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Ep. 277 – She’s My Porno & My Best Friend, the Wombo Combo!
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This week we’re discussing a couple of pastors at opposite ends of the country who found themselves in hot water: one for running a bathroom surveillance operation in an unexpected place, and the other for beating the brakes off a young neighbor across the street from his church. Then we’re exploring a new and exciting subreddit that one of you fine people suggested, r/ldssexuality! Research is ongoing, but my preliminary investigation has shown this to be a very different sort of place than the Evangelical subreddits we’re accustomed to. So prepare yourself for new levels of horny religious cringe, and enjoy the show!
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00:00:00
Speaker
Seems like there isn't a lot of places to discuss sexuality, especially in the church.
Sexuality and the Church: A Repressive Environment
00:00:04
Speaker
Yeah, no kidding. They they do a pretty good job at repressing that as well. You're going to love this guy, dude.
00:00:11
Speaker
You're going to love this guy. i want I want you to know that you can have a thrilling, engaging, and passionate, even kinky sex life with your future wife, as well as a strong spiritual base and relationship, complete with fidelity and trust.
00:00:28
Speaker
Before I was married, i was looking forward to being with my insanely beautiful wife. She's like crazy hot. I'm talking Sports Illustrated model hot.
00:00:39
Speaker
And we were best friends as well. The Wombo Combo. you Oh, my
Balancing Spirituality and Sexuality
00:00:44
Speaker
God.
00:00:47
Speaker
I hate this, dude. I hate this.
Introducing 'Growing Up Christian' Podcast
00:01:09
Speaker
Hey everybody, welcome to another episode of Growing Up Christian. I'm Sam. And I'm Casey. And my God, we are so close to turning 250 years old, Casey. We are but a week away, not even. And, um...
00:01:26
Speaker
and to celebrate our great American president put on the Great American Fair. And wow, was that one of the biggest flops in United States history? That was an incredible show of our country's decline into absolute just meaninglessness on the grandstand. I mean, it's on a grandstand.
00:01:50
Speaker
I don't have you. Have you been seeing the pictures floating around about it? like I literally haven't heard anything. i
The Great American Fair: A Symbol of Decline
00:01:56
Speaker
haven't seen anything from it. Well, probably because all of our media is owned by that Ellison's and they've been specifically told not to say anything about it. Right. I mean, dude, Barry Weiss is running cover right now for for the fair attendance. Oh my God. I saw a cool video of vanilla ice with like one person next to him, just kind of wrapping away. Um, there's a, there's another, there's a picture of someone performing on a stage and they, uh, someone zoomed in on his sunglasses. So you could see the reflection to the crowd. And there's like three people in an open field. They're playing to nobody, dude. It's just so funny. He said this visual of like of like Trump in his ill-fitting suit like eating a ah funnel cake like on this Ferris wheel and there's nobody else on it. He just looks sad.
00:02:48
Speaker
that That was his whole his whole purpose behind it was to throw a fare. and just like He really was happy no one was there so he could just roam about and just shove his face with corn dogs and funnel cake and whatever. I mean, dude, it is He's standing up in the Gravitron, but there's nobody there to marvel. What's the one you go in where you just catch flying dollar bills? That's his favorite. Can you just picture picture him in that? Just slow-mo. It would look like like any video of that would look like it was in slow motion.
00:03:20
Speaker
Yeah. It is, dude, that it's, there's like, there's pictures of like three white folding chairs in an empty field with one person sitting in one of the three chairs watching an event. It's an embarrassment. And dude, we were just, we were so close to making it to 250. We were,
00:03:41
Speaker
We almost made it to a quarter of a millennium. You know, we were we it was a good run. It was a good run. ah It's over. I mean, i think that I think the fair is a good microcosm of like where we're at on a global scale.
00:04:00
Speaker
So, yeah, we're done for. It's ah it's been nice. Yeah, definitely in decline. That's for sure. I wouldn't mind falling into obscurity a bit.
A Desire for American Obscurity
00:04:11
Speaker
like When you look at all the other countries who are...
00:04:14
Speaker
just doing like fine you know they're just doing their own thing they don't need a massive army like we don't need this shit let's just fall into obscurity and take care of our own a little bit like that's all i want that's all anybody wants yeah that's all anybody wants no we don't just keep just keep a little bit of the money like here yeah we don't need to be world policing it anymore we can just chill let's just chill Yeah, like you could fix some of the road signs around my house that are just littered with bullet holes. Yeah, that sounds a cancer problem. We would have to partition a certain problem portion of the budget off just to like fill bullet holes in road signs.
00:04:54
Speaker
That is crazy that there's so little like that. That's what teenagers do out by you is just. Does anything sound more fun, though, than like driving and shooting a gun out the window?
00:05:06
Speaker
I mean, it sounds fun. I would like an opportunity to try it someday. Yeah, I really want to see if I can. I would love to know if I could hit something. Once in a while, I see a video of somebody doing that on like a farm or something, and it's like all I want to do. Just Anton Chigurh popping crows off of the stop sign.
00:05:26
Speaker
Did you go to the fair much when you were a kid? Go to the fair? No, not really. We have one out by me. ah It's like not exactly by me, but it's like a big one for my state, which is everything's by you and not. like For you, it'd be like next door, right? It's like a little over an hour away, but that's everything, you know, worth going to for you. Um, it's called the big E and it's cool, man. You get like old washed up rappers, like ludicrous playing there and shit like that. want to go every year. I want to go,
00:05:59
Speaker
um They have, it's just, it's people who were on the radio when we were in middle school who are like, who are playing at the uncle cracker was there like a year or two ago, you know,
The Charm of Local Fairs and Cringe Culture
00:06:11
Speaker
stuff like that. um You want to go get fingered while crowd surfing at the state concert.
00:06:18
Speaker
ah But that's like, then we have like local fairs, right? Like little town fairs that are what you'd expect, just like real townie. The bands are just doing, you know, cover songs of I Love American classics. Nothing...
00:06:36
Speaker
it's it's like uh one step up who's that woman that i always talk about uh who's instagram she's like trying to become a country artist and she's just kind of like middle-aged like all of her videos are crazy low budget yeah yeah kate kate it's i think it begins with c i i don't remember but i like her i believe in her career i she has i want her to be successful Everything looks like it's recorded. Like, it's funny because if you record it on, i like, you can record some good shit on, like, phones now. And it feels like someone's using, like, one of those, like, camcorders from, like, the early 2000s. Like, the kind your dad had when he filmed Christmas.
00:07:18
Speaker
Yeah, there is a point at which, though, it becomes like to be to be middle aged and be too current on like TikTok trend stuff or try to be is is awful. Like the patron the patron state of cringe in 2026 is Bart Wayne Bartlett.
00:07:34
Speaker
You know who that is? He's like a country singing drywall guy from Missouri. Oh, ah yeah. you You put videos of his on our um on our stories, right?
00:07:47
Speaker
Yeah. Dude, every cringe page, like the cring the you know the crappy music subreddit, like... old Bart is all over that thing. And if you, you, everyone listening to this has seen a video of him.
00:08:00
Speaker
Cause he has a song that sounds like definitely AI generated lyrics. And it's like just a boy from misery and I'll be in a misery.
00:08:10
Speaker
And he's always doing like a real, like bouncy sort of like dance while he's doing it. He's got a nice pair of like light, light blue denim boot cut jeans on.
00:08:21
Speaker
Yeah, they are tight, too. Yeah, tight in the top. see his little Bartlett straight through that stretch denim. Dude, um while we're on the on the crappy music conversation, before we shift to the meat of our conversations here, the real heavy-hitting, important stuff that...
00:08:40
Speaker
people come here for. um I found, I did find a new, a new artist on Instagram today. And I do think you'll really, i think you'll really like him and appreciate his, his message.
00:08:56
Speaker
His, ah he's just a he's one of those people who he's an ally is he really is what there's no better way to classify his music than just really going hard, but for the right team, you know?
00:09:10
Speaker
Um, so he's not an axis. No, no, no. So let's, uh, here we go.
Nojo's Music: An LGBTQ+ Ally
00:09:16
Speaker
The biggest homo I know, we all know what you blow. The biggest homo know, we all know what you blow.
00:09:23
Speaker
I got a homosexual friend, he likes a homosexual man. He's a homosexual, now he was a homosexual then. Since when he been gay before the trend. That's my homosexual boy, that's my homosexual twin. yeah Yeah, pretty good. What does this guy look like?
00:09:39
Speaker
ah he's definitely He's a white boy. He goes by Nojo's Music. N-O-J-O-S Music. um And he's got like um kind of like a curly, it looks like a so a permed bowl cut kind of thing going on. OK, I feel like he's got the haircut. I'm trying to think of of a show like he he reminds me of a character from a show that I watch, but I'm really struggling to to place it. But it's yeah, it's like that permed split down the middle cuts off at the just the top of the ears, you know, maybe maybe hides a very, very top of his ears. That sounds bad. I'm trying to picture that. Yeah, he's a but he's an ally. I appreciate how hard he goes for his homosexual friends and how he's just trying to make everyone know that... ah
00:10:28
Speaker
It's cool, right? Yeah, good for him. Homosexual twin. He doesn't care who you blow. Then find out that he's not his other his friend is not out of the closet. Yeah, he just outed. I'm such an ally, I out my friends.
00:10:43
Speaker
I got your back, dude. i like Everybody needs to know. i'm so I'm so ready to ride or die for my friends that I will out them just so I can get in fights with people who have a problem with it.
00:10:56
Speaker
how do ah How did I forget to mention this?
