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EP. 14 Art the Clown is Back!
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Nick and Gerald review the Terrifier franchise as a whole and speak on the newest installment.
Nick also shares his experience meeting David Howard Thorton at a horror convention!
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Introduction to Episode 14
00:00:01
Speaker
Hello and welcome to episode 14 of the Two Guys One Screen podcast. My name is Nick. And I'm Gerald.
Introduction to Terrifier Franchise
00:00:08
Speaker
And today, a review slash celebration of the Terrifier franchise, Terrifier 3 out in theaters right now. How you feeling? I feel great.
00:00:23
Speaker
um it um You know, as we talked about on our Inside episode, a movie that is likely to fulfill the promise of being one of the goriest, bloodiest movies of all time. i think it I think it delivers on that. Before we do that, no physical media. We're recording this the same day from when I got back from my traveling, so I don't have anything to share with you guys. We'll do a little...
Listener Engagement and Horror Convention
00:00:58
Speaker
Follow us on Instagram, TwoGuysOneScreenPod, send any comments, concerns, requests to TwoGuysOneScreenPod at gmail dot.com, and follow us on Letterboxd. The links will be in the description. Yeah, give us a follow on on the socials, like I said. Actually, I haven't said. Working on a clips page, on the YouTube, TikTok, hopefully November will be coming. Before we get into our Terrifier 3 review,
00:01:28
Speaker
I mentioned over a month ago now that I was going to a horror con to meet David Howard Thornton himself, photo op, all that kind of stuff. I did do that, we did talk about it, we recorded it. We're just gonna plug it in right here so we hope you listen to this, we hope you enjoy listening to this little convo we had. Again, this is pre-terrifier three, this is like a month ago we did this. So we'll see you when you come back.
00:01:57
Speaker
And I haven't told you anything about this at all, besides the phone call that I made to you when they told me to get off the phone. But yeah they sounded pissed off. Oh, wait till you hear it. So I've never been to like a comic con any any I don't I didn't know what I was expecting. But online, I saw an ad for this thing on Instagram and it was real. And I was like, all right, let me get a ticket. And then you you get it. You have to pay for a ticket to get in. And then there's a ticket for a photo op.
00:02:28
Speaker
But that's all I'm reading online. So I'm like, all right, online, I'll just buy a photo op ticket. So it's the it's the ice nine kills silver scream con is what it's called. Yes, the band, ah the band the ba like them. Yeah. ah The singer was there dressed up as Freddie Krueger. And I walk in and literally like we talked about it on the the last episode but the the people who were there was it was fucking packed with like stars like Nick Castle like we said ah Eli Roth was there David Arquette the the kid that played Sam oh you name it um Shawnee Smith Amanda from saw whoa she was there yeah yeah I didn't and see her but she was there
00:03:16
Speaker
I mean, a very, very cool turnout as far as ah actors and actresses that were there and directors like Damien Leone was there and and whatnot. So I'm walking around and the it's split basically. He's in a convention center. It's split like in a half. Half is like a massive hot topic, but it's just people selling ah you know third party horror shit. Right. Probably print their own shirts or whatever. This one guy had a whole Blu-ray booth.
00:03:43
Speaker
And I was like, yo. And I walked in, but it was no they were all comic book, like animated films like from back in the day. And they were definitely pirated. I was looking at him. Oh, you bought you, son of a bitch. And he wanted like the cheapest one was twenty five dollars. And I was like, I'm not going to fuck yourself. This is not a real distributor. ah Like i yeah I would even say he was printing the slit that goes in the front of the Blu-ray case and putting it in there himself.
00:04:09
Speaker
That's sickening. Yeah. So fuck you if you're listening or I don't know. Um, then the other side, there's like booths essentially. It's like literally a table and the, and the actors right there. So most people, and it gives me so much joy to say this, we're there for fucking David Howard Thornton. I mean, the amount of terrifier, like cosplay, just people there supporting terrify was absolutely fucking crazy. So literally he's just sitting at this table.
