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S3-113: Adam Nelson, Premier Snow and Ice Management West Fargo ND
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The guys sit down with Adam Nelson of Premier Snow and Ice Management to hear about their snow operation out of West Fargo ND. Adam also fills the guys in on the new Kage Wing plow prototype he got to demo this winter.
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Transcript
Introduction and Guest Welcome
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RICK JAMES
Thank you.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
Let's get it, Snow Jobs Nation. We are back again, bringing you episode 113 of the Snow Jobs Podcast main show, powered by TopCon Backblades.
Podcasting Routine and Industry Punctuality
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The SnowJobs Podcast
As always, I'm Steve. That's right.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
You know who's with me?
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The SnowJobs Podcast
Snow pimp, Mr. Jeremy Lindstrom, Glacier Snow. What's up, Jay?
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RICK JAMES
Hey, and not a lot. Not a lot, Steve-O. Just another Sunday night recording for us here, so.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
ah We got like six hours to spare. We'll get it done.
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RICK JAMES
Yeah, always, always what we do.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
We'll get it done. oh and yeah it's another one. It's another deadline beater.
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RICK JAMES
Yeah, we're good at it.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
we are We are getting very good at it.
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RICK JAMES
We're better at the wire. We're better at the wire. and
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The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. yeah It's been another week.
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RICK JAMES
Just like snow under the gun.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
Yep.
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RICK JAMES
Under the gun, we're good. So too much time think about it.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
yep
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RICK JAMES
And then, yeah, shit. And he's doesn't perform.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
no Life gets in the way. I actually said today, I'm like, man, it kind of sucks at times doing episodes every week and not just like some of these podcasts I've noticed drop them whenever they feel like it.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
Like they'll drop one here, then they won't drop another one for 10 days. Then they'll drop another one four days after that. It's like there's no rhyme or reason to it. But, you know, we are snow guys. We're known for our punctuality and always showing up and getting it done.
Weekend Adventures and Guest Introduction
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The SnowJobs Podcast
So got to do it.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
We'll get it done.
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RICK JAMES
Yes, sir.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
Busy, busy.
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RICK JAMES
Yep.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
It was a busy hockey weekend.
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RICK JAMES
Was it?
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The SnowJobs Podcast
think I spent almost nine hours in the car over the weekend. Yeah, he was all over the place. Did really well, though. Good man. He played well. So it was it was definitely a worthwhile trip.
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RICK JAMES
Good.
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RICK JAMES
Good, good.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
Yep, yep. So what are we doing today, bud? we have ah We finally have a snow company from North Dakota on, from Largo.
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RICK JAMES
Yeah, finally. yep Got it. Finally found one.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
ah
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RICK JAMES
one
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The SnowJobs Podcast
ah we finally got one today we have adam nelson of premier snow and ice management out of west fargo north dakota and we're excited to talk to uh to the premier snow company in fargo
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RICK JAMES
Yeah, definitely.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
uh no bite i didn't get anything on that no no man i thought for sure that would be
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RICK JAMES
No. I got nothing. i got nothing against Adam.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
No, I know. Adam's the best. Adam's great. um I just like poking. Oh, man. But, yeah, then we're to have some fun with that for sure and hear about ah how another company in Fargo does the same snow and the same wind.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
I can't wait. That's going be interesting.
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RICK JAMES
Yeah, maybe you'll believe me.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
Do you have maybe he has different conditions on the other side, on the west side of town? I don't know. You know?
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RICK JAMES
Well, Fargo, West Fargo, they're all the same, Steve.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
Is it all the same? I don't know i mean, Fargo such a metropolis.
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RICK JAMES
Yeah.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
Who knows? You know, it could be huge.
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RICK JAMES
You wouldn't know. You
Weather Challenges and Snow Management
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RICK JAMES
never come here. You're scared to come here and push with the big boys.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
I did. Did you just hear what my hobby pusher?
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RICK JAMES
You're just a hobby pusher.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
That's it, baby. That's it.
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RICK JAMES
That's who you are, apparently.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
I'm not even me anymore. I'm not, you know, Steve, Steve is there all the time. Podcast. Steve is there all the time, right? How many times has podcast Steve been in Fargo?
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RICK JAMES
Arctic State, we're talking?
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The SnowJobs Podcast
There you go. Arctic Steve.
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RICK JAMES
ah Oh, yeah.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
Who's telling everybody's podcast Steve.
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RICK JAMES
he's He's coming back this week. I already got him i got already got i already got him in in a loader for a big storm coming this week we're supposed to get.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
There you
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RICK JAMES
you know Got to have an April storm in North Dakota.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
There you go.
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RICK JAMES
so
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The SnowJobs Podcast
Wait a minute. Who's calling for a big storm?
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RICK JAMES
yeah
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RICK JAMES
The doctor, the weatherman.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
ahlthough They don't like that.
Recent Episodes and Upcoming Events
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The SnowJobs Podcast
They don't like that. They don't like being called weathermen.
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RICK JAMES
yeah right
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The SnowJobs Podcast
What are you getting this week? I can't wait to hear.
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RICK JAMES
oh four to eight again yeah four to eight tuesday wednesday and we're everything's idling outside already ready to go so we're we're getting pretty nervous it's getting pretty nervous
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The SnowJobs Podcast
Four to eight. Ooh. When's it coming?
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The SnowJobs Podcast
All right.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
You're ready. You're ready. will you Will you live stream the dusting to 0.20 inches that you get out of it?
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RICK JAMES
I might as well.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
You might as well. You should.
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RICK JAMES
Hopefully it's the last time we go out. I mean, we haven't hardly been out this year, but um it's April. It's time to be done. Move on.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah.
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RICK JAMES
something different.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
You're going to be able to get the farmers out of the field if it does hit?
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RICK JAMES
i don't know. Yeah, those guys are, you know, might have to do something like normal, even though they don't when it's not here.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
They're probably planting already, right?
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RICK JAMES
Not here. they i mean, they would probably tell me they are, but no.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
Oh, man.
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RICK JAMES
No, it's salty or they are, I heard. but Yeah, yeah
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The SnowJobs Podcast
Well, we will keep our eye on that. See if Fargo gets April snow this year.
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RICK JAMES
big storm.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
be great.
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RICK JAMES
We April snore every year.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
When's April 1st? don't even know.
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RICK JAMES
think last year we had was it March 30th snow or something. i don't know if we Maybe it's something in April last i have to look in my book. but
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The SnowJobs Podcast
You sure it's not like an April april Fool's joke?
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RICK JAMES
No, it's always that bullshit too. but not
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The SnowJobs Podcast
It's legit. All right.
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RICK JAMES
yeah i I wouldn't say it's legit. i mean i mean Remember last time were supposed to get snow?
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The SnowJobs Podcast
Oh, four to eight sounds pretty legit.
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RICK JAMES
We had 48, what, two, three weeks ago, and we got like a couple of tenths.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
I know. I know. I just like poking.
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RICK JAMES
So, I mean, yeah, if it comes, no big deal.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
Shit.
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RICK JAMES
We'll handle it. It's freaking April. It's going to melt anyway. So we'll rip it off and go. so
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The SnowJobs Podcast
Don't push slush. Don't push slush.
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RICK JAMES
Oh, we'll push slash. Don't worry about that.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
People get mad, apparently, if you push slush.
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RICK JAMES
We will.
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RICK JAMES
just the Minnesota people, apparently that apparently a guy knows everybody's contracts or something. So according to that website,
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The SnowJobs Podcast
Oh, my good Lord. I just hope he knows he wasn't talking to podcast, Steve.
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RICK JAMES
um ah he knows Arctic Steve.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
Oh, man.
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RICK JAMES
He's a big deal down there.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
He is a big deal. he is a big deal. All right.
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RICK JAMES
love, I love everybody likes, i love how everybody knows how everybody's contracts are structured so they can tell everybody how what they to do, you know,
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The SnowJobs Podcast
So...
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The SnowJobs Podcast
Well, I mean, i don't I don't know anybody's contracts. I know we we can't leave slush. Even if it's below freezing, we can't leave it.
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RICK JAMES
I'm no shit. If you're a professional, you don't.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
So, yeah, I mean, well, yeah, I mean, it's yeah black pavement is black pavement. No, not slush covered just because you can see the black under it.
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RICK JAMES
yeah
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The SnowJobs Podcast
But, yeah, I'm not allowed to do. I don't know what the contracts are out there, but I'm not allowed to leave slush here with our contracts. So interesting.
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RICK JAMES
No, same here.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
Interesting. But anyway. Yeah, so we
Sports Talk and Equipment Discussion
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The SnowJobs Podcast
got Adam. him He's waiting. So we'll ah hit Top Gun, come back, do our week review. Good.
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RICK JAMES
Yep. yep
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The SnowJobs Podcast
All right. Here we go.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
All right, guys, we're back. So last last week, our week in review this week, last week we had two, actually, we dropped on you. We had Todd Dickerson of Top Dog Services. That was a lot of fun.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
Had a good time talking to Todd, right, Jay?
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RICK JAMES
Oh, yeah. Todd's always a good...
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The SnowJobs Podcast
We're going to get him back.
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RICK JAMES
Yeah, he's good shit. yeah he's
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The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah.
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RICK JAMES
ah like him. He's a fun guy to talk to.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
Absolutely. Absolutely. he's got He's got a good attitude.
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RICK JAMES
I mean...
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The SnowJobs Podcast
I like it. He's kind of lockstep with ah what we think. And he does a lot of interesting, really cool shit. So ah we're definitely going to have to have some of him and his crew back on.
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RICK JAMES
Pretty quiet, though.
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RICK JAMES
Yeah, i don't you know I think we got to pry a lot out him.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
What's that?
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RICK JAMES
you know He doesn't want to say much, you know?
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The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah, he's very, very, very close to the vest.
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RICK JAMES
Yeah. Yeah. I'm just getting tired. Yeah.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
ah
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RICK JAMES
That was great.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
No, that was a great conversation.
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RICK JAMES
Just just say, Todd, let's go. And he just takes off and lets you. There's not nothing to hide, he said. So let's rip.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
I love it. I love it. Looking forward to seeing him at Storks. I think he said he was going. So that should be fun if he makes it out there. And like I said, I'm looking forward to getting his guys back on with him and hearing about the airports and how they do things with those. What are they, multifunctionals?
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RICK JAMES
Yeah.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
Those machines?
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RICK JAMES
Yeah. Those things are, those things are cool.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
Those are cool. Those are cool as shit. Why don't you have one of those in Fargo?
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RICK JAMES
Believe
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RICK JAMES
ah believe it or not, we looked at one a few years ago on auction and they were bidding on it just because we had something that it might work maybe coming and that we're the only ones bid on.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
Did you really?
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RICK JAMES
So they pulled it off the auction and brought it somewhere else. So we were going to steal that thing for nothing.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
ah
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The SnowJobs Podcast
Who does? That's why they pulled it. Who does the ah who does the airport in Fargo?
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RICK JAMES
I know. That's,
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RICK JAMES
They have their own guys here.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
Oh, they do. Yeah, that's got to be a pain in the ass.
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RICK JAMES
they they They sub out well they sub up like the ah parking lots and stuff like that. and't That would be a nightmare, I think, to do because it's not always full of cars.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
Oh, I bet my bet.
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RICK JAMES
I mean, you've got to have heard that...
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The SnowJobs Podcast
But ah yeah, so we had Todd on Monday. What's that? Go ahead.
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RICK JAMES
I was saying, well, part of the problem there too, you gotta herd the bison and the wild mustangs off the runways and stuff. So, you know, it's, yeah.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
That's got to be a pain, man. Runway incursions are off the chart in Fargo.
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RICK JAMES
Yeah, I mean,
Snow Contracts and Management Strategies
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RICK JAMES
you're doing more than push the snow there. You're you're around the clock, you know you never know what's hurting.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
You're herding. You're ranching.
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RICK JAMES
You dogs out there, herding dogs. You got to spray God's juice on the runway.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
ah That's how I picture it. but Jesus. Oh, that's funny. Oh, man. So, yeah, we dropped Todd's episode on Monday. That's doing really, really well. a lot of people liked hearing what Todd had to say. And then on Thursday, we welcomed back Mr. Jordan Smith to the dustings.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
After winter hiatus, we are back. And we went through the storm equipment survey from 2024, the contractor survey. four hundred respond Over respondents.
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RICK JAMES
started to yeah was good
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The SnowJobs Podcast
That's really good.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
So we did part one on that, and that was a lot of fun. I thought that was pretty good. A lot of listens on that one, too. So guys are happy to be hearing from Jordan again. So thank you, Jordan, for coming on.
