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Roller Skating With Cancer Trey Knight- Circuspreneur Podcast Ep.99
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On this episode of the Circuspreneur podcast honoring Mental Health Awareness Month, host Shenea Stiletto interviews World Champion Artistic Roller Skater, Founder of Stilt world, and Stage Four Cancer Survivor Trey Knight.
Trey Knight is a six time National Champion Artistic Roller Skater, who has worked with mega celebrities such as Gwen Stefani, Katy Perry, and Usher. After approximately 1.5 years of severe pain and several misdiagnoses, he was finally diagnosed in October 2019, where he found himself already in stage 4 cancer, which included the primary tumor, involvement of three lymph nodes, and a small tumor in his right lung.
Trey started harsh chemotherapy the Friday following the seven-show run of Debbie Allen’s annual Christmas show, “Hot Chocolate Nutcracker.” Just a few months before the COVID shutdown in March 2020, which led to the cancellation of sporting events and entertainment gigs. In this powerful episode, Trey bravely discusses nearly six years of treatments, his optimistic outlook on life as a creative, and the support of the Circus and Entertainment community during his time of need.
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Introduction and Guest Introduction
00:00:04
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00:00:15
Circuspreneur Podcast
It helps us to continue to bring the industry high-level content. I'm your host, Shanae Stiletto, and my guests on today's Circuspreneur podcast, honoring Mental Health Awareness Month, is world champion artistic roller skater, founder of Skilt World, and stage four cancer survivor, Trey Knight.
00:00:32
Circuspreneur Podcast
Thank you for coming on to the podcast, Trey. adore you. And how are you?
00:00:39
Trey Knight
Well, it's wonderful to see you again.
Trey's Cancer Diagnosis and Treatment
00:00:41
Trey Knight
I adore you as well. And I, you know, I'm, I'm getting through it. it's been six years. We are transitioning right now, with potential new, uh, opinions and going a bit more aggressive with some of the treatments that I'm on.
00:00:58
Trey Knight
Um, but yeah, I mean, I, uh, I'm doing okay. I'm still, still around.
00:01:02
Circuspreneur Podcast
Thank you.
00:01:02
Trey Knight
So I'm very grateful of that. So.
00:01:06
Circuspreneur Podcast
Well, I've been watching your journey from afar, Trey. You're really open about your cancer journey and all of the things that you are surviving. and And want to tell listeners a little bit more about your background because you're such an exceptional person going through an extraordinary experience.
00:01:25
Circuspreneur Podcast
Trey Knight is also a six-time national champion artistic roller skater who has worked with mega celebrities such as Gwen Stefani Katy Perry and Usher. And after approximately a year and a half of severe pain and so and several misdiagnoses, he was finally diagnosed in October 2019, where he found himself already in stage four cancer, which included the primary tumor involvement of three lump nodes and a small tumor in his right lung.
Career Amidst Health Challenges
00:01:49
Circuspreneur Podcast
Trey started harsh chemotherapy the Friday following the seven show run of Debbie Allen's annual Christmas show, hot chocolate nutcracker just a few months before the COVID shutdown in March, 2020, which led to the cancellation of sporting events and entertainment gigs. So when we were all obviously in this type of crisis of where is the industry going to go?
00:02:09
Circuspreneur Podcast
We're in the circus arts. We're in the entertainment industry. Everyone's, you know, so afraid about where their career is going. You, in addition to that, are fighting for your life because now you discover that you have cancer.
00:02:26
Circuspreneur Podcast
And so in the midst of that, Trey, was that like in, you know, seeing the industry shut down, in seeing all of these difficult, you know, experiences that, you you know, all of your fellow fellow entertainer friends are having, but in the midst of this, you also too have this
00:02:27
Trey Knight
Mm-hmm.
00:02:43
Circuspreneur Podcast
you know, crazy diagnosis, um which the culmination up to that was you, you know, kind of searching to see what was wrong with you. um And um so how did that feel and the midst of that? I can't imagine. I remember at that time in feeling so overwhelmed myself, and I can't imagine adding a cancer diagnosis on top of that.
00:03:07
Trey Knight
it was a lot to take on at once. I mean, yeah for sure. So it was a year and a half of extreme pain, multiple doctors, different therapies. don't have to go too far into it, but misdiagnosis wanted to handle a labrum tear from years ago on a, uh, tour that I was on. And,
00:03:26
Trey Knight
Then the next one thought that it was possibly my hip bones were too big for my sockets, which also didn't register at all. um So finally at a world competition with one of my skaters, Alison Kiger, we were there and unfortunately I started bleeding and maybe fortunately, but as soon as I got home, my doctor said, go to immediately to urgent care.
00:03:47
Trey Knight
and then I was diagnosed with stage four. So to get right to your question, I made it through the shows through so much pain, the rollers, you know, whatever I could do to get to the shows, uh, went right into intensive care, uh, not intensive care, chemotherapy, the Friday following.
00:04:08
Trey Knight
And then So that was a lot already. And then when and the beginning of the year, i was still working, I did an episode of Lucifer on an escape scene, which was a lot of fun, although I was very sick on chemo.
00:04:25
Trey Knight
And i only i kept it quiet at this point. um And then I also had a booking as a body double on ice skates for the Goldbergs, which was also a lot of fun.
00:04:32
Circuspreneur Podcast
Thank
00:04:34
Trey Knight
But um I did let crew know and stunt coordinator know that because that my neuropathy was so bad. And we were obviously out on ice for hours. So I had my heat pads, heat pockets and all my you know gear.
00:04:50
Trey Knight
So anyway, and then the final thing, this is when we were negotiating. i was going to be away and pass fine arts for a month with one of my stunt partners, lovely skater. And i we had the contract laid out and then shut downs.
00:05:04
Trey Knight
the contract, we fortunately got half of the pay on the contract, but
00:05:05
Circuspreneur Podcast
Wow.
00:05:10
Trey Knight
as you know it was a sharp uh quick shutdown and all of the sporting events no more competitions rinks are closed and all of our entertainment jobs the same shut down i did feel like as alone as i was I was so grateful that my mother could come out at each big marker, like each big new surgery or new you know situation I had to go through. She would be there for a while, couple of weeks usually to make sure that I ah can't even talk right now. I am on chemo that she would help me get through those certain points. Right.
00:05:54
Trey Knight
In time.
00:05:54
Circuspreneur Podcast
Mm-hmm.