00:04:37
Speaker
and you could just like reach him and touch him. He's just right there. He's just right there. So I walk over and the line, so I had a, my photo op time slot was at 12. It's at 12.07. So I walk over and this lady looks at me and she goes, the line is capped off. He can't, he's not going to be able to finish off. And I go, I, I was like, huh? I was like, what time is he going to finish? She's like two, come back at like two. And I was like, she's like, he has a panel to talk. And I was like, all right.
00:05:03
Speaker
So I'm like, no, no, no, I'm not gonna go home because I paid additional money for a photo op. So I walked around, I came back and I thought this idea, I go, hey, I bought a ticket for a photo op. Are you telling me I can't do it? And she goes, nah, that's over there. And she just points and it's my direction, like further down in the convention center. I go, okay. I walk in there, this is where you heard that guy yelling. okay He's on a microphone and he's like, if you can hear my voice, get off your phone.
Insights on 'Stream' and Terrifier Series Panel
00:05:33
Speaker
And they had all these lines. So there was a line for a professional photo op with Lauren Lavera, who was the final girl in Terrifier 2. By the way, she's bad. In person too, yeah. She's bad as fuck. I saw her walking around and I was like, how is no one freaking out right now that she's walking by? Yeah. but I didn't want to be that person, but I was like, how is nobody freaking out that's that's Lauren Lavera? Sure.
00:05:58
Speaker
So you're in a line and you walk in, uh, and there's a set and the set is, it's just ah a backdrop. It's not like a whole set. It's like a wall. And the backdrop is the clown cafe from, uh, and I walked over, so I got my picture taken and they like professional, like you pay for it because it gets professionally printed. I'll show you on the, on camera, but for the listener, he's wearing the top hat and he has a little horn.
00:06:25
Speaker
oh That's amazing dude, and he was I mean so oh and by the way I said on the last episode I was gonna try to get my steelbook signed When he's at the little table and like hanging out that's when you walk all over and you'd like chat it up Oh, hey, I get an autograph that was a time. I completely missed that That sucks cuz I was like oh the professional photo up at 12. I'll get there at like 11 30 11 20 and It was already packed. I mean, he was mobbed with people. There were so many people there to see him. So not but only like, you know, I'd say like 30 people probably selected the professional photo op. Sure. um So I got the picture I told him, which I have not had a chance to shout it out in the podcast yet, and I want to do it. I told him that I watched stream, which is that new movie that Demi Leone produced. He didn't direct but produced and David Howard Thornton's in it ah stream is
00:07:20
Speaker
Fantastic. If you like a slasher with just like some good gore, not a lot of plot and dumb actors, like a Friday the 13th type, but um there's just more to me. There's just like more to it. ah Stream is great. I went and saw a stream in theaters like in August and there was like maybe six people in the theater, but shit would happen and people are going like, whoa, shit. And like they'd like, there was like, it was a wild experience, a completely wild experience. So I told them, we took the picture and I'm,
00:07:47
Speaker
Let me backtrack a little bit. When I'm queued up to go take the picture, I asked the lady, I gave her my ticket, I go, no chance he can sign this real quick, right? And she's like, nah, I asked. So I walk over, we take the picture, and I told him, I'm like, hey, I saw streaming theaters, it was great. And he was like so, I don't wanna say touched, but he was like, oh, wow, it's so cool you went and saw it, man, thanks so much. Because like, no one went and saw that movie. Right, I mean, the marketing was non-existent almost? No, there was, all of a sudden it was just coming out.
00:08:14
Speaker
the only yeah the only thing i knew The only reason I knew it was coming out was because Damien Leone was posting about it. and And David Howard Thornton was, too. I mean, you guys are probably not going to go watch it. But just so you guys know, they there's a scene where David Howard Thornton and one of his co-stars, who like plays his sister in the movie, they play tic-tac-toe on a man's stomach. They carve tic-tac-toe into his stomach. I mean, it's just fucking wild. It's fucking crazy.