Missed Celebrity Encounters
00:10:59
Speaker
I sent you a picture, but my wife, ah she went to back home to New Jersey for a week, and on her way back, she got stuck in like the Chicago airport for a little while. and She sends me a picture,
00:11:14
Speaker
And she goes, oh, my God, is that him? And sure enough, sitting in the airport in his like ah Jesus Christ cowboy hat, it was serving Mike.
00:11:24
Speaker
Yes, dude. Mike serving. Mike serving. That's right. My bad. Serving the Lord. Mike serving the just not a real fan, I guess. but No, you're opposing. It's fine. I was like, did you go talk to him? Did you get a picture with him? She's like, no, I was in a hurry. I'm like, man. No one's in that much of a hurry. I'm sorry i'm to call your wife out like that. but She could have at least done a, Jesus Christ, we love you God.
00:11:48
Speaker
Yeah. That would have been so sick. I wish she got a picture with him and his autograph, you know? i mean, you can't not recognize him. He has Jesus tattooed across his cheekbone. Like it fills his like entire side of his cheek.
00:12:04
Speaker
Yeah. Shoes of peace. Walking on the escalator. I don't, ah I think we might have talked about this, like, regarding Mike Servant. um andrew Andrew Callahan got baptized by that man, which is incredible.
00:12:24
Speaker
That was such a fun tidbit, yeah. Yeah, it just a little accident, like, hanging out with certain people, ends up getting baptized by Mike Servant. So, go Andrew. We need to get his coming to Jesus story.
00:12:35
Speaker
He's little too... he's a he's a little too little too big for small guys like us. Unfortunately, high profile nowadays. He's a real high profile man, which good for him. Good for him. Yeah. i love that guy.
Misguided Guest Pitches
00:12:50
Speaker
Dude. So I was, I was telling you, I want to read this for our friends. Um, we get a lot of emails, uh, from people who want to have whoever, you know, uh, like network companies that want to pitch guests to us.
00:13:07
Speaker
Um, They usually wrote up. It's usually someone who wrote a book, um maybe started a business, something like that. And occasionally we'll respond like that sounds like a really shitty business idea. We would love to have them on, but more sincere than that, because we do want them on. We just think it's goofy as fuck that they're reaching out to us. um But one of the things they get really tired of is um like just that canned like, like,
00:13:35
Speaker
They didn't do any research. They don't know who they're emailing. It's just, you know, they're pulling keywords and just sending the same email off to everybody. And it's probably just auto generating podcast names and whatever names are associated with the podcast online. So we got one that said...
00:13:52
Speaker
Hi, Sam. I hope you're doing well. I recently came across Growing Up Christian podcast and really appreciate your honest conversations about faith, spiritual growth, and navigating the challenges of living as a Christian in today's world. Yeah. Your your mission of helping believers mature in their faith and develop a deeper relationship with Christ really stood out to me.
00:14:12
Speaker
And I always ignore those. We get those couple times a week. um And I just don't respond. But... occasionally those same people will follow up. Uh, so she responds again. I wanted to follow up my previous email. Uh, I think this person be a great fit for your podcast, blah, blah, blah.
00:14:30
Speaker
And so then just rehashes the same. These are some of the talking points that we could have. Like, Why repentance is an important part of growing in Christ. How believers can move from surface level faith into deeper spiritual maturity. Like, I can't think of anything more boring. Like, give me something cringe to talk about. Real cringe. Not just like typical, like, that's cringe now to us, but like the real shit that's going to be fun to like, you know, like make fun of in a subversive way. But...
00:14:59
Speaker
Um, I just got like, i was just annoyed about shit that night and, uh, I just decided to respond and I said, uh, but I just, I didn't hear back. I don don't know why I didn't hear back. I really think we provide, I provided a good option and opportunity for a doctor, whoever, Dr. Jones, um,
00:15:19
Speaker
I said, hello, your first paragraph in your original email indicated that you only recently came across our podcast based on nothing other than keywords and assumptions about what we are. Our mission is not to help believers grow deeper in their faith, as my co-host and I are both apostates.
00:15:35
Speaker
If Dr. Jones would like to come on the podcast, it would be an environment that would not give the benefit of the doubt to any Christian premises at all. We will talk mostly to anybody, but due to the fact that our podcast is mainly comedy slash entertainment, for those who grew up in the faith and left it, she wouldn't be met with a level of seriousness your email leads me to believe that she would expect.
00:15:56
Speaker
We frequently criticize Christianity and engage in frequent crude humor, obscene language, and tasteful blasphemy. However, if you believe this is a space you would like to engage, we welcome her on the show. Otherwise, please actually do modicum amount of research for the podcast you not only pitch, but follow up on before reaching out. The cast the whole cast-of-wide-net approach is getting really cumbersome on our email, and this has become a very frequent issue. Thank you so much for your time.
00:16:22
Speaker
Yeah. Also, have you been to a thrift store lately? Your book is already there. yeah It hasn't been released yet. There's a carbon copy of it already there. It's 30 copies next to the Tim LaHaye section. It's bad when ah thrift stores have pre-orders from companies that ah like sell overstock books. It's pretty...
00:16:46
Speaker
You it kind of gets me thinking. I wonder what, has anybody checked on Josh Harris lately? No. ah Yes. I see stuff from him pop up in my feed from time to time.
00:16:57
Speaker
Has anybody been mad at him in a couple months? No, he's, ah I think he's successfully made it through the other side. Oh. Oh, good for him. He was kind of like the Brendan Schaub of ex-evangelicalism for a while. He was. Now, um who's the other guy we had on the the singer-songwriter? um That's, oh my God. I know. It's insane that I'm blanking on his name because he's got a cool the one ah cool thing going right now. um Oh my God.
00:17:28
Speaker
He's selling. Now that we pause to ah so so Sam could Google Cademan's call. so I didn't know you unpaused it. I had to look it up. i didn't want to waste everybody's time. i did not know you unpaused.
00:17:41
Speaker
ah I could remember the band he was in, but I was blanking his name. Derek Webb is, um he is selling for $20 this little piece of thing you stick at the bottom of your guitar so you don't have to palm mute.
00:17:54
Speaker
I thought that was hilarious.
00:17:57
Speaker
Boy, what a serious businessman he is. I know. Serious about everything, all of his endeavors. I don't. mean, just a serious man. As soon as people start selling shit on Instagram, like, I just stop respecting you. Like, I don't, at some point we'll sell something and you guys can all stop respecting us too. But like. I sell something every day.
00:18:20
Speaker
Your integrity. Just not to you people.
00:18:24
Speaker
But like, I just like that. Like if it's related to your brand, like I don't, I don't care. Like if if someone made t-shirts or whatever, like cool, sell t-shirts. But like you you didn't innovate palm. Like you, what do we, what? It's like this little thing for twenty like 20 bucks to like, so you don't have to learn how to palm you to guitar when you play. It's just kind of,
00:18:46
Speaker
goofy to me and i feel like they already came up with maybe they have similar things it's just like the ah it's like pretending you invented a capo at this point like you can someone have done that yeah look if it's related to your brand then like you know go off king you do you if it's related to derrick webb then i all all i can say is pu that stinks derrick sucks he is He is a nutsack, and I really didn't like talking to him.
00:19:21
Speaker
We're far enough removed now. yeah People are going to tag him and shit, and it's just going to be uncomfortable for me who likes to avoid conflict, but thank you. You know where would be a good place to work this out, Derek? In some horrible music. Why don't you do what you do best? Oh, my God.
00:19:41
Speaker
ah
Invasion of Privacy: The Michigan Pastor Scandal
00:19:43
Speaker
ah Well, um it's a busy news cycle here lately. I mean, strictly speaking of ah church related news, I so.
00:19:57
Speaker
There's a story that caught my attention that i was a I was like, okay, something's going on here. I want to i want to ah i want to talk to Sam about this.
00:20:07
Speaker
um So this is from the Roy's Report. Good website. o The headline is, Michigan pastor charged with six felonies in hidden camera case.
00:20:18
Speaker
Okay. And he is ah he's a pastor at Resurrection Life Church, or Res Life, if you prefer. Okay. They sometimes do it that way. I would have preferred erection life, but that's just me. It's a good point. and Yeah, that would have been more that would have been more true to form for this guy, think.
00:20:40
Speaker
So this is an odd story because, yes, there's a man with a hidden camera, which you know has probably played out a lot in ah over the years in churches. But this one caught my attention for like...
00:20:52
Speaker
the vague strangeness of it. So it says a former co-pastor of Resurrection Life Church in Holland, Michigan, faces six felony charges after a third authorities alleged he secretly recorded an adult family member with a hidden camera.
00:21:06
Speaker
An adult family member. That's something you don't hear every day. His attorney, so this is damage control, right? His attorney said the allegations involve only his wife and have no connection to the Western Michigan Church or its members.
00:21:21
Speaker
Oh, okay. So he's filming his wife. ye that's what that's what it feels like. It feels like he he's filming his wife.
00:21:33
Speaker
Dude, what i can already I already know how this played out. He asked his wife if she would send him nudes at work, and she said no. And he didn't like that because he's a pastor and he's in control, and no one says no to the pastor.
00:21:50
Speaker
So he had to find a way to get nudes of his wife while he was at work. Wouldn't it ah be hilarious if it turned out that she was, like, fucking one of the congregants in his bed, you know? But then it would pertain to somebody else, right? Then it would be about... so I hope she was just, like... I hope, like, she pulled out... You know how, like, in... um when you're watching like a thriller and there's an assassin and they get into that hotel room. That's like on the the top floor when they're setting up to, to take someone out and on the bed, they just like open this giant case and just have to assemble their, their weapon. Oh yeah. hope She has a similar case, but it was just full of sex toys. and
00:22:39
Speaker
Or like in a horror movie before they dissect somebody and they just like, like, like, like a towel, like rolling out. They're just like, yeah, like the tool roll full of like gory knives. Yeah, yeah. But it's just like, it's just the wildest sex toys you've ever seen. And he just thought he was going to get some like tasteful nudes of his wife taking a piss. ah And it didn't. It changed his life forever in a way that he wasn't expecting. Yeah.
