Ep. 279 – An Unpalatable Case of Prenatal Buyer’s Remorse

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Speaker: This is going to be hard for some people. God does not like the inappropriate jokes. He does not like the crude talking, the coarse jokes, the dialogue with your friends that are not appropriate.

Speaker: God, I believe he does have a sense of humor, but it is a righteous sense of humor. He's funny God. And my friend, you are meant to be set apart.

Speaker: Hey everybody, welcome to another episode of Growing Up Christian. I'm Sam. And I'm Casey. I switched up the way I said it today. I don't normally, I usually say it the same way every time. i don't know if you noticed.

Speaker: It's little variety into things. Yeah, just like the inflection was different. um I don't know. I wonder if i wonder if that was – if other people heard it. ah Dude, we got to – we didn't talk about it. last Last week we had our friend Jillian join us. I had a great time hanging out with her.

Speaker: But we we didn't get into what i I presume people were waiting for me to talk about because –

Speaker: i'm an apologist yeah i spent a lot of time going to bat for graham platner um things aren't looking so good right now for him uh yeah i don't know man uh i'm bummed i'm bummed bombed I thought, ah there's so many different ways that this can go. So for those who don't know, which is probably nobody at this point, because the Fox News and every bullshit media outlet, every everyone everywhere who's been on the Platinum smear campaign, ah they who has been wanting to make a spectacle of him, like you can't go on Facebook without seeing it or Instagram or anything. Yeah, they're dancing on his grave. Yeah, dude, it's everywhere. So I'm sure people know, but he was credibly accused of sexual assault.

Speaker: ah There's some interesting things about the way the accusation ah played out. um Mostly from, it's weird. This one's very weird because this isn't, I mean, at this point, I don't feel like I felt like the right words and right messaging has just was coming from the wrong person now. Like we can't, this is just, we can't, we can't do it. Uh, if like, it wasn't that long ago, it was like three, 2019. Was it?

Speaker: nineteen was it Some of it was recent. 2021, actually. 2021. Yeah. closer then he got married a year or so after that, a year or two after that. so um So Politico dropped the story, and Politico's been getting a little bit of scrutiny, and then the people who are giving him scrutiny are getting scrutinized because we live in hell, and our media apparatuses are trash. But the reason it's...

Speaker: It feels safe to say that he more or less forced someone to have sex with him. um Might never know the detail full details for sure, but basically he's been accused of the woman whose house that he knocked on that was this is part of the original reporting sort of when the original slander pieces came out about him being a bad boyfriend that we talked about, uh, for whatever reason, someone held back some information and it seems like it wasn't, it wasn't the woman. It seems like it was the original like media outlet. Yeah. They, they held onto like basically a golden, uh, you know, a golden bullet.

Speaker: um in that they basically left it at like, he showed up unannounced, he wasn't very nice, blah, blah. Well then, you know, 10 days before they have to decide if he's going to run or he's going to dip and they're going to find someone to replace him, they go, actually, when he Politico goes actually when he ah he showed up at her house and then had sex with her and stayed the night and when when he but they woke up the next morning she was like do you even remember what happened and he's like

Speaker: Yeah, i think I guess. I don't know. It was basically like he showed up blackout drunk. He showed up drunk. He probably doesn't have a good memory of it if he's as blackout drunk as he was reported to be. What what Politico left out was that ah the woman was like, hey,

Speaker: Um, she's told him he, she, they were dating on and off for two years. She was, they were texting. She said, I need a glute massage. And he's like, be right over.

Speaker: and then she responds like, no, actually like, please don't come over. Um, and then he shows up and then he lets himself in and then they,

Speaker: ah allegedly have sex against her will. And now, you know, they've kind of just, the media has been calculating when they're going release this, which whatever, if you're going to calculate, release it in a calculated fashion, I know it's, this just feels like it.

Speaker: the internet conversation is like it's a media hit job and then it's like he's a bad person and it's like i don't know it's possible that both things are true at the same time i think it it i think that's what it is i think that's what's frustrating about it too is that like you're watching all the wrong people use really crappy tactics to time the destruction like it it's It's like controlled demolition of his campaign. Right. Like that what I what I was watching on it, it basically said that, you know, they interviewed like they had like a handful of women who had stuff that they wanted to report about him to the original journalist. I think it was what is the New York Times that originally did the.

Speaker: Yeah, I did the first start. They did the first. piece the The first article, the things that it focused on seemed very flimsy. And it was like, it was not... because the What they chose to write and and to lead with, the the person that they put at the forefront of it, like, her claims against him, like, there it was...

Speaker: I don't remember exactly what they were, but it was more like, well, he was like rude. And, uh, you know, yeah. Yeah. He upset me at times or something. I mean, it was like pretty flimsy stuff in and of itself. They sat on this complaint about him, like barging into this lady's home and ignoring her, you know, like, uh,

Speaker: ignoring her, you know, attempts to tell him no in favor of like this other, they led with this other lady. They mentioned her, but they didn't really like go into detail about what her complaint actually was.

Speaker: So then we go through the the primary process. Then they, they actually like circle back without like the real complaint, the complaint that's like, I don't know why you wouldn't have talked about this when you had this in your back pocket. Right. Unless she wanted him to get through the primary process so that, you know, a handful of delegates can just select the person that they want to run.

Speaker: it's very frustrating because like the media's coverage of it was really bad and, and strategically bad. It's upsetting to see them pull those kinds of tricks, but you know, like it's really upsetting to see a guy who raised money from normal people who took their money and was happy enough to like play the part and and act like, you know, he was this, you know, altruistic guy that was going to go in and fix things and stuff. Meanwhile, he's got this lurking in his past.

Speaker: And yeah even when he when the warning signs were there and he had chance you know a chance to get ahead of it and maybe say, like, oh, I don't know if I'm the person. I don't know. It's just he's a he seems like he's a scumbag.

Speaker: And also the media is a sc you know' full of scumbags. It's just... yeah it's i be i think i'm back violence here yeah yeah yeah what i'm hating about this is ah i do believe that he believes in his message uh i think he's very wondering more and more go go ahead go ahead go ahead yeah I mean, the way that he recalls information and what he's working with ah is like kind of masterclass in how to deflect bad faith questions from the media and recenter the correct positions and talking points. I think i think he's smart.

Speaker: Yeah. I think he had he said all the things that I want a politician to say. um i think that I don't know. I think he buys into it. I think he's a believer in that message. I do. um But what are you going to do?

Speaker: I mean, you can't. So one of the things you're seeing, and this is the backlash of just the degradation of all decorum in our political spheres, listening to Republicans say anything is fucking infuriating because they're like, whoa, I can't believe the Dems would support a guy like this. They always say that they're the moral high ground. It's like, shut the fuck up. You're still supporting someone who's been accused of rape 32 times. You still love the guy who's been accused, who has an entire Wikipedia page to his sexual malfeasance. Allegedly. So like...

Speaker: so like But then the thing that is a bummer is we there are certain things as a lefty that I am ah like pageantry things that our political process or our former political system was ah like the polite society shit. Right. Right.

Speaker: um You know, we'll get into this in just a second, but like Lindsey Graham died and I keep seeing this bullshit on the right being like, all these liberals are so evil making fun of a dead person. It's like, shut the fuck up. Shut the fuck up. I don't want to hear it from you guys. Yeah. yeah paid from People who have died. Trump is a bad person. Trump's been accused of rape.

Speaker: Trump's been convicted of rape. Like, we're just past, like, this. But what anyway, so what i don't like, though, is it is creating a bit of a race to the bottom where there are now a lot of people on the left who go,

Speaker: Whatever. Don't talk to me about moral high ground. You support a rapist. I like what Graham Plattner says. I still want Graham Plattner to win. And I'm like, I get the impulse to want the guy who's saying the things you want to be true to win, but we're talking about an accusation that if true comes with a pretty like like serious prison sentence. Like this isn't just like something to blow off. And it, this isn't something when he had PTSD after coming back from my Iraq, this is pretty, it's recent enough where you, I don't even think you can credibly entertain a conversation about where he was at at the time in his life.

Speaker: When a thing like that happened, happened I also think it might be entirely possible he doesn't believe it based on, like, the reporting of him showing up blackout drunk. Like, it's entirely possible. It doesn't mean he didn't do it. It doesn't mean he shouldn't be held accountable. But if he's... he If you have something like that in your like in your background and you've already been accused of some stuff like from the New York Times and you're like, no, there's nothing else coming out. like I don't have anything else. um

Speaker: He might believe he didn't do it, but I know that they did exchange some text messages afterwards. He might have still felt like, I don't know. I don't know what makes a person continue to run for a position that the, your opponents clearly want to fuck you sideways on with that in your backpack. I don't know. I it's, that's kind of a little red flaggy and concerning for me too. His past is weird too. Like i was listening to, um, subliminal Jihad was talking about this whole deal and they were delving into some of his, like, he's a weird past.

Speaker: And it doesn't mean that he can't be the guy like all of this really like the bottom line with all of this stuff has to be like what what you want. This can't be it. This has to be about principles and not people because people are fallible, you know, and we are already stuck with imperfect people and whatnot. Like the principles have to have to be what everything is based around. So if it's not going to be Plattner, it's got to be the next person. But they got to hold the line on the things that are important. Right. You know,

Speaker: But like Platter kind of comes from this like sort of upper crust family, sort of like wealthy Northeast liberal parents. He's like ah Mr. ah I don't know. he He was like a big anti-war whatever in high school and afterwards and stuff. He goes to George Washington University and then joins the Marines.

Speaker: Yeah. He goes from being like a Mr. Peace guy to joining the Marines in like a combat role. Then he works for Blackwater of all people, you know, like Blackwater. And at at that point, Blackwater is already experienced like the height of their controversy, you know, opening fire on Iraqi civilians and stuff like that.

Speaker: There's a clip from him in like a interview with local news before he was anybody right before he joined Blackwater, where he's wearing a Blackwater hat and he's like, yeah, I got this while I was over in Iraq. I like to wear it to trigger the antiwar people.

Speaker: which is is strange. I don't know. I mean, you have to be insane to want to do this job. So like, what are going to do? I said, how far can you get if you're going nitpick everything weird about somebody's life? But I don't know, man. it just, everything feels so broken and hopeless. Yeah. but Yeah. That's the right way to put it. but then So a friend of mine and I were talking about, like, you know, we got James Tallarico running in Texas, and this guy is, he's cooking.

Speaker: Yeah. And we're like, there's a vibes thing, too, right? Like, I'm sorry if someone was like, I think if someone came out and was like, Tallarico sexually assaulted, I don't think anyone would believe it. Like, I just, I think he's just got that, like, it's, there's like a,

Speaker: He's also got no skeletons in his closet. Nothing's come up. Like if they could have wrecked him on something, they would have like, he's a clean goody two shoes, church boy, like through and through, you know, it comes off in the vibe. So like, I don't know, man, he's got the blameless record. He just, that's the kind of guy you need.

Speaker: We, I mean, we just need, we just need literally anybody to, to be fucking Susan Collins. That's all. That's that's all I care about. Like dude, at this point, these freaking like establishment Democrats like post their heartfelt messages about their friend, Lindsey Graham is just infuriating.

