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The Power of Continuous Learning with Mike Griffin
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In this episode of Shaping Your Pottery, Mike Griffin shares his journey and insights in the pottery world. He emphasizes the importance of continuous learning, experimenting with new techniques, and seeking inspiration from fellow potters. From his initial discovery of pottery at Alfred University to his innovative approach to hand-building and his recognition in Ceramics Monthly, Mike's story is filled with lessons on overcoming fear, making mistakes, and having fun. He also provides practical advice on leveraging community studios and entering pottery shows to grow as an artist. Listeners are encouraged to explore Mike's work on Instagram and join his upcoming workshops. You can learn more about Mike by checking out his instagram https://www.instagram.com/mike_griffin_ceramics/
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00:00 Introduction and Free Pottery Themes
00:48 The Importance of Continuous Learning in Pottery
01:34 Mike's Journey into Pottery
03:17 Encouragement and Growth as an Artist
05:14 Community Studios and Learning Opportunities
06:24 Developing a Unique Pottery Style
11:36 Switching from Wheel Throwing to Hand Building
18:53 Finding Your Voice in Pottery
21:55 Opportunities and Recognition
25:51 Final Thoughts and Advice
26:22 Outro and Additional Resources
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Transcript
Introduction to Shaping Your Pottery
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00:00:30
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If you love pottery and want to take your skills to the next level, you're in the right place. Find your own pottery style right here on Shaping Your Pottery with Nick Torres. Let's get started.
The Role of Instagram in Pottery Learning
00:00:41
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Made a lot of crappy pots when I switched. You know, I had to, again, I had to keep learning. it Mike, welcome to Shaping Pottery and share with me what is something in pottery in the pottery world that you believe everyone should be doing. Oh wow, that's a great question. Nick, hi, how are you doing, by the way? What is every something every potter should be doing? Learning, I think. I mean, there's so much endless knowledge out there and and so many different techniques. you know That's one reason I love Instagram. I just scroll through and I'll go, that is cool. you know and then I've made so many potter friends that way because potters are so um sharing. I just reach out and say, hey, how did you do that? And they're like, oh, I did it this way. Here's how I did it. Or here's my recipe. you know and
00:01:23
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So yeah, always always stay learning, I'd say. Absolutely. Re-shape a nation. The more you learn, the better your pottery is going to become and the better skills you're going to achieve as well. I absolutely love
Mike's Pottery Journey Begins
00:01:33
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that. Absolutely. So tell me the story, how you got started making pottery. So let's see. I went back to school late in life. Went back to school at about 30 years old. And I went to family in the Alfred area. Have you heard of Alfred University? So Alfred University, which is about 45 minutes from my house, is used to be the number one ceramic school in the world. Some of the best potters like ah Val Cushing and John Gill and a lot of those amazing, amazing potters came out of Alfred and I had the pleasure to meet them all just as kind of friends. And when I went to school, I went to school for liberal arts and I didn't know anything about pottery.
00:02:11
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And i I met Potters and I said, what are you talking about? So I ended up trying it one day on the wheel. And I mean, if you've wheel thrown before, it's super addictive. And I just fell in love with it. And I said, I got to do this more. Like right now, I'm just playing with a piece of clay because it's been a couple of months since I've been in my studio. But yeah, I got started in Alfred. And it's funny, I went to Alfred, but for liberal arts, so not for ceramics. Why were you feeling that first moment when you hopped on the wheel? you know It's funny. There's a lady who who was teaching the class. I was running a a coffee shop that had ceramic studio in the basement. What the heck was her name? and um Anyway, she's a great potter. She's teaching this wheel class and I was sitting there and I had a break. I'm having a cup of coffee and I'm watching her throw on the wheel. and I said, you got to let me try that. so I sat down and and just threw a bowl.
00:02:59
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And she looked at me and she said, you've never done that before? I said, no. She says, most people don't do that their first try. I was like, I don't know. I didn't know. you know I was like, that's just just fun. So it was gratification, I think. I absolutely love that. I didn't experience that my first time I threw on the wheel. I was completely opposite.