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RICK JAMES
yep
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The SnowJobs Podcast
What else we got? Storks. Everybody knows Storks Snow Alliance, April 26th. They got the welcome party the 25th of April ah put on by Case Construction Equipment. So that should be a good time. If you're going, we'll see you at Storks.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
ah The 24th, as we've said, multiple shows now is the Influential Encounters Women in Snow group meeting in Pennsylvania. ah That's in conjunction with Storks' event. Uh, so yeah, if you're interested in that meeting, uh, you can find
Guest Interview: Adam Nelson
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The SnowJobs Podcast
more information at influential encounters.com snow jobs nation store as always open and stocked.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
All right. Backpacks should be there in, uh, three days. I think I saw, think they're, they're on their way.
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RICK JAMES
Oh, they're coming here.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah. Yeah. I'm shipping them right to you. Uh, and then yeah, like, and subscribe on whatever platform you listen to us on.
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RICK JAMES
Cool.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
That's it. You got anything else, bud?
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RICK JAMES
Yeah, we just got to figure out that plow deal too at some point here.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah, the Snow Jobs Nation Arctic. That'll be sick.
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RICK JAMES
Yep.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
i i Don't quote me, but I think it's going to make an appearance at Storks. I think the the Arctic boys are bringing it out to Storks, and they might they might make the rounds with it through the shows.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
It might be on their show trailer, so maybe we'll just ah sell raffle tickets for it or whatever we decide to do throughout the summer, generate interest and let everybody see it. And then after show season's over, then somebody can take it home from quip.
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RICK JAMES
Yeah, definitely.
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RICK JAMES
Yeah, that'd be cool.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
That would be cool.
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RICK JAMES
mean, you know,
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The SnowJobs Podcast
I can't wait to see it. It looks, i mean, the pictures, don' I'm sure don't, Spencer says the pictures don't do it justice, but the pictures look badass, so I can't wait to see it in person. They said that that metallic black or whatever they painted in really jumps off the page at you.
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RICK JAMES
Yeah. know You know Arctic boys, they do everything right. So, can I just call Big Daddy and tell him we're going to get 48 inches. He'll probably come up here. He wants to plow here.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
I bet you he would.
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RICK JAMES
So, bring the Arctic boys here.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
I bet you he would.
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RICK JAMES
That'd be pretty fun.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah, have them all start out for your two-tenths of an inch dusting that you're going to get out of it.
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RICK JAMES
I think I'll call them tomorrow. ah we got we can always go to the brick house.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
ah ah Ah, the Brickhouse. They should be paying us for as many plugs as they get on here. The Brickhouse.
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RICK JAMES
They should, yeah.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
I got to see this place.
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RICK JAMES
Yeah.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
I got to get out there and see this place.
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RICK JAMES
It's just a standard mark.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
Oh, man. Did you go to any of the college hockey this weekend in Fargo?
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RICK JAMES
Nope, did not.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
No. It was at the Shields Center, I think.
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RICK JAMES
I know. that's coming I thought Minnesota was in it, but apparently they lost on Thursday or something.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
They lost.
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RICK JAMES
When I turned it off, they were up by like two goals or something, so I turned it off.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
They did.
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RICK JAMES
i was like, huh, they won that, and then apparently not.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
Dude, lot of upsets this weekend. lot of upsets in college hockey. So, yeah, it'll be interesting.
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RICK JAMES
Right now, it's Denver. Denver Boston College is on my TV right now. and Actually, my RDO salesman, John Lee, he's played for Denver.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
Who's winning that?
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RICK JAMES
He's a Denver guy.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
Really? Really?
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RICK JAMES
He's You know, Johnny thinks he's a big deal, so...
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The SnowJobs Podcast
Oh, okay. ah
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RICK JAMES
Yeah, just got to plug John Lee once in a while. Just got to give him some shit.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
Well, what's the score? Because I'm not watching it right now.
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RICK JAMES
Two to one, Denver, and a minute and a half left.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
Really? Wow. If BC went down, that'd be a big, big upset. Big upset. Wow. All right.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
You got anything else for the week of review? Otherwise, we'll get on with this.
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RICK JAMES
Just rambling, just rambling now, so.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
All right, cool. So let's hear from our partners, and we'll be back, and we'll get into this with Adam.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
All right, we are but back. So let's get into this. All right, let's
Industry Challenges and Trends
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The SnowJobs Podcast
welcome to the show Adam Nelson. All right, of Premier Snow and Ice Management, West Fargo, North Dakota. Adam, what's up, bud?
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Adam Nelson
What's going on boys? so
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The SnowJobs Podcast
How we doing?
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Adam Nelson
Just getting the loaders ready to go.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
they yeah Are yours idling too and warming up?
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RICK JAMES
but
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Adam Nelson
Yep.
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RICK JAMES
yeah
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Adam Nelson
Pull them out.
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RICK JAMES
well Yeah.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
ah
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Adam Nelson
And wipe the dust off.
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RICK JAMES
We're all ready.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
Oh, man.
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RICK JAMES
First, first we got to jump.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
Are your weather guys saying the same?
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RICK JAMES
First.
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Adam Nelson
Yeah, they all suck.
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RICK JAMES
Yeah.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
ah
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Adam Nelson
They all suck.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
That's great that That's it That's it Batten down the hatches Alright Jay you want to take us away bud
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Adam Nelson
They got to sell their milk and bread, you know.
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RICK JAMES
ah
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RICK JAMES
yeah
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RICK JAMES
Yeah, you bet. All right, Adam, let's tell everybody about Premiere. You guys got started what you're all about.
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Adam Nelson
Um, yeah, we, uh, snow management company that kind of morphed out of our construction company. Um, that's kind of what our bread and butter is, is construction remodeling, uh, residential and commercial. But, uh, yeah, we, uh, we started in 2012. Um,
00:16:40
Adam Nelson
and we, uh, kind of just grew it from there, I guess it was slow and slow girl but it's kind of the way to do it i feel ah got a couple other entities that uh try to do the old fast burn but they don't they don't go so well
00:16:52
The SnowJobs Podcast
Nice.
00:16:53
RICK JAMES
yeah
00:16:59
The SnowJobs Podcast
I hear you. Well, I mean, you must be doing something right. You're the premier snow company in Fargo.
00:17:08
The SnowJobs Podcast
ah
00:17:08
Adam Nelson
yeah that that we are there is there is it there is another premiere in town
00:17:08
RICK JAMES
That is true.
00:17:10
The SnowJobs Podcast
I'm going to stir this up.
00:17:15
The SnowJobs Podcast
There's yet a second premiere.
00:17:15
RICK JAMES
Yeah, there's another premiere too. Yeah. Yeah.
00:17:19
Adam Nelson
Oh yeah, you gotta watch out.
00:17:19
The SnowJobs Podcast
How can you all, how can you all be premiered?
00:17:22
RICK JAMES
And they're like couple blocks and away from each other.
00:17:24
Adam Nelson
We're the OG though. We're the OG.
00:17:28
The SnowJobs Podcast
Do you not have like protections against people naming their companies the same stuff in North Dakota? Like here, you wouldn't be able to do that.
00:17:35
Adam Nelson
ah I mean, there's only so many names you can come up with.
00:17:39
The SnowJobs Podcast
I guess.
00:17:39
Adam Nelson
But they all they all got trailered by something else. Like ours is snow and ice management. The other guys are equipment and things like that, but
00:17:48
The SnowJobs Podcast
Gotcha. All right. Sounds good. Sounds good. So you said you guys, your snow company now, do you still do the remodeling and stuff?
00:17:52
Adam Nelson
yeah.
00:17:58
Adam Nelson
Yep. I mean, that's kind of still what our kind of bread and butter is. I guess we, uh, mainly focus on that. And I have a partner too, Brian, he's, uh, him and I have done everything together. I mean, we were best friends growing up, so we kind of, uh, we all worked for different, uh, construction guys in town and, uh,
00:18:19
Adam Nelson
2012 we finally had enough and said hey we gotta to start doing this uh on our own and that's kind of when we created our llc and then it still took us another probably a year and a half to uh pull the pin and kind of just fully go out on our own but at that point we were set up you know it was nice to kind of get into it that way a lot less uh stress can kind of hit the ground running you don't have to worry about what's going on you got money in the bank and
00:18:35
The SnowJobs Podcast
Gotcha.
00:18:47
The SnowJobs Podcast
Amen.
00:18:48
Adam Nelson
We already had a skid steer and a truck plow and everything else. So that was our winter plan. And we do a lot of interior stuff too. So it's kind of, I mean, weather isn't like a huge factor in our construction side, but it still does help things out when the weather's nice, I guess, but.
00:19:06
The SnowJobs Podcast
Absolutely. So what services do you guys offer, Premier? Like, what do what do you guys do for snow?
00:19:14
Adam Nelson
up Pretty much the same, I guess, as everybody else. Just move the white stuff off the parking lots, spread the salt around, and the piles get too big, you haul the shit out.
00:19:27
The SnowJobs Podcast
You don't do brine at all?
00:19:29
Adam Nelson
No, I haven't got it.
00:19:30
The SnowJobs Podcast
I've heard it doesn't work in Fargo. I've heard it doesn't work.
00:19:32
RICK JAMES
so
00:19:34
Adam Nelson
I'm going to be honest.
00:19:34
RICK JAMES
It
00:19:35
The SnowJobs Podcast
Bye.
00:19:36
Adam Nelson
The goddamn wind blows so much.
00:19:37
RICK JAMES
it works fine. It works fine.
00:19:40
Adam Nelson
I feel like the wind blows so much, it's almost ah I mean, sometimes even salting, I feel like is an issue with, with the way the wind blows and stuff around here just creates problems with things sticking and stuff like that. And I feel like if you spread a bunch of liquid around too, it's going probably do the same thing.
00:19:56
Adam Nelson
I mean, I feel like you're going to have your best, uh,
00:20:04
Adam Nelson
liquid program, it's going to be on your sidewalks. And then if you're dealing with like obviously parking ramps or something, that's a little bit out of the ordinary that you can't use salt on or whatever. That's kind of your only go-to there.
00:20:16
The SnowJobs Podcast
Gotcha.
00:20:16
RICK JAMES
You know, well,
00:20:16
The SnowJobs Podcast
All right.
00:20:17
Adam Nelson
Other than that, I, I feel like it's kind of a waste.
00:20:23
The SnowJobs Podcast
All right.
00:20:24
RICK JAMES
well you gotta get educated and adam come on.
00:20:26
Adam Nelson
Yeah.
00:20:26
The SnowJobs Podcast
Oh, there we go. There we go.
00:20:29
RICK JAMES
ah I think we've done by 100,000 gallons.
00:20:30
The SnowJobs Podcast
That's funny.
00:20:31
Adam Nelson
How much, how much have you spread this year?
00:20:36
RICK JAMES
Brian.
00:20:39
The SnowJobs Podcast
And that is angry Brian for the record. Extremely angry, highly agitated fire, Brian.
00:20:41
RICK JAMES
fire brian
00:20:43
Adam Nelson
Agitated.
00:20:45
RICK JAMES
by 90 of a leaked out the tank, but I'm just kidding.
00:20:48
The SnowJobs Podcast
but
00:20:49
RICK JAMES
but No.
00:20:51
Adam Nelson
i hardly, i hardly ever see your guys' brine truck around, I guess.
00:20:51
RICK JAMES
How
00:20:54
Adam Nelson
i don't know. Are you using it at the hospitals or what?
00:20:57
The SnowJobs Podcast
Stealth. steal
00:20:58
RICK JAMES
do they go? Quite a, they go, they go everywhere all around town, honestly. So, but yeah, we should do it more, but sidewalks are becoming more and more putting them a lot on sidewalks and stuff.
00:21:09
RICK JAMES
So, yeah.
00:21:10
Adam Nelson
I feel like that's kind of the way. I do wish that at some point we should get ourselves into that. I feel like it's just so much cleaner and then you can just kind of, yeah, have a guy go out and if as long as you got enough manpower or whatever, I feel like that's kind of the way to do it is have somebody follow behind you and then you can get like on those curb lines and stuff too.
00:21:18
RICK JAMES
nothing tracking in. So, yeah.
00:21:31
Adam Nelson
That's always the toughest part between the parking lot and the
00:21:35
Adam Nelson
sidewalks or whatever up in front of the buildings, I feel like that Brian would kind of help that factor out quite a bit.
00:21:36
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yep.
00:21:39
RICK JAMES
Yeah.
00:21:42
The SnowJobs Podcast
Absolutely. Absolutely.
00:21:42
RICK JAMES
So what do you, what are you guys all doing? Adam, you guys commercial residential? What do you guys all have?
