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Ep. 281 – The Raid: Greg Locke’d and Loaded

Growing Up Christian
Growing Up Christian

233 plays · Aug 7, 2026

This week we discuss the series of unfortunate events that has befallen tent revivalist and modern day Van Helsing Greg Locke, a woman led by the Spirit to preach her way onto the No Fly List, and we weigh in on a Reddit debate for the ages: are adult toys the equivalent of the puzzle box from Hellraiser? Enjoy the show!

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Speaker: And after underscore arugula 7154 says, well, sex toys are a doorway. It makes you find it okay to go into experimental sexual activities like couple swapping.

Speaker: And before you knocks it, now you are into sex dungeons, fetishes, and bondage. I can't believe that this is a real person. They're trolling. What leap, dude. they have to be trolling i have a got bad news for you dude food is a print as a as a doorway to being a fat fuck the bible has a lot to say about gluttony more just more about gluttony than it does about sex toys interestingly enough that is

Speaker: Hello and welcome to Grown Up Christian. I'm Casey. I'm Sam. And sorry we missed a week. I was on vacation. I went to South Dakota for a week, April and I did, and We hiked and we looked for rocks and then we visited my grandma and that's pretty much it for an entire week. It was awesome.

Speaker: I mean, that's how you pick vacations, but you're like, where's the, like the least interesting place for almost everybody else to go. And, uh, you're like, that's where we're I mean, you just want vast, vast amounts of just dirt and rocks that yeah at one point was covered in water millions of years ago.

Speaker: I picked it because of the rocks. That's why we picked that spot. And it was so much fun. We found like a bunch of agates and stuff like that. it was great. du Come on now. It was a fair, friendly, friendly show.

Speaker: And there's no way to abbreviate that.

Speaker: What are those? They're ah they're like these really cool. Um, Agate is like a ah it's like a layered like banded rock formation where like you have a bunch of like very colorful layers that are all kind of swirled together in these like distinctive bands.

Speaker: OK. Fairburn ones are they have like a very distinct like cloverleaf pattern and a lot of red in them and stuff. They're really pretty. We found some very small ones of those, but then we found lots of other types of things.

Speaker: Nice. oh But I had a near-death experience on the trip. Does it have anything to do with needing to shit yourself behind a rock again?

Speaker: No, but i do did i did ever I did have a problem that I had to deal with on one of the rock spots. Did you revisit the same spot that the original incident happened in? Wouldn't that be fun?

Speaker: Wouldn't that be really fun to go back and be like, kind of just like make sure it's like, it's like you marked your territory. You're just going to make sure that no one else is just shitting where you shit. Just see if it's fully decomposed in into soil. Yeah.

Speaker: Maybe there's like a little sunflower growing out of it. yeah I mean, it possibly like petrified. i'm not good at ah I'm not good at squatting for long periods of time. It represents a really a dangerous situation for me. Despite those tree trunks that your body is standing on, you'd think that those would hold you. What's the point of hauling these things around? I know, dude.

Speaker: I mean, you must go. You got to go through like... A pair of jeans every six months. That's where my jeans tail is. Yeah, the chub rub. yeah Exactly, yeah. they They split right there on the inside of the thigh. But no, so we went hiking. We spent a couple of days at ah Custer State Park, which is really cool. Black Hills is awesome. I love South Dakota anyways. I'm a little biased because I spent a lot of time there as a kid. But the Black Hills is unbelievable.

Speaker: It's just gorgeous. And Custer State Park is big, big, expansive place. And they have like free roaming buffalo herds and stuff like that, which is really cool. That's it. But ah the one day we went there, we went hiking.

Speaker: And we started out and the weather was kind of iffy all week. It was like there was a lot of thunderstorms and stuff, but like not a lot of rain. It would just like cloud up, make a bunch of noise and then maybe like throw a few drops around. So this trail we're doing is like three, three and a half miles long.

Speaker: One half of it goes through its creek bed, so you're way down low in the trees and there's lots of birds and stuff. So we we took that route first. And then the second half, you like go up this ridge and it's rock formations and stuff. They've had fires there and they've had a lot of like extreme wind and storms. So like the ridge was pretty bare. like There wasn't a lot of trees and stuff.

Speaker: But while we were down in the creek bed, you know, it clouded up and it was thundering like crazy and stuff seemed like it was going to pour on us, but it just never really did. And kind of moved forward, moved on. It's just patchy thunderstorms. So we we finished down in the creek bed and we start making our way up the the ridge.

Speaker: We get like all the way to the top, and we're sitting on this like out rock outcropping, like overlooking the the park and the visitor center and stuff, just hanging out, listening for birds and stuff.

Speaker: and There's like some clouds around and stuff, but everything seems far away. you know it doesn't like There's nothing immediately like right over our heads or whatever, so I didn't think anything of it. and Then all of a sudden, like...

Speaker: Boom, like lightning hits the next rock outcropping. Oh, my God. It's like big flash, big boom, like felt it in your chest and stuff. And it's like you ring your ears.

Speaker: Yeah, I mean, it was loud. It was the by far the closest I've ever been to like and a lightning strike. Yeah. And it's like all of a sudden you're very aware of how exposed you are on the ridge. like oh who All right, let's go. Let's go. So we start like, like making our way down the trail, but it's all bare. Like there's no trees or anything. So yeah what do you guys like you're not running from anything. You're just a moving target.

Speaker: pretty much Your head's the highest point. You look real cool trying to outrun lightning in a field. So yeah, that was a, that was a little crazy.

Speaker: you Like you, I could just picture you like running with like, you're ducking like hands over your head. Like you just stormed the beaches of Normandy. The thighs of my hiking pants got pretty warm. It was like touching car exhaust. yeah it Almost started a fire. Yeah.

Speaker: Oh, but okay. So another fun thing that happened actually today. so yes a couple weeks ago, we talked about, uh, an inspirational character named Andy Elliot.

Speaker: And if you heard the episode or maybe familiar with him, I know he's, been a hot topic of conversation over the past couple of years at different points because like Shane Gillis and those guys have made fun of him quite a bit but you know he's like this he's like a he's a con man car sales guy yeah he He ratted out his former employers because they were all doing a bunch of illegal stuff and you know selling customers cars they couldn't afford and forging bank paperwork and bribing people to make the loans happen. We went through all of it on that episode.

Speaker: um But last week while I'm on vacation, I got a notification on my phone and it's like, let me see. I'll just see if like i'll just read the ah the calendar event.

Speaker: Okay, it says, um live training, 10 a.m. m Pacific time, Asura with special guest Andy Elliott, the proven F&I system that produces $2,500 per deal consistently.

Speaker: And it's a Zoom link. And I'm like, why am I getting this? Like, I didn't sign how did you get that? I wasn't sure if you signed up for something to get information in order like, keep tabs on what this guy had going on. But I was like, how did you hear that?

Speaker: You probably paid for it by accident. Yeah, I'm subscribed to his $10,000 a month plan. dates when you sent When you told me about it, you were like, I kind of want to go to this. And I was like, i definitely want to see if you can forward the link. And I was nervous ahead of time. I'm like, am I just going to get billed by the minute for joining this thing? Like, is there going to be some nefarious setup? I'm going to be out like 5k just because it's like bills you like $100 a minute or whatever.

Speaker: And it wasn't, it was just a a Zoom thing. But um I mean, yeah, so it was a big nothing burger, right? So Andy Elliott was only like slated for the last 10 minutes of the meeting.

Speaker: And after like five minutes of Adrian something or other, after like five minutes, it was very obvious that this meeting was like nothing. Like there was nothing there. It was just regular ass. You summed it up good. Cause you understand that industry well, but it was just like classic repackaged like gimmicks for like trying to sell people shit they don't need.

Speaker: Um, Yeah, it was all about like the ah the finance department in a car dealership. And i I work in automotive. I work with car dealerships. You know, i just don't work on the front end sales side. I'm back and you know, I work in the service areas with ah with a bunch of dealerships.

Speaker: But they're basically teaching you, like, tactics for selling extended warranties and stuff, because that's where dealers make all their money. extended warranties. Right. And, you know, like, protection plans for your paint and your carpet and all that stuff.

Speaker: So it was, like, real run-of-the-mill stuff. But, like... Sam was like, oh, forward me a link and I'll join it. So we we decided, OK, we're going to get on this thing together and see if it's funny or whatever.

Speaker: So I sent him the link. We sit through the first 45 minutes, which is, yeah, it's just consultant garbage like, hey, you know how ah people come in and you don't have a plan for how you're going to talk to them? Have a plan. That's that's basically what it sums what it comes down to. Right. But I watched as like people were pouring into this thing because they were like, you know, put your name in the in the chat and like what dealer you're from and stuff. And it's like it's all sales managers and general managers, dealer owners and stuff from all over the country. And me being in that business, I texted Sam and I'm like, I'm going I'm just going to listen and keep a low profile here because I don't know who's on this thing. Yeah. Like, I don't worry that there are people that use for my company.

