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S6 E18: Up Late - Squeaky Clean
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As an extension of recent episodes, we thought we'd cover off some of the TV shows, movies and video games that we use as palate cleansers between AAA titles.
Beers reviewed this episode:
- Hawkers Beer - '3 Maple Barrel-Aged Imperial Stout - 11.8%
- Deeds Brewing - The Third Horseman ('21) - Imperial Stout - 10%
- Dainton Beer - Darklord - Imperial Stout - 10%
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Transcript
Introduction and Beer Selections
00:00:19
Speaker
And welcome back. This is another Pixels and Pints Up Late. This is a lovely Thursday evening and we're coming to you semi-live, just like I've got a semi. This is, again, with me. Joining me in my semi is Pete. I am joining you in your semi. And Dan. I definitely had to put myself on mute for that.
00:00:39
Speaker
Absolutely fucking got him. And tonight we're doing one of our famous upload episodes. It's just a little one, one shot, one shot wonder. We've got a lovely, I think we've all got a lovely big, I'm going to assume dark, delicious beer. Oh, I thought about that. And then I saw it was 20%. I went, you know, Jesus is 20%. I did not look at that. 19.2, I think.
00:01:02
Speaker
Okay, I might rethink my choice.
Main Topic Introduction: Palate Cleansers
00:01:04
Speaker
Dan's going to make a slow exit towards his fridge and rethink his beer choice. Fucking barley wine. But yes, now we're doing a one short episode and it is on, let me remember, palette cleansers. Cleansing your palette like the dulcet tones of my voice. What TV shows, movies, and potentially video games do we go back to when we just need a little break?
00:01:28
Speaker
There's, you know, we're stuck in that story, but no, I'm not feeling like I'm going to watch that tonight. Let's jump back into something we love and know. Um, so that's, yep, that's us tonight. Kind of rolled out of last episode. So we, we filmed the most recent episode, which is another up late, uh, the back logged episode, which we called something else.
00:01:50
Speaker
God, I should know. It literally went up tonight. So we're recording at the same night that we're publishing the other episode all backed
Guilty Pleasures as Palate Cleansers
00:01:56
Speaker
up. God, we're efficient. Nothing. We're efficient. Where we talked about all this, all the stuff that's in our backlog that we're planning on working through after.
00:02:05
Speaker
The sag after a brighter blocks a catch up with this on but sunny blocks writer blocks not. This is technically true it's probably the writer writer and actor strike yeah yeah.
00:02:25
Speaker
What am I going to write it on the head. Yeah, something's coming. But you talked to, you asked, you asked the question actually around guilty pleasures, I think it was. Yes. And we talked through some guilty pleasures, but, but a lot of those end up being palate cleansers because we, we consume a lot of, we consume a lot of content very rapidly. So we'll just inhale a season of XYZ and you need something to break it up after that because doing back to back seasons is,
00:02:51
Speaker
Can add up
Beer Reviews and Tasting Notes
00:02:52
Speaker
depending on what you're watching. I think you guys definitely inhale a season more than I do. I've slowed right down. I'm not the worst in that sense. But I, I envelop games like, you know, I'm a starving child who's found food for the first time. Yeah. So that's the plan. That's, that's the, the topic for this evening. Do you want to, let's, let's kick off with some beers. I think. I will crack mine then. No, or we can start yakking if you'd prefer.
00:03:22
Speaker
Because Dan probably hasn't had a chance to figure out what he's drinking yet. We check the ABV, mate. Yeah, it's 10% this one. 10%. I didn't even look at the ABV. You mentioned it when we were rolling, well, when we decided to do this surprise recording. So I just like, okay, well, if he's going to have that one, I'm going to have that one too. I didn't even look at it. That's a sipping beer.
00:03:47
Speaker
It's also a very special beer too, so that's definitely one to savour. Well, if you guys aren't ready, I am, so I'll start off, I guess. So I'm drinking the 2023 release of Hawker's Imperial Stout Maple Edition.
00:04:09
Speaker
So every year they release a few different ones. They usually do a pure bourbon barrel one. They do a maple one. I believe they usually do a fruited. Are there a rum barrel? A rum barrel? Sorry, you're right. Which would be slightly fruity.
00:04:25
Speaker
Yeah, but they've also done some fig. They did peanut butter and jelly this year. A double imperial stout at 14.1%. So yeah, they do a variety. The cans all look very similar. This one, you guys probably won't be able to see in this light, but it's a black can with
00:04:44
Speaker
A gold monster carved into it. With a white and skull. Yeah. It comes in at a toasty 11.8 cents. And it is absolutely gorgeous. Yeah. It's loads and
Sensory Experience of Beer
00:05:02
Speaker
loads of vanilla. What's a dark malt? A little bit of, like a lot of coffee, a little bit of chocolate, but sweet chocolate finishes quite sweet.
00:05:14
Speaker
Um, it's fucking more ish, to be honest, but what a lot of coconut as well. So it's, um, it's very nicely balanced actually. I'm going to sip this one cause I have a feeling it's going to get even more sensational as it opens up. Um, I don't know what I would expect out of, out of maple precisely,
Debate: What Makes a Good Palate Cleanser?
00:05:35
Speaker
as opposed to the same beer without the maple added, but.
00:05:42
Speaker
I was going to say a little bit of acidic bitterness and also a little bit of kind of that acidic sweetness as well. Yeah. So yeah, I'm very enjoyable. I'm going to give that a four and a half because that's a crack and beer. Delicious. Well, I'm just going to mute myself for a sec because my PC's been a dick. Okay. Well, do you Tom? Looks like it's all on old. What'd you call me?
00:06:10
Speaker
No, goofy, goofy head. All good. All good. You can still go. Yes. Okay. Um, I am drinking a beer that I have salad for the last two, um, because I sometimes have patients often don't, but sometimes I do. So I am drinking.
00:06:25
Speaker
No no no I knew exactly what it was. So I've got my beer fridge and there's the regular fridge and then there's my beer fridge. And there's the vegetable crisper down the bottom is where I put a lot of the stouts that I need to lie down and stuff. Then actually in the top little section where you probably put your butter or whatever in your normal fridge, that's also full of stouts. So I've got two sections that are just full of stouts.
00:06:47
Speaker
Anyway, I'm having Deeds brewing the third horseman, which is the third in their range. I've sat on this one. If it's anything like the other ones, which it seems to be, it pours a delicious darkness. These are usually more of a chocolate milk stout. I haven't tried it yet. I was going to let it warm up a bit, but I'll have a quick little treat myself.
00:07:12
Speaker
So they've all been stouts of some sort. I remember you have all been an Imperial stout. Yeah. I actually, I still, I already have the fourth horseman is in the fridge. Cause I went to grab that and I was like, pretty sure I still got the third in there. And then I looked to the back corner and there he is just sitting there just biting his time, just boring at the ground with his hooves. Um, so yes, they, it's.
00:07:34
Speaker
Yeah, it's like a chocolate milk imperial stout, but it's delicious. It's fantastic. I don't even need to let that warm up. It's just going to get better as I sift through it. It comes in at 10%. And each one is a nod to a different horseman. So this is the nod to the rider carrying his scales upon the black horse.
TV Show Palate Cleansers
00:07:59
Speaker
Anyone knows all the story, which I can't remember. All that time we spent in Catholic Church learning the stories. No, they didn't teach us that because that was the fun shit. They never taught us that. Well, that's all the fire and brimstone shit. They don't teach you the fire and brimstone shit. In the Catholic Church? Yeah. That's all Old Testament stuff. Oh, they still do Old Testament stuff. That shows the amount of time. I don't know. It is famine.
