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Episode 78: Sim and Vlad Chat Trail Running in Aus!
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Welcome to Episode 78 of Peak Pursuits, your ultimate podcast for everything trail running in Australia. This episode is hosted by Sim Brick and Vlad Ixel and covers a deeper discussion on the World Champs including where trail running is at as a sport in Australia compared to other areas of the world and some of the areas we see as athletes where improvements could be made. Tied into this is a listener question around why some athletes choose world champs vs UTMB or vice versa, before finishing off with some results from the week!
Results:
Beechworth Beer Run: https://results.tomatotiming.com.au/results.aspx?CId=16&RId=29915&EId=1&dt=2
SEQ Trail Running Series: https://www.racetecresults.com/results.aspx?CId=20148&RId=131&EId=1&dt=2
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Transcript
Introduction and Welcome
00:00:04
Speaker
Hello and welcome to episode 78 of the Peak
Adjusting Back to Perth
00:00:12
Speaker
Pursuits podcast. My name is Simone Brick and I am lucky enough this week to be joined by Vlad Ixl over back in Perth, home on Aussie soil. How are doing, Vlad?
00:00:23
Speaker
Yeah, not too bad. A week back home and no more jet lags, so I'm pretty happy about that. Yeah, that's the time. That's the day where you actually feel like you're home is when you go, okay, I'm on home time zone.
00:00:36
Speaker
I can like function within my home environment again. So good stuff. Well, it is good to
Team Challenges with Time Zones
00:00:42
Speaker
have you back. It is just the two of us on this week's podcast, honestly, with everyone jetting about the world and Jess currently having a very nice holiday in the Azores.
00:00:51
Speaker
Well earned. um it is And the new time differences again because of daylight savings. um Yeah, we've got two of us on and that has been a mission. So thank you for bearing with us, podcast listeners.
00:01:04
Speaker
It has been a little all over the place while our jet setting team have been trying to navigate their way through world champs. But with that over, um it feels like we've had huge things back to back to back.
Upcoming Marathon Events
00:01:16
Speaker
And now we do kind of just get to settle into the usual Aussie summer season and start of that, which, yeah, i was actually just thinking what we've got coming up. I don't know. You can run me through, Vlad, what might be coming up in Perth. But over here, it feels like the next big things, there is roller coaster this weekend, but I feel like everyone's kind of gearing up for UTK now, Ultra Trail Kosciuszko.
00:01:37
Speaker
um But is there and anything else over Westside? I mean, it's all about the Perth Marathon this weekend. Yeah. Same weekend as Melbourne Mara, really? Yeah. um Yeah, a bit strange, right?
00:01:50
Speaker
They could have spaced them out by two or three weeks considering they both have good prize money and some of their leads maybe could have done both. True. They both sell out though, yeah? Or does Perth sell out?
00:02:01
Speaker
Yeah, Perth sellout. Yeah, yeah. it's so They've improved the marathon. like It used to be like a small footpath marathon. Now it's a bigger event that finishes inside the Optus Stadium, which is pretty cool.
00:02:14
Speaker
I've never done um't done it yet, but hope maybe next year. You're not jumping in? Faze is jumping Melbourne Marathon this weekend. You're not tempted? Yeah, no, we spoke about it. it I was like, you could have you should do Perth as well. It's got good prize money.
00:02:27
Speaker
um But it's like, Yeah, maybe if they're like a few weeks apart, but yeah. Yeah, yeah. Clearly both of them are on the ah same weekend. Yeah, fair. um Any bigger trail events coming up after that one or is this it kind of, I don't, I'm not sure what I know ah about in the West um over summer.
00:02:47
Speaker
There's not that much. There's a couple of small races now kind of in spring and then the Perth Trail Summer Series will start. Of course. um But, yeah, we just went one big mountain and we'll have a lot more trail races. I'm still hoping for that.
00:03:05
Speaker
1000 meter peak to grow somewhere around Perth. One day, one day. you just need an earthquake like that doesn't affect anyone, but does grow a mountain. Let's go guys. Let's dream of that. Awesome. Awesome.
00:03:20
Speaker
Well, yes, it has been a very big period, um which, yeah. How do you feel coming to the end of like, i always find the period after a big world champs, if you've been building up to this for quite a while,
00:03:31
Speaker
I was listening to last week's episode and going, yes, he full like tape it into this and did all of the things. So I'm like, wonder how Vlad feels after like, are you typical getting something else on the calendar and continuing on? Are you actually taking a break?
Oman Trail Race Plans
00:03:46
Speaker
Yeah, no i just had ah I actually had a call yesterday about a race in Oman in December, which um I'll most likely do a 60k trail race in Oman. I've never been to Oman, so good chance to to travel there and um do a longer race.
00:04:01
Speaker
I think like with the World Champs, I had, I guess, 10 days since the race and I had nine days off. And I just realized that probably was a bit of a mistake going into it, just knowing looking at the course and looking at the elevation and the numbers, I should have just went, this is not what you train on. This is not what you're good at.
00:04:23
Speaker
um Maybe give this one a miss. I thought that I might be able to cram it in in like, you know, six or seven weeks in Europe. And I did some big weeks. I've done 20-hour training weeks with 10,000 meters of gain a couple of weeks in a row. And but it just wasn't enough to kind of get my body ready for it. And yeah, ah you know, i kind of it's easy it easy kind of sitting back after the race and going, that was not trail running that I usually do. And this was racing, sky running.
00:04:55
Speaker
That's, there's, there's so much to be said on courses like that. And this can be, this can actually be any course, um but there's a lot to be said for not just like a little bit, like a lot for physical comfort within a terrain, but also the mental comfort within a terrain and being used to it.
Performance on Different Terrains
00:05:12
Speaker
So, and this can be a new, and like to a new trail runner, this would be what we would just normally call and like a non-technical trail possibly where they're just because you're uncomfortable on the terrain, it takes so much more effort and your heart rate stays higher, your perceived effort stays higher.
00:05:30
Speaker
But then when you're seasoned trail runner like yourself, there is so much range in the terrain underfoot that yes, when like and so as someone that this year stepped into sky running, because in all the previous years, they were that was the terrain that I loved the most, felt most comfortable in.
00:05:47
Speaker
It was still this massive shift where you're brain has to kind of catch up the whole your whole body systems has to get used to it's a new way of moving again on some of this really steep really technical stuff like last week when you were going through your race and you said how that really steep and technical downhill your heart rate stayed really high a portion of that is possibly just discomfort in the terrain and not being as used to it as opposed to it's not that your fitness was struggling running downhill It's that you're concentrating harder, you're possibly more tense because you're not as used to it and you're not as comfortable in it. you're For you particularly, and a lot of people are in this boat thinking about rolled ankles if you've had past rolled ankles and these sorts of things that I have found, they really do get better, but only with a lot of repetition on this kind of terrain. And the rougher the terrain, the more repetition you need because it's just so much more, like so much more can go wrong
00:06:45
Speaker
um and your brain knows that. Your brain always knows that. So it's reassuring your brain that you have the capacity to deal with it, which is very subtle possibly, but also it might mean the difference between you being a threshold heart rate on that downhill versus five beats below or five or ten.
