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Tackles and Tinnies Presents: The Fantasy Files - R21 -E13: Reverse Trades & Regret — Round 21 Meltdown
12 Plays4 months ago
Ryan’s still in emotional rehab after last week’s SuperCoach horror show — the now-infamous reverse trade that saw Dylan Edwards sold for Nicho Hynes, AND the captaincy slapped on him for double the disappointment 😩
Chris does his best not to say “I told you so”… but let’s be honest, he definitely told him so.
💥 Here’s what’s bubbling in the Round 21 Fantasy Files:
🤯 The Hynes Catastrophe
– Ryan relives the pain… play by play
– Is Nicho still in the elite tier? Or is it time to move on?
🔄 Trade Talk (If You’ve Got Any Left)
– The sneaky PODs still worth a look
– Holding dead weight because you literally have to
– Cheapies you hope never make your 17
🧢 Buy, Hold, Sell — Scraping the Barrel Edition
– Edwards owners: smug or scared?
– Galvin’s rise, Karapani’s final rites, and the Isaako dilemma continues
– Is JC still a must? Or just a name?
📈 Captaincy Calls
– Is it time to VC anyone not named Hynes?
– Left-field smokeys for those who need a miracle
– Chris’s safe(ish) play vs. Ryan’s tilt-at-the-top picks
📬 Fan Questions + Listener Meltdowns
– Reverse trade therapy
– Captaincy nightmares
– Someone out there still holding Tino… bless you.
🎧 Late-season fantasy has never been more painful or more hilarious — tune in as the boys break it all down with fewer trades, more panic, and just a sprinkle of wisdom.
#Round21Carnage #NickoHynes #DylanEdwards #CaptaincyChaos #SuperCoachPodcast #TradeTalk #FootyBanter #TacklesandTinnies
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Transcript
00:00:05
Tackles and Tinnies
I'm so happy, Chris. you You're on the tin crack every single episode now. It's amazing. Amazing. I've also got a bit of hybrid tonight and I've actually got a Titans mug with a hot choccy in there.
00:00:17
Tackles and Tinnies
So I've got a zero sugar lemonade.
00:00:19
Chris
Hey, very nice. o
00:00:20
Tackles and Tinnies
I've got my water.
00:00:21
Chris
but thing ah
00:00:22
Tackles and Tinnies
And I've got a hot choccy. So it's a weird mix of ah beverages tonight. But the ah the voice has been being peppered today. So I'm ready to um rip in for Supercoach. But Chris, we're just speaking in the green room. My God, I'm just devastated. Like beyond devastated.
00:00:41
Tackles and Tinnies
We spoke last week on Tackles and Tinnies episode 12 regarding ah the flex position for myself.
00:00:44
Chris
Hmm.
00:00:49
Tackles and Tinnies
I made the decision to sell Pappenhausen. And then I'm like, I had Dylan Edwards. I literally had Dylan Edwards. And then I had him as my captain. I'm like, I've got a vibe. I've got a feeling that this is going to be the play of the week.
00:01:00
Tackles and Tinnies
And then you and bloody Jake convinced me to get my arse nemesis, Nico Hines. Don't get me wrong, Nico did all right. He got like 77 or something. But bloody hell, when Dylan Edwards pops off and gets 170 points and then game over. Like after that, I was just raging in bed. I was like, this is bullshit. I'm so cranky. Like I don't how to react.
00:01:23
Tackles and Tinnies
That's a 200-point swing of both my head-to-heads because of it. And it's like, a what do we do? Chris, I need a therapy session. Help me.
00:01:33
Chris
Hey, look, first of all, like, look, I'm sorry, man. Like, like I, like, look, I, I think Nico's the right buy still, fat I was like this week and I feel bad that I shouted Nico captain. Let's go last week to to get you in it. For what it's I did VC Nico as well, but um yeah, look that just, dude, it's just bad luck. Like there, like there was no way knowing his ceiling was that high. Like that was just an absolute ridiculous bomb.
00:02:02
Chris
Really. Yeah. by uh by edwards and i feel bad for you as well because you've been planned you've been planning to go edwards for about three weeks like you know you've been talking about in the chat and last minute you don't get him oh it's injury coach for you too
00:02:14
Tackles and Tinnies
Bro, devastated. devastated. Like, literally, as you said, I've been planning for like weeks. Like, nah, Dylan Edwards is my boy post-Origin. I'm feeling it's the right call.
00:02:25
Tackles and Tinnies
Help Pappenhouse the extra week. I'm like, yep, because I'm going to get Dylan Edwards in. Ah, I shouldn't have slanted him about the New South Wales selection. Probably heard me on tackles and tinnies and decided to pop off. So, and then on top of that, the bloody Gold Coast Titans losing in a golden point to your Tigers, mate.
00:02:44
Tackles and Tinnies
What do you say about that? Bloody Adam Dewey out of nowhere.
00:02:47
Chris
Oh, man. Oh, look, what I heard just then was, hey, it was your fault. So I retract my apology then. It's your fault for for shitting on Edwards.
00:02:57
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah, right.
00:02:57
Chris
um yeah Yeah, no. How bad? Let's be honest. How bad was the Tigers' tits game? oh man.
00:03:03
Tackles and Tinnies
oh
00:03:04
Chris
Like, it was just a comedy of errors. Yeah.
00:03:06
Tackles and Tinnies
Right, it's just like...
00:03:06
Chris
Like, i don't think any team deserves, and no team deserves to get two points, if I'm being perfectly honest. But, you know.
00:03:12
Tackles and Tinnies
Mate, I'll take him one.
00:03:12
Chris
Yeah.
00:03:13
Tackles and Tinnies
I'll take him one, mate. I'll take him one. but Yeah, bloody hell. Like the the last play of the game, the setup for the um the field goal was absolutely woeful, pardon me, by the um the Tigers.
00:03:24
Tackles and Tinnies
And then Dewey absolutely shanks it and still gets it through. And bloody, he's been popping off for like the past six weeks after I sold him.
00:03:28
Chris
Yeah.
00:03:32
Tackles and Tinnies
So, you know, standard procedure on Supercoach, mate.
00:03:35
Chris
And then all the knock-ons that were missed by ah Belinda Scharf. Yeah, as well. So I can't imagine Titspan being happy at all, at all.
00:03:43
Tackles and Tinnies
Bro, bro. So bad. I just literally, AJ Brimson, Tino, Jaden Campbell, and Chris Randall. That's it. Everyone else, go away.
00:03:56
Tackles and Tinnies
I really don't care.
00:03:56
Chris
Yep.
00:03:58
Tackles and Tinnies
I'm not going to go into it. not going to go into it. We'll be here bloody for an hour dissecting. I've mean um also bought Rugby League Live 26 and I tried rebuilding ah the Gold Coast Titans, but the game is that buggy that you can't even like on the My Career, My League sort of thing, what it is.
00:04:14
Tackles and Tinnies
You can't even like change the teams. Like I made a trade for Selwyn Cobb. I'm like popping off, starting really well. And I'm like, I can't choose anyone but the Broncos. so like to make a trade with.
00:04:25
Tackles and Tinnies
I don't know if you've heard, but yeah, the game's an absolute shambles. Like, you actually can't do anything. So, really frustrating that this game had like two years to build and then they decided to release it when the game wasn't even ready. Like, huge mistake for um the developers. And yeah.
00:04:42
Tackles and Tinnies
Have you heard much about Rugby League Live, mate?
00:04:43
Chris
Yeah, i've seen all the memes and I've seen all the ratings, some of these ridiculous ratings, you know, like Teague Wilton, 91, that kind of stuff. Although he was really good actually last week for the Sharks.
00:04:54
Tackles and Tinnies
And I also, which is relevant to you because I traded in draft Chanel Harris-Tavita for Dave Fafita, play Dave Fafita, gets me 10 points, and I rested Teague Wilton, and then he gets the 91.
00:04:55
Chris
But...
00:05:08
Tackles and Tinnies
So it's like, what could he do like?
00:05:11
Chris
Oh, man. And did you see, don't know if you saw teamless Tuesdays, but ah David Fafita, he's re-aggravated his ankle injury. yeah How's that CHT Fafita trade turning out for you?
00:05:21
Tackles and Tinnies
Mate, I only need it for finals, bro. If you get some reps in for the semi-final for head-to-head, then we're at we're on. But I'm probably not even going get to that stage. So we are skating on thin ice.
00:05:33
Tackles and Tinnies
But, mate, how's your team looking after um last week?