00:08:22
Speaker
Yeah, here we go. The third horseman rides a black horse and is properly understood to be famine as the horseman carries a pair of balances or weighing scales, indicating the way that bread would have been given weighed would have been weighed during a famine.
00:08:35
Speaker
There you go. So this is famine. Uh, and then there's one more in the series, which is the, uh, is death. It's the last one. And I think they actually upped the ABV. Yeah, it's, it's got a really, really nice chocolate flavor to it. Not overly sweet. There is a nice balanced roastiness at the bottom booze is coming through, but not too heavy. Um, and look, if I was in an apocalypse and I found this, I'd be fucking cheering. So I am, I am definitely giving that.
00:09:08
Speaker
It's a four point, 4.5. Yeah. I would like it a touch. I would like it actually a touch higher. I would like it a touch boozier.
00:09:21
Speaker
Just to, just to cut through that, the sweetness of that chocolate just a little bit. I think just a little, little tiny bit and more booze would do that. Yeah, it just, it balances out here, but it's, it's, it's yeah. Decadent and rich and which is kind of the opposite of famine. So that's great. Surprising they didn't go the other way and do a really dry.
00:09:42
Speaker
Yeah. That would have been really cool. Yeah. Yeah. Really dry, really dusty dry. Use a whole bunch of black malt in it to make it really ashy and dry. But I mean, you've also got to, I guess you've got to appeal to customers too. You just appeal to me and I will be drinking that. That Timmy he was talking about before? Not Timmy anymore. At least three quarters.
00:10:06
Speaker
Dan, what have you got? I'm continuing the dark monstrous themes with the Dark Lord from Dayton. Tom's had this one before. It's a medium 10% from the 20% that I had sitting in here before. I had to pull my light down before to read the back of it. This was a force.
00:10:29
Speaker
Wasn't this the July the, July the 4th? May 4th. Yeah, May 4th. I'm sorry, May 4th. Jesus.
Re-watching Comfort Shows
00:10:34
Speaker
I checked out. Sorry. Carry on. Oh, is that what Tom did for May the 4th? Yeah. That's when they released it. It was released for May the, it's a new annual release for Dane for May the 4th.
00:10:45
Speaker
You actually got the last cans we had of it. Yeah. I had it the other night. It was, I thoroughly enjoyed it, but they're the ones that did the peer, the, I can't remember the name of it, but it was the imperial super trooper. The super troopers, the imperial neighbor, and then they do the imperial red owl, which is the chewy. Yep. Yep. Which I think we've tried at least some of these on the podcast. We haven't tried this once. I'm somewhat amazed that we haven't tried this one on the podcast, to be honest. Tom did, didn't he?
00:11:10
Speaker
None of the podcast. Oh, didn't he? No, I had it on, I had it on tap at the May 4th. Yeah. Okay. Well, it's, it's fantastic. It's, uh, it's nice and cocoa chocolate, not milk chocolate. So in opposition to what Tom just had, it's got a real good.
00:11:31
Speaker
dark malt, roasted malt, astringent bitterness to it, which anybody listening regularly knows that I like things nice and bitter and harsh. And the Ebooz is very well hidden for 10%. It hasn't got a sweet body to it. It obviously has some sweetness there to balance all that out, but
00:11:52
Speaker
The roasty, nutty, chocolatey, like cocoa chocolatey character to it is absolutely fantastic. Um, it's, it's a fucking like 440 mil can. Yeah. It's a 440 mil can of a 10% of Jesus Christ. Yeah. So is mine. Yep. So it's fine. Yeah. Yeah. 440s. I think bruising, they think we're going to share them, but they don't realize that we're absolute pigs in our own filth and we're just going to pour it on ourselves if we don't like.
00:12:21
Speaker
Yeah. So we'll, we'll see how this rolls out. I mean, this is the perfect, I mean, this is exactly what we aim for for these updates is to have one. There's been many times where, uh, where Emma's come home back when we used to do all the small batch stuff in four, 40 mil cans and she'd come home and I'd just be passed out, but it's perfectly, perfectly on the chest just held. And I'm just back in the couches. Snoring away. But yeah, didn't spill a drop. Never spilt a drop. Yeah.
00:12:49
Speaker
Yeah, so that's a great Imperial Stout. It's dangerous. I'm glad these cans are probably quite expensive because of the tax that would be whacked on them, because if you'd buy a full pack of that, you'd be really tempted to have a second one.
00:13:06
Speaker
So, bite and singles people, or bite and fours if you have a level of self-control. That's a
Comedy as a Palate Cleanser
00:13:14
Speaker
solid four, seven, five for me. That's fantastic. Really enjoyed that. Is it 65 IBU though? Because that's why it's claimed to be on untapped. Well, this says 45. The actual can says 45. Maybe the original one, because I'm sure they've done many releases of it. So maybe the original version was an album.
00:13:34
Speaker
True. Yeah. It has, it has a real solid bitterness to it, but it's real, it's real back palette sort of stuff. So, very nice. Very yummy. Cool. Very, very good. Palette cleanses people. These are not palette cleanses. These are palette destroyers. Palette finishers. Get over here.
00:13:58
Speaker
You've already defined why we're doing this. Yeah. Yeah. It's an extension of last episode where we talked about guilty pleasures and then ended up here with palette cleanses. That's kind of where the thought pattern came from anyway. Well, it's also Tom was hammering Spider-Man 3 and Spider-Man 3. Spider-Man 2 for a while and didn't you say something in the chat that you needed something else to do after?
00:14:27
Speaker
Oh, no, it was after Skyrim. I had a cleanser after Skyrim. You actually said that you were going to play the Nintendo Switch, which I didn't, because I was going to dive into Breath of the Wild. And that's not the game you go to after Skyrim. No, you need a power cleanser in between. And I imagine Pete's going to need one after Baldur's Gate as well.
00:14:49
Speaker
I'm almost finished and I'm already planning my next run through, to be honest. Oh, good god, you're a fucking glotton. Ah, it's just that good a game. It really is that good a game. I want to go play with the other classes. Anyway. So how are we going to do this, gentlemen? What do you want to start with? You've all written down a bunch of TV shows. Should we start with that? Let's start with TV. There's some interesting patterns here too. Yes.
00:15:13
Speaker
Who's starting? Do you want me to kick us off? Dan can kick us off. I can kick you off. So I've got three. So I've got the one I like to put on to.
00:15:22
Speaker
basically fall asleep to if I've run my brain ragged at work or like watching other things that's, it's kind of what I put on in the background. And I guess I've started it from, oh, I started from the start, episode one, season one, and then it just rolls through until I wake up and then, and then it'll get put on from episode one, season one again, just to kind of reset my brain. And that's Rick and Morty.
00:15:47
Speaker
It's just, it's such an easy consumed because it's nonsensical. There's no, I mean, there is some through lines in the seasons and across seasons and things like that, but it's always so nonsensical that it just, it's just one of those things that is just, it's, it's basically like alt control delete for me. It's just a, it's a hard reset of just everything.
00:16:12
Speaker
Just just shut down the brain. Watch someone be an absolute idiot for a little while and fall asleep to and you're going again next fall asleep to Rick and Morty. You are a truly beast. You are a man. How could you fall this laser blast screaming and fucking alien beasts every other episode like.
