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Tackles and Tinnies - Finals W2 - E21: 🎙️ Fantasy Files Ep. 21 – Lessons from the GOAT, Finals Fever & Walsh vs Hayne Debate 🏉🔥
20 Plays3 months ago
The boys are back with a blockbuster ep — Ryan, Chris, and Adam (who officially finished 3rd in Australia 👑).
💬 Q&A with Adam:
– What worked, what didn’t, and the PODs that carried him home
– How much is a trade really worth?
– Do you trade hard early or stay conservative?
– The role of cash gen & when to pull the trigger on injured guns
⚔️ 2026 SuperCoach Chat:
– Must-buy players for next year
– Will we get Latrell and Turbo at CTW?
– Is it set-and-forget Payne Haas and Terrell May?
– The big hope: a flood of cheapies 💰
📋 Finals Week 2 Team Lists:
– Sharks vs Raiders: no changes from last week
– Panthers vs Bulldogs:
– Panthers: possibly getting Kenny back
– Bulldogs: Crichton on extended bench, Sexton to halfback, Xerri back to centre with Burton, Kikau named, Galvin into 5/8, Reed returns on the bench, Connor Tracey likely back to FLB if Crichton doesn’t play
– Verdict? The boys reckon the Bulldogs are cooked
Ryan’s dreaming of a storybook Broncos vs Panthers preliminary final (2023 GF rematch) if Penrith get through.
📊 SuperCoach Finals Week 1 Wrap:
– Ryan & Chris flex over Adam (finally beating him)
– Each position broken down, and yes, Ryan STILL refuses to put in Nicho Hynes (the Nico saga lives on).
🔥 Fan Question from Noah on TikTok:
“How was the Broncos game! Can they win it? Is Reece Walsh going to carry them there?”
– The boys compare Walsh’s purple patch to Turbo, Ben Barba, and even Jarryd Hayne 2009.
– Ryan says Walsh is on par already, Chris & Adam say he needs a grand final win to eclipse them.
It’s lessons, bold calls, and banter at its peak — you don’t want to miss this one.
🎧 Listen now: https://linktr.ee/tacklesandtinnies
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Transcript
The Coke Spill Incident
00:00:03
Tackles and Tinnies
Oh, shoot. i just literally got coke all over my toilet on screen.
00:00:04
Adam
Thank you.
00:00:07
Tackles and Tinnies
Too much fresh crack in the tin.
00:00:08
Chris
believe
00:00:09
Tackles and Tinnies
Boys, welcome back.
Supercoach Finals Week 2 Announcement
00:00:12
Tackles and Tinnies
Finals week two. More importantly, we got Chris and we got Adam here.
Chris' Supercoach Performance Review
00:00:16
Tackles and Tinnies
But before we glaze Adam for his our fantastic finish in the regular season, Chris, how did you are go last week in Supercoach for the finals week one?
00:00:25
Chris
Yeah, not too bad actually, right? I scored thousand and one updates were kind to me and think I'm ranked like 2.2 K. It seems like finals is actually harder than overall.
00:00:38
Chris
Yeah, no, I got my triple captain correct, Reece Walsh. Yeah, so that was what boosted me up and got me a good score this week.
00:00:44
Tackles and Tinnies
Yep.
Chris' Strategic Player Moves
00:00:46
Tackles and Tinnies
Would you, were you happy with all your selections or would you have any last minute regrets when ah ah the game started?
00:00:52
Chris
Nah, I didn't. After last week, I said, oh, going go Aaron Clark. But, you know, I thought to myself, you know, when it was sighted, pissing down with the rain, you know, in New Zealand. I said, oh, he's probably not a good buy. He could, you know, no offload. So i switched him to Hudson Young, which was kind of good because I think Eric Clark didn't play very much. I think he played about 40 to 45 minutes instead.
00:01:13
Tackles and Tinnies
Now,
00:01:14
Chris
And yeah, but other than that, and then I went, I went ah ah took the
Adam Joins the Discussion
00:01:18
Chris
C off Cleary. I was going to go see on Cleary just because it was raining so much. but And then I put the C on, oh, the VC on Teddy instead, but didn't really make much of a change at all.
00:01:28
Chris
Yeah. But to now they weren't huge, massive changes for me.
00:01:32
Tackles and Tinnies
yeah
00:01:32
Chris
Yeah.
00:01:33
Tackles and Tinnies
now Adam, our beloved Adam. We've been glazing on the podcast for the past couple of weeks and Chris and I and the group chat have been pestering him to jump on to the pod. But thank you. You're finally here and it's been long awaited. Now, Adam, give us the rundown, mate, for the regular season of Classic.
00:01:51
Tackles and Tinnies
How did you go?
Adam's Supercoach Success Story
00:01:53
Tackles and Tinnies
How you feeling? Give me the full spiel.
00:01:57
Adam
Yeah, feeling good, man. Finished third overall, which is pretty crazy. Had a good year. Yeah. I mean, you know, was at the top for most of the season and, you know, sort of sitting at 10th, 12th, 15th.
00:02:11
Adam
But, yeah, just kind of had a good, strong couple of last couple of weeks and got a bit lucky with a few things, definitely, to say the least. Won a fair bit of cash, which was good, just from some overall groups and things, which was amazing. um was tight on the last day. Like, it was basically – I was up by 25 points on another guy in all the big cash leagues, and he had horse to come.
00:02:38
Adam
And i was basically like, if horse scored over 25, would have lost. And then horse barely played, scored basically exactly 25. So we're tired heading into updates. And so I was like stressing.
00:02:50
Adam
It's like refreshing the app, like waiting for updates. And yeah, I ended up winning that by about 40. So yeah was I was thrilled, man.
00:02:57
Tackles and Tinnies
Unreal.
00:02:59
Adam
Odium finished.
00:02:59
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah.
00:03:01
Chris
How much richer are you for playing Supercoach 2025 this season, Adam?
00:03:02
Tackles and Tinnies
Congratulations.
00:03:06
Adam
Uh, it came out to about 12 K in the end. So pretty big payout.
00:03:11
Chris
Not bad.
00:03:12
Adam
yeah, it's probably, I'm probably at about a dollar an hour of time spent on super coach, which is good.
00:03:13
Chris
for
00:03:18
Adam
michel Michelle was glad all all my time finally, you know, paid off. so yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:03:22
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah, good investment.
00:03:25
Adam
And, big shout out to my boy Finney winning the 50 K, which is insane. he had a really strong day, uh, strong weekend and strong team all year. So that was sick.
00:03:36
Adam
So yeah, big year, very big year.
00:03:37
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah. And that's you're obviously your best finish overall ever, correct?
00:03:43
Adam
Yeah, definitely, by far. Like I've been, there's been four different seasons where I've been 10 at some stage. But usually what happens is I'll just take really big swings the last five, six, seven weeks, like going for first.
00:03:58
Adam
And then I'll, usually that won't work right and I'll fall way back. I finished like hundred and fiftieth three hundred you know Because I'm kind of like, I don't care about finishing 25th. I'd rather finish first or 200th, you know.
00:04:09
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah.
00:04:10
Adam
you never know how many chances you're going to have being right near the top. And it was just hot so happened that this year those swings came off. Like, I had Mulatalo, who I brought in, and he averaged like 95 over the last six weeks, something ridiculous.
00:04:25
Adam
even brought in Shibasaki with my last trade, and he went like... 75 and then 110 or something, which is crazy.
00:04:31
Tackles and Tinnies
yeah
00:04:32
Adam
i had Lehigh who averaged like 95 over the last like three weeks or something. So all these guys that almost no one else owned put up 90 averages for me to carry me home, which was awesome.
00:04:44
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah.
00:04:45
Adam
But that's fluky too. You know, you can't expect that every time.
00:04:50
Tackles and Tinnies
And how did you go managing trades throughout the season?
00:04:51
Adam
Yeah.
00:04:54
Tackles and Tinnies
Because Chris and I were elaborating last week about impulse control, probably more so myself, as you know, trying to win me away from these super pods.
00:05:04
Tackles and Tinnies
We could probably say generously. What's your strategy with trades at the start of the year, sort of mid-year, origin time, and then obviously going for that, as you said, home run swing for the top place?
00:05:18
Adam
Yeah, look, it's pretty simple. i just trade hard and then try to be selective later in the year, especially. i think there's too many trades. Like i've said boys before, like I've been playing Supercoach for like 10 years and we used to have like 28 trades and no boosts.
00:05:32
Adam
And you'd have to get through a whole season with that and you just couldn't bring in guys for a price rise and then trade them straight back out. now that we've got almost 50 trades, like you can be a bit more aggressive, especially early season.
00:05:45
Adam
And you used to need, like there was no best 13 on the buys. So you used to need to have a lot of players for the buys too. It was a very different game. So yeah, i just go hard. Like I use a lot of trades early, just fixing my team.
00:05:58
Adam
Pretty funny. I had to look back at my starting team and it was not very good. Like I made a lot of mistakes and it just shows you don't need to be perfect to start, but you do need to be quick with fixing those mistakes.
00:06:11
Adam
So, like, I started with Duffy instead of Cleary, which is obviously a terrible decision.
00:06:14
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah.
00:06:15
Adam
ah ah started with Walsh instead of Eongi, and Eongi averaged the same for, like, 500k less, and Walsh lost 100k.
00:06:15
Tackles and Tinnies
Quite the last.
00:06:23
Adam
started with Bateman, who was not very good. i didn't start with Haas. I started with Grant, who wasn't very good early. ah ah started with Hetherington. I started with Safearth.
00:06:34
Adam
I made a lot of mistakes, but I just fixed them really quickly. Like I traded a bunch of these guys out very early and got in your Haases and your Clearies and your, you know, I didn't start with Tino.
00:06:46
Adam
I got him in quickly. So you don't have to start strong.
00:06:47
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah.
00:06:50
Adam
You need to fix things quickly. That's always my philosophy anyway.
00:06:53
Tackles and Tinnies
yeah
00:06:54
Adam
And then end of the year, it was very much just don't use the trade unless I absolutely have to. and so I kept below Matangi, And luckily he came back at the end. you know, I kept husking, tried not to use trades that I didn't absolutely need to. I tried to keep my trades for the big positions, you know, for fullbacks, I could jump on Wolf and those sorts of things, which worked out well in the end. um held guys like Naf White, you know, who were kind of plotters, but I was like, I'd rather hold them than look them for a slight upgrade when it's not a key position.
00:07:30
Tackles and Tinnies
Yep.
00:07:31
Adam
So yeah, trades is a tricky one. there were so many injuries this year, it was hard. a lot of people were the same as you guys were. Had so many injuries, you just had to trade and then you got no trades left and what can you do?
00:07:41
Tackles and Tinnies
Yep. Now ah ah going onto that for next season, Do you think due to all the injuries and more engagement with Supercoach now with the finals, they're probably going to look at potentially maybe a couple more trades in?
00:07:56
Tackles and Tinnies
do you think that's but possible for next year? Again, they're all about getting engagement and getting more people with trades, more people going on the app, which means more sponsorship, which means more money, maybe for yourself. What are your thoughts there?
00:08:12
Adam
oh it's definitely possible i really hope not like i still think 46 is too many as it is and you're right i mean they want engagement they want clicks that's what the game is for is to to make the money so there's every chance that we roll into next year with 50 trades despite all the crazy injuries, I still think most people had 18 every week.
00:08:33
Adam
I don't think many people were like playing with 14 or 13 or 15 any week. So I think it's okay. And, you know, we were sitting there halfway through the season and being like, this great. We have so many trades. Our team values are all ridiculous.
00:08:47
Adam
If we didn't have injuries, it would have been boring at the end because everyone would have just had all the best players.
00:08:52
Tackles and Tinnies
ye
00:08:52
Adam
You know, everyone would have had Lucas. Everyone would have had KK. Everyone would have had Herbie. Maybe not Chris. Yeah. Everyone else would have had Herbie, you know, and there wouldn't have been a lot of variety. Whereas in the end, the injuries kind of forced that.
00:09:05
Adam
And I mean, the injury to Reynolds was the biggest injury of the year. Like that turned Walsh into 150 a week and that, that changed whole landscape. So I hope they don't change it too much. But, you know, we'll see.
00:09:19
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah. Chris, you got anything for Adam before I got my next question?
00:09:24
Chris
Yeah, look, no, a lot of what you've said so far really resonates, actually, Adam. You know, for example, you know, you talking about, you know, you started with a team that, you know, probably wasn't so good, but in many ways it was quite, in and in many ways you could almost argue was quite vanilla because there were a lot of players that, you know, that were quite popular, you know, like Alex Safarff.
00:09:44
Chris
you know and And I think it is important in many ways to start with one of these vanilla teams you know and just rectify them quickly if you are seeing mistakes. I'm playing Fantasy Premier League this season again, and I started with a pretty vanilla team.
