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E9: Round Here (Live Alt Deep Dive)
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Round Here is one of the Crows' most famous "Live Alt" Songs. That is, they have played the song with numerous different arrangements and with various additional lyrics.
In this Episode, Chris presents and reviews (in chronological order) his favorite 12 live and extended versions of Round Here, detailing the evolution from 1994 to 2013.
You can follow along on Youtube, where we made a playlist of all 12 (plus another bonus nine videos for the true Round Here fan).
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL90BAueZIRXiIVjw-3Ge1FPRUM80Ul_QE
All this, and we give a brief shout out to Adam's Hard-Candy-Era "Mohawk Dreads".
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Transcript
Introduction & Excitement for Counting Crows
00:00:16
Speaker
Welcome to episode nine of Sullivan street. I am Eric Vogelsang. I'm here with my co-host Chris Miggs. Chris, happy Friday to you. Happy Friday. It's good to be here. It's going to be, it's going to be talking to you about counting crows and not doing anything else in the world. Yeah. On a weekday, we usually record in a weekend now we're like, well, we'd rather talk crows then, then do our work or family obligations or whatever.
Banshee Tour Recap & Recording Delays
00:00:40
Speaker
I would, uh, any, any, I guess there's, I guess, um,
00:00:44
Speaker
You mentioned brief news. I guess the big news is that the tour just ended, the Banshee tour. Yeah, I should note so that when we last recorded, we were talking about your experience, the Banshee tour. I mentioned that I hadn't really had a chance to hear a proper version of the one yet because nugs hadn't put one up. Right. And then literally the next day, right after you had put this up,
00:01:07
Speaker
nugs put one up so me i don't know if anyone's listening maybe that's maybe that's why or or just random coincidence there but i i've been listening to it a bunch on the last shows and i just will just say i think it's such a great addition i bet he just my guess is they just drop it never do it again after the store but i'm with you i think it's like one of those goes into that classic group of like
00:01:28
Speaker
long december openers yes i kind of love how he always plays there's a certain way he plays songs as the long december opener that kind of makes them all like the original version of the one and the oasis song live forever are not the same song but the kind of sound of a piece when adam is sitting at a piano about to play long december there's like a tone he takes on
00:01:50
Speaker
It's really interesting that you can kind of hear or look at Miss Ohio, the Gillian Welch song, all wonderful.
Personal Connections to Lyrics
00:01:59
Speaker
I actually had an interesting experience listening to the one because sometimes you listen to a song and you think, do I relate to these lyrics? Then it kind of hit me, I was like, I'm not sure I relate to any of them, but I wonder if other people from my past would relate to them about me.
00:02:17
Speaker
You know, right, right, right. So yeah, I can't. Yeah, I don't do that as much, but that's a good point. I might start. Yeah. Now I can make more things about me, right? So if I don't relate to them, I'll think, well, it has to do about me somehow. Maybe other people aren't thinking that about me. I don't think that about anyone, but it could be, it could be possible. The only other bit of, so we'll see what happens as the crows take their break. I assume that we're not going to hear any news until the new year at the earliest about anything, which is fine by me and well-deserved arrest. So they can be with their family and just, uh,
00:02:47
Speaker
unwind after months of travel. I don't have any other news. I did kind of want to give a shout out. I know when we kind of publicize our podcast, I've been mostly posting things on Reddit. You have been mostly posting things on the Facebook groups, which are... Can you mention the Facebook groups real quick? Mary Murder and Goodnight Elizabeth Accounting Crows Collective. That's a long time ago. Right. And I know there's a couple others, but I think those are the most active right now.
00:03:16
Speaker
on Facebook and then there's kind of crew subreddit.
Counting Crows Subreddit & Song Matchups
00:03:19
Speaker
I'll give a shout out to on the subreddit. I think it's QE Nicks and Counting Trains because I think they are the two and I'm sorry if there are others doing it that they're still doing this like basically March Madness
00:03:34
Speaker
Match up if you haven't joined it is a lot of fun I think there's still 30 songs left, but they basically started with all of the main songs maybe a hundred and thirty or something I don't know 104 sorry they had 104 songs and basically they do one-on-one matchups to see what are the most popular songs and you know not surprisingly a lot of August tunes win and and and recovering tunes but there's been some interesting ones like I think I mentioned last time like
00:04:02
Speaker
she don't want nobody near or whatever. I always thought that was an underrated song and it is popular with the fans as well.
00:04:10
Speaker
Yeah, we kind of had upset. Well, it was the one that we were kind of joking. Anyway, Sullivan Street lost. Sullivan Street lost, which I was OK. I voted for. Oh, is that high life law? High life lost when I dream of Michelangelo. I thought that's interesting. But I Sullivan Street, I mean, Sullivan Street, Los Angeles, The Silences was also a great song. And I think that's a hard one. But, you know, speaking as someone who named a podcast after the song.
In-Depth Analysis of 'Round Here'
00:04:32
Speaker
Yes, I totally, I totally get it. I'll raise
00:04:36
Speaker
you know a little bit of hell on that but yes yes i get it so yeah so so anyway for those that joined the reddit and kind of want some fun it's a nice interactive thing to do with other crows fans so you started about you know we're not talking about banshee anymore but we will be talking about live music today and talk about a deep dive this is definitely going to be the deepest dive we've done
00:05:00
Speaker
because we're gonna focus on just one song for the podcast, which is their opening song of August, Round Here. And Chris, you can talk about it a bit, but you helped me come up with the, or you came up with the idea, which was very interesting. And basically you, right, you made a point and you can do it now about how Round Here Live has evolved over time. And we will kind of analyze and maybe highlight certain
00:05:31
Speaker
shows that the fans might want to listen to. Yeah, I curated a playlist. I used YouTube. It makes it easy. That's obviously not going to cover every last version, but I think we got a pretty good selection of them because around here is a song that starting very early on in the band's live tenure, Adam was improvising in the middle of changing, doing all sorts of different things to it. And so you can, I mean, you could spend
00:05:59
Speaker
days listening to different versions around here and not here too that are exactly the same. Many of them will share similar alterations in the middle and different things. But, and this became, I feel like when I became an online Counting Crows fan in the early aughts, this was part of the sort of the allure, right? That people, especially when
00:06:21
Speaker
It was hard to collect an entire show because downloading an MP3 took an hour. A lot of times what people would share was the big alts, the interesting ones. Yeah, you don't need every last version of Mr. Jones, but Adam sang a different little piece of something and round here last night, you should hear it. And so there was a great website called Anna Begins, which you can still find if you dig into the archive.org, the Wayback Machine that had
00:06:51
Speaker
lyrics to different alts, which was really interesting. And that was part of, I think, the allure of the band. And we'll talk, there's other songs where this is true, Murder of One, Rain King, Good Night Elizabeth. But I think Round Here is the most sort of consistent, and I would, again, I think the most famous of the sort of songs. Because again, it's one of their most popular songs, and they've taken the song and stretched it. Sometimes, I think the longest version on what we listen to is like 14 minutes.
