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Episode 026 - The Mighty Hammers Fell Ten Hag's Man United!
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Having beaten Man United 2-1, Tom and Jacob discuss the events of the game. With late controversy leading to a nail-biting 12 minutes of added time and a subsequent manager sacking, this episode is an exciting one!
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Transcript
Introduction and Recent Victory
00:00:09
Global Sports Podcast Network
Hello, guys, and welcome back to another episode of the Daily GSPM West End podcast. I'm joined by Jacob. Say hello, mate.
00:00:15
Jacob
Hello, how are you doing?
00:00:18
Global Sports Podcast Network
I am doing amazingly, mate. What a game over the weekend. Obviously, everyone listening to this, I would assume, has seen the result 2-1 against Man United. What are your first overall thoughts after kind of the dust has settled?
Halftime Transformations
00:00:32
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We won. How do you feel?
00:00:34
Jacob
um I'm obviously delighted about the result. um Our first half performance left a lot to be desired. um But, you know, if if we'd played the whole game like we did the first half, they should have definitely won the game.
00:00:52
Jacob
um And the subs he made at halftime really changed the game completely. We looked like a completely different team and we came back out and started making chances and just working harder. And yeah, it's a bit of a weird one. um I feel like he probably should have started the game with the but the second half team, really. um And yeah,
00:01:23
Jacob
whatever he did at halftime just basically worked and we nicked it at the end.
First Half Struggles
00:01:30
Global Sports Podcast Network
Okay, so well let's go back to the first half. Didn't start amazingly. Tell me how you thought the first half played out and how you think it changed into the second half.
00:01:42
Jacob
um So I think that we were all a bit surprised with the with the choice of the starting 11. Um, don't think there was quite enough pace, um, in the team, a lot of midfielders, you know, with Solaire, um, Rodriguez, Paquetta,
00:02:07
Jacob
you know all in there um it felt a little bit like we didn't know where we were going to get you know score goals from and it was just flat and we didn't show any signs of any promising attacks at all and And yeah, they they were all over us.
Recurring Issues and Player Analysis
00:02:32
Jacob
It was only really thanks to Fabiansky and the fact that they couldn't take their chances in the first half that we had a chance you know to get a result. So yeah, what do you what do you think about our first half?
00:02:47
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah it was just poor i think the one thing that stood out to me the most was the amount of misplaced passes it seemed like i can i can remember i saw kilman do a really poor pass i saw it from piqueta and it's
00:02:50
Jacob
Yeah.
00:03:03
Global Sports Podcast Network
It seems like we've we've got this thing where we just start so poorly. I don't know where it comes from, whether it's some sort of mentality issue or but something else that we we don't know about. it just It doesn't really ever seem like we come out of the gates, raring to go.
00:03:17
Global Sports Podcast Network
It seems like we have to warm into games, which in the Premier League you can't really afford to do. And I think we were lucky to still be at a level pegging in the first half because so Man United were definitely the better team.
00:03:23
Jacob
Mm hmm.
00:03:29
Global Sports Podcast Network
um And it is just alarming that we do continue to start poorly, um especially with players like like I mentioned, like Kilman making misplaced
Impact of Substitutions
00:03:40
Global Sports Podcast Network
passes. It's not really what you expect from What we've seen of him so far at West Ham, he up until now has showed real confidence and quality, but in that first half, it wasn't his best and it not singling him out, you know, specifically saying it was a lot worse than everyone else. I think everyone was pretty poor, to be honest. um It was just a lacklustre. The same thing about Paquetta, it just wasn't great. and then
00:04:04
Global Sports Podcast Network
you know, as we transition into the second half, like you mentioned before, the the substitutions that we made were really, really effective at influencing the game. I think the the question marks over the starting 11. Yeah, he could have started players, but I think the fact that they he brought them on at what felt like quite a good time in the game, he brought them in when they had opportunities still to make an impact and then you know, all of the the subs that were made made a ah really positive impact. I think I think Sucek brought some real physicality. And I think it's just a Premier League experience, you know, with ah the the field that we started with, it's not massively experienced in the prem. You know, we've got two people that haven't played in the prem before, and one that's, you know, not been there for a huge amount
Fabianski's Role and Competition
00:04:51
Global Sports Podcast Network
of time. So I think bringing his sort of the sort of leadership that he brings is more of a
00:04:59
Global Sports Podcast Network
how he plays is a form of leadership. Instead of being really commune-like, it doesn't seem to communicate any more than anyone else. It's just he seems to pull us through in the way that he's contributed with goals and just how, I think, used he is to playing and in the Premier League. I think he's really good. And I also think that when you're talking about how Fabianski was instrumental in us getting this win, it's so on the money because We've really put a lot of faith in Ariola and then he's been taken out for whatever reason, whether it's to do with performances, you kind of understand it when he's conceded four goals and we've capitulated in the way that we did in the last game. But he he just brings that experience and the the class that just doesn't seem to disappear.
