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Speaker: hello everyone welcome back to the it's happening for me podcast i am so happy that you're here today and today is going to be a fun day okay because we have a very special guest and before i even like introduce her through her bio or anything holly is if i could just reflect to you how i view you i feel like holly is truly one of the most authentically
Speaker: expressed which is funny because that's a big part of your work person i just feel like you're so grounded holly i feel like you're so in alignment and flow with what you're meant to be doing in this world and your essence really does just feel like yeah such a breath of fresh air someone who just like knows who she is like you i don't know i just feel like safe safe comes up for me and then also just like
Speaker: inspirational and yeah i'm just so happy that you're here today so i want to read your actual bio yeah well what to Do -do.
Speaker: Okay, cool. So we have Holly with us you guys and she is a somatics and authentic expression coach, which Before I even read that, I was like, duh, that's literally like how I feel when I think of you. And she is a countercultural yoga witch. She's very passionate about being an advocate for joy and playing and pleasure as high forms of spirituality. She also is a nervous system whisperer and an uplifter of dreams and possibilities. So thank you so much for being here, Holly.
Speaker: I love that. Oh my gosh. I'm just like fanning the tears away from my eyes right now. It like. I've gotten a lot better at. receiving period but like receiving love receiving compliments and um ah even though I have gotten better at it, it still is just like this cutesy little like, oh my gosh.
Speaker: Yeah, nice you deserve it. Thank you. and I'll say too that um a big part of Being in alignment and and being authentic at this time has been the gene keys and has been even your support through my business journey too. tapping into your little Gene Keys readings. And I just can't wait to see wherever this conversation takes us today.
Speaker: Yay! And can you let the listeners know where are you currently living right now? And maybe just a little bit about your life, how things are right now. Yeah, um I currently live in Portsmouth, New Hampshire, but I also spend about half of my time in Elliott, Maine with my partner who lives in a tiny house on a farm. He's living a very beautiful life that I am so grateful to be a part of.
Speaker: um And. yeah i'm in my saturn return i feel like that's kind of the biggest loudest part of my personal experience at this moment and it has been a roller coaster. I went through a fairly recent break up before I met said tiny home farm ma 'am.
Speaker: Um, And my business is in a season of expansion and. with that expansion also Such a greater amount of. groundedness, and sustainability.
Speaker: um which is awesome when those things go together, right? um and then I also I'm just in a really beautiful season of creating more space in my life um so From the time I started working when I was like 15, I've worked.
Speaker: So much. I've worked like for much of my life, six days a week, um not necessarily eight hour shifts. Those. every one of those days, but. at some point, six to seven days a week, showing up on somebody else's timeline, on somebody else's clock.
Speaker: um So to just be. In a season right now where I am fully sustaining. Myself. completely on my business feels so fucking good. And I also have the spaciousness to Take hour -long walks in the middle of the day and go to yoga classes and to really do all the things that I need to do to lead and live and share, coach, guide.
Speaker: from integrity, from my own embodiment of what I'm sharing with other people. um So I'm in a very exciting spot. It's been kind of a hell ride to get here, but... That's life, right?
Speaker: Yes. I love that so much. I, I really love to just like naming that you're in a Saturn return and actually experiencing some like really big challenges. My Saturn return was. crazy like literally chaotic I also went through a really big breakup That's when I actually
Speaker: I also had like a thing with alcohol come up again. I had been sober for a number of years and then tried to see if I could moderate or not and then realized i couldn't and so yeah just like so much stuff something else that we really like resonate a lot too and have in common is also kind of like the sobriety journey yeah so like you can you tell us a little bit about that for your experience Totally. Yeah. um I always forget that. I forget how many layers that we have in common. um This August, so in just about a month.
Speaker: A little bit less is three years for me. Sober from alcohol. I'm still. engage in cannabis and love her.
Speaker: um But yeah. It was such a... divinely guided decision to cut alcohol out um there were a lot of different factors and layers that went into it but the straw that broke the camel's back was um i was I had met. my ex.
Speaker: But we weren't like officially dating yet. And. I was just kind of in like a little bit of a ho phase. but Yeah. And I was... um still hooking up with this other guy. And I kept saying to myself, like,
Speaker: All right, girl, like you really like this. Person. Let's cut it off with the hookup. But then I would. We worked together. So at the the bar that I worked at, like. We would drink with our friends and have a good night, have fun. And then.
Speaker: I would hook up with him again. And I was like, I am hurting this man's feelings because he genuinely likes me. I'm hurting myself. I'm hurting the person that I genuinely like. that I want to actually build a relationship with.
Speaker: And the common denominator in me continuing to like break this commitment to myself is alcohol. Mm hmm. So... I just... was so called again for a lot of different reasons beyond that too, but to just reevaluate.
Speaker: reevaluate, excuse me, my relationship to this substance that was making me backtrack on. commitments that I wanted to make to myself. and from the time that I stopped drinking.
Speaker: like literally my entire life improved. A thousand percent. That's... the time span that I've created my business. It's the time span that like every positive change has happened in my world. um And I actually do a lot of work.
Speaker: With yoga and sound baths. I call it befriending the nervous system. in the recovery population. um I really love working with people in the recovery space. And I think Addiction is such a demonstration of this.
Speaker: cultural norm of numbness. just to an extreme. um And. As you said, I teach semantics and authentic expression and like.
Speaker: helping people to get out of their minds and really into the felt. sensing experience of being in a body, having a spirit. being more than meets the eye.
Speaker: um And yeah, so I love working with people in the recovery space because. That is definitely a population that is used to being. disconnected from.
Speaker: those deeper parts of self and Very often. highly sensitive people who are like choosing to numb out because of the intensity with which they would naturally feel life otherwise.
