Biking Challenges and Rediscovery
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hello hello how are you good you're wearing your biking outfit yes i'm gonna go for a long ride today how long is long i think i might do 40 you signed me up for a 70 mile bike ride and i've ridden my bike three times well
00:00:22
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challenge yourself for once. Okay. Yes. Thank you. Thanks for the reminder. I was thinking, and I said this to you the other day, I've biked now inconsistently for sure, but like I started road biking, I don't know, 15 years ago, like when Marcus was small and I can't say I ever loved it. Yeah.
00:00:43
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And then I didn't bike for a long time and then I got back into it a few years ago. I remember sending you a picture of the bike I was buying in that moment as I was buying it, telling you I was basically quitting CrossFit and going to just to endurance. Where is that bike? That's my bike. Not the one that you're riding now. No, I'm borrowing someone's bike that's much better than that bike, but that bike is being tuned up. Um,
00:01:09
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And then, but like, so in the last few years and last year training for the half iron man, I still don't know that I like loved biking. Oh, you just did it because you had to. Yeah, I was like, well have to. And I liked the idea of it, but then when I would get out there, I'd kind of be like, and I'd like when I was done.
00:01:27
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But as you know, I struggled to like enjoy the process. Yes. And I guess the same thing for swimming. And what's really cool is lately I've been biking and swimming and I really enjoy it. Like I enjoy. What do you enjoy about it?
Mindset and Presence in Fitness
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I mean, like for biking, I think I enjoy the time, like even though we ride with a group here with other people.
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You're obviously not talking to people the whole time. Yeah. So you're like, I think right now, one of the things that's changed how much I enjoy it is focusing on, not focusing on, but using the breathing, using, being present, like all those things. Right.
00:02:08
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I think why I didn't enjoy it before was I was always anticipating. Yeah. Now I'm going to have to do it. Now there's going to be this. Oh my God. There's going to be a hill. There's going to be this. There's still 15 miles to go. Same thing with swimming. Oh my God. We have four sets of this. There's then there's going to be the fifties. Like there's so much anticipating. And I think I've struggled with that for a long time. Probably the same with CrossFit. Sure. Yeah. I mean, I think, I mean, yeah. Yeah. But for me, it kind of was a lot like paralysis. Yeah. So, um, yeah, it's kind of,
00:02:36
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We've talked obviously a lot and we're going to talk more about it today with like regards to fitness. What's kind of cool is like it doesn't really, I don't mean it doesn't matter because there's certain things we now know that do matter in terms of what you're doing movement wise. But whether it's biking or swimming or running or lifting or whatever, like it is really cool to be finding that
00:02:59
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waking up and being like, I really feel like doing this today. There's something physically, emotionally that's like calling me to like get out on the bike, have that time, breathing, irrelevant of its hills, flats, hoof of freaking cares. So that said, it's been, um,
00:03:19
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Well, I just think also just to speak to what you said, you're finally in a position because of the work you've been doing where you can listen and identify those signals. Right.
00:03:36
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I think people roll their eyes when we say you have to sort of do what you feel. That is not, when we talk about going with your feel, it's not, for some reason, there's just this default negative of like, oh, okay, I don't feel like working out today, so I'm not going to. And it's like, well, consider this. Maybe that is what you absolutely need.
00:04:02
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And that's not going
Listening to the Body and Flexible Routines
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to be every day. But like, if you, if you just say, no, fuck that I'm going to do, I'm going to be some hard motherfucker and not ever deviate and not feel, I will, I will guarantee you that that is a miserable existence. And what you've been doing.
00:04:24
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Because the days you feel like going hard, you go hard. Right. The days you're like, man, I don't know. I think maybe just like something easy or just nothing. Like you're honoring your body. You're working with your system. You're working with your state, but you're also honing the accuracy of that internal connection, which.
00:04:50
Speaker
That is exactly what you need when those moments of incredible adversity and challenge do arise. And hopefully they do arise because I'm going to tell you, and this is from my experience operating at a very high level for my entire life and specifically in the military.
00:05:10
Speaker
when it gets really, really hard, you better turn in. Like you, that is where you tap into the source of strength. That's like, wow, how did you do that? It's like, well, because I just let my true, like I let myself come out. Right. It's practicing where there's not risk so that when there is something at risk or at stake, I should say. But I think you're right that the initial phases of it, so how long,
00:05:36
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How long would you say it's been since I started or we started sort of trying to account for like how we feel or our state at least a year?
00:05:47
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About a year. Yeah, at least a year. So it's not, but that's, I think where we lose people as well is because people want to say, I'm going to now listen to how I feel and like, what do I feel? Right. It's like, well, now. But you're learning a new language. Right. Now I'm finally at the point where I can, can I, I am tuned into that because I've been, I've had plenty of days of
00:06:12
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not doing that, not connecting to the right thing or overshooting or saying, ah, I don't feel like working out, but I'm going to anyway. So it takes a while. But I think what's really for me, and I've talked about it before on the podcast, like what's really cool is I've obviously struggled with focusing on the external a lot. So like, let's just call it like my, my body. And I understand there's ebbs and flows and in a month from now it could be in a different place, but
00:06:41
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For me, at least in my experience, the more I focused also on how I look or my body composition or some of those externals, it sort of distracted me from, it was sort of, and you talk about the who and the what, and that's a tool that I think is like super powerful that we won't get into here today. But it's all about the what. And I think a lot of people can relate to that. Like I want to lose some weight.
00:07:11
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Okay. But like where I felt now that I feel the most comfortable and it's not a daily thought about like, how do I look? How do I look? Am I gaining weight? Am I bloated? Am I this? Am I that? It's because I've been focusing on the feeling and the who. Right. And to your point and why maybe not why we didn't record last week, but it's been a, for me at least it's been a challenging couple of weeks. Me as well. And yesterday we had a, an incident.
00:07:39
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We did not like you and me. No sitting at dinner. Yeah. At my dad's. Yeah. Because you didn't have power. We didn't have power. So like, okay, this is a great opportunity to connect with my dad. They get me dinner for us and going over there. I thought this can be nice. I'm going to have a glass of wine. I'm going to like really enjoy and just, I just needed night to just chill. Right.
00:08:04
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And in the middle of finishing dinner, I noticed that my engagement ring was missing the actual diamond. Yeah. It's gone. Don't know when I lost it. Don't know what happened. It was not a wonderful moment. No, I realized that.
