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Final Fancy Boys 2025 Pod, League Championship
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Hear how our season finished this year, some discussion about next year and hear from our special guest.
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Podcast Finale & Guest Introduction
00:00:03
Mags
So,
00:00:07
Edgar and Daryll
Oh, it hurts. Welcome in to Between Popos with Mr. Darryl and Edgar.
00:00:21
Edgar and Daryll
Welcome in, guys. Final pod. It's sad. It's a sad day. How are you, Darryl?
00:00:29
Daryll Garcia
What up, what up? You know, I'll tell you what. There is a silver lining.
00:00:36
Edgar and Daryll
There is a silver lining to losing?
00:00:36
Daryll Garcia
We were on the podium. Yeah, were on the podium. We were on the podium.
00:00:40
Edgar and Daryll
Oh, okay. that's That's true, I guess. Well, today, guys, we have a tree.
00:00:44
Daryll Garcia
We could put it in the stat book.
00:00:47
Edgar and Daryll
We could put it in the stand book, yes. We have a tree with us. We have the, you know, champion, Mr. McGuire, the commish. Say hello.
00:00:58
Mags
What up, what up boys? Daryl, number two, thank you for having me on guys.
00:01:00
Edgar and Daryll
oh man.
00:01:01
Daryll Garcia
What up, man?
00:01:01
Edgar and Daryll
We got... the
00:01:04
Edgar and Daryll
course, no problem. You know, usually around this time of the season, we don't hear from you anymore. So it's kind of nice to hear from you and have you in the pod. So it's kind of, if that's what I had to sacrifice, then so be it.
00:01:17
Edgar and Daryll
So be it.
00:01:18
Mags
Yeah, it's a little different when you actually win. I've had so many heartbreaks over the years. I've done what I've needed to do to protect myself emotionally. And this year, it's a little bit different.
00:01:28
Edgar and Daryll
You know, i tell us.
00:01:28
Daryll Garcia
I'll tell you what's nice.
00:01:32
Daryll Garcia
You have one, two, and three on this pod right now.
00:01:38
Edgar and Daryll
That is true.
00:01:39
Daryll Garcia
Right?
00:01:39
Edgar and Daryll
The number one, the number two, and the number three.
00:01:40
Daryll Garcia
Yeah.
00:01:41
Edgar and Daryll
Yeah.
00:01:42
Daryll Garcia
This is a winning podcast.
00:01:42
Edgar and Daryll
Yeah.
00:01:44
Daryll Garcia
It's all about winning.
00:01:44
Edgar and Daryll
yeah It's good for the brand. It's good for the brand.
Champion's Plans & Support
00:01:49
Edgar and Daryll
I will say, Maguire, I want to congratulate you personally as the person that went up against you in the finale. I think it was fun.
00:01:57
Edgar and Daryll
You had a great season like you always do. And I also want to say, like, dude, it sucks being second. and and And you've been second like five times.
00:02:08
Edgar and Daryll
so so
00:02:09
Daryll Garcia
but
00:02:11
Edgar and Daryll
So I feel for you, Maguire.
00:02:11
Mags
Yeah. Thank you. Welcome to my world. now Now you understand why I go dark mode every off season. Imagine the feeling that you had this year five times.
00:02:21
Edgar and Daryll
Oh, my gosh. i You know, i think i I didn't feel like this when I got the Sacco. Like, I was kind of like, ah, you know, i got the Sacco, whatever, right? Like, and I won money, right? Like, I still came up positive, $150, but, man, it's a crappy feeling. It does not feel good.
00:02:41
Daryll Garcia
Is this like ah fantasy football edging? When you get second place so many times in a row.
00:02:45
Edgar and Daryll
my gosh.
00:02:48
Edgar and Daryll
Yeah, it just makes it so much better, huh? oh boy.
00:02:53
Daryll Garcia
Oh my gosh.
00:02:54
Edgar and Daryll
Well, how do you how do you feel? like what um Do you have any plans for that for those winnings, McGuire?
00:03:01
Mags
I did have plans. Your audience may not know, but I actually had a have new baby daughter born in December.
00:03:07
Edgar and Daryll
Mm-hmm.
00:03:08
Mags
And thank you.
00:03:08
Edgar and Daryll
Congrats, congrats.
00:03:09
Daryll Garcia
Congrats.
00:03:11
Mags
And I got sick about a week ago and couldn't leave my wife alone to take care of the baby. So I had to hire a postpartum doula for a few days to come take care of her.
00:03:19
Edgar and Daryll
Okay.
00:03:20
Mags
So that's $735 of my winnings out the door so
00:03:25
Daryll Garcia
Wow.
00:03:27
Mags
Yeah, yeah, not ideal.
00:03:28
Edgar and Daryll
Wow.
00:03:28
Mags
But I think with the remaining, what is $165, think I'm going to take my lovely wife to a nice dinner for her all the support she's shown throughout the year.
00:03:32
Edgar and Daryll
man
00:03:36
Edgar and Daryll
My gosh. Dude, I love it.
00:03:40
Daryll Garcia
Yeah, actually, as as ah as the champ, how did your wife actually take the news of you winning?
00:03:48
Mags
She was thrilled. ah Definitely has known me only to be a loser up until this point.
00:03:54
Daryll Garcia
yeah
00:03:55
Mags
She's seen the potential. She's trusted the process and always been very, very supportive and told me that I need to be more positive.