Speaker: um But yeah, that's a little bit. A little bit about the journey. Yeah, no, that's... so crazy that you even say like bring up this highly sensitive part because I feel like that was a really big part part of my journey of wanting to numb out for so long because I really started drinking alcohol around like 14 and I used it until like 25 for everything like every social situation dating. I um i was just talking to this um earlier about how like i never even had sex sober before
Speaker: i got sober like i just i didn't believe that people did that i was like there's no way like because i was so disconnected from myself from my body um very insecure jealousy, just all of these different emotions, right? Because I did not know who I was. And so the alcohol is what gave me the confidence. It fueled me. Like I felt like it made me like who I was until I realized, oh, I actually don't fucking know who I am. And that's why the substance is kind of like giving me that, you know?
Speaker: Oh my gosh. Yes. That realization that I had that realization with my last. partner because he was sober and he was another inspiration for my sobriety.
Speaker: um But. like yeah having sex with him i was like this is literally the first time that i've either not been drunk or high being intimate with someone and that like broke my heart Mm hmm.
Speaker: Like, wow, that's That's kind of shocking that that is such a norm. i didn't even I hadn't even thought about it up to that point. But that also, I feel, speaks to...
Speaker: Just the level of... Safety? That's lacking in intimacy and in relationship that those kinds of substances can kind of like.
Speaker: Smooth over. a nervous system that doesn't actually feel safe to open up and then like forces that openness without. the consciousness behind it.
Speaker: Mhm. Yes. And I think for me too, it was like, Yeah, I was just always like kind of seeking. i guess kind of like seeking wholeness from other people so it's like before i'm with the partner that i'm with now when i was just like dating around a lot or like sleeping around a lot like i really was just like oh i i have this hole inside of me that i feel like i need to fill that i feel like So I need this to get this like from a man for example and then it's just like it was just so shallow and like vapid and like
Speaker: it's and i don't know it's just so crazy because then i never thought that i would be able to be intimate or anything like sober and now it's like crazy like the depths of just like how much better it is like when you actually are not there's anything wrong with drinking or partaking in drugs because also if people have a good relationship with it it could also be good too yes yes absolutely absolutely I am such a I'm so glad you said that too because With literally.
Speaker: everything in life. I am a believer in nuance and each person's unique path and unique story and like what works for.
Speaker: you and I is not what works for everyone else. And that's the beauty of the world. What a concept. Mm hmm. Yes. um Can you tell us a little bit about like How did you find yoga? Like, did you grow up spiritual? Like, did your parents instill this into you? Or did you like, did something happen where you just started like researching stuff? Like, how did you find yoga? Yeah, I love that question. um
Speaker: Everything is so multilayered, right? My mom is very hippie, crunchy, organic girl. So that was. kind of always instilled in me. My dad also. Pretty hippie -ish, but, um... Like, more.
Speaker: He was. growing weed in his high school garden. and like He was like rebe rebel hippie and my mom was like crunchy granola hippie. um But they both grew up very spiritual in the church, actually. Both my parents raised us going to Episcopalian church, which is like hippie Catholic. I like to describe it as hippie Catholic. It's Catholicism with less rules and like females can be. um
Speaker: ah leaders in the Episcopalian church, which is cool. We love that. mm -hmm So I grew up super faithful and like so devoted.
Speaker: Two. Sunday school and everything without It just felt a very like very natural to me to be so devoted to. the unseen, um which definitely still rings true.
Speaker: But as I got older, I was like, ooh. some of the dogma of this like saying we're right and everyone else is wrong I was like that feels kind of weird I don't really love that I kind of Agree more with the like, love that neighbor stuff within all this. But yeah, I started to move away from.
Speaker: the dogma and like the indoctrination and the weirdness of the church and Kept, though, continuing to follow that thread of being very devotional, very faithful to something larger. And I got to just kind of play with.
Speaker: ah what that looked like and felt like in authenticity to me. And I explored so many different world religions, so many different philosophies. But backing way up. When I dance, because I danced my whole life.
Speaker: um That's actually. That was my first introduction to yoga from a very... I would say not just a physical, definitely physical, but also like an emotional standpoint.
Speaker: I had. really intense anxiety as a kid. um And it affected my digestion a lot. Like I always had an upset tummy. And I sat out of a lot of my dance classes because I was experiencing this intense anxiety and I didn't know what to call it. Like I just was literally having a panic attack and didn't know what was going down. It was like.
Speaker: I'm going to sit on the wall and just watch people dance. Okay. That didn't, I couldn't tell you how often it happened, but it happened often enough where my teachers were like. This girl like probably needs some help. She like needs a hug and some restorative yoga.
Speaker: So the first thing that my teachers. at my dance studio taught me was a couple of different restorative yoga postures to like help calm my nervous system down because they could tell what I couldn't tell and what my parents didn't know what to do with.
Speaker: um They could tell that I was moving through ah like a state of stress in my body. um And so that, yeah, that was always kind of in the background. I started doing a couple of the shapes, whatever. And that was through like middle school, high school. And it felt amazing. I was like, I love this stuff. I do feel way better doing this.
Speaker: um And then like my mom would take me to some classes at her gym and I took. You'll get. Tufts when I went to Tufts. I took it one semester when I was abroad.
Speaker: And so it was always in the background alongside learning about all these different philosophies and and spiritualities. But it was in 2021. in a spiritual purpose program that like fell into my lap.
Speaker: my aunts. One of my aunt's best friends was training within this specific program and needed a mentee. So I got to do this. course totally for free.
Speaker: And it was incredible. Like it brought together so many different really top tier teachers, indigenous leaders. People that are like, again, living in true embodiment of this type of work um and that program centered.
Speaker: largely around Bill Plotkin's work. I don't know if you know Bill Plotkin, but... It was this book, The Journey of Soul Initiation. And it was really rooted in.
Speaker: indigenous teachings and spiritual systems from across the world. um But within that program, one thing that we did within, I think it was six months. it was ah Quite a good chunk of time.
