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Tackles and Tinnies Presents - The Fantasy Files - Finals W1 - E20: Records, Finals & Money Man Lessons 🏉🔥
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The regular season is done, and the boys are looking back at their biggest year yet.
💥 This Season in Review:
- . He overtakes Chris and won’t let him forget it. Ryan’s Chirping (nothing new) 😏. He finishes with an all-time best rank of 836 and drops his highest-ever weekly score of 1826 in Round 27.
- Chris Holding Strong 💪
Cracks the Top 1K, finishing at 939 overall, proving consistency is key. - Jake Survives 😅
Scrapes into the Top 17K, cops banter, but keeps swinging and promises to be better.
⚔️ Finals Footy Talk:
– Full breakdown of each finals game, lined up with Team List Tuesday.
– Ryan and Jake are riding with the Broncos, Chris is coping plenty of banter for wearing a Panthers hat after hopping off his Tigers.
– Debate heats up: Should Shark Park host finals with only 12k capacity? Ryan says no, Chris and Jake say yes — player advantage vs fan numbers. What are your thoughts? Drop them in the comments.
🐴 Titans Corner (of course):
The lads celebrate the Gold Coast avoiding the wooden spoon.
– Is AJ Brimson a centre now?
– Is Carter Gordon locked into the halves with JC?
Ryan beams like a proud dad.
📊 Strategy & Lessons Learned:
– Breaking down the new finals fantasy format: only two players per team, triple captain, double VC — play safe or swing for the fences?
– Chris stuns with his captaincy analysis, and Ryan is still buzzing over Walsh carrying him home.
– Key takeaways:
– Don’t pick good players in bad teams (unless they’re proven guns).
– Trades are priceless — is channelling your inner Money Man worth it early?
🔥 The boys wrap with a teaser for next week: Which proven guns are a must-have for 2026?
🎧 Listen now: https://linktr.ee/tacklesandtinnies
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Transcript
Podcast Introduction and Greetings
00:00:01
Tackles and Tinnies
Fresh crack of the 10, 2,341 ranking. That was okay Flora. She's gone rogue. The podcast has gone rogue. Gentlemen, it's fantastic to see you. Jakey, welcome back, my friend.
00:00:16
Jake
Mates, yes, I have gone AWOL for a little bit there, a bit MIA. It's wonderful to see you both, especially you, Chris. I see Ryan's mutt most weeks. So, yeah, but no, great to be back.
00:00:30
Jake
i'm Excited crack in as always. Yeah, lots of chat about. So it's good.
00:00:34
Tackles and Tinnies
It certainly is. Chris, before we get to Jake's team, how you, mate?
00:00:39
Chris
Yeah, not too bad. Yes, i'm good to good I'm good to talk footy.
00:00:46
Tackles and Tinnies
right, boys. That's all right. Don't have to ask me how I'm going, but I'm going well. I'm going very well. um I mean, I've actually had a great
Supercoach Achievements and Banter
00:00:54
Tackles and Tinnies
week. School is sort of slowing down for me yeah and my footy is picking up.
00:00:55
Jake
Thank you.
00:00:58
Tackles and Tinnies
So that's always good to know. And Chris, the slander starts now because you're shit at Supercoach and I'm now the king. I may as well be the 2IC to Adam Probe.
00:01:08
Chris
Thank you.
00:01:09
Tackles and Tinnies
I'm popping off. I'm back. I'm back for the finals. I'm back for the classic. Everything's doing well for me. I killed it this week, boys. I got 836 overall for the entire rankings out of 176,000.
00:01:24
Tackles and Tinnies
Safe to say I'm the top 0.05% of super coaches out there in Australia. Yes, I am the king of super coach besides our beloved friend, which we'll give a rundown shortly.
00:01:35
Tackles and Tinnies
But I'm also very proud of myself because I got an all-time score of 1,826. yes, hold your applause, boys. Hold your applause. I know I'm good.
00:01:46
Tackles and Tinnies
Now, Chris, since you are the three I see now because I'm better than you, do you want to elaborate how you went this week, my friend?
00:01:53
Chris
Well done, Ryan. All hail the new king, the new 2IC. No, like you, I had pretty big final round. no i like you had a pretty really big final round i scored and into nine hundred and thirty nine overall yeah most my pods went big like aj prison hundred twenty one isako hundred and ten eraron clark hundred seven so yeah Finished 2K last year and top 1K this year. So I'm pretty pleased myself, pretty chuffed.
00:02:25
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah,
General Footy Discussion and Titans vs Tigers Analysis
00:02:26
Tackles and Tinnies
fantastic. Well done, mate. Very proud. Jakey, how'd you go, my friend?
00:02:31
Jake
Yeah, very well done to you, both of you boys, especially you, Ryan. Obviously, a huge achievement for you, mate. And then, yeah, top 1K for you as well, Chris. that's yeah That's phenomenal, mate.
00:02:41
Jake
I thought that thought that slander start was going to be with the Titans beating the Tigers over the weekend and avoiding that spoon miraculously. say I thought that's where it was beginning.
00:02:52
Jake
Even you've rocked up without your Tigers hat on, you've changed cats by the looks, Chris.
00:02:56
Tackles and Tinnies
but
00:02:56
Jake
So... That's where I thought that was going.
00:02:58
Tackles and Tinnies
He's jumping on the next hand wagon.
00:02:59
Jake
So, no, it's been good.
00:03:01
Jake
ive It was a great weekend for footy in general. Yeah, great great to see the titans Titans got up. But in terms of super coach... I think I was putting in the group chat, I'd just be happy to finish under the 20,000 mark, which I did.
00:03:10
Chris
Thank you.
00:03:16
Jake
Overall, my season rank was 17,921. nine hundred and twenty one And yeah, just this week gone, I got 16,21 for my final score for the year.
00:03:25
Tackles and Tinnies
Pretty good.
00:03:27
Jake
So yeah there was a lot of big scores this week.
Jake's Absence and Travel Stories
00:03:30
Jake
So 16,21 isn't that great, I don't think, but still good enough. And yeah, under the 20K. So it'll do me.
00:03:37
Tackles and Tinnies
Well, Jake, I think you are should be pretty proud of yourself, mate, because I'd say probably eight to ten rounds ago, you'd be close to 50,000.
00:03:39
Jake
It's been a year.
00:03:46
Tackles and Tinnies
So you've definitely shot up the rankings in recent times, that's for sure.
00:03:49
Jake
Oh, mate, don't shoot me down that much. I think the highest I got up to was about 28,000, all right? So come on, mate.
00:03:55
Tackles and Tinnies
May as well be.
00:03:55
Jake
I know know I've been missing in action.
00:03:56
Tackles and Tinnies
I couldn't see from the top.
00:03:59
Jake
ah know I've disappeared for a month or so and I haven't given you many updates. But yeah, come on, mate. It wasn't 50,000, I promise. promised So yeah.
00:04:06
Tackles and Tinnies
Sorry, I just got confused because you also probably got stuck in a hole in New Zealand, mate.
00:04:11
Jake
Yeah, I didn't get stuck in a hole, but mate, I definitely got stuck there. I definitely went AWOL. No conversation from me. No communication whatsoever, mate.
00:04:18
Tackles and Tinnies
yeah
00:04:19
Jake
I had a great time over there. Seven days of boarding.
00:04:22
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah.
00:04:22
Jake
I don't think that was a day I didn't have a tin in my hand. So, yeah, it was a great
00:04:25
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah.
Queensland Teams and Titans Legion Experience
00:04:26
Jake
trip.
00:04:26
Tackles and Tinnies
Love to see it. Now, boys, I'm going to give you one chance to say a why I've got my Maroons hat on today. Get one guess each. There's a special reason why the Maroon hat's on today.
00:04:26
Jake
So, but yeah, yeah, it's nice.
00:04:40
Tackles and Tinnies
From round 27.
00:04:40
Jake
Chris, do you want to shoot first?
00:04:40
Tackles and Tinnies
No.
00:04:42
Chris
Oh, yeah, your other hats are in the wash.
00:04:46
Tackles and Tinnies
but
00:04:46
Chris
Thank you.
00:04:48
Tackles and Tinnies
You say sentimental and it's got a purpose.
00:04:53
Jake
I'm not sure, but my only off the cuff guess is that Hasler's now gone. Josh Hanna, a Queensland assistant coach with that mix of that Titans jersey, mix it all together.
00:05:01
Tackles and Tinnies
no
00:05:06
Jake
And that's what that's what it's there for.
00:05:08
Tackles and Tinnies
Well, the the Titans jersey, OG Titans mod, I add, when they're actually are good and not in the bottom. No, the reason why I'm wearing the Queensland hat is I think it might be the first time all year every single Queensland team won.
00:05:21
Jake
Aw, nice.
00:05:21
Chris
Yeah, cool. Yeah.
00:05:23
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah, I thought it was a good little omen.
00:05:24
Chris
Cool.
00:05:26
Tackles and Tinnies
And obviously the Titans jersey, i was super proud of the boys last weekend. Not so much the first half as it can probably imagine. I'm in a very, very diehard area of the Titans Legion the Western stand just behind the Titans bench.
00:05:43
Tackles and Tinnies
And it was getting very quiet and the Tigers fans were getting very, very chirpy. And Jake, you can probably attest to this because you're on the other side of the stadium where the Tigers fans were. i can imagine how loud it was over there.
00:05:54
Tackles and Tinnies
But, mate, soon as the second half started, and I think it was a big turning point when Cooper Bayer jumped on.
Titans Performance and Future Speculations
00:05:59
Tackles and Tinnies
I've been glazing him for the past couple of weeks, but... Fantastic debut from him.
00:06:05
Tackles and Tinnies
The energy, as soon as he came on, he almost got that try within the first couple minutes coming on. The boys turned it right on, 100% onto the accelerator, and they looked like a different team. Jake, what do you think?
00:06:17
Jake
Yeah, it was unreal. Even just to hold the Tigers to no points in that in that second half as well.
00:06:21
Tackles and Tinnies
Hmm. Hmm.
00:06:23
Jake
That defensive effort was there. they were clearly fighting for it. Foz's last game ever. So yeah they showed up. It was really good. And yeah, I think it was in a couple of minutes. Cooper by managed to, yeah, bring a lot of energy and cross the line.
00:06:37
Jake
But yeah, you obviously got denied that one, unfortunately.
00:06:40
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah.
00:06:40
Jake
so I was filthy about that one, to be honest. Because yeah, you've definitely been
00:06:43
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah.
00:06:45
Jake
talking about by a little bit, mate, here and there. so yeah, once he jumped on, i was like, yep, screaming his name. So was good. But, yeah, I was, yeah, definitely surrounded by a few Tigers fans and it was with my parents as well. So they're a little bit low key too. So I had no support really. So they were just there silently watching and here I am vocalizing.
00:07:07
Jake
So, but no, it was great.
00:07:07
Tackles and Tinnies
yeah
00:07:09
Jake
Great second half from the boys. And, yeah, it was very nice to see them get the win.
00:07:11
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah. Now, you've got the two hats, Chris. You've got a Titans and a Tigers hat. What did you think about the arm performance in that game as a whole?
00:07:21
Chris
Oh, look, I was happy for the Titans, you know, not to win wooden spoon. Like, you know, we didn't have the urgency there. Look, let's be honest, both teams off to Bali, you know, or they're off at Darity in Bali.
00:07:31
Chris
So, you know, I just wanted to watch a good game and, you know, just not watch a clusterfuck of a game.
00:07:31
Tackles and Tinnies
yeah
00:07:37
Chris
And, you know, we got a good one. So was happy.
00:07:39
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah, absolutely stoked. And I think, again, we talked about Cooper Bayer, but it was good to see Carter Gordon finally on the field. I thought the first 20 minutes he actually had some impact in defence. Obviously, defensively, not the best reads or consistently with those reads.
00:07:55
Tackles and Tinnies
But you can definitely see a running game in there, in that build of his. And I think 5'8 slash halfback will be his position moving forward. As I mentioned last week on the pod, he played halfback for Q Cup the week prior.
00:08:08
Tackles and Tinnies
So it'll be very interesting now that Foren's out of the picture. gave you guys in the arm the squad chat my projected 13 or hoping 13 for next year.
00:08:18
Tackles and Tinnies
I think he does partner Jaden Campbell. Whether he's a 6 or the 7, I think he'll be there. What do you think, Jake?
00:08:25
Jake
Yeah, I would have to agree, especially seeing AJ in the centers as well. AJ even had a great game, I thought too. So it was definitely good to see Carter get his debut out there as well.
00:08:39
Jake
I think, yeah, I think you've got it right. he He came came from union Union in the halves there. So yeah, I believe the whole goal would be to chuck him into either either the six or seven for the Titans.
00:08:50
Tackles and Tinnies
yeah
00:08:50
Jake
So yeah, it's definitely the right move, I think. See how he goes.
00:08:53
Tackles and Tinnies
now Now, Chris, the super coach savant, he's played fullback all season, pretty much, Brimo. He's obviously got more than three games at fullback. He's going to have more than three games at 5'8", because he started there at the season.
00:09:08
Tackles and Tinnies
But going off what the Titans just did and bloody hell, Brimo looked fantastic at centre. And I'm happy to eat those words. a bit of tongue-in-cheek banter on Instagram. I sent you the screenshot of Brimo's post about his centre calling. I thought that was pretty funny.
00:09:23
Tackles and Tinnies
Go into his art Instagram, guys, and check that one out. But, yeah, his running game, and obviously defensively he's so good one-on-one at the back. Obviously an off-season there at centre. I don't see why he couldn't be one of the best centres in the game.