00:21:48
Adam Nelson
ah Pretty much all commercial. We dabbled with some residential probably eight years ago or something like that probably. And those, in a sense too, were they were all just like vacant rentals that needed to be done.
00:22:05
Adam Nelson
Um, so they were kind of nice cause the day after it quit snowing or whatever, you could get some rest and then go out and bang out 40, 50 houses or whatever, which was, it was all right. But sometimes you get into some, I mean, we had some problems with, uh, back when it actually snowed around here,
00:22:24
RICK JAMES
Mm-hmm.
00:22:24
Adam Nelson
and these empty rentals, I mean, guys got garbage cans in the driveways and the drifts get eight, 10 feet high coming off the houses. Then you go try to move snow on a driveway and push a garbage can through a garage door.
00:22:36
Adam Nelson
And then you're buying a $4,000 garage door and just doesn't make sense. But yeah, we, uh, that was short lived kind of got out of that.
00:22:41
The SnowJobs Podcast
Nope.
00:22:46
Adam Nelson
So it's more, uh, We like the commercial. I'd like to get more on the industrial side, but there's just all so many of those places around, you know, and Jeremy's got them all already.
00:22:59
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah.
00:23:02
RICK JAMES
to No. i' I'd like to get more industrial too.
00:23:05
The SnowJobs Podcast
ah ah
00:23:05
Adam Nelson
Just kidding.
00:23:07
RICK JAMES
Industrial is just, I mean, we have couple on industrial or parks, but there's nothing like that huge in industrial around here. you know
00:23:15
Adam Nelson
Yeah.
00:23:15
The SnowJobs Podcast
yeah
00:23:16
Adam Nelson
Yeah, I feel like that's, I mean, there's sidewalks are minimum. You can put big equipment on there. You can get guys that know what they're doing, I guess, and just kind of park at a place for a while. I mean, that's kind of where I would like to be, especially with just getting into bigger and bigger equipment and things like that.
00:23:31
Adam Nelson
Like, i mean, that's obviously the goal, but like Jeremy said, there isn't a whole lot of those places around either.
00:23:33
The SnowJobs Podcast
Absolutely. So you're...
00:23:38
Adam Nelson
So it's kind of hard to get into it when they're just not there. Yeah.
00:23:43
The SnowJobs Podcast
Well, is Fargo, I mean, Fargo is still growing, right? Like you're not, you're not landlocked or done, right? The Fargo still expanding.
00:23:51
Adam Nelson
I mean, for the most part, yeah.
00:23:54
RICK JAMES
Yeah, we're not surrounded by an ocean or anything, so.
00:23:56
The SnowJobs Podcast
No. and
00:23:58
Adam Nelson
soon Soon to be a $10 billion dollars diversion that'll landlock us a little bit, but we'll see if that ever completely finishes or not.
00:24:03
RICK JAMES
Yeah.
00:24:06
The SnowJobs Podcast
What's that?
00:24:08
Adam Nelson
We got a Red River diversion.
00:24:09
RICK JAMES
Well, the version. Waste of money.
00:24:12
Adam Nelson
Starts on the south side of town, goes all the way out to the west side of town, and dumps back in the river on the north, and
00:24:14
The SnowJobs Podcast
Oh.
00:24:21
The SnowJobs Podcast
Didn't even know about that.
00:24:21
Adam Nelson
That'll kind of, it'll take, I mean, they've been working on it for shit, probably five, maybe even 10 years at this point.
00:24:21
RICK JAMES
So.
00:24:31
The SnowJobs Podcast
So just the site planning is done?
00:24:31
Adam Nelson
Uh, it'll probably take, there's a, they got a lot of ditch out there.
00:24:36
RICK JAMES
but They moved a lot of dirt. I mean, it's all for nothing.
00:24:39
Adam Nelson
That's for sure.
00:24:40
RICK JAMES
Yeah, those they made... Yeah.
00:24:43
The SnowJobs Podcast
How big is it?
00:24:43
RICK JAMES
They make a lot of bridges. How big?
00:24:46
The SnowJobs Podcast
like how wide, how deep.
00:24:46
RICK JAMES
It goes quite a few... I couldn't even tell you. Don't pay attention to it I mean, it's it's probably...
00:24:52
The SnowJobs Podcast
Okay.
00:24:53
RICK JAMES
Is it 20 feet deep, probably?
00:24:54
Adam Nelson
I would say 20, maybe 30.
00:24:55
RICK JAMES
20, 30? Yeah. Probably...
00:24:57
Adam Nelson
I guess you're going from like a bridge to deck or something, it crosses the interstate in a couple highways or whatever.
00:25:02
RICK JAMES
A couple hundred feet wide probably or maybe, right?
00:25:03
Adam Nelson
Yeah.
00:25:05
Adam Nelson
Yeah.
00:25:06
RICK JAMES
Yeah.
00:25:06
The SnowJobs Podcast
And what are they doing this for?
00:25:06
RICK JAMES
I don't know. Oh, we had a we had some floods back in the day. Fargo got flooded or didn't even... We didn't get... The low areas got flooded and and then they they thought we should build a fucking ditch around the town.
00:25:19
RICK JAMES
So they're buying everybody's and buying everybody's farmland up and doing all this stuff.
00:25:20
The SnowJobs Podcast
Dig a moat. Yeah.
00:25:24
RICK JAMES
and
00:25:25
The SnowJobs Podcast
Dig a moat.
00:25:25
RICK JAMES
Just a big waste.
00:25:26
The SnowJobs Podcast
There it is.
00:25:26
RICK JAMES
Big waste of money is what it is.
00:25:27
The SnowJobs Podcast
ah
00:25:28
Adam Nelson
Yeah, and they kept shoving it down our throat saying it was going to cost this much and this much, and by the time we're all done with it, it's going to probably like $8, $9, $10 billion. I don't know. It's a shit ton of money.
00:25:41
The SnowJobs Podcast
Oh, my goodness. The government was off on their projections. I'm shocked.
00:25:45
RICK JAMES
yeah
00:25:45
Adam Nelson
Yeah.
00:25:45
The SnowJobs Podcast
I'm absolutely shocked.
00:25:46
RICK JAMES
Well, I'm sure you're paying for it, so some what you're paying for it, Steve, too, so don't worry.
00:25:48
The SnowJobs Podcast
ah I'm sure we are.
00:25:50
RICK JAMES
Yeah.
00:25:50
The SnowJobs Podcast
I'm sure we are somehow. ah That's great. Well, if Minnesota ever tries to invade, you can just pull up all the drawbridges, right? And then there you go.
00:25:58
RICK JAMES
Yeah.
00:25:59
The SnowJobs Podcast
Keep them out. Oh, man. So you're doing commercial sites.
00:26:01
RICK JAMES
ah
00:26:03
The SnowJobs Podcast
Gotcha. And your market is basically the same as Jeremy's, right? So you're 50 to 55 inches annual snow and your types of storms are, you know, the same as as we've heard from the Fargo boys there from Glacier.
00:26:16
The SnowJobs Podcast
ah So you're like normally what? One to two, two to four with a lot of wind, making it like 12 inches in spots.
00:26:24
Adam Nelson
yeah Yeah, they normally call for eight, and we get.8, and it blows for four days, and then it blows from the other direction for another four days, and got to move the same shit four times.
00:26:24
The SnowJobs Podcast
Pretty much.
00:26:31
RICK JAMES
Yep.
00:26:37
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah. ah One side of town has green grass.
00:26:38
RICK JAMES
Yep.
00:26:40
The SnowJobs Podcast
The other side has a foot and a half and it only snowed 1.2 inches. ah
00:26:44
Adam Nelson
Correct.
00:26:45
The SnowJobs Podcast
It's incredible.
00:26:45
RICK JAMES
enough far not Not far off. so
00:26:48
The SnowJobs Podcast
No, it's incredible. I can't even imagine it. That's crazy. Oh, man.
00:26:52
Adam Nelson
sucks.
00:26:53
The SnowJobs Podcast
You know, since you guys are both, you guys both have the same conditions when that happens, like you've pushed a lot, say twice, the storm is over.
00:26:53
Adam Nelson
I moved
00:27:01
The SnowJobs Podcast
The wind picks up the next day, starts blowing the powder back and forth. If you guys are on a seasonal, like or Or let's not even say seasonal. If you guys are doing it like T&M, you're still getting paid for that, right?
00:27:12
The SnowJobs Podcast
Like that's on the customer to just keep paying if the wind keeps blowing it back and forth, back and forth.
00:27:12
Adam Nelson
it.
00:27:17
The SnowJobs Podcast
That's awesome. All right. Well, at least that's good. What about on a seasonal? Because you could be doing that 55, 60 times in a...
00:27:24
RICK JAMES
part of your seasonal, man. It's part of your seasonal.
00:27:25
The SnowJobs Podcast
Wow, that's tough.
00:27:26
Adam Nelson
Yeah,
00:27:27
The SnowJobs Podcast
That's a tough estimate, though. if you like estimate, okay, well, we have 25 or 35 events, say, and now the win it's a windy winter, and you end up having to do the same lot 60% more than you did because of the wind, not actually because of the snow. like a really There's no provisions in the contracts for that?
00:27:47
RICK JAMES
no
00:27:48
The SnowJobs Podcast
Wow.
00:27:50
Adam Nelson
that'd be a, yeah, that's brutal.
00:27:50
The SnowJobs Podcast
All right. Look at that.
00:27:53
Adam Nelson
I mean,
00:27:53
RICK JAMES
I don't know what kind of I don't know kind of clause you put in them.
00:27:54
Adam Nelson
jeremy Jeremy knows a lot more than me with these seasonals because he's got all the seasonal accounts in town wrapped up, so I don't have many of them.
00:27:56
RICK JAMES
Yeah.
00:28:03
The SnowJobs Podcast
ah
00:28:04
Adam Nelson
yeah
00:28:04
RICK JAMES
Yeah.
00:28:05
Adam Nelson
we ah Honestly, are most of our stuff is all either per per perion per push or T&M.
00:28:14
The SnowJobs Podcast
So you're like this.
00:28:15
Adam Nelson
I'd say it's pretty much fifty fifty I got one seasonal, and it's like ah a favor for some people across the road from our shop here. Um, and honestly they, uh, it's a, uh, indoor shooting range.
00:28:29
Adam Nelson
So, uh, we get like, like a corporate pass to go shoot and stuff in, in the place.
00:28:30
The SnowJobs Podcast
nice
00:28:34
Adam Nelson
And then we use their parking lot for our guys to park in, uh, just cause don't jam up the parking lot when, uh, you get 30, 40 guys come in here or whatever.
00:28:40
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yep.
00:28:45
The SnowJobs Podcast
So then, like...
00:28:45
RICK JAMES
Well, you gotta sell more seasonals then. You gotta sell it.
00:28:47
Adam Nelson
Yeah. Yeah.
00:28:48
RICK JAMES
You gotta eat your floors and ceilings.
00:28:51
Adam Nelson
It's tough. Honestly, I've been trying to, like some of our smaller, like office park style places, um I feel like they might benefit from it. The last couple of years I've kind of tried to push for it, but obviously the way the snow has been the last couple of years, it's a freaking brutal sell.
00:29:05
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah.
00:29:06
RICK JAMES
Right.
00:29:07
The SnowJobs Podcast
That's a tough sell. Yeah, tough sell after the last two winners you guys have had.
00:29:09
RICK JAMES
it it's It's tough, but yet I know A lot of more people are wanting to budget now. So, if they you know, they want to have a number too.
00:29:16
Adam Nelson
Yeah. Yeah.
00:29:19
RICK JAMES
So, but you got to have those bad winners in there to make them want that too. So.
00:29:24
Adam Nelson
For sure. Yeah. It's been, I don't know. It's kind of weird. I mean, for the most part, like, mean, for our first, first probably four four years in business, we were a sub for another company in town.
00:29:37
Adam Nelson
Um, so I mean, it's really only been probably eight, nine years, I'd say that we've been doing it like fully on our own. Um, and everything up to then is just, like i said, I've been, uh,
00:29:52
Adam Nelson
schools we do a bunch of schools um for town or whatever and uh those are per push which are kind of on a tiered system which jeremy knows uh he does some of the same so those are like zero to three three to six six to nine and so on which i don't mind those and then like if you get kind of those blowing actions or whatever you go and clean up hourly after that so that's it's nice
00:30:01
RICK JAMES
Yep.
00:30:12
RICK JAMES
TNM.
00:30:16
The SnowJobs Podcast
It's great as long as you get snow
00:30:19
Adam Nelson
Honestly, I want the seasonals for the most part because it's freaking makes billing so much easier.