00:05:46
Global Sports Podcast Network
And it's so so good that we can rely on our number two to come in and put a performance like that out because he he was amazing. And some some of his saves were astonishing, to be honest.
00:05:58
Jacob
Yeah, so i I was very surprised to see Fabianzky in the starting 11. I'm not sure what the reason behind that was, whether Ariolos had picked up a knock or whether it was purely a tactical thing, whether he felt more confident having Fabianzky in there for that specific game or maybe it's just off the back of bad performances, um which I don't really think Ariola's had per se. I don't think he's you know not been good, um but maybe he thought
00:06:39
Jacob
just a switch would be good for us. um You know, someone with experience on the pitch. that's Yeah, like Ariola's got experience, but compared to Fabianski, who's got so much Premier League experience, um he's a great backup to have. And he was excellent, one of our best players on the day and got one of the highest ratings of everyone that was out there and yeah it'll be interesting to see if he stays in for the next game or if he'll revert back to ariota i don't know what you think
00:07:14
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, I think either way, I'm not terribly unhappy, to be honest. you know if you Any position on the pitch, if you have a sort of performance like that, you know like you say, the the second best player on the pitch by the stats wise,
00:07:28
Global Sports Podcast Network
I think you there is definitely an argument that he should continue. and And either way, I'm fine with it, to be honest. you know We've had so much good football from Mariola, so if it's a chance to you know maybe make him fight for his position a little bit more, I think it can only benefit the squad as a whole. you know We've got people challenging for positions, so so
Game Analysis: A Tale of Two Halves
00:07:50
Global Sports Podcast Network
that's all good. Okay, we're gonna go to the the first outbreak of the day, and then when we get back, we'll talk about the second half.
00:08:19
Global Sports Podcast Network
So I think the way that I describe the game as a whole is definitely a game of two halves. I think that second half of football is basically everything that we like about Premier League football. It was entertaining, that was drama.
00:08:35
Global Sports Podcast Network
It was like, obviously not as a neutral. The fact that West Ham won means that I'm probably slightly more affectionately looking at the game. I don't think Man United fans would probably be as happy about how it went, but I'm sure for neutral, it must have been a brilliant watch. um So let's go on to the first goal, Somerville.
00:08:54
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We thought he was going to start with Kudas getting a what we think is a three game ban. We thought it was the time for some of you to come in, but instead he decided to go with Paquetta on the left, which I don't think really worked very well. I prefer Paquetta down the middle. He has more opportunity to influence the game. But I think especially, you know, I've mentioned it previously in other podcasts, all the stuff that's going on with him at the moment, I think.
00:09:17
Global Sports Podcast Network
It was kind of understandable that he didn't play his best football. And then some of it was come in and he was amazing. He was so good in that game. How how do you feel about some of them in this game?
00:09:27
Jacob
Yeah, I think he he definitely has earned his place in the next game for sure. um The impact he made when he came on, he he had that similar kudos effect where you get excited when he gets the ball. um Similarly to Bowen, you know, they they just make things happen and not having kudos is obviously the huge boots to fill for that for that role and you know in years gone by we would be in a in a bad position but
00:10:07
Jacob
When we've got someone like him to call on when Kudis isn't around, um yeah, it's it's really
Player Performances and Strategic Decisions
00:10:14
Jacob
exciting. And I think he he definitely deserves to play in the next game. I'm sure Lopategi is going to have a hard time not starting him after that. um And I think as well,
00:10:28
Jacob
Danny Ings is somebody that needs to be mentioned because once again he's come on and he's provided, you know, he's created the chance for Somerville and I'm not not saying that Antonio made no impact whatsoever but it was Danny Ings again so I think he's he's got another difficult decision of who starts there. um Because realistically, I think Ings is a someone who should start and Antonio should be more of an impact player. But as we've seen, it it hasn't panned out like that. um
00:11:12
Jacob
I think Ings just looked hungry, really, just to stake is stake his claim, really. But yeah, definitely definitely could see him in the next starting 11.
