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Tackles and Tinnies Presents: The Fantasy Files - R24 - E16: Hamstring Havoc, Finals Fever & Turbo Temptations 🏉🔥
32 Plays4 months ago
Ryan & Chris are back to break down all things NRL SuperCoach as we roll into Round 24 — and nothing is off-limits.
💥 This Week’s Talking Points:
- 📋 Team List Tuesday Chaos – Broncos hammy troubles, Titans fluttering, and more selection shake-ups.
- 🏆 H2H Finals Heartbreak – Ryan was winning pre-updates… but post-updates? The drop from Top 1% ➡ Top 2% has him fuming (and you can imagine the complaining).
- 🎯 Captaincy Calls – Ryan’s on a mission to drag Chris onto the Turbo bandwagon. Will he succeed?
- 😬 Teddy Regrets – The boys AGAIN didn’t slap the VC or C on James Tedesco… and he went for 189. Pain.
From clutch trade chat to banter-fuelled blow-ups, this one’s packed with finals energy and plenty of laughs.
🎧 Listen now: https://linktr.ee/tacklesandtinnies
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Transcript
Introduction and Streaming from Work
00:00:01
Tackles and Tinnies
fresh crack of the tin and Chris, the tradition is now broken because you have gone rogue. Where are you, Chris?
00:00:08
Chris
i'm I'm at work. I'm streaming from work today, man. Yeah.
00:00:11
Tackles and Tinnies
That's dedication.
00:00:13
Chris
yeah
00:00:14
Tackles and Tinnies
That is dedication. Now,
Footy Insights and Supercoach Impact
00:00:16
Tackles and Tinnies
Chris, you didn't say anything about slander today because in the green room, you said my hat came in late, but guess what, mate?
00:00:26
Tackles and Tinnies
You got a New South Wales hat on. You just don't understand footy. But I think your super coach scores this week might beg to differ. Can you fill us in what happened?
00:00:36
Chris
Yeah. This week it was, ah ah it was really a case of people who had, who captained James Tedesco and people who didn't. And I was one of the people who didn't sadly, but I actually did pretty well still. It was a good week for Kid Luai.
00:00:51
Chris
We scored, I scored a 1381. I saw green arrows. I'm now 824, went up 113 spots and I basically looked Cleary.
00:01:01
Chris
It was a, it was another what if week really, to be honest, you know, I planned to play Martin Amonganito Waze, but I messed up my sit and start, so I couldn't play him and I had the cop and thirty eight from nira own a from and a 43 from Drinkie, you know. so
Player Suspensions and Trade Strategies
00:01:15
Chris
But, you know, Green Arrows, I can't complain too much, Ryan.
00:01:18
Tackles and Tinnies
Hmm.
00:01:18
Chris
Yeah.
00:01:19
Tackles and Tinnies
What's your rank now? Sorry.
00:01:19
Chris
there's There's trouble brewing.
00:01:20
Chris
What was that? Sorry?
00:01:21
Tackles and Tinnies
What's your rank now?
00:01:23
Chris
I'm now. Yeah. yeah
00:01:24
Tackles and Tinnies
Oh, mate. Killing it. Killing it.
00:01:28
Chris
Oh, look, there's trouble brewing in paradise, you know. ah know, Nick are suspended now for the season and, you know, Raiders on the bye.
00:01:32
Tackles and Tinnies
Hmm.
00:01:34
Chris
I've only got 17 this week. And I'd say Asako has become a nightmare as well, Ryan. And then, you know, now that he's lost the goal kicking, I'm thinking about maybe ma moving, you know, but love it i beloved drinky dearest onto somebody better, actually, you know.
00:01:40
Tackles and Tinnies
Yep.
00:01:51
Chris
Yeah. Which we'll talk about this week.
00:01:52
Tackles and Tinnies
I'm very, very looking forward to who you're thinking because obviously that lovely flex position can get anyone in.
00:01:54
Chris
Yeah.
00:01:59
Tackles and Tinnies
So maybe fullback, maybe not. more night This week, it was it wasn't good. It wasn't good. I scored thirteen twenty three I was like, heck yeah.
00:02:09
Tackles and Tinnies
Head-to-head matchups in the top four. Beat our beloved Adam, who's like number nine in Australia. I was like, I'm the GOAT, whatever. My other cash league, thought I beat him as well. All good. And then bang, updates happen.
00:02:22
Tackles and Tinnies
And I lost both. both head-to-heads by like 20 points. I was like, nothing could be worse. And then i just checked as we are have a look at the top scores here.
00:02:33
Tackles and Tinnies
I'm in the top 2%. So not only lose my head-to-heads and my drafts in all my top fours, but I also in the now in the 2%. What's happening, Chris? I'm
Future Matchups and Strategies
00:02:43
Tackles and Tinnies
um and in shambles. I can't even talk. I'm in shambles.
00:02:46
Chris
We should let the tackles and tinny listeners know that, yes, in the and the two major finals, it was Adam vs.
00:02:56
Chris
Ryan and Adam's one, so you go straight to like is it the the prelim finals and ahve eight our other co-host, Andy.
00:03:02
Tackles and Tinnies
bullshit
00:03:04
Chris
So ah ah Andy, but Andy gets a second shot and so do you. next week, Ryan. But at some point, I think if you win next week, you and I actually come up head to head.
00:03:12
Tackles and Tinnies
yeah well man it's not gonna matter we have no trades left so just be captaincy options
00:03:12
Chris
So there will probably be no podcast. I'll just be telling you everything opposite of what I'd like you to do.
00:03:21
Chris
you Yeah, true. It's all theoretical talk yeah in two weeks though.
00:03:26
Tackles and Tinnies
Literally though, literally. And
Reece Walsh's Performance Analysis
00:03:28
Tackles and Tinnies
as you mentioned, mate, I want to go straight into, I mentioned last week, the ah CEO of rocks and diamonds, my boy, Reese Walsh. I can't go too hard him because the Broncos just got absolutely decimated by, uh, a barrage of sniper rifles on the one set play with Ezra man and, uh, Adam Reynolds.
00:03:48
Tackles and Tinnies
Never seen that in my life, let alone for two halves for a, a top four team relatively early on in the piece as well. Might I add, Yeah, Reece Walsh, rocks and diamonds, baby, 145, whatever it was the week before.
00:04:01
Tackles and Tinnies
And then, what, 26.
00:04:04
Chris
26, I think, yeah, yeah.
00:04:05
Tackles and Tinnies
Trash. Absolute trash. So, yeah, I actually blame Reece Walsh for my loss this week. But, but, if the Broncos didn't get the double hammy or triple hammy technically of Cobbo,
00:04:19
Tackles and Tinnies
I think I would have made the win for both my head-to-heads. So, Rhys Walsh, you're on thin ice. I can't trade you because I've got no one left, but it will be an interesting captaincy corner because there's not many desirable picks. And I'll tell you what, looking forward to your opinion on a cheeky VC on a Rhysie Walsh.
00:04:41
Chris
Look, i I think, I think You know, even though i didn't do well last week, I still think he's the play. You know, he's got some good match-ups coming up. Yes, he still has to play Melbourne yet again in a couple of weeks' time. But, look, against who they're playing this week?
00:04:59
Tackles and Tinnies
No, I've got to here for you.
Broncos' Team Changes and Strategies
00:05:00
Tackles and Tinnies
Broncos are playing the Dolphins at Suncorp, Saturday, 5.30.
00:05:03
Chris
Yeah, that's what it was. i I heavily condone a VC, if not a C, on him this week. Yeah, they're going to rely on a lot more.
00:05:13
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah, it's just absolute rocks and diamonds.
00:05:14
Chris
yeah
00:05:16
Tackles and Tinnies
And again, we've got our top tier, Recy Walsh, blundered it. My number two being Khan Pereira, Torres Hamstring as well. And off the top of my head, I can't even think what number three was.
00:05:29
Tackles and Tinnies
But I'm pretty sure they did trash as well. So, yeah, mate, it's been shambles. And I've just been thinking today, I was ah praying, i was praying in Teamless Tuesday, my big boy Tino Fassul Malawi getting named because I ought be a player short and I'd be forced to make my final trade.
00:05:48
Tackles and Tinnies
But the football gods have listened and Tino has been named. Whether or not he plays 20 minutes, I will take it. So what are your thoughts on our Big Tino?
00:06:00
Chris
Oh, look, I'm so happy for him to be back because I was, you know, I'm playing 17 as well and now now I've got 18. You know, i as I said earlier, Jermaine Asako has been an AE nightmare for me.
00:06:13
Chris
Like last week he scored, what, 23 or something like that.
00:06:14
Tackles and Tinnies
Yep.
00:06:16
Tackles and Tinnies
Yep.
00:06:16
Chris
You know, I think he's going to play big. You know, I saw him last week. You know, I watched him what's some video from, like, the Gold Coast Titans. You know, the the boys were, like, having a laugh at a JC, you know goal kicking, and they were different and distracted at practice.