00:30:19
RICK JAMES
Yeah.
00:30:24
Adam Nelson
Going through all your hours and shit's a nightmare.
00:30:25
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah I bet I bet.
00:30:28
RICK JAMES
Yeah.
00:30:29
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah, I still haven't even finished up February yet. I'm still working on it, trying to figure out, because we have a bunch of non-seasonals or clauses in there that activated. So I got to figure out what to charge who, and I just haven't had the time. So yeah, doing what you guys do, figuring out all your T&M and stuff, that's that's got to be a nightmare.
00:30:48
The SnowJobs Podcast
It really does.
00:30:48
Adam Nelson
Yeah, it normally takes me a couple days. I do a bunch of that stuff myself. So, it yeah, you get them all out and print off each each account and go through it all and put her to a bill and repeat.
00:31:05
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yes, sir. Oh, what do you think, Jay? You want to do the Dinesse leasing equipment portion? The Jeremy Lindstrom special?
00:31:12
RICK JAMES
Yeah, you got it right. Adam, tell me about all your equipment you guys got. Everything everything in the house.
00:31:21
Adam Nelson
Um, yeah, so I guess in-house we got, uh, five loaders, all cat, uh, like 930 to 938 size.
00:31:32
Adam Nelson
Um, uh, skid steers, all cat, uh, either 262 wheeled skids or a couple of 289D, uh, track machines.
00:31:45
Adam Nelson
And then, uh, tractors got a couple, uh, Smaller, like 30, 39 size John Deere's. And couple trucks.
00:31:57
Adam Nelson
Salt truck. The old ghetto salt truck.
00:32:02
The SnowJobs Podcast
What are you pushing on those loaders?
00:32:05
Adam Nelson
ah We got a mix of, ah obviously, our or ties with cage. We got the one of the new wing plows, which has been good. And everything else has Ardix on it, whether it's a 14-foot HD or we got a one like big power angle one, two that we use here and there.
00:32:27
The SnowJobs Podcast
Nice.
00:32:28
RICK JAMES
So once once you, if you want to elaborate on your, and you got your, you said you use a lot of cage.
00:32:29
The SnowJobs Podcast
Okay.
00:32:35
RICK JAMES
What's, how'd you get wrapped up with them?
00:32:37
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah, we will endorse this. We'll endorse this one. This is an endorsed conversation. So go ahead.
00:32:44
The SnowJobs Podcast
How is the cage wing plow?
00:32:46
Adam Nelson
it's ah it's It's been awesome, honestly. it's a It's changed.
00:32:49
The SnowJobs Podcast
Sweet.
00:32:51
Adam Nelson
I just ordered two more of them, so if that says anything. But, yeah, it definitely efficiency. I was never a huge, huge believer in the old wing plow deal and kind of stuck my foot my mouth when we got one.
00:33:06
Adam Nelson
and like and Especially in big open parking lots and things like that, just being able to maneuver it and add 50% you know add fifty percent width to your machine and things like that. It's, it's crazy how much more efficient they are.
00:33:22
Adam Nelson
Um,
00:33:22
The SnowJobs Podcast
you know They did a limited run, right, production this year?
00:33:26
Adam Nelson
yeah. Um, I mean, they, they were hoping they could get like 10 of them out. Uh, I think they ended up with like six or seven. Um, and I think there's, there's one in Minneapolis, um, couple out in, uh,
00:33:42
RICK JAMES
Yep.
00:33:45
Adam Nelson
like Idaho or Wyoming or something out there. A couple went to Alaska and then we have one here in Fargo.
00:33:51
The SnowJobs Podcast
mice
00:33:52
Adam Nelson
So, and ours is the, ours is the, the biggest one, I guess is, uh, ours has the five foot wings.
00:33:53
RICK JAMES
What's the feedback on
00:33:59
Adam Nelson
I believe all the other ones that they built had the four foot wings on them. So most of those were either like 12 twenties or, or, uh, like 14, 22s. Um,
00:34:08
The SnowJobs Podcast
Cool.
00:34:10
Adam Nelson
Ours is a fourteen twenty four so that's got, you know, 14-foot center with five-foot wing, so 24 feet wide.
00:34:10
The SnowJobs Podcast
ah How did it do? How'd it go?
00:34:20
Adam Nelson
Honestly, it was awesome. ah Right away, we found going over a couple curbs and stuff like that with the wing at a certain angle, tweaked it a little bit, which all as we did is call Mike, the owner, and showed him what was going on and that guy's a mad scientist, man.
00:34:39
Adam Nelson
It was nuts. He, uh, he fricking had that thing redrawn, a new trip edge kind of factored into it.
00:34:49
Adam Nelson
they had the thing in paint in like three, four days. And then up here within, you know, probably seven to 10 days and they put a whole new wing on our plow for us. So, and then
00:34:57
The SnowJobs Podcast
Nice.
00:34:58
RICK JAMES
Well.
00:34:59
Adam Nelson
since then or whatever, we've just kind of made like, they take like our, you know, feedback and stuff like to heart, like, and they really kind of trust us with what we're doing and they come up here quite a bit too. Um, I know Mike's son is, is big into like the R and D stuff and he's, he's been a huge help with, uh, the wing plow itself. Um, so he's been up here a few times and running it and kind of listening to us and saying things like that. So,
00:35:27
The SnowJobs Podcast
That's great. Good.
00:35:28
Adam Nelson
They've, they've changed it a couple times.
00:35:28
RICK JAMES
Is it?
00:35:29
Adam Nelson
I think we're on like, uh, maybe like the third generation, maybe on the wing. I think we got it the way we want it changed a couple hoses here and there and couple of fittings here and there. And man, I wish we'd just get some snow and really, really get after it.
00:35:43
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah, well, that's the key.
00:35:45
Adam Nelson
But you know, for the most part, it's been, it's been awesome.
00:35:49
The SnowJobs Podcast
That's great, man. I mean, that's smart to do a limited run like that, get it out into the wild in small numbers, see what needs to be tweaked, see what needs to be put back on the drawing board and and fixed.
00:36:00
The SnowJobs Podcast
And now it sounds like you got a ah ah good version, version three.
00:36:03
Adam Nelson
Yeah, I keep telling him, I keep telling he needs to stick the thing in like a honey, I shrunk the kids machine because I want like everybody's been asking about these smaller ones and God dang it, I want a couple too.
00:36:04
RICK JAMES
the
00:36:04
The SnowJobs Podcast
ah Sweet.
00:36:14
Adam Nelson
So I've been pushing, pushing hard get the shrunk down version, but we'll see. I'm hoping they could maybe get a prototype ready for like Siamat or something like that, but we'll see.
00:36:21
RICK JAMES
it's good
00:36:26
RICK JAMES
Does it have a full trip edge?
00:36:27
The SnowJobs Podcast
You know what the... Go ahead, Jay. Sorry.
00:36:29
RICK JAMES
Sorry. Does it have full trip edge, wings and everything, right?
00:36:32
Adam Nelson
Yeah, it's, uh, they, they trip in there.
00:36:32
RICK JAMES
It's all trip edge.
00:36:35
Adam Nelson
the The one unique thing about like a cage too, is most wing plows are like hinged on like, say the heel of it, like back towards the mold board. And the way like the cage works is it's got a few different, uh, springs on the, the wings itself.
00:36:51
Adam Nelson
So they can actually tip forward or backwards. So they're kind of like hinged in the center instead. ah So they they tend to float better, like, on the outsides, which is kind of a cool thing.
00:37:04
Adam Nelson
And it's nice for, like, you can set it down at weird angles and things like that, too, and it's not, like, digging in or catching weird and things like that.
00:37:11
RICK JAMES
Okay. Do the edges, do the wings? That's the biggest problem I've heard a lot of these wing plows is that their wings just don't scrape very well.
00:37:20
Adam Nelson
I mean, for the most part this year, been – it' it's been it's been pretty good. I, uh, it's hard to tell the difference. I even took a couple of videos last, uh, was it Saturday or whatever when we went on, which is, it's hard to tell when you're scraping, you know, your concrete, concrete snow or whatever.
00:37:37
The SnowJobs Podcast
That's a good thing. not that that but
00:37:41
Adam Nelson
But like I ran, i actually, my, uh, operations manager, Tyler or whatever, he, uh, he ran that wing flow quite a bit. I only got to run it couple of times, but, uh,
00:37:53
Adam Nelson
he he was running it and I was running an Arctic next to him. And I mean, you took a video in the parking lot at the same time and you can't tell what's what. It leaves the same, like, kind of like, ah you know, like an Arctic trail.
00:38:01
RICK JAMES
Yeah.
00:38:05
Adam Nelson
you know, obviously it doesn't leave like a trail trail, but like you can sort of see like in the, in the, and even when it's slushy or whatever, you can almost just see like the glaze difference, you know, where the edge was and like where the edge is like,
00:38:06
RICK JAMES
Snail trail.
00:38:10
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah, the breadcrumbs. Yeah, the little breadcrumb line.
00:38:22
Adam Nelson
or separated or whatever, and you couldn't tell the difference between the Arctic and the cage. So that's a nice thing with that advantage, they call it.
00:38:27
The SnowJobs Podcast
Nice. Oh, that's good.
00:38:29
RICK JAMES
trail.
00:38:31
Adam Nelson
it It does scrape very, very well. It's very similar to like the Metal Plus Live Edge. It just doesn't quite have as much travel up and down.
00:38:42
RICK JAMES
Never heard of it.
00:38:44
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah. What's that?
00:38:48
The SnowJobs Podcast
ah ah
00:38:49
Adam Nelson
Yeah.
00:38:49
The SnowJobs Podcast
No, that's good, man. That's good to hear. We've heard a lot about it.
00:38:52
Adam Nelson
i can't
00:38:52
The SnowJobs Podcast
We actually saw it, right? Jay, that was out at the the the dirt day there for Sanko.
00:38:57
RICK JAMES
Yep. Yep. Was that St. Conan? Actually, oh when Smythe was in town a couple weeks ago, we went over to Adam's shop looked at it kind of hard, too. So, yeah, it was...
00:39:05
The SnowJobs Podcast
Cool.
00:39:07
Adam Nelson
I can't... I can't knock the old Metal Plus or or the Live Edge too bad because of my...
00:39:07
RICK JAMES
so
00:39:11
The SnowJobs Podcast
You can.
00:39:13
Adam Nelson
We're one of the only ones that created two that... Like the Saber version of the Live Edge for the Metal Plus, so I can't... ah I can't bash it too much because I want to sell them things as well.
00:39:26
The SnowJobs Podcast
ah Okay.
00:39:27
RICK JAMES
Yeah. Yep.
00:39:29
Adam Nelson
But we'll leave that for a different day.
00:39:30
The SnowJobs Podcast
ah Mr. Politically Correct has entered the chat.
00:39:34
Adam Nelson
It's...
00:39:34
RICK JAMES
yeah
00:39:34
The SnowJobs Podcast
No, it's good. I'm happy to hear that, man. Good for Cage, man. It's a family business. I love hearing that. it's ah It's good they got something new.
00:39:41
RICK JAMES
yeah
00:39:41
Adam Nelson
yeah
00:39:42
The SnowJobs Podcast
And, like, competition's and nothing wrong with competition. The more plows out there, the more choices. Good.
00:39:48
Adam Nelson
it's
00:39:48
The SnowJobs Podcast
That's great.
00:39:49
Adam Nelson
honestly too, that's like the one thing too. And I like, don't get me wrong. I love Arctic. We still use, we got eight, nine of them sitting outside right now or whatever. And they're, they're awesome for just putting a guy in stuff.
00:40:02
Adam Nelson
I mean, they're just fail safe. And obviously too, with the temperatures and stuff we deal with around here, you know, 20, 30 below hydraulics just suck some days. So it's always something it's a tool in your tool in your tube but toolbox.
00:40:12
The SnowJobs Podcast
I can imagine.
00:40:12
RICK JAMES
Yep. Mm-hmm.
00:40:17
Adam Nelson
Honestly, I don't even being a dealer for cage. I don't know that I would ever fully get rid of all of them. Um, they kind of, they're just there and they work.
00:40:28
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah.
00:40:30
RICK JAMES
yep
00:40:30
Adam Nelson
So
00:40:30
The SnowJobs Podcast
I hear you. Oh, good. Glad they're going. I mean, we've all, like I said, we've only ever heard really good things about the cage stuff, the snow fires and stuff. to Everybody that we've talked to has loved those.
00:40:42
The SnowJobs Podcast
We know a bunch of guys that run them.
00:40:43
RICK JAMES
Yep.
00:40:44
The SnowJobs Podcast
So good. I'm glad they're glad they've come out with a new product.