00:05:55
Trey Knight
But now the other thing I did want to add about this Because there was no work, the industry was shut down.
Impact of COVID-19 on Health Focus
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Trey Knight
COVID was, as you know, in LA, the hospitals were full.
00:06:08
Trey Knight
It actually let me ease up on the idea that I had to work because my plan was I was going to try to book as many jobs in between my treatments that were everything.
00:06:19
Circuspreneur Podcast
Of course. it's That's what we do.
00:06:21
Trey Knight
Right. Because, you know, the show must go off. Right.
00:06:23
Circuspreneur Podcast
Yes.
00:06:24
Trey Knight
yeah Yeah, I was trying to plan my days off on the Palace of Fine Arts job so that I could come home, get my infusion, and then I would have the day off to recover, and then I would go back into shows.
00:06:37
Trey Knight
But that was when I was still at real high capacity performing. I mean, this is six years later, five years later now. you know I've lost, I'm down to 135 this week, 135 pounds.
00:06:47
Trey Knight
I was 174. i was one seventy four
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Circuspreneur Podcast
hmm
00:06:53
Trey Knight
and, uh, eight surgeries now and, um, 30, I just started my two days ago, 37 cycle of chemotherapy and I've had 34, I think, uh, radiation treatment.
00:07:07
Trey Knight
So it was 28 consecutive in my lower back on the main tumor. And then i had a major craniotomy, uh, where they removed a 3.4, 3.6 ice tumor that was pushing my midline over.
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Circuspreneur Podcast
Thank
00:07:21
Trey Knight
um they did five days of radiation after that craniotomy and then i just recently had an eight millimeter tumor show up in the actually underneath where the original one was that they just zapped it's called stereotactic radio surgery um for a small millimeter eight millimeter tumor and with my cancer it is one to three percent that ever reaches the brain so that's already ah mystery there.
00:07:54
Trey Knight
And then I've beaten two tumors so far, which the numbers, if it reaches the brain, are just a few months. So one thing I
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Circuspreneur Podcast
hmm
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Trey Knight
advocate is staying, ah try to be as informed as possible, but do get stuck on the dark numbers of percentages of death rates because every cancer is different.
00:08:08
Circuspreneur Podcast
and be
00:08:17
Trey Knight
Everyone's body is different and we all handle the treatments different.
Financial Struggles with Healthcare
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Trey Knight
So you gotta, you don't have to do anything. I'm not, I don't want to say you gotta, but, uh,
00:08:29
Trey Knight
Just try to be realistic and my thing is optimistic through this whole journey as dark and heavy alone. I'm
00:08:39
Circuspreneur Podcast
I'm so sorry, Trey.
00:08:40
Trey Knight
so grateful, but I'm still here.
00:08:44
Circuspreneur Podcast
We all are. I'm so grateful for you. And I'm so grateful that you're still here too. And you're such a fighter, Trey, and you're so phenomenal. And, you know, we discussed like how open you've been publicly about your journey and how hard that would be as an artist at your level to do that, because there's so much fear in this industry around being perceived as sick and not capable of doing the job or being injured and that people will see you as damaged goods and they won't work with your schedule.
00:09:16
Trey Knight
Yeah.
00:09:18
Circuspreneur Podcast
Like you'll have to figure that out. And you were already doing that because you're phenomenal and you're world champion and you've been coordinating high level entertainment for decades.
00:09:29
Circuspreneur Podcast
and And again, that's how we met. And so Just watching you being able to navigate this space as the warrior that you are, I think has been so important for industry friends and colleagues to see what this looks like from the inside out, because The fact that you might have to be quiet and you can't reach out to get the support you need to me is just really sad and heartbreaking. And I think that's something that needs to change. And I feel like you have changed the perception of that a lot through your journey while also to taking care of yourself. you know You talked about the fact that you've always carried your own personal insurance.
00:10:09
Circuspreneur Podcast
because you are an independent contractor, an independent performer. And where there there are wonderful things for that, I've always done the same thing. Even if I've gotten any insurance through an employer, I've never released my own personal insurance um and, you know, even like specialty insurances.
00:10:23
Circuspreneur Podcast
So can you do this?
00:10:24
Trey Knight
And it is a. hmm.
00:10:25
Circuspreneur Podcast
Yeah, right. How important that is too. So we find ourselves sometimes with like four different or five different policies that we have to maintain. And I imagine that that made a huge difference in your journey, even though your friends and your colleagues still had to set up a GoFundMe for you.
00:10:43
Circuspreneur Podcast
because of the astronomical costs of all of your treatments. And so you're not just dealing with the stress of losing work um because our bodies are everything for what we do. um And now that's like the one thing that you need to be working. That is not, you know, something that you can push like you're used to pushing. We're used to forcing ourselves beyond limits daily. That's just like what we do. But then now your body is, has been working against itself But I think that it's been such a fine-tuned instrument for so many years as the champion that you are, it's set you up to be this extraordinary expression of who you are today through this journey. So could you reflect a bit, Trey, on... kind of um the the the entire cultural and societal you know ah perspective that we have in this entertainment industry and why that can also too lead to folks maybe not getting the care they need, not getting the support that they need and how it needs to lead to more support for artists um to make it through their journey so that they're not alone. I know the community shows up, the community has showed up for you, but we also need to do, i think, a lot more
00:11:52
Circuspreneur Podcast
um for our fellow artists that give so much that brings so much joy and beauty to the public. I mean, all the favorite things that people are seeing have come from people like you, artists like you, and from you, literally just yourself. You've been the think tank behind those things that people get so inspired by. So you could please share.
00:12:12
Trey Knight
Yeah. Um, you know, when I, when COVID shut us down and I was remaining also very quiet, I knew industry was shut, but exactly that I didn't want to be perceived as, oh, he's stage four. He's, he's not bookable anymore.
00:12:27
Trey Knight
Like he can't, you know, which I was still functioning until the major surgery or certain things where of course you have to take different breaks.
00:12:28
Circuspreneur Podcast
Mm-hmm.
00:12:36
Trey Knight
and But of course, you know, that was already no work because we were all shut down. Right. And then on top of that, you've got insurance that's quite expensive.
00:12:48
Trey Knight
You know, I've got good yeah insurance, but it's expensive. Then you have your co-pays. Then you have your deductible. And those just keep adding up and adding up.