Speaker: o You know, you know, all right. You know what about Lindsey Graham is, Rot in hell. No one cares. Nobody wants to hear about what a nice guy he was. And your cute little story about when you're a freshman senator and you had to go to Lindsey Graham and say, sir, can you help me with my petition?

Speaker: I'm trying to get Mountain Dew water fountains put into the Senate building. Shut up. Shut up. They all are doing it. Jeffries and Cory Booker, like, go screw yourself. No one wants to hear this crap from you.

Speaker: And I get, I'm doing it. And they're like, I know that some people are going to have a problem with me, but you know, One of them, I was at Cory Booker, Hakeem Jeffries. One of them was like, you know, it got after Trump. Like we like basically Lindsay and I weren't really friends anymore. But that does a funny way of making remember the good in people. It's like, no, it doesn't. It doesn't have to. It really doesn't. I don't care through if there is some good and all the good in your life got squeezed. out over the past fucking decade where there was like this this guy this guy loved war he loved blowing up middle easterners he loved killing people in the middle this guy spent his entire life just hoping for another like the war in iraq was over he was like when can we get another fucking war i need another war in the middle east

Speaker: and he's just And then we finally, what? We finally get one. ah The bitch croaks. He doesn't even get to see. that's At least he doesn't get to see this one through. He got to see Iran win. you know At least he saw Iran win before he died. The... the Just listening to him like talk about how we need to equip Israel with the bombs they need to obliterate Gaza, like because it's an existential threat. World War Two World War Two. I'm OK. Look, everybody, everybody likes watching a World War Two movie, OK? And it is fun, like ah distraction content to go back and watch it like the good war, the good war that we won, you know, which is a totally American way of looking at it and stuff, because, I mean, the Russians kind of the Russians kind of beat the Germans. I mean, if we're being honest.

Speaker: it's the world war war the the The mythology of World War II has poisoned the minds of every subsequent generation. It is like the number one propaganda tool in in modern history.

Speaker: And that's not to say that like there's anything... like the The problem with it is like the notion of like the good war, just American might, you know, the like the gloating in victory after the fact when we're the only country left on Earth that's not completely destroyed. Yeah. I mean, it's.

Speaker: I don't know, just listening to somebody like Lindsey Graham constantly bring up, like, well, you know, do you think America thought twice about nuking Japan when when we were trying to stop this, where they were an existential threat? And it's like...

Speaker: Dude, that is not a proud moment in our history. No. Okay? no Nobody should be like- remembers it than everybody else. Oh, yeah. Nobody should be fondly remembering how wonderful it was that we killed millions of civilians, that there was that there was generations of birth defects from the nuclear fallout of what we dropped on those guys. like That's not a proud moment in our history. No.

Speaker: You can argue- Look, here's the thing, too. You can argue that like bad things are necessary at different points in like the country's history and stuff. You can make that argument if that's what you want to do, right? But you can't make the argument that it's moral. It was not moral for us to drop a nuclear bomb on two Japanese cities full of civilians. Right. Yeah. And you can it's also like, you know, ah the the World War. Is anyone picking World War Two as an example for why like might or violence is necessary? Like, look, for for a long time, I was a pacifist and I still I still like when I'm really in my head.

Speaker: and not just thinking about how I feel. i I gravitate towards it in a lot of ways, but I'd probably go with more of like a nonviolence as ah a descriptor for my ethos. But for a while it was like Christian pacifism. And that's just like, you know, everyone goes, whenever you're talking about like your ethics around violence, people are like, well, what about World War II? And what about Hitler? And you're like, I'm glad that every time this comes up out of all of human history, you have one example of a time where I might be stuck on what to say. Like, let's look at how about look at just all the other things that we've done, that the world has done. Like there is,

Speaker: That one is, and it's also, like you said, the myth of like how it worked. It's just like ultimate evil wrapped up in Hitler, which sure, like i'm not don't I don't want people to clip this and be like, Sam doesn't think Hitler was evil. But he's pretty much like, you know, Trump's the new Hitler. Netanyahu is Hitler 2.0. We have other Hitlers. We just like we just like comic book villain, every like Marvel fucking...

Speaker: cinematic universe villain, like Thanos eyes, these people like, cause they're not around to know and see and understand like, and, uh, again, this isn't an attempt to humanize Hitler. It's an attempt to make people like, just to point out that like we've had, we have people alive right now who are actually equally as evil and,

Speaker: And so we should be dealing with them. so Like we should be taking that as seriously. Like, so when you, people want to just go to like world war two examples of why we should fight somebody over something. It's like, look in your own backyard, bitch.

Speaker: Apply that ethic to your own fucking president. If you feel that strongly, because we're on, I mean, dude, Trump's coming out this week to just announce something fucking crazy that I don't know what this place is that was reporting on. It's just like,

Speaker: There's just these rumblings and it's probably something related to election stealing. Cause he's gearing up hard for that. Like we're just fucked. We're, I mean, we're like, we're, we're like staring down the barrel of an actual fucking gun in this country.

Speaker: And people want, and they just like tiptoeing around like, Oh, Lindsey Graham. When, you know, there was a time where he put his arm around my shoulder and he rubbed my arm and he said, it's good to have you here.

Speaker: We need people. Everything. The, everything wrong with american politics personified in one person yeah well let's write him a nice warm fuzzy eulogy oh and and let his sister finish his senate term yeah what's a great idea what the fuck is that how is that even a thing i hate this place how is i didn't even i didn't actually know that that was a possible option like to just who chose that the governor appointed her as the interim senator That's what happens when someone dies. They don't just have a special election.

Speaker: Apparently not. Maybe it has to do with the time left until the election. Maybe that's part of why I know that's why they're pretending Mitch McConnell still are ah alive because they don't want Massey to go for a special election seat.

Speaker: Dude, he's dead as a doornail. So fucking dead. dude They're weak into Bernie's the fuck out of this guy right now. My favorite, my favorite, then what the like the comment that made me laugh out loud actually was... ah There was the picture of him, you know, where his his wife is sitting next to him in the hospital bed. And it's like, it could be an AI picture for sure. Like, he's got this goofy grin on his face. He looks like, he just looks like a, like a turtle.

Speaker: And there's another pod. Oh God, I can't remember the name of the podcast, but another podcast commented on the post rigor tortoise.

Speaker: That's fantastic. Oh, I made me laugh so hard. ah But all right. Yeah. So they need him to live. They need him to be alive through what? August 3rd or else they have to do a special election. And they're worried that like Thomas Massey or somebody similar will ah yeah take the seat.

Speaker: Yeah, that's what they're worried about. That's what I've heard. At least, i you know, who knows? Oh, my God. So it's just nothing. Everything's fucked. Everything's fucked. Everything's fucked. Do you want to hear my local thing?

Speaker: i'm being bombarded right now. April and i are just getting like pounds and pounds of political mail at the moment. Yeah, because and I haven't done a lot of digging into this. I'm kind of solely basing my feelings off of like who is advocating advocating for which position on this.

Speaker: But um in August, there's a vote. In Kansas on whether or not to toss out our, ah like our Supreme Court nomination system and put it, you know, and like basically put Supreme Court justices on the ballot.

Speaker: And so, okay, at first, okay, first instinct is you go, well, I mean, letting normal people pick Supreme Court justices sounds great, right?

Speaker: But then the more you start looking at like who's advocating for that, like for instance, ah you know, the church that sent me the Charlie Kirk ah gospel tract. Yeah.

Speaker: They sent another one this week with some, like, apocalyptic thing and trusting Christ. How's the church sending this shit out? I don't know, dude. And it's it was, like, something about God created marriage as one man, one woman, and, know, we're a male and female at birth. Like, they hit all the, like, little things in their little scripture blurb. And then at the bottom of it, they have this whole section on why, like,

Speaker: We need to vote yes on this ballot initiative to put Supreme Court justices on the ballot. Which makes you immediately go, OK, I don't agree with that.

Speaker: Right. So the opposite end of that, you know, is people like like Planned Parenthood sent us one. This one is for Kansas United for Impartial Courts.

Speaker: And it says, keep billionaire political donors out of our courts. um The Wichita Eagle says, electing Kansas Supreme Court justices would turn them into politicians.

Speaker: ah Vote no to keep politics and money out of Supreme Court justice. Take it it take it from this retired Kansas judge. An independent bench reinforces justice.

Speaker: Justices justly defend merit selection to high court. Because now you have people taking money in order. Yeah, like you have judges taking money for campaign contributions, and then they're supposed to remain impartial. That's bullshit.

Speaker: Yeah, so like right now it's like a a panel 200 state attorneys that make the selection. or are they They put forward like three candidates or something and the governor picks or I don't know. It's something along those lines, but it's like a merit-based...

Speaker: process, right? it says voting no means merit-based selection, independent review process, focus on qualifications. Voters decide whether to keep just judges on the court. So I think we have some sort of means of making them step aside. right And that's also nuts because like your...

Speaker: the people are, you know, ideally a judge isn't as biased as an individual ideally. And so now you have people being like, I don't like that. You voted down something that I think the Bible says is true.

Speaker: And then you, they, so they they just but try to vote them out. Like that. Fuck that. Yeah. It says voting yes means judges spend their time fundraising, partisan elections, outside political spending, just justices pressured to vote based on the wants of billionaire political donors.

Speaker: And, you know, I think part of where this is coming from, and I don't know, I mean, like i said, I haven't read into this a ton, but like, you know, we had a ballot initiative in Kansas two years ago on whether or not to basically we basically voted on a statewide ban on abortion.

Speaker: And overwhelmingly, Kansans voted, no, we don't want that. That's right. And it was like really tricky wording. They really, I mean, dude, they spent...

Speaker: I don't know how many tens of millions, maybe hundreds of millions they spent on lobbying for this legislation. And it failed. It didn't just fail. It failed big. People said no.

Speaker: So this to me seems like their plan now must be to like get ultra conservative Supreme york Court justices elected. Yep.

Speaker: By going to the voters and and relying on the most extreme, you know, idealists to to to be the ones to. get to the the polls for these people. Yeah. So that they can just kind of do a Supreme Court overturn of whatever decision. So I don't know. which i think I'm voting no.

Speaker: Dude, even the fact that that's where we're at, where you have churches trying to shift democracy. Like, dude, I just, I hate this country. I hate it. And saying that now can put you on a fucking watch list. That's, I like how, like, they want to arrest people who say shit like that for treason when we're about to merge our military intelligence with fucking Israel. Fuck you.

Speaker: Fuck you. If you actually vote for that, any single fucking senator, anyone, anyone who votes for that should be immediately taken out in handcuffs and thrown in prison for the rest of their lives. They don't have to vote on the individual or, you know, that individual piece of the Defense Authorization Act. Yeah, what they talked into? Because the Securities Council or whatever, the Wade's commission or whatever it is, they voted down...

Speaker: The notion of like holding that single ordinance is like a singular issue that that congressman would have to vote on. So they don't even have to go on the record now supporting it or not supporting it. They just vote for the Defense Authorization Act.

Speaker: everything just feels like there's such a huge thumb on the scale for every single one of the, like none of these institutions seem like they're anything like what they were designed to be anymore. No. And and nothing's able to survive. Like, like you just think about how,

Speaker: Like, it we really believe that we'd serve like that this country wasn't goingnna couldn't couldn't fall into fascism to a degree, right? And like would trump the way Trump just puts his fucking finger on the scale for everything, like you said, it's like everything's rigged.