00:06:29
Chris
And, you know, Tina looked pretty good and fit and healthy, actually.
00:06:30
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah.
00:06:32
Chris
So I reckon
00:06:32
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah.
Player Comparisons and Statistics
00:06:32
Chris
he's raring to go.
00:06:34
Chris
You've also, you know, Keanu Kinney, he's on the extended bench. So AJ Brimson's still at fullback. So, you know, you've been kissed on the absolute dick once again and, you know, sorry So hopefully AJ goes big for you.
00:06:47
Chris
Yeah, I'm ecstatic. Yeah, it means that I don't have to trade at Nikra as well now and I get to save yet another trade and we'll talk about that in a moment.
00:06:53
Tackles and Tinnies
yeah yeah
00:06:56
Chris
But I'm going to go on a side tangent actually here really, really briefly.
00:06:59
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah, please.
00:07:01
Chris
Because so look, I'm i'm intrigued by your constant claim that Rhys Walsh is the CEO of rocks and diamonds and you know and I call him crypto Rhys as well so you know I actually did some research onto it and it turns out he's not even close to being the CEO he's literally the coffee boy at the company you know so yeah so these stats basically they they are they're they're thanks to the NRL super coach stats website and they have a stat called coefficient of variance right and that is basically a measure of
00:07:13
Tackles and Tinnies
Okay, please, enlighten me.
00:07:20
Tackles and Tinnies
Yep.
00:07:28
Tackles and Tinnies
yeah
00:07:31
Tackles and Tinnies
Ooh. hey
00:07:34
Chris
how dispersed your players' scores are throughout the season. So basically, the higher your number, I guess the more inconsistent the player is at scoring. So i in my opinion, I actually think it's actually the ultimate measure of rocks and diamonds.
00:07:47
Chris
Drinkie, he's got a coefficient of 42. And Walsh is at 44. Turbo for this season, he's 44. Somebody who you think about as being rocks and diamonds, running as high, he's only 47.
00:08:02
Tackles and Tinnies
yeah
00:08:02
Chris
Have a guess at who's actually but the people who are higher than
00:08:07
Tackles and Tinnies
I couldn't tell you. Give me some names.
00:08:10
Chris
Okay. Ethan Strange, where do you think he's at?
00:08:13
Tackles and Tinnies
Oh, he'd be top five, surely.
00:08:13
Chris
So Drinky and Walsh are about 44.
00:08:16
Tackles and Tinnies
I reckon, well, he'd be like number five on the list, surely. What's he rating?
00:08:21
Chris
So based on what I kind of I did a look at pretty much every single player that was relevant. He comes at about six on the list.
00:08:29
Tackles and Tinnies
Oh, it's close.
00:08:30
Chris
A player that you said earlier, Lachie Khan Pereira, he's pretty rocks and diamonds too.
00:08:33
Tackles and Tinnies
Yep. Hmm.
00:08:35
Chris
His coefficient is 58. Yeah.
00:08:38
Tackles and Tinnies
Wow.
00:08:39
Chris
yeah KO Weeks, 64.
00:08:41
Tackles and Tinnies
Hmm.
00:08:42
Chris
DWZ, 73. He's number two. But the guy who's the most is actually
00:08:45
Tackles and Tinnies
it makes sense.
Team Performance and Player Positions
00:08:48
Chris
Jack Bostock.
00:08:48
Chris
He's 77.
00:08:50
Tackles and Tinnies
that makes sense
00:08:50
Chris
He's actually the, yeah, he is the true CEO of rocks and diamonds. Yeah. Yeah.
00:08:56
Tackles and Tinnies
Interesting. Yeah. or I guess like either Herbie's dummying or he's passing him the ball.
00:08:58
Chris
Yeah.
00:09:01
Tackles and Tinnies
So it's like either he's going to pop off and get that 170 or he's going to get 20 points.
00:09:02
Chris
Yeah.
00:09:05
Tackles and Tinnies
So yeah, makes sense.
00:09:06
Chris
Yeah.
00:09:07
Tackles and Tinnies
That makes sense.
00:09:08
Chris
I thought Jermaine Asako might be Rocks and Diamonds as well, but turns out he's not. he He's pretty good at about something like 42.
00:09:18
Chris
Xavier Coates is 58, so he's way more rocks and diamonds than Wollatalo, interestingly.
00:09:21
Tackles and Tinnies
True.
00:09:23
Chris
And also another one that you and I privately talked about about buying for a while, Tommy Dearden. He's also 61 as well, so he's wildly inconsistent.
00:09:34
Tackles and Tinnies
Okay.
00:09:35
Chris
So he goes massive or goes really badly sometimes.
00:09:37
Tackles and Tinnies
Has that fluctuated at the start of the year more so you think or since he's better at now at halfback?
00:09:44
Chris
I reckon it would be more so at the beginning of the year because he had some absolute poor numbers.
00:09:47
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah.
00:09:49
Chris
you know Since he's moved to halfback and you know since he you know since he's he got picked at Origin again you know and he took over DCE's position, he's been fantastic for the Cowles.
00:10:00
Tackles and Tinnies
Yep.
00:10:00
Chris
Yeah.
00:10:01
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah. So you'd probably assume that the guys near the top are probably wingers, correct, on average?
00:10:08
Chris
they They're all pretty much all backs.
00:10:11
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah.
00:10:11
Chris
So it's Bostock, DWZ, Weeks, Deerlin, Coates, AKP, and Strange. Yeah.
00:10:17
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah.
00:10:19
Chris
I actually, to be honest, i didn't even check. i didn't I didn't check forwards, actually, to be honest. But that's because they're generally consistent. They're not going to go massive and also very, i like to go low because they've got to rack up base, really.
00:10:25
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah.
00:10:28
Tackles and Tinnies
100%. Yep. Mate, I love that.
00:10:30
Chris
Yeah.
00:10:31
Tackles and Tinnies
I want something else like that next week, mate. Pressure's on. That was very insightful. Yeah, interesting. It would definitely make sense of guys like Bostock and even Coates, another guy.
00:10:42
Tackles and Tinnies
Very much depends on the ball. If you they're getting the ball, like obviously Coates has got that aerial threat, but man, Herbie at the start of the year was not looking to pass. And yeah, that makes complete sense to me now. yeah I do want to wind back a little bit back to the Broncos.
00:10:59
Tackles and Tinnies
Have you looked at Team West Tuesday at all?
00:11:02
Chris
i have
00:11:03
Tackles and Tinnies
What are your thoughts on the current Broncos predicament? Do you like what they've done? Would you have done something differently?
00:11:12
Chris
I'm not a big Broncos fan, but I do like what Madge has done for them. You know, like I think they're incredibly lucky. Imagine, you know, Reynolds going out and you have Ben Hunt come me in.
00:11:23
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah. Yeah.
00:11:24
Chris
I think, you know, a e he wasn't, you know, he didn't base much last year. Talking just talking about Supercoach, and I'll link it to Real Footy as well, he doesn't base much, but, you know, he made Jaden Sewell look like a superstar, you know, the last two seasons, you know, whilst at the Dragons.
00:11:38
Tackles and Tinnies
yeah
00:11:39
Chris
I think he could make Jordan Rickey do something very similarly. For people who were still playing draft head-to-head finals, I think Jordan Rickey might be a really good pickup, only because he could technically drag a try. He's been basing really, really well.
00:11:53
Chris
I like Billy Walters at 5'8". I think Billy Walters has been one of their you know shining sparks this season. He's been very consistent. Every time he comes off the bench, he does things for them. you know I also like Corey Paik's.
00:12:04
Chris
you know I think that you know he provides good spark. and And I'm really hoping that now that they have a few less attacking weapons, because I think sometimes it's a case of embarrassment of riches.
00:12:15
Chris
I don't know if you're familiar with NBA
00:12:20
Chris
Ryan, I think you are. But too I think of the Broncos a little bit like 2004 Lakers, where they had Shaq, Gary Payton, you know, Karl Malone, like literally everybody, obviously Kobe Bryant.
00:12:21
Tackles and Tinnies
Pretty familiar, yep.
00:12:25
Tackles and Tinnies
Mm.
00:12:28
Tackles and Tinnies
Caridine. Yep.
00:12:33
Chris
And there's just too many superstars. And sometimes the people who should be getting the ball consistently don't get the ball, you know. And therefore, now that I'm hoping that, you know, they have a few less superstars, they're going to pass the ball more to Rhys.
00:12:44
Chris
They're going to let him create. he's He's got to step up. And, you know, you can mess around when, In my opinion, when you're not the main man, you can just do spread whatever it is. But when you have to be the guy and there's pressure on you and everybody in Brisbane is looking up to you, you're going to take it more seriously.
00:12:58
Tackles and Tinnies
yep
00:12:59
Chris
The error is going to come down. you're going to play a way more smarter footy, a lot more heads up, less risk adverse as well.
