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In this episode this will be a very late review but we will be looking back at our 1-0 defeat at the hands of the Premier League champions Liverpool and looking at where it went wrong and what could have gone better. Now if you want to get involved with any of our topics discussed please do get involved through our social media, which can be found in our show notes in the description.
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Guest: Josh Duncan & Rodney Gooden
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Introduction and Guest Introductions
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Global Sports Podcast Network
Hello everyone and welcome to the Daily Arsenal Podcast where this is your one-stop shop as we bring you all the latest Arsenal news and views. Brought to you on the GSPN Podcast Network and back from scoring a hat-trick, it's your host Jamie Patterson and I'm joined by my crew of Arsenal fanatics.
00:00:34
Global Sports Podcast Network
First up, I'm also joined by a man who, like myself, has probably scored many hat-tricks in his Power League career. It is the man himself, Mr Joshua Duncan. And next up, I'm pretty sure we have a man here who can pretty much be the next David Ryer in the making or even the next Kai Haberts.
00:00:53
Rodney Gooden
Oh.
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JD
Yeah.
00:00:55
Global Sports Podcast Network
I mean, at the end of the day, it is the one and only Mr.
00:00:55
Rodney Gooden
Oh.
00:00:58
Global Sports Podcast Network
Rodney Gooden.
00:00:59
JD
Yeah. get beautiful
00:01:02
Global Sports Podcast Network
Guys, are we keeping?
00:01:04
Rodney Gooden
Yeah.
00:01:05
JD
Not too bad.
00:01:06
Rodney Gooden
Well.
00:01:07
JD
Not too bad, man.
00:01:09
Global Sports Podcast Network
Like the intros? I see you guys are really liking the intros now.
00:01:10
Rodney Gooden
oh yeah yeah either David Raya or Kai Havertz just oh I see no matter what area the pitch needs covering I said I got it alright I see it
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LAUGHTER
00:01:14
JD
I mean, you must have done something to it. Yeah.
00:01:19
Global Sports Podcast Network
Listen, I'm sure. and And you know what? If worse comes to worse, I'm sure JD will get frustrated with the Kai Havers reference as always.
00:01:26
JD
I don't need to call me him.
00:01:26
Global Sports Podcast Network
I had to drop it in somewhere, didn't I? You
00:01:29
Rodney Gooden
hilarious
00:01:30
JD
That's fine. yeah
00:01:33
Global Sports Podcast Network
know what, Kai, if you're listening, you've got a long time admirer in Joshua Duncan here. So, you know, feel free to hit us up on socials.
00:01:43
Rodney Gooden
Ha ha ha.
Analyzing Arsenal's Defeat to Liverpool
00:01:44
Global Sports Podcast Network
But guys, in this episode, which is a very, very late review, we'll be looking back at our 1-0 defeat at the hands of the Premier League champions Liverpool.
00:01:54
Global Sports Podcast Network
Also looking at where it went wrong for us and where it could have gone better. But guys, as always, if you want to get involved with any of the topics discussed on the show, please do get involved through our social media, which can be found in our show notes in the description.
00:02:10
Global Sports Podcast Network
Right, guys. I mean, i don't know where we start really, but, you know, going to Anfield, you know, i don't know how you how did you guys feel before the game, actually? Like just before the game, did you guys, were you guys hopeful that we could maybe go and do something in terms of, you know, cause an upset or or take a point out of Liverpool?
00:02:32
Rodney Gooden
Yeah, I was confident, like especially after the transfer window that we'd had. I thought this was absolutely going to be an opportunity to go to Anfield, hopefully make a statement.
00:02:37
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:02:42
Rodney Gooden
Three for three, nine points, top of the leaderboards. it would have been amazing. yeah Sit pretty at the top of the table going into the international break. I thought that would be incredible. And well, it was not to be.
00:02:54
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:02:54
JD
Thank you.
00:02:55
Rodney Gooden
It was not quite to be.
00:02:57
Rodney Gooden
And I know that for a lot of Arsenal fans, they all started having doubts when that team sheet came out. You know, that was it. So it's an interesting one. You know, me personally, I knew that going to Anfield was always going to be a difficult one, but I was excited before the game.
00:03:09
Rodney Gooden
I had some questions when the tee sheet came out, but when I saw the game plan, actual and active, or come out in actual practice, I was quite confident with how are we played in that first half.
00:03:12
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah
00:03:16
Rodney Gooden
So upsetting not to get those three points, but we move, boys. We move.
Pre-Match Expectations and Recap
00:03:21
Global Sports Podcast Network
Now, for those of you that obviously can't see us and you're listening to us through ah Spotify or through Apple Podcasts, whilst Rodney was talking, JD had probably quite a grin on his face while also nodding as well.
00:03:24
JD
<unk> yeah
00:03:35
Global Sports Podcast Network
So, JD, what were your thoughts on that?
00:03:40
JD
I mean, Rodney thought we would go there and um boss it. I mean, you don't boss Anfield. Do you know what mean? You don't go there and boss it. Unless Forrest, you don't go and boss it. You know, I thought if you get a draw there Anfield, it's not the end of the world. If we win, brilliant. You know what mean? But I didn't see us going there to win.
00:04:00
JD
I didn't see Arteta setting out for us to win. It's one of the ones where you're hanging through the game for the first 30 minutes the game, maybe half an hour, and then you probably get a lucky break and probably get them in the count-up. um I don't think we took our chances.
00:04:12
JD
A bit unlucky not to get a point from that game, but, you know, it is where it
00:04:18
Global Sports Podcast Network
No, absolutely. I agree with you there, JD. I mean, before the game, I was actually just hopeful
Memorable Past Performances at Anfield
00:04:23
Global Sports Podcast Network
of a draw. I mean, I know I said in my prediction that we would we'd go and win, but, you know, i was actually really hopeful for a draw.
00:04:31
Global Sports Podcast Network
You know, let's be honest, you look back, when when we look back through the history books and, you know, you look back at Liverpool Arsenal, you know, majority of them games have ended pretty much in a draw or ah Liverpool win.
00:04:42
Rodney Gooden
Yeah.
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Global Sports Podcast Network
ah Can any of you guys remember the last time Arsenal won at Anfield? JD?
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JD
um I believe it was 2-1. Sandy Cozzola scored.
00:04:52
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yep.
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JD
Who did that other goal scorer?
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Global Sports Podcast Network
Yep.
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JD
I can't remember. Was it her own goal? Was it Wilcox?
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Global Sports Podcast Network
Or even now you've got me thinking, oh.
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JD
I can't remember. but I can't remember. But it was I can't remember what year was now. Is that 2010?
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Global Sports Podcast Network
I thought for some reason it was 2012.
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JD
It could be 2012 as well. We wear the purple kit.
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Global Sports Podcast Network
I thought it was 2012. I'm pretty sure.
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JD
and
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Rodney Gooden
Wow.
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Global Sports Podcast Network
Pretty sure. Wasn't it the kit? It was the black and purple kit.
00:05:21
JD
Yeah, it was that kid.
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Global Sports Podcast Network
Black and purple Nike kit.
00:05:23
JD
Yeah.
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Global Sports Podcast Network
Oh, what good times.
00:05:24
JD
And D'Arby had like one of the best performances in midfield.
00:05:27
Global Sports Podcast Network
Oh, yes.
00:05:28
JD
He completely bust it. I mean, he kind of showed that day. If he could just stay fit, would have been a legend. you know what mean?
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Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, definitely. Spot on there. What player. But um yeah, I mean, i was quite hopeful for a draw. Thought to myself, you know what? We can go to Anfield if we can.
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Global Sports Podcast Network
You know, we've got a stronger squad than what we've had in previous seasons.
Player Performance Evaluations
00:05:50
Rodney Gooden
Hmm. Hmm.
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Global Sports Podcast Network
The fact that we've now got recognised out-and-out striker, I thought, you know what? This could work in our favour. And I think we played well. We played relatively well. I think it was a decent game.
00:06:02
Global Sports Podcast Network
I do agree with JD. We just didn't take our chances. And unfortunately, we we got punished for it, didn't we?
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JD
Yeah.