Speaker: That you people you might work with directly that your company might actually like service like or sell products to those dealerships or whatever. So, yeah, you were like, yeah, I don't want any.

Speaker: Anyone, or you i mean, who knows if someone want to recognize your name or whatever. One thing that was ah funny to note is that like when they were talking about the the order in which you sell all these ancillary products in the finance department, you know, he's talking about it and stuff and like somebody chimes in and they go, why don't you sell like the paint protection and interior protection and tire and wheel and stuff like that up front? Because those are things that customers never turn in a claim on.

Speaker: So if you're if you're in a car dealership and you're thinking about buying extended warranties and stuff, first off, you better Google it first and make sure that it has good reviews. Second off, don't buy all that crap. It's not worth your money. Don't buy it.

Speaker: Anyways, so so we get to the point where Andy Elliott joins. and he's in a co He's in a hoodie. He's in a hoodie with the sleeves cut off. I don't think they were even cut off. I think it was just designed that way.

Speaker: He ordered a hoodie with no sleeves. Yeah. And it says Elliot army across the chest. And I don't, this guy sucks so bad, dude. It just has his, it's very, it's poison.

Speaker: Yeah. It's very Tate like that. Like yeah. High energy, masculine, like forceful speaking. It's, it's that, it's that, um, Andrew Tate kind of energy.

Speaker: Yeah, he's just more of a money launderer than a sex trafficker. Right. that's That we know of. we're waiting I mean, TBD, really. I don't trust this guy. So he just talks. Look, the guy just talks in circles in big flowery language about growing your business and getting better and personal development and being a better person and bringing in more money. Look at my house. Look at my house. wife look at my show people his house if he's like i'm in my house in mexico right now that i bought because i rule and you don't it's like and then he's just like if you if you if you if you don't make more money it's because you don't want to like it's like yeah you don't have the fire you don't have that dog in you so they were selling um they were selling like a two-day event thing and the funny thing about that this adrian dude who did the first half of it was like

Speaker: Right before they bring on Andy Elliott, they do the big breakdown of all the services that they have to offer. And they'll all be available if you go to this two-day event. And it's like $14,000 fucking sticker But they're giving it to you for like $97 something like that.

Speaker: ninety seven dollars or something like that Just for the people on this call, because the people on this call, because you showed up today, you guys are operators. You guys want to grow your business. You're the real deal. You're the type of people that we want at this event.

Speaker: Yeah. So a hundred bucks for you. Yeah. And then, but Elliot gets on and he's like, he starts saying it's $197. And then Adrian's like, well, actually Andy, we, we, we lowered the price because we just really believe that these people need to be there and we want to give them that. ah And he was like, he said something like, yeah, that's stupid. Like that's like, it's stupid how low this is. Like if you don't go, if you don't go for $97, you're stupid. He does that thing where he like puts,

Speaker: builds you up but then does that like make like tries to make you feel a little small too like here like yeah you can do this right now you're just a little bitch boy but you can make it you can be like me like i can give you something to strive for he just it's just like dangles the carrot in front of you a bit um And then he so he's like, but I want to teach you guys something. So I'm going to go through. I'm going give you three things to like that you can take away from this.

Speaker: And I don't entirely remember what the first one was and how he said it. remember it. was basically like then go for it because I don't want to he said send it better than me. Because he goes, I'm going to give you 10 closes, 10 proven closes. And you need to write these down, take notes on them and put them to work. But ten closes and he he spends like five minutes building up the free. He only gave two in the whole thing because he just talks in circles so much. But yeah, the first one, he's like, he's like this first close. We call it like the appeal to familial concern close or something along that. Some, you know, they always have to have a war, you know, a title for whatever. And he goes, here goes, Mr. Customer, let me tell you something. I'm going level with you.

Speaker: If you were my mom, if you were my brother, i would not be able to sleep at night knowing that I didn't give you the opportunity to offload the risk and the responsibility for these many you know complex vehicle systems to this warranty company rather than to hold that risk on your own.

Speaker: Like basically like, you know what? I like, you you know, if, if you were my, my mom, I would just kill myself if I didn't give you the opportunity to buy an extended warranty from me. I just wouldn't feel right about that.

Speaker: And so I texted you while we're on and I was like, what he said, like, if I heard that in a dealership, I would immediately not trust them and want to back out of the deal. I'd be Oh, I'm getting fucked right now.

Speaker: So Casey's like, you should say that in the chat. And I was like, okay. But apparently when you, click apparently when you click a link that someone else emails you, there was a private link and it logged me, it signed me into like zoom office or whatever. It just automatically logged me in and put me into the, the, the call.

Speaker: It says, It says Casey's name above what I wrote. And Casey's like, ah, no, delete, delete, delete. It says my name. These people might know me. what strippa with go panic I'm like, no, delete it, delete it. He immediately sees it.

Speaker: Immediately. like I deleted it, but he saw it first. He knows it. He goes, oh, oh, oh, here, look, at look, at Casey says, you know, I would immediately distrust someone if I heard that from him. You know what? You know what, man? That's because you're a coward.

Speaker: That's because you're a coward. Let me ask you something. How much does a transmission cost it fails? How much does a computer system cost it How much does an engine cost if it fails? Oh, oh, you're off and quiet now. Is that you're a coward? Because you're creeping around behind your keyboard? You're just a coward. You're not responding now?

Speaker: I'll tell you what, you know, if you, if I was a bad person, if I was a dishonest person, I might look at a statement like that and think that kind of thing behind it. But, you know, Casey, I'm not that kind of person. I'm a, I'm a good person. I want to help people. i want to build people up. I want to save people money. I want to help them, you know, secure their investment. And so to me, this is how we build credibility.

Speaker: And he just like lambasted me for like a full minute on this conference call. I don't know.

Speaker: couldn't Quit laughing afterwards. I was just like sitting in my office just like giggling for a while.

Speaker: It's so funny. And I immediately left. I was like, maybe if I leave, it'll be, it'll be better. Cause people can't see the name anymore or whatever. And then as soon as I left, I was like, that's going to make it worse. He's going to realize that it's going to like, kate it's going to like Casey left the chat or some shit in the the group the group chat. It was so funny.

Speaker: i I called and told my dad about it. Yeah. What did he say? he's like He's like, oh, that guy's a weirdo anyway. ah but Yeah. he So he was supposed to speak for the last like 15 minutes of this thing just to like close the deal and like offer you get you to buy those tickets from your class he spoke for 45 minutes did he really yeah he just went in circles like like let me tell you something bro if you if you are not serious let me tell you something if you're not serious about growing your company if you're not serious about getting better about being better then don't come to this class

Speaker: You know, this is for closers. This is for winners. This is for people who are operators that are trying to do their best, that are trying to grow their business and get to it. How much, how much, let me ask you something. Type in the chat how much money you make.

Speaker: Type in the chat how much money you make and then type in the chat how much money you want to make. Let's set a goal here. Let's talk about goals. Look, this is $97. If you can't afford $97 in the future of your business, I don't want you at this class. Let me tell you, you're you're a little baby. He kept calling people a little baby.

Speaker: throughout the whole thing at the end and then he like tried like 16 different closes on the thing he's like you know everything you can think of the last one was can i level with you guys for a second okay because i want you guys to i want you guys at this class look let me tell you something god created us for more oh the god card for more And, you know, this is about development.

Speaker: You know, you can do the best for your family. Are you going to grow? Are you going to make more money for your family? Look at my house. Look at my house. I run a nine figure business, which highly doubt, highly doubt it's even an eight figure business. I mean, he's begging people for $100 to come to his timeshare pitch like, yeah. He's like, you know what? He was talking to his wife for a minute on it, too.

Speaker: And he was just like, what's up, baby girl? Hey, baby girl. each And he'd be like, my wife? Oh, we go back and forth. It's like World War III over here. We go back and forth. And we, like, argue all the time about stuff. And you're like, oh, my God, dude, shut the fuck up.

Speaker: And, like, after i after i put that thing in the chat and left. I when i i said, um I texted you. Cause I'm like, cause you're like, yeah, he's still going off about it. And then and I wonder if he went long because that flustered him so bad. You know, he's not used to being, being confronted, but I was like, man, that's rough. I really hope he doesn't hit his wife when he gets up to call the blow off. I'll feel pretty bad about that. Yeah.

Speaker: It's so funny to hear a guy be like, if you know if the main reason why people won't give me their money is ego. They're too proud to humble themselves and listen and learn. Oh, my God. after they They're willing to be humble and to learn, and it's like coming from a guy in a sleepless hoodie with his name on the front.

Speaker: Yeah. ego yeah i know in humbleness walking to the ocean with an open mouth man yeah seriously so yeah that was that was so funny oh my god that was funny i i would have i wished um i wish that we that if like the name thing didn't get all weird It would have been really interesting to see because what I imagine them just booting me from it, if I if i said too much, you know? Probably. Because you mentioned making a comment about, oh, that that house in Mexico, that's the one you bought after you you like you basically sold out your colleagues and testified against them.