00:16:38
Speaker
I don't know. There's something about just the way that it's like, and you got to think the voice, because it's voiced by so few people. Yeah. It just, it just runs into one. Yeah, exactly. It kind of has this almost monotone white noise to it for me. Oh, no. No. Whole opposite.
00:17:00
Speaker
I think it's the tonality of each of their voices that sets me off. I could not fall asleep to fucking Morty going, oh, geez, Rick. Oh man. Oh, I just, I shit myself. Oh God. I don't know. It's just one of those things. One of those things. It's, um, yeah, always edited. There's so many of them too. They're 20 minutes long, 25 minutes long. I agree with you as it's a perfect like reset thing. I just wouldn't fall asleep to it because
00:17:28
Speaker
I value the hours I am unconscious. I don't mean nighttime fall asleep. I mean like a Sunday afternoon nap fall asleep. Right. Okay. That changes the whole dynamic, right? No, no, no, no. Not evening sleep. No, no, no, no, no. I wouldn't do that. I probably have done that, but I was going to say I've probably passed out in front of my cartoons on my list. Oh, absolutely. Yeah. No, I agree. It's just one of those films because it shows that it's it's
00:17:58
Speaker
Like you said, it's nonsensical. It's, it's so dumb and outlandish that it's like, nothing matters anymore. Cause I'm watching Rick and Morty. Yeah. Yeah. That's exactly it. Um, my next one is Alton carbon. Um, it's, it's, it's a big one for me for a reset because it's so different because it's in that cycle cyberpunk futuristic world, but so well done. Yeah. Really well written. And really what they're season one I'm talking about really well acted and
00:18:27
Speaker
The fact is that there's only one good season. There's only two seasons. Actually, has it been completely deleted from Netflix now? Or is it still there? I hope it's still there. I don't know. It's probably still there. I know they canceled it. I don't know whether they were actually... Did they do it? They did an animated version though. Yeah, they did.
00:18:47
Speaker
I'm still on Netflix, man. Okay, good. Um, cause I'm going to go back in and watch season one again. And why I use it as a palette cleanser is because you can watch it as a single season. There is obviously multiple books and it does roll on, but the, the, because of the way that Takeshi
00:19:08
Speaker
actually has to have his deck and his brain switched out between other people. They round off season one so well, even though they were already going to do season two, the story, the story ends like Takeshi's story is not, uh, finished, but it, it just, it finishes the characters, the other characters in the story, uh, before it flows onto season two, which is set on a completely different planet.
00:19:34
Speaker
Yeah like why is away from the from the the i think the first one set on earth yeah it is yeah and so they they ran that story out of the the the police woman the the guy that owns the body that she's in for the whole season.
00:19:53
Speaker
is, is unlocked and gets his body back. And we don't see that, but it's, it's hinted to that's how it's going to play out. And, and it's just, it's just a good round out and you know, there's only one season, but for that, for those people, for that story. So you're not having to go on and complete the story in eight more seasons and kind of things.
00:20:16
Speaker
So I love that. And my other one is Utopia. I don't know if you guys have ever watched Utopia. Is that the Australian government? It's fucking hilarious. It's excellent. It's the full frontal crew. Like that's, that's, yeah, it's probably good. The working, the working dog, uh, the working dog production crew, uh, it's an Australian TV. So, uh, Rob, I can never get his last name right. Stitch, Stitch.
00:20:42
Speaker
Citch, something like that. Citch. Rob Citch. I'm almost at a Citch. Yeah. Heads up a government, a government employed contractor, a contractor company that gets, sets up the, it's a far school shit-piss take of how the Australian government works and how they get well.
00:21:05
Speaker
Close to reality. The National Building Authority, a newly created government organization responsible for overseeing major infrastructure projects. Yes. So every episode, there's always an infrastructure program that they have to run through their corporate
00:21:23
Speaker
They're corporate machine. The bureaucracy to get going. And it's Rob Seach always plays that absolutely exacerbated CEO or project head. He plays it so well, just trying to wrangle all the loose cannons in his office. And just try and get anything done. Anything at all.
00:21:47
Speaker
Yeah, anything done. And just the, I mean, they, they roll into it so well. Even episode one is like talking about the logo change of the company. And it's an entire 20 minutes talking about the logo change. And there's one, which unfortunately is not that far from reality.
00:22:04
Speaker
It is, and we've all dealt with it in our jobs and it's, like we said, it is, but it isn't a piece of how things actually play out. It's a slightly exaggerated version of real life. It's only slightly larger than life though.
00:22:23
Speaker
Yeah. I mean, they roll into an episode for further on where there's a problem with the printer and it's the whole, the whole episode is about him just trying to get a document from the printer. Like everybody's pulling other people's pages from the printer. And I mean, it sounds, when you explain it like that, so mundane, but the, it's so well written by the working dog production people that it's just a, it's fantastic.
00:22:49
Speaker
Well, it's like the old joke that we're not sure who they were raging against, but Rage Against the Machine was definitely based around a printer. It's the worst base of office technology that we know. Yeah. Yeah. And I mean, another episode, they bring a, I can't even think of the terminology, but he comes in and he's meant to
00:23:10
Speaker
do the team bonding and the corporate... Oh, like a HR manager or something? Oh, it's not an HR manager. He's an American comedian that lives in Australia and I can never remember his name, but...
00:23:24
Speaker
I've seen him on a lot of things. He used to do all the working dogs productions. He used to go on the panel a lot and do the good news week debates and things like that. He was really good. He's got a black guy with long dreadlocks and American guys. He's super funny, but he comes in and does all these wellness things with all the staff members and runs them through team bonding and everything like that.
00:23:49
Speaker
and Rob's just trying to get the job done. He doesn't want to take part and he's spending the minimum amount of time he has to in these group team bonding meetings and he's like, I've got to go. I've actually got jobs to go and do. A lot of people that are
00:24:11
Speaker
in those types of jobs have come out and said, we can't watch it. It's too close to what actually happens. And I only do deal with that sort of bureaucracy on a periphery. So it's for me, I can see those things happening, but I don't have to be part of it. So I find it fucking hilarious to watch it and go, yeah, you know what? I've actually seen that happen. So in an office corporate settings. So they dropped a new season this year.
00:24:41
Speaker
Oh, they did, though. They're still going. Yeah. So, well, so they're up to five seasons, but it was 2014, 2015, 2017, 2019, and then this year. Yeah. There's a big gap between seasons. But, you know, very, very funny. And they make some real digs at the Australian government and what's been happening and real digs at
00:25:04
Speaker
Oh and politicians making decisions about shit that they've got no fucking clue about and then trying to jam it down infrastructure project managers throats. Yeah so the very fast train was like the third episode and it was like we've got hundreds of studies that show that it's commercially completely not viable and the ministers aid that keeps popping in the lady keeps saying,
00:25:27
Speaker
Yeah but they've decided that it's like that this is the platform they're running on so this needs to get done he's like but it's not feasible. She's like you know i get it but this is the platform that the minister's gonna run on and would really like this to happen.
00:25:41
Speaker
It's just like heads buried in fucking sand. Yeah. It's fantastic. And like the environmental impact talking about a certain plant that grows in one area. Yeah. It's like the unique species. Yeah. One patch of grass that only grows in the area that they want to build on. Yeah. It's a, it's good. And it's, and it's so unlike everything else. It's, it's, I guess it's very much like the American and British versions of the office.
00:26:11
Speaker
But even parks and recreation, it's very similar to as well. I've never watched parks and recs.
