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Tackles and Tinnies Presents: The Fantasy Files - R23 - E15: The Glaze, The Groins & The Great Titans Robbery
33 Plays4 months ago
Ryan and Chris are flying high — both now sitting pretty in the Top 1%, and the ego is fully unlocked.
Ryan’s officially moved on from the Dylan Edwards non-captain trauma, thanks to a brilliant call to slap the C on Reece Walsh.
Chris? Quietly smug.
Adam? Still climbing — now ranked 8th in the country — and the boys continue to glaze him respectfully from a distance.
💥 Here’s what’s packed into this week’s pod:
🏆 Top 1% Club
– Ryan's redemption arc: from reverse trade hell to Walsh glory
– Are they peaking too early… or just getting started?
🧠 Herbie Goes Down — Now What?
– Hamstring heartbreak: Hold, punt, or pray?
– Do you go sideways to a POD… or throw the dice on upside?
🕶️ POD Watch
– Taine Tuipiki: legit option or one-week wonder?
– Turbo back at fullback — flashback or false hope?
– Is Payne Haas a must-have again for finals?
👑 Adam Watch
– Currently sitting 8th in Australia
– The boys continue to ride his coattails and manifest greatness
🔥 Head-to-Head Finals Chat
– All-in now? Or wait it out if you're Top 4?
– Looping tips, risk strategies, and trade timing when finals are on the line
🎤 Titans Therapy Time
– Ryan needs emotional support after the Cbus robbery
– The Panthers trainer incident that blocked Jayden Campbell's conversion attempt
– Was the $50K fine worth the 2 points? Let the listeners decide
– The bunker butchered it again — what’s going on?
🙏 Sign Jayden Campbell Already
– Ryan’s plea to Titans HQ: lock him in long-term
– Future Dally M? He’s THAT guy.
🧢 Captaincy Chat
– It feels like a rare consensus this week… or is it?
– Who do the listeners trust with the armband?
🩺 Physio Corner Shoutout
– Gary’s injury deep dives are live!
– Go watch Physio Corner Ep.1 for expert insights on shoulder dislocations and recovery timelines
– Soft tissue? Big issues. Don’t miss it.
🎧 It’s top-tier footy chat, strategy for finals, Herbie heartbreak, and a full Titans therapy session — welcome to Fantasy Files Round 22.
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Transcript
00:00:01
Tackles and Tinnies
Fresh crack of the tin. Cheers, Tackles and Tinnies listeners. Cheers to you, Chris.
00:00:06
Chris
Hello, hello.
00:00:07
Tackles and Tinnies
Oh, man, I haven't had a Coke's in a while. It's actually so good. good. um Chris, fantastic to see you, my friend. We missed you last week. us a little update what's happening in your life.
00:00:16
Chris
Yeah, no, i' it's good to be back, actually. I've been away, actually, the last last few weeks, actually, just flying in and out for for work and stuff like that. And haven't watched as much footy as I would like to watch, actually.
00:00:29
Chris
So, yeah, some of the stuff I say today. It will be just on numbers purely, and it may completely not reflect what was happening on the on the field last week.
00:00:41
Tackles and Tinnies
There's only one thing I hope, Chris, that you did watch was your beloved Tigers and you're ripping out the claw on the Bulldogs.
00:00:48
Chris
No, I was actually out and sit in Sydney, actually. Yeah, and it was absolutely pissing down rain, and I didn't even get to watch much of it at all. didn't watch it.
00:00:55
Tackles and Tinnies
Oh, it's brilliant.
00:00:56
Chris
Yeah, yeah. I didn't even.
00:00:57
Tackles and Tinnies
and And Chris, do you still have Adam Dewey? Because my God, I am so annoyed. Like literally as soon as I sold him, he's been popping off. I had the right idea of holding when he had that like one game at half back.
00:01:09
Tackles and Tinnies
And now he's finally got out of the centre, he's either playing lock or in the halves and he's been absolutely killing it. Have you still got Dewey?
00:01:16
Chris
I still have him. i left him on the bench.
00:01:17
Tackles and Tinnies
Oh my God.
00:01:19
Chris
Like Adam told me, oh, hey, he's he's playing halfback. you maybe you should play him. And I was like, nah, trust in drinky. was completely the wrong choice. Yeah, that was 105 that I missed out.
00:01:28
Tackles and Tinnies
a
00:01:31
Chris
That's all right. Yeah.
00:01:33
Tackles and Tinnies
What a vibe, what a vibe. Now, I think before we get into absolute carnage of around 22, Chris, where what did you score?
00:01:43
Tackles and Tinnies
what did you What's your rank currently? And who did you trade, if you do remember off the top of your head?
00:01:49
Chris
yeah yeah look i saw green arrows this week i scored 12 33 and i went up 128 spots to uh 937 so i'm finally back in the top 1k for the first time since round 11.
00:02:01
Tackles and Tinnies
Yep.
00:02:02
Chris
uh we've two trades remaining um most people my score this week was a bit of a what if you know and it was a mark by some of the sitting sitting starts that i got wrong like we just talked just then i didn't play adam dewey for 105 and i also didn't play joey taps who for some reason just played 67 minutes all of a sudden, and then he scored 75 as well.
00:02:20
Chris
But no, I traded Jerome Hughes out for Cleary and I captained him 406.
00:02:21
Tackles and Tinnies
yeah
00:02:26
Chris
So, you know, overall, can't complain. Yeah. What about yourself?
00:02:30
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah. Mate, it was an interesting pod Adam him last week. I had absolutely no intentions of pulling the trigger on Reece Walsh, but tackles and tinnies, I did it.
00:02:42
Tackles and Tinnies
And I actually, I've come back. I've come back to life. I was so de depressed two weeks ago when I missed out on Dylan Edwards. But Adam, the the king of super coach and his super coach council that he's in, he told me to put an armband on Reece Walsh.
00:02:56
Chris
Thank you.
00:02:58
Tackles and Tinnies
Then I put it in into you boys in the chat and I was like, boys, do I Captain Walsh? And then all you guys, all you did was got the South Park meet of Randy Marsh with the wheelbarrow and the big testies going around, just going carding up. I'm like, it's big ball energy and I like it.
00:03:15
Tackles and Tinnies
So I'm like, screw it. I need to make a difference. I need to get some vibes going. So I decided to put the captaincy on Reece Walsh and he absolutely popped off. And I was yahu-ing in bed really silently because Laura was asleep next to me. And then he got that really late try and I couldn't hold it.
00:03:31
Tackles and Tinnies
Couldn't hold I was just yelled up in the air. was like, let's go, son. Let's go. and then Laura was like, what's happened? like, Reece Walsh just scored. He's on 140. And forty she's like, shut up, Ryan. really annoying. Yeah.
00:03:43
Chris
Nah, well deserved.
00:03:44
Tackles and Tinnies
But yeah, I'm back. The morale is back.
00:03:49
Chris
yeah
00:03:49
Tackles and Tinnies
The vibes are back.
00:03:49
Chris
yeah
00:03:50
Tackles and Tinnies
The trades are down, but the vibes are back. so But they were short-lived and we'll talk about the Tide and soon, but my God, that was very frustrating.
00:04:01
Tackles and Tinnies
But I actually scored well and I am in the top 1% as well. So Chris, we made it. We're back. Yeah. I got out of there.
00:04:12
Tackles and Tinnies
I was i was sad, but now the morale is back.
00:04:13
Chris
Thank you.
00:04:15
Tackles and Tinnies
Walshie captaincy, top 1%. I scored 1,331. Your boy is on the rise. I'm currently ranked 2,556, but the trades, the trades is a big dilemma. And my boy, Herbie Farmworth, he was on 71 points after 20 bloody minutes. I told you he's a VC every single week.
00:04:37
Tackles and Tinnies
Mate, he was going for 170. What are your thoughts on Herbie getting ah shot by a sniper rifle in the field?
00:04:43
Chris
Oh, look, I'm just, can I be honest? I never i never wish bad on people, but I'm so relieved. It's been it's such a hard watch not not owning him, you know? Yeah. yeah
00:04:56
Tackles and Tinnies
could imagine.
00:04:57
Chris
Yeah. Yeah. like i was I was on the plane and I was about to take off and, and yeah, I was like, I've got to turn this off either way. But I was like, I don't i don't i think I cannot can, I can't even watch until a flight mode.
00:05:09
Chris
Yeah. It was hard. Yeah. Yeah.
00:05:11
Tackles and Tinnies
Bro, he just looks so good. And he's literally got that aura now that he just goes on the field and every time he walks he's like, I am the best attacking player or best running player of the ball on the field.
00:05:24
Tackles and Tinnies
Good luck tackling.
00:05:24
Chris
Oh yeah.
00:05:26
Chris
I honestly thought like when he wasn't like literally, yeah, 71 after like 15 minutes, I thought he was gonna just break Tommy Turbo's record. Like I was like, he's gonna score like 250.
00:05:33
Tackles and Tinnies
Literally.
00:05:35
Chris
Like, yeah, yeah.
00:05:36
Tackles and Tinnies
And that 71 actually doesn't reflect because he tore the hammy and then he sort of like got shot by the sniper, obviously, and he had to like sort of stumble another six metres. But Hammer was literally on his hip.