00:23:04
Speaker
so He was wondering why her pelvic floor had gotten so low. Or high? Deep? I don't know. It sags over time, I think, yeah. His four-inch wiener wasn't hitting the pelvic floor anymore, and he wasn't sure why.
00:23:21
Speaker
It's kind of like if your if your basement floods, you know, and the pergo swells, like that sort of thing. Joshua Vander Klock, 48, faces three counts of surveilling an unclothed person and three counts of using a computer to commit a crime. Court records show a family member contacted local authorities with charges subsequently authorized June 10th in Michigan's 58th District Court in Hudsonville. Vander Klock was arraigned June 12th and remains free on $1,000 cash bond pending proceedings. That's so low.
00:23:55
Speaker
That's like $0 in today's economy. That's crazy. Dude, if you have a if you have a bail that low, you should run but just on principle. yeah it' just You're already in Western Michigan. like Just run for the border. It's true. what do you Oh, someone someone lost a thousand. Not even a thousand. You lose like half of that. so yeah Someone's out $500 for your lame ass. Who gives a shit? yeah That's White's only bond. Yeah.
00:24:24
Speaker
It is. if this is we know if this is a black guy, it'd be like one million dollars bail.
Speculating Intentions in the Pastor's Scandal
00:24:29
Speaker
And he'd be stuck there. According to reports by a TV station and ABC affiliate in Grand Rapids and news website, MLive.com investigators with the Ottawa County Sheriff's Office begin investigating after an adult family member reported finding a small back black camera hidden beneath a bed. Authorities later obtained a search warrant and alleged the camera had been positioned toward the doorway of a private bathroom.
00:24:54
Speaker
What? um Court testimony cited by investigators says that the camera's memory card contained images of the alleged victim unclothed on multiple occasions. During a June 10th probable cause hearing, an investigator testified Vander Klock admitted to placing the camera because it gave him a connection to the alleged victim.
00:25:12
Speaker
who i We don't get to know who the... like I thought when it was adults you got to know. I thought you got to know that shit. I don't know. And his attorney says that it's only his wife is involved. So I think his wife, he was filming his wife without her consent in the bathroom and she turned him in.
00:25:34
Speaker
i coed I think his wife had been looking for a divorce for long I think she knew it was there. I think she knew it was there. And she intentionally walked in front of this thing naked countless times just so she could send her dumb ass husband to prison. I hope, I hope, I feel like, uh,
00:25:50
Speaker
this To call back to our last episode, or the little ah our little honeypot game, this is a great add-on to the business. is like you can If you want out, just plant the idea. We'll provide the camera setup. You just go you just kind of make it you kind of find a way to make it happen without like giving your consent. you know That's all you got to do. and yeah Your husband will set it up, and then, boom.
00:26:19
Speaker
We get 10% of just however much you get in the divorce. I think that's fine. Yeah, the civil suit. Yeah, we we we take a we take a we skim a small percentage of your alimony.
00:26:32
Speaker
Yeah, nothing. Dude, that's easy. And his alimony is going to be pretty good. He's a pastor, so we know he's making six figures doing nothing. It's funny because his like ah defense attorney, she's like, you know, where're we're in we're committed to ensuring the facts are presented accurately and blah, blah, blah. We won't discuss any details of the report.
00:26:51
Speaker
But then says, however, we can confirm that the alleged offenses do not involve any activity at any Res Life Church location. The allegations do not involve a child or any other member of the church. And you have to be very specific about that in today's day and age.
00:27:06
Speaker
Because 99.9% chance it involved the child. So you have to rule that one out for, for the public. Yup. Yeah. Yeah. It's a, it's, it's a reasonable, uh, dissemination of information. I think if you're defending a pastor in any regard, first things first, no children, zero.
00:27:29
Speaker
Okay. So, yeah. so you got a, a peeping Tom. He's a, just Just getting a peek, you know? he Look, it's honestly, it's his God-given right.
00:27:42
Speaker
What are we taking in that? why we that's that's the This is why Christianity is under attack, bro. They just want to, they're trying to take away his dominion over his wife.
00:27:53
Speaker
And this shouldn't be happening in Trump's America. Yeah. he You have to submit the three Ps to your husband, which is – Pussy? Your person, your your poop, and your pee. The last one is just a pee. Okay.
00:28:14
Speaker
i could I should have thought that joke out a little further. i i thought do it i I legit thought there was an actual three. I thought there was a real three piece thing that you might have learned in our in your time in evangelicalism because it the everything was alliterate. Everything was like, ah you know, four points.
00:28:35
Speaker
the The three R's, the three, whatever. Like that that was a very common mechanism, which is why you went there. yeah It's a good public speaking tactic. You you always think in threes.
00:28:47
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. It makes people think you thought about this longer than 20 minutes before you're on stage. Well, I tried to go back and find some of his, ah like, I figured, oh, I can find some clips of him saying insane stuff.
00:29:02
Speaker
But I looked through some of their shorts on YouTube, the Res Life Church ah YouTube channel, and it's just... It's just boring. It's boring.
00:29:12
Speaker
There's just nothing there that's interesting at all. It's like it just reminded me immediately of like how many sermons I sat through that I remember absolutely nothing about. Yeah, it just just the meta.
00:29:26
Speaker
This is the Christian meta. Yeah. So that was a good one. There was also like a pretty, ah a pretty a story that made the rounds last week um about a pastor who was arrested for beating up his 20 year old neighbor.
00:29:44
Speaker
Yeah. In
Neighbor Feuds: Louisiana Pastor's Arrest
00:29:45
Speaker
Louisiana. Yeah. The video on it is wild. This is the one we were talking about ye that you sent me the video for, right? Yeah. The video is crazy. Oh, oh, nevermind. I was trying to remember something along the lines of the video, but yeah, the video is crazy. It's like the, the pastor crosses the street. Allegedly it was like, he's saying that the kid threatened to like rape and murder his family. Um, yeah.
00:30:11
Speaker
Yeah. So like, look, if everything that guy was saying was true and there was no other like if it was just a a kid who had a bone to pick with evangelicals and just went off like that, like I would I would say the guy. Yeah, you're going to face some legal repercussions, but you could understand that to a degree, the reaction the guy had.
00:30:35
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But it sounds like there's more of the story. Yeah. Yeah. And like most of the details are not very interesting. So first off, Tony Spell is the pastor. He's a pastor of Life Tabernacle Church in Baton Rouge. and yeah Churches really have like they're trying to.
00:30:53
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The attempted innovation for for church names is just it sucks. It says forgettable as a sermon. Yeah. Pretty boring.
00:31:05
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Yeah. and And like so it's a Pentecostal church and it seems like they this guy's been he was he craves like public spotlight like he wants to be a high. Well, he's a Pentecostal. Visible person. These so Pentecostals don't have measured responses to things. That is very true. There's about some pig Latin at you from across the road, you know. You should have bought a Honda, dude.
00:31:37
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There's a, so looking through some of the like articles and stuff on this, what it looks like is this. So the pastor lives next door to the church. Yeah. And the people that he's feuding with live across the street. He basically, yeah, he he doesn't, he doesn't understand what it's like to have to pay for housing in this, in these trying times. He gets the parish. Nice.
00:32:00
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Yeah, absolutely. That's a good point. Yeah. Just one more point of disconnect from actual reality that his congregants face. But I mean, why else would you be, I mean, that's being a pastor, right? It's just a complete disconnect from the reality that the people in your congregation are facing.
00:32:16
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So the this family lives across the street from the church and from the pastor, and it sounds like they've hated each other for a long time. They have history of disputes flipping each other off. And they're you know, they claim that that this the pastor and his wife claim that this guy like follows them around and stuff that he installed surveillance cameras to surveil them in the church.
00:32:41
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there was big Are they on his property? Because they should be okay. but If they love America, they should be fine with that. Yeah. So this guy kind of like gained some national notoriety a little bit as being like, this is the the church that never closed during COVID.
00:32:59
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He actually like was arrested and sentenced and then got the case thrown out by the ah by the Louisiana Supreme Court or whatever for defying COVID restrictions and you know having large gatherings during the pandemic.
00:33:15
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And he's just everything that you would figure. It's like tacky suits. There's pictures of him and his wife with assault rifles and this and that. Just just the ah cut and paste culture war doofus, you know. And the neighbors hate him.
00:33:33
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And even during COVID, they were like very upset with him for having these gatherings and it just sounds like it's neighborly disputes that have taken on like several different forms over the years they just hate each other see and they missed an opportunity though because what they should have done is band together to contract covid and then start going to that church you know beat them at their own game dude i don't know just beat them at their own game The idea that that COVID was the what was going to get to these people first is hilarious when you consider how much heart disease there probably is in that congregation. Yeah.
00:34:09
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But this guy, so it's a messy situation because, you know, the pastor's claiming that they threatened his kids and his wife and they're going to rape and murder him and stuff like that. But the neighbor actually, his so the kid's father actually gave an interview like during COVID with some French news outlet that was reporting on the fact that they were defying COVID orders and stuff like The kid who got beat?
00:34:34
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The kid who got beat? His dad. That kid lived with his parents, and they were that's the neighbor situation. Yeah, so he's 20 now. So this was back in 2020, so he would have been 14 or whatever. But yeah the father, in this interview with a French news outlet, actually said something like, oh, if I had a Kalashnikov...