00:13:04
Tackles and Tinnies
yep and it's just interesting to think too because like the broncos had that log jam at the start of the year of four to five hookers on their uh roster and now they're all playing so i i ah think that's pretty funny to note uh
00:13:06
Chris
So I actually quite like it really in many ways. What about you?
00:13:23
Tackles and Tinnies
kind of wanted to see Katoni Staggs have a crack at five, eight low key. always got Jesse Arthurs on the extended bench and obviously Carapani there as well.
00:13:34
Tackles and Tinnies
And then you could put Dean Mariner at center. I think Ben Hunt could be the guy just controlling the rock and they've obviously going to get good service from Billy Walters at hooker. I would just love to see Ketone Sack at the ball more. Like he's just so devastating running the ball.
00:13:49
Tackles and Tinnies
Don't know how good his short passing game or kicking game is, but I know he has played 5'8 for Tonga in the past. So obviously he's got some skill there.
00:13:59
Tackles and Tinnies
But I think him getting the ball more and Ben Hunt just being that focal point and Reece Walsh obviously helping that as well. I think that I'd be more scared of Ketone at 5'8 than I would be Billy Walters.
00:14:12
Tackles and Tinnies
Is that a fair call or not?
00:14:12
Chris
Yeah. Oh, look, i don't I don't necessarily disagree with you. You know, in the NRL, you know, in the last few seasons, we've seen the rise of these. five eight run first five eights, you know, like ah Fletcher Sharp this season and AJ Brimson, you know, if Tony Staggs is that type of person who, you know, is always supporting, you know, sniffing around the ruck, ready to receive an offload off a pain horse and just run through a hole, 100% that I guess you look.
00:14:25
Tackles and Tinnies
Yep.
00:14:41
Chris
Madge was the last coach for New South Wales who actually won a series. So trust in Madge is what I say.
00:14:48
Tackles and Tinnies
yeah Fair, fair, fair, fair. But yeah, I think Broncos, it's pretty much, they've got to win this week. And the Dolphins too, they're pretty much right on the bubble. So whoever wins this game, I think is safe. And I think whoever loses this game, they're probably out. So you can probably expect Suncorp saying it's going absolutely jam-packed, 45,000 plus. So that probably, as a Queenslander especially, that's going to be a ah a game to watch.
00:15:13
Tackles and Tinnies
there anyone else you want to note looking at Teamless Tuesday?
00:15:18
Chris
Let me have a little look at what I read. Yeah, actually, Isaiah Yeo, he's not back.
00:15:24
Tackles and Tinnies
yeah
00:15:24
Chris
And Isaiah Papa Lee starts at 13 for the Panfords again. i was Even before then, I was going to tell you know the listeners if that you know he's got that right shoulder instability. and you know if And if you were thinking about buying Yo, you know downgrading some sort of 2RF, or you were thinking about trading Nicker out to Yo, I would have told you not to do it, you know given how well Papa Lee's been playing you know at lock.
00:15:49
Chris
I think Yo just gets an early shower pretty much. And i was going to say either sell or avoid. And now that he's not playing again, i would almost argue
00:15:55
Tackles and Tinnies
Yep.
00:15:56
Chris
I probably wouldn't say sell. He could come back in the next two weeks and he'll be a really, really good number in the final two rounds, especially when other rotations, people still get inside getting to sit, sat in around 26 or 27.
00:16:10
Tackles and Tinnies
yeah
00:16:11
Chris
Tanner Boyd is back at halfback. I think there was talks about... I think there was talks about... Jack Cleary, maybe, debuting, possibly.
00:16:23
Tackles and Tinnies
Oh, smoky. Yeah.
00:16:25
Chris
But yeah, Jacob Kieros, he's been named at fullback. Connor Tracy's back on the extended, but I don't really like Kieros at fullback. You know, he plays that, you know, he plays that right centre wing, sorry, right centre role when he's attacking.
00:16:36
Tackles and Tinnies
Yep.
00:16:40
Chris
He doesn't really get any points and then He's also, you know, there's no one around him when he returns the ball, you know, so he can't offload. So he's a bit down. Latrell Mitt, he's at centre again.
00:16:51
Chris
You know, for people are thinking about buying him, it's really hard to buy him at centre. You really need him at full back. So wouldn't touch him. Dylan Brown of the Eels, he's at left centre. Loves, he's back this week.
00:17:04
Tackles and Tinnies
I don't like it, not going to lie. actually kind of like him at centre.
00:17:08
Chris
Really? Why? why
00:17:10
Tackles and Tinnies
I think he's just got a great running game. very crafty, can get the ball long, got some good speed, solid defensively.
00:17:12
Chris
Yep.
00:17:17
Tackles and Tinnies
Obviously hasn't got many reps there, but he's only one more only one shifted out to the other side of the field. So it's not the end of the world in terms of positioning. Obviously, probably want him to get the ball more due the fact that good ball player.
00:17:30
Tackles and Tinnies
But, hey, you could do worse than putting Dylan Brand out in this and in the centres, that's for sure.
00:17:37
Chris
uh, Jesus wrote incarnate at the Tigers, Adam Dway. He's, uh, he's at half back. He's been killing it, you know?
00:17:42
Tackles and Tinnies
Bro, don't get me started. Some of these names, I'm just getting so annoyed.
00:17:49
Chris
oh, look, here's a name that you'll be happy with, uh, Ryan, uh, turbo.
00:17:54
Chris
He's starting at fullback again, even though, Lee high's back. He's at wing and then, Jazzy Tavanga.
00:17:59
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah.
00:18:02
Tackles and Tinnies
My boy, Jazzy.
00:18:02
Chris
a Vikings clap fame, premature Vikings clap fame. is's it's He's starting at lock because Jake Travojovic, he's out probably for extended time because he's had his third HIA for the season.
00:18:05
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah.
00:18:15
Chris
then this is my favourite one only because I'm jealous that I don't own him. Dean Gagai, he's back at centre. So for everybody who bought him, tears.
00:18:26
Chris
I think Newcastle are debuting a one Connor Batani at fullback, so good luck to
00:18:31
Tackles and Tinnies
I
Injuries and Player Replacements
00:18:31
Chris
him.
00:18:31
Tackles and Tinnies
haven't heard much about him, to be honest, but I'm sure he must be pretty good if he's shifting gang-gag eye out into the centres. think you missed out on one boy too, Chris, in case I've interrupted you, but my boy, my actual boy, the name of my team, Pappenhausen.
00:18:47
Tackles and Tinnies
He's got concussion. Meany's at fullback.
00:18:50
Chris
Really? i didn't...
00:18:51
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah.
00:18:52
Chris
Look, I saw that. All I looked at when I looked at Melbourne was I just had to double check and see if Kane Bradley was going to ruin my week. Adam, our co-host, he's brought another very nice gift basket of fruit to Craig Bellamy, so he's not playing him, so we're safe. He's on the extended bench.
00:19:08
Tackles and Tinnies
Fantastic.
00:19:08
Chris
Really?
00:19:09
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah. So goal-kicking Nick Meaney at fullback, mate. So that's going to be juicy. Obviously, it's the Penrith Panthers. Not the most desirable matchup, but yeah, definitely one to note.
00:19:20
Tackles and Tinnies
Maybe a draft pick up if he's not in there. So we will see. We will see. But I've got a beef to pick with you going off some of the names you rattled off.
00:19:31
Tackles and Tinnies
And i'm going to give you one guess who the player is.
00:19:35
Chris
It's Tamari Martin, isn't it?
00:19:36
Tackles and Tinnies
Tamari bloody Martin, mate. So listeners, we were just chilling on a Saturday afternoon and i was like, okay, I need to make some definitive decisions for both draft and classic, whether I'm going to loop or whether I'm going to make a last second trade. And I did make a last second trade, but not in classic. It was draft.
00:19:56
Tackles and Tinnies
I love Tamari Martin. I thought he was so good last year. and I did notice, and I did notice he was starting, Tanner Boy got dropped. So Tanner Boy's obviously playing this week because Tamayo Martin's got the the head knock.
00:20:07
Tackles and Tinnies
But last week, i was like, just got a vibe. Tamayo Martin might be good. And I did hear it was wet in Sydney, but I didn't realize it was like biblical floods on the field.
00:20:18
Tackles and Tinnies
And as soon as I started running on the turned my TV on, started running on the field, they feel like this far underwater in some places.
00:20:21
Chris
Thank
00:20:25
Tackles and Tinnies
I'm like... probably not the best trade. So, yeah, ruined my loop. could have gone at Bradman Best at 52 points, but instead I picked up Tamari Martin's three points.
00:20:36
Tackles and Tinnies
With that decision and not playing Gutho over Cobo, yeah, that was my draft failure against Adams. So... What could have been? What could have been?