00:05:47
Tackles and Tinnies
And as we know, good luck Hammer in open space. So he could have literally gone to 100 points close to after that one play.
00:05:51
Chris
Yeah. with a tri-assist, yeah.
00:05:53
Tackles and Tinnies
So, mate. But, yeah, Herbie Farmworth, I think that's probably the first talking point. Everyone's got him. I'm looking right now on Supercoach and about 41% of all Supercoaches have traded out Herbie Farnwood. 18,384 people currently as of Tuesday night at 6.45 have traded out Herbie Farnwood.
00:06:18
Tackles and Tinnies
Obviously he's like $140,000. So you can pretty much go sideways or downgrade to anyone. Do you hold, do you trade? What's the go?
00:06:30
Chris
Yeah, yeah, no, I think yeah the first we need to talk about is, you know, placing Herbie. You know, look, as you said, you can obviously switch him to any CTW that you want in the game. But trades are never about context. So, like, I'll preface by saying, Brian, that if you have more than four trades remaining, then I'd say just trade Herbie immediately.
00:06:49
Chris
But if you've only got one or two trades left then and you have a playable 18 this week, You can still trade him, but I think you can't do it without thinking whether you can hold on to him at least for another week.
00:07:01
Chris
Like the last thing you want to do to happen is to jump onto another CTW and then that player gets injured. Like, you know, with the injury carnage this season, like it's a real possibility. You know, you just ask the, you know, the 0.8% of teams who got him in last week.
00:07:19
Chris
Like, I think the good thing is that his 840K won't change in value.
00:07:19
Tackles and Tinnies
yeah
00:07:24
Chris
So you can still you can still train him out later on. Yeah. And I'd say just wait and see how your team goes this week first before you move him on is what i I'd say.
00:07:28
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah.
00:07:37
Chris
Yeah.
00:07:38
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah. I totally second that motion. I think it's really important to our think about if you have the numbers. So I'm the prime example. I have one trade left.
00:07:49
Tackles and Tinnies
so which he just mentioned. I currently have 18 players exactly with enough center wings to cover the absence of him and my boy Lawson. ha
00:07:59
Chris
like back
00:08:01
Tackles and Tinnies
He's coming back. a I'm just going to hold him because I don't like the matchups currently.
00:08:06
Chris
Thank you.
00:08:06
Tackles and Tinnies
like Obviously, there's guys like Dane Gagai or Timoko. So Gagai's got the Panthers, not the best matchup. Timoko... Decent matchup against Manly. However, they've obviously got the bye coming up and I've literally haven't got enough bodies, assuming Tino doesn't come back on time.
00:08:25
Tackles and Tinnies
You've got absolute second in charge of all the two ICIs, I like to say, for Rocks and Diamonds, being Ronaldo and Mouletalo. The number one numero is Rhys Walsh and he popped it off, thank God.
00:08:37
Tackles and Tinnies
But yeah, the two IC Ronaldo and three IC is Camper Al. So there's your tier, there's your hierarchy. But yeah, Ronaldo, not the best.
00:08:47
Tackles and Tinnies
So I don't know. There's no one really standing out to me this week if you can field enough people. Thoughts on that?
00:08:56
Chris
Yeah, yeah, I see what you're saying. I should also just note that you're saying this, I think, because you have Zach Lomax. Yeah. So i would I would say for everybody, he's he's the second most traded and in the top 10% this week, and he's 741K.
00:09:13
Chris
And I think that's a really obvious swap. Like, I think he scored, was it 41 against the Storm last week?
00:09:16
Tackles and Tinnies
yeah
00:09:20
Tackles and Tinnies
Yep. Yep.
00:09:20
Chris
Which I think is pretty unst understandable, you know, against that that very strong left-hand side Storm defence.
00:09:26
Chris
But he plays North Queensland, and then plays Souths in the next games, who concede the most points as a team. and also the equal most points to centre wings at 0.8 points per minute PPM.
00:09:40
Chris
I reckon you should jump on him because, like, if Paragas keep feeding him tries and he resurrects his goal kicking, then he could be on for successive times next two weeks, really.
00:09:48
Tackles and Tinnies
ye
00:09:50
Chris
I differ with you on Dane Gagli, only because the Titans played Penrith last week and AJ Brimson scored 117.
00:10:02
Chris
So I don't think that think that if you're a fullback and you're playing Penrith, don't think you should be scared. Yeah. And so therefore, as a result, I don't have an issue with people trading in game game guy this week as well. he And obviously he's actually number one traded in this week. And I guess that's also because most people already have low max.
00:10:21
Chris
Like it turns out, yeah, because yeah, this this last free game week, game average, he scored 96. Yeah, so it turns out, yeah, Gagai turns into Origin Dane also when he puts on the fullback costume and not just the Queensland shirt.
00:10:27
Tackles and Tinnies
yeah
00:10:34
Chris
Yeah. um And, yeah, look, he's up base and power. He's actually 64, which is even better than Lomax's in the last three weeks, which is 58. and i And I think that if Lomax is on team and you have the trades, I reckon can you you go Herbie to Gagai this week.
00:10:42
Tackles and Tinnies
well
00:10:48
Chris
Yeah, before he just goes even high and becomes 700 plus. Yeah. yeah
00:10:54
Tackles and Tinnies
Can't do it. Can't do it on one trade. He gets the ball and he's almost like walking wounded every single time. The only thing I will say with Gagai versus Brimson, I'm not emotionally ready to talk about the Titans yet because I was devastating.
00:11:08
Tackles and Tinnies
But Brimson's very, very explosive. I think that's sort of the way he was like breaking the line. Gagai doesn't really have that in his game.
00:11:18
Tackles and Tinnies
or not in more recent years. He sort of lost a half a step, which is nothing wrong with that. He's very methodical and powerful in what he does in his own right.
00:11:26
Chris
Thank you.
00:11:27
Tackles and Tinnies
But I think the Panthers obviously rocked up into CBUS looking to a definitive win. But if we look at Gagai's next couple of games, so obviously they've got the Panthers currently, but then we're looking towards the Cowboys, the Broncos, the Sharks and Parramatta Ears. So definitely some juicy matchups there. And,
00:11:47
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah, I think the Knights obviously got Brabham Best back this week as well. So another strike weapon. That's pretty good. So Gagai is good, but... If everyone's getting Gagai in, you're sort of in that ranking between, let's say, yourself and who's in the top 1K, and then you've got someone up in like maybe 8,000.
00:12:06
Tackles and Tinnies
There's not going to be more than like 500, 600 points between all of us. You're probably going to look at some more pods. And I think recency bias is a hard one to say.
00:12:17
Tackles and Tinnies
But Katoni Staggs in the past couple of weeks, my God, he's looking good. and What are your thoughts on Katoni Staggs?
00:12:24
Chris
Yeah. Yeah. Like Tony, he's a, he's like less than 1% owned in the top 10%. Yeah. I think, I think we're, I think you bring him up admittedly because the Broncos just smashed Souths.
00:12:36
Chris
I think he's too real attack reliant and you know, he's got to come up against Melbourne twice. And know again, against that left-hand side defense, The same thing as Zach Lomax. i I think you can get him if you want, by by all means, but I don't think he's <unk>s the answer. You know, he's not goal kicking either. I have this issue often, again, with center wings who don't goal kick as well. I think you should avoid him immediately. But if you like him, 100% go him.
00:13:02
Chris
For what it's worth, I think Gagai is actually less than 30% owned, actually, in the top 1%.
00:13:02
Tackles and Tinnies
yeah
00:13:06
Chris
And even the... I think he might be a little bit more owned in the in the top 10. But, yeah, he's actually bit of a pod still in in the top 1%. Yeah. yeah
00:13:14
Tackles and Tinnies
I think after obviously teamless Tuesday, which is just coming out a couple of hours ago, that could change surely. again, people like myself who are long trades, Chris, and i get obviously the Herbie Farmworth, he's the guy. If you're go to you going to trade him, he's going to go out.
00:13:29
Tackles and Tinnies
Potentially could be back around twenty seven
00:13:29
Chris
Yeah. Yes.
00:13:32
Chris
yes
00:13:32
Tackles and Tinnies
If the Dolphins are still in, some I'm praying that happens. But you could also look at a guy like Beau Fermor as well.
00:13:42
Tackles and Tinnies
So again, he has a, the Titans have sort of found some life. And again, I'm overly optimistic being a biased Titans member. But if you've got my boy Kane Bradley in the second row, you've got that dual position switch, and again, which can be quite handy as well.
00:13:59
Tackles and Tinnies
Would you go a guy like Beau Furman with that center wing dual 2RF, or would you, again, just look for that out-and-out hoping that gay guy can hold out for the rest of the season?
00:14:09
Chris
Yeah, look, I think Bo is actually a really interesting one, you know, because his base and power has been great this season. It's been 60. He's been having 60, you know, like you said, you know, the the the Titans are coming into, you know, are coming back to life and they're running into a fairly okay draw.
00:14:27
Chris
And as a result, he can jag a try and because of that dual status... That's the important bit because if a forward goes down, all of a sudden you don't have to buy another forward.