Speaker: were these meditations called IntelliKey meditations. And I had. very clear visions of little bits and pieces of my life and reflecting back on it now.
Speaker: I was definitely like tapping into my psychic abilities, tapping into maybe the Akashic records to some degree. um And I had a vision in one of these meditations of myself doing asana in a wildflower field.
Speaker: And the whole program was centered around your your purpose, your life's purpose, and like all the different facets of what your purpose can mean. So I was going into that meditation.
Speaker: with the intention of tapping into visions of what my life purposes. So seeing yoga and that really stuck with me of like. I don't know where this is gonna fit in, but...
Speaker: I know that this is a part of the puzzle And I studied psychology at Tufts, so I always had that curiosity for. um wellness and understanding humanness, understanding the mind.
Speaker: And yoga helped to bring in what I felt was missing from my like Western. education of all of that stuff. Amen. and then pull. all the different spiritual systems. but Um. I just absolutely adore it. and i kind of you know weaved in and out of being in connection to all of that stuff.
Speaker: got off the path for a little bit and went down kind of a drinking rabbit hole as, as you shared in your own experience too. But on the other side, in 2024... I went to Costa Rica and got my yoga teacher training and.
Speaker: Yeah, it was. I know it's so cliche, but it was one of the most beautiful experiences of my life. specifically the bhakti. Are you familiar with bhakti? So there's different paths of yoga.
Speaker: um And bhakti is like devotional yoga. So this is a nice full circle thing. And bhakti is very much. reaching that state of enlightenment or oneness or unity.
Speaker: Through devotion, through emotion, through expression. um So bhakti, it's more common to like have the chanting or ah repeating of mantra.
Speaker: um And that was. what affected me the most in my yoga teacher training was the singing and and chanting and and using my voice. um which I was like terrified to sing in front of people for most of my life. So that was. its own thing. um But yeah, I just absolutely fell in love with it. Finally had that moment.
Speaker: Of all. this is what I'm supposed to be doing, which I like. Oh, I've had so many different career experiences and like explored a ton of different paths. so to land on And land in.
Speaker: yoga and to feel so solidly like Yes. this is This is for me. This is what I'm supposed to be doing. and Like everything has flowed.
Speaker: so incredibly miraculously since then. Mhm. oh my god I did not know all of that that's so beautiful Holly I feel that probably why i can like people can feel that like we can feel that in your energy and your aura like you are just such an embodied person you know like this is yeah i feel like you like live it breathe it and like You have such a ah very grounding like peaceful,
Speaker: um like safety -ness that you kind of like give off and i feel like it's probably because you're so like in your own body and yeah. That's so cool. yeah Thank you. Mm hmm. Yes. Okay, so... Do you? OK, so I want to talk about I have so many different. ways I want to go that's like I have so many things but I want to talk about So...
Speaker: I really love this like I wouldn't I wouldn't know if you would call it like a pivot but like I love the direction of where you are right now in business and specifically supporting baby entrepreneurs to really step into their purpose to step into their leadership to like run their business i just want to hear about that and how like through the path of purpose maybe like you take all of these things that you've learned and like put it in there like can you talk to us about all of that Yes. Yeah. So.
Speaker: this is funny because i know maddie maple is is a mutual for us and shout out absolutely adore her Um, Yeah, I've worked with her in a couple different ways. But there was it was like an IG audit or something that she did for me. And she was like,
Speaker: Holly, I feel like... And this was probably a year ago at this point. She's like, I feel like you. Like... are kind of saying that you want to work with entrepreneurs and people that want to leave like a traditional nine to five, but you're not really naming that you're not like speaking specifically to that, like. What? Do you want to be speaking to that? Because you kind of are. And I was just like, oh. Like...
Speaker: I am. I have always had... A rebelliousness within me. I think that as I named comes from my dad a little bit. uh but i'm As it says in my bio there.
Speaker: very counter -cultural and I have just always had an eye. For. a lack of integrity, which is. That like integrity is one of the gifts of my gene keys. And I just resonated with that so much when I read that. um But yeah, having an eye for and pattern recognition of.
Speaker: lack of integrity in this culture. It's a dangerous combo because there's so many things that I like. want to call out and want to opt out of and want to.
Speaker: highlight for other people to notice just to see different possibilities for themselves. And so a big part of that was.
Speaker: Also has to do with my dad. I watched my dad grow up. um or I grew up watching my dad. Work. to very low paying like minimal minimum wage jobs um He was working like 16 plus hour days. most of the time.
Speaker: He slept during the day because he worked overnight shifts. And so I didn't really have much of a relationship with him and he didn't have much of a life. He was just working and sleeping and like getting by.
Speaker: He had a beautiful garden and like. He would take us to baseball games sometimes, and he did his absolute best for the small amount of time that he had. But I was just like.
Speaker: Whatever that is. I don't want any of it. I do not wanna be involved in that. My mom was a secretary at the hospital and pre -op. And she. did that for 25 years or something before she.
Speaker: started moving towards nursing, but. Both of my parents, I watched watched them work so. hard. to have so little.
Speaker: And ah beyond them. looking around at the world and seeing how many people Sit. At Little Desks. in little boxes.
Speaker: in stillness for eight hours a day. overriding, and this applies to school too, not just work. but overriding these. natural, instinctual ways of being moving.
Speaker: Thinking, breathing. Our whole culture is so far from what Helps to bring actual vitality to. our system.
Speaker: So. Whether or not I was directly naming that or creating offers around helping people to step outside of those traditional boxes.
Speaker: That is like always where I was headed. And my original program, which I still run now, it's my one -on -one mentorship is called Trust Your Path.
Speaker: So even that I was kind of like still naming, like trust your non -conventional path and follow me into. This beautiful space to have something else. and um And what's really beautiful actually is.