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Global Sports Podcast Network
Really did get punished for it. um One player I want to talk about, and, you know, this has been very much divided opinions, is Nonny Madweke.
00:06:20
Global Sports Podcast Network
I mean, him against Liverpool was something else, wasn't he? What were your thoughts on Nonny Madweke?
00:06:26
Rodney Gooden
Yeah.
00:06:28
Rodney Gooden
Honestly, ah sensational. Like, really, really solid standing for Saka as well. Like, I honestly do feel that when you've got Saka on the pitch and that player's missing before a massive game like Anfield, it's big boost to Phil.
00:06:33
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:06:39
Rodney Gooden
Really, really needed the player to step up that way. And I thought he was direct, looked aggressive. I thought most of his duels with Kerkes, he was getting the better of him. He was unlucky not to get a few shots off, like unlucky not to get the occasional cross off.
00:06:50
Rodney Gooden
I think Kerkes time to ah kind of sort grew into the game as the game progressed. But at the start, Noni was running him ragged and it was really, really impressive. Really, really lovely to see.
00:06:59
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, I mean, I saw, i think the one one point that I had to bring up was the foot race between him and Kerkis. I mean, goodness me.
00:07:10
Rodney Gooden
Yeah.
00:07:11
Global Sports Podcast Network
I mean, left him for left him for dust, really, didn't he, JD?
00:07:15
Rodney Gooden
Yeah.
00:07:16
JD
ah yeah Yeah, he did alright. For me personally, he did okay. He asked questions and he tried to get something going.
00:07:24
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:07:24
JD
I just think from his final ball, it could have been a bit better. I think sometimes you're taking too many touches when go to the edge of the box. There are certain times where I'm literally screaming at you, whip it at the back post. I can see it there.
00:07:35
JD
I'm looking at there.
00:07:35
Global Sports Podcast Network
good
00:07:36
JD
It's not good to do it. at the back post.
00:07:38
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah. Yeah.
00:07:38
JD
And he just took so long making decisions. When i was watching mom my cousin, my uncle, my uncle was saying, you know I think he might be a maybe man, you know. He doesn't look like he's the finished article. He's a guy who asks questions, but when you need and the final delivery, the final part, he's just not going to deliver it.
00:07:50
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah
00:07:53
JD
and And only time can really tell, really. But he's the only one I can say, attack me wise. He literally tried to ask questions. he tried to make something happen.
00:08:02
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, I agree. I think, you know, his presence down the wing was really good. And, you know, as you said, Rodney, great, you know, good backup for Saka, really good backup for Saka in a sense.
00:08:12
Rodney Gooden
Yeah.
00:08:13
Global Sports Podcast Network
And i I think he'll be really good as the season goes on.
00:08:17
Rodney Gooden
Yeah.
00:08:18
Global Sports Podcast Network
But ah unfortunately, ah just pains me to say it. But we have to talk about another injury.
00:08:27
JD
Yeah.
00:08:27
Rodney Gooden
Oh, boy.
Impact of Injuries on Arsenal
00:08:28
Rodney Gooden
In the opening four minutes as well.
00:08:28
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, um and already you can see where we're going with this, guys. But we have to talk about William Saliba. You know, going down in the early stages, probably not, what was it, not even five minutes into the game.
00:08:41
Rodney Gooden
Yeah, it's about minute four.
00:08:41
JD
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:08:42
Global Sports Podcast Network
Minute four, he went down and straight away, alarm bells started ringing in my head. Boys, what were your thoughts when you when you saw him go down?
00:08:52
Rodney Gooden
Honestly, panic immediately. You know, I think ultimately when Mosquera came in, I was surprised at the level of job that he put in there because when I saw Saliba go down in a game like that at Anfield against Liverpool, one of the teams with the best, you know, transitional attackers in the league, I thought, yeah, that was it.
00:08:54
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:08:59
JD
the Yeah.
00:09:07
Rodney Gooden
Game, set, match. LAUGHTER
00:09:09
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:09:10
Rodney Gooden
So, yeah, honestly, yeah, terrified to see that in the last in the opening four minutes. And on top of that, another player that we have injured. you know What is all going on with our luck too?
00:09:20
JD
Yeah.
00:09:20
Rodney Gooden
It's ridiculous.
00:09:21
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah. JD, I must ask, do you do you maybe question Arteta's training regime? Because I know I spoke a bit about this last season. But do you maybe question his training regime? Because when you look at the players that we've got out, you know, kind again, players that we've had, ah the same players that we've pretty much had out last season.
00:09:41
Global Sports Podcast Network
ah But, you know, your likes of, you know, your sackers and obviously your favourite, Kai Havertz. But, you know, um do you kind of question Arteta's training regime?
00:09:53
JD
um I think there's a question to be asked, I think, because I feel last seen a lot of people had a lot of hamstring injuries, if I'm mistaken.
00:09:59
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah. Yeah.
00:10:00
JD
So maybe there's something to do in the training. This season, I think it's probably a bit too early to say if it's Arteta's training methods. It could be a thing where players are starting to get back into the rhythm of it, the body's not used to it.
00:10:08
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:10:14
JD
Maybe the players themselves are overtraining. Maybe Kai Havertz is trying to push
Mosquera's Defensive Role and Potential Partnership
00:10:19
JD
himself too far to get that starting position. So that's the best thing.
00:10:22
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah
00:10:23
JD
He did ever get injured. But that's what Rudney was saying. Yeah. something would say Mascara, I think Mascara did a one ah ah fantastic job there. mean, for him to come on, like that's basically, not his debut, but basically his first time playing, starting kind of.
00:10:37
Rodney Gooden
Yeah,
00:10:38
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:10:38
JD
go to Anfield and for then go there and he didn't put a foot wrong, you know, he did everything right. So um you've got to give credit with Kedisjoo, think he did ah absolutely, I think he was one Arsenal's best players to be honest.
00:10:49
JD
yeah I didn't really think, I thought it would bit of a problem, not because he's not good enough, but a bit of nerves there, but he handled it really well.
00:10:49
Rodney Gooden
yeah.
00:10:55
Global Sports Podcast Network
Horse.
00:10:57
JD
i think he was it's only 20 years old?
00:10:57
Rodney Gooden
Yeah.
00:10:59
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:10:59
Rodney Gooden
twenty one i' think yeah
00:11:00
JD
21, yes.
00:11:00
Global Sports Podcast Network
21, roughly.
00:11:00
JD
you mean You've got to give credit with Kedisjoo, man.
00:11:04
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, I mean, Mosquera coming in, bearing a mind, big occasion, you know, and it's not like it was late in the game. This was early doors we're talking.
00:11:13
JD
Yeah, if anything for him.
00:11:13
Rodney Gooden
yeah yeah
00:11:14
Global Sports Podcast Network
You know, the fact that pretty much, yeah, literally, the fact that you've played the whole game,
00:11:16
JD
Yes,
00:11:21
Global Sports Podcast Network
And, you know, kept the likes of Eketike quiet, you know, you know, like not quiet, but, you know, he's not had many chances in front of goal. And the fact that he's done pretty well, you know, done really well, bearing in mind, this isn't at home as well.
00:11:35
JD
yes. being
00:11:40
Global Sports Podcast Network
This is a way at Anfield.
00:11:41
Rodney Gooden
me
00:11:43
Global Sports Podcast Network
whated What a way to kind of stamp your authority at Arsenal. And I mean, him and Gabriel, I think him and Gabriel could be a really good partnership. but but Obviously, with Saliba injured, I could see this being a really good partnership.
00:11:58
Global Sports Podcast Network
Don't what you guys think.
00:11:59
JD
Nice, man.
00:12:00
Rodney Gooden
no 100% agree um I'm actually quite confident in him being a starter for the next game based on the performance I saw at Anfield because agree with the rest of you as well I generally do feel a but one of the hardest games to come in that would have been away to the champions away to the champions and you've come in there and
00:12:11
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:12:14
Rodney Gooden
At times, he did look a bit nervous on the ball, but he grew into that game and honestly, made no major mistakes whatsoever. I thought, for a debut, it's a baptism in fire.
00:12:19
Global Sports Podcast Network
No.