00:05:37
Chris
No, I had a really good week. Actually. I, I scored 14, 12 and it's all thanks to King, King Edwards really who I captained. Uh, but you know, honestly, like I got lucky, like um I had planned to like, get like Cleary, uh, this week I was thinking, oh, look, should I just, should I just not sit on it?
00:05:55
Chris
Not do anything, sit on my trades and and I'll, I'll get clear in this week. But you know, like I knew I had to load up on the Penrith draw, you know i already had blaze, but, um, you know, like when trail went down, i was like, i was like, oh dude, there's going to be zero resistance from, from the bunnies. And I was like, okay, my hand's forced to get Edwards, you know, and I wasn't sure if he'd goal kick and stuff like that, but yeah.
00:06:17
Chris
ah Yeah. It was just crazy. didn't know. I had no idea he'd get 170. It was just insane.
00:06:23
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah.
00:06:23
Chris
And so that was pretty instrumental, especially a round where like So many ah super coach relevant players scored like sub 60, like Teddy, you know, and the like, yeah. But just injury carnage, man, so much.
00:06:33
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah.
00:06:36
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah, it's been devastating.
00:06:37
Chris
Yeah. I know it hit your team as well. The injury carnage.
00:06:40
Tackles and Tinnies
Oh, the saviour by absolute, out of nowhere, Sandon Smith's been named, which has absolutely helped you. Cam Munster, a couple of other boys being taken out. But, man, my team, it's skating on thin ice. We are running low on trades, eh? Like two trades left after making one this week.
00:06:59
Tackles and Tinnies
I'm holding Tino. I'm holding Keyon. The only reason i'm holding Keyon is because it's inevitable that one FRF or two RF will be injured next two weeks. So by default, I actually have to hold.
00:07:11
Tackles and Tinnies
um Yeah, mate. Rattled. And again, that Nico Hines chat earlier on, yeah, probably long-term it's the right play, but it hurts. It does hurt a lot. So...
00:07:22
Tackles and Tinnies
um I just sometimes just do it for the vibes.
00:07:25
Chris
Mm-hmm.
00:07:26
Tackles and Tinnies
I just want to make the trade for the vibes, but at the end of the day, I think I just got to trust my gut. Like that Nanai call I made earlier on in the season where he popped off for those three weeks, that was a good call, but nah, doing it for the lols.
00:07:38
Tackles and Tinnies
And then ah it's affecting my season, so... Um, but yeah, I scored, uh, a ah miserable score of, hang on, screens reloading, miserable score 1190, which now I'm a season rank of 5,270. So I'm actually out of the top 5%.
00:07:57
Tackles and Tinnies
I was so close to the top 1% and now I'm just free falling. I'm just going into the sinkhole of New Zealand. So, um, I don't know, mate, it's, it's terrible.
00:08:08
Tackles and Tinnies
It's very, very terrible. Um, Now, super coach this week, mate, as you were mentioning before, there are some big injuries and people are running really low on trades. So I just mentioned before, Keon Kulmatangi, he's out for the entire year. That's huge.
00:08:23
Tackles and Tinnies
Tino, he's out for about probably about a month on the best case scenario. ah I'm missing someone else. Who was that? It was Val Holmes as well.
00:08:34
Chris
ah Val Holmes?
00:08:35
Tackles and Tinnies
Yep. Val Holmes is out. So again, Carnage. Carnage. Carnage. How many trades have you got
00:08:41
Chris
I have four at the moment left. Yeah. And ah yeah, my overarching recommendation, you know, for people who have like less than six trades, like whenever we talk about later, we'll talk about trade targets as usual.
00:08:54
Chris
But if you have a warm body, do not trade them.
00:08:55
Tackles and Tinnies
left, mate?
00:09:00
Chris
Yeah.
00:09:00
Tackles and Tinnies
Oh.
00:09:01
Chris
but If they're alive and kicking and they can make a footy field, just keep them for this week. If you've got 17, that's it.
00:09:06
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah.
00:09:07
Chris
Just hold on. Do your best to hold to the trade. There's going be more injury coverage, you know.
00:09:10
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah. Yeah.
00:09:11
Chris
Yeah.
00:09:14
Tackles and Tinnies
Oh, mate, the car is so, so, so bad.
00:09:14
Chris
yeah
00:09:16
Tackles and Tinnies
And again, like making those trades post-origin and guys like myself and Jake who picked up Val Holmes for the Queensland Spirit and then bang, instantly got um that rotated tough tear.
00:09:27
Tackles and Tinnies
And now I'm making a double trade for Lomax, which is just such a waste and so frustrating for a lot of super coaches out there. um But yeah, I totally totally agree, man. like If you have a player that is available to play, you just got to hold.
00:09:42
Tackles and Tinnies
um It's inevitable. We're going to have so many other blokes going out just due to overuse fatigue. and um Keon's prime example are just complete accidents. like You can't do anything about those ones where you just get caught with your studs in the ground.
00:09:57
Tackles and Tinnies
um kane bradley think he's the first guy want to talk about he's on the bench and he could be bit of an a nightmare now so it's actually not ideal um but my boy from last year joe chan ah um from round one last year our savior cheapy then turned into an absolute a nightmare i tell you what bradley's probably the new joe chan what are your thoughts on kane bradley what do we do with him mate
00:10:23
Chris
Oh, look, for me, it doesn't matter. I've only got, I only had 17 this week. I've now got 18. He can't be my AE nightmare. True. Thankfully. um well like Look, I think that I wouldn't be surprised if he just gets, if he gets dropped.
00:10:40
Chris
um like he has in the last two weeks. ah Sorry, was it last week? Sorry. You know, late and he just got replaced. I can't remember who.
00:10:46
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah.
00:10:47
Chris
Yeah. So I think you just hold on and just see what happens really. Yeah.
00:10:51
Tackles and Tinnies
yeah
00:10:51
Chris
I wouldn't be too concerned. Yeah. Just play your best 18 and just pray that nobody gets to HIA and he doesn't have to come in.
00:10:56
Tackles and Tinnies
yeah
00:10:56
Chris
Yeah.
00:10:57
Tackles and Tinnies
yeah Yeah, because it's interesting to see that on the extended bench for the first time, I believe, ah former Gold Coast Titans boy, Josiah Pohulu. I'm thinking he might get a crack at that 17th position. But yeah, he's named at number 19. So it'll be very interesting if he actually gets his debut this week for the um Melbourne Storm.
00:11:17
Tackles and Tinnies
Big loss for the Titans. Great gain for Melbourne Storm. ah Chris, I think I'll just throw it straight to you, mate. Who do you want to talk about straight up?
00:11:28
Chris
Oh, look. Why not? We'll just go straight into trades. Really.
00:11:32
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah.
00:11:32
Chris
Yeah. Actually, no, before that, ah no sign of Pappy in Teamless Tuesdays.
00:11:37
Tackles and Tinnies
You want to call? Yeah.
00:11:39
Chris
If you've held, you youre you have to be just absolutely fuming, you know, that you've held for like three weeks and, you know, yeah a fourth week now and he's still not showing off.
00:11:44
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah.
00:11:49
Chris
Yeah. Yeah. That just sucks.
00:11:50
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah. yeah
00:11:51
Chris
Yeah. Yeah.
00:11:52
Tackles and Tinnies
um I reckon, man, a reckon he's out for another two weeks, honestly.
00:11:52
Chris
um But...
00:11:55
Tackles and Tinnies
It's only me that four to six week bracket where they're at. And if Nick Mane is doing so well at fullback, Mel and Storm are not going to be in any means to be rushing them back, even with how many injuries they've got to their outside backs.
00:12:08
Chris
Yeah, no, I totally agree with that. Like, yeah, like you want him back. You need him for the finals if they're going to win this year for the premiership.
00:12:14
Tackles and Tinnies
Yep.
00:12:15
Chris
So you just, yeah, just wait. Yeah.
00:12:18
Tackles and Tinnies
Yep.
00:12:18
Chris
And you just give him as much time until he's actually truly fit. But yeah, we're going to trade targets.
00:12:21
Tackles and Tinnies
Yep.
00:12:22
Chris
I guess um number one trade target. Oh, number one in the top 1%. We'll do top 1% today. We'll just be paying Haas at 727K. Like, yeah. just ah today will just be paying hass
00:12:29
Tackles and Tinnies
Yep. Yep. I held.
00:12:32
Chris
at seven seven twenty seven k like um Ryan, you have him obviously, but there's going to lot of people who, um, who have, he sold him about, you know, six, seven weeks ago for origin and, you know, the buy's over.