Speaker: As I walked. The lovely people that went through that. through that program. So many of them. shared with me at some point during the program or after.
Speaker: that they were interested in. entrepreneurship or like doing something similar to what I did starting a podcast whatever
Speaker: And it was like probably in January. December, January of this past year. Um, that I had a bunch of people randomly.
Speaker: All around the same time. Come to me with very specific. business questions and like booking calls with me to ask more business specific questions And I am such an intuitive.
Speaker: little being. I love to just... feel my way through my life instead of thinking and planning so much of it. mm -hmm And so sitting down for those calls, I got to feel.
Speaker: In a very spontaneous, intuitive way, because I was like, oh, I haven't. done this before, but yeah. I have learned a lot about how to run a business. I am very self -reflective. an intelligent person like I do have things to share.
Speaker: And I got to feel on that call how good it felt. or on those. calls those conversations. how good it felt to share. this wisdom and share my experience and lessons learned and to watch these ahas happen for them. and um I felt that again, that gene keys, that zone of genius, that like lit feeling of, Oh, it feels really good and buzzy. I love this. I just like I'm flowing.
Speaker: Um, And around that time, I also decided to launch two in -person programs. that did a better job of um guiding people further into my world.
Speaker: When I started out my business, my in -person stuff was not really supporting my online stuff. I was just doing yoga over here and I was doing like the deeper work over here and it.
Speaker: felt very separate because I was not bridging that gap. um So I. had an intention through this whole year to really. Mary. all of my offers together in a much better way.
Speaker: Mm hmm. And so I created actually an in -person. program called Path of Purpose that Took. the people that came through their gene keys over the course of four months, we did the four, just the four activation keys.
Speaker: um And I... Absolutely adored it. And yet again. The the um woman that went through it with me. through all four of them. Um,
Speaker: was like interested in entrepreneurship, interested in. That's the kind of stuff that I do. and
Speaker: Everything started adding up and I couldn't ignore it anymore. And I also felt called to. um make another larger investment in myself and my own business to get.
Speaker: greater support to help to build. Out that sustainability for myself. um kind of like yeah just get stronger bones of my own business because I am so creative I have all the ideas like I have the energy to do it all and I just was honestly kind of missing the bones, the structures.
Speaker: And since working with that coach and another incredible coach for more somatic healing. um I have found this really beautiful cadence of feeling so solid and centered in my business.
Speaker: And. just like such a clear channel for. what I am supposed to bring. to life. And my online group. Program Path of Purpose.
Speaker: separate from the one that I ran in person, um has felt. so fucking good to run. I'm absolutely loving it. um I love the baby entrepreneurs. and It's just been a fun, it's a part of my human design that I am. um 3 -5 projector.
Speaker: So I'm very much like. Leadership through my own trial and error. And it is really fun. to just be so real with them and even so kind of close to where they are. I'm not so far ahead of them that I've like forgotten this part.
Speaker: um that I get to just really share. My whole heart. with the women inside of Path of Purpose. and um Share the very grounded, very.
Speaker: Embodied. This is what the fuck it takes to do this. mm -hmm And the biggest difference I'd say, like between myself and other people that I've.
Speaker: um seen with business courses is that such a big part of my own expansion and Ability to create the business that I have was womb healing.
Speaker: Hmm. I took a pause from business mentorship. a big fat pause to just work with a womb healer. And that's when I actually started getting viral. That's when I felt so much more able to um embody confidence in what I'm supposed to put out into the world. Um, so yeah, it's really fun for me to get to put.
Speaker: the womb healing, the mystical, the magical into the same container as the very practical, like here's the customer journey. mm -hmm I guess we need all of it. um But yeah, it's been so fun to. I love just following. following where I'm called. And that's actually exactly what I'm teaching is like. this kind of creative entrepreneurship. And I love what you do too. Like you teach people about.
Speaker: Your. template is not like anyone else's template. Mom. And the more that we Listen inside. instead of listening outside, the more you have all the answers you need right in here. And that's so yogic too. So it all connects.
Speaker: I love it. but Yeah, no, literally I'm obsessed. I remember when you. I forget where i we were in something together and I remember you were talking about launching your in -person um path of purpose.
Speaker: is what it's called, I think. um And I just remember I was like, oh my God, that is so genius. Like literally so genius, like marrying it in with like your yoga and like your people in person, guiding them through that process. And then it's so cool that.
Speaker: you got to kind of like bring both worlds together and feel like, Oh, I actually love doing this. Like that's like every, everything that I found to like through the gene keys, I feel like we just have like. it's like a language that we speak, right? It's just like, we love it. It lights us up. We understand it. It makes sense of the world. And then it's like, you were able to now bring it into online as well. And that's one thing that I was going to say right before you said, oh, I feel so clear now. I was going to say what I feel from you is like clarity. Like I know what I'm talking about. This is who I want to help. Like, I just feel it's like so refined and it's like, so like.
Speaker: who you really came here to be like in this moment this is exactly what you're supposed to be doing and you really can feel that you know it's just like This and I it's so needed. Oh my god, like in just what you're talking about of like you know the very
Speaker: just business side of things of like this is your client avatar and like blah blah blah like let's do the strategy it's like that never only works like only that does not work obviously there's a place for strategy and yes like all of these things but when people are like constantly seeking those answers it's almost like you're always like on this hamster wheel chasing like to go viral or to get the clients when really it's like wait what am I actually supposed to like give to the world and so i love that you like turn everything
Speaker: your work is really all of them coming back into themselves, which is really beautiful. Yeah. includ Yes. I love it. So what would you say out of your gene keys is like your favorite one? Like, what do you what is your favorite? one If you could pick one. Um,
Speaker: ah What all... ah I don't have a favorite, but what's coming to mind right now, one that's been, I've been thinking about it a lot and it actually applies to what you just said too. I have. the I don't even remember where in my chart it is, but I have the key of... um Exhaustion Is the shadow.