00:07:02
Speaker
um And then that level of comfort that you have enables because your heart rate's lower, you're comfortable more comfortable again. And they're the people that I think thrived at World Champs, the ones that just the terrain was the terrain and that wasn't anything that was causing them a problem in some ways.
World Champs Terrain and Outcomes
00:07:20
Speaker
um if that Does that make sense, what I'm saying? i Absolutely, I 100% agree with you. And I think in on courses like this, it's really the runners that do well in like, you know, I used to those terrain and and those kinds of courses that do well because the gaps that we saw in this race, I don't think there's many races where you're gonna see gaps like that.
00:07:41
Speaker
um obviously Obviously, like, you know, the performance of, you know, the race, if not the year, was... Tove. Yeah, Alex Anderson from Sweden.
00:07:53
Speaker
um while she we might it She pretty much beat Eli Hemming and um and David Sinclair from from the US. Both of those guys, pretty good runners, you know. Obviously, Eli won OCC and...
00:08:07
Speaker
and a lot of the more runnable 50k and 50 mile races in the US, a similar kind of distance and time races. And then, you know, yeah um that's the thing I found wild about that was that, like, particularly for Eli, I'm not entirely sure where David Sinclair was and stuff, but there was a few of those men that we know are super fast, like Eli, winner of OCC, like everyone knows how fast he is.
00:08:35
Speaker
and David Sinclair, all of them, super fast. And I was watching the coverage. And on that, I'm not, you don't know what it's like actually underfoot. But that last downhill with all the switchbacks, like people look like they're moving and they're running quite fast. Like it doesn't look super wild other than the fact that it switchback after switchback after switchback.
00:08:54
Speaker
But that's where she was passing these guys. And part of me was like, you're on what looks like a semi-runnable downhill, which usually is the place that you're not actually passing as many people or like people sort of even out on runnable downhills. It's harder to make up time.
00:09:13
Speaker
And yes it was at the end of the race. That last downhill, only like the last 2K were like really runnable. Before that, there was a lot of switchback, but it was fairly technical, like fairly rocky.
00:09:24
Speaker
and Not like obviously the incline wasn't there, like, It wasn't like the the elevation change that there was hard. It was more about the rockiness of the trail. But there was a lot of footage from the last kind of 2K where I guess it was easy for the mountain biker to kind of come through behind runners. That was very quick.
00:09:44
Speaker
But then again, yeah, with so many switchbacks, you just break and kind of start again, breaks and start again. But I think where she was overtaking them is that their legs would have been dead by that point.
00:09:55
Speaker
um from all that technique technical running and probably didn't have that power where, you know, he's an orientator. ah It just didn't even look cold and she was in long pants. And just honestly, that was one of the most wild things to watch as someone that watches trail running. Because the whole time, like from halfway, like I've watched Tove before. She's done this before, like at Golden Trail World Series. There was once she went out, she was well in the lead. And then she really did die off.
00:10:24
Speaker
Like she got caught by a number of people. She didn't win. And halfway through, i was like, she's got like a 15, 20 minute lead already. Like, a sheet is she going to hold or is she going to die off? And then it just kept going and going. And she moved from top 30 to top 20 overall and then almost got into the top 10.
00:10:42
Speaker
oh well Oh, no, sorry, she got to like 18th overall. Like as she got into 17th, like as she started passing all those guys, it was like my mind was being blown. Even the commentators, they're like, okay, and here's Tove coming up on Eli Hemming and she passes Eli Hemming.
00:10:57
Speaker
And it was just like... This shouldn't be happening, but also i'm so like in awe that it did. um And part of me is going, thank you, Tove, for showing what's possible.
00:11:10
Speaker
But also, how would you feel to be Sarah and stuff coming second, but you're half an hour behind, like at a world champs. Yeah, yeah. I mean, just shows how hard the course was, um I think, overall.
00:11:25
Speaker
And I think just coming back to like like it was actually fairly cold um most of the day except that last downhill where we got a bit closer to the bottom. But like up the top, it was probably negative two and three. Okay.
00:11:38
Speaker
look It makes me feel a bit better. Yeah. Yeah, it was frozen. Like the ground was frozen on the peaks. Okay, that definitely makes it feel a bit better. But like I guess it's just the case that you had already – I'm already blanking on who was third with Sarah.
00:11:54
Speaker
um Who was the other? English girl, Naomi. Oh, Naomi Lang. Both of them are very good on technical, like very good. So when you when you look at that and you go, i already know you're good technical runners, but you're half an hour behind, you kind of look at it and go, okay.
00:12:11
Speaker
ah no hope in hell ah of ever, like, I suppose it's a bit how everyone would feel when you look at someone that you go, you're out of my realm. I'm never going to be able to achieve anything near like what you can do And you make it look like superhuman um is what Tobey did on that day for sure.
00:12:30
Speaker
um Yeah, it was very cool though. Yeah, no, it was definitely an incredible performance. um But yeah, it just shows that that course was,
00:12:41
Speaker
i I will say i am wildly, um like for Judith, I am wildly upset. Just for the fact that sure ah Judith also being the orienteer, I would have put Judith really high in this ranking.
00:12:56
Speaker
And for her race to come undone by the Wasps at a world champs, I just... Like I would have loved to see how it panned out as just being a race as a race without that um being part of it. Like i I do find it wild that we had a world championships where through was ah wasp through wasp nests, part of me does go, like, even as i was watching the live stream, I'm like, how, how has the course not been checked for this?
Impact of Wasp Stings on Athletes
00:13:25
Speaker
Like, how has that not been like thought about and cleared when you know there's like, and I understand you'd might they might not have even known they were there like I actually don't know how wasps work or wasp nests or anything like that but yeah there was part of my brain that just went how like I just like even for people like Billy and so many other people that got affected by it like in a really bad way where you just go that feels really unfair for you that you go you were fit you were healthy and you got stung by some wasps that you're allergic to
00:13:56
Speaker
in a way that wasn't, it wasn't just a one-off. Like it wasn't just one person and it wasn't just a little wasp. It was everyone. Like I saw the footage, it looked wild. Yes, I mean, it's pretty crazy that it wasn't just like one spot.
00:14:08
Speaker
It was, you know, five or six different spots. and we them And everybody was just getting stung, which yeah it was a bit strange. I don't know if they can really I don't know what happened. Obviously, I've ran on that trail two or three days before and it was fine. So maybe it was something with the lead runners, somebody hitting something, knocking something over. I'm not sure.
00:14:28
Speaker
um But yeah, yeah that's um I mean, I think everybody got affected, like even if you're not allergic to it, it really hurts. And, you know, I was kind of felt like my calves were tightening up because I got stung on both calves and also my neck. So kind of like felt like i was a bit sore moving my neck.