00:09:37
Tackles and Tinnies
Now, what positions does Brimo have next year, Chris? He's going to have probably starting at centre, so he's going to get that locked in, maybe. Or does he go and have the 5'8 fullback position dual because he's done that this year? What do you think there?
00:09:54
Chris
Yeah, I think it really just depends on what he does in the preseason, really. But if I had to guess, I think they're just going simply stick him as five a and fullback. You know, it's similar to kind of like a Jaden Campbell this year who had who who really hasn't played fullback or 5'8. He's only been halfback, but that's what he played majority in 2024.
00:10:14
Chris
So they'll just give him that, which ah ah which i don't i don't hate at all because, you know, I think you can plug him in at by eight next season, you know, yeah. Yeah, i thought it was really funny, actually, when were talking about where his best position is.
00:10:21
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah. Yeah.
00:10:25
Chris
And, you know, he scored two tries and and he's writing on Instagram, he said, guys, I did well, but, you know, the caption was, hey, still not a centre. He clearly does not want to be playing centre, really. He clearly sees himself as either a fullback or five-eight, probably fullback, clearly.
00:10:39
Chris
But I just don't think there's enough space. There's no space for him there, unfortunately, you know, with Keanu Kinney.
00:10:45
Tackles and Tinnies
Mate, and Keeney, bloody Jake, I don't know if you can say the exact same as me, but the eye test, I don't know what it looked like on TV, Chris, but bloody hell, he looked so good. Brimo is a fantastic ball runner in his own right, but Keeney's just a little energizer bunny. He just looks so dumb. Every time he got the ball, I thought it he was going to make a break.
00:11:05
Tackles and Tinnies
And I kind of like that with JC and Brimo sniffing around the ruck, supporting him, where he's sort of, it's fullback or nothing for Keeney in my eyes.
00:11:14
Jake
Yeah, definitely.
00:11:15
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah. Yeah.
00:11:16
Jake
he He definitely looks very quick, very agile. He's so damaging in attack kind of thing. yeah, it was definitely good to see see how he was going. And yeah, you're right. Keeney, I think, does have that one jersey just because, yeah, he's he's not really suitable anywhere else. so AJ
Supercoach Final Series Strategy Discussions
00:11:33
Jake
does have that versatility, especially about him now.
00:11:36
Jake
And I feel like JC has definitely cemented that six or seven kind of jersey, definitely. So yeah. Yeah, you can kind of see a good direction where the Titans will be heading in. so
00:11:45
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah.
00:11:46
Jake
But as for that positional kind of thing, i do feel like maybe the preseason will be a huge factor on what position they kind of give to AJ in terms of super coach.
00:11:59
Jake
you got do is look at Ben Hunt. He's played his pretty much his whole career or at least like the past few, like like five, six years ah ah in the seven jersey. And we known him as a ah hooker, I guess, through origin.
00:12:12
Jake
the first year he gets moved to the Broncos and they take everything off him and just give him the six, just give him the five eighth.
00:12:18
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah.
00:12:18
Jake
So, and that was due to that, that preseason there. So i think I wouldn't say a five, eight slash fullback is locked in for AJ.
00:12:25
Tackles and Tinnies
Hmm.
00:12:28
Jake
I reckon, can yeah, if there's rumors that he's been training in center, he might get that center wing fullback. I think more than anything would be my guess.
00:12:36
Tackles and Tinnies
And that's, I'd much prefer him at center wing, even though next year, then we'll get to this discussion point in the coming segments, but center wing next week is going to be absolutely stacked of all these fullback center wing jewels.
00:12:43
Chris
Mm-hmm.
00:12:51
Tackles and Tinnies
And we've got couple of them late in the season. So, Yeah, that'll be an interesting conversation point later
Bulldogs vs Storm Game Analysis and Predictions
00:12:56
Tackles and Tinnies
on. But I think Chris will go straight into what I liked last week, how we just went through sort of the team list and when so i went through the ins and outs. I thought that worked well. I think the listeners appreciated that as well.
00:13:07
Tackles and Tinnies
Now, looking at game one, absolute cracker because both teams have got some players out. Storm versus Doggies, Chris. you want to run that through that one for us?
00:13:16
Chris
Yeah, so biggest the biggest out for this whole thing is Ryan Pappenhausen. He's out with concussion. did eve Did he fail it in that final game? Do you remember that,
00:13:29
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah, I watched the highlight and it was almost a try saving sort of run slash tackle. And he sort of just whacked his head near the corner post and then just got sent off. So I thought it was originally called a cat too, but yeah, it must have changed that decision in the sheds.
00:13:48
Chris
Yeah. Okay. Well, yeah. So, well, Nick Meany, he's now at fullback. He played great a few, you know, for several games, you know, to fill in for him. The rest of the team is pretty much the same. Wishart's at seven.
00:13:59
Chris
Harry Grant is back. i thought it was very funny. I saw and interview with Cam Munston. He said, yeah, I'm kind of glad Harry's back. up but We've leaked 70 when I've been captain. I don't think I should be the captain.
00:14:11
Chris
I'm glad Harry's back, he said. So I thought that was funny.
00:14:12
Tackles and Tinnies
And
00:14:14
Chris
Yeah, and then the rest is the same. And Jonah Peasant, he's at 14. And also Bronson Garlic's at 17, you know, to spell Harry Grant is needed. When it comes to the Bulldogs, it is pretty close, 1 to 13 as well. But the main thing is that ah Jacob Kiraz still isn't back it yet. He's on the extended bench. And Blake Wilson is starting for him.
00:14:39
Chris
Yeah. other thing I should probably say as well is that Brontan Sherry is also out as well because of that concussion hit last week. So Inari Tuala is starting at left centre.
00:14:45
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah.
00:14:50
Tackles and Tinnies
yeah
00:14:50
Chris
Yeah.
00:14:50
Tackles and Tinnies
And Marcelo Montoya also with that ankle sprain as well. So that's unfortunate for him.
00:14:55
Chris
Yep.
00:14:57
Tackles and Tinnies
Now, I think, Jake, before I ask your opinion here, boys, I actually think it's a smoke and mirrors on both sides here. I'm looking at the extended benches, and I'm just going to rattle off a couple of names on the extended bench. For Melbourne, you've got Jack Howarth and Suofar Longo.
00:15:14
Tackles and Tinnies
And reason I'm saying those two names is Joe Chan is named at center. Now, obviously, Joe Chan can do a job, but when got two superstars like that, or not superstars, but two very more upside players and attack on the extended bench, I know Howarth was very close last week to play.
00:15:30
Tackles and Tinnies
I feel like he could be a chance of playing. And now I've also heard, can't remember who said it, could have been Paul Gallen potentially, but he's pretty confident he's got a male that Jacob Kraz will play.
00:15:43
Tackles and Tinnies
So that's very interesting. you know Now, Jake, if Howith or Falongo are ready to play, would you put them in for Joe Chan?
00:15:55
Tackles and Tinnies
And then would you switch Nick Schmini if you went Falongo?
00:15:55
Chris
Wow.
00:15:57
Tackles and Tinnies
Give us your spiel on how do you think that would work out.
00:16:02
Jake
Yeah, i look, it depends on obviously how those two gents are faring at the moment. Storm are pretty lucky there, I feel.
00:16:13
Jake
You can definitely see Joe Chan kind of dropping out there, Nick Meany moving back to center and Falago going back to fullback, possibly. Could be very straightforward.
00:16:23
Jake
Or if maybe Suar still isn't ready to be coming back there, Howarth could just be replacing Joe Chan in the centers if he's ready. so And Nick Meany would just be staying in that fullback position.
00:16:37
Jake
I don't know if they'd do any other changes to their bench. Yeah, like Pezzet, to be honest, Garlick could even possibly drop out there because if Pezzet were to come in and give like Wish a spell at seven, Wish could obviously also jump into the hooker role.
00:16:48
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah.
00:16:55
Tackles and Tinnies
Which I think he would.
00:16:55
Jake
So, yeah.
00:16:56
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah.
00:16:57
Jake
So then like Howarth or Suor could easily just slot into that 17 role too.
00:17:01
Tackles and Tinnies
yeah
00:17:01
Jake
So I feel like Storm with their extended bench definitely have like a few different potential moves there. When, yeah. And if you look at the dogs, obviously if Karaz is available,
00:17:13
Jake
Whether it's Rinnecama or Wilson, I'd probably presume it would be Wilson. that That would drop out there. um there. um But yeah, that's a pretty straightforward swap on the dog side.
00:17:25
Jake
I don't really see any other changes out of their extended bench. So unless they had an injury essentially.
00:17:28
Tackles and Tinnies
Yep.
00:17:31
Jake
But yeah, Storm could be some last minuteut last minute changes there to try and get a ah ah stronger 17 for them. See if they can do some Amy Park magic and get a first round finals win as per usual.
00:17:44
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah. Chris, thoughts on that, mate?
00:17:47
Chris
Yeah, actually quite like what Jakey said about Sua Falongo. I just don't think he can just sub in for Joe Chan. He's just much too small at centre, especially he's playing. ah don't think he'd be defending.
00:17:59
Chris
I think he actually could be defending. No, he wouldn't be defending Stephen Crichton. That probably would be yeah Grant Anderson on the left. But, you know, can you just imagine? He'd be absolutely destroyed, really.
00:18:10
Chris
And I don't know how how big Inari Tuwala is as well. So it could be case of they just want to bolster up there their back line defensively. you know it's You know, it's final series. You know, defence wins out of attack often.
00:18:23
Chris
But you're right, if Meany goes to centre, then that's fine. For far longer to go, you know, start at full back. But I think that Jack Half is the play, really. But it's just a case of can he come back from that drawing injury?
00:18:36
Chris
And, you know, he's still not ready, then, they you don't think he's going risk I don't think Craig Bellamy is going to risk him.
00:18:43
Tackles and Tinnies
You know what I think, boys? I think actually due to Pappenhausen being at end, Jerome Hughes up with the broken wrist, I've got an inkling that Far Longo is going to come into fullback.
00:18:54
Tackles and Tinnies
and then Nick Meany goes back to center, and then Joe Chan will take that utility second-row spot on the bench. Reason why I'm thinking that, yes, defense is so important, and and Jack Howarth such a big body, but they're losing a lot of attack without Pappenhausen and Endrom Hughes, and I think you boys can agree in recent times,
00:19:15
Tackles and Tinnies
without the cheat code of x Xavier Coates' chip kick to the corner, which has pretty much been their go-to for many, many weeks. They've looked quite pedestrian without Jerome Hughes.
00:19:26
Tackles and Tinnies
I don't, and I think you boys to agree as well, I don't think it be a high-scoring affair, but having that game-breaker in far long ago provides probably that extra upside that Melbourne need due to the fact that their two of their big four are going to be out.
00:19:41
Chris
Yeah. Yeah.
00:19:43
Jake
they They are hurting a bit, the Storm.
00:19:43
Chris
That's why i said I liked it. Yeah.
00:19:45
Jake
Like, Nelson, Nass with a suspension again, Jerome Hughes and Pappenhausen. Like, yeah, that's crazy. Don't get me wrong, Nelson seems be getting suspended all the time at the moment, but he's an absolute...
00:20:00
Jake
beast kind of thing when he's out there. He's definitely that more old school player. just happy to hit hard. He's just a taller, taller boy, bigger frame. And he's just collecting heads.
00:20:11
Jake
So there's no way I'd want to go up against Nars depending no matter how big I was.
00:20:11
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah.
00:20:16
Jake
So yeah, so there's definitely some three big names there the Storm that are hurting. yeah, with even Karaz, Montoya and Sherry out, Dog's back line has definitely taken a big hit too. so
00:20:29
Tackles and Tinnies
yeah
00:20:30
Jake
And I don't know about you two gents, but I definitely feel like the Storm and the Dogs just haven't been in as good as form over the past month, roughly. So they've definitely been hurting.
00:20:39
Tackles and Tinnies
Definitely.
00:20:41
Tackles and Tinnies
Yep.
Warriors vs Panthers Lineup and Game Expectations
00:20:42
Jake
It'll be an interesting game, that one.
00:20:43
Tackles and Tinnies
Now, for for viewership purposes, I'm really hoping Falongo's there. He's just absolute dynamo. i love watching him play. I do think Melbourne are desperate for that X factor because, again, you can't just rely on Xavier Coates to just literally jump on someone's head to score. So next game – hang on, who we tipping, boys, by the way?
00:21:06
Tackles and Tinnies
Chris, who you got?
00:21:07
Chris
Oh, Storm.
00:21:08
Tackles and Tinnies
Storm.
00:21:09
Chris
Storm 20.
00:21:10
Tackles and Tinnies
Oh, shit. Jackie.
00:21:14
Jake
Storm by six.
00:21:16
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah, I'm going to meet halfway. going to say Storm by 10. Storm by 20, you're crazy. No, we'll be kidding.
00:21:23
Chris
Bro, the dogs are not, they're not it they're not a genuine contender, you know. and Like, you know, ever since halfway when they brought a certain halfback in and they just ruined their team and the whole team chemistry.
00:21:33
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah, i don't know. 20 points, mate. That's big call. Big call. Anyway, Tom would tell as he's saying this podcast. Next game, we've got the Waz versus the Panthers. Chris, take it away, mate.
00:21:45
Chris
Yeah, a couple of big changes for the Wiles. Wade Egan, you know, their trusty hooker, he's back. Jackson Ford is also back from a suspension.
00:21:58
Chris
Rocco Berry's out. I think he did that. Was that shoulder? I think he did he dislocated in the first couple of minutes of round 27. Penrith, all their big guns are back.
00:22:10
Chris
Other than Mitch Kenny, he's out. I don't exactly know why it is. why he's out and there's no there's no information on nrl.com. But Brian Totto, Liam Marden is back. And Tom Jenkins, he got dropped, actually, for Port Alamotti.