Speaker: Resolve. is the gift and divine will. as the city. And. um Part of what. It's definitely in my activation sequence. I just don't remember which one. I think it might be my life's work.
Speaker: um The part of the journey that I've gone on through that is recognizing that. Trying to follow an external template, trying to follow the shoulds, the expectations, the logical of what I believe is supposed to.
Speaker: happen or what would make sense to happen. Um, when I exist or anyone, right? But when I exist from a state of control and force and like trying. to make things work?
Speaker: I'm going to exhaust myself in the process. When I am in alignment and in flow. I get to tap into... this state of resolve and and divine will where I recognize that. The world wants to move and work. through me.
Speaker: Mm. I don't. to come up with all of this. on my own. In fact, I cannot because I am not as powerful. as the wholeness of the entire universe that wants to move through me. When I talk to clients and and different people about...
Speaker: this too. I'm like, Imagine you are holding. Holding back the entire energy of the ocean. It's like you can you can feel viscerally how incapable we are of holding the whole energy of the ocean, right? It would just...
Speaker: Knock us right out. So that is like that is exhausting when you are trying to hold the energy of the whole ocean. And I use that. um With clients, especially talking about.
Speaker: repressed and unprocessed emotions, that the emotions are still there. That's exhausting too. um Yeah, there's so many different layers to... that key and like All the different symbols of.
Speaker: Anytime that I am feeling drained and exhausted. like that is a sign to me that I am out of alignment. And when I.
Speaker: What a beautiful. key and a beautiful life lesson to learn that the world is miraculous. and flowy and abundant and it wants to Help me to live in ease. I don't have to exhaust myself. to be successful and to have my dreams come true. I just have to listen. um And I'm going to cheat a little bit here because listening. Listening is...
Speaker: My purpose key. um Yeah, that deep listening of like. I just have to feel and hear those deeper threads of what wants to move through me. I don't have to fucking try so hard. It's like.
Speaker: swimming upstream or being on a floaty with a coconut and a little straw and somebody's feeding me grapes and I'm getting fat and I'm just floating down the river. Yes.
Speaker: So yeah, that's what of buy that's one of my favorites for sure. Oh, I love that. I love that one. Do you feel like... Okay. So kind of going along with that and also pivoting a little bit, like, do you feel like that energy ever came up in your past relationship? And do you feel like it's almost like, it's almost like this relationship had to come to an end in some way for you to step more into alignment of who you are?
Speaker: Oh. 100 ,000%. Yes. And that's a great. reflection and just an example of how all of the gene keys, whether it's in your...
Speaker: activation sequence, the girl sequence or the Venus, like all of them apply to every layer of your life, right? So even those ones in my activation sequence absolutely apply to my relationships as well.
Speaker: End. Yeah, like totally. You're giving me a light bulb moment right now of. I was exhausting myself trying to convince him. to be with me. and um avoiding the honesty of the fact that that was not.
Speaker: the highest, most aligned person. But... the timeline of it all too is like every time we had friction or we had a tough conversation where we like almost broke up which happened several times through our relationship I would look at the what was happening astrologically. And I was always like, pfft We are so karmically connected on what we're moving through together. so
Speaker: Like there's there's layers. There's layers to this shit that I think. the full time. that I was with him. was. You can say destined or fated or whatever word. I also fully believe in free will.
Speaker: but I do feel there was some amount of destiny to that timeline. But towards the end, when it was time. for that too. dissolve.
Speaker: It was this like, okay. It doesn't actually have to be this. hard all the time to be in a relationship like i don't constantly have to be unpacking.
Speaker: My trauma and facing my childhood wounds and um working through this stuff with this person like. relationship can be. useful. And.
Speaker: It's amazing since the ending of that relationship. and I wish him nothing but the best. We don't have bad. bad energies between us so I'm not saying any of this from a place of malice.
Speaker: But when that relationship ended, So much energy opens up in my life To do. to make those big investments in my business and in myself. And. um I went to gu Guatemala with. the a bunch of my Good girlfriends there.
Speaker: It was a retreat business. and or own a business of hosting retreats. and Just like so many crazy little synchronicities and serendipities happened and like.
Speaker: I absolutely had to go through all of that to meet this version of myself and meet this aligned version of myself. and I... do believe that it was the divine will for that to all.
Speaker: unfold as it did and Surrender surrenders. always, always been a word that has come up. For me. I think it's not unique to me whatsoever. but Even in Guatemala when I was there, which was like.
Speaker: couple weeks after the breakup. um I pulled the surrender card from my Anima Mundi deck, like... Seven times. Oh my gosh. Time to surrender. Ah. I love it.
Speaker: But yeah. like I feel like this is it's just so helpful because like inevitably like we're all going to experience heartbreak in our life whether we've recently just experienced it or maybe like you know someone listening is in a relationship where they just know like maybe it is time for it to end or just like the fear of it ending and I just feel like it just gives so much like um just like hope and like Things that...
Speaker: although it feels very very difficult during the moment really can open up and like sometimes you know we love the people that we're with like you loved your partner and so it's very hard to see that there could be another life outside of that and it's just like a life beyond your wildest dreams like your business is blowing up like you know experiencing love friendships just all of the things and like It is through the other side of that portal.
Speaker: Yeah, totally. And I didn't even really speak to that and what I just said. So I'm glad that you said that. like the ending of that relationship was. some of the most brutal pain that I've experienced in my life.
Speaker: I was very attached to that relationship, very attached to. going on the van trip that we were planning for three years and building a life with this person. And I totally had blinders to any other possibility.
Speaker: um And those are like those tower moments in our lives when everything gets. ripped out from under us where like I... didn't have the courage in my little being to like have the boundaries and step away. So life was like, alright, bitch, we're gonna slap you out of it.