Speaker: and stole all their money is basically what he did so like if you point out like his like that nefarious like i bet i would have been booted eventually and it would have been pretty funny to see um where it went if if i didn't just blow up casey's spot and i could have just kept rolling with it oh man but speaking of men with big egos with nothing to say yeah um I'll tell you what, 2026 is proving to be a very hard year for our friend of the show, Greg Locke.

Speaker: Friend of the show. you Imagine if we were able to get him on. it would like You know, the sad thing is it wouldn't even be funny. No, it it would be unbearable and miserable, just like everything else in his life.

Speaker: Yeah, because you can't really... You can't say anything to him. There's no argument to be had. like You know when you disagree with him, he just gets angry and steamrolls everything? He has no chill at all.

Speaker: No, he's just a screamer. Yeah, so... ah he's having a, he's having a real bad year. That's nice. I'm glad there's some justice in the universe.

Speaker: Well, I guess we could get the, the most unfortunate part of it out of the way first, but, um, he did have one very serious, uh,

Speaker: thing happened this year so a couple months ago one of his sons overdosed and died that's right i didn't know about that so i feel bad calling that justice that is not that is sad that kid's a victim of his father's hatred and evil and vitriol and that sucks Yeah, and I don't know. it's a He's in the news here lately, though, because a couple weeks ago, he got an early, early morning raid from the FBI. 60 federal agents stormed his house and turned it over, basically, like top to bottom.

Speaker: That's a lot of federal agents. Yeah. I didn't even know he had that many left under Kash Patel. I will say that's Greg Locke's account of it. The FBI did did say that they they did they conducted a raid on his property.

Speaker: I think church property and his property. But it's kind of the culmination of a supposedly a two-year investigation into like financial malfeasance.

Speaker: Nice. Yeah. um He's had some pretty ugly like public splits with people from his church. Like there's been two like main ones, a couple of different couples left. um You know, that clip where ah that went viral of him like.

Speaker: dancing around and screaming on stage about how like he had the names and addresses of like three witches in the audience. Yeah. Yeah. So one of those was the, the ones that were like leaving and planning to, uh, you know, come out against him.

Speaker: Oh, which because yeah. And that it just care. It's basically character assassination immediate, immediately jump to character assassination. Yeah. yeah so Pick something better. Oh, they're a witch. people like I know they go to your church, Greg, but like i I don't know if people really will buy that. i don't know if people will really believe the witch angle. like Just say they cheated on their husbands.

Speaker: With you, yeah even. I mean, you can get away. you Apparently, you can get away with anything. just like Pick a real form of character defamation or assassination. Yeah.

Speaker: ah Dude, there's a video that was going around in the last week here of some like street preacher guy that went to his church and confronted him with a bunch of scripture verses about idolatry and a man and an officer of the church is only meant to have one wife.

Speaker: And basically like he committed adultery by by leaving his first wife and marrying his secretary. And I don't know, it was pretty funny. He did not take it well, yeah as you might imagine. Yeah, he doesn't take anything well.

Speaker: No, he called his goons over to get rid of the guy. It's just kind of one thing after another world, Greg, right now. But the the speculation about the investigation is that it has to do with his handling of church funds in regards to their building.

Speaker: So they started out years ago where they first like kind of came to prominence is he had a tent, a tent church in Tennessee.

Speaker: Okay. Or Freesboro or something like that. And they, they had this great big tent and they were packing it out. You know, it was like a big revival thing that was just an ongoing deal. And as things got bigger and bigger, like they looked at getting a building and they've raised funds for it a number of times.

Speaker: a tornado did take out their first tent. Oh, cool. So you mean a sign from God? So they raised a bunch of money, bought a bigger tent. You mean they spit in God's face?

Speaker: ah You got to keep the gimmick going. The second tent, they had a freak like blizzard in Tennessee and it collapsed under the weight. Could the will of the Lord be any more clear?

Speaker: Dude, it was like a year later something. crazy. was like immediate. But yeah, these like big circus tents too. So like pretty expensive and whatnot. So they've, the last like few years, they've been holding a church services in a, ah in a warehouse facility in the, in the town there.

Speaker: And I guess it's like, it's a warehouse, you know, it's not really meant to be a church. They lease it, they don't own it. And they've spent like hundreds of thousands of dollars, like updating and remodeling the space in this warehouse to make it suitable to hold church services in.

Speaker: At one point, they had a lot of people in their church at one point. They had like 3000 weekly attendees. That is way more than I would have expected. I felt like this is one of those guys who because we talked during like post covid, like a few of the like these big ah these people who are making waves online.

Speaker: these pastors and then you find out that they only have like three four five hundred people at their church and it's not like this massive draw it's just it just they just happen to have gone viral and that's really where ah any of the like it's not yeah the but they give the air there's like this presentation of like being like a mega church or some shit i actually didn't know greg locks was that big Well, it's not anymore.

Speaker: It's down to 300. Oh. oh So there is some justice in the world, apparently. Yeah. um He's been pretty mired in controversy, you know, with it, with, with his first divorcing his first wife, who apparently, i don't know the full, so I don't know if anybody knows the full story. She did an interview that like the, some journalist was some journalist did with her and I guess they didn't put it out, but somehow the audio leaked and,

Speaker: And in it, she talks about like pushing him and then threatening to kill herself if he didn't come home. And so, I mean, it sounds like it was a wonderful relationship. Yeah, that sounds great. Like really that's what that went a direction I wasn't expecting.

Speaker: I was thinking it'd be more like along the lines of not wanting him to come home. Like it's that's the opposite of what I would think their arguments were about. Yeah. Yeah. She so real quick forced.

Speaker: Oh, go ahead. um I am in basically like a three season room with plastic windows and it is starting to storm around me and I don't know if I should.

Speaker: I don't know. Should i relocate? Is it causing an issue? Fine. I don't hear it. All right. OK, just want to make sure. But yeah, so he he divorced his first wife and four months later he married his assistant or secretary or something. And that's who he's with now. She brought children into the marriage. He brought children into the marriage. And four months is not it ghost four months in and you're married. You were having an affair. Let's be clear.

Speaker: Maybe he got a word from the Lord. He didn't take the Lord's word when his tent was destroyed twice in a row. I don't think he's really listening that hard.

Speaker: So they ah they've been talking about moving out of this warehouse facility into a permanent building, and they've had several deals fall through. They've raised a bunch of money for it. But the the circumstances around where the money's at and how it's been handled are kind of what everybody thinks might be the you know the the driving force behind this investigation. um At one point, they had a building lined up to buy in like Lebanon, Tennessee, or something like that. Greg actually like moved their offices and stuff out there, and then the building deal fell through.

Speaker: But before, they were purchased this... Before they actually went through with the purchase of this building that eventually fell through, right Greg bought himself $1.6 million dollars compound acres in Lebanon. as expensive.

Speaker: what forty five hundred square feet one point six million dollar compound in tennessee where things aren't as expensive Yeah, and he says ah he says, you know, the house isn't worth $650,000. The house is worth $650,000, and I bought 20 acres for a million dollars, all with my book sales money. But the house is owned by Global Vision Church, not Greg Locke.

Speaker: So he bought it as like a parsonage or something like that. yeah It's all just very icky feeling. And, e you know, there has to be a lot of really like slippery things going on if they've been investigating it for two years.

Speaker: Like, what could there possibly be to go through for two years? um It's probably not all receipts from book sales. Probably not. Like how many, but what's his book? He's not...

Speaker: to buy out to He hasn't even sold a million copies. Wyatt's Right to Kill Palestinians by Greg Locke. yeah Why you should hate your children when they disobey you.

Speaker: Why God loves Israel and will vaporize everyone else's children, you know, by Greg Locke. That's the one that's on John Fetterman's bookshelf and all of his interviews, which is right there.

Speaker: Yeah, dude. if If Greg Locke and John Fetterman are not getting, like, a giant Israel check, like, once a month, then I don't know what they're doing. Like, they're clearly not confident enough to have any... any say over anyone's money.

Speaker: Fetterman has a handler for his Israel position. they like They just act as like the left hemisphere of his brain. Yeah, pretty much.

Speaker: Like it's someone on the payroll. It's like it's probably ah I mean, they're Apex payroll, but it's it. He has it. He has a handler for how how to approach and address that anything related to Israel.

Speaker: Yeah, they like ah dab the drool from the corner of his mouth and then they just move his jaw and goes, ah think it's actually perfectly fine to Donald Evans. He's a ventriloquist dummy.

Speaker: hes he He's literally like talking about changing parties now because of Israel. So, yeah, ah they... Apparently, like like I said, he's raised money for a building multiple times, and he yeah ah former staffers allege that he's gotten loans from individuals on the church's behalf multiple times, but nobody knows the details. Nobody's seen the books on it, and when questioned about it, he just like says it's nobody's business, basically.

Speaker: And which that pisses me off because when I do, even when I was at ah when I was at Liberty still no and um my wife and I were going to a church, they had a new building. No, their building was fine.