Learning and Growth in Pottery
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So you contribute growth as an artist to getting encouragement from other potters. Tell me more about this. Yeah, well, so that going to Alfred and being like friends with all these amazing potters and me kind of starting pottery on my own, like I didn't go through the ceramics program, I had the i had the lucky opportunity to ask some of the greatest potters ever, hey, well, how do I do this? And they're like, oh, just do this and this and this. Or here, here's my notes. Try this. or
00:03:48
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Or hey, you're you're doing real good. Your pots are a little thick here. You could work on this and maybe try this. So I constantly had, you know, I constantly ask questions too. That's why I say, you know, learn. And I just had a thirst for knowing what the next step was. And I'm still not even close to know what the next step is now, but I was very lucky to be able to glean off of those people. So that was, and they were constantly, oh for me not being a student at Alfred and them to kind of help me out was was kind of nice of them. I think. So you mentioned that you would ask a lot of questions. What were some of your questions that you would ask that helped elevate your pottery? Oh my gosh. I remember one time I was on the Allegheny Artisans Tour. I think I had been making pots for two years and my studio doors were open and I made a pot of coffee. I was standing in there with my wife at the time and I looked out my my studio door and I saw John and Andrea Gill walking across my lawn and I said no.
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They're like superstars, you know and I'm like, oh my God, throw all my pots away, hide them. This is just crap. And they came in and they just said, you know you're making you're making pretty good pots for someone who didn't go through the program, somebody who just learned. So just keep going. So I constantly had glaze questions, you know clay mixing questions. i was I tried to put myself in every situation where I could learn a little bit from somebody that was better than me. Really. How can someone put themselves in that position as well where they're trying to learn themselves from other people?
Community and Shared Experiences
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ah Great question. There are so many great community studios. I would get involved in one of those and take some classes because there's there's a lot of really, really good potters that don't have a studio at home or
00:05:36
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you know the ability to make pots somewhere else. So those super good potters are teaching these classes most of the time in trade for studio space. So you might get a class from a really, really skilled potter. So I would say take some community classes. There's one up here in Rochester called Flower City Studios, which is fantastic. I hope to get up there and be a part of that pretty soon, but yeah, go take go take a class and get involved because but a lot of times too, you're with other people that are also in the same exact boat as you. They're trying to learn as well so you can learn with them. It's kind of fun and it's not so overwhelming when it's a group of people.
00:06:13
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Yeah community studios. I absolutely love that. Some exit advice. Shaping Nation, the easiest way to grow your work is to be around other potters and to ask questions. I love that. Absolutely. So now let's talk about your pottery.
Experimentation with Styles and Techniques
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Can you tell me the story how you started making the pottery that you make today? So I mean as it developed You know, it's been a long time now. I just i realized the other day, wow, i've been I've been making pots for a while. But it's funny, if people say, how long have you been making pots? They say about 15 years, but I can really only make pots six months a year because I run a golf course. So about, I'd say about seven or eight years now.
00:06:49
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It's just just thirst for to get a certain look that I liked. no I think a lot of potters hate glazing. I don't know if you'd glaze. but i don't i mean I like glazing, but i don't I'm not a big fan of the surface of just glaze. So I started developing a terracigillata. Many years ago, I found a recipe online. I think it was, I can't remember his name, but I got a book from Terra Sigillata book and learned a bunch of recipes and just tried to make test tiles. And that kind of became the look that I was kind of known for was Terra Sigillata. So now I'm kind of mixing that. I'm again, I'm still learning. I'm in, I'm in the process of mixing that with some glazes that I got from my buddy up there in Alaska, Matt Hiller. So I'm in between.
00:07:37
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terror sage and glaze at the same time right now So now you mentioned that you've been making pottery for around 15 years. What keeps you motivated to keep making pottery? Just the never ending possibilities. you know Every time, I was telling my wife this the other day because I've been playing golf since I was about five years old. I teach golf. I run a golf course. And we played golf with my wife the other day and I learned something about my swing. You know, and I've been doing this for 45 years. So I said to my wife, I said, see, that feeling right there to me is just like opening a kiln. Every time I open a kiln, you know, you pull something out and you go, wow, that's, that's cool. The way those two overlap, you know, or the way that shrunk and fit. I'm like, okay, now that I could take this and go this, this, this, this, and this, you know, it's just like, it's just a never ending Pandora's box of new stuff to try. So it's just never ending.