00:26:17
Speaker
I mean, it's different in terms of the situational comedy element and the drama comedy. But it doesn't have that Australian flavour to it. There's something that those TV shows like, because the British office is unbearably awkward. Like, I guess in those situations where it's like, as a viewer, you are so tensely uncomfortable watching it. You feel your body folding on itself because even though you know it's fake, you know it's fake as fuck. You just can't say it like you think about this situation. I can't rewatch it.
00:26:46
Speaker
I laughed my ass off throughout it, like I've watched all of the original Ricky Gervais office, laughed my ass off all the way through, tried to rewatch it from scratch several years later, cannot do it. So we used to have a, we used to call it running the gauntlet where you sit down and watch the entire office season one and two in one hit and just absorb all the awkwardness. It used to be a thing that a challenge that our friends would do. Bring the guitar to the meeting. Yeah.
00:27:10
Speaker
But then you go to the US office and it's just like, it's the outlandish awkwardness of it. And it's just like, this is so far fetched, but then it's nothing like that Australian flavor. It's just, it's the, it's the too true down to worthness of like, you're just, you're just carving that bone or that ham. You are just scraping it and you know that someone out there is like, fuck that's me. But they get away with it because it's, it's never, never too close to home, but it's, it's close enough. Yeah.
00:27:40
Speaker
We should move on. Tom, what are your public cleansing TV shows? I don't really have many public cleansing TV shows. I rarely go back to a TV show, but through my very happy home life, I am forced to watch several TV shows on repeat, whether I like to or not. If I could pick one TV show, I did pick one that I would go back and watch as a power cleanser. It's always a David Attenborough documentary.
00:28:06
Speaker
It's life on our planet, Earth, Big Blue Planet, any of those. I would sit down there and just be like, holy shit, we're killing the killing the planet we stand on, but crap, it's fucking beautiful. But then you've already mentioned several of them. So Emma has a running list of shows that we, they just live in the background. So while she's doing work, she's watched them so many times, she doesn't even have to watch them.
00:28:30
Speaker
And I always come in halfway through them and I'll give you as scrubs parks and rec, uh, us office. And there's several more, the Witcher has actually become part of it. Um, she fell in love with, uh, the first, first season of that and they got, got thrown into it. Um, and then another one it's called psych, which is a psychic detective. It's just a slight stick comedy show, but yeah, so now it's kind of the thing that like.
00:28:57
Speaker
My whole family, my siblings are all obsessed with the US office. I never got into it when it first came out, never watched it. And it was a point of difference in a lot of family conversations that I didn't get the references they're making about Kevin or the rest of the crew or Dwight and them. But now I've seen enough through passing.
00:29:16
Speaker
I can't sit down and watch these shows season to season because it gets halfway through and it's like. Oh that's where I left for work that day and then you watch the other half of the season so now I basically know what happens because I've caught up when I walk back home and you're still watching that same show. But it's you know 17 episodes later. All right that's what's up that's what we're up to now. These these shows for me they're the pallet ones because I'm constantly just walking through them. Emma is currently watching scrubs for about the hundred millionth time.
00:29:45
Speaker
She just like she stops and goes, no, no, you need to watch this bit. This is one of my favorite quotes. I'm like, you say that every episode. This is friends or Seinfeld for a lot of people. Yeah. 100%. Just constantly rerunning them.
00:30:01
Speaker
Yeah, I can't really do that. I think the only show I've probably gone back and actively rewatched most of was Clone Wars. Because I watched it all as it came out, but then it was like we had that delay with the last season and I was like, I want to watch it all leading up to the last season and then went into Bad Batch.
00:30:20
Speaker
Yeah, maybe I did a rewatch of Mandalorian before one of the seasons and I've done that a couple of times, but yeah, I struggled to rewatch a TV show if I've seen it. Except for something like Rick and Morty, where it's like, I can put this on because it was done. Like, I can watch the Council of Rick episode again. Yeah. Yeah. And you always pick up little bits too. With shows like that. Yeah. So I think I'm on the outlaw on this one. I don't have a
00:30:47
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a particular show I would go to, but there are certain ones like, there's a couple of like, um, uh, the planet earth episodes where it's just like, Oh, if I had a gummy right now, I'd be set. I've got a 4k TV, put that on, just lay back and watch Wales breach. Fuck yeah. I mean, not that kind of breaching, you fuck. Not that type of gummy.
00:31:23
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Yeah, I'm going to drag this along. I'm the complete opposite. I've got shit loads. But they're all, they're all basically the same show. Just, well, they're all different shows, but they're the same thing. They're all irreverent comedy like Rick and Morty. So my list had, and I'm not going to sit there and talk about each of them individually, but Futurama, Family Guy, Rickelberry, Lower Decks.
00:31:40
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Oh dear. No, that type of thing.
00:31:47
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And whilst it's live action, the Allville kind of fits into the same category. They're all over the top, ridiculous humor. They're the sorts of shows. I mean, Futurama, I've been watching since I was a teenager. So they're all practically reruns, although they are now doing new episodes, which is fucking sick. But it's also kind of cool to watch those where you see the animation evolve. Oh yeah. They're like that through an animated series where it's like, go back to old Simpsons episodes and you're like, oh, they couldn't draw back then.
00:32:14
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Yeah, you skip the dodgy season or two where they lost their drawer and had to find another one and the guy filled in for a while and was like...
00:32:22
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going on here, guys. Yeah, so Futurama doesn't suffer from that. But like Futurama and Family Guy, they're kind of very, very similar. Brickleberry kind of takes it up a notch in terms of over the top ridiculousness. Lower Decks is good. And yeah, Orville. So they're the sorts of things that I can put in the background. They're short episodes. They're 25 minutes long. I'll watch one while I'm eating dinner or something before going back to whatever else I was doing for the night.
00:32:46
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Um, or, you know, I've probably passed out after drinking way too much on the couch with each of those playing on repeat or loop. So, um, house MD, I keep going back to rewatch that. I don't know why. I just love that series. Just fine. Yeah. I just find, uh, uh, Hugh Laurie to be one of the better actors on, on TV in that era. And it wasn't too far off the act of the writer's strike last time either. I think from memory.
00:33:14
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Was around that time. More recently, there's an Apple TV and this is way off kilter for me, which is why I call it a palate cleanser. Because this is the shit that I watch in between gobbling up a season of Game of Thrones or all that type of show where it's all pretty heavy.
00:33:34
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fantasy, heavy science fiction. At the moment I'm blitzing through the final four seasons of Walking Dead. And so you can watch three or four episodes in a row and then you really need something just to break up the dark, depressing monotony of it all. And even just the fucking palette. It's something that moves faster than like five minutes every year. Faster than a Shambler. Yeah, like a Shambler zombie. Yeah.
00:33:59
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But Morning Wars is very different. Morning Wars is a pure drama. It's a recent American drama. It's meant to be excellent as well. It is. It is fucking excellent.
00:34:12
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It started off with kind of covering the Me Too movement from a unique angle where they do, they also represent the perpetrator's perspective in a quite a, like it's a well-written manner of portraying his perspective on the situation. And that was Steve Carell playing him and he plays a fucking serious character very, very well too, surprisingly well.
00:34:37
Speaker
The jennifer aniston steve krell season one and race with a spoon and it's just continue to be a really interesting. I take season season two is just finished and it really covered. I like tech and billionaires buying legacy media companies and dismantling them and the rise of. You know opportunistic journalism and instagram style journalists essentially social media killing legacy media.