00:12:59
Trey Knight
Plus, you know, where we live, not just where we live our country is very expensive and uh you know so it's not sustainable it's just not sustainable i'm not i don't come from trust funds i don't have a background of loads of money uh but i've been very successful in my career and uh so we need more help and this i'm getting to the point now i mean i am so grateful that i've raised money through gofund i mean
00:13:05
Circuspreneur Podcast
Mm-hmm.
00:13:31
Circuspreneur Podcast
Okay.
00:13:31
Trey Knight
But you know, it's, it's getting to the point now I may have to go to Medi-Cal have to go to other ways because it's not sustainable.
00:13:40
Circuspreneur Podcast
Thank you.
00:13:41
Trey Knight
The pill that we're looking at, excuse me, $24,000 for pills.
00:13:52
Trey Knight
So if it's not covered, what do you do?
00:13:56
Circuspreneur Podcast
you
00:13:57
Trey Knight
Excuse me. I didn't want to.
00:14:00
Trey Knight
So we're looking at that, but sorry, there's a lot of transition happening right now too, because the arena TKN, they've had me on a 12 cycles.
00:14:13
Trey Knight
They put me on a chemo maintenance because it worked well.
00:14:16
Circuspreneur Podcast
Thank you.
00:14:17
Trey Knight
And then I started having pancreatic attacks,
00:14:22
Trey Knight
worse pain, worse than even the main tumor, multiple emergency room visits. I also have large, which is lower anterior resection syndrome because they removed the whole last part of my bowel track.
00:14:37
Circuspreneur Podcast
wow
00:14:37
Trey Knight
So if, so it's been four years that I have to do a two hour medical irrigation of my colon before I can leave the house to do anything.
00:14:47
Circuspreneur Podcast
Wow.
00:14:48
Trey Knight
That's just with Lars itself from the first major surgery. And so that of course adds complications with arena T can and flora cell because it, the joke is it's, I ran to the can instead of arena T can. Cause it,
00:15:04
Trey Knight
right now i'm still jacked up i've got the chemo pumping they put me on steroids at the they give me two steroids before which is supposed to counteract the immune system so that the chemo can work better it won't fight the chemo uh so the first couple days i'm wired i'm jacked up and then usually tonight is when the crash and all the bowel system gets all whacked out and then the complication with lars
00:15:17
Circuspreneur Podcast
Thanks.
00:15:33
Trey Knight
makes it more challenging. So anyway, they have, I have a fairly large pseudocyst, which is not cancer that has developed from the pancreatitis, which is on the tail of the pancreas, which is also creating a lot of the pain issues when this side is going through the chemo.
00:15:57
Trey Knight
So
00:15:57
Circuspreneur Podcast
um
00:15:58
Trey Knight
So I was in and out of the hospital, i'm not the hospital, emergency room five times. And then they kept me finally and they put a drain in my back to drain out the collective fluid from the abscess around it, but not the pseudocyst.
00:16:14
Trey Knight
So we're still dealing with that complication, which would require a drain through my stomach to then drain the pseudocyst. If it gets too bad, you could do surgery, but we don't, we want to prevent as much as possible that having surgery because there was a three point something centimeter tumor in my pancreas. Thank goodness that is not there right now.
00:16:37
Trey Knight
Thank goodness. Um, yes, absolutely.
00:16:38
Circuspreneur Podcast
And God can.
00:16:40
Trey Knight
like The one in the liver is still remaining at about nine millimeters. So, so the rena teacan. Oh, and then the other not fun news that let me back up a little bit. When I was having all the episodes in the emergency room and the drain, they took me off the...
00:16:59
Trey Knight
chemo because you can't do, i don't do blood. Oh my gosh.
00:17:04
Circuspreneur Podcast
hmm
00:17:04
Trey Knight
Chemo brain. I don't, I don't coagulate blood very well anymore because this other medicine that they add to chemo, it helps for, to prevent tumor growth, but also you can't have surgeries or things like that with this particular medicine because you may bleed too much.
00:17:21
Trey Knight
So anyway, that's why I waited nine months for the major hernia that the rena taken gave me They've surgery and then I went through the drain and during these four months being off chemo is when it came back.
00:17:35
Trey Knight
So it is, it was not what's up.
00:17:37
Circuspreneur Podcast
billy really, really when it came back. Hmm.
00:17:41
Trey Knight
Yeah, but it showed up in three spots in my neck, which is not good. So now I'm waiting on another opinion. I'm meeting with another oncologist and what we're
Treatment Options and Lifestyle Changes
00:17:53
Trey Knight
trying to do. There's they use stereotactic radio surgery, which is radiation, very specific targeted as well as chemotherapy treatments.
00:18:01
Trey Knight
And then they can also make some cryo ablation or, where I forget the name of where they heated up, um, extreme heat. And then there's other ways that we, they can treat the tumors that aren't
00:18:10
Circuspreneur Podcast
you
00:18:15
Trey Knight
being so affected by the arena tequin anymore. So we're looking at, because once you go through a medicine, it either knows how to get work around it or does it doesn't work as well. And once you get to the end of that line of treatment,
00:18:30
Trey Knight
you have to move to another or a combination and you're just kind of, you know, because it's, it's a beast, you know? So, um, so currently we just, I'm waiting next week. I go to see this new oncologist.
00:18:44
Trey Knight
We're setting up, uh, appointments I have on the 22nd with my brain neuro specialists that we can possibly talk to them about the radio static surgery in the neck. Cause that needs to be something else, uh, to be discussed.
00:19:00
Trey Knight
amazingly i found um i have a friend that's on the east coast and uh we were chatting and she said have you ever checked out sloan or kaiser over here and they don't have kaiser there i am with kaiser which they've been amazing so they've been fantastic um but um and their numbers of deniability are the lowest percentage out of all the insurance companies i looked that up and i was like that was recently
00:19:15
Circuspreneur Podcast
came
00:19:26
Circuspreneur Podcast
Really? and wouldn't have thought that.
00:19:29
Trey Knight
I wouldn't either, but I've never had a problem getting through the system because they're all connected within the Kaiser network.
00:19:33
Circuspreneur Podcast
Hmm.
00:19:37
Trey Knight
So the referral system and the record system seems much more efficient and easier, especially at what I have to go through with so many appointments and you know so many doctors and specialists and primary and cat palliative and they're mental.
00:19:38
Circuspreneur Podcast
Hmm.