Speaker: They had a they had a playground fund. They wanted to build at like a nice playground because they were like, this is something that's going to be great for the community.

Speaker: people can come around and use it and it's a ministry opportunity. It was just really like that classic hokey ass cell, but they, um, and I remember having being like, all right, how much of my fucking money? Cause I was still tithing. Also tithing was the biggest but might have in hindsight.

Speaker: When I think of things, I regret more than anything. It's probably tithing. I mean, I haven't made too many big mistakes. So like tithing, I would probably have like an extra 40,000. I mean, how much money could I have possibly have tithed?

Speaker: I tithed for like religiously, like I definitely did 10% at one point. I probably walked that back a bit, but I did that for so long.

Speaker: Like what a waste of money. Holy shit. Anyway, I remember thinking then, I'm giving my money to this thing. Like how much of my money is going to a playground fund? And I, I, I wanted, I did ask about it cause I'm like, I'm, I don't know how I feel about this playground idea.

Speaker: Like, I feel like you guys are kind of overselling how much of a pillar of the community this is going to be like the public school kids aren't going to come use it and then find Christ here. I'm sorry. This is just a dumb idea for ministry. Don't to label as ministry.

Speaker: Um, but they were like pretty, they got, they ended up doing like the, on their like gift and their cards, like you have to set you had to say if you wanted to give money to their playground industry.

Speaker: And their funds were fairly transparent at this church. So that some people were giving to it and cool. At some point, they were going to use some church funds for it, which I thought was bullshit anyway. But they were like, you can also specifically give to it.

Speaker: All around dumb. I mean, just giving to a church is a mistake. It's just the biggest mistake you can make on a weekly basis. outside of like, unless you're a serial cheater, that's a big mistake that you can do pretty frequently.

Speaker: But like, like Greg Locke might have been with his secretary. We don't know. We just can speculate. Yeah, it's a... I don't know. he He's clearly like he's been just using the church as like a slush fund to do what he wants with it without like any oversight or anything like that.

Speaker: Like that brazen attitude of it's nobody's business. It's nobody's business. You don't make money aside from people giving it to you. It is their business.

Speaker: The other thing, too, is like, you know, he say the Roy's report did an article on it, you know, talking about the ah the raid and stuff. And they mentioned, you know, like his son overdosing and stuff. That was one of the things that like the former members that left and spoke out against Locke, you know, were complaining about is that basically like his house was ah pretty messy and His sons and step sons were like selling drugs and doing drugs. And like there was like but weed smoke just emanating from the property. So there was an event. There was a thing that happened like last year where his house got shot up.

Speaker: Somebody fired 60 rounds into the outside of his house. And of course, Greg being Greg. 60. Yeah. sixty And Greg being Greg, he's like, this is the kind of thing that happens when you preach boldly from the word of God. Some people just don't want to hear it. And the devil and the enemy trying to shut you down.

Speaker: And meanwhile, it was like a drug deal gone bad between his like stepson and somebody that he knew or something. I mean, it's just... i don't ah You know, we're going to talk next maybe next week about Steven Anderson, another one of these like firebrand lunatic hate preachers.

Speaker: But it seems to be a constant theme is that these guys who are so like uppity and and and, you know,

Speaker: that that just have like bile to spill for everyone like when you start looking at their life and their family under a microscope at all it's pretty clear that like everyone around them lives in misery all the time like they have absolutely horrible marriages living situations relationships with their kids like it's all just a big sham And yeah Greg's just their example of that. I mean, he sucks so bad and it's terrible that his son, you know, i mean, it i i'm I feel awful for his kids and and, you know, it's a shame that his son overdosed, you know, but.

Speaker: He uses it. I mean, it just seems like he uses it like, yeah, ro on like his son dying whenever he needs a little sympathy. So like in the sermon where he's talking about the federal agents raiding his house, you know, he's he just like has to cue in on that once in a while just be like ever ever since Owen died, bo you know,

Speaker: And like, it feels like he doesn't care. He just weaponizes it for his own but means, his own whatever. is However, it's useful for him. That's when it'll come into play. Maybe he can't maybe he can't care in a way that we can recognize because he's a psychopath. He is. Yeah.

Speaker: Like I would be very comfortable. He cares at some in some weird level that doesn't really make sense for the average person. Like it's he's sad about it, but it's also useful for him to use here and there. He can't do he all he can ever do is filter everything through.

Speaker: How can this how can Greg Locke use this for personal gain? and i don't whether or not he's registering it like that is like that's what he does that's why what's happening with church funds is none of people's business it's it's he just doesn't think that he should be able to be scrutinized he thinks he's that he thinks he's special he's anointed by god This is the kind of crap that he posts to.

Speaker: um So he's having to like kind of publicly admit that like his church is falling apart. So it 300 on fire will always outrun 3000 asleep. The critics and media celebrated when our church attendance dropped from roughly 3,000 to 300 over six years. They called it judgment. They said the blessing had lifted. They danced like it was a funeral.

Speaker: They don't understand how God works. Look at Gideon. 32,000 men showed up. God said, too many. He cut them to 10,000. Still too many. He kept cutting until only 300 remained. Not because Gideon failed, but because God refused to let anyone say, we did this ourselves. With those 300, he routed an army like the sand of the sea.

Speaker: Like the sand of the sea. Oh, my God. The reduction was strategy, not shame. Look at Jesus. Multitudes followed for free bread and miracles. Then he preached the hard truth and, quote, Even the twelve had a traitor. At the cross, they all fled.

Speaker: Resurrection power wasn't hindered by the crowd leaving. It was revealed through the ones who stayed. This is the slingshot principle. Sometimes God pulls you back so the release can go further than anyone expected. Blah, blah, blah. My church is falling apart because I'm a fraud and a ski ag scan artist and everyone hates me.

Speaker: Oh my God. This isn't God judging me. This is a, this is the calling process. What I hate about him in this is, are you don't, you, there's no world in which if anyone came to him or he knew of anybody else with a sob story of like that, that approached anything like that, he would be like,

Speaker: They're weak. God's not blessing them. They're pussies. They're losers. They're like, he, he does not have sympathy for people whose ministries are failing, whose, you know, businesses are failing. He does not, he doesn't care into then for him to do that. If anyone said those words to him, he would, he would find a way to denigrate them and try to like bolster his own, like whatever his own network.

Speaker: It reminds me,

Speaker: of a lyric from, uh, from Oh Sleeper. Remember, uh, what is it? Like the, the fireborn resistance, a mortal will face them one on 1000.

Speaker: Greg Locke might be listening to a little bit of Oh Sleeper. Maybe. i don't know. Sounds like witchcraft to me. So yeah, Greg still sucks. Hopefully he's going to jail soon. He like, man, his like big tearful like sermon after the fact where he's like, they tear that tore apart our our house. they put my They pointed guns at my kids.

Speaker: they They pulled my wife out ah out of bed in her nightgown and her underwear, put us out on the on the front porch, and they were there for hours picking apart the entire house. They picked apart our garage, our chicken coop, and you know a a picture started to form over time, and you could see the demeanors change. They started to realize... Maybe these weren't the kind of people they thought they were. And he's like talking about the agents, like making comments to him that like they're not finding anything. And he you know, they they may have been mistaken. It's like no one said anything like that to you about a federal investigation. Yeah. They raided your house. You lying scumbag.

Speaker: give me a break i love how he's acting surprised like like this is the first time his kids have experienced the guns being pointed at them seems like that's not true based on what we know that point of guys to make it like that your whole family's used to this yeah it's uh i don't know it's a he sucks so bad it's just it's bizarre to watch someone just completely fall apart. It's all like the the most recent news was basically that, uh, he announced last Sunday that they were moving buildings in a week.

Speaker: So they were like tearing down the church that day to move to another building because they had They had like ended the lease with the the person that they were renting the current building from, the warehouse.

Speaker: Is the building his $1.6 million dollars home? I don't think so. don't think so. I mean, he's got the space in the acreage.

Speaker: Yeah, you would think. It seems like you could probably do something like that, but... ah Who knows? We'll see where it goes. But I have a feeling like ah I have a feeling that they wouldn't have been doing this investigation for two years if there wasn't like a pretty nasty ending coming at some point.

Speaker: Yeah, it um' it'll I'm really hoping it. But I i do wonder, though, under like under. I mean, if he could sell his home. and use that money to pay the million bucks that you have to pay at mara laga Mar-a-Lago for Donald Trump to give him the full pardon.

Speaker: i think he's got donald I think there's a Donald Trump pardon in his future. Isn't it crazy that this is still going on? i mean, like he must not have that great of a connection with him. You know, if this is still happening, it's all happened under Trump's administration. I know it is surprising. I think it's their way of fleecing him for a million bucks. I think they're just I think they're going forward with it. They're spending millions of dollars in taxpayer money to do the investigation.

Speaker: Who cares? Right. And then once he finally buy enough Melania coin when it came out, finally indicted. He can then pay an extra million dollars to Trump and then I'll be fine. And they'll be like, you know, you know what? You were good. to You were good to us about us during covid.