00:11:25
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, I think the Danny Ings praise is really fair because he he seems to have the bit between his teeth every time he comes on. He looks he always looks motivated and I'm really happy that he gets the goal contribution because he definitely deserves it. and i'm I'm glad that you brought him. ah I was going to bring him up as well. But yeah, I'm really glad that you didn't. I think it's just good. You just want people in the squad to do well. you know And if they're not getting the minutes, it must be frustrating for them as players. you know They always want to play. So really happy that you got involved in the goals. And I also want to mention the fact that it's so heavily Jared Bowen as well to make that goal. like
00:12:02
Global Sports Podcast Network
it yeah he's ah He's got three goals and two assists this season, which on the face of it in nine games is it's good form, but it's not you know amazing. I think the thing that the stats don't tell you is how much he influences basically every goal.
00:12:17
Jacob
Yeah.
00:12:17
Global Sports Podcast Network
Like he is so heavily involved in everything that we create.
00:12:22
Global Sports Podcast Network
So yeah, just a shout out to him. He got on a goal today, which is obviously amazing, but his actual impact on what we created in an offensive kind of manner is always so much more than what the stats show.
00:12:34
Global Sports Podcast Network
So so yeah, shout out to him like normal. I also want to give a shout out to Aaron Wambasaka. I thought he was amazing in this game.
00:12:42
Jacob
Yeah, I agree.
00:12:42
Global Sports Podcast Network
I think it's kind of, you know, if you're playing against your old team, you're going to have to bring it because, you know, it's familiar faces and it's, You have to kind of prove a point to make it seem like they made the wrong decision by selling you. And he was just immense. I thought the way, like his attacking threat and his ability to beat a man, he' been it was amazing in that game. He was so creative and in the way that he attacked. And then the same thing defensively, like he's impossible to get past. And he was always getting on the end of
00:13:15
Global Sports Podcast Network
people were trying to play like slicing through balls through the defense. He was always there sliding in the way to block that from getting through. And his one on one defending is amazing. And so, yeah, i'm I'm really happy for him as well.
00:13:27
Global Sports Podcast Network
And he's someone that's definitely improved our defense, which, you know, it's it's always been an area where we've kind of struggled in this season. Obviously, we have as well.
00:13:37
Global Sports Podcast Network
But this this game, he was really good, really strong. So
Wambasaka's Impact and Comparisons
00:13:41
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I'm
00:13:41
Jacob
Yeah, he he definitely brought out some of those, you know, crazy slide tackles that he does um in really risky areas, some of them as well towards the end when he was doing it in the box and just sort of just scooping the ball away, basically.
00:13:42
Global Sports Podcast Network
when
00:14:02
Jacob
And I think he's one of the best at that in the league and you know it just highlights the price that we got him for um and the effect he's already having we've done we've done really well there and i think probably man you united are feeling a little bit sad to see how well he played in that game um because he just looked assured and he looked calm and composed and reliable so yeah a great performance from him as well i think we've basically covered most of the the best players of that game i think any that we've missed
00:14:44
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, I think so. and The one thing that gets me is, is what you know was Dallow or Masraui, did they perform better than he did in that game? And are they really much of an upgrade on him as a player?
00:14:59
Global Sports Podcast Network
you know it When you you watch someone like that play against their old team and they perform better than the people they got to replace them, or the players that they have to replace them, it really makes you question the ah kind of leadership structure and the the choices to sell that player in the first place. Because I really don't think that Maserawi is an upgrade on Aranwan Pasaka, to be honest. ah I don't know what you think, and I don't know what Man United fans think, but from the outside point of view, and especially in that game,
00:15:27
Global Sports Podcast Network
he was performing so much better than either of them. So the fact they let him go so easily is is really confusing to me.
Ten Hag's Dismissal and Man United's Challenges
00:15:34
Jacob
Yeah, I wouldn't particularly say there is a, Maserawi on Wampusaka is a huge upgrade. I don't know whether, I mean, it's it's kind of irrelevant now, because we've, in the last sort of couple of hours, we've found that Tenhag has lost his job. And maybe he was more suited to Tenharg's style of play and obviously knew him well working at Ajax and that seemed to be basically the only players he would get would be Dutch or he'd manage them basically other than a few exceptions but
00:16:23
Jacob
yeah it kind of seems irrelevant now so yeah I mean I think Mazzrari is a good player I don't think he's a huge upgrade on Wambasaka if at all I don't think that don't know really I think the price tag I can't remember how much they spent for him but it was definitely more than 15 mil so um it does seem a little bit like they've not really improved. So um I mean, i I don't mind. I'm more than happy. And yeah, we've we've got another great player.
