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S5 E11: Take my strong hand
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From the full MCU Phase 5 and 6 line up, through to a tonne of reviews of movies and TV shows, and finishing strong with a rundown of those video games we just can't stop ourselves from going back to again and again, this episode has it all... and it's less than 3 hours for a change!
Beers reviewed this episode:
- Earth Beer Company - Mango Weisse Bier - Witbier - 4.2%
- Slow Lane Brewing - Regal Authority - 16C Weissbier - 6%
- Bright Brewery - Hellfire - Amber Ale - 5%
- Slow Lane Brewing - Threefold - Belgian Tripel - 8.4%
- One Drop Brewing - Salted Caramel Pecan Mudcake - Imperial Pastry Stout - 10.9%
- Dainton Beer - Burnout - Black IPA - 6.5%
- Bracket Brewing - Fresh Static - Imperial NEIPA - 8%
- 3 Ravens - Fresh Roast Brown Ale - Brown Ale - 5.2%
- White Bay Beer Co - Porter w\ Coconut & Cacao Nibs - Porter - 6%
- Dainton Beer - Crumblicious - Stout - 7.1%
- Mountain Culture, Banks & Range Brewing - Nicki - Milkshake IPA - 7.7%
- Garage Project - Surrender to the Void: Choconanacado - Imperial Stout - 11.5%
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Transcript
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And
Podcast Introduction and Overview
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we're back. Welcome back to another episode of Pixels and Pints. I am one of your hosts this evening, Tom. With me, Pete. Howdy. And Dan. Hi. You put on your best love song dedications voice that time. Oh, yeah. We're going to be cruising through your Monday night.
00:00:50
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listening to some lovely tunes. Now I'm leaning into it. Well done. Uh, no, we, uh, what are we reviewing tonight? We're doing a couple of us, uh, having, having some beers. We're going to have some talks about all the news from Comic Con. Got a couple of trailers, talk about games, comics, movies, everything, everything, everything, everything, and whatever's in between. Uh, so let's talk about everything and everything in between.
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Very complex topic. Dan forgot to change his calendar over last month, so he's only just realized that he skipped dry July, so he's doing a one day detox in, as just a tip of the hat to dry July. That's Dan's dry July. He won't be drying beers tonight.
Dan's Dry July Rant
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I don't fucking, I don't believe in Dry July. I believe in the good cause that it goes for, but just fucking, just, just either fucking do it or don't do it. Like you don't, you don't need, what's these, uh, sober, like there's, there's a fucking acronym, not an acronym. There's a fucking slate. Look, you've got me on a rant and we haven't even started anything.
00:01:52
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He's not even drinking. So does that mean that, is that why you didn't come to my Christmas in July party, Dan? Yeah, definitely. Dave, Dave, the sales manager for, um, New South Wales sales manager for Bentspoke, he's, uh, he would always fucking say to me, I'm doing like sober October. Like there was a, there was something for like every month. I'm like, Dave, you told me this fucking every month.
Beer Reviews and Discussions
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every month and you last like 10 days. So you take title and move on. Yeah. It's like either stop drinking or slow it down. You don't have to like ban yourself every time it comes to some, some month with something gone. Anyway. Yes. Continue. Well, continue while I do my part that I should have done earlier and fucking fill in the run sheet. Cool. Do you want to kick off with some beers, Tom, just to add some irony to all of that rant?
00:02:45
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Well, yeah, I'm gonna have to drink if it keeps going on those ones. I am drinking tonight for my first beer, Earth Beer Company, from up northern New South Wales, Byron Way. It is their mango vice beer. It's 4.2%, and it's just a, what do they say, it's, they use the mangoes from their 100 year old mango tree that's located on the farm the brewery's on, so. Did you say varnour, please?
00:03:14
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No, Byron. Final of the New South Wales. Final of the New South Wales. Yes. That's weird territory. It is a nice looking, pretty much. Yeah. Influencer territory. I quite like to design the candle. I like that label. I think that label's pretty cool. It is. It's horribly lined up at the back, but that's fine. We'll give them that one. That was stone when they were putting the labels on, man. It's all good.
00:03:43
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It's not the biggest mango hit in a mango vice I like more of that vice is coming through like it's yeah it's I would I would expect and probably a bit more of that juiciness of the mangoes going off and for the saying on the back it is there they did say it's a summer seasonal release and it's.
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I was packaged on the 10th of March, but yeah that so it's a little older, but yeah the mango is just not really there It's there, but it's it's not really there. It's but it's quite refreshing. It's good and yeah Give it a solid you know four four pixels out of five points Let's go with that cool
00:04:21
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Well done, Tom. You did good. Okay. So I'm continuing on my little historic beer journey that I started last episode. So I'm drinking Slow Lane Brewing's Regal Authority, which is a 16th century vice beer.
00:04:39
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I presume that 16th century style, not brewed in the 16th century, because I'm pretty sure it'll be off by now. They've used, obviously, it's wheat and pilsner for the malt, magnum hops and
Marvel Phase 5 Announcements
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a German wheat, and Brettonimiasis yeasts.
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Because I'm such a, like, because I'm such a non-nerd when it comes to beer, it would have been helpful if I thought this through and just had a normal- I was wondering where that was going next to the 16th century. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you guys feel free to finish that sentence in far more offensive ways because I'm such a, but no, it's good. It is very bready. It's quite, it's very dry.
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Yeah, we don't want to use the C-bomb button this early. And you're also muted, Dan. That's why I was saying it. Because I was muted. Right. Oh, friendship. Yeah. Really, Brady? Oh, no, I'd say it to him. It just wasn't fit for the public ears. Yeah, I hear you. Yeah. I mean, look, it's a wheat beer, so it tastes like a wheat beer. It's exactly what you'd expect.
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but almost mouth-puckeringly dry. So, just very crisp, almost apple cider crisp and apple cider dry, if that makes sense. It's good. Not knowing what to expect, I can only give it a four, I suppose. Barrel aged for four months and naturally sailed through the microflora living in the wood. There you go, nice.
00:06:22
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I've got to try more slow that stuff. Every time you've spoken about them. And I mean, I had their Ruaka Hazy Pail and that was the last one I had of theirs and that was probably at least six to eight months ago. And it was fantastic. And I haven't had any of their traditional styled ones. So I really do need to pull my finger out and grab some of them. Yeah, I know. They've done some really cool stuff. I love the fact that they are bringing back
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or re-brewing really old school traditional recipes in a world where we're moving further and further away from the definition of beer, it's certainly changing. It's cool to see them bringing back some old school stuff. Yeah, what was Liam talking about to us yesterday? Blueberry, bubblegum, something, something. I'm like, ah, smoothies. Ah, smoothies. Yeah, yeah, yeah, nah. Let's kick off with some news, shall we?
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Yes. Sad news first. Sad news first. Coder's delayed. Coder's delayed. Yeah, two of the leads got let go because they presented, apparently from the bits and pieces I read one, Tom, that you sent through and then I looked a little bit further into it, that
00:07:40
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The game dev team presented a demo that they were really happy with to the, uh, the executives. Yeah. The company that pays them to make the money. Investors. Yeah. Distributors, whatever that, whatever the parent company is of them and they, they weren't happy with it. And it's like, okay. It's like, what are you, what are you trying to do with this? If the dev team's happy with it? It's a remake, isn't it?
00:08:08
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It's a remake, but it's a ground up remake. And like, it's quite, I'm going to get into it later on because it's one of the ones on my list. And I've played the first one, the first half of it a couple of times and never the end of it. And I've played the second one. I've never played Coda. I've played the second one through all the way a couple of times. I always go back to them. So they are going to revamp the combat.
00:08:35
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gameplay because it is very outdated. It is very of its time. Right. They're going to have to do, I mean, they're rebuilding all the maps and everything from ground up. They're going to have to redo all the voice acting. It's an absolute 110% ground up rebuild. And more than, I know they're calling it a remake, but I reckon it's going to be more of a reimagining than an actual remake of the original game. Sounds like it. Yeah. And I wonder, I'd love to know
00:09:04
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whether the devs were leading more into a remake than a re-imagining and the execs were imagining something that was more a re-imagining with microtransactions and a whole bunch of shit thrown in there. So I'd love to know what that was, but two of the leads have been let go, but it's now been potentially. One was an art director and there's something else like that. But like senior art director.
00:09:32
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Yeah, so that's a that's a big bomber. I was really looking forward to that. But it is what it is. And it was ambitious for Aspire to inspire the entertainment company behind it. And they've really just done straight ports like of the old Star Wars games. So they did. I think we talked about that a couple of episodes ago, actually. Well, yeah, because they did Republic Commando. They did episode one racer. They've been bringing all the old games on to modern. But they're they're straight ports. Like it's still
00:10:02
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plays like it did, you know, on the 64, it still looks like 64 graphics just runs now on the on the engine. So it was ambitious for him to go, hey, we're going to actually do this from the ground up. But hey, they've yeah, well, they said now I was meant to come out, they were planning for this year or next year, and now they're looking more like 2025. So
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You know, hopefully they get to get around to actually making it because, yeah, I'd be so keen to jump back into that, especially a reimagined version. And the amount of hours that you drop into those original ones, and I know it's probably more hours you drop into them because the combat was a lot slower. It wasn't fast-paced in any way, shape or form. But
00:10:43
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I think there's still a hundred hours there of running around in the Old Republic and learning that story of Revan and all
Game Delays and Development
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that. There's a lot of meat there, and if they were going to remake it, hopefully that meat was going to come into canon as well, but there it happens. We'll have to wait and see. And then the other one was the game that no one asked for, the Lord of the Rings Golem game has also been delayed. Oh, didn't get delayed, did it?
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Yeah, they've pushed it back. It was just kind of like, I don't know, when they first announced that I was like, of all the characters, like a little sneaking like, you know, Metal Gear Solid sneak like stealth games. It's like a thief faced around Gollum. Yeah. There's already a little sneaky goblin game called Styx and it's, there's two of them. The first one was pretty good. I haven't heard
00:11:37
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the much, much good about the second one. But the first one was pretty good. And he is a golem sized character, not in the Lord of the Rings world, but he's a sneaky, sneaky, stabby, stabby little, little goblin dude. And that's what he does. That was exactly what I had in my head for this golem game. That was pretty much what it was going to be.
00:12:03
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It literally looks like you're just going to be, it's a crawling simulator. Just crawling around like, anyway. You did that way too many times. Yeah.
00:12:19
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over your lifetime. What, just now on the podcast or over my lifetime? You're telling me I only took five seconds and you're saying it's old. To have gotten it, to have gotten it down, down pat that much. Sorry, I'm getting heaps of lag from you guys. It's my internet. It's usually fucking shocking. It's probably downloading Steam updates for all year. Oh shit, Steam is open. I just opened it up for you.
00:12:44
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No, nothing there. Yeah. Okay. Don't know. Maybe your wife's watching Netflix or something. It's a problem with the fucking national broadband network. Our internet's fucked thanks to our government. Yeah, no, I used to sit there and practice the soliloquy between, what's his name and Gollum? Smeagol. Smeagol, thank you. I don't know how that slipped my mind. Yeah, just for fun. Anyway, big news from the San Diego Comic Con.
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Is it San Diego? Yeah, it was. And the biggest news that came out of it, because there were shit loads, was Marvel's revealed the entirety of phase five. So phase four is done. Thor, Love and Thunder was the last release title in phase four. So they've released, they've told us everything they're giving us in phase five. And then they've given us three titles in phase six so far.
00:13:38
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Which is kind of surprising, because Phase 6 isn't slated to start until 2024. Like, towards the end of 2024. That's not that far away. When you... True on like... It's only two years. And at the same time... And at the same time, considering we've got like 30 fucking titles in Phase 5, it's quite a lot of movies away. And is that... Is that everything in that little map you've dropped in there? There's no... That's TV shows and movies. Yes.
00:14:07
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Correct. And look, a lot of these are TV shows. So we start with Ant and Wasp, Quantum Mania, February 17. And like, as you said, Tom, that's where we're going to meet Kang again, or re-meet Kang. I think it's the big bad for that movie. We've got, actually, I should, sorry, I should mention Phase 4 still has a couple of titles yet to drop. So She-Hulk is part of Phase 4, my understanding.
00:14:34
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Was that waiting for confirmation or was that? Yeah, it kind of was because it's not on the slate. So. Well, yeah, there's a few more things to come out this year. So I would assume that's the, they're kind of the tail end of phase four. Yeah. Phase 4.5. I was under the impression that Thor, Love and Thunder was, maybe that's just the last movie. I think that might be the last big film. Yeah. Yeah, right.
00:15:00
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Cause you do have the IM group miniseries, um, She-Hulk. I think there might be... Actually, I'm sorry. Black Panther Wakanda is the last one. Oh, is that a movie? That's the last movie. I thought that was a series. Yeah. No. No, no. Wakanda Forever is the next movie. Yeah.
00:15:18
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It looks good. Yeah, so now that's that's gonna be the end because yeah, I missed all of that. I don't know why I missed all that. That's really weird. Sorry, sorry listeners. And that changed it right. So Fantastic Four got pushed back. That was originally dumb.
00:15:35
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put on the phase format as was Blade. So, or at least they were announced and confirmed, but anyway, they moved everything around. Thanks COVID. Fuck you. So phase five, we get quantum and men and wasp on a mania in February. We get secret invasion, which I believe is a Disney plus TV series.
00:15:57
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Nick Fury, baby, and the Skrulls. That's Spring. Yeah, that's going to be fun. Guardians of the Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3 is in May next year. The Echo TV series, where we know Charlie Cox, I think we talked about that last episode, Charlie Cox and Vincent Inofrio are reprising their roles. Obviously, Charlie Cox is in She-Hulk as well, so that kind of establishes him in the MCU to continue in Echo.
00:16:24
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news a little while back to that John Balthenthall, Balthenthall, however you pronounce his last name, was going to come back through as the Punisher as well. I'm not sure if it was confirmed or if it was just phantom. Fan those flames. Fan those rumors. I would love for him to come back as Punisher. He was perfect for it.
00:16:45
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And that guy's just fucking hit goals for everything that he's been in recently too. Loki season two, summer 2023, along with the Marvels, which the Marvels, is that a movie or a TV series? I thought it was TV. That is, that is a movie. Okay. Yeah. Which if you, if you guys have finished Miss Marvel, leads directly into that. That was excellent, by the way. Like the finale for Miss Marvel was excellent.
00:17:11
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Blade November 3rd, 2023, along with the Ironheart series in fall. So that's another Disney Plus series. We should point out that these seasons are Northern Hemisphere seasons we're referring to as well. Correct. Yeah, you're right. When we say spring and summer. What's Ironheart? Yeah. Ironheart is a young girl who in comics managed to reverse engineer an Ironman suit and then took over from Tony Stark. Yep.
00:17:41
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And they're going to lean heavily into a Wakandan connection, I'm pretty sure. Yeah, I would presume so, because these vinyl suit was very Wakandan heavy as well, from memory. Like a lot of the tech had been adapted. Agatha Covens of Chaos, which is the movie in winter. That was the show. Is it? Yep. Okay.
00:18:02
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Well, fuck. Winter 2023-24. So that's going to be Christmas time, basically. Then we lead into Daredevil, born again, Disney Plus series. That's going to be Charlie Cox's kind of series. They're also talking about the reimagining of the Daredevil character. The suit that they've already kind of leaked images of is more the red and yellow suit from some of the comic runs.
00:18:28
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Who's rotating the image? So for those listening, Dan's just decided to randomly rotate the fucking image that we're reading from. So yes, at the end of the She-Hulk trailer, you see the red and yellow. Which I think is the first one. Are you putting it back or am I putting it back?
00:18:53
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No, I put it back. It's just delayed. You shouldn't be doing anything that eats more internet bandwidth, sucker. Captain America New World Order, May 3rd, 2024, and then Thunderbolts in July, 2024. That's phase four. Sorry, that's phase five. That's a pretty fucking big lineup for what amounts to 18 months. Yeah. Yeah, that's a lot back to back. That's kind of caps it off. Yeah.
00:19:22
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Well, um, then we get into phase six and interestingly, the only three things that they have confirmed so far is Fantastic Four, uh, in November 2000, in November to 24. Yep. Uh, and then two Avengers movies back to back. So Avengers, the Kang dynasty in May, and then Avengers secret wars in November.
00:19:45
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of 2025. Of 2025, that's right. So, but to get two Avengers films in the same year is pretty crazy, really. I mean, if you think about it, Thunderbolts is kind of an Avengers film, just true Avengers. Oh, look, and they're all, I mean, so much of what we're watching. I mean, so much of phase five is built around the core Avengers. I mean, she went, you know, and, and four, so you've got, you've got Thor, you've got She-Hulk, you've got, and obviously Hulk's in She-Hulk.