00:08:31
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Definitely agree with that I also had that same experience when I when I used to play baseball in high school Like I would this swing is good and like and I felt that same experience with pottery as well Yeah, so then you like you make that swing and you make a solid contact, hit it hit a solid triple down the third baseline and you go, oh, what I did there was I just kind of gripped down and led with my right elbow a little bit. you know So same thing with throwing on the wheel. If I put my chest over and hold this elbow in, I can really center way easier. and So yeah, I just love that that the building on something that I just learned. What's next for me? Absolutely, definitely agree.
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So, one second, I lost where I was at. Something interesting I found on your website is you have a section called butts. Tell me more about this. ah Oh, the butts. The butts is this big drama story right now. Let me go grab one. Hold on. So, i i learned I learned about the butts or Basically just foot molds. Gosh, a long time ago from a guy named Mark Arnold, speaking of Terra Sigillata, Mark Arnold's pots are fantastic. And he's a really cool guy. I reached out to him 10 years ago and said, hey, how do you do that? And he said, here, this is how I do it. And I said, cool. So I used to make them his way, which was out of plaster.
00:09:48
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It's just really a ah base out of plaster. But um ah I don't do plaster well. like This thing is still really soft. See, I can just chip it away. They crack. When I do plaster, it goes all over the screwy place. It gets all over the floor. It makes a mess. So what I used to do was throw the bottom of a mug. I would throw it upside down on the wheel. And then I would do a plaster mold of the bottom of the mug this way. and then pop that off and then use that as my base. And so then a couple of years ago, I said, that's I can't do that. It just makes a mess. to It's too weak. They crack. So I just started throwing them face up as just a base. So this is just a plate mold. So it's it's ah basically a plate with a foot ring on the top, which I just do that with ah the bottom of a paintbrush. you know So I throw it, and then I just make that groove with the bottom of a paintbrush because it's rounded, and then biscuit.
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So now when i press I press a ring in here and I press a flat slab on there and let it get three quarters dry and go, like and you have the exact same size plate every single time. And it's super easy. And I always just call them butts. I love that. That's such a smart, creative way to fix that or to go about it. I love that. That's so cool. You know, it's funny. I had a buddy who'd been making pots for a long, long time and he came over and he said, you know, I've been doing this for 30 years and I've never seen that idea. I said, okay, i mean it wasn't my idea, but yeah, cool. so Then one lady said to me on my Instagram, she said, you should sell those things. I said that. I never really thought about it. I was just making them for my own production. I said, okay. so I made a bunch and put them online and they went crazy for a few months. They sold like nuts. Who knew?
00:11:35
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Absolutely loved it. yeah So now, before becoming a hand builder, you used to throw a lot on the wheel. Why did you decide to make the switch from wheel thrower to hand builder?
Transition to Hand Building
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Wheel throwing is messy. No, before I got this great studio I have here, it's a huge studio. you know I had little tiny spaces that didn't have a lot of heat. So I actually have up on my shelf right there, I have an electric teapot that I would heat up water and pour it in and then throw. to keep the warm water warm and then wedging really cold clay in upstate New York in the winter. It really hurts your hands a lot and I wanted a little bit more control over the clay so I started using this really high grog body that I got from Alfred and just building with it and then I realized, and well actually I remember the moment, gosh, six, seven years ago sitting at the wheel
00:12:26
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and looking at a cylinder I had just thrown, and I'm letting it spin real slow, and I'm looking at it and going, hmm, what do I want to make out of that now? And I realized I'm stuck with that. I either have, and this ah for me on the wheel, you can either throw a cylinder, a bowl, or a plate. I feel like with hand building, I can make any form I can think of. So I just started messing with it and it's it's kind of my main main forming now. Did you find it difficult to switch from being a wheel thrower after so many years into hand building? Yeah. I had to keep asking questions. I had to watch videos. I mean, Ceramic Arts Daily, Ceramics Monthly has a great like a library of videos of other people hand building. And I would just watch them profusely and go, that is really cool. you know And I'd write that down.
