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Tackles and Tinnies Presents: The Fantasy Files - R19 - E11: Chris in Charge, Adam in Orbit & Ryan Lost in NZ 🥝🇳🇿 image

Tackles and Tinnies Presents: The Fantasy Files - R19 - E11: Chris in Charge, Adam in Orbit & Ryan Lost in NZ 🥝🇳🇿

S1 E11 · Tackles and Tinnies
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With Ryan off galivanting around Middle-earth (or just lost somewhere between Queenstown and a brewery tour), Chris grabs the mic and runs riot in the Fantasy Files studio — and he’s brought backup.

Joining him is none other than SuperCoach demigod Adam, currently ranked 18th in Australia (yes, EIGHTEENTH 😱), to bring the data heat and emotional support as SuperCoach teams across the land buckle under injury chaos and Origin hangovers.

💥 This Week’s Fantasy Fireworks:

🔍 Buy, Hold, Sell — or Just Cry?
– Is Papi the iceberg sinking your rank?
– Karapani: Cult hero or cash trap?
– The Turbo gamble that may save (or destroy) your season.

🧠 Captaincy Choices: Chaos or Clarity?
– Adam reveals his insane vice-captain call (you won’t believe it).
– Chris is either playing it safe or playing 4D chess — we honestly can’t tell.

📉 State of Origin Fallout
– Restings, rotations & rethinks: navigating the post-Origin minefield.
– Could this be the sneaky POD play that breaks the template?

📬 Fan DMs & Listener Landmines
– We read your wildest trades, roast your panic sells & spotlight some absolute trap picks.
– Also: a heartfelt message from someone who captained Tino last week... we’re so sorry.

🎧 Whether you’re chasing rank or rage-trading in the carpark, this ep is for you.

👉 Listen now and bring tissues (for the laughs... and the SuperCoach pain).

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Transcript

Introduction and Episode Overview

00:00:00
Tackles and Tinnies
Hey, Tackle & Tinny listeners, guess who's back? It's your lads, Chris and Adam. ah Ryan is still in away. He's having an absolute gay old time in New Zealand. He tells me he's literally been living in a cave, but I guess I will let him tell you that story when he comes back on

Injury Updates and Trade Targets

00:00:18
Tackles and Tinnies
the pod.
00:00:18
Tackles and Tinnies
um It's round 19. It's the final mini bye round. um i feel like I say this every week, but man, there's been so much super coach relevant injury kind of yet again.
00:00:30
Tackles and Tinnies
Lots to talk about this week. Obviously, Round 9 trade targets, hooker issues, Nathan Cleary, Jerome Hughes, Nika Hines. Do we have to choose two of them only? Or, you know, as the saying goes, a threesome's always better.
00:00:43
Tackles and Tinnies
um Like always, like and subscribe on Spotify, your Apple podcast, whatever social media platform you're

Supercoach Rankings and Strategy Talk

00:00:51
Tackles and Tinnies
on. Like, it really helps us out, you know, so we can get, like, big-time celebrities on the show like Adam here.
00:00:57
Tackles and Tinnies
like How are you doing, Mr. Elite Supercoacher?
00:01:01
Adam
Oh, yeah, I'm good, man. It's getting cold here. Far out. um Yeah, no, good. It's going to be a big week of supercoats, keen to talk about it.
00:01:11
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah, awesome. Yeah, it's been, look, it's been cold here where I am, you know, in the in the suburb next to you. Look, Ryan is always going on about how he has made it to the big time, the top 1%.
00:01:25
Tackles and Tinnies
Tell the listeners where you're at and where he really should be, right? Really.
00:01:30
Adam
um So I'm sitting 18th overall the moment, which is great. um Had a pretty big green arrow this week. um So yeah, tracking well, but long way to go and not many trades left. soll we'll see what happens.
00:01:47
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah, I think most of us in the same boat as you. Like, we know you normally rank in like the top 1K each year. Like, have you done anything this year to make it into that top 20? Or is it just, you know, it's just good luck this year.
00:02:00
Adam
Oh, definitely a lot of luck. um I think, you know, there's been some good moves. I think, honestly, but the the biggest thing was just getting to Desco early.

Past Trades and Player Choices

00:02:08
Adam
Like, picking him up in round three when everyone else had Turbo and Turbo goes down, like, that just shot me right to the top, like, 100, and I've just been chilling there ever since. So...
00:02:20
Adam
um Yeah, that was the main thing. But, you know, there's been some good moves. There's been some bad moves. You can't get everything right, unfortunately. um But you don't need to That's the good thing, I guess. if You don't need to get everything right. you just need to get the key things right, usually.
00:02:34
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah, no, that that makes a lot of sense as well. like I remember a few rounds ago, i got drinky real early in, I think just before Magic Round or something like that, and that went real well for me and just shot me up through the rankings too.
00:02:44
Tackles and Tinnies
and you know But unlike you, i haven't stayed up there either. It's just been slowly dropping. Yeah, I picked in high school, is what some would say.
00:02:53
Adam
but You
00:02:55
Tackles and Tinnies
ah For me, this round, I scored 1,900. thousand and nine um i i shot up the ranks a little bit to 1900 um i traded in billy smith

Game Previews and Origin Speculation

00:03:08
Tackles and Tinnies
uh to mark no longer need a was a and then i moved papillon actually it' to kane bradley um and so yeah no it was pretty good nice i have green arrows for me as well really i really wanted to not trade last week at all but just uh just papillon carnage, you know, and I went from having like 13 plays to 11.
00:03:27
Tackles and Tinnies
So, you know, i just had to end up making trades. So yeah, six left now, which me luck.
00:03:32
Adam
No, I mean, they they were good trades. um You know, it's funny you mentioned Ryan is in a cave because you'd have to be living under a rock to not buy Noongani Tuase last week. And i flu ah unfortunately for Ryan, he did not.
00:03:41
Tackles and Tinnies
i Yeah, I know. When he said in our texts, he said, oh look, guys, I literally got out of the cave. i only thought he was just laughing. I just thought he was out of Wi-Fi.
00:03:55
Tackles and Tinnies
I didn't actually realize, you know, actually in the cave.
00:03:58
Adam
Yeah, that's interesting.
00:03:58
Tackles and Tinnies
Living dead too, multiple days.
00:04:00
Adam
Yeah, I um i mean, yeah, I traded Pappenhausen as well. So little bit scary seeing him named today for the Storm. um Knight's Wall this week. What do you reckon, Chris?
00:04:12
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah, yeah, look, that's one of the juiciest matchups this week. But, you know, I don't know what to think about it because I feel like the Knights have a really good defense and, you know, like they just can't score.
00:04:23
Tackles and Tinnies
That's just the issue. That's why they keep losing.
00:04:24
Adam
Yeah.
00:04:24
Tackles and Tinnies
They suck so much.
00:04:25
Adam
Yeah.
00:04:26
Tackles and Tinnies
But, you know, in terms of big scores being put on them, I don't know necessarily if the Storm will do that to them as well, you know. And also Storm sometimes play well, you know, in the first 20 minutes. If they don't do well, then it just becomes, you know, an 18 6 game, you know, and nobody scores big points.
00:04:40
Adam
And.
00:04:42
Tackles and Tinnies
You and i obviously we'll talk about Pappy as well, you know, one of our listener questions later today. um Did you want to talk about Origin as well or have you just, you know, succumbed to realise the fact logically that New South Wales will win?
00:04:57
Adam
Oh, look, I mean, you know, Queensland loves being the underdog and um the boys are going to rally around around money, you know. He's had a bit of a bit of a tragic week, unfortunately. So it would be pretty disrespectful of New South Wales to, you know, try and beat him tomorrow