00:12:22
Rodney Gooden
And honestly, he impressed wholeheartedly. And I'm looking at that price tag of $13 million, and I'm thinking, we might need to give them some more money too. Might need to give Valencia a little bit extra, because wow, what a player.
00:12:28
JD
yeah
00:12:29
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah
00:12:33
JD
Yeah, yeah, i agree. I agree.
00:12:34
Global Sports Podcast Network
I mean, JD, great. I mean, what a player for £13 million given the age of 21. twenty one i I actually said um when we were talking about our transfer review that I think he'll shine in the Champions League.
00:12:50
Rodney Gooden
Hmm.
00:12:50
Global Sports Podcast Network
I mean, what your thoughts what would your thoughts be on Mosquera coming up for this season?
00:12:55
JD
um To be honest, I think answer defensively, I don't really worry about them injury. I think we've got so much so cover there. It's a bit, there's stiff competition there, you know.
00:13:03
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:13:06
JD
I think if Saliba comes back, he might be fine for a place. i don't think he will be, but there's a conversation there. You know, we don't need Gabriel Saliba to play every game.
00:13:12
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:13:16
JD
And I think that was a problem we had last season and the season before that.
00:13:18
Rodney Gooden
Hmm.
00:13:20
JD
I think are probably our our problems injury wise is probably um up the up the front and pitch. I think if, you know, if Jockers gets injured, I mean, who plays front, you know? do you play with a false nine?
00:13:30
Global Sports Podcast Network
True.
00:13:30
JD
you play Jockard there? Do play Eze there?
00:13:33
Rodney Gooden
Hmm.
00:13:33
JD
What do you do, you know? Yeah.
00:13:34
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:13:35
Rodney Gooden
That's true.
00:13:35
Global Sports Podcast Network
No, I, do you know what? Another thing I really like about the defence is when you look at every Arsenal player, it's versatility.
00:13:44
JD
yeah
00:13:45
Rodney Gooden
Hmm.
00:13:45
Global Sports Podcast Network
You know, you have Mosquera, you have like Hincapié now that can be left-footed centre-back and a left-back. You have the same goes, I think the same is, the same can be said also for Calafiore.
00:13:59
Rodney Gooden
Hmm.
00:13:59
Global Sports Podcast Network
um Who else is there?
00:14:02
JD
You've got Ben White and Timber.
00:14:02
Global Sports Podcast Network
Ben White. when When Ben White is fit, right back, centre back, you know, I could list you more players.
00:14:07
Rodney Gooden
yeah
00:14:09
Global Sports Podcast Network
You know, Myles Lewis-Skelly, you know, fair enough.
00:14:09
Rodney Gooden
Yeah.
00:14:12
Global Sports Podcast Network
He can probably, I'm sure he could play anywhere along the back line. But, you know, you've got him playing as a left back, but can also play further up in the midfield.
00:14:15
Rodney Gooden
Yeah.
00:14:19
Rodney Gooden
Yeah. And don't forget, Mascara also had a decent showing at Right Back. I think was the Leeds game as well.
00:14:24
JD
Yeah.
00:14:24
JD
Yeah.
00:14:24
Rodney Gooden
Yeah.
00:14:24
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:14:25
JD
Yeah.
00:14:25
Rodney Gooden
So this is it.
00:14:25
JD
yeah
00:14:25
Rodney Gooden
So you can play that too.
00:14:27
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:14:27
JD
can see what took plan to do.
00:14:27
Global Sports Podcast Network
So...
00:14:28
JD
You can see the versatility there.
00:14:29
Rodney Gooden
Yeah.
00:14:30
JD
You can see he wants his back four to be versatile. whatever but and Whenever they need him, they can do that and do a shift. So, defensively, I'm not worried about
00:14:39
Global Sports Podcast Network
No, no, same here. I think for us more so, it's more further up ah further ah further up the field that we're more concerned about, aren't we, Galads?
00:14:48
Rodney Gooden
yeah
00:14:48
JD
us.
00:14:49
Rodney Gooden
True.
00:14:49
JD
Yeah.
00:14:51
Global Sports Podcast Network
But guys, we're going to take a quick break in the meantime. ah Listen to our partners from Bionic. And when we come back, we are going to further analyse the Liverpool
Analyzing Key Goals and Defensive Errors
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Global Sports Podcast Network
goal because just note that this is going to be a very heated second part.
00:15:07
Global Sports Podcast Network
So join us after the break.
00:15:48
Global Sports Podcast Network
Why does this always happen?
00:15:49
JD
Yeah.
00:15:49
Global Sports Podcast Network
now
00:15:50
Rodney Gooden
Every time. Every time.
00:15:50
Global Sports Podcast Network
Dear me.
00:15:51
Rodney Gooden
Without fail.
00:15:52
Global Sports Podcast Network
Well, welcome back to the second part of the Liverpool Review, where I'm joined by JD and Rodney Goodham. um Guys, let's let's let's get to the main bit here, because there there's so much to talk about when it comes to the goal.
00:16:10
Global Sports Podcast Network
But what were your thoughts on the on the goal from Sobosly?
00:16:14
Rodney Gooden
From Sobs, absolutely majestic free kick. I couldn't even be upset with that. You know, as I was saying to JD earlier, my phone started blowing up as soon as it went in, you know.
00:16:22
JD
Yeah.
00:16:23
Rodney Gooden
There's a lot of rival fans giving me grief, you know, taking the mic. And I couldn't even be upset, you know. I have to say, you know what, sometimes you to put your hands up and say, it's not even any real fault of our own at that point, you know. What are you supposed to do?
00:16:33
Rodney Gooden
That is majestic. He hasn't really done it for his club on a regular basis, but you know he can do it because he does it for his country on a regular basis. And good Lord, wow, what a hit. I know there were some questions asked of the positioning of Raya over the course of that goal, but...
00:16:47
Rodney Gooden
I think when you actually have a look back at it as well, you can see that you've got Liverpool players in that wall. And of course, with Raya, you need to be having a look to make sure that you can see the run up to the ball as well and keeping an eye on that kind of, you know, arc and trajectory the ball at all times.
00:17:00
Rodney Gooden
I feel like you you see him move into the centre as that kick is taken. And it's hit so perfectly that it was reminiscent of the Rice goal against Real. Where you're looking at Courtois you're thinking, you know what? To be fair, there's nothing else you can really do in that point.
00:17:11
Rodney Gooden
Jamie, I know you disagree. I can see you. But I looked at that free kick and I thought, you know what?
00:17:13
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:17:15
Rodney Gooden
To be fair, it's not just a Boz like hit. It's also the setup as well. and from Liverpool as well.
00:17:18
JD
Yeah.
00:17:20
JD
Yeah.
00:17:20
Rodney Gooden
And I thought, yeah, you know what?
00:17:21
Rodney Gooden
What can you do? If you're really going to criticise it, I think maybe you need to have a look at what was going on in the midfield that led to the giving away of that free kick in the first place. Did Zuby need to make that foul? Also, could we have made an adjustment earlier to stop the Liverpool players from running through our midfield?
00:17:35
Rodney Gooden
Because the reason that happened was that 60 to, I think, minute 75 moment of dominance where they were overloading the midfield and they were just playing through us, causing us to foul, causing us to do whatever we could to stop them on the attack.
00:17:39
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah
00:17:45
Rodney Gooden
And well, you know what happened next?
00:17:50
Global Sports Podcast Network
JD, what were your thoughts?
00:17:52
JD
Yeah, I can't. I have to agree with Rodney. You know, it's a great free kick.
00:17:55
Global Sports Podcast Network
Of course.
00:17:56
JD
I mean, it was...
00:17:56
Global Sports Podcast Network
Of course.
00:17:57
JD
I literally, my mouth was wide open when I saw it, you know. um I with Zubimendi, I think he kind of had to make that foul. was one of the professional fouls.
00:18:06
JD
No one thought you were going to from there and and um score, you know. um Yeah, it's one of the ones where... Back in the game, we were overrunning the midfield. Maybe we could have done a bit better.
00:18:06
Rodney Gooden
Yeah.
00:18:18
JD
But you have to give credit with Kedeku. He slapped at the top corner, man. you know i mean even I know, you don't like Ray's positioning. But let's just let's just look at it right? Because think they even did this on match the day.