00:20:16
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here in Captain America in phase five. So it's all still built around the Avengers like phases one, two, and three.
00:20:25
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So yeah, I mean, it's pretty exciting. It's a big lineup and I'm glad that we're starting to see some new characters come in that, again, are going to kind of shake up the party dynamic, if you like, for the core group. So we've had a few exit. It's interesting to see what talent they're bringing in to kind of replace the personalities and how that's going to influence the dynamics for established characters that are still in the series.
00:20:52
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I think that's kind of cool. It's funny to see that a lot of people after Endgame were saying, oh, they'll bring Tony Stark back and this and that. He'll be their AI, or there'll be some version of Tony Stark in there.
00:21:09
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And the new series. And they've just gone, they're not, they're dead. That's it. They're done. They're not coming back. We're not doing a retread of the comic books where everybody has a million dollars. No, they need to move forward. And absolute props to them for sticking to their guns and- Having the balls. And going with this.
00:21:30
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Being creative and not killing off the character that launched MCU i mean he is the first i mean i had to i mean that was that was that that was the idea way to do it and just to just to bring in more likeable characters as you flow along and just.
00:21:47
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not make people forget about those characters that came beforehand. But like you're saying, have the dynamics there, but elevate it and move it to the next phase and keep pushing on rather than continuously looking backwards. Sorry, Star Wars. Continuously looking backwards, moving forwards. And it's something we really haven't seen to this scale ever before.
00:22:13
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Yeah, I mean, yeah, did come out over the weekend, though. I don't know if you saw that article that John Favreau actually argued against killing him off. He was like, you can't. Yeah, the Russo brothers to keep him alive at the end rather than kill him off. But I agree. I'm glad, like, I'm not glad that they killed the character off. I think it's definitely has that more impactful meaning in that to have him as that kind of, you know,
00:22:40
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He did his sacrifice and everyone moves forward for him. But yeah. Well, they've got to create room. He was such a big personality, such a big character. And he was so important to the MCU that like they have already started and can continue to play off the back of the tragedy of his loss, which helps push the plot forward.
PlayStation Updates
00:22:58
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But they had to create the vacuum by taking him out so that other personalities could kind of step up to the plate. Cool. To move on to PS Plus.
00:23:20
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Yeah, there's three, three, the three games. These are the games you get to keep. If you keep your PlayStation down PS Plus and you download them, one and two, the remake. So, you know, that defined many of my friends kind of gaming generation. They all started on Tony Hawks. That's how they got into most of them got into gaming. Yakuza, like a dragon looks insane. I've heard really good things about it, though. So actually might.
00:23:33
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Tom, I don't know why you announced this because I don't find it all that interesting. Look at the three free games.
00:23:46
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I might give that a crack. And then I haven't heard much about Little Nightmares, but it's a little indie platform. Yeah, side scrolling platform with the art styles great and the levels are really good. It's really monstrous and over the top and it's almost got that
00:24:08
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Really creepy Wallace and Gromit feel to it with some of the some of the monsters that look like some of them look like they could be claymation puppets and Just just how the art styles are really really great. They are kind of fucking creepy out there and I really enjoyed it I played it all the way through over a couple of days and just yeah really enjoyed it haven't haven't jumped into two yet because it's It can be played to player or you play both of them. I don't know
00:24:37
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But I will play it. I will play it eventually at some stage, but with Little Nightmares is well worth it. It's fun, little, little creepy little platformer. Yeah. And they PlayStation also announced there the PlayStation Stars Loyalty Program, which is the second time they've tried to do a little loyalty program.
00:24:59
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They did want a few things, PS rewards, they called it. But it seemed to only really take off in the US.
00:25:09
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Yeah, this one's, you know, you play certain games. If you, if you get certain trophies or you're the first one to platinum and you release, you get credits on the PlayStation store. Yeah. So it's, it translates to real money in terms of cost savings. It's not real money. They're not paying you, but yeah. Yeah. Reduce the cost of beneficial and considering I'm pretty sure you can buy hardware on the PlayStation store. If you access it from the internet, like from a PC, I don't know if that'll translate to being able to buy hardware or order hardware.
00:25:36
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at a discount, right? That'd be kind of cool. That would be very cool. Save $100 off your PlayStation VR 2 or something.
00:25:44
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Yeah,
Tributes to Bernard Cribbins and Nichelle Nichols
00:25:45
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definitely. Couple of- What's next? Yeah, a couple of losses, unfortunately. So, Bernard Cribbins played the Donna's father in Doctor Who. So, he was a really important character in David Tennant's Doctor Who. He was the old man that was
00:26:08
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Ultimately, and we're talking like a decade, so spoilers if you haven't fucking seen it, but he was ultimately responsible for David Tennant's doctor dying. David Tennant actually, from memory, sacrificed himself and absorbed the radiation that the grandfather took and ultimately led to saving him but killing Tennant's doctor.
Indonesia's Internet Laws Impact
00:26:32
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So, Bernard Cribbins passed away.
00:26:34
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Um, and Nichelle Nichols, who played Lieutenant Ulhura from the original Star Trek, uh, has also passed away. I think she was late 80s, 89 something. Um, so yeah, a bit of sad news. Couple of, you know, if you're a Dr. Who fan, then it's important. If you're not, then probably not. Uh, he was in a lot of BBC kind of English stuff. Um, and certainly Nichelle Nichols is well fucking known. So yeah.
00:27:05
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And I found this next piece of news really interesting in terms of how good we have it and how easy it is for us to take it for granted, how good our society actually is in Australia or in, you know, probably America as well. The Indonesian government has just blocked a bunch of online services. They've basically created a raft of new laws that says that if you operate an online service
00:27:26
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Yeah, a bit of a, bit of a sad note.
00:27:31
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That's accessible by Indonesian citizens than you have to sign up to this new law. That allows the government to tell the streaming companies when they find content that is considered to be unlawful according to. There are communications ministry and give those streaming companies 24 hours to remove the unlawful material.
00:27:53
Speaker
And if they deem it urgent, they get four hours to remove that unlawful material. So as a result, a bunch of companies said, fuck you, we're not signing up to this bill. And so the Indonesian government has now blocked access to 240 million people in Indonesia from accessing shit like
00:28:10
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So, in the video games context of the podcast, Steam, Epic Game Store, Nintendo Online, Electronic Arts, and Ubisoft's platforms have all just been shut down. But they also shut down PayPal and Yahoo amongst a bunch of others. Government just said, well, if you don't sign up to our rules, then fuck you, we're shutting you down. Now- I'd be very interested to see what they deem as unlawful.
00:28:36
Speaker
Well, it's whatever they like and these companies have said, well, it's not so much that we've got a problem removing unlawful stuff, but it affects everyone equally. Like we're not a region-based service, not country-based, they are region-based. And to give us four hours to say, I don't like that you had digital boobs in that game that you just published to steam early access, so please remove it.
00:28:58
Speaker
Like it's pretty hardcore in terms of demands. And it is a big deal considering, like I wrote down, Indonesia is the fourth most populous country in the world, 270 million people. So it is a big deal. Yeah. What dicks? What dicks? Fair enough. So that doesn't surprise me. Yes. You don't need to get political.
00:29:28
Speaker
Yeah, I was going to say not touching it. Do you want to stand by my comments? Do you want to? Well, hang on. Indonesia coup? No, I think
Saints Row Reboot Anticipation
00:29:41
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I'm thinking Thailand. No, Indonesia. Indonesia hasn't had a coup since the 60s. There was something about the Imelda Marcos, the Marcos family got kicked out and they
00:29:52
Speaker
I had to get away or something. Yeah. Ah, yes. It wasn't that. It was a forcible change of leadership. It wasn't, it wasn't a true coup. Thailand had a coup in 2014. It was like, that's when the armed forces takes over the government and just says, fuck you. I've got a tank and- Yeah, but I'm, I'm pretty sure that's okay anyway. I don't, I'm not speaking out of turn. Let's get away from this landmine of crap that we know nothing about.
00:30:17
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Fair enough. You had to go and mention landmines. Let's talk about Saints Row. I knew your words, I could read your body language. Rambo, great film. Yes, Saints Row, the new Saints Row reboot. I guess it's, you would call it Saints Row 5, but they've taken all the zany aliens and hell and
00:30:44
Speaker
Superpowers out and it's going back to what it started out as, which was a, you know, kind of a GTA riff off. Yeah. Yeah. I put, I put, they're still keeping some of the zaniness by the looks of things, but. I put it in the news because I know you guys played it and we've talked about it before. I've never played any of the Saints Row games. So. Yeah. I played three and four and then get out of hell. They're fun. Like they're fun games, but four was just so far from the aliens and shit, wasn't it?
00:31:14
Speaker
Yeah, and you were the president of the world and you had superpowers. Which was great fun. Like wall running up buildings was very enjoyable. Or like through garbage trucks. But yeah, no, this one's gone back to ground level kind of. It's a ground level, but it's yeah.
00:31:34
Speaker
Yeah, it's only gangsters. They're all about the customisation, but yeah, I'll probably jump in. I won't jump in day one, but pretty close, so I'll jump in as soon as I'm finished what I'm playing. It's the next on my list because I don't have much else, so I'll jump in.
00:31:56
Speaker
Yeah, cool. As long as the controls are pretty tight, the controls were always a lot looser than what they were in GTA. The more solid tight-up shooting mechanics and things like that will make the longevity of it go. And the zany units will make it fun to start, I guess. Hmm.
00:32:20
Speaker
Yeah, as long as I get a giant dildo baseball bat again, I did remember that correctly. Yeah. MGM loses the rights to Tomb Raider. So apparently they
Tomb Raider Film Rights
00:32:31
Speaker
had, so MGM owned the rights and were responsible for the 2018 Tomb Raider film release starring Alicia, Alicia Vikander or Alicia Vikander. They had a very faithful, faithful movie to the game as well.
00:32:49
Speaker
They had until I think it was May or June to start filming on their next movie or else they lost the IP rights and they didn't film so Film rights have reverted back to Crystal Diamond Dynamics who are currently shopping the IP rights out and apparently a lot of studios are interested in buying them So yeah, we they have already confirmed we're getting a Tomb Raider
00:33:17
Speaker
reboot. They just don't have a studio attached to it yet. They haven't decided who they're going to sell it to.
00:33:23
Speaker
So I guess if three or four studios are throwing hundreds of millions of dollars at you to buy the IP, then you know you're getting a fucking movie because they wouldn't be buying it if they weren't going to make a movie. Yeah. So. Well, hopefully the movie they make, if they do, if they stick to the game kind of current slogan games, the last three, hopefully it's more like the third and less like the Michael Bay explosions that was the second. Yeah. Yeah. A bit more archaeology would be nice. Not destroying every term she walks into would also be good.
00:33:52
Speaker
Well, that wouldn't be very faithful to the games, though, would it? Well, it'd be faithful to three, not to two. Two is, yeah. I swear, somehow Michael Bay walked in. He's like, you know what, guys? Blow this shit up. It'll be awesome. Everyone will love it. They'll get right behind it. Yeah. Yeah. Fucking idiot. And then the last piece of news is just another example of fuck Ezra Miller.
Ezra Miller and DC Universe Challenges
00:34:13
Speaker
Basically, so and hopefully I explain this properly it because otherwise it's going to confuse the shit out of everyone. So in the Aquaman and the Lost Kingdom movie, Batman plays a role.
00:34:31
Speaker
Michael Keaton was supposed to be that Batman. So he's already filmed scenes for Aquaman 2 as, you know, Michael Keaton's already filmed scenes as Batman because they had assumed that Aquaman would come out after the flash where essentially Ben Affleck came back to hand the Batman baton, that was a bad fucking run of words. Um, there were, you know, Ben Affleck was handing over the Batman cowl to Michael Keaton and then Michael Keaton made sense. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I get, yes.
00:35:01
Speaker
But as part of the the the crossover for Flashpoint right so but because Ezra Miller's cluster fucked the Flash they've pushed the release of Flashback and so Ben Affleck's had to come in and re-film all of Michael Keaton's scenes so now Ben Affleck's going to be back in Aquaman 2. I still want to see Keaton's scenes but which actually if you.
00:35:24
Speaker
Yeah, if you think about it, Ezra Miller has done a really good job of Flashpoint. Because Flashpoint just products the DCU.
00:35:42
Speaker
Did either of you watch the Shazam trailer? The one that I was talking about where they... Yeah. Did you watch it, Pete? Yeah. So for those listening at home that haven't seen it, it's Shazam talking to a psychiatrist and he talks about another superhero that's
00:35:57
Speaker
already dressed in red with a lightning bolt and they show a couple of quick flashes of the flashes. Sorry. They show a quick couple of images of the flash running, but his hands, his arms are strategically placed in front of his face so you can't see the act of playing the flash. Exactly. So Ezra Miller is out. Thank you very much.
00:36:20
Speaker
We should totally fucking get like a DA just, uh, Luke Skywalker straight out of the Mandalorian season, the series as our next flash. Just get a Mark Hamill, DH Mark Hamill. They figured out how to do it reasonably well in Mando. So who do you want to DH?
00:36:35
Speaker
Yeah. I know. That was very random. That was random. Mark Hamill. Sorry. As the trickster, sorry. Before he voiced Joker in just about everything. And Warner Brothers is still banging the fucking drama about doing a crisis on the Infinite Earths movies. They lock half like in. That's all they need.
00:37:06
Speaker
Well, there's, there's kind of the rumor is they got cry crisis in infinite studios. Well, I mean, the rumor, the rumor is that the fan love that Ben Affleck got for the Zack Snyder cut, um, was the reason why he kind of rescinded his statement that he'd never play Batman again.
00:37:29
Speaker
So whether he signs in to do an actual Batman movie or a series of movies, or he just keeps doing these kind of random cameos is like a John Farnham. It's my last ever time I'll play Batman like 11 times in a row. Who knows? I mean, I would love to see. Talking about banging drums. I need to bang this drum again. If we get Affleck back as well as Pattinson, Pattinson's can go off and diverge and do
00:37:54
Speaker
It's noir thing that it's doing. And then you give us Affleck and you give us Arkham. Yeah.
00:38:00
Speaker
you give us Arkham Asylum in all of its zany over the top fucking let the Joker lose have the fucking Titan serum like just do just do fucking Arkham have Bane fucking hooked up being drained out it's like just do the whole things just go fucking balls to the wall and if that's if that's what you're gonna get just have a fucking zany one that side and have the fucking noir Pattinson on that side and we can have have you have your cake and eat it too that'd be cool um where would you put the Joker
00:38:32
Speaker
In like the, when I say, sorry, when I say the Joker, what I mean is the Jaquan Phoenix version of the Joker, which kind of ended in that really fucked up way, recruiting like the people, the Joker's thugs. Which of those two parallel dimensions would he put in? He would have to be in the Pattinson one, and he would have to be
00:38:54
Speaker
the first of the three jokers. If you want to do it that way, then lead into the DC. I reckon you do it that way. And the Joker that talks to the Riddler at the end of the Batman for spoilers that, uh, for a movie that's six months old, sorry. Um, you have him, no, no, no, you have, you have him as a follow on as this, the second Joker as someone who's following and following in the footsteps there. Cause he's way younger.
00:39:22
Speaker
Uh, the, the actor that plays the Joker, uh, and, and he's completely disfigured and scarred. So you just have it as the second Joker and you just, you lean it on, you lean into it. You have the guys that were on the train as.
00:39:36
Speaker
the evolution of the guys wearing the Joker masks from the Joker movie. And that's what we do, just having an evolution. Those two films could quite easily fit into each other 20 years, 30 years apart, 40 years apart, 50 years apart. There you go, listeners. You heard it here first. DCEU sorted.
00:40:00
Speaker
I mean, that's, that's, that's the core. Like, why can't smart people in Hollywood come up with this shit and then just make it work? Why do they dick around with these one shot movies that they talk about turning into like a extended universe series of movies and then clusterfuck the movies? I'll allow all of the, um, the, what are the, God, I can't think of a fucking movie. The one Will Smith was in.
Beer Tasting and Preferences
00:40:46
Speaker
I'm getting another beer. Fuck y'all.
00:40:50
Speaker
I've already got my beer. I'm fast. I'll talk about my beer while we wait for Peter to come back and forget what he was talking about. Uh, I am drinking the Bright Brewery Hellfire there, Amber Laga, Amber Ale, sorry, I should say, not Marga. It's 5%. Um, it is pouring a nice deep kind of ready Brown. Um, it is just
00:41:15
Speaker
It's not overly, mostly there's a bit of that caramel sweetness coming through. You know, slight toast kind of flavors. It's perfect for a cold winter's evening, which I imagine there are plenty down at Bright Brewery, being up in the Victorian Alps they call them.