00:03:58
Edgar and Daryll
one
00:04:02
Mags
And I tried to do that this year. And i think in large part because of her support, I was able to finally pull it off.
00:04:08
Edgar and Daryll
Wow.
00:04:08
Daryll Garcia
Wow.
00:04:09
Daryll Garcia
Look at that.
00:04:09
Edgar and Daryll
ah love it. My guy's sending out good vibes for next year.
00:04:11
Daryll Garcia
That's nice.
00:04:13
Edgar and Daryll
hey I see you. I see you working the universe for next year.
00:04:15
Daryll Garcia
Yeah.
00:04:17
Edgar and Daryll
see you.
00:04:17
Mags
I'm also working.
00:04:17
Edgar and Daryll
woman
00:04:17
Daryll Garcia
hey
00:04:18
Mags
I'm also working my wife, Carol, because she will be listening this podcast.
00:04:22
Edgar and Daryll
Oh, there you go.
00:04:22
Daryll Garcia
Dude.
00:04:22
Edgar and Daryll
There you go.
00:04:23
Daryll Garcia
He's learned. That's a true champ right there.
00:04:24
Edgar and Daryll
Mm-hmm.
00:04:25
Daryll Garcia
That's
00:04:25
Edgar and Daryll
that is That is a true champ. That's a true, true champ. That's awesome, man.
00:04:28
Daryll Garcia
awesome.
00:04:28
Edgar and Daryll
Well,
Hypothetical Scenarios & Match Recap
00:04:29
Edgar and Daryll
that well um I'm happy that the money helped you guys out for sure.
00:04:29
Daryll Garcia
And what?
00:04:33
Edgar and Daryll
So I would have used it for a new golf club. So so it's better that it went to you guys than to me. I probably would have bought like a new golf bag and put it like fantasy football champion on it.
00:04:47
Mags
hey gar There's no set of golf clubs that can improve your game, so I'm glad you didn't waste that money.
00:04:47
Edgar and Daryll
um
00:04:52
Edgar and Daryll
No, you're, look, i I actually have, I have already told myself that I don't think that there's enough classes or equipment that can make me anything better than high 90s, low 100 player. And I'm okay with that. That's fine. You know, I'm putting all my eggs into my son.
00:05:12
Mags
Whoa.
00:05:13
Edgar and Daryll
man. Oh, so.
00:05:15
Mags
Hey, as long as you're having fun, that's all that matters.
00:05:15
Edgar and Daryll
Exactly, exactly. Exactly. All right, well, ah let's let's go ahead and move on with – I did a little small season recap, and let's just move on with that first, okay?
00:05:27
Daryll Garcia
Thank you.
00:05:28
Edgar and Daryll
So let's ah do the season finale recap.
00:05:30
Mags
Yes.
00:05:33
Edgar and Daryll
In Week 17, we had the Sacco matchup, Carlos versus Troy. Carlos was sure his team was going to pull through for him. However, Lamar and his hurt back did not play, and the rest of his team did not perform.
00:05:46
Edgar and Daryll
The only bright spot of his team was booty for hands as it took carries away from Hendo. Troy will now have another year without cardio as Carlos prepares to be McGuire's caddy.
00:05:57
Edgar and Daryll
Then we had the race for third place, the chance to get your money back. Tom Cinderella's story finally ran out as he had one of his worst scores of the season and could not secure his money back.
00:06:07
Mags
so
00:06:10
Edgar and Daryll
Finally, we have the final matchup, Goliath versus David. Unfortunately, this story was not like the Bible, and the rock in the sling came back and hit Edgar right in the eye.
00:06:21
Edgar and Daryll
The rock name was Dalton Schultz. The matchup was super close as the championship rose. ah As the championship rode on the manicure nails of Caleb Williams as he secured McGuire his very first championship and sent Edgar into a depression spiral.
00:06:39
Edgar and Daryll
The final
00:06:39
Mags
so
League Changes & Divisions
00:06:40
Edgar and Daryll
standings were McGuire, Edgar, Daryl, Tom, Alejandro Romo, and the rest of the scrubs, with Carlos as the biggest scrub of them all.
00:06:50
Edgar and Daryll
And that's a recap.
00:06:54
Daryll Garcia
Some big words in there for you. but He was like, manicured.
00:06:55
Edgar and Daryll
ah you Yeah, yeah i try to keep my words to less than 10, you know, letters, but sometimes I get a couple that are a little bigger that escape, you know? So.
00:07:06
Edgar and Daryll
i
00:07:06
Mags
yeah
00:07:07
Edgar and Daryll
yeah Oh, man. Well, ah that's, I mean, that was our season. It kind of created that Tom got fourth place, huh? Yeah.
00:07:17
Daryll Garcia
it hit it It was a Cinderella story for him. And it was, yes, the chance to get your money back after having the worst record, I think, and lowest scoring.
00:07:27
Edgar and Daryll
meaning
00:07:27
Daryll Garcia
That's kind of crazy. I do want to point out I won that trade, Tom.
00:07:28
Edgar and Daryll
Yeah.
00:07:29
Mags
it's really it's It's really just Kyle Pitts, though.
00:07:31
Edgar and Daryll
Go ahead.
00:07:33
Mags
I mean, let's be honest. Kyle Pitts is the only reason he was in there.
00:07:37
Edgar and Daryll
Sure, but he also... Well, no, you're right.
00:07:40
Mags
No offense, Tom.