00:34:55
Speaker
And his wife like slapped him and she's like, oh, come on, Jim or whatever, you know, don't say that. But I don't, what's a Kalashnikov? It's an AK 47. Oh, but so he's made threats. So he's a Russian ah sleeper agent is what I'm hearing. Maybe so. Yeah, maybe so. Maybe he's one of those Iranian sleeper cells that we've all heard about. Never seen any evidence of. Yeah. I'm sure we'll be seeing more about them soon.
00:35:23
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Yeah, but when it's real convenient.
00:35:28
Speaker
good Dude, if you're on the false flag planning committee at at Langley, you've got to be sweating bullets right now because ain't nobody buying that.
00:35:40
Speaker
Nobody's buying anything. anyway Dude, even Republicans are like going back and watching old footage of shit, and they're like, I don't know. This guy's kind of... a liar i guess like maybe we should revisit some of his attempted assassinations i mean allegedly there was one that took place during the ufc fight it was drones uh i did see a little more on that i'm still skeptical uh but like my god it just can we have an event where someone doesn't where they don't pretend that trump gets assassinated at this point yeah if these are real like you guys need to get your get your act together i'm surprised that uh
00:36:20
Speaker
like Make a better attempt, at least. I'm surprised that at the Great American Fair, they didn't try to do some weird ah sort of false flag on, you know, Trump, like on falafel attempting to assassinate Donald Trump or some shit like that. Yeah, mix some anthrax in with the elephant ear, like powdered sugar or something.
00:36:44
Speaker
It... It has to stop. We can't we can't we can't sustain another. i don't think this country can sustain another false flag attack. I really i don't.
00:36:54
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I think it'll just collapse into complete disorder if we have. So someone needs to do it for real. you know don't None of this pretend bullshit. Yeah. And don't like actually do it. No, don't. There's too, it's too dangerous to talk about these kinds of things, even in jest because our, our freedom of speech is being taken away. right So, yeah, so there's, I don't know how much there is to really go over with this thing. So according to, according to the pastor, what the guy said was, uh, Tony, I'm going to rape your wife. I'm going to rape all your grandchildren. It's so agreeable. I just don't buy that someone just straight up said that.
00:37:36
Speaker
He said, the next time you go out of town, I'm going to kill them. And what the F are you going to do about it? i mean, there's a 20 year old kid that's had to live next to this guy for the pet his entire childhood.
00:37:48
Speaker
You know, when your brain isn't fully developed, like considering when two kids that when kids are like on Xbox Live playing Call of Duty, they make those kinds of threats. It's possible that a kid said that it's possible, but I don't know.
00:38:04
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ah The police seem to dispute the notion that that was what happened. Who knows? I don't know. This is just like feuding morons. It's like ah it's it's ah you know, it's like housing commission garbage type stuff. I do think we need like a 24 to pick this up ah with like as like a horror and not I mean a thriller, like an escalating thriller comedy.
00:38:32
Speaker
um That would be. Yeah. Yeah. It's like Red State. That's a movie you should watch. yeah I don't know how well Kevin Smith movies hold up at this point. It seems like they probably have a, ah you know, of,
00:38:44
Speaker
a gut-wrenching millennial twinge to him. The only Kevin movies that hold up for me are Kevin Spacey films. but That's the only Kevin you recognize? Yep.
00:38:56
Speaker
And Kevin McAllister. Well, that's fair. Yeah, everybody. Yeah, so the last thing on this. So um in his like little press conference he gave you know after the fact, he says, the truth will come out in court. Then Spell added, I'm heading to the pulpit now. I've got a red-hot sermon ready.
00:39:17
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In the church service that night. The of the Lord burning in his belly. Yeah. In the church service that night, he said, domestic but domestic terrorism is tolerated in our day. He also said Mark 16, 18 had been fulfilled.
00:39:31
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Quote, in my name, they shall lay hands on the sick and they shall recover. Spell said, quoting the verse, I laid hands on the sick. I don't know how much recovery they're going to have, but I laid hands on the sick.
00:39:42
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Oh, he's bragging about being the shit of a 20 year old. Yeah. What embarrassing this. That's actually embarrassing. Yeah.
00:39:53
Speaker
Yeah. And ah and there's definitely like ah he'll get what he wants out of this. There'll be a big round of like morons that are like, oh, that's what I do, too. No. I mean, and then he's going to be like, he'll he'll he'll pump the give online button on their Instagram and YouTube. It'll it'll it'll be fine for this guy. I mean, he survived covid.
00:40:17
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One of the shorts upon him, you know? Yeah. That's a feed in and of itself. One of the YouTube shorts that I saw was like him making a, it was like from last year and it was him making an announcement about the Tony spell gospel trio or something, releasing their album online.
00:40:35
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called The Church That Never Closes. And he's he's in the most like boomer fashion ever. It's a digital, you know it's a streaming.
00:40:46
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And he' so he has printed out a copy of the album artwork. And it occupies like like a quarter of a of an 8.5 by 11 page, and he's holding it up for the camera. And he's like, now this is something you're going to be able to listen to it on the internet.
00:41:03
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And this is what you're going to – you'll see this right here when you click on it. And that's that's our gospel album. It's some of our best songs. Just like, oh man. Good God. That sucks to high heaven.
00:41:17
Speaker
they' they're uh pressing vinyl for it even during shortage they're hand numbering them ye yep so oh all the best to tony we wish him well but uh can i give you uh a ah reddit that caught my eye reddit post that caught my eye today So excited when you get really excited, might I know when you're really excited about something that it's going to have a a peculiar slant to it.
00:41:49
Speaker
This one's like a little bit low hanging fruit. There's some that like Reddit just, you know, gives me a notification that they got posted and it's immediate. It's like an immediate click. And this one is in the Christian marriage subreddit. It says husband pressuring me to swallow.
00:42:04
Speaker
Oh, my God. Yeah.
Consent Issues in Marriage
00:42:08
Speaker
This poor lady, dude. You know what? he I'm guessing the comments are all like, he's clearly watching tons of porn where women swallow.
00:42:17
Speaker
oh absolutely. It says, this is a very embarrassing thing to talk about. My husband for years wants me to swallow.
00:42:27
Speaker
I perform ora oral, but I just do not like to swallow. It's very fair. Very fair. I mean, It's more than fair. It's... I wouldn't want... I mean, i If you wouldn't do it yourself, you know, it's a real do unto others situation. I think in bed where if she was like, look, I'll start doing it. If you do it first, then let's see how that plays out. I would like, um be that'd be cool to see how that played out.
00:42:55
Speaker
Yeah. He'd probably do it really fast. would i like he he's a that's he hed He'd go full RFK about it. Be like, I'll do it if I can, if I can vouch for it. You
00:43:12
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did do a better RFK impression. game arent you going to eat that? ah he goes He goes, five second rule. Waste not, want not.
00:43:34
Speaker
Ugh.
00:43:37
Speaker
So she i just do not like to swallow. And when I say I don't feel ready for that right now, he flips out. He says he's going to stop doing oral on me because of this. He says I'm selfish. Crazy. the Oh, my God. He kept me up until 1 a.m. m telling me how I should be willing to do it according to the Bible and that it's good for me.
00:43:58
Speaker
Why is it good for her? Builds character. Is he giving her the old it whitens your teeth line? Yeah. it's like It's like doing any chore, dude. It just builds character. I don't know. curbs hunger pains. This is nature's Monjaro.
00:44:19
Speaker
It's like it just builds resilience. I told him he's pressuring me and I feel uncomfortable. He disregards that and says he's not pressuring me. All he did was ask and that I'm the one who freaked out. I said kindly, not this time. And then he flipped. I tried to be very gentle about the subject because I don't want him to feel rejected.
00:44:41
Speaker
After he was berating me about how wrong I am, I blew up and cussed at him. do you have any advice on this? And could you pray for me? I'm so anxious today after that. Plus, he blames it on my sexual trauma and asks when I'm going to get healed from that. I told him he's literally re-traumatizing me doing exactly what they did, pressuring and manipulating me to do the things I do not want to.
00:45:03
Speaker
This got way less funny, dude. You fucked it up. Yeah, dude. I feel bad for this lady. Yeah, that's crazy. horrible that's He's a bad person. Honestly, you just need to file for divorce at this point. like He's not getting better. He's only going to get worse over time.
00:45:20
Speaker
i was I was reading this to April earlier and she's like, what's weird about that is it's like after he's, it's like after he's finished, like, isn't the spell broken at that point? Like why you know what happens afterwards? Yeah.
00:45:33
Speaker
The post not clarity kicks in. Yeah. Shouldn't the little, like the little dark cloud of shame be hanging over you at that point. And you go, oh I'm sorry that i did that to you. Thank you for, thank you for doing that with me. But, uh, you know, ah I'm sorry. Yeah.
00:45:48
Speaker
I just, ah there's some of these that i I can't, I have to chime in. And I just told her I was like, you should just ah agree to meet in the middle at biting.
00:46:01
Speaker
My microphone just completely fell off my stand here. Give me one second. Well, thoughts that was great. I was like, why is my mic getting lower and lower? Like I felt like I she kept readjusting it.
00:46:15
Speaker
And that, dude, I'm going to bless up for that one. going to thank the Lord because i I saw that right before it happened. This thing could have just hit the ground, but ah I got a little, i got my ears were were tickled by the spirit of the Lord, and i knew, dude. I knew was about to go down. Your spidey sense went off. It did. That's the Holy Spirit, bro.
00:46:39
Speaker
Well, um yeah, there was a couple of other ones that I that I picked out earlier in the week that, ah ah dude, I just I hate some of these people on Reddit. There's some of them are so annoying.
Judgmental Advice on Attractiveness
00:46:53
Speaker
There's a couple of people that like I see commenting on a lot of these Christian subreddits, you know, and like they're just so irritating.