Speaker: Like, we're I mean, we're going to deal with, what's it, in Georgia? In Georgia now, he's trying to say that, like, Certain elections don't count. Like it's never stopping. It's never stopping.

Speaker: I know. never going to give up. They're never going to give up until they're dragged out in fucking handcuffs. That's that's what they expect him to do this week, isn't it? Like he's supposed to come out and make some announcement about the 2020 election. Yeah. As if yeah anyone cares at this point.

Speaker: I mean, his his ah his approval ratings by issue across the border below 30 percent, which is the worst any president's ever been in our fucking history. But yeah, it's like George W. Bush at the very end of his term during the financial crisis was like 25 or 27 or something. But he'll he'll get there.

Speaker: He'll get there. ah All right, let's move on. Let's move to something like... Yeah, go. good Can I throw... Okay, I know this isn't the order that we talked about, but can I throw this news story at you? Because I think ah this one, it's it hits on some of the themes that we're talking about here. Yes. Yeah. Switch up, man.

Speaker: I think... ah I feel like all you... all you lives in the audience i think you're gonna be torn to shreds by this one okay dude i do real quick i want to point out how much i like that dude when we started this podcast you were so much further right now but further right than you are now yeah like i think you were always kind of who you are now but i think you still had some of like you You still, you would be, you had some like, I don't know. they I don't think they'll get away with the worst shit they want to do because our country's designed to withstand that. Like, remember you were kind of like, ah RFK doesn't seem so bad. And like, I don't know. like No, I don't remember that. You, i knew that was pre-October 7th. Okay.

Speaker: ah Yeah. Yeah. There were some things where you were like, it's you were you're on the fence on some things i mean i just think it's so funny because i know you and i don't agree on some things but like when we go off it feels like we're like we're practically aligned on like everything that matters it's like the shift and and but like this is what this is what's happened though because i'm like i mean and my dad don't agree on shit

Speaker: And my dad would still identify as like right leaning. But then we talk and I'm like, are we on the same page? Like everyone's just like, what the fuck is happening? Like we're all losing it. They've muddied the waters so much on like what, I mean, what is a conservative anymore?

Speaker: It's nothing. It's nothing. They don't, nothing about what a conservative was when we were kids applies to anything they do now. No, nothing.

Speaker: And even then, like, even if they did, I wouldn't agree. But like, that's why, like, okay, this is why we've talked about this little bit is like Massey. Massey is the last principled conservative. Yeah, Massey, I think you're wrong about some shit. I think you're definitely wrong about lots of shit.

Speaker: But where it counts right now, we're on the same fucking team. you're the He's the only conservative I could look in the eyes and shake their hand and respect as a human being.

Speaker: Yeah, i I like him. I think, ah you know, I'm sure if we if he had to stand up there and on the debate stage against like Ro Khanna, the differences would show. But, you know, sometimes maybe that's what's great about America, right, is that we don't all have to agree on the same course of action. We just have to hate all the same things. Yes.

Speaker: yup Especially now. Especially now. All right. What's your new story? All right. Put on your thinking caps, libs. This is OK.

Speaker: The headline gay couples surrogacy journey turns into ugly feud after they sue woman who carried their son. Nice. Have you heard anything about this? No, but World Magazine warned me about it when I was in high school.

Speaker: ah A legal battle between a gay couple and the surrogate who carried their son has ignited debate over the limits of parental rights and bodily autonomy in Canada. The Ontario couple is seeking roughly $600,000 in damages after their relationship with the surrogate completely collapsed during the pregnancy.

Speaker: The dispute began after the intended parents asked the surrogate to terminate the pregnancy at 22 weeks in June, 2024. Oh my God.

Speaker: They, they, they got cold feet on having a kid after they impregnated some woman. So this is, this is wild. Okay. This is nuts. Before, before we get too very, there's plenty to criticize about Canada, I would say, but like hats off to Canada on this one, I think. Okay. what i what i find most difficult in this is they are suing the woman who brought their son to them said sally rhodes heinrich owner of surrogacy in canada online according to the national post the intended parents were concerned that the unborn child could have a severe genetic or genetic or chromosomal condition and formally request that the pregnancy be terminated

Speaker: That's when everything changed. They wanted a termination, Sally Rhodes Heinrich, owner of surrogacy agency that connected the intended parents with the surrogate, told the outlet. The surrogate, however, refused to proceed with an abortion before more comprehensive testing was completed.

Speaker: The woman said she would have agreed to terminate the pregnancy if doctors concluded the baby had no realistic chance of surviving after birth. However, she was uncomfortable ending the pregnancy over what she believed could ultimately prove to be a correctable condition.

Speaker: Okay. Do we know what the condition might have been? Yes. So um specialists at Toronto's Mount Sinai Hospital later determined that the fetus was otherwise healthy healthy and that the cleft lip was a relatively minor birth defect that could be corrected with surgery.

Speaker: They wanted to abort a kid for a cleft lip? Are you kidding? So I think they initially... Okay, so initially that was one thing that they had said and that there was like potential for other genetic issues. These are some looks, Max, and gays, I guess.

Speaker: o it So it wasn't just the cleft palate when they said that they wanted her to... When they sent her a letter saying, we would like you to terminate the pregnancy. like There was potential for other things, but she said, no, no. no i Let's... Okay, let's get some...

Speaker: Let's get some more tests done here before we do that. Like, yeah hang your hang on a sec. Although the dispute began after disagreements during the pregnancy, the couple's lawsuit filed in May this year reportedly does not explicitly cite the surrogate's refusal to undergo an abortion as one of its legal claims.

Speaker: Instead, according to court documents, the parents allege that she failed to properly communicate medical information, endangered the unborn child's health through negligent behavior, breached confidentiality agreements, and caused severe emotional distress.

Speaker: Now, part of the reason that she was able to do this and why this is not a part of the complaint is because Canada has like a very firm ruling on bodily autonomy for women. Like yeah they cannot compel her to to end the pregnancy if she does not want them to. So she was within her rights to say, no, I don't want to do that.

Speaker: She was within her rights to be like, I need another $600,000 if you're going to ask me to terminate this pregnancy. Full-blown extortion. So this is where it gets a little, is where it gets like, okay, what are we doing here? So the lawsuit further claims that the emotional impact left one of the parents unable to work for more than a year.

Speaker: Okay. The surrogate has denied each allegation, saying she regularly updated the intended parents throughout the pregnancy, never placed the baby at risk, and respected the confidentiality provisions.

Speaker: The relationship between both parties reportedly deteriorated after the abortion disagreement with the surrogate alleging that the couple stopped communicating with her and ceased reimbursing pregnancy-related expenses. That's crazy.

Speaker: so they just go they're like they're just trying to ghost her like one of the this is one of the most like one of the wildest forms of contracts available to humans right yeah you're just like like like she's gone like no i'm just not gonna talk to her anymore you just you it's like new number who dis yes

Speaker: Reportedly, she was left covering roughly $10,000 in outstanding costs, including lost wages and travel expenses before attempting to recover the money through small claims court. Is it possible that the gayest shit you've ever heard is them saying that they're not paying anymore for a kid with a cleft lip?

Speaker: I'm sorry. I don't know if that's funny to people. i just you No baby of mine. you know like I don't know, man. I'm just messing around. It's funny how like legal things always go because it's like there's the base claim and then there's all the things that you can stack on top of it. you know and that's When you can't make the base claim like, hey, we had an agreement that you would get an abortion if we said so and you didn't.

Speaker: like We're suing you. You can't do that. So instead it's like, well, you endangered the child that we wanted you to terminate. Yeah. They like, they put like a, a, a tracking device in a car. They're like, you went 10 miles over the speed limit, risking the life of the child that we don't want. Like that's what's great. You're going to court saying they endangered the life of a child that you asked her to abort.

Speaker: What the fuck? So she gets stuck with $10,000 in bills because they stopped reimbursing her for fun for pregnancy expenses. What are these people? takes them to small claims court.

Speaker: That's like surrogacy is a wild world because. And I don't understand Canada's surrogacy rules because they have like a it's like a benevolent surrogacy or something like that. They call it like you can't pay anyone to be a surrogate for your baby beyond like reimbursing them their expenses.

Speaker: Whoa. It's something along those lines. I don't fully understand it. So I, I can't say for sure that, but I read that in one of these articles that I was looking at, which is an interesting concept. It also makes you go like, wow, why was she doing this in the first place? Right. This seems like would do that taxing process or maybe there's some sort of base charge that you can, you know, make for the the service. I don't know. its Surrogacy in this country is an incredible pay. Like it's like 20 grand or something.

Speaker: like It's literally, that's going to be all that's left of the American dream for women soon. Yeah. You know, you ladies, you're all having your day in the sun. You know, the late, you know, female hiring information, like your numbers are way up, but this is what's coming. Men, we're going to be able to like sell our plasma and break rocks with our heads. And and women are going to be able to start on OnlyFans or, ah or, you know, sell their womb.

Speaker: Yeah. The future is bright for everybody, regardless of a of gender. So they went through small claims court, but because their surrogacy agreement required disputes over expenses to be handled through private arbitration, that claim stalled.

Speaker: Shortly afterward, the intended parents filed their lawsuit in the Supreme Court seeking approximately $600,000 in damages. The lawsuit has drawn attention because expert believes it raises legal questions that Canadian courts have regularly been asked to consider have rarely been asked to consider. Commercial surrogacy is prohibited under Canada's Assisted Human Reproduction Act, meaning surrogates cannot be paid beyond reimbursement for legitimate pregnancy-related expenses. More importantly, Canadian law...

Speaker: also gives pregnant women complete control over their own medical decisions. Real quick, I was wrong about it being about, I thought, i feel like I heard 20 grand. Apparently, um that's that I'm realizing that that's selling your eggs. Selling your eggs is about, to you can get like 20, maybe 12, you can get ah up a lot of money for selling your eggs. But being a surrogate, I just found this website on the East Coast, earned up to $125,000, honestly,

Speaker: look pretty solid idea like having a baby per one baby a year you could do a baby a year you're getting paid six figures i mean yeah women are leaving a lot of options on the table now you got to be tobacco free you can't drink you can't there's a lot of things but look i just look 125 000 year Clean and sober, and and you know you can afford your ah Tesla truck lease payment.

Speaker: Just be rolling around in your big shiny brick. you know Might be worth considering, is all I'm saying. so ah Canada has become one of the world's most sought-after destinations for altruistic surrogacy because of its legal protections, inclusive eligibility rules, and established fertility programs.

Speaker: However, experts note that disputes involving medical decision-making during pregnancy remain exceptionally rare. Um, the Ontario based. So this is the part that like kind of really tugs at your heartstrings too. She says the Ontario based surrogate described the hefty law student as devastating saying in an interview, you know, I'm a single mom, you know, I have a daughter and you're basically suing me for my house.

Speaker: It just seems very crappy. It's just awful. I just feel used. They didn't get the perfect child they wanted and they threw me away. Oof. Yikes.

Speaker: They threw me away. that what That's what's crazy. It's like, that's not... is it that ah I don't even... i don't even have i guess I don't have words. like That's just a wild thing to do, to to just pretend something. like You're just like, no, this person doesn't exist to me anymore. Maybe if we just ignore this problem, it will go away. like what This is coming back for you. You've got a kid now.