Rivalries and Player Conditions

00:05:14
Adam
night.
00:05:15
Adam
So, yeah, exactly.
00:05:15
Tackles and Tinnies
Ruined the storyline.
00:05:18
Adam
um No, I think it would be a good game. I mean, i don't need as much to say, man. Like, the teams are the teams. It'll be fun. You know, New South Wales looks better on paper, but that's the case almost every year, so...
00:05:30
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah. do you have a prediction? Final score?
00:05:33
Adam
Oh...
00:05:34
Tackles and Tinnies
Make it up.
00:05:36
Adam
My gut... I mean, I feel like New South Wales is just a much better team. Like, even last game, Queensland got the run of... Like, rubber the green with the penalties early. It was like 8-0 penalties. New South Wales still almost came back and stole it and still scored more tries, so...
00:05:50
Adam
Yeah, like, probably... 36-16 to New South Wales, maybe.
00:05:55
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah.
00:05:56
Adam
i think they're going to put a lot of points on, but I hope if I'm wrong.
00:05:59
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah. Yeah, exactly right. Honestly, I think you're right. Like, I think that the guys arent going to just, yeah, rally around Munster. Obviously, you know, as long as he's mentally, you know, good to play, you know, you say good on him, you just hope he kills it, really, you know.
00:06:13
Tackles and Tinnies
Personally, I think, yeah, New South Wales wins as well. I think twenty five eighteen i think it's going to be pretty close. So long as we're not the end of yet another 8-0 first half penalty count, you know, Ash Clyde, as long pay him enough money, should be okay.
00:06:20
Adam
trying to say
00:06:24
Tackles and Tinnies
Should be okay.
00:06:25
Adam
he's He's been in the gym working on his whistleblowing, you know, working on his shoulder raises.
00:06:31
Tackles and Tinnies
Ready to ruin yet another Origin game this year for us.
00:06:32
Adam
thanks ah
00:06:37
Tackles and Tinnies
We'll very quickly just touch on injury carnage. Obviously, Ryan Paffenhausen, you know, he's been named today, but, you know, he had calf tightness and, you know, NRL physio reported that, you know, some of these can linger sometimes. and But he doesn't think that it will affect his goal kicking at all. I don't think, you know, he would lose it to Nick Meany.
00:06:54
Tackles and Tinnies
If he's out again, you probably can consider Dylan Edwards or Latrell Mitchell. ah Billy s Smith, if he's out for one to two weeks of a knee injury.
00:07:01
Adam
Thank you.
00:07:02
Tackles and Tinnies
Brandon Smith, he did his MCL as well. He's out for eight weeks. I'd say don't go by Peter Mamazoulas. He's not a downgrade option. He's going to lose minutes to Saliba Havili. In team list Tuesday, ah Cleary, Yo, Edwards, Toppo, all the Panthers, Oregon Stars, they've been able to on the extent bench.
00:07:23
Tackles and Tinnies
Sandon Smith, he's named at 20. He's not even in the team at all, ah ah following Sam Walker coming back. Haas, Tino, Lomax, Angus Krein, they've all been named as well. And Tanner Boyd has been named as well at seven with Tamari Martin on the bench. He's 329K.
00:07:42
Tackles and Tinnies
He has a pretty good draw, actually. West Tigers, Newcastle, Gold Coast, Dolphins. Adam, yes or no, any love for Tanner Boyd.
00:07:51
Adam
I mean, he'll be goal kicking, you would assume. So that's pretty handy.
00:07:54
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah.
00:07:56
Adam
three twenty nine ks in good price. um Look, if you have an extra trade and you want to get rid of King Tongier, like, I don't hate it. i would have much preferred it to be Tamari Martin. Like, if he was the seven, I would have been buying this week for sure.
00:08:10
Adam
ah Here's one I'll look at. I think I'll give him a week, see how he looks. But he's got some potential. Like we've seen Metcalf this year and Tamari Martin last year in that role for New Zealand in that seven role really score well for Supercoach.
00:08:23
Adam
So he's not the worst like downgrade, free up cash, get rid of an AE type of situation.
00:08:31
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah, yeah. Hey, in terms of another, you know very, very popular trade target this week, third on the list, um Ezra Mam. He's 570K. You know, he's been playing pretty unbelievable. He's been averaging 76, which is like elite status, really. And that's insane, considering that um he's never been really, you know, super coach relevant, you know, having averaged like 50 in his last three seasons.
00:08:54
Tackles and Tinnies
um Yeah, would you would you be considering trading him instead of Tanner Boyd? you know if you had somebody like Metcalf or LKT that you were trying to get out?
00:09:00
Adam
Yeah.
00:09:04
Adam
Yeah, MAM's a