00:47:01
Speaker
There was there was one. um where it was like this lady was asking about, you know, she's like, I'm trying to date and I'm just not having a lot of luck. Like, you know, what do you recommend I do to like like in the meantime while I'm looking for something? And this one guy is like his name is Baryan Christian and he pops up all the time.
00:47:27
Speaker
Oh, that's his Reddit name. Oh, he's a top one percent commenter. That's. Oh, wow. He's got. All sorts of advice for everybody. Yeah. But i mean, he, he seems like a real tell it like it is guy. Yeah. And you know, one of his suggestions was, uh, you know, get more attractive.
00:47:48
Speaker
They all have very strong feelings. I like these people. Is this clavicular? This is like Christian subreddit name? Maybe so. But I like these people who approach attractiveness as if it's like a math equation.
00:48:03
Speaker
Right. And they always like quote studies and stuff like that. Christian looks maxing. Yeah, so like that's one of the things he suggests, and then he links to another post that he had made where he really lays out like his attractiveness rules. So he says... this guy This guy needs to be in a watch list.
00:48:23
Speaker
He says, there's several layers to attraction. Here's a general list that isn't comprehensive, but gives a general idea of what you can work on. He seems like real multi-layered person.
00:48:34
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah, each layer stinks a little bit more. Yeah, like it's just classic onion.
00:48:43
Speaker
ah Facial features. The only one that is unchangeable for most, really, unless you are overweight or obese and lose weight and your face will become more attractive. Okay. Fitness level. Most Christians don't expect some professional athlete, but being active and having muscle usually improves your chances for both men and women. Does guy have any pictures on Reddit of himself? You know he's a schlub. You know this guy looks like shit.
00:49:10
Speaker
Yeah, this is projection, dude. You know, this guy is an absolute fucking monster. He's like, no, he's like Brendan Fraser in the whale. Yeah, he's definitely got something going on He like talks about his body fat percentage at some point here, I think. Oh, God. Steward that temple of the Holy Spirit.
00:49:30
Speaker
Body fat percentage. Getting out of the overweight slash obese range. Body shape. For women, improving hourglass shape, waist-to-hip ratio. For men, improving V-taper, shoulder-to-waist ratio. For women, usually 0.7 WHR is considered best, but 0.6 to 0.8 is a good range. For men, the Greek... Dude, I take it back. He's not...
00:49:55
Speaker
He's an actual gym bro monster that's a piece of shit. and I think he's married too. Oh my i think he mentions being married at some point in some post that I saw of his. And he's all up on this trying to help other people. like What are you doing? dude Just mind your own business and live your own life you fucking freak.
00:50:13
Speaker
Yeah and it's just so bizarre to like have all these like figures and stuff worked out. I mean is it really that complicated? like and And on top of that there's not hard and fast rules for what's attractive.
00:50:27
Speaker
And it's not trying to be all like body positivity, whatever. It's just people like all sorts of different things. Like, and I'll tell you this, you know, most Christian guys that I know were pretty happy that any woman paid attention to them at all.
00:50:44
Speaker
Yeah. yeah know So most Christian guys I know were just wanted a woman who wanted to serve the Lord. Right. Yeah, that is so chris going Christian, uh, going any Christian subreddit. That's the most important thing to them.
00:50:58
Speaker
That's what you have to state at the beginning before you start laying out your real criteria. That's the first thing they talk about. If, even if they're like having relationship trouble, it's like we, when we, our relationship started off, but the thing I was most attracted to was how passionate they were about their faith in Jesus Christ. And you're like, dude, they always say that kind of stuff and it's just, yeah just I love it point when somebody says that sort of thing and then the rest of their post clear, like very clearly communicates that this person never has a thought about anyone but themselves ever. yeah yeah
00:51:33
Speaker
ah For men, the Greek God type of physique, similar to Michelangelo's David seems to get the top of the bell curve response. Interesting that he's worried about like the Greek god like Zeus and all that, but not so concerned about how um a lot of goddesses were portrayed, which were quite voluptuous. Yeah. Yeah, and why are you looking at Greek gods their penis out?
00:51:58
Speaker
hi Huh? They got everything right, but how small the pecker was. Everything else was pretty awesome, but I, for one, think Biggerdick is much better.
00:52:11
Speaker
Or the opposite. He's just roided out and he's got tiny little shriveled balls and he's like, big dicks are vulgar and disgusting. yeah He's like, it should not be touching the uvula.
00:52:25
Speaker
and Style of dress. Modesty is a loaded term, so actual styles for both men and women that are good typically fall into the classy, sophisticated, and business casual range. You can Google image these for both sexes to see what that looks like. For women, this is usually skirts and sundress type clothing. For men, this is usually business casual or level below and must have a good fit.
00:52:47
Speaker
Dude, he wears like 10-inch inseam shorts with like a goofy-ass golf polo tucked into him and boat shoes. Yeah, you got to have one of those like the the the golf trash bag things that old wear. Full disclosure, I wear boat shoes. I wear them all the time.
00:53:08
Speaker
I love them. Are you even licensed for that? You don't have a you don't have a boat. I don't, but you can you can wear them in like... I might be splitting hairs here. i got Look, I get made fun of by the kids that I work with They're like, why do you always wear those shoes?
00:53:24
Speaker
um not wearing they're all out there wearing like a fresh pair of Nikes and I'm getting fucking shoe mogged by a fucking first grader. I can sniff out a fraud like you from a mile away. I would just walk straight up to you and be like, you, are sir, are no Mariner. No, you can tell I'm not because I wear them like ah I wear them like just any old just ah it's um'm like it's like a ah hipster that grew up like mine are dirty as fuck. The soles are worn out.
00:53:53
Speaker
They're faded. Like, OK, they're comfortable. It's like wearing slippers. I love them. I love them. But when you, you know, the guy who wears them when they're like crisp and clean, they like, they re oil them every night kind of thing. You're like, what this it looks too, it looks, it's like it's like, it's trying to be a dress shoe, but it's not. Look, I could talk for a really long time about the various ways to wear boat shoes. So you, that sounds really interesting. Cool or not. Yeah, but I know it's not. So we're moving on. right. Okay. All I want to say is I made fun of this motherfucker for clearly probably wearing boat shoes. I wear them. I wear a nice pair of leather Sperry's at least 50% of the year. Okay.
00:54:34
Speaker
okay And the closest you get to the high seas is like changing your tampon in the Long John Silver's bathroom. ah ah Yeah, the rest of this is boring. Get out of here.
00:54:48
Speaker
Don't care. um We had a listener suggestion, though, that I i i took to heart. I asked you guys, I said, hey, if you see something...
00:54:59
Speaker
that's particularly absurd or cringe-worthy, send it my way tell me where to go. i am ready for it. And ah we had a listener suggest the LDS sexuality
Exploring LDS Sexuality Perspectives
00:55:12
Speaker
subreddit.
00:55:12
Speaker
very obscure um it you forget about these other segments of christianity and i will call them christian i'm not i am no longer so far up on my high horse where i can't refer to them as christian because christian is as arbitrary as you want it to be baby you can be anything you want and call it christian including the lds subreddit
00:55:43
Speaker
You can be a ah failed ah failed business tycoon steak salesman, you know, holding public office and call yourself a Christian. You could be a furry. You could be Chet Hanks.
00:55:56
Speaker
you could I mean, it really is. hey It's all over the place You could be mid crypto rug pull and talk about how you're a Christian. You can do it all. It's the most versatile, uh, adjective available, uh, when you're trying to flee somebody.
00:56:13
Speaker
It's great. Well, I have to say, I wasn't sure. I figured the LDS sexuality subreddit would be a little more of the same, you know, soaking things like that. It's a different world over there.
00:56:25
Speaker
Yeah. They have different, their whole sexual ethic is different. Huh? I wasn't prepared for it. And i'm I'm not a frequent traveler yet, but I'm definitely going to be spending some time in here sniffing out the good posts.
00:56:38
Speaker
One of the first ones I clicked on, though, says a Florida trip story time. And it says, my wife and I, along with a few other couples from our ward, went on a trip down to Florida, us being from Colorado, had had to opportunity to see my wife along along a few other wives from church in bathing suits. I told my wife I can't stop thinking about it. And I enjoy looking at some of the pictures from the trip. Cough, cough, especially the ones the girls took together at the beach.
00:57:10
Speaker
Oh, um hold on. So his thing is, Amar, has he seen his wife in a bathing suit before?
00:57:23
Speaker
I don't know. i mean yeah He's ready to go buck wild, though. I imagine he's seen her naked. ah It must have just been her in a bathing suit with other people. in there like It was a very free environment that he's not used to being around. was very, or shall I say, normal environment that he wasn't used to being around.
00:57:43
Speaker
I think he's testing the waters a little here. Yeah. For the threesome, foursome, fivesome situation. Some of the comments were interesting too, because this is just not something you will find in the, in the, you know, our frequent visited subreddits.
00:58:00
Speaker
Uh, one says, sounds like your wife is cool with you checking them out like that. Wait, wait, wait. That's the end of it. That's the, that he ended on cough, cough. Yep. Oh, yeah. He says she is a good sport in the sense that she accepts that we find other people attractive.
00:58:15
Speaker
Another guy says pictures from the girls only beach trips are always great. Another guy, Florida can be a fun place to break loose some and get them wearing smaller bikinis or none in the right situation. Another guy says in this day, just have her take nude poses for you. It makes my wife feel sexy.
00:58:36
Speaker
Oh, What? i'm telling you, this is a much different place. This is a whole new world. ah yeah so i So this guy has never seen other women in a bathing suit before.
00:58:53
Speaker
I think it's particularly women that he knows, his friends' wives and stuff that he's excited so they all go to Florida, he sees them, and now he's got all these cut like cuck scenarios in his head where they like pass off each other's wives and shit.