Handling Adversity with Mindfulness
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And of course it's beyond just, as you said, a rock, a piece of the earth, obviously. Um, but we talked about it last night and I think that is,
00:08:34
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I think I'm learning as well. Now I didn't, I still struggled. It wasn't like, ah, no big deal. I got my mindset. So I'm good to go. But that could have probably turned into a much deeper hole. And to your point, like learning, learning to feel those things, to connect to like,
00:08:58
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in times of adversity, having practiced that, even for me today, like, okay, I need to back off a little bit. Like yesterday, I had worked really hard all day. In the past, I would have probably just continued down that I gotta keep going, gotta go, gotta go, and then ended up somewhere not ideal. But today, being like, okay, I can still get work done.
00:09:18
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what's the best, what do I need today? I'm like, okay, I need to go out and ride, have some time by myself, not crush myself, not destroy myself on a sled, but just have some time to like breathe and move and connect. But that's the thing, you, like one, you can't control, you can't undo the diamond slipping out of the ring.
00:09:48
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But in the past, you, me, many others, we try to make up for that after the fact and change something that is not up to us to change. Like what do you mean? So in this example. Okay. So.
00:10:05
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The diamond or whatever is gone. The diamond is gone. No idea where it is. That said, if you're in Bernardsville and you find a diamond. If you find a diamond, let us know. I'm not going to make a joke about that right now. Let's not. Let's keep going. The diamond's gone. Okay. Diamond's gone.
00:10:25
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You take that and you internalize it. You beat yourself up over it. You take something that is a what, which is an observable event and you internalize it and make it into the who that you are.
00:10:38
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Irresponsible. Irresponsible. Unlisten that, blah, blah, blah. And you internalize it and you make it all about you. And it's like, it is not. Sleep, you wake up that feeling of like, motherfucker, like that diamond, like, oh, it's not on your nightstand. The tooth fairy didn't drop it off. Like the empty ring is still there. I'm going to.
00:10:58
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fill a void or patch a wound through self-punishment via the tools that I know, the tools that you know, fitness, the tools that some know, alcohol, whatever, you know what I mean? Work, whatever it is. Like any sort of outlets that you know. You're choosing something and trying to fill a hole with the wrong thing. Yeah, and it's like you're trying to change something that cannot be changed.
00:11:25
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And then the, the, the kind of messed up part is like, when you start moving your body, you start releasing chemicals, you start to feel things. And so we can kind of cover it a little bit and then go back to that. Well, and then back to that well. And then six months later, you haven't actually changed the thing. You haven't come to grips and accepted without trying to change. Yes, that happened. The diamond slipped out of the ring period. And so.
00:11:54
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then it's just this more, and that thing is still there. And so if you don't work on listening to yourself, if you don't work on being curious about the internal signs and signals that are telling you something that you absolutely need to know because it is real, then there's no way you're going to 12 hours later, be able to say, Hey, you know what? This happened.
00:12:23
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I accept it. I don't like it, but I also know it's done. And today right now is what matters. And how do I kind of climb out of this hole? Well, you listen to yourself and you do honor yourself. And if you listening to yourself is like, yeah, I'm feeling like I want to go just crush the sled.
00:12:48
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Okay, where's that coming from? It's not that the sleds wrong or the bikes wrong and I think that's where people look to They're looking at that as like the
00:13:01
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end state is this the right decision and I've done that for a long time and it's like well there's no right or wrong it's just where is it coming from yeah that's the question so and it's a language like you're learning the language of yourself right of your state I think it's hard for people to imagine that they are so out of touch I mean that's accepting and not judging that you might be really out of touch with that language with yourself like you're literally
00:13:27
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not speaking the same language as yourself and it's like okay it's an opportunity to learn not just you know what it's like you know what it's like it's like when you're when when if you've ever been in a foreign country or there's ever been somebody who doesn't speak your native language that you're trying to converse with and you're trying to tell them
00:13:48
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speak slowly. And all of a sudden they're looking back at you like, and they're nodding up and down and you're like, ah, you're nodding, but you have no idea what I'm saying. And then you start to, and then you speak slower and then you start yelling at them. Like, because there was, as if it was a, as if it was a question of volume and it's like, something's just not going, right? And then they go off and they do whatever. And you're like, okay, that's not what I asked you to do.
00:14:14
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But that's very much how it works with us as well. There's not that alignment and there's not that translation between what is my body internally saying to me, which you don't get to choose. Like so much of the stuff that happens, you think you're in control and all of, you know, control your thoughts and this and that. It's bullshit. There's so much of it that you don't and for good reason, you know, you don't want to have to consciously and rationally
00:14:39
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Remember to have your heartbeat remember to have your heartbeat. You're gonna forget. Yeah, or like for insulin, you know diabetics Like you really want to be monitoring rationally the sugar levels in your blood and then releasing No, like there's so that's the magic of the body, but it is always telling us something The thing is where we can override it and we can override it with the story the state and the story can often be a
00:15:06
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the you talking to somebody in a foreign language and that's the path and that's the pursuit and that's all of this stuff and you know yeah it's not a simple thing but it's it's one that takes practice but when you do work on it then you're able to be like wow I think step one is just learning that to begin with like oh this is how that works start listening so today we are going to talk about all this to sort of lead up to
Fitness Upgraded: Evolution and Personalization
00:15:35
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I'm nasal breathing leading up to our this concept of like fitness upgraded. Yes. So obviously the between the ears between the ears fitness. Yes. That arm of between the ears is getting set to open physical location.
00:15:54
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and online, which is kind of exciting. Um, and some of the, and I, and I don't like this word, but it is what it is. Like some of the marketing, some of the messaging, the branding, we have this, we felt like the fitness upgraded. That's like a really good way to describe all these words and all these concepts that we're trying to say in one succinct way. So in your words,
00:16:22
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in the simplest, fewest words possible for our listeners, Bill. What does that mean, fitness upgraded to you? I really want to use my metaphor with the phone. Oh, God.
00:16:40
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You can use the phone, fine. I think you've actually used it before on here. I don't know. Fitness upgraded to me and where we're sort of looking at it and why we went with, you know, upgraded is because there's progress and there's evolution and there's building upon what already exists. There's not, it's not elevation as in putting other people or things or pursuits down.
00:17:07
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it's just continuing to learn and grow and evolve and get better. And that's why we said upgrade it. So to use as an example, like 15 years ago, people had little digital cameras and that was all the thing. They had websites where you would upload your digital camera photos and then you'd be like, oh, here it is. And you'd put it on your instant messenger profile. And that's how you sort of, that was the thing.
00:17:38
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And then all of a sudden they put a little, you know, eight pixel-y thing camera on a phone. It's like, why would I, this is so stupid. Why would I take this crappy picture that I can barely see when I've got this awesome digital camera and can take a bunch and blah, blah, blah texting? Why would I punch into my phone?