00:09:59
Chris
And the problem is that I haven't changed anything, and I'm not doing so great four weeks in. And another mate of mine who finish finishes top 10K every year, he's simply just played his wild card and he's just moving up the ranks straight away.
00:10:11
Chris
It's one of those things I regret. And you're right in terms of starting with sometimes with half-gun and kind of cheapy halfbacks and fullbacks. I think one of the mistakes I made like you this year was I did also get Tom Duffy.
00:10:25
Chris
And I think next season i'm going to start with two gun halfbacks and two gun fullbacks only. Like literally no cheapies in these two positions unless they prove themselves. And then I'm only going to jump on them like in round three for the price rise.
00:10:38
Chris
Even like Iongi, I feel like we got lucky this year. that he went off. I think in many ways you were better off just leaving him. And if he went big and you had to jump on him, then you go on him in round three.
00:10:52
Adam
Yeah, that's interesting. That was my plan. That's why I started with Walsh. I was like, I'm going to squeeze Walsh in or run Turbo Pong on Walsh. And then if Iongi is just like a must, I'll downgrade one of them and then I've got 500k to spend.
00:11:03
Adam
But in the end, too much other shit was happening that I didn't actually have the trades available. And Walsh just kept going down. Yeah.
00:11:12
Chris
Yeah. And another thing i noticed that you kind of alluded to, you know, talking about, you know, holding on to Naf wide and, and Hosking, realized perhaps sometimes we don't have to be so tricker happy with the trades.
00:11:23
Chris
Like, I mean, i had to hold on to Jermaine Asako just, just because had no trades to trade him out. And in the end he scored in the final, I know he was absolutely trash for most of the season, and you know, because of the Finns never passing right. But in the final, in the final round, he scored 110 for Ryan and myself.
00:11:40
Chris
And I feel like that was all totally worth it in the end.
00:11:40
Tackles and Tinnies
ye
00:11:44
Adam
Yeah, definitely.
00:11:44
Tackles and Tinnies
Now, Adam,
00:11:48
Tackles and Tinnies
since you're the the master, the sensei, and we're your young Padawans, I feel like young Obi-Wan Kenobi trying to learn from the sensei. Now,
00:11:58
Adam
and look like Obi-Wan Kenobi too, with that beard.
00:12:01
Tackles and Tinnies
weve in with injuries, the Hosking thing resonates with me really well because I had Hosking at the very start and he was doing well and then he got injured and then long behold, he What's his name?
00:12:15
Tackles and Tinnies
Nichols, Scott.
00:12:16
Chris
Maddie Nicholson.
00:12:16
Tackles and Tinnies
and He got the spot and then he got injured. Then Hosking is back in. What I'm trying to get at is how long would you hold an injury for a player who has like that 70 round average upside?
00:12:31
Adam
You mean like Hossine the first time?
00:12:34
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah. So like, for example, Hosking was averaging like 55, 60 points, whatever it was at the very start.
00:12:38
Adam
Yeah.
00:12:39
Tackles and Tinnies
Oskin gets injured for, let's say, six weeks.
00:12:39
Adam
Yeah.
00:12:42
Tackles and Tinnies
Would you trade hard just to get him out? Let's say it's like halfway through the season. Or if you know he's a guy that he could be like a 2RF, 4 or 5, would you just hold him for depth?
00:12:58
Adam
Nah, sell straight away.
00:12:59
Chris
Thank you.
00:13:00
Adam
If it's... Yeah, early season, you just have to, I think. Mid-season, it gets more interesting. Like, an interesting one was Karaz, right? Like, everyone jumped on him, he was killing it, and then he gets this calf injury.
00:13:08
Tackles and Tinnies
Hmm.
00:13:11
Adam
And everyone's like, well, he's going to be out for four weeks, then they've got a bye, and then they've got, you know, he might not be back for six weeks because of that. So everyone jumped off him, and two weeks later, he's back.
00:13:22
Adam
You know, and then everyone's like, oh, now this 700k guy, how are we going to fit him in? And he's like a top of position, genuine gun where it's like during the buy rounds, you only need 13 some weeks.
00:13:22
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah.
00:13:33
Adam
We probably should have just considered holding him and saving the trade. Like I traded to Molotalo who scored 30 in the buy round, then got suspended and came back and scored 40. And Karaz was backed by that third week scoring 90. And so i was down 50 points and a trade and team value.
00:13:50
Adam
A guy like Hosking, who's like best case bench to RF, that you're not going to want to play every week, you've got to move on from those guys quickly if they get injured.
00:14:01
Adam
Probably better example is Dylan Lucas. So he got injured after round two and I had him and I just moved him straight away. i was like, a hamstring. i don't want to deal with this.
00:14:12
Adam
And so I just kept churning through those spots to make money and get points and all of that. But I do know someone that just held Lucas for five weeks, just let him sit on the bench and then saved a to trade and did other things with their trades. And that was actually quite beneficial too.
00:14:27
Adam
The hard thing early season is that, and I always talk about this, you need to get as much money into your A team as possible because that's the time when not everyone has strong teams. And so if you had...
00:14:39
Adam
gun that gets injured in week one week one and they're going to be out five weeks like your team's going to be so much worse than everyone else for that next five weeks that i don't think it's worth holding end of the year someone gets injured for four weeks who cares you've got three other guys you can play instead it doesn't matter so i wouldn't like a guy like osking you would just never hold if you got injured unless it's a top top top tier gun that you think like is worth saving the trades
00:14:59
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah.
00:15:05
Chris
Yeah, I think I've come to a similar conclusion as you, Adam, really, in terms of, hey, if it's early season, anybody with big money, you've just got to move them on, especially they're out for more than three or four weeks.
00:15:05
Tackles and Tinnies
Okay.
00:15:15
Chris
And then if it kind of comes to that mid-season or even end of season, trying to pay the trade and they're not out for, you know, long-term and it's not a serious injury, you can you can conceivably just leave them there and then wait them to come back, really, because of that of that but potential for them to come back just more earlier than they normally would, you know, with Kira, as you kind of pointed out earlier.
00:15:35
Tackles and Tinnies
Now, this a good hypothetical here would have been Herbie Farmworth. Let's say he was projected to come back around 27, 100%. This is a theoretical world.
00:15:48
Tackles and Tinnies
If you knew he was out for six weeks and you had minimal trades left, but he's a guy who has $900,000 to his name, do you hold a guy like Herbie Farmworth when the trades are low?
00:16:01
Tackles and Tinnies
for like a six-week period because you go from Herbie Farmworth and get anyone with Herbie Farmworth's money?
00:16:06
Chris
Thank you.
00:16:07
Tackles and Tinnies
Or do you know he could be a super pod for those last two to three rounds or last round, for example?
00:16:14
Adam
it really depends who you're buying and what you can do with that money, right? So if you're like, I've got one trade left, then you can only get one player for him and the is irrelevant at that point, which is something that I know you spoke about a couple of weeks ago, like you don't want to end the season with money wasted on the bench and no trades, right?
00:16:25
Tackles and Tinnies
Hmm.
00:16:35
Adam
If it's like, oh, you know, if I trade Herbie, I can get a gun center a wing that I don't have that's hurting me, like no one need to waste and I can also upgrade you know someone to Haas, right?
00:16:46
Adam
Then it's like, okay, well, you probably have to do it. like You're getting two guns instead of six weeks of zero.
00:16:52
Adam
The thing with Herbie was that there wasn't, other than Nwonga Ndwase, there wasn't a lot of guns that looked like must-haves, and even he didn't look like a must-have. A lot had to go his way to get all those big points.
00:17:04
Adam
like you know The center wings did well. like Ronaldo was the best one, and who was looking at him going, yeah, he's must-have, right?
00:17:09
Tackles and Tinnies
yeah
00:17:10
Adam
So if if you like didn't have Lomax, which is my situation exactly, I didn't have Lomax, Ferby did his hamstring, I was like, well, that's an easy move, so I did it. If you had all the big guns, it would have been worth considering holding, I think.
00:17:24
Adam
It's kind of the same with Kalomitangi for me. Like, I had Pass and I had Corral. I had Eli Katonga and I had Tino and I was like, well, who am I going to trade him to? Like, who's going to move the needle for me?
00:17:35
Adam
Hudson was the only one I considered and I was like, they've got to buy in round 25 24 or whatever it was. And he might rest around 27. So that's why I held him, for example.
00:17:47
Adam
It's really dependent on your team and who you need to buy in their place. If there's no one that's a must, you can definitely consider holding.
00:17:53
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah. I think my final couple of questions is to do with Nuffs, okay? I know you were paying out my boy Lawson, but he ended up being a Nuff and he was a hero at one stage, but yes, he he was Nuff.
00:18:04
Adam
I love enough.
00:18:08
Tackles and Tinnies
So let's talk Nuffs in regards to start a season and obviously after the origin period trying to get your best 18, getting that final couple of Nuffs in there to ah ah maximise cash.
00:18:24
Adam
Yeah, i almost always start with one enough, sometimes too If I start with two, I usually want one of them to be a guy that I think will get a run later. And there's been a few examples of that over the years where like Iroh was won a couple of years ago.
00:18:36
Tackles and Tinnies
Thank you.
00:18:38
Adam
And I think Galvin was another one where they were really highly rated and you knew they'd get a run at some point. And so you can just stash them there. You probably don't want two genuine nuffs to start the year.
00:18:49
Adam
But I like having a genuine nuff, A, so I can loop. Because if everyone's playing, you can't loop. and also just to get more money in my 18, you know, get a cheap guy that can sit there all year. It saves a trade by having them already.
00:19:02
Adam
so I'm a really big fan of starting with enough. only circumstance I wouldn't is if there was just genuinely that many good cheapies that I'm like, I'm going to miss out here. Whereas like this year, for example, like I had no interest in a Royce hunt cause it's like, you know, I'm spending an extra 50 K on that spot to get Royce hunt.
00:19:14
Tackles and Tinnies
it
00:19:19
Adam
Even if he makes 50
00:19:21
Adam
I then need to use a trade to get that under K back out. I'd rather have the 50 K in pocket and save the trade and then have a guy to loop with, you know? so yeah, I pretty much always start with one.
00:19:33
Adam
And then in terms of bringing a second or a third, this one, you need the money when there's no other cheapies, you get a dual position guy. i mean, Kane Bradley was the guy that a lot of us got this year. And, that was a bit of a rollercoaster.
00:19:46
Adam
always praying it wasn't going to get named or praying he'd drop out or you know and then there was the two key simpkins debacle where came in and ruined my a you know that's why i love my boy kalani going because he was nowhere near the first grade side so yeah definitely a big fan of enoughs more so than you i know but hopefully i can get you on enough bandwagon next year
00:19:55
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah.
00:20:06
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah. Well, the reason I say this because I reflect back, it might've been, actually might've round one. You got the nothing in and I was asking the question earlier, And then I got Lazarus Vilepu in.
00:20:18
Tackles and Tinnies
And then he was getting like 10 minutes, 15 minutes a game. And it was just an AE nightmare. And I made no cash. Like, I actually think lost cash on this guy.
00:20:25
Adam
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
00:20:26
Tackles and Tinnies
So it was a free trade at start, but obviously trading him out and then losing cash.
00:20:27
Adam
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00:20:32
Tackles and Tinnies
Trades like this, I think, for the impulse traders like myself, the cheapies who aren't getting a role, i think it's just so important. Chris, I've got a question that will lead sort into next season. You got anything else regarding this season?
00:20:48
Chris
Yeah, um I'll just tell you my little story on not nothing or nothing. you know, it involves Royce Hunt as well, you know, like, yeah, no, last year I, like, struggled to a bit to make cash, and so this season I did make, like, a concerted effort to, like, ensure, like, every seat every player on my team was actually scoring, and obviously, you know, just being convinced by, like, you, Ryan, that, you know, every player should be scoring and making max money, so, yeah, I started Royce Hunt as well at 249k, and
00:21:04
Adam
Thank
00:21:18
Chris
Look, instantly knew I made the wrong choice when he came off the bench in like round one. He scored something like 21 points. And I was like, mate, we need to get him out.
00:21:26
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah.
00:21:26
Chris
And I bought Hamish Stewart at like 198k. And was really good. But I had a look back at my season. And it turns out like I never managed to play Hamish Stewart when he had his few good scores.
00:21:37
Chris
Like he scored like a 79 against the Tigers round nine and a 74 against the Broncos in round 11.
00:21:40
Adam
right.
00:21:44
Chris
And the one time I actually kept him was for the second major buy. And then Coach Stuart Flanagan benched him for the whole first half. And he scored 19.
00:21:56
Chris
And when I finally sold him, he was like... He was like $420k. So I made like two hundred k profit. But really, he was just the plot on my team for the first 16 rounds. It was such a waste of two trades. And the same thing as Turbo.