00:14:30
Tackles and Tinnies
Yep. Yep.
00:14:35
Chris
You just move him off to 2RF and then you just pick up yet another high ceiling CTW. you know I think if you're keeping Herbie this week, and but you're looking to replace Lucas and Keyon, I reckon you'll get him.
00:14:48
Chris
I don't if think he outscores Gagai at all. Just for food for Ford as well, our co-host Adam, he fought about... Beau Furmore. So if he thinks about both like expect someone, you know, and you want buy him, you're probably on the right track.
00:15:01
Chris
Yeah.
00:15:03
Tackles and Tinnies
Now, if we're talking CTWs, mate, and again, we do love a duel here on Tackles and Tinnies, especially our boy, Jakey, who's currently potentially actually in a hole in New Zealand.
00:15:16
Tackles and Tinnies
Tane Tuapiki. So Adam the scumbag always finds a juicy pickup in draft. Picked him up this last week and he absolutely popped off. Fullback center wing jewel with Nicole Cloxted moving to the centers.
00:15:29
Tackles and Tinnies
What your thoughts on Tuapiki? Again, a fullback in the center wing positions, always spicy. AJ Brimson-esque. What are your thoughts on that?
00:15:39
Chris
Yeah, you know what, Ryan? I hadn't considered Tuapiki, actually. Like, I know he's been, like, you know, was also, like, yeah. I was really disappointed when yeah Adam picked him up last week in in draft because I wanted to pick him up as well. like Funnily enough, I think it actually might be a bad idea because I'll go to tour peak in just a moment, but most people are looking at ah ah Roger Tourbiles-Lashek at the moment, you know, from from New Zealand.
00:16:01
Tackles and Tinnies
Yes.
00:16:03
Chris
And I think Taylor is not a bad idea. The issue is that it's a concern if he picks up an HIA because he is a smaller body. You know, do you want to w risk that? It's a little bit like Wade Egan.
00:16:15
Chris
you know do you want to w risk that but he racks up you know tap you know tap tries he tap racks up uh tackle busts like little bit like teddy actually and i actually don't think he's a bad idea i don't know what he's owned at the moment the top 10 but i would say yeah if you want to go to biggie or you can go or you can also go rts if you want really they've got it they run into a pretty good draw i think uh they're bulldogs uh dragons And then Gold Coast, Para, and then finished with Manly. So it's not a bad.
00:16:45
Chris
that That round 24, 25, 26 is pretty good. Yeah. And also obviously for for for draft as well or H-H, head-to-head finals. Yeah. Many of the New Zealand backs are good.
00:16:54
Tackles and Tinnies
yeah
00:16:57
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah. So again, he's centering fullback jewel at 510,000. If you don't get him this week, you want to watch him another round at fullback, against the Bulldogs. Obviously they're a decent defensive team.
00:17:09
Tackles and Tinnies
Um, not against the ah juggernaut Tigers team, but you can probably wait a week if cash is somewhat an issue, but again, the downgrade for Herbie, you're saving, pardon me, $250,000 there. enticing.
00:17:22
Tackles and Tinnies
that's quite enticing And again, he he's dynamic. He's very much like Keanu Keeney in a lot of ways as well, the way he plays. So definitely an attacking weapon. I do love Clockstead and RTS on that one side as well.
00:17:38
Tackles and Tinnies
which is pretty good. So then you got, mate, if you don't get them this week, hear me out here, round 24, Dragons, Titans, Parra, Manly. I mean, tell you what, mate, that is spicy.
00:17:50
Tackles and Tinnies
That's one of the best draws left in the If I ah don't get them this week, I'm very enticed to get them next week for Herbie.
00:17:59
Chris
Yeah, actually, yeah, no, and also that Keanu Kinney and comparisons actually very apt. Yeah, similar type body players. Yeah, yeah, very explosive.
00:18:07
Tackles and Tinnies
Hmm.
00:18:10
Tackles and Tinnies
Now, again, there's boys left, right, and center who are falling over and aren't holding. the Yeah, they're falling over. They're damaged.
00:18:21
Tackles and Tinnies
They're really struggling to get back on the paddock, and Payne Haas is one of them. He's the past probably the past, what, six weeks getting those lower back injuries. Then he had the infection he couldn't get over. I know you guys are talking the group chat about paying high, so coming back into the team, what are your thoughts? Would you pull the trigger this week or would you wait another week to see how that that backslash infection is going?
00:18:44
Chris
yeah look i i whether you get harsin i i said to you two weeks on the pod i think he's a buy and i i still stand by that where you however it's like what you said he could be injured and and if you bind this week you know like and and then he goes down we get another issue then then you feel like and he scores 55 then like you did two weeks ago and you just
00:18:53
Tackles and Tinnies
Yep.
00:19:09
Chris
tinged with regret, if that makes sense. But, you know at some point he'll he'll have to come good, you know, so you can wait until you want, until he comes good and then buy when he shows signs of life.
00:19:22
Chris
But I'm of the opinion that you should buy him. But there are certain cases, the one that you and I talk, you're talking referential is Adam who doesn't have pain hearts.
00:19:35
Chris
but everybody else in the top 10, yeah. So our co-host Adam is coming seventh or eighth overall.
00:19:40
Tackles and Tinnies
Eighth, yep.
00:19:42
Chris
Eighth, yeah. The other eight, nine guys all own Payne Haas. And so at the moment, and you know,
00:19:50
Chris
having pain, if he scores on a 55, that's just, yeah, that's just not great, you know, and you're better off, you know, AFB just scored 88 and Adam has AFB, so, you know, it's a good pod in many ways, and so therefore you want to differenti differentiate yourself, but for the average player, like yourself and myself, Ryan, yeah, get him 100%, it's a good player, yeah.
00:20:12
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah. Like Melbourne Storm this week, decent four-pack. Dolphins next week would be very spicy. We've had Decimate there up front. Newcastle, similar thing.
00:20:23
Tackles and Tinnies
North Queensland, very similar thing. So if you're waiting one more week, huge break even. and Obviously, he's got to break even to 133. But that three-week one before that round 27,
00:20:34
Tackles and Tinnies
which they're probably going to rest him if they can't get to that top four position against Melbourne Storm. I think, yeah, he's only got – this is probably the most fresh he's going to be due to the fact that his body's had two weeks off.
00:20:47
Tackles and Tinnies
Yes, he had the infection. Yes, he was sick. But in terms of like musculoskeletal, he should feel fresher, that makes sense.
00:20:47
Chris
Yeah.
00:20:56
Chris
Yeah, no, no, that that that actually makes sense. Yeah. I think I might tell Adam to go get it.
00:21:03
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah. Well, especially, like, my concern is, mate, like, you got Terrell May. He's on the bye this week. And, obviously, Haas, May, they're your one-two punch.
00:21:09
Chris
Yes.
00:21:12
Tackles and Tinnies
Keon's down. Tino's down. And they're your other probably top five or top six boys. And then Aaron Clark's the other one. So, obviously, AFB is in the mix, definitely in, like, the top seven players for sure.
00:21:26
Tackles and Tinnies
So, if you're on AFB, Aaron Clark, yeah, fair enough. But i think anti-potting, Payne Haas, for a majority of players, and even in Adam's situation being the top 10, I think you have to go on this week.
00:21:40
Tackles and Tinnies
I just, I think against Melbourne Storm, he's just going to want to rip in and just, again, Broncos have so much to play for. And, I just don't see him not having a good game.
00:21:52
Tackles and Tinnies
I've just got that vibe. You know, you've got that feeling, you've got that gut instinct where it's like, this is the Broncos time.
00:21:54
Chris
Yeah.
00:21:57
Tackles and Tinnies
They're sort of turning a corner. Boys are coming back. Ben Hunt's got another round underneath his belt at Hooker. Obviously losing. And I think also big thing to note, Xavier Willison went down, which means Payne Haas minutes are probably going up.
00:22:14
Tackles and Tinnies
So another big hurdle there. I think that's another tick in the box for Payne Haas. does that change your thought if people were trying to wait one week because melbourne storm
00:22:14
Chris
yeahp
00:22:25
Chris
Yeah, it's, yeah, hi like, the frustrating thing I find about about these big games, like you think that these players should play, you know, big minutes, like halves probably will, but then, you know, when you're versing quality opposition, sometimes you just, the the frustrating thing is that you put away, you know, for example, offload, you don't have many tackle breaks, sorry, tackle busts.
00:22:44
Tackles and Tinnies
hmm
00:22:48
Chris
And sure, you you play more minutes, yeah you tackle 30, you make 30 tackles, and you make 30 hit ups, you know, but then you just get 60 in base power. Do you what I'm saying?
00:22:58
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah.
00:22:58
Chris
And they do play like 65 minutes, you know.
00:23:00
Chris
The question is, will we have to jack a try or have a try assist, you know, and have a whole bunch of tackle busts? And against a quick Melbourne defence, it may or may not. So that's why, you know, and traditionally, you know, the Melbourne defence has been very, very strong, very, very good against front row forwards as well. so So I think it's also, it's one of those ones that flip a coin.
00:23:20
Chris
And that's why I don't have an issue with you saying, you know, oh, I think it's a vibe. Like, is it, hey, I've just got this feeling, you know, that he's going to go massive.