Speaker: Well, we'll we'll we'll do it. So we'll wait and see what ah what happens with old Greg. But you know, you had like a televangelist sort of story, too, didn't you?

Speaker: Yeah, so this was this is this is funny. It's just... It was a, there was recently this woman, um, her name, she goes by, Whitney Lynn, uh, Whitney Lynn evangelist or evangelist. Whitney Lynn is her Instagram handle, something like that. She, she's someone who just goes places. She is, she really takes the calling of the Lord very seriously to show up in public places, usually places where people can't leave immediately.

Speaker: Uh, there's, she, she gets off on this, like you're trapped in this moment. Um, and she recently, it was another one of those like viral moments of a woman witnessing to people on an airplane.

Speaker: Um, and so and he loves that. Yeah. And so this is, It was Alaska Air, Alaska Airlines ah just banned the Florida evangelist after preaching to captive passengers during flight delay. So this was, um I found this just, you know, article online, um pulling from a few different sources, people, a statement from Alaska Airlines, the Washington Post, and then a bunch of photos and videos from Whitney Lynn's Instagram herself.

Speaker: Um, but, uh, it says Florida evangelist, Whitney Lynn has been banned from Alaska airlines and its affiliated carriers after standing in the aisle of flight 708 from Orlando to San Diego to San Diego on July 30th and preaching to passengers during a departure delay.

Speaker: According to Alaska airlines, the crew became increasingly concerned that her behavior was affecting other guests yeah became increasingly aware is a wild thing. I'm going to play some of the video of her, um,

Speaker: doing, it doing the evangelism. It's bullshit evangelism. It's not even real. It's just, you're just, this is, this is checking the box Christianity. This is just viral clickbait bullshit Christianity. So annoying.

Speaker: Uh, But whatever, I don't even need to get into it more. She was banned. She's claiming Christian persecution about all of it. She's being a total pathetic loser about it. So ah here's some audio from, well, just to give you an idea of like what she's about.

Speaker: This is her um barging into a Chipotle and and in sharing the gospel with people at Chipotle. How you doing?

Speaker: Hey, how do you think Chipotle is good? Let me hear ya. Yeah, woo! It's so good, so good. Yeah, and you made it?

Speaker: Come on, kudos to you. But let me tell you what's even better than this food, is knowing Jesus Christ today. Jesus loves you so much that he died on the cross for all our sins, and he rose again in three days.

Speaker: So that's in it. She doesn't even say it right. She says Chipotle. I'm pretty sure she says Chipotle. Yeah, that's that's boomer pronunciation. But I don't think she's a boomer. I think she's like our age.

Speaker: Spiritually, she is. She wears a shit ton of makeup. It's like. it just There's like this fake, but I mean, she's, a she looks like she could be normal and just like a normal pretty 30 something year old woman.

Speaker: um She's got like that, ah that Mar-a-Lago flat face filter. Yeah. It's like a uniform color. She definitely has like lip injections. It's like when I, I always find it interesting when like, I don't know if this is a, you know, come this could be as, this could be sexist. I don't know.

Speaker: I don't actually care because it's really just about why Christians who do shit are stupid. Yeah. Because we shit on like constantly like the way these men dress and act and the pageantry and the showmanship.

Speaker: And for women too, it's just like, I don't believe that you take this seriously. I think you're more concerned with how you look. And how you appear to people than you are about like this message. This is just for this is you're just like a tick. You're just like that. I get a 12 year old tick talker that wants to jump over barbed wire with their skateboard like this isn't a real thing. This has no meaning. You don't believe this. You do this to like monetize your brand or some shit.

Speaker: So she gets kicked. it She gets kicked off of this Alaska air line. It's just, let's see. I got the, here we go. Can you tell me what's going on?

Speaker: You can't just tell me to get my stuff and then not tell me what's going on. Okay, so this is following yourself. It's following me. You speak of this stuff. It's following me. Okay. You're still not telling me? Huh? Still not telling me what's going on. So the kids don't feel ah safe with you?

Speaker: They don't feel safe? Oh, my gosh. I didn't know the message of of Jesus Christ was unsafe. Wow. do i do i have any ah Do I have any guns or anything like that? You can't say gun on a plane, you dumb idiot. No.

Speaker: safe So if I said something else, would that be okay? No, you're acting unhinged. I'll tell you what this is. It's called spiritual warfare. know Spiritual warfare. Demons don't like the name of Jesus.

Speaker: Yeah. And you're all demons. It's not unsafe to talk about the gospel. I didn't know. Is that a crime? Is it against the law? He's a physical person. you tell me that? Standing in front of you. Is it? Can you tell us?

Speaker: Is it against the law? Do have yourself? Is it against the law? I'm just asking you a question. I'm getting my stuff as I'm talking. yeah So can you answer to the question? got me know Is it against the law it answer any questions to preach the gospel? but i need torate You can. You sure can. Yeah.

Speaker: Yeah, you sure can. Wow. i hate her so much. um It is like it's like a little longer. I heard being like, oh, I didn't realize the gospel is unsafe. This is actually spiritual warfare. It's like that sounds unsafe. It sounds like you actually think it is unsafe and you're just being a lying bitch about it.

Speaker: It is. ah It is funny, like the evangelism approach of um the way that these people handle evangelism.

Speaker: from the sense in the sense of like, okay, if your goal is to actually like create followers of, of Jesus, right. It's the, it's the same. It's the, the equivalent of those like airplanes that drop like a big load of trout over a pond in the mountains, you know, yeah but it's like, these people never look down to see where they're at. They just hit the button and dump them all over the side of the hill. Yeah.

Speaker: It's a real Johnny Appleseed sort of approach. did this way so the act of The act of saying this out loud with people around, that is my calling.

Speaker: the The act of just like shouting these words into the ether while people are are present, that's evangelism and that's what Christ has called me to do. like It's hard to believe that erastream somebody is dumb enough to think that Yeah, it's like I know that there are people who think that that's like actually what they're supposed to do, and and they they they wholeheartedly believe that that is of a is a valuable thing to do.

Speaker: But there's a lot of it that just seems cynical, like I'm trying to get followers online, and so I'm going to go be a nuisance in a place that you're not supposed to. You know, like of all places to try this, why an airplane? Unless your goal is just to try to make headlines, you know? but And that's it. You do. I don't believe that anyone who does this actually, I think but because here's, this is what pisses me off about these kinds of people is that they'll act hyper literalist in the way it's like, go. It's Jesus said, go spread the gospel. Jesus also told this cool parable about how like, know,

Speaker: You can just like like throw fucking... And this is what they're... Okay, so they're they'll use it for an opposite reason of how I'd think of it. But they're like... You know, the the parable of the sower and the seeds and shit. It's just like, oh, some land on sand. Some land on rock. Some land in fertile soil. Some land in thorns.

Speaker: And then it's just like... that's their So that's their mentality is like... ah Yeah, some people will hear it and they'll be like, cool. But it's also like Jesus wasn't telling anybody that he was Lord and he was going to come back later and that everybody should like fall. Like it was very clearly a very ah different intent in that story. And the way that Jesus was presenting to people wasn't just like this, admit that Jesus Christ is Lord and it's coming back and judgment shall be upon Like, this is so stupid. This, what you're doing is so stupid and it doesn't work. It doesn't work. Nobody will ever hear that and be like, you have, you make good points. Now I'm curious about what you say. It makes people hate it more.

Speaker: It makes people hard like it it hardens people's hearts to it. So it's like they just want to go hyper literalist. That's all they do is they go when when it's convenient for them, they boil everything down to hyper literalism.

Speaker: But what she's going to do and what she does constantly is ignore Jesus' rebuke against like Pharisees for being whitewashed tombs and shit like that, where it's like, oh, you make yourself look like you're doing the thing and blah, blah, blah. It's like these people, they're just one lane, one track.

Speaker: idiots. I don't think they believe it. i don't I'm um'm kind of just overthinking any of these people have enough scruples to truly believe in anything. its Internet has made everyone have shit for fucking brains. It's just you you just a fucking mush up there. it' It's like...

Speaker: It's you're not a thinking but you're a robot. This person is like a fem bot essentially from fucking Austin power is where we're just in. She's not real. Everything. it just, she could be AI. She doesn't even have like emotions on her face. She's like, it's just like, you know, that Botox up look where like nothing really moves. It's just,

Speaker: Yeah. you There's nothing to you. You are a vapid, empty shell of a human. And all you do is go to enclosed public transportation spaces and ruin people's days.

Speaker: I hate people like this. And everyone, someone would be within their right. Like, I don't think, I don't really think I believe it in violence, but you can, I will not feel bad for you. If someone fucking decked you square in the fucking face, I would never, if I watched this video the other day of an ICE officer who showed up to the wrong protest.