Trade Discussions and Player Values

00:09:05
Adam
good option. I mean, the Broncos draw really, really good. So they've got, I think their next three, they have a bye in round 20, but they've got Titans, Souths and Parra. And then they've also got a Cowboys game. um They have two games against the Storm, but the Storm can seed a lot of points to left side players generally.
00:09:21
Adam
So that's pretty handy for him too. I guess the only question is going to be, you know, Walsh is starting to ramp up a little bit and having this week off will probably help him and Ben Hunt will come back into the fold.
00:09:33
Adam
Um, is Mam going to keep getting two to three try assists a week? Probably not. So I wouldn't be buying expecting him to keep up like an 80 average, but he's a good play on matchups. He's good depth. He's affordable price. I don't hate it.
00:09:50
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah, yeah, actually, yeah. I would consider, yeah, Storm nowadays. Yeah, that right edge, that's where they concede most of their tries. And I wouldn't, and, you know, you saw a last week with drinking it and the other week as well.
00:10:01
Tackles and Tinnies
You know, drinking scores, you can score big against the Storm nowadays, really, you know, from any position. You know, I don't i don't have a Bronco on my team and I'm forgetting to regret, you know, a bit, you know. Maybe I should have jumped on, you know, Carapane.
00:10:13
Adam
Oh, we both should have. Oh, man. Every time I look at the Broncos draw, just get sad.
00:10:17
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah.
00:10:18
Adam
I'm like, oh, Carapane, who's he got this week? When he got that junk try against the Dogs, I was so sad. i was like, this is the one game he's meant to score low. but it was a good try. He actually ran really well. But it's just, yeah, it's really like every week it's like, yep, there's another matchup. I don't want to have to watch him.
00:10:34
Adam
So, I mean, I'm hoping that people just don't play him because they have depth or they sell high or something. But, yeah, he's scary.
00:10:41
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah, I think I'm fortunate because of Flex. There's a good chance he's going to be, they're we're going to play him more often than not, really. Yeah. um But because, yeah, because I don't have a ah Broncos player on my team, you know, one player I am considering, you know, and a lot of players, you know, what teams would have sold him would be Payne Haas.
00:11:01
Tackles and Tinnies
You know, he's at 727k. He's dropped about 100 to 150k since, you know, when he was at his peak. And he's got a break even this week of 100. His points have been down during this origin period because he's been averaging like 87 out of them.
00:11:15
Tackles and Tinnies
But in the last five games, he's been averaging 74.
00:11:18
Adam
And.
00:11:18
Tackles and Tinnies
I listened to the NRL physio podcast Magic Sponge last night and apparently he has a back issue. And that's why he's needed the cortisone injections, but they're causing referred pain to his quad.
00:11:30
Tackles and Tinnies
So kind of like sciatica a little bit.
00:11:30
Adam
And. no
00:11:32
Tackles and Tinnies
And Brian thinks that the physio thinks that he's going have managed week week, you know, without good to bad weeks, you know, obviously, like you said earlier, they have the bye in round 20. d Do you pick him up this week or do you just wait until it maybe round 21 to pick him up?
00:11:47
Adam
I mean, logically you wait, right? Like he's playing Origin on Wednesday and then they've got to come back to Queensland to play the Titans. um He's got a back issue. So, you know, shorter turnaround than usual flight.
00:12:01
Adam
You would think that they're probably going to beat the Titans pretty easily. And so he wouldn't be needed for like 60, 65 minutes. um But all of that logic applied after round 15 when he flew back from Perth, backed up, went off early with a quad issue, came back and scored 110 in base.
00:12:19
Adam
So, like, you know, sometimes the logic just goes out the window.
00:12:19
Tackles and Tinnies
ye
00:12:23
Adam
um going to just because B is a bit high. He's got the bye next week. Like, how much can he really hurt us in one week? Yeah.
00:12:32
Tackles and Tinnies
Look, I'm glad you pointed it out because if you were going point it out, Adam, I was going to point it out that, hey, he's got 100 after round 15 from Perth.
00:12:34
Adam
but
00:12:39
Adam
Yeah.
00:12:41
Tackles and Tinnies
Different time zone too. Oh, man.
00:12:42
Adam
um But, I mean, and it's the Titans. You know, he could score a double and score 150 and we're just having to pay up even more for him. But, yeah, I think I'm going to wait. You know, these injuries, like, he could he's been injured before too.
00:12:53
Adam
He's not invincible. So I'm not sure what the up upside is for one week before a bye with a high B with a known niggle.
00:13:00
Tackles and Tinnies
yeah
00:13:01
Adam
Like, I'm waiting until 21. And ah the other thing is
00:13:07
Adam
Sometimes it pays to wait just so that you can trade the right guy out as well. So know a lot of people don't have many. Like, i don't know, I've got like eight trades left. I'm pretty low.
00:13:20
Adam
I'd hate to trade a player to Haas and then the next week one of my other players goes down, you know. Like, I've got Fanua Blake, I've got Terrell May, I've got Tino. Like, if one of these guys gets injured, then they're a better sell.
00:13:34
Adam
And so waiting that two weeks can actually be beneficial like in that way.
00:13:38
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah, no, that makes complete sense because in terms of Payton Haas, there's a bunch of players I'm thinking about selling to him. I just don't know which one just yet. And I think I'd like to just play it out a little bit more. And I'm hoping that Haas, you know, he just doesn't score as high and, and you know, and he drops a little bit more in cash to make sure, and ensure that I can get him, you know.
00:13:59
Tackles and Tinnies
And again, even if he does score 100, means his process doesn't change at all.
00:14:03
Adam
yeah
00:14:03
Tackles and Tinnies
So really, you know, it's, you know, it's, it's kind of a win-win. Yeah. Just to not touch him for the moment. um I'll just quickly name the other three players, you know, together, these next three.
00:14:09
Adam
Yeah.
00:14:13
Tackles and Tinnies
Zach Lomax is a number four most traded in. Marky Mark is number five. Val Holmes, number 10. They're all about 690K. All these guys are potential season keepers. The shame is you just can't pick them all.
00:14:24
Tackles and Tinnies
I think you definitely pick up a center, one of these center guns, you know, if only this week, only if you don't need to deal with Hooker or deal with your halfback Nathan Cleary situation this week.
00:14:25
Adam
yeah
00:14:36
Tackles and Tinnies
If you're looking for a pod, then... I guess one could consider Nick Meany. He's number six most traded in 486K. He's 1.6% owned. Is he a good pot, Adam, are we just literally chasing last week's points?
00:14:49
Adam
Oh, yeah, you've missed the boat on Meany for sure. um There's a couple of guys in the top 11 that bought him last week, which is crazy. um So guy coming fourth and the guy coming 11th both bought him last week, which is like that's just an unreal move. Like that's that's how you win Supercoach, you know.
00:15:05
Adam
Yeah. He's back at centre. He's never been that good at centre for super coach. You'd need him to keep the goals and you'd need him to get a lot of attack. And it just doesn't seem repeatable.
00:15:20
Adam
If he was still at fullback, like if Pappenhausen was out for four weeks, then yeah, like you jump on and just ride him. But I wouldn't be getting Meany anymore.
00:15:29
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah, yeah, exactly right. Like, you know, like, you know, Pappy's been named this week, you know, as we said earlier, but, you know, praying that he doesn't get named and doesn't pass his calf tightness is, you know, is a dangerous and a very, know, low, high risk, low reward, you know, strategy.
00:15:41
Adam
yeah
00:15:45
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah, I agree with that. um Angus Crichton, he's number seven, 6.1% on the Do you like him? um there's actually He's actually quite highly bought this week in the top 1% as well.
00:15:58
Tackles and Tinnies
Like, people have been talking about buying him for a long time. like i don't Like, he's a great player, don't get me wrong. I just don't rate him because, say oh obviously now Sanders is not in, but he just wasn't given the same quality one-on-one ball or service that Luke Keery did last year.
00:16:13
Adam
and
00:16:14
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah. Do you like him?
00:16:15
Adam
Yeah, i think I think a big part of the appeal is Sam Walker coming back. And I think people have the expectation that that left edge will suddenly be more dangerous and get more usage.
00:16:26
Adam
um And you're right, it's been, I mean, top 1% trading him in says a lot. yeah He's very cheap. He's at a price where, like, he's going to get his price in base.
00:16:34
Tackles and Tinnies
Thank you.
00:16:36
Adam
So if he scores a try here or there... you've you've got good value. The question is, can he have that big game? You know, we've seen him over the past few years have these random 150, 140 type games.
00:16:48
Adam
And if you buy him at this price at pretty low ownership and he does just get a hat trick versus the dragons, like that could be massive. So I really like him as a buy. um it also