Speaker: and um And it was so fun. brutal it was really painful um but that's part of what led me to the Dramatic coaching also was like, okay.
Speaker: I... have some feels that I want to unpack for like what is it that led me to be so like anxiously attached to this person and to Um.
Speaker: Not be putting energy toward. the courage it takes to to be this aligned, expansive version of myself. for those three years. like What places do I?
Speaker: want to go to within myself to to feel my own ability to make my life whatever I need it to be. And I had to go to those depths.
Speaker: this is cool actually what's coming up and i said this in in my podcast episode that you just listened to also that um I had an incredible Reiki session right after the time of our breakup. and My teacher is the one who was. um doing, holding a session for me.
Speaker: she saw a beluga whale like pop up right in front of her face when she was over my heart chakra. And the beluga whale is the canary of the sea. So it's like a ah singing whale. They all they all sing.
Speaker: But. I've been thinking about that a lot this week too. I'm reading this incredible book that's Talking about heart cognition, knowing the world through the... cognizing ability of your heart that it's not this like fluffy, like just feel it with your heart. Like no, literally our hearts.
Speaker: have their different form of of thought and thinking and perceptive ability. Um, But that beluga whale at the depth of the base of my heart was this little teacher in that period where my heart got ripped apart.
Speaker: that through that ripping apart. I was able to reach a greater depth. of feeling from my heart, which has expanded me into a greater depth of feeling.
Speaker: the whole world around me. Hmm. which is... so much of what has fed into being at this aligned and clear. place within myself.
Speaker: in this very moment so Truly, truly those when you let. yourself feel the intensity. Of grief. Mm hmm.
Speaker: Your heart gets ripped open so that you can also feel. more love, more joy, more abundance, all of it. And it's so.
Speaker: fucking annoying to hear that in the moment that you're feeling the pain and that's that's great don't don't listen to this in that moment like just trust that it will come when it's supposed to come and it's a different timeline for all of us For me...
Speaker: God universe source place to this Beautiful. yoga farm tiny house man in my life a week later. So I really didn't have to go through too much of that intensity. Yes. Thank God for him.
Speaker: We love him. We love him. Yeah, I was I was listening to a podcast last week that was talking about how like, when we break up, it truly is almost like worse grief than losing a loved one. Because when the loved one passes away, there's closure. Yeah. And it's like, you know, you're not asking yourself these stupid questions. But when you do. like get broken up with it's like now you're also, like, not only losing your best friend, your partner in life, like, you're thinking, like, what did I do wrong? Like, overanalyzing everything. And, like, it really is, like...
Speaker: to know that they're out there still existing in the world is like the depths of pain that are just like, it's so hard to describe. I also experienced that Saturn return. Like I just was, it was. horrible like the worst pain i've ever felt for a long time so it's like It is really beautiful to know though, like you said.
Speaker: Going that deep within us and feeling that pain opens us up to be able to also experience just the most. blissful like joyous like beautiful things that like we would just never feel if we weren't able to go that low. So that's such a beautiful way to put that.
Speaker: yeah Yeah. Thank you. Yes. I love it. um okay well i also want to know so you oh wait can we also talk about there was something else i wanted to talk about about you went viral for some for a video of dancing and then didn't you get like trolls or something ah on it can you talk about that because i think that's going to help people who have a fear of like they want to be more visible but there is a fear of being like misunderstood Yes. Okay. Yes, absolutely.
Speaker: such a huge part of my own journey and a part of most like social media entrepreneurs that I know is walking through the visibility wounds. And I feel like it's just so. classic that it's all these
Speaker: Beautiful. witchy goddess women that are like leading the charge on these things and the social media revolution and like making internet money. And also we're probably the ones that were like burnt at the stake and had to go through the witch trials. Right. So.
Speaker: From a very... esoteric level, these visibility wounds are so powerful for us to be alchemizing and working through in these ways. um But then in a more just like.
Speaker: grounded 3D version of it. To be seen. unknown. and um Bye.
Speaker: For better or for worse. Thousands. to millions of people. is really overwhelming. For your nervous system. humans like evolutionary wise. were not designed to connect with this many other people. Period.
Speaker: And certainly not to have this. amount of opinions thrusted upon you, like to your conscious awareness. So a really big part of.
Speaker: going viral, especially with something that you genuinely care about. Um, And like. especially in a state of. expression and and being yourself.
Speaker: You have to be prepared. for your nervous system. not to take that on as Truth or as.
Speaker: Yeah, I just lost my words a little bit, but I was. Just sharing this with my client. um on my group call on Wednesday. That when your nervous system is just...
Speaker: only open and you don't have like a healthy set sense of boundaries, people's projections and opinions are like little daggers that can actually get through and pierce you.
Speaker: Hmm. When you are running a business like this and you're putting out your shit to. however many people like It's so important to build a healthy relationship to your nervous system so you can have a healthy set of boundaries.
Speaker: So you do not take on other people's. ideas and opinions of you, again, as truth or as reality. And it's interesting because I was moving through.
Speaker: the virality of that and. and strangers saying those things around the same time that I actually in my family was going through kind of a weird moment of.
Speaker: um members of my family projecting things onto me that I I had to back up and be like. I had to set a new. level of boundaries with certain family members that I.
Speaker: have never sat before. and to say like, Oh, actually. That's your... Your stuff. to navigate. I'm not taking that on And that was an interesting side -by -side reflection of of business and personal life together. um But yeah, so in the video I'm...
Speaker: dancing freely and... it's funny too because that video is from years ago it's from about three years ago when I was at my friend's bachelorette two months into my sobriety and you'll understand this as a creator like Sometimes we have to say stupid things on the hooks.