00:13:15
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um Back in November when the golf season was over, I signed up for a workshop um with Jen Allen. Jen Allen makes amazing pots. and ah I sat there and I put the laptop right here on my desk and I sat here and took notes and I probably learned you know five or six great ideas. and You see somebody do it one way and you go, oh shit, never thought of that. I just kept doing it. so Now it's they're getting better and better, I think. How long did it take you until you were a little bit more satisfied with how they were starting to come out? Probably about a year, I'd say. For me, with hand building, with wheel throwing, I could kind of make, I could throw the pot as light as I wanted. And with hand building, it took a while to be able to control the walls to where they weren't too heavy. So, especially the clay that I use, it can be pretty heavy. But I'm actually, I'm not really looking for a super light pot. I'm looking for a fun, functional pot. And so I just want people to use it. And I want it to be used, and I want it to look cool enough when it sits on the shelf. Kind of.
00:14:14
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But yeah, it took a while. I absolutely love that. So now, what are three things you think handbuilders should know to be able to make the best possible pots for themselves?
Tools and Techniques for Handbuilders
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That's another really good question, Nick. You've done some work, some research. I love it. That's a great question. I bought a slab roller a couple of years ago. It was a big investment. I think it was like $1,500 for that thing. But that really kind of makes the work go way faster. And it gives you a pretty consistent slab if you're going to slab build. For coil building, I would say also you could make the investment to get a wall extruder and extrude a bunch of coils because squeezing them and rolling them can gets kind of wears your hands out a lot. I just bought a funny thing here. I'll show you. I just got this two days ago in the mail. of Speaking of you know learning all the time, I saw this guy mark a Borges, B-O-R-G-E-S. this is It's just a board with these little feet on the bottom.
00:15:11
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and you adjust the feet and then you put this on the table, you just roll a slat you roll the coil. I was like, that's brilliant. i so when i'm yeah I would say, learn to conserve your hands so you don't hurt your hands, get yourself arthritis. so yeah that's my That's my point. Absolutely love that. Definitely agree. that's a that's a I saw that too on Instagram too. That's that's a neat. Right? And it was like 25 bucks. I'm like, that's brilliant. I mean, I could make it, but, you know, support another artist for 25 bucks. Why not? Yep. Absolutely love that. I'm stoked. I'm going to cover it with stickers. It's going to be cool. Or maybe have my kids draw on it. Love it. So can you briefly walk me through the steps you take when creating one of your... You know, sometimes I just get inspiration. I get an inspiration from seeing people on
00:15:59
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on instagram and i go oh that's a cool form so i want to make something like that form in my style you know and sometimes i'll start off drawing on where my book is i got a couple of books up here that i i doodle in because if i get an idea i got i gotta to put that down on paper real fast so sometimes it starts out with a drawing excuse me sometimes it starts out with seeing a cool shape on instagram Or sometimes it starts out with me just going, I got an idea. And then I just kind of lay in bed and can't fall asleep until I figure out how I want to make it. And then I got to get up and write it down. It depends on the shape, really. Yeah, I'll start with the base. Usually I'll roll out a slab and then start with my base. And it's I'm either going to start it off one of these or I'm going to start it off with a flat flat base or a bowl base. And then just build off of that and then just start
00:16:48
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make it. A lot of times actually you know people, I'm pretty well known for my live videos on Instagram because I go live all the time just because I'm lonely in the studio. I want to talk to people. Sometimes I'll start off making something and mid-pot it turns into something totally different. And people say, geez, you don't start off with an idea. I say, well, sometimes I do. And sometimes the clay takes me in a different direction. I start making the teapot and say, it's going to be a jar now because I don't like the way the neck is going. So I just cut it off and make it into a jar. Absolutely love that. Shaping Nation, sometimes your ideas aren't always going to come to life. So sometimes you have to listen to what the clay wants so that you can make the best possible pot for yourself. Absolutely. Don't force the clay to do something it doesn't want to do.
00:17:31
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Absolutely. So now you mentioned that you would sometimes look at another person's pot and you try to make that in your own style. What does that look like? How does that process
Finding Inspiration and Maintaining Uniqueness
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look like? Let me see. I have a couple of little things right here. Speaking of which, there's a guy he's at. He's in Chicago. Hold on. I got pots right here. ah Sorry, I keep leaving the area. Getting up and leaving that thing. So I saw him, he made one of these little like, His little like Japanese teapots you know with the big handle. you know You hold it sideways and pour it this way. and He threw one that was really cool. and I was like, wow, I like that shape, but I want to hand build it. so This was my first attempt at hand building his beautiful pot. His is way better. but You know what I mean? I saw that really cool old Japanese teapot shape.