00:07:41
Edgar and Daryll
Yeah, no you're i mean, you're not wrong. You're not wrong. Kyle Pitts is the reason. But he almost beat you, too. Like, he almost had you.
00:07:49
Mags
He did. He did. But he wouldn't have even been there without Kyle Pitts. That's all I'm saying.
00:07:53
Edgar and Daryll
Yeah, I mean...
00:07:53
Daryll Garcia
Hey, he went against the universe and what Kyle Pitts has been doing for the last how many years? And he put him in. That takes that tastes guts.
00:08:01
Edgar and Daryll
Oh yeah, big cojones Yeah, I mean you gotta shoot for the stars at that point, right?
00:08:02
Mags
That's true. Credit where it's due.
00:08:07
Edgar and Daryll
If you're last place, is like you might as well go for what your biggest upside, which is why I don't understand why he didn't play Jalen Warren Like I gave him Warren
00:08:14
Mags
Oh, here we go.
00:08:16
Daryll Garcia
It's probably the same reason why you didn't play Hunter Henry. but
00:08:19
Mags
oh
00:08:21
Edgar and Daryll
Oh boy Yeah. Well, okay, so I played Schultz because I wanted to have the potential of an emotional damaging win with Schultz against McGuire watching like you know the Texans beat the Chargers. So that's actually why I did it mostly.
00:08:41
Edgar and Daryll
will be I to get in your head, Brian.
00:08:41
Daryll Garcia
so you're just being mean. And the universe bit back. but
00:08:46
Mags
That's one of the dumbest strategies I think I've ever heard. i'm surprised I'm surprised even for you.
00:08:49
Edgar and Daryll
yeah
00:08:52
Edgar and Daryll
I know, but how sweet would have been if Schultz would have scored a touchdown? Like, how much would that had how much more would that have hurt if Schultz beat you in the final and they beat your Chargers, which they did, by the way?
00:09:03
Mags
it would it would have It would have, but what would have hurt more is if you'd played Hunter Henry against the Jets and you had one matchup.
00:09:09
Edgar and Daryll
Yeah, yeah that was that was hard.
00:09:11
Edgar and Daryll
That was tough. no I know. Well, speaking of alternate universe, Maguire, I'm
00:09:11
Daryll Garcia
Definitely wasn't thinking that.
00:09:15
Mags
Well,..........................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................
00:09:19
Edgar and Daryll
you know how we chatted about potential changes to the league and we always kind of talk stuff and 95% of the
00:09:19
Mags
this
Strategies & Engagement
00:09:27
Edgar and Daryll
time, nothing goes through.
00:09:28
Edgar and Daryll
Sometimes they do. Right. Um, and we've kind of chatted about divisions and we chatted about, um, maybe like the final two people going to the sack or just like different little things. Right.
00:09:42
Edgar and Daryll
Um, This one last thing that we mentioned a while back in a couple of texts was, you know, why not send the very last place straight to the SACO, just like we send the very first place to the second portion of the playoffs? I want to hear your thoughts on that.
00:10:00
Mags
I don't know honestly i don't have any strong thoughts on that um I mean, Tom made it to the wildcard being the last place team. And if we had gone with that strategy or that rule change this year, he wouldn't have had the chance to win his money back.
00:10:14
Daryll Garcia
strategy
00:10:19
Mags
And i don't know.
00:10:19
Edgar and Daryll
Sure.
00:10:20
Mags
i just, I'm not sure I feel like that opportunity should be taken away from everyone.
00:10:22
Edgar and Daryll
But I mean, we.
00:10:26
Mags
Like we we saw it this year. Everyone has a chance every week.
00:10:30
Edgar and Daryll
Sure, but we reward the top team by giving them that extra bye week. Right. So why not also punish the worst team?
00:10:37
Mags
Thank
00:10:39
Edgar and Daryll
Like why, if you have the very worst team, should you be allowed to have a chance? Like I get it. get that. Everybody should have a chance. Right.
00:10:47
Daryll Garcia
We like the chaos.
00:10:47
Edgar and Daryll
was But the yeah, the chaos is great. But in in theory, like wouldn't it also makes, I mean, to me it would kind of be, it would push people. And I know Tom said like, you know, I i played my matchups regardless, right? always put my best foot forward.
00:11:03
Edgar and Daryll
But I still think that maybe we should just let the last seed go straight into like the SACO tournament, not straight into the SACO championship, but the SACO tournament.
00:11:15
Edgar and Daryll
Just like we have the the number one buy. i don't know.
00:11:18
Mags
Yeah.
00:11:19
Daryll Garcia
you want to hear You want to hear a little bit of perspective if that did happen?
00:11:25
Mags
is this the Andrew Championship corollary?
00:11:28
Daryll Garcia
Oh, man, what a spoiler spoiler alert.
00:11:31
Edgar and Daryll
Oh, my gosh.
00:11:31
Daryll Garcia
but
00:11:32
Edgar and Daryll
Yeah. what would that What would have happened, Daryl?
00:11:33
Daryll Garcia
All right. All right. So um even if we didn't do the division playoffs and we we did it the way we did this year, which is... ah by record, right?
00:11:44
Mags
Thank
00:11:45
Daryll Garcia
It was by record and seeding. It would have been Maguire straight to the second round of the playoffs. I would have been in there, Romo, Alejandro, and and Edgar, i I believe would have been all The same people that were that would have went to the playoffs.