Managing Trades Amidst Injuries

00:17:01
Adam
depends on who you're playing him over and who you're selling to him. Like there's a lot of factors, but he's interesting.
00:17:07
Adam
Um, He's definitely what I'm looking at.
00:17:11
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah, look, ah ah even though I said didn't I didn't rate him originally, i think that if in 2RF you can have kind of like a pod player, you know, that you know you play you know just on ah on a whim. Like I have Britton Nigra, essentially, for example.
00:17:26
Tackles and Tinnies
Like if you don't have one of these guys, you know, I think it's worthwhile just buying them in and just plugging them in. and i for But I think you have to be careful about having too many of these guys at 2RF, like a Hudson Young, a Nikra, and a Kryden.
00:17:41
Tackles and Tinnies
you know like All three of these guys would go real low, and then you're now in trouble, really.
00:17:44
Adam
Yeah.
00:17:45
Adam
Yeah. i'll Kick chi out as well.
00:17:45
Tackles and Tinnies
but if you only have one of them, then it won't hurt you too much.
00:17:47
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah, exactly right. Kick out as well.
00:17:48
Adam
Yeah.
00:17:49
Tackles and Tinnies
yeah um I've obviously left the number ah number one trading player out, obviously, because it's it's a hooker. It's Connor Watson.
00:18:00
Tackles and Tinnies
And you know, as you know Most people are going to be looking to switch in a gun hooker for the run home with origin done tomorrow night. You know, that means like, you know, Reese Robson and Harry Grant, they're also back.
00:18:12
Tackles and Tinnies
And it's also deja vu for Sandin Smith because we said he was dropped following Sam Walker coming back.
00:18:16
Adam
yeah
00:18:18
Tackles and Tinnies
um Pretty much the top six hookers, they all like are in like an eight-point average ranking. Like Watson's averaging 67. Then it's Blake Braley at 60. Grant's at 59. Starling is at 59. Egan's 58.
00:18:29
Tackles and Tinnies
eight in the fifty eight Andy talked last week about diversifying from the Storm's spine and not getting Grant, you know, or maybe picking up a pod and hoping one of these guys goes big. like i Like, I about two weeks ago bought in Harry Grant, you know, just hoping that he would go big before before round 18, and he didn't really.
00:18:48
Tackles and Tinnies
What are you guys, what are you thinking of doing, Adam?
00:18:52
Adam
ah Well, so I've got Starling and Sandin, um and my plan at the moment is to trade Sandin out. um I've got Kalani going in 2RF, so I can trade Sandin to any position, basically, which makes things a bit easier. So my current plan, if I trade Sandin out, I've only got 18 players this week, and so that means I can just leave Starling and going at hooker and just get a free loop, and it's not going to matter this week.
00:19:18
Adam
um So I think I might just wait and see trade stand into a different position. If I had to buy a hooker this week, I think it probably would be Watson. um The Roosters don't have a buy. He's got pretty good base. He's got attacking upside. Like, he can go big if things go his way. I'm just sort of wondering, like, what I what i want to try and figure out is, like, is it actually worth a trade to go starling up to him?
00:19:43
Adam
Is it going to be... you know how How many points am I gaining over the last nine rounds with that? you know If it's 100 points, yeah is that worth a trade? Maybe.
00:19:54
Adam
If it's less than that, definitely not. um But it could be 200. He could just blow them out of the water. so
00:20:02
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah, well, I mean, based on the fact that at the moment, you know, Watson's averaging eight points over Starling at the moment, you know, if that's eight rounds left to go, then really it's only 64 points, really. And, you know, you don't know what's going to happen, you know.
00:20:15
Tackles and Tinnies
Anytime anybody gets injured in the back line, you know, Connor Watson goes to that position, you know, centre or whatever it is.
00:20:19
Adam
Yeah.
00:20:21
Tackles and Tinnies
Then again, you also, you just don't know, you know, it's like Talis Duncan moved to centre last week, scored yet another two tries yet again.
00:20:25
Adam
exactly Crazy.
00:20:28
Tackles and Tinnies
Like, it's just insane.
00:20:29
Adam
Yeah, crazy.
00:20:29
Tackles and Tinnies
um You know, and and also last year brought Connor Watson for the run home and he just and he didn't even play 80 half the games. It was just so frustrating as well.
00:20:36
Adam
and
00:20:38
Tackles and Tinnies
And given that a lot of the, you know, that now that the Roosters have got a lot of their players back, you Victor Radley's back as well this week. I know they lost Sue Wong, but, you know, he also, you know, you know Zach Docker-Clay is there, you know, is there enough minutes, you know, that Watson can play, you know, 80 minutes and do they need to on the way home, especially if they start winning a lot, really? like
00:20:56
Adam
Yeah, he's got to put a pretty big injury history too.
00:20:57
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah.
00:20:58
Adam
And he's, touch wood, he's been pretty good lately, the last year or two. But before that, he was injured all the time. And it was almost like you can't play in big minutes because he'll just heard his break. So...
00:21:08
Tackles and Tinnies
yeah
00:21:09
Adam
um I think he's a good buy, but yeah, i'm just if you need a hooker this week, he'd probably be... think he's got a good matchup too. Grant's not named, so it doesn't leave many options. I do like Blake Braley as a bit of a pod.
00:21:23
Adam
um Sharks have a really good draw coming up, and he's actually been looking to run a lot more lately. And the good thing with him is he's one of the rare hookers that is locked into 80 minutes. So... His lowest score is going to be like a 50 because he makes a bunch of tackles.
00:21:37
Adam
um But if he's running the ball a bit more, like he's had a couple of big scores lately. ah do like the look of him. um And yeah, I don't mind the idea of going a pod at hooker. I've even had a look at Wade Egan. I've really been like doing deep dive on hooker.
00:21:51
Adam
There's a lot of different guys you could buy, but.
00:21:54
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah. Like Wade Egan is a no for me. He just, he's just because he's not a big body. He, I find he tends to get like towards the end of the year, he's minutes.
00:21:59
Adam
Yeah.
00:22:02
Tackles and Tinnies
ah he's, he ends up getting injured and these