00:18:21
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And I was like, oh, i can I can slab build that. So yeah, usually she starts with seeing a cool pot, which there's plenty of on Instagram. I absolutely love that shape nation. It's okay to model other potters potter and their pottery. Just try to make it to your own style. I love that. Yeah, absolutely. You don't want to copy anybody, but you know i mean there's so many different pots. You're never going to be the first person that made a pot that way. The pottery's been around for a hundred years, or well, thousands of years if you think of the people a long time ago. but Absolutely.
00:18:55
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So let's talk about discovering your voice. Can you tell me about the moment when you knew you were heading in the right direction with your potter? When people started reacting to it, ah when good potters started saying, hey, man, that's a great pot. Yeah, because I remember thinking, you know, yeah I mean, as an artist, you're like, you make something and you go, it kind of sucks. But then somebody else will say, that's great. So I remember taking, I started messing around with Terrace Edulata when my studio was up in the back of my property five or six years ago. I took a bowl that I made and I put it on a rock and took a picture of it. And I remember looking at the picture thinking,
00:19:30
Speaker
that's That's a really nice pot. That doesn't often happen, I think, as an artist, or for me at least, where I make something that I really like. you know Other people love it. I always go, eh, I don't know why that happens. I think it's an artist thing. but so yeah my My voice kind of came when my years of experimentation turned into people saying, I like what you're doing right now. Absolutely love that. I built on that. so now What would you say was your biggest obstacle when it came to finding your own
Overcoming Fear and Planning a Pottery Career
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voice? Fear, maybe? Fear of like changing changing the way I make stuff?
00:20:07
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fear that it might not be good, which is rare for me. like i I like to just wing it. John Gill said to me one time, he said, never fall in love with the pot you make, because you can always make another one. So I'm i'm pretty good, I think, at going, eh, don't like it. so Crush it up, throw it away, start again. So once I got over that, yeah, I think it was just being able to. And you know what really helps that, I think, is having your own studio space. Tell me more about that. because you can leave your crap all over the place and nobody cares except you. you know i mean like If you're in a community studio, you got to put your stuff away, put your tools away, wipe your table, clean up the wedging table and all that stuff. My my wheel right there, if I showed you my wheel, you would laugh so hard. It's over there. It's just filthy. It's full of like dry old pieces of clay because why clean it? I throw it once every six months. so and It's much easier to scoop out when it's dry.
00:21:04
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yeah Yeah, lose the fear, make a mess. So now, if somebody doesn't have their own studio space, what advice would you give to help them get over that fear? Just keep doing it. Like like like John said, just don't fall in love with every every pot you make. It's okay to have something be be crappy. you know That's how you learn, really. you know It's like I say when I teach when i teach golf to kids. and like you know You're not good enough to be that mad. just you know It's going to take time. Just keep at it.
00:21:35
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Just keep going. Keep making pots. Ask questions. Ask questions. Definitely agree. Shaping Nation. Make crappy pots, but keep on making a lot of pottery because that's how you're going to get over that fear of whatever fear you have with your pottery. I love that. So now, what new opportunities started coming your way once you found your own voice? Yeah. So once people really started kind of liking my pots and kind of following me on Instagram and people were spreading the word like, hey, go watch Mike. i try to i try to I just show people how I do it. i do That's when I go live. I say, this is how I do this, and this is how I do that. and It was pretty cool. I was out in Sica, and people kept coming up to me and going, God, thanks so much. I learned so much from you. I watch all your videos. I was like, no problem. That's that's great. Yes. Now, a couple of years ago, i was I'm at a gallery called the Plough Gallery in Tifton, Georgia, which is run by a guy named Mark Errol, who is a great dude. He invited me to Pentaculum at Aromont. which was just being surrounded by amazing potters and hanging out with them for a week was really nice. So since then, I started teaching more workshops online. I teach some local workshops. I was in ceramics monthly last year, which is right there.