00:12:02
Daryll Garcia
Tom would have went straight to the SACO. And then you would have the the wild card.
00:12:04
Edgar and Daryll
Yep.
00:12:08
Daryll Garcia
Andrew would have won the wild card and during wild card week.
00:12:11
Edgar and Daryll
yep
00:12:12
Daryll Garcia
And so on the second round of playoffs, it would have been Andrew versus McGuire. And actually, during that week, Andrew would have beat Maguire.
00:12:24
Daryll Garcia
And so Andrew would have advanced. And then we all know the other teams that played, Edgar would have advanced to the championship. It would have been Andrew versus Edgar. And then Andrew actually outscored Edgar on the last week.
00:12:37
Edgar and Daryll
And he would have won for the first time.
00:12:40
Daryll Garcia
We would have had a new first-time champ.
00:12:45
Edgar and Daryll
What are what are your thoughts on that, Maguire?
00:12:47
Mags
Yeah, he texted me this, I think it may have been the night after I won. So he clearly had that on his mind.
00:12:53
Daryll Garcia
wait who did that?
00:12:53
Mags
I don't know, Andrew, no, Andrew.
00:12:54
Daryll Garcia
Edgar did?
00:12:55
Edgar and Daryll
Andrew.
00:12:57
Daryll Garcia
you didn't even let him celebrate his win?
00:12:57
Mags
Yeah. Maybe it was the next day, but it was it was pretty quick.
00:13:03
Edgar and Daryll
That's so funny.
00:13:03
Daryll Garcia
us
00:13:03
Edgar and Daryll
Yeah.
00:13:03
Mags
But I live in reality. I don't live in imaginary or hypothetical scenarios. So it's not really anything I've given any thought.
00:13:11
Edgar and Daryll
Sure. no no, no. I mean, i i don't disagree i don't disagree, right? Like living in hypotheticals or scenarios. But I just think that, like like to me, okay, if if sending someone to like last place straight to the cycle would have made no difference, right?
Divisions, Playoffs & League Setup
00:13:29
Edgar and Daryll
um Then it's one of those things that's like, okay, well, the person that was supposed to be there was there, right?
00:13:35
Edgar and Daryll
um But if we would have, then it would have changed things, right? in the league, right?
00:13:40
Mags
secondly
00:13:40
Edgar and Daryll
would have changed stuff. Now, when we talk about, like, divisions, like, i know we had we talked about, like, letting divisions actually kind of determine, you know, the first, the top two of each division makes it to the playoffs, and then the next...
00:13:42
Mags
um children
00:13:53
Edgar and Daryll
three or the next two, whatever it was, it's strictly by record, then they make it to the next spots of the playoffs.
00:13:57
Mags
Thank you.
00:14:00
Edgar and Daryll
And if we would have done it that way, it would have been exactly the same. Like the seating would have been exactly the same. Nothing would have changed. The matches would have been exactly the same. So to me, like... The argument of divisions, it's a little bit more likely because the me and Andrew were tied, but I had one extra divisional win than him, which made it so that I would have gone to the playoffs regardless over him.
00:14:23
Edgar and Daryll
But it could have changed, right? So I still think that the idea of having divisions would be still kind of appealing. i don't know. what What do you think about that, Maguire? Yeah.
00:14:36
Mags
I honestly, I don't have any thoughts at all. I i don't see a huge difference in the way that we do things. I'm still not really seeing the clear advantage to go into divisions other than the fact that it's kind of fun to have that divisional competitiveness.
00:14:48
Mags
And i just don't like the idea of a scrub team getting a guaranteed spot in the playoffs just because they happen to luck into this real poorly performing lower scoring division.
00:14:59
Edgar and Daryll
yeah
00:15:00
Daryll Garcia
Isn't that the same thing as the wild card, though? A scrub person getting a spot in the playoffs?
00:15:06
Mags
it It is, but we would have that person getting it in, and then we'd also have a wild card getting it in in this scenario, right?
00:15:08
Daryll Garcia
Yeah.
00:15:13
Mags
Because we're not getting rid of the wild cards. We'd have two potentially outlier teams in terms of overall ability at that point in the season, making it on and making it easier for the big big dogs at the top.
00:15:21
Edgar and Daryll
But then maybe though, maybe because like in in reality, like all I would have, I think all it changes is the matchups in the playoffs because we will still have the top two vita division, right?
00:15:27
Mags
for
00:15:35
Edgar and Daryll
Going forward. And then the next two who have the best record going to the playoffs. So you're still going to have your top six individuals make it to the playoffs.
00:15:45
Edgar and Daryll
And I think those top six are always going to have a better record than the bottom four that don't make it. They go straight into the wildcard or whatever it is, right? um
00:15:56
Daryll Garcia
Five go to the playoffs, not six, I think.
00:15:58
Edgar and Daryll
Okay, so that so basically the next five go to no.
00:15:59
Daryll Garcia
yes
00:16:02
Edgar and Daryll
I thought six make it to the playoffs.
00:16:04
Daryll Garcia
Maguire, me, Romo, Alejandro, and you. And then six ah the sixth person comes from the wild card.
00:16:13
Edgar and Daryll
Okay.
00:16:13
Daryll Garcia
Yeah. Yeah.
00:16:14
Edgar and Daryll
Yeah. I mean, I still think that, that that I mean, who knows, right? i Like I said, this year it wouldn't have mattered.