00:18:01
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All of the, like the letter five times to send this text and just call me and tell me like, Hey, we're going to the coffee at whatever, whatever. Well, now.
00:18:13
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It's like, don't call me, just text me. And now the phones, the iPhone one to the iPhone 10 or whatever we're on. Now it's like the phone, the camera is the, is the selling point. The camera now is like, Oh, it's a better camera. I'm going to get that phone. The phone itself hasn't. So that is something that we need to do in the fitness industry. What I think is interesting is two points about that one, obviously the,
00:18:40
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the technology got more advanced, the product got better. We'll say better, you know, but the other thing is what you're highlighting is like texting, for instance, when it first came out, people thought this is the dumbest thing. We've always just called people, why would we do this? Now it's like, of course, like you said, why would you call someone? So whenever there is something that is an upgrade, a little bit new, initially people, well, I guess it could go both ways, but there is a little bit of like, I just like the old way.
00:19:09
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I've heard, I've heard, you know, some rumblings or whatever, and some of it is about the writing and the journaling. And it's like, oh yeah, just fucking write down your stuff. And it's like, yes, that's right. No pun intended.
00:19:25
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Yeah, but it's like in because right now it's not pop it's getting there but no one is telling you to do this. There's one other person actually and I don't I used to be involved not involved. I used to follow along back in the day There's one other person who is actually Encouraging this and they've been they've been doing it for for a little while and that is the seal fit guys. Mm-hmm
00:19:54
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And why is that? Well, because Mark Devine is definitely not. He's, his influences come more from the East. And so he gets a lot more things. He's been talking about some of this stuff for a while. Anyway, the writing, which we've been doing for a year, ever, pretty much in years.
00:20:17
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is not something that people, it's so easy to scoff at, it's so easy to laugh at, it's so easy to judge. And it's frankly, it's like, you're pathetic. When I see and when I hear some of these like little jokes and stuff like that, oh yeah, just roll, I should journal about it. It's like, right, you should, you absolutely should. And it's the same way, it's being attacked.
00:20:42
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As this stupid thing that because you don't maybe understand or you're not ready to accept and that's fine, but in five years I'm telling you
00:20:52
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Everyone's gonna be doing it everyone if you care about yourself you will do you will combine movement and Journaling and you don't have to be part of between the ears for that Be a client. You don't have to do any of that. Just know I'm gonna pull the old Mark Goodwin right now just know that That is what we've been saying
00:21:18
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And there are people who are learning so much about themselves by simply writing down and listening to themselves. And so anyway, that's not all of the upgraded stuff. That's just one of them where it's akin to the texting.
00:21:36
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This is stupid. Why would I do that? So we've seen that, obviously we've talked about it and it's not to judge or anything. There are people that are a little more resistant to some of the changes, some of the upgrades, some of the system upgrades, I would say it's like incorporating nasal breathing.
00:21:56
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you know, kind of connecting to like where you're feeling. But one of the things I think for us that's upgraded, that's really tangible and like, okay, this is the meat and potatoes of it is how we're programming the workouts, what kinds of workouts we're programming, like the user experience. So currently, just briefly, most people at this point, if they are part of a fitness program,
00:22:25
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whether that's a cycle class, whether that's a CrossFit class, orange theory class, whatever it is, they show up, they get told what to do on that day. Yes. The calendar determines what they do. And so for CrossFit, that could be a 40 minute AMRAP. It could be a five minute, you know, crazy sprint thing. Like that's determined by the gym and the coach. And that's what we do at most generally speaking at Morristown as well. Yeah. You can have a little bit of flexibility, but it's not exactly like if the class is doing,
00:22:55
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barbell cleaning jerks for five minutes. You can make some adjustments there, but you're not going to have one person be doing a 40 minute flow session with running and no, you're stuck with these constraints. Right. So what we're saying is we would like to
00:23:13
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get away from that because we don't feel like that makes sense for the individuals. It makes zero, it makes absolutely zero sense. And I think this is one of the things that I feel very, very strong about. It's a different model. It's a different product. It's, I'm not going to, when we go to, when you go to across it,
00:23:37
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And let's just say the workout is Amrap 15, five clean and jerks, two rounds of Cindy and a 400 meter run. Great workout. Great workout. Love that workout. Well, it's like, I can't do that.
00:23:52
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It's like, okay, let's start. You'll scale it, scale it for your skill level, right? So maybe you do, you know, lightweight, you do ring rows, maybe you do kettlebell swings, maybe you do whatever. And then maybe, you know, you instead of running 400, you run 200. Well, why do we scale? And somehow, somehow a lot of crosswinds don't understand this. You scale to preserve the entire, the desired stimulus and develop the skill. Right.
00:24:18
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The desired stimulus, though, the purpose of the workout is still being prioritized. That's a great workout.
00:24:30
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but not for everyone and not for everybody that wakes up on Tuesday. So why then would somebody who comes in and says, well, I've got like, I am just dog tired, but I do want to do something.
00:24:48
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You're not going to preserve the stimulus of that Why wouldn't you? Well, there's a whole weekend that's beyond the scope of this but likewise somebody who's like Yeah, I want to absolutely go crazy, but I don't really but my clean and jerk isn't really all that good
00:25:06
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And I don't, you know, like, I don't want to do the skills getting in the way. So it's like, okay, well then develop a skill. It's like, right. So with what, like an unloaded barbell, you're not going to get the stimulus. So a lot of that is like, okay, it doesn't really make sense.
00:25:26
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But instead of saying, all right, that's a great workout that you should do, but you should do it kind of on your terms, so to speak.
00:25:39
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Versus you're going to do that today because what happens somebody sees that and they're like, I can't do that. I don't feel like doing it. Screw it. I'm not going to do anything today. Or then they're cut into the wild to make up their own thing, do their own thing. And that's fine if you know what you're doing, but a lot of people don't. And that's why you pay a coach or a gym to be, to be guided. So.
00:26:02
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There's also the piece of, we've heard this from people and it's true and we've experienced it probably ourselves. While the group, while there's value to having a group and between there's fitness when we're post COVID, we will have a small group being able to be in the gym training at the same time.
00:26:22
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to like encourage that energy and you know, it's camaraderie. Yeah. But what we've experienced is someone comes in, whether they're just trying class for the first time or they're saying to us, Hey, I really kind of feel like this today. And we say, great, you're going to do that. Substitute something. They get carried away with the group and they don't, they're not able to preserve their own
00:26:46
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like what they had set out to do. So there's a lot of these sort of pitfalls. So what we're saying for fitness upgraded is we want to take, like there's, like you said, there's nothing wrong with that workout. That workout might be one of the workouts in between the ears fitness for a given week.