00:22:07
Chris
Next year, I'm just going to start with him so that I can save a trade when I sell him out, you know, as opposed to buying him in and and selling him out afterwards, really.
00:22:11
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah.
00:22:14
Tackles and Tinnies
But where do you put him, mate?
00:22:14
Chris
But like, of yeah.
00:22:15
Tackles and Tinnies
Center wing or fullback? That's the real question.
00:22:18
Chris
But like, Adam, i have a question as well for you in terms of, I guess, trading or playing through the major buy rounds, you know, there's obviously two ways to play these major buy rounds. Like, either one, you know, you just focus on fielding, like, 13 really good players with no plotters, or, like, two, like, what I've said to you before, the throw shit on the wall and see what sticks approach, is which is where you try to get, like, 15 or 16 players, and you just hope, like, 13 of them will go massive.
00:22:46
Chris
Like, do you... have a recommendation or have you, do you have like a solid approach as to how, how you think that the major buyers should be played now that only 13 players are needed?
00:22:58
Adam
Yeah, look, historically, I've not been very good at the players. It's something I struggle with too. Even this year, like I kind of went in thinking, okay, I'm going to take some swings and most of them didn't work, especially the first play.
00:23:13
Adam
I think the main thing is just, and I think we've spoken about this in those weeks, is just making sure you've got enough numbers in advance. You don want to be rolling into the week going, okay, if I make three trades, I'll have 13 players.
00:23:25
Adam
Like, you probably want to be in advance being like, okay, I've got 13, I've got 14. And then when the week comes, i can make one, two, three trades if I need to. That's probably the first thing, because if the injuries happen at the wrong time, with HIA suspensions, random origin selections, like, who saw Toya making Queensland?
00:23:42
Adam
You know, that was out of nowhere. And then conversely, Horse and Terrell May didn't get picked.
00:23:44
Tackles and Tinnies
Laura, you want to put my food in the fridge? Sure. I'm going to be the sum the hour.
00:23:49
Adam
So, like, it's pretty... it's pretty important to have good numbers heading in. And then the other thing is just have the key guys. You know, most years there'll be spine player or two that you just have to have through the buys.
00:24:01
Adam
Eddie was a big one this year. You know, else? I mean, Lyons was a guy I thought it was going to be important that wasn't particularly in the end.
00:24:11
Adam
Hughes was big during the buy period, definitely. So you just want to make sure you've got whatever key non-origin guys you need. Yeah, I just say have enough numbers heading in.
00:24:21
Chris
Yeah, that's crazy. I completely forgot about that. I remember it was at like round 15 for major, the the second major buy. Like I think in round 14, a lot of people had, you know, 14, 15, 16. fourteen fifteen sixteen And that that week, I think...
00:24:34
Chris
Keon got injured and then also Lehigh got like an HIA in the second minute or something like that.
00:24:36
Adam
Yeah.
00:24:39
Adam
Yeah.
00:24:40
Chris
And all of a sudden, and that was another major one. I think there was a third one. And all a sudden people went from having like 14 players for that round to 11 and then like, oh, now we need to trade. And in order to try to get those, you know, 13 players again or so.
00:24:48
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah. Yeah.
00:24:51
Adam
Yeah.
00:24:51
Chris
And it was completely crazy.
00:24:51
Adam
And sometimes there's not good players playing those weeks. So then you're sort stuck in a situation. It's like, do I buy someone that's average just because I need a number?
00:24:56
Chris
Yeah. Yeah.
00:24:59
Adam
And then if you don't do that, you're going to fall behind. So that's where guys like Neff White came in really handy for me.
00:25:06
Chris
So really, you don't really have a true recommendation as it doesn't really matter whether you're, you know, really trying to field 13 good ones or, you know, doing a whole bunch of, you know, 15, but rather.
00:25:15
Adam
Oh, yeah, look, definitely, definitely, definitely want the good players.
00:25:16
Chris
Yep.
00:25:18
Adam
Like, there's no point having these plotters that score 18 on the buy round, like, you know, don't know who, but guys that score 30 a week, there's no point having them. You'd rather just not have the 30 points and not have the plotter.
00:25:31
Adam
So I wouldn't be scared to move guys on. i wouldn't keep them just because they play the buy. That's a trap I've fallen into many times. I refuse to keep a player just for the buys. If there's no other reason to hold them, then they go.
00:25:43
Adam
but if there's other reasons to hold them then it's not bad
00:25:48
Tackles and Tinnies
Okay, Adam, my final question for this season, it came back to me. Now, all season, as Chris mentioned as well, I've been channeling my inner money man to a Piloto all year.
00:25:59
Tackles and Tinnies
My goal was not even to get number one in terms of overall all rank. It would be the number one in terms of cash generation. And I was so close. Jake, our fellow co-host, he did quite a good job.
00:26:11
Tackles and Tinnies
But might be the 2IC for the money man. However, now, the question is, because again, I always run out of trades and I always have like, well, this year I had 265,000 in the bank with zero trades, with Deadwood on the on the pine.
00:26:25
Tackles and Tinnies
Last year had like 460,000 in the bank with like three guys on the pine. What I'm trying to get at is, With cash generation and trades, so obviously you get guys to get like a negative 90 BE. I'm like, yep, jumping on.
00:26:42
Tackles and Tinnies
We've got to go for this. And then one week they've got 150. Next week they're getting 20. So these volatile players would be like your Bostock, for example.
00:26:53
Tackles and Tinnies
How much money would you need to make to justify a trade?
00:26:59
Adam
I would probably say it's less early season, but I would probably say hundred and fifty k is a good ballpark for a trade. I think if you make in two weeks quickly as well, if it takes eight weeks, it's useless.
00:27:14
Adam
You make a quick 150K, that's pretty valuable. And then there's also the idea of like, if you sell someone that's going to lose money, you're saving money too. which is important to factor in But I definitely wouldn't be making a trade if I think they're going to make less than 150K if it's purely a cash grab.
00:27:31
Tackles and Tinnies
Yep.
00:27:31
Adam
And I think early season, those are fine. i think you need to do a lot of that. You need to get in your Carapanis, you know, these type of guys where you say, okay, if they score, even if they score 240s, they're making me 120K. And it just gets your team moving in the right direction.
00:27:47
Adam
Later in the season, like where you don't want to fall into that trap is like round nine, round 10, round 11. It's like, it's like At that point, you probably do have better things to do with your trades, like start nothing guys out, getting in real guns, flipping fullbacks, whatever it may be.
00:28:02
Adam
So yeah, 150 is a good number. But it's also important to think about you can make money other ways. And there's been so many times this year where you could have flipped a fullback and made a lot of money, like freed up money firstly, saved money because the guy you trade out went down and made money because the other guy went up.
00:28:20
Adam
those can make bigger swings than cheapies. Gutho was a great example. Like Chris and I chatting about it that day. Gutho was playing the Roosters on, I think it was Anzac Day weekend.
00:28:33
Chris
Round 28, eight
00:28:33
Adam
And we were talking about, do we get, yeah, yeah. Do we get drinky or not? And we were both sitting there I was like, man, I really want to pull the trigger, but I'm just worried because Gutho's been scoring well and drinky hasn't really been doing much.
00:28:47
Adam
And, That move alone would have like drinking went up a ridiculous amount. Gutho went down quite a lot. There a big point swing like that one trade would have been like 250, 300 K difference.
00:29:00
Adam
points and stuff. So you kind of, you can look for other opportunities as well.
00:29:07
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah. Now,
00:29:08
Chris
Yeah, there's a saying that I heard as well in terms of like points are hard to, you can't always get points, but you can always make cash at any point. You can just jump on literally anybody who, you know has a low B, you know, and has a big score, scores at, you know, irregular 100 and, you know, and you can expect them to make a good, you know, 50 100 or if not, if not hundred and fifty k I think the hardest part is just Finding out the correct time to get on them. Sometimes it just happens and you need to make a trade at the same time.
00:29:37
Chris
Or like you go, oh, it'd be great. I'm going to make a trade this week to downgrade someone, but there's no one to downgrade to. And you kind of can't, but you kind of can't, you have to make the other trade that you need in order to make the the other trade that you want.
00:29:49
Chris
And sometimes it can be hard. So I think it's easy in the first you know first couple of weeks where cash cows are very obvious, but you're right, Adam, in the sense that you can always make money. It's just sometimes timing is the hardest part out of the whole thing, if that makes sense.
00:30:04
Tackles and Tinnies
And regarding team structure, now we we sort of briefly talked about origin. Would you be more inclined to get the non-origin players early and then sort of wait to get those origin guns in? Because mainly those guys, let's say the Brisbane Broncos or like Melbourne, so they're going to be pretty heavily favoured around the buy-around period where those actual teams aren't playing, let alone for origin as well.
00:30:33
Tackles and Tinnies
Would you be more inclined at the start of the season to try to get proven guns who aren't Origin eligible early so you don't have to waste like a double trade? Would you recommend that as a sort of strategy for next year?
00:30:46
Tackles and Tinnies
Asking for a friend.
00:30:48
Chris
Bye.
00:30:49
Adam
Not really. Only if they're the best option. So, like, Origin's round 13 or 12 whatever. So, a lot can happen in 11 weeks.
00:30:59
Adam
And if you, like, people will talk about this, like, I'm just going to start with Dylan Brown, I'm going to start with Joe Tarpanae, I'm going to start with, like, whoever, right? If you start with all those guys, great, you get round 11 and you save three trades and you're ranked
00:31:13
Tackles and Tinnies
yeah
00:31:13
Adam
You know, so you need to start with the best options and you figure it out later. so Plus, what if they get injured? What if they get suspended? You can't start with someone because you want them 10 rounds or 11 rounds later.
00:31:25
Adam
I started with Munster this year. I started with Grant this year. You know, Cleary, a lot of people started with, obviously. And you just figure it out down the track. I mean, most of us rushed Haas in. We knew he was going to play Origin.
00:31:37
Adam
You wouldn't go, oh, I'm going to pick Tarpanet and AFB instead because... I don't want to deal with Haas over Origin and then you're 300 points behind and you get there.
00:31:46
Tackles and Tinnies
Yep.
00:31:47
Adam
So obviously if there's a guy like Dylan Brown and you go, yeah, he's great value, you like take him, that's an advantage. But you can't buy plan. Like you need to buy a plan early, but you can't do it 11 rounds in advance and ah you're starting team based on that.
00:32:03
Tackles and Tinnies
Yep. Now, strategy for next year, sort of segueing out of 2025, looking at 2026 projection. And Chris, you can obviously jump in here too, because this will be open forum.
00:32:15
Adam
Thank
00:32:16
Tackles and Tinnies
Now, strategies regarding guns and team structure. So front row, for example, are we universally just going to think with safe trades, I'm just going to get Haas in, I'm going to get Terrell May in, and then I'm just setting for get. They're pretty durable guys, big minute, big impact, probably both playing Origin next year, but will I be sweet for 12 rounds?
00:32:41
Tackles and Tinnies
is What do you think there, Chris? They're going each.
00:32:45
Chris
Yeah, it's, I want to say, yeah, I want to start with these guns. But the problem is that I don't know how much everybody else is priced at. That's the problem. And so it's hard to know, like, as much as I want somebody who's really, really good, if I am going to look for some guns, I'm always going to put them in my halfback and my fullback and my flex position first before I put it in my and my front row forward or my 2R ref.
00:33:11
Chris
You know, a great example was, you know, Terrell Maye. this season, even last season, you know, somebody who's not super expensive, you but ended up being, you know, the second best player, you know, in at front row forward.
00:33:23
Chris
Or even like, you know, Corey Horsborough, who this year was, you know, one of the top front row forwards. It really depends. Like, for example, let's say next season, like let's say Keanu Kinney is, you know, at the moment, I think he's like I think he's about $400,000.
00:33:38
Chris
thousand If he stays at $400,000 for next season and I can get something like him super cheap, then sure, I might have the money for something like a Payne Haas. But if, let's say, every single fullback is $600,000, $700,000, and now I have to get Turbo and Latrell in that centre wing as well, and they're both $700,000,
00:33:59
Chris
you know seven hundred thousand There's just go to be no money at hooker or front row forward, second row forward. And I'm gonna have to do the same thing I always do. Put some absolute mid tier second row forward and pray one of them goes big, you know? Yeah.
00:34:14
Tackles and Tinnies
What do you all thinking, Adam, for that sort of strategy for next year?
00:34:18
Adam
Yeah, interestingly, the last few years, the strategy has been just start big at FRF. A few years ago, it was Haas and IPAP that just popped off basically from the get-go.
00:34:30
Adam
Fanua Blake has had a couple of really big years. And then this year, obviously, just Terrell and Haas would have been the easiest set and forget of your life. I feel like we've also seen that often early season games are more base-heavy and late season games are more attack-heavy.