00:22:23
Tackles and Tinnies
True.
00:22:24
Chris
I think it's going to be try galore for Port Alamotti this weekend.
00:22:24
Tackles and Tinnies
Yep.
00:22:29
Chris
I watched Dallin Wateni-Zelezniak last week just keep rushing in, absolutely keep rushing in and, you know, getting scored a upon. So, yeah, for for the nine-position, Luke Somerton, he will deputise for Mitch Kenney.
00:22:46
Tackles and Tinnies
Now, what are your thoughts on the, the lineups here, Jakey?
00:22:53
Jake
yeah, that Mitch Kenny obviously is a surprise out and that maybe explains that early spell from him that I know was going off in the chat a little bit. We were kind of ready for Nathan Cleary to get a bit of a rest with Schneider on the bench last week and we saw Kenny disappear. So yeah there could be an injury or something going on there.
00:23:13
Jake
I missed that game, but the chat was keeping me up to date essentially. Yeah, look, Panthers are essentially ready to roll, I think.
00:23:25
Jake
This is definitely going to be a scary game for the Warriors. I am cheering on the Warriors hard, to be honest.
00:23:31
Tackles and Tinnies
Yep.
00:23:31
Jake
I really hope they get a win over there. Full on the New Zealand bandwagon after just getting back from Queenstown. So, yeah, I hope they do a great job. Yeah.
00:23:43
Jake
let's see some like leaker Halasima magic or something. And he just, yeah, does some youth, youth gun stuff and just makes a great line break and wins it for him or something. would be really nice.
00:23:56
Jake
But yeah, scary game for the Warriors. I hope the crowd really, really rock up, which I'm sure they will and support their team because yeah, I'm ready for the, for the Penrith Panthers to really start to shine now.
00:24:10
Jake
So
00:24:11
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah, I was also listening to Bloke and the Bar today and such yesterday, and they sort of broke down this game. And they were looking at Laliya, I think his name is. He was the center at the start of the year, and then he's had some injuries, but obviously he's not even in the extended squad. So they've actually opted for Capewell in the centers, which makes me feel that they're just going to try match defense with their pungent attack.
00:24:39
Tackles and Tinnies
I'm a bit worried. Again, I'm always skeptical with Kurt Capewell and I've been proven wrong many times this year, let alone for Warriors, but for Queensland. I just don't know if they've got enough attack to score enough points on this Panthers outfit. like I love Alamotti. I think he's a great player. Toto's got another week of rest.
00:25:01
Tackles and Tinnies
Cleary popped off last week. And... I'm only speculating here, but with the Mitch Kenny situation, do you boys remember he dislocated that shoulder many, many weeks ago and they thought he potentially was going to be out for the season?
00:25:12
Chris
Oh.
00:25:13
Tackles and Tinnies
Maybe to do with that. Absolutely no sources. But that's gone off the top my head. That could be a correlation there for sure. Now...
00:25:25
Tackles and Tinnies
Wade Egan, huge inclusion. Love Lekker starting on the field. I think that's great. But I just don't. And obviously, Fisher Harris, revenge game against his former club.
00:25:37
Tackles and Tinnies
He's going to want to have a big game against Leota, that's for sure. But I think the Panthers going to be too strong. I'm backing the Panthers in reluctantly for a tipping purpose, not because of my heart, for a tipping purpose.
00:25:50
Tackles and Tinnies
I'm going to say they're going to win about 16 by 16 points, unfortunately. Who have you got, Jake? What's the score?
00:25:59
Jake
Warriors, four points.
00:26:02
Tackles and Tinnies
Love it. Love it. Chris, who have you got?
00:26:06
Chris
Yeah, Tigers are out. That's why I've got a new cap on my cap. Pamphons by 20.
00:26:13
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah. Well, Jake, we can go up the wires because we're our fellow New Zealanders at heart.
00:26:19
Chris
So many Penrith haters on this on this podcast.
00:26:21
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah. Screw the Panthers. Ain't no bandwagon here.
00:26:25
Jake
Imagine five. Imagine five for the Black Panthers.
00:26:28
Tackles and Tinnies
Oh, my God.
00:26:30
Jake
That'd be insane.
00:26:31
Tackles and Tinnies
Imagine six grand finals in a row. That's even crazier to say. It's LeBron James-esque.
00:26:34
Jake
a
00:26:36
Tackles and Tinnies
He always drops a mention here.
00:26:37
Jake
Yeah.
00:26:39
Tackles and Tinnies
Next game here.
Sharks vs Roosters Game and Venue Suitability Debate
00:26:40
Tackles and Tinnies
And was an interesting one. I think it's one of the matchups of the round, to be honest. Sharkies versus Roosters. So, Chris, take away, mate.
00:26:48
Chris
Yeah, I think Sharks, if I'm not mistaken. They get some good troops back. Braden Trindle, he's back from his ankle injury. Britton Nikara, who scorned me in my final couple of rounds with his suspension Supergoach, he's back and he'll be back on the right right a second row position.
00:27:10
Chris
Atkinson, he goes back to reserves. And yeah, that's pretty much for the Sharks. Roosters, I think they're also one to set pretty much 1-17 from last week.
00:27:21
Chris
Sam Walker, Teddy, Nala, Daniel Tupo, they're all there in the back line, so pretty formidable.
00:27:29
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah, they're ready to rock and roll. Now, Jakey, are you picking here, mate? What are you thinking? What are you thinking?
00:27:35
Jake
Yeah, reckon this is going to be a fantastic game. Ready for a lot of points out of this one. Weather dependent, I guess. I oh
00:27:49
Jake
reckon this is a very tough game.
00:27:53
Jake
I'm going to say i i do think the Sharks are somehow going to manage a win on this one. So reckon the Roosters have been in some... good form recently, definitely.
00:28:06
Jake
And they look very dangerous, but I'm going to tip the Sharks. Sharks by 12.
00:28:16
Tackles and Tinnies
12-12.
00:28:18
Jake
Yeah.
00:28:18
Tackles and Tinnies
Chris, any other like comments?
00:28:18
Jake
Nico Hines has avoided that suspension.
00:28:21
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah, Nico, was happy to mention him.
00:28:22
Jake
So...
00:28:22
Chris
Yeah, no. It's hard to know, really. i think it depends on which Sharks team turns up and which Roosters team turns up. If it's the same Roosters team from the last two weeks, you know, absolute perilous form. Their back line.
00:28:36
Chris
You know, we said this last week, Ryan, absolutely elite, you know, passing ball out the back. And, you know, now scored, I think, five tries. And Daniel Tufo has just been sitting there doing absolutely nothing.
00:28:47
Chris
I think Daniel Tupo is playing against Sione Katoa, who's not a noted aerialist. It could be the Sam Walker to you know kick on the fifth to Daniel Tupo hat-trick.
00:28:58
Chris
you know so But at the same time, it's also Cronulla Park.
00:28:58
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah.
00:29:02
Chris
Sorry, Shark Park, apologies. you know And you know the Sharks always play well there. you know
00:29:07
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah.
00:29:08
Chris
Mulatalo, Eros back for your second game. You know, that that left yeah that left side attack is so good as well for the Sharks. It's hard to know. Yeah, also both good big forward packs.
00:29:17
Tackles and Tinnies
yeah
00:29:18
Chris
I guess it's just who just plays good football and just doesn't drop the ball, which we know both teams can do randomly out of nowhere.
00:29:24
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah, it's a tough one, eh? Like, I'm just going to quickly mention as well, Kale Eero, I brought him in two weeks ago, did jackal for me. I should have gone Marky Mark, had an inkling, but the Kale Eero pod against everyone else wasn't too successful, but he's looking good eye test-wise, obviously, with that torn pec he's come back from.
00:29:46
Tackles and Tinnies
Sharks. I don't know. Nico Hines absolutely dodged a bullet. Obviously got downgraded with his potential, I think it was a grade two charge. So yeah, he got that downgrade so could play this week.
00:29:56
Tackles and Tinnies
Is Trindle healthy enough? could He might even get subbed off halfway through the game. Like obviously playing a bit of a risk there with his injury. That's a bit worrying for the Sharkies. I want to, before I give my tip, I want to ask both of you the same question here.
00:30:12
Tackles and Tinnies
What are your thoughts on the game being played at Shark Park? There's only like 12,000 people at this stadium maximum. Should the game be played somewhere else to get more fans in?
00:30:26
Tackles and Tinnies
Me personally, i think it's a no-brainer.
00:30:29
Chris
Thank
00:30:29
Tackles and Tinnies
We're quite lucky here on the Gold Coast. We got CBAS, 25,000. I think that's like the perfect number for like occupancy for like that type of game. But yeah, 12,000, 50% of what the Gold Coast could have. I think it's pretty piss poor for a meant to be one of the best codes in the world, let alone for an Australian context.
00:30:50
Tackles and Tinnies
What are your thoughts, Jake, on Shark Park being a viable finals option?
00:30:57
Jake
I think the Sharks should get their choice. If they want to play there, they deserve their their home final. Then they get to choose where they want to play, essentially.
00:31:07
Jake
if they decided as a club they were happy to take it elsewhere, then so be it for whatever motive that may be. Obviously, within reason. But no, I'm all for it. It should be at Shark Park. If the stadium's not big enough, I don't know, get some funding from the NRL. Gives the NRL a good reason to upgrade it, help them out in some way.
00:31:28
Jake
I'm a bit out of touch with all the conversations around Shark Park and whether it's due for an upgrade and all that type of stuff. But yeah, all for it. It should be held at Shark Park.
00:31:40
Jake
they They finished in fifth spot. They deserve that.
00:31:43
Tackles and Tinnies
BROADFOOTZEKERSON- Chris, what do you think?
00:31:45
Chris
Yeah, i did i did hear some I did read some of the news articles regarding Shark Park. Like, know, people going to, they're just setting up port-a-loos for people to go pee on the hill. And it takes like, you know, half half half of the first, you half of a match to, you know, to get a pie and a beer. You know, it's just the the so the infrastructure is pretty, pretty shite. But, you know, I totally agree with Jakey, man. Like, seriously, like,
00:32:09
Chris
You know, either, you know, if you're the NRL and you have an issue with this, you know, you stipulate this at the beginning of the season. Go, look, you make the finals, guys. I don't care. You guys are playing it at a court stadium, you know. but don't But if you don't say anything about it, hey, you guys should have had the foresight.
00:32:23
Chris
You know, Sharks are always going to want to play at Shark Park. You know, it's an absolute fortress for them. You know, a court stadium. I don't think they have the same, you know, the same result. Also, you know, Cronulla fans also, you know, they, I can't imagine bothering to make their way up to homebush for court stadiums.
00:32:37
Tackles and Tinnies
Yep. I think it's like the equivalent of like going Goldie to Brisbane. So... Like I've probably got a Suncorp half the time so I can understand for a Sharks fan and the exact same logic.
00:32:44
Chris
Oh.
00:32:48
Tackles and Tinnies
I do empathize. But the end of the day, it is a finals game. like the the club isn't getting money. So maybe because the NRL gets the funding or they get the profits out of that stadium revenue that's coming in for the finals, maybe if they continue to do so, maybe it's a 50-50 split.
00:33:08
Tackles and Tinnies
The revenue goes to both the Sharks and the the NRL, not just 100% the NRL or however percentage it works. Obviously, the stadium gets its own funding, whatever. But yeah, $12,000, mate, it's poor.
00:33:19
Chris
Thank you.
00:33:20
Tackles and Tinnies
Like, you might have 30,000 fans lined up and you can only say one in three can go in. Like that's pretty wild. Like it's, yeah, like Bushley.
00:33:31
Tackles and Tinnies
That's like going down to local Burley Bears, essentially down here and just like get everyone stacked up on a hill. Like...
00:33:38
Chris
i I'll give you counter example, actually, down in Tasmania here. The the Taz Jackjump is our local NBL team. our Our stadium, the deck is only 5,000 people.
00:33:50
Chris
Like, it's at to the stage where, like... I remember when I went and it was 5,000 people and it's just deafening because it's a small stadium. It's such a great atmosphere. as you know Last thing you want to do is, you know, put it at a court stadium, 72,000 capacity, and turns out only 30,000 people rock up to it.
00:34:08
Chris
I think you would much prefer to have that, you know, like that real mentality, siege mentality, which, you know, it's only really your fans who are diehard.
00:34:08
Tackles and Tinnies
What?
00:34:17
Chris
They're the ones you're going to cheer. Unlike, you know, Jake's mum and dad. I apologise for the shade. Random drive-by. It just came to my mind. it Just slap dads, you know.
00:34:26
Jake
They wouldn't cheer for the Sharks, mate. They wouldn't be cheering for the Sharks, I promise.
00:34:29
Chris
Well, they weren't cheering for the Gold Coast Titans either, apparently.
00:34:33
Jake
Nah, just quietly.
00:34:33
Chris
So...
00:34:34
Jake
They were just quietly cheering.
00:34:34
Chris
yeah yeah
00:34:35
Jake
so
00:34:36
Chris
so So, and it's great. and And more than that, like, it's not it's not as if, you TAS government's going, oh, we need we're going to expand the stadium, think you know, to increase that 5,000 capacity, you know.
00:34:48
Chris
We now just have, like, now theyre just there's now just this membership wait-line lists, you know, to get a cup season membership ticket if you want it. And it just becomes more and more exclusive, you know, and it just builds into that Jackjumpers brand.
00:35:02
Chris
we I've kind of felt.
00:35:02
Tackles and Tinnies
on
00:35:04
Chris
so i'm So, therefore, as a result, I... What I'm trying to get at really is that the aim is you really just want to have just your supporters really and nobody else.