00:08:41
Speaker
I need to watch this when it comes out on streaming. Yeah, ah stream. Also, our boy, the OG it Tim Curry is in the movie. Really? Yeah, like he's like the main guy. That's awesome. ah So if that gives you any more reason to go see it. Go see it. So after that,
00:09:02
Speaker
I'm hearing there's a panel. Oh, there's this panel and the autographs at each booth. They're like, oh, it's 20 bucks. Oh, it's 40 bucks. You got to pay cash. I got no cash. I didn't know. You know, all things that if I go next year, when I go next year, I'll be prepared. Sure.
00:09:20
Speaker
I go outside the convention. There's a line around the block for the goddamn ATM because nobody brought cash because nobody knew. Sure. So I'm like, fuck these people. And I find a mobile gas station um on like Google Maps nearby. I'm like, they'll have an ATM. I walked to this mobile and it's just the gas station. No convenience store. What? It's just a guy in a booth standing outside it with two pumps and that's it.
00:09:47
Speaker
So that's rare. Yeah. So I had to walk back because ah by the way, I saw. After I did the photo op, Lauren Lavera, the kid, Elliot, I think that's the actor's name who plays her brother. Uh huh. They were just they were in their boots like signing shit for people. And I was like, well, I don't have any money or else I get this signed right now. So I went to go get cash and I didn't have any cash. And I came back. I wait and land the fucking ATM. And then I hear this panel starting and it's the fucking Terrifier to cast.
00:10:16
Speaker
The panel's free to go to. So I walk okay that's nice yes i just walked over to this panel. I listened to them talk about ah the process of of making this Terrifier movies. And it's so fucking cool to hear in particular, Damien Leone and David Howard Thornton talk about making these films because Damien Leone cares so much about the quality of the film and like what he's making. So it was just it was fucking awesome.
00:10:45
Speaker
ah the best One of the best things I heard, David ah david Howard Thorne, the moderator, asked him like how he you know fell into doing these roles and ah and like how he developed like such a physical acting style. And he told the moderator in the audience, like Uh, I grew up watching Mr. Bean and and he's like, he's like, I always want to play like an evil Mr. Bean. And if you think about it, that's what he's doing. That's art. He's a silent person. He's a, he's a silly silent actor. That's also a fucking menace to society. Right. Yeah. Um, makes sense he also said, and I just want to put this out into the universe since he already said it. He wants to do a David Howard Thornton wants to do a reboot, but like do it like the comics of the mask.
00:11:32
Speaker
And I think he'd be fucking amazing for that. Of what? The mask. Oh. I think he would cook. If they actually made it like dark and like what it's supposed to be, he would cook. That would be great.
00:11:47
Speaker
um And then just the last thing I want to shout out because I know you're going to give me shit for it. ah One of Damien Leone's biggest inspirations for filmmaking. You want to take a guess? The movie I don't like.
00:12:03
Speaker
Oh, I see. right Yeah, I'm sorry. that That's a very. It's an inspiration for filmmaking, but also helped him decide that he wanted to make an art, the clown Christmas movie.
00:12:18
Speaker
So it's a Christmas movie. I don't like it. Black Christmas. Yeah. Yeah. Shouted that out and I was like, I'm going to get fucking ridiculed for not liking that film. Yeah, man, that movie is great. um Yeah, so it was, dude, listening to the panel was so fucking cool. And they were talking about the that that big scene in Terrifier 2 where a poor girl gets just fucking destroyed yeah ah when he skins her. But when he throws acid on her face, they were saying, Damien and Leona used put condoms on her face. And he was blowing in a tube to make it look like the flesh was like bubbling. That's awesome. And that's how they did it.
00:13:01
Speaker
That's awesome. Pretty fucking sick. Just like his commitment to the bit. I just I really respect that. And they're going to make more. He confirmed. Yeah, I'm not. Are you allowed to say that? He said they're like, dude, everybody was everyone was filming. Oh, everyone had their phones out. I didn't film it because I was just I was watching. I was just enjoying it. But ah I've said to you off the pod, like, I don't want.
00:13:28
Speaker
them to make a bunch of them because they're going to go down in quality. I'm on board as long as you keep David Howard Thornton and Damien Leone together. As soon as one of them's out, I'm out. Are you a little concerned that for Terrifier 3, Damien Leone said like he hired people to do the special effects and he's not doing them himself?