00:41:33
Speaker
But yeah, solid. I would definitely, you know, after a day up in the mountains, I would happily sit down and sit on this while, you know, sitting in front of a fire. I've never been able to work out what Bright Brewery's core range is, even if they ever have one. So they always seem to be all the co-labs and the the new ones like like that one just. They might not even have one. They might have like two beers in their core. I don't know.
00:42:04
Speaker
I imagine, yeah, they've got a pale. I actually think the, um, like this can looks like it probably would be like, that's the candy. Oh, is it labeled or is it printed? I wouldn't put it past it. Yeah. Yeah. I thought it was printed. Yeah. That's, that's what I mean. It's most of the ones I've seen, well, not much of the ones. A lot of the ones I've seen are printed cans. And I mean, obviously the collabs and that they have all been labels, but, uh, yeah, that's why I can, can never quite work out what's in their court.
00:42:35
Speaker
And yeah, no, I'll give that a solid four and a half. Four and a half out of five. Well, to be sure, to be sure. What did you grab, Peter? I grabbed another slow lane. It's the last slow lane I'll be doing tonight before I get into. I'm not sure if I'm, I think I mentioned this to you before we started recording, Tom. I might do three beers instead of four because pretty much that 6%, um,
00:43:03
Speaker
Whitby that I had before that sorry the vice beer that I had before is the lowest a bv my fridge everything's fucking cuz I love Browns and Stouts and we're in winter. It's a perfect weather for it. Everything's like 11 or 12 percent I've got a 15 or 14 and a half percent barley wine in the fridge
00:43:19
Speaker
So, and they're all in 440 mil cans. So, rather than being a complete trash bag on a Monday night, I might just have three beers. So, for my second, I've got, this is one of the lowest eight BVs, three-fold from Slalane Brewing, which is a Belgian triple at 8.4%. So, yeah, not a Walmart beer, that one. No, that's a sippin' beer.
00:43:47
Speaker
Yeah, nice and clear. I mean, it's a little, it's unfiltered, but it's not, not cloudy, cloudy. Look at that nice, white, foamy head. Ooh, ooh, that's very unusual. It's like a, you don't expect to get solid malt notes through a beer that light in color. Well, I didn't anyway. Pills in the malt.
00:44:10
Speaker
SARS and Tet Nang hops and Belgian Abbey yeast. And you certainly get a shitload of that yeasty hit all the way through. It's quite sharp. I'm having trouble describing the flavor notes because it's quite unusual.
00:44:29
Speaker
Complex yeast-derived flavors, that's exactly what it is. Initial open fermentation and then a second fermentation in the can. Yeah, I don't know what to make of it. It's got honey. Is that bad? You don't know what to make of it? No, not at all. It's just, it's unusually sharp. You know, you expect certain flavors in beers and then you get other random flavors that just kind of cut through noise and just unexpected. So while Pete decides on, yep.
00:45:00
Speaker
Definitely. Sorry. Definitely a lot of sweetness in the back palate, and it is quite a honey.
Review of 'The Gray Man'
00:45:09
Speaker
I'm trying to identify the flavors. I'm really struggling. Banana bread, someone else said on Untapped, and I can kind of understand where that came from. I don't agree with it, but it's kind of got those estuary notes to it, but it is. It's all yeast. That's all I'm tasting is yeast.
00:45:23
Speaker
No, I was just going to say, I just quickly chucked in a bright brewing so I could see what their core range was and they have Alpine Largo, blowhard paleo. I did the same thing. Look at us. Yeah. Yes. So it's definitely, yeah, definitely. I've just seen these and maybe thought I hadn't seen that one or getting them all mixed up together. Too many beers in the world.
00:45:55
Speaker
So for mine, yeah, definitely banana. And someone else has written something that is exactly what I've been trying to put my finger on, clove. That is, you get that sharpness from kind of clove flavors. So I'm going to give that a four and a half. That's actually, it's totally out of my wheelhouse. It's unexpected, but it's thoroughly enjoyable. Yeah. Why was that funny? That's totally out of the wheelhouse. Okay.
00:46:24
Speaker
Maybe it's, um, yes. So four and a half. Let's move on to a bunch of mini reviews. We've been doing a lot of mini reviews lately, um, in the absence of like big, big topics, although we kind of have one. It's this episode. So shall we start with gray man, Tom? Have you seen it then? I'm assuming you haven't, mate. No. Been doing like real life stuff far more important.
00:46:50
Speaker
Are you going to watch it? Uh, I probably will. So you guys talk and I'll be, it's a pop out action flick. I'll be, I'll be back. Okay. See ya. Catch ya. I must go make pee pee. Um,
00:47:07
Speaker
Yeah, Emma and I just chucked it on like Sunday night. I'd gotten home, I'd worked the shift on the Sunday and we're like, fuck it, let's put this on. It was thoroughly enjoyable. It was... I was impressed. I had no idea. I thought it'd be another just a pop out action flick and yeah, cool Ryan Gosling, but don't really picture him as an action hero. And I was blown away.
00:47:34
Speaker
I actually thought the thing I found most interesting about it was, for me, you really could have, because it's Ryan Gosling and Chris Evans. Chris Evans plays the dick. The over the top, ostentatious, fucking hilarious villain. Which is cool to see after he played Cap. Like, it is the polar opposite of Captain America, this character. The thing I found the most interesting out of the casting of those two is,
00:48:04
Speaker
You could go back and reshoot that entire film and have them swap roles and it would be just as good a film like this. I could really see Ryan Gosling like he probably had fun. The mentally insane dick. Yeah. Yeah.
00:48:20
Speaker
God, they love a drone fly by shot. Jesus. I enjoyed those. They was like one every like 10 minutes. Before we get into it, so, so directed by the Russo brothers, um, and, and it shows, uh, it's based on a novel, which I can easily see if that makes sense. The plot was not dense. Standard action flick. It read, it read like it played kind of like a modern day Tom Clancy novel.
00:48:47
Speaker
I was just going to say like an oversimplified Clancy novel, yep. Starring Ryan Gosling, Chris Evans, Anna Derimah. Anna? Anna de Armas. It is de Armas, thank you. Who played Joy in Blade Runner 2049 and Paloma in No Time to Die and a few other things, lots of other things. He's popping up. Billy Bob Thornton is getting old.
00:49:08
Speaker
But he was excellent as a supporting actor. And I thought it was cool to see Jessica Henwick, who was the main female lead in Iron Fist. And she's popped up a few times. She played...
00:49:25
Speaker
I don't recall. I've tried to wipe that whole series from my memory. She was the only standout to be in it, in it, to be honest. She also played Bugs in Matrix Cash Cow Erections, which is what I'm calling that, that movie now. So it was cool to see her in another movie. Kind of sounded like you said Matrix Cash Cow Erections and that, that is a whole different film, I'm sure.
00:49:49
Speaker
Rule 42 or whatever it is, rule 41. Yeah, she was great. I think, I thought she was been underutilized. I agree. Yeah, she definitely could have done more. But she's only really played supporting, supporting leads, not leads, if that, well, supporting roles, not lead roles, if that makes sense. So she's, I reckon she, she's quite capable of stepping up. She's never, never given a bad performance.
00:50:14
Speaker
So my notes, interestingly, your mention of drone footage is one of the third notes I write. So bold over the top, no holds barred, action flick, enough explosions to give Michael Baywood. Definitely true. Like it's just over the top in parts. The fight choreography is like Hollywood top notch. And the supporting cinematography during the fight scenes was similar. Like it was just- Especially that scene in the square where he was handcuffed. Yeah, that was great.
00:50:43
Speaker
Oh, not just that, but also just the actual fisticuffs, the martial arts sequences were fucking brilliant. They're realistic, there's no haymakers and wasted energy in their, like their,
00:50:57
Speaker
close combat mining. It was realistic in that sense. So I thought that was cool. I said interesting use of drone footage. I mean, there was too many establishing shots, which everyone's using drones for these days, but I thought it was unusual to see a movie where they've actively integrated drone footage into the action sequences. There are shots where the drone kind of flies straight past the actor and does a panning sweep.
00:51:23
Speaker
And it's, it actually adds to the action sequence itself without going into the Transformers esque. It's so shaky. You can't actually tell that the CGI is really shit. Ryan Gosling. Fucking beefcake, man. Yes, that was one of Emma's complaints, actually. There wasn't enough shirtless Ryan Gosling. And you know what? I tend to agree with her.
00:51:45
Speaker
Well, he's ripped. He is. He was ripped for this movie. Like he's, he's played the kind of the, I don't know if you'd, if I'd be correct in saying he's kind of played the rom-com steamy male lead. No, what's that film he's in? Where's the scorpion jacket? That's insane. Uh, drive? Drive? Yeah, I think it's drive.
00:52:06
Speaker
Oh, yeah, that was a good film. Yeah. No, Drive, Drive. Yeah. Yeah, definitely. If you haven't seen that, check out if you want to see it. But no, right. It's fucking huge. Like and plays a realistic action hero. Like.
00:52:23
Speaker
Like, he's believable as a complete and absolute beefcake. And he's flimsy in the right kind of way as an action hero. And he's not even really an action hero. He's kind of playing the anti-hero, you know, ex-con kind of guy, without going into too much detail. Overall, I was very impressed for a free release on Netflix. It was absolutely a Hollywood blockbuster movie, in my opinion. There were a few moments I found
00:52:50
Speaker
Where it just went that one did that the the train the tram exploding into the building that was just. I was over the top but it was like it was that was the style of action film.
00:53:02
Speaker
Well, that, that was the only time where I found the, uh, it was jarring the CGI they were using or the graphics, like everything else works so seamlessly. Um, but yeah, that was, that was, that was probably the only time. Um, yeah, I found the establishing sweeping drone shots got a bit boring, uh, towards the halfway point. And so establishing shots did two, two, two hours and 20 minutes or so runtime.
00:53:27
Speaker
Yeah, we know we're in Prague. We don't need another fucking drone flyby of Prague. But fuck me, did they blow up Prague? Yeah. Like I did. To see a minivan open the back doors and not see like a mounted chain gun because we've seen that in Terminator movies and that sort of stuff. No, we're going to up it. It's a dual grenade launcher on a swivel chair blowing up a fucking tram in the main streets of Prague.
00:53:54
Speaker
And it was that was that like the gunfight like especially from Ryan Gosling's character was very.
00:54:02
Speaker
A game-esque, like almost, because he basically only uses the pistol. Yeah. And yeah, it did very much like. The way he was he was lining up his shots, like, you know, there's dudes with ballistic shields, so he shoots out their foot. It's like, of course you do. But, you know, in all those action films, they try and empty a clip into it and then he staggers back into the shield. Yeah. Yeah. So it was like it was that kind of smart, like, yeah, if I was in the game, I'd shoot the dude in the foot and then, you know, take him out. Yeah. So.
00:54:30
Speaker
No, it was all you would imagine. Yeah. If you were a super highly trained undercover operative and you probably would have far ahead. Yeah. You'd absolutely be trained to shoot them in the foot. Yeah. Like so.
'Under the Banner of Heaven' Analysis
00:54:43
Speaker
Yeah. Um, I thought it was brilliant. I was surprised, pleasantly surprised. Yeah. And it's definitely one of those ones that, uh, you know, I'd happily sit down and watch it again. Like just cause it's, it's got the production value on it. But yeah. Um, we were only talking, I think last episode that.
00:55:01
Speaker
You know the the old-school nineties action films that we grew up with are kind of gone because and they're the actors that support those kinds of movies like the Arnie's of the world and the Sloan's of the world haven't really been replaced in modern. Cinema and then you get a Ryan Gosling fucking Chris Evans blockbuster that is exactly what we were talking about.
00:55:24
Speaker
Um, so it was nice as a palette cleanser between Marvel movies because that's what everything else is at the moment. Uh, it was great. Yeah. No, they're very much enjoyable. I highly recommend it. I'll watch it. I'll watch it. Let's talk about the series that gave me fucking nightmares, Tom, that you suggested I, all that we check out. Oh, under the banner of heaven. Hmm. Yeah. That is, Andrew Garfield is brilliant in that.
00:55:52
Speaker
Especially as a man. I don't remember seeing that much range from him in anything before. Yeah. Like he wasn't a, he's never, I would never have called him a bad actor. No. But he was a brilliant actor in this. Yeah. So it is set in the 70s in Utah. 70s and 80s. 70s and 80s. It is based on a true crime.
00:56:12
Speaker
And it senses around Andrew Garfield's character is a Mormon police officer investigating some fun in Salt Lake City where like the population of Mormons is extremely high. Yeah. And they're investigating a murder of a mother and her child and their connection to a quite well-established Mormon family in the area. And I don't know, like. What to say?
00:56:42
Speaker
I mean, I learned more about the Mormon religion than I ever really wanted to. Oh, that just seems like it's, they make up rules as they go. That is just, wow. Yeah. You were focusing on, and they made it clear in the series, they were making the same commentary about Mormonism as they could easily make about any organized religion like Catholicism or Judaism or anything else.
00:57:08
Speaker
But then the series actually focuses more on the fundamentalists, the crazies and these guys are fucking crazies and the whole series centers around how much power Mormonism has in that kind of region of America.
00:57:23
Speaker
or had, you know, it permeated through politics, it permeated through the police force. You know, you literally had the fucking minister walk into the police station and demand to release two prisoners who were under suspicion for fucking murder and everyone wanted to let them go. Yeah.
00:57:39
Speaker
So that's that's quite a lot of power. No, it was the church to just sweep shit. Yeah, it was the line about we need to we need to make sure that because the Mormon fundamentalists are going back to, you know, the 1800s where they're, you know, they're dying of dysentery on the Oregon Trail.
00:57:59
Speaker
But one of the rules they have is, you know, you've got to go out and shop because you've got to support capitalism, which is a cornerstone of the faith. And it's like, how fucking American can you get? Jesus Christ. Well, it was a religion born in America. Having that, like our prophet wants us to go out and spend money. So, you know, they can't be like making their own butter. We got cracked up with that. I was like, that is all time classic.
00:58:27
Speaker
Um, but, but Andrew Garfield was fucking brilliant as a lead. Um, Sam Worthington, um, played a really, we don't see enough of the rest of the Worthingtons in my opinion. So he played an excellent protagonist. This, um, three thinking of the Hemsworth or, um, no, I'm thinking of that. Yes, you're right. Tom. I really, really think this Australian actor is going to shut up.
00:58:57
Speaker
All right. Pete is going to crawl back into his fucking corner. You also had a, what's his name? Russell. Bad Captain America. What's his, what's the actor's name? He played US agent in Falcon Winter Soldier.
00:59:15
Speaker
That's it. Yeah. Yeah. Whatever his name is. He, he, yeah, he plays a, I mean, I think now I've only ever seen him as an unhinged individual. So I think that might be just his go-to character at the moment. So it'd be like, it would have been nice to see him not as the unhinged dick.
00:59:32
Speaker
But yeah, it was very, very good series. And Daisy Edgar Jones. So the female lead, ironically, the woman who is murdered, the whole series centers around the investigation of a murder into a woman who ends up being in every fucking episode through like flashbacks and all the rest of it. And she plays a very driving role in the retelling of the story. And it's not a
00:59:58
Speaker
we're starting the series at the end and then retelling the whole story to bring us up to date. It does bounce between like present and past frequently in a non-confusing kind of way. But Daisy Edgar Jones is an actress you probably wouldn't have seen, but she was in the War of the Worlds SBS series reboot that I was raving about, about a year ago on the podcast. So she's the main lead in that as well.
01:00:25
Speaker
And again, she was brilliant. Believable in her faith, but also her challenging of dogma.
01:00:36
Speaker
within the framework of faith, like, yes, I believe in the religion, but I don't believe in the stupidity of the people perpetuating the religion, if that makes sense. So, yeah, really fucking chilling to know that it was based on true story. Some horrible, horrible other things that happened in that was the usage of the word priesthood in a sexual sense.
01:01:01
Speaker
That was the creepiest thing I think I've ever heard, like holding the wife because they, you know, the head of the house is the father and he's the holder of the priest. And the wife says, well, if you want me to hold your priesthood ever again, it was just like, oh, thank you. But she didn't.
01:01:20
Speaker
That line put that line hung a hat on it, but it was already implied pretty heavily by the use of the term, the way they use that term leading up to that. Yeah. And then just just, yeah, the way that my Andrew Garfield plays that absolutely torn character between because they're so devout. But as the series goes on, he starts questioning every single thing about the religion.