Speaker: for it. to be a hook that catches people's attention. people's attention. And it's like, I don't, I don't know. I don't normally. Talk. If anybody and you like actually talks in hooks, that's, I don't know. I don't know. They don't. yeah And so... um Yeah, I don't know. There's just yeah, so I said this hook about like you're
Speaker: POV, you're two months sober. and Still the life of the party at your friend's bachelor bachelorette. and um I'm dancing wild because I love to dance. That's just who I am. when i was pressing myself and there was quite a few men which also like I'm sure that.
Speaker: At least some of them were just bots, which is ridiculous that that's... the time and place that we live in where just like Instagram bots know how to say such horrible things. um but yeah I had a lot of like slut shaming stuff and just weird stuff about my body a lot of weird judgments about the sobriety also of like she's a train wreck she's not gonna stay sober and i god i didn't engage with 99 .9 % of them. Mhm.
Speaker: But there was some random days that... that they would pop up and the one where the guy was like this sobriety is not gonna last I just I had to respond to that I was like Three years next month, lol.
Speaker: Yes. It didn't back last, sir. But. um Yeah, I think the biggest thing that I want to share. Here to just wrap that thought up is.
Speaker: It is absolutely so normal, so human, so valid to be. affected by what people say to us. And I think that's a sign that you or living breathing and like have openness in your heart right that's like the exact same thing i was talking about is that depth and expansiveness of feeling in your heart What's important is to know how to set boundaries. And I love. teaching.
Speaker: And I think I learned this from somebody else, but. I do. owe Boundary meditation with roses because roses are this beautiful example of. The flowers are still sweet and they call in the bees and the butterflies and like.
Speaker: You are not building impenetrable walls. But you also have those thorns that are like. blocking out the weird shit. So you can call in the bees and the sweetness and the honey.
Speaker: And the... Steve XOXO69 who says weird stuff on your posts. the thorns can protect you from him.
Speaker: Yeah, because truly. When you are in that solid state of. centeredness of like I have a a bigger mission here and like Again, the the universe is trying to work through me right now.
Speaker: like truly it is possible to be less affected. But I don't think it's... I don't think it's necessarily.
Speaker: should be a goal to not be affected at all because you don't want to close down completely. Mm hmm. That's that's my
Speaker: Thanks. I love too that like you do do the somatic work and you do have tools that you support your clients through because sometimes I hear like from just traditional traditional business coaches it's like oh well just get over it like just do it it's very much like just do it just get over it energy like why are you letting that affect you and it's like okay it does fucking affect us so can we please have some support in how to navigate this you know so i love that you actually like like you said you're very real with your clients of like yeah this is how it feels and like this is how i'm going to support you move to move through it
Speaker: Yeah. Absolutely. It's so sad to me with that stuff, but that is also... A demonstration, again, of our culture exists so often in the mind. So it's a very normal response for people to say, just get over it. just think differently about it. But it's like, okay, I can think differently about it, but I still feel shit. Sorry, don't know what to tell you. I'm a fucking human.
Speaker: exactly yeah most of us have not been taught or trained or like most of us are not fluent in the language of the body and of the nervous system. And so that's just a concept that doesn't even occur to most people.
Speaker: and it's really exciting for me and just lights me up so much to share. like you're not crazy and You don't need to beat yourself up because you can't just get over it. It's like... your body needs to actually let that shit go because it's energetic daggers that just pierced you.
Speaker: mm -hmm I love that. Yes. um Okay, so that brings me to my next question because you are a dancer and you have a twerk shop. Can you tell us about that? And it just makes me want to like stand up and shake. Show us. I'm kidding. Oh my gosh. Yeah this has been a huge part.
Speaker: i've been I say that so much when you talk so much. For a living. ah Maybe you can relate to this, those phrases that I say over and over again, and I hear myself saying, and I'm like, oh my gosh. like whatever it's been a huge part of my journey and the expression piece of Recognizing, okay.
Speaker: I love. EDM. I've danced my whole life. I love yoga. And I realized there's these specific... Rooms?
Speaker: that I feel safe and okay to do this. And most of the world in... New England. where I've lived for most of my life.
Speaker: I feel like I have to actually. hide. that expressiveness. And I have to exist in my body in much more like linear ways and just sit in the chair and just walk down the street and like, don't.
Speaker: Go like this and don't shake your ass and don't shake any part of your body. You shouldn't be jiggling. It's like very Puritan energy. around the space that I live. um So...
Speaker: to unpack that. and recognize The things that have actually helped me to feel vital and vibrant and so. well and whole in my life.
Speaker: Yeah, like traditional talk therapy helps. Yeah. Meditation and love meditation. So important. Like all of the, you know, wellness girly stuff is great, but also.
Speaker: being feral. Just being so feral, screaming. Head banging. up against the oh my god i'm like totally spacing out what it's called what's the literal the front riding rail Riding ramp. At the show, yes. Oh, gosh.
Speaker: Sometimes, yeah, you just gotta be like... It's the inner child vibe of just being free, being. wild and... liberated in your body and your being and not again existing from your mind of
Speaker: What you think you're supposed to be doing and saying. So my twerk shop is a space where I'm. bringing women together to do that to like access that feral just fun wild part of self Because again, I teach at... and host events at.
Speaker: Um, five, six local studios in the Seacoast area. And... So much of it is beautiful and helpful and wonderful. I love to host my yin and the sound bath and the restorative classes. and these really deep like restful nourishing experiences that is so important.
Speaker: And... What I saw lacking was like... the vocal expression of we're gonna fucking growl together and we're gonna scream and we're gonna move like rage through our bodies and we're gonna just have fun and be silly and weird also and not always be healing. and Yes.
Speaker: Yeah, so I just did air quotes for anyone who's listening to the... just like But yeah, I absolutely love it. and so beautiful I was just hanging out in the parking lot the other day my boyfriend was inside getting dinner I wasn't wearing shoes so I was just stretching in the parking lot because I couldn't go inside And this woman...