00:12:37
Tackles and Tinnies
ah held
00:12:45
Chris
He's not going to, you know, and he's fresh off a buy now. um Yeah, you can't escape playing two front row forwards. He and Terrell May are just the best front row forwards in the competition. They average like 15 points more than, you know, the third highest scoring front row forward, which is Joey Taps and he's floundering at the moment ah with his minutes.
00:13:02
Tackles and Tinnies
yep
00:13:03
Chris
I would just say, get Payne Haas in and then be done with it is what I would say. Yeah.
00:13:09
Tackles and Tinnies
Like, again, people like myself who was so gung-ho with their trades early on, ah and with Cleary the same thing. I couldn't afford to trade Cleary or Payne Haas, and thank God I didn't because I've got two trades left.
00:13:22
Tackles and Tinnies
um But yeah, he's definitely the main guy to get in. Like, he's 100% said and forget. After that, I guess, two weeks off or two and a half weeks off after Origin, he should be ready to go. Him and Paddy Carrigan are one of the, um get to the Broncos and into the top four, do you try to get that um second chance opportunity.
00:13:38
Tackles and Tinnies
I think they'll be running red hot for that run home and Payne Haas, as you said, mate, he's,
00:13:41
Chris
Yeah.
00:13:43
Tackles and Tinnies
Tackle busting, off-floating, potential try scoring, mind-breaking, you name it. He's got it in his arsenal. Yeah, 100%.
00:13:50
Chris
Yeah.
00:13:51
Tackles and Tinnies
Gut your team if you have to. ah Get your nothing. Get your Kane Bradley in if you need to. Get your my boy Kane Lawson in your team. ah
00:14:03
Tackles and Tinnies
so i did not Nathan, that's how much TV we use to me, mate. We love you, Lawson. You've been a good enough for me, bro.
00:14:12
Tackles and Tinnies
ah Yeah. Be there for around 27 when there's no one available.
00:14:12
Chris
puts Respect on
00:14:15
Chris
ah
00:14:17
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah.
00:14:18
Chris
but the name. But that's actually kind good, actually, because we should actually, yeah, talk about Nathan Cleary, who's like the second most traded in this week.
00:14:26
Tackles and Tinnies
yeah
00:14:27
Chris
By all means, you know, he's ah he's a slam dunk. You know, the positives, he's averaging 82. If you take away his HIA-affected game against Melbourne when he scored two.
00:14:36
Tackles and Tinnies
yeah
00:14:37
Chris
And then, you know, his free-game draw, know, he's softened shaman. You know, um the negatives are, there's no guarantee he'll goal kick this week if you buy him. And then two, who do you leave out?
00:14:48
Chris
Because his half mate mates, ah Nico Hines and Jerome Hughes, they've got five game averages of 80 plus as well. And then, you know, you can't touch Nico this week.
00:14:56
Tackles and Tinnies
Yep.
00:14:58
Chris
He's playing ah decimated salves. And then Hughes scores higher when Munster isn't playing as well. So yeah, it's an interesting one.
00:15:04
Tackles and Tinnies
yep
00:15:07
Chris
um I would say that as well, ah can't we can't game out every single scenario, but if you're thinking about buying Cleary this week, I'll game out the most common scenario, pretty much, where people own, I'm going to assume they own Teddy and teddy and Drinky.
00:15:25
Chris
Like if you bought ah Edwards last week, then ah I think trading either Nico or Hughes to Cleary is just sideways. So as a result, you'd have to think about trading a fullback, but I think you're taking on a huge unnecessary risk by anti-potting Edwards, Drinky or Teddy, you know, and because they can all go massive hundred plus on any given day.
00:15:46
Chris
I know people were talking about trading Teddy out. Cause I think he's like the number seven. most traded player. ah
00:15:51
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah.
00:15:51
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah.
00:15:52
Chris
But I would be real careful because um he's he's still averaging like 91, you know, or he's actually averaging 88 to be exact.
00:15:58
Chris
But um he that 37 score he had last week, I think is a one-off. I think it's just because of Sam Walker, just them just finding, you know, their way with the you know with the the attack.
00:16:05
Tackles and Tinnies
yep
00:16:10
Chris
you know And if you don't own Edwards, I think you have to ask, you know, do you think that Clary is the best halfback or fullback for the flex position. And if so, I think you buy him. And personally, I think he is really, yeah.
00:16:20
Tackles and Tinnies
yeah
00:16:21
Chris
um Obviously you have him, Ryan. um So it's easy for you. You don't have to think about it, but it's, it's a hard watch for people who, who are going def right him this week really is what I think.
00:16:30
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah. Oh, I think clearly as a New South Welshman, Chris, I think you might agree with this.
00:16:31
Chris
Yeah.
00:16:35
Tackles and Tinnies
He's probably out for an Avenged Tour. People are saying he's going to lose his New South Wales jersey. People are saying he might even lose the Australian jumper. ah He's going to be on a mission and again,
00:16:46
Tackles and Tinnies
The stories written on the wall that Panthers aren't going to make the grand final, it's all written there for him. I think he's just going to come out absolutely gun-ho, and this Panthers team is looking red hot.
00:16:59
Tackles and Tinnies
um And they've just shown in the past couple of weeks that you don't need Cleary. That actually leaves a bit of pressure off him and some of these other boys, like Dylan Edwards and Isaiah Yodin even played last week.
00:17:03
Chris
Yeah.
00:17:09
Tackles and Tinnies
You've Edwards, Yo, Blaise Talungi is looking good. Panthers are coming in red hot. Get Cleary. Get Cleary. I actually had to pick between Cleary and Edwards.
00:17:18
Chris
Yeah.
00:17:21
Tackles and Tinnies
I probably would go Cleary.
00:17:23
Chris
Yep. Yep. I'd agree with you. I'd agree with you really. Like, I just don't think Edwards, I mean, you can buy this week as you want, but I don't think he's going to score 173 again, as I said earlier.
00:17:26
Tackles and Tinnies
Yep.
00:17:33
Chris
And um yeah. Yeah. You'd only, you'd only, you'd only buy him already if you, if you had Cleary really.
00:17:40
Tackles and Tinnies
Yep.
00:17:40
Chris
um
00:17:41
Tackles and Tinnies
Yep.
00:17:41
Chris
And you only owned two halfbacks. ah Blake Braley, he's the third most traded in. um And I think he might be the best hook option actually, to be honest.
00:17:51
Tackles and Tinnies
100% he's the best hooker option. Jake was popping off in the group chat saying, I told you so, I told you so. ah kind of wish I waited one more week. And I think the Sharks have just burnt me too many times and I was too scared. Again, with obviously the Nico Hines banter.
00:18:04
Tackles and Tinnies
But yeah, man, Blake Braley all sudden has got a running game. Where did this come from, Chris?
00:18:08
Chris
Yeah.
00:18:08
Tackles and Tinnies
It's
00:18:09
Chris
Yeah. but Well, that's exactly right. Like, um and then, you know, in the last five weeks, he scored four tons, you know, and then the other one that he's missed out is like, it was like a 97 or something that.
00:18:15
Tackles and Tinnies
crazy.
00:18:18
Chris
It's crazy. It's crazy. And then this week he plays the Souths, you know, like, Like, I mean, like I think if you, like you and I both have Harry Grant and, and he was so close of being a 90 last week as well.
00:18:30
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah. Yeah.
00:18:31
Chris
You know, if it wasn't for that elbow, you know, he would have got that try So I don't think like it's too far off, but the problem is, you know, if Baker really keeps scoring a hundred, which I don't think he will, like at some point that's the stop, but like,
00:18:43
Chris
that's like 40 points every week over Harry Grant or your Connor Watson, you know, that you're just giving up straight away.
00:18:48
Tackles and Tinnies
yeah
00:18:50
Chris
So like, I think that if you've got Haas, I think you probably consider trading KK. ah To him, really.
00:18:58
Tackles and Tinnies
yeah
00:18:58
Chris
But I don't think I would trade Harry Grant or Connor Watson for him, really, unless you had a lot of trades.
00:19:03
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah, sideways for sure.
00:19:05
Chris
Yeah, exactly right. Maybe Watson because he didn't play very well last week and he got 47 as well. But then again, Harry Grant was only like 56, so he wasn't much better. Yeah.
00:19:12
Tackles and Tinnies
Yep.
00:19:13
Chris
um And then probably last trade target to probably talk about for this week in terms of people you want to buy, really, would be Zach Lomax.
00:19:21
Tackles and Tinnies
Hmm.
00:19:21
Chris
Um, 735 K free game average of 89. He just keeps delivering. He keeps offloading. He keeps taking hit ups. He keeps scoring tries. Mitchell Moses is back this week.