00:19:53
Circuspreneur Podcast
you
00:19:54
Trey Knight
It's all in there. But so what was kind of amazing, um, is that Sloan is having their already on state, uh, clinical trial, but they're already at phase three. So they have already tested the toxicity, the levels. So they're opening it out and it's for my type of cancer that is K R a S positive, which is it, it mutated to,
00:20:20
Trey Knight
basically the light is always on like normal cells. They'll kind of create evolve. You know, they have kind of an on, off switch, but once they cancer cells move to a mutation to K R a S then they're more aggressive.
00:20:31
Circuspreneur Podcast
So,
00:20:35
Trey Knight
They just want to stay active, creating more tumors and problems. So this. This is focusing on metastatic stage four cancer patients with colorectal or lung cancer that, uh, that they're now integrating stereotactic, these other modalities as the trial.
00:20:55
Trey Knight
Um, so we're discussing that as well. I may be bridging over to them, or we may i already look, they are doing this study as ah an extension at Cedars.
00:21:06
Trey Knight
and LA. So I may get into their program, which would be local and home again. um I'm in Palm Springs now, but so this is a lot of stuff stirring up right now that, uh, you know, the medicine is getting better.
00:21:15
Circuspreneur Podcast
oh
00:21:22
Trey Knight
I also believe in trust and homeopathic, but, but it's combination. I would already be on a deceased if I didn't trust Western medicine.
00:21:27
Circuspreneur Podcast
the
00:21:33
Trey Knight
But I do want to share one more thing on this note is when I was first diagnosed, I went really kind of hardcore on Gerson therapy, which is G R S O N. It's the idea that you're doing ah pretty regimented juicing cycle.
00:21:47
Trey Knight
Like it's yeah.
00:21:48
Circuspreneur Podcast
Okay, I know. The juicing. Mm-hmm.
00:21:50
Trey Knight
So, which was great. And it's just getting the straight nutrients, all that kind of thing. And that's amazing property soup and things like that.
00:21:56
Circuspreneur Podcast
Yes.
00:21:58
Trey Knight
But after four years and my weight has just continued to drop, I'm 135 in this last you know bit here from 174 when I was not diagnosed yet, I started adding in more meats and proteins.
00:22:17
Trey Knight
And because I've been also kind of scared of foods because we don't know exactly You know, I certainly know we, ah myself, I'm not sure yourself, but I grew up in the seventies, which inundated with all the processed foods and the new like fast, you know, all that stuff. So I don't know if that started this cancer journey in my body or we have no idea, environmental.
00:22:38
Circuspreneur Podcast
Thank you.
00:22:40
Trey Knight
So anyway, there's been an interesting process with that, integrating more meats, chicken, sometimes a steak, which I love.
00:22:41
Circuspreneur Podcast
and jimmy
00:22:49
Trey Knight
I love meat. But anyway, it's a journey with foods too, you know, ah period with an ileostomy bag that I had to measure how much was coming out.
00:22:54
Circuspreneur Podcast
Mm-hmm.
00:23:00
Trey Knight
I had a temporary ileostomy and you can't eat seeds or skins because they can get stuck in your stoma. And, you know, it's always really, anyway, I'll go off on that part.
00:23:08
Circuspreneur Podcast
Mm-hmm.
00:23:11
Trey Knight
But I guess the main question getting back to it is that there is not enough resources. And so I, it's 829 a month right now for insurance.
00:23:19
Circuspreneur Podcast
Mm-hmm.
00:23:23
Trey Knight
Plus it's a eight to $10,000 deductible. And then if I go get these advanced scans, it's like 270 or 170. An example,
00:23:31
Circuspreneur Podcast
Thank
00:23:34
Trey Knight
I went in, I have, like I said, I blood, I don't blood clot very easily. So i had a slice on my finger. i was making a salad. Very simple, over four hours at home, it was just still bleeding out with a tourniquet, covering it, like holding it up, whatever.
00:23:53
Trey Knight
So I ran to urgent care emergency over here because I know this is a problem with the medicine I'm on. So they treated it, cleaned it, rap put something on it, like an ointment or something, sent me out over $4,000.
00:24:11
Circuspreneur Podcast
No. No.
00:24:12
Trey Knight
Yay, spam. The bill was over 4K.
00:24:13
Circuspreneur Podcast
Insane.
00:24:15
Trey Knight
I still had to pay $330. Now, out
00:24:19
Circuspreneur Podcast
oh
00:24:20
Trey Knight
I did not have to pay all that, but $330 just for this, that they bill for over 4,000.
00:24:27
Circuspreneur Podcast
insane
00:24:27
Trey Knight
And right. And this last emergency room, because to be honest, I have a stack of those that I don't, I haven't looked at because they are so astronomical and they're beyond Like they're not, they, they wave off a lot of it.
00:24:45
Circuspreneur Podcast
Mm-hmm.
00:24:46
Trey Knight
Right. But they charge so much.
00:24:47
Circuspreneur Podcast
Mm-hmm.
00:24:48
Trey Knight
Right. And so I pay, I pay attention to the deductibles, the co-pays and then that. So I have stack of those that I have no idea with the craniotomy and these surgeries, what that's all cost.
00:25:01
Trey Knight
But for example, just the emergency room right after the brain radiation recently was 21 for about four to five hours with another CT scan.
00:25:12
Trey Knight
They manage my pain and then they released me and I'm still waiting on the bill right now. It looks like they're only going to cover 17,000 out of the 21,000. And that's just this last visit.
00:25:25
Trey Knight
So it just continues to Anyway, so yes, the art our public, we need help with the people that don't, that really need these treatments to stay alive, you know, so.
00:25:30
Circuspreneur Podcast
And
00:25:40
Circuspreneur Podcast
And our American system. I mean, we've traveled, so many of us in the performing arts have traveled all over the world where there are people that live in countries where you don't have these same medical burdens, where medical ah treatments are free, um or they're in so low cost, that it's not something that would bankrupt you or that would completely upend your financial life.
00:26:04
Circuspreneur Podcast
And so it is a possibility.
00:26:05
Trey Knight
Yeah.
00:26:07
Circuspreneur Podcast
and it makes me so angry, which I think it should make everyone angry, that you are trying to, again, preserve your mental health, to take care of yourself, to deal with the fact that you can't move and shake and make money in the way that you used to and enjoy your art form in the way that you express yourself. Because You have to think about how do I pay healthcare, which for me, it should be, it's a human right,
00:26:33
Circuspreneur Podcast
Healthcare care should be something that is free and is accessible. And I think that it's a really tragedy of our system, especially because I've lived in so many different systems around the world.