00:16:18
Mags
is
00:16:19
Edgar and Daryll
Everything would have been exactly the same for divisions. But you're right. It would make a little bit more of like a thrill of going against like your divisional matchup that could maybe potentially make a slight difference in and placement.
00:16:31
Edgar and Daryll
But um I don't know that it makes a huge difference. Enough to change it, right? But I just think it it was it was to be considered to like maybe... you know, take it into consideration again next year.
00:16:43
Edgar and Daryll
But...
00:16:44
Daryll Garcia
I think Edgar just wants to talk smack to his division rivals. but
00:16:47
Edgar and Daryll
cetera Yeah. um But yeah, i you know, but i so I do also like this last place going straight to the SACO championship because, you know, why should we give someone that just had a terrible season the opportunity to make it to the final? But I can hear Romo saying like, oh, I like the chaos. And I do like the chaos too, so...
00:17:10
Edgar and Daryll
um I don't know.
00:17:12
Mags
but What if we have a scenario where there are two teams that have the same record you know in last place?
00:17:13
Daryll Garcia
The.
00:17:17
Mags
One of them scores more than the other, so that team gets advance to the wild card and team just scored a little bit less doesn't. like It doesn't seem like and dont it just doesn't seem totally fair to me.
00:17:25
Edgar and Daryll
Yep. um it's important Yeah, but the same can be said said about the number one seed, right? Like both teams scored, have the same record, then what differentiates one from the next, right? It's points four.
00:17:40
Edgar and Daryll
Or it can be divisions. Could be divisions.
00:17:43
Mags
Yeah, that's that's fair.
00:17:45
Edgar and Daryll
hu Yeah, it just food for thought, food for thought for people.
00:17:50
Mags
And just one last thing. i also like the way that we have it set up now where in week 15, everyone's playing. Everyone's got a reason to watch the games, to participate in the league chat.
00:18:00
Mags
If we were to remove someone from participating, it just makes it that much less enjoyable for them.
00:18:06
Daryll Garcia
actually a good point.
00:18:07
Edgar and Daryll
Yeah, yeah, I don't disagree. I don't disagree with that. i mean, that's why we did it, right? Is keep it as many as many people engaged into the the league.
00:18:17
Daryll Garcia
and Into the playoffs, yeah.
00:18:18
Edgar and Daryll
Yeah.
00:18:18
Mags
help me
00:18:19
Edgar and Daryll
So I don't disagree with that. um Now, Darryl wanted to bring up another one, which i think we something that we brought up, which was like decreasing one bench spot, right?
00:18:23
Daryll Garcia
Thank you.
00:18:29
Edgar and Daryll
Is what said, Darryl?
00:18:30
Daryll Garcia
Yeah, you know, I think a couple years back, we decided to increase the bench spots to facilitate trading. And i think the last two years, I brought it up to McGuire, i think last year, and we it failed the super majority vote this year to decrease bench spots. I think if we just decreased by one, i think it would would help at least decrease hoarding and maybe facilitate a little bit more trading. What are you guys' thoughts on that?
00:18:59
Mags
yeah i've been pretty resistant to that idea in the past before this year i think partly because i usually love my bench i always want to have as many good players on the bench as possible and so the idea of having one less spot to work with there
00:19:09
Edgar and Daryll
Mm-hmm.
Trading Challenges & Strategies
00:19:15
Mags
feels bad to me but i mean this year in particular the waiver wire was it felt really thin i think it just about every position and so for that reason i think adding or sorry removing one bench spot is something going to be thinking more about right now i'm leaning towards supporting that if it goes to a vote just to have
00:19:21
Daryll Garcia
It felt really sad.
00:19:39
Mags
you know, 10 extra pretty good players out there on the waiver. And that will, you know if there's 10 more better players on the wire, that'll need to people spending in more fab.
00:19:49
Mags
It'll be more interesting to be able to add players off the wire and play them a little bit more easily. That's kind of the one concern i have is that sometimes people in the league make trades because they're in a tough spot.
00:19:54
Edgar and Daryll
Sure, yeah.
00:20:01
Mags
They can't add someone off the wire to play that week. If they've got a bunch of injuries or a bunch of buys. So, I don't know, Darrell. I just have no way of knowing if it's true that having the extra spot will reduce the number of trades or increase the number of trades.
00:20:17
Daryll Garcia
Essentially,
00:20:17
Mags
It's hard to say. But I was going to say, yeah, the the wire felt really, really, really thin this year.
00:20:19
Edgar and Daryll
But let's also, go go ahead.
00:20:26
Edgar and Daryll
Yeah, but I think that's also kind of part of it, right? Like, as fantasy manager, and we've been playing in this league 11 years now or whatever it is, um like, we have to essentially plan for those bye weeks.
00:20:40
Edgar and Daryll
And when you're drafting, you're taking that into consideration, right?
00:20:43
Daryll Garcia
Sixth.
00:20:44
Edgar and Daryll
And if you do draft, you know, six players are on bye the same time, then you're going to have to, like... um You're gonna have to make trades, right?
00:20:56
Edgar and Daryll
You're going have to make adjustments, make trades, make fix things um so that you can go ahead and and potentially do the better, I guess, right? um hey There was just a of way I muted you, so if you want to unmute yourself um because I was hearing a little bit of an echo.
00:21:13
Edgar and Daryll
But, yes, I um i do agree.