00:14:46
Speaker
um But yeah, I think, um you know, being allergic to it on. unlike a world champs, just very, very unlucky. And yeah, for myself, part of me is like, that's kind of scary because I don't think I've ever been stung by a wasp. And as someone that is allergic to everything, um I am allergic to nature.
00:15:07
Speaker
So, I can almost guarantee I would be allergic, but it's like, I just wouldn't know. And so I like, there might've been other people out there where you get stung and then you've got this fear of going, I don't know how my body reacts to this.
00:15:18
Speaker
Like, I don't, am I going to be anaphylactic? Am I going to be just not feeling good and not breathing good? Like it's, that's scary to me, but to everyone that did make it through wild times and well done. um I cannot imagine getting stung on both my calves and my neck by a wasp and then running the next like whatever, 30, 40 Um,
00:15:35
Speaker
forty k um Yeah, I mean, both being me and Blake got stung and like, you know, the next three days were pretty painful as well. Like it was hard to fall asleep because it was just so itchy.
00:15:48
Speaker
um And it was red as well for like three or four days. Yeah, I've seen pictures of people's. Caitlin Field had just put a good one off as well for on her back. I'm like, how did get on your back?
00:15:59
Speaker
But sure, this is. Yeah, it's too I suppose it's one of the unforeseen things that I never would have thought happened. um But no, the world champs as a whole, like they looked really good. The performances were like Remy Bonet coming back and trouncing everyone in the uphill was incredible.
00:16:16
Speaker
Nina Engelhard just absolutely like, yeah, double performance of the meet by far, um being double world champion. And then, yeah, I did get to watch most of the short trail, the long trail, the timing wise.
00:16:32
Speaker
um didn't work out as well for watching. So I didn't get to see as much of that. um do you Do you know if there's like um like a category that mountain running short course needs to hit?
Trail Race Regulations and Deviations
00:16:45
Speaker
For example, like it has to be like between 10 and 14K with 600 metres gain.
00:16:51
Speaker
Yeah, yeah. I can look them up if you want. what it was Yeah, because I'm thinking like this should be done also for for the long and short trail. There is. It is. There's no 3,700 meters of gain is in that bracket because that would be a wild bracket of what a trail race can be.
00:17:11
Speaker
brave um Select um technical rules.
00:17:18
Speaker
It feels like you know there needs to be um a very like you know precise middle ground. that So um i believe the uphill with Classic to with to yeah um long trail it's got 75 to 85 with 3 500 to 6 000 where is my short trail oh yeah it does say 35 to 45 with 2 000 to 3 000. yeah so that's that that and that would have been fine you know take away that last climb of that race and um
00:17:57
Speaker
you know, it's a different race. um So, yeah, it's a bit strange that that was so out. Yeah, because then it says the deal with men's winning time, long trail 7 hour 45 to 8 hour 15, short trail 3 hour 45 to 4 hour 15. What was the winning time?
00:18:12
Speaker
4.45. Yeah, that is interesting. That is. on the World Athletics website now. Yeah, because like after Innsbruck, I think people were saying that was like on the edge of how,
00:18:25
Speaker
much elevation a course a short trail course should have and Innsbruck had about 3,000 meters for 45k um yeah yeah it's a bit strange it feels like you know is know obviously maybe Spain kind of like okay we got some good technical trail runners let's make the course as hard as possible but um yeah it's a bit strange because it just becomes like a different sport than um Yeah, because what did you get on like your stats for what the elevation gain was?
00:18:55
Speaker
Like 3.7, 3,700 for 45 days. But that doesn't fit in the bracket that they've given. So no, that is an interesting query of how many guys had that happen.
00:19:07
Speaker
Yeah, that's really strange. It's all good. Lily, on your bed. Lily just wants to say hi. suppose, man. um Yeah, the long trail still fits because that's up to 6,000. Yeah, and that like, you know, the long trail, if you look at the numbers and, you know, it kind of looked not that bad.
00:19:28
Speaker
um But yeah, 3,700 for 45k just is outside, I think what you would call a trail running. um It was it was a lot obviously a lot of hiking um ah involved in a forty five k trail race.
00:19:45
Speaker
Yeah, yeah, definitely. Well, with the next ones being in Cape Town, I doubt they're going to be hitting those stats. so Yeah, I don't think they probably can't hit those stats in Cape Town, even though ah from what I've heard, it's probably going to be fairly technical. But yeah, elevation wise, it's probably not going to be a as bad.
00:20:04
Speaker
Yeah, i think i think when it it can be technical and not much elevation and then it's like it's still a different race. It's still, um yeah. Yeah, and I mean i think I think like running downhill on a technical trail at 10% incline on technical terrain is not as bad as downhill at 20% incline. That just becomes, you know, yeah a different game.
00:20:28
Speaker
Very much so. ah Hopefully they will kind of make sure that the next ones are a bit more in line with those guidelines. So it becomes a bit more fair for everybody. Otherwise, like, you know, um coming out of Australia, you no chance. I mean, even even if you see the results for the US runners in the short trail um was, you know, a lot worse than what they should have done technically.
Australian Team's Performance at World Champs
00:20:52
Speaker
Here's what I love though. And I am aware that um we did do very decent in, like it looked like the mountain classic wasn't that wild. um That looked fast and runnable and like good for a mountain classic race.
00:21:07
Speaker
um But here's what I absolutely love. Australia came 11th country overall, which as far as I'm aware is probably about our best result ever.
00:21:17
Speaker
Maybe to be fair, there's not always many countries that have the full teams for the full things necessarily. So I don't know how many of the 70 something countries actually had full teams, but, but.
00:21:29
Speaker
probably That is our best result ever at these champs, which were by no means tailored or like good for people coming across from Oz trying to train for it. That for me is awesome for what then like the progress, I suppose, of the sport.
00:21:44
Speaker
Yeah, i mean, I think that that team ranking is based on, you know, an X amount of runners in each category. So I think that one of the main reasons with it so well is because we were able to send a fairly big team, even though have been bigger. It wasn't France or Spain or Italy big.
00:22:03
Speaker
or Germany big, but it was still um you know a good sized team. um So, I mean, that just shows that it's good to send big teams. But yeah, I think we were lucky because a lot of the you know Sweden, for example, didn't really have a full team. So that meant that we finished in front of Sweden who had some pretty good results um overall in the event.
00:22:22
Speaker
um But yeah, I think that overall still 11th is a good result. And um it was a bit of a shame that I didn't really pick up any of it with a cap coverage.
00:22:35
Speaker
I think that a few of the team members on the team were kind of like a bit surprised that we didn't get a mention considering considering like, you know, some solid results overall um as a team. 100%.
00:22:47
Speaker
um Yep. That's why like I was on the back end of the Peak Beseechs Instagram trying to get results out to everyone as soon as possible. And there was part of me that was just hoping something somewhere would get Someone would get a mention. The team would get a mention. We were doing so well.