Speaker: okay I don't know why. I mean, it seems like they would probably have some... they could have probably It seems like they could have decided not to adopt the baby after she had it.

Speaker: it was a donor It was a donor egg and then their sperm... You see how I struggle to say the word sperm? Yeah, it's hard. That programming's deep.

Speaker: but Sperm. I mean, dude, growing up the way we did, sperm whale was never not funny. I mean, yeah, couldn't sperm whale. Like, yeah to stifle up gotta it but

Speaker: dude, so funny. It's still kind of funny. It's the dumbest name for an animal. Name an animal with a dumber name than sperm whale. That's what they called the ah you know the stuff that they they squeezed out. When they put them in the juicer back in the day, that's what they that's what they squeezed out of them to ah you know make light bulbs or whatever. yeah I've been feeding Bobby Dick.

Speaker: ah There's a part where the like the the first mate guy's standing on deck and he's like screaming at them to row harder because they're chasing a whale. and he's like He's like, come on, man! Don't she love sperm?!

Speaker: That did. Do you know? Do you know why they're called sperm whales? I think cause they got that big noggin full of, you know, tasty goo.

Speaker: Yeah, that's I didn't. What's the goo in there? have no idea. what you Well, du you're on to something. You're not ah wrong. I did. Sperm whales are named after a milky, white, waxy fluid called spermaceti found in a massive organ in their head.

Speaker: you're ah You're right. During the 17th century, whalers mistook this valuable, oily substance for a whale's semen. That's why they're called sperm whales. They just thought they were dumping mad loads in the ocean. They're like, wow, that's one hell of a sperm whale. Which they were, just from a different part of their body.

Speaker: That's crazy. I did not know. They thought that's what came out of the blowhole. I thought they're just blowing loads from its the top of it said, dude, I thought as this whole time I was like, there's no way it's about actual sperm.

Speaker: Like, cause that would be, why that would be, we wouldn't be calling them that as a family, as a good Christian family. Yeah. The substance gets its name from the medieval Latin spermaceti, which literally translates to whale sperm. It's just a whale sperm whale. That's all it is. Yeah.

Speaker: Careful that you not lick your fingers, lad. Early commercial whalers prized the spermaceti organ, which can hold up to 2,000 liters of the fluid to make high-quality candles, cosmetics, and lubricants.

Speaker: So you can literally make lube out of their sperm. Dude, what does that smell to what what does that smell like to burn? what do What do the whales use it for? Because it's not their jizz. What do they use it for?

Speaker: Hmm... I don't know. I'm not sure. This is a science episode. What is the spermaceti organ used for?

Speaker: The spermaceti organ in the sperm whale functions as a biological sonar and acoustic. like It's basically like a smoke screen. Yeah. It's like when Daredevil launches smoke grenades and only he can find the enemy.

Speaker: Yeah. is They echolocate through their big tube of goo in their schmazz. It focuses and directs intense, high-frequency clicking sounds used for echolocation. Additionally, the waxy fluid inside helps regulate the whale's buoyancy to assist with deep dive. So it blows a huge load before it goes deep underwater is what it does.

Speaker: You're going you got to ah hit the old bilge pump before you take take off downstream. The spermaceti organ is massive, oil-filled structure that accounts for up to one-third of the sperm whale's total body mass.

Speaker: One third? That's crazy. It's two primary functions include echolocation and sound production. We learned so much about sperm whales tonight, and they're actually called sperm whales because it looks like they just jizz in the water constantly. Their head is just full of it.

Speaker: they're gens Yeah, it's just a constant stream of cum. um That's cool, man. i've I can't wait to tell people.

Speaker: Mother Nature's a mad scientist. Yeah. Oh, man. Good stuff. All right. ah you You got stuff to... Sorry, I interrupted. You got stuff to close that on with this story?

Speaker: No, ah the comment section is just full of people being like, ah my dad had a cleft palate and he's fine. I mean, my mom left him after a few years for, but, you know, he's okay.

Speaker: The baby grew up to be Joaquin Phoenix. Yeah, you could. Joaquin Phoenix. like That's a cool guy right there. actor from Joker 2.

Speaker: I didn't see that. Did you, by the way? No, I've never seen the Joker. I do Just the the vibe around it made me. I don't watch a lot of movies, but the vibe around that one made me just just refuse. I don't care. You'd like it.

Speaker: It's good. Yeah. I heard two is like one of the worst movies ever made, though. Was he in it? Was he in two? Yeah. It's a musical about him like going to trial for a.

Speaker: That's right. For causing like mayhem. Was he in the first one? Yeah. Okay. Okay. Yeah. And he lost like a ton of weight. He's like a real gangly character. It's, yeah it's good.

Speaker: I know it's good. I know he did a great job around it seemed kind of manufactured. Yeah, they're like they're going to make it seem cool to shoot up a place. and then you know But now when you go on Instagram, though, and you look at Reels, there's a bunch of people with missing teeth painting their face like the Joker. and Yeah, they definitely don't like the Joaquin Phoenix Joker.

Speaker: No, they don't. no that's ah those are the the Jared Leto Joker fans. oh God. i can we i hate Jared Leto. I hate him so much.

Speaker: Yeah, i agree. I hate him too. He sucks. i I know you can argue that he's a good actor, but it's just a he's got one of those faces and like you know how arrogant he is where you just don't. I never, ever want to see him in anything. Plus he has like a cult and seems pretty likely that he has a long history of ah abuse, sexual coercion and abuse. Yeah.

Speaker: Yeah. No, he seems like a piece of shit. Yeah. I don't like him. And he's box office poison. He just straight up murders every franchise he touches, which is fine. He's not touching anything worth saving, but... It's true. And it's funny because...

Speaker: Like, he i I actually like he is a good actor. So I feel like they're like, we should get him to do a thing. And then um and then they it's like they forget, like how much people hate him.

Speaker: So like you could be the best actor in the world. Like you you're just too hated to show up in anything. He threw a fit about how much he how much he he was like almost entirely cut out of Suicide Squad, and he like threw a fucking temper tantrum over it.

Speaker: That is seriously like that is one of my least favorite movies I've ever watched. I hated it. I have a visceral hatred for that Suicide Squad movie. Yeah, my, my, um my, the the movie I can remember hating the most.

Speaker: um And I know it's bad because I was probably 13 when I watched it and I watched a lot of bad movies and didn't know what bad movies your was. And like when you're 13 and you're like, this movie sucks. Like it's one of the worst films ever made. It was a ballistics X versus sever. Oh, that one's, that one's renowned for being bad. It's,

Speaker: if I actually want to rewatch it because it's so bad. I'd love to watch that with you. I don't, that'd be fun. I don't know if it's bad in a way that's even funny. I feel like it's just so flat.

Speaker: Like, I feel like it's just a complete straight flat line of a fucking film. Yeah. I actually want to look into who made it, who directed it, who wrote it and what their careers looked like afterwards. That could be fun. Yeah.

Speaker: But Jared Leto stars in Tron 5, where he rides a motorcycle inside my 3DS. And the twist is that he's actually Dig Dug. What's The budget is million. dollars And you can totally see where it all went.

Speaker: What is Dig Dug? That was like ah old school, like, like what is it? Like three bit game for Nintendo where you like, oh, yeah, you're little guy who digs a hole and there's yeah monsters after you or whatever. I was thinking like some evolved form of Diglett and Pokemon, but if is it could be. um Look, I had we got ah there's a couple of Reddit stories we could get into. o let's do it. Before we do, man, I want to just take a brief pause to reflect. Now, we look, we spent the first 30 minutes of this being very serious about things that are important.

Speaker: Our hate has made us powerful. It has. We're so strong. But, um you know, we do like to joke around here. And I've recently been a little convicted, you know, especially me. Like, you you you kind of keep things a little cleaner. You keep things. I say, I say naughty words. um o some point I have a, I, and I don't, I don't really notice it or think about it.

Speaker: um I'm just living my life one day at a time. Like everybody else, but you've got a real grand Platner approach to language. Hey, dude, if I ran for office,

Speaker: i would I feel like this is, I think about it because I want to run for something. I don't, I our i don't, our state rep, I don't like him. He sucks in my district.

Speaker: Dude, I don't know if anything's changed, but I looked him up a few years ago and like, dude, the guy's never presented any legislation at all. He's never, he barely, he makes some votes. Like this guy is fucking worthless.

Speaker: Donnie Berthium is his name. enjoy this guy sucks uh his family lives all around central mass people plenty of his family sucks uh but he works on home yeah one of those move though one of those apps that like moves his mouse automatically every couple of times he's done that for 50 years du He's definitely double dipping on salary. shit But right now he's just getting now he doesn't care. He's because of right. He got his pension. He's been reelected enough. He also goes to my kids school on like flag day or some shit. I don't know. They do every year. My kids, they like my kids school, like they do one of those, like, let's go to the Massachusetts State House.

Speaker: And then like Donnie Berthium says some shit to them. And I tell my kids, you can go ahead and tell everyone in your class that your dad hates Donnie Berthium. Like, fuck that guy. I hate him. Anyway, how'd they get down here? Oh, um ah anyway, that no real reason. we You feel bad about jokes? that You feel bad about being a potty mouth?

Speaker: And this little boy here, this little guy, he's he's a boy. I don't think he's quite a man. He's got a very Chad chad Kroger in 2001, 1999 to haircut. Yeah.

Speaker: you've seen him he's got ah he's got the the ring light shining bright on his face he's got the the piercing blue eyes and he he does like little mini sermons and he follows the cadence of every fucking megach churchch pastor And he said a few things that kind of spoke to my heart. And I just wanted to share them with everybody else. Heads are closed. Eyes are closed.

Speaker: This is going to be hard for some people. God does not like the inappropriate jokes. He does not like the crude talking, the coarse jokes, the dialogue with your friends that are not appropriate.

Speaker: Yes, God, I believe he does have a sense of humor, but it is a righteous sense of humor. He's a funny God. And my friend, you are meant to be set apart. You're meant to be holy. You're meant to be righteous. So my friend, do not partake in that obscene talk. It talks about that in Ephesians 5, 4. That should not be coming out of your mouth.

Speaker: My friend, there are many things to laugh and to joke about but inappropriate things, obscene, coarse jokes, that's not for you. Live holy and righteous. So, yeah.

Speaker: How are you feeling right now? Oh, very convicted. I wonder if he has the same level of conviction about, like, saying something super racist. I bet he doesn't have the same conviction about just going along to get along in polite society and not making everybody hate you. I'm sure he doesn't have a conviction about that. No. I...

Speaker: ah you Dude, I just love when people are like, God doesn't like the inappropriate jokes. And you're like, what do you even? to You've defined nothing. You have said abs. He has said nothing about what kind of jokes God likes or doesn't like.

Speaker: Yeah. Inappropriate, crude, crass. That is subjective because everything is subjective all the way down, especially the Bible. The Bible is most subjective fucking book in all of human history. Somebody tricked him into joining the pen 15 club. So he had to go off for a minute. Yeah.

Speaker: I like the, um there's like that, ah what's the word I'm looking for about the music? It's like big. It's like orchestral kind. a, i don't know. I'm doing a thing in my hands right now. am be expanding Ambient. Thanks. It's like the ambient, but it gets like more intense.