00:21:13
Mags
uh
00:21:16
Edgar and Daryll
Like, i just think that that's just part of it. what you What are your thoughts?
00:21:21
Daryll Garcia
um i think that is like my 1b reasoning 1a is hopefully facilitate more trades and decrease hoarding but yeah one the 1b reason would be to the managing portion of the team is where um skill research kind of takes place right you have to decide which players you're going to keep to drop after you pick up someone from the waiver wire um I just like the the the fact that it kind of focuses on the managing aspect or a managing skill in fantasy football.
00:21:57
Edgar and Daryll
You got any thoughts on that, Maguire?
00:22:00
Mags
Yeah, I think that makes a lot of sense.
00:22:03
Edgar and Daryll
Yeah, and like, you know, not to toot my own horn, right? Um, but you know, I came in like, I, I went fresh slate.
00:22:08
Mags
We know you never do that.
00:22:14
Edgar and Daryll
Is that what you call it? Clean slate, clean slate. I had a clean s slate this year. And I said, you know what? No keepers. I'm going draft, right? I lost Malik neighbors who I spend a pretty fab or pretty auction money on. Um,
00:22:30
Edgar and Daryll
And I just kept trading away. Right. I traded and traded and traded. My only original player in my whole entire team when I finished was Travis Kelsey, which for some reason I could not move for the life of me.
00:22:38
Mags
Yes.
00:22:40
Edgar and Daryll
And he was a good tight in But he and here's like what frustrated me with some individuals that I would pitch Kelsey to.
00:22:48
Daryll Garcia
um
00:22:49
Edgar and Daryll
ah They'll be like, oh, he's a bum, blah, blah, blah, yada, yada. And then I'm like, dude, he's like the number three tight end of the season right now. And they're like, oh, I actually haven't paid attention to him.
00:23:00
Edgar and Daryll
So I don't really know what he looks like or how he's been playing. And I'm just like, the why are you talking all this smack?
00:23:05
Mags
I
00:23:06
Edgar and Daryll
Like, if you legitimately don't know and it's just it's just from what you think you hear or because, you know, the Chiefs aren't doing great or whatever it is, right? But in reality, you're not taking – ah some traits into consideration because for some reason you just don't like the name of it, right? um
Team Performances & Reflections
00:23:26
Mags
i think it was more the position. didn't.
00:23:26
Daryll Garcia
They don't like the arm and wall behind the conversation.
00:23:28
Edgar and Daryll
the Sure, the tight end position was what's pretty good this year.
00:23:29
Daryll Garcia
but
00:23:31
Mags
It was extremely deep with Warren and Loveland and Fannin, rookies coming up, and a lot of other players making the best of the opportunities that they had. So that's, i think, a big part of it.
00:23:41
Edgar and Daryll
Yeah, no, I don't disagree with that. um Now, Maguire, who surprised you this season? Like, who you were you kind of like, okay, um wasn't expecting this.
00:23:51
Mags
Which teams?
00:23:52
Edgar and Daryll
Yeah, which like which one of our team from our the Fantasy boys the fancy Boys surprised you the most this year?
00:24:02
Mags
Oh, I hate to say it, but it had to be probably you. once the neighbor once the Once the neighbor's injury happened, I kind of wrote your team off.
00:24:05
Edgar and Daryll
Okay, and what about
00:24:10
Mags
ah Yeah, we we don't have to worry about this guy anymore, but made some good moves at the end that really put you in a good position. It helped that you got a family discount from Carlos and that you basically trade-raped your own brother.
00:24:15
Daryll Garcia
Thank
00:24:20
Mags
But yeah, a lot of those late-season moves were really good.
00:24:21
Edgar and Daryll
yeah
00:24:23
Mags
And the the trade that you had with Tom, I think, worked out well for you. If you kept if you kept Lawrence, that would would have probably been the difference as well for you.
00:24:26
Edgar and Daryll
yeah
00:24:29
Daryll Garcia
um funny
00:24:31
Edgar and Daryll
Maybe Bo Nix and Lawrence kind of had the same stat line towards the final, so I don't think it would have been... I think they both had scored the same. What about for the worst? like Which team did you did you think was going to do a lot better this year then then and then they didn't? right You were kind of like, oh, I was anticipating this team to be competitive and then they kind of fell short.
00:24:53
Mags
tough position to put me in no I mean I I I did like Neira's team coming out but I think Troy's team probably is the one that underperformed the most based on the draft when he came out of the draft I was like damn
00:24:54
Daryll Garcia
The one he stole from. the one he stole from.
00:24:59
Edgar and Daryll
yeah
00:25:07
Edgar and Daryll
yeah yeah
00:25:09
Mags
This is a team to be reckoned with because he had those two top quarterbacks with Allen and Hurts. And then he had, think, Bucky as his keeper. He had Kamara.
00:25:18
Daryll Garcia
Hookah.
00:25:19
Mags
had Kenneth Walker.
00:25:21
Edgar and Daryll
yeah pu and nicoa
00:25:21
Mags
Kenneth Walker was a player who I really wanted coming into the year. Turned it up at the end, but wasn't too great during the season. Yeah, he had Puka.
00:25:27
Edgar and Daryll
yeah
00:25:29
Mags
Zay Flowers was also guy I was targeting at the start. And yeah, his team really looked good at the start.