00:35:06
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It's been a really interesting kind of take on it. And then I always watch a bunch of reality TV. So I fortunately find a relatively new one that Dan mentioned on the podcast about two years ago that I've been watching ever since. But Ink Masters I've been watching since I finished the original LA Ink. And then there was the other one where Kat Von D
00:35:31
Speaker
There was an offshoot from Miami, sorry, it was Miami, Inc. And then Kat Von D was LA, Inc. That's right. Um, was the offshoot. And then alone, which was a random one that just popped up a few years ago. And it was like, holy fuck, this is good. And then after the fourth season, it's like, they're all the same. Like pretty much ever started watching that. And I remember sitting down watching like the first like season that she watched. And I was just like,
00:35:55
Speaker
fuck these wankers and just walk down. The first three or four episodes from each season are actually really interesting because that's where they're in survival mode and they have to really be quite, quite innovative. And then after that, the rest of the season, like there's usually another five or six episodes where it's just
00:36:12
Speaker
Now I'm bored and either I'm going to starve or go crazy from loneliness and that's how I'm tapping out. It's no longer a survival show. It's a psychological survival show. Yeah, right. Anyway, so that's it for my TV series. I do have a mini series, but I put that kind of in movies because it's a little bit more of a movie and there's one more that I remembered and then forgot again. So we'll talk, we'll come back.
00:36:34
Speaker
I was going to say the only other one I had was the, uh, was my Kasha. I love my Ross Valley restores fucking get into it. You haven't your dog do it. And I think one honorable mention too, needs to be blackboard. Oh yeah. Yeah. It was, um, uh, Dylan Moran. Yeah. Bill Bailey. Yeah. It's a, it's a great, like you're eating scrambled eggs with a comb out of a shoe.
00:37:02
Speaker
You can just watch one episode because it's like Rick and Morty as well. It's so nonsensical. It's just, you can just have it all. And not have any fucking idea what goes on for the entire 25 minutes that it's on.
00:37:23
Speaker
Oh, I'm going to get myself in trouble. Yeah. He's Irish. He's Irish. Sorry, Irish. I meant, yeah. But Bill Bailey's from the high country because he's all up there and oh, yeah. He sounds like Pacman. He's probably Welsh. Um, anyway. Yeah, no, that's a, that's a great honorable mention, Dan. I've forgotten about that show. Yeah. There was another one that I keep rewatching, but I can't fucking remember. Anyway, do you want to go back to the top with movies?
00:37:48
Speaker
Movies? Movies? I'll run through mine quick. That's what I meant by back to the top. Back to the top? Yep. Empire Strikes Back. Back to the future. No, not in there. Okay, sorry. Empire Strikes Back. If I have to watch a Star Wars movie, it's either. Oh, it's gotta be Empire. Empire or Revenge of the Sith or Rogue One. In that order too. It'll go. Okay. Yeah, I can see that. Always Phantom Menace, you fool.
00:38:20
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The greatest of the entire side. I will die on that hill with my double-weighted lightsaber and my pod racer by my side. Oh, my chest. Actually, my favorite film is The New Hope. Always has been.
00:38:36
Speaker
There was, there was, I bombarded you guys with Star Wars memes the other day. So I left this one out, but it was Ahsoka saying to Darth Maul, uh, why do you, why do you want Anakin? Why do you want to know where Anakin is? And Darth Maul says, I almost ran over him as a child. I want to apologize. I thought that was fucking great. I should have, but there was, there was so many Star Wars memes. I loved the meme. I loved the meme where, um, Pat made fallen out.
00:39:08
Speaker
We've got to go back. He's like, don't bother. He's like, why not? She's covered in sand. The other version of that is, what did I teach you, Anakin? We have the high ground. We have the high ground. It's one of those three Star Wars movies. It usually goes in that order. If I've watched Empire, I'll go to Revenge of the Sith. I've watched Revenge of the Sith. I've watched Rogue One.
00:39:31
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and then it'll roll back. And New Hope gets thrown in probably once or twice a year and Return of the Jedi gets thrown in every now and then too. They're the ones I roll through for the Star Wars side. And then the next two are same-same but not the John Wick and Dredd.
00:39:50
Speaker
just excellent, mindless action movies that you just got to love the main character. There's just so much charisma in Keanu and, God, what's his name? Carl Urban. Carl Urban with so little dialogue from either of them for two hours. Some grunting.
00:40:11
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Yeah. And it's just, they're just great. They're just mindless movies. And I sit there and watch it start to finish. Like there's no napping, there's no, there's no going off and doing things. If they're, if they're on, they're on and they're, and they're sat through. So I just love that as a, once again, just, just brain reset. Yeah. Yeah. Watch too much of one thing or you need to go back to something that's just, you know what? I liked it when there was gratuitous violence in movies.
00:40:40
Speaker
Yes. Hmm. Absolutely loved it. Um, whereas, uh, same original, the original star was a new hope. Definitely. I will, I will watch a new hope till the cows come home purely because it's one of those ones that it's one of those stories. Well, I know it goes into a trilogy, but it's like, they didn't at the time. So it is kind of, it's an open closed story. Sure. They added stuff on to go into empire and empire is.
00:41:03
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Let me be honest, Empire is a better film, from like a filmmaker perspective and themes and stuff. But in terms of an open closed film, that's why I've always liked New Hope. I too often, too often as every neighbour I've ever had will tell me, will come home at
00:41:21
Speaker
12 30, one o'clock in the morning and put on the pod race from a Phantom. I, I know, I know I'm guilty of it. And, but I won't stop. I refuse to stop and I will continue doing it to the day I die. Um, so yeah, those, those are the Star Wars, like the, the original, the original trilogy, obviously before they're always, they're just, it's like coming home. It's just, it's gone. It's gone back to moms and sitting on the couch. It's like, here we go. We're happy.
00:41:45
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I don't do that with Lord of the Rings. I'm sure people probably expect me to say the Lord of the Rings trilogy, but that's a once a year now kind of sacred time. We sit down and we do it all in one. Actually, I've got a big complaint. Emma and I recently re-watched the Lord of the Rings trilogy in the Ultra HD Blu-rays I've got.
00:42:11
Speaker
The PS5 fucked us over. It couldn't keep up with the disc. It kept skipping scenes. It infuriated me to no end. The disc is perfect. I looked it up on forums. I went down every rabbit hole I could. People have been complaining about it since the PS5 launched that I just never experienced it before. I wonder what it is.
00:42:32
Speaker
I think it's too many audio tracks jammed into the I think it's actually just the app that they've installed on the PlayStation for watching movies. It's just not really poor. It's just really poor really shit and they've never updated it. But I can see key things. Missed the council of Iran. It skipped the entire council of Iran, which is one of my favorite scenes.
00:42:54
Speaker
I YouTubed it because I know exactly where to find that scene in the extended HD, but it's like, it's kind of, you know, we're, we're, we're getting up and like, I know the disc is coming to an end. I'm just like.
00:43:04
Speaker
But when a $30 Sony Blu-ray player can not have this issue, how the fuck does a $700, $800 state-of-the-art game system fucker? Yeah. Oh, I know. I'm, I'm, I was fucking outraged, but the only, the only disc actually that didn't skip was the second disc of the two towers. So I did get the entire Battle of Helms D, which is, let's be honest, it's cinematic brilliance. Um, but yeah, no, they're once, they're once a year thing now. It's, it's, it's almost like a religious holiday.
00:43:34
Speaker
I turn my phone off. I block all outside. I get some nice beers for it. And, you know, we make a whole bunch of stove popcorn and then we just go to town. I actually made a lamb roast this year. So, you know, we could have, we should have had roast pork, but we could have had salted pork, but no, no, we had lamb roast instead. A weird film that I always go back to is The Losers.