00:35:15
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah.
00:35:16
Chris
And if it has to be smaller, that's fine.
00:35:19
Tackles and Tinnies
Okay. Counter argument. And obviously yours might be a bit more niche, but is there any other venue within let's say half an hour that is bigger?
00:35:30
Chris
yeah Nah, that's a big the the truth is that that's the biggest venue that's available unless they literally held at Bell Rave.
00:35:33
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah. So,
00:35:35
Chris
They changed Bell Rave Oval and just put a basketball court there. Then you could fit like 15,000.
00:35:39
Tackles and Tinnies
Coogee, which is like 20 minutes away, has like 22,000, which is like just more than CBUS.
00:35:39
Chris
Yeah, fair.
00:35:47
Tackles and Tinnies
There's your solution. There's an extra 10,000. And more than likely, you're going to be all sharks anyway. So, imagine having an extra 10,000 shark supporters there. Wouldn't that even be better again? And you're...
00:35:57
Chris
yeah
00:35:59
Tackles and Tinnies
Like, again, if fair enough.
00:35:59
Chris
yeah
00:36:00
Tackles and Tinnies
If go into court, I understand.
00:36:01
Chris
Okay.
00:36:01
Tackles and Tinnies
Like, it looks shit on TV all the time. Like, you see the Rabbitohs and their poor fan base, slander to Morgan. You're welcome. And you're watching them on TV, and they have, like, 5,000 supporters there.
00:36:14
Tackles and Tinnies
And looks so crap. But obviously finals, people make the effort. They spend the extra money and they'll go to these bigger stadiums, and especially out in the middle of buttfuck nowhere. Easy way of saying it.
00:36:26
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah, it's a tricky conversation, but I think you nailed it on the head, Chris. It has to be said from the start of the season and just this is what's happening. doesn't matter what you're doing.
00:36:38
Tackles and Tinnies
If you're in Sydney, we're just going to Allianz or we're going to a core. If you're in Queensland, we're going to Suncorp. yep
00:36:44
Chris
Yeah. um One more small thing as well to kind of point out, you know, here's the If you're a Sharks player, you know, you you like that you play at the same stadium. You know where you sit. You know, this is your locker.
00:36:55
Chris
You know, you know where the grass is good. You know where the ball doesn't bounce well.
00:36:57
Tackles and Tinnies
yep
00:36:58
Chris
You know at 6 p.m., you know, whenever the game is, you know, this is exactly where the wind kind of blows most often than not on a, you know, on a Saturday night. I think it's these small, tiny things that, you know, when, you know, when the game gets tough and everybody's tired fatigued,
00:37:12
Chris
instant kicks in and you just all these little tiny things for example again even if you went up a little 20 minutes more early it's just a different stadium it's a different feel and sometimes it just feels bit foreign just can pull you off it probably doesn't matter honestly it's same way you know we even though you know Panthers are going across the ditch going two hours forward we still think that they'll probably probably most likely win more likely or still the favorites that kind of thing yeah
00:37:19
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah. ye Yeah.
00:37:35
Tackles and Tinnies
It's definitely ah ah interesting conversation. And i think listeners, that's where we want to see you guys on socials, hear your perspective on it. And again, I think for the greater good of the game, yes, more fans the better, obviously.
00:37:50
Tackles and Tinnies
But I understand what you guys are saying. like It's a fortress. And i I think you nailed it the head there, just Chris. His familiarity is that 5%, 10% better for the players?
00:38:01
Tackles and Tinnies
Probably. And that's what the advantage that they get and they've deserved that advantage. Yeah. Yeah, fair call. But guys, we want to hear you guys in the comments, on socials. What do you guys think? Should they be going to ah big Sydney stadium or do they have all the rights to stay where they are for at least this year anyway?
Raiders vs Broncos Game and Grand Final Speculations
00:38:17
Tackles and Tinnies
So next game, we've got, i think, obviously a bit biased here, boys. And I think, Jakey, you probably agree here, mate. Raiders versus Bronx. Chris, take away, mate.
00:38:28
Chris
Yeah, this is my this is my most favourite game of the round. Yeah, the Raiders, there's too many ins and outs, basically. so I'll just quickly summarise by saying the entire New South Wales Cup team is out and the Raiders, you know, first 17 are back in are pretty much. So, you know, your favourites, you know, your KO weeks, you know, your cult favourites like Jamal Fogarty, Ethan Strange, Josh Pufferle. Apparently he had a had an ankle injury kind of scare in training last week, but he's starting up and and Hudson Young, Joey Taps, they were there.
00:39:03
Chris
Corey Horsburgh, he's not captain this week. Oh, man, I laughed so hard last week when he made when he he did a captain the challenge, I think, in the first 10 minutes.
00:39:13
Chris
And he challenged him stripping the board. It was so clear. I don't know what he was doing. Yeah. I was like, dude. Anyways.
00:39:20
Tackles and Tinnies
That's why you're not captain Mike.
00:39:22
Chris
it Broncos, super dangerous. Roosie Drinkwater at the one. Shivasagaki's been recalled. He probably hasn't been doing no drinking this week.
00:39:34
Chris
Dean Mariner, he's on the right wing. Sadly, Ezra Mam and Adam Reynolds, they're not back yet. So Billy Walters and Ben Hunt, who's been fantastic at halfback.
00:39:45
Chris
And then the rest of the forwards are pretty much the same, really. Yeah.
00:39:48
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah. Jackie, what are your thoughts on this clash of the Titans?
00:39:53
Jake
Yeah, look, it is going to be a very, very great game to watch this one. Sunday afternoon, Raiders, obviously, minor prems, best team at the moment, essentially, but as we've all been watching, just the the Broncos are just on fire.
00:40:11
Jake
So, yeah, as Chris said, this is my favorite game as well of the of the round, of the week. Very excited for this one. Yeah, it'll be a great contest.
00:40:22
Jake
So, yeah, really torn about who's probably going to get up for this one.
00:40:26
Tackles and Tinnies
Thank
00:40:28
Jake
I think Raiders obviously having a rest. pretty much of their whole 17 will really help them. And it is down in Canberra. So yeah, it is kind of hard not to look past the Raiders, but I want the Broncos to win this so bad.
00:40:44
Jake
So i'm going to have, yeah, the Broncos by six for this one. Just going to put that tip out there early.
00:40:50
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah, I love that. I'm frothing this game. And obviously, you're nailing the head, Chris. There is murmurs that Papali'i hurt his ankle, rolled his ankle pretty badly at the field. So if he goes out, Corey Horsburgh straight to prop.
00:41:07
Tackles and Tinnies
And then you got probably Morgan Smithy straight into lock for Corey Horsburgh. And then Manny Nicholson just comes straight to the bench. So pretty lucky how they can just decide shift those boys around. as you mentioned as well, with those Broncos guns, if they can get through this week and win, that's going to be huge. They can almost pretty much guarantee Ezra and Renault will we be back in two weeks' time, which is going to be fantastic. And I think, imagine a week off for Recy Walsh. He's been doing so much heavy lifting for the Broncos.
00:41:39
Tackles and Tinnies
It's just unreal. so And obviously, big pain, Haas, and Carrigan doing their own rights there as well. But I think Reece Walsh and the class he's in and the form that he's in and the amount of aura that he's having with the toilet water.
00:41:52
Tackles and Tinnies
I thought the arm try celebration. I don't know if you guys picked it up.
00:41:54
Chris
Yeah.
00:41:55
Tackles and Tinnies
But when he scored the try, he did the the toilet bowl try celebration.
00:41:56
Chris
Yeah.
00:42:00
Tackles and Tinnies
I was pissing myself. thought that was the funniest thing ever. Reece Plumbing, I'm all in. I'm backing the Broncos in, mate.
00:42:07
Tackles and Tinnies
Broncos by 10.
00:42:07
Chris
Yeah.
00:42:10
Tackles and Tinnies
Broncos by 10. Reece Walsh, 500 super coach points.
00:42:12
Chris
yeah Yeah, it's it's hard to know who will win this one. It's a very close call. Both teams are very, very good. It's like you said, just Broncos in absolutely five absolute fire at the moment.
00:42:22
Tackles and Tinnies
Thank you.
00:42:25
Chris
I'm just going to hedge my bets. I'll just say that, look, if the Broncos want to win, i think they have to be ahead at halftime because the Raiders come home very, very strong.
00:42:35
Chris
i think they' I think they're the best performing team in the second half. I do, but I think I'm going to just tip Raiders. I really want them to win. want Ricky to to win a another premiership.
00:42:45
Chris
I think he's a really good coach. So I'm going to say Raiders by six
00:42:52
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah, we're Okay, interesting. So two Bronx, one Raider. Looks like you're getting kicked off the podcast now, Chris. So it's good knowing you, mate. Good insight.
00:43:00
Jake
It's definitely ahs certainlyly a fair call there as well, Chris. like Even to have Jed i'm still on the wing, obviously like sad for Savage, who I believe is out for the season now too.
00:43:03
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah.
00:43:12
Jake
yeah, Tamale has come back with the right timing there. And then yeah like it would be also yeah a bit of a fairytale to have Ricky with his son as well.
00:43:23
Jake
So yeah, it is nice.
00:43:23
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah.
00:43:24
Jake
But yeah, the Broncos can them this week and they can meet in the grand final. They can have nice little rematch. So it'll be good.
00:43:31
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah.
00:43:32
Chris
Yeah, I wouldn't hate that either.
00:43:34
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah, exactly right. I think... If you're a Queensland, you've probably going for the Broncos, obviously. But I think everyone else has gone for the Raiders. So, yeah, either or, you can't really go wrong for the grand final. But it could be a grand final rematch in a couple of weeks' time, which will be very interesting.
00:43:50
Tackles and Tinnies
And I think it's, again, we mentioned this last week, Chris, but I think it's kind of good to really dissect these games and really go through because now we're into the the real thick of it with Supercoach.
00:44:01
Tackles and Tinnies
This is like where the diehards are coming out. This is... Classic's done. Draft is done. Now into the final series. And I'll give a quick little insight to the listeners here what it is. So there's got your hooker, front row, second row, halfback, wing slash center, only one, fullback, and your flex position.
00:44:21
Tackles and Tinnies
So one position per spot. Your captain gets triple points and your vice captain gets double points as as a new concept, which I think is unreal.
00:44:32
Tackles and Tinnies
But there's also one thing to note as well. I can't just pick every single position as a Broncos player. You can only have two players per team. So that's really interesting how the team structure is going to happen as well.
00:44:45
Tackles and Tinnies
I mentioned a couple of weeks ago in my first sort of look at the concept on what sort of players i want to be targeting. I would like to hear your thoughts as well, boys. It's really tempting to go like, let's get Cameron Munster in. Let's get Harry Grant in.
00:45:01
Tackles and Tinnies
But the issue is Melbourne versus Dogs. Probably going to be an absolute slugfest. Yes, they're probably the two best players in that position. But will they get the points? I don't know.
00:45:12
Tackles and Tinnies
Really hard to say. You might be looking at or potentially targeting the the five to eight teams because they're not the best defensively. historically.
00:45:23
Tackles and Tinnies
Obviously, they could turn on the finals. We can't say definitively that, e.g.
00:45:25
Chris
Mm-hmm.
00:45:27
Tackles and Tinnies
Panthers. What is your first strategy looking at this, Jakey?
00:45:33
Jake
look, I've been a bit naive on this finals thing. So do we get the opportunity to trade after this week?
00:45:43
Tackles and Tinnies
Yes, sorry. I'll quickly add two as well. I'll answer your question. Each week, unlimited trades. unlimited trades each week and no salary cap, which is also important to note.
00:45:54
Tackles and Tinnies
No salary cap, unlimited trades, triple points for captain, double points for vice captain, two plays only from one team. Yep.
00:46:05
Jake
Yeah, so I know you were just noting on top four teams versing each other and then like bottom four teams that will be versing each other essentially or like five to eight there.
00:46:17
Chris
Mm-hmm.
00:46:19
Jake
i'm just I'm just going with the hot favorites. I'm sticking to the guys who deliver on most weeks. Yeah. like at the end of the day, they're going to be stepping up and providing their best best kind of football moving forward.
00:46:35
Jake
Like definitely understand that maybe the teams that are sitting five to eight will be fighting a lot more because they know it's a knockout kind of round. But even so, like, I feel like the top four, they'll they'll be fighting for that week off. That week off will do wonders. I know it's something that Bellamy is always fighting for.
00:46:56
Jake
It's definitely a good touch what they've done, just having... no more than two of the same kind of club in in your team. I think I didn't read that initially and I went to have, I think three or four storm players in my team and all of a sudden it was all broken. So I had to reset.
00:47:14
Jake
So I was going heavy on the storm. So yeah, it's definitely been fun to kind of put sort to put a team together. Yeah.
00:47:24
Jake
So I don't know if we're going to start sharing or how we want to approach it, but yeah, I'll,
00:47:27
Tackles and Tinnies
I want to hear Chris's thoughts on his strategy and then I think we'll go position by position and we'll go sort round table why we're thinking that p play. I think that's probably the best way to do it.
00:47:39
Tackles and Tinnies
Chris, we'll hear your thoughts on your initial strategy.
00:47:42
Chris
Yeah, look, I haven't fought too hard on on this. I think you guys have said most of the major points. Really, one, we're looking at matchup. We're looking if it's a day game or not as well.
00:47:55
Chris
And pretty much, if I think you're the favoured team to win. i'll probably put I'm going to probably pick a player from each of those teams as well. the one that's ah the The only other difference, actually, i would say probably is you want to probably... I'm thinking about players who traditionally might not be playing as much this in the regular season, but in this final season, they're going to play extended minutes.