Speaker: And as it gets more intense, his cadence gets even heavier. in in god And they don't like, he doesn't like when you do the things that he doesn't want you to do. And they sound like it's his feigned passion. It's feigned passion. It's it's learned writer like ah cadence and It's so annoying. It should get so annoying. It's just that's the background track for that sort of thing. Whereas like if you're going to talk about a theory about how like the earth is flat from a Christian perspective, you have to use that like retro wave like Tron music that's like, wow, wow, wow, with the little diddly keyboard music. in the back and bu up up but but boop up but but butter

Speaker: They all use the exact same one. know what that song is. um What if I like told you that the Book of Enoch specifically talks about Bigfoot?

Speaker: And then 30 minutes later. I mean, that that's it.

Speaker: ah All right. I got couple. got a couple. i gotta i gotta a We'll see how many we want to get into. i know you got one too. um i got a few.

Speaker: going to let you tell me where to go with this and I'll save the others. We'll see if they're still around. I have one. i have one that I think might be fake and we could analyze it on those terms.

Speaker: And it's r slash Christian marriage. My wife is getting an abortion. I can't do it anymore. And then we have art slash Christian marriage about ah the the difficulties with marriage after a porn disclosure.

Speaker: um And I think it has some interest interesting. I think that one has I know that's a very like typical route to take, but ah there's something I really hate about the person who wrote this article.

Speaker: i like the sound of that. Okay. All right. Let's go with that one. This one's not is as long either, but man, it's just, you you know, when someone's writing in a way that makes you go,

Speaker: I like you just don't you just hate. yeah I guess I just hate. I just hate them. I don't trust them. I don't believe that there's anything in the world that could placate their sensibilities at this point. um So, yeah, we have a user. OK, his story in two one zero eight marriage after porn 18 months ago.

Speaker: Husband disclosed hidden porn use after six years of marriage. I had asked in the past and he lied about it. There has been repentance and accountability measures in place. I've gone through the steps of forgiveness and mostly things have been better. Let's put a pin in the idea of forgiveness. Yeah, we'll put a pin in that. That's why I'm here to talk about how everything's good now. Yeah, i shes i knowt that I remain skeptical.

Speaker: The thing I'm struggling with is the lying. So, okay, forgiveness for the porn, not for the lying is where we're going. It was our anniversary recently, and I could barely look at him in the eye.

Speaker: Milestones like anniversaries have been hard. We had a recent argument where I found out he hasn't been forthright about his preferences or when I do things he doesn't like.

Speaker: I understand building trust isn't just about telling the truth, but about being vulnerable to and not using too much teeth. Just kidding. She didn't say that. yes He's ah he's always told me things he loves about me.

Speaker: No, sorry. He's always told me one thing he loves about me is that he always knows where I'm at. I'm an open book. I would like that from him as well. I feel like something broke inside of me and I don't know who he is or if our marriage is going to survive this.

Speaker: We've done the whole thing we're supposed to do. Read the marriage books, done the counseling, etc. This 18 months. All right, so a year and a half. And that's a decent amount of time to feel this terrible. I know I can still honor God in my marriage. What I'm struggling with is this feeling of not knowing who I married and regretting my choices.

Speaker: So what what does that mean? him ah This subject makes me like, i know it makes tear on the back of my neck stand up a little bit. I have like seven things I hate about this person.

Speaker: What are like your top three? Well, it sounds like he is telling you who he is. He's a person who struggles with this thing, you know, like he confessed.

Speaker: I don't even know if he was caught. i think he just confessed. You know, it's not that you don't know who you're married to. It's that the person you're married to isn't like perfectly upholding the statutes that you talked about. Like he's a foul human being.

Speaker: that's how much people like That's how much evangelical communities wrap up in like in human sexuality. They're like, he looked at porn and now I don't know who he is anymore. and What kind of a person would do this? it's like he it's It's something that he's struggled to not do for a long time, it sounds like. you know And it's it's clearly weighed on him because he he came clean. um You know, that's that's a lot more than can be said for, ah you know, Mike Johnson.

Speaker: Yeah. You know? Do you think he, like, Pete Hex, how much did he pay for Lindsey Graham's Rolodex of male prostitutes? Yeah.

Speaker: There's a... You got that Graham's little black book. dude Here's what I hate the most about this, though, is So 18 months ago disclosed porn use after six years of marriage. I had asked him in the past and he lied. Why do you think he lied? You idiot.

Speaker: Look at your fucking reaction on Reddit. Why do you think he lied? Because he knew you were going to do this. He knew this was how was going to play out. Like, it's just so fucking infuriating. Listening to people be like, it was, he, it, everything he was afraid of came true. And I don't know why he wasn't honest with me because,

Speaker: Your reaction is excessive. It's part of the problem of like painting, like treating, like looking at porn as as infidelity, like it's the same as having an affair.

Speaker: And they they say that constantly in the in the comments and in the posts on these subreddits that like, it's the same. They're the same. Because, you know, God's... I think the point of the Bible, like, to me, what it seems like, the point of the Bible saying that like... If any if any man has looked at a woman with lust, then he has committed adultery.

Speaker: I think the point of that is to say, like, look, just because you didn't act out on every single impulse doesn't mean that, like, you're above everyone who did like everybody's fallen. Everybody has like a sinful nature. Like no one can uphold this standard that you're pretending is in place for everybody. Right. Dude, totally. it's not like It's not for the purpose of condemnation of the thing. It's for the purpose of equaling and leveling the playing field. It's like, if your right hand causes you to sin, cut it off. Obviously, that's not literal. It's not literal. It's just like...

Speaker: They quote those as literal all the time. we The point is that everybody does some shit, so shut the fuck up and figure it out like goddamn grownups and stop moralizing everything. The other annoying thing about it, too, is that like this is this occupies so much of the of the dialogue in these Christian subreddits, partly because... Look, there's a lot of different ways that you can disrespect your your spouse or your partner, right? There's a lot of different ways that you can violate their trust, that you can treat them unfairly. Like there's infinite ways, right? But this is one of those things that you can just point to and say, well, you saw porn.

Speaker: Yeah. And it's clear cut and and there's no gray. It's like you saw it. So you violated it. And it's like, well, have you been honest with every single thing you've said to your husband? Like, he has been. That's what he likes. Did you? That's her favorite. That's his favorite thing about the book. She's an open book. He knows everything about her. You want to know why she doesn't know everything about him? Because she can't hack it. That's why. yeah oh I.

Speaker: he there's there's Who we are and what we like are not always the same thing. so like for her like he's He always said he likes the things I do, and then now he's like, I don't know. It's because if he told you, you would have just like...

Speaker: This is the fear of like, look, this is just the, I mean, this is a general fear of like sexual intimacy in general, i think. But it's like, if you're like, um, I don't really like that. They're like, ah, oh, I made it so weird. You don't like what I do think like it.

Speaker: it's also This is what happens when you're a person who is not receptive to challenging information that you might not like. And what happened is at one point before you got married, you were like, do you look at porn? And he knew his entire life would blow up over something stupid like that. Over something fucking meaningless like that. So he lied.

Speaker: He lied because he didn't want to have to hit the whole fucking reset button. He didn't want to push the big red button on his entire life over something that inconsequential. And now you're here because you're the pussy. You're just a weak minded person. I can't handle honesty. That's why people who hate the whole, like, they're not honest with me. That's the one thing I can't take. It's like, yeah, that's why they're not honest with you. The one thing you can't handle is, is honest. You can't actually handle true, authentic honesty. You'll be alone your entire life. If people were honest with you, you will.

Speaker: No one will ever, ever, ever just, be good enough for you like that's that's all i'm hearing from this self-righteous fucking bullshit i don't know why is this so so easy there's so many of these oh i can't i know they do me too i i don't read them all the time because it does it like puts me in a mood but yeah it's man you know, being, I think when you, you know, whether you're talking about friendship or marriage or whatever, like, you know, being a partner is like, it's, it's not like I'll overlook this mouthfees as long as it never happens again. And that's being patient and long suffering and working with your, you know, your spouse or whoever, like it's realizing that like, Hey, this is a thing that's hard for the other person. And while I don't like it and it makes me feel bad, like,

Speaker: i'm I'm going to work with them on this or whatever, you know? like But just being like, well, I overlooked the one mistake, but it's zero tolerance from here forward.

Speaker: Like, we is what do you what do you expect to happen? I mean, I don't know. This is the kind of person who goes, well, how would you feel if I looked at porn? He'd be like youre like, I don't care. I don't care. Oh, you don't care? You think that little of me? Oh, okay. You're just going to find a problem with everything I say. Okay. So much of this, too, like all of this, this circular thought pattern that just it just drives a huge wedge between these people. It's like, yeah, you're both fallible human beings. You're going to have problems. You're going upset each other, right? But like the comment sections in these things are just full of people being like, you know what, you are on point with your thinking here.

Speaker: You should not have to put up with this again. And you basically need to lay out the law and say never again or else like that. And they say the same things like I'm not, you know, like I found out that he looked at porn and I'm not in love with him anymore. Like I still love him, but I'm not in love with him anymore. It's like, are you serious? I saw the one that you're thinking of specifically. I saw that. Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker: Okay. What's the comments? Um, actually, hold on. Did I finish? I might not finish reading this. Uh, The thing is, I'm struggling with the lying. It was our anniversary recently. i did that.

Speaker: I understand Bill. ah We had a recent argument where I found out he wasn't. Oh, yeah. He hasn't been forthright in his preferences when I do things he doesn't like. He's always told me one thing he loves about me is being an open book. I would like that from as well. Did i read this last paragraph? I feel like something broke inside of me and I don't know who he is or if our marriage is going to survive.

Speaker: We've done the whole thing we're supposed to do. Oh, I did read that. Sorry. Yeah. um I went through the motions of like, ah you know, i it's so catastrophizing. All right. So the top comment.

Speaker: is ah a married man who goes by Zozo. That's that's like his like little tag banner thing under his name. It says married man, so everybody knows. um So he's going to have great insight here. ah Grace, mercy, and forgiveness. Yeah, you know this it was written by a dude who failed at potentially becoming a pastor one day, so he just resorts to writing dumb shit on Reddit. Grace, mercy, and forgiveness. I would add transparency and understanding to that list also.

Speaker: Grace, mercy, and forgiveness. We all Christians understand. It's the transparency and understanding where we tend to fall short.

Speaker: I'll explain. So let me say something in a nonsensical, idiot-ass way so that way I can explain it as though you're the idiot. yeah a marriage should be transparent with zero privacy shut the fuck up already i this guy obviously has cp on his computer i don't trust this guy at all when you when you go this hard about stuff that needs to be true you're doing i don't trust them at all when they do this this grandstanding thing to me i'm red flag yep this is uh

Speaker: This is somebody with a very dark secrets. You are fucking hookers in the ass every night of the week. When you tell your wife, you have to work late. Like you're not, you're doing shit.

Speaker: I don't, I don't try. I want to, I actually want to hire a private investigator to ruin this man's life. That's what I want to do. A marriage should be transparent with zero privacy. i have no privacy. My wife knows everything.