00:59:07
Speaker
Yeah. Why post it on Reddit? There's not that much substance here. no i is he like depression level must be at like critical mass for him to like this guy for to come to Reddit, to share that he liked seeing his wife in a bikini with her friends or a bathing suit. I don't know what kind of bathing suits they're wearing. He doesn't even specify. He liked seeing his wife in a bathing suit with her friends who are in bathing suits. And that, that just like blew open the door to a whole new world for him. Yeah.
00:59:42
Speaker
If I had to speculate, I would guess that this guy is hoping people will message him and like they can send each other pics of to their wives or something.
00:59:56
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. this This has the feel of somebody like feeling out other like he's looking for like minded people that he can like swap revenge porn with or something. Yeah. Photo swap situation.
01:00:08
Speaker
Yeah. That that's a that's I think you're on to something there. Here's another one. um The title is I hate my wife. And then it says the title is clickbait. But now that you're here, I had a few thoughts worth thinking about.
01:00:24
Speaker
Oh, good sentence. Yeah. Just being straight up dishonest. OK. I've seen a lot of posts recently talk about fantasizing about other women beside your spouse, sexualizing random church members and looking for threesomes or being overly critical about their spouses.
01:00:41
Speaker
Stringing a lot of things together there. I wanted to write this for the slightly younger audience that might be on here out of curiosity or looking for ways to vent or feel understood sexually.
01:00:51
Speaker
Seems like there isn't a lot of places to discuss sexuality, especially in the church. Yeah, no kidding. They they do a pretty good job at repressing that as well. You're going to love this guy, dude.
01:01:03
Speaker
You're going to love this guy. i want I want you to know that you can have a thrilling, engaging, and passionate, even kinky sex life with your future wife, as well as a strong spiritual base and relationship, complete with fidelity and trust.
01:01:20
Speaker
Before I was married, I was looking forward to being with my insanely beautiful wife. She's like crazy hot. I'm talking Sports Illustrated model hot.
01:01:30
Speaker
And we were best friends as well. The Wombo Combo. you Oh my God.
01:01:39
Speaker
I hate this dude. It's a wombo combo. and just the worst the worst iteration of my smoking hot wife guy.
01:01:52
Speaker
it's pretty bad even by those standards uh but for some reason the first bit of our marriage i was miserable i was unhappy wondered if i married the wrong person and felt completely misunderstood and incompatible we seem like we need to connect him with that other guy because it sounds like he made his wife swallow
01:02:15
Speaker
or somebody else's wife ah We seemed like completely different beings. And I started to wonder and feel tempted to seek other validation sexually and intellectually.
01:02:28
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This guy, and they're not he's a intellectual. He needs that, you know, mental connection because he's a deep thinker. But not just mentally, not just like ah that social connection or whatever. It's like intellectual. Like, wait, nice job calling your wife stupid, dude. like like she's She's real dumb and real hot.
01:02:48
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i mean, what more could you want? That's all I was looking for. Because, you know, me, I'm just, you know, I'm a deep thinker. And, you know, I need I i crave like stirring intellectual conversation.
01:03:02
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And, you know, bless her heart, she just can't keep up. Good thing she's like Sports Illustrated hot, huh? Yeah, that i I thought her being hot would make up for how stupid she was. Turns out that's not true.
01:03:15
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I didn't even think about it that way when I first read this, but you're right. I started getting so frustrated. I even became sexually unattracted to her. One day I realized that I hadn't fully committed communicated all this stuff with her and what I was feeling. Turned out she felt the same way. She thought I was stupid too.
01:03:36
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I made a commitment to stop pissing and moaning about my own struggles and feelings and start to really work things out and show her how much I care about her and love her, even if I don't feel it in the moment.
01:03:48
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We've gone through this cycle now over and over, but I've noticed that each time we go through this, we grow stronger together. They get in a fight and then try something new sexually. every that's out It's just like that repeating pattern. I tell her how dumb she is, then she does some cool new trick for me.
01:04:05
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yeah He's got her he's got doing like the Stephen Hawking thing, like he's making her do math problems in lingerie in front of him or something. He's such a brainiac. um The more we include God in our relationship, the more complete it feels.
01:04:22
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And now, I never would have thought that I'd have such a beautiful, kind, and caring wife. She's sexy, fun, and willing to change and grow with me. change The only thing she's willing to change is my dye dye. I love when she changes my dye dye. I was thinking about that. yeah The swallow guy. It's like like using the Bible coerce her into fulfilling his fetish. It's like, yeah boy, thank goodness he's not a diaper dude. He's just laying on the bed with his feet there. And he's like, if you love me and you love Christ, you'll change it.
01:05:03
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ah This Mormon dude, he's over here like, oh, you're, you're really hot, but you're so stupid. And she's like, stop being such a baby. He's like, if I'm such a baby. You have to change my diaper. She's like, oh yeah. And then everything gets better from there.
01:05:19
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He wants her to tug out his anal beads. if you If you truly serve God, you'll tug this thing out of me like I'm a stubborn lawnmower on the first day of spring.
01:05:36
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what um I don't need to fantasize about other women or look to porn or masturbating. I mean this in no judgmental way to anyone. do.
01:05:48
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You do. No one... Stop. It's so judgy. To fulfill my unmet needs. Because after communicating, she takes care of my needs, or at least as best she can, and it is enough. She's my porno and my best friend. Oh my god, dude. I'm done.
01:06:07
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I'm with this guy. This guy has so many good lines. She's my porno and my best friend. That that sounds like a good episode title.
01:06:18
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yeah The wombo combo. The wombo. She's my porno and my best friend. The wombo combo. That's it. I'm making mess right now.
01:06:34
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Sex with her is amazing, and living with her is amazing. I still go through the same thought processes I mentioned earlier on occasion, but sometimes I just suck it up when I do feel like looking outward for this validation or outlet. Other times I've caved here and there, and I'm not perfect, but the point is, it's worth putting her first and forgetting myself. I've found greater happiness in worrying about other people's problems rather than my own, and communicating when I do feel spiteful or frustrated.
01:07:02
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So... this This guy's tapped in. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, it's not the worst advice in the world, I guess. I wonder what his game... Sometimes we argue about whose turn it is to the dishes. Then we throw a bunch of dishes on the ground, scream at each other, then hate fuck the shit out of each other. Our marriage is awesome.
01:07:22
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Do you think she's cheating on him? yeah That's how... that's but I don't know, dude. I mean, this... this
01:07:36
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I ah dare I say both people in this relationship are faithful less happy than they're letting on um i that's for sure I think he's selling it to himself that things are pretty good because she like put her pinky finger in his butthole that one time he's still riding that high I think that's what this is yeah I used to struggle really bad with different vices and also had a Madonna whore complex really bad. That's crazy. I thought we were done, dude. He's still going.
01:08:09
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Yeah. Yeah, he's almost done. he like He had a Madonna thing? Well, the Madonna whore complex is like you see women in one of two polar opposite ways. They're either like, you know, pure as the wind driven snow or they're, you know, dirty whores. Interesting. I actually I've never heard of that that saying before. It's common among serial killers.
01:08:34
Speaker
Yeah? Okay. That's why you're very familiar. You do have, not because you are one, don't nobody get the wrong idea, but you do have a vested interest in all things serial killer. Yeah. I don't have the attention span to actually be one.
01:08:48
Speaker
No, you you don't. ah But after realizing I can take my happiness and relationship into my own hands, and while simultaneous and while systematically including God into my life, I've had a wonderful marriage. It's still crazy work, more than a think is normal in a marriage at a times, and at times i wondered if it is even worth it.
01:09:11
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But it is. You can have your cake and eat it too, you just have to work and sacrifice for it. Wow. This guy. He's fun, isn't he? He figured out marriage.
01:09:26
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I think we're at the, you know, like the top of the, uh, the, the enthusiasm curve. And now like the roller coaster is about to go down the big hill. Yeah, yeah. i think um I think this is one of those situations where this guy is mid at best. He probably has a decent job.
01:09:47
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And, I mean, he's peaked, right? Like, he's he's with the most attractive person who's ever going to put up with him. And he's trying to sell like how he can keep making this work because he is a little too shallow to admit that this is like he needs the hotness.
01:10:10
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um And he's he's he's he's shallow enough where he's willing to put up with a lot about what he's unhappy with and overcompensate and a Reddit post for it. But eventually it'll, it'll come to an end and ah we'll have to see if he can hack being with someone that will never compare to the first super hot person that kind of cared about him.
01:10:35
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I, I wish you the best, my friend. Yep. Yeah. I hope, ah I hope you sell a lot of cars this month. I can't wait till the post where like, um, I want, I wish we could follow these people's journeys. Right. Cause maybe they'll have kids someday and then they'll have to be like, they'll have a lot more to figure out in the divorce. Like that'll get messy. You know, you didn't mention kids and that's kind of unusual in the LDS thing, isn't it? I mean, you're kind of supposed to have kids.
01:11:06
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I don't think they've been married that long. I think, Oh, that would be the craziest twist. If they've been married like two years. Yeah, no, I think it's probably that or less. I really do. I think it was like your're probably they got married and then you know they lived together and he realized that when you're an unsufferable asshole, it's really hard to live with other people.
01:11:26
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And he's just talking about how good of a person he was for making it work and and finding the good in the person that he has to live with. But really, he's the problem. And they're going to.
01:11:38
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And so like kids is the next step. Like if they don't get, I mean, kids will be the next step. um And then he'll, he'll have a whole new round of problems that he needs to come to Reddit to complain about.
01:11:54
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Yep. He has his activity privated, so I can't see what other posts he's like commented on and stuff, unfortunately. That's like one of my favorite things is when you find somebody who's really out there.