00:25:34
Edgar and Daryll
yeah
00:25:36
Daryll Garcia
sorry
00:25:36
Mags
I'm still not sure how it all kind of fell apart. i think injury was a big problem for his team and just kind of some inconsistency from those top two quarterbacks throughout the year.
00:25:41
Edgar and Daryll
morning
00:25:46
Mags
But yeah, I think he had a really kind of tough stretch throughout this season and the team did not perform how it should have for him.
00:25:51
Edgar and Daryll
Oh, for sure. Yeah, I would agree. I would agree. I think Troy, to me, I was like, man, this guy, this team is scary. and you And he had like weird, you know, crazy top score games and then really bad games.
00:26:04
Daryll Garcia
Okay.
00:26:06
Edgar and Daryll
And a agree. Like, i think Troy came in with a really good team. I think Nere came in with a with a decent squad. um I mean, he came in with a lot of old school guys, right? That for some reason, week one, they were...
00:26:20
Edgar and Daryll
they perform well and you were like, okay, like he actually might have a team, but then they just sort of like fist out. So was like, maybe not.
00:26:25
Mags
Yeah, he crushed me week one.
00:26:29
Edgar and Daryll
Yeah. Yeah. And I, you know, and and I know we joke about like the, the trade and um obviously that the trade didn't help, but, you know just like like Just like I lost neighbors, right like you can make moves to to move on from that.
00:26:39
Daryll Garcia
so
00:26:40
Mags
Thank
00:26:47
Edgar and Daryll
um And like his team, I think, had enough name to carry him to like better trades for potential like upside players. But he just he sometimes players are just or people are just too attached to like the name and that you just can't move on from it and And I think that's something that I've learned from Trading it's like, you know, if the name is there sometimes it's better to trade the name and Get someone else
00:27:11
Mags
Yeah, I don't follow him all at all for that, and I do feel terrible about that trade. i traded, what was it, Justin Jefferson and Tyrone Tracy and J.K.
00:27:21
Mags
Dobbins for JSN, who obviously had a great year for me.
00:27:24
Edgar and Daryll
Yeah
00:27:26
Mags
And i just know if I was in Nair's position and I made that trade and I watched JSN have the year that he had, I would also kind of go into my own little dark corner and you know kind of try to protect myself and emotionally, especially since you guys are always – ragging on him in the chat about it and he showed at the end of the year that he knows how to make good trades he made a bunch of good trades right at the deadline that I was really impressed with and i know it's easy for me to say but I just wish he had you know paid a little bit more attention to what trades were either during the year and he could have probably turned that season around and had a really good squad but I get it by the way there I get it man it's tough so I don't fall shit off for that
00:27:43
Edgar and Daryll
yeah
00:27:49
Daryll Garcia
it. I think that might not be.
00:28:02
Edgar and Daryll
For sure. I mean, you know, I gifted him Lauren.
00:28:08
Edgar and Daryll
No, I don't know. but But you did, so you traded away... a name with JJ, right?
00:28:14
Daryll Garcia
right
00:28:15
Edgar and Daryll
For, I understand Jason had a great season the previous year, but like the bigger name is JJ at the end of the, at the end of the day, right?
00:28:24
Mags
Yeah,
00:28:24
Edgar and Daryll
Not anymore. That's not going to the case for it, but, but sometimes people go for the name, right? Like
Season Reflection & Farewell
00:28:29
Edgar and Daryll
they go for who was great before without taking into consideration, like quarterback change and things like that.
00:28:35
Edgar and Daryll
um You know, and and you got to take advantage of that. Like you do.
00:28:40
Mags
yeah well, the big thing that swung it, he had a running back injury the week that we made the trade.
00:28:40
Edgar and Daryll
So,
00:28:43
Mags
And I had J.K. Dobbins, who I felt was an extra piece for me.
00:28:46
Edgar and Daryll
Sure.
00:28:46
Mags
So I was just trying to capitalize on that.
00:28:48
Daryll Garcia
That's not
00:28:49
Edgar and Daryll
Yeah, and you're not wrong. What about you, Daryl? Who surprised you for the good and the bad?
00:28:56
Daryll Garcia
The one who surprises you for the good is probably Tom's team.
00:28:59
Edgar and Daryll
For the good?
00:28:59
Daryll Garcia
um
00:29:00
Edgar and Daryll
Oh, yeah, at the end, at the end, at the end.
00:29:00
Daryll Garcia
Yeah, I mean, for the good in the fact that um he won, like you said earlier, he puts his best foot forward no matter what.
00:29:09
Mags
Okay.
00:29:10
Daryll Garcia
And he did it ah week after week, even though he was losing week after week And his team showed up on wildcard week. And so he ended and he ended up fighting for third place.
00:29:23
Daryll Garcia
I think to me, that's how I look at his season. I know it probably wasn't the best for him, but he ended up fighting for third place, which is which is great.
00:29:31
Edgar and Daryll
Sure.
00:29:33
Daryll Garcia
As for disappointing season, I'll probably say, i would probably agree with with you guys, with Troy's team being little disappointing, only because he had serious quarterback power, and Josh Allen literally, I think, lost...
00:29:42
Mags
Thank you.
00:29:49
Daryll Garcia
his back half of the year while Jalen Hurts kind of probably lost him the beginning half of the year when the Eagles were trying to figure out their identity. So it's like a little bit his team's his team never fired on all cylinders consistently.
00:30:03
Daryll Garcia
And so it was probably very frustrating for him to watch and then holding on to Bucky Irving the whole time and not really getting to use him near the end was probably pretty hurtful.