00:26:45
Circuspreneur Podcast
I've seen it operate just fine, where you should be in just this very protected, safe, loving space where money is hey the last thing on your mind.
00:26:57
Trey Knight
insurance And should not have a say in our treatments with the doctor.
00:26:58
Circuspreneur Podcast
Mm-hmm.
00:27:02
Trey Knight
They should be completely out of it and stop making so much money.
00:27:03
Circuspreneur Podcast
Mm-hmm.
00:27:07
Circuspreneur Podcast
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
00:27:07
Trey Knight
And then people they need, they shouldn't even be in the question or in the equation between the doctor and the patient.
00:27:15
Circuspreneur Podcast
Mm-hmm.
00:27:16
Trey Knight
You know, our our government and insurance companies shouldn't make those decisions when these are life and death critical choices, you know, that should be discussed with the right specialist, not someone moving money, you know?
00:27:30
Circuspreneur Podcast
Yes.
00:27:30
Trey Knight
So that's frustrating because, yeah, go ahead.
00:27:30
Circuspreneur Podcast
and so
00:27:33
Trey Knight
Yeah.
00:27:34
Circuspreneur Podcast
Well, ah please continue, Trey, what you were going to say.
00:27:36
Trey Knight
Well, was just going to say that when you see the outrageous bills,
00:27:39
Circuspreneur Podcast
me
00:27:40
Trey Knight
You're like, all that money's going somewhere, obviously.
00:27:43
Circuspreneur Podcast
Right.
00:27:43
Trey Knight
And the doctors need to be paid. They definitely need to paid well. supplies need to be paid, but pharma, come on.
00:27:48
Circuspreneur Podcast
Sure.
00:27:51
Trey Knight
We need to, like I said a second ago, the one that we're looking at, 24K. So I've got to see if that's going to fall under the drug approval on my medicine list.
00:28:02
Trey Knight
Hopefully, I sure will, but hopefully we don't know yet.
00:28:02
Circuspreneur Podcast
Mm hmm.
00:28:05
Trey Knight
So It's challenge by challenge, you know, for sure. Yeah. So.
00:28:12
Circuspreneur Podcast
So, and how, Trey, are you, how are you supporting your mental health?
00:28:13
Trey Knight
they
00:28:18
Circuspreneur Podcast
How are you supporting the fact that you're not able to perform in the way that you've been performing for so many years and having that outlet out there? um for you know your creative expression, someone who has a very creative brain, which to me, it just also speaks to how you like look at your care and how you're taken care of and the questions and things that you ask. And again, it's a testament, I think, to, like you said, why you're still here and why you're doing so incredibly well under such
00:28:50
Circuspreneur Podcast
terrible and challenging circumstances. I know my words don't even really encapsulate what the experience has been like for you, but as an artist and as someone that again, makes their living and expresses themselves in such beautiful ways, I am sure that that's showing up in so many different fields of your care.
00:28:59
Trey Knight
Oh
00:29:08
Circuspreneur Podcast
I can only imagine what the doctors are experiencing with a, you know, a person like you or someone that they're caring for like you, it must be really different for them. um speaking to someone that knows so much and has such like a very you know well-rounded perspective. But how are you, i would say, coping and managing those other facets of yourselves that I don't think they're dormant. I think you're probably expressing them a lot of different ways.
00:29:32
Circuspreneur Podcast
um Because, you know, again, our lives just evolve and we never know kind of where it's going to lead us. But how are you able to find those spaces of peace and comfort and joy and that high even that many times we get from being on the stage when you know what that feels like, you know what it's like to be fed from an audience or be fed from a project.
00:29:53
Circuspreneur Podcast
And so how is your life feeding you in other ways um while not having full access to that? And then do you imagine yourself in the future having access to the so that again? and if not, what does that feel like in terms of how your journey will look in the future, whether you're able to be a full-time teacher again in that way and give in you know different capacities of all of your talents that you have because you possess so many.
00:30:21
Trey Knight
Yeah, i mean, that's ah another big question, but it's also important.
00:30:27
Trey Knight
That has been mostly very hard because, as you know, as artists and creatives, connection and connectivity and
00:30:29
Circuspreneur Podcast
Wow.
00:30:35
Trey Knight
you know, just that collaboration is so inspiring and it's one of our passions is what we do.
00:30:39
Circuspreneur Podcast
um
00:30:43
Trey Knight
So that's been, of course, very challenging. I did actually shoot the pink video on stilts with an ileostomy bag in between three minutes because this is it when they started to barely release COVID restrictions and people were still kind of quarantined and we had to be tested, go on set.
00:30:52
Circuspreneur Podcast
wow
00:31:03
Trey Knight
You had your pockets, right?
00:31:05
Circuspreneur Podcast
mm-hmm
00:31:06
Trey Knight
And so it was it was a great booking. And i was like, what's wardrobe? ah Let me add another note in here, because I was supposed to have the ileostomy reversed after three months.
00:31:18
Trey Knight
But COVID had the surgery and the ward was full of COVID. So I was delayed because I didn't think that my ileostomy reversal was crucial.
00:31:31
Trey Knight
It was it was now becoming an elective because it wasn't a cancer tumor. So they handled the main tumor, the lung resection, which I was in a curtained off area because there were no rooms available.
00:31:37
Circuspreneur Podcast
and
00:31:43
Trey Knight
So I stayed in the post-op for that one. And then they waited. There was a delay. so I had the ileostomy for six months instead of three. So I was already in the window of three to six months.
00:31:55
Trey Knight
when it was supposed to be gone. And I wasn't on any of the other treatments. So I was like, what are we, what's the ah wardrobe concept for this? Right. And they said, Oh, you guys are going to be in suit. I was like, perfect.
00:32:05
Trey Knight
Cause they won't be able to see my bag. Cause usually circus or specialty artists, you see a lot, you know, but you show the body, the human facility.
00:32:13
Circuspreneur Podcast
Yeah.
00:32:18
Trey Knight
So I was like, great. So and I sure did.
00:32:20
Circuspreneur Podcast
but
00:32:21
Trey Knight
I showed up, nobody knew. And you know,
00:32:24
Circuspreneur Podcast
You're fabulous.
00:32:25
Trey Knight
up there on my stilts having to do a high kick, kick pink through the universe. And so it was a lot fun, but, um, You know, but by, you know, hour after hour and I'm up in stilts and it was a three hour makeup, you know, where they add prosthetics, they do the whole thing.
00:32:38
Circuspreneur Podcast
Mm-hmm.