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00:22:04
Tackles and Tinnies
points drop off as well, you know, and that's something that's, you know, been consistent over his career as well.
00:22:05
Adam
Yeah.
00:22:09
Tackles and Tinnies
So yeah, I get what you're saying really. Yeah. um we'll We'll probably move on to the, the halfback conundrum really, you know, because Cleary wasn't named this week, it,
00:22:23
Tackles and Tinnies
it's hard to know if for matters or not and i think we might just have to wait until late Saturday you know to see if it gets named or not. But are you thinking about buying Cleary this week, Adam? That simple.
00:22:34
Adam
no not even a little bit um i it depends on your team so i've got hughes and i've got heinz and hughes has the day game against the knights 3 p.m saturday and you're not even going to know if clear he's playing 100 by that point i don't think so uh maybe we will but i don't know if the cuts 24-hour cuts will be then but yeah i'm just going to give hughes another week you know clearly
00:22:35
Tackles and Tinnies
like got
00:22:56
Adam
He's got a high break even. He probably won't goal kick backing up from origin with this little groin niggle. You know, again, he's got an injury issue. um And Hines has a really good draw coming up longer term. So, yeah, I'm happy to wait a week.
00:23:11
Adam
The B is high. Yeah. And like we've spoken about, you know, Cleary's had this, like, he's been a bit of a TC merchant. You know, he's getting all the plus fours, not the plus 20s. um And yes, he had a big score versus the dogs, but, like, he got a try for charge down, you know. So if it wasn't for that sort of, like, fluky bounce of the ball, he's probably scored, like, 60 that game.
00:23:31
Adam
um I don't think he's 100% essential, at least not this week.
00:23:35
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah.
00:23:35
Adam
Once he gets the goals back, different story. But... We've seen a lot of times this year where he's scored like 50, even with the goals or 60. You know, there was a game against the Dolphins, game against the Tigers. um There was a game against Manly where he was even like heavily captained in some of those weeks and he didn't do really anything.
00:23:53
Adam
So, yeah, I don't really see the point of buying this week unless you think he's going to like get a hat trick or a double or something. um what are What are your thoughts?
00:24:02
Tackles and Tinnies
Well, I was going ask you, but I'll actually, I'll i'll i' i'll say may first. Like, I think it depends. Like, his example, if tomorrow I see that he goal kicks, he's in.
00:24:13
Tackles and Tinnies
He's in. by Like, i'm I'm just at the moment, I'm just of disbelief that there are just so many injuries that keep happening. And all I really want to do is just get to my final 18 players or final 20 players or so.
00:24:26
Tackles and Tinnies
And every week I see like a new shiny object, you know, but like last week it was Mark and then, you know, the week before it was so-and-so. and And I never get the guys I really, really want.
00:24:37
Tackles and Tinnies
And I know that I want Cleary at the end.
00:24:37
Adam
Yeah.
00:24:38
Tackles and Tinnies
You know, he's like averaging like 80, 84, 87 or something like that. And so I'm like, I'm just going to go get him, especially if tomorrow I see that he kicks as well. You know, like the the days what I'm really hoping is really just to capitalise on these next five weeks when he plays.
00:24:55
Tackles and Tinnies
the five worst teams, Paris, South, West, Tigers, Gold Coast, Newcastle, and four of those five, the first four, they're at home. I know it's at Combank Stadium and he's not that great Combank Stadium, but he hasn't been too bad really out there.
00:25:04
Adam
yeah
00:25:08
Adam
Yeah.
00:25:09
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah.
00:25:09
Adam
I mean, what I will probably say is I definitely agree about the injuries, but I think that's why I'd wait because like, I just can't risk bringing him in. He goes down and he could go down any week.
00:25:19
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah.
00:25:22
Adam
So you can't just never bring him in because of that, but it's got to be a higher risk after origin. um And, you know, Hughes has a good matchup. Clearly he's got a high b Like, I just don't know what the upside this week is.
00:25:35
Adam
um Because even if he goal kicks in origin, like there's a chance he would just then not kick for Penrith, especially if, you know, they've got Edwards there who can kick. So, yeah, I don't know.
00:25:46
Tackles and Tinnies
yeah
00:25:46
Adam
i Personally, I don't see the upside to it. And also, like we've spoken about too, like what if Hines gets injured or what if Hughes gets injured? Then we're like, okay, well, that's the guy we're selling.
00:25:55
Tackles and Tinnies
yep
00:25:55
Adam
You know, it so it's really like if any of the three get injured, it's better to wait a week. um So, yeah, I'm going to wait for sure.
00:26:03
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah, um I'll talk about laden trades, but yeah, I'm going to buy him this week, honestly. But because, like you said, we talked about Haas, I'm likely going selling one of these three guys