00:40:46
Adam Nelson
yeah, those have been a,
00:40:48
The SnowJobs Podcast
and
00:40:48
Adam Nelson
those Those have been awesome for us, like the snow fires. I mean, that's all we run on our skids. And, you know, they honestly, some days I even wonder why I send them out with a box on them because it's like all those guys do is just feed the feed the big plows.
00:41:02
Adam Nelson
But it they they're super universal and they're a good plow.
00:41:08
The SnowJobs Podcast
I've heard. I've heard. was Yeah, i would definitely I would definitely give one a shot. I
00:41:16
RICK JAMES
Oh yeah, yeah.
00:41:16
The SnowJobs Podcast
yeah ah was supposed to.
00:41:19
Adam Nelson
Well, ah Steve, as soon as as soon as we get over 40 inches in ah a season here, i'll I promise you, I'll send you one.
00:41:19
The SnowJobs Podcast
40 inches. Oh, my God. That's funny.
00:41:27
Adam Nelson
And if you don't like it, maybe next year.
00:41:27
The SnowJobs Podcast
forty inches oh my god
00:41:31
Adam Nelson
if we ah If we do that, I'll send you one.
00:41:31
The SnowJobs Podcast
that's funny
00:41:33
Adam Nelson
And you can if you don't like it, you can send it back.
00:41:37
The SnowJobs Podcast
Uh, I'm sure, I'm sure it'll do fine.
00:41:39
RICK JAMES
It's just so Matty Young would just buy it for me.
00:41:39
The SnowJobs Podcast
i have no doubts, no doubts, man.
00:41:41
Adam Nelson
Yeah.
00:41:42
RICK JAMES
He likes his cages.
00:41:42
The SnowJobs Podcast
We don't have to send it back. There's plenty of guys around here that run cage.
00:41:46
RICK JAMES
Yeah.
00:41:47
The SnowJobs Podcast
build That thing will be sold before it hits the ground. If you need it to be, but, uh, yeah.
00:41:51
Adam Nelson
Well, you want me to, I got, I got a couple eight footers left.
00:41:52
The SnowJobs Podcast
All right. Good to hear.
00:41:54
Adam Nelson
You can, you want me to, you want me to bring one to Sima and you can take it for next year?
00:41:55
The SnowJobs Podcast
We're done, dude. We're done.
00:42:00
The SnowJobs Podcast
ah Grand Rapids. If I wasn't going to Columbus after Grand Rapids, then I'm leaving Grand Rapids going right to Columbus. So I'm not driving. But the yeah, we'll figure something out.
00:42:11
The SnowJobs Podcast
But that's ah like I said, it's good to hear that that had a good winter. The first winter out because like it's kind of it was kind of like a prototype, you know, ah small scale.
00:42:19
Adam Nelson
For the most part. Yeah.
00:42:20
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yes.
00:42:21
Adam Nelson
I mean, it got created on two, two years of terrible snow.
00:42:21
The SnowJobs Podcast
Small scale production.
00:42:24
Adam Nelson
So just really never saw the, saw the field before it hit the market.
00:42:28
The SnowJobs Podcast
Got to tell them to send it to Storm Academy. They'll get tons of snow all winter long. It'll get a lot of feedback, lot of hours on it. ah Yeah, that's a good.
00:42:37
Adam Nelson
Working on it.
00:42:38
RICK JAMES
No, no, no comment there.
00:42:39
The SnowJobs Podcast
Oh,
00:42:39
Adam Nelson
but
00:42:42
RICK JAMES
ah You running snow tires?
00:42:42
The SnowJobs Podcast
man. So how many guys?
00:42:44
RICK JAMES
i You're on the snow tires, Adam, on all your stuff?
00:42:45
The SnowJobs Podcast
What's that?
00:42:46
Adam Nelson
Yeah. Yeah. We, uh, we have snow tires on everything. skids and our, uh, loaders, couple different brands. Um, think, uh, maybe three sets of them are like the Michelin ones, which we got on just a smoking, smoking deal.
00:43:06
Adam Nelson
Butler guys had them on, uh, some lease units that went out to American Crystal Sugar and they obviously didn't want to burn up snow tires. So they put shitty tires on and took those off and never found a home for them.
00:43:19
Adam Nelson
And they sat out in the yard for a couple of years and 2000 bucks a tire sounded pretty dang good.
00:43:20
The SnowJobs Podcast
gotcha
00:43:26
Adam Nelson
So that was what we got for those.
00:43:27
RICK JAMES
yeah know
00:43:29
Adam Nelson
But I think the other ones we have are triangles.
00:43:35
RICK JAMES
Triangles, yep.
00:43:37
The SnowJobs Podcast
What are you banging on there?
00:43:37
Adam Nelson
I believe.
00:43:39
The SnowJobs Podcast
What you clicking?
00:43:39
Adam Nelson
Triangles. Man.
00:43:41
The SnowJobs Podcast
No, what are you clicking? Oh, you're clicking the pen.
00:43:43
RICK JAMES
Oh.
00:43:44
The SnowJobs Podcast
Oh, my God.
00:43:45
Adam Nelson
Fidgeting.
00:43:45
The SnowJobs Podcast
What is going on? what is I've never heard even heard of triangles. What that? Another brand?
00:43:52
RICK JAMES
The other brown, yeah.
00:43:52
Adam Nelson
Honestly, there. Yeah.
00:43:53
The SnowJobs Podcast
Hmm.
00:43:53
RICK JAMES
they They all got the same
00:43:53
Adam Nelson
It's
00:43:54
The SnowJobs Podcast
um only heard of Alliance Nokians.
00:43:54
Adam Nelson
it's
00:43:56
RICK JAMES
They all get the same tread pattern.
00:43:57
Adam Nelson
super.
00:43:57
RICK JAMES
and
00:43:58
Adam Nelson
Yeah. It's super hard to tell the difference.
00:43:58
The SnowJobs Podcast
Interesting.
00:43:59
Adam Nelson
If you looked at the sidewall, that'd be the only way you could tell the difference on them. And honestly, performance.
00:44:04
The SnowJobs Podcast
What about price-wise?
00:44:05
RICK JAMES
Double coins are also good. so
00:44:08
Adam Nelson
Yeah, I think the triangles were actually even less. God, they were $1,700, $1,800 or something a tire.
00:44:15
RICK JAMES
Yeah.
00:44:15
The SnowJobs Podcast
Oh, so that's good. That's good to know.
00:44:17
Adam Nelson
So not terrible.
00:44:18
The SnowJobs Podcast
That's another option. Cool.
00:44:21
Adam Nelson
Yeah, they they perform well.
00:44:21
The SnowJobs Podcast
um
00:44:23
RICK JAMES
Yeah. lot of guys have them around here too.
00:44:24
Adam Nelson
And we got a couple couple different mixes on our skids.
00:44:24
The SnowJobs Podcast
That's great.
00:44:27
Adam Nelson
Obviously, with our ties to cage, we got a couple sets with like cage claws. And then those were great.
00:44:33
The SnowJobs Podcast
They've been great.
00:44:34
RICK JAMES
How many years you get out of them?
00:44:36
The SnowJobs Podcast
Two or three.
00:44:37
Adam Nelson
Uh, yeah, we're on see to season two now, but obviously with no snow, I don't know. And sometimes that hurts a guy too with no snow. I feel like you're burn it's i feel like you burn edges and tires quicker with no snow.
00:44:47
The SnowJobs Podcast
It does.
00:44:52
The SnowJobs Podcast
You do. 100%. Hmm.
00:44:55
Adam Nelson
But yeah, we got two two seasons and I'd say we got a couple left on him at least for sure. The other ones we got are BKT... uh snow tires they kind of got a it's a weird tread pattern it's it's almost honestly the same as like what's in a cage claw it's just more uh it's wider uh because it's a full-size skid tire and those those have been honestly super super good um kind of good all around too because i mean you can use them in the summer but our stuff doesn't earn normally our stuff normally doesn't move much in the summer or other than the track machines i guess
00:45:06
The SnowJobs Podcast
yeah
00:45:17
The SnowJobs Podcast
Oh, I got you. I know what you're talking about. Okay.
00:45:22
The SnowJobs Podcast
Cool.
00:45:29
The SnowJobs Podcast
I might have to give them a shot.
00:45:36
The SnowJobs Podcast
Gotcha. All right, cool. That is cool. How many guys are you running during a storm?
00:45:41
Adam Nelson
Uh, so we have a couple, uh, subs that work with us too, but, uh, like in the house, we normally send out three, four shovelers, um, two tractors and then all our equipment. So it's, you know, 12 to 15, sometimes maybe a little bit more, um, for guys in house. And then our subs, we have, uh, couple loaders.
00:46:10
Adam Nelson
four or five more skids and probably three more tractors and four or five more shovel guys. So I would say it's like 30 to 40 guys normally, depending on the snowfall or whatever that we got out at any point in time.
00:46:19
The SnowJobs Podcast
Very cool.
00:46:28
The SnowJobs Podcast
All right, very cool.
00:46:28
RICK JAMES
Mm-hmm.
00:46:29
The SnowJobs Podcast
he said You said you don't do liquids. You use treated salt or just regular salt?
00:46:34
Adam Nelson
Yeah, we're, uh, I'm a, I'm a big believer in magic salt, I guess. Um,
00:46:39
The SnowJobs Podcast
OK, nice.
00:46:40
Adam Nelson
the company that, uh, kind of Brian and I got our start with, uh, they're actually the dealer for, for, uh, magic on this side of town or this side of the state. Um, and even the other side of the state for part of it too.
00:46:53
Adam Nelson
Um, yep.
00:46:53
The SnowJobs Podcast
How's it work out? That's IBG magic.
00:46:56
Adam Nelson
I, uh, honestly, I love it.
00:46:57
The SnowJobs Podcast
How's it work in Fargo?
00:46:59
Adam Nelson
I feel like it burns down. it's maybe not quite as fast, but the residual is a lot longer.
00:47:07
The SnowJobs Podcast
Okay.
00:47:09
Adam Nelson
And then just not dealing with the corrosiveness part of it, to the grass, the up around the buildings, things like that.
00:47:13
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yep.
00:47:17
Adam Nelson
Jeremy's just giving me shit over here.
00:47:18
The SnowJobs Podcast
true, dude. It's 100% true.
00:47:19
RICK JAMES
That's not a thing. Salt is salt, dude.
00:47:21
The SnowJobs Podcast
it's It's very true, dude.
00:47:22
RICK JAMES
Salt is salt.
00:47:22
The SnowJobs Podcast
No, it's I'm telling you.
00:47:23
RICK JAMES
Oh, my salt isn't as corrosive as your salt. Salt is as corrosive as...
00:47:28
Adam Nelson
I don't know.
00:47:28
RICK JAMES
They're all corrosive.
00:47:29
Adam Nelson
And especially with the.
00:47:29
The SnowJobs Podcast
Dude, I don't know. Yeah.
00:47:31
Adam Nelson
sporadic with the sporadic, uh, snow is like this year we've had, I mean, I got our salt trucks out in the shop right now and I've had salt in that thing for shit, pushing a month and you could still go send it right now.
00:47:44
Adam Nelson
It's not bricked up.
00:47:44
The SnowJobs Podcast
Oh, yeah. It doesn't clump.
00:47:45
Adam Nelson
It's nothing.
00:47:45
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah, it doesn't it doesn't freeze, doesn't clump.
00:47:45
Adam Nelson
it It's as long as you don't go park it outside and get up some moisture to it or whatever it, uh, I mean, it even, you can tell as it's the longer it sits, uh, you know, some of the liquid will drain out of it or whatever drain off of,
00:47:48
The SnowJobs Podcast
No, it doesn't.
00:47:59
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah, it leaches down to the bottom.
00:48:01
Adam Nelson
But honestly, we've had such good luck with it. it's It's worked very well for us.
00:48:07
The SnowJobs Podcast
Absolutely. It definitely is easy on your equipment, that's for sure. I'm still using the same spreaders, man. the same pentel chains.
00:48:15
RICK JAMES
Cuz you take cuz you take care of them
00:48:16
The SnowJobs Podcast
everything Yeah, but it's still like, I mean, you see.
00:48:18
RICK JAMES
and But you can't... you cant tell so ah Salt is a salt. You can't say, this salt's less corrosive than that salt. Salt is corrosive the way it is. i mean
00:48:27
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah, but it's the inhibitors.
00:48:27
RICK JAMES
yeah You put whatever dressing you want on it.
00:48:28
The SnowJobs Podcast
It's whatever inhibitors it gets treated with.
00:48:33
RICK JAMES
By the end of the day, it's still...