00:48:19
Chris
The one that comes to mind specifically Aaron Clark, who has been averaging about 50 to maybe 60 minutes. Last week, he went massive and he just based 100. Like, i I'll just quickly start off and just talk about 2RF.
00:48:32
Chris
I think the two top players probably are, or three players are, Eli Katoa, Hudson Young, and also Aaron Ekat and Hudson Young, they're a little bit try-reliant. Even if even if they if they don't score a try, they average about 60 or 70.
00:48:49
Chris
If Aaron Clarke doesn't average, dozen't doesn't score try, he's probably he's probably basing 90 to 100 against Panerjeev, unless they get absolutely blown out and they spend way too much time on the sticks, really, for him to you know to accumulate base.
00:49:02
Chris
So that's the one thing that's going to be slightly different than I'm looking at. That's the only part only place in the entire game to our ref where that's relevant, because I think in in in front row forward, there's only one player that you can pick, and that is Haas.
00:49:17
Chris
the ah The only person who also will play huge extended minutes as a result will be Joey Taps, and his base will go up as well significantly. But don't think you can choose Joey Taps over Haas, you know, unless he randomly jags a try or two.
00:49:30
Chris
And that's just pure luck. Yeah, going to just play sta statistics.
00:49:34
Tackles and Tinnies
Okay. Yeah. All right. I can go straight to second row then. So are you picking, Chris?
00:49:40
Chris
Clark.
00:49:41
Tackles and Tinnies
Aaron Clark. Okay. Jake, what are you thinking?
00:49:44
Jake
I've gone Hudson Young.
00:49:46
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah. Why Hutter?
00:49:49
Jake
Because i have two other Storm players and I can't get Ellicat.
00:49:52
Chris
Thank
00:49:53
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah.
00:49:55
Tackles and Tinnies
That's interesting. That's a good leak. Now, Chris, you've kind of talked to me into Aaron Clark. I was with you, Jakey. I had Hudson Young. Broncos, at the best of times, have been quite inconsistent. Obviously, you were pretty good defensively last week.
00:50:08
Tackles and Tinnies
But yeah, Raiders, obviously, there they're a gun-attacking team. And on a drier track, I think Hudson Young could do some damage. Pierre Cora's rocks and diamonds. He's a part of the arm the CEO of Reece Walsh's club there.
00:50:22
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah, Aaron Clark, that's I'm kind of liking that now. like He's had cramps almost every single week for the past two months. But last week, he must have bloody had...
00:50:32
Tackles and Tinnies
20 milligrams of creatine or something because he he came back strong and that base, yeah, that's a huge call. oh don't know.
00:50:40
Chris
Yeah, look, I mean, I like Hudson Young as well, you know, because when the tough you know when the going gets tough, you know, he the big games, he likes to come in and contribute right out of half. And he's one of those fearless players. Like, often when when the game gets serious, a lot of people just tuck it underneath there their they wing and they don't offload anymore.
00:50:59
Chris
Hudson Young just likes to do weird, random stuff, you know kick the ball, you know, still offload. And, you know, sometimes you're with Payne Haas. Sometimes in the big games, hell like, when he's from New South Wales versus Queensland, there's just no offloads happening anymore.
00:51:11
Chris
you know, and those really small little points that accumulate, they just disappear. So if Hudson Young Jagged to try, it could just be 110, just a mammoth, mammoth effort. His base could also go up if he just makes more runs, just makes more tackles.
00:51:24
Chris
But I think that just based on last week from Aaron Clark, he the guy's just a monster. stuff Yeah, PPM monster.
00:51:31
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah, that's really kind of selling me, eh? Because Hudson Young in recent times has had some pretty mid scores because he had that period near origin time. i think it was game one-ish.
00:51:44
Tackles and Tinnies
He was just popping off 100 after 100 after 100 after 100. remember Jake on the podcast, me and you talked in length about Hudson Young and trying to get him in. He got up to like eight hundred and fifty k or something at one stage.
00:51:56
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah, it's really like you go huge upside with Hudson Young. or you go more of a safe bet with the floor of Aaron Clark.
00:52:08
Tackles and Tinnies
Oh, I don't know, Jake. Give me one more sell for Hudson Young.
00:52:12
Jake
Well, I guess if it's between Hardy Young and Aaron Clark for you, don't get me wrong. Yeah, sure. Aaron Clark might get a lot more minutes, but if we get the Panthers of old and they just turn up and absolutely to decide to demolish Warriors,
00:52:28
Jake
yeah, I don't see many Warriors players getting too many points. So it's it's going to be dependent on the Panthers team that rock up. Are we about to see the same Panthers team that we've seen over the past four years that have won four grand finals?
00:52:44
Jake
Yeah, we've we've definitely noticed a Penrith team that hasn't been as strong this year. But yeah, you listen to the commentary around the place. Even Joey Johns, he's come out saying that if there's one team that can win it outside the top four, like for the first time ever or whatever it is, he's saying it's Penrith Panthers.
00:53:03
Jake
So, and everyone knows their capabilities. They had a nice resting last week. Warriors aren't the same team as they have been this year. Yeah, they've lost their like star in Metcalf and their halfback.
00:53:15
Jake
And yeah, they just don't seem as strong. Probably the only favoritism their way is that it's over and over in New Zealand.
00:53:19
Chris
Thank you.
00:53:23
Jake
So, but if Panthers rock up,
00:53:25
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah.
00:53:26
Jake
Don't get me wrong, Warriors will be getting some ball, but is it enough to kind of outdo 18-minute guaranteed Huddy Young down in Canberra that's just had a nice rest? so But yeah, look, I think I said earlier, I'm ready for everybody's finals seem to be quite similar.
00:53:46
Jake
And yeah, I think we've nailed probably the three second row options between Ellie Cut, Young and Aaron Clark.
00:53:51
Tackles and Tinnies
yeah
00:53:55
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah.
00:53:56
Jake
I was definitely considering Aaron Clark as well.
00:53:59
Jake
But e he's definitely not going to be a man who gets 80 minutes and that's like there's just some crazy injuries to the rest of the team.
00:54:06
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah.
00:54:06
Jake
Um, the night. So for me, it was between cat and young and yeah, just two 80 minute men who, uh, definitely based and can score tries.
00:54:14
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah.
00:54:17
Jake
So, and yeah, I went young cause I have two, two other storm players my team.
00:54:17
Tackles and Tinnies
yep
00:54:22
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah, fair. I I think ah the Panthers do scare me. The Panthers do scare me.
00:54:28
Chris
Thank you.
00:54:30
Tackles and Tinnies
Will I pick another? I've got another Raider in my team, which I won't leak just yet. But if I do need to get another Raider in, that um'm maybe like a Joey Tarpany in flex position, if that's actual smoke and mirrors there. But maybe. We'll see.
00:54:43
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah.
00:54:43
Jake
Well, just just to change it up real quick before we move on, you were to pick one game out of this round that you 100% had to pick the right team to win, what team are you putting all your money on to win this week?
00:54:46
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah.
00:55:00
Tackles and Tinnies
Panthers beating the Warriors.
00:55:03
Jake
And I feel like that would probably be the consensus for a lot of people.
00:55:08
Tackles and Tinnies
But as Chris was saying, though, he doesn't need to score tries to be good.
00:55:08
Jake
So, yeah, if you're...
00:55:13
Tackles and Tinnies
Like, all he's doing is running, offloading, tackle busting, tackling. So if he's playing 70 minutes, that
00:55:19
Jake
Yeah, but they do need the ball, though. They do need the ball in their hands. And if...
00:55:24
Tackles and Tinnies
but he's not relying on getting a try or a line break.
00:55:24
Jake
and if
00:55:27
Tackles and Tinnies
He doesn't do that. Like, that's not his game.
00:55:28
Jake
Correct? Yeah, very, very correct, too.
00:55:29
Tackles and Tinnies
So, yeah, it's a tricky one. It's a tricky one.
00:55:32
Jake
Aaron Clark's not a bad not a bad play at all.
00:55:35
Tackles and Tinnies
Now, I think this is also important to note because there's only one player per position.
00:55:35
Jake
But yeah, and the Panthers are correct.
00:55:41
Tackles and Tinnies
Who will be picked more? Hudson Young's probably going to be 50% of teams, you reckon?
00:55:47
Jake
Looking at his ownership percentage, it says 35% at the moment.
00:55:52
Tackles and Tinnies
Can we see that now? Is that available?
00:55:54
Jake
like can i I can see that. Yeah, I'm scrolling down and I can see the top 10 players in terms of ownership.
00:56:03
Tackles and Tinnies
Ah, interesting.
00:56:05
Tackles and Tinnies
Okay, let's see if I refresh my screen.
00:56:05
Jake
So I'm just sitting on sitting on my my team in finals on the field.
00:56:09
Jake
I scroll down and yeah, I can see my stone.
00:56:10
Tackles and Tinnies
Oh, yep. Okay, yep. Interesting.
00:56:14
Jake
Yeah.
00:56:15
Tackles and Tinnies
Okay.
00:56:16
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah, so like Hudson Young, Ellicott Tower, both 35. Okay, that's interesting to note.
00:56:16
Jake
So yeah, he is the top second runner.
00:56:20
Jake
Yeah.
00:56:23
Chris
Okay, I'm going to move down to, I'm going to move to Hooker. I'm going to get this podcast going.
00:56:25
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah.
00:56:27
Tackles and Tinnies
Okay.
00:56:27
Chris
It was a choice for me between Braley or or or Harry Grant, just because Grant's playing the Bulldogs.
00:56:34
Chris
I just worry there's not going to be too many points. The points are all just going to be from Melbourne 20-0. ah I've just picked Braley, only because few weeks ago when Jerome Hughes went down,
00:56:47
Chris
Harry Graham put a masterclass against Roosters. I think maybe they're susceptible, you know, to really, really good hookers. And if, like, Bradley just runs out of half and, you jags a try or two, and then he just picks up, you know, 50 tackles as well, just a mammoth game from him, reckon he's going outscore Harry Graham.
00:57:02
Tackles and Tinnies
Jake, who do you reckon?
00:57:04
Jake
Yeah, so i was tossing up between the two and I've gone Harry. Team
00:57:10
Tackles and Tinnies
Team Melbourne. Why Harry?
00:57:12
Jake
Melbourne. He's had two weeks off due to suspension, obviously, at the end of the day, that is still two weeks rest.
00:57:19
Tackles and Tinnies
Yep.
00:57:20
Jake
He's not injured. He just did yeah did a bad tackle or whatever it was. I can't recall now. So he is the captain. I'm ready for him to rock up. Bellamy is going to get his team like in form. Yeah. If you don't like Harry for whatever reason, I do agree with Chris that Blake Braley is the, is the other man to pick for sure.
00:57:41
Jake
Blake Braley, the chat towards the end of the season on him was phenomenal. Everyone just could see his running game and how good he was playing as well. They're at shark park. So yeah, there's a lot to speak for, for Blake as well, but yeah, I'm going team Harry mate.
00:57:55
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah, I like that. I've currently got Blake Braley, but I do like your compelling argument, Jake. And I think looking at teamless now, because I've obviously made this pre-teamless Tuesday, if Suir Falongo named, because I'll able to make that change, if Falongo is named at fullback, Harry Grant's coming straight in.
00:58:16
Tackles and Tinnies
I can just see him hovering around the ruck. Falongo is just going to be doing a step and getting a line break. So those line break assists are going to be more prevalent. Yeah, it's definitely a toss-up for sure. Like Shark Park, we've always talked about that in length.
00:58:29
Tackles and Tinnies
But yeah, that's my caveat. If Farlongo is named, he's in for me. So yeah, but currently Brake Braley. But again, it's a two-horse race. Boys, it goes straight to prop. Do we even need to discuss it? Painhaas?
00:58:42
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah.
00:58:42
Jake
Yeah.
00:58:43
Chris
Yep.
00:58:44
Tackles and Tinnies
I mean, he's 80% owned.
00:58:44
Chris
Say no more.
00:58:48
Tackles and Tinnies
What the hell is everyone else smoking? Not picking Payne Haas. Like, who you picking joey tarpena are you picking? Are you picking maybe Aaron Clark, potentially?
00:58:56
Chris
AFB? AFB? Yeah.
00:59:00
Chris
i have ba
00:59:01
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah, be trash.
00:59:01
Jake
yeah
00:59:02
Tackles and Tinnies
go trash No chance. um um Yeah, paint ass. Don't have to comment. Everyone knows how good he is. He's an absolute gun.
00:59:11
Chris
yeah
00:59:11
Tackles and Tinnies
Said and forget. Yeah, there's no point of difference there. As we're talking school for business, the KISS method, keep it simple, stupid.
00:59:22
Chris
the
00:59:23
Tackles and Tinnies
Now, halfback position, Cleary, pretty straightforward. Yeah.
00:59:28
Jake
Yep.
00:59:29
Tackles and Tinnies
Pretty much got the best matchup.
00:59:29
Jake
Clary.
00:59:31
Tackles and Tinnies
Absolutely went nuclear last week, even with the pump fake of the art the boys on the bench. Again, best matchup. Some boys are back. They're looking pretty good.
00:59:43
Tackles and Tinnies
Half them arrested. Coming into form. Warriors looking very shaky of recent times, even though it's going to be in Auckland. Yeah, I think Cleary. I think it's a no-brainer. Who would be a second pick, boys?
00:59:55
Jake
Haven't given it much thought, but off the top of my head, Hines,
01:00:01
Jake
Sam Walker.
01:00:04
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah, I'd be leaning more Sam Walker. Who you reckon, Chris, as his second?
01:00:08
Chris
Yeah, if I had to guess, I'd probably say Hinds as well. Yeah.