00:07:18
Speaker
But it's a five and a half minute song to start, right? So that's a pretty significant difference. Yeah, I think it's a dividing line for a lot of fans because we're casual and hardcore fans, right? Because you take someone to a show and if at minute seven around here, they're like, are they still playing? What are they doing here? Well, when I'm going to be a hardcore fan and I'm both because
00:07:43
Speaker
Well, I consider myself definitely hardcore fan, but I'm both because, uh, well, if you remember from our August ranking, I actually had around here, the lowest, I think I had like number nine or something. So then I, but I like around here and of course, but it was one of those songs they played all the time. And I was like,
00:07:57
Speaker
Oh no, we don't need another 15 minutes. Cause then in my mind, they're taking away from two other deep cuts that I wanted to hear, but you having like listening to them and I've actually started to really appreciate round here over the last, I want to say like 24 months. And so I actually thought it was fun. Although I joke, I was joking Chris off the air that some of these I had seen before or heard before, of course,
00:08:21
Speaker
But I did want to take some notes so I could at least keep somewhat pace with our live music and bootleg expert, Chris Miggs. But I was like, jeez, Chris, you're giving me a lot of homework. 14 minutes a song times 12 songs. I'm very busy. I don't have time for this. So I kept it to only 12. Otherwise, it was like, you know, we could go for days here. The one thing I'll point out, by the way, just speaking of things in the air,
00:08:46
Speaker
So I'm a big fan of the songwriter, Noah Gunderson, who's terrific. If anyone hasn't listened to him, go check him out. And actually going to see him play tomorrow as you record this.
00:08:56
Speaker
And earlier this week, he started his tour. So I'm going like, whatever, the third or the fourth show of the tour. And someone posted, hey, here's the set list from the first night with a pretty interesting cover.
Influence of 'Round Here' & Covers
00:09:05
Speaker
And wouldn't you know it, on this meetup, he's, please play in round here. So, I'm going to go, I'll actually let you know how this goes. Cause I have a VIP ticket for that. I'm going to wear a counting crow shirt and see. Oh, that's cool. Chat up around here. Cause apparently he's a big fan too. So it's just in the air as I was round here is just,
00:09:23
Speaker
Here for us. That's cool. Now, all of these videos are available on YouTube. I don't know. Are we going to release our own list to have people? We can send out so and the playlist that we'll that we can make public and people can find. Has more than that, because I said, oh, yes, there's duplicates of some of these alts. And I didn't want to, again, weigh everyone down and want to keep this to, you know, a mere hour podcast.
00:09:51
Speaker
So, but if you want to deep dive, there's more versions and you can keep going and keep listening and find, you know, all the way, your way into this and find what you like about different things. And no, that's great. So I will release, uh, yeah, when we put up the, the, uh, so for those that didn't see, when you look at the podcast description, we'll link to the round here playlist from the Sullivan street podcast.
00:10:14
Speaker
And the first 12 of the 21 videos on here are the ones that we're gonna discuss so you can listen along, right? Listen to one and then listen to our commentary on it, et cetera. And they are going from, and very nice of Chris. He put it in chronological order, at least the first 12. Yeah, the first 12 are in chronological order, I think. Starting in 94 and the last one was in 2013.
00:10:38
Speaker
So let's kick it off then, the first one you had, and I'll just put, and I have comments, but I'll have you lead these, but I might, before I introduce them, put your little five word description, which was the live on Letterman, and quote unquote, essentially the original of the alternate lyrics. Yeah, so the first version is them, the band on David Letterman, and this is them playing
00:11:03
Speaker
Essentially the album version of the song, right? This is not, there's no really different
Notable 'Round Here' Performances
00:11:08
Speaker
lyrics here. This is just them playing it live. And similar to obviously the most famous version is that version on Saturday Night Live. That is heart.
00:11:19
Speaker
SNL is very finicky about YouTube uploads. So you're not going to find it there. But if you haven't heard that version or you, again, if you just want to have this for the list, this plays that same role. And it's good, right? Even just from the beginning, they sound great playing the song. I also love that Letterman makes the endorsement. If you don't, if you don't have this record already, what are you doing? Yes. And that's part of the thing about the love of this band had from early on.
00:11:47
Speaker
And we did find out later, right, that Letterman, really, you know, the Crows was one of his, I'm putting a number, but top five favorite, that he actually listened to him a lot at home that wasn't fake.
00:12:00
Speaker
and actually liked him. And I think there's even some story, right, that he actually went to Adam before one of the shows and said hi. And it was like a one minute high. But then one of the producers went up to Adam and said, if he even talks to you for one minute, like he loves you because he because I let him in famously, like a lot of these talk show people like socially awkward and kind of an introvert and actually doesn't like talking to anybody about anything. And you can see when he retired, he's hiding as a hermit in his house, basically.
00:12:26
Speaker
So that wasn't us. Yeah, he's kind of the anti Jimmy Fallon who you can see is very great gregarious, but yeah any other comments I I have this on a lot of them, but I at least in my opinion what's really cool about a lot of these versions and it's different for each one, but they
00:12:43
Speaker
they add a lot fuller sound and I have some more, I kind of joke extra sound effects, right? But it's not too much where it's so noisy or cacophony or whatever, but like Charlie in particular, and then I think Dan and when Emmy was there, Emmy as well, add a little bit extra touches that just make it great.
00:13:06
Speaker
Yeah, we'll talk about Emmy later, but yeah, he adds, Emmy adds pedal steel, which I think he has really nice addition to the sound of the song. That's sort of ethereal kind of thing happening. And I think that's a lot that pedal steel helps for that.
00:13:21
Speaker
these early shows and I guess up until I want to say one of the, up until let's say 2005, which to me is more recent, but of course that was still 20 years ago. What I love too, besides just looking that everybody looks younger, I love that like Dave in particular, but also Dan are so much more animated partly because they were younger and partly I think that was like something all guitarists did at the time.
00:13:45
Speaker
they had to like jump a little more. Like there's a couple parts where Dave jumped, Dave would, Bryson would never jump now, right? He's like that kind of chill guy on the side. So anyway, that always cracks me up. I have a couple comments later about like, I always like kind of decide, not decide, the other band members showing their personality a bit more. Yeah. So that, that always, yeah, cracks me up. Just as an aside though, and we'll talk about Charlie,
00:14:10
Speaker
later. But did you notice on this tour that the you know how he kind of starts off that song live around here? I've noticed that on the more recent tour that that little keyboard bit is longer.
00:14:25
Speaker
Hmm. And, you know, maybe it was making these numbers up, but if it was 15 seconds, now it's 30 or something like that. Right. And I just laugh because, of course, I know within one second what they're going to play, but nobody knows. And they're like, what? Yeah, because this one, yeah, they added more almost like I want to say, oh, yeah, because somebody said it next to me, but I was thinking it almost Pink Floyd esque.
00:14:46
Speaker
a little bit in the beginning around here, particularly the Banshee tour, just at least my interpretation. And someone even said that. And of course, I knew it was leading around here, but the average person would think, what is this kind of, you know, sounds like the material going. Yeah.
00:15:00
Speaker
So anyway, okay, great. Thanks for the Letterman 1. So then we go to number two, MTV Unplugged. No, Most Wanted. Sorry, sorry, sorry. Oh yeah, Most Wanted. Sorry, sorry, sorry. It's a UK show. Yes. It's not one of our shows. It's a UK MTV. Yeah, sorry. I wrote that down wrong because I was thinking of the Unplugged. Yeah, so that's also in 1994, but that's the only one I think you have on here that's strictly acoustic, if I'm correct.