00:34:46
Adam
So that was definitely a mistake I made starting with Morse, right? Like he scored nine in round two and at the end of the year scored 150 for fun. So I'll definitely want to start Haas and Terrell because I also think, you know, it's easy to say front rows are bad positions so don't invest money in it.
00:35:04
Adam
The alternatives to Terrell and Haas are so bad that they're almost more guaranteed to outscore the cheaper guys than at other positions. you know, Fanua Blake's been pretty average this year. I've owned him and he's scoring like 70 with a try.
00:35:19
Adam
You know, whereas Terrell's getting 80 with no attack. Arpanet has been very frustrating for owners. I didn't own luckily, but you know, scoring 50, playing 50 minutes every second week. And Aaron Clark was good, but was having these cramping issues. And there's just not, then you're going down to like these like u guys that are just like kind of plotting mids, you know, that they're not going to do anything of worth.
00:35:41
Adam
So I definitely want to start with Terrell and Haas next year. Obviously, as Chris said, it depends on other positions. It depends on cheapies. Like if we have three gun FRF cheapies, like sure, I'll just skip one of them.
00:35:52
Adam
But it's usually a position we don't get good cheapies either. They're usually benchplotters and, you know, it's rare that we get a really strong FRF cheapie. And just for next year specifically, there's actually going to be quite a few players underpriced.
00:36:04
Adam
Like, For example, Reid Marnie is going to be starting and playing 80 for the Cowboys and he's been coming off the bench for the dogs. So he might be like 400K. And Dylan Brown played a bunch of games at center and some games off the bench. He's going to be like 500K. And John McKinney, based on his average, will be like 500K.
00:36:22
Adam
I mean, if David Fafita ever comes back, he averaged like 40. He's going to 450K.
00:36:28
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah.
00:36:28
Adam
Cam Murray played one game and scored 20. So he's going to be like maybe five hundred k there's going to be heaps of guys that you can find value just because for whatever reason this year they've been alienated, they've been reduced minutes, out of favor with the coach, injured, and moving to new teams, new situations where they'll be better positioned.
00:36:50
Adam
So I'd be more inclined to spend up there and then save money elsewhere. Stack cheapies and center wing. i think that should be pretty good value next year.
00:37:02
Adam
We'll have to wait and see, obviously. The cheapies are something we're not going to know for a long time.
00:37:05
Tackles and Tinnies
yeah
00:37:07
Chris
Yeah, you convince me. Maybe maybe i will start with Haas and May next season.
00:37:09
Adam
That was easy. you
00:37:12
Tackles and Tinnies
I legitimately think I had Tino Haas May from day one I don't think I traded him out even through injury
00:37:20
Adam
the Well, Tino's a good one.
00:37:22
Tackles and Tinnies
are
00:37:23
Adam
Yeah. Yeah, Tino's a good
00:37:25
Chris
How'd you run out of trades then, Ryan?
00:37:28
Tackles and Tinnies
when you're trading Gutterson like three times mate so
00:37:30
Chris
Ha ha ha.
00:37:33
Adam
Well.
00:37:33
Chris
Yeah, Max Black will be super cheap as well. And so will Tommy Flake, like he comes back as well next season.
00:37:36
Tackles and Tinnies
Yep.
00:37:38
Chris
and
00:37:38
Tackles and Tinnies
True.
00:37:38
Chris
Yeah.
00:37:39
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah, Flagler with the health scare, they'll probably are nerf his price a little bit for sure. Now, want to talk about fullback center wing. So there's going to be a lot of fullbacks that are to have that dual position and it is bloody going to be spicy next year.
00:37:55
Tackles and Tinnies
You mentioned some of those names earlier regarding Turbo. You're going to have Troll Mitt. You're going to have... probably Brimson's going to be in there. You're going to have a Hammer. He's going to be there.
00:38:09
Tackles and Tinnies
There's going lot of proven guys who got that high upside in the center wing position. how are we going to fit them all in, boys? Like that's the issue I'm having. Do we just like absolutely enough out at Hooker again? Like what's the go?
00:38:28
Adam
I think, well, I don't actually know who's going to have Jule. I know they gave it they said Turbo was going to get it for finals. I'll be pretty sceptical if he gets it for full game next year. He played a few games at centre and then went backly back to full-back. He's going to be full-back in pre-season. He's going to be named at full-back in round one. and So I don't think I'll give it to him.
00:38:48
Adam
Even Luttrell, like... He played some games at centre. He's more likely, I think. But if he goes into pre-season and he's the number one and he's picked at one and he's training at one, I think they're just going to keep him fullback only.
00:39:00
Adam
Frimson will probably get it, but he'll probably be playing centre, I would say. So that kind of dampens his appeal anyway. It might not be as much of a problem as we think, trying to fit these guys in. I think there's a decent chance.
00:39:12
Adam
I'll say just fullback only.
00:39:14
Tackles and Tinnies
Because I did notice when I did click on the finals series on Super Coach, Turbo did have the fullback center wing. I'm praying.
00:39:21
Adam
yes
00:39:22
Tackles and Tinnies
Absolutely praying.
00:39:23
Adam
Yeah, they said he'd have it for finals, but they haven't confirmed anything for next year.
00:39:23
Tackles and Tinnies
Yep.
00:39:26
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah,
00:39:27
Adam
So it'll be interesting.
00:39:29
Tackles and Tinnies
obviously Turbo's an out-and-out fullback. Who knows? We know Cherry Evans said he could be 5'8", all we know. But there's also another a falling gun and obviously a new coach, new new lifestyle change for our fallen man, Kalen Ponga.
00:39:45
Tackles and Tinnies
I think he's also going to be dirt cheap next year. And he's ah ah definitely a guy you don't want to be trading in. You want to be getting at the start. Again, with Dylan Brown there, Fletcher Sharp coming back as well. Tell you what, Ponga could even be playing halfback all we know. Yeah, Jaden Campbell 2.0.
00:40:01
Tackles and Tinnies
Is there love for taking a risk on Ponga, Chris? Yeah.
00:40:06
Chris
Yeah, 100%. You know, he's a proven gun player. For me, I'm not going go touch him at all. He's burnt me, like, twice in two seasons. Like, and it's just been so frustrating. Like, one thing I have learned this year from not owning Rhys Walsh and Herbie Farnworth, you can still do well, even if you don't pick up, like, the really ah ah big guns who sometimes go off sometimes. And, like, even i unless he, like,
00:40:33
Chris
like and they see like shows you know, life and he's, you know, he's scoring consistently multiple hundreds and he's not getting injured, then fine, I'll jump on him. But otherwise I'm just going to stay clear until proven otherwise. Like just, he looked awful this year, you know, in that position.
00:40:49
Chris
And he just wasn't getting anything. He wasn't right as well. sorry So, yeah, it's a case of, yeah, no for me, dog, until proven otherwise. Yeah.
00:40:59
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah. hadn't thought some pong up. Hmm.
00:41:02
Adam
Well, they've signed Sandin Smith to play hooker, and he's a handy goal kicker. So that would be a big issue for Ponga if he lost the goals.
00:41:13
Tackles and Tinnies
Hmm.
00:41:13
Adam
Having said that, he's probably someone I'll start with. Just again, like if I want to fit in Haas and Terrell, do I pick Ponga at 600k or Walsh at 860? you know Considering that Walsh probably won't be goal kicking to start the year,
00:41:29
Adam
It's less attack-heavy games. you're not goingnna be playing teams that have given up. You know, that game against the Knights, like, they just stopped playing for the last 20 minutes. It's like their controller disconnected. He was just rolling through the middle.
00:41:38
Tackles and Tinnies
first.
00:41:39
Adam
Like, it was the easiest tries you'll ever see. So, he'll probably be looking at, like, guys like Kinney, guys like Ponga, like, guys that'll be cheap that we know can average 70-plus. And don't know about you, Ryan. I'd be curious to hear what you think. Like, the Knights were shocking in attack this year, like, really bad.
00:41:57
Adam
but Darf was finding his feet at like Ogye and Hastings, and now they've got Dylan Brown, who's obviously a much better player. They've got Sand and Smith in a hooker, who's actually a decent player as well in attack.
00:42:10
Adam
And they've got a bunch of weapons. Like they've got Dom Young, they've got Bess, they've got Marzu, they've got Gagai out wide, Lucas will be back. To me, that's a pretty strong attacking unit on paper. They've got a new coach.
00:42:21
Adam
Like, as much as people joke about how they can't score points in their terrible attacking team, I don't see why they can't be one of the better attacking teams next year.
00:42:28
Tackles and Tinnies
yeah Yeah, mate, I 100% agree. That's why I'm sort of asked the question regarding Ponga. I think he's going to be definitely at a discount. I think give the keys to Ponga.
00:42:39
Tackles and Tinnies
Give keys, like what the Titans did to Jadon Campbell, give him the halfback position. He plays like a halfback. Literally, as soon as he gets into the red zone, Ponga is halfback. We can all agree with that.
00:42:50
Tackles and Tinnies
And you love Mr. Sharp, Adam Prove. We know this for a fact, that Magic Crown.
00:42:55
Adam
We all love this job.
00:42:56
Tackles and Tinnies
We all love Mr.
00:42:56
Adam
Yes.
00:42:57
Tackles and Tinnies
Sharp. Thank you.
00:42:57
Chris
Thank you, Mr. Schaaf.
00:42:59
Tackles and Tinnies
yeah But, yeah, Fletcher Sharp at fullback, like absolute gun, got a really good motor, can break the line, and I think that will give Dylan Brown that off-ball role again 5'8".
00:43:14
Tackles and Tinnies
Why not? Like, obviously, a couple years ago, Ponga played in the halves and they had all those concussion issues. That's probably to do with tackling technique and a bit of unluckiness. But again, I think if new coach, new situation, Ponga just needs to yeah have it off season there, more importantly, again in the halves. again, a lot's changed in the past three years regarding what players can and cannot do regarding regarding tackling technique. So I'm more optimistic Ponga will get half back. And if Ponga is half back, I think he's just going to absolutely go gangbusters.
00:43:54
Tackles and Tinnies
Is that fair, Chris?
00:43:56
Chris
Yeah, look, it's potentially possible. ah ah Again, i think I'm going to stay clear. going to watch him for two rounds. And if he just looks like he's and back to his previous best, then fine. I'll pick him up in round three before the price rises.
00:44:08
Chris
But I think there's other more reliable fullbacks, you know, for the moment.
00:44:09
Tackles and Tinnies
Yep.
00:44:14
Tackles and Tinnies
Now I think,
00:44:14
Adam
I mean, we should probably just quickly, probably preface this. It all comes down to schedule as well. You know, like no one's picking Ponger if his first three opponents are Bulldogs, Raiders away, Panthers, Roosters, Broncos.
00:44:21
Tackles and Tinnies
yes
00:44:26
Adam
Like that's his first five. No one's touching him.
00:44:28
Tackles and Tinnies
yep yep
00:44:29
Adam
If he's got Titans, Dragons, Tigers, you know, was going say Knights, he can't play himself, but you know. If he's got teams like that, like it's hard to stay away. So it's it's fun to talk about this stuff, and I'll definitely be keen for the preseason pods next
00:44:40
Tackles and Tinnies
and
00:44:43
Tackles and Tinnies
yeah
00:44:44
Adam
There's a lot that needs to be on the track.
00:44:48
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah, so it's good little taster and I think the fans on all the platforms will appreciate either the snippets or the long version of the Q&A with you, Adam. Again, huge insight. I've learned a lot and I've taken some mental notes for next year.
00:45:04
Tackles and Tinnies
Whether or not I can implement the impulse control, time will tell, as we say in this podcast. Now, Adam, have you got your super coach up for me?
00:45:10
Adam
Well,
00:45:13
Adam
I can. Yeah.
00:45:15
Tackles and Tinnies
yeah
00:45:15
Adam
I was just going to say, before we are before we move on from last year, quickly, or this year, I had a bit of bit of bragging, bit of bloating on the podcast about the rankings.
00:45:19
Tackles and Tinnies
yeah
00:45:25
Adam
I had a quick look. So, Ryan, you are 836. Yeah. And 900 something. Yeah. six
00:45:29
Tackles and Tinnies
Six. Yep.
00:45:30
Chris
Yeah, I
00:45:30
Adam
yeah and press your nine hundred and something
00:45:34
Chris
think so.
00:45:35
Adam
Yeah, so had a quick look, did a quick bit of maths, and Ryan, you're actually 4% better than Chris this year. So based on your ranking, you're a 12% better Supercoach player, so congratulations.
00:45:47
Tackles and Tinnies
I knew it.
00:45:48
Adam
unfortunately but but ah Unfortunately, based on the same rankings with me coming third, I am 28,000% better than you. So you've got a fair way to go, but I'm glad glad that you're learning.
00:45:58
Tackles and Tinnies
That's so good.
00:46:04
Adam
Top 1000 is awesome, boys.