00:18:29
Rodney Gooden
yeah
00:18:30
JD
I think Rene Rooney said the same thing you said, some of his positioning.
00:18:30
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:18:33
JD
And literally Joe Hart, a goalkeeper, literally kind of just said, look, there's nothing you can do about it. It's a world team, you know? I don't see what what more he can really do. He goes to that side. i think even if he was to fix his positioning, it's kind of right in the corner with pace.
00:18:48
JD
And off the post, he's not getting it. Think about it. If he gets a hand to it, it's a really good save.
00:18:49
Rodney Gooden
Yeah.
00:18:54
Rodney Gooden
Yeah.
00:18:55
JD
That's how you've got look at it.
00:18:57
Rodney Gooden
Yeah. And also, again, as I said before, if he's central before the kick is taken, his vision's obscured by the Liverpool players in the wall.
00:18:58
JD
Yeah.
00:19:03
JD
Yeah.
00:19:04
Rodney Gooden
So then what happens is the ball comes over the top and he reacts to it late anyway because he can't see the kick. So, it look.
00:19:09
JD
I don't know what i don't but what you can really do more, really.
00:19:12
Rodney Gooden
Yeah.
00:19:12
Global Sports Podcast Network
To be honest with you, the way I see it, right, is I think there was a slight gap in that wall.
00:19:18
Global Sports Podcast Network
I don't think the wall was... I don't think that wall was solid enough. I think there was a gap in the wall. And obviously, at first, you can see that Raya stands more left of his goal.
00:19:18
Rodney Gooden
Yeah.
00:19:30
Rodney Gooden
Yeah, left.
00:19:31
JD
yeah
00:19:31
Global Sports Podcast Network
And for me, I just think if you were standing a little bit more central... And bearing in mind, Rodney, you said that he was at full stretch. And I think at full stretch, I think he could have maybe got a hand to it.
00:19:44
Global Sports Podcast Network
I wouldn't have... I wouldn't have, like...
00:19:45
JD
That's harsh.
00:19:45
Rodney Gooden
Yeah.
00:19:46
JD
That is harsh.
00:19:46
Global Sports Podcast Network
I'm sorry, but I wouldn't have complained if he got a hand to it and the ball went in the net. I wouldn't have complained because I thought, all right, fair enough. You know, you were full stretch. You've tried to get a hand to it. Fair enough. That's what's happened.
00:19:58
Global Sports Podcast Network
But I honestly think Ryder's positioning, and even Craig said it. Craig said it as well. I can even get the voice notes if I have to.
00:20:04
Rodney Gooden
Yeah.
00:20:06
Global Sports Podcast Network
ah yeah
00:20:07
JD
gas block That's harsh, man.
00:20:08
Global Sports Podcast Network
But...
00:20:08
JD
That's really, really harsh.
00:20:09
Rodney Gooden
Yeah, it is hard.
00:20:09
JD
Even in my standards.
00:20:10
Global Sports Podcast Network
Look, don't...
00:20:10
Rodney Gooden
But i don't i don't I don't completely disagree because when I first watched it, I thought the same thing.
00:20:15
Rodney Gooden
It was only when i was watching analysis later that I thought, oh yeah, you actually do to have a look at
00:20:15
JD
Yeah.
00:20:19
Rodney Gooden
his vision, his eyeline, you know, his positioning is there to kind of, you know, make sure that it doesn't come over that wall too late. And another thing I'll say as well is r is only six foot zero too. If he was six foot six behemoth as well, had a bit of extra height on him too, maybe you can argue with a bit more wingspan, a bit more lift, he could have hit that.
00:20:29
JD
yeah
00:20:37
Rodney Gooden
But I go, yeah, you know He's a six foot keeper. That's going to be him at full stretch. but Barely misses it. Maybe if he was a bit taller, it could have worked out, but I forgive him for that.
00:20:46
JD
Yeah, ah yeah.
00:20:46
Global Sports Podcast Network
I get it. I get it. Don't don't don't get nothing twisted.
00:20:48
JD
I
00:20:51
Global Sports Podcast Network
i have no no like I have no arguments against the goal. so you know From Sabot's like, you know brilliant free kick.
00:20:57
Rodney Gooden
Oh
00:20:57
Global Sports Podcast Network
you know i i completely get it. let's not Let's not take any credit away where it's due.
00:21:02
Rodney Gooden
oh yeah, yeah. Yeah.
00:21:03
Global Sports Podcast Network
But I just think if he was a bit more central, a bit more central, there might have been some hope.
00:21:08
Rodney Gooden
yeah
00:21:10
JD
don't think he gets it. I still don't think he gets it. I don't think it gets it.
00:21:14
Global Sports Podcast Network
ah still thought I think he just might.
00:21:15
Rodney Gooden
yeah
00:21:15
JD
You just saw it too late. You just saw it too late.
00:21:18
Rodney Gooden
You would have seen it too late. that was it Yeah, it's true.
00:21:19
JD
Yeah, it'll be way too late.
00:21:20
Rodney Gooden
and And I think what you also neglect is before Dominic Samozla even kicks it, Wired does move to be more central as well. As soon as that wall peels.
00:21:27
JD
He does. He does.
00:21:28
Global Sports Podcast Network
Now, my thing is, right, that's where that's where it is for me.
00:21:28
Rodney Gooden
but He starts off left and as he takes the run up, he goes into the centre.
00:21:31
Global Sports Podcast Network
a Now, look, if he was central, took one extra step to the right, that would have been a different that could have been a different story altogether.
00:21:37
JD
Nah. nah
00:21:39
Rodney Gooden
that
00:21:41
JD
No, he's still not going to get...
00:21:41
Global Sports Podcast Network
Come on.
00:21:42
Rodney Gooden
He sees it late.
00:21:44
JD
He sees it late, he's not going to get to it.
00:21:45
Rodney Gooden
Yeah.
00:21:46
JD
It's one of ones where you have to...
00:21:46
Rodney Gooden
To be fair, Ryder's reflexes are pretty you know they are pretty solid.
00:21:49
Global Sports Podcast Network
They are good. they they are prick They are very good.
00:21:50
Rodney Gooden
Yeah.
00:21:51
JD
I mean, that's pretty much right in the corner.
00:21:52
Rodney Gooden
So maybe, even seeing it late, he could have.
00:21:52
Global Sports Podcast Network
Don't get that twisted.
00:21:54
Rodney Gooden
Yeah. Yeah.
00:21:55
JD
That's pretty much right in the corner. You can't you can't really... work and What can Mike and you really do?
00:21:59
Rodney Gooden
Yeah. Fair.
00:22:00
JD
You know what I mean? It's a perfect free kit, mate. Almost perfect, I'd say.
00:22:04
Rodney Gooden
Yeah.
00:22:05
JD
Almost perfect, so...
00:22:07
Global Sports Podcast Network
Do you know what? I can't wait to get Craig on because I'm telling you, Craig would vouch.
00:22:12
Global Sports Podcast Network
Craig would vouch for me. Craig would vouch.
00:22:12
Rodney Gooden
yeah
00:22:15
Rodney Gooden
yeah
00:22:15
Global Sports Podcast Network
I'm sure he would.
00:22:16
JD
ain't i at You know how it feels. Everyone's always against me.
00:22:19
Global Sports Podcast Network
Ah, the pain.
00:22:19
Rodney Gooden
Yeah.
00:22:21
Global Sports Podcast Network
Ah, the pain.
00:22:23
Rodney Gooden
Yeah.
00:22:26
Global Sports Podcast Network
But going back to something I actually want to touch upon, both of you said it actually, do you think Arsenal's midfield kind of faltered down?
00:22:29
Rodney Gooden
Yeah.
00:22:34
Global Sports Podcast Network
And that, do you think, like, um want to talk Arsenal's midfield because, don't get me wrong, on paper we have a great midfield, but do you think maybe in the second half, Liverpool kind of just outpowered us in the midfield and that's where we were really exploited?
00:22:38
Rodney Gooden
yeah
00:22:49
Rodney Gooden
Yeah, I'd say so. I think what happened was McAllister got taken off for Curtis Jones. And I think that was when you saw Slott making the first real substitution of that game.