00:15:23
Speaker
Yeah, that's part of the idea there was that's a good example. I think, you know, they always say that the band really started as Bryson and Adam in a coffee house. Right. Yes. And I think this is kind of the closest they get, or at least again, easy to find on YouTube to that sort of coffee house version of round here where they're playing acoustic. It does end up becoming the full band. There's a small alt at the beginning. Adam sings, go to sleep, little angel, go to sleep, little one.
00:15:53
Speaker
But yeah, I think here again, just trying to show as we're trying to as we get into it. I feel like this really highlights how much his performance gets it across when it's more sparse and more acoustic. You're really getting that big hit of like what Adam is doing to make that song. You know, yes, I kind of I didn't. Yes. And you're going to help me to verbalize it better. But yes, exactly. So there are some right. Some parts of this, I thought the the the
00:16:22
Speaker
The band is better than some of these videos, right? You have 12. I think the band makes it fuller or more interesting. There are some that the lyrics make it more interesting. There are some that his animation and his passion about the song made it more interesting.
00:16:37
Speaker
In this case, though, I think you're absolutely correct. Him sitting there by himself, oh, sorry, of course, sitting there kind of quiet, not jumping around and just singing. The only thing I could put is like, how great is his voice in this? And as you said, and just his intonation and everything. Yeah. You can sort of imagine, I think, hearing this version, what it would be like to be in like a coffee shop and like
00:17:00
Speaker
It's just like an open mic and you're like, what is this? And it's just a guitar and a guy, but this guy is selling this thing. And I don't know who Maria is or why she came from Nashville, but I want to know. And this is leaving an imprint. Yes.
00:17:17
Speaker
So that one I mean, let's, let's, let's move past this one. Cause like, let's get deeper into the ones that have a lot of words. And so now we have the France 1994 12 minutes of this one. I didn't make a lot of comments. So I'll let you lead. My big thing was weird. I was just talking to you ahead of time. That's why I thought of it that at one point around 2000,
00:17:38
Speaker
I had collected all the Cannon Crow singles. I later sold them on eBay. I kind of regret I would have sold them to a fan or something. But one of those, if I remember correctly, it was one of the recovering B-sides had this, the France 1994 12-minute version. I just remember liking it. And because I heard it so much, I didn't really have much to say about it. But please, can you add something? Yeah. So this is, again,
00:18:00
Speaker
for that reason right this is one of the more famous versions and later released if you know on the august and everything after deluxe edition it's on the pet parish show oh right right is the deluxe and this is so it's again it's a long one he's he's singing like and actually i really love the youtube version because
00:18:19
Speaker
It's this one has like words to it, including like parts where he's sort of like, like, like, like, like, letters out the grunt he is making.
Emotional Intensity in 1994 France Performance
00:18:28
Speaker
Yes, because he is getting a lot across and sort of that feeling here. There's a lot about being alone.
00:18:37
Speaker
I don't want to be like you, who you is. I don't know, maybe a rock and roll. I feel like it's sort of, I think given the 1994, I read that as sort of like not wanting to be a rock and roll star. Leave me alone, leave me alone. Like he's saying, he's literally saying leave me alone. And that's what that sort of feels to me. And I think it's the one in some ways that's maybe the most connected. He sings at the end of part of the sort of humor song, Private Archipelago, which comes up on a few of these. That's something he's used a lot.
00:19:07
Speaker
And the being, you know, she lives alone on a private archipelago, living, being sort of out there, like alone, really connects to the way he frames the song in this one. I did not write the name of the person, and I think it was a comment to this one. It's the only note that I have that I didn't annotate correctly, but I'm pretty sure it was from this one. And thanks for reminding me, because someone said in a YouTube comment, oh, I just realized something.
00:19:34
Speaker
This song encompasses all three bands Duritz was involved in. Round here was a Himalayan song. He mentions, or maybe in one of them sings are part of Barely Out of Tuesday. That's what they said. There is some comment. Barely Out of Tuesday is later though. Oh great. Or maybe it was something else. Okay, but anyway, they said there's a, or no, no, it might've been a different one, but there's a reference to a Count and Crow song, I guess is what they were saying. And then the private archipelago was a sordid humor originally.
00:20:01
Speaker
yeah so that there yeah so it must have yeah maybe it wasn't barely out of tuesday but maybe that was a commenter but anyway yes that i thought it was interesting that i said oh that's kind of a neat connection that that brought up lyrics from the three groups he was a part of yeah he's covering yeah that's part of the interesting thing i think about these versions he's covering so much stuff yes i also think this version kind of highlights we haven't talked we talked about the song right obviously on the the when we did that podcast but
00:20:27
Speaker
about the whole album, but part of what's interesting, I think, in some of these lyrics, especially the alt lyrics is, you know, one of the things Adam said, you know, Maria is me, right? And I actually read a long, long piece a long time ago that was like, no, I think Maria is a real person, which is interesting. But if you just take that, the sort of Maria is him, there's a lot of interesting sort of dialogue here in the song, but then the middle parts
00:20:55
Speaker
that are kind of call and response sort of internal monologue, right? It's sort of Adam's voice speaking to Adam, right? And sometimes another person speaking to him, you know, there's we'll talk about some of the versions later where they're like,
00:21:11
Speaker
she says, she says it's only in my head. I know it's only in my, like it's, there's a conversation, but he's, there's an outside person and then what's going on in his head. And that's part of, I think the easiest way to read these lyrics in some ways sometimes is his monologue even more internally weirdly than, than the rest of the song, you know? No, no, no, great point.
00:21:35
Speaker
Yeah, and I really I really like this one. I this it's hard to rank this one because it's just again It's such a classic because it was done So many times and it's tough for me to kind of compare that to something that I've only heard once both ways, right? The newer one might hear all this zoom so fresh and better But then partly because I've heard that so much the one thing I'd say comparing it to the later versions I feel like the band is a little more sparse here and I think in part yes
00:21:59
Speaker
they're developing the concept, right? Like, what does it mean to follow Adam on all these tangents in the middle of a song? It's only 1994, they haven't been doing it that long. So I think the band is a little more sparse, whereas later you can see how they really aggressively are able to sort of follow him and move and like...
00:22:18
Speaker
Shift and change we can talk about we'll talk about this version And I think that's one way that this version is different than the later ones and we will talk about that so in some ways You know I don't right so what I'm gonna say next and almost they don't have a unique way to say About that so that okay, so the next one is a pink pop show 1997 and
00:22:38
Speaker
I didn't hear a lot of these before, but I kind of wanted to say I'm not surprised, which is that as someone who unlike you is not a, um, uh, I guess I, I didn't know as many of the live music and bootlegs, but when I was usually it would be that I would search live because I was like, you know what? I never heard song X live. So I was more searching the song live, usually break cuts than the concerts.
00:23:05
Speaker
But a couple of the concerts kept coming up and if there are a couple that I can watch the whole thing front to back and one of them would be any of the pink pop shows. Yeah, I think they're all incredible. We have so I'm not surprised that three are on this list and at least two of them. I absolutely agree with you. That's when you start to hear the more fuller sounds.
00:23:23
Speaker
And I put, because you have two Pink Pops in a row, I don't know if you want to talk about both, 97 and 2000. The crowd's fantastic. I said, wow, there's so much extra fullness here. Charlie's adding all these extra notes and guitar. So please, I'll let you- Yeah, well, Pink Pop, right? Two things about Pink Pop. One, they always broadcast the shows. There's great high quality. I think that's part of one of the reasons why those end up sticking out is there's great high quality versions of it. Oh, if somebody doesn't know Pink Pop, did you want to- Oh yeah, sure. Pink Pop is a Dutch music festival that happens annually.