01:01:47
Speaker
Um, and because he wants to solve the case and he's trying to like, it's that wrestle of, do I go with faith or do I go with my, you know, I'm a policeman, like undetected. Well, not only that, but the people that he's investigating are using his religion in the worst possible way to commit, if not the murder that he's investigating, certainly a series of fucked up decisions that may or may not have led to the murder. Um,
01:02:11
Speaker
Yeah, and it was getting to watch it, that kind of weekly release as well. That was good, but it definitely was one of those series that I don't usually binge series, but God, I wish that it was bingeable, because I probably would have watched the whole thing in one hit.
01:02:28
Speaker
I did, because you gave me the tip after it all being released, so I just fucking destroyed it. It's only, I think, it's a one series, like a one season series, it's a mini series. I think there's only six episodes? Yeah, it's six to eight episodes or something like that.
01:02:45
Speaker
Seven there you go seven right in between what we said. Yeah, so then and then the cast the other customer I really enjoyed was the other detective Bill Tarber. He's played by a guy named Gil Birmingham and
01:03:00
Speaker
he has to negotiate being a Native American detective in a predominantly like heavily like white town in the middle of. Oh, we're not we're not just talking about standard black versus white or white on white versus black racism here. We're also talking about a religion that specifically calls out that black people are cursed by their God.
01:03:27
Speaker
Right it's indoctrinated into their faith to release this offshoot of the faith that you are, your skin is that color because you have been cursed or something like that. So watching him and just the way he was just like, I don't give a fuck about it. I kind of felt more reflected in his character because I was just like, I don't believe any of this shit you're saying like, you're just guilty. Like you haven't done it because you got told you to and yeah, it's just,
01:03:54
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You
Series Recommendation: 'Blackbird'
01:03:55
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did it because you're a psycho and you, and fundamentally it was all about a bunch of guys wanting to, to fuck multiple women and it'd be okay with their religion. So this is a religion that you have to be married to the people that you have sex with. So bring back Pollyanna Amorism as part of the religion. That was the fundamentalist movement that they were, they weren't chasing because I should be able to marry as many people as I want.
01:04:17
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But yeah, brilliant series, brilliantly acted, across the board, well worth a watch. But yeah, it's some creepy stuff.
01:04:27
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Very creepy. In a lot less detail, there was a kind of an offshoot that I had to that series because I was hungry for more after I finished that series. Blackbird is a, I think it's an Apple TV series that's currently being released and is another true crime mini series. So it's only five episodes long. And it's based on the real story of like a
01:04:54
Speaker
Absolutely off the hinges serial killer in America in the 90s, I think. Might've been the late 80s, early 90s. It's called Blackbird. Stars Taron Egerton, who's like a, again, he has bolt the fuck up for this compared to where he was in the Kingsman. So he's now at Beefcake. So he was in jail for a minor crime. He
01:05:21
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took a plea deal and got fucked over by the DA so that they could position him in a maximum security psychiatric prison to try and get a confession out of a guy who had admitted to killing one girl, but they suspected of killing like five or six. Again, based on a real story and they now believe that he killed more like 25 young women. Yeah, right.
01:05:48
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The actor that plays the serial killer and you know, he's guilty from the very start, right? Like it's not a spoiler. He killed people. That's why he's in jail. Um, played by Paul Walter Houser, who I have seen in some comedy, but I've never seen a whole movie with him in it, but he's usually that he's the overweight.
01:06:10
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Comic relief character. He was in I, Tonya, which is a movie I haven't seen, but he's apparently, he's in a comedic role in that, but he plays the psychopath. And I mean like properly, I don't mean cold blooded killer psycho. I mean like a few sandwiches short of a picnic upstairs killer. And he's like bone chillingly fucking scary that guy.
01:06:35
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So he does not look like a serial killer, but when he talks, he talks in this high pitched creepy ass voice and it just, it betrays that, betrays that creepiness perfectly. So check out Blackbird if you want something else like it. Might all be a bit too depressing to watch back to back like I have. Yeah.
'The Northman' Film Review
01:06:52
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Anyway, I've heard enough from both of us. It's time for Dan to say something.
01:06:56
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Yeah, I agree. Well, I think we should we're like four episodes through the boys. So let's let's hold the boys for probably the next the next and we'll go from there. Yep. The Northman. Yeah, the Northman is fucking great. It's it's I think I said it in the chat and I said it at Pete again yesterday that it's the perfect mix between
01:07:18
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The mythology, the Norse mythology and realistic, I say that in quotation marks, for those not watching, the realistic history of the Vikings, they lean very heavily into semi-authentic clothing and housing and ships and where they traveled to and everything like that. Not the berserkers, because they weren't berserkers, the ones that wear the wolfskin.
01:07:45
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I can't remember, but it stars Alexander Skarsgard and a new title of Joy, other two main male, female leads. The, I'm not even going to try and, what is it? Klaes Bang. Get that bag. Klaes?
01:08:06
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at CLAES. I don't know how you pronounce that. So he's, he's the other lead. He's the antagonist of the, uh, the series. He's the Alexander Skarsgårds. Uh, I'm not, there's no spoilers here because if you look up the cast and see the trailer, you see Alexander Skarsgårds character saying, I will avenge you father. I will, I will save your mother. I will kill you.
01:08:33
Speaker
It starts with F. This guy's name. Sorry, it's a very good name. Fjolnir. Fjolnir. And it's a revenge story. It's a revenge story. And it's just fucking great. It's brutal. The only thing is the fight scenes were heavily choreographed, but they could have taken a little bit more rehearsal, so it was a bit quicker.
01:08:55
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It's very, I think it's very stagnant. Now I'm going to swing overhead. Yeah, you do. I am going to block. Yeah, but they're one shot fights, so I think that's why they're all waiting for people to get in position. And I'm sure it was fucking cold and wet where they were filming, so they probably had limited time to do it. I think a lot of it's filmed. As long as people aren't blocking before the swing starts, because you've seen that in a couple of really bad background characters in movies sometimes.
01:09:22
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So I'm not going to go too far into the mythology side that's in there, but just to give you an idea of what I'm talking about, the right level of mythology.
01:09:34
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During this revenge quest that he has, he comes across a sword that he's pointed towards by a shaman that he meets in the mountains. And the sword is a cursed sword, but it just looks like, because it's set in a more traditional Nordic
01:09:56
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atmosphere. It just looks like a Viking sword, but the shaman tells him that it can only be unsheathed in the darkness of night.
01:10:07
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And so he goes about his revenge at nighttime because he can unsheathe this sword that he's using to kill everybody. And there's one fight scene that he comes to during the day and he actually goes to pull it from the scabbard and the sword won't come out of the scabbard. So he has to fight with the sword still in the scabbard because it's during the day so that the sword will not come out of the scabbard. So it's little things like that. There's one point during the movie where
01:10:37
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he fights a creature and you don't know whether the fight actually happened or whether he imagined it happened. It was filmed in that kind of way. So there's another little bit of mythology that it could have just been what he imagined was going to happen that played out or whether it actually did happen and things kind of reset a little bit. So does the soundtrack and the soundscape
01:11:07
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and kind of the cinematography kind of lend it that the atmosphere of the mystical kind of elements you're talking about. And when I ask, I'm kind of talking from the context of like the Gladiator movie where those kind of mystical elements are very much reinforced by
01:11:24
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those parts, the soundscape, etc. It does, yes, but it's an unfair comparison to Gladiator. Gladiator was definitely a Hollywood movie and this is definitely a movie that's been filmed with traditionally, all the music score is all made with traditional instruments, so the
01:11:47
Speaker
the stringed instruments of the Scandinavian countries. There's no big cinematic score to it. It's a beautiful soundtrack. I love all that folk Nordic music, so I was really into the soundtrack. It's filmed on location, so there's sets that are built out in the wild in Norway and Iceland, which I'm assuming that's where it's all filmed.
01:12:11
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I probably should have done my research a little bit more before this, but that's where it's set. It's set in Norway to start with, and then it's set in Iceland afterwards. And they're all outside set. So when they're outside, they're not on a sound stage in Hollywood somewhere. They're out in the Scandinavian country.
01:12:28
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The elements are all happening, everything's wet, there's they have a few cross section shots of huts that are really built because someone walks in a shot from one side and you're looking down through the middle of the hut from the outside and then they come towards the camera and go out the end door so all those physical sets were all built.
01:12:50
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And it all reinforces it on that side of it, yes. The mythological elements within it don't feel out of place. From the very beginning, you can see the life that these people would have led believing in these gods and these traditions.
01:13:10
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Nothing, nothing in it feels jammed in there. That all, it all works together. Yeah. Okay. I think it's really good. That's cool. Um, we might just, just so you know, whilst Tom's still here, we've kind of lost Tom's recording.
01:13:26
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I don't know why, so we might just take a quick, we'll just take a quick break for two seconds and figure out how to get Tom back. We can still see him. It's just that you guys aren't going to be able to hear him. Just so you, to fill in the gap though, whilst Dan was talking about Northman, Tom did a lot of, we're up to date. We'll be right back. Okay. We're back. So we just had a little bit of a technical.
01:13:50
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issue. And it wasn't Dan, it will be Dan in post, but it's not Dan on the live recording. Dan's one hour file will need to be split into 37 pieces to sync his voice and his audio and his video, but that's not Dan's fault, that's the government's fault. Do you want to quickly talk about, we've got to kind of go to break soon anyway, but we want to talk about malignant.
01:14:14
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Yeah, I will cover it very quickly because it was a steaming pile of crap, but it's worth putting in there because it's a steaming pile of crap. Yeah, James Wan makes good fucking movies. What happened? Well, this is this is my this is my question. Does James Wan make good movies or is it the guy that was his partner when he wrote Saw? Was it all of his doing in the directing and the writing because his movie Upgrade is fucking amazing.
01:14:40
Speaker
It's absolutely excellent for a little indie budget movie. Yeah, I didn't know that was him because that was very indie and yet it felt like, yeah, it was brilliant. I should know his name, but I don't. But Upgrade is excellent. If you haven't seen Upgrade, go and watch Upgrade because it's fucking great.
01:15:00
Speaker
We did cover it in the podcast like two years ago. Lee Wanall is the name of the director and writer. Yeah. So are you guys going to watch it? Are you going to watch Malignant? Like it is like really quite bad. I enjoyed Annabelle and that universe that they've established. But if it's a shit movie, like spoil the fuck out of it. It's a horror movie. You either get the jump thrill or you don't.
01:15:21
Speaker
Well, yes and no. Oh, this is the guy who did Aquaman. Yeah, right. No, that explains a lot. See you later. Oh yeah, I forgot he did do Aquaman. So I'm really suspecting James Wan wasn't the fucking the mastermind between that fucking duo doing Saw. Because it was so bad, like, so bad. If the actual premise of the movie hadn't have been good,
01:15:48
Speaker
there is no way I would have continued to watch it because it's like they got every actor straight out of acting school or walked up to people on the street and just said, hey, we need someone to play this stereotypical part in this movie. Do you want to do it? And just read this off a piece of piece of paper. They did one take and that was it. Like I understand these more direct to TV movies need a like
01:16:15
Speaker
I'll have a lower budget and need to be done faster and everything like that. But fuck me, the acting is terrible. But they're not paying for physical footage anymore, so they can do a few takes on their digital celluloids. Yeah. Like, it's just time. The acting was terrible. The delivery of the lines was terrible. The interaction between all of the characters was fucking horrible. I don't think there was one good interaction between two human characters.
01:16:42
Speaker
Wow. At all in the whole fucking movie, because it was just, it was horrendously bad, but the premise was kind of creepy and kind of good. So you've got this- I always like the fact that like the Conjuring series was rooted in or based on real ghost stories. Yeah.
01:17:02
Speaker
And so you always have that question mark and they designed it so that you always have the question markers. Is this real? Is this like overdramatised real or is this just bullshit song got stoned or, you know, ate some mushrooms and wrote some shit down? Yeah, and I think that kind of might have been what this was, but they did write it fairly well. So the premise is it starts off in this asylum.
01:17:25
Speaker
One of the patients gets loose. You get the implication that the doctors have been experimenting on him. He has some sort of electrical controlling powers. And then you don't really see him.
Malignant Movie Breakdown
01:17:36
Speaker
You see him behind a plastic sheet and the main doctor goes, okay, Timothy, whatever the fuck his name is, it's time to cut the cancer out. And that line seems to be like a throughput line through the whole movie.
01:17:48
Speaker
It is called malignant. Yeah. And then it cuts later and like 20 years later and it's following a woman in modern day. She's got an abusive husband. He beats her up one night and he's sleeping on the couch. That night a shadowy creature gets into their house and murders him and like really badly murders him, like twists him all up, like heads backwards and like spines broken and all that.
01:18:18
Speaker
So he gets what he deserves. And then a few days later, the doctor that was running the hospital, she ends up being murdered. And the main character woman is able to, in her own home, she kind of gets mentally transported to the murder scene to see it happen. So she's got some sort of psychic link with the murderer. And this is the first time you see sort of the murderer move. And he moves in a really creepy kind of almost backwards running way, like he's running
01:18:48
Speaker
The body is facing forward, but his head is on backwards and he's moving backwards. And it's this really weird thing and the shoulders pop and the arms pop and everything like that. Anyway, few more murders happen, few things happen. And then you get to the end of it and you find out more about the main, the main actress, the main character that her mother was raped and she gave up the child. I say that singular at the moment to the
01:19:19
Speaker
Uh, to the asylum and they start testing on him, but it wasn't a single child. It was the brother and sister, but they were conjoined. So why it looks like the murderer is running backwards. Yes. So the brother is on the back and he was all like really fucking deformed and like, had these little like, like, what's his name quarter? No, the dude from fucking total recall that Voldemort and Harry Potter one.
01:19:48
Speaker
Yeah. Sounds like it. Yeah. So he's on the back of the dude's head. He's like in there and they in the end, they end up cutting the cancer out and they cut him out as much as what I can. But his brain is intertwined with her brain. So they fucking crack her skull and like push him back in.
01:20:05
Speaker
Like, into the head, and then close the head up. And how he got out, because the abusive husband cracked the woman's, the back of the woman's skull on the fucking wall. So, it broke it open. And he managed to climb back out. And he started to come out, but he was controlling her body.
01:20:24
Speaker
Wow. Wow. As the premise of a movie, what the fuck? But also, when does it get to the bad bit? Because I'm still interested in watching this. The acting and the filming. I'm kidding. I'm sorry, what?
01:20:40
Speaker
And then it went fucking horrible. We had to spoon his brain back in and that's the basis of the fucking movie. It shows him like cutting the body out because he didn't have legs like he was just like this. She was like a fucking hunchback and he was like the malignant tumor on her back.
01:20:57
Speaker
So they cut everything out, cut all these fucking arms off and everything like that and like cut his face all up and everything. And like you literally see them like pushing the fucking the face and the head into her skull and closing the skull up. And then it goes into the end of the movie and he's like taking on the cops in like these fucking Matrix-esque like fight scenes.
01:21:22
Speaker
Well, he's got two buddies, but he doesn't. But like, because everything's filmed, like, backwards, like, she's, it's not, it's the stunt, it's a stunt person, I don't even know if it was a woman at that stage, is like, trying to move backwards when it's a person, but then it cuts to a CGI jumping up, doing fucking neo flips and
01:21:43
Speaker
parkouring through the fucking police. The only thing that I feel bad about in this whole description is James Wan is one of the only, only big blockbuster directors and writers in Hollywood that came from Australia. He's an Aussie. So we're kind of panning one of the only Aussies in Hollywood in that kind of chair. He should make better fucking movies then. But if it's a shit fucking movie, then it's a shit fucking movie, right? What can you say? Yeah, no, it was, it was.
01:22:11
Speaker
Yeah, I'm not gonna back it if it's that shit. I'm not just gonna back him because he's Ozzy. Oh, I just found some images of it. You looking at these little stick hands? No, it's one of the ones where like he's coming out the back of a head, but instead someone superimposed Nicolas Cage's face in there.
01:22:33
Speaker
They need the birdcage hair for Nick Cage's. It was just like, I can forgive bad movies. I can like, I'm a massive fan. And you know what? I shouldn't even, I shouldn't even classify this in the same. I was going to say the Evil Dead. Evil Dead and Evil Dead 2, really low budget, but brilliantly filmed and everything for their era on like college fucking budgets. Like, and this was.
01:22:58
Speaker
Hollywood movie not a Hollywood movie, but it was a fucking movie that was filmed in LA in I was filmed in Seattle, but
01:23:06
Speaker
In 2022, like, that shit should not fucking happen. You'd expect, if it's going to be a pop out, then hang a hat on it and be obviously not taking itself seriously. Oh, yeah, no, no. I found the little handy. You found the little handy. Yeah, I'm looking at it too. All right, we're moving along with the scary movie Mashed Potatoes. Just take my strong hand, Charlie.