00:22:56
JD
Yeah.
00:22:59
Rodney Gooden
You know, a cagey battle where both attack and defense from both teams were being nullified across the board.
00:22:59
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:23:04
Rodney Gooden
And I think he makes one substitution where Curtis Jones is moving into the midfield. So Bozla is pushing into that midfield as well. And now you've got a bit of an overload where we're not winning those duels. And then you've got some absolutely pristine passes from VVD as well.
00:23:16
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:23:16
Rodney Gooden
Wurz gets to play further up the pitch. And I told you there was that period of dominance, I think 60 minutes to 75, where we'll be getting peppered. And it was bad. And I thought at that point, we should have made the change.
00:23:24
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:23:25
Rodney Gooden
In fact, there was one, it was the disallowed goal for the slight offside.
00:23:29
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:23:29
Rodney Gooden
I thought that as well came as a result of like us not being able to adapt properly to that kind of overload in the midfield.
00:23:33
JD
Yeah. Yeah. yeah
00:23:35
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:23:35
Rodney Gooden
We should have made a substitution as well to stop that from happening.
00:23:38
Rodney Gooden
And that advantage that Liverpool had with that sort of extra man is what ultimately led to them playing through us, Zubimendi having to draw the foul and then the free kick. If we responded to that properly, chances are we could have walked away with nil-nil.
00:23:49
Rodney Gooden
Or maybe if Eze had scored that chance towards the end of the game, who knows? That could have been it. But to be fair, you can't even put the blame on him.
00:23:54
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:23:55
Rodney Gooden
There was quite a few moments where we could have had to finish that game whatsoever. Absolutely. But it wasn't really to be. But yeah, I do feel that we could have stopped that Liverpool goal if we just maybe had Mikel adapt a bit faster.
00:24:08
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, no, I agree. I think for me, the the first warning sign was the offside goal. And I thought, right, at that point, you you have to do something because, you know, that that should have been the instant wake-up call to be like, right, I know how Liverpool are going to try and attack now.
00:24:13
JD
Yeah,
00:24:13
Rodney Gooden
Yeah.
00:24:13
Rodney Gooden
Yeah.
00:24:16
Rodney Gooden
Yeah.
00:24:24
Global Sports Podcast Network
we need to now plug that out. And unfortunately, it just wasn't plugged out. I will be honest, with Zubimendi, I think the tackle had to be made because already in that stage of the game, like you said there, JD, at that stage of the game,
00:24:34
Rodney Gooden
Yeah.
00:24:34
JD
i agree
00:24:37
Rodney Gooden
Yeah.
Critiquing Arteta's Game Management
00:24:40
Global Sports Podcast Network
Liverpool, like the firepower was just there and we needed to extinguish it one way or another.
00:24:42
Rodney Gooden
Yeah.
00:24:44
Global Sports Podcast Network
And Zubimendi doing what he'd done, it had to be done or else it could have probably been worse.
00:24:48
Rodney Gooden
yeah
00:24:50
Rodney Gooden
yeah
00:24:50
Global Sports Podcast Network
You know, if Liverpool have got that goal from open play, that could have given them the the momentum to really go and kick on.
00:24:56
Rodney Gooden
Yep.
00:24:57
JD
I think with Saliba getting injured but i'm mascaring and you know you've got the substitution windows, I think that's probably when he probably wanted to change the game a bit more earlier and I think he just did it too late.
00:25:01
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:25:10
JD
I think if Saliba doesn't get injured, I think he makes those changes a bit earlier and we don't see that goal, hope maybe.
00:25:10
Rodney Gooden
Mm.
00:25:10
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah. Hmm.
00:25:17
JD
I think that's probably where was thinking.
00:25:17
Rodney Gooden
Mm.
00:25:19
JD
he what thinking when I make this change, I've got to do it time where I can get this guy on, I can get this guy and I can change that. And I think he did leave a bit too late.
00:25:26
Rodney Gooden
Mm.
00:25:28
JD
I'm not going to put the blame on him completely. i but But having said that, I want to put Matt Downs on. I want want to play them this game.
00:25:34
Rodney Gooden
Yeah.
00:25:35
JD
That was a weird Yeah, I didn't...
00:25:36
Global Sports Podcast Network
Do you know what?
00:25:36
Rodney Gooden
Agreed.
00:25:36
Global Sports Podcast Network
in In that situation, it's too big. and ah it's too I'm sorry to say it, but it's too big of an occasion.
00:25:39
JD
yeah that I'm not angry by it because he didn't really play for that long, but he's one of the ones that I had to be like, what?
00:25:44
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, true.
00:25:44
Rodney Gooden
Yeah.
00:25:47
JD
You've got to look at Waniere and Waniere today on that bench, you must be thinking, boy, what have I got to do to not even and now we get a look in? You've got Odegaard, Odegaard's not 100% fit, right?
00:25:47
Rodney Gooden
Yeah.
00:25:55
Global Sports Podcast Network
you know what?
00:25:55
Rodney Gooden
Yeah.
00:25:58
Rodney Gooden
yeah
00:25:58
Global Sports Podcast Network
No.
00:25:58
JD
That we know of at the time. um He came on, you you would have been thinking, yeah, that was him. Come on, Gaffer, let me have a go, man. You know what mean?
00:26:06
Rodney Gooden
yeah
00:26:06
Global Sports Podcast Network
Also, another before we go to an ad break, um one thing I do want to bring up is his new contract. Surely there must have been some form of discussion with Ethan Waniere's contract where he was guaranteed a bit of game time. And for me...
00:26:22
Global Sports Podcast Network
I'm not seeing that. I know it's still really early days, but i'm I haven't quite seen that being fulfilled yet.
00:26:24
JD
Yeah. m
00:26:28
Global Sports Podcast Network
However, though, i know that obviously next week is going to be quite demanding because we'll have Premier League, Champions League, Premier League, Carabao Cup, Premier League.
00:26:28
Rodney Gooden
yeah
00:26:32
Rodney Gooden
yeah
00:26:38
Global Sports Podcast Network
um So would love to Ethan try and get a good run out in the Champions League and give him 90 minutes in the Carabao Cup because the end of the day, we have a gem of a talent here.
00:26:48
Rodney Gooden
Hmm.
00:26:52
Global Sports Podcast Network
We've seen it last season. And I'd like to see it a bit more from Ethan Waniere this year because you know you've been given a contract. You've been given a new contract. surely that Surely that means you will be guaranteed a little bit of game time out there, surely.
00:26:52
Rodney Gooden
Yeah.
00:27:09
Rodney Gooden
Yeah, I think there'll be plenty of time for Etienne to get minutes over the course of the season.
00:27:11
JD
Yeah.
00:27:12
Rodney Gooden
What I thought was confusing in that Liverpool game, though, was when I didn't see Odegaard playing, I thought, obviously, the shoulder injury means he's not fully fit. So to sub him on later, when it looks like he's not fully fit, I'm thinking, why not take the risk?
00:27:24
Rodney Gooden
Why, you know, take on Marino and give Warnieri his minutes there? In terms of trusting Max Dallman, I thought, well, it's a lot of trust to put in 15-year-old. And he did have a fantastic showing against Leeds.
00:27:31
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:27:33
Rodney Gooden
But I'm thinking this is Liverpool. Maybe you want a bit of more of a seasoned hand. You want a seasoned veteran there.
00:27:38
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yes.
00:27:38
Rodney Gooden
Trossard has done well against Liverpool in the past. I thought, you know, if you're going to put on another winger, maybe you're someone a bit more senior. yeah It would be for me in the pecking order would have been Trossard next if you're taking off Maddowake. And then, of course, you know, you can bring on Ethan if you need to.
00:27:50
Rodney Gooden
But Max, I was surprised.
00:27:51
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:27:52
Rodney Gooden
He didn't play badly, but I thought it was a bit of a, it was a large occasion for a 15-year-old to make his debut.
00:27:56
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, of course.
00:27:56
JD
i
00:27:58
Rodney Gooden
Yeah.
00:27:59
JD
I wanted to ask a question because I kept a close eye on this guy.
00:28:00
Global Sports Podcast Network
Gone.
00:28:02
JD
What did you think of Martinelli's performance? Because thought he had a shocker, you know.