00:43:57
Speaker
That comic book film with Chris Evans and Jeffrey Dean Morgan and Idris Elba. It's just fun. It's just really fucking fun. You're just Chris Evans in the elevator with the fucking headphones on, dancing away. I mean, yeah, I've based my entire life on that. It's not ringing any bells for me. I don't know that I've ever seen it.
00:44:18
Speaker
Oh, treat yourself. It's so good. It's a, it's a dark horse comic. Yeah. I don't think I've ever seen it. Oh, Pete, you are in for an absolute treat. That's fantastic. Yeah. Um, I, I go back to that film like more often than not. It's, it's unhealthy. How often I go back to that film for, I've never read the comic only ever seen the film, but it's just, it's dumb fun and it's comic book. It's really good. My with my head watching a Jeffrey Dean Morgan as a character that's not Negan right at the moment.
00:44:47
Speaker
Some it would if you. It's the years ago and before Chris Evans was Captain America. So like that. It's right between Lee. It's right between his human torch and his Captain America face. Yeah. So he's still a bit too human tauty. Yeah. He's not, but he's not, he's not as skinny as he was in human thoughts, but he's not, he's not Steve Rogers. Yeah.
00:45:10
Speaker
And so we sold Ana. And so we sold Ana, isn't it? Yeah, yeah. And then Pixar films. You get me some of the OG Pixar films, put a Toy Story and Monsters Inc. Oh, Monsters Inc theme. That used to be my alarm clock. I'd wake up to that every morning. Great. I reckon that'd be a pretty great 420 film. Oh, that's not the weed strain you got. It might actually freak you out.
00:45:34
Speaker
But yeah, yeah. Toy Story 1, Toy Story 2, the original Cars, Bugs Life. Still never seen Cars. Yeah. Any of them just, yep. I love a Pixar film. I love a Pixar film. Probably also closely tied with some of the original Despicable Me films. And now Mario Brothers, just a really fun, bright animated film. Put that on, zone out, have a beer, just be like, you know what? My life's shit, but you know what? There's bright colours on the TV, so everything's okay.
00:46:05
Speaker
And then they, at Pixar, do the intensely emotional like, like four fifths of the way through the movie. They, and they really just rip out your heartstrings and go, fuck, why did I watch a Pixar film again? Now depressing. I'm like, oh, it hits you from the very beginning. Yeah, we don't talk about it. I'm stricken from the record.
00:46:28
Speaker
I'm crying already. You just mentioned the film and I'm already an emotional wreck. But that's me. That's the films that I go to. Nice. What about you, Peter? So my first one's a miniseries. And I've said this to you guys not too long ago, actually, because I did my annual rewatch, Band of Brothers. I rewatched that. Did you see the trailer for the new one? Well, not the new one. Spin off.
00:46:54
Speaker
The Air Force one they're doing, which is like the... I didn't know they were. I'll send it to you later. Semi's not semi anymore. Yeah, it's Apple TV and it's meant to be like a band of brothers like... I've got to say, mate, and I've said this before on the podcast, I'm sure there's content that I would not connect with, but I've never watched anything made by Apple TV that I haven't found amazing.
00:47:19
Speaker
I'm now watching for mankind, which is like was released with Apple TV like four or five years ago. It was one of their opening series along with seeing a couple of other things. It was very little content when it first came out. Yeah. And for mankind tells an alternate history, which you were kind of talking about with the man in high castle last episode where
00:47:39
Speaker
Russians beat the Americans to the moon and then they kind of fast-forwarded. But they tell the original, they tell a reworked version of the actual history of NASA trying to get to the moon before the Russkies.
00:47:52
Speaker
And so they have the whole head of NASA, I can't remember his name, Von Bern, turns out to be a full blown Nazi sympathizer who was friends with Hitler. Like we're not just talking Nazi sympathizer, we're talking like in photos with Hitler. And that's based on reality. And then they fast forward all the way through and Joel Kinnaman stars in it, which is what originally attracted me to read, to recently start watching it.
00:48:17
Speaker
But they kind of each season skip forward in time, so I think the current season's the last one and they're talking about going to Mars. I'm not up to it, so I can't ruin it. Anyway, Band of Brothers, love it. Just can't get enough of it. I didn't really connect with Band of Brothers Pacific nearly as much. I think because the Pacific campaign was a different kind of war.
00:48:39
Speaker
I don't know why, and I'm going to sound, I probably sound terrible saying this, but there's a kind of a romanticness to the whole French invasion because we grew up with Saving Private Ryan and those, and, and Medal of Honor games, and there's a lot of- But there's a lot of personal history for us in that era of war.
00:48:59
Speaker
It's also the more discussed war when you do a history class. They always start with the European theater of war and then eventually they go, oh, by the way, some shit happened in the Pacific. Well, I mean, timeline wise, you know, the Pacific campaign started pretty late in the overall war, right? I mean, America didn't want to get involved until Pearl Harbor. So I just I just found Pacific probably is a realistic representation of the Pacific theater. But like Thin Red Line, it's more a psychological warfare campaign than it is
00:49:28
Speaker
physical warfare in the romantic French Normandy setting that you get from Banner Brothers.
00:49:41
Speaker
Nothing beats Battlefield Vietnam, where you used to be able to pick your mates up in the helicopter. The Black Hawk. The Hueys, I think. Yeah, the Hueys. But you could then blast the stereo out as everyone jumped out. So you can get the call of the Valkyries playing while you're coming through. Oh, it's a fortunate sun every time. Don't be getting me wrong. But we used to call it when we would play land parties. We'd be like, can I just get a pick up in the mum bus? Thanks. So like the Turago.
00:50:13
Speaker
Other movies, so Spaceballs, all the stuff that I grew up with, all the comedies that I grew up with. So, Spaceballs, Monty Python and the Holy Grail. There's probably Men in Tights buried in there somewhere in terms of rewatches. And then the Cornetto trilogy, but mostly Shaun of the Dead. But all three of those films are great. I love Shaun of the Dead, but my one out of the three is Hot Fuzz. Oh, absolutely Hot Fuzz. I knew you guys were going to say that. Emma actually just got a Hot Fuzz tattoo.
00:50:38
Speaker
Oh, yeah. Very obscure one, but she got a little, a little posted stamped with raspberries in it. And it's like, it's a direct requirement from it was, well, I don't want to set the apple cart. Oh yes. Cause we all sell apples around here. And raspberries.
00:50:57
Speaker
It's Emma's favorite quote from the entire film. And she now has a tattooed on her arm, which I think is just perfect. Yeah, chef's kiss. Good. That's it for me for movies. Yep. I got through those pretty quick, actually. I thought that was going to drag on. No, that was good. I mean, there's a bunch of others, like Terminator, Terminator 1 and 2. If I'm going back to action, like you were talking about before, Dan, where it's just mindless violence. Oh, there's so many we've left off that list that you'll just see. Oh, yeah, fucking it. Remember when you used to be on Channel 9 and you'd be like, what's the Channel 9 Saturday movie? And you'd be like, oh, fuck yeah, I'm rewatching this. Yeah, yeah, it's The Siege.
00:51:26
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Con Air. Original Jesse Park. I love going back and watch the original Jesse Park. That's always fun. Yeah, fuck yeah. And it still stands up. That's the best part about the JP movie.