00:23:04
Speaker
And there was some absolute ripper results out of Oz. And so many people hit the selection policy when it came out had that thing of they wanted people that could perform within the top 50% of the field.
00:23:18
Speaker
We had so many people hit that. It was really cool to watch um because in the past we haven't, I don't know how many we've had in the past all up that have hit that top 50%, but this time bigger champs, there there was bigger fields, but that still just means it's a more competitive field all around too. So we had so many people hit that and Yeah, I was getting a little disappointed more day by day as I'm like, please just give it some love. And it I suppose part of me is ah even more so when they've just rebranded and they have a brand new logo and part of that logo is meant to represent trail.
00:23:53
Speaker
And this is their logo for the governing body for the whole thing. part of like the main logo it's like a few stripes and they've got a portion to represent road a portion to represent kosh country a portion to represent track and a portion to represent trail it's the broken orange portion at the bottom that was all the thing that was sent out and they're like we're all coming under one banner but they're yet to prove they actually care about training yeah I'm just like, right guys, these were awesome words and the logo is a great token of the fact that you're putting it there because World Athletics have said you have to.
00:24:29
Speaker
um But right now, this is probably one of my biggest criticisms where I'm like, we just did amazing at a world championships and we had so many people spend their way there, pay their way there and put up so much savings and people supporting them. So thank you to everyone that did support an athlete because it cost every single one of them a lot of money to go and represent and they all did amazing.
00:24:52
Speaker
And just to get no love. Autra, I will say, Autra representatives were on on the ground with you, weren't they, Vlad? Yeah, I mean, i think we should we should give a massive shout-out to Jeff that did come there you know, supported athletes, was on the course. um It tried, I guess, to create some connections for the future.
00:25:13
Speaker
um So that that is definitely a good sign of of hopefully what's to come to the in the future. And, um yeah, thanks, Jeff, for for making making the time to be there and support us and and hopefully grow the sport.
00:25:26
Speaker
100%. And don't get us wrong. We're like, at no point, I didn't think was anyone expecting, like, they had the coverage going for para athletics. Absolutely love it. They've just had the Tokyo coverage daily, all those sorts of things.
00:25:38
Speaker
I don't think anyone was expecting that of the the daily coverage or anything. But the silence I suppose that's where I'm just like, is yeah, that's what I suppose hurt. And I'm not even one of the athletes that was there representing, but this is just the sport I love. And I'm just like, please. just't Yeah, I think especially just seeing how much the French team, um you know, supported that, they the Spanish team, the Italian team, you know, the German team.
00:26:05
Speaker
have bonuses for the French team and ah some of the other teams and the Spanish team? Oh, so there there was obviously prize money in the event. No, but this is the, this is the, like the athletics federation of, I'm pretty sure it was especially Spain because it was their championships.
00:26:21
Speaker
The commentators were saying how they had like massive bonuses for like podium positions. And then there was a couple where like, I think, which one was it where Spain came second, third and fourth?
00:26:32
Speaker
Um, yeah. there I can't remember which race it was. It was on the men's side. Spain was in second, third and fourth. And the commentators even made the comment that they're like, we're not sure the Spanish Federation will have any more money left after this because of how big those prize purses were and how much the Federation was getting behind them. Now I'm aware it's a home championship, but we're like,
00:26:53
Speaker
a hundred decades of that happening in Oz, I must admit, like it feels like. Well, I think we've taken a big backwards step because back in 2017, when I did do the World Champs and finished 25th, I got $250 bonus.
00:27:04
Speaker
i got two hundred and fifty dollars bonus um Yeah, buddy. Yeah, from Ultra. They did have a bonus structure. So first, top five, I think, was maybe $500. Top at least. And that Ultra? Yeah.
00:27:22
Speaker
top twenty five two hundred and fifty dollars so there was something at least and that was ara That was ultra, yeah. Yeah, and um so i'd know I'd never been to – I'd been to the first like one where they combined um trail and mountain in Argentina when they had everything slowly sort of coming together under one champs.
Governance of Trail Running in Australia
00:27:43
Speaker
But before that, and I think even possibly that one, it was World Mountain – sorry, AMRA, Oz Mountain Running Association. And we were all given um money back at the end. um We were given back like whatever the whatever AMRA got from the – um organize local organising committee got split amongst the athletes and they did the fundraising for a bunch of stuff for us. we're so this And that was i like that was really appreciated. Was it still self-funded? 100%. But I suppose this is just to educate everyone listening on sort of things have been slowly merging and coming together. And I will say on the whole, it's been good. It's been good to see. It's been that there's now sort of more cohesion um but
00:28:27
Speaker
that I guess it's just we know now that we've got Autra. Autra are doing really cool things and it looks like they're making big steps forwards and that's sort of our little head. But above Autra is AA and they're meant to be the last person with the last say in a way where they've got um or the last governing body.
00:28:43
Speaker
They're the ones that are with world athletics, et cetera. And I suppose when from the very top there's no love at all so far, so far that's where I'm just like how like just lead from the top please like if we want change it just feels like it's it's the bottom down that the bottom up does happen but it's so slow and the top down um is always going to be a bit like faster better I don't know um Well, it's just weird that they they can't see how big trail running has become.
00:29:17
Speaker
And, you know, it's been slowly growing. It's not like high rocks that like overnight just exploded. um You know, trail running has been growing steadily for the last, you know, 7, 8, 10 years.
00:29:29
Speaker
And it just seems like, you know, they're not really... yeah, catching up with the times and um obviously countries like Spain and Italy and those countries have caught up and and caught up in a big time and trail athletes are pretty much in line with you know track athletes and road athletes in those countries.
00:29:48
Speaker
Maybe a years behind, but like, you know, a little bit less support. but um Yeah, but not behind. Not a thousand years behind. Less support. Yeah. not ah Not as much. And I suppose it's still the case that if you were to ask a Swiss athlete, French athlete, Spanish athlete, who represents them and who's their governing body, it would be the Athletics Federation and they would feel connected to that federation.
00:30:15
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um I have a feeling if you were to ask, 99% of trail runners in Australia, do you feel it all connected to athletics Australia as you are part of their logo and you are part of their mission or whatever they say, and you are, you are come under their umbrella.
00:30:29
Speaker
Do you feel it all affiliated with them? I'm not sure many would say yes. Um, even at the top end. Oh, absolutely. Yeah. like And that's, that's the difference I feel. Um,
00:30:41
Speaker
Because yeah and we have the advantage of having seen how it works in Europe. And having seen, it's like this breath of fresh air where you walk in and you're like, trail running is celebrated here. I mean, I think a small a small kind of way of improving it could have been just a uniform, right?
00:30:59
Speaker
Like they just did the Tokyo World Champs and the Parallel. Paralympic champs, you know, they just produced like 1000 Australia uniform.
00:31:09
Speaker
Well, we they could have made another 30 and send it to the trail running team instead of each runner, you know, paying $400 for uniforms that worth first of all.