00:23:24
Tackles and Tinnies
yeah
00:23:26
Chris
And so if you think he's going to go massive, then you just jump on him, you know, but I agree with you that you should be going on him if you can. But the only reason is just in extenuating circumstances where, you know, you're really trying to differentiate yourself, you know, H to H or, you know, you're in that top 10%, that top 10, just like Adam, and you're going for that road to the tax
00:23:32
Tackles and Tinnies
yeah
00:23:34
Tackles and Tinnies
yeah
00:23:42
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah, yeah, 100%.
00:23:44
Chris
tax for
00:23:46
Tackles and Tinnies
And I think also, like, obviously, head-to-head finals are starting as well. We're quite lucky, Chris. We're both in the top four for our local league because, you know, Tackles and the Tinnies podcast, as we know what we're talking about. second chance is going to be very handy with all these injuries.
00:24:00
Tackles and Tinnies
But, yeah, if you're in a head-to-head finals too, guys, like, you should be getting Payne Haas in. Like he he's that guy, regardless if he's playing at 80%, which he very well could be.
00:24:11
Tackles and Tinnies
He could be at 90, he could be at 100. I don't know, I haven't talked to him. But I would feel safer playing him than I would be playing Aaron Clark.
00:24:20
Tackles and Tinnies
I'd feel safer playing him than I would be playing like, I don't know, whosoever's left, AFB. Honestly, I'd feel safer playing Payne House over AFB. So it's like, If you're not in the top four for your head-to-head finals as well, especially if they're cash leagues, which a lot of people do cashies, I think you have to get them in. Like, that's another reason to get them in.
00:24:20
Chris
Yeah.
00:24:41
Tackles and Tinnies
Thoughts?
00:24:41
Chris
yeah
00:24:42
Chris
Did you just say he's could be 80 or 90% you don't know because you haven't talked to him? Can you, if that's the case, can you just go talk to them then and then let us all know? Yeah.
00:24:53
Tackles and Tinnies
I'll go down the, I'll go on the congestion of the M1, mate, and I'll just go straight up to Brizzy.
00:24:54
Chris
okay
00:24:58
Tackles and Tinnies
I'll go to the stadium, get my megaphone out. Oh, we're paying Haas, good,
00:25:02
Chris
you
00:25:07
Tackles and Tinnies
Now, so we talked about Haas, we talked about Herbie. Now, i would also like to talk about Tommy Turbo. Okay. Have you held him? I can't remember.
00:25:19
Chris
No, I sold him like weeks and weeks ago.
00:25:20
Tackles and Tinnies
yeah.
00:25:21
Tackles and Tinnies
So it must be Jake. So Jake and I, my boy, Tommy Turbo, he's back to fullback.
00:25:22
Chris
Yeah.
00:25:23
Chris
Yeah. Yeah.
00:25:28
Tackles and Tinnies
Okay, Lehigh's out.
00:25:29
Chris
ye
00:25:30
Tackles and Tinnies
I'm loving it. but I'm on the Turbo train, mate. I tell you what, I could go full vibes and chuck an arm band on.
00:25:37
Tackles and Tinnies
That's how much vibe I'm feeling.
00:25:37
Chris
yeah
00:25:39
Chris
yeah
00:25:39
Tackles and Tinnies
What are your thoughts on Tommy Turbo? He's a bit of a pod. I think he's about 10% owned still. Would you, it might be a little bit more, maybe in the top 10% anyway, but what are thoughts on Tommy Turbo?
00:25:51
Chris
Oh, you know my thoughts on Tommy Turbo. I love him. Yeah, I love him so much. Yeah, no, i yeah he's he's he's still cheap. He's 657K.
00:26:02
Chris
You know, since he moved to right-center, I know he's had a four-game average 82.
00:26:05
Tackles and Tinnies
Thank you.
00:26:07
Chris
That being said, that's that 134 that he had against Bunnies as well. And, you know, last week he looked really good when he played at fullback in the second half, you know, and now he's back there permanently.
00:26:18
Chris
don't know, man. Right. I... I always get sucked in by Tommy. Like, I, I reckon, yes. I reckon yes. Because he plays, he plays West Tigers in two weeks time and he plays St George at some point, you know, like, and wants play the Finns, you and New Zealand. Like, yeah, he could, you know, part of me thinks like they've, like the manly attackers, you know, last week they scored four points.
00:26:46
Chris
It was pretty atrocious, you know, like,
00:26:46
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah.
00:26:49
Chris
You know, and you're and I guess in many ways you're just praying that he pulls them out of funk. But I think he could also wait. You know, i think he plays Canberra this week. You know, GAO, that's always a hard task, you know, to go big.
00:26:59
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah.
00:27:00
Chris
You know, if he goes big, then you go, okay, let's let's sell someone to a to Tommy.
00:27:04
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah.
00:27:06
Chris
Yeah. But...
00:27:07
Tackles and Tinnies
Well, think that's the biggest issue, isn't it? That Raiders matchup is just not desirable whatsoever. Like, ah ah especially at GIO. But as you mentioned, mate, West Tigers, Fins, Dragons, Waz, mate, for those last four games, assuming that he's gung-ho, ready to go 100%, I would trade Tedesco to get him, honestly.
00:27:30
Tackles and Tinnies
Like, I just got that feeling, again, pod move, because, again, you've got to make that differentiation. I think he could be the one that just flies him home or tries to push him in that top eight position.
00:27:43
Chris
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's something that I've been pondering as well myself because, you know, Teddy's just literally fallen off the cliff since ah Sam Walker's come back. And, you know, I haven't watched many of the Roosters game. I know last week, you know, because of all that rain, you know, he was just slipping and sliding. He couldn't hold.
00:27:57
Chris
He couldn't, you know, he couldn't keep the Stanley's 2B. But, yeah, r I reckon you could totally trade Teddy to Tom or Edwards or Walsh for that matter.
00:28:04
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah.
00:28:06
Chris
know it's just do you have to trade really yeah and speaking of teddy i could also say you probably could also trade him to some of the halfbacks you know isaiah katoa he now has goal kicking he's been averaging 65 all year but that should go up now because uh jermaine asaka he has a groin injury you know well you could just sell him you know his counterpart uh sam walker he's been averaging like 72 he's like free game average of 80
00:28:08
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah.
00:28:24
Tackles and Tinnies
The groin is. Yeah.
00:28:34
Chris
I like both, really. Yeah.
00:28:35
Tackles and Tinnies
yep
00:28:36
Chris
Yeah. But you could also, if you like, if you think Teddy, because the one thing is that if you sell Teddy, he plays the Rabideaus in round 27.
00:28:37
Tackles and Tinnies
yeah
00:28:47
Chris
You may trade him and you may not be able to get him back at the end. And especially you drink water as well. also doesn't play around 27 as well.
00:28:52
Tackles and Tinnies
yep
00:28:53
Chris
So yeah. So you're kind of you're losing two halfbacks in a way, but I guess you're getting one half. but it's just a really really good
00:28:58
Tackles and Tinnies
yeah
00:29:00
Chris
that final game, like Teddy could go massive. That's one reason why you might want to think about holding Teddy. It's supposed to sell on the pitch, you don't have any trades left.
00:29:05
Tackles and Tinnies
yeah
00:29:07
Tackles and Tinnies
Yep. Now, Scotty Drinkwater, not good. So happy I faded, just putting that out there. Would you get rid of him now? Like, I don't know. i think there's just other fullbacks who in much better form. And again, we just talked about Tedesco, talked about Turbo.
00:29:26
Tackles and Tinnies
But if you had to rank your top three fullbacks right now based off form, I think it'd be Edwards. I think it's Walshie obviously has the upside with the Broncos now fully fit.
00:29:37
Tackles and Tinnies
And then I'd probably say Turbo would be in there as well, just due to the fact that he's just a gun. What are your thoughts?
00:29:47
Tackles and Tinnies
Especially with round 27. Yeah.
00:29:47
Chris
Yeah.
00:29:49
Chris
Yeah. ah Look, i I'd be tempted to hold him for the moment only because he plays Paradis week and then Newcastle and then Tigers. you know these You know, these are the bottom teams at end the day, really. And And I would say the reason, another reason why i want to hold him, like, is because if you're thinking about trading Teddy out, then you're just wasting another trade on getting another fullback.
00:30:14
Chris
And I would say that you want to wait maybe until next week as well when the trail might be back. Because if you didn't realise he's been named on the extended bench for the Bunnies this week.
00:30:27
Tackles and Tinnies
Oh, mate, he's playing. He's definitely playing, I reckon.
00:30:29
Chris
Oh, he's definitely playing. just sucks.
00:30:30
Tackles and Tinnies
I can't say definitely, obviously, but if he's named on the extended bench, typical bloody Gold Coast Titans going to get screwed over, but love to see it.
00:30:31
Chris
Yep. yeah
00:30:40
Tackles and Tinnies
Love to see Latrell play, but I reckon he's going to play. Like, why put him on the extended bench?
00:30:47
Tackles and Tinnies
What does that get out of him?
00:30:47
Chris
Yeah.