00:23:54
Speaker
And there's just European festival crowds are, let's just be frank, they're better than
Significance of Pink Pop Festival
00:24:02
Speaker
us, Eric. They're better at being music fans than us as a collective. And in particular, Dutch people love counting crows. There's just something about the Dutch crowd, the pink pop crowd and the crows that I feel like every, and we'll get when we talk about other
00:24:20
Speaker
There's one in 2003 where he just totally, like, some of these songs just totally shift because he can see how energized and like, how much Adam is feeling the crowd. So I think all of the versions from Pink Pop, they stand out among the versions because all of the alts that we're going to talk about with the Pink Pops, there's different, there's other versions that have the same lyrics in them.
00:24:43
Speaker
but man, he just seems to bring his best to them. And so these are the best versions of all. Because the crowd is, it's not just large because there's been large crowds in the US, but they're not paying attention. They're body surfing play on. I mean, I know a lot of these concerts are pre cell phones, but they, I mean, I just told you that I was just in the UK watching the cruise and they were the best experiences I think I've had because of the crowd, but before going to the UK and I'd like to go to the UK next time they go. And I don't think they play these large,
00:25:12
Speaker
you know, festivals anymore. But in my mind, that would have been a dream show to watch them in Pink Pop. In fact, I used to watch, I think you know what I'm talking about. I forget what year it was, but there was like a Miami version at Pink Pop. It was the best Miami version because they were so into the Ascension near the end of the song.
00:25:30
Speaker
Yeah, you can literally see at the end of this version, 97, it's very quiet in the end, Adam's doing Private Archipelago, and you can see people who aren't what I would call dancing, but they're just bouncing with excitement. They're moving because they're so excited to hear what he is saying, and it's so great to see.
00:25:50
Speaker
This version I think is a really interesting, so I don't know how much you know the story of this song, right? Which is in the middle, Adam does a song called Barely Out of Tuesday.
00:26:00
Speaker
which is a song that he- Oh, this is then the one they were commenting that they did really out of Tuesday, right? This is the Courtney Cox song. Yes, yes, yes, sorry, yeah. So he co-wrote this song. I think the story is that he was seeing Courtney Cox, and he was teaching her how to play piano or something, and he came over, and she was sort of noodling on something. And he was like, I think you kind of wrote a song. And they worked on this together, and then
00:26:29
Speaker
Now, so this, this is, I think, I think this is after they broke up. I don't get Jeff on to talk about the exact timeline there, but, and the other thing though, of course, Courtney Cox is monkey, right? He calls her monkey. The song monkey is about her. And this is definitely after, because when he's singing towards the end,
00:26:50
Speaker
He says, you know, hey monkey, why do you want to leave me? So he's clearly maybe singing this song. Is it to get her back? I don't know. Maybe he's just thinking about this a lot. But it's a really interesting because later on his Dave
00:27:07
Speaker
Gibbs, the guy who wrote Crasher with him, he would play the song and he was like, oh Adam, I love this song and Adam never wants to play it because he doesn't like who he wrote it with anymore, but I like it, I'm going to keep playing it. I actually think Barely Adam Tuesday, also it's a good song, but it's really good round here alt lyrics. Again, because it's about that sort of feeling lost and kind of hazy.
00:27:34
Speaker
Barely out of Tuesdays because you're like, I woke up Wednesday morning, actually sometime Wednesday evening, right? Someone's just sort of floating and that feels very much of a piece with round here. It really connects to the lyrics and I think it works, you know?
00:27:48
Speaker
No, that that's great. Yeah. And I do. I think we hinted at this before, but I definitely at some point want to put together a show about international fans and have some on. We already had Dan in episode two talking about it a little bit from the British standpoint. And I had a preview it now. I have.
00:28:03
Speaker
somebody from the Netherlands. Sietz, I think is his name, and he has already agreed to come on at some point and talk about the Dutch love, so to speak. Yeah. For kind of Crows, which I'm excited to hear about. Of course, the connection with Blof. I think that's how you pronounce the name. Something like that. Yeah, we'll find out. He'll tell us what exactly is the correct thing to do. Exactly. Did you have anything else between the two
00:28:28
Speaker
Because I said you have the number, video four is the 97 pink pop and video five I think is the 2000 pink pop. So 2000 is interesting. So before, this is actually slightly pre-Crows Town, there was something called Boot City.
00:28:41
Speaker
Bunch of people from there migrated and basically created Crows Town. And in 2005, someone had the bright idea, it was very bright actually, to basically create a best of all these albums, right? Best live versions. And so the goal was some people made some suggestions, some moderators picked a list of, call it 10 of them or something. And then people voted on the best version of these songs.
00:29:07
Speaker
winner for best version of round here. Again, recognizing this is like 2005 or six. So there's a bunch of stuff that's happened after, but the winner was this Pink Pop 2000 version, which features the song by Robin Hitchcock. She doesn't exist anymore in the middle. Okay.
00:29:23
Speaker
I like this version, I don't think it's the best. One of the reasons I put it on here was because this was voted the best one. And I actually think, I like this and I get this, but I actually, again, I would put some other stuff above this. I think, for example, the Barely Out of Tuesday one from 97, I would put that above this one. This one has a lot of though, if you want to play with what he's singing about stuff,
00:29:48
Speaker
Adam sings, I'm the girl on the car in the parking lot, which is a particularly interesting line when he's been singing about she doesn't exist anymore. Is she him? Is he singing about a version of himself that is gone then at that point?
00:30:05
Speaker
All I need is you. Again, is you another person or is it some version? You can get kind of lost and really break that one down. That's true. I have to admit, I never thought as deeply about these live alts as his actual lyrics. I spent so much time thinking of the lyrics and who he's referencing. I never really, I guess because I always thought he was just borrowing from other songs.
00:30:28
Speaker
You know, like he did. Right. Like we'll talk about that, you know, where sometimes he just brings another song. So I just thought, oh, he wants to incorporate that. But you're right. In some cases, these alts.
00:30:37
Speaker
Maybe because I didn't know all of the songs. In some cases, Alts, that maybe he was making up new lyrics, if you were. I actually thought they were from other songs. Right. Sometimes I'll do that thing. Sometimes something new will be happening, whereas in the past, as soon as I had like a smartphone, I'll be Googling to try to figure out like, is this a song I don't know? Or is this just stuff he's making up off the top of his head? Sometimes it's a song I didn't know. There was like,
00:31:02
Speaker
There's a rain king from like 2013. They started doing regularly with like a blue Nile song and an elbow song and different ones. And I was just, I didn't know those songs. And so I'm like, well, these are, these are cool lyrics. And it's like, Oh, these are, he's singing a song. But then other times you're starting to Google stuff and you're like, those are just words that are coming out up the top of his head. Yes. Yes. Or that he came up with at some point and then he's bringing it up. Yeah. No, great. Yeah.