01:12:05
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trust him little bit less now. Yeah. Yeah. What's he doing on there? Yeah. He's being a creep, dude. He's being a pervert. He's on that other guy's, the other post you read. He's sharing pictures of his wife in a bathing suit with that other dude. That's what he's doing.
01:12:21
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So there's one more LDS post that caught my eye. And, you know, we talk a lot on this show about men's sexual temptation and problems. Like, can we hear about a woman having trouble for once?
01:12:36
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And not just any women on Reddit. That's that's a distinctly male. What? Dominated area. Like there are subreddit. I just I feel like, oh, Let me rephrase in a lot of the Reddit spaces that we're looking to for entertainment. It's, I think, predominantly male.
01:12:55
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I don't know. I see a lot of women in there. Yeah. Sometimes they're the harshest. They have like the harshest, most like, ah like rigid takes on. Usually if it's like and if it's something about porn, they're. yeah. Sounding off.
01:13:12
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Yeah, yeah, that's true. That's true, because we do see a lot of that. I guess I'm thinking you more of, like, the... the i think of the Reddit to 4chan pipeline. Yeah. Is 4chan still a thing?
01:13:23
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I don't know, but, like, in you know in theory. Like, that's a... Something tells me that's just like, it's like a series of pop-ups now. Like if you try to go to 4chan, it's just like loaded with ah like fake nutrition ads.
01:13:40
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or Maybe create your AI furry girlfriend or whatever. Probably more that. So this one, this is a lady who's struggling with temptation. So shout out to this lady for being ah for being upfront here.
01:13:58
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He says, hey all i twenty seven female have been struggling with reading smut for probably about two years now my husband is aware that i do it and honestly says he likes it because it makes me horny and he gets to reap the benefits i've tried many times to stop and often can for about a month before starting again it makes me feel really bad about myself and gives me a lot of guilt-ridden anxiety issues which, eh, that's kind of sad.
01:14:28
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Yeah, I'm already bumped for her. You're both on the same page with it. He's cool with it. you're you know who's Who's condemning you here? Why don't you just do your thing?
01:14:41
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That's just that internalized... Like, ah it's just that evangelical messaging. Well, this is not evangelical. it's Is this LDS? or yeah oh yeah Yeah. But it's the same. Like, women aren't sexual beings. They're there to please their man. So, like, that's all that that this is, just internalizing that message. Yeah.
01:15:02
Speaker
This is where it gets a little odd because I don't understand everything about you know ah Mormons and their their rituals and stuff. It says, my question is, is this something that I need to confess to the bishop in order to fully repent?
01:15:16
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I have never once masturbated without my husband in the room and asking me to. Okay. okay but All right. and like Why? Because we know your husband has done that plenty of times. He's not talking to any bishop about...
01:15:31
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all the times he jerks off without you knowing about it. I know that. Is the bishop a, the bishop's a man, right? The bishop is her husband's penis. it's a great name for it actually like yeah get the little hat and shit no it's uh the bishop's much better than the pope because if you call him the pope it's like gonna be old and shriveled have a misshapen hat it's it's more like a like a a french uh what do you call what's the french floppy hats
01:16:08
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A beret? Beret. The only word coming to my mind was a bidet, and i I knew that wasn't right. Same thing. Blah, blah, blah, blah, French.
01:16:21
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That would be odd. You know, I've never thought about that. Like, what if you suffered some sort of an injury? Like, okay, you got bit by a big mosquito, and he just deflated the top of your penis, so it just hangs off like a beret. Yeah.
01:16:34
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like just Like you're just, loy head yeah, you basically got a foreskin extension. The head is just a, ah it's just a, I don't know. ah It's an over easy egg.
01:16:54
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it's like a, it's like a gotcha. It's like the ultimate penis. Gotcha. You pull back the foreskin and there's another foreskin. It's like, for just the head just drips out. Yeah.
01:17:06
Speaker
What are we doing, dude? I feel like, what is this? What is this? Yeah. If you plug your nose and blow, it goes... It's like Alf wearing an Alf suit. I mean...
01:17:21
Speaker
it's like alf wearing an allf suit i mean And an ill-fitting one at that. um So, i've never once masturbated without my husband in the room and asking me to I only read smut between consenting adults. That's the wombo combo. Only between the consenting adults, but I have been putting off renewing my temple recommend.
01:17:50
Speaker
i don't know what that is. Because I don't know how to answer the question about sins that should have been confessed, but weren't.
Humorous Takes on Confession Practices
01:17:57
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Is that like a Google form that goes out once a month about what kind of sin you engage in that goes straight up to the bishop?
01:18:04
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Very well could be. Like, do you have to write like a confession to the bishop or is it only like certain sins? Like if it's if it's like particularly dirty, you have to go talk to the bishop. Yeah, it's just vague. It's just like vague Google forms so they can like put the church data up once a month at their like their and their monthly meetings. They're like, looks like this month a lot of our parishioners are struggling with masturbation without their partners in the room and telling them to do it. Yeah.
01:18:38
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And that's a lot to fit on the church bulletin.
01:18:42
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I feel like the Bishop confessional is a little different than the Catholic one, you know, where you got like the, the booth with the screen window. ah feel like yeah the Catholics just let you off. You can go in there and you could literally go in there and like say anything.
01:18:56
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i And then they're like, you're good, bro. Yeah. I don't know if Mormon mormon confession is the same. I think they're going to hold it over you. I think they i think they get the... It's more of a gotcha booth. i think It's like a dunking booth for eternal damnation.
01:19:13
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I imagine it being kind of like a bathroom stall where there's no window, but he can peek underneath if he's like yeah curious. It's a glass bottom boat.
01:19:31
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that would actually be kind of a good invention like you know a wet bloated bishop like little bubbles coming out of his nostrils while he's got his face pressed against the glass waiting for something fun to happen waiting for all the women and their friends in bikinis to take pictures together
01:20:00
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christ i do like the idea of having like an actual window on the confessional booth and if somebody confesses to something particularly heinous you push a button and it just fills with water
01:20:14
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you did slow wave on the other side i like that movie the prestige yeah it's It's the prestige, but nobody gets out at the end.
01:20:26
Speaker
Oh, wait, that was the prestige. Sorry, spoiler. It had to come back to me. There's a lot of dead people in water. I forgot. I forgot about that. That was a good movie. He puts them in little jars like they're preemie babies in the
01:20:46
Speaker
ah Would this be something you'd consider one of those
Mormonism's Unique Rules
01:20:49
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sins? Or is this something I can repent for in private without involving a leader? I think that one of the reasons I haven't been able to fully stop is because I'm thinking that my previous repentance isn't good enough anyway, so I might as well continue until I work up the nerve to talk to a bishop about it.
01:21:05
Speaker
And this like seems like this is this is the essence of like Mormonism in practice. It's like a bunch of weird little rules and rituals that like everybody's just finding a workaround for. you know Sounds like every other sect of Christianity, actually. Yeah. Because the Catholics, say like, they have all their rules, and then you just do your Hail Marys and shit. Evangelicals are like, there is no mediator between God and man except for Jesus Christ, so you're on your own, motherfucker. like There's, like, a particular thing in in Mormonism, though, where it feels like ah like everybody's got, like like, the doctrine is in a book and everybody has, like, a player's guide where they're like, well, you can't drink hot caffeine, but you can drink cold caffeine.
01:21:53
Speaker
You can do this type of sin and not confess it directly to the bishop in person. But if it's this type of sin, you have to go be humiliated in front of an old man. Yeah, and if it's this type of sin, you have to roll your 20-sided die and see if you have to go against the archbishop.
01:22:11
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it's It's, again, it's all dungeons and dragons. That's my go-to for all that is, like, Christianity, no matter which way you split it, it's just dungeons and dragons. Plus 20 shame and regret.
01:22:23
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yeah Oh God, I just got like a metal sliver in my finger. From your iPad? Yeah, it was like stuck to my iPad case. Ow!
01:22:34
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Dang.
01:22:37
Speaker
All right Holy Spirit, message received. Yeah, dude, he's so mad at you right now for reading about Mormons. it's not It's not that we're being disgusting. It's that he doesn't like you platforming heresy.
Religious Guilt and Pornography
01:22:51
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Dude, the angel Moroni is going to come down and and personally like mallet stomp my penis in the middle of the night.
01:23:02
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Okay, so let's see what the comments say here. So so first off, she she posts an edit. She says, thank you for the advice, opinions, and insight. I realize that I have a lot more religious guilt than I realized. My mother grew up in a sexually abusive household, so she was always a pretty big prude when it comes to this kind of stuff.
01:23:18
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She is under the impression that anyone who consumes porn in any capacity is going to become a pedophile. And she is correct. Yeah, it's like, why do people have to throw shit in the end that ruins the fun?
01:23:35
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like I just now I just feel bad like that. Your mom went through that. Now that's what I'm thinking about. Yeah, it does put a little bit of a dark cloud over things.
01:23:46
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This is one of the reasons I was feeling so guilty because I have this huge fear of smut slash porn turning me into someone awful. I'm trying to work through all that because I know it isn't truly healthy.
01:23:58
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will be talking more with my husband and heavenly father. about what is best for me and my marriage. Again, thank you all for the comments and messages with your perspectives. i do that That gave me like ah Stephen Baldwin flashbacks referring to God as heaven. Like talking to Heavenly Father today and he he reminded me and of an important principle.
01:24:20
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Stevie B communing with the ghost. Stevie B. Hey, it's just me, Stevie B, hanging out my flat brim hat. yeah they that if there's If there's no clear example of like aging out of flator ha flat brim hats than Stephen Baldwin, I don't think one i i don't think another one exists Yeah, he has such a like an annoying aura like and he he has the distinct like like that is a guy who would be irritating to no end. And he he would think that he was saying something profound to you at all times. And it was just like the most mundane, dumb thoughts.