00:30:48
Tackles and Tinnies
Like, if he's ready, he's ready.
00:30:48
Chris
Yeah.
00:30:51
Chris
Yeah. And then, yeah, if because if you can get Havlachro playing, they also a pretty good draw. They they have a buy-in round 26, but you want to see him come back this week, probably, and because then he plays Eels and Dragons the next two games.
00:31:08
Chris
So... it may be worth getting him instead as a pod as opposed to turbo. Yeah.
00:31:13
Tackles and Tinnies
But could you – it's so hard to get Luttrell because, again, we do have to think about head-to-head finals if you've made the head-to-head final, which is another variable as well.
00:31:25
Tackles and Tinnies
You might be killing it in overall, but for some reason you haven't made your head-to-head finals or you get knocked out in round 25 or whatever. Round 24, it doesn't matter. Yeah, it's hard because you've got to consider that round 26 bye.
00:31:38
Tackles and Tinnies
But, again, great pod, great pod.
00:31:39
Chris
Yeah.
00:31:42
Chris
ye Well, I mean, do you have to ask yourself, you know, do you think that Latrell will score more in two games against Power and St. George ah ah versus drinking three games against Power and in the other two teams, which I forgot it.
00:32:01
Tackles and Tinnies
Man, Cab was a dog shit, eh? They're so bad.
00:32:04
Chris
And then he didn't goal kick as well last week as well. Like even right in front of the sticks. I was like, oh, man. Drinky what you're doing, but he's my favorite player.
00:32:12
Tackles and Tinnies
So bad.
00:32:14
Chris
You're going to live by Drinky and you've got to die by Stinky.
00:32:15
Tackles and Tinnies
Hmm.
00:32:17
Chris
You know, he a Stinky last week. Hopefully he's back to Drinky. Yeah.
00:32:21
Tackles and Tinnies
Oh, Chris, I think I'm ah ah emotionally ready. I'm ready to talk about the Gold Coast Titans. So as everyone knows, I'm a member and it was Randall, it was Sam, it was myself and about 1000 Gold Coast Titan supporters and 17,000 Panther supporters all in the bandwagon, obviously.
00:32:42
Tackles and Tinnies
And it was an emotional first 20 minutes. Okay. It was like, we have a chance. No one scored. The defenses are doing really, really good. And then literally like 22nd minute, bang, Panther scored. I'm like, oh no, it's happening.
00:32:57
Tackles and Tinnies
Bang. Another try, another try, another try, four tries in 20 minutes. I'm like, God Coast Titans. Not surprised. Not surprised. 24 nil down. We look so good in the first 20 minutes. We can't a full half. Typical Gold Coast.
00:33:11
Tackles and Tinnies
And I don't know what Dez Hasler did, but he's pulled something out of his ass and he did a like one of the best sprays of all time because they came out in the second half and they were completely different team. They looked like a bloody top four team in the second half.
00:33:26
Tackles and Tinnies
And... It was so good to see, obviously, when Targo did the illegal move, they scored three tries in 10 minutes, and there should have been another try, and I don't know, no, it was near the end of the game.
00:33:38
Tackles and Tinnies
So they eventually got it back up, Jaden Campbell, Brimson, were spearheading this attacking flow. But Philip Samy in the corner, and okay, you got the head high tackle, going for the try scoring situation. Brian Toto, one, didn't get sent off.
00:33:56
Tackles and Tinnies
Two, didn't get the penalty try, like double whammy bullshit, whatever. And then we have a look with the the water boy situation.
00:34:05
Tackles and Tinnies
Now, Chris... I was literally almost in line with Jaden Campbell. So if you were to look at the goal point, like imagine you're sitting in the stadium and I look to my left, I'm in line with Jaden Campbell. I just had the best view of like him about to kick the goal.
00:34:19
Tackles and Tinnies
And then all I see about, so I'm at row nine, I'm right in front of the Titans bench as well, don't get me wrong. So the water boy just literally runs in front of Campbell and then the whole Gold Coast Titans bench, the whole stadium, even Panthers supporters, like, what the hell just happened? I have no idea what's happening.
00:34:39
Tackles and Tinnies
And the guy's like, yeah, puts his hand up, whatever. Everyone knows the story. know But the bench, where the Titans bench, blowing up, absolutely blowing up. And I don't think that was on TV.
00:34:50
Tackles and Tinnies
And I think that was a good perspective to tell because – we all know that's not the right thing to do. And obviously this in like NL 360, a couple of other podcasts, whatever people have different opinions on the penalty on how it should have been and how it should have been handled.
00:35:06
Tackles and Tinnies
My perspective is that at a minimum, he should have got re-kick, like have your kick. If you miss, you go again. Option two, you have an eight points. So like you have your kick and then you go to the front of the post or option three, just take the penalty in front of the post.
00:35:24
Tackles and Tinnies
But really you can't say definitively that the times would have won that game, obviously. But I think if the and NRL want to make a hard statement, which they did, they gave $50,000, but I tell you what, Penrith Panthers Leagues Club would probably make that in one night.
00:35:41
Tackles and Tinnies
So that's whatever. And then they should get stripped of two competition points. What are your thoughts on that?
00:35:48
Chris
Yeah, look, I stand and we i stand with the titties.
00:35:51
Tackles and Tinnies
lot to dodge, yeah.
00:35:55
Tackles and Tinnies
Yes, I changed. Good boy.
00:35:56
Chris
Look, look, Tarnas are completely hard done by, you know, it's like you said, the, you know, the Toto high, you know, high shot on Philip Sarmi, that was, that would have been a try any day of the week and then they would have been after, oh, like it's, you guys are absolutely robbed, like.
00:36:11
Chris
I can't say as to, you know, like as to, you know, what the penalty should technically be, you know, in that time. But, you know, i like 50,000, I think i think a good question to ask is what does a win equate to financially for every team?
00:36:25
Tackles and Tinnies
yeah
00:36:27
Tackles and Tinnies
saying
00:36:27
Chris
Is it 50,000?
00:36:28
Chris
Because if it's 50,000, I would do this again next week. if If this same scenario happened with any other team, I would literally just get anybody, water boy just get them to walk walk out in front of them.
00:36:32
Tackles and Tinnies
umm
00:36:40
Chris
You know, because it's worth the 50,000, you know I'm saying? You know, like,
00:36:42
Tackles and Tinnies
Especially for that particular situation where the Panthers are fighting for top four.
00:36:45
Chris
yeah
00:36:49
Chris
ye
00:36:49
Tackles and Tinnies
fine if it tough fault And the Broncos are right, snipping at their heels, okay?
00:36:50
Chris
yeah.
00:36:54
Tackles and Tinnies
Warriors are right there as well. But it's worth it. 100% it's worth it.
00:36:59
Chris
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. If they make top four, they lose in the first round and then they win the finals. win the actual premiership again. How much the premiership worth? Like, what, $4 million dollars per year? I'm just making these numbers up.
00:37:10
Chris
I don't know how much it is.
00:37:10
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah, goes.
00:37:11
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah.
00:37:12
Chris
You know, like, it's totally worth it.
00:37:14
Chris
Yeah, I agree with you. I think that the NRL has to come out with, like, a really hard stance. Like, either they have to do, like, a real hard black rule, all trainers are banned, or you have to make an example of Penrith. Like, and you have to just ban them from having, for the next four rounds, they're not allowed to have any he trainers at all to make sure.
00:37:30
Tackles and Tinnies
Wow, that's a wild take. haven't heard that one.
00:37:32
Tackles and Tinnies
That's wild.
00:37:32
Chris
Yeah.
00:37:33
Chris
No, because I think you have to, like, I think you have to do almost a little bit like, you know when they were doing too many high tackles, like in, was it round seven or round eight and everybody literally got synced and everyone was like this is crazy.
00:37:38
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
00:37:43
Chris
But guess what? People aren't high tackling anymore. You know, somebody has to strong that ridiculous message that's way over top, that's disproportionate.
00:37:45
Tackles and Tinnies
True.
00:37:50
Chris
That's what I think really. But I don't think you can take away the points because if he kicks it, if Jaden Campbell kicks it, then, you know, we're not talking about this necessarily.
00:37:51
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah.
00:38:00
Tackles and Tinnies
True.
00:38:01
Chris
Yeah.
00:38:02
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah. i It's just, yeah, I totally agree, Chris. I think it just has to be like $50,000 for a powerhouse club and a five-match ban for a fucking water boy.
00:38:15
Tackles and Tinnies
Like, I mean, come on.
00:38:15
Chris
yeah
00:38:16
Tackles and Tinnies
That's a slap on the wrist for like where we are in the season and for how much that game meant for both clubs. Like, Titans are fighting for that wooden spoon. As a member, i don't want that.
00:38:16
Chris
ye
00:38:28
Tackles and Tinnies
And they deserve to win that game going off how the second half went. And obviously, there was an opportunity where the Titans got a penalty very late in the game.
00:38:40
Tackles and Tinnies
And when I was live and my adrenaline was pumping, I was pumping, but they got a penalty pretty much right in front.
00:38:42
Chris
Thank
00:38:49
Tackles and Tinnies
And again, I'm nine rows away from the Titans. I'm right there. And the trainer's like, up to the guy, up to Desi Hazler in the box, take the two, take the two, he's looking, he's waiting, and Desi didn't take the two.