00:31:26
Speaker
So how did you feel about that one though? Knowing now that that one was voted the best? Uh, the 2000, the 2000. Well, I guess it was my favorite of the, I mean the acoustic one, I kind of have to move to the side because it was acoustic. Of the first five, that was my favorite of those, but it was not my favorite of
00:31:48
Speaker
of the 12. I'd maybe okay number four of the 12 or something like that. I think it was because I maybe because I like the full maybe because I thought the band was adding some extra things. I guess I'm missing more on the actual music. At least in my mind, I'd agree. I think the music is good in that one. I think the way they play that that's a good point the way the way the band plays she doesn't exist anymore in the middle is really cool.
00:32:13
Speaker
So again, not surprisingly, maybe half of these are close to half are filmed in, not in the United States. The next one also is not, it's a German music festival, I believe.
00:32:28
Speaker
Oh, jeez, I just took down the... And so what year was this one? This was 2002. Yes, Jazz Fest. Oh, no, it's not Jazz Fest. That's a mistake on my part. Okay. It's Rock'em Ring, I think. Oh, Rock'em Park. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. They're the same festival in different places, I'm told. Yeah. By my friends who are from Germany and go to this festival. Yep. So I don't know. I guess by this point, again, this is like a lot of this was new to me and I'm kind of hearing the same song when I was going through these. But I was like,
00:32:57
Speaker
This is the first time I was really reflecting on maybe a comment you just gave, which is that when he has these really long versions, clearly, I think some of it is planned and was planned and rehearsed, and then some of it is spontaneous. I think nowadays, almost all of it is rehearsed. There's less spontaneity, even when they do new arrangements. Maybe they add a little thing here and there, but they're playing the same song every night and they're just adding a little.
00:33:26
Speaker
I was this version for whatever reason made me reflect on this a little more. Yeah. Well, and part of it, I think, is sometimes when you're hearing an alt, if they've been doing it somewhat regularly, the first time may be fully spontaneous. But then the second time you got to think, well, all of the guys, once he starts going into the same thing, have a sense of where they're going. Exactly. Like, obviously now at this point, right, Goodnight Elizabeth with pale blue eyes is literally, I mean, that's a
00:33:52
Speaker
That's basically a medley at this point, right? They've played that so many times. There's a way that goes in. But even just, you know, something like she doesn't exist anymore. They had done that before that ping pop version. Right. So even if, again, the first time was just Adam riffing by time. Number 10 that he decides to go to that likely, I think likely based on the settlers. I don't think he's planned that he's going to go into. She doesn't exist anymore. Right. I think once he starts picking that, they go, OK, I get it. Now we're going to follow.
00:34:19
Speaker
Yep. Yeah. So I think you're right there. Is it this one? I think again, my notes aren't exact because I didn't go back and listen to everything two or three to three or four times. But I think this is the last or this is this one's everyone we've done. I think has had no Emmy. I, is that correct? This is, this is the first one with Emmy. I think the first one with Emmy, maybe it's either the first one with me or the last one might've been him. There's no video of that one. So I don't, he might've been, Oh, okay.
00:34:45
Speaker
No, but I think my timeline on when exactly he became a permanent member and that is it might have been on the desert. Yeah, I kind of think he's not there on that one because I think I said, I don't know, I just wrote a comment to myself. Listen, I missed it. Like, it's always interesting not to see me in 2000, but I can be wrong. And also what part of it might be in his role in terms of what he's doing. It might have been in the background more. Yeah. Yeah. I wrote that if you remember, Dan's hat is particularly awesome here.
00:35:13
Speaker
If you look at the live video, Dan is wearing this large red hat, almost like, you know, cause Dan loves wearing
Dan's Hat Style & Adam's Personality
00:35:18
Speaker
hat. It's interesting seeing Dan's hat evolution over time, right? Cause Dan wore beanies for a while. I think, did he go where he was wearing baseball caps sometime? I think. Yeah, for sure. And then, then he had like the cowboy hats, right? Dan at some point. Anyway, it's not that I studied it that much, but watching them so many times, but this one, Dan has a great hat. It's almost worth watching it just for that.
00:35:41
Speaker
I almost want to, if I ever meet him again, I'll compliment him on his hats. So we're halfway through these. I will just say this one. So this one, the alt is Come Pick Me Up, which is a song by Ryan Adams. So this is one where I always talk about how it's important to me that the lyrics really connect to the song.
00:36:03
Speaker
And this one, I kinda don't give a shit, because I love that song. And it's cool to hear Adam sing it and do it in this way. Like, I'm not really sure what the connection is. Like, you could say, like, is Maria the one that, I don't know, that came and picked him up. But that's really, it's a song about, that song's a song about a busted relationship. And it's just, I think Adam sounds really cool singing it. And so I don't mind that I actually can't connect those dots. Let's go to the next one. Sometimes you can't. Yeah, just like movies sometimes, like they're like, oh, they put that in for,
00:36:32
Speaker
They're making a commentary on capitalism or something like, no, they just put that in because it was a funny little thing. Adam was hanging out with Ryan Adams and he liked the song and he started singing it. I don't think it's a big deal. Just for full whatever, full just for completeness. If you're looking for that round here live version from France, which you said later came up in the August deluxe.
00:36:54
Speaker
that was on the Angels of the Silence B side. That's officially CDC. Okay, so we're halfway through this list. Number seven, staying in Europe, Belgium, I think, right? First of all, in the YouTube video, there's a hilarious short interview before the show with Adam, and his hair is in the hard candy era. But kind of mohawk-y though somehow? Yeah, it's like the mohawk-y dreads, which I think he might even have, I think, in a couple of the photos in the hard candy photo shoot.
00:37:24
Speaker
They just hilarious seeing him and Dan there and their personalities. He's somewhat flirting with the Belgian host a little bit. But it's just pure Adam. Yeah, it just reminds me of like, that's Adam's personality. Like he was this mix of being like introvert, extrovert, friendly, smart ass together. Yeah, it's great. So on the song itself,
00:37:52
Speaker
Oh, you know what it remind? One thing on the interview that I remembered, which you hadn't talked about yet, which as far as I know, they don't really do anymore. Again, I think it stopped when they got older. But I did remember, and that's how I met them the one time was they did used to come out and meet fans after the show every show. And they mentioned it because that was the height of their personality. You almost think the opposite would be true like that. Now they have more time. I understand why they don't do it. But
00:38:17
Speaker
That one time I did meet them, they actually did a little fan meet and greet after the show. Outside the bus, you know. Yeah, exactly, outside the bus.
00:38:25
Speaker
Anyway, I didn't have much to say except I was just getting impressed by Charlie every show. So some of these videos, they really focus on Charlie, the camera when he's playing and that even brings to life more the richness that he adds. So, but please. This one, the alt is the Natalie and brilliant song, Torn. Oh, which I love. This is one that's a one time only. Only to this once. I think Torn is also a cover by the way. Torn is technically a cover, but it's Natalie and brilliant.
00:38:53
Speaker
Who knows who did the original? Other than the guy, other than whoever gets the checks from BMI. Apparently, she played right before them and Adam just heard her play this, play that song, and he got to the middle of round here and just started singing torn. Again, it's one of those things. We've all heard torn a million times. You haven't really heard torn until you've heard Adam re-interpret that and just
00:39:23
Speaker
sing, this is how I feel, you know, like, and this is like totally into his own way.