00:48:33
Adam Nelson
And maybe maybe the equipment side of it is one thing. Like, I mean, I get it. Salt to salt. But the I feel like we have a lot less dead grass and stuff around, like, some of our areas than some of the other places.
00:48:44
The SnowJobs Podcast
Definitely do. Definitely.
00:48:48
Adam Nelson
But so, yeah, it's it's hard to argue, i guess.
00:48:49
The SnowJobs Podcast
100%. 100%. Yep, I agree. I agree.
00:48:55
The SnowJobs Podcast
Oh, Jeremy will find a way to argue it.
00:48:57
RICK JAMES
I'll argue.
00:48:57
Adam Nelson
Oh, I know.
00:48:59
RICK JAMES
ah
00:48:59
The SnowJobs Podcast
He will definitely find a way to argue it.
00:49:02
RICK JAMES
Why not?
00:49:03
The SnowJobs Podcast
So we already talked about your contract structures. do you Do you guys actually use a contracted weather guy, weatherman?
00:49:10
Adam Nelson
No, I normally just check Snapchat to see if Jeremy's out or not.
00:49:14
RICK JAMES
I don't know.
00:49:14
The SnowJobs Podcast
what most people do. That's it. and If they're mobilizing, oh, shit, we got something coming. Let's go.
00:49:20
Adam Nelson
No, I'm just kidding. No, uh, yeah, we just pretty much watch all the locals and take a, take a guess at, uh, which dipshit's wrong this time and which one's right, I guess.
00:49:34
The SnowJobs Podcast
Are they really that different in their forecasts out there, the local guys?
00:49:39
RICK JAMES
Local guys are, yeah.
00:49:39
Adam Nelson
Dude, I believe some of them are wild.
00:49:41
RICK JAMES
Yeah.
00:49:41
The SnowJobs Podcast
Really?
00:49:41
RICK JAMES
Then we have one channel one channel that'll say, they'll say, oh he's a one to two inch guy. He'll say, ah no, he'll go a trace to two or trace to three.
00:49:53
RICK JAMES
And the other guy will be, oh, we're going to get a trace to 11 inches. This other guy's way out of, just, I mean, it's ridiculous. It's like,
00:50:01
Adam Nelson
And then you get the
00:50:01
The SnowJobs Podcast
Covering all his bases.
00:50:03
Adam Nelson
Then you get the guy throwing the kids in there to feed feed bullshit out with the kids, and then you've got listen to the radio, and that guy gets pretty wild.
00:50:09
RICK JAMES
Oh, yeah.
00:50:13
Adam Nelson
You just kind of take ah take a guess at what's all going to happen.
00:50:13
RICK JAMES
Yeah.
00:50:17
RICK JAMES
And then they just drive around and see what the hell falls. and Then you figure it out.
00:50:20
The SnowJobs Podcast
That's fucking great.
00:50:21
RICK JAMES
So.
00:50:21
The SnowJobs Podcast
That's funny as hell.
00:50:23
Adam Nelson
It's tough for me, too, because I i live probably 40.
00:50:24
The SnowJobs Podcast
Oh.
00:50:28
Adam Nelson
10, 10 miles west of town too. So I got a little bit of a john getting and it's a, so I've checked road cameras and stuff here and there, just take a drive, I guess, or have Tyler, my guy, take around around town and see what's up. But it's wild. The difference, like just being out of town, like, I mean, even last weekend, I felt like had quite a bit more west of town than we did in town.
00:50:52
RICK JAMES
Yeah. ye
00:50:53
Adam Nelson
And even in town, I mean, the further south he got, it was way different from the north side of town. i felt like north side of town had probably an inch and a half more snow than the south side of town did.
00:51:06
RICK JAMES
Yeah.
00:51:07
The SnowJobs Podcast
Fargo weather.
00:51:07
RICK JAMES
i would
00:51:10
The SnowJobs Podcast
Fargo weather.
00:51:10
RICK JAMES
Something like that
00:51:10
The SnowJobs Podcast
Crazy. Oh, man. So, Adam, you don't have any competition in town, right? For snow?
00:51:19
RICK JAMES
that. Yeah.
00:51:20
The SnowJobs Podcast
ah
00:51:21
Adam Nelson
Not really. I just get Glacier sloppy seconds. That's about it.
00:51:23
The SnowJobs Podcast
but
00:51:27
RICK JAMES
Oh, God.
00:51:27
Adam Nelson
No, I mean, it's all, it's all like, I feel like there's, there's probably like five, six, like of us that kind of are like on good terms or whatever that are really in it, I guess.
00:51:27
The SnowJobs Podcast
ah There's no real competition. That's the
00:51:41
Adam Nelson
And we kind of all talk and look out for each other and things like that. So it's not terrible. um But yeah, was got to,
00:51:48
The SnowJobs Podcast
way it should be. Good.
00:51:50
Adam Nelson
There was, I mean, we lost, we lost like half our schools this year from, uh, kind of a new guy that entered the, entered the equation. Um, so that I guess was a little bit of a shitty thing to happen, but, uh, I mean, he, uh, I don't even know if he's in business anymore, but, uh,
00:52:11
The SnowJobs Podcast
Need snow to make money.
00:52:11
RICK JAMES
Yeah. Yeah.
00:52:13
Adam Nelson
Yeah, I mean, he was doing stuff.
00:52:14
RICK JAMES
ah
00:52:14
Adam Nelson
He he took some over our schools that we did. i mean, we did them for almost 10 years, and he was doing them for, like, maybe a half to two-thirds of what we were doing them 10 years ago.
00:52:25
The SnowJobs Podcast
Jeez. ah I'd love to say that doesn't happen everywhere, but it does.
00:52:28
RICK JAMES
yeah
00:52:28
Adam Nelson
So
00:52:31
Adam Nelson
I even i even accidentally ah even accidentally took one from Jeremy this year by just I sent in my same ah so in pricing as last year.
00:52:32
The SnowJobs Podcast
sucks when it does.
00:52:42
The SnowJobs Podcast
Accidentally air quotes.
00:52:43
Adam Nelson
No, I mean, I lost, I lost it to him last year and I figured I was going to lose it again.
00:52:44
The SnowJobs Podcast
It does suck.
00:52:48
Adam Nelson
And I, yeah, so I don't know.
00:52:52
RICK JAMES
and's That's fine.
00:52:52
The SnowJobs Podcast
ah
00:52:52
Adam Nelson
Shit happens, but it's, uh, he, he hated that one anyway, I guess.
00:52:54
RICK JAMES
You can have that one. That's nothing special. That's, uh, it wasn't, it wasn't, we wrecked a couple of plows there.
00:52:59
Adam Nelson
So
00:53:03
Adam Nelson
it does suck.
00:53:03
RICK JAMES
Yeah. but and There's a couple, there's a couple of great, there's a couple of greats there that are, they'll fuck your plow up if you hit them right with your shoe.
00:53:05
Adam Nelson
I will admit they, uh,
00:53:06
The SnowJobs Podcast
ah it does suck
00:53:12
RICK JAMES
Yeah.
00:53:13
Adam Nelson
Yeah, it, uh, fricking twists and turns and man, all these like architects these days are just dumber than a box of rocks. They can't figure nothing out. It's like you, uh, you design everything with a curve and, uh, no place to put snow.
00:53:22
The SnowJobs Podcast
All from Florida. All from Florida.
00:53:30
Adam Nelson
It's just real nice. Some days.
00:53:33
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yep.
00:53:36
The SnowJobs Podcast
Maximizing the use of the available land. That's what they call it. It's ridiculous. Absolutely ridiculous.
00:53:41
Adam Nelson
and make it look fancy as hell.
00:53:41
RICK JAMES
Yeah.
00:53:44
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yep.
00:53:44
RICK JAMES
Yeah.
00:53:45
The SnowJobs Podcast
And the only two places you can put snow, they either have a fire hydrant or some big like ah rock formation or with all sorts of plantings and stuff.
00:53:55
Adam Nelson
Yeah.
00:53:55
RICK JAMES
Pine trees and shit behind me that you just...
00:53:56
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yep. Absolutely.
00:53:58
RICK JAMES
Yeah.
00:53:58
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah, I know that architect.
00:53:58
Adam Nelson
Yeah.
00:53:59
RICK JAMES
Yep.
00:54:00
Adam Nelson
Fucking 90% of the lotto have California curbs, but the place they want you to put ah put the snow is over the fucking eight incher.
00:54:00
RICK JAMES
Yep.
00:54:08
RICK JAMES
yeah
00:54:08
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yep.
00:54:09
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yep. That's the guy. That's the guy.
00:54:12
RICK JAMES
Same guy.
00:54:12
The SnowJobs Podcast
Oh, that's it's the same guy.
00:54:14
RICK JAMES
Same guy.
00:54:15
The SnowJobs Podcast
Same circus, different clowns.
00:54:15
Adam Nelson
put the, put the biggest sidewalk or the biggest garage door or biggest walkway to get into a building on like the Southeast corner of it too. So freaking on Northwest wind just destroys them all.
00:54:30
The SnowJobs Podcast
ah
00:54:31
RICK JAMES
That place gets full.
00:54:31
The SnowJobs Podcast
They don't want to make it too easy for you.
00:54:32
Adam Nelson
But, but then you got to bring all the snow to the opposite side of the building and the opposite side of that parking lot.
00:54:34
RICK JAMES
the
00:54:39
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yep.
00:54:40
RICK JAMES
Not a bad loss, was it? wast
00:54:42
Adam Nelson
but but
00:54:42
RICK JAMES
ah
00:54:43
The SnowJobs Podcast
Oh, man.
00:54:44
RICK JAMES
Yeah.
00:54:44
The SnowJobs Podcast
ah You know what?
00:54:44
Adam Nelson
Three more years, maybe we'll give it back.
00:54:48
RICK JAMES
yeah
00:54:49
The SnowJobs Podcast
ah ah You know what? Let's hit some commercials. We'll give Adam a chance to get a drink here, and we'll be right back.
00:55:47
The SnowJobs Podcast
All right, we're back. We are back. Let's keep going with Adam. What else you got for him, Jay?
00:55:53
RICK JAMES
Oh, Adam, what, where do you, where do you see the snow industry going in your eyes? what do you, what do you think going going on the next, where would you like it to happen? I guess.
00:56:07
Adam Nelson
Um, I mean, obviously I'd like to learn how to snow again. That would be, that would be key. Um, so, uh, aside from that, I mean, ah just like every, everybody to kind of be on a level playing field, I guess. Uh, it sucks to just get beat out. Like i was saying earlier, but you know, 50, 60%, um, that's brutal.
00:56:31
Adam Nelson
that's brutal
00:56:31
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah, that's tough. That can't happen.
00:56:34
Adam Nelson
And then they just do a crappy job and then it makes us all look bad.
00:56:34
RICK JAMES
So.
00:56:36
Adam Nelson
So, I mean, that's kind of, I mean, you guys beat it like a dead horse all the time. It's just, I feel like, I mean, it's just the way it is everywhere. doesn't matter what market you're in.
00:56:46
The SnowJobs Podcast
Oh, there they exist in every market, every area. And some of them some of them you can talk to, and they'll change. And some of them are, you know, they're just bound by stupidity, and they won't listen.
00:56:58
Adam Nelson
Yeah, I feel like a lot of these, ah you know, like we were talking earlier, too, about contracts and things like that. And, you know, obviously getting people talked into these seasonals is tough, especially the way it's been the last couple of years. But, like, just getting, like, these owners and whatnot to kind of see it see it in our eyes and to kind of feel the burn, too, a little bit. Because, I mean, lot of money out there.
00:57:26
Adam Nelson
it wasn't for If it wasn't for our construction company, this snow side would be literally not happening whatsoever.
00:57:26
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah.
00:57:26
RICK JAMES
Mm-hmm.
00:57:34
Adam Nelson
so i mean it's Honestly, we've just done it so long that it's hard to get out of it.
00:57:36
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah, it's tough.
00:57:42
Adam Nelson
It kind of gets in your blood, and it's it's just a way to kind of you know put money away into something that... It's been a good investment. like up to now, but I feel like we're on like the kind of the downtrend of equipment and things like that too.
00:57:57
Adam Nelson
So it gets a little tougher here now, but the last, you know, six, seven years has been good for buying iron.
00:58:00
RICK JAMES
Mm-hmm.
00:58:06
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah, it's going up now again.
00:58:11
The SnowJobs Podcast
it's ah It's incredible, though, the the increases on equipment and stuff. It's just, ah I don't know. I don't know how we're, i don't I don't know what the future is going to bring. I mean, insurance is going up every year. Iron's going up every year. But they're not going up like your normal, you know, 1%, 2%, you know, even They're going up like eighteen percent you know Insurance is going up hundreds of percents if you can keep it or find it for snow.