00:31:21
Speaker
um And second of all, a uniform that looked like, you know, we kind of like made this up last minute. And tell you the truth, I've been i've used in this race, I've used the same singlet that I used back in 2016. Because of the distance to from Tokyo to this, um and I know that this is, it's a small thing that makes a big difference if you're an athlete on this team.
00:31:50
Speaker
But also watching, it was like, you can see that most of the countries, like as someone that watched Tokyo and watched this, you can see that most of the countries are in the same kit. They look the same.
00:32:00
Speaker
They're representing the same body. You can you can see the difference. They're in the exact same kit from both. And there wasn't, like, I saw us. I don't know if I saw anyone else that was in a different kit. Like, which again, i'm not I'm going to say, I didn't mind the jackets because you stood out.
00:32:16
Speaker
um um But when it comes to just, the cohesion as as we're saying here. Like there's a disconnect right now. And I would love to see that disconnect figured out because there was a period there where back in Thailand, we kind of had the Oz uniform-ish. It was a different color. it felt weird running in blue and white, but then it was- was second grade. So that was the second grade uniform. They were like more kind of, um yeah, designed for like, you know, school championships and stuff like that. Or like almost part of the supporter
00:32:50
Speaker
kind of shop that AA kind of licensed to a manufacturer that would print Australia on like already ready-made Puma. Yeah, they were Puma, but they were... Yeah, they were at least second grade. I remember like at the end of the race trying to swap the singlet with a Canadian guy, looked at the singlet and he goes, no, this is second grade. Well, you could not swap that uniform. one at all wanted it.
00:33:14
Speaker
but And then we did like, we were in the, set we were in the, it was the nice green and gold uniform for Innsbruck. And then now again, I'm just like, what happened? But um I've also, and this is just a side note, but I've also had a few people mention how Australia on our kit was not capitalized as a country should be capitalized, which don't know how many people actually noticed that. But at the same time, it was more just the, the, the difference in kit. Now I will say,
00:33:41
Speaker
The team wore it proudly. The team did amazing. All the athletes, like I'm, I suppose as someone that wasn't there, I'm just kind of looking on it going, I absolutely love you all. You did incredible. And it was really cool to see the team come together, support each other, do all those things.
00:33:57
Speaker
There's just part of me that because of knowing how the system works, knowing how hard everyone's worked to be there and the little things that do make a difference, part of me just goes, I feel like this team deserves it a little bit better.
00:34:08
Speaker
hopefully in Cape Town, we have that little bit, we have step somewhere. And um yeah, where that comes from, like Jeff was there on the ground, Ortra's asking questions of feedback and all these sorts of things. I do love that.
00:34:21
Speaker
um We'll see if we can get feedback to AA, hum but it'll be, yeah, it It's an interesting, I suppose, topic conversation. um Yeah, because I don't want, like, i do I just feel like, especially if a lot of you athletes are getting to the point where then you've ran your heart out of the world champs.
00:34:41
Speaker
And I don't know, just like, you'd probably, like, everyone would feel a little underappreciated when you go, does the governing body that selected us even care? Like, they put out this hard selection and then there was people that didn't get to come and they set out this thing if we want people to try and come top 50%.
00:34:56
Speaker
Hey, guys, I achieved that. Do you care? um yeah Yeah, no, you're 100% right. I think that one thing that I probably should mention as well that in our group team chat, like in the last few days, people like, hey, where do I get pictures from the race?
00:35:10
Speaker
And obviously, because we were all, I guess, you know, not in the top 10 and 20, like there weren't that many pictures of us. And, um you know, even some of the, ah like there was maybe like 100 photos of the short trail as like official photos and none of the Australians were or on those pictures. So that was a little bit disappointing as well. A lot of countries like brought their own photographers.
00:35:36
Speaker
um You know, obviously the US, a couple of photographers on course, Spain, Italy, again, Germany, all those people had a photographer on course, so they can showcase the event, they can showcase the athletes, they can showcase the sport.
00:35:50
Speaker
um You know, obviously, we were there like, you know, we were We were very far um from that point. and And I think it was disappointing that they didn't do a better job with, um you know, photographs. I feel like some people found some pictures through Instagram and and stuff like that. And then some people weren't on the pictures because, you know, the photographer only shot the first 50 or 80 runners, which was a little bit disappointing. So that was, yeah, that was, ah guess, a bit of a... Because compared to like Innsbruck and...
00:36:24
Speaker
in Thailand where um at least they've been, you know, kind of had more photographers on court and on on course. It was a bit disappointing I had a lot of photos from Thailand. Yeah, that's right. Yeah, Thailand did a really good job.
00:36:36
Speaker
I guess that's Innsbruck being... and And I did speak about that to a few runners. Innsbruck was in a big city, so it was very accessible. like There was a lot more support. There was a lot more options.
00:36:50
Speaker
um Same with Thailand. That was in Chiang Mai pretty much. So again... Yeah, so this race was... yeah so this rice was logistically very, very hard. You know, the team stayed half an hour away from the start and the finish line. Different teams stayed in different places, you know, um kind of buses, you know, buses in Spain are not very reliable.
00:37:14
Speaker
um So that was that was probably like, you know, just not that easy holding a race there. Obviously, the mountains are beautiful, um but logistically, it wasn't the best choice for a world champ because there was a lot of people there and all the people that you...
00:37:30
Speaker
So on the course, like, you know, um and we're all part of the event somehow. There was nobody, there was no tourists in the town, if you know what I mean, or people. then Although I will say that last day for the Classic looked pretty cool for the crowds, but that's always going to be the case on the last day. So, yeah, it it looked like.
00:37:47
Speaker
That was all countries, you know what I mean? That's people that traveled to the area. They weren't local people, like, you know, a handful of people. You could tell that, you could certainly tell that. And like, yeah, i suppose it looked like, it looked overall very well put together. I will say that I did find it disappointing for a lot of you that, and this is big again, because of the logistics, which I understand, but also it's a bit like, well, this is a world champs where only five of the kind of only five of each country could go to the opening ceremony.
00:38:14
Speaker
And as someone, especially if it's your first world champs team, like that's a big deal going to an opening ceremony. It's the celebration of of getting there. um And so I did love that the Pro Try Runner Association did try to put on a separate sort of thing for everyone else that couldn't go because they're like, this doesn't seem right. um But yeah, I like, I'm looking forward to the fact that that won't be the case in, in Cape Town.
00:38:35
Speaker
But um before any, like, ah know we're we're saying a lot of this um now because I just want to put everyone in sort of where someone, someone like Vlad, or especially some of these younger athletes that have made, or people that have made the team for the first time. And this isn't, um,
00:38:52
Speaker
This is also to do with the question that we had sent in because we had a question sent in about the differences in fields, um say, between UTMB and world champs and why some someone would pick one, not the other. This person, Gabrielle, who sent the question in was saying like how you see Courtney at UTMB, but not at world champs.