00:46:04
Tackles and Tinnies
Oh, mate.
00:46:05
Adam
I mean, that's a huge goal.
00:46:06
Tackles and Tinnies
I...
00:46:07
Adam
Hopefully they do some prize packs this year because, yeah.
00:46:07
Chris
Bye.
00:46:11
Tackles and Tinnies
Give me my KFC socks. On someone's listening, I'm tagging KFC. I'm going to spam them. Give me my socks.
00:46:20
Adam
Yeah, no.
00:46:20
Tackles and Tinnies
So Adam, yeah, sorry about what you're
00:46:23
Adam
Oh, no, no, we can move on. I just wanted to throw that out there. One last one last little brag.
00:46:28
Tackles and Tinnies
saying. Yeah. 28,000% better. It's bloody crazy. Anyway, you gave me Reece Walsh. So I can't complain. He wasn't even on my radar. So Reece Walsh, I love you.
00:46:40
Tackles and Tinnies
Now, Adam, your Supercoach finals team had you go last week.
00:46:47
Adam
yeah pretty shocking to be honest i'm pretty burnt out from the stress of being five so i made the team in about two minutes and my strategy was go for pods because i figured it's only four weeks you need to probably start strong if you're going to do well and So I picked a few pods.
00:47:05
Adam
I picked Dylan Edwards as my vice captain, who was invisible. And I picked Stephen Crichton, who lasted all of 13 minutes. So I got about 850.
00:47:17
Adam
I'm like 31K or something. So I'm not super invested in I've made a team for this
00:47:19
Tackles and Tinnies
ye
00:47:22
Adam
But interestingly, if you just burn vanilla, you basically had the perfect team last week. It was almost exactly just the highest...
00:47:30
Tackles and Tinnies
Don't give Jake the gloating, mate. He was all last week, stick to the proven guns or whatever he was saying last week. It was true. It was true.
00:47:39
Adam
Oh, I was way off. I was like, oh, you need to get ahead early. There's no point being vanilla. Instead, like, you look through it, it was like the best possible team was like Grant or Braley, who were like 50% each. And then it was like Haas, Hudson, Cleary, Munster, Nawa, Walsh, and Teddy. That was the most vanilla team you could pick, and they all scored the best.
00:47:56
Adam
So.
00:47:56
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah.
00:47:57
Chris
Yeah.
00:48:00
Adam
Interesting.
00:48:00
Tackles and Tinnies
Well, my team, I went a little bit potty as well. I got in Dylan Edwards for a a low 51 points, even though the Panthers managed to score pretty well. it so that was quite disappointing.
00:48:15
Tackles and Tinnies
And I also got in Jacob Kras for an 87. So with the Mark Nwonganita Wase, it was like a 15-point difference, not too bad. The biggest one, a bit frustrating, actually was going to do a last second trade out with Ethan Strange back to Munster, but I just missed the the reverse trade there. So that was like 40 points, which actually technically would have put me in front of all you boys.
00:48:36
Tackles and Tinnies
971 points, pretty solid. Captain CM Walsh, ride or die, very nervous. And before halftime, obviously with the sin binning, I'm like, oh, shit, I'm actually going to come last in this call. I'm going to eating 100 nuggets before my touch carnival. Not ideal.
00:48:54
Tackles and Tinnies
But turns out Walshy, when in doubt, Rocks and diamonds. He was all diamonds and absolutely popped off. Got the best score. Very happy with that as well.
00:49:05
Tackles and Tinnies
But again, yeah, guys like Hudson Young absolutely killed it. So what I want to talk about this week, obviously, there's only four teams available. Now, Chris, let's just quickly run through the the lineups for this week.
00:49:19
Tackles and Tinnies
There's not too much to discuss regarding the Raiders and Sharks. They're pretty much named exactly what they were from last week. What are our thoughts here, Chris, for this game?
00:49:27
Chris
That's exactly right.
00:49:30
Chris
Yeah. Yeah. GIO Stadium. It's a night game, 7.50. I think the question is, can the Raiders, you know, mentally come back, you know, from that loss last Sunday, really? You know, can Ricky get them back up again? You sometimes, you know, when it's this devastating, you know, you're just done and you just have a second shit week and then you're done now but you know I trust Ricky, you know, and I reckon that they'll be up for it.
00:49:59
Chris
You know, the question is, will Nico be up for it as well? Shaft's are really good last week, actually, I thought. Really good defensively. You know, and Trindle was really, really good as well. So i reckon it'll be another close one. Probably another high-scoring match yet again.
00:50:11
Chris
Yeah. Forts, Adam?
00:50:12
Tackles and Tinnies
Adam, what he thought on this this game?
00:50:16
Adam
Yeah, I mean, Chris is spot on. Like, it's funny, Ricky was like wanting the Sunday game for the longer turnaround, rested everyone around 27. So they didn't really need the longer turnaround.
00:50:27
Adam
And now they've got a shorter turnaround after playing a 95 minute game that was physical, that was heartbreaking on multiple occasions. Obviously, the Sharks haven't travelled very well this year.
00:50:38
Adam
They've been pretty patchy in their form. I mean, Nico, you know, we joke about him being the downhill skier. Like, when things are going well, he's he's killing it. And when times are hard, he sometimes struggles, as much as I love Nico. You know, so it'll be interesting to see. I don't know if they can go down and come back like the Broncos did. I don't think they have that in them.
00:50:59
Adam
But if they can get on top early, it'll be nervous. And they're Canberra. So... It'll be a fun game, that's for sure.
00:51:07
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah, pretty much adding exactly what you guys said. Absolutely devastating. And i got a fan question from TikTok the Broncos game as a whole, and we'll go through that later on in the segment.
00:51:20
Tackles and Tinnies
But, yeah, the Raiders, they'd be very hard done by. They literally lost the game twice. I mean, they won the game twice. So they're, again, named one to seventeen as was last week.
00:51:33
Tackles and Tinnies
They did everything right. Again, Broncos just were slightly that little bit better. So, again, few calls could have gone their way, vice versa, you know the deal. I'm tipping the Raiders, though. I think, again, the Sharkies going to Canberra.
00:51:48
Tackles and Tinnies
Obviously, they've got that momentum going in. But again, the Canberra Raiders, they're proven, they're trustworthy, and I just can't get around Nico Hines. Again, but i told i've said last week, Chris, on the podcast, Braden Trindle is the dog. He's the guy who's going to get him to that win.
00:52:04
Tackles and Tinnies
And tell me I was wrong.
00:52:07
Chris
Yeah, no, I think it, look, I'm also probably tipping the Raiders to win, but I think it depends on whether they can correct their right-hand side edge defense. You know, the Sharks, all those tries to Mulatalo, they all went down the left edge.
00:52:20
Chris
And, you know, if the Sharks outscore them on that left edge, I think that will really be the difference, in my opinion.
00:52:27
Tackles and Tinnies
yeah
00:52:29
Tackles and Tinnies
Adam, who's your tip?
00:52:32
Adam
let's go with the Sharks, just to be different. I'm 50-50. It'll be a close game, I think. Let's go Sharks.
00:52:37
Tackles and Tinnies
Yep. Yep. Okay. then next game, Chris, we've got yeah the Panthers versus the Dogs on Sunday afternoon.
00:52:47
Chris
Yeah, the Panthers, they're untouched or unchanged, 1-17. Bulldog, lots of changes just because of the injuries. Obviously, the main one, as Adam alluded to earlier, that would be Stephen Crichton. He's done, i think, with a syndesmosis injury or something like that. so i think I think Matty Burden.
00:53:06
Chris
Actually, no. think Bronch and Sherry probably will play that right centre. And then Matty Burden's playing left centre. Toby Sexton plays at halfback. Again, Galvin's in the six. baden ha Bailey halet Haywood, he hes he keeps that nine jersey.
00:53:22
Chris
But they've had to put Reid Marnie in because Bailey Haywood can't tackle. He missed 13 tackles last week. And yeah, that is lots of changes for the Bulldogs. And obviously, they're they're not going great at the moment.
00:53:34
Chris
And I think it's a question of, you know, can they reverse that slide? You know, if there's one team they can maybe beat would be probably the Panford because, you know, Cameron Sorrell comes from that system as well.
00:53:45
Chris
So he knows them quite well.
00:53:47
Tackles and Tinnies
Yep. I wouldn't be surprised if there's a late change, but I think Reid Marnie has to start. you met You talked about Bailey Hayward missing 13 tackles, but it's also worthy to note that Bailey Hayward made like 50-plus tackles. So...
00:54:00
Tackles and Tinnies
Yes, he missed 13, and not all missed tackles are the same. I thought he was quite good overall, so definitely shout out to him. But I think Reid Marnie, just in terms of that aggression, i think they need that at the start against the Penrith Panthers. They need to start fast.
00:54:17
Tackles and Tinnies
If Bulldogs get in the back foot and Panthers come out like the five or the four in a row, five grand finals in a row team that they are it's going to be an uphill battle, and I think that hill is going to be way too steep.
00:54:31
Tackles and Tinnies
I'm also, again, we've been talking for weeks about the Bulldogs, all their changes with Galvin, with Marnie, with Bailey Haywood. Now Stephen Crichton's out of the team more than likely. He's named on the extended bench at number 22.
00:54:44
Tackles and Tinnies
But Crichton was playing essentially fullback in the red zone. Now that's gone. Now we're going back to Connor Tracy being that sweeper. That's another change, another thing the Bulldogs have got to work out with.
00:54:57
Tackles and Tinnies
Now, Sexton's back in. He hasn't been in a regular first grade in the past month or so. Changes after changes after changes, and you're going against the juggernaut in the Panthers. You can probably see where my tip is going. I think the Panthers win this convincingly.
00:55:11
Tackles and Tinnies
Adam, who you got?
00:55:13
Adam
Yeah, it's the Panthers game to lose. I mean, being a full-time champion and having this bracket break for you is is pretty lucky. The Dogs, too many changes, too many injuries, too out of form.
00:55:27
Adam
I mean, what do they have for Crack Penrith other than Burton's spirals? Like, Tracy's not going to make them through their defense.
00:55:38
Adam
You know, he Bailey Hayward doesn't offer anything in attack as much as he gets to work defensively. yeah Alvin is a young player and doesn't have that finals experience. You know, Crichton was, like you said, he was the guy sparking their attack and he's now gone.
00:55:53
Adam
Their pack's not going to necessarily outmuscle Penrith. I mean, Isaiah Papali has been back to his best lately for the last eight, nine weeks. You know, Lindsay Smith, Isaiah Yeo, Mitch Kenny's back.
00:56:06
Adam
Well, might be back. I think he's in the extended. So, It's going to be very hard for the Bulldogs. I think it's a big choke if Penrith don't win this comfortably.
00:56:18
Adam
It could not have got a better matchup this week.
00:56:20
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah. What reckon, Chris?
00:56:23
Chris
Yeah, agree in the sense that it's Penriths to lose. you know i think I think the concern or the ah possibility of Bulldogs winning would be, or the one scenario I could see them really winning would be, for example, if it's a really tight game, you know, and it's a little bit chaotic, you know, and we saw last week that, you know, the attack for Penrith wasn't always going that great. The the service out of dummy half, whether was Luke Summerton or Schneider, some of those passes, you know, to Nathan Cleary weren't fantastic. And as a result, they they've missed a lot of opportunities to score, I felt.
00:56:56
Chris
but and get on the front foot, I think. you know and And for all we're talking about, you know, dogs being out of form, you know, for good parts of, you know, that that game against Melbourne last week, they were, think they were in the lead for but for good parts parts of it, even though it looked like Melbourne were dominating, really.
00:57:12
Chris
so So really, if it's close, you know, and and the Pampers attack, don't fire, you know, dogs always just find weird ways to score, you know, again, also their attack is clunky too, but they just find random ways to score, yeah.
00:57:24
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah.
00:57:25
Chris
But I think Pampers to win by 20%. by twenty
00:57:30
Tackles and Tinnies
Absolute demolition.
00:57:31
Adam
Thugs wool.
00:57:32
Tackles and Tinnies
Dogs of War, Ket Chen, so I'm probably not going to like that one, but we'll clip it up for them. But yeah, just just so much change for the Doggies. I think it's just going to be too much of a hurdle to overcome. And yeah, i didn't and adam I didn't notice Mitch Kenny at number 22. I'm pretty much guaranteed he's coming back in.
00:57:50
Tackles and Tinnies
Who drops out? Probably Brad Schneider, then Luke Somerton. Maybe drops out. I'm not sure. But yeah, I think Mitch Kenny will play for sure. Now I want to go through the super coach teams and then we'll go relay back to the Broncos fan question.
00:58:06
Tackles and Tinnies
It's tough with the four different teams. And again, Adam, your strategy was you want pods in, but then obviously the strategy of the proven guns is necessity. But i think it's been more open this week for some positions.