00:27:04
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but you're gonna select the day that that workout makes sense. And then if you're not, you know, we're not really focusing on high school movements like that. A sandbag clean would probably be a great thing for someone that's like, man, I have not really done a barbell. I don't love barbell work. It hurts my wrist every time, whatever it is. But I really wanna like, and we wanna get whatever the perfect hip extension, all this stuff and like really being aggressive. Great, grab a sandbag.
00:27:33
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Perfect. So that's one thing is making sure that the day aligns with that individual or that workout aligns with the individual, not the day of the week that's set. You are the priority. The workout is the priority with group fitness and with CrossFit, with Orange Theory, with social. The workout is the priority. You get in line and you do it.
00:27:57
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That doesn't make any sense to me. And I get it. There's that whole thing of like, well, we program for the best and we scale for the rest. And it's like, well, who are the best?
Strength Training and Muscle Connection
00:28:07
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And I don't think, and I think one of the reasons that that has come to be is one that was, I think we were in like a decade of the high intensity being the thing.
00:28:18
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in the fitness industry. If you go back to the eighties, there was a different thing during that time, the nineties, it was step aerobics, it was group exercise. Like every, like that's how fitness is gone. It's evolved, hit training really was like the past decade. That was like the big thing. That is where orange theory came in and all this stuff. Um, and understood that for that model, like we can't take 20 people.
00:28:39
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and have them each doing their own thing really like that's not really the model so that is why we've created a new model so and we're looking at like well okay I think we're all as an industry we need to be looking at like a new what's what where are we going because hit we're seeing now like oh there are some things about hit that need to be
00:29:04
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accounted for and what we know it does the body and all that stuff. So one is understanding that it's custom to the person, not the workout, not the day of the week. Two is like, I think it's a good transition to the types of workouts. So instead of hit really every day, high intensity training every day, what does between the ears kind of, if we're looking at a week of workouts, what's that upgrade look like?
00:29:31
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Yeah, so you're going to do a couple workouts a week where you focus on actually using the muscles that are intended to be used during the movements. So making that muscular connection, you could call it strength, you could call it contract, you like contraction, I don't like that, but like not necessarily bodybuilding, but like it's more about targeting the musculature and connecting to it and using it.
00:30:02
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How does that differ from, just because I think we understand things that maybe people don't. So if I said like from a, well, I do deadlifts. So would that be a deadlift? Well, maybe. You might be doing deadlifts. We'd look at more so what's supposed to be working on the deadlift. 90%, I don't know. I'm not going to use a number because I don't know. The majority of people use your back. The majority of people, after deadlift, they're like, ah, man, my back. It's like, well, deadlifts are supposed to be for your legs. What's going on? Why are you using your back? Well, I deadlifted.
00:30:31
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Uh-huh, yeah, but how did you deadlift? And did you, like, you just did a hip extension or a back extension or whatever, and it's like, well, what is the deadlift supposed to do? Okay, some hamstrings include some quads. Great, that's what we're gonna work on today. How we go about doing it might be a deadlift, might not. Might be with kettlebells or dumbbells. Might be with one of them. You might go from the, you might go from, you know, like, you know, light, going, working the top down.
00:30:59
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The deadlift itself, great movement. That's a great goal to reach. How do you do it? So looking at the muscle groups and saying, we want to prioritize that, develop those things so that we can effectively, safely, efficiently perform the movement. And so, for example, in the squat, this is like the thing, like put your heels down.
00:31:27
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That's not, you don't go to the gym to work on putting your heels down. How do you have to do that? What do you have to develop?
00:31:36
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Well, you got to develop your glutes, you got to develop your hamstrings, you got to work on your hips. Which is not doing more squats. And it's definitely not facing the fucking wall and doing squat therapy. That doesn't do it. And this is one of those things like teaching them at level ones. It's like, oh, look, I got the person. It's like this magic trick. It's like, yeah, but it wasn't actually real.
00:31:57
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Like I know what they did. And so some of that is just having the individual focus again, be like, okay, your glutes and your hamstrings need to work. We have to do things that don't look like high intensity movements. They don't look like more wobbles or more, more squats.
00:32:16
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They might look more and why we say like you can use the word bodybuilding and you know it's sort of weird that it's gotten like it's a weird name but more traditional isolating movements so like yeah it might be a place for a hamstring curl or something like that so we're not looking at it could be a more complex movement but that depends on the individual so for those days and I do think it's interesting because it's not a
00:32:43
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it's a different type of intensity and that's what's cool is like you can we've had plenty of days where we do like four movements and I'm like completely wiped it's just different from metabolic conditioning well and here's the other thing with that my mechanics have got my squat mechanics have gotten in so much better
00:33:07
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You know, what's funny that I just thought about, and I probably shouldn't say this, it's kind of a, it's a thing, but since you already dinged the squat therapy, remember in the level one, how they say like you can't hamstring curl and squat, you know, like press your way to a better squat. It's like, you can actually, right? Like that's, that's kind of a silly thing to say, like, yes, for a lot of people, and we've seen 12 years of it.
00:33:34
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the gym it's not like you said with the heels down the people that we're working with it's not for a lack of intelligence they don't know what we're saying we're not speaking a different language to that point oh you mean get my heels down oh I thought you were saying something else yeah it's that they can't and the reason they can't is they don't have they haven't developed that and doing more of the same and being told you're doing it wrong
00:34:00
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is not getting that person any closer. So yes, there is a place for this specific development of muscles. But using the level one thing, and I think where it's so crossfit with their arrogance,
00:34:16
Speaker
Really, I mean, I don't really care because it's I'm sick of it. Like I'm honestly there's such a there's such an elitism Especially from the level one community where they look you're constantly being touted as being the best trainers in the world and there are some phenomenal trainers and
00:34:36
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Absolutely. On the staff. On the staff. Incredible. There are some of the best. There are some of the best who have absolutely no interest in being on the Level One staff. There are some on Level One staff who suck. Yeah. Who are like... Who don't know any... If they applied to work, I'd be like, no, absolutely not. Yeah. You're nice. You can get a coffee, but no. Anyway. The arrogance.
00:35:04
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So it's like you can't hamstring curl and leg press your way to a better squat. And it's like, well, one, that's like talking about two completely different things. If you're doing a, let's just say a workout, normal conditioning kind of cross workout. Yeah, you wanna probably do the squat.