Speaker: She knows all the TikToks I like, period. But that makes extreme that takes extreme courage on both parties. Courage. every The person divulging something personal and embarrassing needs the courage to come clean and the receiver needs to be understanding. Every time one person gets the courage to come clean about something, if it's met with anger, dishonor, resentment, and or ridicule, then you can kiss transparency goodbye. All right. Fair point. I'm back on the sky. Fair point. right

Speaker: You'll never have that if you can't watch your tone, words, body language, et cetera. I would ask for a reset to transparency. Both of you come to the table and state that we need to enact a sense of transparency in our marriage. All these people who act like you can just declare something and everything change. It's like, no, because they're still married to the same person that made them not trust them to begin with. Have you cast your your issue to Christ?

Speaker: Have you really gone to him in supplication and prayer? Are you saved? They ask that all the time. and It's like, what are you talking about? Look where you're at. This is that um

Speaker: with that workaholics episode with Chris D'Elia when he's an actual child predator. Yeah. And they give him a second chance because he's so cool. like that that's all That's all we're doing here.

Speaker: But it's like, okay, so where does that... Is there an equivalent like that to on on the wife's side of the issue? you know Or are none of the infractions that that she commits, are they are any of them as clear-cut and easy to point out as this? They're probably not. They're probably not because that is...

Speaker: So it's like operating under the notion that like, well, I don't have anything like there's nothing like this I don't dishonor you in any sort of way like it's annoying. Being an annoying fucking person isn't quantifiable. Like just looking like your search history is. Yeah.

Speaker: I mean, you think about like what if his if his issue was that he was, you know, overbearing, controlling and manipulative. Like, I would say that's probably a ah worse offense against his wife. But, like, you can't point at that immediately as, like, a, you know...

Speaker: There, you did the thing. you You wronged me. Now we have to talk about it. like Right. every other deflected Every other thing is like a deflection. It's ah it's a conversation. it's It requires somebody to see it from the same perspective. yeah I feel like when I present an idea, you often shut it down and it makes me feel small. I don't do that.

Speaker: Oh, okay. I guess we're done here. like Yeah. Yeah. Because it you need something like concrete and quantifiable. he can't just be like, hey, you burn dinner every night. But how would that honesty go? She wants radical transparency. Bitch, you suck at fucking cooking dinner. How's that?

Speaker: How do you like that? Are you moving to the right right now? I am. I'm so far right. It's crazy. He's chugging up. I know it's guys, dude. And look, I also don't want to come across as this guy that thinks that there's like this guy might suck.

Speaker: He might. He might. He might be a manipulative little liar. And and she is valid in being like very frustrated with him. yeah But it's just like it's it's such a recurring trend in these spaces to like see over and over and over again. I have no doubt that this guy kind of sucks. i i He might, he might not.

Speaker: It's vague in this one. Usually you can get a better idea. She thought he was great until recently. My thing is like, look there, I'm not saying there isn't a line where like you could, you could be causing some, you could, you're someone's porn consumption could be very problematic and concerning.

Speaker: yeah I'm just like, there's there's shit to be worried about. If it's like, there's frequency issues. There's like, there's like, ah you know, that like spiraling where people are like always looking for something crazy and more extreme. Like there's issues to be concerned about. I am not a person who just carte blanche is like, do whatever you want, whatever you look for, whatever you like on the internet is good and healthy and fine. I think there's problems with the availability of porn.

Speaker: Yeah, absolutely. the access to it, the impact on kids. I have a lot of problems with it. I'm just saying, stop treat even if you don't agree with it, a moderate consumption.

Speaker: if I'm just saying regardless of that, like just stop treating it like this end-all, be-all. This is the church's fault too. This woman has been programmed.

Speaker: This woman has been programmed. I'm being a dick to her. She's probably just another programmed woman to think that her husband will never love her or be satisfied by her because he looked at some shit on the internet.

Speaker: he would only look at that if he was dissatisfied and unattracted to you. That's the kind of thing like this is a substitute for you. That's why he's doing it. He's substituting this for your affection. And it's like, that's not...

Speaker: That's not true. i don't I mean, at all, I don't think. like it's The church treats stuff like porn and masturbation and stuff like it's crystal meth, and it's really more like McDonald's cheeseburgers.

Speaker: yeah's like like It's all about how many of them you're eating. Yeah, yeah. Oh, you're eating 30 a day? You should maybe go see a doctor.

Speaker: But like... Oh, getting it once a month? What are we doing here? Like, what are we doing? Like, he could just watch Game of Thrones and pretends he's watching it for the plot.

Speaker: Yeah, dude, this is such an annoying subject. that Every week, this is kind of like the pastors getting caught molesting kids. like We could bring you this stuff every week and have six new stories or new posts to talk about. We try not to do that because it is so annoying and it's such like constantly retread ground in these reddits. I mean, it's over and over again you see it. Oh, yeah. But, yeah you know, this dude, he...

Speaker: I know he's probably in the same boat of programming and stuff, but like if ah if he's not willing to ah you know have NetNanny on his phone and like ah you know a big ah a big break glass in case of emergency with ah a shotgun that she can point at him like every time he he goes to Pornhub or something, he's probably going to have to... like reestablish what the realistic boundaries are to some extent, you know, and if he doesn't do that, then this is what it is. And he's just, he's got to have to live with it.

Speaker: I think churches need, this is okay. We've, we've been talking a lot about Christian business or businesses lately um involving various things, uncut dildos, honey trap games. I'm thinking,

Speaker: my The new one I'm thinking about, and I want your feedback on it, we can maybe maybe perfect it a little bit as time goes on, but ah you mentioned break breakke glass in case of emergency. We need dick cages in like an emergency like break the glass type box where it's like...

Speaker: a real pointy one it's like a it's like that kid in your class that was still sucking his thumb at age like five or i mean like ten and so they put that like sharp thing in his like behind his teeth yeah they put the sour apple on his fucking thumb the shit that you put on dogs for uh when they keep won't stop licking a spot he just has to wear like sandpaper gloves all day You're just like, babe, babe, break the glass. I'm having inappropriate thoughts.

Speaker: Oh, all right. Do you want to hear a ah ah different but similar sort of topic? Yeah, well, let's ah we'll we'll close out with this one. We can do this one. is Oh, quick, quick aside.

Speaker: I was trying to look and see if I can find a was trying to look and see if I can find like posts about Christian business and businesses on Reddit. Yeah.

Speaker: There's some funny ones in there. oh I bet. Looking for guys to start a Christian dropshipping network with me. i don't have any ideas or concepts to work with, but I'm ready to brainstorm. But I'm a Christian who's looking for something easy to do from home.

Speaker: So, okay, so this one caught me. I thought this was very interesting because this is one where you're like, the advice in the comments could push this in a really good direction or it could push it a really bad one.

Speaker: It's in the Christian Marriage subreddit and it says, I found this on my wife's notes. I wasn't looking for anything. for All right, out the gate. little concerned about that situation. you are looking through... are you looking at her notes?

Speaker: you are If you're opening in notes, if you're if you're doing anything other than like, what could you do on someone's phone? Hey, do you have your phone? I want to look this thing up real quick.

Speaker: And mine's upstairs. Yes. ah There's just not a lot you can do on somebody's phone. If you're opening anybody's apps, instantly you're lying. Yeah, everybody has snooped when they shouldn't have. You need to just be a you't need to admit it. We can't start the first sentence of your post off with a lie, okay? Right, that's the problem here. Because a post built on a foundation of sand, it will not stand. You might as well have looked at porn right before you posted this. You just just started off and be like, hey, i'm a snooping ass bitch.

Speaker: I did the snoops. I will say, some of these people in these things advocate for like snooping. like Yeah, I bet they do. If you have nothing to hide, then why would you? Fucking narcs. Yeah.

Speaker: Don't snoop. because you're going to spoil your earn of anniversary gift. I feel like if you if you do if you go looking for trouble in that way, like you're going to find it. You're going to find something that your brain can run with that you should have just not looked at.

Speaker: You know i think it's like ah it liked that Instagram picture yeah of that woman in a thong by accident? That's another thing you see on here all the time of just like people being like, well, my wife, I saw that her ex wished her a happy birthday and she said, thank you.

Speaker: Why aren't still friends with her ex on Facebook? It's so true. you go looking for something, you're going to find it. That's how our brains work. Because people are curious. Who isn't friends with their ex? Who doesn't want to see if other people's lives turn into complete failures? The same guy. You want...

Speaker: in all of these subreddits, the same commenter tells them that like they should ask their their wife to block all of their like former boyfriends and friends out of respect to them.

Speaker: Yeah. Yeah. Because he's the most insecure motherfucker on the planet. Yeah, he sucks. I hate him. ah It's so gross. I wasn't looking for anything, but I found this note she wrote yesterday on her iPad.

Speaker: daily reminder what i'm feeling is attraction not ah not an obligation feelings can appear spontaneously but my choices keep being mine i won't fuel this attraction with fantasies idealizations or unnecessary closeness the less i reinforce it the more it will lose its strength with time i'm going to direct my energy to what i truly value my marriage my peace my principles and the life i'm building Novelty can be intense, but intensity is not synonymous with love or lasting happiness. I choose to protect my heart before my feelings dictate my decisions. Today, I will invest in what strengthens my relationship, take care of myself, and remember that this is that this feeling is temporary.

Speaker: It defines neither who I am nor the future of my life, one day at a time, one choice at a time. Honestly, that's Buddhist as fuck, dude. That's actually really good. pretty good. That's actually really good. Like, that is, look, if you're, I mean, you could find problems with it.

Speaker: Like, yeah, who cares? You had a lossful thought. don't Don't beat yourself up over it. So what? You entertain that thought further than maybe you should have. Like, whatever. Like, but I actually, the way that was written with the intentionality of focusing on the things you love and your life and the positive.

Speaker: i look, I kind of respect that. I think it's weird to write it down. You kind of were weird to write it down, I guess, in your phone like that. But you wrote it good. What is this person's problem? I'm interested to hear what this person's problem is because I know I'm sure it's like, wow, my is, uh, is it who's writing this? The guy or the girl?

Speaker: Uh, this is the lady. The lady that and the the guy i guy wrote something that introspective. no No, no, no, no, no. The, the, it's the guy making the post on my bed. His wife is the one who wrote that in her notes.

Speaker: Okay. Says, uh, I know what his problem is going to be. He says, I have a feeling she generated this on chat GPT. This was translated by myself verbatim. She was always the most Christian in our 10 year marriage, but I have been faithful as she always has been from what I know. What should I do with this?

Speaker: What was this problem then? Because if you find that, even though like, hey, that's so many handling normal feelings. Shut the... I hate this person. I hate this man.

Speaker: He's out here acting like he hasn't thought about somebody he knew in high school. He's out here acting like he didn't want, has never, ever fantasized about anything other than his wife. Fuck this guy. He's a lying sack of shit. man It's... I, the only thing I could see is like, wow, it seems like she's having to be very intentional about not acting on this.

Speaker: Okay. She's being intentional about not acting on it. Like, yeah. Don't we love intentionality in Christianity? Isn't that what it's all about? Yeah. So the comments are pretty good. Maybe she wants to ask if you'd rather have a threesome. If your options are fucking knowing that she's like doing her best to stay focused and keep her eye on the prize.

Speaker: Or if you want an open marriage. take It's up to you, dude. like I don't think you're going to want to choose a second. Or, yeah, it's a closed marriage, but you get to, ah you know, Eiffel Tower her with her manager at Kinko's.