Speaker: I don't know what he did, if anything, but he was like getting choked out and punched in the face. Like it was just people, not in a sexual sense, but they ran a violence train on this guy's face. They just, one after the other, just wailing. on I didn't care. And it's crazy to be at a point in my life where I don't care about shit like that anymore. Cause I was like a pacifist, nonviolent, whatever for so long. Like, and it'd be like, yeah, yeah, You, you're, you're, we all spent the last 20 years talking about how if like Nazis, like in Nazi Germany, if you stood up to a Nazi, you know, no one's, yeah, you did the right thing. You stood up to a Nazi.

Speaker: That's what I, this is just the fucking modern day, like USA version of the Gestapo. And they're just, if they're there, they shouldn't be, they're wrong. And it's okay if people stop them by whatever, whatever.

Speaker: uh let me walk that back i'm gonna actually walk what happened to the people that hit him uh nothing dude he was just like bleeding and that one guy stepped in to try to cool everything off like all right let's go they let him go but after a bunch of people hit him the ice officer kept trying to like come back and like be macho and shit um and the guy some of those guys just start shooting Yeah, they're lucky he didn't. So the guy who was trying to cool things off just kept being like, you man, you need to get out of here. You really need to get out of here. like he just kept trying to push him back. And you could see there was a gentleness to it. Like, I'm trying to help you out, bro.

Speaker: I just saw a really great video today of an ice officer getting pied. Someone with an actual like clown-style like like whipped cream pie walked up to an ice officer and just wailed him in the head with it and then took off running. And the ice officer tried to chase him, and then he slipped on the pie plate and fell on the ground and just was like screaming while everybody filmed and laughed at him. Fucking awesome.

Speaker: Playing the music in the back. i went I went off on a bit of a tangent. ah the I don't even know how I got here. um Violence. you There are spaces you walk into saying certain things, acting certain ways, and to not expect a form of violence to happen to you is just... stupid and i hate these people especially because she walks in all she's doing now dude so everyone you can don't follow her do not give her the follows but you can go ahead and watch them even though it gives her views ah she has eight parts on getting kicked off this plane eight parts i'm not gonna make everyone listen to them here if you're interested enough in this she has eight parts

Speaker: Eight fucking parts on getting kicked off this plane. And her just being like, and even the way she acts. it like I didn't know I was doing anything wrong. It's like, you are being so stupid.

Speaker: Like, to think that any way that you're behaving. You know what? All I remember is Christ going to get actually crucified and not really saying much about it. So maybe you should shut the fuck up and take your lashings. It is funny when they get when they get like confronted by authorities over something like this. And it's like, oh, is it against the word to preach the gospel? I mean, and what? what oh you're a you're you don't feel safe with me on the plane. It's like, no, because you're behaving erratically and you're violating social norms like we don't know what you're going to do. You seem like the type that could try to pull the emergency exit door.

Speaker: Yes, you're getting off this plane because everyone else, there's 250 people here who are just sitting quietly like normal people. You have stand ah stood up and made a spectacle of yourself. And now you're trying to, what, debate me out of, like, kicking you off? No, you're gone. And you're on the no-fly list.

Speaker: It's you and, you know, the the shoe bomber. ah Dude, what's so funny about that, too, is like what you said, like, you might pull the emergency door.

Speaker: Dude, that is... You're up here talking about Christ coming back in his judgment. Anything's on the table now. Like, I don't... you're you're You're already moving into ultimatum bullshit. So you're like, are you going to stand at the door and be like, who's going to accept Jesus Christ as their personal Lord and Savior? Like while your hands on the lever.

Speaker: it's It's so on. it's Those people are terrifying and they can't be trusted. And she's just a liar. She's just, it's just, it's pageantry. Cause she always just has her phone like in her hand held out, just like constantly flipping back and forth. Like you got your reward on earth, bitch. I can't wait to not see you in heaven.

Speaker: ah It is funny. Shit like this will make me go full Christian, dude. I'm like ready to be Christian again, just to get in a fight about it. At some point. Yeah. It, it does like,

Speaker: The appeal of Christianity comes full circle at some point when you just start to feel, you know, the world that we live in it's like, I really want to believe that there's punishment for some of these people.

Speaker: i i'm i'm tempted to go back to church just so i can believe that benjamin netanyahu is going to go to hell yeah but he's got a plot next to pete haggseth and it's deriv t true man you just want it's like oh my god and that's what's so funny is like christians will paint like people who are like gnostic and who have no actual belief about the afterlife as like believing what's convenient you're like no you're the child who gave into your base instincts and desires we've just surpassed it like we want that we want to know that people are getting punished in the afterlife that's that's like level one shit like we've upgraded and realized that just because we wish that was true doesn't make it true like

Speaker: You're not better than bleakest possible outlook is to think that nothing happens to people i like MBS. If he doesn't burn for eternity, then like I don't know. that That sends me into an existential crisis. like I need to believe there's punishment for some of these people.

Speaker: Yeah. it would be it would I'd sleep better at night. Well, speaking of eternal life, can i ah can I read you a story real quick? You sure can.

Speaker: Okay, let me pull it up here. While you're pulling it up, give a quick pause. So this is in the Christian dating advice, which I am still banned from. it' ah It reminds me every time I look it, it's very sad.

Speaker: I that. I really feel like I gave good advice on there too. But you were asking great questions. You were doing your best. And they honestly, they didn't give you like that, like for being a Christian, like a subreddit, like they they really didn't give you the grace that I think you deserved.

Speaker: No. I mean, I was literally like whittling a little hole in the echo chamber from the outside and being like, you're a little. Yeah.

Speaker: You can't have that. was it Is that what you're doing to the little hole or did you put your dick in it

Speaker: it? I watched a ah soft white underbelly this week about a ah grill that does like a glory hole service. Yeah. You were, you always see that title and you're like, Oh, this should be fun. and then you start the story. It's like, Oh, it's another molestation story. Okay. Oh, of course. Yeah. That's not very fun.

Speaker: Nope. Makes it less fun. Very fast. Very sad. but You're the, uh, you're the, you're the dick through the glory hole of Christian dating advice subreddit. That's what you became. And that's why you got banned.

Speaker: Dude, a vertical glory hole would be kind of funny. you know Are you laying on top of the glory hole? Like there's a hole a cot and someone's under the cot? Yeah, you're like you like ah a little baby foal going up for a suckle.

Speaker: that's The worst about that is it feels like you're legitimately like in a coffin. Like you just, but you've been buried alive. And the only thing you can do is suck on some random penis. Why are you face down in your coffin?

Speaker: No, the person who was sucking the penis, they're on their back. They're in the coffin. Oh, okay. Like caved in over there. It's like, you're just in this weird little box buried underground. And someone puts their penis in. I'll tell you what, dude, when I die,

Speaker: but Let me face up, but put a hole in the top of my car. I will. Dude, I would. you just put a little cha cook on me here and there. If I could put a glory hole in your coffin and not have your entire family murder me, I would.

Speaker: I know that that would make you so happy. I can spell it out in my will. hi Please, please do. I leave Sam my 44 Magnum and I mandate that he carve a glory hole in the top of my coffin. Actually, going to shoot a glory hole into the top of your coffin with the 44 Magnum.

Speaker: This plan is coming together. I like it. You know what? You know what? I think there is word that. I'm going have to add some pillows to the bottom, though. I don't know. like like i don't i think the average man, even the average man's penis wouldn't go through the top of their coffin. So we might have to do some work around it.

Speaker: I don't know. And above average, man. Coffins aren't not deep. They're fairly... they're holding up They're deep enough to hold a whole ass body with some room on top. i mean, you got to... I feel like as the middle class collapses, that might be one way that we can cut costs is like a shallower coffin.

Speaker: Yeah. What if it's just a coffin that's like 3D printed to the contour of your body? It's just like they're 3D printed to the, to the, all the curves of a naked body.

Speaker: What if they just put you in a foam tray and then wrap you in saran wrap like a like a burger? Like a chicken drumstick.

Speaker: They can even put one of those little like maxi pad things underneath you like ah like legit deli meats. yeah so Yeah. Oh, yeah. The the the seepage catchers.

Speaker: OK, so afterlife um is my boyfriend's grandma trying to tell me something. So for context, I was at my 20, 20 year old female boyfriend's 19 male.

Speaker: i i see what she was doing there, but that's a confusing way of listing it out. So she's 20 female. male 19. he's male nineteen I was at my boyfriend's house and we were taking a nap together right before you know what.

Speaker: His grandmother passed away years before we started dating when he was about eight or nine years old. We've been together for six years and are truly, truly in love. And our families love each other. And I genuinely, I can genuinely never picture myself with anyone else. The only issues. Eight.

Speaker: She died when he was eight. Yeah. the the only issues is that we sort of struggle with guilt having premarital sex since I am of Christian faith.

Speaker: When I fell asleep, I dreamed that I woke up in his bed and his dad had woken up too. I was asked, I asked my boyfriend, why is your dad awake so early? So he went to check and came back into the room and said, my grandmother is here.