01:23:31
Speaker
But I just think the the idea of it could have worked. I think I think the whole creepy, conjoined, deformed twin taking over a brain. I think that side of it could have worked, but the execution of it was horrendous. Hideously bad.
01:23:48
Speaker
Terribly bad. Before we go into a break, I want to end it on a slightly more positive note. If you are into Matt Groening comedy, so Simpsons and Futurama, do yourself a favor and watch Disenchanted on Netflix. It's basically Matt Groening style comedy in a
01:24:08
Speaker
Like a, in a fantasy middle ages kind of setting and it's fucking funny as hell. And it does push the boundary too. It's a, it's a lot more adult than Simpsons started off as, I mean, sorry, ended off as, cause Simpsons was kind of evolved over time over like their 55 seasons or whatever.
01:24:27
Speaker
And Brickleberry was a recommendation from Big Eazy Eduardo on one of our biggest fans and listeners. Brickleberry's a Comedy Central cartoon series, comedy cartoon series on Disney Plus. And as he mentioned, I am amazed that Disney Plus allows it to be shown because it is off the fucking rails. It makes South Park
Controversial Disney+ Content
01:24:54
Speaker
look tame.
01:24:56
Speaker
In terms of adult humour. Well, that's not- Disney did just get in trouble or get yelled at because they finally put Logan and Deadpool 1 and 2 on Disney+. So, like, they obviously- Why did they get yelled at? I mean, look, the reality is- Because anyone can access it if you don't put child lock on your stream. The reality is, well, Disney himself was a fucking Nazi, so I don't understand why we have to pretend like it's the kid's fucking company. It's not. It never was.
01:25:23
Speaker
Yeah, so Brickleberry is fucking funny too. I'm actually torn now because they're both 30-ish minute episodes, so they're nice time fillers when you don't have a lot to do and you just need to blank out some time. I'm really enjoying Disenchanted, but Brickleberry just makes me fucking laugh. I'd like- Just with how outrageously wrong it is. I liked Disenchanted for the first season, and then I just, I watched the first couple in the second season, I just felt it lost something.
01:25:52
Speaker
I've only seen the first five or six, four or five episodes of Disenchanted of season one. Brickleberry, I've only seen a couple of episodes. Brickleberry's set in a, like a wildlife park. Their rangers, most of the characters are rangers, but there's like a talking teddy bear who, you know, needs to eat chocolate and
01:26:14
Speaker
There's the sexual harassment, there's the woman who's voice acted by a guy with this kind of voice and has the female symbol on her chest, and her vagina has its own voice actor.
01:26:31
Speaker
Like in the first episode, there's an attractive female that comes into the park, I keep wanting to say theme park, and you just hear this growling, and demon voices, and this girl says, oh, I'm sorry, that was my vagina talking, I don't know, it just got carried away with me. Like it's that kind of humor, it's just really fucking out there. Yeah, right.
01:26:58
Speaker
Definitely worth watching if you're not politically correct. Like me. Funny as fuck. And on that note, we'll, I think we'll take a break and I'll go select a 12%. Sipping beer. Let it warm up. All right. We'll be right back.
01:27:27
Speaker
We ready? And we're back. We're back.
Beer Reviews Continued
01:27:30
Speaker
We are back. It's boring. We are back. Dan's muted so he can sip his... Copper tea, governor. Except it's not a cup of tea, I'm sure. It's not coffee, is it? It's late for coffee. Oh, thank God. I was gonna say, I wouldn't fucking sleep having a coffee at 8.15.
01:27:45
Speaker
Um, let's kick us off with our third beer for the evening time. This may be my final beer, I'm not sure yet. Let's see how trashed I am by the end of this beer. You can go first. Okay. It's going to take you long enough to get through the beer now. Jesus.
01:27:59
Speaker
One Drop. I've been drinking a lot of your beers on the podcast recently and I do love your beers, but seriously, guys, just pick a one or two word name for them and then put the 50 different words describing the beer as a sub name. This is One Drop. I won't be able to read, like, won't be able to tell you. Here we go.
01:28:20
Speaker
One Drop's toasted marshmallow and salted caramel pecan mud cape nitro imperial pastry stout. Except it's not on nitro, so I don't know why that was in the untapped. I copied and passed that from untapped. Might be on nitro at the brewery. Yeah. As a beer though, as an imperial pastry stout weighing in at a fat and glorious 10.9% ABV,
01:28:50
Speaker
It's off the wall, sweet, dark awesomeness. Like, if you like sweet black beers or sweet stouts, it's crazy good. You do get the caramel separated from the, it's not just chocolate, it's kind of like, you know that, I don't want to say Belgian chocolate because that just sounds
01:29:11
Speaker
you know, stupid, but that real rich chocolate that you get out of good quality chocolate, that's what you're getting out of it. Thick mouthfeel. The alcohol, there's no burn, but it's, you can tell that it's got a high ABV. If that makes sense, you get the alcohol flavour. I'm not getting any pecans. And the salinity level, you can, it is noticeably like there is definitely salt in it.
01:29:40
Speaker
salt water, but fucking great if you like sweet stouts. The end. What were you smiling at, Dan? I was on mute so I didn't get to jump in so that moment has passed. You actually weren't on mute. I was. I was when you said it. Oh, okay. Yeah. I'm going to give this
01:30:06
Speaker
4.75. If anybody's going to be watching at home, they're going to be able to see you say the words and me go, and then reach for my mute button, but it was far too far through the- What was the words? You thick mouthfeel. It was viscous. I tell you what I'm not getting is toast and marshmallow and having kind of
01:30:34
Speaker
Toasted marshmallows for a brown ale before like I very much know what the toasted marshmallow Flavors can be in a beer and I I really didn't get that I get lots of sweetness you get lots of molasses and those caramely sweet notes, but Hmm couldn't detect any toasted marshmallow nor could I detect pecans? Definitely mud cake though the whole thing is just a chocolate mud cake in a beer and
01:30:58
Speaker
A lot of beers have put pecans in. I know I've eaten a pecan and I don't think they've actually got that much flavor to them. It must just be some nutty background flavor. I've never picked it up in a beer either that said it's had pecans in it. I'm like, yeah, I ain't getting any pecans from this.
01:31:16
Speaker
But most cakes that have pecans in them are honeyed pecans or they're caramelized pecans. They're always turned into a sweet nut rather than the original pecan flavor, if that makes sense. Pecan, pumpkin pecan pie. It's not like that. Australians don't do pumpkin pie. There's one thing. No, that's true. We don't. We don't. I don't even do pumpkin soup. Pumpkin pie is awesome, man. My sister-in-law makes an awesome pumpkin pie.
01:31:46
Speaker
Anyway, thanks. Cool. No, you don't know pumpkin pie? Have you ever had it? Oh, bread or pumpkin spice lattes. I like pumpkin. Oh, I like roast pumpkin. A pumpkin pie is like a... This isn't going to make it sound nice. It's like a thicker custard tart.
01:32:11
Speaker
It's like the the custard, the pumpkin custard tart, the pumpkin custardy part of the pie is thicker than what custard is in a custard tart. Right. But it's just it's yeah, it's great. It's fucking awesome. I'm prepared to try. Did you say your sister-in-law? Yeah, but she's got two kids now, so she doesn't have time to bake. This was this was pre-two children. OK, let's put in a special request form.
01:32:39
Speaker
I used to, don't worry. Tom, what are you drinking? I am drinking Dayton beers. Burnout black IPA. See, that's a nice and short name. One drop. Doesn't take long to fucking say. It's not an essay.
01:33:01
Speaker
Hey, look, they told you exactly what's in it. So, you know, you can't be surprised when you find those flavours. I didn't find half the flavours, Tom. So I could scratch out at least half the words on my can. It didn't look hard enough. Sorry. This is a very, very well made black IPA. I'm sure that Dan will get a can of it and use his scientific tools and tell me that I'm wrong and it's too sweet. And I'll be like, well, go fuck yourself.
01:33:29
Speaker
Sorry, I feel like you need to explain that better, Tom, because that was quite fun and funny on chat. No, let's leave the mystery. I like a bit of mystery. Um, Dan can explain a little bit for once.
01:33:40
Speaker
They said they used five hops, I don't know what the five hops are, but it is very resinous. It is like a heap of pine, both in the aroma and the taste. Straight off the bat, real solid malt base there to accentuate those flavors. It is good, nice roastiness, but then you just get heaps more of that resin coming through.
01:34:03
Speaker
Um, it sits in a lovely 6.5%. So I've slowly, uh, inst my way up in ABVs. Um, tonight, uh, I will be having a fourth. I've got one warming up. I've got so many good beers in my fridge that I'm excited to try on the podcast. I just don't think I'm going to get through an 11% and be comprehensible for another.
01:34:27
Speaker
They do tell you those. I think it's pretty rare these days on IPAs this day. They do list the IBU on the can. Let's say it's 35 IVUs. That's low. That kind of went out of fashion.
01:34:42
Speaker
Yeah, I really feel like that went out of fashion putting the IBUs on the cans. I'd say bring it back. Let's make a renaissance. Yeah, it's not overly bitter, but it's super piney. It's more about that sensation rather than the bitterness. And yes, I will give it a solid four. Well done, Dayton. Yeah, cool. Cool looking can art, too. A little... all...
01:35:08
Speaker
Fire flames and smoke and the description on untapped is hilarious. This full throttle five hop injected single overhead cam. Yeah. Turner black IPA roars with dark malt backbone of fills your nostrils with fumes of pine and resin kettle to the metal.
01:35:27
Speaker
That's exactly what it says on the back of the can too. Yeah, it's very, very well done. Get your lips surrounded if you can. More black IPAs, damn it. Keep banging that drum. First it was the West Coast, now we're on a rampage for
Marvel Trailers Discussion
01:35:44
Speaker
black IPAs. Sorry, just on a quick technical note, did you do anything different on your computer? Because suddenly I'm getting like weird buzz out of your mic.
01:35:54
Speaker
I don't know it was you because you muted yourself before and. Hello. No, nothing. Didn't even, didn't even turn it off. Okay. Who knows? Uh, moving on to trailer trash.
01:36:09
Speaker
We've got a few trailers to get through. We've got four. Starting with She-Hulk, we've got our final trailer. It's trailer three. Which is due in 17 days. So She-Hulk series on Disney Plus is released on 17th of August, starring Tatiana
01:36:31
Speaker
Maslany? Maslany? I don't know how to pronounce it. Oh, is that, is that the, that's the lady from that one where she played lots of people. There's a really bad description for you. Have you got that movie with that guy in it from that other movie that time? That was my fucking life as a teenager in civic video, by the way.
01:36:51
Speaker
Anyway, continue. Yep. It'll come to me at some stage. Yeah. Also, surprisingly, I'm sure, starring Mark Ruffalo. But Charlie Cox is coming in as Daredevil slash the... I can't remember his name when he's not as... Matt Murdock. Thank you, Matt Murdock. The blind lawyer. Looks fun. The trailer looks fun.
01:37:19
Speaker
Doesn't take itself too seriously. Bit of fourth wall breaking in there. Yeah, because she looks directly at the camera and the other Hulk, the Hulk, looks in the camera like, what are you looking at? So, yeah.
01:37:35
Speaker
Yes, so she I think the basics premise of this series is. As she learn the comics she got her whole powers through a blood transfusion for Bruce Banner is her cousin. So I'm sure they'll go down a similar similar route with that we see the abomination. She ends up I think defending him or that's like the case she gets given. Yeah open up a super superhuman kind of.
01:38:04
Speaker
Law firm. Yeah. Law firm. Yeah. Yeah. So yeah. So abomination is, you know, tied in with all the Hulk universe. So, um, yeah, it does look, it does just look fun. It looks fun. Uh, and then, yeah, we're going to see some, some Matt Murdockness in there in, I'm assuming both forms as, uh, as Daredevil and as, as a, you know, a co-lawyer kind of thing. So.
01:38:28
Speaker
Yeah. We'll see where it goes, but it's, um, it's a good, good little, little rundown trailer. Um, I do like that it's created and headed by Jessica Gayo. So just, just having a female writer director in a female led series, I think is good because they're not going to pander to, to the shit that we see sometimes when you get a guy writing for a woman, um, which I think is relevant and good.
01:38:57
Speaker
And Tatiana Maslany, I wish I could pronounce that surname. I looked up what else she's been in and I haven't seen anything else that she's in. She's been in a bunch of TV series, Harper House, Perry Mason, I think she kind of made her name there, and Orphan Black. Orphan Black, that's the one. Not watched any of those. That's the one. I've watched a couple of episodes. It's pretty good.
01:39:23
Speaker
Cool. Yeah, I think Emma, Emma watched all of them. I didn't watch it. I don't even know what to do.
01:39:31
Speaker
Well, you do discover moving right before we move along. Um, where does the Daredevil costume that he's wearing come from? Is it the ultimate one or is it something else? No, they're leaning, they're saying it's more, um, based on his original yellow and red. I thought I said earlier debuted in the top 10. Oh, I was, I might've been actually focusing on the trailer when you said that. Sorry.
01:39:59
Speaker
But if you look at it, if you look at the, if you pause it when he does these flip onto the thing, it just looks like a slight upgrade from his, his Netflix one. Yeah. It's pretty damn close. Well. Just got some gold accents to it. So, yeah, there was, I mean, the original Daredevil suit was all like a real crimson maroon and black. That was it. And you just get some. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
01:40:23
Speaker
get some gold accents now. Hopefully they don't. Looks like he's got some gold on his helmet, kind of on the legs and the shoulder pads there. Oh, I've got a screenshot I hope is a joke actually. Cause I get the, I'm gonna, I mean, if you're watching this on YouTube, you'll see what I'm talking about. Cause I will, I will put it up there, but gosh, I hope this is a joke. That looks fucking terrible. Yeah. Oh, that's definitely a joke.
01:40:52
Speaker
And yet, that doesn't look like... Anyway. No, that's just someone colouring in. I fucking hope, because that is the source material, right? That's the original Daredevil from the comics. So anyway, yeah, hopefully they do it justice. Moving on. I mean, they're pretty good with their costumes so far, so I haven't really fucked them up that bad.
01:41:14
Speaker
It's going to be interesting to see a series, a TV series that is the main character when she's holed out is 100% CGI'd. So, certainly tech has come a long way since Avatar with main characters, obviously CGI'd. They're now kind of interplaying with humans seamlessly, so I kind of like that because I'm a nerd. Yeah. Wakanda. What's next? Wakanda forever.
01:41:40
Speaker
Oh yeah, Namor time. Fuck yeah. Yeah, I was really surprised when I saw Namor jump out. Really surprised. So yeah, he dove out of the water and because I knew nothing about it. And I watched this a couple of days after it got released and hadn't seen any.
01:41:59
Speaker
I hadn't really followed any articles on what got released at Comic Con. And yeah, the name all jumped out. I'm like, oh, fuck. OK. Right, yeah. They're going to do the Fishman better than DC, did it? Many, many years ago. Yeah, I was just, that's exactly what I was thinking, right? It's like we've just gotten the Aquaman 2 news, and then we're going to get the real Aquaman. And not the boys season three. Fuck the... The Deep. The Deep. I'm not going to finish that sentence, but yeah.
01:42:27
Speaker
I do love the boys for them taking every dark thought that goes through your head, reading traditional DC and Marvel comics and turning into a TV series. Carry on. Yeah, Namor is going to be an interesting bad guy, an interesting lead protagonist.
01:42:49
Speaker
Well, yeah, in the comics, the Wakanda and Atlantis have gone to war before. I really like the kind of Aztecian styling they're going down with this. I don't, from what I was reading about it, it seems like they're going to actually give, instead of calling it Atlantis, actually give it a different name. It was Tektokon or something like that. But yeah, his character design looks great.
01:43:19
Speaker
He's still got the little winged feet. They've given him his classic eyebrows, because you can't have Namor without those giant, pointed up eyebrows that he had in all the classic comics. He's almost drawn like a... There's certain cells from Namor. Sorry, this beer's giving me the hiccups. It looks very Wolverine.
01:43:43
Speaker
Yeah, right. It's got that same styling of like angular drawing style anyway. Yeah. With those eyebrows. Um, but yeah, then they've, you know, in the comics, the Atlanteans were blue skinned people. So it's good that they've gone down that route too with the other, like, you know, he was always half.
01:44:01
Speaker
Half human, half Atlantean. And then all roads are pointing towards Shuri's taking over the Black Panther mantle. It looked like that to me. Yeah, which is again, that does happen in the comics. She does take over, but yeah. And then there was something else that was in there that I have forgotten it, because I'm an idiot. Anyway, it'll come to me. I thought it looks great. Dolphin Black. No.