Speaker: yeah Maybe she proposes that option. Right. We can have threesomes, but only if it's a devil's threesome. It's a real turducken sort of situation. It's a real, ah, ah fuck.

Speaker: I'm blanking on his name. Who's the Supreme Court motherfucker? oh Oh, boy. Supreme Court guy? The devil's threesome guy. that ah That Susan Collins got. Oh, Cavanaugh?

Speaker: Cavanaugh! Thank you. I wish I didn't ruin the joke so bad, but I had to get to the bottom. What was his thing about the threesome? Brett Cavanaugh. Oh, we had a devil's threesome.

Speaker: ah No, a devil's triangle. The devil's triangle is what he said. And he was like, oh, that was just a thing where you did blah, blah, blah. It's like he wouldn't admit that they Eiffel Towered some chick or some shit like that. Like, dude, fuck that guy. He should be in prison, not on the Supreme Court.

Speaker: Right. Absolutely. anyway um Okay. So it seems like the comments are pretty good in general, which is a good thing, right?

Speaker: um This looks like a lady posting. She says, well, it sounds like she might have a teeny tiny crush or even just find someone that know she knows attractive. I honestly think this is a really healthy way to handle it. She clearly loves you and is actively turning away from this fleeting feeling.

Speaker: We are human. These things happen. How you handle these things is everything. I don't think it's a bad idea to bring it up. I hope you aren't snooping through her personal diary or anything. It's a terrible idea to bring it up. it is one idea to break up If you want to get a divorce, if you're not happy with your marriage, like however happy you think you are right now after reading it, imagine how much worse it's going to get when you bring it up.

Speaker: Yeah, I think that is 100% true. I mean, how irritated is she going to be that you you snooped through? You absolutely snooped through her stuff and you found that. like You didn't accidentally find that.

Speaker: You opened her notes. It's like that lady we talked about last week where she's like, I just happened to see that you know his wax his ex was still in his friends list when I was sending myself a picture from his phone. I was not looking.

Speaker: You went through his friends list and happened to say, okay, ah sure. It's so dumb. These people, ah I love how just because they're posting on Reddit, they think they get to control the narrative by just making like...

Speaker: obviously like blatant it's the the statements are so blatant that it's clearly a lie oh it's very funny i that but i typed in uh i typed in the secret code to get to the limited access folder they had and then i snooped through that folder and i pieced together a bunch of information and i found out that maybe they were having some contact with the person they knew from college and And it found that by the way they used a series of numbers and letters to merge with their first and last name in a way that made me. real It's like, OK, dude, you you're just a snooping ass bitch. Stop lying everybody.

Speaker: i um I was trying to get some old pictures from her, so I used a Trojan horse email to hack her iCloud, and you know i just happened to see that she still has 30-year-old pictures of her with an ex-boyfriend on her phone. What do I do?

Speaker: You hire a hitman to kill the ex-boyfriend. That's the only option. That's the only option. You got a Tim Lambesis that thing.

Speaker: The last thing that chick says is I would feel really confident and secure in my spouse if I found that they had handled a little attraction like this. So that's I think that's a pretty good comment other than. Yeah. Other than the like, oh, you should just bring it up.

Speaker: Yeah. it's fun yeah Oh, my God. That's exactly what, that's exactly what we were taught, dude. That's what we were told. Oh, these attractions are fleeting. Focus on the, ah like the the good focus on God, focus on your husband, focus on what you love. Like dude that's she literally is just right. That's just literally what we were all taught to do yeah in evangelical Christianity. And she's like doing it to a T and he's like, yeah, but she's, she's trying too hard to love me now.

Speaker: Another female commenter says, but sir, you need to step it up too. If you see her attention trying to be divided by the enemy, this is your time to step up the romance. Remind her why y'all got married. Fight for your wife.

Speaker: What? Jake says this. The adversary seeks the chink in the armor, so don't have them. What a weird way of saying that. Yeah, you don't need these racial slurs. Jesus Christ.

Speaker: Tell her daily she's attractive. Touch, hold, hands, hug, give her your undivided attention with eye contact, not fiddle with the phone. Oh, my God. Yeah, make her feel like a fucking psychological prisoner. that oh you can All this advice is just like,

Speaker: just the it of it it just pulls all like the human act like the actual humanity out of everything like you're trying too hard to do everything right it's all this is it's like you you oh you want a hug you need to hold her for seven and a half seconds slowly pull away stare her right in the eyes and if she looks away be like why are you looking away and then grab her by the chin and point her face in your direction it's like What are you doing? You're trying to sabotage this man's marriage.

Speaker: He's just a little insecure. This guy's honestly probably fine. He did something weird. He looked through her phone. I don't know what possession to do it. He's insecure. That's all. He looked at because he's insecure. I'm shifting teams a little bit. I'm finding empathy for both of them. He's an insecure small man that doesn't know how to be confident. He probably just needs to go for a jog or something. Been there. Been there. Get your... Get your head out of your ass. Get some fresh air. Touch some grass. Come on.

Speaker: like It's okay. Yeah. i i do You know what? I think in general, like it's pretty easy to make people feel like seen and appreciated if you care at all. Yeah. if you've Have you listened to anything that she's told you about herself over the past like 20 years or whatever? Then like it shouldn't be hard for you to know like, oh, what's some things that she likes? Like going to go out of my I'm going make sure that I go out of my way to you know I'm going to check myself and make sure that I'm doing a good job of being like a good partner, you know?

Speaker: That guy says in parentheses, he says married 40 years. So that makes me wonder about him, because if he's been married 40 years, then he's probably 60 and he's still on Reddit.

Speaker: Already a crazy red flag, right? Yeah. um This guy says, you could be the best husband in the world and it could still happen. It is always the struggle of variety over stability. Stable marriages slash relationships are just boring by nature.

Speaker: Like, o what? What are you talking about? h Wait, did he say how long he's been married? No, he didn't even say if he was married.

Speaker: Wait, why did you why were you saying you was 60? That was a different guy. This is a different guy this is a different commenter. Okay, okay. It sounds like she's attracted to another man, possibly a co-worker, and she's working to manage it appropriately. I think you should tell her you read it and her and her talk to you and her talk to you about it.

Speaker: Dude, oh this is why you don't snoop. This is why. Because once you do, you can't bring it up. But now you know it, it's going to ruin you. You don't. Here's a here's also a thing. You don't have to know everything your spouse is thinking. you know?

Speaker: I would. I am certain. I'm certain I could be wrong. I could be wrong. I'm certain maybe isn't the right way. I wouldn't care.

Speaker: i don't care if at some point in our marriage, my wife has been attracted to somebody else. I don't care if she's really enjoyed their company and liked them to it a degree where she might have thought she had to say something like, nope, we have kids, we have a house, we love each other, we have a history. I'm not going to just follow this fleeting feeling.

Speaker: I'm going to focus on the thing that fucking matters, which is the family we built, blah, blah, blah, that whole thing. i I'm telling you, I don't care. The only reason I would care is if I snooped into her phone and read it and knew who it was about. Then you'd fucking. Yeah. yeah Then you'd feel weird about it You would just go like you just don't. You don't have to care about this stuff. This is why you don't snoop.

Speaker: You let people live their lives and you just trust them. Because as soon as you snoop a little bit, like what if this person was like, I found some text messages of my wife being kind of flirty with a coworker.

Speaker: and you're like, yeah, that only sucks because now you know about it. Like a lot of people have just one. You could read friendly and flirty. I mean, if they're like texting at like 11 o'clock at night while you're sleeping there, like that's obviously lines that are weird. There's a line there. I know there are lines. I'm just saying you're better off not knowing all this shit. I think like it's very. Knowing is a double edged sword.

Speaker: It's very easy to know where the lines are too. Sure. And I think if you're being honest about that, like you probably shouldn't really have too much trouble not stepping over those lines.

Speaker: Right. I think people get in trouble because they allow they allow themselves to continually like go over that line with people on a regular basis. Yeah.

Speaker: and Maybe. my My point is that people will read into things like that unnecessarily in like think of it as flirting when it's not. Yeah, absolutely. Like, oh, that was too many ha-has in response to something in the group work group text. Like, I just am saying, like, you don't...

Speaker: but Don't do it. You're going to overanalyze everything and go into self... This guy is now in self-sabotage mode. yeah He's either stuck going forward without saying anything or he's going to say it and it's going to cause a problem.

Speaker: if you if you snoop you are you don't trust and you may have a good reason to not trust but you might also not have a good reason to not like just fuck i now like this is all about him right yeah like that's what this is because like she's doing what she needs to do to manage it right so now like talking about it is just probably just watched jared leto and suicide squad and like It is just a little horny. That's all. She saw his ha ha ha tattoos and like his damaged on the side of his head or whatever. like Oh, man, he's such a bad boy. She likes the bad boys with the lipstick.

Speaker: Oh, man. Yeah. So there's a lot of people that kind of say in similar sorts of stuff. um Yeah, honestly, i don't see anybody i don't see anybody really going like too hard in the other direction. This guy says, I am a Christian man. otherwise Knowing my wife was so attracted to another dude to the point of writing it down would hurt my feelings, and I don't want to pretend otherwise. With that being said, she didn't do anything with the dude, so let her be.

Speaker: No need to bring it up. Yes. Yeah, it can hurt your feelings. That is okay for dirtier feelings. Because, like, on the flip side, if this guy was like, I i know this person that I think is so unrelentingly hot. Like, oh, it's real she's just gorgeous.

Speaker: It's like, yeah, that you don't you don't need to know that stuff. Now, I feel like the, I don't know how old these people are, but we think about this a lot. This comes up a lot. How old are they? Because the older you get, I feel like the less you should care about this stuff.

Speaker: Yeah. I've been together a long time. mean, I'm getting older. My beard's turning gray. My boobs are getting saggier. Like, I'm just, where I'm getting older. It's like, as you get older, I'm incredibly well aware of the fact that there are so many sexier men out there than me. Oh, okay. I found a bad...

Speaker: I found a bed. Well, yeah. Yeah. yeah It's like, of course there are. You think I'm mad about that? You think I'm mad that you think this guy, I know this guy's a total 10. I'm a fucking six, bro. Like I know that guy's a 10. I'm not mad. Nobody has ever laid in bed and thought about me sexually. Yeah.

Speaker: You know what? I'm at peace with that. That's fine. yeah That's harder in your early 20s. Dude, once you push in 40, who fucking cares? Yeah, I'm 5'6", but I do have health insurance. Wink.

Speaker: I have health insurance in a garage fridge full of Monster Energy drinks. Okay, so this guy says, so you are finding out that your wife has a sinful nature and she's not an angel from heaven. Dang.

Speaker: Deep. Not really. Okay. All right. She's trying to fight her sinful, fleshy desires with positive thinking. She's jokes? Yeah. Yeah. She's trying to fight her sinful fleshly desires with positive thinking. Never has been or never will be a long-term solution. The only solution is the power of the Holy Spirit. Be a real leader and don't find fault with the sinful nature, but lead towards the spirit if you can.

Speaker: And remember, women are the weaker sex, so... Oh, God. ah there there There had to be at least one. That's crazy.

Speaker: And what does that mean? Oh, and remember, there we I love how he thinks women are more lustful than men. Have you not been on Reddit for more than like 12 hours, you fucking idiot?