00:58:18
Tackles and Tinnies
think we just go from top to bottom regarding who we're picking and maybe a different option after that. I've got Blake Braley as my hooker. Is there any differentiation there, boys? Yeah.
00:58:33
Chris
Now I've got Blake as well. I don't think you can pick anybody from from the Bulldogs. Mitch Kenny's also not an option. Sometimes he can like he can score really well, as in he can just make like 55 tackles, and you can just base about 60 something that, assuming he makes no missed tackles.
00:58:46
Chris
you know But he's unlikely to to make get any to jag any try assists or anything like that. You could also go you know Tom Starling. He was pretty good last week, really.
00:58:55
Tackles and Tinnies
Yep.
00:58:56
Chris
But no, I think Braley's the safe option, in my opinion.
00:58:59
Tackles and Tinnies
Yep. Definitely. Adam, you any difference?
00:59:02
Adam
Yeah, I went styling just for the pod at 30k, so I need something different.
00:59:05
Tackles and Tinnies
Yep. Like that.
00:59:09
Tackles and Tinnies
Yep, I like that. I like that. Okay, front row. I've got AFB. There's not too much. Probably Tarpanay is my second option. Could switch out. But, again, I've got a couple of Raiders in my team that I can't get him in, unfortunately. Hence why switched to AFB.
00:59:24
Tackles and Tinnies
AFB in past seasons has been proven to jag a try here or there. Whether or not he can do that against the Raiders, time will tell. Adam, who you got for front row?
00:59:37
Adam
Yeah, I'm with you. I got AFB. I actually think maybe the best pick will be a Panther, maybe Lindsey Smith, maybe Isaiah Papali'i, but I've got some Panthers in some other spots and you can only have three.
00:59:47
Adam
So I don't figure Fanua Blake has to play big minutes if the Sharks want to win this game.
00:59:48
Tackles and Tinnies
Yep.
00:59:52
Tackles and Tinnies
Yep.
00:59:53
Adam
He's got some attacking upside.
00:59:54
Adam
Yeah, he looked a good option to me too, so that's who I went with.
00:59:58
Tackles and Tinnies
Yep. Chrissy, you got?
01:00:00
Chris
Yeah, I'm going Joey Taps.
01:00:03
Tackles and Tinnies
Yep.
01:00:03
Chris
I think he has... Last week he scored 67. put the offload away. he played 65 minutes. It's a do or die game. I think he's going to play similar 65 minutes. And, you know, hopefully, you know, he if he if he just... If he offloads a couple of times, that 67 goes to 80-ish pretty much. and And if he scores a try, that just goes straight to 100. We know he can score a try.
01:00:28
Chris
The, the, I think that, you know, uh, in terms of Lindsay Smith and Isaiah Pufferley, I disagree a little bit. Uh, Lindsay Smith's kind of just dropped off a bit. he He scored a few seventies or so you know, at the end of the season, but he looks little bit perhaps banged up and he just isn't that same try, uh, try for it that he was early in the season.
01:00:47
Chris
I think Isaiah Harper Lee is crazy, but I think he only played like 38 minutes last week. So if he comes off the bench again, you know, it's just it's just not worth the risk. It's kind of like Aaron Clarke last week. You know, yeah, could be really worthwhile, but if he doesn't make the minutes, then you're kind of, you know, regretting your trade.
01:01:03
Chris
I think that the one really good player actually might who might be the best out of all of them, um it's actually probably just Corey Hawesborough. Like, Sticky seems to play him for like a really, really long time. Like, he played 69 minutes last week.
01:01:15
Chris
And then he had about four offloads and he scored 72 points. So he was actually the highest after Payne Haas last week.
01:01:20
Tackles and Tinnies
Yep.
01:01:23
Chris
So he might be a good one. But as a result, like i said, I think Joey Taps, his try scoring ability is better.
01:01:30
Tackles and Tinnies
I agree.
01:01:30
Chris
So I'm going to him.
01:01:32
Tackles and Tinnies
Now, second row, i think it's obvious, unless you want to go super potty like Isaiah Yeo, maybe a kick out, but surely it's going to be Hudson Young.
01:01:42
Tackles and Tinnies
Adam, you're the same, surely.
01:01:44
Adam
Yeah, look him in.
01:01:45
Tackles and Tinnies
Yep. Chris, are you different or...?
01:01:48
Chris
Nah, just Hudson Young. Yeah.
01:01:50
Tackles and Tinnies
It's boring. Jake will love it. It's vanilla, but it's definitely the strat. So that's my first raid, and I've actually got three in my team. I think half-back, sure, don't have to even discuss this one. so Chris, it's Cleary.
01:02:05
Adam
It's Snicker Hot. Oh.
01:02:07
Tackles and Tinnies
Adam's leak in Niko.
01:02:07
Chris
Oh, gal.
01:02:08
Chris
Nah, it's clear.
01:02:09
Tackles and Tinnies
What?
01:02:10
Adam
yeah
01:02:10
Chris
It's clear for me.
01:02:12
Tackles and Tinnies
What?
01:02:13
Adam
Nah, it's clear.
01:02:15
Chris
It's clear.
01:02:16
Adam
It's definitely clear.
01:02:18
Chris
You'd have to pay me 12K before I put Lucky Galvin back in my team again.
01:02:25
Tackles and Tinnies
Oh, mate, I almost just blew a blood vessel.
01:02:28
Tackles and Tinnies
So, no idea. Yeah, definitely Cleary. Nico Hyde, it'll be interesting to see if he's snuck into the flex position.
01:02:32
Chris
Okay.
01:02:37
Tackles and Tinnies
I've got an inkling that could happen here. Now, 5'8", again, could be a little bit different. I'm going Ethan Strange personally. Again, proven gun.
01:02:48
Tackles and Tinnies
But you could go guy like Matty Burden, but he's playing in the centres. You could go a guy like Trindle because he's the real one I see at the Sharks. It could also be potentially a Blaise Talunghi.
01:03:00
Tackles and Tinnies
Definitely not Galvin. Who are we thinking, Chris?
01:03:04
Chris
I've just got Matty Burden. I think the two safest picks this week are either him or Ethan Strange.
01:03:07
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah.
01:03:10
Chris
I find that both of them need to drag a try in order to score kind of well. The reason I've got Burden is just simply goal kicking. you know It might just add an extra 12, 16 points or so.
01:03:22
Chris
yeah
01:03:23
Tackles and Tinnies
You reckon the dogs are scoring, mate? That's interesting.
01:03:27
Chris
yeah it' will be it'll be it'll be Yeah, it'll be to by 20.
01:03:31
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah, one can dream.
01:03:32
Chris
still stamford by twenty
01:03:34
Tackles and Tinnies
Are you not worried about him being at center?
01:03:34
Chris
yeah
01:03:36
Tackles and Tinnies
He's to get less ball, like less attacking opportunities? so
01:03:41
Chris
Nah, he was still kicking on the fifth, you know, putting up those bombs. You know, he's still that ah ah opportunity to you know, get the try assist, even though last week he was, you know, at the centre position.
01:03:49
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah. Yeah, fair. Adam, who you got
01:03:53
Adam
Yeah, Ethan Strange. Blaise DeLonghi is dead to me after his horrendous performances on the run home. So he will not be coming into my side at any stage.
01:03:59
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah.
01:04:01
Adam
Yeah,
01:04:02
Chris
Hey, he scored like a 90. You know, I had him in my team.
01:04:04
Adam
yeah. Yeah, I got Tukey Simpkins 18 points that week. Thank you very much. Yeah,
01:04:11
Chris
cra
01:04:12
Adam
yeah no. I'm going Ethan Strange. i mean, I didn't consider Burton just because in the sentence. And Trindle is not a bad option, but I have some other Sharks, so.
01:04:24
Tackles and Tinnies
Now this one's a, A 50-50, I reckon. I think a lot of people could be a three-horse race here. Maybe four of your Casey McClue hands. But Jacob Caraz, he's my my one IC today. Again, I picked him last week. He did work really well at 87 points.
01:04:40
Tackles and Tinnies
You've got Ronnie Moolatalo. He's a tri-scoring machine. Brian Toto is another smoky one you could also talk about. Carol Eero also dead to me. refuse to pick him in after, uh, being a shit pod instead a getting Marky Mark in, but yeah, it's, uh, Jacob Crouch for me Who have you got?
01:04:59
Tackles and Tinnies
Uh, Chris.
01:05:00
Chris
I got Ronnie Molotalo in. you know you You know, I just saw what the Raiders, you know, what they got done to them on that right edge. I said earlier that I do expect them to kind of you know, to to respond this week. But it's it's not that easy to fix defense as Adam and I know on in our Touch Footy Games team. It's very hard to improve your defense in one round.
01:05:25
Tackles and Tinnies
right
01:05:25
Chris
And so I'm hoping he jags a couple of tries or so something like that once again and just continue that good form. What about you, Adam?
01:05:33
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah.
Brian To'o Controversy and Rugby Picks
01:05:34
Chris
have you got?
01:05:36
Adam
I have the Montoya Destroyer, Brian To'o. Unfortunately, Montoya's not named.
01:05:40
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah, like it.
01:05:42
Adam
I thought that rhymed a bit better than the Rinnecama Destroyer. But did you guys see that To'o Instagram thing?
01:05:51
Tackles and Tinnies
No, have to watch it. What happened?
01:05:52
Adam
Did you guys not see that? Oh, God. but he Yeah, he basically got in a bit of trouble because he was commenting inappropriate things on pictures of his teammates.
01:06:02
Adam
It was a joke.
01:06:03
Tackles and Tinnies
like I'll have to watch it.
01:06:04
Adam
Anyway, that's a joke that people will get.
01:06:05
Tackles and Tinnies
Okay. Yeah.
01:06:07
Adam
Anyway, I'll go the destroyer, Brian To'o. I think, I just think the dogs gonna get thrashed. So he looked good. He's had a few weeks off.
01:06:15
Tackles and Tinnies
Fair enough.
01:06:16
Chris
Yeah, I thought you were talking, Adam, about this other one where I think Cooper Cronk was like interviewing Toto after the game or something like that. And I think Toto got confused where the camera was.
01:06:26
Chris
And I think Cooper said, oh, you can look wherever you want, Brian. And Brian just looked left really far away from the camera and just started talking randomly because he could.
01:06:33
Adam
you
01:06:36
Chris
Yeah, it's just such a Brian Toto thing to do.
01:06:39
Adam
ah
01:06:40
Tackles and Tinnies
Legit.
Team Selections and Strategy Discussion
01:06:41
Tackles and Tinnies
So fullback, I've got Dylan Edwards. i'm I'm trying again, take two. I'm not going Will Kennedy for obvious reasons.
01:06:50
Tackles and Tinnies
Who knows what's happening at with Connor Tracy. That's just absolute rocks and diamonds there. As you would know, Chris, all too well. And there's another guy in my flex position. May as well say both because it's both fullbacks.
01:07:00
Chris
So
01:07:01
Tackles and Tinnies
I've got KO weeks in my flex. have you boys got at fullback and your flex, Adam? Who have you got first?
01:07:09
Adam
So our fullback, I've got the invisible man, Dylan Edwards. I'm running it back with him. He had, yeah, he he barely saw the ball last week. He had more hair than touches last week. So I'm hoping he's actually involved in the attack this week. Fingers crossed, because he was literally just floating out there watching Cleary do his thing.
01:07:29
Adam
But again, I'm just banking on Penrith winning big. And then in my flex, I got your boy, the downhill skier, Nico Hines.
01:07:36
Tackles and Tinnies
No, I knew it. I knew it.
01:07:39
Adam
I thought I was going to catch you off guard with that one, but clearly not.
01:07:39
Tackles and Tinnies
The Nemesis. Yeah.
01:07:41
Adam
Yeah. Go on Nico Lyons. I just like him. i want I want him to succeed. I want to be cheering him on. i want to be talking talking trash in the chat when he goes big.
01:07:49
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah.
01:07:49
Adam
And, you know, I don't really care that much about finals. So if he goes low, that's fine too.
01:07:54
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah, fair enough.
01:07:55
Adam
you thinking,
Broncos Game Analysis
01:07:56
Adam
Chris?
01:07:56
Tackles and Tinnies
Chris, you know.
01:07:58
Chris
Yeah, look, I got weeks at fullback and, you know, Ryan, you just know me too well. You know, I got Nico Hines Flakes, you know.
01:08:05
Tackles and Tinnies
and
01:08:07
Chris
You know, I didn't have him last week and i and i and I missed you going, you know, Chris, I told you not to get Nico.
01:08:08
Adam
Nico?
01:08:14
Chris
I told you Nico sucks and, you know, i want I want to hear you say that to me again this week. So I've got him in specifically. ah might I might change my mind, you know, when, but you know,
01:08:23
Adam
I'll do it.