Stephen Baldwin's Hollywood Blacklisting
01:25:01
Speaker
Yes. And it's crazy because he thinks he's been blacklisted from Hollywood because he's a Christian. And it's I mean, sort of, but it's because he's so weird about like, he's just so like, no, who wants to work with that?
01:25:15
Speaker
Like nobody. No. But he lacks the self-awareness to to not realize that like you can you can exist in Hollywood. I mean, maybe. It sounds like there's ah that's quite the cabal of, ah you know, but's see what what's the what do they get out of baby's blood? What's that word? that Oh,
01:25:37
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enddo in the It's a not endocrine. It's a... Damn. That's a great word. Adrenochrome. Adrenochrome! I need that on deck more because it's such a good see such a good thing to throw out. You put the infant in the duck press?
01:25:54
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Yeah. Yeah.
01:25:57
Speaker
Just level 10 mustard at the at the bottom. Okay, so let's see what the community has to say here, because I really have no direction which where this kind of thing is going to go in here, especially after the last couple posts.
Confession Advice on Erotica Addiction
01:26:13
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So Bishop's wife chiming in. You don't need to tell the bishop about this. If it's an addiction and you're not able to carry on... Because the bishop my husband and he's a pervert. Don't tell my husband. Please.
01:26:25
Speaker
You skank. you if you If you are not able to carry on with your day because you want to continually read erotica, maybe get some therapy for that. Now, that would be a crazy addiction.
01:26:37
Speaker
Right? Like, but you're you're you're risking a car wreck every day like a drunk, you know, because you're trying to hold a book between your you know the rungs on your steering wheel.
01:26:48
Speaker
Dude, when I used to drive to Boston ah for work and I would be on the Mass Pike and there would be some traffic. The Mass Pike is notorious for traffic. And I used to see people reading books while driving a lot.
01:27:02
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It was kind of, it's pretty unnerving how common that was. Yeah, I don't doubt it. i mean, I've been known to partake a little. Yeah.
01:27:13
Speaker
I use an iPad once in a while while driving. yeah Yeah. But that's part of being a professional, you know? Yeah, you're good at it. That's the difference between you and everybody else. Typing a mean comment while ah while driving down the road.
01:27:28
Speaker
it's I would use my phone, but I've got a TV show playing. Yeah, right.
01:27:36
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Um, it's totally normal to get aroused. And if it happens when your spouse isn't in the room and you need to release occasionally, consider yourself normal and sexually healthy. I promised my husband. Oh, that's quite the license.
01:27:47
Speaker
Yeah, that's, uh, that's something else. That, that feels somewhat normal. I like that. Good for her. I promised my husband would feel a little awkward having a 27 year old married woman discuss this with him.
01:27:59
Speaker
Oh, you were right, dude. You were right. You called it. i I promise my husband would feel a little awkward having a 27-year-old married woman discuss this with him. He has no problem with me doing what I need to pertaining to my sexual desires. Heck, I text him during his church meetings and tell him I'm taking care of myself, and he says, have fun.
01:28:22
Speaker
And then he does the entire church meeting with a massive hard on. That is so, that is such a fucked up, like psychological, like play. you That's a power play. And I respect this woman. Yeah. That's, that's, that's weird kink stuff in and of itself. He's playing pocket pool during prayer.
01:28:40
Speaker
Yeah. He's praying. And all he's thinking about is you jerking. out i I respect the shit out of this woman. She's probably the only good Mormon woman that I know of on Reddit.
01:28:52
Speaker
You're healthy and it sounds like you get stimulated just like your body was made to do. For a woman, sex is all about where her imagination takes her. If you need to read erotica to take your imagination, there more power to you.
01:29:04
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Here's a good little addition from this same lady. Also, what would be really good is if your husband would read the book and start doing those things to you. That's just a funny way of saying it. ah This woman rips, dude.
01:29:22
Speaker
Maybe your husband do those things to you. Maybe he sneak into your house at night, you know, and get you with the grot or whatever. You know, it gets you stimulated. So teach him how to do it for you. Make him say all the words and do all the things and then you won't really need it anymore. Hopefully this woman needs a full time job on Reddit.
01:29:44
Speaker
Just telling people things like this. Keep the church out of your bedroom, girl. You're good, I promise. Wow. That's something else. That's a whole different strain.
01:29:56
Speaker
This woman rocks. Good for her. Huh. Former Bishop here, had you been in my ward and you did come in and confess, here's how I would respond. While it's admirable that you want to keep your thoughts 100% pure 100% of the time, you do not need to burden yourself with anxiety and guilt for your thoughts straying. If the stories you are reading are generally wholesome, representing consensual relationships, while also depicting intimate relationships, there is little you need to worry about. If you and your husband are both comfortable and you are reading...
01:30:27
Speaker
With you reading these type of books and they lead to a productive and loving relationship between you two, then why take that away? If you're still feeling guilty, let's talk about counseling options to help break down traditional overly conservative purity culture type teachings and beliefs so that you can feel free to embrace your sexuality and all the wonderfully divine design feelings and capacities that you have been endowed with. keep on it Keep your lines of communication open with Heavenly Father.
01:30:55
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Don't like that. yeah And your husband, you you say the Heavenly Father. Saying Heavenly Father makes me, a i don't know, triggers my gag reflex.
01:31:07
Speaker
The three people involved in your your new and everlasting covenant. Until it gets to the point of you seriously neglecting personal family or employment responsibilities, or you going to extreme means to seek out more material or even more explicit material, I have nothing else to discuss with you about it. Go enjoy yourself.
01:31:25
Speaker
Now, what? OK, stop selling me on Mormonism. That's why I feel like we're being honey potted for Mormonism right now. Like this is some sort of this is like their recruitment tech. Their their their enrollment is like in the toilet right now. So they're sending out these people to, ah you know, it's like flirty fishing. They're trying to trying to weasel you into the church before they pull the rug out from under you.
01:31:52
Speaker
Maybe the propaganda has always come from our team, and that's why we have such a poor view, because i hear that and I go, why are these people more normal than evangelicals?
OMG Yes: Women's Pleasure and Sexual Education
01:32:01
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That's all I'm hearing right now.
01:32:03
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Yeah, i'm i'm looking to see if I'm looking to see if there's any like negative comments. Just all sex positive. Mormon sex positivity is not what I expected out of tonight's Reddit plunge.
01:32:18
Speaker
Read a couple paragraphs, hand the book to your husband, and let him read a couple paragraphs. We've read several books about sex this way. Not necessarily erotica, but still about sex. We also watched a so video series called OMG Yes.
01:32:32
Speaker
Now that I can't do. Sorry. My training will not allow me to do that. What is this video series? I don't know. You should Google it.
01:32:44
Speaker
OMG, yes. oh All one word. OMG, yes. I guess my point is this. If it strengthens the bond you have with your husband, why question it if it's wrong? Uh, you've seen the posts from all P all the people struggling with frequency and high low libidos issues. I think you have found a hack to make your own intimacy better. I'd only tell if someone noticed the smile on your face and wondered how you got it.
01:33:08
Speaker
Refer to the good, better, best scenario and be on with life. I think it wants me to download an app experience. Join 1 million people experiencing more intimacy and pleasure. What is OMG? Yes. Finding findings from the largest ever research study into women's pleasure. Explore new techniques with super honest videos, animations, and how to's inspiration for women, men, and couples solo or together.
01:33:36
Speaker
Here's what women wish they'd known sooner. Huh. It sounds like it's a, uh, just a way to help. It's recommended by men's health people, Oprah magazine. So I don't think it's like porn. I think it's just like that bugs in my face. Fuck.
01:33:53
Speaker
Sorry. I got die bombed by a bug in my basement. Um, Yeah, sounds like it's just ah a website to help people learn how to have better sex, please their female partners, all good stuff.
01:34:10
Speaker
Well, hey, we don't often say nice things about Mormonism, but you know what? You get a you get a banana sticker tonight. Yep. Maybe a peach sticker.
01:34:22
Speaker
I, I've had a really hard time understanding the implications of all that we've read in the Book of Mormon. But hey, if this is what you get from it, keep going.
01:34:34
Speaker
I don't know how you read this and deduce any of the things that we just read about for the last hour. Yeah, but you know, a lot could, a lot could be said about the Bible too, you know? So here we are.
Positive Discussions on Mormon Sex Positivity
01:34:48
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the book of mormon i'm not look i'm not changing any of my thoughts on the book of mormon it's the craziest shit we've read ever here it's nuts uh but look whoever these people are on this sub keep up the good work spread the good news of uh appropriate human sexuality uh taking away shame from women who are exploring it this is this is beautiful stuff keep it up Yep. Good job, Mormons.
01:35:17
Speaker
I don't know why anybody would ever leave your church. If it wasn't for people wanting to watch you take off that super sexy secret underwear. How do you wear those under bikinis? No, that's Mormons, right?
01:35:31
Speaker
yeah Yeah, that's Mormons. That is Mormons. yeah Maybe we stumbled into like a Unitarian Mormonism sect in that subreddit or something like that. The secret Mormons.
01:35:43
Speaker
Yeah, if this is not representative of of the Mormon church as a whole, message us something that is. Because, you know, we don't like saying nice things about anybody. I know, it's hard. This is a tough pill to swallow.
01:35:58
Speaker
Yeah. We have jokes to make. Feelings to hurt. Parents to disappoint. Come on.
01:36:07
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Yep. So, all right, folks. Well, thank you for listening. Don't forget to check out the Discord. Link is in the Instagram bio. And we'll talk to you