00:39:30
Speaker
It's a cool, it's a very cool version. Let me go back and listen to that. Maybe I guess I didn't focus on, cause I, I liked the song tour and I remember that I liked this. I think this was in my right. It was like the fourth European show in a row on this list. And I want to go back and hear that. I remember it again, that I liked the, uh, is that, so he, he didn't do that very much though. I think that's the only time that's to my knowledge, the only time he ever did that one. That's a one timer. A lot of these, again, you could find a bunch of different versions that sound similar. That's a one timer.
00:39:59
Speaker
According to this, Torn originally went from a Danish band and then covered by an American band that was somewhat popular, and then a third American Norwegian band, and then Natalie did it. It was all within five years. That's pretty interesting. Yeah, anyway. I was actually living in Australia when it got released. It was interesting because some songs there that were so huge,
00:40:29
Speaker
to me should should have crossed over. Yeah, as a side note, I'll never give up that there's there's a band if you look it up if you like like kind of skater. I wouldn't say emo but like skater rock I want to say that
00:40:43
Speaker
that there's a great band called Killing Heidi. Since then, the woman has done kind of alt country and a lot of Fleetwood Mac-esque things. When she was in high school, this group Killing Heidi was incredible. And I was like, they were so good that I said, oh, they're going to be a huge international success. And they weren't. And instead, the US released, which I guess she's Canadian. Who was the girl that did Skater Boy, Skater Girl? Oh, Avril Lavigne. Avril Lavigne. Avril Lavigne to me was a copy of them, but much less talented.
00:41:13
Speaker
in my mind, and she was a huge success, so you never know. But yeah, the Natalie and Brugley song, I had no idea, was a big hit in other countries as well, including the US, so. Okay, here we go. Now we get to, well, this one I really focused on the, I know you've been focusing on the alt lyrics, where I was focusing a little more on the music, but this was one that really caught my attention, which was the number eight. Now the location was, I don't know, you put 2000. I don't even know if I had a date, a location on that one, I don't know if the video had one,
00:41:42
Speaker
No, but this one they had the Van Morrison song, which was what sweet thing in the middle. I thought that was fantastic. Your thoughts? See, and this is one where, again, I guess where it's about how it hits you, right? Because that song
00:41:57
Speaker
I think it sounds fine, but it never really, those lyrics in the middle of round here never really emotionally connected to me. And that was a very common one, especially 2002, 2003, they brought it back in 2010 or 12, because it's on Echoes of the Outlaw Roadshow. You can hear a similar version of this, on Echoes of the Outlaw Roadshow.
00:42:18
Speaker
It is, you know, I again, I just that's one that just never it sounds fine. But musically, I'm so curious, like, what about those lyrics seem to sort of what what about those? What about that really grabbed you? So no, it was more of this that I'd like to know. I actually agree. I guess it's because I like Van Morrison. And so got my but you're right that I think compared to some of the old lyrics both before and after the way he it wasn't I don't know what's the word seamless. It wasn't a stone together.
00:42:47
Speaker
as the other ones. Like it felt more of wedged in there. I don't want to say wedged. It's not that hard, but yes, I agree that it didn't flow, I guess for lack of a better word as well. And I didn't have that like in my top, except that I love the Van Morrison shout out.
00:43:05
Speaker
I mean, it's almost like when he was doing Thunder Road and like the Bruce Springsteen, that's Rain King alt, right? And then the Bruce Springsteen fans are like, yeah, Thunder Road. I guess that's what I felt about the Van Morrison more than that. It's a great alt, so to speak. So yeah. So then we OK, so this is the number nine is another one that I also had on CD because it is the town hall. So the August.
00:43:29
Speaker
Oh, re-release. What is it? But the August Town Hall, where they just everything after live, I think it's called. Yeah. But that was from an anniversary, right? Was that a 20th anniversary? It was just so they did that concert. Interestingly enough, when the Deluxe album was released. Oh, interesting story about this one, because this I was at this one. Oh.
00:43:47
Speaker
You were at the recording show? I was at the recording of that. Yeah. And it's funny because the week before I had tickets to a show in New Jersey that I couldn't get to, it was, I had bought tickets and later realized that the travel was going to be impossible. And that night they just decided to play August all the way through.
00:44:07
Speaker
Deeply distraught after seeing the set list the next day I was like oh my god if I had a ticket I couldn't come to this thing and and so the next week not next week but like three weeks later they were doing the show a town hall in New York for To say it was that to celebrate the deluxe edition of August Okay, and so they didn't announce anything in advance other than this is to celebrate this I have the poster still somewhere Oh
00:44:30
Speaker
And they hope this is what they opened with, which is round here with reigning in Baltimore in the middle. Now, the fun thing is that down later, a few songs in, it started started to hit me. Oh, wait a minute. This is August all the way through. Oh, OK. So they did end up playing the whole thing. And that's the record. That's the one they released. So wait, they didn't announce it. And then so it was a surprise to everybody there that they just played. Oh, I did not know that. I just assumed that at least there was some like
00:45:00
Speaker
not announcement when they sold tickets, but that it was basically softly announced or whatever. It was almost like the one time I saw Billy Corgan and it wasn't when you bought the tickets, but when if you looked on the website or whatever, they were basically saying, hey, we're only playing from this new album. We're going to play it start to finish. Don't look for any classic hits on this one. But you're saying for this concert, they did not.
00:45:20
Speaker
They didn't announce, my friend Maggie and I literally like three or four songs in, we're like, wait a minute, this is the track list, right? This is double checking, right? Cause we didn't have, again, this is 2007. We didn't have smartphones. So I was like, this is definitely just the track list. And, uh, which is awesome. And I, and of course.
00:45:36
Speaker
famously right they do they didn't do reigning in Baltimore and so they did here. That's what I'm gonna say. That's the one I guess right double edged sword that is a great alt. But if you bought that album, like I did, and you're like, Oh, I want to hear him play just on the piano. That's not gonna happen. Yeah, that's in in the round here lyrics. Yeah, I think it were I mean,
00:45:59
Speaker
This one works, I think it works better in Rain King, personally. And we'll definitely have an episode about Rain King. That might need to be a double. At certain points during the Rain King one, you might just need to, you might be like, look, you'll hold up a hand, you'll walk away and you'll come back 15 minutes later and I'm still expounding about this particular alt. But yeah, I think this works. I actually, one thing I noted, one of the things that motifs that Adam comes back to a lot at the beginning of the middle is,
00:46:28
Speaker
All I need is you. Did you think you were dreaming? I said, no, I didn't think that I was dreaming. And I said, so I just want it to be true. All I need is you. And I actually thought this version of that is particularly good.
Memorable Concert Experiences
00:46:42
Speaker
I'll also call it, I think this version has it. I realized I made a mistake not forgetting and making a note.
00:46:49
Speaker
There's parts where after carving out our names, he'll say, we're carving out our names and he'll literally kind of make a hand signal for like, and say it, A-D-A-M. I always thought that was just a cool bit. I don't know. I like that.
00:47:02
Speaker
Yeah. Now that you say that, maybe they should be carving out other band members' names while he's at it. What do I say? D-A-V-E. Well, it's funny because speaking about other band members, and I've said this numerous times, but one out of the... Now, of course, he wasn't a member of the band at first, but I just put some notes here that I thought, just like some of the Pink Pop shows, I thought that Dan and Charlie were particularly good.