00:16:58
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, definitely. Okay, right. So you've just mentioned the ten-hag sacking. um The mighty hammers have cost Eric Tanhage his job. It's it' crazy how, you know, before the game you do so much analysis and then there's so many different outcomes and we've managed to topple Man United and i I think it's a deserved win, to be honest. Man United were pretty poor. They made some good chances but They didn't capitalize on them any and anywhere near as effectively as they did. And and we were we were able to. So, you know, you you look at the game for how it went. And I think we were probably deserved winners. Amani and I were just poor, to be honest. I think there's so many players in their squad that seem to just kind of, they get carried through games and they don't make an impact. Like Marcus Rashford, he was completely non-existent the whole game. I barely even heard his name on the Coventry, you know. so
00:17:51
Global Sports Podcast Network
i'm I'm just glad that we have been the ones that have come out on top, I think, especially when you've got two managers that are so under pressure. If we'd lost this game, it just adds to the negative vibe around the club. So really positive result. How do you feel about Ten Hard going? Do you think it was the right decision after the game?
00:18:11
Jacob
um I think maybe that's that's a really difficult one um because a lot of what went wrong in that game really cannot be put down to him. um They had chances, they didn't take them and I don't think there's a huge amount more he could have done to to change that. That must have just been the nail in the coffin really just to say look you've had enough chances now and basically, you know, we need to we need to go in another direction. So yeah, I think a lot of people were saying, oh, I don't think that they're going to let him go at this point after him being around for this long and having worse periods than this and all this stuff. But it does to me feel a bit like weird timing.
Commentary Bias and Penalty Decisions
00:19:06
Jacob
Um, after spending that amount of time with a club and then, you know, sort of just into a new season, it is odd. Um, he's made some decent signings, you know, like DeLitt, who I think is really good and probably one of the best defenders in the league now, you know, with people like Saliva van Dyck.
00:19:31
Jacob
Gabrielle I'd put him probably up there with them and Now he's gone um and it'll be that Mr. Roy as interim um and Be very interested to see who goes there next people people saying about possibly Southgate um which would be very interesting um But yeah, I'm just glad it it's not the other way around because it quite easily could have been if we'd um Followed the same um
00:20:02
Jacob
trajectory is them. um And yeah, Lopategi could be the one out of a job at the moment.
00:20:09
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, definitely. i think I think that's the scary part about football is the, you know, the the small margins that change everything. And if the, if the score was reversed, like there probably is a possibility that they might just pull the plug on the potato. So, so yeah, I'm happy that it went in our favor. And I think with regards to the, the 10 hug sacking, it's.
00:20:29
Global Sports Podcast Network
you understand why they've done it because when you think about Man United you don't think about you know the the way that the way that they played in this game isn't how you feel Man United should play and you know that their recent performances have been so underwhelming and you you understand it from a kind of more broad point of view but when you you then get into the specifics of okay so who's going to replace them where does that leave the squad you have to now find a manager who who fits the style and likes the players which you'd assume they have those ideas and they've already had conversations with people if they've pulled the trigger so liberally, you'd you'd assume they have pretty good plans in place. But yeah, where that leads them for the rest of the season, I don't know, it's it's a tough one. um Okay, we're gonna go to our second advert. And when we get back, I want to discuss the ah final 10 or 15, maybe 20, if you're gonna include the added time of that game, because it was quite controversial.