01:44:28
Speaker
I thought it was great. I thought it was excellent. We've got one Black Panther and then some pop-ups in some Guardians films and nothing more from there. I know the loss of Chadwick. Is that his name? Chadwick Boseman. Boseman. Chadwick Boseman.
01:44:58
Speaker
I'll get it alright, I'm doing a Pete. Put a big dampener on. That's fair. That's fair. That's fair. I'm gonna cop that. Chadwick Boseman is his name. Yes. Put a big dampener on doing a Black Panther 2, but it took us some time to work it all out and find the right time to do it. Looks like they've fucking done it some justice. Looks excellent.
01:45:19
Speaker
It is only a teaser trailer, but I think the hauntingly slow, no woman, no cry version of the- Which morphs into Kendrick Lamar by the end of it. Yeah. That was brilliantly edited. Yeah. And it is seamless as a morph, but-
01:45:37
Speaker
That like there is some reinforcement going on in the themes of that song against what's going on in the movie, right? So they're still mourning the loss from the Black Panther whilst she takes on the mantle as Black Panther. I thought that was very neatly tied back into the lyrics from the song and a completely original version of that song too.
01:45:57
Speaker
The thing I was gonna say before and I just remembered it, is at the 133 mark, you see someone hammering a bit of metal and they hammer out at heart, so that is Ironheart. That's reference to Ironheart, so it sounds like she will be making her debut suit, well her suit at least, in Wakanda.
01:46:18
Speaker
or would somehow be connected to that. Yeah, right. Which would make sense, you know. Sure, he'd probably be the only other person who could help make that. Which is where the technology needs to come from now that Iron Man's not around, right? Yeah. And then there was some, you start to see more the Dora Majali, which are the female warriors of the King. We actually see some of their
01:46:46
Speaker
The red ones are like the royal guards blue ones. The blue ones yes so they. That was a reference to. They're involved in like in a fight with Kang or something so I think it's leaning more to that you know given how well Conda is so advanced like that they would have.
01:47:05
Speaker
like, essentially a space program kind of thing. So, yeah, so we might see some more implications kind of wider spread across the rest of the movies. I think there's going to be some politics going on there because there is a there's a split second just after your one minute thirty three Ironheart reference where the blues are fighting the Reds.
01:47:25
Speaker
So. Ah, it's just like the good old Cold War. Or the, yeah, or the Civil War. Yeah. The turncoats and the red coats. Anyway. Yeah. Looking forward to that one. Geez, we managed to wring a lot of content out of like a two minute 30 teaser trailer. But yes, I am looking forward to it as well. Still, it's not far off, right? It's November.
01:47:54
Speaker
November was about three months, four months away. Yeah. Something much, much sooner is the I am Groot miniseries, which is a five, five episode run on Disney Plus that looks like it's live action, but mostly animated. Yeah, I don't think it's going to be terribly long episodes as well. I think they were meant to, cause I think they, they showed the first one on the back of, uh,
01:48:25
Speaker
They did a re-release of, or they're doing a re-release of Spider-Man in cinemas in the US, and they're debuting the first episode is like, you know, we went to see a Pixar film, there was a little Pixar short before it, but I think they're just shorts. They're just going to be little, you know. Hey, it's Groot running around the universe because he can. It is an animated series, apparently, so. Yeah.
01:48:48
Speaker
Vin Diesel and Brad Cooper are coming back for it, so they're taking it seriously, which is good. But yeah, five short episodes. Looks like they're all coming out on August 10, too. I mean, there's only five minute episodes, so you'd be able just to smash through it. Yeah. It's basically going to cover the hymn growing from the plant at the end of Guardians 2 through to the teenager in Guardians... Sorry, the plant at the end of Guardians 1 to the teenager in Guardians 2, right?
01:49:19
Speaker
Cause he looks like a, oh, I think, I think it's, you know, just, it's just, it's more aimed at a younger audience and it's here you go, guys. We're releasing all this other stuff. That's a bit more serious. Why don't we do something a bit, just fun. Give some animators a chance to show off their, their skills and here you go.
01:49:36
Speaker
You know, you don't have to employ too many voice actors because he just says three words. Makes it pretty easy. Well, but they got Vin Diesel in to say those three words the same as they did for the first two movies. So. Yeah. It might be easy to say, but actually I remember watching the behind the scenes from Guardians and the Vin Diesel shit that he had to go through to capture those three words through that first movie.
01:49:59
Speaker
Probably was pretty grueling for that guy. Came in like every day for I think three to five days in a row on stilt walker blades to kind of get into the idea Vin Diesel I'm talking about the actor was walking around in these these lift blades like pogo mini pogo stick things to get into the headspace of being a seven and a half foot tall plant creature.
01:50:23
Speaker
and had to record I Am Groot in a billion different inflections in like seven languages in the space of a week. So. Good challenge.
01:50:35
Speaker
Can't exactly call Vin Diesel a fucking method actor. I don't think Vin Diesel walking in on big giant stilts qualifies him as up there with some of the Daniel. I never said that. I never said he was a method actor. Daniel Day-Lewis level somehow. Interesting you say that. They're all coming out. They're all coming out and condemning method acting now. So many actors are coming out and saying just it's like it's no excuse for the fact you're a piece of shit.
01:51:04
Speaker
Stop. Like, stop using the excuse that you're getting into the character who, you know, to justify some of your actions. And sending dead creatures in the
Dungeons & Dragons Movie Expectations
01:51:12
Speaker
post, which I think was Heath Ledger getting ready for Joker. No, that was Jared Leto. Was it Jared Leto? Sorry. Yeah. But he's not really an actor. He's just a front man for a band turned into an actor. Right. So all the bad front man for a band behavior is kind of carried through, I think. I like Jared Leto. Yeah.
01:51:32
Speaker
I don't mind him as an actor, but he's a bit of a- There we go. Nice spectrum there on our thoughts of Jarrod. He's a bit of a- Speaking of spectrum, Dungeons and Dragons, our final trailer for this episode. Dungeons and Dragons Honor Among Thieves. AKA, the only thing they stole was the whole concept of an MCU movie.
01:51:58
Speaker
Because that's all I got out of that fucking trailer. I liked it. Ironically, I called it early, right? So they've got a like a 90s metal backing track throughout the trailer. The comedy beats are very MCU stolen kind of conceptually. I felt like they didn't.
01:52:19
Speaker
They just make a D&D fucking movie. If you're gonna do a D&D movie, make a D&D movie. Like bright, vivid color palette, interesting characters, interesting monsters. Don't turn it into an MCU flick. And then you look at who directed it. Jonathan Goldstein and John Francis Daley, who wrote...
01:52:39
Speaker
Spider-Man Homecoming and have been in the MCU the whole fucking time and it's like, okay, so there's no surprise. Chris Pine, I still don't buy it. I'm with you, Dan. I thought I was excited initially to hear that Chris Pine was in it and then you explained that you'd thought that was a bad idea and that it didn't really fit that IP and I saw the trailer and I'm kind of with you now.
01:53:01
Speaker
No, see, I'm the other way around. Chris Pine is a bard. They couldn't have picked a better class for Chris Pine. Have a bard. Give him a loot.
01:53:09
Speaker
I love, I love Michelle Rodriguez. I think she's a great actress. Um, but the idea of a party, so no one would sit down and play Dungeons and Dragons and have a party of five players all playing thieves. You just wouldn't do it. So I, they've already broken from the source. They steal things.
01:53:31
Speaker
But they're not all rogues. You've got the bard, you've got the druid, you've got the archer, you've got the fighter. And I think Rodriguez might be the only one that's the... No, what? An actual thief. She might be the only rogue of the group.
01:53:49
Speaker
And the bards you could argue are magical rogues, because they play the same way that a rogue does, just with like magical stabby stabbies instead of fucking blades. I don't know, I got that. You know, scaling from...
01:54:07
Speaker
What's Vox Machina, is it? He's fucking straight out a bard. That's a very different kind of bard. He is the epitome of what makes me laugh about fucking a critical role. I love that fucking character in that series. But they have their classes, they just happen to be their thing is stealing shit.
01:54:31
Speaker
They're a band of lovable mishits, which is exactly what D&D is. Well, that's true. It's just, I just found that I just hope that the trailer is a misrepresentation of Let's Try and Cram as much recognisable D&D fanfare into a movie as possible, instead of a plot.
01:54:52
Speaker
If it's both, I'm happy. If it's plot driven and yeah, cool. We get an eye of the beholder and cool. Fine. No problem. Sorry. Eye of the beholder. We get a beholder. Fine. But if it's another World of Warcraft movie where it panders so hardcore to the fans that it forgets to include a plot for everyone else, I'm going to be really pissed off because this is the second D&D movie. I doubt we'll get a third if they flop this one.
01:55:21
Speaker
Yeah, I wouldn't hold too high hopes for that plot. And the real question is, did we need a D&D movie? Did we need it? Is there a gap for that in the market at the moment? I don't think there is. I think we've got Vox Machina. That would have been more than enough. We've already got the perfect D&D movie, Dan. It's called Lord of the Rings. Like, why do we need
01:55:46
Speaker
Let's not let's not put Lord of the Rings, which is written in the 1930s under the D&D banner. Thank you very much. What makes D&D? Don't do it. You'll make me angry and you won't like me when I'm angry. What makes the D&D intellectual property good is that it stole its goodness.
01:56:07
Speaker
From Lord of the Rings in terms of the pantheon and the concept of elves and dwarves and it built upon it and turned into a tabletop game that was successful. So I'm not actually taking the piss like I'm not taking anything away from Lord of the Rings. I'm saying why do you need to make a D&D movie? We've already got it in Lord of the Rings, which is the source IP that D&D stole from. Stranger Things made it popular again.
01:56:31
Speaker
Yeah, Wizards of the Coast need to fucking cash the fuck in. Yeah, probably. Yeah. Also, Peter, I know you didn't mean it, but you also referred to the song playing in that trailer as a 90s metal song. Oh, right. Shit, sorry. I was going to say, it's like seven years.
01:56:50
Speaker
Yeah. Okay. All right. This is an 11% beer. Fuck you. That's why I was just like, you know, just, just letting you know. Yeah. Catching up. Catching your up on LZ. Oh, I'm just surprised. I'm just surprised it wasn't. We will rock you. So we'll wait for that in the next trailer. I'm so glad that it fucking wasn't.
01:57:09
Speaker
I'm so glad that it wasn't because that would have been, you know what? Fuck it. I'm not watching this movie. That's what that would have been. What was the, there was the, the mage in it. What was he just in? He was in something else recently as well. They've all been the, the tiefling druid girl was in, um, it, uh, yeah. And the mage guy has been in something recently too. Yeah. I just can't remember what.
01:57:35
Speaker
I didn't have room to put all of the major, like the party of five. Ah, he was in, I'm pretty sure he was the guy in Detective Pikachu. Yes. Yeah, it was. Yeah, I watched it. It was him. Yeah. I did too. The first one, they've made a sequel now, the Pikachu movie, haven't they? Or is that not being released yet?
01:57:52
Speaker
I thought that was excellent, that first movie. Justice Smith, that's his name. Justice Smith. Yeah, Sophia Lillis, the Druid, Justice Smith, the Sorcerer, Regé-Jean, Paige, the Paladin, Michelle Rodriguez, the Barbarian, Chris Pine, the Bard, and Hugh Grant, the Rogue. That was an actor I did not expect.
01:58:17
Speaker
Well, I mean, I don't know if he is either. He could be the bad guy for all I know. Yeah. I get the feeling he would be more. It sounds like, yeah, because I don't think like you guys talking about him, them all being thieves. It sounds like they've just been put on the highest. Yeah, it is.
01:58:35
Speaker
And he's just hired this party. So maybe he's, I don't even know if that could be kind of classified as maybe like a dungeon master kind of thing and like, cause he's setting them out. I am surprised that they've included, like it's at some of the conclusions. So they've got a Tabaxi in there, which is the cat people. A Tiefling you can at least directly relate to, right? It's a devil person.
01:59:00
Speaker
Tabaxi's kind of pushing it out there into pop-out, bad, fantasy movie kind of territory pretty quickly. I just want to know if they didn't change her skin colour, then it maybe would have been too much of a Marvel movie for the T-Fling. Hmm.
01:59:21
Speaker
There's water off in there anyway, um, cool. So that's dnd it's gonna be interesting. I don't even know when dnd is due for release Let me see. Uh, it's in post pride. It's expected march 2023 Chris pine would make an excellent dandelion. Oh, no, he's the bad guy. Yes,
Witcher 2 vs Witcher 3
01:59:39
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he would have Yes, he would have
01:59:42
Speaker
But I'm also very, very happy with the actor that is playing Dandelions. Yeah, in that side of it, yeah, no, he is excellent, too. Witches should be out soon, too. The blood origin. We were watching the Burn Butcher Burn episode today. Guy, you can sing that, too. It's good. Every time. When's the next season of Witcher out? It's got to be soon. I am drunk, so we are now just getting into random tangent territory. It's rambling tangents, yeah. We should move on to the spotlight.
02:00:14
Speaker
No, actually Tom, Tom, did you want to talk about your fourth beer? Haven't cracked it yet.
02:00:21
Speaker
Will you let me know when you're ready? And if we don't get to it in time, it's on you. So our spotlights kind of be games that we love to go back to and why. So I know Dan likes to play Witcher 3 once every month. He just turns the page on his calendar. Come on, like I wasn't going to fucking spike him like that after what he said before the episode started. I think I've played two more than I've played three.
02:00:49
Speaker
Honestly, and I want to talk about how many on my on my 42nd playthrough. I remember I noticed this new blade of brass for the first time. I'm sure you've you've kind of. I've played I've played Witcher 3 four times. I've probably played two. I'm thinking about going back and playing two again anyway. This is kind of a topic, but.
02:01:14
Speaker
Hmm. Two is an excellent. It is a topic. Two is a fucking amazing game. And that would be if. Now. I've not played it. Oh, and the only thing it's on PC and you can only give them PC and Xbox. So. That's fine. I have a PC. Yeah. But it's fucking, it's excellent. It's more linear than three, because three was the first open world, but it's more open than one.
02:01:35
Speaker
So one, you were very confined to set areas. There was no, actually two, there's no fast travel either. And it just really implemented some things a lot better than one did. And I still think two implements things better than three did as well. You have to prepare for fights. You can't, you can't quaff a potion halfway through a fucking fire. You have to
02:01:56
Speaker
Meditate you have to line up your potions. Okay. I'm gonna need this. I'm gonna need health regen over time I'm gonna need resistance to this and I've got only two or three belt clips for bombs That's that's all you can or you can clip on you can't You randomly craft some more in the middle of thing and drink some water and eat an apple and drink a drink a swallow potion You just you can't like you've got to meditate you've got to set it all up and you do it you do it in the semi open world and
02:02:26
Speaker
And it had cinematic finishes a lot more cinematic finishes than i think what three did three just had sort of cutting cut some guys arms and limbs off into there was quite cinematic finishes where he would.
02:02:41
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block a parry a blow, spin around and then hit someone with um, Igni, the fire sign. It would do a whole bunch of stuff like that and there was more diverse missions in too. There was stopping a siege that was happening on Mahakam. There was a takedown, a big fucking Kraken that was coming out of the water and it was only half out of the water swinging its tentacles at you.
02:03:07
Speaker
I think two was actually the better game out of all three of them, but three was...
02:03:14
Speaker
more sprawling because you had those big worlds and it popularized because it was cross platform. And it was at that time where the game... I also think it's that kind of game design is more accessible to the average kind of, you know, just happened across this game and it's similar enough to other games that I can get into it. Holy shit, the IP is amazing. That's what made it kind of accessible, I think. Yeah. Well, I played two first and then I went back to one and slogged through one.
02:03:43
Speaker
And then went back and played two, three or four more times. And then three finally came out years and years afterwards. And two, I'm gonna stand by. I think two is the better game. I think it really is. Fair enough. So have you played two more than once?
02:03:58
Speaker
Oh yeah, but I played two. Well, you have to play two more than once if you want to get everything because you play the introductory prologue and then you play the first open, semi open world mission based area. And then at the end of that, you have to pick a path.
02:04:16
Speaker
You have to go with Yorvath and the Scoia'tael, who are the rebel elves, or you have to go with... Shit, what was he? The Foltest bodyguard. He turns up in three.
02:04:34
Speaker
I can't remember his name, but you have to go, you have to use these two paths and they lead, literally lead you on to do two different sides of a no man's land war. And you can't, there are story missions that take you across that no man's land and you get to the other side, but the stories are completely different. And then that really, and then. So almost.