Speaker: I said, oh, and immediately got up and somewhat struggled to put my pants on. And then she came into the room and said, hi, nice to meet you. And then I woke up. I know for a fact it was his dad's mom, as I've seen many pictures of her, even though i had never met her. She lived in that. It was just a dream. It wasn't anybody.

Speaker: It was just your brain. showing you images in your sleep. It wasn't actually her, but go ahead She lived in that home for many years before passing. I don't know if she was trying to tell me she approved of our being together to chill with the spicy stuff, get out of her house. How do you interpret this dream?

Speaker: So she, yes, she thinks that his dead grandma appeared to her in a dream, and it's either to condone their union or shame them for having premarital sex.

Speaker: The number one party pooper in all of Reddit chimed in and said, ah yeah, stop having premarital sex. God typically does not use dreams or signs about what to do about dating or marriage. But if God is going to use one, then it's usually about something important. Stopping premarital sex is pretty important.

Speaker: Thanks, Oberian Christian. You're the worst, most non-fun person on this entire app. I hate your guts and you suck. I hope you get banned. He banned me. I bet you anything he banned me.

Speaker: It has his yeah party pooper fingerprints all over it. Is he um a moderator? Yeah. Well, I think I think he comments on every single post, so he might just be a non mod like.

Speaker: Listless loser that's always on here to give people spiritual advice. He's the one that was like, ah you know, he gave he gave women a bunch of fashion advice and told them what body fat percentage to shoot for.

Speaker: yeah Just a cool guy. Love him. Yeah. This guy's sick guy rocks. Uh, yeah. So it's just people. It's exactly what you would think. It's just a bunch of people being like, don't have premarital sex. It's gets so dude, that's the most played out thing.

Speaker: It's a i was looking, I'm not going to read this one, but I was looking at one that was like, uh, where do Christian say, I found a couple about sex toys. Um, in Christian marriages whatever. And for the most part, everyone's like, yeah, you're married.

Speaker: Who cares? Um, and you find the occasional fuddy duddy. That's like, uh, like, Oh, it's that's ah one of them was like, it's an abomination.

Speaker: It's the same as mixing the profane with the Holy sex is a holy act. You prefer it with those things. You can just stretch every single thing over. yeah Yeah. Any, any verse you can just stretch over, uh, whatever issue.

Speaker: Someone goes, how though? Like genuinely asking how is it? Well, sex toys are a doorway. Doorways are useful. You fucking moron. You use doorways every day. You love doorways. You take a door into the bathroom. You take a door into the kitchen. Doorways aren't problems.

Speaker: Doorways are a part of life Maybe it's a doorway to fun. and It could be a doorway to fun. Okay, that's it's a whole separate tangent, but these people in doorways.

Speaker: I don't remember anything in the Bible about doorways, but it's constantly they're talking about doorways. was when God came to kill everyone's firstborn child, so people painted blood over them.

Speaker: ah right you do want to keep doors closed i guess that's the one fun thing god has to say about doorways what what is with i the filling the fill in the blanks nature of all of this like spiritual deliverance nonsense and like filling with blanks yeah fill my blank no that But like the Catherine Crick crowd of like people constantly talking about casting out demons and stuff. Like yeah they just they appropriate all this like doorway language, which is nowhere in the Bible. It's just like a Christian cultural thing of like, well, you know, a Ouija board is a doorway to the demonic. You've you've opened a doorway into your house by watching Friday the 13th.

Speaker: You know, where is this guy? Listen to this guy. it It doesn't. That's why you use slippery slope arguments because you don't have a real argument. So you need to like use conjecture to get people to where you want them.

Speaker: Um, listen to how quick this guy takes a turn. I wasn't actually going to get any, any the comments. I was using this to address the loser who commented on the one you posted.

Speaker: I mean, you talked about, but now I just can't, I can't not read this. It is the dumbest shit I've ever heard. And it's, is this the original post? Yeah.

Speaker: no yeah No, this is the person responding to sex toys saying they're abomination. And then someone goes, how though? I'm genuinely asking how they could be an abomination.

Speaker: And after underscore arugula7154 well, sex toys are doorway. well sex toys are a doorway It makes you find it okay to go into experimental sexual activities like couple swapping.

Speaker: And before you knocks it, now you are into sex dungeons, fetishes, and bondage. I can't believe that this is a real person. They're trolling. They have to be trolling. i have ah I got bad news for you, dude. Food is a is ah is a doorway to being a fat fuck.

Speaker: The Bible has a lot to say about gluttony. more More about gluttony than it does about sex toys, interestingly enough. That is true. the The Bible has more to say about coming on the ground and pulling out than it does about sex toys.

Speaker: Yeah, what about a toy that catches your jisms so they don't hit the ground and count against your record? It's just like an auto-felcher. Yeah.

Speaker: that should be the rule okay that's the rule like hey masturbation is bad if you if you spray it anywhere in particular if you recycle you can do it all you want you have to catch it before it's like a layup i mean it's like a rebound it's like catching there if you catch the rebound it doesn't count you're still like you you're still in it you still have a chance your penance is you have to smear it in your eyes za he go dude He's not done, though. it

Speaker: He doesn't stop at fetishes and bondage. See, the thing with perversion, it progresses from bad to worse. I mean, it's insatiable because it is demonic.

Speaker: Hence why you begin one thing, you gradually progress into worse one with time. Sex toys are the door. But soon enough, you will be swapping out spouses and doing God knows what when asked...

Speaker: You will have no response, hence why I reiterate, just keep it away from your bedroom. This guy is one of two things. He either has a woman chained up in his basement and feels a little bit bad about it, or he does all these things and feels bad about it like this Yeah, I would say he isn't clean he's either a total freak that is doing insane things or he's never had sex before. Yeah, i was just say or he wants to do all of it and feels bad that he watches all this kind of porn.

Speaker: So he just rages against it.

Speaker: Focus on the family has an article on this topic. The article called sex toys in marriage. Oh, wow. Appropriately named. Cool. I did find one where a guy responds to it. I can't find it now, but I was just laughing because it was like, yeah, like me and my wife use a dildo together.

Speaker: And someone responds like, like on you. And he's like, and he's like, yeah. And that it's fun and we both like it and it's consensual.

Speaker: And all the comments are like, ew, gross. Oh no that's too far. That's sin. That's inappropriate. It's just... That's so body funny. It's funny.

Speaker: I think it's one of those things, you know, you hear Christians say all the time, like, anything we do together is okay. So it's like, yeah, dildo's fine as long as it's double-ended and you both go...

Speaker: yeah A dildo is only fine. The only place a dildo can't go, apparently, in a Christian marriage is a dude's butt because you're gay You have to sit back to back and use like a bike lock style one. Just yeah ah I was.

Speaker: All right. I didn't get I got ah into that one a little bit. Unless you have a few more things you want to say about the one you were talking about before I a derailed. Nope. I'd like to close on Redditor's interesting and nuanced reflections on the new Spider-Man movie.

Speaker: Oh, because, okay. Because he's a bit, it's a little long, but this guy loves Spider-Man. Big fan, real big fan. and he saw the trailer for the spider-man movie it was like really excited and now after he' going to see it feels a little misled um he says hi i'm a new christian of about eight months was born into a christian family but only recently started to write re-commit myself to christ which okay you've been a christian your whole life shut the fuck up don't play these games

Speaker: I just want to put this out here to perhaps help other Christians who are thinking of watching the new movie. To start, I am a huge Spider-Man fan, so I was ecstatic when I saw the new one was being released.

Speaker: I booked one of the earliest tickets and brought my friend to watch. The essence of the movie was good. It was essentially about how Peter couldn't go through life alone and needed support from others.

Speaker: I've seen connections being made to how we cannot go through life without the help of God. Very nice. I love how he was able to just refocus it towards family. Shoehorn. is fun how like... the family They literally will shoehorn ham fisted spiritual message into any and anything and everything. You go watch the the like Daredevil 2003 and they're like, you know, there is a really powerful allegory built into the storyline. You know how a Colin Farrell kills the guy with a peanut and a paperclip or whatever. That's not unlike the, you know, the faith of a mustard seed.

Speaker: Like suck the fun out of literally even just watching a movie. You can't even watch a movie. You can't watch Lord of the Rings without turning it into a Bible study and making it miserable.

Speaker: We need, we've talked about this a while ago, but we should, um, start pulling like some of the focus on the family plugged in online reviews of, of movies. oh we should. That's great idea. That's what they do. Like this is that, like they they'll have a whole connect. They'll have a whole segment where they connect it to like spiritual things or whatever.

Speaker: Um, But anyway, so he goes on to say, but one thing caused me a lot of discomfort in the movie, something that I haven't heard being discussed at all. There was a huge theme of mind control in the film.

Speaker: It was to the point where it was almost full out possession. Someone would use a string of people to talk to Peter. Sorry, spoiler alerts, guys. There were scenes where it depicted the movement of his spirit slash entity between people, which quite unsettled me.