00:21:34
Global Sports Podcast Network
you
00:21:47
Global Sports Podcast Network
Okay, so before we get into the actual specifics of you know penalty talk, all of that, I just want to talk about the commentary for that game. It is unbelievable how biased the commentators were towards Man you United in this game. It's so frustrating. You're you're watching the game and it it seems like every single decision, if it's for West Ham, they go, oh, I'm not sure about that this season. I'm not sure about this decision. And then every decision that goes against Man United, they go, oh, I wouldn't have done that. I wouldn't do this. I wouldn't do that. and it's
00:22:21
Global Sports Podcast Network
It's so frustrating because it's like, why have they got a commentary team that isn't being completely unbiased? It's, I don't know. I don't know. Maybe it's because I'm from a less standpoint of view. I just, it really frustrated me. It seems like there's always so much more emphasis put on the bigger teams and their other smaller teams. And this, like, this game is a perfect example. And then when you go to the the decision for the penalty, they're they're talking about the decision and they're saying, Oh, I don't know if it's a penalty. It's like, well,
00:22:51
Global Sports Podcast Network
surely you can understand why it is given. that There's one thing saying, oh I don't know if it is, but the acknowledgement that after actually looking at it, you can see that the lick does kick Danny Ying's in the shin, and that is a foul, and if that's anywhere else on the pitch,
00:23:09
Global Sports Podcast Network
that's given us a free kick. And I understand the argument that, oh, is it a clear and obvious decision? No. But when you look at other decisions that have been made by VAR, they also haven't been clear and obvious. So the fact that it did play out this way, it's played out like this way before. And when you actually look at the specific footage of the incident,
00:23:30
Global Sports Podcast Network
The lift kicks Ings in the shin. You can, you can see the the contact point and then Ings his leg goes backwards. Then when he's falling down, the ball comes up and hits his arms and they're all going, oh, it's a, you know, it's a handball.
00:23:42
Global Sports Podcast Network
It's a handball as well. It's like, well, surely the, the actual foul is the first thing that happens. And then anything that happens subsequently, isn't his fault if he's been kicked and then he's going over.
00:23:53
Global Sports Podcast Network
Do you know what I mean?
00:23:54
Jacob
Yeah. Yeah. I mean, with the with the handball thing, you know, that becomes really irrelevant after, you know, they see it as a foul or not. So if they see it as a foul, the handball is irrelevant. Whereas if, you know, actually in game, if they don't think Danny Ings has been fouled and he handballs it, the ref gives handball and then they get a free kick. But the Obviously it is completely going to be opinion based at the end of the day. There's no way for us to say that, you know, had that have been the other way around, we wouldn't feel a little bit hard done by, but you just kind of have to accept it. And it went in our favor and there was contact and
00:24:48
Jacob
you know, it was obvious contact as well. It wasn't like a, you know, a slight nick. It was obvious contact and, you know, they had other chances to take something from the game and they didn't take them. So I think a lot of that frustration that's being, you know, used against the penalty is actually more at the fact that they had chances which they didn't take And they were hanging on. And then to concede the penalty at the end meant they walked away with absolutely nothing at all. And, you know, they'd been in the driver's seat for the whole of the first half and, you know, some of the second half as well, um, when we became much more evenly matched. And yeah, I yeah i just think that every team has
00:25:45
Jacob
um, discrepancies with the, with the VAR and, you know, likes to moan about it, but it sometimes it goes in your favor. Sometimes it doesn't. And I think if that had been Man United that got that one, I would have, I would have, yeah, I'd have been slightly annoyed, but I would have said, you know what, fair enough.
00:26:06
Jacob
You shouldn't be doing silly things like that in the box in the first place and, you know, just try and move on from it.
Player Discipline and Game Conduct
00:26:12
Jacob
We've had stuff like that in the past where we've felt hard done by, but, um, Luckily it, something's actually gone in our favor and the second half performance really won the game for us. So yeah, very pleased.
00:26:34
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, I agree. And I think the yeah the the way you're talking about the ah whole VAR controversy that continues to happen kind of week after week, it's generally been better this season. But I think the the main point with this specific situation is the correct outcome was achieved in the end.
00:26:44
Jacob
Yeah.
00:26:53
Global Sports Podcast Network
Like obviously the conversation about, like I mentioned before with, Oh, is it a clear and obvious error? Like, yeah, there's a conversation to be had there. and And what, what, how do you define a clear and obvious error? That then becomes a whole nother conversation, but.
00:27:05
Global Sports Podcast Network
It is a foul in the box, which is a penalty.
00:27:06
Jacob
Hmm.
00:27:09
Global Sports Podcast Network
So people saying that, oh, you know, man, you're not, I'd have been robbed. that We've been gifted a pen. Like that's just not the case. I don't know how you can see it in any other way because in the footage you can clearly see that Danny Ings is kicked by the lift.