00:28:06
Rodney Gooden
Yeah.
00:28:06
JD
i will i wasn i was very disappointed.
00:28:06
Rodney Gooden
Horrible game.
00:28:07
Global Sports Podcast Network
I, yeah, I'm starting to get, I'm actually starting to go into bit of panic mode now with Martinelli.
00:28:09
Rodney Gooden
absolutely horrific game here.
00:28:15
JD
Yeah.
00:28:15
Global Sports Podcast Network
You know, i I'm not um not seeing, I'm not seeing the same player that I saw in 22-23, where he was taking on players, scoring freely.
00:28:22
JD
Yeah.
00:28:22
Rodney Gooden
Hmm.
00:28:26
Global Sports Podcast Network
And I just, I don't know where it's going wrong for him.
00:28:29
Rodney Gooden
Hmm.
00:28:29
JD
Maybe he's just helping him out.
00:28:30
Global Sports Podcast Network
It's not like, it's not like Arteta's changed the set-up. You know, he's been given game time. You know, i think last season was really the season that he should have shown himself because you but you had...
00:28:42
Rodney Gooden
Hmm. Hmm.
00:28:44
Global Sports Podcast Network
um What was it? It was Villa away. You had Trossard throwing his toys out the pram with his goal celebration because, you know, he wasn't getting selected. Well, it's... Yeah, it's... i'm I'm starting to get concerned about Martinelli. And if he doesn't... If we don't see...
00:29:02
Global Sports Podcast Network
any sort of good progression, I'd be very worried come the next come the summer window.
00:29:09
Rodney Gooden
Yeah, I kind of inclined to agree. I think it was a very difficult game for Martinelli too. I think one of the most shocking parts of his entire game was I think it happened around about the 22, 24th minute too.
00:29:18
JD
Yeah. Yeah.
00:29:20
Global Sports Podcast Network
Go on.
00:29:20
Rodney Gooden
He's literally, yeah, you know the moment I'm talking about. He's dribbling.
00:29:23
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yep.
00:29:23
Rodney Gooden
yeah He's clear on a transition. And you see Jokarez running into space. yeah
00:29:28
JD
Oh, what was he doing?
00:29:29
Rodney Gooden
ah
00:29:29
JD
What was he doing?
00:29:29
Global Sports Podcast Network
I was yelling. i was like, I was like, and, and you know what it was?
00:29:31
Rodney Gooden
You see Jokarez. Yeah.
00:29:35
Global Sports Podcast Network
I'm sure I put it on the group chat. I said to you guys, why is Martin Lee so greedy? Like he's got this kind of, I don't know what it is, but this mentality he has.
00:29:40
Rodney Gooden
Yeah.
00:29:43
Rodney Gooden
But was it greed? Because it was almost like he didn't even see him. His head was down.
00:29:46
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah. Yeah.
00:29:47
JD
He didn't see it.
00:29:47
Rodney Gooden
And we saw Martinelli run into the space that Yokores had occupied to the point where even Yokores had to kind of jump back.
00:29:48
JD
I
00:29:54
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:29:54
Rodney Gooden
And then we're thinking, okay, well, he's trusted himself to kind of dribble into space here. Is he going to cut it back? Is he going to cross it into the box? and And we see him one-on-one with Dom Sposly, you know?
00:30:03
JD
i also think as well, I also think this well
00:30:03
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah. ah
00:30:05
Rodney Gooden
And then he dribbles it off the pitch.
00:30:07
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:30:08
Rodney Gooden
It was a shocker.
00:30:09
JD
ah what what I also think as well, when you play with Kai Havertz up front, Havertz doesn't make those runs.
00:30:14
Rodney Gooden
Yeah.
00:30:14
JD
He just doesn't.
00:30:14
Global Sports Podcast Network
No.
00:30:15
JD
So I think he's just not expecting the run. He's just like, oh, Jockridge is there. Oh, what do I do? And you know him when you overthink things and it doesn't work out.
00:30:20
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:30:21
Rodney Gooden
Yeah.
00:30:22
Global Sports Podcast Network
course.
00:30:23
JD
But he's got to do better there. I'm sorry.
00:30:25
Rodney Gooden
He's got to feed the striker in.
00:30:25
JD
He's got
00:30:26
Rodney Gooden
Yeah.
00:30:27
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, definitely.
00:30:28
Rodney Gooden
Hmm.
00:30:29
Global Sports Podcast Network
But guys, we're going to take another quick ad break. um When we come back, I want to talk about certain Gary Neville who has to have his say.
00:30:40
Global Sports Podcast Network
And it has to be... Yeah, already the boys are kind of nodding their head because we I know they know where we're going to go with this. But I want to talk about his comments made after the game. So join us after the break.
00:31:28
Global Sports Podcast Network
Welcome back to this third and final part of the Liverpool review. Boys, i want to go straight into it. Gary Neville, do you remember exactly what his exact comments were at the end of the game?
00:31:41
Rodney Gooden
Give us a refresher.
00:31:42
JD
i think I think he said that Arsenal, when it comes to the big six, we we we disappear in games and we've got one of the best records for the bit big big six in the last couple of seasons.
00:31:47
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:31:51
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yes. So...
00:31:53
JD
And I think he got slaughtered on Twitter because literally when he said it, like 10 minutes afterwards, there was loads of comments on Twitter.
00:31:55
Rodney Gooden
Yeah.
00:31:58
Rodney Gooden
Unbelievable. Because it only got broken that game.
00:32:01
JD
I'd say, yeah, I don't know...
00:32:01
Global Sports Podcast Network
Literally, literally. And in my head, I kind of sat there and thought to myself, why? Why would you come out with that statement? Have you not seen Arsenal's record?
00:32:13
Global Sports Podcast Network
lot Have you been living under a rock? Have you not seen Arsenal's record against the big six?
00:32:14
Rodney Gooden
yeah yeah
00:32:18
JD
I think it's a thing where, you know, lot of these pundits, they they have jab at Arsenal. I don't know why. but They're not good enough. Or, you know, when it comes to the big games, they they disappear.
00:32:29
Global Sports Podcast Network
You don't hear it about any other club, do you?
00:32:30
JD
And it's one of the ones...
00:32:32
Global Sports Podcast Network
You don't hear it about any other any of the other big six, do you?
00:32:33
Rodney Gooden
that sure yeah yet about air
00:32:34
JD
I used to get it when, you know, when we were finishing fifth and sixth and we were terrible times.
00:32:38
Global Sports Podcast Network
ya Yeah, yeah.
00:32:39
JD
And, yeah, and even the times when we will were fighting for the league and we just, we shouldn't be fighting for the league.
00:32:40
Global Sports Podcast Network
Oh, gosh.
Gary Neville's Comments and Arsenal's Big Six Performance
00:32:46
JD
But this is a different Arsenal team. You know, I think on their day, they can go toe-to-toe with one of the the best the best teams.
00:32:48
Global Sports Podcast Network
Mm, great.
00:32:52
JD
they've We've seen it last season. We've seen it consistently. all right, they've not won anything from it. But I don't know. it's I just feel like we have this stigma against us a little bit.
00:33:02
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, I mean, Rodney, what were your thoughts on his comments at the end of the game?
00:33:07
Rodney Gooden
I think think ridiculous, but I also never really trust what the man says. you know He'll back us to be favourites to win the Premier League every season without fail. And then the moment there's a first loss, you know he'll come in there and absolutely rip us to pieces.
00:33:20
Rodney Gooden
like, what's going on here?
00:33:20
Global Sports Podcast Network
Thank you.
00:33:21
Rodney Gooden
ah and You know, this sort of dialogue that we show no ambition, that we disappear against the big six is utterly ridiculous. You know, even in those moments in this game where we could have turned that around. Slott himself said that if we play this 10 times, right, eight versions of this game are a draw.
00:33:35
Rodney Gooden
Arsenal win one, Liverpool win one as well. Is that the kind of, you know, praise from a rival manager from a team that's known to disappear but in big games?
00:33:38
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:33:44
Global Sports Podcast Network
Exactly.
00:33:45
JD
Thank you.
00:33:45
Rodney Gooden
It's utterly ridiculous.