00:19:32
Tackles and Tinnies
Biggest part, yep.
00:19:32
Chris
You know, i Adam, them I think. Yeah. Yeah. Adam about two weeks ago was saying, look, I'm, I'd like Adam of rank 13th overall on super coach. Um, um Yeah, he was saying, look, I want to maybe wait until round 23 possibly, you know, when they play, you know, ah the Cows or was it or Souths or something like that.
00:19:53
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah, trash pool.
00:19:53
Chris
But it's hard.
00:19:54
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah.
00:19:54
Chris
It's hard.
00:19:54
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah.
00:19:55
Chris
He just keeps scoring. Yeah, massive points.
00:19:56
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah. But again, he's just going to get 70 every single week. He's just, that base and power is so good. Obviously, goal kicking. And now that Moses is back, regardless if he's coming back at 85%,
00:20:09
Tackles and Tinnies
He's going to get much better ball and those kicks to Lomax, he's pretty much guaranteed almost every single time. So, yeah, especially you guys like myself who went Val Holmes, it's just straight sideways swap.
00:20:22
Tackles and Tinnies
It's so easy. Like, you're not losing any money. um You're getting a very similar play or archcoty player archetype of player in Lomax. And, again, I think Parramatta will be looking a little bit better. Interesting, though, Dylan Brown, obviously, still, he's been dropped completely, obviously, because he's leaving the club.
00:20:38
Tackles and Tinnies
Do you reckon that will affect his score at all for Lomax or not?
00:20:42
Chris
Nah, nah. If anything, not having Dylan Brown is actually better because Dylan Brown always just plays only in left. He never comes to the right hand side. He never feeds the right. And all that happens is ball that goes to Dylan.
00:20:54
Chris
Dylan Brown is just ball that doesn't go to Zach Lomax pretty much.
00:20:58
Tackles and Tinnies
Yep.
00:20:58
Chris
Yeah. Yeah. And I like having Moses back because their team looks so much better.
00:21:00
Tackles and Tinnies
Yep.
00:21:02
Chris
And they also score more points generally.
00:21:04
Tackles and Tinnies
Yep.
00:21:04
Chris
So means he'll get more goal kicking. And, you know, I really would try to find a way. If I had to rank this week of those four guys I kind of talked about, I would say, you want to get Payne Haas? Pretty much.
00:21:15
Chris
And then yeah I don't want to think about getting Cleary cley or Lomax, really.
00:21:19
Tackles and Tinnies
Yep.
00:21:19
Chris
ah Yeah, rarely you want to do get him, but I think you can kind of count on him possibly, you know, regressing to the mean, you know, or just praying anyways, especially if you've already got a ready got ah gun hooker at the moment.
00:21:30
Chris
Yeah.
00:21:31
Tackles and Tinnies
yeah
00:21:31
Chris
um I'll just also quickly, you tell me if you're interested in any of these pods at all. So yeah, if you're looking for a pod this week and you don't like any of the guys we talked about, um front row forward, AFB, he's a 533K.
00:21:44
Chris
He's got some easy matchups, you know, so you're hoping that he scores more tries, but I will just say he doesn't necessarily score against ah bad defenses. So for example, this year, his tries have come against Penrith, Newcastle, Manly, and Melbourne. So none these are bad defensive teams.
00:21:59
Chris
Dane Gagai, 629K, averaging 85 since he moved to fullback. He has a bye next week, but you know he seems to be in the right place, right time. He just picks up fix up easy tries and easy try assists.
00:22:10
Chris
ah Ola Kowatu, he's back this week as well at 660K. Tricky draw. i Personally, I'd be careful about it, um even though i know he's fairly...
00:22:21
Chris
ah he's pretty, he's pretty, I guess, fixture resistant, that shoulder, it could pop out at any time. And then you're, you're, you're back in a Toby coachman situation where now, now needs surgery.
00:22:31
Tackles and Tinnies
yeah
00:22:33
Chris
ah Xavier Coates, he's 616K. You could trade him if you don't like Mark Nwanganizawase because he's got a break even 159 this week. So Mark's 668. So you make a good 40K in cash as well.
00:22:47
Chris
um I reckon he's actually pretty good, actually. He's probably your premier rocks and diamonds, you know.
00:22:52
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah.
00:22:52
Chris
And then I'd probably argue that you could pick up any Penrith Sharks or New Zealand backline because they all they all have play really well. So they've got really good draws like, you know, RTS.
00:23:05
Chris
ah Jesus. Brian Toto, Tom Jenkins, Ronnie Mulatalo, Casey McLean, all of those guys if you want to.
00:23:14
Tackles and Tinnies
I was going to shout out Case McLean for you, mate.
00:23:14
Chris
Yeah. Do you like three of them? Yeah.
00:23:18
Tackles and Tinnies
The McClue hand, you slandered him for so long.
00:23:20
Chris
but
00:23:21
Tackles and Tinnies
And the i reckon he's listened to the pod and he's decided that i actually might pass the ball just to piss off Chris. And he's looking way better, man. Thomas Jenkins looking good too due to the fact that's happened.
00:23:32
Tackles and Tinnies
Maybe you're the good omen for the Penrith Panthers, Chris.
00:23:35
Chris
Yeah. Like, i mean, like the moment I sold him, that was the thing, you know, like, oh man, so annoying. So annoying, but good.
00:23:40
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah.
00:23:41
Chris
Good for McLean. I still hate him, but yeah, good for him. um I won't be getting him in.
00:23:46
Tackles and Tinnies
What about, um what are your thoughts on Dane Gagai, mate? Like, he's been looking absolutely unreal. Now he's playing at fullback at a center wing position, which is actually unreal. um He's currently valued at 629K.
00:23:58
Tackles and Tinnies
He's got a break in 15.
00:24:00
Chris
Yep.
00:24:02
Tackles and Tinnies
Not the most desirable draw, but he's looking really solid. Had that cork at the end of um last game, which sort of let Hal Omosia through up the was.
00:24:13
Tackles and Tinnies
But what are your thoughts on Gagai?
00:24:15
Chris
Look, I, I really like him. If I'm being honest, like, like, I know, i know, i know, like, I actually, I'm actually a big believer of don't get players on a, on a shit team, which is what the Knights are.
00:24:27
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
00:24:29
Chris
And, you know, I was worried, like I was pretty worried last week because, you know, he looked like he was barely finishing the game and I was like, can he make it? Can his body make it for the rest of the season before he drops? um But I reckon if you've got the trades, I think it's totally worth it.
00:24:43
Chris
Yeah. It's that being said, the issue is just, it's the same issue with Gagai every year. Like, because he's not sexy in terms of his play, people just don't get him. Like he averages like 70 every, for the last two years, he'd average 70 and nobody gets him at all.
00:24:52
Tackles and Tinnies
yeah
00:24:56
Tackles and Tinnies
yeah
00:24:57
Chris
But um I think he's a good one, honestly, as long as he can finish the season. yeah And you've got trades.
00:25:02
Tackles and Tinnies
And going back to some of those boys you mentioned, mate, Xavier Coates, I think that's a great buy. Like he looked absolutely unreal on the weekend. And again, um when that storm ensembles on point and and they're ready to go, Xavier Coates has proven this year.
00:25:17
Tackles and Tinnies
You can go 140 plus. ah Again, line busting, tackle busting, ah aerial assault, you name it, he's got it. I love that.
00:25:25
Chris
Yeah.
00:25:26
Tackles and Tinnies
Brian Toto was another one you mentioned. Not the biggest fan I was. And then he's just got that lingering issue with the knee and the hamstring. Just would not want to touch that.
00:25:35
Chris
Yeah.
00:25:37
Tackles and Tinnies
Even though he's absolutely gunned, don't get me wrong, but it's just too much red flags, particularly for you and myself who haven't got ah the trades to sort of
00:25:42
Chris
Mm.
00:25:46
Tackles and Tinnies
ah get through the season with that. And another guy, Olakawatu, I was talking to Gary and um another physio that I know. And I was listening to Physio, caught not Physicon, I listened to the ah Magic Sponge podcast.
00:26:02
Tackles and Tinnies
And, yeah, they were just saying, avoid, avoid, avoid. Ola Kawatu, way too high of a risk of um redoing it. As you mentioned, Chris, as well, that draw is not overly desirable.
00:26:09
Chris
Mm-hmm.
00:26:12
Tackles and Tinnies
But, again, who knows? He could get the ah bit of luck ah and just all of sudden pop off and get 80 every week again. So he could, again, be a bit of a pod. AFB is probably an interesting one to discuss a bit more detail.