Speaker: who makes juices locally. She has a farm and she makes juices. So good. Her business name is Everyday Boost Juice. Aw. It's like... is wearing this beautiful goddess outfit and she wanders up to me and she's like I really want to come to your twerk shop this month. And also I want to bring some juices. I'm thinking watermelon lemon. And I was like.
Speaker: yes oh my god that is the dream collab so we're gonna get juicy with the juices shake some juicy and just have a great time yeah oh my god I love that I love having the juice there to be juicy I wish I lived by you Holly that sounds so fun no I like I need to do a like a You need to go on tour. or A twerk shop tour.
Speaker: Yeah. You really do. went um Wait, what day is it? Just in case anyone is listening. Yes, yes. It's um August 13th. So I don't know if the...
Speaker: pod will be out by then or not, but yeah, August 13th at 6 30 to 7 45 and then September 10th. So there's another one a little bit farther out too.
Speaker: Okay, awesome. I think this might be out like that. the week right before that comes out so that would be awesome i'll be yeah you said september 10th if not this one Yeah. Um...
Speaker: How can people join like path of purpose like are you currently enrolling do you do is it like you're like do people apply are you only like accepting candidates or not candidates. I'm recruiting. So I don't know candidates. I think that's why I'm like apply candidates, but yeah. How can people work with you? And like, are you currently taking on new clients?
Speaker: Yes. So the current cohort, it's the first cohort of this program. It ends. at the end of September. And then I'm going to... run it again in October, in late October.
Speaker: um So I am currently enrolling for the October cohort, but the this current one is closed because this particular. rendition of it. I've been doing it more. And I like structured it builds each week builds upon the next kind of vibe.
Speaker: um But the beautiful, fun thing of entrepreneurship and. creativity and refinement as we go. is that I'm thinking for...
Speaker: the October cohort um that I am going to, it's currently a three month program. i'm Thinking of extending it. Haven't decided exactly how how much extension yet.
Speaker: And then my goal in the future is to have it be more evergreen. to have the like program itself that I've created to be sort of a standalone like you can go through that yourself but then to create this little portal for entrepreneurs to tap into at any point to get this kind of grounded.
Speaker: but also mystical support. um along with that course. But and all of it's all of it's in the air. But October. I am enrolling and it's early bird pricing. So this is a great time to reach out. um And I love.
Speaker: Again, because I'm a projector. and And just for so many different reasons too, but I love really intimate spaces and like. going in deep with my people. I'm not like, nobody is just a number who comes into my world. like I will be watching your stories and I'm thinking of you through my life. And if you, like one of the women is a forest bathing guide, like when I'm out in the forest, I'm thinking of you girl. Okay. Like.
Speaker: I feel like a lot of Not a lot, but. It's not uncommon for coaches in the online space to get overwhelmed with the amount of people in their world and to not have that depth of. connection to their people. And it's. so important to me until like you.
Speaker: will probably like become my friend if we were me too that's how I am too I'm like I love my clients. Like it's so intimate. It's like.
Speaker: I don't know. It's like we're doing life together, kind of. yeah I would not just want to be a number because I've experienced on the other end of that. I've experienced great investments and ones that. yeah i felt like just a number so i was like i'm never doing that Yeah, no, exactly. exactly um yeah and I just can't wait like I said the way that this program has been channeling through me is blowing my mind. wide open because my heart is leading the way for sure.
Speaker: um And I'm just about halfway through this current cohort. um And like, I'm so proud. I'm really proud of what I'm. grading here and i can't wait to just continue to talk about it more, invite more people into it and...
Speaker: Help. More. women. lead their lives. from this space of. Trust in that greater thing, wanting to move through them and create through them and that it doesn't have to be like a little hobby thing, like your actual.
Speaker: life. and business. can be this beautiful expression of your your soul. Hmm. Pretty incredible. That's so beautiful Holly. do you have any like last things on your heart to tell everyone laugh I'm just so grateful to be able. um To share time and space with people like you and.
Speaker: That following my heart has. led me to so many incredible connections and um like way beyond what I imagined. And I think that's the fun.
Speaker: And scary, but mostly fun part of. following your heart and following those deeper knowings is that your mind can't even fathom like 10%. of what you're meant for and what's going to happen.
Speaker: And it's such an adventure to like be surprised by your own life and by yourself. like When I was a kid, I had a lot of social anxiety.
Speaker: I was really not good at talking to people. And every single way you can imagine that I was avoiding it. I was. mm -hmm go to have My business so centered on.
Speaker: relationship. and talking to people and really getting to know people to a great depth. Like, just absolutely blows my mind. But I love it.
Speaker: It feels so good. And yeah, I just like. Truly believe that every single. human out there. has this thread that they can follow. And I know that you.
Speaker: feel the same with the gene keys stuff too that When you follow those threads, like. all of us deserve so much love and joy and abundance and prosperity and It's not reserved for.
Speaker: someone else like you can have that too. Mhm. Oh. That is so beautiful. Thank you. Where can people find you so that they can connect with you?
Speaker: Yes. um Cycles and Shadows Healing is my main Instagram. I also just started a podcast Instagram. Cycles and Shadows pod.
Speaker: My podcast is on most of the podcast streaming places. um And then my website also is cyclesandshadowshealing .com and everything, everything's on there. That's like the hub. of where to go.
Speaker: Perfect. Okay, awesome. And I'll put everything in the show notes so you guys can follow Holly, join her world. She has so many fun things coming up. And yeah, just thank you again for taking the time out of your day to be here with me. This was...
Speaker: Such an honor. And yeah, just being to be a guest on your podcast. I was like, girl, when I start mine again, you're like my number one person. I'm like, you have to come on mine. So yeah, I'm just so happy to have you here to bring. back mine.
Speaker: to make it alive again. um And yeah, thank you guys for listening. I hope you guys have the best day and we'll talk to you later. Bye bye!