00:39:10
Speaker
Someone like Ruth, UTMB, not world champs. And then there's a few people that did the opposite. And it's like, why is there a difference? Or like, why would you go one versus the other? And so to put everyone sort of in in the position of, say, some of our younger Aussies or some of the newer Aussies, even even old seasoned, like yourself, of having been there before, it's months.
Decision Between World Champs and UTMB
00:39:32
Speaker
This is just from an Aussie standpoint. I'm not talking other countries yet, but this is just, it's months and months. of training and thousands and thousands of dollars that you put towards this one race.
00:39:43
Speaker
um And I was someone that did have the choice of which one did I go for UTMB or did I go for world champs? and And I'm just going to talk people through some of the thoughts I had on that process to say this, but You can put months and months of training in. World Champs is a great event. Obviously, it's incredibly competitive. That course probably suited me better. There's a few people out there that that might have done been the case for.
00:40:03
Speaker
But you get to put on the country's kit and that's incredible. But to do that, you... Well, this there's the selection process. That's fine. But there's the costs involved, paying for the uniform, paying the the levy to Athletics Australia um and paying flights, accommodation, all the other things that go with that travel.
00:40:21
Speaker
um And because... As for me, and this goes, this is for other countries now, you're not wearing your sponsor's kit. So there's often, there's there will be some bonuses, et cetera, from sponsors, but it won't be as big for a commercial as it is for something like UTMB as a commercialized event where you're in their kit.
00:40:39
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um Because say for me, like it also, even ah a lot of the people on the OZ team, they run for one brand and they're wearing a different brand on this day in the uniform because they're running for the country now.
00:40:52
Speaker
When you're now in Vlad or a lot of these runners position where you've gone and some of these races, a lot of these races, you're the world champs, you're outside your comfort zone and you have absolutely gone to the well.
00:41:04
Speaker
Like I know there's, um, Fraser, I loved the description he gave on his, on the FTK podcast. of the whole uphill and it's just like it's some of the most pain you've ever been in your life and your body's screaming at you to stop and they're pushing through and you do, you push through for the country.
00:41:19
Speaker
This is why it makes a difference whether when you get to the other side, does the country care? You go, Okay, that was the hardest thing I've ever done.
00:41:29
Speaker
I just spent thousands of dollars and months of my life dedicated to it. And this is why when you see other countries that maybe are there and they've got the federation there, they're getting money from their federation, they're getting so all the applause, news articles, Instagram posts, all of the things to celebrate their achievements.
00:41:47
Speaker
and then you stand there at the finishing ceremony as an Aussie sometimes it can feel like did did any of it matter like whether you had a good run or a bad run it's even worse if you've had a bad run you're like what did I just do that for like I hope I'm getting this across where it's like the reason that a lot of these things make a difference is only really felt when you're actually there in person so for someone like myself where I'm going well I, if, for me, if I CCC had have happened, I rock up to CCC, I have Solomon's support and they're incredible and they've always been incredible to me. And I'm very thankful for that.
00:42:22
Speaker
But then you have the support leading into the race. most things paid for. There's big prize money. There's also bonuses. And then after the race, if you have a good result or a bad result, you get celebrated.
00:42:34
Speaker
Things get like, you get told, Hey, we, we support you. You've done good. And yes, all of these people, um, that race for us, I hope every single one of you has been told how incredible you are and that you're getting the support, but There's something that's left yearning for or like questioning when the support isn't coming for from the people you feel like you've just worked really hard for.
00:42:59
Speaker
Have I explained that at all properly, i not I think you're kind of explaining two things. um I mean, I'm answering the question, the listener question about how come some runners are not doing world champs and doing UTMB events. so I think that comes down to contracts.
00:43:16
Speaker
Yes. Money. Yeah, i like sponsorships. But I think that we saw this year that you know France, Spain, Germany, US did send the strongest teams. like um Some of them, obviously some that were focused on UTMB weren't there.
00:43:33
Speaker
But if you think about it, that's Ruth who wouldn't get much support from New Zealand. That's Dan Johns that you know could have done really well at that race, would have not got much support from New Zealand.
00:43:45
Speaker
That's Tom Evans who would have not got a crazy amount of support from from the UK. um But the US, Jim Womsey was there, um Katie Scheid was there. So, you know, they did get that that support from from their governing body. And that's why they were there. And I think You know, hopefully sponsors will kind of see um how much attention this race got.
00:44:09
Speaker
And you did see Salomon celebrate some of the athletes, even though they were wearing, you know. 100%, I love that. That was good to see. They were still racing with ah with with their shoes. So there was still some benefit.
00:44:20
Speaker
um But I think that after this year's event, more countries might put world champs on the map there. I think the problem is if World Champs is very close to UTMB, that's when it becomes hard because a lot of those brands would spend a lot of money on UTMB, spend a lot of money on activations, and that's where they need the athletes to be.
00:44:44
Speaker
They can't really do that at the World Champs event. So the marketing... yeah value that they're going to get out of the athletes is a bit lower compared to them running a UTMB event. And even if they don't do great at UTMB, just being there for the whole week, just, you know, um doing a couple of group runs, signing some posters and and autographs, you know, that brings them a lot more value than, you know, maybe doing well at a world champs.
00:45:09
Speaker
But saying that, I think that, you know, that tension that the world of champs got, not really in Australia, but outside of Australia was a lot greater than Innsbruck and Thailand.
Growing Recognition for World Champs
00:45:20
Speaker
um and So I think, yeah, that absolutely. I think that it was captured by, especially on the European side, really well. um It really overshadows Golden Trail um finals right now. Like, you know, obviously Golden Trail finals are on this coming week and the major UTMB in the US, um whatever it's called, Kodak Ultra Trail.
00:45:48
Speaker
Yeah, um that's on this weekend as well. And there's, yeah, that even though same some of the same runners are doing both, I don't feel they're going to get as much attention as what the world champs just did.
00:46:01
Speaker
um So hopefully, you know, brands are going to see some value in that. Maybe, you know, the world champs need to do an expo there or something too. But yeah, it makes it hard when, you know, the country is supported by a brand and it's different than your sponsor.
00:46:16
Speaker
So, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. So that's, yeah, suppose as a And you'll find obviously this is um a lot more on the top, top athletes. That's a lot of where the decision making comes in.
00:46:26
Speaker
um But then then you've got the completely different side of things. If we did have some, at least one, if not two people that were selected on the Aussie team that in the end just couldn't afford to go. um And then then there's a different, what I was trying to explain was that was the other side of it where you ye you're weighing up the why am I flying across to the other side of the world to do this when, and yeah it feels amazing when you're there. And I'm hoping that was the case, Vlad, the team looked really good.
00:46:54
Speaker
Um, and the team support from the people around you is like nothing else you'll get in trail running. That's why we all love it. And that's what I was like getting all the FOMO for. um but yeah, that, that the other side of it where you just, you can't help but compare when you're in that sort circumstance because you're seeing it all straight in front of you.