00:26:27
Tackles and Tinnies
Sharks are looking good. They've got desirable draw. Again, he can find a meat pie on any day of the week. He could be a direct swap with Keon if you've got Keon in the FRF or you can work make your duels work, whatever.
00:26:41
Tackles and Tinnies
Would you buy AFB for Keon or Dylan Lucas?
00:26:46
Chris
See, I would say no. ah would I don't rate him. He's just not looking as dangerous as he has in previous years. But the reason why I bring him up is because Adam and I talking yesterday and he and I said, hey, you could you could say sell AFB. And he was like, no, I'm definitely keeping him.
00:27:03
Chris
He's definitely keeping him. So um he knows more than me. He knows something. Adam just simply said, um just make sure you check Sharky's numbers before you get him because he does have a buy in round 25 and you could be in trouble. You have Nico and Braley the same time and and one of their back line because that will be you know two, three, four players.
00:27:20
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah.
00:27:21
Chris
Yeah.
00:27:21
Tackles and Tinnies
And Nicarag potentially as well as another option there.
00:27:23
Chris
Yes. Yes. Yeah.
00:27:24
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah.
00:27:25
Chris
Who sadly is out. I'm so disappointed. i have him, but the one, the one game I really want him for, he's not available for me.
00:27:27
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah.
00:27:32
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah.
00:27:32
Chris
What can you do?
00:27:32
Tackles and Tinnies
Literally. i I did say in the group chat, I'm like, oh, not vibing Nikara this week. And then all of sudden gets that HIO.
00:27:39
Chris
Yep.
00:27:40
Tackles and Tinnies
So if you listened in the group chat, you would be welcome. ah Some other guys, Cameron Munster's obviously not playing this week due to his father's past. He's got the funeral. It's obviously ah r RIP.
00:27:53
Tackles and Tinnies
Thoughts are with you, Cameron Munster. But that also, again, leads to a juicy sort of conversation.
00:27:58
Chris
Mm-hmm.
00:27:59
Tackles and Tinnies
Again, I sort of talked to Jake a couple weeks ago, maybe so I can't remember if you were there. Ethan Strange. and Okay. Obviously, Raiders got the bye next week, I believe, which is not ideal or two weeks away, either or.
00:28:09
Chris
Mm-hmm.
00:28:14
Tackles and Tinnies
But Ethan Strange, he's getting better and better every single week. Great running game. Winning team. That's the key. Winning team. And they're looking good. pardon me. um What are your thoughts if you want to go sort of a ah downgrade or sideways trade from Money Munster to an Ethan Strange or a Jaden Campbell sort of swapping because the Titans are absolutely abysmal. What are your thoughts there?
00:28:37
Chris
Yeah, look, Ethan Strange, he's an interesting one because his base is his base is low. That's where the concern lies. and And he has the ability to go massive because you know he had that 142 game when he goal kicked as well.
00:28:51
Chris
um I put him in the same category as KO Weeks. And a lot of people would be wanting to get KO Weeks instead as opposed to Ethan Strange.
00:28:56
Tackles and Tinnies
Yep.
00:29:00
Chris
I don't think he's bad at all. you know um I think that... To be honest, i think he' I think he's worth a look for next year.
00:29:10
Tackles and Tinnies
yep
00:29:10
Chris
Just not diss at the moment because he's stuck at that kind of middle price tag. Like if I had to, if I was looking for a cheaper five-eighths, I'd probably try to go at this point of the year.
00:29:22
Chris
I try to go with somebody that was a little bit ah more reliable because the problem is that it's hard to find time, find space to play Ethan strange because you don't know when going to go off and, and not.
00:29:30
Tackles and Tinnies
Yep. Yep.
00:29:33
Chris
And I'd probably be looking either at Galvin or Tanner Boyd, Galvin being at 444 K, which is, you know similar price to Ethan strange, but, but Tanner Boyd's lot better at 329 K.
00:29:45
Chris
This is, this is the week to get him. If you really want him to downgrade,
00:29:48
Tackles and Tinnies
Is he though? Is Tanner Boyd really that good? Tell you what, the Warriors fans are absolutely laughing because he was abysmal in the last five minutes. No offence, mate, but he was not good in the last five minutes.
00:29:58
Chris
Yep.
00:30:00
Tackles and Tinnies
And he got absolutely saved by Leckie Halimaseema doing that try.
00:30:05
Chris
ye
00:30:06
Tackles and Tinnies
Sort of masked his pitfalls. And again, that's sort of why other clubs such as my a lovely Gold Coast Highton sort of let him go. Yeah, i would not be touching Tanner Boyd, especially Supercoach-wise.
00:30:18
Chris
See, like, the reason why I'd say, because, you know, obviously scored 70 and 47, like, in the last two weeks. Like, he can get you out pinch if you need him. Like, for example, if Munster wasn't to play, oh, sorry, if your 5'8 wasn't to play again or they got injured and you needed a second, you know, 5'8 to play just in a pinch, I think he would do a good job for you.
00:30:36
Chris
and And it's a good downgrade option.
00:30:36
Tackles and Tinnies
Yep.
00:30:38
Tackles and Tinnies
Yep.
00:30:38
Chris
That's only reason.
00:30:39
Chris
Yeah. I would argue that even though he's not, he's not a great player again, it's good team with a very, very good buy. Sorry. Very, very good ah ah fixture set of fixtures.
00:30:51
Chris
You know, they played Gold Coast this week and then Dolphins, Bulldogs, ah Dragons, ah Gold Coast again, Para. So some, some like kind of bottom, bottom feeder teams in that, in that group, you know, admittedly.
00:31:04
Tackles and Tinnies
yeah
00:31:05
Chris
So, You know, he could get to one, two free tri-assist, all of sudden you've got another 70, 80, which is kind not too bad, really, for 329K.
00:31:12
Tackles and Tinnies
yeah
00:31:12
Chris
Yeah. yeah
00:31:14
Tackles and Tinnies
Yep. And I think, ah Chris, might be ah this might not be the best conversation for you because this might hurt your soul a bit too much. But Lockie Galvin, we have to talk about him in a bit more detail. We do it every podcast. It is tradition here.
00:31:28
Tackles and Tinnies
um Lockie Galvin, $444,000. Again, 5-8 only, playing halfback, which is worthy to note. He scored 86 points. four hundred and forty four thousand dollars um
00:31:36
Chris
so
00:31:37
Tackles and Tinnies
again five out only but he is playing halfback ah which is worthy to note he's score eighty six points
00:31:40
Chris
yeah
00:31:44
Tackles and Tinnies
He's got 11 break even, projected to make 30k this week. Obviously, money's not the probably the biggest issue for a lot of people. But now he's, I guess, cemented that halfback position in, again, a winning team.
00:31:57
Tackles and Tinnies
Got bailed out sort of in a couple of places, especially in that last cutout ball, which was like fantastic, don't be wrong, but definitely bailed out in terms of his score. What are your thoughts on Galvin?
00:32:08
Chris
Yeah, I'm not against him at all. I think he's not taking the line on as much and offloading as much as he did last year when he was playing with the Tigers. That's my only thing.
00:32:22
Chris
um But I think he's always class with that. but that with that final try assist he had, threw the wall to the left, to the winger. That was pretty, that was pretty sweet.
00:32:32
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
00:32:34
Chris
I don't, I, I'm not against you punting and just going for it.
00:32:34
Tackles and Tinnies
yeah
00:32:38
Chris
You know, if you have the money really. Yeah. But, um, i would I would argue that, again, i can't imagine you wanting to play him in the next because his bit his his fixtures aren't that great, to be honest.
00:32:53
Chris
So, therefore, I would say, yeah, that's $444 is a bit more money. You could you could keep that $110K if you were just to get Tana Boyd and just pray that your other fits okay.
00:33:02
Tackles and Tinnies
yeah
00:33:05
Chris
That's what I would say.
00:33:05
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah, yeah ah
00:33:06
Chris
Yeah.
00:33:09
Tackles and Tinnies
I kind of like it, to be honest. i Like, he's going to get heaps of ball, heaps of opportunity, gun team, and he's only 5% owned.
00:33:11
Chris
Yeah.
00:33:16
Tackles and Tinnies
I think, again, everyone's teams look at did exactly the same. So getting those pods in there, again, prime example, scored 86 points on the weekend. I think you could average probably 65 to 80 points on a regular, which, again, is fantastic value for what he's currently worth.
00:33:34
Tackles and Tinnies
And that's why I make the argument against Tanner Boyd where Tanner Boyd might get 50. At least you got the upside of Galvin.