00:35:27
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You want to do like reps for time of hamstring curls into leg press, but the hamstring curl and the leg press.
00:35:36
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develop a musculature involved in the squat. So you do actually do that. Now you don't do it. Well, here's the thing though, but we're, what we package a 15 to 20 minute workout and say, it's going to drastically change your health. And yes, for many people, yeah. You know what it changes? It changes their relationship to fitness where now they feel like they're involved in it because
00:36:01
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strapping into the hamstring curl machine or the, or, or the, you know, leg press where you're getting crushed by weight and you have to press it out. Like one, not everyone has to know how or access to that equipment. And two, yeah, it's kind of boring, but you want to do the hamstring curl and leg press. Not that we're going to get a leg press, but like you want to target those muscles in a way that develops the connection, that develops the strength.
00:36:28
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that allows you to utilize them effectively when you're doing the workout.
Breaking Plateaus with Variety and Intentionality
00:36:33
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So. Yeah. And I think the other thing, because I think I am, as you know, one of the people that like I do not want to have a boring workout. Like that's like I want to be engaged. I want it to be fun. Yeah. Well, that's OK. Like that's one of the things and you don't care about fun and you're boring. And so like that's fine. And I just don't want anybody listening, thinking like, man, it's going to just be this boring stuff.
00:36:56
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I think what's cool where we're, what we've developed is like, it's not what we know now too.
00:37:03
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is there's so many ways to develop that stuff that are different, that are more engaging. It's not just the leg press and the hamstring curl. So there's a lot of options for developing that stuff. And there is a lot of benefit to like the whole system to getting those connections to the muscles, which I mean, I can say for myself, I deadlifted how many reps of deadlifts in the 10 years I did CrossFit. I never felt my hamstrings or my glutes. So, you know, having,
00:37:34
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alternatives and getting that connection to those muscles. There's, there is a lot of value to that from a, yeah, not just like, Oh, it's boring, but I got to do it. Kind of the homework stuff. It can be interesting. There are a lot of cool things that we're bringing to the table, a lot of different movements, implements to make it engaging. It's not just this boring, like blah, blah, blah. The other, the other thing I just wanted to say with the, the problem or the pitfall and to your point, sure. People who.
00:38:05
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haven't been exercising and find CrossFit. And now like you said, they changed their relationship to fitness. That's great. That's a great starting point. Yeah. The problem that we've seen, and we can say this because it's been 12 years is it starts to go backwards. So like now people who've been doing it a while, man, I'm not seeing any results. I'm not seeing the progress. I don't love this anymore. It's because quite honestly, like, yeah, like,
00:38:33
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Your body is not adapting. There's nothing that's changing. There's no, that's a good point to, I think trying to get back into like, okay, what does it mean to upgrade? When was the last time you did?
00:38:50
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Turkish get-ups. When was the last time you did landmine stuff? When was the last time you did single leg stuff? When was the last time you actually went heavy on a sandbank? When was the last time you didn't hold the bar in a front squat and did zombie squats? When was the last time you did tempo work? When was the last time? When was the last time you changed your grip? When was the last time you said, I'm going to, I'm going to not skip
00:39:15
Speaker
or not drop the deadlift from the top or not drop the deadlift from the top or pause at the bottom of the pushup. When was the last time you were intentional? But then you can't go fast. Exactly. It's all the one, one dimensional fast fast fast. And that's the thing. If you know that, that goes back to that little sage thing of like, yeah, and if Henry Ford was interested in making people go faster, he would have tried to build a faster horse and said he built a car. And when we look at upgraded,
00:39:46
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There are so many movements that are beneficial that we don't do. And it's like, why not? Well, yeah, you're not going to go fast doing them. Like I wouldn't recommend doing Russian twists in the three, two, one, go. But are you really going to tell me that there's zero room for rotation work? If you're telling me that, which let's be honest, a lot of trainers do.
00:40:11
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You're an idiot. You're an idiot. Like you don't get it. You don't you haven't spent the time to actually learn your craft either. And I think so. That's the thing with to get away from. And I think it's hard for us. We really try to not. It's not a comparison. We're not trying to say.
00:40:31
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We're really not trying to point fingers and say, this sucks, that sucks. But it's almost impossible to not highlight, yes, what is broken. There are some things that are broken. So the speed we've seen, and I always use myself because I've been there, and using the speed as an example of,
00:40:53
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That is the only thing and the movements kind of don't matter. It's the same feeling every day. In a lot of these workouts, you're just subbing out a squat for a swing, for a pushup, for a pull up, but it feels the same. It looks the same. The priority is the same and that will produce the same results, which eventually will be no results. So we're trying to say, okay, we're changed that.
00:41:13
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to get back to that. There's two, about two workouts a week. These are the workouts that we provide in a week. Yeah. So everybody doesn't have to do all of them, but there's so generally speaking, generally speaking, you're going to work. Generally speaking, you're going to work one bit. One day it's going to be upper body. One day it's going to be lower body.
00:41:29
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Within that, what are you gonna do? Well, you're gonna do a little bit of warmup, you're gonna do some of that thing, and then you're gonna do something either a conditioning or a stamina, that's what I call it. And it's like, you're gonna practice that. So the strength part of it, it's not gonna always be like, you know, five by five or something super heavy. You're gonna work on that, you're gonna be like, all right, yeah, like I worked that muscle. And then, because I also recognize, we recognize that like, you don't just wanna do a warmup, do a couple things with strength, and then leave.
00:41:59
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There's a place to practice it. You can practice it with a little bit of an elevated heart rate, but you're also going to do it within the focus of grooving that better pattern. It's not going to be for three, two, one, go time. It's not. Yeah.
00:42:20
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It'll still be challenging, for sure. And it'll be, and I'm not fun, but it will be a fun workout. We're like, damn, this was challenging. I had to pay attention to this. And this was different. And that'll be on your upper and your lower day. So that's two days a week. So that's two days a week.
00:42:35
Speaker
There's going to be one day a week where it's like you're going to push as hard as you possibly can. 100%. That's what you're going to push 100%. You're going to leave no doubt that you gave your 100%. So when we think about upgrading fitness,
00:42:56
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If you're a hundred percent is not Thursday and it's Tuesday, then you do that on Tuesday. You know, for example, uh, if you just spent, you know, however long on a work trip.
00:43:12
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And you come back and you're like, and you want to get back into your, I want to get back into my routine. Like, and what do we do a lot of day one back punish yourself, punish yourself, crush yourself. And it's like, well, what are you trying to prove man? Like that, like that's one of the questions. So anyway, that is going to be the day and you're going to go as hard. Now we are going to provide you resources and encouragement, coaching and workouts to push as hard as you possibly can.