00:58:38
Adam Nelson
Yeah. Yeah.
00:58:41
The SnowJobs Podcast
Something's going to have to give sooner or later. But, yeah, you're right.
00:58:44
RICK JAMES
our contracts are going but our contracts are going up like 50 every year you know right oh yeah yeah
00:58:44
The SnowJobs Podcast
These guys are just, what's that?
00:58:50
The SnowJobs Podcast
Oh, yeah. Yeah. No problem.
00:58:51
Adam Nelson
yeah
00:58:51
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah. There's there's a guy that would slit your throat for a buffalo nickel. You know, there he will literally do it.
00:58:55
RICK JAMES
yeah
00:58:57
The SnowJobs Podcast
You know, I had a conversation with the guy and he's like, well, I'm charging, you know, 100 percent profit as it is. i just have less overhead. And I said, well, that doesn't fucking matter.
00:59:08
The SnowJobs Podcast
Make more money. At least find out what the guys in your area are going to be bidding. Ballpark, the bigger guys that have more overhead. Find out what their bid is. And if you want to win the bid, then don't bid $150,000 when they're bidding $400,000.
00:59:23
The SnowJobs Podcast
Bid $360,000. Come in somewhere in the realm of possibility for them. you know That way, at least the area stays up. You bidding $150,000 $400,000 contract,
00:59:34
The SnowJobs Podcast
that's not doing your area any good long term like keep the you know find out what these guys are bidding if they lose by 10 nobody's gonna bat an eye they lose by you know 100 or more that that's a problem in your area so it sucks that you're getting beat by two-thirds that's that's tough jeremy's got to sharpen his pencil stop stop underbidding everybody by two-thirds jay all right
00:59:48
Adam Nelson
yeah
00:59:58
RICK JAMES
Yeah. I should. yeah let's just do it Just do it because you know it's fun.
01:00:05
The SnowJobs Podcast
It's fun. it's fun to do sites for nothing.
01:00:06
RICK JAMES
It's just fun to get out it's just just fun to get out there and hang out and do all that.
01:00:11
Adam Nelson
ah'd go I'd go work for Jeremy, but his broker rates don't pay well.
01:00:11
The SnowJobs Podcast
Oh, God.
01:00:15
The SnowJobs Podcast
ah ah
01:00:17
RICK JAMES
Nope.
01:00:18
The SnowJobs Podcast
Oh, my God.
01:00:19
RICK JAMES
Nope.
01:00:20
The SnowJobs Podcast
That's funny. ah What do you think, Jay? the Five and five?
01:00:25
RICK JAMES
You got it. Where do you see yourself going with the next five years, Adam, your company or personally or what?
01:00:33
Adam Nelson
um I mean, honestly, it's a kind of want to get the way our – ah the way we scaled the last few years, um, just haven't been able to get a grasp on like what we can really do just because we've kind of grown so much in the last like three years and we haven't had snow.
01:00:52
Adam Nelson
So I'd like to get, you know, a couple of years under our belt, like where we sit right now and see, see where to go from there. But obviously, uh, you know, growing is like, uh, if you're not growing, you're, uh, you're not doing it right. I guess I,
01:01:09
Adam Nelson
that's just always my mentality. I guess we just always get bigger and whether it's just being more efficient or just, you know, getting more accounts or whatever, but just being able to, uh, take more on is, is probably a goal.
01:01:15
RICK JAMES
But
01:01:26
Adam Nelson
Um, and then, uh, and then our, uh, obviously I'd like to expand on like our sales side or whatever.
01:01:28
RICK JAMES
so if you ahead, go ahead, go ahead.
01:01:36
Adam Nelson
Um, just kind of keep pushing that as far as we can get it, uh, feel like we're onto something with it. Um, so I, I have a lot of fun with it. It's kind of a passion project on us in a sense for me, but, uh, I feel like it has merit and hopefully you can expand on that too.
01:01:57
The SnowJobs Podcast
What'd you have, Jay?
01:01:58
RICK JAMES
So would you, so like you said you don't know where you're, cause we've had some low winters last two years here. You said three, but a third three years ago we had a big winner, but so ah you saying within the last two years, you probably grew quite a bit.
01:02:07
Adam Nelson
Yeah.
01:02:11
RICK JAMES
You just don't don't know where your efficiencies lies. but you guys and I mean, I know you got a ballpark, but you just want to see what you guys can get done in a night or whatever.
01:02:18
Adam Nelson
Yeah.
01:02:19
RICK JAMES
that more?
01:02:20
Adam Nelson
Yeah. We, ah like when we had our big year three years ago or whatever, that's kind of when that was our, one of our first years, we kind of took over another kind of major account in town for us, which was, I, I suppose that's probably like 30, 40, maybe 50 acres worth pavement in a sense. Um, so that was a pretty big, uh,
01:02:44
Adam Nelson
pretty big task to take on. And then we, uh, obviously did awesome that year. And then they gave us another half of their business, the other half of their business as well.
01:02:55
Adam Nelson
And they have a few other places and whatnot. There's a couple other contractors that do stuff for them. They're just not kind of in, we like to stick down a couple main corridors in town to just make our route a little more dense.
01:03:07
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah, route density.
01:03:07
Adam Nelson
Um, so, um, we just,
01:03:08
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yep.
01:03:12
Adam Nelson
we kind have all that stuff like in our territory now and it's just, we haven't gotten the years to see what we can really do. It's just always been nothing there.
01:03:22
RICK JAMES
Plus with the new iron and new plows and stuff, see what the efficiencies are and all out that, I assume.
01:03:26
Adam Nelson
Yeah. yeah
01:03:29
RICK JAMES
mean, that makes a big deal what you can get done.
01:03:32
The SnowJobs Podcast
Definitely.
01:03:32
Adam Nelson
For sure. And there's a few other kind of places or whatever that it, that are kind of close to the shop and whatnot up here that, you know, big industrial sites and stuff that are, have been built in the last couple of years or getting built or whatever, you know, some of that stuff would be nice to get at, but it all takes time.
01:03:48
RICK JAMES
which ones are they? I'll write it down.
01:03:53
The SnowJobs Podcast
a
01:03:57
RICK JAMES
yeah
01:04:00
The SnowJobs Podcast
ah
01:04:04
The SnowJobs Podcast
Oh, man.
01:04:05
Adam Nelson
give you the zip code.
01:04:08
The SnowJobs Podcast
ah
01:04:09
RICK JAMES
Got it.
01:04:09
The SnowJobs Podcast
ah So what would you say the most important or best decision you've made in the last five years to get you to this point has been?
01:04:19
Adam Nelson
Um, I would say just, uh, the bigger and better equipment in a sense. I think that's kind of been big for us. I, it helps, it helps with the getting employees around.
01:04:35
Adam Nelson
Um, you know, that's always one of the hardest part is just getting guys come around things. So just having nice stuff, uh, keeping up on it. Um, you know Trying to have the latest and greatest and easiest to operate or whatever is is definitely key.
01:04:52
The SnowJobs Podcast
Gotcha.
Innovations and Networking in Snow Industry
01:04:53
Adam Nelson
And then, yeah, i guess just don't bank on it. Make sure you got a backup plan or money in the bank, one of the two, because it's tough out there.
01:05:02
The SnowJobs Podcast
Amen. Amen.
01:05:10
The SnowJobs Podcast
It definitely can be. Absolutely. ah What do you think, Jake?
01:05:13
RICK JAMES
but see you' you've made so you've You've made some good inroads too, like with your, you know, with the guys you're kind of dealing with now you know, cage and your edges and all that.
01:05:23
RICK JAMES
So, so that's
01:05:24
Adam Nelson
ye Yeah, I mean, that's been big. Just the right guys. and I mean, it it took a while to get to that point or whatever, so that's kind of been good. but so
01:05:33
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah, the Sabres have been good. I got to say the Sabres on the Arctic have been good.
01:05:38
Adam Nelson
Well, I got old Jimbo talked into a set of for your V-plow, too, so don't.
01:05:44
The SnowJobs Podcast
Nice. I'll try them. I will try them. i' like I can put them side by side with the winters. See what does what does what. I'm doing that with the Artics next year, too. That's ah the Sabres. I got to say, though, the Sabres, I was talking to my operator just actually the other day.
01:06:00
The SnowJobs Podcast
said, what did you think of the ah the setup? Because he doesn't know the names. He just knows we put new edges on. I said, what do you think of the set edges we put on? He goes, no, they did really good. They were scraping real clean. and He was watching the wear. He says, no, they haven't really worn hardly at all. so And he's probably got 10, 12 pushes on them. so And that was like...
01:06:19
The SnowJobs Podcast
towards the end of the season too. So he was, he was very happy with them and they, yeah, they were good. Can't, can't say anything bad about them. They were really good.
01:06:28
Adam Nelson
It's wild. They, uh, it's crazy. Cause yeah, we run them obviously in our cages and our artics and stuff. And i mean, I got artics out there that are two and a half years old that hardly show anywhere, which obviously we haven't had 50 inch in all years, but like we were saying, you're running dry pavement and stuff like that.
01:06:46
RICK JAMES
You're pushing pavement.
01:06:49
Adam Nelson
It does put a hurt on some of those things. And I mean, it's, it's literally the same edge.
01:06:53
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah.
01:06:53
RICK JAMES
Oh, yeah.
01:06:55
Adam Nelson
I saw the, you know, the DOT or the county or whatever too, and they're getting over 7,000 plow miles out of on a big truck on an interstate at high speed.
01:07:05
Adam Nelson
So they last...
01:07:06
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah, this was this was a tough winter for us to tell because this winter was not like our normal winters where we're pushing unfrozen pavement. And, ah you know, you got 40-degree pavement underneath the snow.
01:07:18
The SnowJobs Podcast
ah This year we actually had frozen pavement the whole year, so we we couldn't tell, ah you know, on a normal winter how much wear we'd get, but they they held up really good with what we had.
Plowing Challenges and Anecdotes
01:07:29
The SnowJobs Podcast
So couldn't not complain.
01:07:29
Adam Nelson
You guys got it easy out there, man, with that pavement like that.
01:07:33
The SnowJobs Podcast
Well, we didn't have it this year.
01:07:33
Adam Nelson
God, that shit's like...
01:07:35
The SnowJobs Podcast
This year we had a lot of ah a lot of frozen pavement. People saying, hey, why why is our pavement cracking like this? Well, because you had had little cracks and you didn't fill them.
01:07:47
The SnowJobs Podcast
And now you have frozen pavement all year long. And then you have the freeze-thaw cycle during the day. And that's it. The cracks get a lot bigger. and they were one One property had a trench dug by an ah cut by an electrical company.
01:08:01
The SnowJobs Podcast
And they're like, that we something's got to be done about this. Well, they didn't pay they didn't put blacktop in the the crack. They filled it with millings. That's it. these These things scrape clean for a reason. They go down into into the trench and they get it out. So it's like six inches. It's like a giant freaking speed bump hole.
01:08:20
The SnowJobs Podcast
just they They're like, no, you got to do something about this one.
01:08:20
Adam Nelson
Oh, yeah.
01:08:23
The SnowJobs Podcast
That's not on us. but That's you guys. Talk to your electrician.
01:08:26
RICK JAMES
Oh, whatever.
01:08:27
Adam Nelson
It's just like that snow.
01:08:27
RICK JAMES
Everything's on us, Steve. Whatever.
01:08:29
The SnowJobs Podcast
No.
01:08:30
Adam Nelson
Just like that snow last weekend.
01:08:30
The SnowJobs Podcast
No, sir.
01:08:32
Adam Nelson
That was, I mean, I feel like that's probably what it was like out there. I guess Jamie or Jeremy would know more about that just cause he's been out there pushing snow, but it's, uh, that stuff is like fucking Velcro, man.
01:08:44
Adam Nelson
It's just like sticks in your box and doesn't fly all over the place.
01:08:48
The SnowJobs Podcast
Oh, a hundred percent.
01:08:48
Adam Nelson
The wind doesn't blow it.
01:08:49
RICK JAMES
Yeah.
01:08:49
Adam Nelson
It's like, it's like farm simulator, man.
01:08:53
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah. It goes where you put it.
01:08:54
Adam Nelson
It's fricking awesome.
01:08:54
RICK JAMES
Yeah.
01:08:55
The SnowJobs Podcast
It stays.
01:08:56
Adam Nelson
I could deal with that every day the week.
01:08:59
RICK JAMES
Yeah.
01:09:00
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yup.