00:33:39
Chris
Yep.
00:33:41
Tackles and Tinnies
And again, good team.
00:33:41
Chris
Yep.
00:33:43
Tackles and Tinnies
We want good players in good teams. And again, thank you, Josh Randall, because I picked him up in draft, ah which was absolutely fantastic.
00:33:46
Chris
Yeah.
00:33:51
Tackles and Tinnies
So thank you, brother. ah
00:33:53
Chris
I was just looking at the draw as well, but I'll just briefly say to the listeners, um they play Manly this week and then they play Tigers. Which I would say fair. Like I would definitely maybe consider playing him for against Tigers, but, and then New Zealand. Yeah, maybe.
00:34:08
Chris
But then Sydney, Melbourne, Penrith and Sharks. I can't, I feel like going to bench him and I can't imagine you playing him unless there were huge mass arrestings in rounds 26 and 27 is what would say.
00:34:18
Chris
what i would say
00:34:19
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah. But then Galvin probably doesn't play anyway because you've got Toby Sexton just to go straight in. So, yeah, that's an interesting one. And another one, bit smoky here,
00:34:30
Tackles and Tinnies
but Tylan May. Okay, so we've got Terrell, but this is his brother Tylan. Obviously, he'd be going a week early, but at 444k, mate, as a Tiger supporter, bloody hell, he looked that good.
00:34:43
Tackles and Tinnies
I was so, so high on him last year after that World Club Challenge with the Panthers just losing in the ah final seconds. But Tyler May, literally give him the ball, let him cook.
00:34:57
Tackles and Tinnies
He looked that good. What are your thoughts on Tyler May at
00:35:02
Chris
Oh, yeah, man. i've I've always been high on the yam, like real high on him, like, like you know, from his Penrith days. he's like Like, I know he's good. like I just can't believe he's fallen to our laps. Like, I know he's good, but he looked great.
00:35:13
Chris
But you've got to remember, you know, the opposition he played with, you know, that against, you know, that's, I think that's possibly why he looked real good as well, you know. So, 10 for your expectations.
00:35:24
Tackles and Tinnies
do that to me, Chris.
00:35:27
Chris
10 for your expectations. We'll see him again against, I guess, Penrith this week. And I think if if he looks good against Penrith, 100%. Yeah, 100%.
00:35:38
Chris
Because he's against Liam Martin this week as well and Ryan Toto and Tungle. So if if he produces, I think, yeah, then maybe maybe jump him.
00:35:49
Chris
I'd probably say jump him on draft, actually, is what I'd say.
00:35:51
Tackles and Tinnies
yeah
00:35:52
Chris
and don't think many people would be. Yeah, put a waiver on him, is what I'd say, this week.
00:35:54
Tackles and Tinnies
Do you reckon Liam Martin plays this week on top of that?
00:35:55
Chris
Yeah.
00:35:58
Tackles and Tinnies
Because Liam Martin is named at 19th man.
00:36:01
Chris
Oh, is he in the Okay.
00:36:03
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah.
00:36:03
Chris
I apologize.
00:36:03
Tackles and Tinnies
We've got Garner and Papali'i, but surely, yeah.
00:36:04
Chris
I thought he was named at 12th. Oh, yes, it was. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Oh, even then, Luka. Oh, no, would be. I reckon Luka who'd play. Yeah, I reckon Luka is pretty really solid defensively as well.
00:36:15
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah.
00:36:16
Chris
So if he can score against those three, yeah, yeah. Lock him in. You can go for a bye, especially in draft. Yeah.
00:36:22
Tackles and Tinnies
Oh, man, I honestly reckon he's a bit foolproof. And I love skeleton outside him too. Like, again, Titans didn't look too great defensively, but...
00:36:28
Chris
yeah
00:36:30
Tackles and Tinnies
If he can get one-on-one with his winger skeleton, he's probably going to score majority of the time. So he's going to get that try assist here and there as well, as well as, again, getting um his opportunities himself.
00:36:42
Tackles and Tinnies
Luai, him, and ah skeleton on the wing. That's kind of a nice little ah left-hand side you've got going there. So as a Tigers fan, mate, I think you'll be absolutely laughing going into the future.
00:36:53
Tackles and Tinnies
And Terrell and him combining, you've got to love it.
00:36:53
Chris
Yeah.
00:36:55
Tackles and Tinnies
You've got to love the brothers connecting.
00:36:57
Chris
Nope.
00:36:57
Tackles and Tinnies
ah Good to see if Gerbo and Turbo could do that a little bit more often or Burbo as well. ah Yeah, it's good to see the Mayboys starting to cook.
00:37:08
Chris
No, was nice. Yeah, no, was I was going to say it was nice seeing Terrell feeding Taylor.
00:37:13
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah.
00:37:14
Chris
Yeah, a few times later, I was like, ah don't think you need to pass through his market team, just looking for him. Yeah, which I thought was funny.
00:37:18
Tackles and Tinnies
It's a wild though, like absolutely wild.
00:37:20
Chris
Yeah. Yeah.
00:37:21
Tackles and Tinnies
ah Okay, another smoky one, Jermaine Hopgood. So annoying that he's not a FRF, TRF dual, but he's obviously but bottomed, bottomed out in price. He's currently a tick under $400,000.
00:37:37
Tackles and Tinnies
I think his minutes will start potentially increasing and I do love him way more in a simplistic role at front row. What are your thoughts on a bit of a pod if you've got the trains for Jermaine Hopgood?
00:37:50
Chris
um yeah uh don't touch him sorry uh
00:37:57
Tackles and Tinnies
Bad pod.
00:38:00
Chris
Oh, no, like, he's, like, no, he's, you know, like, ah as I heard somebody on a podcast say today, Jermaine Propgood. um
00:38:07
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah. Yeah.
00:38:08
Chris
Yeah. ah No, like, no, he's a good player. and since since he's vein Since he's been playing at front row forward, like, you know, he's been averaging well. But um I would say that ah there are just better two ah RFs available, that's all.
00:38:23
Tackles and Tinnies
yeah
00:38:23
Chris
and and And he's not offloading. That's a problem. That's where a lot of his benefits come from, him offloading, which means that he then gets tri-assisted and stuff like that over the last few years that he just hasn't had this year. that's
00:38:36
Tackles and Tinnies
yeah
00:38:36
Chris
That's the issue. So there's not much upside to him. It's a little bit like... um patty carrigan who's been averaging 67 and i think he's the number eight most bought in player in in the top one percent and i think it's seventh most in the top 10 or something like that like i can see why they're buying him because he's he's cheap he's like five he's like 570k something like that and
00:38:42
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah.
00:38:46
Tackles and Tinnies
yeah
00:38:56
Chris
He's averaging 67, but like, there's no upside to him. He'll get you your money. Like if you're, if funnily enough, if you're thinking about like getting somebody like a Jermaine Hopgood, then I think you actually better off getting Isaiah. Yo really.
00:39:12
Chris
We've a little bit more upside. And I think he's a bit cheaper. It's something like five 50 K or something like that.
00:39:17
Tackles and Tinnies
And the minutes, mate.
00:39:17
Chris
Yeah.
00:39:17
Tackles and Tinnies
And the minutes. Like, Hopko's going to get 60 minutes max.
00:39:19
Chris
Yeah. Yeah.
00:39:21
Tackles and Tinnies
um We've seen throughout the whole entire year, actually, he's been getting like 35 minutes. So, obviously, his minutes look like they potentially could be ticking up ah with some mass changes in that squad. But, yeah, Isaiah, that's a great shout, mate. Great shout.
00:39:35
Chris
ye Yeah, it's a shame. I just don't have the, I just, have I don't have the, don't have the trays for it and he's a bit boring. It's like missionary. Like it just, know, like, yeah.
00:39:43
Tackles and Tinnies
If you had to choose between missionary one and missionary two, and by that I mean Isaiah Yeo and Paddy Carrigan, who would you pick out of those two? Because again, I've got to get Keon out eventually, and I'm definitely looking at a guy like that. Again, they're so durable.
00:39:59
Tackles and Tinnies
that's
00:39:59
Chris
Yes.
00:40:00
Tackles and Tinnies
I'm crafting all the wood on my desk right now. They're so durable. We don't know when you're here. Who would you pick?
00:40:07
Chris
I reckon,
00:40:10
Chris
I can see, maybe I just take back everything I said two minute a minute ago because I'm going to pick Carrigan actually, funnily enough. Only because i think it's, i just the restings, just mostly the restings potentially that Isaiah Yo could get.