00:27:21
Global Sports Podcast Network
And then we get given a penalty for that because you're not allowed to just kick someone in the shin anywhere on the pitch, let alone in the box. So, so yeah, it's, it's frustrating that we've kind of the the win from Man United fans perspective is being tarnished and it's they they it's playing out as if we didn't beat them fairly, which I think we did, to be honest. And the other thing that really frustrates me was the reaction of the players to the whole VAR penalty decision. They were like petulant children. It's so frustrating. I wish the refs had more
00:27:57
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motivation to take control of those sort of situations because it it goes to VAR and there's just man united players everywhere just circling referees shouting and flailing their arms like absolute children and it's it's embarrassing and and
00:28:11
Jacob
Yeah, I think a lot of that purely comes, fraught look i'm I'm not trying to defend their players or say, you know, they acted exactly how they should have, but I think just a lot of that comes from the the frustration of how they performed.
00:28:12
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um
00:28:30
Jacob
Again, I think a lot of it is purely down to the fact that they had not taking their chances and they were about to walk away with nothing at all because they, you know, when Jarrah Bowen takes a penalty, you he scores nine out of 10. So, you know, they're literally clinging on. Maybe they're thinking about, are we going to have a manager tomorrow? You know, um and these are the sort of things, if you can gain any kind of advantage,
00:29:05
Jacob
If the players think they can, um, speak to the ref and try and persuade him against it, they're gonna, they're gonna do that. But obviously it's not really how it works. And it does make you look, um, you know, just not disciplined and it's not a good look, but yeah, it all comes from frustration. I think maybe.
00:29:34
Jacob
some of their players are like that anyway and very argumentative and don't like things going against them and it was just a just a bad situation for them to end up in really and through their own actions really through their lack of clinicalness
00:29:58
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah it's i just find it so frustrating how these games aren't being controlled by the officials just better you know there's there's no reason for a situation like that to descend into people just like swarming the referee and complaining and like berating all the officials like that isn't the way that the games should be run there should be respect for the officials there should be respect for the decisions and obviously getting frustrated and you know the passion of the game and the heat of the moment you completely understand but
00:30:36
Global Sports Podcast Network
at what point do you decide no that's too much the decision is being made leave me alone let me make this decision for myself and then from here we will move forwards and whatever decision is made is final you know i think that's what frustrates me more um and it's you know it's the same thing if we're stand players we're doing it i would say the same thing you know i think piquetta is
00:30:49
Jacob
Yep.
00:30:58
Global Sports Podcast Network
someone who has the tendency to act in that way he you know sometimes he will dive and sometimes he'll make a meal of things and sometimes he'll protest and he gets quite easy yellow cards and it it's just not what you want from your club and you you think about a club like Man United they're supposed to be like you know historically the biggest club in the country and they're like their heritage and their legacy is something that is worldwide. So why are they, you know, why are their players acting in in such a petulant way on the pitch?
Referee Decisions and Fairness
00:31:31
Global Sports Podcast Network
It's just really confusing to me. um And the the final thing I want to go on to about this game is the added time. So 12 minutes of added time, it seems like a lot to me, but OK, fair enough.
00:31:43
Global Sports Podcast Network
um but then the fact that we get to the the 12th minute of added time and the whistle doesn't go and then we get to the 13th minute and it doesn't go and it's just before we get to the 14th minute of added time that the referee blows the whistle so it's again that's another thing that frustrates me it's just why why give 12 minutes of added time to then play an extra minute and a half, two minutes.
00:32:08
Global Sports Podcast Network
It it doesn't make any sense. like I just don't understand why that happens. like ah I get there were some minor delays in play in extra time, but there was not two minutes where we weren't playing.
00:32:20
Global Sports Podcast Network
is It's ridiculous, you know?
00:32:21
Jacob
Yeah I think that they're they're in the sort of situation now where they feel as if they have to make up for every single second that's missed during the game so that's I think that's just why we see these ridiculous lengths of um added time at the end and at least in that way they can then say well you know we played the whole the whole entirety of the 90 minutes without missing a single second because then they'll always have the argument of you know oh we missed a minute whilst that player was getting treatment and we could have scored during that time so it is yeah it is really frustrating especially when you're
00:33:17
Jacob
clinging on and you've played for over a hundred minutes already um and it becomes like an injury concern for certain players you know that have been running non-stop for the whole game um and it is frustrating but that is quite a um abnormal amount of stoppage time, usually there'd be sort of three, four minutes.