01:00:14
Tackles and Tinnies
Out of spite, Nico Hines, my nemesis. You had made an appearance on my podcast and you are not going in my finals team.
01:00:16
Chris
How do know? How do you
01:00:22
Tackles and Tinnies
You are going out week one of the finals. Bye-bye, Sharky.
01:00:25
Chris
know?
01:00:27
Chris
Fortunately, I can re-pick my whole team next week. But yeah, I haven't fit given much more for other than Cleary.
01:00:29
Tackles and Tinnies
thank
01:00:32
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah.
01:00:32
Chris
He's my VC.
01:00:34
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah. Now, I think these are the next two positions are going to be a bit more hotly contested. It'll be interesting to hear who you guys got. You might be the same as me, but 5'8", I've got Ethan Strange. Jake, I remember, again, the podcast a while ago, were looking at 5'8'' options, and then we just went through the data, and Ethan Strange like, holy shit, he's actually gun.
01:00:55
Tackles and Tinnies
And recent times, you can remember the Penrith Panthers game, did that full field to KO Weeks. He's just got that dog in him. I love Ethan Strange. Who you got, Chris?
01:01:08
Chris
it was a toss-up between ehan Strange, who I thought was going to Smokey, but clearly he's not, if you've got him. But Cam Munster, I'm just hoping he puts in an origin performance.
01:01:17
Chris
Yeah.
01:01:19
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah, who you got, Jake?
01:01:21
Jake
Yeah, exact same boat. Was tossing up strange as, yeah, as Chris said, perfect word, little Smokey. Thought many people might not look at him, but yeah, I've landed on Munster.
01:01:31
Jake
There's my two Storm Boys.
01:01:34
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah, I like that. And again, Munster could easily be swapped in, 100%.
01:01:36
Chris
Thank you.
01:01:39
Tackles and Tinnies
hundred percent But I'm just worried about the Dogs, eh? The Dogs' defense has been proven to be pretty good. And Munster in recent weeks not having Pappet. Again, if Farlongo's there, a lot could change for me. Again, could go straight back to Grant and Munster with Farlongo.
01:01:56
Tackles and Tinnies
I'm worried about their attack. I'm being worried about their attack. Is Munster going to break through and Step 10, guys, maybe. You've done it in the past, but yeah, pretty hard one. But yeah, so you got two
01:02:07
Jake
I think Munster scored 79 last week against the Broncos team.
01:02:11
Tackles and Tinnies
two... 79.
01:02:14
Jake
That spanked him. So, yeah.
01:02:15
Tackles and Tinnies
True.
01:02:17
Jake
Like, no Jerome Hughes. When it comes like, the main man who's getting the ball and, like, around that middle, it's going to be Munster demanding it.
01:02:25
Tackles and Tinnies
Yep.
01:02:27
Jake
All it takes is a couple of kicks, ah ah coats.
01:02:27
Tackles and Tinnies
Yep.
01:02:29
Jake
There's a few choices for you. So...
01:02:32
Tackles and Tinnies
But Jake, I think the issue you're going to be running into now, my friend, is that who's your pod? It might be at center wing. I haven't heard that one yet.
01:02:40
Jake
I wouldn't even um won't even say I have a pod.
01:02:40
Tackles and Tinnies
But
01:02:42
Jake
I'm just going for all the stars, mate, and they're just going to deliver for me, just safe across the park.
01:02:46
Tackles and Tinnies
but if everyone's got all the stars, my friend, where are you going to get your points from?
01:02:53
Jake
I don't know.
01:02:54
Tackles and Tinnies
That's why you're ranked 19,000. True. We'll see.
01:02:55
Jake
Maybe the vice and the captain.
01:02:57
Tackles and Tinnies
ah but
01:02:57
Jake
Maybe the vice and the captain. So that double, triple point special.
01:02:59
Tackles and Tinnies
let' say Yeah, I do like that. All right, center wing. Now, I've been wanting him for a long time, and I was in a hole in New Zealand at the time, and I couldn't get him because I was literally underground.
01:03:14
Tackles and Tinnies
But Marky Mark, you're making an appearance finally on Who's Your Pappy. He's in scintillating form. Chris, you've sort of got me scared now with the Daniel Tupo slam dunking on Katoa's head.
01:03:29
Tackles and Tinnies
But... Feed the man the ball. Let him cook. Let it ride, I reckon. can Let the momentum keep going. Who you guys got, Jakey? Who you got
01:03:38
Jake
Yeah, and walking near towaza I've jumped on board, mate.
01:03:41
Tackles and Tinnies
got? Yeah.
01:03:43
Tackles and Tinnies
40%.
01:03:43
Jake
So, yeah, I told you, mate, everyone's going to be having the same finals team.
01:03:49
Jake
It's insane.
01:03:49
Tackles and Tinnies
forty percent
01:03:49
Jake
There's going to be little things. So, yeah, he is just, he's cooking at the moment. Honestly, he is a freak. It wouldn't even surprise me if he gets like, yeah, one of the one of the wingers of the year spots.
01:04:05
Jake
Like he's just been sensational. So especially for his first season in the NRL as well.
01:04:07
Tackles and Tinnies
Yep.
01:04:10
Jake
It's a shame he can't lock down what like the rookie rookie of the year.
01:04:14
Tackles and Tinnies
Yep.
01:04:15
Jake
I believe he got out, like he's been ruled out for that. But yeah, it's it's Mark for sure for me at this stage. Yeah, is I've i'm had him pretty much all season as well.
01:04:28
Jake
So yeah, I'm excited to have him, watch him score big. It'll be great.
01:04:34
Tackles and Tinnies
Here you got Chris.
01:04:36
Chris
I got Casey McGluehans.
01:04:38
Tackles and Tinnies
What?
01:04:40
Chris
Yeah.
01:04:43
Tackles and Tinnies
Wild.
01:04:43
Jake
I hope you do. i actually hope you do, Chris.
01:04:46
Chris
Yeah, he is.
01:04:47
Jake
I wish you did. i hope
Player Selection Strategies and Fullback Discussion
01:04:48
Jake
you do.
01:04:49
Chris
like
01:04:49
Jake
will be so good.
01:04:50
Chris
Look, seriously, at least like last week, I just watched DWZ just keep going in on and just allowing Lehigh Hopawati just to score, you know, just untouched in the wing, you know, in the corner every single time the first two, like in the first 15, 20 minutes of that game.
01:05:09
Chris
what's i gonna say i i wanted to put it actually on tom jenkins but this today i just saw it was poor alamotti and i was just like i don't know like it's just it's a 4 p.m game like usually it's three and five and sometimes i get my times mixed up i was just worried i'm just gonna miss kickoff and i'm just gonna forget who i'm supposed to pick and i'm just gonna accidentally pick alamotti i'm just gonna find out tom jenkins is playing and and and poor alamotti's not playing so went okay i'll just put it on casey mclean yeah he's been scoring heaps of tries and stuff like that and
01:05:12
Tackles and Tinnies
Thank you.
01:05:34
Chris
And it's a little bit like, and, you know, and it's, and my thing is this, I have no idea where the ball is going in that rooster's back line. It could be left. It could be right.
01:05:44
Chris
And, but I can tell you exactly where the ball is going and where it's not leaving once it gets there. And that's Casey McLean. It just ends there.
01:05:54
Tackles and Tinnies
That's true. And I think that's a good point too, Chris, as well. Casey McLuhan is probably going to be up against Kurt Capewell. So he's going to probably want to face on that.
01:06:03
Chris
Yeah, yeah.
01:06:04
Tackles and Tinnies
So that's a not a bad pod.
01:06:05
Chris
Oh,
01:06:07
Tackles and Tinnies
Might have to steal that. So...
01:06:09
Chris
completely forgot about, I didn't even realize, i didn't think about curb cable as well, but yeah, yeah, I totally knew that. Yeah, totally.
01:06:15
Tackles and Tinnies
a
01:06:15
Chris
That was my plan.
01:06:17
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah, that's interesting. Okay, so Jake, you had Marky Mark. I had Marky Mark. Chris, Kasich, McLuhans. Who would have thought? Quite poetic boys. We've sort of gone full circle here on tackles and tinnies.
01:06:28
Tackles and Tinnies
Kind of like it. Now, I reckon we're all goingnna have the same guy. is it Rhys Lightning? Rhys Plumbing?
01:06:37
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah.
01:06:38
Chris
he's my say
01:06:39
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah.
01:06:39
Jake
Pretty much. Pretty much. I've got and Teddy at fullback and I've actually got Walsh in my flex.
01:06:41
Tackles and Tinnies
What do
01:06:45
Tackles and Tinnies
Okay. Interesting.
01:06:47
Jake
Just to jump early.
01:06:47
Tackles and Tinnies
Who you in your flex position, Chris?
01:06:49
Chris
teddy
01:06:51
Tackles and Tinnies
Teddy. Okay. I'm not going Tedesco because notoriously the Sharks have nerfed every single fullback. So I'm opting not to go Tedesco and I've actually gone Dylan Edwards for that matchup.
01:07:08
Tackles and Tinnies
sell me on Tedesco. The future Dalliem winner, Jake, why Tedesco?
01:07:14
Jake
Once again, I just reckon the Roosters are in great form. I know earlier i was saying that I do see the Sharks winning, but Roosters have just been on.
01:07:26
Jake
And if they decide to turn up, then yeah, Teddy will be obviously a hot chance of scoring well. Yeah, he might not, but it's the exact same thing with kind of Walshie too.
01:07:38
Jake
feel like my two fullbacks with Walsh and Tedesco at the moment, Like, yeah, both the teams have just been in and really good form the past few weeks. so yeah, happy to put my confidence in them too.
01:07:50
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah. What reckon, Chris?
01:07:52
Chris
Yeah, Teddy, he's number one super coach player in the competition. Like, you know, good form. He's the one that can go really, really big. His ceiling's even bigger than Edwards' 189 only a few weeks ago.
01:08:05
Chris
Yeah, you make a great point with the Sharks in terms of their fullback killers. But Edwards, in comparison, not as good form. Caleri keeps stunting his you know he's his points. He's often just presenting on that right-hand side it just as just as a decoy, and then they'll pass it left to Yo, and it goes through the hands to Cleary, Lungy, and then McLean.
01:08:33
Chris
So therefore, I just and is worried, and he's dropped a few of the you know few of those high balls recently, and he just been getting grossing as many metres as well, and taking as many hit-ups and stuff like that.
01:08:39
Tackles and Tinnies
yeah
01:08:40
Jake
Thank you.
01:08:43
Chris
So i've therefore, I've gone, go Teddy. you know yeah There's a higher chance he'll go big. Yeah. yeah
Captaincy Choices and Strategy Reflections
01:08:49
Tackles and Tinnies
It's a tough decision, eh? Actually, so, so tough. Yeah, I'd love Tedesco, but if it wasn't the Sharks, literally any other team, it just wasn't the Sharks, he'd be instantly in my team.
01:09:02
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah.
01:09:04
Tackles and Tinnies
Is there anyone else besides Tedesco and Edwards?
01:09:04
Jake
Who do you tip, Brian?
01:09:05
Jake
very Who do you think is going to win out of Sharks and Roosters?
01:09:05
Tackles and Tinnies
for Sorry?
01:09:09
Jake
I forget who you tipped.
01:09:10
Tackles and Tinnies
I don't think I gave my pick, actually.
01:09:13
Tackles and Tinnies
I think the Roosters win. I just don't think Tedesco goes 120. Does Edwards? Probably not. But, yeah, Tedesco's flaws are so good, eh?
01:09:25
Tackles and Tinnies
It's like he's getting 70, but could...
01:09:28
Jake
Mate, the one I gave you my tip. The Wires are winning by four or six or whatever I said. So, yeah, you don't you don't want you don't want Edwards, mate.
01:09:35
Tackles and Tinnies
That's true.
01:09:37
Jake
You don't want Edwards in there.
01:09:38
Tackles and Tinnies
That's true. oh it's tough. I probably would change my mind, be a little pussy and go with the crowd because I'm too nervous.
01:09:46
Jake
yeah Every finals team the same. Follow the trend.
01:09:49
Tackles and Tinnies
of
01:09:50
Jake
Come on, mate.
01:09:51
Tackles and Tinnies
Kiss method.
01:09:53
Jake
Ha, ha, ha, ha.
01:09:55
Tackles and Tinnies
Okay, that's fair. Now, boys, captaincies and vice captains. Obviously, there's no looping, so it's just gung-ho vibe. Who's feeling hot?
01:10:06
Tackles and Tinnies
And tell you who's feeling smoking hot right now, Rhys Plumbing. He's my captain. We got any differences here?
01:10:13
Tackles and Tinnies
Straight in.
01:10:13
Chris
Yep, he's my captain too.
01:10:15
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah, okay. And I'm assuming...
01:10:16
Jake
Nah, he's... I've got a difference, sorry. i was nodding to difference.
01:10:19
Tackles and Tinnies
but Oh, sorry.
01:10:20
Jake
He's my vice captain at the moment, Roosie.
01:10:20
Tackles and Tinnies
Yep.
01:10:23
Tackles and Tinnies
Okay. Who's your captain then, Jake?
01:10:25
Jake
Yeah. Nathan. Nathan Cleary.
01:10:29
Chris
but But he's going to lose to New Zealand Warriors by four.
01:10:31
Tackles and Tinnies
Contradicting.
01:10:32
Jake
Yeah, yeah. It's going to
01:10:33
Chris
Oh, man.
01:10:36
Chris
all
01:10:43
Tackles and Tinnies
I like the way you think.
01:10:43
Chris
it
01:10:43
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah, exactly. Dylan Edwards, 200 points. Thank you for proving my point.
01:10:50
Jake
So, yeah.