00:32:43
Trey Knight
So as we're shooting, what happens is the ileostomy bag continues to fill up a little bit, right? And I'm up on stilts.
00:32:51
Circuspreneur Podcast
Okay, go
00:32:52
Trey Knight
We can't stop production and be like, I have to get down and like empty my bag. So I just was like, okay, guys, we need I kept like, you know, discreetly, but it was a fun challenge for sure.
00:33:04
Trey Knight
And then I, you know, I told my woman that she was amazing makeup artist when she started taking all this stuff off and and I just had the regular shirt and I said, what I have right here.
00:33:06
Circuspreneur Podcast
ahead.
00:33:15
Trey Knight
And I was like, she's like, you've been here all these hours with mm-hmm mm-hmm mm-hmm. ah But it was that passion that, you know, I was like, okay, I could do this right now. But, um you know, so that certainly didn't last that long with the other complications, but I was still coaching quite a bit.
00:33:25
Circuspreneur Podcast
Yeah.
00:33:34
Trey Knight
Now that other complications that we don't want to get into on here, but, uh,
00:33:34
Circuspreneur Podcast
Mm-hmm.
00:33:41
Trey Knight
I was actually a year ago at the rink that I was teaching at. I was confronted with a demand from an ex athlete. And then her father threatened me to back off of her.
00:33:53
Trey Knight
This is why i have two 10 year old little boys about the warm up for their mini world skate of event. Right. Two kids. And as soon as I told the father, i got upset with him and I said, you know, stay away from me.
Career Setbacks and Allegations
00:34:07
Trey Knight
I'm not working with you guys anymore. You guys basically they were working with another coach for months without me knowing. And I was co-sponsoring her as an athlete.
00:34:16
Circuspreneur Podcast
Hmm.
00:34:17
Trey Knight
He was my national champion previous. And these two little kids and his brother and sister were national champs in the younger division. Anyway, it was crazy. So as soon as I told the father to stay away from me stay out of my life. And I removed myself.
00:34:33
Trey Knight
He went and grabbed another female's wrist and flipped her around aggressively, assaulted her. And then the daughter ran and pushed the shoulder off the dad as if she was going after the father.
00:34:46
Trey Knight
Now, It's on security footage. You know, safe sport. You're very clear with safe sport because of, you know, athlete in sport.
00:34:52
Circuspreneur Podcast
Yes. Yeah.
00:34:56
Trey Knight
So I have to go through that. And they are trying to get me not safe sport, but the people that set this up are trying to get me banned for life out of the sport that.
00:35:03
Circuspreneur Podcast
Oh my god.
00:35:04
Trey Knight
worldop So.
00:35:05
Circuspreneur Podcast
Oh my god.
00:35:07
Trey Knight
It went right to say sport two weeks later, because I have the security bitit footage, i have details of every step and you can see play by play how they came in and did this. They cleared me within two weeks, but now our organization still has me under investigation.
00:35:19
Circuspreneur Podcast
Wow.
00:35:22
Trey Knight
They're kind of playing both sides, it appears. But anyway, it's been over a year that I've not been able to coach because of this. Now, I'm not suspended, but because the facilities are so limited,
00:35:32
Circuspreneur Podcast
wow
00:35:37
Trey Knight
there's nowhere for to teach out of, right? Because you need huge space for this type of training. Anyway, so it's very complicated that being, ah having knowing that so many colleagues already knew this was about to take place and not one of them could open the mouth, the parents, the coaches that were involved,
00:36:01
Trey Knight
The officials that saw it happen is so disheartening. That's the part that breaks here.
00:36:06
Circuspreneur Podcast
Yeah.
00:36:09
Trey Knight
And they all know that I've been on a cancer journey at that point for five years. And I had just came out of my heart the operation surgery and back on chemo.
00:36:13
Circuspreneur Podcast
I mean.
00:36:19
Trey Knight
So it that was shocking. And you don't think that people have that kind of capacity either. So now for the most part, I've had amazing support, as you know, through online and telling my story, but this is also devastating.
00:36:35
Trey Knight
I had 15 new athletes that I was building up. So anyways, it's super frustrating. i I still have a couple of outlet that I work with out here in an outdoor facility. Um, and I've got another girl that you almost every year, the last few years, she's qualified for the world competition.
00:36:54
Trey Knight
So I still work with her out of Chicago. we do it great. It's on, you know, online, the live feeds. So I'm trying to do a little bit of work around for the inspiration, you know, and, and, uh,
00:37:04
Circuspreneur Podcast
Yes. Yes.
00:37:05
Trey Knight
you know but that's the hard part because that's our connectivity and that's that's how we flourish now real quick to jump you know before my diagnosis you know we have longevity in this um career as a performer but but that branches out to directing or choreographing or designing or all that stuff which is we love too and that's part of you know the last 20 years of my journey as well
00:37:24
Circuspreneur Podcast
yes
00:37:31
Circuspreneur Podcast
yes
00:37:31
Trey Knight
And um so, you know, still world that I started that
Future Projects and Advocacy
00:37:35
Trey Knight
that wasn't the end goal.
00:37:35
Circuspreneur Podcast
Yes.
00:37:36
Trey Knight
The goal was actually to present the concept and then get it back to get the young, fresh talent, train this new technique that I developed over the years and create the show.
00:37:49
Trey Knight
and don't want to say the name right now, but it's it's been it's in kind of a presentation form.
00:37:51
Circuspreneur Podcast
me
00:37:55
Trey Knight
And then there's In addition to that, the background, i was a lucid dreamer for many years. All right. So from 91 or 93, I think until 2000, I was doing a lot of writing and recording my lucid dreams and doing you know different kind of research about you know archetypes and history of stuff.
00:38:12
Circuspreneur Podcast
Mm-hmm.
00:38:18
Trey Knight
So and it was very fascinating. that's what i'm basing the concept of the show for st stilt world is based on this journey of one man through the mythic archetypes of of dream time the the and the manifestation of vision into this dimension like the bridgeway and using the stilts and the characters as the bridgeway from body to flesh and being able to integrate holograms as we communicate
00:38:35
Circuspreneur Podcast
Mm-hmm.
00:38:44
Circuspreneur Podcast
Thank you.
00:38:45
Trey Knight
So this was like the larger vision that I was meeting actually with CAA and got great feedback, but I wasn't quite there yet. And with the book information as well.
00:38:58
Trey Knight
So those are the bigger.