01:08:24
Chris
My common sense comes to me, you know, logic comes back and I'll get Brian To'o in something like that. But it's like Adam says, man, I like Nico. I just, oh, it's hard to hate him. I just want him to do well. The poor guy. Like, he's actually a good guy. He's a good dude.
01:08:36
Chris
Yeah.
01:08:36
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah.
01:08:37
Chris
Yeah.
01:08:38
Tackles and Tinnies
I talk smack and um obvious reasons, just bit of clickbait. But, yeah, no, he's a good dude and he does so much for the community and mental health awareness as well.
01:08:45
Chris
Yeah.
01:08:48
Tackles and Tinnies
You want him to succeed, but Nico Hines, you're still my nemesis. He still fucked me over as super coach. So you're dead to me, at least for 2025. man.
01:08:57
Chris
Oh, Ron, you'll love this. He's actually my visa at the moment, too.
01:09:00
Adam
Oh, spicy. Hey, Ryan, has it been acknowledged that if you didn't buy Nico Hines, you wouldn't have gotten in Rhys Walsh? You
01:09:10
Tackles and Tinnies
True.
01:09:10
Adam
would have been stuck with Dylan Edwards. So I think Nico Hines, think you Nicholas an apology.
01:09:12
Tackles and Tinnies
True.
01:09:16
Adam
Mr. Hines should be receiving a gift basket in the mail, I reckon.
01:09:16
Tackles and Tinnies
Nico, you're still dead to me.
01:09:21
Tackles and Tinnies
Nico Hines, you might get my KFC socks if they come in the mail. That's the trade. Adam, who have you got as your VC and your captaincy for this week?
01:09:31
Adam
Yeah, I'm just going VC, Totto and C Cleary. There's no one on Penrith. I did the same last week. I went VC, Edwards and C Cleary and Edwards was invisible. So going Totto this week and we'll see how we go
01:09:45
Tackles and Tinnies
Chris, you got, mate?
01:09:46
Chris
Yeah, VC, Nico, and then C, Cleary.
01:09:51
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah, Nico, Nico, Nico. I've currently got the VC on Edwards and I've got the C on Blake Braley because I haven't set my captaincy.
01:10:06
Tackles and Tinnies
It's been auto-selected for me.
01:10:08
Chris
Oh, no.
01:10:09
Tackles and Tinnies
So...
01:10:11
Adam
It
01:10:11
Tackles and Tinnies
and so ah so ah Going off the fly here, I'm probably going to VC or whoever's playing first out of – who's playing first?
01:10:17
Chris
Yes.
01:10:23
Tackles and Tinnies
Is it Canberra? Probably go VC Weeks and then C on to Nathan Cleary.
01:10:25
Chris
yeah
01:10:25
Adam
doesn't matter. It doesn't matter.
01:10:30
Tackles and Tinnies
You can tell I'm an organised podcaster. So, yeah, that's interesting. That's Supercoach for this week. And, again, you've the three players for this round, not like the two.
01:10:42
Tackles and Tinnies
it's pretty 50-50. Again, I think you've got to go for the matchup. I do like the Brian To'o share and KOX is absolute rocks and diamonds. If he doesn't score, he's got two tries and and a line break and got 81 points. So the volatility there is not too reassuring.
01:10:57
Tackles and Tinnies
So might go the b Brian To'o safe route and put the BC on him. But, well, maybe the C. I don't know. Time will tell. But
Broncos' Strategic Challenges
01:11:05
Tackles and Tinnies
before we wrap up the show, boys, I got a fan question and bit of shit talking at school.
01:11:11
Tackles and Tinnies
But, The Broncos game. It was absolute rollercoaster of emotions. And as a Queenslander, I was riding the Broncos home on that big pony.
01:11:23
Tackles and Tinnies
It was just literally they'd lost the game twice. Again, as soon as Reece Walsh got Simbin headbutting, well, it wasn't really a headbutter. He literally put his head into Hudson Young.
01:11:36
Tackles and Tinnies
then Hudson Young obviously instigated the whole event, whatever. And Paddy Carrigan doing his best Nelson. I saw someone on a Mona impression on that impression doing a shoulder to the head.
01:11:48
Tackles and Tinnies
He went off. I just thought, we're cooked. And then all of a sudden, Payne Haas gets injured again. I'm like, get him off. Get off the field. We've got to look towards next week. We're down like 12, 18 points, whatever it was at the time.
01:12:01
Tackles and Tinnies
And then... Somehow the negative aura that I put onto the Broncos, the jinx, as we know me as in this script chat, it just paid off. And then all of a sudden I was riding the Broncos, try after try, Reese Ross literally just said, get on my back, look at my wide shoulders. I'm going to get you boys home after effing up essentially.
01:12:24
Tackles and Tinnies
Can the Broncos... Recover, as you see in the news today, boys, i don't know if you have, but I put in the group chat as well. Billy Walters, partial ACL, some sort of injury. Don't know if it's a complete tear. Don't know if it's a sprain to the ACL. There's not much information at the moment.
01:12:40
Tackles and Tinnies
Huge loss. I think he's been a real driving force currently for the Brisbane Broncos. Adam, we'll start with you your analysis. What was your thoughts on the Broncos in particular or about the Broncos-Raiders game?
01:12:55
Adam
I think they showed everything they needed to. To fight back like that is really impressive. You know, you can easily throw in the towel. Like they were down by what, 16 points with like 14 minutes to go. it would have been, I mean, Hosking almost scored. That would have definitely put it out of reach.
01:13:13
Adam
They could have easily thrown in the towel and looked to next week and that would have been it. it's a But to fight back like that, I mean, Walsh, we've said it in the group chat, Walsh is in that Renan Hain sort of form right now. He's just electric and he's kicking 40-20s, he's scoring tries, he's passing the ball.
01:13:29
Adam
And they've got the forward pack to lay a platform for him. I think that they are a real red-hot premiership chance. It's just going to come down to...
Reece Walsh Skills Comparison
01:13:42
Adam
Adam Reynolds at the end of the day, because he's probably coming back in and Hunt will probably move back to Hooker. And it would be interesting to see what happens.
01:13:52
Adam
Yeah. Well, Hunt could go to find eight I guess, if Billy Walsh is there.
01:13:56
Tackles and Tinnies
yeah
01:13:56
Adam
Yeah. I mean, I'll go as far as Walsh can take them and right now that's the limit.
01:14:02
Tackles and Tinnies
Thoughts on the game, Chris?
01:14:05
Chris
Yeah, truth is, going be honest, I didn't watch much of it. I was on a gardening duty, sadly.
01:14:10
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah.
01:14:12
Adam
You missed out, man.
01:14:13
Chris
And no, I know i listened to it on the radio on ABC radio, actually.
01:14:14
Adam
What a game.
01:14:15
Tackles and Tinnies
yeah
01:14:18
Chris
But the problem was that I left my phone inside inside my house. So like every once in a while when I had to kind of move a bit too far, I'd lose the Wi-Fi connection on my headphones.
01:14:29
Chris
So I'd try to go back and then live would be like, nah, man, you need to clean this bit. I'm like, hell. Anyways, yeah, no, look, I honestly think that, look, the Broncos could go 100% could go of the way.
01:14:40
Chris
I am a big believer in it is teams that get hit that running momentum in August or July, August, September.
01:14:47
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah.
01:14:49
Chris
They're the teams that always win it. Once they hit that, you know, and they just come with sky high confidence, which is funnily enough, one of the reasons why I think that the Raiders lost last week.
01:15:02
Chris
I think that they shouldn't have rested everybody in round 27. Because when you kind of loop that, that momentum gets stunted a little bit. I know you get that week of rest that when you're that red hot form, you know, every week, it doesn't matter. You're on that, you're running on that adrenaline things like that.
01:15:17
Chris
But yeah, I think that it's, it's what Adam said. It's like Reese Walsh, dude, the guy, he, he, He's just, he made four assists last week. ah He's involved in four of the tries, you know, two 40-20s. One of those 40-20s was from, you know, from what, the 30?
01:15:32
Chris
And then it ended up at the 10 metre line or something like that. It was like a 30-10 or whatever it was. So he's just incredible. And so if if none of the other teams can tackle him or he just keeps, you know, having good days and, you know, making more scores and bad decisions, I think they win, honestly.
01:15:49
Chris
Yeah.
01:15:51
Tackles and Tinnies
i Yeah, ah with the Rhys Walsh thing too, you alluded, Adam, to Tom Trebojevic. You can also alluded to Jared Haim. Ben Barber is another one we could throw out there.
01:16:04
Tackles and Tinnies
If you guys reflect, obviously, for some of our younger viewers, you probably weren't old enough. But some of those guys, obviously scintillating, red-hot form. I remember Hayne playing when he took that Parramatta team. I think it was 2009 to the grand final.
01:16:19
Tackles and Tinnies
But if we look at Recy Walsh now, he's got the most complete game out of all of them. And I think his defense, obviously, can be lazy sometimes chasing around the back. But he actually does make a few big defensive players. remember i think it was not this game but last.
01:16:35
Tackles and Tinnies
He made a huge try-saving tackle, absolutely folded a guy. But then the
Reece Walsh's Future Potential
01:16:39
Tackles and Tinnies
energy he brings, he does those big roars, those big celebrations, and ah actually actually gees up the boys, which is like those intrinsic – things that would actually motivate your boys and your team.
01:16:51
Tackles and Tinnies
But yeah, with the 40-20s, with the cutout passes, with the dynamic running game, um running game, um the obviously the converting, I'm saying it right now, I think it's more impressive than all those boys.
01:17:05
Tackles and Tinnies
Adam, is that too crazy or?
01:17:08
Adam
Look, I think so. Only because, like, Hain 09 was just ridiculous. Like, that wasn't a strong Parramatta team either. You know, like, this Broncos team, but you've got Haas, you've got Carrigan, you've got Staggs, you've got big names. Yes, they have some scrubs as well, obviously. But, like, even Ben Hunt, I mean, he's been there and done that.
01:17:27
Adam
So, like, Hain in 09, like, firstly, they made the grand final. We'll see what Walsh does. And, I mean, they lost to the Storm that were over the salary cap, Jared saying. pointing out on Twitter not too long ago.
01:17:40
Adam
so, I mean, i wouldn't quite put Walsh on that stratosphere yet. but I mean, he could do it. He could go one step further. Absolutely.
01:17:50
Adam
he's probably, i mean, Barber was similar sort of thing. I'd probably say he's that level right now. We'll see what happens. turbo 2021 is interesting because it was carving up and for super coach, like we'll never see it ever again, but then they didn't do it very well in the finals that year.
01:18:01
Tackles and Tinnies
yeah
01:18:04
Adam
So, That's an interesting comparison point. i don't think he's quite reached 8.09. We'll see what happens.
01:18:12
Tackles and Tinnies
So to beat Hain 09, you would probably have to say he replicates or close to replicating what he did against the Raiders in the prelim, probably against, and again, Panthers win.
01:18:26
Tackles and Tinnies
What a storytelling script. The NRL will be absolutely salivating. Brisbane versus Panthers, 2023 grand final rematch in the prelim. And then obviously if he does well there and then gets the grand final and gets the MVP, the Wally Lewis medal, would you think, Adam, that's enough to say that's the greatest stretch of all time?
01:18:49
Adam
Yeah, I mean, if we're talking purple patch of form, if he wins, mean, if they win the premiership and he wins the Wally Lewis medal, then what can the guy do? So I would say, so yeah, I just think in terms of like individual freakish run, I still think Hain is going to be hard to ever really top because that team wasn't that good.
01:19:05
Chris
Mm-hmm.
01:19:06
Adam
You know, they snuck into eighth, like snuck into eighth on the last week of the season. They had win like seven straight even make the eighth. And then he took them to the grand final.
01:19:13
Tackles and Tinnies
Yep.
01:19:15
Adam
Yeah. There's been some ridiculous runs. I mean, Thurston had a few in the in the finals where he was carrying these Cowboys teams, you know, the grand final. 2015 was obviously ridiculous.
01:19:28
Adam
So, yeah, I mean, it's hard to say best run ever, but in terms of just like a purple patch, that's just carried a team through. Like, I mean, if they win the grand final, it'll be brilliant at the end, for sure. I'm outrush more of that.
Broncos' Championship Chances with Walsh
01:19:42
Tackles and Tinnies
yeah What do you think about that, Chris?
01:19:44
Chris
Yeah, i think I think the best way to explain it, yeah, is just Purple Patch. You can't say that he's had the best season ever of all time. You know, we're talking about a guy that we were saying, hey, we don't we'd rather pick Caelan Ponga, you know, over him for, you know, for the Game 1 of State of Origin, you know, early this year.
01:19:59
Chris
You know, we're talking about, hey, he's lost completely lost his confidence from Round 2 to Round 7? No, Round 2 to 5, and I think then he was out with his PCL.