00:47:14
Speaker
um to be at a world champs and have just given your best and feel second grade is a little bit or yeah, I don't know if second, I don't know. But yeah, that's just some thoughts, suppose. There's a lot of thoughts.
00:47:29
Speaker
um Yeah, think that that just comes again to the Australian team. um Yes, 100%. And no, there are other countries. I'm not going to say that Australia is the only one in this boat because I have spoken to other athletes that ah from other smaller countries that often aren't the big European ones um that do also struggle with the same thing. um Like there's certain countries that they don't actually even get to keep the uniform. They don't own it, they get it on loan and they have to give it back, um which it's still the same uniform. But yeah, there's those sorts of things that go on. a lot, of quite a few countries, it's self-funded.
00:48:03
Speaker
um And for every single one of those countries, not just Oz, I know because I've been there in the World Champs and you end up chatting to them and everyone goes, well, There's Nike, there's, um sorry, there's USA rocking up with the entire kit that everyone gets and there's Germany and there's Spain and there's France. And how do we compete against them when it's like, you can you can walk in and you can sort of feel the difference in a way. At least that's the way it was the last world champs I was at. um But yeah, I think that's like still, ah it's it's not just an Aussie problem, it's a global problem, but we can only we can only speak from an Aussie perspective.
00:48:37
Speaker
Yeah, i'll I'll give you an example with the Philippines. So I mean, the Philippines obviously got nothing from their governing body, but they had really strong leaders that took this on to try and support the runners. And what they did is they reached out to brands.
00:48:54
Speaker
They're like, hey, editors, can we have some shoes? Editors send them some shoes. So suddenly they have some shoes. They send me a message like, hey, can you send us some bigs as you know, to support the team as as I guess a bit of a charity kind of to support the Philippines team. And I was like, yeah, why not? Here is, you know, 600, 800 jails that are sent them for the team.
00:49:14
Speaker
um And they did that a few times. and guess what? The Philippines team did really, really well. And they had a big team with a physio, with a photographer there. They had a few team members there. You know, they did some training camps in the lead up and they're coming from the same budget as Australia. We just didn't have anybody that sent emails, that asked for things, that requested things that, you know, we just didn't have that. And you know even now like me talking with Jeff you know it's not that hard to get uniforms sponsored by a brand um you know all it takes is a couple of emails and one of them would say yes or one of them would say discount we'll give it to you at least at a discounted price or at a cost price it's just weird that we ended up paying for those uniforms full price which is $400 for a singlet jacket and a pair of shorts I mean it was just weird that
00:50:07
Speaker
You know, we were at that point that nobody really cared um to do in the lead up to to those world champs because we could have got some support maybe from a few brands, you know. You send a couple of emails, you know, somebody's going to say yes.
00:50:22
Speaker
But if you don't send those emails, those friends are not going to come to you, kind of go, hey, we want to support your uniform. We're going to sponsor your uniform. want to, you know, send a photographer. We want to, you know, be a physio. We will fly out a physio with you. um But the Philippines did. And, you know, they had a big team with a big support group.
00:50:39
Speaker
And they did well. They did a lot better than than us in many ways. um Love that. Yeah, love that. Good. And I suppose, like, seeing those examples and getting those ideas, it's just getting those ideas and stuff to the right people.
00:50:52
Speaker
Because yeah, you do end up starting to question, well, where's this money going that I'm paying for all the i like, yeah, it's, it's a it's a whole rigmarole. But ah That conversation, long that went a lot longer than I expected. But at the same time, it's been a piece that for years and years and years has been a conversation between athletes and between countries, et cetera, that um we're still a growing sport. It's the recognition that we're still a growing sport. But for how many years can you say we're still a growing sport? It's okay. It's going to get better before you go, Hey guys, um I was told in 2018 when I had my first world champs, that stuff was going to get better.
00:51:29
Speaker
And then the merger happened. And again, it was going to get better. And yeah, it's, I suppose when the, and you've had even more years where if you've been in the sport long enough, um it does get to the point where you go, well, we're not that small anymore, anymore guys.
00:51:44
Speaker
Like we're really not actually a baby ah sport anymore. We're like growing a bit faster than you think. So yeah, keep watching this space. Any comments on this conversation, by all means, chuck in your two cents because we've just put our 10, $20 cents in of everything that's been going down behind the scenes, which has actually taken up a lot of the podcast so far.
00:52:07
Speaker
So yeah. um I'm going to save Anusha. I know has has sent a question in that I am actually going save for next week because we can then get more heads on it and it's to do with safety when traveling overseas.
00:52:22
Speaker
So if anyone else does have questions on the topic of how to stay safe when traveling to a new country, you might be by yourself and you're trying to find places to run, et cetera, we're going to try and put together all our best tips and advice on how to go about that, how to find people to run with, et cetera.
00:52:38
Speaker
um That will be on next week's episode. So anyone with more questions around that, send them in and we'll deepen that conversation next to week. you Cause I don't, I wanna do that some justice and not just tack it onto the end of our long discussion just then.
00:52:51
Speaker
um So yeah, on the wrap up of World Champs, I'm so proud of our team. Well done, Vlad. Well done, every single one of you that was out there. And I hope you're all listening because you let rip and you did us proud, um no matter how the outcome went, because we all saw everyone giving their best.
00:53:06
Speaker
So it was very cool to watch. Very, very cool to watch. So I'm excited now for Asia Pacific next year, hopefully. um We'll see how that one goes down. That will be the this sort of indication of how things are tracking.
00:53:20
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00:54:09
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And with that, let's get back to the show. Bringing it back, bringing it back home before we get to results. um ah Honestly, my update isn't very big or very like, I'm still, it's not running much. I do will say, little celebration for me. I tried to run 30 minutes on the weekends.
00:54:29
Speaker
And I ran 30 minutes on Sunday with 35 in the end, because the loop that I selected that was 6K took 35 instead of 30, because I was not moving quickly, but I was running at five 50 ish per kilometer with an average heart rate of 168 beats.
00:54:46
Speaker
And my heart rate was above 180 for a solid 10 minutes, um which feels like, like five weeks ago, i ran for seven hours in the Italian mountains and now on this, on the weekend was I'd been doing as few run walks.
00:55:02
Speaker
And on Sunday I was like, I'm just going to try and run for 30 minutes. And I got to the end of that. And it was essentially a 30 minute threshold at 549 per kilometer. And I actually had to have a rest day.
00:55:14
Speaker
Like I rested the rest of the day and I had to take Monday completely off because of that 30 minute run. So that's where I'm at right now, which it's not the best place to be physically, but I'm back moving. So i I'm not going to do any more consistent runs this week. I'm going to go back to run walking because my body just does not agree with the fact that running is a good idea yet consistently. So um all I have to say is POTS and post-fire fatigue actually really, really suck to anyone that has messaged. Thank you.