00:39:02
Trey Knight
Eric Bischoffer, Ph.D.: Long projects that I had been in development until this struck and so all that's just been also just like okay we got to sit there because. Eric As you know that's a lot of work lot of funding a lot of minds coming together.
00:39:17
Circuspreneur Podcast
And.
00:39:17
Trey Knight
Bischoffer, Ph.D.: Because we were looking at Vegas or Singapore for that kind of thing. Um, I would love Singapore, but again, i don't know right now, right now it's minute to minute doctor to doctor.
00:39:22
Circuspreneur Podcast
Mm.
00:39:30
Trey Knight
I'm in survival.
00:39:30
Circuspreneur Podcast
Mm.
00:39:31
Trey Knight
Like I just, it's daily survival.
00:39:34
Circuspreneur Podcast
a
00:39:35
Trey Knight
So, you know, up all night chemo, this anyway, nausea, pain, you know, juggling the medicines. Um, So, but that's like still like my bigger picture inspiration is to, you know, and now I'm looking at doing a, a special book on Lars.
00:39:53
Trey Knight
How do you handle Lars lower end sections or syndrome, which was for my first main surgery.
00:39:56
Circuspreneur Podcast
Okay.
00:40:01
Trey Knight
Um,
00:40:01
Circuspreneur Podcast
Okay.
00:40:02
Trey Knight
And that's where they remove basically your whole rectum. Right. So I basically have the colon to the exit. Thank goodness as a younger person that was diagnosed, I have the muscle control.
00:40:15
Trey Knight
And, um, if not, I would go to a permanent closet bag for that, but, um, Why was I going to tell you that part? Uh, oh, because, uh, shockingly, many of my doctors had never heard of Lars, right? So it was like, I would have to explain to them, well, lower interior resection syndrome and all the side effects and problems that come with that.
00:40:38
Trey Knight
Um, so I want to do like, uh, uh, my own book and I have a friend in New York.
00:40:39
Circuspreneur Podcast
Thank you.
00:40:44
Trey Knight
She's, you know, well studied on the human body and cadavers and knows the whole system that we may do look like a collaborative write-up on how to help treat lars because you know it's been an interesting journey with that too that there's not a lot of information i'm in a private group now that they let me in when i had the reversal surgery so once i had to deal with lars they let me into this group and i understand because it's very private it's personal
00:41:15
Trey Knight
Um, people go for years and can't go to work because it's called clustering. You, you don't complete going to the bathroom. It's the colon just knows how to push things forward.
00:41:26
Trey Knight
So.
00:41:26
Circuspreneur Podcast
Yes.
00:41:28
Trey Knight
there's ways that you can do an irrigation and you clear out most of your colon through basically an enema irrigating it out. And then I have freedom for the rest of the day. If I need to try to work, have appointments, if I run to the store, try to eat right now, it's like a big thing to just get out to a cafe where I'm around more people.
00:41:52
Circuspreneur Podcast
yes
00:41:52
Trey Knight
So simple, but it's like,
00:41:55
Circuspreneur Podcast
Yeah, it becomes whole thing.
00:41:58
Circuspreneur Podcast
yeah absolutely. Okay.
00:41:58
Trey Knight
Yeah.
00:42:00
Trey Knight
So anyways, uh, that was just wild. So, I mean, that's something that I think the public also needs to understand more about, which leads me to one more thing real fast.
00:42:10
Circuspreneur Podcast
you
00:42:11
Trey Knight
Uh, when I came out with being diagnosed at stage four, one, it was for sure.
00:42:12
Circuspreneur Podcast
okay
00:42:19
Trey Knight
I needed to open the weight up because holding it in was too much.
00:42:26
Trey Knight
just close personal family and but then it was it was like once I did once it it was also financial because it was like okay you can't work you got all everything's piling up your bills don't stop everything is still running and so that was part of it but then the other part was the information because my cancer could have been prevented with a colonoscopy
00:42:36
Circuspreneur Podcast
Mm-hmm.
00:42:49
Trey Knight
They go in, they find a poly cancerous or, you know, pre-cancer or benign. They just clip it out in a colonoscopy, but it was not, you weren't, they didn't start giving those until you're 50.
00:43:04
Trey Knight
So I was having my problems coming in at 47 and I was diagnosed at 48. Now the age they recommend is 45. It's just still be younger. because i was seeing the multiple doctors, like I said, misdiagnosed, and maybe I wouldn't have been stage four.
00:43:22
Trey Knight
Maybe I would have been stage three or miraculously, if it was caught early enough, they would have just clipped it out.
00:43:24
Circuspreneur Podcast
Right. Right.
00:43:29
Trey Knight
So that's why I want my post to also be informative. Sorry, my phone is going a little bananas. and I want my post to be informative and share
00:43:38
Circuspreneur Podcast
Okay.
00:43:42
Trey Knight
not just, it's not about feeling bad or you know, I'm not trying to do that. I want to inform. I want to be an advocate because people don't realize what we go through with different cancers.
00:43:49
Circuspreneur Podcast
Thank
00:43:55
Trey Knight
And, and again, like I started, it's a, we had the conversation, it's not just one thing. I mean, it's a combination. You've got to get your Western medicine. You have to trust those doctors. You have to be informed on yourself.
00:44:12
Trey Knight
Do not deny anything. Don't go in hiding and deny information. Don't oversaturate either and stay away from the dark numbers because
Mental Strength in Cancer Journey
00:44:21
Trey Knight
we're all different cancers and we are different.
00:44:21
Circuspreneur Podcast
Mm-hmm.
00:44:24
Trey Knight
Then the next component is I for sure think that my openness, my training for years, as you have done yourself, being an incredible stunt person and world champion yourself, we know what it takes to get there.
00:44:34
Circuspreneur Podcast
Yes.
00:44:39
Trey Knight
The discipline, ah fall the the get up and do it again.
00:44:43
Circuspreneur Podcast
Mm-hmm.
00:44:44
Trey Knight
You do it again, it again. And then you also have your risk side that we, as professionals and learning, When is it time to step back? When do you need to make sure that's healed properly?
00:44:58
Trey Knight
Right? So we're just with that internally, if we've been smart athletes our whole life.
00:44:58
Circuspreneur Podcast
I
00:45:04
Trey Knight
And then you I think the other
00:45:04
Circuspreneur Podcast
i
00:45:07
Trey Knight
side that gets a little, you know, leery for some people, but I think openness to creativity and vision and visualization and, you know, even training as a kid or training my athletes you know, this is a very simple little story, but I want to share it real quick.