00:39:03
Tackles and Tinnies
I understand, and I agreed at the time, Captain Hindsight obviously right now, but at the time, you want to keep them in their 10-meter line.
00:39:13
Chris
Thank you.
00:39:13
Tackles and Tinnies
I was just as said, run the ball, let's back out a fence. And obviously, we know what happens next. But if you took the two, they have to score. have to score a try.
00:39:25
Tackles and Tinnies
I'd probably in hindsight now feel more comfortable doing one or two sets, everything all out on the line, defending. and Okay. Give a penalty away. Who gives a shit? They're still up by another two points.
00:39:39
Tackles and Tinnies
that was a poor decision at the time. And again, I agreed with Des, keep him down that end of the field.
00:39:42
Chris
Thank you.
00:39:46
Tackles and Tinnies
But yeah, mate, it was just devastating. Like the whole crowd was just in awe of what happened. I think Mitch Kenny needs to get a bit more love and support because, again, watching it live, him passing it from what it was, he didn't realize where clear he was. He was still on the 30, and all of sudden he ducks back another 12 meters to get behind the 40 meter line.
00:40:05
Tackles and Tinnies
He literally looks up like... Shit. He's like 25 meters away. Bullet. Bang. Just lower than, well, pretty to the drop pi It was like pretty much perfect pass. Bang. Rest is history. Two point.
00:40:17
Tackles and Tinnies
Phenomenal field goal. Yeah. Unreal Cleary. Like absolute gun. But it's also frustrating as a tight end supporter. And again, and this is my emotional spiel to you. going to keep rambling on. But The Titans bench rotation, and I've got an inside source, and he doesn't ah he says that the boys don't agree with it.
00:40:41
Tackles and Tinnies
But you're picking a guy like Tom Weaver. Why? What does he do for you? He can't play hooker.
00:40:51
Tackles and Tinnies
He can't play in the middle. He's too small. You're literally playing him at 5'8 or halfback. Why not put Khan Pereira on the bench?
00:41:01
Tackles and Tinnies
At least he can cover positions one to five in a pinch if he had to. and okay At least Tom Weaver, sorry, at least Khan Pereira, if he had to, i reckon he could play in the middle for 10 minutes and just let him sniff around the ruckers like a second fullback and just go. Let him sniff around and try to get a try.
00:41:24
Tackles and Tinnies
Tom Weaver did not play that game and I think When Phil Sami went down and Tom Weaver did not go on the field, that was a huge coaching failure on Dez Hazel's behalf by not getting the right rotation.
00:41:40
Tackles and Tinnies
are thoughts on that?
00:41:42
Chris
Yeah, look, these he's had a few head scratches, speaking of Tom Weaver and so forth, because, you know, he they have put he has put, you know, Khan Pereira on the bench the last few games, and he's not played him as well.
00:41:57
Chris
And then a couple of the other, you know, forwards, you know, he's played them, you know, as in the interchange forwards, can't remember their names now, but he's played them for like, you know, seven minutes, and this is, you know, more in the middle.
00:42:05
Tackles and Tinnies
How?
00:42:07
Chris
Yeah, like, why have four players if you're not going to play one of them ever?
00:42:07
Tackles and Tinnies
I think it's nice. Yeah.
00:42:10
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah. Like Isaac Fusul Malawi, like Tino's brother, cousin, whatever it is.
00:42:11
Chris
literally, or for like less than 10 minutes.
00:42:14
Chris
yeah
00:42:15
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah. He plays like seven minutes a game. How plays like seven minutes a game. Alec Winky wasn't getting on. Then he plays a couple of minutes. And then...
00:42:26
Tackles and Tinnies
I sort of got distracted before, but Alec Winkley went out to center and typical Penrith Panthers. They saw the weakness in the armor, the second roller defending at center. Bang. down that's Down the edge of the field, Blaise Talungi, Nathan Cleary, whoever else was involved.
00:42:41
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah, well done to them executing that play. But...
00:42:46
Tackles and Tinnies
Never say it in...
00:42:46
Chris
Yeah.
00:42:47
Chris
Oh, look, you got, look, honestly, Titans and Titans fans were just hard done by. It's just shitty, just shit happens. That's like, it's the best way to put it. And you just go onto next week. I, I get what you're saying. It's just frustrating. Like, you know, just to add to that, you know, like, it's just,
00:43:02
Chris
when premiers and they always, you know people get get upset that, you know, like fans get upset that Penrith get favourites. It's not like they need any more favouritism. And when you do stuff like this, you know, it just it it just adds to that conspiracy that Penrith get all the, you know, they get all the favourable, you know, cause.
00:43:20
Tackles and Tinnies
Cool, yeah.
00:43:21
Chris
Yeah, exactly right. But I will say as well, just, yeah, it's not as bad, but the same thing, hit that Kikau had against Drinkie a few rounds ago, where Drinkie made a line break and was about to score, and then he got hit high in the head by a kick out.
00:43:36
Chris
Like, Drinkie didn't get HIA'd, but it's the same thing as Philip's Army.
00:43:40
Tackles and Tinnies
Do
00:43:41
Chris
You know, same thing happened, and they just said, oh, and the bunker said, oh, yeah, you know, that had no effect. know, like, are you kidding me? So at least ah least the bunker consistent in being bad, you know, making bad calls.
00:43:50
Tackles and Tinnies
so do you know if Casey Badger got stood down this week?
00:43:52
Chris
I could say that, yeah.
00:43:56
Tackles and Tinnies
Surely.
00:43:57
Chris
yeah she probably will get stamp stood down again which is i will say i don't know if it's good for the confidence but like i get there's accountability but like like every like i feel like every few weeks you get sick stood down and then she comes back and then she gets good down again like like it's a little bit like the jack like the jackson hastings uh jack cogger and who's the other one tyson gamble situation like every week one of them's getting dropped like It can't good for your confidence.
00:44:20
Chris
And I can't, I'm not surprised at all that she and other, you know, touches and other refs are making mistakes, you know, every single time.
00:44:27
Tackles and Tinnies
Mate, I empathise with the referees. ah the referee on the field being the main guy. I empathize because they're playing 80 minutes in the middle of the field and talking and looking both sides, making sure that's happening.
00:44:44
Tackles and Tinnies
They're the fittest bloke on the field, by far. They are the fittest bloke on the field.
00:44:47
Chris
Yeah.
00:44:48
Tackles and Tinnies
The touchies, when they make the shit calls, they literally have no excuse. Like a forward pass, you literally, one job is to look right at the camera and determine if it's going forward. You don't have an excuse, and okay?
00:45:01
Tackles and Tinnies
But they're still running, okay? then They're exercising.
00:45:03
Chris
Thank you.
00:45:03
Tackles and Tinnies
I get it. They don't get a sub. They're still running up and down, up and down, up and down. But if you're in the bunker and you have all the technology in the world and you've got a couple of people left and right of you giving you some advice, you don't have an excuse.
00:45:18
Tackles and Tinnies
You're not exercising. You're cognitively sound. You should be an expert instead of a guy like myself talking shit to you on a podcast. You actually do not have an excuse. And if this is a repeat offense,
00:45:31
Tackles and Tinnies
Maybe you're just not good in the bunker. You might be better on the field. You might be a better touch judge. You just might not be good in the bunker. Is that not fair?
00:45:41
Chris
Yeah, look, i mean I think it's still hard because a lot of what the bunker does, so a really good analysis or good comparison would be like DSR or DOR, the cricket review, pretty much, or even VAR, which is the football review.
00:45:49
Tackles and Tinnies
Hmm.
00:46:01
Chris
Like, you know, when they review things, like it's their version of the bunker. I think that a lot of what in NRL that we do, we have a lot of our tech, we don't use any of the technologies. A lot of it is subjective, you know, like, like, you know, like Casey Badger has to up go, well, did Philip Fatsami get hit in the head, for example?
00:46:18
Chris
Like, why not just have hotspot? You know, like we talk, like, you know, like in in football, right?
00:46:21
Tackles and Tinnies
True.
00:46:24
Chris
Whether the, like the and the ball goes over the goal line, they have that VAR technology. Somebody's offside, you know, when somebody's offside, they can see it straight away. Like, why not just have that? you know, in in the NRL, you know, it's just because the NRL is just cheaper.
00:46:34
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah, handsome.
00:46:37
Chris
and They don't want to pay for the technology. Like, like make, stop making things which could be objective decisions and made correctly and stop making them subjective.
00:46:46
Tackles and Tinnies
Hmm.
00:46:48
Chris
Just have hotspot. And then you can see if like, Toto touched his head, you know, touched Philip Simey's head. If he's touched his head, brilliant. It's a high tackle, done. Everybody, you know, we can make the right decision and we can all move on, you know, in this.
00:46:58
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah. Oh, mate, that's a great tag. didn't even think about that. And it'd give less pressure to the bunker for like those definitive calls. Like some of these things are match-defining decisions and a couple of them were for the Titans.
00:47:09
Chris
Yeah.