01:20:05
Tackles and Tinnies
yeah
01:20:08
Chris
I apologise. But, you know, you've got to also remember, you know, it was, you know, at the end of the season, it was Souths, it was... It was the Knights. it was It was the Cowboys. you know And they just, honestly, teams that you know they were running literally running through.
01:20:18
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah, good Yeah.
01:20:21
Chris
But what is super impressive is you know that individual try he had in round 27 against Melbourne Storm. He just left Munster for dead, who's a great defender. And then last week he left Jamal Fogarty for absolute dead as well.
01:20:36
Chris
you know it's These aren't bad defenders. it's not and these teams aren't and These are all desperate teams who want to win. you know It's not like you know the Knights who went on holidays. you know you know, for that entire final month in August.
01:20:48
Chris
So that's what's impressive. If he can just cipher these defenses, like however you want, and if he can make these 40-20s, because that was the thing. Like last week, Canberra was up for a lot of it, you know, in the first half, but then it was him, you know, making these 40-20s that really changed that play. It's the same how, you know, Cleary changes, you know, momentum when he makes those 40-20s out nowhere.
01:21:10
Chris
as well. And Reecey Walsh has that ability. It's can he continue that purple patch or will he run to that game where he just has an absolute shock and then scores nine in super coach points in round two?
01:21:23
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah, it's an interesting conversation. So, no, I hope that our sort of answered your question. But can the Broncos go all the way? 100%. think they're the most red-hot team at the moment. They've got all the confidence in the world.
01:21:36
Tackles and Tinnies
And they're getting boys back at
Team Dynamics and Leadership Impact on Broncos
01:21:38
Tackles and Tinnies
the most important time. Billy Walters, yes, he's done fantastic job stepping in for Ezra Mann slash Ben Hunt, I guess you could say, in that 5'8 position role because obviously Hunt's role changed to halfback.
01:21:50
Tackles and Tinnies
But Billy Walters, yes, did a good job, but then you get a supercharged version of what Billy Walters is doing now with Ezra Mann. So those opportunities where – or those situations where Billy Walters is taking on the line and doing a dummy and run, Ezra Mann breaks the line every single time doing that. So we have Reynolds is willing to hand the keys over, and i think that's a big caveat for this whole Brisbane Broncos run,
01:22:18
Tackles and Tinnies
And that's what I've been saying in the group chat too. Like, do they change anything? Does Reynolds even come in? blah, blah. blah
01:22:24
Chris
Thank you.
01:22:25
Tackles and Tinnies
The caveat is if Reynolds is willing to give the keys to Walsh and say, mate, this is your team, you can take us to the promised land, which is a big thing for a guy who's the captain and proven commodity. Yeah.
01:22:40
Tackles and Tinnies
I think that's what needs to happen for the Broncos to win, especially against assuming the Panthers and then let's say the Raiders for not Nico Heim's sake.
01:22:52
Tackles and Tinnies
Adam, is there any ah caveats to that?
01:22:54
Adam
No, you're spot on, man. It comes down to Reynolds. I mentioned it earlier. It's all about how he fits back in. You know, we obviously watch a lot NBA and, you know, you look at a guy like LeBron who is willing to say, Luca, you're the Batman. I'll be the Robin now. You know, he's 40 and he's achieved little more than Adam Reynolds has in their respective sports.
01:23:12
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah, of course.
01:23:12
Adam
And if he can do that and take a bit of a backseat to Luca, then, you know, Adam Reynolds, like,
01:23:19
Chris
Okay.
01:23:19
Adam
he needs to let Walsh be that man. And he's not even Robin, he's Alfred. You know, he needs to just be whatever you want. You're getting it. You want the ball, you're getting the ball. You want to kick, you're kicking, you want to kick goals, you're kicking goals. Like Walsh has to be man, Robin, woman, you know, he's everyone.
01:23:38
Adam
And if they need 16 other Alfreds out there. You know, Haas can do some stuff maybe. You know, Reynolds really needs to,
01:23:43
Tackles and Tinnies
We don't want poison ivy.
01:23:45
Adam
wait Yeah. um Yeah.
01:23:49
Tackles and Tinnies
That's a good analogy.
01:23:49
Adam
reyns reynolds Reynolds really needs to just let ro Walsh run the show, get him good service.
01:23:52
Chris
Thank you.
01:23:54
Adam
They're going to win or lose based on Walsh. If he comes in and tries to do too much, it's going to be an issue. And that's my worry about Hunt at 5'8", because when Hunt has been halfback, he's been really good at controlling and getting Walsh the ball and doing the organizing.
01:23:59
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah.
01:24:07
Adam
Then when he shifts to 5'8", he's suddenly trying to try himself, and then he gets in Walsh's way. You know, they're in the same lanes. So... That is a bit of concern. That's really my only concern for Brisbane is, you know, can they keep this momentum going when they have to make these big changes?
01:24:26
Adam
You know, they've got two weeks to train, luckily, but it's going to be interesting. I mean, yeah, I'd be curious to hear what do you guys think.
01:24:33
Tackles and Tinnies
ah ah you Adam, sorry, Chris, I'll get your point in a sec, but Adam, are you more confident? Because I'm pretty sure Ezra Mann's going to be back for that prelim final.
01:24:41
Chris
Mm-hmm.
01:24:42
Tackles and Tinnies
So that means Ben Hunt will more than likely shift to the hooker position, assuming that Reynolds doesn't come off the bench. Are you more confident with that combination instead of the essentially the dual halfback in the halves?
01:24:55
Adam
Oh, definitely. i mean, Mem is very low your low usage. yeah like He doesn't do anything other than ah ah attack you when he gets the ball. And Megan is not throwing the ball if Walsh is cooking. you know And he's quite good. He'll just stick on the left. He's not going to do too much.
01:25:09
Adam
I think he's a perfect 5'8 for either Hunt or Reynolds at halfback. So, yeah, I'd much prefer Hunt off the bench. you know Start, it's for someone to make a bunch of tackles the first 20 minutes, bring Hunt on as a super sub, and then you know go from there.
01:25:24
Tackles and Tinnies
Chris, what are your thoughts, mate?
01:25:26
Chris
Oh, how do you guys, what do you guys think that Ryan, not Ryan Reynolds, Adam Reynolds does that that, that could potentially stunt Reese Walsh's involvement in the attack?
01:25:38
Adam
Thank you.
01:25:40
Tackles and Tinnies
I think it's just taking possessions off him. Like Reece Walsh, Adam said, he needs to just get the ball all the time. And that's what he's currently doing. It's literally...
01:25:51
Tackles and Tinnies
Reynolds is the Jamal Fogarty for the Raiders. He's just steering the ship and then you've got your attacking upside with Walsh at the back with those block plays. I'm just afraid Reynolds, again, we've seen throughout the year, and and Chris, we've talked about this in detail, that there's too many cooks in the kitchen at the Broncos.
01:26:12
Adam
Thank you.
01:26:12
Tackles and Tinnies
I'm afraid they're going to revert back to that.
01:26:15
Tackles and Tinnies
But obviously, Walsh's confidence has been up and down all year. Now he's on bloody Mount, war not Mount warning, Mount Everest in terms of his confidence. Is that changing anything for you
Historical Games Reflection and Broncos' Future
01:26:27
Chris
Yeah, I think I think Personally, to me, i think it just, I find that, you know, like, I think you for me, it was a question of whether Rhys, you know, when Reynolds was out, he was like, hey, do I need to step up, you know, and command more, more, you know, now that Reynolds is back, you know, I think it might necessarily, not necessarily be a case of,
01:26:39
Tackles and Tinnies
you?
01:26:47
Chris
uh oh reynolds is not giving uh reesey walsh the ball it could just be reese goes oh well he's back now i don't have to do things i think it's more of a personal mindset more than anything but you know it's gonna steal your favorite line you know time will tell but it's funny that adam brings up ah ah an nba kind of analogy with lbj because uh it instantly i can tell you an example actually of when
01:26:56
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah.
01:27:10
Chris
And when people coming back is really bad. I think of Jeremy Lin, Linsanity, back in 2012, when he was just absolutely going off and then Carmelo just was not happy that this was happening.
01:27:19
Tackles and Tinnies
yeah
01:27:20
Chris
And Carmelo came back and absolutely just ruined Linsanity. And, you know, yeah, you know what happens next. Yeah, the Knicks still haven't won a championship.
01:27:31
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah. Again, it's going to interesting and it's going to so hard to know until we see what their lineup is, but they're getting troops back at the right time. And I think after that 94 minute performance, and again, sort of missed the chance to say it, but we talked about game of the year, obviously with that, well, just missed because you're bloody gardening priorities, mate. Watch your footy tackles the tinnies. Come on, mate, get your homework done.
01:27:58
Tackles and Tinnies
But I reflect back, I don't know what year it was, and you boys might know off the top of your head, but it was a similar time length of game.
01:28:00
Chris
Cool.
01:28:06
Tackles and Tinnies
It was the West Tigers when they were actually relevant, and Lottie D'Akira was playing, and they were versing the Roosters. And I was just like all in on the West Tigers. I'm like, like hard Lottie, let's go.
01:28:18
Tackles and Tinnies
And then I think Sean Kenny Dow got the intercept. And then I just remember – Sean Kenny Dow straightening and then going for that left corner post and Lottie Dekiri trying to catch him. And then the Roosters one in like, again, the 95th minute or something.
01:28:32
Tackles and Tinnies
do you remember what year that was, boys?
01:28:36
Adam
I want to say 2010. Yeah.
01:28:38
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah.
01:28:39
Adam
and I know for sure. Is that, is it actually 2010? Oh, that's what I was thinking, but.
01:28:43
Chris
googled it. Yeah, not from my memory.
01:28:44
Adam
Oh yeah.
01:28:44
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah.
01:28:44
Adam
Good. Good.
01:28:45
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah.
01:28:45
Adam
I was just going to guess.
01:28:46
Tackles and Tinnies
Grade 10.
01:28:46
Adam
That was my best guess, but yeah.
01:28:48
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah. yeah great ten
01:28:49
Chris
Incredible, Adam. Incredible. Then you guessed 2010.
01:28:51
Tackles and Tinnies
yeah
01:28:52
Chris
in the
01:28:53
Adam
I mean, yeah, the Broncos Raiders game was pretty good, but i don't know if you guys remember earlier this year, Titans played the Tigers at Leichhardt. and was a pretty incredible game you know i think there was at one point they got through three sets without making an error which was pretty great so but so
01:29:09
Chris
Wait, is this Tigers or Titans?
01:29:10
Adam
think
01:29:11
Chris
It's incredible for both teams. Bro,
01:29:13
Adam
so did you remember that game oh my god it was disgusting tino got injured like straight away at the start tino hobbled off and i was it was a the tigers think one with a field goal but it was like 30 errors it was disgusting
01:29:16
Tackles and Tinnies
It's probably both, mate. That's what this thing...
01:29:27
Tackles and Tinnies
That's crazy.
01:29:27
Chris
for there's been some absolute trash Titans games this season.
01:29:31
Adam
Yeah.
01:29:32
Tackles and Tinnies
We're building. We're building at the right time. You're only as good as your last game and that means we're top four next year. You watch.
01:29:39
Chris
Mm-hmm.
Conclusion and Audience Engagement
01:29:40
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah, but boys, I think we'll we'll wrap it up there. I'm bloody getting hungry. so Noah, I hope that answered your question, mate. And you guys, keep telling these questions in. More than happy to answer in the pod, especially something like this where it's super relevant topic.
01:29:54
Tackles and Tinnies
But i I do my best to get through all your comments and all social media platforms. So, Again, more interaction for us, the better is for the algorithm. Again, you know the drill. Five star, share it, like it, subscribe it.
01:30:05
Tackles and Tinnies
Tell them, mate. You know, it's always good. So again, Adam, appreciated the Q&A at the very start, mate. And hopefully all super coaches out there learned a thing or two. I think Chris and I were secretly taking notes on the side there.
01:30:18
Tackles and Tinnies
That's for sure. And are some of the other bots in TriBots potentially ah took some notes there as well. I know they're trying to chase the top 0.05%.
01:30:27
Tackles and Tinnies
Only some of us are that good. So, Chris, is there any last words before we wrap it up?
01:30:33
Chris
Nah, thanks for coming on, Adam. Yeah, awesome. Awesome. Pick your brain. Yeah, and also, go Nico!
01:30:40
Tackles and Tinnies
Okay. Last words, mate.
01:30:43
Adam
Yeah, Nico season. Let's go.
01:30:45
Adam
It's
01:30:45
Tackles and Tinnies
the
01:30:47
Tackles and Tinnies
Get out of here. That's Tackles and Tinnies.
01:30:48
Adam
going to be a lot of
01:30:50
Tackles and Tinnies
Week two of the finals, episode 21. We love you guys. Enjoy your footy. See you later.