00:22:49
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That one. That was really cool. That was huge. And I'm teaching a workshop in Aromont in October this year at the end of October, which is down in Gatlinburg, Tennessee. It's a really cool place to hang out. So I'm excited about that. And it's sold out too. It's 12 people signed up ready. So the opportunities are coming. And it's great because I'm 53 now and I kind of don't want to You know, be too busy in the golf world anymore because it's kind of a crazy six months of the year. It's just nuts. Like I'm sure people are trying to call me right now. i I kind of want to try to build a retirement in clay. So I'm sort of making, I'm sort of building the steps to where I can just say, okay, I'm not going to do golf anymore. I'm just going to be a potter. We'll see how that goes. So you mentioned that you were featured in ceramics monthly. What were you feeling when you were featured in ceramics monthly?
00:23:36
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You know, it's really funny. You know, going to Alfred and being a self-taught potter was a very interesting place, you know, because I think although I got constant encouragement from great great people, it's kind of also like, hey, you're not a university educator, you're just a potter in your garage. And then when my pots started being pretty good, they started saying, wow, I mean, because i understand they want to teach you they want you to go to school but there's other ways to do it than just to spend a lot of money so when i was in school there i mean the ultimate goal for any potter was to be in ceramics monthly so for me that was like probably never gonna happen and then i think it was two thousand twenty i think it was yeah
00:24:19
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A couple of years ago, I was sitting there with my wife watching TV while half watching and how you watch TV and scroll Instagram at the same time, right? I got a message from the editor of ceramics monthly and I read the first sentence and I went and I handed it to my wife. I go, read this. I can't even read it. I was like, holy shit. And she goes, wow. israel So they said, we love your pots. We want to feature you in a ah ah teapot. So the teapot I made is up there on the shelf and it's it's overwhelming and awesome at the same time and really happy to be a part of that. Jen Harnetti is amazing. Now I'm doing an online workshop called Workshop from Home. I'm going to do that in November. That's a two-hour workshop. So sign up and come make pots with me. November 13th.
00:25:03
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Absolutely love that. So now what advice would you give to someone looking to discover their own unique voice with their
Embracing Mistakes and Seeking Feedback
00:25:09
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pottery? Your unique voice? Again, it comes back to just making mistakes. you know Sometimes a mistake turns into something great. You know so you can you could just you know overlap two glazes by accident and go, that combination is amazing. and Then you just run down that rabbit hole of of those glaze combinations. Yeah, you know put your pots out there. Don't be afraid to put your pots out there. you know Enter shows. If you want to get out there, enter these pottery shows. I just sent a couple of pots to Strictly Functional, which I'm excited. I hope I get into that. Throw them out there.
00:25:43
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Ask questions, go to the community studios, and take advantage of local people that want to share their knowledge. Absolutely greasy. Excellent advice right there. Mike, it's been great chatting today and as we come to a close here, what is one thing you want to hammer home with my listeners today? Have fun. Just have fun. o Clay is fun. ah you know Same thing I tell people with golf. If you're not having fun, do something else. It's like there's not enough, you know, days in this lifetime to not enjoy yourself. I think better pots come out of you when you're enjoying it. And there's not too much you can't enjoy about making pots. So have fun. Absolutely agree. Some ex imparting words of advice. Mike, it's been so great challenge today. Where can my listeners go and learn more about you?
00:26:25
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Let's see, Mike Griffin Ceramics on Instagram mostly is where I'm at. and you know This is the first year in about 15 years that I'm actually putting aside time on Friday mornings to turn off my phone from the golf course and make pots. Normally, I'm too busy during the golf season to to make pots. I block my calendar every Friday for the whole summer because like I don't want to be away from it and I want to be there for my for my followers too. So Instagram and then check out Ceramics Monthly. I'll be on that in November. And Frank Arts, frankarts.com, I'm doing a web ah webinar for them too in November. So two in November. Thanks for listening to this episode of Shaping Your Potter.
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If you are struggling with finding your own theme for your pottery so that you know you are known for something, I put together 53 themes that you can use and you can take. All you have to do is go to shapingyourpottery.com or slash 53 themes. That's five three themes to get these 53 themes. It's really important for you to find a theme for your pottery so that you're not going to get burnt out. you You can have multiple styles with your pottery and you can be known for something. So again, go to shapingyourpottery.com forward slash 53 themes. That's five three themes to get these 53 themes. Thanks guys. I'll see you guys next time.