00:45:27
Trey Knight
You know, with McCartney tour, had three characters. It was all within a quick opening show for the tour. But there are quick changes and you don't warm up as you know, and you're underdressed. So you're just kind of like boom, boom, boom. Well, the third character was on stilts. So I'm on the side throwing them on really quick.
00:45:45
Trey Knight
I'm in a big mocha jami costume, ah which I love, by the way. They were the African tribal dancers that ward off the evil of the tribe. So it was like fit with the
00:45:54
Circuspreneur Podcast
Mm.
00:45:54
Trey Knight
my dreamscape and this whole kind of healing energy. But, you know, as soon as I go on stage, you go up the little tiny stairs and I'm like tall. So I have a thing. So as I walk out middle stage, split kick, and then they reveal the contortionist who goes in a back bend and I spend her with one arm and she's got her feet to her head. Right?
00:46:16
Trey Knight
So any moment of those first two, a couple moves, are very risky. They're just frisky. And I would not worry about me so much, but I always worried about my partners. And I was like, I can never go down with her. i have to figure out a way.
00:46:31
Trey Knight
They had two spotters in costume in case because her spine could easily snap if I drop or fall. So I would have this moment of like right before I'd go on stage for my cue of almost like a panic, like anxiety shooting up.
00:46:47
Trey Knight
And you know, you already got all the adrenaline, but this was different because I'm very visual and I can visualize what the accident would be. So I would quickly imagine like the cable, my plug right here, just being like, take that out and rewire it.
00:47:02
Trey Knight
And it was such a simple, easy thing, but it was quick enough for me to just like, and I would say, this a story that doesn't need to happen and just step on the stage.
00:47:14
Trey Knight
That is when I injured my leg and got my labrum tear at the show, one show, which I remember exactly what I did it correct, but left leg wasn't turned out enough anyway, but it was quick antidote and it helped.
00:47:14
Circuspreneur Podcast
So powerful.
00:47:28
Trey Knight
So visualization, mental strength, preparedness, training for sure. All of that I think has really helped me navigate this journey with cancer because intuitively feel it, intuitively you know what's more going on than sometimes the doctors.
00:47:41
Circuspreneur Podcast
Absolutely.
00:47:48
Trey Knight
I'm not saying don't trust your doctors though. You got to trust
00:47:51
Circuspreneur Podcast
Right.
00:47:53
Trey Knight
You want to trust all the resources you can't and then hone in on your specific modalities of what you're experiencing. So.
00:48:04
Circuspreneur Podcast
Thank you, Trey.
00:48:04
Trey Knight
There's lot.
00:48:05
Circuspreneur Podcast
Thank you. It's a lot, but you were able to, you know, encapsulate this entire journey in a very short
Closing Remarks and Gratitude
00:48:13
Circuspreneur Podcast
amount of time. Thank you so much for being so vulnerable with listeners and with our community and our industry.
00:48:21
Circuspreneur Podcast
I still, again, cannot imagine what this has been like. for you, but you are so amazing. You're so bold. You're so inspiring. You're so resourceful. And i know that this podcast is going to, i think, have a lot of people moving through their life differently. um it can't not seeing you and one of us because we are...
00:48:43
Circuspreneur Podcast
all so connected in this industry. And, you know, you could i could be you, you could be me, any of these things, we could all be in a very similar position, um you know, in our lives. And you never know what different stages of your life are going to lead to within your artistic career And this is very real and you're able to communicate it with such, I think, poetic grace.
00:49:08
Circuspreneur Podcast
um And I know it's a very emotional experience ah to come on and speak about this and um to be very naked, you know, very emotionally naked.
00:49:20
Circuspreneur Podcast
um And thank you so much for being open to go into all the different intricacies um of your treatments and of your experience.
00:49:23
Trey Knight
Oh, thank you.
00:49:30
Circuspreneur Podcast
I just really honor the fact that you are willing because this is not something that you have to share and be so open about and be so vulnerable. And i just want listeners to support you in any way that they can.
00:49:42
Circuspreneur Podcast
And I will um provide the GoFundMe link.
00:49:45
Trey Knight
ah thank you
00:49:45
Circuspreneur Podcast
in the show notes of this episode. And listeners, please follow Trey on social media, follow his posts and support him in any way that you can. i know our industry is very creative and very knowledgeable.
00:50:00
Circuspreneur Podcast
um So if there is something that you can provide for Trey, please do reach out to him and offer that support because our industry and our community is phenomenal. um And so in closing this podcast, again, Trey, thank you so much for taking the time.
00:50:16
Circuspreneur Podcast
um i know that, you know, your time is incredibly precious as you go through all of your treatments and using your energy. And I know that you have to be very specific in how you coordinate your day with all of your appointments and all the ups and downs and how you feel.
00:50:30
Circuspreneur Podcast
So again, i honor you um so much and I lift you up and I'm very grateful to know you and to have known you um throughout the course of these many years and to now support you in this way as well as through this very different journey for you.
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Trey Knight
Absolutely. And thank you so much. You like, you know, I love you dearly. And it's often from afar. you know, we met you know quite a long time ago.
00:50:56
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love you too. Yes.
00:50:58
Trey Knight
big production and it's just and a pleasure to continue watching you grow and continue to push the industry because. It is a special industry and a lot of us are connected and we know so many of the same that, you know, float in and out of these amazing jobs.
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I
00:51:16
Trey Knight
So thank you for the support and reaching out and love you. So thank you. And thank you all my friends in the community that have been there.
00:51:23
Circuspreneur Podcast
love you too.
00:51:27
Trey Knight
I mean, ah really appreciate it.
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Circuspreneur Podcast
Wonderful. And I'll close out the podcast with this Circuspreneur podcast is also available on stagelink.com. S-T-A-G-E-L-Y-N-C t a g e l y n c dot c o m The groundbreaking new platform for live performing arts that provides unmatched access and connection to this vibrant world of shows and entertainment. If you're a professional in the performing arts, visit stagelink.com slash pro.
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S-T-A-G-E-L-Y-N-C-P-R-O Stagelink Pro offers industry professionals higher visibility, networking opportunities, and tools to support and enhance their careers. Until next time, everyone, i'm your host, Shanae Stiletto. Thank you so much for tuning into the podcast.
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And thank you again to Trey Knight for honoring us with his presence today. Until next time.
00:52:13
Trey Knight
Thank you.