00:51:36
Speaker
Anyway, and I think that's everything that like, we're trying to talk about here is this, that all those ones, they, they obviously have nostalgic value to us for us as well, but it's such a, they're all such just a, a brain reset because you will go, Oh yeah, Jurassic parks on. I'm just going to put it on in the background. And then you sit there for two hours and you watch the whole fucking thing. And it's just like, you are, are you doing the dad watch where it's like, you start like behind the couch and just like arms folded and then you suddenly
00:52:05
Speaker
I'm over here, it's like, oh yeah, that's an interesting scene. Then suddenly you're on the couch going, oh yeah, this is, yeah. Yeah, I do because you like, I'll be doing like the washing up or something. And then you'll hear something like, oh, this is a good, I'll be standing behind the couch, like drying something while it's on. And then I'll eventually just like put it down and then sit. And then after the movie, I'm like, fuck, I still got to do the rest of the washing.
00:52:33
Speaker
I start again. But yeah. At least for that two hour period, you've been transported back to a time in your memory where you're a high school kid and you didn't have the stress and drama of fucking bills and work and yeah. And that's it. And I think that's what's so good about the cleansers and the palette research and just everything is just you just forget about everything else. And then you just you roll to whether it's nostalgia or whether it's just a modern, a new movie that's just fucking cool.
00:53:03
Speaker
It's like, it's just, it just, it absorbs you in and you sit there and you forget about the world for however long. I'm going to go and pay so somebody else can do their games first. I'll start with the games because mine's broad. I don't, I said to the guys before, I don't think we really have specific games anymore because we're just too busy or, you know, we're enveloping other media because there's so much of it now, but, um,
00:53:32
Speaker
If, if I need a palette, so my perfect example is after Skyrim, I had the best time. I loved my entire Skyrim journey and it was fantastic. Everything I went through, but then I was like, Oh yeah, I'll play some switch or I'll finally get into another game. And I was like, Oh, I can't do it yet. I need something completely mindless, nonverbal and, and a little bit exciting. And for me, that's arcade races.
00:53:58
Speaker
I jumped straight back into an arcade bracelet. So like some old needs. No, no, like any more realistic. So I really liked like the need for speeds. My go-to used to be the burnout series because they had the, um, I had the mode, the crash mode where it was cause as much damage as you can with one car crash, which for me is just, you know, that's, that's like demolition Derby back in the real old days.
00:54:22
Speaker
Well, the most recent one was Wreckfest, which was a demolition derby game. And it was just like, post time. Yeah. So, so story heavy. And then it's like, Hey, can you drive this car as fast as you can around in a circle and hit as many things as you can? I was like, yes, sorry.
00:54:37
Speaker
Well, the original demo Derby was, I think all the cars were facing inwards in a big round field. Yeah. And you all had to drive directly to the center and you got like repair points for the damage that you did. It was around the same time as the original Grand Theft Auto from memory.
00:54:54
Speaker
So, yeah. So this, like, they had a mode like that where it was like, it was literally just a circle and everyone sat on the outside and you drove in. So if you were strategic, you wouldn't accelerate as soon as everyone else did. You go, hang on a second. Yeah. And then you'd go in and clean some people. But arcade races after a big story game, like, uh, it's either arcade races or a Lego game. They're, they're my gaming palette cleansers. Cause they're just most of the Lego games are nonverbal up until the ones where they started using quotes from the films.
00:55:24
Speaker
from memory was the either Jurassic Park or the first Marvel one. They started actually using quotes instead of like just like noises or like the original Lego stars where it was all mime and trying to like
00:55:41
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Remember distinctly it's beta doing the I am your father and he points to a photo of Anakin and Padme and Padme is pregnant in Lego form and he points to the baby bump and then points to Luke. And it's like, that's meant to be the, I am your father. And it's like, that is dumb as shit.
00:55:59
Speaker
So it's like games like that where it's just like you know you you don't really have to think it's not complex gameplay it's either drive around in circle and hit everything as fast as you can or you know you use stupid power ups like mario kart where you throw green shells at people or it's lego game where it's just. Literally punch everything or whatever power you have and then collect the studs and then keep going through and you play like a mini story and it's like yes.
00:56:26
Speaker
Right. It's the same thing. It's bright, colorful, fun. That's kind of reset. Yeah. There, they're my two gaming genres that I will always use as a as a power cleanse.
00:56:36
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Yeah, nice. Damn. Pete, no, you go. Oh, have you got anything on there? I do. Oh yeah. Mine kind of ties into yours. So yeah, you go. Yeah. So mine's Red Dead Redemption 2 because it's a game that I've just, I will eventually get the Platinum 4, but I've never felt compelled to race for it and to really chase it, to be honest. And if I never get it, I'd be quite, still be quite happy. Cause it's a game that I just really enjoy slow pacing.
00:57:04
Speaker
I just just wandering around town, just doing stuff, walk into a store and browse and, you know, go and sit in the fucking saloon and listen to the stories and the, you know, the cobblestones with the horse hooves on cobblestones in the main cities. Like, yeah, there's just so much atmosphere to that game that you can just let it wash past you.
00:57:27
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To be honest, it keeps reminding me I still intend at some point, if I ever find the time, to do a survival mode run of...
00:57:43
Speaker
Fucking behind me. What's the, what's the- Oh, day's gone. Thank you. Day's gone. For the same reason why, like survival mode is going to be hardcore because there's no, there's no map. There's no mini map. There's no compass. You have to memorize where you're going. So, and, and because you're in the most difficult setting in terms of the, the combat difficulty, you have to take it really slowly and listen.
00:58:06
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to the environment to get hints that there are zombies approaching that you need to be careful about. So I, I kind of think that game, whilst it will probably have a couple of jump scares at times or some, a couple of anxiety, anxious moments, I think it will be quite absorbing in the same kind of way as RDR and in a really weird tangent way. That zombie cave near the lake. Fuck that. Fuck that. Fuck that royally. Or the army underpass. Fucked me. Me in the forest. Cause that was one of the first hordes you faced.
00:58:37
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Um, not, but man, it felt good when you, when you finally got that, uh, light machine gun and you went into a hole and just slowly rowing back, feeling like Arnie in Terminator. And he's like, yeah, that's right. Suck on my character. That's it for me, Dan. Oh, it's a mine rolls straight into that. So mine, uh, is red dead redemption poker.
00:59:01
Speaker
And the old PlayStation poker mechanism started in the PS2 and never died. Well, before IDR2 came out, I would load up Red Dead 1 and wander into Amarillo and go and sit down at the poker table in the back house of the Amarillo Saloon. And I would just sit there and I would just play.
00:59:30
Speaker
Texas Hold'em War hours. And when RDR2 came out, I still play in Valentine, no matter where I'm up to in the game, I still go and walk those muddy streets of Valentine into the saloon. You guys never played Scotch at the bar and go and sit down and play poker at the window. Did you guys never play the Activision game Gun, did you?
00:59:53
Speaker
No, back on the PS2. I know the one you're talking about, but never play it. That was one of that was like the precursor to RDR. Um, but it had one of the better poker mechanics I've ever played. Cause it was that thing in like in the mid 2000s when Texas, like the, when the actual poker tournament
01:00:10
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The current real life poker tournament took hold. Yeah. And like ESPN started following and shit. Every game had a poker element to it. Um, but the, that, that gun game had one of the better ones I ever played. Cause the, they, they actually gave it like a really good poker AI for the time to play through it. But it's just, it was, it's the classic thing of walking into the, the whore house and just throwing down your cards to play some poker. Like.