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00:26:13
Tackles and Tinnies
to Haas at some point.
00:26:15
Tackles and Tinnies
So my my aim this week is I'm going to buy Cleary.
00:26:15
Adam
Yeah.
00:26:18
Tackles and Tinnies
I'm going to put him in my flex, actually.
00:26:20
Adam
Right. OK.
00:26:21
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah, because because I sold Pappy last week.
00:26:21
Adam
Yep. Yeah.
00:26:25
Tackles and Tinnies
And then I'm going to have Hughes, Cleary, and Nico. And then I'm just going to see for like a week or two and then see what happens really. Like I know at some point I'm getting Cleary anyways.
00:26:32
Adam
Yeah.
00:26:34
Tackles and Tinnies
I might as well get him in now. I know unless, I guess, ah guess unless he just literally gets injured, you know, touch wood obviously, Origen or whatever, right after Origen or something like that.
00:26:43
Adam
Yeah.
00:26:44
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah.
00:26:45
Adam
yeah
00:26:45
Tackles and Tinnies
But I honestly think that, look, if I see him kicking tomorrow, like I don't see why he just wouldn't randomly kick. It's just he's kicking the ball. Like how hard can it be? You know? Yeah.
00:26:54
Adam
Yeah, it's right.
00:26:54
Tackles and Tinnies
But if like I see tomorrow, like, you know, like Latrell's kicking, you know, like doing most of the kicking in general, play kicking, then yeah, he's a no-go zone for me.
00:26:54
Adam
Sure.
00:27:02
Adam
Big red flag, yeah.
00:27:03
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah.
00:27:03
Adam
yeah yeah
00:27:04
Tackles and Tinnies
I guess the last question I'll ask about in this in this scenario was if you had to pick two and you've got to drop one of them, I know what Ryan's saying.
00:27:15
Tackles and Tinnies
He's saying, please don't pick Nico, Timu Cleary. But... would you drop Would you drop Nico and go to Hughes and Cleary for the end? you know?
00:27:26
Adam
Oh, no, no chance. i'm i'm Maybe I'm delusional, but I'm i'm all aboard the Heinz train. um I think it'll come good. They've got such a soft draw. Like, it can't be overstated, the easy run of games they have. And there are a lot of day games, too, which are more conducive to supercoach scoring. so And Hughes' draw is tough, man. Like, the last five, it's I think it's Broncos twice, Bulldogs, Roosters, and Penrith.
00:27:51
Tackles and Tinnies
Yep.
00:27:51
Adam
50 views as the last five.
00:27:52
Tackles and Tinnies
Yes.
00:27:53
Adam
So, and he's been so like really up and down, like he'll have some one twenty s and he'll have some forty s
00:27:53
Tackles and Tinnies
Yes, it is. Mm. Mm.
00:27:59
Adam
And these have been against pretty easy opposition too. You know, he had like 40 versus Souths in a game that went to Golden Point. um He only had like 50 on the weekend versus the Cowboys, which was wild. You know, you would have thought that was an easy hundred.
00:28:13
Adam
So again, like he won't be terrible, but I could easily see like a 55, 60 average in that last like six weeks, five weeks. So I am pretty keen to get off Hughes eventually.
00:28:27
Adam
It's just a question of how soon for me, I guess. So yeah, I'd definitely be keeping Nico.
00:28:31
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah, yeah, look, I totally agree you, you know, and I i said this to Ryan a while ago, you know, on the pod and Jake as well. But, yeah, that run home is just insane. They play Dolphins and, you know, and the Roosters in next two weeks.
00:28:43
Tackles and Tinnies
But after that, it's Souths, Cowboys, Dragons, ah Gold Coast, Newcastle, and then they finish with the Bulldogs. Like, they're flat-track bullies.
00:28:53
Tackles and Tinnies
Like, I think at the end of the day what I'm thinking to myself is, can i cap can any of these three guys be captaincy potential?
00:28:54
Adam
Yeah.
00:29:00
Tackles and Tinnies
captaincies and hughes like it's like what you said like against you know he has low ones against teams that you think that he should go begin and so you can never just you can never really be see or see him really with nico yeah if nico gets on a roll like you just go yep 100 i'm putting money i'm i'm putting the vc on you or the set oh i don't think i would ever do the same with nico this year but i probably see the very least you know because in fact like they yeah they're flat track release like i'm literally thinking about
00:29:07
Adam
Yeah.
00:29:10
Adam
No, no way.
00:29:16
Adam
Yeah.
00:29:18
Adam
Oh, man.
00:29:21
Adam
ah man
00:29:26
Tackles and Tinnies
Spending like one of my last trades on like running with the solo once again, like I get sucked in once again, but you
00:29:31
Adam
ah Yeah. No, I think I'm hoping that people jump off Hines. Like, I think he's like at maybe 80% owned up the top, and I'm hoping that drops and drops.
00:29:37
Tackles and Tinnies
know.
00:29:40
Adam
Like, people flick him to Cleary instead, especially if Hughes goes big this week and Nico goes low against the Roosters, which you'd probably expect. I think that will probably start to happen, hopefully.
00:29:49
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah.
00:29:51
Adam
yeah. Yeah.
00:29:52
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah, that and them not looking at the the fixtures for the run home, because they might keep him if they look at that fixture.
00:29:58
Adam
Yeah, I'm probably underestimating. People at the top are probably not going to do that, but we'll see.
00:30:02
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah. um Yeah, anyways, one of our listener questions, one of our listeners, Hotfire69, he asks, is Ryan Pappenhausen a sell? He's been averaging 82, but he's had a five-game average of 56. Like, he's been playing pretty trash. Like, it's not not trashing per on purpose, but He just doesn't seem to be as involved in the attack, you know, and and that calf tightness and, you know, with the concern about him losing the goal kicking yeah to Nick Meaney at any point.
00:30:24
Adam
Yeah.
00:30:31
Tackles and Tinnies
ah I sold, I know you sold Adam as well last week. Would you sell him?
00:30:38
Adam
Not now. Not that he's named for a 3pm game against the Knights.
00:30:39
Tackles and Tinnies
Yep.
00:30:42
Adam
um The reason we sold was that we got an extra number last week, which locked us into really good scores. you know like I brought in Kickout, who got like 70, and that helped me, it gained me like an extra 45, 50 points and helped me you know shoot up the rankings a bit. and you know Obviously, you got in Marky Mark and he went 110 and that's just like saved your round. you know Without that, you would have been not getting the big green. So we've already got a big advantage out of the sell.
00:31:12
Adam
And also, we just gambled on him maybe not being named this week, which didn't come off. But you've got to take those gambles. um Now that you've sat him there for a week and he's got a good matchup in a day game,
00:31:23
Adam
I think you've got to at least give them this week. ah They've also got a game against Manly soon and a game against Parra soon. So it's not like the draw is bad. um Now, there is a chance he won't goal kick. I know physio said that it shouldn't affect the goal kicking too much with a calf, but...
00:31:42
Adam
and You know, it's not like he needs the extra strain and meaning he's like, you know, he's a good enough goal kicker, not as good as Pappenhausen, but there's a chance they say, look, you know, come back, don't bother goal kicking, know, don't do the kickoffs, just chill and and get the goals back in a week or two.
00:31:48
Tackles and Tinnies
yeah
00:31:58
Adam
In which case, he needs a lot of attack to score well if he's not goal-kicking. So I'd be holding, for sure. I think he had to jump off last week, and it's very scary now that he's named.
00:32:11
Adam
it' We're going to have to i have to watch him face a Knights team without Ponga and without Fletcher Sharp.
00:32:12
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah.
00:32:18
