listening. You guys rock. ah We'll put some links down to Kieran's Patreon because he's going to start it even though you've got two people. I've eaten another three.
Speaker: Stop being Norwegian. No, you don't. We're going start it. yes john Am I going to start one? Is that what doing? You have to. It's free anyway. Just deal with it, Kieran. It doesn't cost you anything.
Speaker: Jeez.
Speaker: Just open yourself up for people who want to support you, Kieran. There we go. And thank you again to all my patrons. You guys are awesome. Yep. Thank you all for listening again.
Speaker: We'll see you next week. Cheers, everyone.