00:47:31
Speaker
I guess Dave's parts are pretty, you know, he has to do the rhythm, so he can't add too much extra. But I thought Jim was particularly incredible here, I put. That's some of this. And I think this one, there's actually a recording of the video too. Yeah, there's video on this one. There's video, and that's why I could see it. And again, I just love Jim's enthusiasm. And this is, and also, you know, the pink pop ones and also this one,
00:48:01
Speaker
Adam definitely, if it's a, if it's knows that he, it's a recorded version, he steps it up, which I understand you can't go at 11 out of 10 every night, right? That's when he loses his voice or whatever. Sometimes you do have to be special that, but I just found that on the pink pop shows and this one, I just said, wow, the adrenaline Adam just steps it up. And I noticed it on some of the other ones too.
00:48:29
Speaker
Yeah, I don't have much else to add. Obviously I had heard this before from the recording version, but yeah, I don't think this is the first time I watched the video. So that was great. And the next version's from Pink Pop again. Yes. And this is, I'll just say it now, this was my favorite of the 12. Okay.
00:48:47
Speaker
Again, I just thought the music was great. I liked, and I guess he says it in the other stuff, in the other versions, but you know, I think Adam with his, do you think that I was dreaming? Maybe the way he was, whatever, avoiding it or whatever really hit with me. I think, did you mention that there is the, have you seen me lately? And I love that song. And it does. Yeah, that's one of my favorites. I think that song really fits in there. Sorry.
00:49:10
Speaker
Yeah, no, I think somewhere in America it's starting to rain. I love that. Which takes on a little bit of x-ray when he's singing it in Europe, right? He's standing on a stage in Europe. I was out on the radio starting to change. Somewhere out in America. I don't know. I'm over here. I'm in front of all of you. I'm sweating.
00:49:32
Speaker
I've lost myself, but also sort of it gets a little bit triumphant because it's like lost but sort of bound because he's in front of all these people singing this, right? He's out on the radio maybe starting to change in a good way. This is one, by the way, where it was really hard. There's a lot of good versions.
00:49:51
Speaker
the version on Across a Wire also has this. It's buried in the bottom of this playlist. But I liked this version of that better than that one, which is why I put... This is one where I was particularly... I think The Have You See Me Lately Alt is one of my favorites. And there was a few of them, so this was definitely a pick. And I'm with you. I think this one
00:50:13
Speaker
This or Pink Pop 97, I think would be my two favorites. Yeah. Yeah. That's what I love. And this was one, although it wasn't the Pink Pop Miami that I kept looking at years ago, I think that might've been like O3, if they had a Pink Pop O3, but about there. There was no, O3, they didn't play around here on that one, otherwise it's probably, Pink Pop O3 would be on here too. I think that's the one that I love, the Miami, that used to get me so excited.
00:50:38
Speaker
But yeah, for those that listen here and go and watch a Pink Pop 08 round here, just another example, the crowd, all of them are just giving their, like their eyes are fixated on the music and Adam's performance. No, like people are not talking to their boyfriend. They're not doing what, like they're all, you know, 95% of them are into the music, into the performance. And that just, it gives me extra energy. And I'm sure it gives Adam extra energy when he's doing it. I just so attend to free smartphone.
00:51:09
Speaker
One thing I thought about too is that I was joking earlier about in maybe 2000, that Dave particularly jumping around, you don't see that anymore and Dan doing a little more. This one, I actually was thinking about Adam. I said, Adam is jumping around like a complete madman in his 40s. Even now, he's still animated, but he's not going to jump around like he was in this version. He starts this version on his back from the end of Cowboys.
00:51:38
Speaker
Okay, I didn't realize that. He's like literally laying on the floor. He's like laying back on the ground as they go into round here. Okay. And he like pulls himself. I think that's part of the dramaticness too. Like you talk about like the way he's selling it can really be like he's so invested in this one. Yes. It really feels like he's wrenching all this stuff out of him. Exactly. And it's a
00:52:01
Speaker
It's a tour de force. Yeah, I think this is a spectacular. And he's more likely to do that. It goes back to what I said before. And I'll send you that video because I think someone recorded it. But like I know he liked doing the butter miracle stuff. But and as I said a couple of times that I thought Bobby and the Red Kings is a great live song. But when I saw it in Manchester and the crowd was so into it, he got more into it. And like I really thought at one point he was almost going to cry at Bobby and the Red Kings near the end.
00:52:26
Speaker
because he was like that's what this whole song is about right the crowd didn't do it and this is yeah so i felt like you i uh yeah i was just doing the math by the way he was 44 on this uh when he went when he was there in 2008 okay so we have two more to go
00:52:43
Speaker
The next one is the, in Borgata, Casino Atlantic City. Now interestingly enough, I did see them in Atlantic City, but it was 05 at the Hard Rock. And I do remember when they played- Oh, that's interesting. That's one of Miller's first shows. Yes, I think, yes, that's right. And that was a really short show. But when I did my list, I think they only played 12 songs or something instead of the usual 20.
00:53:07
Speaker
Now this one, my only comment about this, cause I, you know, I guess nothing really stood out except that, again, for fans that want to watch more YouTube videos, the videos that this SPG does, and we mentioned him once, you could talk about it again, the video quality is, I find just to be excellent. Yeah, they're terrific. Yeah, this is Ehud, who is one of the big tapers before he became, like started working for the band, essentially, at least, or at least for this, doing, you know, doing video.
00:53:35
Speaker
This is, again, this is an exceptionally long version. It opens with the Springsteen song, Mary Queen of Arkansas.
00:53:45
Speaker
14 minutes and I think the longest, the one's embedded so it's off the tell, but of the 12 you posted here it looks like the longest one. 14 minutes and 20 minutes. This is also by the way the first appearance on this playlist of Adam doing the, around here were his coolest kittens out there, the dogs they thrive, which is from that Himalayan's version that now is basically he hasn't sung the original in a very long time.
00:54:10
Speaker
to the point where even if I'm doing karaoke, I just sing Cool as Kittens, because it's so natural to me. Oh, cool. Yeah, and then this is one that he just spun up, right? The middle here is about all the lights on Broadway. I'm going to be a rock and roll star. It's this long, drawn out, sort of like an autobiography of Adam told through
00:54:36
Speaker
this sort of story, which is kind of interesting. That's kind of why I put this on here. I don't love this one as much as some of the others.
00:54:43
Speaker
but it's really interesting to see them kind of following. And I don't, maybe he had done something like this before, but not a ton. And so it's really cool to hear the band kind of following him, this thing that he's just sort of crafting on the fly. This is another one where I'll really call out Jim and seeing the video, there's a good angle of like Jim, like just like really adding stuff during the breakdown and like bringing it all the way back up
00:55:10
Speaker
When again, you talk about the trust level, right? Because it's like, he doesn't know what the climax is. This isn't a song where there's a, right? This isn't, he knows what the climax of Have You Seen Me Lately is, right? He doesn't know what the climax of all the lights on Broadway alt are. They're all making it up as they go along. And that's one of the, again, it's just a kind of an incredible thing to see, like literally off the top of their head, just 14 minutes of this song, so.
00:55:39
Speaker
Oh, great. And so the last on our, and again, the actual YouTube playlist we're going to post has 21 songs, but the last of the main 12, if you will, Chris Migg's hot 12 of the round here, uh, is, uh, is live in this one. Interestingly, it's live at the Sydney Opera House 2013.