02:04:57
Speaker
Two games matched in a year and then at the at the very end is you come back to a central point so you play the same semi open world area again. And it plays out really politically and you have to make some real deep political choices with who you gonna line with.
02:05:20
Speaker
who whether he like Tom was asking the other day whether you take the Witcher out and stay neutral and just go with whoever pays you whether you take a moral ground whether you take a Ground that some people are going to get hurt that is ultimately better for the people of the area There's many many choices throughout too And I still think much more than three and I just think it makes it a better game all across the combat systems a little bit
02:05:46
Speaker
It's still good, it's still good, but I think 3's combat system is a bit more fluid, but the combat system is still good and everything like that. I think 2 is the better game. Fair enough. Tom, have you, so you're playing Witcher 3 now. Yes. Have you played it before?
02:06:08
Speaker
Yeah, I did my first playthrough and now I'm going back and doing so this is your death. Yeah. Okay. So it does fit into the main theme of the spotlight games you're going back to. Yeah. I wanted, I always wanted to go back and play it on death marks, but then, um, I got into the Gwent side of it very late and it took me forever to get on top of it. Now I'm got to do the Gwent part and I am loving it. The card game is quite brilliant.
02:06:35
Speaker
Yeah, once you understand it, it's like, but there's been ones where like, I've only just scraped through like last card down and then they've still got one and it's a clear weather and it's just like, fuck yes. Oh, I need you to have nothing there. That's great. Yeah.
02:06:52
Speaker
They ended up making it because they did the like the iPhone app collectible card game to compete with like Hearthstone from World of Warcraft. But I'm sure they did a Kickstarter campaign for the physical game. I've got all four physical decks. They came with the you got two decks with each physical copy of the DLCs.
02:07:15
Speaker
Yeah, I'm fairly certain they did a Kickstarter campaign to expand that into a full blown game. Because those four
Divinity Original Sin 2 Gameplay
02:07:23
Speaker
decks are pretty limited, right? They're not the- No, they're the full deck. It's a full game. There's more cards in the physical deck than there is in the digital Witcher 3 game. Game card deck. Okay. But there's a whole, there's a whole separate game that's Gwent on the PlayStation. I mean, you can get it on any platform, but there's a whole Gwent game. Yeah.
02:07:45
Speaker
So the Kickstarter that they ran was for the board game, the Witcher board game, not the, not the Gwent game. No, that's different. I know because I bought that. I'm waiting for the Kickstarter board game to be shipped to me, which is coming soon actually. They keep having to rebuild or re-engineer the cardboard box it comes in. That seems to be the delay at the moment because they can't fit all the shit in the box. I don't know where my Gwent cards are actually.
02:08:12
Speaker
There's supposed to be five decks. There's 460 cards total. They introduced the new deck in the DLC, the Skellige deck. I have no idea where those cards are. Anyway, that was a long rant about Witcher, but we're meant to be talking about games we come back to in line. Across the board. Tom, you talk about Ocarina of Time, because you have talked about that a few times while I take a two second bio break.
02:08:44
Speaker
It's going to go pee. That is what a bio break means, Tom. Thank you. Although from Dan's blank look, I'm glad you explained it. Well, I've never, ever heard anyone say it a long time ago for a bio break. I need to go to the toilet. I need a piss. It's an online video game reference because if you are playing like a World of Warcraft style massive online game, you say bio break. That means you're taking a piss. Standard terminology. Sure.
02:09:14
Speaker
You go take your leg, man. That was a very disappointed handshake from you, Peter. It was. You are in trouble, sir. Very, very disciplined. Yep, you're in trouble. Yeah, Ocarina of Time. It's just one that, like, I mean, this was also, I haven't played in a while because I don't have a 64 anymore. I haven't,
02:09:39
Speaker
Yeah, they remade it for the DS and I'm sure I can get a version of it on the switch. But whether it's that DS 3D remake or the original N64 Ocarina of Time. But it was that still stands to me as it was and still is one of the most perfect games I've ever played, especially for when it came out. It was
02:10:03
Speaker
Like yeah, just the way you like, you know, it's not the biggest world, but it's, it's, it's just perfectly enough sized. Like it, you know, when you had to run from one side of the map to the other for certain missions that were timed, it felt like, yeah, that's an appropriate amount of distance I have to cover.
02:10:24
Speaker
I don't know how many times I've started and finished Ocarina of Time over the years. Obviously, that was usually in my younger years because I didn't have money to buy new games every other week and didn't have services like PS Plus that dropped new games every month. It was a very, very well-worn cartridge by the
02:10:44
Speaker
the end of its life before I got a, I think, I think my dad's got the 64. But yeah, I don't know, it's just that's probably where that started, I guess, the idea of going back to a game. Like I knew, I can tell you the story from start to finish, you know, not quickly, but like I still don't know everything that happens in that game back to front, but it still brought me joy to be running around and, you know,
02:11:12
Speaker
I think the most annoying level is still Jabba Jabba's belly when you're going for the third stone in the Zora's kingdom. I don't know why, maybe it's because it was just this red pulsating world.
02:11:29
Speaker
Never sat with me, but yeah. That's definitely where that started for me. The idea of going back and playing a game repeatedly that wasn't multiplayer. Like, you know, I wouldn't count Goldeneye in that because, you know, you just always sat down and had four player runs in, in, in temple slappers only. That's where it's, you know, it's where men were made. Damn it. Back in the day. But then there's only a few other games really that I think
02:11:54
Speaker
But again, it came down to being younger and not having the cash available to go out and buy new games when I needed something new to play. So it's like, well, I'll go back and play that. Um, and different styles of game as well. So I like, I played through the God of all series, Mike.
02:12:11
Speaker
the whole three, the first three. I've played them all like six times, you know, back starting on the PS2. Lord of the Rings, the third age, which was the turn-based like Final Fantasy game. I played that start to finish probably a good six or seven times. Being, you know, obviously just being a Lord of the Rings, that worked for me as well.
02:12:33
Speaker
And then I guess more recently like with the lockdown I got back and got able to go back and play some games and played in forever and see how they held up like the Bioshock series. Which we told them not too long ago I think, on the podcast. Yeah because I played one, two and three. And everyone was hanging shit on me that I've never really played them.
02:12:52
Speaker
Yeah, you should play. They're good. They're good. Um, but yeah, like just seeing how they held up, cause that was a, they were pierced three titles. Um, first one, they still hold up.
02:13:05
Speaker
No, I'm getting pretty sure. They are getting on. Yeah. Um, and then I guess more recently, the only other game that I've really multiple playthroughs of it, um, that's not stealing some of that on Dan's list there is, um, Last of Us 1. I've played that a number of times. Still never finished the first one. I loved the game. It was a masterpiece. It was clear that it was a masterpiece and I got
02:13:30
Speaker
distracted. I think I was probably sent overseas for a work trip for like two weeks and I got back and I just didn't have the mental space to get back into it and just never did. Yeah. Beautiful game though. Yeah, the first encounter with those clickers when you had headphones on.
02:13:46
Speaker
That still sticks with me. That was just a moment. As is the whole prologue sequence still made me like I've watched that sequence till three times. It still makes me fog up every time. Yeah. Talk about an opening for a video. I think I've mentioned it on here before, but I still remember going to LA and seeing my cousin and him telling me about this game that was.
02:14:07
Speaker
about zombies, but it's all about like, you know, there's these, this, this, this fungus that gets into an ant's head. It's like those sort of zombies, not traditional zombies. I'm like, okay, it sounds cool, but like, what's the game going to be like? And then last of us came in like, fuck, okay. Broke the world. Really did. Yeah. But what would be, if you had to pick one game to go back to tomorrow, Tom, what would it be?
02:14:35
Speaker
Um, just before you answer that, Tom, like I wanted to- Yeah, I need time to think. I wanted to draw a line of distinction if you, if you two will agree that this isn't- Yep. The topic's not about nostalgia. Cause we do, we do go back to games due to nostalgia. Like I'll go back and play Sid Meier's Pirates for like the fifth or sixth time, because it's a piece of shit game. It was re-released for PS Vita and you can now get like an emulator for free. Um, because it reminds me of being a kid and playing that game.
02:15:05
Speaker
This is about why, you know, what games are so fucking great that you have to go back and play them because they're great, as opposed to they scratch that itch of reminding you. Why do you need to differentiate it to? Because we've waxed lyrical about nostalgia in so many podcast episodes. We have made that a major topic a few times this season alone is, you know, what anyway.
02:15:34
Speaker
Well, I mean, yeah, I agree with that. And I kind of said that about Ocarina of Time. For me, it was just like, it was the perfect game for the time and it still holds up. Like it's definitely one that I would probably have that list. I would, if I had to pick one, I'd probably go play Ocarina tomorrow. Yeah.
02:15:50
Speaker
Just because it was, it was deep. There was like a perfect size map. Um, it was just neat. It was an engaging story. The music's beautiful. Like I'm watching this dude on YouTube is currently rebuilding the whole thing in unreal engine five. And I'm like, every time an update comes up, I'm like, yeah, how good. Yeah. Yeah.
02:16:15
Speaker
But, um, yeah, I guess out of that, that list of games, um, they, they, they, that would be the one. Yeah. Ocarina just for the way it was like, especially for what 96, it came out. Um, yeah, like incredible for its time.
02:16:30
Speaker
Um, yeah. But I've, I've just rabbled on, so someone else has spit it out. Dan, you can, you can talk about nostalgia if you want. Like I'm just, it's more like Witcher, Witcher 2, everything you just said about Witcher 2 and everything we've talked about collectively, the three of us about Witcher 3, isn't because it represents an era of personal time for us. It's because the game itself is fucking brilliant and worth replaying.
02:16:56
Speaker
Yeah, that's kind of the distinction. I'm going to talk about my game after you talk about yours. So I've gone back to play Divinity Original Sin 2, which is a game that you and I played together, Dan, online for ages. Like we must have played that game on and off for 12 months and only got halfway through.
02:17:19
Speaker
and put that down. And the last time I played, based on my save game, the last time we played it was 2018, like the very beginning of 2018. And I went back and I'm like, I'm hankering for a turn based RPG Dungeons and Dragons style crawler game. And Divinity is, and we have talked about that on this podcast years and years ago, DOS2 is such a brilliant implementation of that system.
02:17:49
Speaker
Did they then, Larian Studios, went on to do Baldur's Gate 3, which we're still running on release. I think that's due next year now. Although you're playing Early Access at the moment. So I've gone back to play Divinity Original Sin 2, and that's what I've been just completely enraptured by over the last few weeks.
02:18:08
Speaker
Is there the game like the combat mechanics the complexity of the elements mixing together you know water on the ground at lightning you get shocking water. On the ground that can shock your opponents the the narration and the voice acting is fucking hilarious like it takes the piss out of itself.
02:18:29
Speaker
While still being quite a serious IP and the storyline itself is really engaging. It's an interesting story to play through. I don't think the reason I wanted to play it is because I don't think there's much in the market right now that is like that. You have to go back or wait for boulders get three.
02:18:50
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah, there's not really much out there at the moment that'd be turn-based, that kind of stuff. Yeah. I mean, it's real time until you get into the combat and then it becomes turn-based, but it's a strategic game where, like Dan, you were saying, you kind of need to know your enemy before you get in into the fight and you need to prepare. And whilst the preparation is different from Witcher, you're not, you know, pre-drinking buff potions and those sorts of things.
02:19:15
Speaker
You are memorizing the right spells to pave the way for you to be successful in that combat. You need to know, okay, I'm fighting somebody who's got, you know, three wizards in a rogue. There's no fighter. Okay. I don't need to, I don't need to counter a tank. I need to counter someone who's going to be invisible until he stabs me in the fucking back and then three casters. So buff magic armor, which will protect you from the casters with a little bit of physical armor for the invisible guy that's going to stab you in the back.
02:19:45
Speaker
You have to think about that kind of stuff. It's quite tactical in that sense. Yes, it's very good game. It's a good story. It's a good, like you said, voice acted. It's across the board. I wish they hadn't have gotten rid of their scissor paper rock determination thing from the first one. In the first game. I like that little mechanic. I also...
02:20:14
Speaker
Sorry, Tom, that was something when you were playing multiplayer and the first one was if you both picked a dialogue option and you would play Scissor Paper's Rock if it was to polar opposite. Was that what it was? To see what dialogue option got put forward to that NPC to then forward the conversation and end up in a fight.
02:20:38
Speaker
So if an NPC asked the party a question and Dan's two characters said, I agree, and Pete's two characters said, I disagree, that goes into rock, paper, scissors as to what the response back to the NPC is. And fucking hell, it had some funny results sometimes. You had to play rock, paper, scissors every single conversation. Actually, yeah, yeah, reasonable amount. I only found out today and I am pretty upset because I'm trying to do a
02:21:09
Speaker
I was trying to do a single run Platinum run through of the game and like Divinity Original Sin 1, the Platinum requires you to play the game in honor mode, the hardest difficulty, and it is a very steep ramp from normal to honor mode, from tactician to honor mode.
02:21:32
Speaker
And it involves permadeath. So you get one save file. There's like quick save and save are the same thing if one of your party members. So the game's designed around you having four characters in the game. Oh, I think you've told us. Yeah, I told you around DOS 1, Divinity Original Scene 1. You play as four different characters of various different D&D style classes.
02:21:59
Speaker
If one of those characters dies in combat, it autosaves. And because you've only got one slot, you can't just load the combat from the start and not have that character die. If you party wipe, it deletes your save file. You start the fucking game again. And this is a 200 hour plus game.
02:22:18
Speaker
Yeah. And sometimes you can die doing dumb shit that you never really thought that you could possibly, like you never sensed any danger. You know, going into fight, into, into combat, you might die and you prep or you outlevel it. But I almost party wiped last night because I saw there was a rune that was worth maybe five gold. I didn't need.
02:22:45
Speaker
Right next to some lava so I had one of my two characters I'm doing an on a mode run through and I thought I'd make it even more difficult for myself so instead of having four people in my party I'm playing two. Two people in my party with the lone wolf perk which means that they're supposed to be more powerful than a normal.
02:23:06
Speaker
member of a four-person party. You can play as four, or you can play as two. If you play as two, then they get perks for not having the full complement of four. You get a few buffs, but you don't get as much versatility because there's not four of you. You can't have a rogue and a mage and a fighter and an archer. You've got two.
02:23:28
Speaker
So yeah, I went, I teleported my character right next to the lava and I miscalculated and she landed in the lava, which is instant death. And I'm like, that's okay. I can just, I can rezzer. Oh, I can't quite reach her.
02:23:44
Speaker
I'll teleport my second character down. It wasn't last night, it was the night before because I was a bit inebriated and we weren't out for your party, Tom. And yeah, I party wiped and had to go back to a USB file save because the only way to work around permadeath is to every few hours you stop, close the game, copy your save file from your PlayStation to a USB key and then pull the USB key out of the USB port because it'll delete
02:24:14
Speaker
off that too. That's cruel. That's pretty cruel. So I found out today, unfortunately, that I made a silly mistake right at the very start of the game. That means that I can't do a platinum one playthrough run. Everything's engineered around play the game once in the most hardcore difficulty and you get all the trophies.
02:24:38
Speaker
I didn't realize there was a silly distinction in character generation that meant that there's one trophy that you cannot get on my run through.
02:24:48
Speaker
So I'm going to have to play the whole fucking game again. Thankfully I can play in the dumbest difficulty and I might try and do like a speed run. The world record is 19 minutes for the game as a speed run from start to finish. And I only have to get three quarters of the way through to get challenged for this dialogue between the two characters to get the trophy I'll be missing. So 19 minutes, 19 minutes for a 200 hour game.
02:25:15
Speaker
Do they clip like they use? So Larian Studios, there are exploits in the game. There's no question about that. There's, there's stuff in there that obviously wasn't designed to work the way that it does at times.
02:25:29
Speaker
For example, if you engage in dialogue with the big bad, like the leader of a party, so your character might walk up to a group of bad guys or a group of characters that are neutral, and it will automatically engage your main character in dialogue. And at the end of that dialogue, they'll either be friendly or you'll be fighting, right?
02:25:49
Speaker
Whilst your main character's in dialogue, your secondary character can start wailing hell on that person that's talking to you. And until you end the dialogue, they just take it. So you can kind of exploit that mechanic and they'll start with one attack worth of damage. It's not like you can just kill them outright and you end the dialogue with your main character and they just die, but you can exploit that mechanic.
02:26:18
Speaker
Um, but this guy's obviously, I haven't watched the speed run video. It's on YouTube. It's 19 minutes long. The whole world record. Yeah. The teleport pyramid Stan. Um, apparently he puts all his points in strength and telekinesis and just pegs the fucking teleporter pyramid as far down the dungeon as he can. And then teleports to himself, like to the pyramid and then throws it again. And he does that for the whole fucking game. Just avoids all combat basically.