00:33:46
Rodney Gooden
You know, I start to wonder if, you know, and this is my personal theory, but If you look at him, he's, again, former Man United player. Man United had their greatest manager as well, Ferguson. right He's left.
00:33:57
Rodney Gooden
We had one of our greatest managers in Arsene Wenger too. Both of those managers have since left the club.
00:33:59
Global Sports Podcast Network
Mm-hmm.
00:34:02
Rodney Gooden
New managers have come in. The team's performances have dropped. Under Arteta, Arsenal are kind of current are coming back to, looks like, winning ways. Getting closer and closer each way into winning that. Is it a little bit of jealousy?
00:34:13
Rodney Gooden
We don't know. You know you look at Man United in their position right now. And is it that you would prefer this sort of Arteta rebuild? you know to be happening to your own club and so when it doesn't happen you know there's all of this criticism know because maybe you feel yeah no yeah yeah
00:34:24
JD
that kind of stupid to buy they' was kind of stupid it.
00:34:26
Global Sports Podcast Network
Go on.
00:34:28
JD
if um Let me ask you guys a question.
00:34:30
Global Sports Podcast Network
Go on.
00:34:30
JD
The favourites to win the league, right, in my opinion, and most people's opinion, is Liverpool, right?
00:34:36
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:34:37
JD
Why is it Arsenal have to win the league?
Debating Arteta's Leadership and League Ambitions
00:34:40
JD
And I'll tell you, it has to win the league. The money is spent when, on paper, Liverpool are favourites. That logic doesn't make any sense.
00:34:46
JD
Right?
00:34:46
Rodney Gooden
yeah exactly
00:34:47
Global Sports Podcast Network
No, it really doesn't. Really doesn't.
00:34:49
JD
You what Why does he have to win it?
00:34:49
Rodney Gooden
Yeah.
00:34:51
JD
i Don't get me wrong. I know he spent the money. He spent quite a lot of money.
00:34:54
JD
But let's be honest, that team needed changing for a long time.
00:34:54
Rodney Gooden
Yeah.
00:34:55
Global Sports Podcast Network
course.
00:34:55
Rodney Gooden
Yeah.
00:34:57
JD
It's been it's been a project.
00:34:59
JD
I think while living with Arteta, he had to compete. I think if he finishes fourth or anything like that, you're not competing for the league. it' ah its a bad It's a bad season. But I don't see he has to win the league.
00:34:59
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah
00:35:08
Rodney Gooden
I agree.
00:35:11
JD
I don't see it. I think if he wins the league, he's done a really good job. A really good job.
00:35:15
Global Sports Podcast Network
definitely i think i think tom yeah
00:35:16
Rodney Gooden
yeah yeah agreed Do you hear this narrative with Chelsea? and Yeah, you hear this narrative with Chelsea?
00:35:21
JD
That's what I'm saying.
00:35:23
JD
It doesn't make me funny.
00:35:23
Rodney Gooden
Like, don't get me wrong.
00:35:24
Rodney Gooden
I think net spend, you know, we might be more than them. But I think overall in terms of just money, because Chelsea are much better at selling players. But overall, Chelsea spend more money than us as well. Do you hear mantras about Mareski needs to win the league in the next season, needs to win this and that?
00:35:34
Global Sports Podcast Network
No.
00:35:35
Rodney Gooden
Like, no, I think it's always a bit difficult. And so it frustrates me when I hear that narrative.
00:35:38
Global Sports Podcast Network
But I think...
00:35:39
Rodney Gooden
Yeah.
00:35:40
Global Sports Podcast Network
ah But unfortunately, I think it's due to the fact that we have gone toe-to-toe with your cities, your Liverpools.
00:35:44
Rodney Gooden
Yeah.
00:35:47
Global Sports Podcast Network
And I think that's where it's kind of really plagued us in a way.
00:35:50
Rodney Gooden
Yeah.
00:35:50
Global Sports Podcast Network
And unfortunately, you know, again, don't... Again, like Rodney and like you've said also, JD, you sit there um Monday Night Football...
00:36:02
Global Sports Podcast Network
saying that you believe that Arsenal are going to be winning the Premier League.
00:36:07
Rodney Gooden
Yeah,
00:36:07
Global Sports Podcast Network
But yet, all of a sudden, now we go to now we go and lose to Liverpool. And also, another thing, we are only three games in the seat. We're only three games in.
00:36:17
Rodney Gooden
yeah it's just started.
00:36:18
JD
Yeah, it's just tired. It's just tired.
00:36:21
Global Sports Podcast Network
And and already, already the, I don't even know what you call it, not even the celebration police, it's the, I don't even know, but
00:36:29
Rodney Gooden
ah That was last season though, but yeah, they exist. yeah
00:36:32
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, oh gosh, that that yeah they will always exist towards Arsenal, won't they?
00:36:36
Rodney Gooden
Oh yeah.
00:36:36
Global Sports Podcast Network
But at the end of the day, we're still very early. It's still very early days.
00:36:40
Global Sports Podcast Network
You know, Liverpool are top of the league by nine points. Arsenal, OK, Arsenal are, what, fourth or something, or or third.
00:36:40
Rodney Gooden
Yeah.
00:36:48
Rodney Gooden
I think we're third, yeah.
00:36:49
Global Sports Podcast Network
Two points behind the leaders.
00:36:51
Global Sports Podcast Network
OK, make it make sense.
00:36:51
Rodney Gooden
Yeah.
00:36:54
Rodney Gooden
Yeah.
00:36:55
JD
You know, we're not far from relegation zone.
00:36:55
Global Sports Podcast Network
really make it make sense.
00:36:57
JD
Okay.
00:36:57
Global Sports Podcast Network
i just don't I just think Gary Neville's comments were really not and necessary and they were not needed.
00:37:03
Rodney Gooden
Yeah.
00:37:04
Global Sports Podcast Network
Because, like you guys have said, before you know before before the weekend's loss, our record against Big Six was pretty much impeccable.
00:37:15
Rodney Gooden
Yeah.
00:37:15
Global Sports Podcast Network
you know we struck a lot of a lot ah fear into these teams.
00:37:16
JD
oh
00:37:20
Global Sports Podcast Network
Bearing in mind, we didn't have a recognised out-and-out striker.
00:37:20
Rodney Gooden
Hmm.
00:37:23
Global Sports Podcast Network
you know relying on Kai Havertz and the players to work around, the players to work with as well. And yet we still were grinding out 1-0 wins and wins at Old Trafford and, you know, Stamford Bridge and at the Emirates and so and all these other places. But yet they don't get spoken about enough.
00:37:41
JD
I do have a quick question as well, though. With the starting line-up, do you think Arteta made the right choice?
00:37:43
Global Sports Podcast Network
Go on.
00:37:48
JD
oh if not, who would you have changed? What would
00:37:50
Global Sports Podcast Network
I'm going to be really honest with you that apparently, I don't know if this was how true this was, but apparently Saliba was carrying an injury into the Liverpool game.
00:37:59
Rodney Gooden
I heard those rumors as well.
00:38:01
Global Sports Podcast Network
And my exact point, my thought behind that was, well, you have players that can easily play as a centre-back.
00:38:14
Global Sports Podcast Network
Why not use them? We can't afford to get injuries. but And the the thing is, the injuries now are really not needed because we're now going into a busy fit period now where we've got pretty much all the cup competitions, obviously barring the FA Cup, to be competing in.
00:38:29
Rodney Gooden
Yeah. Yeah.
00:38:31
Global Sports Podcast Network
um kind of i kind of sat there and questioned it. But at the same time, I understand why Mosquera didn't start because... you're basically pushing a youngster in the deep end of a pool.
00:38:43
Global Sports Podcast Network
you know what I mean?
00:38:44
Rodney Gooden
yeah
00:38:46
Global Sports Podcast Network
So I don't know, but I think starting 11-wise, I think I was quite happy with it.
00:38:53
Global Sports Podcast Network
the The only thing I might have maybe questioned was Marino in Cam. um might I might have maybe gone with Eze. I might have maybe gone with Eze because, you know,
00:38:53
Rodney Gooden
yeah
00:39:01
JD
yes started in that big game like that.