00:47:12
Tackles and Tinnies
So I think the best way to sum it up is Titans got hard done by Nathan Cleary, you're freak. And the trainer... Well done.
00:47:24
Tackles and Tinnies
you're You're the real hero here, mate, because you're going to get the Penrith Panthers into the top four. So that was worth every single fine and match suspension that you got then.
00:47:33
Tackles and Tinnies
But I think...
00:47:33
Chris
Oh, mate, he got three beers all week at the Penrith Club, at RSL Club that weekend.
00:47:39
Tackles and Tinnies
pride
00:47:40
Tackles and Tinnies
Bro, you probably got rigged on the bloody pokies, mate, and got a major feature anyway and got the money back.
00:47:40
Chris
and
00:47:41
Chris
What?
00:47:44
Chris
Just the NRL. I don't know. Yep.
00:47:45
Tackles and Tinnies
what's the most frustrating thing is with this fine as well, mate?
00:47:48
Tackles and Tinnies
Who gets the money?
00:47:49
Chris
yeah
00:47:51
Tackles and Tinnies
Guess who gets the money?
00:47:52
Chris
just d anl i don't know
00:47:54
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah. Like, Titans get no compensation. I i remember Randall or someone in the group chat was like, we got robbed of two points.
00:47:58
Chris
yeah
00:48:03
Tackles and Tinnies
Broncos get effed over by getting Panthers another two points. And as the Titans fans, we should either get that re-couped to us, because that a huge blow to us.
00:48:12
Chris
you
00:48:14
Tackles and Tinnies
We should get that compensation. Give it back to the fans. Like, Get, like, more raffles. Get more prizes. More game day experiences. Put bloody... Everyone gets a drink ticket on a arrival. Like, all these different things you could do to, like, increase fan engagement. But, nah, the greedy bloody and NRL get 50 grand and they still got the Panthers who they bloody glaze 24-7 into the top four. Like...
00:48:38
Tackles and Tinnies
into the top four like
00:48:40
Chris
Oh, conspiracies. it's very easy
00:48:43
Tackles and Tinnies
Mate, my tin foil hat, I'm meant to be bringing my crown every single week. Maybe can come with my tin foil hat next week. I've got plenty, I've got plenty.
00:48:53
Tackles and Tinnies
But I just want to give shout out. Obviously, Cleary killed it. Edwards did pretty good. But I think the unsung heroes in a defeated side, AJ Brimson and Jaden Campbell.
00:49:05
Tackles and Tinnies
Now, let's re-realize back to super coach. Brimson, would you consider him?
00:49:11
Chris
well Yeah. if My biggest concern about AJ was basically just simply the whispers that Keanu Kinney could have been back this week and he was at risk of, but you know, that risk of, you know, being moved into a different position, like seat theyre and into like probably that, into that left center position. But given that he's not there at all, 100%, today's, this week is the perfect week to bring AJ in.
00:49:34
Chris
You know, like they play bunnies. Sharks, New Zealand, Dolphins, West Tigers, you know, two of them are good, you know, two two or three of them are really, really good matchups.
00:49:46
Chris
You know, if you get them, has to be this week because you want to be playing the monies, especially before the trail gets match fit. 100%, definitely. definitely
00:49:52
Tackles and Tinnies
Agreed. Yeah, mate. And again, that 5'8 center wing duel, if you've got Adam Dewey at 5'8 still, like what a huge get there. You've got that flexibility. You can switch them around as well, which could be pretty desirable.
00:50:05
Tackles and Tinnies
And mate, Jaden Campbell, bloody hell. Gold Coast Titans, if you're listening, someone in the Gold Coast Titans, if you're listening, give that money his bag because he bloody deserves it. He is keeping us afloat. He has been that good, especially like the past month, he's putting that team on his back and all the, murmurs and, uh, reporters and analysis saying that he can't play halfback.
00:50:28
Tackles and Tinnies
His playmaking in the past month has gone through the roof. In my opinion, he's looking so good. He's actually controlling the game a lot better. um And again, Foran has lost not one, not half. He's probably lost five steps in terms of athleticism.
00:50:45
Tackles and Tinnies
But he's certainly obviously rubbed off on Jaden Campbell in a positive way. So if AJ does go to 5'8", or Carter Gordon goes to 5'8", with Keanu Keeney floating around at fullback, I think Jaden Campbell, with more weapons around him, he's only going to get better at halfback.
00:51:01
Tackles and Tinnies
And Perth Bears or PNG or some other club could easily chuck him $1.1 million, especially with his dad obviously playing for the Gold Coast Titans.
00:51:02
Chris
yeah
00:51:12
Tackles and Tinnies
He loves it on the Gold Coast as a Tweed boy. Sign him up. Sign him up. Give him the bag. Get rid of anyone else. He needs to stay. Thoughts?
00:51:21
Chris
Yeah, I agree 100%. When I first saw Jamon Campbell, you know i didn I didn't think he'd... When he moved into halfback, I didn't think he could kick. He's got one of the best kicking games, such a long, good kicking game.
00:51:34
Chris
He's a good passer, great tackler, you know but runs the ball first as well.
00:51:34
Tackles and Tinnies
So good.
00:51:38
Chris
And he's electric and he just makes things happen. Yeah, I would say it's time to the time, just sign up as for as long as possible. Whoever it is, sign for as long as possible. Yeah, like yeah he he will like he is technically a premiership winning halfback And for those who are playing Supercoach or those who are still listening to this podcast and into Supercoach, go get him if you can.
00:51:46
Tackles and Tinnies
yeah
00:51:58
Chris
I think he's he and Munster, in my opinion, of the best two five apes, really. Yeah, so you should be getting if you can.
00:52:05
Tackles and Tinnies
yeah Well, I'm just having a look.
00:52:07
Chris
Or you can even get him, put him in your flex as well if you want to, yeah, at fullback.
00:52:12
Tackles and Tinnies
So Jerome Hughes, very similar pathway in terms of coming from a fullback position and then getting shifted into the halves. Jerome Hughes is currently 29. Jaden Campbell is 25.
00:52:25
Tackles and Tinnies
The way Campbell has rounded out his game, he's obviously beefed up a little bit, getting a lot stronger, which is the main thing. He doesn't have to beef up, just got to say strong, especially in contact.
00:52:36
Tackles and Tinnies
If he can get rid of those soft tissue injuries, which he's been very durable this year, touch wood, everything, getting touched here. I don't see it too far-fetched that he could get a dalliant.
00:52:48
Chris
yeah i think But I also think that Dallium is also linked to your team as well, how your team goes. so
00:52:58
Chris
Can you win Dallium if you're not in the top
00:53:02
Tackles and Tinnies
Believe, Chris. manifests Manifest, manifest. But he has that ability. He has that has that upside.
00:53:08
Chris
eight? I agree, 100%. 100%. Yep. Yep.
00:53:10
Tackles and Tinnies
He has the upside to be a MVP-type candidate.
00:53:12
Chris
Yep. Yeah.
00:53:14
Tackles and Tinnies
Well, to be fair, mate, Jai Gray.
00:53:15
Chris
He's a better Ben Barber.
00:53:16
Chris
Yeah. yeah
00:53:17
Tackles and Tinnies
Jai Gray, lovely guy.
00:53:19
Tackles and Tinnies
Absolute workhorse at 5'5". He was in the Dallium for weeks and weeks and weeks in a crappy team.
00:53:20
Chris
Thank you.
00:53:24
Chris
yeah
00:53:25
Tackles and Tinnies
So... Can't be hating too much. But again, Jaden Campbell, sign him up. $1.2 million over 10 years. Give him the bag.
00:53:35
Tackles and Tinnies
He's, yeah. he If he leaves the Titans at the end of 2026 or I can't remember which one, we are going to be in big, big trouble.
00:53:48
Tackles and Tinnies
Like big, big trouble. Like we're going to take a severe step back. I don't know if we can go back any further than we are now. But yeah, got to re-sign them.
00:53:56
Chris
Yeah, now you'll hear no disagreements from me. i agree with everything you said, all the sentiments.
00:53:58
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah. Yeah.
00:54:00
Chris
Yep, he's good player. Keep him.
00:54:02
Tackles and Tinnies
Now, so we went a bit rogue today and I kind of liked it, but let's have a look at Captain C's Chris.
00:54:03
Chris
Mm-hmm.
00:54:12
Tackles and Tinnies
Some hard matchups this week, like obviously your Melbourne boys against the Broncos. So Reece Walsh, I'm a bit nervous putting an armband on him at Amy Park particularly. You've got the Panthers against Newcastle. So Nathan Cleary or Dylan Edwards, that could be a bit spicy. Yeah, Tommy Turbo against the Raiders, that's a bit scary.
00:54:33
Tackles and Tinnies
Nico Hines, I refuse to put an armband on hit him again. he's just lucky enough to but make the cut of my team. let alone get an armband against the St. George Dragons. Obviously, no Herbie anymore, so the Dolphins against the Roosters. Again, if you've got Katoa as a bit of a pod, that could be interesting.
00:54:49
Tackles and Tinnies
But Tedesco, yeah, he's jumped off a cliff or jumped in a hole in New Zealand somewhere. I don't know.
00:54:55
Chris
Thank you.