00:43:38
Speaker
In the safest way in the safest way with nothing getting in the way no skill Like you're not you're not pushing as hard as you can doing a snatch right or doing a handstand push-up you're So what does that look like simple movements? Sandbags sled sled bike swings like things that are fairly simple
00:44:04
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that skill and complexity are not going to get in the way, nor are they going to be risky. And those will involve a warm up, kind of making sure that those muscles are also warm. And then those actual workouts, though, this is where I think people get confused, sort of like, well, the hardest day possible. All right, that's going to be a 50 minute grinding workout. No.
00:44:28
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This is like bringing your full intensity and what we do know if we're talking about pure intensity or like one of the like from a power output standpoint if we're going from that is like shorter will produce more of that. So what we're looking for on those days is like you shouldn't be able to do 10 sets of a sled. No, then you didn't do it. Right. Right. So I think where that kind of has gone awry and again, not to get down that path, but just
00:44:56
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People don't quite, nobody's really going at 100% these days. It's all 82% across the board, no matter if it's five minutes, 10 minutes. So for this day, it's not a lot of volume. We're making sure you're really warmed up and there's nothing getting in the way of you and pushing that day. So it's a really, that's really the most important day to make sure you're,
00:45:22
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you are having that connection. Like, and you know, kind of today, today's the day. If you have a doubt or like, I don't know, it's probably not the day. Yeah. And, and I think that, I think the thing is like, not every single day, cause I'm sure people are like, well, what if I just feel kind of neutral? That's fine. Then you feel neutral. Then we're going to have a little assessment and then pick one. What do you want to do? Imagine that doing what you want to do when it comes to your fitness. So, and I think just to clarify from a logistics, these workouts,
00:45:52
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We are writing these workouts. They're there for everybody. There's these two upper body, lower body, a high intensity.
00:46:00
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put them in. It's that week you choose that one. You're not having to, what do you want to do today? So, so now we have this upper body, lower body. Those are days that generally, yeah. If you feel kind of neutral, a little bit of like, yeah, they're good. They're fine. They're also critical to your development. Yeah. Then you have this like go hard, go crazy, work out. Push yourself. Three days. I think the other end of that one is a day
00:46:26
Speaker
Well, you can kind of proceed. So we have those three days. What's next? So then another type of workout. So the upper body, lower body, we're going to call like a block days. Then there's the level 10 blackout. And then there's the more, you know, endurance aerobic capacity type of a workout.
Endurance and Consistency in Workouts
00:46:46
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So there's no loading, uh, other than your own body weight on the, on the machinery, but it's like more of a cardio day.
00:46:52
Speaker
bike, row, run, you know, swim, anything like that. Yeah. Ski if you have one, but like you're just doing a monostructural element. You're doing a cardiovascular element. It's going to be a little bit longer. It might be, might be like longer for time, only nasal breathing. It might be interval work, but trying to maintain a pace, but it's going to be more in that not high, it's not going to be high intensity, but it's not going to be like a walk around the block recovery kind of workout.
00:47:22
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So it's going to be on that lower intensity, consistency, building your aerobic base.
00:47:32
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Those are like the, that's like the B block days. Go crazy. Don't go crazy. Only do kind of cardio. But it's still, there's, I think just to clarify too, there's still effort there. It's not. Well, of course there's effort there. Right. It's. Yeah. It's like what traditionally, if you talk, look at an endurance. Well, if you want to know about it, zone two. Google zone two and you can look. But there's a very specific.
00:47:53
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We kind of help guide people into like what that should feel like whether it's via how they feel their heart rate There's some there's some data there that kind of helps determine that but that's so that's that B block And then what else is left? The C block they'll be your normal your your more traditional conditioning high intensity or your you know mixed modality Yeah, and so that'll be something that
00:48:21
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For sure. You want to, that is where you'd want to pace a little bit. You'd want to have some consistency. You want to definitely pay attention and you know, look, if you're, if you enjoy those types of workouts, then great. They'll be, they'll be awesome for you. And then there's a lot of variety we can do, but what we're doing is we're categorizing and compartmentalizing.
00:48:45
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not compartmentalizing, but we're categorizing movements and putting them in the appropriate buckets with the appropriate applications versus trying to cram everything into a 15 minute. And so how we go about doing that, there's also, okay. So it's like, well, what's the difference between that and maybe some other program? Okay.
00:49:10
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There are fundamental differences that happen to you internally, mentally and emotionally. When you do, when you train this way, you going on a, you doing three 10 minute intervals on the bike where you only breathe through your nose and you try to work at eight breaths a minute. That's going to be a totally different internal stimulus.
00:49:36
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then when you put everything you have into, we'll just stay with the bike in case you don't have the sled, because we talk about the sled a lot.
00:49:46
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you're gonna go 10 calories as fast and as hard as you can until you can't, until you, yeah, basically until you blackout, or until, you know, X, Y, and Z happen. So we'll say, look, if it takes you, you're gonna do 10 calories, and that's gonna take you, we'll just say 10 seconds.
00:50:06
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You're gonna do that every minute until that 10 seconds turns into 12 seconds 15 seconds, whatever I can't do it That is going to be a totally different mental and emotional environment Even though they're both the bike even though they're both the bike
00:50:23
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Likewise, when you focus on making that muscular connection, developing that, that's a different environment. It's not just about the physical. With between the ears, it's never just about the physical. The physical is just a convenient excuse we have to work on the other stuff. That's where getting back to it, how do you start to speak the language of yourself?
00:50:48
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Well, physical workouts provide essentially the map for us to do that. What's funny is when you look at, let's just say documentaries that people tout or buy into, like even, um,
00:51:04
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You know, anything about an endurance athlete, some like even the Lance Armstrong, looking at these feats of like, and we'll just take endurance or even the guy, the climbing, um, free solo and like, and people watch those and they totally get watching those. No question. Anybody watching those. If you were to pull people and be like, Hey, is it physical? Yes. Is it mental? Yes. They totally get that, that there is a.
00:51:32
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a mental component to all these people's efforts. But somehow when we bring it down to just like normal people, people now don't think like, Oh yeah, well, there's no, it's just physical. And it's like, no, even though they're operating, obviously, just like they're operating physically at a different level than us. Yes. It requires also maybe operating different level with mindset.
00:51:55
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But those two components still exist even on a normal recreational person. They're not different humans. They're not a different species of human. So I think we can all agree to that and we all buy into it. But for some reason when we bring it down and what's funny about CrossFit is that was one of those initial things.