Speaker: For real? half of reddit is men just being horny that's it that's like 80 of reddit is just horny ass dudes 100 find any comment find go find any sexy picture of a woman on the internet and go to the comments it's just men being like predators that's it oh boy ah all right oh man yeah that's enough of that so well All right.

Speaker: Well, thanks everybody for listening. ah Join our discord if you haven't yet. It's a, it's, it's a, it's a moving all the time nowadays. Yeah. It's been bumping. So,

Speaker: um yeah our ah Our album review club has ah been slowing down a bit in the summer, but I'm trying to get that, you know, I'd like to get it. I'd like to get Summer's tough. Summer's tough, especially for me. But I'd like to get that. ah I'd like to get some more people in it I'd like to keep it moving. See, I can't be in there because Sam is the musical equivalent of the guy that's like, I conquered pornography six years ago and I never looked back.

Speaker: but he Oh, i I have a difference of opinion and that's hurting my feelings. yeah Now you sound like a Reddit bitch too. Fuck you. I don't like when people say things that I don't agree with because it makes me sad.

Speaker: get back in the fucking group you know what i'll do it when uh the new corn album comes out okay about that all right fair when skillet puts out a new lpl i'll jump back yeah and that was the last that was that the last album you submitted just to ruin it that that's that's why you're not even a good part of the group you're like how do i just fuck this up how do i ruin everybody's week i am i am withdrawing myself for that reason Yeah. Okay. You know what? I'm done trying to convince you back because you made it awful. Actually, when I think of what you submitted, everything actually did stop.

Speaker: I saw a post on here earlier and it was like, I saw a Disciple last night and they rocked. And Disciple has to be 55 years old now. They were making albums like while we were in elementary school.

Speaker: Very, very bad albums. Yeah. And the person like posted a couple of pictures of the show and then they posted. I'm serious. They posted like eight different pieces of merch that they bought all signed by Disciple. They bought the set list. They bought like every album. They bought a record. They bought a hat. It's like in all of it, they had to sign on like all their names to it.

Speaker: i just create I don't understand the signature thing for like most acts, the vast majority of acts. It's like, why do you want Disciple's signature?

Speaker: I don't understand it at all. That's something I don't care about. I've never cared about an autograph. I understand why you might like it on an album. Like there's like, you know, 200 are, the,

Speaker: ah you know are signed, hand signed, whatever, hand numbered. Like I get, I get that. I'm not throwing any shade at it at all, but on like, so I, I get why people could care. Like Taylor Swift, right?

Speaker: Huge artist. Your, your name's so big that like, It adds value to the thing having it signed. Yes, there's actual value. Disciples signature carries zero value.

Speaker: um In fact, if they sign your t-shirt, it's worth less because someone fucking ruined it Yeah, you deface the album artwork with their initials. Yeah.

Speaker: But on a personal level, I don't care about stuff like that at all. I'll never think about it. i would I would be like, oh, why would I spend more on that? like i just I don't care. If I had the disposable income to just waste on things that I thought were funny, I would would love to go to like much weird shit oh i'd love to go to like a skillet show and buy every piece. of like The smallest merchandise they have and make John's super sign it all.

Speaker: and so Exactly. Dude, if you had an infinite supply of money, I can't think of anybody, like most people would have a hard time having fun. They'd be like, they'd buy shit. They'd have new shit to deal with. They'd have to, oh, we got a boat. We're going to No, you, that's how you would spend all of your money. It's just on stupid shit. like that like and you would have the time of your life you would fall you would you would follow skillet and get front row for 180 days straight just to say that you did it and that would be good enough for you yeah you just

Speaker: i would i would have i would send you a uh a cameo from kyle rittenhouse like once a month yeah you would you would I can't think of anyone to spend money better than you for fun.

Speaker: Jordan Peterson, once a month he has to sing Yankee Doodle Dandy for my friend's fam.

Speaker: He's got to be on Cameo, right? That would be great. um I mean, the Daily Wire can't be paying well these days. He's trying to keep himself in benzos, you know? He's done. they do The Daily Wire is done for. Shapiro is if six feet under at this point. it's he's It's not good. Speaking of things that aren't good for you, I don't know how many videos. I bet you I've watched 15 videos of of just different people being like, the Daily Wire is over. Yeah. and i every time It's the exact same message every time. I'm just like, oh, oh Kyle Kalinske is saying it today.

Speaker: I've also watched... to Just today alone, so Tom Segura and Christina P. today officially are separating. Oh, yeah.

Speaker: Dude, I've watched like seven videos about it today. that's that's I'm going down that rabbit hole big. That's a wild one. Yeah, because they've clearly had a disdain for each other, or maybe Tom's had a disdain for her for a long time.

Speaker: Tom just wants fresh puss, dude. What what a hard man to love. and Oh, can we do a quick story real quick before? Because I saved this because I knew you would love it.

Speaker: All right, but we're going long and I do have to pee. So you have to pause first. Okay. All right. because Because you brought up comedy, it jogged my memory. But so did you hear the story about ah Matt McCusker this week?

Speaker: No. So Matt McCusker, who's part of he's half of Matt and Shane's secret podcast, him and Shane Gillis. Right. Very fun show. I listen to it all the time. But um Matt was on a show called Story Wars, which is like a podcast slash live comedy show on Gas Digital.

Speaker: So it's like Louis J. Gomez and Big J. Ogerson, you know, kind of like they're definitely like, a you know, offensive comedians is pretty raw. It's not my cup of tea necessarily, but like...

Speaker: I hate big Jay Oakerson. I know a lot of people like, I hate him. I hate his vibe. I hate his look. I hate his tone, his attitude, his joke. I hate everything about him.

Speaker: Yeah. hate that guy. I don't really have any feelings about him, I guess. I don't really care about him at all. He just looks like he listens to Papa Roach nonstop. He doesn't like, I just don't like that rocker fucking douchey look. He's so off putting anyway. Sorry. Go ahead. so um,

Speaker: they they They host this show. Story Wars is basically like they have on three different comedians and they give them like a list of subjects ahead of time. And they each submit an anonymous story about this, you know, said topic.

Speaker: So they read yes they read the story and then everybody has to like guess who the who they think is. story that was, you know, and you score points if you win it. Right. It's all right. I've listened to it once or twice, but so it's Matt McCusker. It's a lady. I can't remember what her name is Female comedian.

Speaker: And then this guy who's been like a Kill Tony regular name. It's timmy something Tim something or other, but his character that he does is called Timmy No Breaks.

Speaker: And he's like, the character him is like, he wears sunglasses and a leather jacket, and he's got like a thick jersey accent. And like he's basically doing like the Andrew Dice Clay thing.

Speaker: I just searched Timmy No Breaks, and the first thing that showed is Timmy No Breaks punched. Apparently someone hit him. So they're doing this show, right? Oh, my God. Timmy No Breaks' whole thing is like saying – I'd never heard it. I i don't like Kill Tony, so I don't listen to got it. God, I hate Kill Tony. It's – it's it's Like excruciatingly unfunny at times. Yeah. And it's like it's Tony Hinchcliffe. So like they just like the the way to get noticed on there. It it seems like is one and one of the ways to get noticed on there is just to be like the most offensive person.

Speaker: Yeah. know So this Timmy No Breaks guy like he basically just says like every 12 year old like off putting joke. That's what his whole act is. And the whole time. So like right from the beginning, you could tell like he's on this show. he thinks that this is a moment for him. He's going to like, you know, score some big points with the audience and stuff by just targeting Matt McCusker's wife.

Speaker: ah So his wife, Brittany, is a black lady that is a former Philadelphia cop. Okay. And she's a, she seems like a firecracker and he's like Matt, you know, everything on the show and stuff. I mean, he's like pretty fiercely defensive of her and stuff. You know, she seems, she seems great.

Speaker: And, uh, you know, somebody that can take care of herself. So this Timmy no breaks guy just goes like every chance he gets, he's like, I'm having sex with Matt's wife after the show. Ha ha ha ha ha.

Speaker: And just making like every low brow black joke. You know, the whole time. And it's it's an interesting thing to watch because like I was watching a I think too lazy to try or somebody was talking about it. But like he's clearly stuck in this character that he created that sucks. But he's a yeah new comedian. He has nothing else.

Speaker: You know, yeah and so he just keeps leaning into it. And it's clear from like Matt's body language that he's he's getting pissed off. Like during the show, he's like kind of clammed up a little bit. He's not laughing and he's just getting like more. He's fuming, you know, because he just keeps saying like, it's not even funny. It's just like the most like lowbrow crap. He's from Kill Tony. Of course, he has he's not going to be funny outside. Kill Tony gives you five like gives you what, 60 seconds to be try to be funny. And it's never funny.

Speaker: It's never funny. It's just someone saying something. Fuck. There's funny people on there occasionally, but like the ones that are rewarded are typically like this guy, you know? Yeah. So I like sticks. Yes, exactly. It's a it's a Tony. So.

Speaker: So um it's and it's it's clear like this guy is noticing that it's not landing with Matt, that he's getting upset. Which, embarrassing. Like, you know he's feeling it because he's trying to... Dude, imagine having a shit like that and getting in actually having a seat at the table with real comics and then just knowing you're blowing it.

Speaker: Oh, yeah, id be terrible. It makes me happy. It makes me happy knowing how he feels. So... They go through this whole thing, and it's just progressively more and more awkward. And, ah you know, Matt even makes a comment at one point, and he's like, well, the bit's taken over.

Speaker: yeah You can see the the smile just, like, fade from the guy's face when he says that, because he knows it's true. Like, this is it. Yeah. you know And ah so they finish the show and stuff. They go back in the green room and Matt's wife, Brittany, was in the audience for this show, which probably doesn't happen very often, right?

Speaker: So she meets him in the green room. She walks up to this guy and decks him. Oh, is that that's why it came up as punched? Yeah, she smacked him in the face.

Speaker: No, like stunned him. Like i don if he fell down or what, but like ah I figure it was like Sam Tripoli or somebody was talking about it and he was like, yeah, he was just stunned. He was like, oh, my my jaw hurts. I've never been punched in the face before. And he's like, well, it's clickckering you need that once in a while.

Speaker: Yeah. I just thought that was like the greatest thing ever. It's like she, she could take care of herself. She, ah she put a hurt on him after the fact, which was pretty awesome.

Speaker: i love it People need to get hit for this shit. Like, I know it's like considered a crime to hit people or can be, but like, There is a point at which it's like, it why are we saying that like responding physically? Like you're not taking the person out. You're not just continually. You're not giving him brain damage by wailing on the back of their head or pounding it into cement. Like it's okay to just smack a bitch up. a i mean, it's not.

Speaker: It's really not a good idea at all. But like in this case, go for it. and Yeah, that's what i mean. You earned it. You earned it for sure. You got what you asked for. Just boom boom, bam, done. Yeah. It might create a worse situation. I'm not saying that there won't be repercussions, but...

Speaker: Chud the Builder created a really bad situation because of that sort of thing. Occasionally it's just fine. Occasionally it's just fine to smack someone upside the head.

Speaker: Yeah. Just just ah assess your situation you know and act according. Yeah. Calculate. Which that guy can rot in hell next to Lindsey Graham.

Speaker: Chud the Builder. Along with half the other people who show up on Kill Tony. Well, folks, all right that's it. We kept you long enough, but it's been fun. Join the Discord, and we will talk to you next time.