00:40:21
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah.
00:40:25
Chris
they you know But the truth is that I think if you if you if you had to had to take the risk, i think you're better off getting Yo, honestly, than Carrigan.
00:40:34
Tackles and Tinnies
yeah
00:40:34
Chris
Yep.
00:40:34
Tackles and Tinnies
I think, yeah, it's hard. think there's more upside potentially with Yo. However, Carrigan with the dual, invaluable.
00:40:45
Chris
Yeah, that's actually, yeah, that is that is a good one.
00:40:45
Tackles and Tinnies
Invaluable.
00:40:47
Chris
Yeah.
00:40:48
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah. So again, i think... Carrigan for that reason alone, if you've got low trades like myself, you've got three or less trades, I probably would get that dual. Because Keyon to Paddy, then you've got that flexibility still with the FRF 2RF dual.
00:41:05
Tackles and Tinnies
um And then again, you can flip guys, Tino, Ethan Roberts, whoever you've got, Aaron Clark, um those type of boys. You can just flip them around. Again, people going have to hold Tino like myself.
00:41:16
Tackles and Tinnies
um Yeah, having that flexibility, I think, with Paddy Carrigan. And again, good player. winning team so yeah old reliable old missionary we do like the missionary here so is there any other boys mate you want to talk about
00:41:22
Chris
Yeah.
00:41:26
Chris
Yeah.
00:41:32
Chris
oh Oh, not really. don The other only other thing was I thought it was interesting um that Purdue was back at centre. So just yay for drinky owners, you know, scores will go up.
00:41:44
Tackles and Tinnies
yeah
00:41:47
Chris
Although ah duff Tom Duffy is playing, so he may he might just take all the goal kicking as well. So, yeah, yeah. And that's really it, really.
00:41:53
Tackles and Tinnies
I think there's one other conversational point that might be worth having. Again, sort of relates that to our ref situation that we got going with Lucas and Keyon, potentially Tino as well.
00:42:05
Tackles and Tinnies
The Raiders are second rowers. So Hosking and Hudson Young, I think it's a good talking point because I've got both.
00:42:09
Chris
yeah
00:42:15
Tackles and Tinnies
What can I say? Both are good. Okay. Both are good. If you had to pick one, who would you go? And again, we can look at Hudson Young's potential osteopubus injury. Again, for the listeners who listened last week, I've had it last year.
00:42:31
Tackles and Tinnies
Essentially, when you're not warmed up, it's really hard to move. But once you're warm, it's not too bad. And again, he's getting medical-grade steroids and cortisone and you name it. He's got something in there to make him run.
00:42:43
Tackles and Tinnies
um Who would you pick? Hosking looked great last week.
00:42:47
Chris
Yeah, no, um he did. He really did. I wish I didn't leave him on the pine. Yeah. um
00:42:52
Tackles and Tinnies
Draft and classic.
00:42:53
Chris
Last week. Yeah. Yeah. Like I liked how Hosking, you know, he started at, you know, to RF and then, and then, and then he moved into the middle when, when Joey taps went off. And then even though, and then he got arrested as well himself at about 60 minutes and he came on, came back on in like the 70th minute.
00:43:09
Chris
You know, I like how Ricky does that often. i think he does that often with Tom Starling as well. um But I think it has to be hands down Hudson Young. He looked real good last week. He scored 65.
00:43:21
Chris
ah Great draw. But um the thing is that he's not at rotation risk, I feel, compared to Zach Hosking, who who also isn't technically at rotation risk.
00:43:27
Tackles and Tinnies
Yes.
00:43:32
Chris
But the issue is that Matty Nicholson is due back, I think, in one or two rounds. And if that happens, then the question is, yeah.
00:43:37
Tackles and Tinnies
I'm literally looking that up right now, mate.
00:43:39
Chris
Yeah, I think he's back in one or two rounds and then that's your problem because he'll have to he'll start have to start losing wholl have to start losing minutes when Matty Nicholson comes back.
00:43:44
Tackles and Tinnies
Round 23. Literally
00:43:51
Chris
He might still play, but um yeah.
00:43:52
Tackles and Tinnies
doing.
00:43:55
Chris
Yeah, he might still play, be um he definitely won't play the minutes he's been playing with.
00:43:55
Tackles and Tinnies
mit
00:43:59
Chris
He'll have to share that role with him.
00:44:00
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah. I'd say Nicholson comes off the bench.
00:44:01
Chris
So therefore, yeah.
00:44:02
Tackles and Tinnies
So yeah, maybe 50, 55 minutes for Hosking.
00:44:06
Chris
Yeah.
00:44:07
Tackles and Tinnies
Not ideal. Not ideal.
00:44:08
Chris
Yeah. Yeah. um I guess it doesn't matter if he keeps scoring tries. You know, it just gets automatic 30 every week as well.
00:44:12
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah.
00:44:14
Chris
You know, that, you know, it bails him out, but um yeah, you definitely go Huddy Young. Yeah.
00:44:20
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah. Yeah. Harder Young's absolute gun. Um, Maybe one more boy. And again, Jake, this might hurt the heartstrings. And Chris, I know you can empathize with me here too, mate.
00:44:31
Tackles and Tinnies
But Clint Gutherson, King Gutho, finally. He showed some signs of life. Even without my boy Christian Turpolotu, the money man.
00:44:42
Tackles and Tinnies
Didn't need him. He's back. King Gutho, what are your
00:44:46
Chris
No, just no.
00:44:48
Tackles and Tinnies
thoughts?
00:44:49
Chris
Like, i mean, like, look, if you like, again, look, like I said last week, if you're a Dragons fan, you can get him. Just like Reece Walsh, if you're a Brisbane Broncos fan, you know, go get him, you know.
00:44:57
Tackles and Tinnies
yeah
00:45:01
Chris
Super coach is more than just getting points. Sometimes it's just, say, getting a player that you like. But why would you get him when you've got Edwards, Teddy, Drinky? Yeah, that's just, yeah.
00:45:11
Tackles and Tinnies
520k, mate.
00:45:12
Chris
Yeah. Anyway.
00:45:12
Tackles and Tinnies
He's looking good.
00:45:15
Chris
Like, he's not going to score. Oh, yeah. Look, yeah. Look, fine.
00:45:19
Tackles and Tinnies
Three-round average of 67.
00:45:20
Chris
Sure. Sure. Sure. Sure, listeners.
00:45:23
Tackles and Tinnies
he tries hard. He's got that NO. Your NO, maybe not athleticism, he's got NO.
00:45:29
Chris
Yeah.
00:45:31
Chris
Yeah. Fine, listeners. Yeah, get him whilst before he retires at the end of the season.
00:45:34
Tackles and Tinnies
to
00:45:35
Chris
Yeah. so
00:45:37
Tackles and Tinnies
Fuck, he looks so slow, mate. He actually looks that slow. I would like to see him at 5-8, to be honest. A bit of a transition. I don't know how good his longer-range kicking game is.
00:45:48
Tackles and Tinnies
and obviously, King Tonga, he's been good. So I don't want to see him lose his job. But yeah, I think Gutherson going into five eight next year could be a thing.
00:45:52
Chris
yeah
00:45:57
Tackles and Tinnies
what are your thoughts there?
00:45:58
Chris
I actually quite like that, actually. ah You're right. i i Yeah, because that's what is what's elite about him, obviously, is he is his obviously his endurance, but also just his passing game is very, very good, and his decision-making.
00:46:10
Tackles and Tinnies
Yep.
00:46:11
Chris
I really, really like it. yeah but i Yeah, you're right. I don't think it's going to happen. you know you know I drop him for um for Carl Flanagan, but you know daddy won't Daddy won't let that happen, for sure.
00:46:21
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah, 100%. Daddy Flano. ah I think that's most of the boys. Let's ah have a quick conversation about captains, mate.
00:46:21
Chris
Yeah.
00:46:35
Chris
Yeah.
00:46:35
Tackles and Tinnies
Who are you looking at, Captain C, this week? And I swear to God, if you say Dylan Edwards, I'm punching the screen.
00:46:41
Chris
Nah, I'm, I'm look, I'm just caffining Nico. Like just, yeah, like I'll, I'll, I'll probably VC drink you or Edwards, but it doesn't even matter to me.
00:46:49
Tackles and Tinnies
Let's go.
00:46:52
Chris
I'm not even thinking about it Look, it's going to be this. I'm, I'm hoping for, you know, a replete. I'm going to play it, make the same play as I did last week. I Nico against Souths.