00:55:57
Speaker
Interestingly enough, this was the only one that came up on my playlist is already having been watched. So I guess I watched it, even though I almost, it's funny that again, you recommended, I'd say one of the songs I never watch live on YouTube, at least is around here. But this one, I think I watched it because that show, I remember being excellent. I think it used to have the whole, I think the Opera House took it down. Oh, did they? Okay. Because I remember the whole show was up there for a long time. Yeah, it might. If maybe it comes up every so often, but
00:56:26
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If it's on now or not, I really recommend, I think they do a great job at the Opera House in 2013. Let me just quickly go to mine. Yeah, anyway, I don't have much else to say. I thought it was good. Chris, I'll go to your comments. Yeah, and this one has an interesting, this is, the core of this alt is one that he did a lot, which is come outside, climb out your window. And this was a big thing, 2013, 14, 15.
00:56:55
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sort sounding it's interesting because it's sort of like Palisades Park. I think initially people actually thought when he started doing this alt that he was singing something from Palisades Park and turns out it's just a couple of words that are evocative of similar things. But this is an interesting version because it's also got the song Doris Day by Sorted Humor which was much more frequently used as a
00:57:19
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as a murder of one alt, but it's in here, along with more private archipelago. So it's a long version, I think a very, another very, very good version. And kind of before, again, I feel like there was a time period, 14, 15, 16, where they got a little bit, they got a little bit repetitive in the middle. And actually, again, they kind of did an interesting thing, right, where he kind of just took it back to your point
00:57:43
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Eric, he said, I don't want to do eight minutes of round here because I can get another song in and maybe I'm not feeling it. I don't need to sing something in the middle. And then, of course, on this tour, they went back to doing some stuff in the middle of round here. Yes.
00:57:59
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But again, in some ways a good thing, right? I'd rather him be inspired in the middle of a song and feeling like this is what I want to come out of me tonight as opposed to just deciding, you know, I feel like I have to. So I'm just going to keep doing come outside in the middle because someone expects me to do a part in the middle of this song, you know? Yeah. Yeah. It is interesting. I was thinking that that that like.
00:58:21
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Yeah. Round here was already one of their longer songs, right? Uh, I know it's not their longer. Like I think maybe it's a five and a half minute song on the record. Right. Oh, is that true? Is that how long it is? It's long. I mean, it's, it's not short. Yeah. And then, and then they extended. So did you have any other things you wanted to highlight post 2013? The one this year and again, I think the one this summer, if you haven't go find a long version on nugs and listen to it with the, you know,
00:58:50
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with the new alt, the, you know, wide, oh, I can't even think of the words in there. I can't think of it right now. I've talked about it so much, but, you know, step, and the different version, it's kind of a different version of a step outside, right? Yes. But I think I really like that.
00:59:09
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as well. I would love to test you on your alt lyric knowledge. You're so good about what years and the references, because I wouldn't know all these references or where they came from. I didn't even realize that the thing about the sordid humor, I took that off, that the one alt lyric is from a sordid humor.
00:59:32
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Yeah, I mean, that's interesting. At some point, we should talk about sorted humor, right? Because I've never, you know, one thing I can say I've never done is really go back and listen to those originals. I don't know how available they are. But it'd be kind of interesting because, you know, those were the building blocks of a lot of different stuff. It got me thinking, by the way, totally off the subject. I was sometimes thinking about like, of course, we have our podcast that some of the topics will do vary. I don't know, mainstream topics like
00:59:59
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ranking the songs on August, and how many millions did that sell, and then having also complementing those podcasts with something like this, which is very, I don't want to say esoteric, because around here is a big, but analyzing the alt lyrics would be definitely a deep dive. Part of me was thinking, like, what other really deep dives could we do? And I was already thinking this, but one, and I'm not saying we will, but it made me laugh, because this week on Facebook, I think Jim was posting, or in the last couple of weeks, Jim was writing about
01:00:30
Speaker
some of the songs that he adds some harmony to, and the challenge of it while he's trying to, I think it was in Come Around. And then he's trying to play and play that. And one thing I was joking with my one friend about, I said, you know what I'm getting better at, which I still don't know everything, but this is so nerdy. What
01:00:55
Speaker
background vocals are done by which band member? Because some of them, the main backup lyricist is Dan. Sometimes on St. Robinson at the end, it's Charlie. And then there's some that can come around. I think Jim's the main guy. And I wish I was a girl when I say Jim comes in a lot too. So anyway, I just laugh that that's one
01:01:19
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That would be an interesting topic to break down, I think, to watch some videos and really try to think about this. Yeah, it is. And that's something I did not... I mean, I knew that there were the harmonies in this sometimes. And of course, Dave sings a lot too. I'm guessing some of those August songs, he might be the main background singer. I'd have to look at the video. But certainly there are other ones that... Emmy's the main, Dan and Charlie, they do different... Yeah. Are you telling me we're going to have to watch some Counting Crows videos, I guess? Yeah, we might have to. Apparently. We might have to.
01:01:46
Speaker
Yeah. So you're just as a takeaway, right? Again, in things, I highly recommend just how to dive into eight. I will also say if you do take on the playlist, you don't have to listen to 12 of them all the way through. You can listen to two at a time and come back to it the next day. Because there is a point where the beginning of round here does just become white noise while you wait for the alt.
01:02:06
Speaker
And all jokes, that's what I did. All jokes aside, I actually split it under three days. I was just more joking with you about it. Because I didn't know as much. Someone will put together like a compilation and you'll be like midway through and you'll be like, this is actually there is such a thing as too many versions of this. My brain is much now. No, but it's great. But certainly, like you said, I mean, would you be before we go, I guess round here and ranking would have the most alts. Is that true? Yeah, round here, ranking or number one?
01:02:35
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and then Murder of One and Goodnight Elizabeth. I was just going to say, I think Goodnight Elizabeth would be... I didn't even think about Murder of One partly because they haven't played it as much recently, but you're right. Yeah, Goodnight Elizabeth was the other one I was thinking of. We could spend a long time on Goodnight Elizabeth. We'll talk. We'll figure out the next one. Because we're going to talk... We'll give it away, right? The next thing we're going to talk about is recovering the satellites given the hoopla, the documentary being made. It's time
01:02:59
Speaker
And this is the next one in order, right? We did August 1st. That's right. Yep. Our plan for episode 10 is the recovering the satellites, deep dive ranking and special guests. So hopefully we can make that happen. And anything else before we did a do? Yeah. But so I'm saying we'll have to talk. We'll have to talk a little bit, Elizabeth. Maybe that's the next one because as we talk about
01:03:21
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recovering the satellites, it'll be top of mind. There's also a lot of alts in Mercury, but less so. Elizabeth's more the song. Certainly one they haven't played. I don't think I've seen Mercury a lot. Maybe actually once, I think. I was surprised. I was like, oh, maybe my first show they actually played it. I didn't remember.
01:03:41
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So yeah, well I hope you enjoyed it. Enjoy the playlist. If you haven't, I highly recommend it. And again, I think we're saying if you listen to just two, Pink Pop 9708, those are our shout outs. Yeah, I think that's right. And I was laughing because this is our version of the, I know some podcasts, like movie podcasts release their commentary track.
01:04:01
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right where you're supposed to listen to them while you're watching the movie and this is a little different but don't listen to us while you're listening to the songs that sounds like a bad idea no yeah listen to the song and then you can come to us for the commentary so that's great well thank you so much for joining us down here on Sullivan Street we'll see you next episode