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah, true, true. And um this is a question not related this week, but probably next week. um Is Tommy Turbo back, Adam?
00:32:29
Adam
Oh, God. Don't get me started. was so frustrating watching him take all Lehi Hopaladis, left side sweeps, and getting all these tri assists. And my boy Lehi was just standing there fucking watching.
00:32:40
Adam
um Look, he looked better. The role is pretty good. Like, if he's going to defend at center and then just, like, sweep to the left and play fullback, like, it's not a bad role. But the draw is really bad for Manly. Like, their next five, I think they've got a bye, and then it's like...
00:32:58
Adam
Raiders, Dogs, Storm, and Roosters or something.
00:33:02
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah, that's exactly right.
00:33:03
Adam
Yeah.
00:33:03
Tackles and Tinnies
That's the next four.
00:33:04
Adam
So, yeah. So, like, at center, I don't think and he'd get injured any time. Like, literally any time he could go down. So, I don't see the point in buying.
00:33:14
Adam
If you've got him, like, maybe hold. I would worry that you'd still be losing points to better fullbacks. um But, yeah, I definitely wouldn't be buying. That's for sure.
00:33:25
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah, I'd be telling the listeners that, you know, you should temper expectations. You know, it was 123 against a depleted bunnieside, you know, playing against Talis Duncan, who normally doesn't play at centre as well.
00:33:31
Adam
Yeah.
00:33:35
Adam
Yeah.
00:33:35
Tackles and Tinnies
But, you know, I've said this a million times on the podcast. I think he's the one player you break all logic for in this game because he's the best player of all time.
00:33:45
Adam
Oh, he's hard to get right.
00:33:45
Tackles and Tinnies
um Yeah, yeah, exactly right. Trades this week for me. I'm trading Joey Tarpenny out to Nathan Cleary as I talked about.
00:33:56
Tackles and Tinnies
Joey taps, he's just been bumped up, you know, finger dislocation and then he got tapped on the the ankle and then Ricky just tried to give him the whole second half off and then until he had to come on the last few minutes because Dragons were gonna win the game, you know, otherwise.
00:34:11
Adam
and Almost stole it, yeah.
00:34:13
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah. yeah And there's too many buys for him. And there's a very good chance. Usually he runs him into the ground, but this year there's a good chance that Taff and he, you know, I just, I just hate, it just makes me so angry.
00:34:24
Tackles and Tinnies
have to go on the discord every week and go bring Joey taps back on.
00:34:27
Adam
Mm-hmm.
00:34:27
Tackles and Tinnies
When's he coming back on? And I'm sick of doing it.
00:34:28
Adam
yeah
00:34:29
Tackles and Tinnies
So I'm just going to sell him whilst he still has some type of trade value. I'm also probably going to trade up Sandon Smith as well um to blaze to lungy. He's going to be my, my pod this week.
00:34:41
Tackles and Tinnies
um
00:34:41
Adam
yeah. Where'd you get that idea?
00:34:42
Tackles and Tinnies
um Just, I'm just going to,
00:34:43
Adam
Oh, yeah. We'll see. Hopefully it works out.
00:34:45
Tackles and Tinnies
I got that from you, Adam. Basically, look, if you're in the top 18, I'm just going to copy whatever you do, really, to be honest.
00:34:48
Adam
Could
00:34:52
Adam
have had K a week, say. Oh, man. hopefully it works out
00:34:56
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah, 100%.
00:34:56
Adam
could have ah of had ka your weeks say oh man
00:34:59
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah. What about you? Are you trading at all this week?
00:35:03
Adam
ah Yeah, so I'm doing kind of similar to you actually but slightly different. i'm At the moment, my current plan is Sand and Smith out and I'm bringing in Dylan Edwards via Jules.
00:35:14
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah.
00:35:15
Adam
um Same logic, man. Like the run for Penrith is awesome. And i'm if Cleary's not goal-kicking in origin, I'm pretty sure he won't goal-kick for Penrith either. And if ah if I can get Edwards as a pod against the Eels goal-kicking, I'm pretty keen on that.
00:35:30
Adam
Yeah. And also, I think the role is quite good. That's why I got Blaze too. you know I'm kind of hoping that Cleary's in the middle of the field, just creating all these overlaps, and then it's those guys getting the easy points on the end of it.
00:35:44
Adam
I know a lot of people have talked about Edwards. like If Papenhausen was out, I think Edwards would have been very, very popular. um So yeah, that's my plan at the moment. I've just got to figure out a contingency. like What are you going to do if Cleary doesn't play?
00:35:57
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah, look, if he if he doesn't play, then I'm just going to hold the trade, honestly. Or often think or I I'm just going to hold the trade and I'm just going to literally move only Sandin on to Blaze. ah
00:36:07
Adam
Yeah.
00:36:07
Tackles and Tinnies
Tarpen, he doesn't play this week. He's on the bye. So oh he won't lose money. And then I'll kind of go from there, really.
00:36:11
Adam
Yeah.
00:36:12
Tackles and Tinnies
i um Yeah, and like you...
00:36:12
Adam
Yeah.
00:36:14
Tackles and Tinnies
I'm just hoping, you know, Cleary keeps this, in a way, I'm hoping Cleary keeps his position as, you know, the TC merchant and then Blaze just gets the top try assist instead.
00:36:23
Adam
yeah
00:36:24
Tackles and Tinnies
And then we and then we invite all get a, we all just get a pair of stack, really, to be honest.
00:36:28
Adam
yeah
00:36:28
Tackles and Tinnies
And it all just, we're all just jumping on this fixture for the next five weeks, really, is what I think.
00:36:33
Adam
Oh, it's juicy.
00:36:33
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
00:36:34
Adam
i am Just by the way, I'm glad ah Craig Bellamy got my gift basket and dropped Kane Bradley. So don't have that A issue this week, which is nice. because So I've only got, when I trade Sandin, I've only got 18 players.
00:36:48
Adam
So I can do a free loop, but it means that if Dylan Edwards doesn't play, actually need to buy someone else.
00:36:50
Tackles and Tinnies
yeah yeah no
00:36:54
Adam
um So I've got to figure that side of things out. you know If Edwards doesn't play and Cleary does, then I guess I just get Cleary, right? Yeah. If Edwards and Cleary don't play, like maybe I just get Lomax in that spot instead, you know, because then he's playing a depleted Penrith.
00:37:05
Tackles and Tinnies
yeah
00:37:08
Adam
Or maybe that's when I just switch to Haas, you know, and just get him in early, save a trade.
00:37:10
Tackles and Tinnies
yeah
00:37:13
Adam
um Luckily, the the fixtures actually work out pretty well. Like the fact that I'd still have Lomax and Haas' options in flex is quite lucky um because sometimes, you know, there would be no other options to go to and you'd be kind of trapped.
00:37:21
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah.
00:37:26
Adam
Yeah.
00:37:26
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah. Yeah. Look, I felt i feel Kane Bradley's been hard done by it because he's actually one of the ones who knows how to play the fucking ball, you know? alice Listen, as I'm referring to a Craig Bailey being caught saying, teach him how to play the fucking ball on the Fox um the fox camera.
00:37:42
Adam
ah We need a yeah we need a we need a press red button for c Craig on Foxtel, like they used to do back in the day.
00:37:49
Tackles and Tinnies
I don't I'd watch any of the Storm game. I'd just be watching him, most of it as most people would say normally.
00:37:52
Adam
Do you remember when they had um but had the Hain cam when Jared Hain was on? I think it was when he was on. Was it when he came back to the Titans or was it when he was in the NFL maybe? I can't remember. But they had like a Hain cam that just followed him the whole game.
00:38:06
Adam
We need that for Bellamy.
00:38:06
Tackles and Tinnies