00:30:12
Edgar and Daryll
could it Hey, you could trade him. I requested a trade like five weeks into his injury, and i was going to give him something decent, and and you know he didn't trade him.
00:30:15
Daryll Garcia
Yeah, you're right.
00:30:23
Edgar and Daryll
And also, just you know you talking about trades, i just want to make sure that you guys know that the end of the day, i won the Gibbs trade.
00:30:32
Mags
yeah
00:30:33
Edgar and Daryll
yes ah So it worked out. i don't know if you guys know, but Gibbs, they're terrible in the playoffs. um So it kind of worked out for me, guys.
00:30:42
Mags
i think I think really the league won that trade. Just getting to make fun of you for that for those few weeks. That was some of the most fun I've had in the group chat.
00:30:48
Edgar and Daryll
it
00:30:51
Edgar and Daryll
Oh, it was good. It was pretty good. Well, with that, guys, that's that wraps up the year.
00:30:56
Daryll Garcia
um
00:30:57
Edgar and Daryll
You know, it was it was great. I'm looking forward to next year.
00:30:58
Mags
Hold on, hold on.
00:31:00
Edgar and Daryll
Oh, go ahead.
00:31:01
Mags
I have one one last stat I'd like to share.
00:31:03
Edgar and Daryll
yeah.
00:31:05
Mags
Edgar, of our 19 matchups in the league, how many of those games do you think you've won?
00:31:11
Edgar and Daryll
Against you?
00:31:12
Mags
Yeah.
00:31:14
Edgar and Daryll
Oh, man. This is rough. Maybe like three, four, five.
00:31:19
Mags
It's three. It's three.
00:31:20
Daryll Garcia
Wow.
00:31:20
Mags
16 and three.
00:31:22
Daryll Garcia
Wow.
00:31:22
Edgar and Daryll
16 and three. It's better than Merit's record against you.
00:31:23
Mags
Yeah.
00:31:27
Daryll Garcia
Wow.
00:31:27
Mags
i don't even I don't even know what that is.
00:31:30
Edgar and Daryll
Yeah, i think I think he's only won once against you. But I think twice now that he beat you in the beginning of the year. ah
00:31:36
Mags
OK.
00:31:37
Edgar and Daryll
But, yes, yeah, that's rough, dude. yeah You know, I actually don't have – I think I barely have a sub 500 or a 500 season. I usually do well, but I don't do amazing.
00:31:49
Edgar and Daryll
But, you know, it is what it is, bro. You know, it is what it is. I'm happy for you. I'm happy for you, okay? Yeah.
00:31:55
Daryll Garcia
We're all happy for you.
00:31:55
Mags
Thanks, Nick.
00:31:56
Daryll Garcia
You deserve, i think you deserve this championship.
00:31:56
Mags
Thank you.
00:31:58
Daryll Garcia
So.
00:31:59
Mags
appreciate that, boys.
00:31:59
Edgar and Daryll
You found me, you do. Yeah. And ah well, let's, ah let's finish off with some advice. You guys have any, McGuire, do you have any advice for us?
00:32:09
Mags
You put me on the spot. Come back to me.
00:32:11
Edgar and Daryll
Okay.
00:32:13
Daryll Garcia
Mine's going to be dedicated to Maguire. All right. ah Failure is not fatal. Just as success isn't final. So I'm pretty sure this is going to be Maguire's last championship. I'm sure he's going fighting every year. So just want to inspire the rest of the boys, you know.
00:32:34
Edgar and Daryll
I like it. like it.
00:32:35
Daryll Garcia
It's a journey.
00:32:35
Edgar and Daryll
it's It is a journey, 100%. And it's a journey I'm ready to get back into. McGuire, do you me to do mine do you want to do yours?
00:32:44
Mags
No, you go in I'm listening to yours. I'm not thinking of my own.
00:32:47
Edgar and Daryll
Okay, so um my advice is never test the depth of water with both feet. Because you won't be able to because you're just going to sink, you know?
00:32:56
Mags
but
00:32:57
Edgar and Daryll
You got to dip your donugh you gotta dip your toe
00:32:58
Mags
Stupid.
00:33:01
Daryll Garcia
So you're going to test the depth with just one toe?
00:33:04
Edgar and Daryll
Well, you got to just put, if you put both feet inside, you're just going to sink, dude. You know what I'm saying? So sometimes you got to just put your foot in and be like, oh, how deep is it? You can't do with two feet because now you're just in it.
00:33:20
Daryll Garcia
Oh my gosh.
00:33:21
Edgar and Daryll
you come up with one, McGuire? it it can be anything. Okay.
00:33:24
Mags
Yeah, yeah. This is, I think, a really important one, actually, in all seriousness. don't trade Don't trade with Carlos.
00:33:31
Daryll Garcia
so That's the best advice yet.
00:33:33
Edgar and Daryll
Don't trade with Carlos.
00:33:37
Edgar and Daryll
it's ah That should be an advice that Tom should put on his wall. um But he'll never follow it. He'll never follow it through. All right, boys. Well, thanks for joining us, McGuire.
00:33:48
Mags
You got it. Champ out.
00:33:50
Edgar and Daryll
All right, bye.
00:33:50
Daryll Garcia
Congrats. Peace out.
00:33:52
Edgar and Daryll
Bye.
00:33:59
Mags
Thank you.