00:54:56
Tackles and Tinnies
doggies Doggies are struggling or with inconsistency. New Zealand, not too many relevant players. The person that I'm actually thinking this week, mate, Gold Coast Titans against the Rabbitohs, and we've just been glazing him, and it's actually Jaden Campbell's my captaincy choice this week.
00:55:13
Chris
Yeah, yeah, no, he's going to be my captaincy choice too. Yeah, the good matchups this week are the last two are the last two games of the round.
00:55:17
Tackles and Tinnies
Let's ride away. Yeah.
00:55:21
Chris
Yay. Tits versus Bunnies and then Paribus North Queensland. Like, Zach Lomax is another captaincy option if you want to. I think the hardest part would be if you want, like, I really wanted to j VC JC into Lomax.
00:55:36
Chris
The problem is that if JC goes well because it's the second last game, I don't have anybody to loop in. which is problematic. So, yeah, I agree with you.
00:55:43
Tackles and Tinnies
yeah
00:55:47
Chris
Even though it's St. George, and i think you can touch Nico at the moment. He was on, like, what, 60? Like, at the end of, like, the first half? And then he didn't touch the ball at all. Trindle just took over. Like, it's just so frustrating.
00:55:57
Tackles and Tinnies
So trash. I hate him.
00:55:58
Tackles and Tinnies
He's my nemesis, mate.
00:55:59
Chris
So frustrating.
00:56:00
Tackles and Tinnies
He's my nemesis.
00:56:00
Chris
Yeah.
00:56:01
Chris
Yeah.
00:56:01
Tackles and Tinnies
Oh.
00:56:02
Chris
Yeah. Therefore, yeah. I've said in the chat that I'm calling him Timo Cleary until he has a big triple again. Yeah. I think that.
00:56:09
Tackles and Tinnies
oh
00:56:10
Chris
Yeah, I don't think you can touch Kiraz either because Kiraz was, like he played fullback, like literally in defense technically, but in offense, he was playing right center wing and it was Stephen Crichton who was sweeping and playing that fullback role. So I don't think you can touch him either. either I think that your only really available VC option this week is Cleary.
00:56:28
Tackles and Tinnies
yeah
00:56:33
Chris
And I think it's Cleary into JC personally. personally
00:56:36
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah, mate, I literally about took the words out of my mouth, mate. Yeah, 100% Cleary into JC, lock and load. If you haven't got a JC, who would then be your second choice as captaincy?
00:56:50
Chris
linx
00:56:51
Tackles and Tinnies
Lomax, spicy. That is spicy. That's upside, but it's spicy. We got any love for Reece Walsh going back to back?
00:57:02
Chris
Dude, I don't, look, you weren't so chirpy. I'm not going to start lying. You weren't that chirpy after 30 minutes in crypto race was on nine points or whatever he was on single digits, were you?
00:57:15
Tackles and Tinnies
I was like literally like 17 points.
00:57:16
Chris
what Yeah.
00:57:17
Tackles and Tinnies
I'm like, it's time to get the jinx out. And then I literally said it, bang, try assist, bang, try contribution. I'm what can I say?
00:57:27
Tackles and Tinnies
Magic power. but
00:57:27
Chris
Yeah.
00:57:28
Chris
ah um um I also i was looking last night as well, but I think his top score against against ah Melbourne is something like in the high 60s or 70s. So, look, he could go big, but like history is not with him.
00:57:42
Chris
Yeah.
00:57:44
Tackles and Tinnies
History is meant to be broken. so
00:57:46
Chris
Yeah, true, true, true.
00:57:48
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah. And again, Tommy Turbo, that's just absolute crazy talk if you're going against the Raiders. They're looking too good.
00:57:56
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah, I think do the KISS method, mate. Keep it simple, stupid. Cleary or Edwards into a Jaden Campbell. I think that's definitely the arm to move for the week. Now, Chris, is there any alarm last words before we yeah wrap this up?
00:57:56
Chris
Yeah.
00:58:10
Chris
No, yeah, no, I enjoyed this podcast. It was, I don't know what you'll tell youll say to Gary later on this week for the actual normal podcast. ah ah ah Now that you've already ranted to me.
00:58:22
Chris
Yeah,
00:58:24
Tackles and Tinnies
Mate, it has to be done. That's my therapy for the week.
00:58:26
Chris
ye yeah, yeah.
00:58:27
Tackles and Tinnies
so
00:58:27
Chris
yeah
00:58:28
Tackles and Tinnies
But just going off the arm the Gary chat there, Gary's my boy. He's going to have his honeymoon in Europe. So I wish him all the best and him and says he will have a nice relaxing time over there.
00:58:43
Tackles and Tinnies
we were also sort of changed tackles and tennis guys. so Gary and I were doing the the regular pod on the Thursday and then i was doing the fantasy files with Chris and couple of other boys on the Tuesday.
00:58:54
Tackles and Tinnies
But now we're sort of changing things up for Gary now having his own sort of solo show strictly based on physiotherapy and training.
00:59:05
Tackles and Tinnies
rehabilitation instead of Nord where was more broad on the, main show now actually just gone full, uh, scientific recovery base, more like NRL physio, his podcast, but on steroids.
00:59:18
Tackles and Tinnies
Okay. Gary did a fantastic job talking about, Jerome Hughes, a shoulder dislocation and mitigation strategies and return to play and the mechanism and how it happened.
00:59:29
Tackles and Tinnies
so go check that out. That's on all your platforms again, guys. either audio or video version. And then obviously we have our shorts, whatever. And then I'm looking at potentially going a a news-based show. So again, getting those hot topics that Chris and I sort of sneak peeked potentially could be another variant.
00:59:49
Tackles and Tinnies
Again, we're going gangbusters here on Tackles and Tinnies. We're going to go big. We're going bigger than Bloke in the Bar. It'll be Tackles and Bars. I don't know.
00:59:57
Tackles and Tinnies
We're evolving. Yeah.
00:59:57
Chris
yeah know look i look I second you Gary man I I listened to him with you know Jerome Hughes and you know you got for people who are really interested like you know not just you know like just in you know what
01:00:09
Chris
what been tapped like terms of like you know how many weeks will somebody be out for, you know, give Gary's physio podcast a listen because he gets deep into it. Like you said, it's on steroids.
01:00:20
Chris
Like he actually goes through exactly what the mishaps can be or what what the idea of how you're training people to come back to do things. And, you know, especially if you're healthcare professional like myself, it's it's always fascinating to see what others are talking about.
01:00:30
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah.
01:00:32
Chris
So yeah, Brian from NRL physio, you know, watch out.
01:00:33
Tackles and Tinnies
A hundred percent. Yeah. Yeah, literally. And also I want to second that motion too, because Even if you're not into Supercoach, which we talk about and we talk about NRL as a whole, you don't even have to like the NRL to listen to Gary's pod. Like he's so knowledgeable just in regards like even strength and conditioning into rehabilitation.
01:00:56
Tackles and Tinnies
So share that to a friend, guys, because I ah i i love – I have a strength conditioning personal training background. So not even to do with NRL, I really just enjoy learning. And, again, I think that's going to be helpful – regardless if you're playing footy or you're gym goer health person, these sort of things will just help you be better.
01:01:15
Tackles and Tinnies
So, Again, share that around. That's physio with Gary. Might be on hiatus for the next month or so. Obviously, deserved a honeymoon break. But, guys, I think we'll wrap it up there.
01:01:27
Tackles and Tinnies
Tackles and tinnies, been fantastic. Round 15, you know where to find us. We're all socials, all listening platforms, five-star ratings, likes, shares, you name it. We want it. And, Got a couple of messages for Gary from his physio. So again, guys, if you've got messages for Chris and I or um some of the other boys in the podcast, just flick them through and I'll just post them straight to them or um can answer on on their behalf. behalf Pardon me, that Coke's coming up.
01:01:51
Tackles and Tinnies
but
01:01:52
Tackles and Tinnies
But yeah.
01:01:52
Chris
Well, we just didn't know the qui the fan at the the the super coach questions to Adam.
01:01:55
Chris
him That's who they that's where i really want to hear from.
01:01:56
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah.
01:01:59
Tackles and Tinnies
To be fair, Adam the scumbag is a scumbag for the only reason that he gives you advice and then he doesn't do it to himself. And for some reason he pops off. So you take that with a grain of salt.
01:02:11
Chris
i also want to say that on the podcast, life so he he he literally shouted me on the pod and said, guys, Chris, you should your team apart for Herbie. Glad I didn't.
01:02:20
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah, true.
01:02:22
Chris
Glad i didn't.
01:02:24
Tackles and Tinnies
Well, to be fair, he might have got one one wrong with Herbie, but he saved me with Rhys Walsh. So, Adam, you are forgiven.
01:02:31
Tackles and Tinnies
You are still the king of Supercoach. But thanks, guys. Enjoy round 22. We're almost almost ah More importantly, best luck with your head-to-head finals if you are lucky enough to get there. And let's make some cash.
01:02:32
Chris
you
01:02:47
Tackles and Tinnies
Let's make some cash leagues pop off for all of us. Good luck in classic. Good luck in draft. Good luck in overall. And have a fantastic weekend, guys. Thank you very much.