01:10:52
Tackles and Tinnies
Now I'm rattled. oh
01:10:56
Tackles and Tinnies
Who's your Chris? No, Tedesco.
01:10:56
Chris
double
01:11:00
Chris
It's Nathan Cleary.
01:11:03
Tackles and Tinnies
no tesco
01:11:05
Chris
Nah, I just think they're going to go, like, I just, there's a very good chance they just go big against, against New Zealand. Yeah. The only reason I haven't put the C on him is just in case the game is close, just in case the Warriors show up, you know, against, you know at home, you know, big, big Waz crowd and stuff of that. Yeah.
01:11:22
Chris
And also just in case he gets jet lagged or something like that. Or he just doesn't get involved in the points as in he's the first receiver and then Talangi or Edwards gets all the points.
01:11:25
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah.
01:11:31
Tackles and Tinnies
yeah
01:11:31
Chris
So I think that if somebody's going get all the points, it's going be Walsh. It has to be Walsh. Either gets nothing or he's going to go massive at the Rocks and Diamonds.
01:11:39
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah, CEO, baby. He's the CEO of Rocks and
01:11:41
Chris
Oh, oh.
01:11:43
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah, I've got Walsh as my C, and then my vice captain. I've currently got Edwards. So we'll see. The Edwards could be changed out, could go with the crowd, do the Jake model, and just stick with the pack. But, yeah, I could even just go absolutely smoke. And if Falongo gets into the team,
01:12:05
Tackles and Tinnies
I actually might just pick Falon Galt Flex and just have a punt, chuck him with a VC, see what happens. I mean, he's not super coach proven at all, but again, there's so little room to make a ah make a ah splash.
01:12:19
Tackles and Tinnies
Why not just vibe? Suarez, the most vibey player with Reece Walsh in the league, I reckon. So we will see you there.
01:12:25
Chris
He just has no base. That's my problem.
01:12:27
Tackles and Tinnies
No, guys, I'm aware.
01:12:27
Chris
Like, yeah.
01:12:28
Tackles and Tinnies
know.
01:12:29
Chris
well I mean, it's it's like jump jumping on Weeks. Yeah, i'm not i'm not I'm not against it. you know weekses is such a vibey player too, and he could go massive.
01:12:36
Tackles and Tinnies
yeah
01:12:36
Chris
You just don't know when he's going to go massive. But, you know, fun. Yeah, that's how we do it.
01:12:40
Tackles and Tinnies
yeah that's 100 so that's interesting so again whether it gets eliminated or gets the buy next week we reload we go again so it'll be interesting to see how the strategies work and again obviously you guys talked uh great depth there Now, that's the final series.
01:12:58
Tackles and Tinnies
Now, Chris, you've done a fantastic job and i actually haven't gone through the document. So while I'm stalling and getting you to take this next section, I'm going to quickly go look through that document and you are going to tell us what homework you have done.
01:13:13
Chris
Oh, okay. Yeah, sure. So thought I'd do analysis on how well you, Adam, Jake, Andy, and I, the co-hosts of this pod, went this season with our captaincy. You know, this whole season, we always theorize random things. We're like, oh, you know, I'm just going to put the captaincy on Haas. Would I have done better? Or should just put it on or something like that really early on?
01:13:37
Chris
you know, and and we were all just making shit up really. So i was like, one why we just have a look and just see what would I've been better if I just put the captaincy on Teddy, you know, the entire season. And, and pretty much what I found was, uh, yes, for Jake, uh, sadly, you would have done better this season in terms your captaincy averages.
01:13:58
Chris
If you had to simply put it on Teddy or us for that matter.
01:13:59
Jake
Yeah.
01:14:03
Chris
Yeah.
01:14:03
Jake
yeah
01:14:03
Chris
So, uh, just very briefly, This season, Jake had an average overall captaincy of 87.
01:14:14
Chris
And Teddy had an average this season of 89 88.9. Andy had the second worst.
01:14:24
Chris
Actually, he actually had the yeah second worst captain average at 87.6. So he'd just beat you by a little bit. Adam was the best, 101. hundred And then Ryan 101. and then ryan was a hundred and one point for just a little bit behind Adam.
01:14:37
Chris
i'm Sorry, Adam was 1 on 1.5.
01:14:37
Tackles and Tinnies
Oh, shit. Yeah.
01:14:39
Chris
Yeah. it's crazy, actually, because, Ryan, you finished... You jumped on Rhys Walsh.
01:14:46
Tackles and Tinnies
Well, yeah.
01:14:47
Chris
Yeah, and you averaged 136 in the final seven rounds from round 21 to 27.
01:14:53
Tackles and Tinnies
well yeah
01:14:53
Chris
To try to put that in perspective, I had a look at your teams, and I basically tallied up the best captain's average you could pick up in round 21 27. And um was basically the highest player on your in each round in your team.
01:15:10
Chris
And if you had captained that correctly every single week, you would have any you wouldve scored or averaged 158.9. So really you were like less than like 20. You were like 20 points off, you know, captains making the ideal dream run.
01:15:24
Chris
So, and you pretty much went something from like, an average of like 85 after round 20, all the way to 101.
01:15:30
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah.
01:15:31
Chris
Yeah, just based on capturing Walsh.
01:15:33
Tackles and Tinnies
Crazy.
01:15:33
Chris
So it was insane. was insane. Jake, you and I were pretty good at picking the best captain each week, actually. Both of us got eight out of, got it right eight times, actually, out of 27. Yeah. Where we really sucked, actually. So we actually did, all of us did really, really good in the first 10 rounds and also in the final seven rounds.
01:15:54
Chris
But in the middle when it was like winter and everyone was cold and I think we just got a little bit bit of a lull during the bye rounds. Adam was still averaging 96 with his captain and the rest of us were averaging about 75 to 84 really.
01:16:06
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah. Yeah.
01:16:11
Chris
So that's where we lost a lot of points really. But in terms of who had the best captaincy overall, in terms of, and had you know, had the best run overall, in terms of how many points did you miss?
01:16:23
Chris
ah Ryan, you actually had the best, as in you made the best captains overall. Essentially, you you only lost 26% of potential points in terms of picking the best captain each week.
01:16:36
Chris
Yeah. And that was actually better than Adam. Yeah, who finished a third, which we forgot to talk about this whole this all one hour of conversation.
01:16:43
Tackles and Tinnies
I may as well be number three in Australia. Is that what you saying
01:16:47
Chris
Yeah. No, it basically it means you're good at picking captains, you suck everything else, and you're picking all the other players in Supercoach.
01:16:54
Tackles and Tinnies
you're saying?
01:16:58
Jake
adam Adam would have came first if you gave him your captaincy tips, Ryan, essentially.
01:16:58
Chris
He
01:17:02
Tackles and Tinnies
I did tell him to go Reece Walsh. I did say Reece Walsh.
01:17:05
Chris
told you to go re-smash. Yeah.
01:17:07
Tackles and Tinnies
When in doubt, Reece Plumman. so
01:17:10
Chris
yeah yeah yeah
01:17:12
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah, mate, that's unreal. As you're reading, I'm going through the chart and I'll – listeners, I'll post it on YouTube and um guys can have a little look through.
01:17:22
Tackles and Tinnies
So comprehensive, Chris. Absolutely killed it. And I think the biggest anomaly for majority of us, and you nailed it on the head, Chris, is that buy-around period, like the origin time.
01:17:34
Tackles and Tinnies
Struggled big time, man.
01:17:36
Chris
yeah yeah i definitely remember struggling really badly i definitely did real bad as well because i picked drinky for 14 and also 33 in two of those rounds when i really didn't need to i remember i had like a vc on like teddy for like 90 or something both times and i was like nah force to the walls let's go baby drinking and then he just got absolutely hammered i remember by by the dot the fins i think they lost like 50 to 12 like kirby's score one hundred and fifty herby was in my team i went I've got to turn off the TV and then I think I didn't reply to the chat for like 24 hours and you guys had the welfare check me.
01:18:13
Jake
Yeah, no, wonderful work from you there, Chris.
01:18:14
Tackles and Tinnies
oh yeah
01:18:16
Jake
I can definitely recall some of my scars of maybe some like 55s from Pappy roughly.
01:18:21
Tackles and Tinnies
yeah
01:18:22
Jake
I think my one of my worst could have been a 38 from Ellicat. for a Smokey and yeah, that did not did not pay off one game. So... Yeah, I think it is nice to reflect on yeah your captaincy choices throughout the year.
01:18:36
Jake
So yeah, obviously me and you, I think, went as you said, did pretty good getting eight out of 27 or whatever we got. But I also reckon I could have picked at times my lowest scoring player somehow that I managed to captain throughout throughout the season too, which really hurt.
01:18:53
Jake
so But yeah, great work, Chris. Really well done.
01:18:56
Chris
Yeah. I'd also say just a two really quick takeaways as well. One, you know, for the listeners, if you guys are like super interested in terms of, you know, going, Hey, why did I do well? Especially if you did bad this season, like don't take, you know, take heart, you know, because, you know,
01:19:09
Chris
know, elite players, you know, like, know, Timmy Williams, you know, who, who, who hosts, you SC Playbook and, you know, was runner up in like the 2019 2020 or something like that. You know, last year he finished out like outside the top 10K, I think, or barely inside. And this year he finished, you know, 500th or 600th, you know, and,
01:19:27
Chris
you know And you have good years and you have bad years and Desi Creek who who won Superkojax in 2018 or 19, this year he finished 3,000 when he was really upset about himself as well. you know he expects so he always he says He said he expected himself to finish in the top 1K every time and you just can't have those years. but if you're kind of struggling to go, hey, why did I do bad? Or, you know, you want to do better for next season.
01:19:47
Chris
A really good tip was maybe just to go evaluate your captaincy scores and just say, did you captain someone right? Did you captain someone bad? And also do the same for the trades really and see, hey, why did I trade this person out? And what did I do wrong? And in hindsight, you know, would I have done this again the next year?
01:20:02
Chris
And then the second takeaway was Ryan and Jake, you we always talk about, yeah, just in the first 10 rounds, maybe we should consider like captaining a, uh, for a front row forward or to our ref whilst, you know, offences still clunky.
01:20:16
Chris
Turns out that's actually not right. So, for example, the first 10 rounds, we all averaged something around 93 to 106, all of us, all five of us. And think half the times average time was averaged something like 80 to 90.
01:20:30
Chris
So it wasn't a huge difference. There was a few, some, a few things got skewed, you know, all five of us jumped on Pappy for his 182 in round 10 against the Tigers, for example. So those averages got skewed a little bit, but, it's kind of, yeah.
01:20:41
Tackles and Tinnies
well Not all of us, my friend. I missed out on that captaincy. i remember clearly. Yeah.
01:20:47
Chris
Oh, tears, my friend.
01:20:48
Tackles and Tinnies
but
01:20:50
Chris
But, uh, but basically I think it pays actually, believe it or not. often, you know, to really look at, you know, who the best player is and not just jump on a front row forward.
Supercoach Experience and Trading Strategies
01:20:59
Chris
And it turns out at least maybe it could just be this year where things have been more attacking.
01:21:05
Chris
And I think the trend is also ah ah like scoring a lot more because of the wingers being way more athletic. 10 years ago, you didn't see people doing, you know, DWZ or Xavier Coates finishes, you know, in the corner, those ridiculous corners.
01:21:17
Chris
You know, and not every team, you know, if you want to be a winger, you have to be making those finishes. And I think as a result, the score is a lot higher as well. And so therefore, I think you should always, yeah, try to captain a fullback or a halfback or centre where possible.
01:21:31
Tackles and Tinnies
So in other words, to our recap, stack the pack method for captaincy with Terrell, Major Terrell and Big Pain Haas, not the go.
01:21:44
Tackles and Tinnies
Disappointing. It sounded good in theory.
01:21:47
Chris
Yeah, but the stats don't add up.
01:21:49
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah, analytics, always trust the numbers, money ball time, baby. Jake can understand that one. so now i asked and i posed the question last week and i've been pondering my thoughts today regarding trades so bloody two years in a row i'm going to quickly rattle off some plays in my team that absolutely dead would because of i've got no trades left harry grant and then i've had Ruben Garrick and I've had Jacob Karaz rotting on my bench for the past couple of rounds and I've had no trades.
01:22:28
Tackles and Tinnies
I've been real compulsive and all year I've been channeling my inner money man, Christian Tupolotu. And at one stage I had so much cash, I felt like a Nigerian prince, but We ran out trades.
01:22:43
Tackles and Tinnies
So my thing that I've learned the most from this year, and I'll pose the same question to you guys. What have you learned the most from this year, Supercoach? I need to stop being so impulsive and jumping onto major cash grabs.
01:22:58
Tackles and Tinnies
Carapane, for example. It could have been a guy like Bostock. There's obviously been many guys throughout the season. Christian Tupolotu when he popped off or Clint Gutherson when he was popping off at one stage.
01:23:12
Tackles and Tinnies
Not having those impulse buys. Yes, cash generation is so important, but holding trade, especially in the last five to six rounds, I think I made...
01:23:25
Tackles and Tinnies
three trades and seven rounds or something stupid like obviously you have your set team and you just ride it to the end but i missed out on a lot of points and i honestly reckon if i was a bit less impulsive and i held an extra probably three to five trades i honestly think i could have made the top 250 like that's how confident i i was thinking where i could have gone to What are your thoughts on that comment, Jake?
01:23:57
Jake
Yeah, look, I wouldn't be so critical on yourself, mate. You're finishing, what, the high 800s or whatever it is. You've scored like your biggest biggest score you've ever got, like just this week gone.
01:24:12
Jake
It's like, come on, mate. It's like, I reckon I can just do the same thing next year and and try and try maybe get a little bit luckier and maybe work on the captaincies or something like that.