Yep.
00:38:07
Adam
And just as soon as Storm make an error, you can just switch to switch to the coaches box.
00:38:11
Tackles and Tinnies
I'll...
00:38:11
Adam
Yeah.
00:38:12
Tackles and Tinnies
I want to know what drink he's getting when he you know disappears behind the screen. You know, when he disappears and walks away. i would like Maybe he's just getting a drink.
00:38:20
Adam
Yeah.
00:38:20
Tackles and Tinnies
That's what I really want to know.
00:38:21
Adam
Oh, man. Yeah, Boyd Drinky came through too. That was a um that was a good good VC loop.
00:38:28
Tackles and Tinnies
Oh, yeah, no, that was awesome. Ike, you know, because I was thinking about, you know, VCing Hughes last week and, you know, you talked me into doing drinking and, you know, it doesn't take me very much at all to to VC or see drinking.
00:38:34
Adam
Yeah.
00:38:38
Adam
Yeah. Yeah.
00:38:40
Tackles and Tinnies
It was just, oh, man, I was just so lucky, Bob, because I just got greedy. I was like, oh, I think Teddy can still go big. And, you know, when he was on, what was he on like, with, you know, with 30 seconds to go, he was on...
00:38:51
Adam
He was on 45. Man, the Siren is about to go. Like, he's on 45. Siren's about to go. Scores the junkiest try of your life. I was so mad. He's like 60% captain. Like, oh.
00:39:04
Adam
Frustrating.
00:39:04
Tackles and Tinnies
I was pretty relieved.
00:39:05
Adam
Yeah.
00:39:07
Tackles and Tinnies
That's my lesson the week, really.
00:39:08
Adam
Yeah.
00:39:11
Tackles and Tinnies
Look, if my VC score was 100+, just loot them. You just never know what will happen.
00:39:17
Adam
yeah
00:39:17
Tackles and Tinnies
Even though Teddy was going to be apparently surefire to score 177 and not just 77. yeah
00:39:24
Adam
ah
00:39:25
Tackles and Tinnies
um Let's finally just talk quickly about captains this week and then we'll wrap it up, Adam. ah Who are you thinking about VCing? are you thinking about seeing?
00:39:34
Adam
Yeah, so my VC is Teddy at the moment and my C is Edwards.
00:39:36
Tackles and Tinnies
Thank you.
00:39:38
Adam
Yeah. Just because I've got that free loop, it makes a bit easier to take a look at Teddy. um you know i think it's a pretty good chance he's going to bounce back. The Roosters are going to bounce back. you know They've got their troops back. The Dragons aren't very good. I'm pretty sure Ted Nesco is going like 120 plus or 100 plus.
00:39:55
Adam
So i'll in all likelihood, I'll just loop. But if Teddy doesn't do much, then yeah, I think I'll go with Edwards or Cleary if that's who it ends up being. if neither of those two, I really don't know.
00:40:07
Adam
Hey, um I mean, maybe like Terrell May, just as a fullback, um he's got a, you know, decent matchup.
00:40:12
Tackles and Tinnies
ye
00:40:15
Adam
So, you know, he could be a good one. I mean, what are you looking at?
00:40:19
Tackles and Tinnies
Well, look, honestly, I'm doing very similar to you. I'm going to be VCing Teddy. you know Like you said, he just go he's just the Darkins are his bunny team. you know He just always goes big against them.
00:40:28
Adam
Yeah.
00:40:30
Tackles and Tinnies
you know That was the week I sold him i sold him out for drinky in, was it round eight or something like that?
00:40:35
Adam
Yeah, yeah.
00:40:35
Tackles and Tinnies
And he went 149. He scored something like 50 points in the final minute.
00:40:37
Adam
like
00:40:38
Tackles and Tinnies
Man, going to be good Ah, just trust Teddy to always get junk, you know?
00:40:41
Adam
He's the junk king this year, isn't he? Yeah, seriously.
00:40:43
Tackles and Tinnies
yeah
00:40:44
Adam
He's he's actually the junk king this year.
00:40:47
Tackles and Tinnies
Nah, nah, that belongs to my nemesis, Herbie Farnworth.
00:40:52
Adam
Yeah, Kirby and Tedesco, both of them, man. Because Teddy had um yeah that late try assist against the Knights, that Wong dodgy put down um in the last buy round.
00:41:02
Adam
And then he had the try against the Tigers. He had that Raiders game, I captained him, and he got a try like right on halftime.
00:41:08
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah, yeah, yeah, he did, yeah.
00:41:09
Adam
Like five seconds left. He's had so many. like Even the Sharks in the first buy round, he only scored 68, but he scored a try with like four minutes left to get to 68. Yeah. Yeah, he's really turned into a bit of a junk junk king lately.
00:41:23
Tackles and Tinnies
But, yeah, I'm going to I think another really good VC option, if I had him, what would be Herbie as well, yeah, because, you know, he's I think he's going to score you minimum of 80, you know, every week.
00:41:30
Adam
Yeah.
00:41:34
Tackles and Tinnies
It's just insane.
00:41:34
Adam
He's unreal.
00:41:35
Adam
Yeah. You're not going to buy him?
00:41:35
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah, yeah.
00:41:37
Tackles and Tinnies
Nah, nah. it's I've just got to antipod him and it just gives me something to complain about on this podcast. you know I honestly didn't think I'd be talking about Herbie, but I've managedd managed to bring it up again this week.
00:41:49
Adam
Actually, um i just remembered, if I don't, the other captaincy option I think is Karaz against the Cowboys this week because he's got the bye. like he As in, he didn't play last week because of Origin, you know, being 18th man.
00:42:02
Adam
um i think he would be a good fallback as well because the Cowboys just pretty putrid and he gets his offloads and, you know, his runs and he should get at least like 60 in base.
00:42:13
Adam
So he's not going to kill him.
00:42:14
Tackles and Tinnies
I think the hardest thing will be for him will be, especially with Montoya going down. um I think he just had surgery on his neck, I think, and he's out for six weeks.
00:42:21
Adam
Yes.
00:42:23
Tackles and Tinnies
ah Which side he ends up on? um Honestly, I think he's actually better off on the right side.
00:42:27
Adam
Yeah.
00:42:27
Tackles and Tinnies
But, you know, when he was on the left side, i think last game, yeah, it just what didn't turn out great at all.
00:42:33
Adam
I think he might have just switched to try and go up against To'o, honestly. He's just like, watch this Laurie Daly, I'm going destroy To'o, and then he did not destroy To'o.
00:42:36
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah. Yep.
00:42:42
Adam
But, yeah, think um I reckon he'll be back on the right.
00:42:43
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah. Yeah.
00:42:45
Adam
He's been so good on the right, I don't see, like, it feels a bit silly to, like, switch him now.
00:42:49
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah. And then like my say will be, will hopefully be Cleary or on, and if not, I'll just wait for Teddy to go massive.
00:42:53
Adam
Yeah.
00:42:55
Tackles and Tinnies
And then we don't have to worry about it. Like you said, we can all just loop him. Yeah. Pretty much.
00:42:59
Adam
Yeah. Yeah.
00:43:00
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah. Awesome.
00:43:01
Adam
Yeah, nice.
00:43:02
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah. Yeah. Well, Adam, thank you for coming on and flexing and we hope you, yeah, top 18.
00:43:08
Adam
Flexing my top 18. Got to get it in while I can. I don't have any trays left, so it might not be going up much longer.
00:43:15
Tackles and Tinnies
i Look, i don't think anybody like again i don't think anybody has trades left, honestly, when you're at that level, really. you know You've only got to go up 17 ranks, really, and then you can you can take home 50K cash-free.
00:43:24
Adam
Yeah, that's true.
00:43:26
Tackles and Tinnies
Cash-free, you know?
00:43:26
Adam
right Tax rate.
00:43:27
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah, yeah, yeah, tax-free, yeah.
00:43:28
Adam
Is it tax rate? I hope so. hope so. Oh, man.
00:43:33
Tackles and Tinnies
Anyways, listeners, yeah, like I said, i hope you guys have a good week this week in Supercoaching. And um don't forget to like and subscribe. And I think i think Ryan is back next week.
00:43:46
Tackles and Tinnies
Peace.