Speaker: I could feel that discomfort brought about by the Holy Spirit. I'm sure you could. I'm sure you knew exactly that it was the Holy Spirit. I'm sure you validated everything you think and believe with the God stamp of the Holy Spirit so no one can say fucking shit to you about why you're actually an idiot and you don't have to care about this stuff. Because you also can't shoot webs from your wrists, stick to walls and climb them. This is all make-believe.

Speaker: I hate these people. Yeah. they just They just draw this weird line in the sand on when your imagination becomes sinful. in a Marvel movie. It's so true. like You can create superheroes all the way up until the point where you're like Professor Xavier.

Speaker: Oh, now it's sin because he can mind. Shut the fuck up. this is These people are pathetic. Yeah. Plus you you, know, you get to have all the fun of going to see the movie and then you get to have like the, uh, the, you know, the, the spiritual one upsmanship of being like, I actually, because of my spiritual connection to God, parts of the movie made me really uncomfortable. And, you know, to be honest, I haven't heard anybody who noticed these things as much as I did.

Speaker: That is, a du and he came twice during sex is what happened. Yeah.

Speaker: <unk>s That's all the favoror those moments, fella. He was able to get it back up. Go again. <unk> Roll and get back. He said, honestly, I'm grateful that I was able to go.

Speaker: God taught me through this, that the enemy is so crafty and clever. And I shouldn't just automatically assume something is good or safe just because of how it is advertised. Yeah. The necessity of letting God guide you in every decision was made so clear to me, especially because of how much how such things are normalized in our society.

Speaker: So, among the myriad of positive reviews of this movie, I just want to post this as something to keep in mind to my fellow Christian brothers and sisters. Also, I want to emphasize that we do not need to live in fear of such evil forces, for he who is within us is stronger than all of them.

Speaker: Praise God. I cover myself and my friends with the blood of Jesus multiple times throughout the movie. but Wait, hold on. I covered myself and my friend with the blood of Jesus multiple times throughout the movie. That's more concerning than just any of your concerns. that mean?

Speaker: Uh, came home and did it again. Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker: i'm quite sensitive when it comes to horror horror- related things which i'm grateful to god for because it has kept me from dabbling in things i should not have when i was far from him but i've had no issues whatsoever oh wow the little evil marvel demons didn't come to haunt you after watching the movie glory be a christ yeah Thank God I've been able to withstand from a thing that I don't like. I'm really blessed in that I don't like this thing. And so I've never had to give it up.

Speaker: Thank God I've faced no affliction from things that aren't real, that can't hurt me, and that are just pretend. I wonder how often like ah this like I let God guide my every decision thing. I wonder how often that that results in you not doing a thing that you really want to do. It mostly probably results in like a 15 year old boy making someone perform a sexual act on them. They weren't comfortable with, but real quick, I got to cover us in the blood. I'm going to rub it in your eyes.

Speaker: I think we, that never I'm not going to go down this rabbit hole. Okay. Let me just close this guy out and then we can get out of here. Some of you may think I'm overreacting, but I think it's better to excessively guard your heart rather than allow yourself. I also hate that. I hate this disposition that like the better safe than sorry mentality for things that aren't real. Like,

Speaker: Better safe than sorry. Like makes sense when you're gambling, you know, better safe. And there makes sense. Like when you're right, when you're running late and going 100 miles an hour,

Speaker: There are times where that that that makes sense. It does better safe than sorry. What do you mean better safe than sorry? He already watched it. He's not even better safe than sorry. He watched the thing.

Speaker: Yeah. And like, what is the risk exactly? What exactly did you find problematic about the movie? you You don't like that one of the characters has like telekinetic abilities and they can control people's minds. Like, what is the implication there?

Speaker: Is it just he just wants to she's possessing guy like what is it that you're saying is bad about it? It's just the idea of like the character inhabited another person and forced them to do something. And that is kind of like possession. So it really troubled me about the movie. What are you talking about?

Speaker: Like, i just don't understand what what is the risk that you're the risk is. Let's say this was like a veiled a a a very like carefully veiled message about possession.

Speaker: What would that do to you? Like, what is the risk of that that poses to you as a person like you? is it somehow subtly going to like disconnect you from god is it going to open you to possession like i don't understand like what these people are they they just like why are they seeing a thing yeah would be i don't think they mean it for them either i think they mean it for every everybody else like dude i think he just wants to only one who saw at the movie i think he just wants to see the movie and not let his friends see it so he can be better than ah i Look, I've suffered. this is dude This is the mentality of the plugged in online focus on the family movie reviews because when they have to watch shit like like like Bridesmaids or i don't know i don't know. I don't know movies good. So like I can't pick something that's less than 20 years old.

Speaker: ah But like, it's like all these reviewers watching like, ah i I really had to suffer through this to tell other Christians that they shouldn't watch it. It's like, no, you just want to pretend like you're taking one for the team so you can watch whatever the fuck you want because you just write about it like you're on your high horse afterwards. That's all this is.

Speaker: He says, look, ah some of you may think I'm overreacting, but I think it's better to be to excessively guard your heart than rather to allow yourself to be slowly taken in by the world. And trust me, you aren't missing out when you abstain from certain things to honor God.

Speaker: I pray this will be a benefit for even just one person. Well, try it's not person who didn't abstain. You failed. And to say it trust me, missing out.

Speaker: It's better. Trust me. You aren't missing out when you abstain. Dude, this motherfucker said he was glad he saw the movie because he loves Spider-Man. It's like, shut the you're you're just a lying sack of shit. It just really got me thinking about how other movies have bad messages. Yeah.

Speaker: This one reminded me of a movie that might have a dangerous message. I'm glad I saw it but it did just, it was just a little reminder to be careful out there.

Speaker: You may find yourself watching something that is in fact dangerous to you somehow. It's just the same as like the thing we always bring up with like Christians who talk about game of Thrones being like, you got to fast forward through the sex stuff. It's, it's that it's just,

Speaker: This is why someone made a fucking billion dollars on angel eyes VCRs.

Speaker: What if um what if we offered a service kind of like, ah yeah, like the angel eyes thing? We're like, hey look, men have an an inherent weakness towards you know sexual perversion and stuff like that. you know like You can't be watching sex scenes. So what we're going to do is we're going to cut, recut these movies so that every time there is male-female sex scene, it's just going to cut to a us ah ah video of two men kissing.

Speaker: yeah ah It's like yeah you're so straight. It won't represent any temptation for you. You know, have you seen the big push? Like there's, it's been a few, I've seen it on Instagram a bunch lately, but it's like men only gyms to avoid lust.

Speaker: ah Okay. Curves for men. but Christian based men only gyms. So that way they don't get like lustful towards women. like dude It's just, you know, it's going to end with a ah bunch of like,

Speaker: with an FBI raid and a lot of pay for play gay sex. That's what this is. Yeah. That's where this is. That's like a same sex attraction support group. Yeah. it's like It's just gay in conversion therapy of Liberty. Yeah.

Speaker: yeah oh boy oh yeah god that uh wow that sucks yeah i actually have heard that that new star spider-man movie is pretty good i've heard good things i haven't seen a marvel movie in 15 years so i don't know but yeah i really just can't bring myself to go watch a superhero movie these days but i think i am going to the odyssey this weekend I do want to see that.

Speaker: um I've heard mostly good things, a couple of criticisms, but... I heard that it was too woke. Yeah, I heard it's so woke. I heard there's black people in it, and that's crazy.

Speaker: Oh, my God. We know black people didn't exist back then. And that it's DEI woke mind virus stuff that brought... as to where we are but um think of how movies are going to generate you know if we're this is the starting point right like just wait until they reboot toy story like toy story 6 is going to be a frank miller cut and they're replacing andy with j sonic

Speaker: just a plush of file that like uh He's just drilling a hole in that old teddy bear. yeah yeah It's a, it's Woody's dark origin story.

Speaker: It's like, I had a friend who had this like full ass size, like four foot tall Mickey mouse. And this is when you're like in like eighth grade, maybe not even, don't know, but it was like when you're first learning what it means to be horny and to get hard, know,

Speaker: And there was a hole in it. Did you pinch Mickey's thighs he was a whole There was a hole in his like Mickey, and he he eventually told us when he was a kid he used to fuck it.

Speaker: And that's so normal. That's like the kids do weird shit like that all the time. It's so funny. Is that Jesse? No. It wasn't. Shout out Jesse O. Someone I don't really stay in touch with anymore.

Speaker: but i if you could get a collection of like, do you remember? We don't need to get it into this now, but post secret. Yeah. was funny. I remember post secret when it was in its heyday. Cause like you would read a lot of the secrets and be like, Oh yeah, that's pretty normal.

Speaker: Uh, but it felt so dark and like hard to admit, post secret was like an online, like space for people. People would like anonymously share their secrets and that guy would like post them all.

Speaker: Uh, they, that they noted in a couch and now they're the vice president. Yeah, dude, he was there. Yeah. ah All right. All right. We get out of here.

Speaker: All right, everybody. Well, thanks for thanks for listening, and we will see you next time.

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