Physical and Mental Growth in Fitness
00:52:14
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Oh, it's more than just a workout.
00:52:16
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So people are kind of bonded, but somehow it kind of just went back to just being about this workout and proving something. So it is almost, it is almost mental, but very limited and almost detrimental both in the physical because it is both in the physical and mental because it's so limiting. It doesn't have enough variety. It doesn't take into account enough things to really develop that person physically or mentally. And we're saying,
00:52:43
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Nothing wrong with those workouts. In fact, those should be part of a more comprehensive program that builds the person physically and emotionally and mentally. And the other thing I want to say though is even though you're saying, of course, the physical is a tool to use for bettering ourselves as humans. I mean, that's why we're, nobody does fitness because they want to like be shittier as a human. I think it's really cool to look at
00:53:10
Speaker
to your point, how you can work with different people with different goals. Most of us just want to be generally fitter, look better, feel better. But when you start to look at an endurance athlete, a person training for this, training for that, there is so much with this that you can customize to that person. Whereas to be honest, if a person came to our CrossFit gym and said, Hey, I want to train for an ultra
00:53:38
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whatever, or like an endurance event. That wouldn't like, yeah, maybe, maybe there wouldn't really be a place for them there. Whereas that between there's fitness, you look at from the physical side, the breathing, heart rate, stuff, different kinds of things, mindset. There's so much there to develop that person. Yeah, because it's built upon you and there's nothing inherently wrong with CrossFit.
00:54:05
Speaker
It's just not, it's not for everybody because it's, it's, it's, it's quote unquote for everybody. And when you try to do everything, you wind up doing nothing. When you try to be something for everyone, you're nothing for everyone. And that's kind of the thing. It's fine for a generalist sort of thing. Yes, it helps. It has transformed millions of lives, myself included. And I love that. And that's great.
00:54:35
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Can it evolve? Absolutely. If we're saying that we have reached the pinnacle of evolution and we have mastered the fitness landscape and 20 years ago, because we'll say when it came about, that's it.
00:54:59
Speaker
That is so sad to me that it's like, so 20 years ago, if we were to look at, if we just said, we got it, we got to figure it out. I'm somebody who never has it figured out and I'm not anyone special, but like we figured it out. Really? That's it. And then when you look at like, when was the last time?
00:55:25
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Whatever. You know what I mean? It's just like, have we upgraded? Have we picked something that's amazing and incredible? And can we build upon it? Okay, yes, how? Building, building, and that's what we're saying, all these things. And even, yeah, I mean, what's crazy is you look back to like Jane Fonda, some of these people, like,
00:55:45
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Uh, what's this name? Richard Simmons. Like there's all these foundational things. Johnny G spinning that did what? You don't know these things here too. Yeah. And I was playing real sports, jumping around, looking at the TV. Like those have all set some groundwork. Like we have been building on those things. There's things that we take from those and like, that is great. Wow. That revolutionized the industry, et cetera, et cetera.
00:56:10
Speaker
And I think the one thing to say is there might be people that are, for sure, there are people still in the beginning journey of their fitness that are like, hey, right now, like I am seeing results going to a CrossFit gym. That's great. You will. You will. And like we said, we're not taking away from that. We're just saying that it's good to know that, like,
00:56:33
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there is a continuation of that journey. This is the continuation of the journey. There are people for sure who are just starting their journey who might want to start on this path and that's okay too. But there are also people we've experienced which kind of is where this began or had us questioning and exploring and especially for you because you were ahead of me in this.
00:56:59
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of like, what's next? What else is there? And that's why we need to continue learning and growing and upgrading. So it is exciting and our online, I think it's interesting to look at the online platform because there's tons of
00:57:21
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programming options for people who do CrossFit. You can find stuff for free, you can find stuff for 20 bucks a month where conditioning workouts, good ones, good programming, nothing against that. This is definitely a little bit different.
00:57:38
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It's giving you a little bit of that guidance, different kinds of workouts, a more comprehensive approach. We'll have monthly workshops, kind of three month nutrition things. Like there's that part of sort of being a part of an online gym, if you will. So that is the online gym, which is great for people that kind of are interested in this, who don't live here.
00:58:02
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And quite frankly, who can't just piece together, we know how challenging it is to like, okay, I want something else, but like, okay, what do I do today? So providing them the guidance. This is the other thing. And just because I have to say it.
00:58:19
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And I'll, I'll get, you know, ridiculed for it and told I'm wrong and all that. Just you. Well, by, by whomever. Again, the people probably aren't even listening to this. Why, why is it? Okay. Okay. That most CrossFit workouts share the same number combination.
00:58:45
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9 15 21 20 15 why why tell me about this I Know I mean and that's no, but I'm serious, but it's a serious question. Okay, and I think there's some of it that is just Steeped in like tradition. I mean and that's my answer. That's fine now the problem is and I you know that I'm guilty of this like it it would make me a little bit nauseous to program like
00:59:08
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Five seven twelve Because I mean because why the number no, no, but here's the deal Oh five plus seven equals
Programming and Personal Limits in Workouts
00:59:17
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twelve. Oh, yeah, that would work. Are you fucking kidding me? Seriously, that's we can't do We can't do things. What do we do 41? Or what is it like like?
00:59:31
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42 21. It's like, okay, well, that's a double up. And, and we start like the mathematical gymnastics, right? Well, this is, I know I'm going to be, I'm kind of, I'm serious, but I'm also kind of being silly, but I'm also asking the question, what's that all about? Why is it always multiples of seven five? Okay. And so here's my serious answer for you, which I think is a valuable thing to talk about. Cause we know we've put workouts up.
00:59:58
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And people have to write them down on the other side of the gym to remember them. Okay. At least if it's like multiples of seven for people, they can remember the multiples of seven. But then the question is, but why is the number so important? And then are you focusing on the movement or the counting? Exactly. And so that's a part where we've also said like, yesterday I heard someone was training, I was at the gym and someone was doing personal training. And our, our, the person training him was having him do like,
01:00:27
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To be honest, more strong man type, pulling a rope, doing some bicep curls. Um, but at one point the client was like, I lost count. And it was just such a funny thing. Cause it's like, yeah, it doesn't matter the number. And the trainer was like, just do five more. Like it really doesn't matter. But we get so ingrained in focusing on the numbers. And I've personally found in people who have been doing our programs, who've
01:00:53
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you've been coached by us, they are relieved when it's like just go for a minute, because then they can really focus on what they're supposed to be feeling and breathing, you cannot count breathe, feel
01:01:06
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Like all at once. So then what happens is everything goes by the wayside and the counting becomes a priority. Yeah. And I'm not saying that any workout shouldn't have numbers. Like I get it why you would say, okay, five, but what's the purpose of having someone do five? Should it be like heavy? Should it be, are you doing a lot of them? Like what's the deal with it? But, but my, my bone to pick is that,
01:01:35
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trainers, programmers, coaches, whomever, people making up their own workouts, prioritize a rep scheme that mathematically makes sense over the individual and the feeling of that set that again makes zero sense. Right. So.