00:20:46
Tackles and Tinnies
But I'm very interested into talking about Nick Meany. Now, again, Pappenhausen, 11-day stand down, probably misses this week and next. So that will take us to round 26, probably plays one more round, and then maybe even gets rested round 27. Is there any love for Nick Meany?
00:21:08
Chris
For me, nah, nah, not at all. it's He's a two-week play. And for me, who has only two trades left, I can't afford him or can't buy him, really. He's not worth it.
00:21:20
Chris
But I don't necessarily disagree with you because the last time Pappy was out and Meany was playing at fullback the first time, he scored 165 against the Cowboys.
00:21:33
Chris
But I will say, Ryan, it was against the Cowboys. Their draw is absolutely piss-ball. You said earlier that they're playing Penrith away, but then they play the Bulldogs, the Roosters, and then they finish off of the Broncos, who now have to win the next couple of games, and they're going to be trying real hard.
00:21:49
Tackles and Tinnies
yeah
00:21:51
Chris
so It's tough, tough. I do think that he'll score well. i reckon I wouldn't be surprised he averaged 70 to 80. So it's not bad.
00:21:58
Tackles and Tinnies
yeah
00:21:59
Chris
But I think it's it's such a risky pod. We're very low upside. Like he could score that 160 again, but there's a very good chance that he won't. And so therefore, I think he's an avoid.
00:22:09
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah.
00:22:10
Chris
just not worth it at this time of the year.
00:22:12
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah. Yeah, I think he's a he's very tempting. As I said, draft pick up maybe if you got into the finals. But even that, so like the Penrith Panthers are just that bloody good. I think the Titans putting...
00:22:26
Tackles and Tinnies
Was it 26 points on the other week when they got absolutely robbed? Robbed. That was a bit of a blip in the arm of the Penrith Panthers. againt Especially against big teams, they always stand up, regardless who's ever on the field.
00:22:41
Tackles and Tinnies
I want to talk about some...
00:22:41
Chris
Yeah, yeah actually you're right, but actually. you're you You're right in the sense that if yeah if he's if he's if he's in your draft, yeah, and he hasn't been bought, pick him up. But in our draft, Ryan, there is only one fullback who actually is still playing that hasn't been picked up, and it's Bentley Harfei of the Bunnies.
00:22:59
Chris
Every other player is a non-playing player in fullback or injured this year.
00:23:04
Tackles and Tinnies
Crazy.
00:23:04
Chris
Yeah. Yeah.
00:23:05
Tackles and Tinnies
Crazy. Yeah. Draft is another story. Tell you what.
00:23:09
Chris
Yeah.
00:23:09
Tackles and Tinnies
Now i'm looking at the top 10% of trades in this week and a guy on this list and he's definitely in the yard the top 1% I believe as well. It's
Supercoach Trades and Player Evaluations
00:23:19
Tackles and Tinnies
Sammy Walker.
00:23:20
Tackles and Tinnies
So obviously popped off last week. Very, very attack reliant. He's currently at 705k. Obviously, got that huge score last week when the Roosters just absolutely annihilated the Dolphins. But they got matchup of the Doggies, Parramatta, Melbourne, South Sydney. So obviously, two hard matchups and two relatively easy matchups if you're looking at the Roosters.
00:23:47
Tackles and Tinnies
Have you got any love for Sam Walker? Goal kicking Sam Walker missed like one out of the past 30 kicks.
00:23:53
Chris
Oh, I'm very interested in Sam Walker. Like, I'm just going to say straight up, he would be in my team this week if it wasn't the fact I couldn't afford him. And I'll talk about that later.
00:24:02
Tackles and Tinnies
Mm-hmm.
00:24:03
Chris
But yeah, no, he's averaging 81 since he came back. he He controls the entire team. He's had three or more try assists the past three games.
00:24:14
Chris
You know, like you said, very attack reliant. i ay If you have the ability, I think you want to buy this week. I know that a lot of people are going to be holding this week and for for two reasons. The first one is what you said.
00:24:27
Chris
He plays the Doggies, who are really, really good team. And also, whilst Nico plays the Titans, I think are going lot of people next week who are going plan to trade Nico whilst he's when he's on the buy and then when Sammy Walker's matchups soften up because they play Parramatta, Melbourne, and then the Bunnies.
00:24:46
Tackles and Tinnies
yeah
00:24:46
Chris
i I would say if you can wait, fine. Wait it out for this week if you want to or if you're not convinced, you want to just see him, you know.
00:24:57
Chris
But here's the thing. there's i don't think there's any advantage to waiting, right, because he's got break-even of 24. He's going to hit that this week, definitely. He's only going to go up in price. So you might as well get him now whilst he's the cheapest he can be.
00:25:09
Chris
I actually wish I could have got him. I was actually thinking about getting him last week, but I thought I'd give Drinky another go. last week and then then um and now drinky dropped a lot of money and i just can't get drink i can't trade drinky to sam walk into one trade i was thinking about going him nico and cleary in the final for the final run home and putting yes and walking my flex but so i'm pretty sad that i can't do that but i've got another person who i'm thinking about maybe just trading too but yeah i think that if you can get him he should be actually number one trade even though no one's trading him because on the because everybody's going to get him next week and on the off chance he pops off against the doggies
00:25:22
Tackles and Tinnies
yeah
00:25:44
Chris
You've got a massive score against everybody else, one up on everybody else. This is one of those trades that you want to make early, potentially.
00:25:50
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah. Yeah, I tell you what, like that left side attack now, because Mark Nwonginitawase has been catching a cold besides last week, obviously, because who knows, I was just a blip in that whole scenario. It's getting 60 plus points.
00:26:06
Tackles and Tinnies
But Daniel Tupo always comes good, super consistent. But now Sammy Walker's back. He's got a five-round average of 78 and a three-round average of 77.
00:26:18
Tackles and Tinnies
Got 107 points last week. Tell you what, if I had more than one trade, and I still could potentially do it for Herbie Farmworth, any love for Daniel Tupo?
00:26:30
Chris
Yeah, for sure. You know, for anybody who like got him a couple of weeks ago, you know, when they knew that he was coming back, you know, kudos to you guys, you know, well, well deserved. I think at that time, i think when that was around, I think people, that was awake for the the final mini, the final mini buy, was it?
00:26:49
Chris
Or was it the final buy?
00:26:49
Tackles and Tinnies
yeah
00:26:50
Chris
And everybody jumped the mark, no longer needed a while, was it? And he scored that, was that 110 or something that week? ah The one that, The one that, the week that you were in Zealand, in a cave, in a hole. Yeah, right. That one.
00:27:01
Chris
And you missed out on Mark. So I reckon, I think ah there's not that many people who probably jumped on Daniel Tooper. I think he's 7% owned at the moment.
00:27:09
Tackles and Tinnies
Bro, he's not 7% owned. Guess how much he's owned.
00:27:12
Chris
Is he? Well, I said 7%. That's why I said 7% because I think it's 7%.
00:27:17
Tackles and Tinnies
Two.
00:27:18
Chris
Oh, is he? He's only 2% owned.
00:27:19
Tackles and Tinnies
He's a pod, man.
00:27:19
Chris
Yeah.
00:27:20
Tackles and Tinnies
Like, if you're trying to differentiate yourself, guy like myself who's stuck in the burrows of the top 2%, maybe 2% owned and the top 2% might be correlated.
00:27:21
Chris
Yeah.
00:27:29
Tackles and Tinnies
I might be able do a fusion and pop off this week, potentially. I don't know. I'm scared. Bulldogs.
00:27:37
Chris
But I think yeah a lot of people would have held off on buying him because they got Mark and they didn't want to go, they didn't want to double up on the entire, you know, along with Teddy in the entire, you know, Roosters back line.
00:27:42
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah.
00:27:46
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah.
00:27:48
Chris
But look, i don't think if you want to jump on him because in terms of like, people to buy now now, you know, in terms of herpy replacements, there aren't any really good, you know, 700K plus guys really, to be honest, who are like, you know, premium, like Val Holmes, they're all injured now.
00:28:04
Chris
So you're looking at mid mid-range, you know, centres who have really good upside, but they also could be just, you know, average, you know, like Tupou, Stephen Crichton,
00:28:16
Chris
And so, therefore, as a result, oh, and both thermal. So, therefore, yeah, why not? Jump on Daniel Tupo if you think he's going to go massive. Yeah, 100%.
00:28:25
Tackles and Tinnies
Tell you what, I'd be looking at Timico, but obviously he's on the the buy. but I am worried that he's going to get rested around 27. So got the Panthers, then West Tigers. Definitely not a guy to buy this week or probably next. So if you missed out on Timico couple of weeks ago, definitely would be a...
00:28:41
Tackles and Tinnies
fading him now we talked about rocks and diamonds even broke the analytical breakdown ronnie mulatalo against my woeful gold coast titans is their love for him at sharky park i believe
00:28:57
Chris
I'm going to say 100% always, anytime you're playing the Titans, you know, they the refs will help, will manage to help the opponents win something. or Or the trainers will help them win, you know.