01:24:24
Jake
Yeah, I wouldn't be too critical of yourself. Like, geez, man, I finished 17,921 or whatever it was.
01:24:28
Chris
Thank you.
01:24:32
Jake
So yeah, you had a phenomenal year. So definitely don't be too critical on yourself. Use those trades, mate. You've used them wisely. So I'm in a similar boat. I'm out of trades. I've had Jerome Hughes out for a little bit there.
01:24:45
Jake
Jacob Karaz, Ruben Garrick over the past week, past few weeks. so yeah, injuries happen. and yeah, that way I swear just everyone everyone was going down as well.
01:24:56
Jake
Like about six weeks ago where like all the chats and all we werere talking about was like the carnage that was happening.
01:25:00
Tackles and Tinnies
Oh, Jake, I'll give you one straight up, and we both did it after Origin Game 3, Val Holmes. That was an annoying one.
01:25:07
Jake
Yes. Yep, definitely. So yeah, the, the injury, the injuries that started to happen was just insane. So, um, feel like we definitely probably could have had a ah cheeky few few trades off our sleeves then we could have delivered mate.
01:25:22
Jake
So yeah, yeah i I would like to say I'll learn a lot from this year, but as soon as an next year starts, and there's some fantastic little chiefies around for 198 or grand again.
01:25:37
Jake
You watch me jump straight on board. So I'll never change.
01:25:40
Tackles and Tinnies
yeah Now, Jake, I want to pose this to you, mate.
01:25:42
Chris
Never changed.
01:25:43
Jake
I'll never change. All right. I'll never change.
01:25:45
Tackles and Tinnies
Because at the start of the year, you were like, I'm going to be head-to-head.
01:25:45
Chris
okay
01:25:49
Tackles and Tinnies
I'm getting number one. I'm getting the 50K. And then literally after round three, after the price changes, you're like, I'm back to cheapy watch. I'm getting every cheapy. I'm on the cast gen. I'm a Nigerian prince.
01:26:01
Tackles and Tinnies
That's pretty much what you said, I quote. So... What are you going to do differently? So you really want to be a head-to-head. You want to get to the top 1K next year. You've said this explicitly to me.
01:26:14
Tackles and Tinnies
What?
01:26:15
Jake
Yeah, I'm going to be overall next year, definitely.
01:26:16
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah. Yeah.
01:26:18
Tackles and Tinnies
No fingers crossed or anything, mate. Okay.
01:26:18
Jake
Yeah.
01:26:19
Jake
No, no, no. Nothing
01:26:22
Chris
Mm-hmm.
01:26:22
Tackles and Tinnies
What will you do differently for your starting team then?
01:26:27
Jake
here. Look, I'll definitely have to assess it, but I think i think my main goal would probably be to have like a strong strong starting 18. Yeah.
01:26:38
Jake
see what kind of cash I have left over. It'll be hard to obviously assess those prices at the time. and But i'll be I'll be going in for like just a ah ah strong 18, I think next year and just fill the team. I don't really want to have enoughs.
01:26:54
Jake
I'll be looking for whatever potential cheapies I can kind of find just to fill in spots and probably put a little bit more effort into like the the buy schedules as well when I pick my team at the very start of the year.
01:27:07
Jake
like really invest some time into the buy rounds and what teams are going to be off and kind of foresee that if I can. But and I don't know, mate, you should see the beginning of every year, the screenshots that I take of the 30 different teams that I build leading into super coach is ridiculous.
01:27:25
Jake
I started the season with Huddy Young and I've got screenshots to prove it, but then come round one, he wasn't in my team and he absolutely popped off. So half of it's luck.
01:27:37
Jake
Yeah, I just got to stick to my guns and yeah, we'll see how we go. So by the end of the day, my goal is just to beat you two lads next year, I reckon. So yeah, that's it.
01:27:45
Tackles and Tinnies
good luck son
01:27:47
Jake
for it Bring it. Bring on next week. Bring on finals. We'll see how this little finals cheeky thing goes.
01:27:51
Tackles and Tinnies
yeah chris what about you mate what have you learned
01:27:56
Chris
Yeah, look, I'll briefly touch on your subject as well since we're on it. i won I won't go too deep into it only because, you know, we probably we do it another podcast about it. But no, I'm still a big believer on trading and boosting hard early on.
01:28:13
Chris
But as you guys have alluded to, I had six trades at the beginning of round 19 this year after the the final major buy round. It clearly wasn't enough. And, you know, the injury carnage, suspensions of the rest of things, they all took their toll.
01:28:28
Chris
And, you know, I missed out on, for example, Reece Walsh because how few trades I had. Next year, I'm going to just ensure that I aim to still have 12 trades just going to the major, the final minor buy round next year.
01:28:40
Chris
that's That's my rule next year. Yeah. And in many ways, I'm going to, you know, I'm going to do that by you know avoiding you know just making random vibey trades because I can.
01:28:50
Chris
you know
01:28:52
Chris
yeah ill talk can talk more of that in detail that, but very briefly, for example, if in in a case in point was round 11 when I decided, you know I don't know why, but I just randomly decided Conditracee was a must buy.
01:29:06
Chris
And he subsequently scored me 27 and I realised I'd made a big mistake. Yeah. But, yeah. And just simply by not doing that, that would just been, you trade him in, trade him out.
01:29:19
Chris
That would just be two trades. Straight away, I've gone from six to having eight for next year, pretty much.
01:29:25
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah.
Importance of Team and Player Selections
01:29:25
Chris
Yeah.
01:29:25
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah. It's just once you're at the top, Chris, and you can understand, Jake, you would get there next year, mate. But,
01:29:33
Chris
One
01:29:36
Tackles and Tinnies
you,
01:29:36
Chris
good season, he's just...
01:29:37
Tackles and Tinnies
yeah
01:29:38
Jake
I've learned, I've learned, buy Herbie, not Osaka. I've learned, learned.
01:29:41
Tackles and Tinnies
There we go, son. There we go. I think the biggest thing too, and I've said at the start, I sort of went against myself in some aspects, but you got to get the guys who are in the good teams. Like you really got to avoid those pooslingers and – I was like, yeah, Ponga. Ponga was probably like my biggest in turbo.
01:30:03
Tackles and Tinnies
think it was like probably both of those guys I traded in three times. There's like six trades, I reckon, overall, five to six trades for those two players alone because of their their history and their upside. But they're on shit teams.
01:30:17
Tackles and Tinnies
Like, especially the nights where was like, Pong is surely. Like, I remember vividly, i was like, I'm getting drink water. I'm getting drink water. I had him in. You guys remember the conversation. I'm getting drink water in. His time's about right.
01:30:30
Tackles and Tinnies
And I'm like, Pong is 100K less. Pong is 100. Pong gets a Dallium. Pong is this. He converts. He does blah, blah, blah, blah. blah And then...
01:30:42
Tackles and Tinnies
gets injured, get him back in, gets injured, plays shit, gets 50 points, gets 20 points. Surely he's got to bounce back, hold him for too long. You get the idea. Drops down to four hundred and forty five k like, oh shit, can't get anyone else because everyone else is popping off and all a sudden bloody...
01:30:57
Tackles and Tinnies
ah ah drinky He's popped off to about $800,000. He's out of my price range now. And then I've got to go to a guy like Turbo. I'm in the exact same boat where Turbo's on a shit team.
01:31:08
Tackles and Tinnies
He's got hamstring injuries. He's got an MCL injury. He's, yeah, you know the drill. I think, yeah, again, I said it before. and i said it the very start the Avoid the guys who are on shit teams.
01:31:22
Tackles and Tinnies
And to go with that as well, I think next year to start with, if I'm going to go those high upside guys like a Tom Trubojevic, because he's going to be at center wing, and I think we'll leave that conversation for another podcast the content.
01:31:36
Tackles and Tinnies
But those type of guys, I think you have to start with them. I probably don't want to be trading them in. It's just too much risk of burning those trades. What do you reckon, Jake? Yeah.
01:31:50
Jake
Yeah, look, you definitely touched on a lot there. And I've definitely been hearing from you not like, or to avoid like the players in the weaker teams essentially.
01:31:59
Chris
Thank you.
01:32:03
Jake
But at the same time, that could like, you just got look at the Penriths like first half of the year. Pretty sure they're in the bottom eight for a significant amount of time.
01:32:12
Jake
So if you're purely looking at the ladder, like with Penrith, the shit team, do you avoid all the Penrith stars?
01:32:12
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah.
01:32:18
Tackles and Tinnies
Well, you did it inside of you.
01:32:19
Jake
So yeah. Oh, not Nathan Cleary. i was, yeah, he was straight inmate and I was holding onto him for sure.
01:32:25
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah. Well, he's the exception.
01:32:27
Jake
So, but yeah, and that's, and that's exactly what it is. Like you're still going to have some stars and some, and some weaker teams as well. Like look at JC and AJ, like for the Titans who were,
01:32:40
Jake
nearly a certainty for the spoon until like last last week, this weekend i just gone. So yeah, and they can produce some monster scores.
01:32:46
Chris
Thank you.
01:32:48
Jake
So there's definitely a lot of things to consider. But yeah, when the when the better teams are on, they're obviously scoring a lot more points. Like they're finding the line a lot more often.
01:32:58
Jake
And yeah, that's where you got to find a lot more points. So it definitely makes a lot of sense as well. So there's always learning curves. definitely is a lot of luck. as well at the same time. And yeah, there's so much, so much to consider. So, I don't know, maybe, best thing is just to try and get some more advice off Adam, see if he's happy to share.
01:33:19
Jake
So that's, that's probably where I'll be, I'll be leaning in even off YouTube boys.
01:33:22
Tackles and Tinnies
But Adam does the typical, I'm going to say one thing and does the opposite. He's notorious over the years. so but
01:33:32
Jake
yeah
01:33:32
Tackles and Tinnies
What about you, Chris?
01:33:32
Jake
so
01:33:34
Chris
yeah, I, do it's funny because that is actually the one thing I remember from the first podcast you and I did together. It was, we had an argument about, or not an argument, but just a disagreement as to, you know, like, Hey, never pick players on shit teams.
01:33:51
Chris
And I straight away went, well, I, that means I got to better get JC and Tino out of my team.
01:33:52
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah.
01:33:58
Chris
It's what I said back to you. yeah And, and I think, I think, It's not, I think I would amend that rule a little bit. I don't think it's necessary don't pick players on bad teams. Yeah, try not to pick them.
01:34:11
Chris
But I think the exception would be, you know, if they're cash cows or proven guns, you know, like JC or Drinky or Lomax.
01:34:15
Tackles and Tinnies
yeah
01:34:19
Chris
Like, I think that you would amend it or almost to no captaining players on shit teams. And when I'm made by shit teams, it doesn't have to be the bottom eight. You know, a lot it's like Jake said.
01:34:29
Chris
You know, these players, teams like Panthers, they were in the bottom eight most of the season. Same as the Finns. The Roosters were out Sammy Walker. They were actually kind of teetering outside the eight for much of the season too.
01:34:42
Chris
You know, they got smashed, you know, 60, 65, 60 nil pretty much by by the Bronx in the first round. but I think it's just more case. Yeah. Don't captain, don't captain these players like JC.
01:34:53
Chris
There's just too much risk that, you know, bad team, you know, it gets blown out as uncompetitive or the classic like momentum killer, which is like, you simply, just knock the ball on in great attacking positions and their Titans are, you know, the best example of that.
01:35:08
Chris
And in that, because those situations, either your captain never gets the ball to attack or they just lose so much game time standing underneath the goalposts that they just never accumulate massive base and,
01:35:12
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah.
01:35:18
Chris
You know, and there's going to be exceptions such as, for example, Drinky, you know, who was on, who's on a shit cows team, but they can attack. It's just that they leak way more points than they can make really.
01:35:25
Tackles and Tinnies
yeah
01:35:28
Chris
And then, you know, somebody like Lomax, who is just simply a psycho, just running the ball out of his half, you know, on each set. So he just accumulates at bay, same as Terrell May, you know, 60 plus minutes each week, which is non-existent for every other prop in the game.
01:35:42
Chris
You know, i think like, you know, JC I brought early this season, you know And it was all based on that one potential, that 170 that he scored last year you know against New Zealand in one of those major buy rounds, really.
01:35:53
Chris
So i thought that's that's one of my takeaways you know for for what you've said. But I really, really, the more and more i see you know play this game, the more I agree with you, Ryan, in terms of trying to avoid a lot of those bad teams because they can really be hit and miss, really rocks and diamonds. You don't really want that.
01:36:09
Tackles and Tinnies
Especially like on top of that too, if they're on a shit team and they are injury prone, that's just even bigger a red flag. Like Latrell Mitchell, yes, can be an absolute superstar, but how many times did he have a soft tissue injury or he got suspended or...
01:36:28
Tackles and Tinnies
the Rabideaus all of a sudden got decimated and he's playing three different positions in one game. So it's like, yeah, it's definitely a asterisk to all those things we just mentioned. But I don't want to like go through every single topic of night because this podcast is getting way too long for some listeners here and we want to get the content going on for the next coming few weeks.
01:36:48
Tackles and Tinnies
But a bit of homework and our beloved Adam promised he's coming on.
01:36:51
Chris
Thank you.
01:36:52
Tackles and Tinnies
So Adam, i know you're going to listening to this tomorrow sometime. I want to know exactly what you're doing and exactly who you're bringing in so I can just copy and paste for next year so I can take your number one spot.
01:37:04
Tackles and Tinnies
But...
Discussion Wrap-Up and Strategic Insights
01:37:05
Jake
No, don't think so, mate. So I think it's been been a good yarn.