02:26:48
Speaker
Anyway, that's a game I went back to after four and a bit years of not playing. I went back because there isn't really anything in the market at the moment that is similar. And I really wanted that kind of tactic style game.
02:27:04
Speaker
Damn. Mine's pretty easy. Super Mario 3. Fucking love it. Go back to it any day of the week. Happily sit there for hours, and I'm fucking terrible at it. And I'll just happily pump lives through that game until I'm done. So you're going to have to put the dollar coins in the machine that's all good? Fucking love Super Mario 3. I think it's fantastic. I played enough of the first one.
02:27:33
Speaker
And there's something weird about the number existing. There is no two or something. I don't know how that works. Tom, do you know how that works? We talked about that in an old episode. Well, there was Super Mario World. I love it. I think it's fantastic. I think it's a great awesome platformer. I think it's got a wide variety of different ways to finish levels and secrets to find and
02:28:01
Speaker
Yeah you can just you can you can speedrun it you can turn into the raccoon and completely jump and fly over a fucking level you can do all sorts of shit I think it's great I think it's an awesome game I think it's just a really
02:28:16
Speaker
I mean, God, it's the original platformer, like modern day, modern day side scrolling platformer style. So yeah, I think it's great. Fantastic. Brew, if you're too young and listening and you've never played Super Mario 3, go and buy that on your Switch. Buy it. Yeah, definitely. Short, sweet, done. Next.
02:28:41
Speaker
We started early so we could finish early. Fuck off. We're done. Bye. Give me shit about being old man. No, we're not at mic drop time. It's only... Well, I'm going to quickly review my last beer before we do enough. Yes, please do enough. Because I did just crack it. And we... The last beer I've chosen for the night, which will be probably something I'll take with me back to the couch so I can continue playing Witcher 3, is brackets and fresh static. That's an 8% double IPA.
02:29:12
Speaker
Chinook, Cinco and Citra hops and they've just described it as you know using some of their original hazies it does pour quite quite thick and golden it did have a lovely lovely foamy white head that has since dissipated as I've been slowly sipping in it and it's been just sitting there but yeah it's
02:29:32
Speaker
It's what those hobs are known for it's it's and like got a big tropical juicy hit from the Citro, you get a bit of that pine from the Simco. And it's bracket they they know what they're doing. They when it comes to a hazy style beer, you know, which is still pretty for me remarkable for such a young.
02:29:53
Speaker
Young brewery, testament to Mike's brewing skill. And yeah, it's a nice solid 8% that's not too much of a whack a boost to the face. It is, you know, not saying sessionable, but it is smooth. It's very smooth. Yeah.
02:30:16
Speaker
Uh, I wouldn't say it hides the booze. You know, the booze is there, but it's not a burning boost sensation. It is, uh, like, you know, it is gradual. Um, yeah, it's very well done. I'll give that a solid four and a half. Well done. Give yourselves a pat on the back.
02:30:34
Speaker
Yeah, I've had a fair few of those. They're their IPAs and this one. It's not it's not that over over hit of sweetness, which is good. Yeah, they try and it's almost like they're trying to bury the ABV in sugar. Yeah, sweetness.
02:30:54
Speaker
Cool, I think we'll quickly finish with Are You Winning Son? There might be some overlap here. Dan, are you winning son? Yeah, you were just talking about not being a divinity original sin, similar, something.
02:31:13
Speaker
Um, I've worded that really badly. It's getting late. Brian's shutting down. Um, the dungeon of, I can't even pronounce that, uh, Nahulabik? Nahulbuk? Yep. It is the dungeon of Nahulbuk, the amulet of chaos. And it's a turn-based
02:31:35
Speaker
D&D classed super comical off the wall The party's constantly talking at each other and making comments and silly dumb shit like to the point where
02:31:48
Speaker
You don't control any single one party member. You control, well, you do. I like. You do control a single party member, but you can switch between any party member at any time you like. You don't have to have one party member running free around in your free roam areas and everything like that. And I was running the party through. Cartoon style graphics. Oh, a hundred percent. Yeah. And they look like animated minis.
02:32:16
Speaker
Like Pixar. And I was running them through a hallway in the dungeon and ran through a trap that I didn't detect because I wasn't using the thief and I've gone, ah, shit. And then the little, the little Scottish dwarf in there has gone, ah, shit.
02:32:32
Speaker
And I'm like, uh, okay. It was just a complete mimicry. I was just a little bit quicker than he was. Uh, and it's, it's really comical. X, X-Com, X-Com engine. Okay. Apparently.
02:32:47
Speaker
Yeah, it doesn't surprise me. And it's rock-paper-shotguns, so that makes sense. The combat system's in it great. It's all turn-based. You get one turn and one move. It's not an action point system like Divinity Original's in, so you are limited to what you can do per idiot. Well, that's the D&D engine, right?
02:33:08
Speaker
your special skills. You've got a skill tree that goes up, you drop all your standard RPG stuff, but all the items have named crazy out there things. The personalities of every character in there is just dialed up to 11 completely. It's just
02:33:24
Speaker
The little Scottish mining dwarf is always bickering with the blonde bimbo elf ranger. The big dumb ogre guy carries all the goods in his backpack on his back and he's got a pot as a helmet or a strainer or something like that. The barbarian is
02:33:46
Speaker
You mean a colander? I picked up a colander yesterday. The barbarian is Conan. He's a blonde Conan, always talking to Krom, talking about the riddle of steel. There's a point where you go into a tavern in the dungeon and there's a mysterious ranger sitting in the corner smoking a pipe and they make all these Lord of the Rings references and it's just, it's just
02:34:12
Speaker
complete pop culture references, wall to wall pop culture references. It's like fucking Discworld meets D&D. It's just it's completely off the wall and it's super fun. The combat is very challenging at times and then other times you just like the other guys might just completely with it and miss and everything like that. But you've got to
02:34:38
Speaker
When you move, you have to align your character to where you want him facing, him or her. And if you don't, like the other characters can literally walk behind your character and get a backstab in because you haven't aligned your character in that right direction.
Role-playing Game Parody
02:34:57
Speaker
And your character, there's a support mechanism mechanic in it where the players, the characters next to each other, if they're both facing the same... It's not just about being in the space next to it. You actually have to be facing the same enemy for them to support the attack on that particular enemy. So I like all that extra bits, those extra mechanics. You've got...
02:35:24
Speaker
Yeah, you've got when bad things happen within the the the combat or something unfortunate happens during the combat you've got a little meter in your bottom corner that winds itself around four extra actions that are a blessing, I say that in quotation marks, from one of the gods and you can use them to do certain things but you just know it's going to come back to bite you in the ass later on like you use it too much and they're going to you
02:35:52
Speaker
Yeah, you're going to be in a thrall to this God at some stage for using it. But going through a dungeon at one point and I came on a room that had a goblin running Wheel of Fortune and you stood there and played Wheel of Fortune. The little Scottish dwarf wanted to pay Wheel of Fortune because he wanted to win more gold.
02:36:16
Speaker
Okay, so yeah, it's across the board. Yeah, so if anybody like the sound of Divinity or you've played Divinity earlier, turn-based combat, I mean, this is super fun. Like a lot of the negative reviews I read on Steam where people saying, I got sick of like the over
02:36:35
Speaker
Yeah. I got sick of the over, the overcomical banter between the characters and I'm like, are you fucking serious? Like you should know this going in. You know this from the first 10 seconds you start playing that it's over the top. Yeah.
Recording Software Complaints
02:36:48
Speaker
It's not just me.
02:36:51
Speaker
It's gone. We have controls. Hey, look at me. The company we use for recording needs to be replaced. I've decided because that's fucking bullshit.
02:37:07
Speaker
Yeah, originally the dungeon of, I don't know, is a role playing parody. What was that movie that that was in where they just, he couldn't pronounce the word, so he just kind of skipped it. Evil Dead. It was Evil Dead. Yeah, that's right. He was reading from the, from the neck. I have to move rekt up. You have to recite from the neck. It's been reused a couple of times.
02:37:28
Speaker
parody that started as an audio saga. So it must have been some sort of podcast that all similar kind of format, audio format.
02:37:38
Speaker
It's really interesting. That is interesting.
Upcoming Multiplayer Games Excitement
02:37:42
Speaker
Speaking of games that are kind of similar, because I did some looking up, because I have been waiting for Baldur's Gate 3. We're going to play that multiplayer online. I'm excited for that idea, because the personalities, plus Larian's studio personality, because Larian made Divinity and is making Baldur's Gate 3. I know that's going to be hilarious, drunken stupidity playing that game.
02:38:07
Speaker
I wanted something in the meantime. There's a game D&D Dark Alliance on PlayStation 4 and 5. Yeah. No? No. It got really, really, really horrible. Yeah, that's something that's recent. Yeah, it is very recent, but apparently- Yeah, it got ripped to shreds. Yeah.
02:38:26
Speaker
Yep. And then fell into oblivion. IGN four out of 10. Yeah. Okay. That's four out of 10. PC Gamer gave it 82 out of a hundred though. I might check it out anyway, just cause I'm a sticklooper punishment. You really are drunk Pete. Why am I slurring? Have a look at, have a look at beer four on the run sheet.
02:38:56
Speaker
Dan's not drinking. That's funny. Right. Well, that's everything I wanted to say. If you guys wanted to add any more to Are
Doom 2016 Achievements
02:39:04
Speaker
You Winning, Son? Otherwise I'm signing off. I did. Cause I want to talk about my Doom 2016 run. Didn't we talk about that last episode though?
02:39:14
Speaker
No I hadn't done the UAC mission on ultra nightmare. That was permadeath. That's you know normally you die in doom and you go back to a safe point or one point or whatever. Not in ultra nightmare mode you start the level from the beginning so you get to save every mission so you have to do every.
02:39:36
Speaker
Mission once you got one shot to do it and as an indication of how much damage each like it takes the imp which is and you know actually know the for the. Forsaken this the soldier the the bait half your health one hit like.
02:39:57
Speaker
You basically get two hits. You have to do a no hit run mode. Armor, you know, when you're in the smallest bit of armor, you normally pick up in the easiest mode is five. It goes down to one, and there's like three pieces of armor you can pick up in the first mission.
02:40:18
Speaker
Yeah, and then you get like the full suit power armor power up that would be worth normally between 25 and 50 armor points. It's worth like 10. So you're not getting much The health as well the health pickups aren't there normal there. They're dialed right back. So, you know You need to focus on your glory kills because you need to get as much health as possible from every little small hit you get
02:40:44
Speaker
And for the for the this is the last mission I did for that for the for the platinum minutes. You have to do the first mission thank God cuz I could not have played that entire game cuz it's so hectic Lee fast-paced like.
02:40:58
Speaker
It took me a good 30 tries to get this and then I just had to get into that rhythm. And this is, I just played the game through again to go for all the collectibles and find all the little doom guys and, and power-ups and stuff. And I did that on the easiest mode cause I was like, just going to smash through it. Forgot how much fun I was having. I was just like, maybe we'll turn up the difficulty a little bit on this one just to cause it's fun. And then I went back to this. I was like, Oh shit. I thought I was going to breeze through this, but Jesus, that's a kick to the face.
02:41:25
Speaker
Um, but I've, I've managed to do it on a, on a PlayStation controller as well. So, yeah, that's what I think. Impressive. Yeah. Fucking auto controller. Jesus Christ. And you only have the shotgun. You have the shotgun and the pistol. That's the only two. So it's like, you can sit back and like snipe like buying cover. You have to, you're lucky.
02:41:45
Speaker
Yeah. It's just all kind of make it up as you go action. It embodied the original Doom, right? Yeah. Because it's, you just have, you cannot stop. You stop, you die. Might try and put as much of your Platinum run video footage into the YouTube episode as I can, because it was quite a long. I did put it up on YouTube. Yeah. It's kind of a long video sequence, but I'll try and cram as much. You don't need to, you actually, you only need to do the first bit. That's the most hectic part.
02:42:15
Speaker
That's the most, cause there's nothing to like assist you. Like when you get halfway through the level, you get a power up. So you get the explosive, like explosive round shotgun shotgun. Yeah. So you get like a grenade launch from the bottom of your shotgun. So that's like, that helps massively. But that first one, it's just, you've just got to just keep running and keep shooting and hope that you hit. And if you get stuck on a little bit of rock, then someone slices you from the back and it's just like, fuck.
02:42:38
Speaker
And yeah, and so that was my achievement over the last
Witcher 3 Gameplay Exploration
02:42:41
Speaker
couple of weeks. And now I'm thoroughly back into the Witcher. I've just finished the Bloody Baron and the Bloody Baron. I've gone to an overgrad now.
02:42:52
Speaker
Yeah. Which is great, because Emma's watching The Witcher again while I'm like, and then she's like, all right, you can take over. I'm like, well, I guess when I'm just going to play The Witcher. Fucking Geralt household at the moment. I need to try and dig up, because I only recently discovered through conversations, I think maybe on the podcast that I never finished the Skelegrad DLC. The two DLCs. Yeah. No, the Tucson.
02:43:18
Speaker
No, it was the Tucson, it was the French Quarter, is the bit that I missed, yeah. The Gontro Diem one, and then the... Blood and Wine. Fairy Tail, yeah. Yeah, I need to find my, hopefully, PS Plus saved my PlayStation 4 save game, so if I load it up on a PS5, I can pick up where I left off.
02:43:42
Speaker
But I'm going to have to relearn the combat system and the interface and all the rest of it because I haven't played the game in three or four years.
02:43:49
Speaker
Yeah, I've definitely found I'm playing it differently this time. I am. I think the first time I ran through it because it was interesting you said that so many people that you found the gameplay of Witcher 3 to be more accessible. The amount of people I know who like started it and then had to put it down and came back to it and then started it and came back. Really? I was one of them. It took me it took me like three or four plays to get really sink my teeth in.
02:44:13
Speaker
Um, but you know, once I did, I was like, yeah, I'm in this for the long haul and I played it with the two DLCs as well. So like. I don't remember there being a hard conversion for me to kind of settle into that game. No, I don't, I don't, I don't think it's necessarily hard. It's just for some people that just didn't kind of.
02:44:31
Speaker
To me, it really wasn't that hard a conversion. Yeah. You get thrown into a world that is part. Well established. Ten of the story, the books, and then three games. Like you're being thrown into this story with characters you don't know, you have no relationship that are already well on their journey that
02:44:53
Speaker
The two characters that you start with have spent 350 years together. But I didn't find that jarring because that was my, Witcher 3 is my first foray into the Witcher universe, so. Yeah, but some people. I know a fair few people who, yeah, they just.
02:45:09
Speaker
They couldn't get into it, but then they put it down, come back to it like, you know, six months later and they're like, oh yeah, and then, no, maybe not. And then, oh, I better go finish. I got nothing else to play. And it's like, oh no, this is the time. And it seems to be everyone was on a rule of three. Like once they got this further, they're like, nah, okay, I'm going to stick with it now. I will finish it. The whole thing. Um, yes, I've definitely played submissions differently. Um, I got to do this time because of my.
02:45:34
Speaker
I changed my Witcher 2 choices at the start, because you had to load in your Witcher 2 story if you want. I finally got to do the Letho mission, so that was pretty cool. That was a little fun one. Letho's great. Letho's fucking awesome. I loved him too.
02:45:50
Speaker
Yeah, just the cinematic, they released Witcher 2 and then later on they came back about six months later and introduced a different opening. Just the ice boat? Which was Letho on the boat, yeah. Yeah. And that didn't come out until, yeah, like three or four months after Witcher 2 came out and I'm like, fuck, are those avatars? Yeah, it was great.
Episode Closing Remarks
02:46:17
Speaker
But yeah, no, so yes, it's good to go back. It's a good world. It's a very well built world. It's just fun. Yeah, definitely.
02:46:24
Speaker
Cool. I think some little rappers for the episode. Lovely. Thank you very much for joining us yet again. I'm quite busy now, so I think it might be bedtime. Early bed night. He's gone real soft. You lead it with love song dedications. He's out throwing love song debutations. Yeah, there you go. I'm just in a really nice, warm, mellow place. Yeah, you can tell you're all warm and fuzzy.
02:46:50
Speaker
That one drop 72 word fucking beer name just really took me out for the night. Fantastic. Well done one drop. You've done it again. You dropped them in one after two. Thank you for listening.
02:47:05
Speaker
And sorry for the broken schedule. Our lives have been pretty crazy between three of us, so this whole season. You're lucky to get anything at all, the lot of you. We're a gift to you. Jasper's going to end the episode. All right. See you guys. Bye.