00:29:11
Chris
Is it too soon? Too soon? wow
00:29:13
Tackles and Tinnies
Too soon.
00:29:14
Chris
But, yeah, look, ah look there's a he probably will go massive against the Titans this week. but But my question is, why did you not, like,
00:29:25
Chris
I can't imagine anybody wanting to get him now, you know, when they could have played St George last week and, you know, the Bunnies the week before. If you haven't got him, you're not getting him now. But, yeah, he'll go big this week.
00:29:34
Tackles and Tinnies
yeah
00:29:35
Chris
Just remember, he's on the bye next week. If you've got Nico Hines, you could run into maybe not enough players. And then they finish on the Bulldog. Oh, sorry, Newcastle and Bulldog. So, you know, it could be one big score and then two low scores.
00:29:45
Tackles and Tinnies
yeah
00:29:48
Chris
It could be two big scores or one low score. Yeah. So, no, probably don't do it now.
00:29:54
Tackles and Tinnies
And there's another guy, Chris. And we talked about rocks and diamonds. And I'm looking at his average scores. And he's looking pretty rock and diamond-y. And it's Tain Tuapeki. He's managed to hold a spot after the Warriors' loss.
00:30:07
Tackles and Tinnies
Obviously, didn't with Tamari Martin getting injured mid-game. Starting at fullback, Warriors' back line still looks bloody juicy and the halves combination of Tanner Boyd and ah who did I give you an absolute dime to? What's his name again?
00:30:22
Tackles and Tinnies
ah moment like but I'm to mind. Tamare Martin, absolute dime. So, listeners, I just thought, Dave Fafita, he's coming back. I've got a vibe and the vibe was wrong. i was like, I'll give you Tamare Martin and you give me Dave Fafita. And Chris is like, 100%.
00:30:24
Chris
Tamari Martin?
00:30:38
Chris
no, it was Chanel Harris. Harris-Tabita.
00:30:40
Tackles and Tinnies
Oh, sorry. Yeah. Chanel Harris-Tavita.
00:30:41
Chris
No, Chanel, sorry, sorry.
00:30:42
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah. Chanel Harris-Tavita. Yeah. Absolute. He's been my... Mystic and sister. I actually had Blaise along it start the year. Might I add to you. Anyway. Yeah.
00:30:52
Tackles and Tinnies
Got... Did the trade. And then all a sudden, Dave Fafida and Dez Heisler decided to have an internal biff. And then hurt his ankle again. So, no Dave Fafida. And I just gave you a free player.
00:31:06
Tackles and Tinnies
So...
00:31:07
Chris
Oh, so good. So good. The best part was, hey, you weren't so, hey, before the trade happened, you were you were so excited. You were like, oh, I'm getting, you're like, oh, Chris is an idiot.
00:31:15
Tackles and Tinnies
It was, man. It was...
00:31:18
Chris
He's, you know, and I was like, dude, I've held Fafina for the whole year.
00:31:23
Chris
He's been so bad. He's so annoying. I'm sick of him. i was so happy to upload him. Yeah.
00:31:29
Tackles and Tinnies
And just... It was the one position of weakness. Like, if I had, like, a decent... one to RF, I'd be like, yeah, sweet. But like Hosking and bloody T Wilton, like they're just mid, like I needed someone a bit of upside and day for feeder. You just, you better pop off next year, mate. I tell you what, you better pop off.
00:31:47
Tackles and Tinnies
So, is there any other players you want to talk about? Chris, it's,
00:31:52
Chris
Yeah. My second favourite boy behind Drinkie, Tommy Turbo. i don't know. i did this i did these notes last night, but he' I think he's the number one traded most traded in the top 1% this week.
00:32:06
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah, well.
00:32:09
Chris
He's 631K. And I think that people are either sick of Drinkie or they're looking to move Edwards on now, that Penrith running to a harder draw. i I think he has a good... I don't Ryan.
00:32:26
Chris
I'm not sure I'm convinced with Tommy. like You know, like oh like, my concern is that he just doesn't seem to have the lateral quickness or the strength to drag himself across the try line when he's sweeping from 10 metres out.
00:32:41
Chris
Like, and instead, I think he's being bundled up into into into touch by the defenders. And I guess that you could look at it optimistically because last week, you know, he got himself in some really good, you know, really good and dangerous positions during the sweeps.
00:32:56
Chris
And I guess if you're optimistic, glass half full, you'd go, hey, You know, he's just inches from scoring. Like, I know he's your team, Ryan, but like, what are your thoughts on him?
00:33:02
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah.
00:33:04
Chris
Like, do you, when you're watching him play, are you going, oh, fucking hell? Or are you like, bro, you guys are so lucky. Like, you guys are so lucky you didn't score. Like, I could be, you know, I'm i'm like, if he was going off, I'd be i'd be winning 50K this year.
00:33:20
Tackles and Tinnies
yeah I am terrified of not owning Tom Truboevich, but I'm the lucky 10% who does own Tom Truboevich when he's at center, and obviously he's been shifted back to fullback.
00:33:31
Tackles and Tinnies
Actually, low-key thought Kula might have got a sniff at fullback. I just think he's just absolutely a weapon of a player.
00:33:35
Chris
right.
00:33:38
Tackles and Tinnies
And was actually hoping was going to get there because I was going to trade him in this week. But back to Turbo. i
Player Performance Concerns and Trade Debates
00:33:45
Tackles and Tinnies
think if the Manly Seagulls had a slightly better go forward and maybe with our our boy, my 10th boy of the podcast, Jaz Tavunga, gets a roll on for them in the lock position instead of Jerbo.
00:34:00
Tackles and Tinnies
I think, yeah, I think it's just the forwards. The forwards aren't going forward enough to get Tom Turbo on the front foot, if that makes sense.
00:34:10
Tackles and Tinnies
Obviously, Cherry Evans has lost a bit of form, but again, he's still got that pedigree of being a good player. And I think with Lee Hyde back, there's more strike out wide. Another week of Turbo getting reps, getting some legs underneath him again, more confidence.
00:34:10
Chris
Yep.
00:34:26
Tackles and Tinnies
I think it's more confidence is the biggest thing. I'm just terrified of not owning him. And again, if we look at the draw right now, West Tigers, good matchup. Dolphin, great matchup.
00:34:37
Tackles and Tinnies
Dragons, that's fifty fifty And Warriors, 50-50. So yeah, very desirable. Cheap as all hell. has the upside of getting 150 potentially.
00:34:50
Tackles and Tinnies
And his floor's not too bad. Like he's got a pretty good work rate. Yeah. He's probably not break as many tackles as he was in previous seasons. But yeah, his floor is still 50 points. so So yeah, if you get 50 points, you're happy with that, especially for a non goal kicking fullback.
00:35:05
Chris
Yeah, well, I mean, like, look, since that 123 against the Bunnies, he's he scored 74, 76, 56, 55.
00:35:11
Chris
Like, and that was against Melbourne Dogs, Roosters, Raiders. These are all strong defensive teams. And as you said, their draw looks good. I'd actually argue that the Warriors game is also a really good game for them because they've been leaking points.
00:35:25
Chris
They've just absolutely decimated. Now they're trying to talk about, trying you know, originally they were talking about, you know, finishing top four strong, and now they're just trying to hold on to fifth, really, you know.
00:35:32
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah.
00:35:34
Chris
Yeah, like...
00:35:34
Tackles and Tinnies
True.
00:35:35
Chris
do you Do you think that – I think the issue for me as well, in addition to me saying, hey, I don't think he has that you know that that strength that he would to bustle over that try line, Manly just playing shit as well.
00:35:46
Tackles and Tinnies
Yes, definitely.
00:35:46
Chris
like Like, do you think that – do you think that Manly have to play well for him to
00:35:54
Tackles and Tinnies
I think it just comes down the forward pack, mate. I think like if the forward pack's going well, DCE plays better, which means he gets better ball.
00:36:02
Chris
Yep.
00:36:03
Tackles and Tinnies
That's literally what it comes down to.
00:36:04
Chris
Fine.
00:36:05
Tackles and Tinnies
So Paseca, I believe, might be coming back in round 25, 26, potentially, if Manly are a hunt for the top eight.
00:36:13
Chris
Yep.
00:36:13
Tackles and Tinnies
So that could be something to be a noteworthy as well, because obviously he was so destructive at the start of the year, and obviously ah for the Tri-Nations Cup that they had.
00:36:24
Tackles and Tinnies
So yeah, i think it's just the the forward pack, man. I think I think that solves a lot of issues for Manly. And I know Randall, he always gets so frustrated watching them because as we saw last week, they had such red hot start.
00:36:36
Tackles and Tinnies
They started really, really well. Turbo and Saab were supporting off that arm kick. Bang, Turbo scored. ah was Yahooing. Adam was on the the chat saying, i have to buy Turbo.