01:00:35
Speaker
Yeah. It actually does look, I'm just looking at screenshots of the game gun now. If, fuck me, it looks like a predecessor to RDR. Man, it definitely, it definitely influenced a lot of Rockstar people. Yeah. It's one of the, it's one of the few games that I actively, actively want a remaster of that and, um, Law of the Rings, the third age. I have two nuts. I give both of them for one of each of the games. Yeah.
01:01:01
Speaker
Yeah, I love going to play poker in the old west. I mean, I've never, I've always said when I've, every time I go to Lodi and I'm like, right, I'll go and play the high stakes game in San Denis or in, um, uh, what was the one from the first game, uh, the city, uh, hell Dorado.
01:01:24
Speaker
Kansas City. Anyway, there was the high stakes, the higher level gambling games. The city evolves. In the highest cities. You dope. And I've always said like, I'll go and dress Arthur or John in a suit and like wander into the higher state game and go and play there. But I don't. I just like throwing on those blue jeans and the shirt and just wandering down the muddy streets of Dusty Street to Amarillo. All right, Bruce Epstein, calm down there.
01:01:53
Speaker
And my other my other one too is Super Mario games. Same as Tom. I like that style of games. It's usually Super Mario Bros. 3.
01:02:05
Speaker
Blackwater, yes. Blackwater, the last... It's going to bug me otherwise. Original Red Dead. It's usually Super Mario Bros. 3, but when I finally buy a Switch, I'm hoping it's going to be Super Mario 64 or Super Mario Odyssey. One of those, I think, will just be my interim. 64, Sunshine, Galaxy, Galaxy 2, then Odyssey, yeah.
01:02:33
Speaker
Well, I've played Galaxy. I have. I didn't enjoy it as much. It gave me a bit of Vertico running around those little spherical planets. You need 64 or Sunshine then, because they're still... Yeah, like 3D platforms. Yeah, flat planes. Yeah. So that's just, yeah, just enjoyable.
01:02:52
Speaker
You were really selling me on the idea of a Switch last episode when you were talking about it because I've never owned a Nintendo product. And so the only times I've ever touched a Nintendo like a Mario game has been at your place when we were kids or Chris's place or whoever. I think.
01:03:11
Speaker
My first girlfriend that I lived with her little brother had an N64 so which is where I played Goldeneye and I played maybe an hour total for the like the two years I lived there I got maybe an hour with Mario 64 because it was his console and
01:03:28
Speaker
The house was a little weird, the way that things ran there. So because it was in his console, even if he wasn't home, no one was able to touch it. It's just, yeah. So, um, 64 is one of those games that, and I know this is a little bit of rose colored glasses and nostalgia talking, but it is.
01:03:47
Speaker
A magical game. Like it is one of the, it was the first time that we had Mario in three days. I recently replayed it on a flight. I got 80 out of 120 stars in the one flight instead of sleeping. And it's still the greatest decision I've made in the last 10 years.
01:04:06
Speaker
It's just that I'll fight that till I die. Because Pete, you go into the castle from the hub world and you jump into paintings. And when you jump into a painting, it ripples like the Stargate ripples when you, when you jump in and it's just, it's just, it's just a wonderfully magical fun. That soundtrack also plays constantly in my head. The Amaya 64 soundtrack leaves me in my brain. Rent free.
01:04:34
Speaker
As the kids would say rent free it doesn't it pays rent because it's move some other things but yeah you know. It's amazing. Sorry tell I did I did on the original game boy in the game boy color so those are new products but I've never really had an opportunity to play a Mario game properly.
01:04:52
Speaker
And that's exactly what Mario games are. They're just, they're, they're pallet cleansers unless you're a crazy speed runner that learns like the timing that every little tiny pixel of every bullet passes on the pirate ship. Well, this is the thing that I'm not one of those people, but when I picked up Mario 64, I hadn't played it in
01:05:16
Speaker
Oh, 15, 20 years. And in a 16 hour flight, I had the muscle memory to remember every single fucking level and got 80 out of the 120 stars. Like that's not, that's not natural. Like it's not normal.
01:05:34
Speaker
Well sure I played it when I had a 64 I probably played it like three or four times but I haven't cracked open the 64 out of the box it's in in actually no I think it's at my dad's house so I like I haven't cracked that open in forever but to yes like let's say 16 years down the line open open it on a new new platform and go oh yeah I know exactly where I need to go and like do all of them and just like
01:06:01
Speaker
That's, that's, that's weird muscle memory. Like, yeah, but it's, it's the same thing. It was, it was, I was in the zone. Like I, I could have, I could have easily gone to sleep and had a lovely sleep on that flight, but I just couldn't stop. I was, I was back to being that, that young teenager kid. I need to go as for as long as I can before mum walks downstairs. So I need to get that game. Turn off the bloody idiot box. Go to bed.
01:06:30
Speaker
Yeah. I'm saying now, but you know, that's whatever. But yeah, no, it's that thing of like that. There are those weird muscle memories of like, you go back to a game and it's like, oh shit. I don't know. I remember how to play this now. Like, all right, we're on. Yeah, let's do it. We'll do it again. Yeah. Beautiful. Beautiful. Beautiful. I might have to pick up a switch at some point, but I'm going to wait until after Dan, because Dan's been talking about it for fucking years.
01:06:57
Speaker
And I would actually genuinely feel guilty if I went and bought one before. What difference does it make? Tis the season of the Blackest Friday. Would you want a deal? You're probably right, actually. It probably will go on sale. They were on sale three weeks ago when we last talked about it.
01:07:13
Speaker
I think David and Tom told you to have a look online, Dan. Yeah. Well, you ended up buying ourselves. Well, we don't. A flight to Boston. Well, that too. But we bought a machine head and fear factory are playing. So we decided to buy tickets. Fucking very nice. Very nice.
01:07:33
Speaker
But yeah, that was our Christmas present to ourselves. The switch may have to wait another year. Yeah, we'll see. I think that's it. Yeah, that's the pallet. Pallets are cleansed.
01:07:50
Speaker
I think we might have lost Tom. I'm not sure. No, no, I'm still here. OK. He's frozen with his tongue half out of his mouth. Because my palate is not cleansed and I'm trying to clean it. I'm stuck in this mode. I don't know what's happened to the old camera. Come on. It's all right. It's OK. It's funny because even... It's like you're banging the microphone, you dope. I didn't bang the microphone, I banged the table. Even talking about those games and things like that has sort of partially set my brain.
01:08:17
Speaker
Yeah, so we're back. We're not sure if Tom's been gone for the last five minutes or if he's been gone for the last five seconds. Yeah, I mean, we've come back just to say goodbye, basically, because we're at the end of the episode.
01:08:38
Speaker
Tom was talking about his beer. That's what we did, might've lost over the last five minutes. I was just saying how nice my beer had gotten as it warmed up. So, you know, that's just a lesson to everyone. Let it warm up a little. Big imperial stand. Nice and chocolaty and delicious. I've got quite a lot of mine left, but then I did have that, that big fucking drink before we started. Yeah. Yeah, but I was already three beers deep before we started this too.
01:09:05
Speaker
Yeah, fair enough. We didn't decide to do this until 6.30. I'm just gonna, everyone wolf down some dinner and we'll start recording and see what happens. Just as Pete pours himself like a, maybe somewhere between a double and a triple fucking scotch. Anyway. Yep. Really kind of excited to go and watch some TV now. Caught me in that kind of zone. Go watch it.
01:09:32
Speaker
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