01:09:00
RICK JAMES
mean, lots of in a hurry. Can you not chase some tailings? Yeah.
01:09:02
Adam Nelson
Oh, yeah.
01:09:03
The SnowJobs Podcast
Oh no. A hundred percent. A hundred percent. It's a, it,
01:09:06
Adam Nelson
Doesn't drift.
01:09:07
The SnowJobs Podcast
No, definitely.
01:09:08
RICK JAMES
Yep.
01:09:08
The SnowJobs Podcast
it's It's a totally different ball game that you guys have to deal with out there. it's i would I would not want to do it. I like where we're at. I'll push the heavy stuff all day. It stays where you put it. You don't have to worry about it blowing back.
01:09:21
Adam Nelson
Christ, I went across a whole lot last week and freaking went right to the pile and backed up from it. And i guess I put it on my Snapchat or whatever. It was like a goddamn snowman. It was the perfect mold of the box just sitting there in the parking lot.
01:09:35
The SnowJobs Podcast
That's great.
01:09:35
RICK JAMES
Mm-hmm.
01:09:37
The SnowJobs Podcast
It's a good day. it's a good day that's That's a very good day. ah
01:09:41
RICK JAMES
Oh, yeah.
01:09:42
The SnowJobs Podcast
ah Jay, what else you got for him?
01:09:44
RICK JAMES
I don't think I got much else for Adam.
01:09:47
The SnowJobs Podcast
Got any funny stories? any You greased any of Glacier's door handles or anything? Any any pranks on Glacier?
01:09:54
Adam Nelson
Haven't done that yet.
01:09:55
The SnowJobs Podcast
No? I gotta get a prank war going in Fargo.
01:09:56
Adam Nelson
I was, uh, I'm always waiting for, it waiting for Jeremy to go live and then we'll come cruising across and dump a huge load of snow in one of his parking lots when he's over there or something.
01:09:58
RICK JAMES
You should.
01:10:05
The SnowJobs Podcast
ah
01:10:06
RICK JAMES
yeah
01:10:06
Adam Nelson
But yeah.
01:10:07
The SnowJobs Podcast
That would be, I would pay to get that on camera. That'd be great.
01:10:10
RICK JAMES
ah there is almost ah There was a throwdown last weekend with ah at ah another contractor got in the face of one of my operators and ah we were cleaning the road and he kept pushing his shit on the road and my guy's like, what are you fucking doing? And he's...
01:10:27
RICK JAMES
And the guy, like, Tom was ready to kick. he He thought the guy was coming up his ladder, and Tom was ready to donkey kick him out of the ladder. We're all listening on the phone, and all the guys are, like, wanting get over there, and just they're all just wanting like, let's go.
01:10:37
Adam Nelson
Oh,
01:10:40
RICK JAMES
don't think that guy wants to mess, because you're going to mess with one, and you're going mess with everybody there, and it's going to be exciting.
01:10:40
The SnowJobs Podcast
Oh, man.
01:10:45
Adam Nelson
yeah.
01:10:46
RICK JAMES
I wasn't a loader, otherwise I would have been there to see how I was on the other end of town, but.
01:10:50
The SnowJobs Podcast
You're in a loader?
01:10:50
RICK JAMES
That was pretty cool. yeah last's Yeah, we're short guys. That was actually a fun push.
01:10:54
The SnowJobs Podcast
You weren't in your...
01:10:55
RICK JAMES
I actually got to run the Volvo.
01:10:58
The SnowJobs Podcast
You weren't in your little Colorado or whatever truck you got there? No.
01:11:01
RICK JAMES
ah For that Ranger?
01:11:02
Adam Nelson
ah
01:11:03
The SnowJobs Podcast
ah but The Ranger.
01:11:03
RICK JAMES
for
01:11:04
The SnowJobs Podcast
The Ranger. ah Look for the Glacier Ford Ranger and then put a pile of snow right behind him.
01:11:08
RICK JAMES
it.
01:11:09
Adam Nelson
It's got bright ass fucking lights.
01:11:09
RICK JAMES
Oh, yeah.
01:11:11
Adam Nelson
That's for sure.
01:11:12
The SnowJobs Podcast
Oh, he likes his lights.
01:11:12
RICK JAMES
Yep.
01:11:13
The SnowJobs Podcast
He definitely likes his lights.
01:11:13
RICK JAMES
oh yeah
01:11:15
Adam Nelson
Roll down your window and you about fucking go in the ditch.
01:11:15
RICK JAMES
yeah
01:11:18
RICK JAMES
Safety first.
01:11:18
The SnowJobs Podcast
Oh, man. That's great.
01:11:21
Adam Nelson
Um, funny plowing stories.
01:11:22
The SnowJobs Podcast
Oh, what else you got? to Yeah. Funny plowing. but Anything?
01:11:24
RICK JAMES
Yeah, sorry. I interrupted you there.
01:11:26
The SnowJobs Podcast
All good.
01:11:26
Adam Nelson
Um, I guess I probably got one. ah
01:11:30
The SnowJobs Podcast
All right.
01:11:32
Adam Nelson
It was back. We, it was, uh, my partner, Brian and I, we, when we worked for the other company, uh, we did a couple apartments over here and there was this one car that always parked on the corner, uh, like closest to walk into his apartment.
01:11:48
Adam Nelson
And, uh, we were getting sick of it.
01:11:49
RICK JAMES
Thank you.
01:11:51
Adam Nelson
Telling the landlord person, you know, what the hell's going on? Just never car, never got moved like week after week. So finally we had a big ass blizzard one day and we're like, you know what? Fuck this guy.
01:12:02
The SnowJobs Podcast
Was it a black Nissan X-Terra?
01:12:05
Adam Nelson
no it was a car
01:12:05
The SnowJobs Podcast
Because we have that car. We have that car one of our complexes. but ah
01:12:10
Adam Nelson
it was a car and uh it uh so we we did the old uh brian was in a skid and i was in a truck and i pushed it down the one runway and he took the stuff because it was right on the corner it was just pain in the ass to get around so he took the
01:12:10
The SnowJobs Podcast
Sorry.
01:12:26
Adam Nelson
skid in a bucket and kind of put a pile in the front and pile in the back and he even got wild like i pushed it up kind of by the door on the side and he like swung his his skid steer like pivoted it so it like pushed it up and like literally got the snow like underneath this car so we're like yeah that'll fix the fucker and uh so we finished the place up and the next day the what are our bosses at the time, which is actually Brian's, it's his brother-in-law.
01:12:58
Adam Nelson
So it was family to him and he calls and he's like, hey, did you guys fucking bury a car at DeMio's? And like, yeah, that asshole's been there for like three weeks, man.
01:13:08
Adam Nelson
Every single time we go push, he's always in the way. Well, grab a shovel because that asshole is a handicapped guy that got a fucking no handicaps spot on on the place. So they made him his own.
01:13:23
RICK JAMES
ah
01:13:23
The SnowJobs Podcast
ah ah That, ladies and gentlemen, is one of your all-time backfires.
01:13:26
Adam Nelson
fucking and didn't tell us yes so the freaking guy in like a walker or some shit that couldn't uh couldn't get from the parking spot to us so we had to go shovel that damn thing out and when i tell you we there was fucking snow under that car like a long way under that car it was a pain in the ass
01:13:29
RICK JAMES
Yeah, karma.
01:13:30
The SnowJobs Podcast
but no
01:13:35
The SnowJobs Podcast
Grab your shovel.
01:13:46
The SnowJobs Podcast
ah
01:13:48
Adam Nelson
but
01:13:48
The SnowJobs Podcast
Oh, that's great.
01:13:50
Adam Nelson
I don't know.
01:13:50
The SnowJobs Podcast
the
01:13:50
Adam Nelson
There's honestly, there's so many of them stories.
01:13:51
RICK JAMES
You never know.
01:13:53
Adam Nelson
Like I feel like there's so many of them in the moment that are just hilarious and you just never remember them.
01:13:54
The SnowJobs Podcast
Oh, yeah.
01:14:00
The SnowJobs Podcast
Oh, that's definitely one of the all-time backfires.
01:14:00
Adam Nelson
But that was the, that was one of the ones that stuck.
01:14:05
The SnowJobs Podcast
That's great. Well, that's because you had a lot of labor shoveling it out. That's why you remember it.
01:14:09
Adam Nelson
Yeah. Yeah.
Event Participation and Conclusion
01:14:12
Adam Nelson
Fuck. I think we were probably like 16, 18 years old, somewhere in there.
01:14:12
The SnowJobs Podcast
Hard lessons are hard forgotten. Oh, man.
01:14:18
Adam Nelson
it's funny.
01:14:20
The SnowJobs Podcast
That is great. What else you got for him, Jay? Anything?
01:14:24
RICK JAMES
No. Nope, just probably have to go add some fuel to our loaders.
01:14:28
Adam Nelson
See you Wednesday. I
01:14:31
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah, right.
01:14:31
RICK JAMES
Yeah.
01:14:32
The SnowJobs Podcast
You got anything for us, Adam?
01:14:34
Adam Nelson
i don't think so.
01:14:36
The SnowJobs Podcast
Okay.
01:14:38
RICK JAMES
Are you going on the circuit this summer? Are you going any shows or anything, Adam?
01:14:42
Adam Nelson
ah I'll probably go to Saima. ah Probably hang out a day or so with the Cage Boys and then probably sit in with Matt and Jim at the Sabre booth.
01:14:55
Adam Nelson
So that'll be fun and it'll be cool too with
01:14:56
RICK JAMES
Cool.
01:14:57
The SnowJobs Podcast
See you in Grand Rapids.
01:14:59
Adam Nelson
so yeah where you stand that's what i was wondering too i started kind of looking i guess to see where uh what uh
01:15:02
The SnowJobs Podcast
I don't even know. We've got hotel rooms booked. We couldn't find a B&B that would fit more than like five or six people within 40 minutes of Grand Rapids. So it was slim pickings. So I think we got think we're going to be hotel rooms on this one. I just don't remember where we booked.
01:15:23
The SnowJobs Podcast
There's a lot of them like that sleeps four sleeps five, maybe that are in Grand Rapids or around Grand Rapids within a decent driving distance. There just weren't, you know, sleeps 12 or sleeps 11, you know, so.
01:15:36
Adam Nelson
Yeah.
01:15:39
Adam Nelson
We'll probably be downtown anyway at some bar. Watching. You getting Andy coming?
01:15:45
The SnowJobs Podcast
Oh, yeah, he'll come.
01:15:46
Adam Nelson
Watching Andy dance everywhere?
01:15:46
RICK JAMES
Oh, yeah.
01:15:48
The SnowJobs Podcast
He'll come and he draws a crowd.
01:15:48
RICK JAMES
Yeah. Hopefully it comes.
01:15:51
The SnowJobs Podcast
He draws a crowd.
01:15:51
RICK JAMES
Hopefully it comes.
01:15:53
The SnowJobs Podcast
but
01:15:54
RICK JAMES
Yeah.
01:15:54
Adam Nelson
um maybe...
01:15:54
The SnowJobs Podcast
He sold a lot of t-shirts for us last, uh, and equip.
01:15:58
RICK JAMES
Yeah.
01:15:59
The SnowJobs Podcast
ah Oh man.
01:16:02
Adam Nelson
I'll probably drive. i guess I'll see. I don't know what I'm going to do. So maybe I'll pick up a couple stragglers along the way.
01:16:08
The SnowJobs Podcast
There you go. There you go. All right. Well, we'll see. And we'll see at Grand Rapids. Then see it's time. Oh, what else? Jay, anything else before we go?
01:16:19
RICK JAMES
Thanks, Adam.
01:16:21
The SnowJobs Podcast
All right. And I think we're think we're good to go.
01:16:22
Adam Nelson
Should be good.
01:16:25
The SnowJobs Podcast
So thanks, Adam, for joining us. We appreciate it, brother.
01:16:26
Adam Nelson
Yeah. I appreciate the time, man.
01:16:29
The SnowJobs Podcast
All right, guys.
01:16:29
RICK JAMES
thanks
01:16:30
The SnowJobs Podcast
Well, that's going to do it for episode 113 of the Snow Jaws podcast main show. As we said, thanks again for Adam giving us the time, coming back on on a Sunday night here.
01:16:42
The SnowJobs Podcast
ah That was great. ah Get this done under the wire, get it out to you in the morning. But that's going to do it, guys. All right. if you If you are getting that snow in the Midwest that Fargo is getting on Wednesday, keep us posted.
01:16:54
RICK JAMES
Woo! whoo
01:16:55
The SnowJobs Podcast
All right. But otherwise, that is it, guys. Everybody be safe out there. Have a great week. Keep pushing.