00:39:03
Rodney Gooden
Yeah, it's starting though.
00:39:05
JD
That's a big, that's a big arc.
00:39:05
Rodney Gooden
You sure? Yeah, because I saw the game plan and I thought, look, you see what Mourinho does for Spain as well, you know, when he's a central attacking midfielder, it's little flick-ons, you know, he's not going kind of do an Odegaard at this point, but i said, yeah, it'll be little flick-ons linking up the play too, not to mention he's big, physical, you really want to nullify a lot of Liverpool's transitional attack, and I thought that we did all right at that point.
00:39:11
JD
Yeah.
00:39:12
Global Sports Podcast Network
Oh yeah, absolutely.
00:39:25
Rodney Gooden
I agree, I think Eze should have played more, but I don't know if he should have started, he just became an Arsenal player, it's a brand new system, new position,
00:39:29
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:39:33
JD
Yeah, I agree.
00:39:33
Rodney Gooden
It's quite a lot to go bring all of that into Anfield.
00:39:34
JD
agree
00:39:35
Rodney Gooden
But I do feel that my criticism of Arteta for that game was I think subs should have been made earlier. I agree with the subs that you made.
00:39:40
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah
00:39:41
Rodney Gooden
Maybe one or two questions, but I think when Eze came on, love to see it. He looked absolutely phenomenal when he going one-on-one with Sabozlai. Looked far better than Martinelli did as well.
00:39:47
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:39:49
Rodney Gooden
Absolutely phenomenal. And I just think he should have been given a little bit more time to work his magic. But I do feel the game plan Liverpool being, frustrate them, keep the crowd quiet, and then bring in your game winners in the second half to go and maybe nick it.
00:40:00
Rodney Gooden
I think a little smash and grab is fair. You're up against the Premier League champions, so I think it's a solid game plan.
00:40:06
JD
Yeah, I think he's starting out.
00:40:06
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, of course.
00:40:07
JD
I wouldn't have changed us too much. I kind of like, I didn't mind Marino playing in the camp.
00:40:09
Rodney Gooden
Hmm.
00:40:12
JD
I think the only criticism I would say, like we didn't really make clear chances.
00:40:12
Rodney Gooden
Hmm.
00:40:15
Global Sports Podcast Network
him.
00:40:18
JD
And when we did make chances, we didn't really, you know, take them.
00:40:21
Rodney Gooden
Hmm.
00:40:22
JD
we didn't really need we had another other period in the game where we could really got at liverpool and we didn't we didn't really do that and that's maybe I'm being a bit harsh there is an for but I think periods like that in the game you have to take those chances that that makes it it's like what ah Peter Giudry said you know howard we don't know what what this result means at the of the season it might mean the whole three points it might mean nothing you know so um yeah we i think you just got that' the only of because and I probably would have I don't think I would have played Odegaard in this game I think would have trusted Manieri
00:40:26
Global Sports Podcast Network
course.
00:40:28
Rodney Gooden
Hmm.
00:40:45
Global Sports Podcast Network
um
00:40:45
Rodney Gooden
Yeah,
00:40:54
JD
only because he's carrying a little injury.
00:40:55
Rodney Gooden
agreed. Yeah.
00:40:56
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:40:57
JD
um And I think with Odoca, there's been times I've been a bit frustrated with him where eat he's taking a bit longer to to get get rid of ball a bit. He's taking too many touches that doesn't need to. And he just needs that little creativity just to unlock the door.
00:40:57
Rodney Gooden
agreed
00:41:07
Rodney Gooden
there
00:41:11
JD
Because I feel kind of sorry for him. He's not getting any service.
00:41:15
JD
What is he supposed to do?
00:41:15
Rodney Gooden
Yeah.
00:41:16
Global Sports Podcast Network
No.
00:41:16
JD
i see he's getting slaughtered online, but he could not give me the ball at my feet he could not give me the ball. How am i supposed to go score a goal?
00:41:23
Rodney Gooden
Yeah.
00:41:23
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, exactly.
00:41:24
JD
yeah i You know, the chances when he's had the ball at his feet, the Leeds game, he scored one.
00:41:29
Rodney Gooden
Yeah.
00:41:30
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:41:30
JD
There's one he should have scored.
00:41:30
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:41:31
Rodney Gooden
Yeah,
00:41:32
JD
He took a bit, rushed it. But, you know, you've got to give him chances.
00:41:37
JD
Otherwise, he's not your type of striker that's going to be out on the box and run with it. And even he did score like that. But that's not his gameplay. You can see he's a bit, that's not how he plays.
00:41:37
Rodney Gooden
yeah it's true.
00:41:44
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah
00:41:46
JD
You've got to get to his feet.
00:41:47
Rodney Gooden
Yeah, we need to play to his strengths as well.
00:41:47
JD
Yeah, I think.
00:41:49
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah
00:41:49
Rodney Gooden
And one thing which is interesting is I saw Marino try that.
00:41:49
JD
Yeah, he did.
00:41:52
Rodney Gooden
There's a couple of points in that game where Marino actually did pick out Jokerez and flick onto him as well.
00:41:52
JD
He did. the
00:41:56
Rodney Gooden
I think it's also on the left side where that's not happening. So that's why I'd be more intent to go see an Eze on that left side as well, because I mention this all the time. With Palace, you can see him pick out Mateta as well. I said, right, we have Eze on that left side, cutting in, either taking a shot onto his foot or usually looking for Jokeres and slipping him through, I think, yeah, we'll have a much better player who can do that on a more consistent basis on Eze on the left-hand side than currently that we have with Martinelli.
00:42:06
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yes.
00:42:20
JD
Does he start next game? Does he start next game for you?
00:42:22
Rodney Gooden
Eze starting next game against Forest.
00:42:23
JD
Yeah.
00:42:24
Rodney Gooden
Yeah, um'd be I'd be happy to see that.
00:42:24
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yes.
00:42:25
JD
Yeah.
00:42:25
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:42:26
JD
You not played great you know in a while, you know.
00:42:27
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah
00:42:28
Rodney Gooden
I think for now, yeah, yeah, I would. LAUGHTER
00:42:30
Global Sports Podcast Network
i they Painfully, yes.
00:42:33
Global Sports Podcast Network
But, yeah, I think... ah No, he hasn't played great in a while. But the thing is, though, it's from it's come to a point but it's come to a point, though, for me now where...
00:42:33
Rodney Gooden
Yeah,
00:42:39
Rodney Gooden
yeah this was painful. yeah go
00:42:46
Global Sports Podcast Network
You've had chances. You've actually, like, you've had chances. You've been you been playing consecutive games. It's not like you've played maybe two games and then been benched and then play another game and be benched. You've been playing consistently.
00:43:00
JD
Yeah.
00:43:01
Global Sports Podcast Network
And we're still sadly seeing the same results. So I would be starting as A. i'd be i wouldn't I wouldn't even hesitate. I'd start as A+. plus It's at the Emirates as well. In front of your home crowd, what more could you ask for?
00:43:14
Rodney Gooden
Yeah, true.
00:43:14
JD
You start on the left, you wouldn't play in the cam position as a next game.
00:43:18
Global Sports Podcast Network
ah I feel like...
00:43:18
Rodney Gooden
If you did that, you'd have to, know what, bench Odegaard, right? Or you're having him on the left and you're taking Rice out the team and having Zubimendi play lone six.
00:43:25
JD
United is
00:43:26
Rodney Gooden
See, that's what I mean. Or you want to put Rice at six and then have Eze left eight, Odegaard right eight.
00:43:27
JD
you know
00:43:31
Rodney Gooden
You know that?
00:43:31
JD
this this What I like about this, there's options now.
00:43:34
Rodney Gooden
Yeah, it's true.
00:43:35
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, that's exactly.
00:43:35
JD
it excuse get better
00:43:37
Rodney Gooden
It's exciting.
00:43:38
Global Sports Podcast Network
Exactly that. Exactly that. But guys, that is it for today. Have you liked what we've had to say? If so, we'd love to hear your thoughts on social media. Make sure to go and show us some love and some support by subscribing to the GSPN Network for all things Premier League, WSL, Serie World Cup and more.
00:43:56
Global Sports Podcast Network
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