00:47:04
Chris
And I'm just hoping he goes bang. If, if Edwards can go one 70 free, surely, you know, yeah ah We're looking at 200 with Nico.
00:47:12
Tackles and Tinnies
Will Souths be better now because Jai Gray's back, though? They haven't got Alex Johnson back there. Jai Gray's pretty savvy in defense.
00:47:20
Chris
Yeah. Nah, nah, it's the rest of the team.
00:47:22
Tackles and Tinnies
yeah
00:47:23
Chris
They're just all decimated.
00:47:23
Tackles and Tinnies
ah
00:47:24
Chris
Like there's only so much you can do.
00:47:25
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah, 100%.
00:47:26
Chris
Really? um That's what I think. you know Actually, can I just actually shout out to so Alex Johnson? I actually thought he looked real good, actually, at fullback these last few weeks. I i don't know if you agree me or not, but to yeah.
00:47:36
Tackles and Tinnies
Well, shout out to Alex Johnson, man. He got extended to 2027. So he's probably guaranteed um that or ultimate try scoring record.
00:47:41
Chris
Ah, yeah.
00:47:45
Tackles and Tinnies
So that'd be fantastic. Obviously, touch wood, no injuries. ah
00:47:48
Chris
Yep.
00:47:49
Tackles and Tinnies
But yeah, that'd be fantastic if he'd go more than likely going to get that probably by the end of season, which is absolutely fantastic.
00:47:55
Chris
Yeah. But um yeah, they're they're my forwards.
00:47:59
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah.
00:47:59
Chris
There are some really good juicy matchups this week. You know, if you want to be super safe, you can, you know, Captain Payne Haas against Para. You know, you can choose one of the New Zealand guys against Gold Coast. I don't really think there's anybody, you know, ah really of irrelevance, you know, against Gold Coast.
00:48:14
Chris
ah Sorry, I get for New Zealand.
00:48:14
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah. Yeah.
00:48:15
Chris
You can do ah RTS, but he hasn't tripled at all this year. as well you could also go Cleary against uh against the Tigers but yeah or even Braley against the Sharks but I don't think you would go sorry against um sorry Braley against the um against Souths but I think you'd go Nico before you go Braley
00:48:29
Tackles and Tinnies
That's smoky chat. Ray Lee at captain. That is absolute smoky chat. ah I've currently got Cleary as my VC with that juicy Tigers matchup.
00:48:40
Tackles and Tinnies
But tell you, going to be pretty quick on the trigger because the next game straight after is the yeah South Sydney versus the Sharkies.
00:48:41
Chris
yep
00:48:48
Tackles and Tinnies
And... um Screw it. I'm going Nico again. Let's go back to back Nico Hines.
00:48:53
Chris
Yeah, let's go.
00:48:53
Tackles and Tinnies
If I'm riding for Dylan Edwards' sadness from last week, I may as well just double down and get Nico Hines. Probably going to cap him every week just for the morale.
00:49:06
Chris
ye Here's a question. um Let's say ah Cleary goes off. How much does he have to score for you not to loop, for you to loop him?
00:49:19
Tackles and Tinnies
It's tough one. Tough question, mate. I'm going to say 90. ninety
00:49:27
Chris
Yeah. Cool. I'm actually, ah funny I'm glad you said that. Yeah. I would, I having done this season now, I regret all the times I haven't looped over 80. I would honestly say something like that, like 90.
00:49:39
Chris
Yeah. Just loop him. doesn't matter if you miss out on points with Nico. I think the main, yeah. The, just take the points where possible. Yeah.
00:49:45
Tackles and Tinnies
And it's just, well, i will know because if Kane Bradley also plays and he gets a shit score, then I can least put that into the equation too of the ae
00:49:52
Chris
Oh yeah.
00:49:54
Tackles and Tinnies
um But if Kane Bradley doesn't play, I'm just a full squad, like with one flex.
00:49:55
Chris
Yep.
00:50:00
Chris
yep
00:50:00
Tackles and Tinnies
So that does make it a little bit easier because then I have like either Turbo, Jerome Hughes, Aaron Clark or Sandon.
00:50:00
Chris
Yeah. Yep.
00:50:08
Tackles and Tinnies
So it's like, yeah, I'll be all right there. But I think, yeah, Nico Hines, mate, he's the one. Let's all right and ride Ride him together. Let's ride into battle.
00:50:20
Tackles and Tinnies
I'm a bit nervous, but I think it's the only way forward. Again, as you mentioned, Morgon, know you're listening, brother, but Rabideaux's a trash. So get on board, team. Get on board.
00:50:31
Chris
I think Morgan's even realized that. he's I think he's converted for the rest of the season to a Bronco. I think he's admitted he's he's now a Bronco supporter until the end of the season.
00:50:37
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah.
00:50:40
Chris
Yeah.
00:50:40
Tackles and Tinnies
Literally, man, it's so bad for the Ravis, man. like Injury after injury after injury, like so, so, so bad.
00:50:47
Chris
you
00:50:48
Tackles and Tinnies
And again, I forgot to mention earlier, like i did see I had man flu. or like Pretty much we had the podcast, mate, last week. And then Wednesday, next day, I was feeling tired. Thursday, was like, nah, absolute meg man flu hit me real bad.
00:51:01
Tackles and Tinnies
And then I saw Latrell Mitchell. He was out. I'm like... I probably should do something. I was like, I need to make the trade. I'll reverse the trade. I just forgot. So, disclaimer was there. i was going to go back to Edwards, but Nico Hines, won't tell you.
00:51:16
Tackles and Tinnies
yeah
00:51:19
Tackles and Tinnies
oh
00:51:19
Chris
Oh, this Edwards non-traders really got to you, for sure.
00:51:21
Tackles and Tinnies
Bro, if you were, mate, I was whinging so bad to Laura.
00:51:22
Chris
Yep. How did Laura
00:51:26
Tackles and Tinnies
Like, every, like, five minutes, I was like, this bullshit. I've got 48 hours to grieve about this. Let me have my whinge.
00:51:33
Chris
go this week? Jesus!
00:51:35
Tackles and Tinnies
um But, yeah, mate, Nico Hines.
00:51:36
Chris
how did laura go this week
00:51:38
Tackles and Tinnies
oh Bro, don't give me a start. which Bro, she's on, like, 1420. I think she's, like, I've got to get her score up.
00:51:47
Chris
jesus
00:51:48
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah, she's on the pod next week, mate. She can take my job. Like, it's absolutely great.
00:51:51
Chris
I was going to say, you replace it with your better half? Yeah.
00:51:54
Tackles and Tinnies
But i I literally said to her, I'm not helping you at the start of next season.
00:51:54
Chris
but
00:51:58
Tackles and Tinnies
And then then when your team's shit from the start, then you can come have a chat with me. Because obviously to everything I've said on this podcast, I get her to do my plan B trade. And the plan B trade, without a doubt, has just been killer.
00:52:14
Tackles and Tinnies
Like, absolutely killer. Her team's stacked. She's got like four or five trades left. And she only needs to trade if there's an injury. So... she'll get to round 20 she's got one boost right she's got a boost left like that's how crazy it is don't even know what to say
00:52:28
Chris
ah Oh, first year luck. First year luck. That's all I can say.
00:52:33
Tackles and Tinnies
no it's bullshit i'm clipping this up i'm making this a real you're doing your own team next year by yourself so um but chris any final words mate
00:52:47
Chris
na not really. um Yeah. All aboard the Nico, Nico train. Really? Yeah.
00:52:52
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah.
00:52:52
Chris
Hopefully next week we'll, we'll be super, super pleased, super pleased that we did that.
00:52:52
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah.
00:52:56
Tackles and Tinnies
yeah
00:52:57
Chris
Yeah.
00:52:57
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah, or we're raging. It's one or the other. um
00:53:01
Chris
yeah
00:53:01
Tackles and Tinnies
Yeah, Tackles and Tinnies, thank you very much. Another episode of Fantasy Files, round 21. We are flying through the season.
00:53:11
Chris
Thank you.
00:53:13
Tackles and Tinnies
Again, ah we're making those comments on Instagram and um TikTok more so especially, but wherever your platform you want, you can even reply on um the Apple Podcast or Spotify comments and we'll get through there too.
00:53:25
Tackles and Tinnies
Again, want to hear your trades. want to hear your bad takes. If you want to join the ah hashtag Edwards Graveyard train, come with me because I'm sad. So that's Tackles and Titties, guys.
00:53:38
Tackles and Tinnies
Appreciate your time tonight. Enjoy your week. Good luck. ah Thanks, Chris. Appreciate you, mate.