00:55:46
Speaker
Because as I have learned, I am not alone at all. um There's many, many trail runners out there and runners all around that have had similar things like long COVID even. It's the exact same thing.
00:55:57
Speaker
um it's not fun is I don't even know how to describe it other than the fact that can't and the difference being I was explaining that this is the longest break from any active from activity that my body has had in a decade because normally you can do something um but at the moment yes I'm back run walking it from the last week but prior to that it was almost three weeks of absolutely nothing, which feels weird.
00:56:26
Speaker
It feels weird, but we're getting there slowly, slowly. So that's about my update. anymore If you want any more of an update, I've become a vlogger. Glad I've joined you on the YouTube verse. So it is early days and I am in Rookieville.
00:56:42
Speaker
So please bear with me while I'm in Rookieville, but I do have another video hopefully dropping today. Just having the energy to edit is also hard. But yes, updates on my YouTube guys. Go please, like and subscribe.
00:56:56
Speaker
Vlad's just laughing at me. ah ah stepped away a little bit from YouTube. It just takes so much time. Oh, it does. I was like, what have I gotten myself into? This is actually not easy. Anyways, I'm trying guys, I'm trying.
00:57:11
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I've got not much else to do, so it's fine. Either way, just to tie up this episode, we are getting back to usual programming of results. Let me plug my computer in, I'm about to die. Oh, there we go.
00:57:23
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I'm back. um So we have, do actually have some results this week. um So quick shout out to Barkin' Mad Ultra. This is the first one.
00:57:33
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Amy messaged in. So I don't know people have heard of Barkin' Mad Ultra, but it is a great big fundraiser for a dog's rescue. and everyone runs either 5 10 20 or 50k with a dog every single person and the videos from it look amazing and i would love to be in involved at some at some point glad you and lily would let rip so you would have ah lot of fun so shout out to bark and mad ultra and everything you're doing if anyone is ever interested in getting um into sort of canny cross or like um running
00:58:05
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Yeah, look at what they do. It's pretty cool. um other actual Other races um for trail, we had the Beechworth Beer Run, which I'm shouting this one out because I love looking at results and seeing this on both sides.
00:58:18
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So for the women, this is in the 28k full pint. um The winner was Steph Radford in 2 hours 56.19. Second place was Jessica Ewart Matig in 2.58.22, so two minutes back.
00:58:34
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And then third was Nicole McKilliam in 2.58.28, so only six seconds. And then it was only another minute back to fourth, so that was all nice and close front to four um there on the women's. And then in the men's, very similar story.
00:58:51
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We had, now Craig, I am sorry if I mispronounce this, but Craig... Fewer heard in first in two hours, 40, 48. And only 20 seconds back was Josh Jesse in two hours, 41, 11.
00:59:06
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forty one eleven And only another minute back was Ethan Sanderson in two hours, 42, 44, who must have out sprinted fourth place, which was Jim Wythe's in two hours, 42, 48. So only four seconds there. And fifth was only back to another 10 seconds back behind.
00:59:23
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So love seeing some nice close racing going on. This one, um, is on some mountain bike trails in Beachworth looks absolutely incredible. um Other quick shout out. This is just results that I've, as I've trolled the internet, I found huge shout out to Anna Pillinger up at Lakes Trail Festival.
00:59:40
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So um they have a hundred, a 50, a 30 and a 70. And in the 70K, Anna Pillinger won outright. in six hours, 44.32, which is a very quick time for a 70K on its own, by and over an hour, first mail was Cameron Noakes in seven hours, 51.51.
01:00:03
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So that is a huge run or a huge win by Anna there. So well done, Anna. And then we have the Southeast Queensland Trail Running Series.
01:00:13
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That has gotten started for race one. um And in their long course, Zoe Manning was up there in action and she got the win on the women's side only by 10, no, only by 30 seconds.
01:00:24
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So Zoe Manning, then Selin Sherratt, in second and Tara Gorman in third. um So Selen Cher is not a name I know, but if she's that close to Zoe, she could um could be on the up and coming, which is cool to see.
01:00:37
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On the men's side, Michael Knops got the win in 54 minutes, Andrew Day in 57 for second and Matt Sweetman in an hour for third. Oh, that must mean Zoe was third outright.
01:00:49
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Go Zoe um on that one. And then the only other result that I have to mention, and this is Bear with me, personal fave. um Kate Avery is back in action after giving birth to Margot. Margot must be about three months now.
01:01:04
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So she had her first race back. I know she's also going to be at, um, rollercoaster 12K this weekend, but she won outright the 10 kilometer at Macedon trail, Macedon trail runs on the weekend in 52 minutes and 52 seconds.
01:01:20
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She won by six minutes. So big win, but very first run back post-bub. So it's good to see Kate back in action. um You can go back and find interviews with her if you wanted to find out who more, a bit more about Kate. too um That leaves us with what's coming up, which this weekend we've got Rollercoaster, which is a pretty big event over here.
01:01:42
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The East Human Hovel Ultra, great nosh foot race in Sydney. And then massive shout out to SA for actually doing this, but they've got their Mount Bold South Australia Trail Running Championships, which I'm not sure which other states even have a national, sorry, a state championship at this point. So shout out to SA for that.
01:02:05
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Now, Vlad, do I still have you? Yep. Okay, cool, because it's just popping up with an alert saying that something's wrong on your end, but that's fine. um We've got you.
01:02:17
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Me going off on my spiel. Anything coming up in your life um in the coming week? No, I'm just going to get slowly back into training. Now I've been going to get slowly back into training and then head down to the Perth Marathon Festival this weekend on Sunday and um cheer on the runners. Watch the finish line.
01:02:37
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Nice. Nice. Yes, I too will be at Melbourne. I believe I am on the, I'm biking around to make sure they actually do the personal drink stations right. Because in previous years for a lot of the personal drinks, they've literally just chucked all the drinks in a bucket and put it on a table,
01:02:53
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which Personal drink stations are for the preferred runners, which are running quite fast, and they're not about to run up to a bucket and dig through for their drink. So that's one of the biggest like things that they've had ah feedback on of going, guys, why offer personal drinks if it's a bucket on a table?
01:03:09
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um So I think I'm on making sure that actually happens. So... Don't hate me if something goes wrong, but I'm going to try. um Otherwise for me, it's another week of rest. Calendar's clear.
01:03:20
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Just trying to get the body back in order. So that leaves us, oh, well look at us just doing a perfect hour. What? um That is leaves us for episode 78. Thank you so much for listening. That went all the weird and wild and wonderful ways that I never have learned to not expect on this podcast. So if you do have any feedback, any questions, any follow-up, anything at all, um shoot us a message on our Instagram at peakpursuits.pod and um otherwise.
01:03:52
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Yeah, thanks for listening. Vlad, it's good to chat to you back on Aussie soil and both of us have good internet. No one dropped out. Success.
01:04:02
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And until then, guys, thanks for listening. We'll speak to you next week. See you, guys.