00:36:47
Tackles and Tinnies
Instantly jinxed them. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I actually think I jinxed everyone because I said, yes, Turbo Pod, and then he did absolutely nothing after that. I actually think I might be cursed, eh? Like, I'm not even kidding.
00:36:59
Tackles and Tinnies
It's actually getting bad. Yeah.
00:37:02
Chris
Oh, you've had the touch, absolute touch, you know, the last few weeks. You just, you know, what was it? A few weeks ago when Reece Walsh was doing, you know, after 30 minutes doing trash, he said, you just wrote, he's doing trash.
00:37:14
Chris
You know, he's a trash buy. Next minute, 149.
00:37:15
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah.
00:37:16
Chris
Yep.
00:37:17
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah, literally.
00:37:17
Chris
ye
00:37:18
Tackles and Tinnies
All right, who do I need? So I'm looking at my team quick. I'm going, let's go Turbo. Let's chuck it on Turbo. you're going to do trash this week.
00:37:29
Tackles and Tinnies
I'm chucking the captaincy on you.
00:37:35
Tackles and Tinnies
We will see.
00:37:35
Chris
Okay, well well, good to know, really, you know, and, and you know, Jake Travojevic, who's out of that pack, so, but you know, any any pack without Jake Travojevic. Sorry, I love you. I think you're the second smartest man in NRL, in footy, behind Cooper Cronk, but I just don't think he he's ah he's a first-rate or NRL quality starting 13 anymore.
00:37:55
Tackles and Tinnies
Yep.
00:37:57
Chris
Yeah, so hopefully...
00:37:58
Tackles and Tinnies
No.
00:37:59
Chris
Yeah, hopefully, hopefully, Turbo does well, actually, yeah.
00:38:02
Tackles and Tinnies
Yep. Now, I also want to talk about the fraud, my nemesis, Nico Hines. So, as you mentioned previously with Sam Walker, they got the buy next week, correct? Yes.
00:38:17
Tackles and Tinnies
The Sharky.
00:38:17
Chris
Yes, yep.
00:38:18
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah. Would you... Obviously, they got a very good matchup this week against the Titans. After neck this week, would you sell Hines?
00:38:29
Chris
As I said earlier in the podcast, a lot of people are going to think about it. And i I wouldn't... If you've got... Like, originally, you know, I was going to say, if you don't have the trades, don't do it.
00:38:42
Chris
Out of everything we're talking about, listeners, at the end the day, the number one rule is if you have 17 or 18 warm bodies, probably try to... And you've got only two trades left, try to hold them because they're go to be carnage in round 26 and round 27.
00:38:55
Chris
But in many ways, I would say... If possible, I would trade him. I think Sam Walker is just a way better player, really, if possible.
00:39:03
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah.
00:39:04
Chris
You know, like, Nico's really disappointing. You know, I think he's a really good VC option this week, but I don't think you can put a C on him. I think last two weeks, he's started did really, really well, had a try assist and a line break assist real early in the game.
00:39:21
Chris
And then second half, he's just gone missing and he hasn't touched the ball at all. You know, and Trindle's touched the ball. Like, Remember a few weeks ago when he did that big, was it 139 or whatever it is.
00:39:32
Chris
and i And I, and I, and I tricked you into, I convinced you into buying you, you know, and I was saying, look, he's demanding the war, you know, he's sweeping, he's getting angry at Jaden, uh, Jaden Fraley when he's not, is it Jaden, Blake Fraley when he's not getting the war.
00:39:43
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah.
00:39:47
Chris
Yeah.
00:39:48
Chris
Um, look that. words Words in my mouth because it's completely been the opposite. like that It was like a one-off that week and so he's really pissing me off too.
00:39:55
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah.
00:39:58
Chris
and you know I'll just tell you my plans. I'm seriously considering trading Drinkie out this week without the goal kicking to Tommy Turbo. That gives me an extra 70k and then that allows me next week to move Nico on to Sammy Walker.
00:40:16
Chris
Admittedly, then I'm done for the rest of the season but I I think it's a better team than the current team that I'm in.
00:40:23
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah. So, Asako is just your rocks and diamonds. You're going just pray.
00:40:26
Chris
Yeah. just Yeah, I'm just going to hope that you know he plays so poorly that he gets dropped or something like that. i know
00:40:33
Tackles and Tinnies
He ain't getting dropped, mate. He's pretty good. ah He's pretty good. When healthy, are think he's just, yeah, bit injured. Yeah, it's interesting to note. I think we're also disrespecting Dragon Slayer.
00:40:46
Tackles and Tinnies
His name is Clint Gutherson, the Gutherino. Ever since we've been sledging him on this podcast, since we dropped him like three months ago, he's actually done pretty good.
00:40:57
Tackles and Tinnies
And again, last week in draft, I had him and I decided to play Cobbo. Poor decision because he got like 94 or something. Is there love for Gutho? And more importantly, realize number 22 on the Dragons bench, guess who's back?
00:41:15
Chris
The money man.
00:41:16
Tackles and Tinnies
The money man's back, baby. And I reckon he's going to play this week. So he played last week in New South Wales Cup. Didn't do a hammy. I'm touching wood everything again. Yeah, I reckon money man's back this week. And if money man's in, my boy Gutharino, I reckon he's yeah he's going to pop off.
00:41:34
Tackles and Tinnies
are your thoughts?
00:41:36
Chris
Look, right, I haven't thought about your boy Gufferino at all since like since like round 12, if I'm being fair to go. Why don't you enlighten me with the stats and tell me why he why he shouldn't be retiring?
00:41:51
Tackles and Tinnies
okay so let's have a look what they're playing they're playing the Warriors okay and they're playing at Go Media not the most ideal obviously playing in New Zealand but as you just mentioned New Zealand have been leaking points you've obviously you got Char Nichols-Clockstead defending at centre so this is only his second game of the year But if i we're just having a look at his average for the year, he's done very well. He's averaging 70.
00:42:13
Tackles and Tinnies
He got a 61-3 round average. But at five hundred and fifty k it could significantly free up some cash for a guy like your Sam Walker or a guy like Daniel Tupo.
00:42:25
Tackles and Tinnies
Because if we look at their draw, it's New Zealand, South Sydney, Manly, and a potentially heavily rested Panthers team in round 27 if they've locked at the top four.
00:42:36
Tackles and Tinnies
That sounds pretty bloody juicy, and I think the Dragons are going to finish strong. And if Money Man is back and he's healthy, he could be getting 130 again, averaging. Yep. Yep.
00:42:49
Chris
So you think that he is a good third, the third fullback for the run home behind Edwards and Teddy?
00:43:01
Tackles and Tinnies
ye yep
00:43:02
Chris
And Turbo? which Where would you put him in that room?
00:43:03
Tackles and Tinnies
Yep, he's fourth. He's fourth string, but bo due to his price, he could be worth more for your team.
00:43:05
Chris
Okay, full the...
00:43:12
Chris
Yep.
00:43:12
Tackles and Tinnies
Very team dependent.
00:43:12
Chris
Yep.
00:43:15
Tackles and Tinnies
Like if you want to get rid of a guy who's like 500K and all of a sudden you can save $250,000, bang, there's your Sam Walker trade as an example, or bang, there's your Payne Haas trade. He definitely could facilitate.
00:43:28
Tackles and Tinnies
And he's overall, he's pretty consistent. And again, he's versed some pretty hard teams in recent weeks, and he's actually delivered. So i think with the money man back, it's always good juju.
00:43:38
Tackles and Tinnies
And again, with South Sydney, Warriors, Manly, and a potentially very heavily rested Panthers team, which I probably think they'll rest anyway because I think they're going to secure a top four by then.
00:43:50
Tackles and Tinnies
That's a pretty bloody juicy lineup.
00:43:54
Chris
Yeah, I see what you're saying. So you're basically saying, hey, in in a vacuum by himself, no. But if it means that you get somebody else really good, then it's worth it.
00:44:03
Tackles and Tinnies
Correct. Yep.
00:44:04
Chris
Look, do you know what? i don't like i can i can I can get behind your reasoning. I would argue that just don't do it this week. You know, ah like, as in, I think you want to watch him.
00:44:16
Chris
Like, as in, like, against New Zealand at, gee, you know, at, yeah, go Midesan.
00:44:19
Tackles and Tinnies
Yep.
00:44:20
Chris
That's a hard, that's a hard one.
00:44:20
Tackles and Tinnies
yeah
00:44:21
Chris
Even Donate could lick points. Massive, and it's always wet, you know. And would say that if he goes big, then you can get him next week but because they're playing Souths. You know, and yeah, and I think, yeah, sure. Why not? Yeah. But I would say, wait.
00:44:36
Chris
Yeah. But I'm not going to go, no. Yeah. And thanks to you, I now have to reset my last time I thought about guffo counter. Back to zero.