01:02:02
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Is it like do it for a minute? Well, no, is do it for Thursday? No, because you don't want to be count, but like right now, what you can take away, how much in your workouts are you spent counting? How much time do you spend just trying to get to that last number? That is the outcome. Yeah.
01:02:21
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What are you not paying attention to in pursuit and prioritization of the outcome? Everybody talks about process, process, process. Where is it then? So if it's a function of saying, look, you're going to do 12 reps, but here's how those 12 reps should feel. But it's also like,
01:02:42
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All right looking at not just being bound to Well, I did this or I did and I think it's been cool to see as we've we have introduced some of this stuff in the gym and it's like the biggest success is when I And I remember specifically a sled workout teaching it with the gym and like a bike sled or something and we had said it's five rounds, but honestly like I
01:03:10
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three, four, five, like do not prioritize five rounds, goes hard as the end. And most of the people cut it at four. And it was like, great. Cause you were feeling like you weren't worrying about pacing. You weren't thinking like, I just have to do these five rounds. Um, you know, for you having, giving people some constraints like, Hey, when you come off the bar, like then that's.
01:03:30
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like not from a like holding on, but like going to fatigue. And so if you can't do another pull up, then that's the end of that set, those kinds of things. So I think that's- Well, because that's what happens. We'll say, okay, do 10 shoulder overhead. And then the last two just aren't even a shoulder overhead. No, it's just like you just, because your body also will make adjustments to get the work done. That's the amazing part about it. And what you sacrifice in doing that though,
01:04:00
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Yeah, that's where then you look at, well, you have dysfunctional movement, which leads to injury, which leads to this, which leads to that. And that's where I wonder about the injury, how much of it is in those last, those forced reps. It's not that doing a shoulder to overhead is dangerous. It's just when you now lose the actual
01:04:20
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correct mechanics, like using the right muscles and you just use your back to get eight, nine, but I feel like, um, we could probably continue for a long time, but I think the main things to kind of reiterate with the upgrade. Um, and I think it's a lot more conversations as we go. And certainly we would love to hear people's
01:04:43
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Sometimes for us, it's challenging because communicating it clearly does take some time because there's a lot of pieces, but basically it's aligning
01:04:58
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prioritizing the individual and having the workouts aligned with where they're at on that day, still providing actual workouts and guidance. What do I want to do today? Cause we know that that's impossible. Um, and having a more comprehensive approach to how the workouts feel.
01:05:16
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introducing new movements for sure in different ways of doing things, but it's more about the the how the the stimulus of that workout not having everything be one dimension. Yeah. And like if you don't want
01:05:31
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to learn a new movement. If you don't want to experiment with a different thing, if you just want to keep what it is you're doing right now and not change a thing, then keep doing what you're doing and that's okay. That's where it's like, if you don't want to upgrade your phone and you don't care about the new camera and you don't care about the better thing or you don't want a different size,
01:05:59
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If you're okay with where you're at, then don't upgrade your phone and that's okay. But what we're saying is like, Hey, just letting you know, you do take a lot of pictures of family events and this and that. And like, those are important to you. And if you'd like to take a better picture, there's an option for you. You do work hard physically. You do go to the gym. You do pay attention to what you're eating. You kind of do know that like, okay, I want to prove myself. I go to the gym to work really hard to improve myself.
01:06:27
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And right on. We want to channel that energy and say, hey, there's an upgraded way for you to get more out of that in a way that, yes, for years we've been, this isn't just like a good idea. This is like, no, no, no. Real human beings are receiving end of this and it is available. And I think the last thing that the tools that go into it that have been
01:06:49
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to your point, it's not just some fly by night, like, Oh, cool, people are doing this breathing thing. I mean, there's a lot of researching, experimenting on ourselves, using, you know, clients, like, there's so much that's gone into that putting all the pieces together in a way that
01:07:04
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people just want to come and also not have to figure it out themselves. We're helping by saying like, this is a tool for you. This is a tool for you, whether it's the breathing, whether it's the heart rate, the zones, the this and that. It is our job to be those, um, to be the professional and to bring that to people. Of course they have to have their own, they have to be engaged and involved, but people are lawyers, moms, doctors, accountants,
01:07:33
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They're not fitness professionals. That's our job to help guide them. So I think that's our, so we're excited and we're going to keep.
01:07:43
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moving forward. And I feel like we're close to the online piece being available, but pretty much September is the general starting point of, you know, it's been a little bit muddy with getting equipment because of the current state, but definitely September, if you are interested also, and you're not here, you want to learn about the online thing where we're, um, you know, we're collecting people's interests. I'm running actually a in-person, um,
01:08:11
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group in the Bernersville area outside starting in September. There's still the seminar, which now it's changed a little bit. It's changed a lot. Yeah, but that is. I'm not doing it individually with people anymore. But you can purchase it and do it, go through it on your own time, which is also kind of nice. There's a practice. So there's a lot going on.
01:08:35
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Yeah. I mean, look, I think that the thing is, is like, there's a lot of options and that can be sometimes like, Hey, what is the right way? What do I, you know, and I get this, like people like, Hey, can I talk to you and just figure out like, what the heck do you do? And it's like, there are a lot of options and there's a bunch of different things. Like I will say, um, one of the things I feel passionate about and how I want to serve is to provide opportunities for the individual to grow.
01:09:00
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period. How we go about doing that, and that's what my calling is, and I try to do that. Yes, it works. I absolutely know that because people do the work. If you're wanting to get involved, you're not really sure, blah, blah, blah.
01:09:15
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Yeah, shoot a message. We can discuss. Look, it's not clear for me or you and I to sometimes be like, okay, wait, what do we do? So obviously there might be some confusion from your end, which apologies in advance. Well, we have a comprehensive website also that's in the works that I think will be helpful for people to see it visually and kind of like, oh, I see how that works. So in the meantime,
01:09:43
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We'd love to hear questions on the gym, the fitness piece, you know, anything that comes up and help clarify that. And, you know, yeah. And if you find a diamond, just send it on over. Bye. Bye.