00:33:48
Jacob
um And yeah, that just felt forever really.
00:33:48
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah but it's like for me it's not it's not the amount of added time like i i understand it it seems like a lot but that's fine it's just why are we going over the allotted amount of added time that has already been set by the official that i just don't understand that like where have these extra two minutes come from that's what i'm trying to work out because
00:34:02
Jacob
Yeah. Mm hmm.
00:34:08
Global Sports Podcast Network
I don't know if I'm being cynical or I'm playing the all smaller club game but I don't think if that's Man United in the lead that they get given like two extra minutes and at a time.
00:34:19
Global Sports Podcast Network
I think it's because they've had the penalty against them and the referee is trying to even the game up by giving them more allowances which again just doesn't seem like the way that it should be ref.
00:34:19
Jacob
Yeah.
00:34:30
Global Sports Podcast Network
There was another point where there was two balls on the pitch. they played for about 30 seconds where there was ah another ball on the pitch but i've seen so many times when it's big teams if there's if there's another ball on the pitch they'll instantly blow and tell them to kick it off but they we just played with two balls on the pitch which if you're looking at the actual rules isn't supposed to be allowed so why is the ref not blowing up and telling them to get rid of the other ball and then continuing you know like it's it's nitpicky and it's you know slightly pedantic but
00:34:36
Jacob
Yeah. Mm hmm.
00:34:56
Global Sports Podcast Network
What's the point in having the rules if we're not going to stick to them? If you're going to add added time, play to the amount of added time that you've said, and then blow the whistle when that time is finished.
00:35:03
Jacob
Yeah.
00:35:06
Global Sports Podcast Network
Don't add an extra nearly two minutes on the end of it.
00:35:06
Jacob
Yeah.
00:35:09
Global Sports Podcast Network
And if there's two balls on the pitch, if the rule is you're not allowed to play while there's another ball on the field of play, then don't play. don't just let it play until it peters out and then tell someone to do it. Because if they score, they've then scored while there was two balls on the pitch.
00:35:21
Jacob
Yeah.
00:35:23
Global Sports Podcast Network
And I would say the same if it was, if we scored while there's two balls on the pitch, obviously it benefits me, but it shouldn't happen like that. You know, like rules should be stuck to so much, just with more conviction.
00:35:32
Jacob
yeah
00:35:36
Global Sports Podcast Network
And it's just frustrating. It seems like there's allowances given based on how well or how favorable the decisions have been for a certain team, which just
Celebration and Closing Remarks
00:35:49
Jacob
Yeah. No, I agree. Um, okay.
00:35:49
Global Sports Podcast Network
shouldn't be how is it is at all.
00:35:53
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah. Just really frustrating, basically.
00:35:54
Jacob
Well, go.
00:35:55
Global Sports Podcast Network
But before we end, I've been on a bit of a money rant. What a brilliant game. Really good game.
00:36:02
Jacob
Mm hmm.
00:36:03
Global Sports Podcast Network
Really happy for Lopategi, I think. He's showed that he can make the right decisions, and I'm really happy for so many of the players as well, you know especially the substitutions. Dannyings and Somerville, I think, in particular, they've both played amazingly.
00:36:17
Global Sports Podcast Network
And I loved when Somerville scored, the fact that he went and ran to Kudos, and you know gave him a big hug, and Kudos looked ecstatic for him.
00:36:21
Jacob
Yeah.
00:36:24
Global Sports Podcast Network
So, yeah, really happy that we've got players that are obviously competing for places. but they obviously care about each other and hopefully this can be the start of a ah nurturing, of ah a really tight-knit group because that was a, we had to dig in really hard at the end, you know, everyone was tracking back, people were running their socks off, you know, people like Jared Bowen who plays every minute of every game, basically, you know, he does so much defensively and he was pressuring the whole time, he was putting pressure on their keeper nonstop. So yeah, I'm just really happy and and well done to the boys.
00:36:59
Jacob
Yep, totally agree with that. um More to come, hopefully.
00:37:04
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, hope so.
00:37:06
Jacob
Cool. All right, we're gonna wrap it up now. So thank you all very much for listening to this episode. um Please feel free to rate the podcast five stars.
00:37:17
Jacob
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00:37:40
Jacob
Thank you for listening. Say bye, Tom.
00:37:43
Global Sports Podcast Network
Goodbye, guys.
00:37:44
Jacob
Thank you. See you later.