00:44:45
Tackles and Tinnies
But he's just pure vibes, pure vibes. And I think the caveat is if Tua Pallotta is there, get him in. If he's not there, you wait a week and get him the week after.
00:44:58
Tackles and Tinnies
That's for sure. I just got a feeling. You know, the feeling, it's coming, it's vibing.
00:45:01
Chris
ye
00:45:03
Tackles and Tinnies
That's the vibe. If Tua is there with him, lock him in. If he's not, you wait a week. And again, Auckland could be very, very weak. Yeah. If you've got any Dolphins, I'm just having look at the fullbacks here. If you've got Hammer, why is 728k? Get off. Get off.
00:45:18
Tackles and Tinnies
like get off I'm just having a quick look at the fullbacks.
00:45:23
Tackles and Tinnies
Just get off.
00:45:26
Chris
That's listeners. That's the, yeah that's the, the strong statistical analysis that they come from. Why is it 700k?
00:45:32
Tackles and Tinnies
it's tough
00:45:34
Chris
Get out. Yep.
00:45:35
Tackles and Tinnies
It's trash. Dolphins are done. They're done. Yeah, KO Weeks, 16 points, or it you can get 170 points, and it's on the buy. So, yeah, definitely. I'd probably be selling KO Weeks, to be honest.
00:45:48
Tackles and Tinnies
Maybe it could be a sideways trade KO Weeks to Clint Cutherson. That could be your play for those type of people.
00:45:54
Tackles and Tinnies
ah Is anything else you want to talk about, Chris, and then before we get into capital?
00:45:56
Chris
i
00:45:57
Tackles and Tinnies
Yep.
00:45:58
Chris
I probably just quickly want to talk about both thermal. as well.
00:46:00
Tackles and Tinnies
ye
00:46:01
Chris
And that's only because there's going to lot of teams who are looking to trade Nick for one this week, or people who have Herbie Hosking Nicker, especially people will bit worried about Hosking not playing this week and and next week maybe starting to lose minutes when Matty Nicholson comes back.
00:46:17
Tackles and Tinnies
Yep. yep
00:46:20
Chris
He's a number one too number two most traded in and the top 1%. And I actually think that If you're looking to trade somebody out specifically, like trading Nicker out, I think he probably actually is the best buy at this rate just because of that dual 2RF CT dub. If you rotate him along with Kane Bradley, who most people have as well, you can play Vermo in CT dub or TRF in any given week. So, for example, this week, it would be amazing if yeah yeah if you could play him in in in your 2RF.
00:46:48
Chris
And as I said last week, he can jag a try at any time, and he duly did that against the Souths. last week and you know he's got a pretty good draw.
00:46:53
Tackles and Tinnies
yeah
00:46:56
Chris
Actually, I think Titans have a pretty good draw on the way home, especially Tigers, Dolphins and and New Zealand.
00:47:03
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah. Furmore, I think if he, if you haven't got Bradley in center wing or vice versa, where you can get both of them with the switch, I wouldn't do it. So for example, in my team, I'd have to trade Herbie for him, which is possible.
00:47:19
Tackles and Tinnies
But man, the Titans are just, they're not it. Not it. He did look a lot better in person last week. Obviously as a Titans member, the eye test, I think it's also another important thing, not just looking at,
00:47:30
Tackles and Tinnies
the um analytics. He looked a lot more damaging, how but just not vibing it, not feeling it.
00:47:37
Chris
Oh,
00:47:38
Tackles and Tinnies
I'd just be avoiding the Titans. I love them. Obviously, you've got JC and AJ. They can potentially pop off, but I think there's more upside players out there. and i know so second row is looking pretty desolate at the moment, particularly with the Canberra boys this week, but I would be doing my best to look elsewhere.
00:47:59
Tackles and Tinnies
personally hold
00:48:00
Chris
oh yeah, and yeah, that's fair. Yeah, and then another one as well. Last week we didn't get many things right, Ryan, you and I on the podcast. Like we said a few bad things really, you know, i sorry for everybody who bought Dane Gay Guy if he's 42.
00:48:11
Chris
But one thing you were right about, Ryan, was buying Payne House.
Acknowledging Strong Performances and Trade Value
00:48:15
Chris
Like I was a bit like, you know, I'm biblant on it and I kind of undenied, but you were just downright going, mate, get him in.
00:48:16
Tackles and Tinnies
on
00:48:23
Chris
He's going to, you know, yeah, he because he's got 83 last week and there's a lot of players who, a lot of super coach players who tried to kind of fade him a little bit, but he's now the number three most of bought in in the top 1%.
00:48:34
Chris
And yeah, that 83 is forced pretty much all non-owners to take note, really.
00:48:38
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah.
00:48:39
Chris
Yeah. Hopefully, Jake's a try this week, and he just absolutely dominates that decimated pack.
00:48:43
Tackles and Tinnies
Well, mate, think about the team that they were fielding with Cobo, Mam, and Renault all injured, particularly Mam and Renault, not giving him the ball, and he's still got 83 points.
00:48:47
Chris
Yep.
00:48:52
Chris
Yep.
00:48:54
Tackles and Tinnies
Everything I said last week, go back, watch the reels, boys and girls, part one, part two, and all your or your socials, okay? And I've provided pretty – Compelling argument on why to get him and I like being right.
00:49:07
Tackles and Tinnies
So take that, Adam.
00:49:08
Chris
and
00:49:11
Chris
ah Hey, do you like Cam Munster as well?
00:49:14
Tackles and Tinnies
I do like him on San. I like him in my team. He's been pretty mid, but he absolutely popped off last week. So what Wishart?
00:49:20
Chris
Yeah. i
00:49:22
Tackles and Tinnies
Any love I tell you what.
00:49:24
Chris
Nah, nah, not at all, not at all. Yes in draft, you know, he could go big, but nah, not at this stage. I think everything, what?
00:49:34
Tackles and Tinnies
So in draft last year, got to the grand final, standard tackles and tinnies host. So I got to the grand final in draft and it was, I think it was Randall and I versing each other in the grand final. i was like, okay, decimation everywhere. And then I saw Ty and Wishart getting picked at hooker and I'm like, I'm just going to do it. I'm going to put it in my heart. I need something.
00:49:56
Tackles and Tinnies
And he got like 150 points in round like, Seriously, easy God, am i I won. Cash league, give me the money, man. Yeah, absolutely. I'll always appreciate Wishart.
00:50:08
Tackles and Tinnies
So we'll give you a shout, especially with the 5'8 halfback jewel. Especially, he's so cheap, man. like ah ah He could be another guy who could instantly free you up to a gun somewhere. He could get you that Blake Braley hooker position. He could get you that Payne Haas from a mediocre front roller. He definitely could be an option as a five eight or halfback two.
00:50:30
Tackles and Tinnies
for you
00:50:31
Chris
Yeah, well, well actually, Wishy was amazing last year, i must admit. I mean, what was he like? It was like $350K, and then Cam Munster was out for most of the year, and and he was just averaging $60, $70, or whatever it is, until Munster came back.
00:50:37
Tackles and Tinnies
crazy yeah
00:50:45
Chris
So, no, he was really good. He did an absolute job. But just I just feel like... when he's the seven and I just feel like it's Munster's team. You know, it was just what what really just since since Hughes has gone down, what's really taken me back was just how frequently he's now touching the ball.
00:51:03
Tackles and Tinnies
Munster. Yeah.
00:51:03
Chris
modern stuff Like whether he's running it, you know, he takes all the fifth tackle kick options.
00:51:08
Chris
He's kicking it to Xavier Coates, which is pretty much a tri assist cheat code and automatic 12 points.
00:51:12
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah.
00:51:13
Chris
yeah uh and and as a result i think wishy just doesn't touch the ball as much you know and so but i mean he did score that good try last week which is pretty cool yeah i actually really like that that was that was sweet yeah
00:51:22
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah.
00:51:25
Tackles and Tinnies
Do you yeah talk about storm and x Xavier coach? Do you have love for him at all? Like a Herbie farm worth to Xavier coach?
00:51:33
Chris
oh Nah, I just think their draw is really, really hard. What is it? It's Penrith Bulldogs, Roosters, and then Broncos.
00:51:45
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah, it's pretty tough, eh?
00:51:45
Chris
Like, yeah.
00:51:47
Chris
And then here's the other thing. Like, he's he's one of, like, he's one of Craig's favourites. Like, he he got rested a few times, you know, after every single origin because they worry about his hamstring and,
00:51:51
Tackles and Tinnies
Hmm.
00:51:56
Chris
And if you remember that one time, was it against the Tigers? When, like, they absolutely demolished the Tigers and Papi went and, sorry, yeah, Papi went for, like, was 189 or whatever it is? Like, didn't, like, yeah, I think Xavier Coates scored, like, 140 and he, like, he went up early.
00:52:06
Tackles and Tinnies
Hmm.
00:52:10
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah, popped off too, that left wing.
00:52:11
Chris
Yeah, like, he went early.
00:52:11
Tackles and Tinnies
I don't think he scored, man.
00:52:12
Chris
Like, I don't, what was it?
00:52:13
Tackles and Tinnies
i think he got one try. Hmm.
00:52:16
Chris
Like, there's there's a round where he scored 140 and he's, like, gone to the bench early and I was, like, I've never seen this as, like,
00:52:16
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah.
00:52:23
Chris
as a winger, going off early, you know, hitting you know hitting the showers early.
00:52:24
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah.
00:52:26
Chris
So I was just like, nah, this guy's at rotation risk for sure, really.
00:52:30
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah. an aspect
00:52:30
Chris
But really, it's just the fact that he's very rocks and diamonds-y, you know, and and I think there's better rocks and diamonds players, you know, to take a chance on with more favourable draws where could go big.
00:52:34
Tackles and Tinnies
yeah
00:52:39
Chris
Yeah.
00:52:41
Tackles and Tinnies
All Chris, let's ah talk about captaincy options. So I'll quickly run through the players of interest along with their teams. So Panthers, Melbourne, so you obviously got a Cleary or a Munster.
00:52:55
Tackles and Tinnies
Warriors, Dragons, probably haven't really got anyone too desirable there.
Captaincy Choices and Community Engagement
00:52:59
Tackles and Tinnies
you can maybe potentially a VC on Gutho or potentially...
00:53:04
Chris
That's ridiculous.
00:53:05
Tackles and Tinnies
Just had to say it.
00:53:06
Chris
You didn't even hear it yourself.
00:53:07
Tackles and Tinnies
Just had to say it.
00:53:08
Chris
it
00:53:08
Tackles and Tinnies
And then we have the Roosters. got your Sammy Walker, Tedesco against your Bulldogs. Probably not anyone too relevant in the Bulldogs, to be honest. Sharky's tight, and so you've got your Nico Hines and tight, you've Jaden Campbell.
00:53:23
Tackles and Tinnies
Broncos, you've got Reece Walsh there against the Dolphins. Probably no one there. Trade hammer. South Sydney versus Parramatta. So Latrell Mitchell's still at center, so probably not liking anyone there.
00:53:36
Tackles and Tinnies
Mitchell Moses hasn't been doing too much.
00:53:36
Chris
Thank you.
00:53:37
Tackles and Tinnies
Zach Lomax has been an absolute disappointment for the past two weeks. don't know people have been captaining him. West Tigers, Manly, so you probably like your Terrell May. Maybe Adam Dewey, Smokey.
00:53:48
Tackles and Tinnies
Manly, obviously got Turbo there as well. And North Queensland, Drinkwater's always an option there. Tom Dearden's obviously proven that he can pop off and newcastle I just would not be touching them with a 10-foot pole.
00:54:00
Tackles and Tinnies
Going off those players, or might have missed a couple there in matchups, Chris, who are you thinking and why?
00:54:07
Chris
i think you've done a really good job in terms of like pretty much identifying everybody who might be worthwhile happening really the the tasty the tasty matchups this way go sharks versus titans and yeah that's the most tasty match up really to honest i think i think that nico is a really good vc option option ah just don't think you ah just i just can't i think we were just disappointed by number of times with captain need to spend shit right you and i i think of this gunot
00:54:38
Tackles and Tinnies
I can't do it. Even against the Titans, bro, I can't do it. I just did swap them in just in case I do a last-minute VC, but, yeah, I just can't do it, man. He's just burnt me so many times. And I think he's just an 80-point player.
00:54:55
Tackles and Tinnies
There's nothing wrong with it. That's a good player. But I think he's just lost the upside of 120. sigh
00:55:00
Chris
yeah yeah one play that i'm thinking about actually be saying and probably will be same he's actually just teddy because the fact they just come off a hundred eighty nine and i think you've got to put some respect on that and had a look back at these past scores in the last three years and i found when he scores a century they often come in pair so after scores one he'll score a subsequent twenty a century i think there's he's even had a few ways he's actually just scored free in a row um i was like mostly last year when you know him and manu and
00:55:30
Chris
yeah sorry just yeah joey manu
00:55:33
Tackles and Tinnies
Jory Monon.
00:55:33
Chris
everybody with a wall going off
00:55:33
Tackles and Tinnies
Yep.
00:55:35
Chris
you know that whole backline and also angus cried and i think that he might be i think he might be the best vc
00:55:42
Tackles and Tinnies
Even against the Dogs, because I'm looking at his score now from round 16 in 2024, he 84 points. Dogs 2025, he 70 points. And then round eleven against the Dogs in twenty twenty five you got seventy points
00:55:56
Chris
ye well
00:55:57
Tackles and Tinnies
and dogs are better this year
00:55:59
Chris
yeah well basically well this like i' just basing on it's just more of a vibe more than anything and just based on the numbers in the past
00:56:05
Tackles and Tinnies
yeah
00:56:08
Chris
likeke a like like i mean last week it didn't matter to me because he wasn't even on my radar to to
00:56:14
Tackles and Tinnies
Yep.
00:56:14
Chris
as
00:56:15
Tackles and Tinnies
Agreed.
00:56:15
Chris
as as an armand option
00:56:15
Tackles and Tinnies
Yep.
00:56:17
Chris
really it's just that if if i they if if you vc nico right because you nobody's brave enough to to to see him then you're kind of stuck really with afterwards you're stuck with pain heart lomax turbo turbo is actually not a bad captain against ah ah against the topic is so long as' not raining and and in drinking that's un date and both from them and no-go so so therefore i think that
00:56:41
Tackles and Tinnies
yeah
00:56:43
Chris
you know like nobody looks really good if you if you if you if you if you vc nico
00:56:50
Tackles and Tinnies
Yep.
00:56:50
Chris
as well that that's one i'm kind of thinking about like so therefore and know <unk>t know yeah you what are you doing what are you doing
00:56:58
Tackles and Tinnies
Mate, I'll tell you what. Nico's done.
00:57:02
Chris
yeah
00:57:02
Tackles and Tinnies
He's out. I'm actually going to Recy Walsh against the Finns as the VC. I like that matchup. suncorp I think he's just going to be red hot.
00:57:12
Tackles and Tinnies
I think it's meant to be pretty dry in Brisbane as well, which is good. And then I'm actually going to see on Tom Trubojevic.
00:57:21
Chris
okay
00:57:21
Tackles and Tinnies
I'm doing it. I think he's ready. I think it's time. Desirable matchup against the West Tigers. Yeah. Burnt too many times with Nico. Jaden Campbell burnt me last week. Well, almost burnt me. Lucky I didn't.
00:57:34
Tackles and Tinnies
I did the VC loop. I think that's it. and And I'm just worried about the Bulldogs, man. Like I gave the Warriors a lot of credit last week in regards to i think are they're going to be competitive. I think the Bulldogs might struggle here.
00:57:48
Tackles and Tinnies
And they just absolutely blew them out of the park. And I feel like they're gonna do the exact same thing to the Brewsters.
00:57:57
Chris
five yeah we we'll get in well what i'll probably do this week as i said earlier i'll probably trade drinky to turbo
00:58:02
Tackles and Tinnies
Yep.
00:58:04
Chris
but back on the turbo train
00:58:04
Tackles and Tinnies
Jump on, mate. Come with me.
00:58:07
Chris
the third time this year da and then but yeah v vc yeah vc nico and we'll see we'll see turbo yeah
00:58:17
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah, get on with me, mate. Let's let's ride it together on the turbo train.
00:58:20
Chris
yeah
00:58:22
Tackles and Tinnies
I like it. All right, Chris, I think that's been very insightful. Thank you for the therapy session about Tamare Martin and reminding me about my poor trade decision with the day for feeder one in draft.
00:58:35
Tackles and Tinnies
But tackles and tinnies, it's been a vibe. Round 24, head-to-head final or head-to-head semifinals are here officially. Obviously, we want you guys winning and I hope our advice, particularly the vice captains and the captaincy options, I think that's what's differentiating a lot of people now. Like, that's literally got to be the make or break. So...
00:58:56
Tackles and Tinnies
Best of luck with that. Obviously, you know where to find us. We're on all listening platforms and all social media platforms. The engagement has been picking up, which is really, really good. We want to hear about your trades and discussion points too.
00:59:10
Tackles and Tinnies
Some slander about the Gold Coast times when I said Jaden Campbell last week the contract negotiations and the referee situation. That was interesting reads on TikTok.
00:59:20
Tackles and Tinnies
But yeah, we love to read it, guys. So again, the more engagement, the better for us. And yeah, as a school teacher, i ah I love reading everything. So yeah, send on through. Chris, any last words, mate?
00:59:31
Chris
nah not really turbo train chihu
00:59:34
Tackles and Tinnies
All aboard. Choo-choo. Thanks, Tackles and Tinnies. Enjoy your week.