00:13:51
Speaker
I think hired people meaning like he was physically doing them himself. Like he was actually creating this special, like producing them. Yeah. Now he has more of a budget so he can just give it to somebody else to do. Like they can hire more people because they have a bigger budget. Because two fire ones like indie film, like he had to do everything himself. Yeah. He was saying like when he was when he was doing Terrifier 2, there was a day he was up for like 26 hours.
00:14:16
Speaker
and ah And and then he had to like he edited the part ah The did the when I go get skinned and she's just screaming and he's like I had to edit the sound for that And he's like I listened to it for so long. that I started going lightheaded yeah yeah Yeah, like he's really committed to like producing just like a horror film and he wears like the this badge of like oh This movie is too gross from like the most committed horror fans. He's like, that's the fucking point He's like it's like what I'm proud of Sure.
Terrifier 3 Review Begins
00:14:45
Speaker
ah Yeah. So it was really fucking cool. And then after that, I went back to the line because it's like two o'clock, like when the lady told me and the lines already capped off again. And I was like, fuck you. And then she's like, oh, they're going to eat lunch. They'll come back. And I had to go to work. So but if I wasn't on a time crunch, I would have stayed there and waited. And I would have got that my steel books signed from the whole fucking cast for sure. Whatever that would have taken, I would have done it. But I couldn't do it. Overall, though, a very, very cool experience. ah Something i I'll remember for a long time.
00:15:15
Speaker
Well, you'll know for next time. Yeah. I think you and I should go next year. I'm down. I mean, I you're a little more into horror than I am. And there's some actors that you probably would have saw. You'd be like, oh, shit, that's so and so. And you can literally just walk up to them and just start talking to them.
00:15:29
Speaker
No money to talk to him. No money to get something they have. Each person had like, ah you know, some someone who's like this famous is like 10 bucks a sign versus like fucking Eli Roth. Oh, you know what I mean? Which I saw Eli Roth. um Yeah. So overall, super cool experience. OK, welcome back. Yeah. Now we'll get into Terrifier 3, directed by Damien Leone.
00:15:57
Speaker
Uh, here's your cast Lauren Lavera returns as Sienna Shaw. David Howard Thornton is. Art the clown. Antonella Rose plays Gabby. Elliot Fulham plays Jonathan Shaw. Samantha Scaffidi returns again. Her third film as Victoria Hayes. Uh, Margaret and Florence plays Jessica who is Sienna's aunt. Bryce Johnson plays Greg, her uncle.
00:16:28
Speaker
Alexa Blair Robertson plays Mia, but she is bad. Yeah, how you doing? um And I think. You got Chris Jericho, Chris Irvine. Yeah, shut up Jericho. He was in the end of the second one. He returns for a little bit in this one. ah And then should I mention the cameo or should we say that for later?
00:16:57
Speaker
ah You can mention it. Tom fucking Savini plays a bystander. He's on the local news talking about a murder he witnessed. Man, I'm not even a murderer. I smiled so fucking big, dude. Dude, I texted you when it happened. Fucking Tom Savini! It was very cool to see him and he gave us probably It's a little clip, but it's such a great performance. He's like just so naturally good. Yeah. Um, love really cool to see him. Uh, and yeah, so we'll talk about overall thoughts. Terrifier three. I think we both think that it lives up to the hype as far as the kills are concerned. Oh, a hundred percent. Uh, later we're going to be ranking our favorite kills of all time throughout the entire franchise. Uh, all hallows have not included in that. Uh, I don't think any of those who make the list anyways.
00:17:54
Speaker
No, they're pretty generic. But I do enjoy the third act with art and the car chase sequence is pretty fun. um Yeah, it's great. I did have one. I mean, my theater had ah four people in it. So because I went into a 12 o'clock showing on a Sunday. I mean, there was going to be nobody there anyways. And one guy did walk out within the first 10 minutes. Can I just say, and i you probably heard this just before,
00:18:22
Speaker
David Howard Thornton is so goddamn talented as playing art. Yeah. Just his nonverbal acting skills are just amazing. I said this to my fiance last night. I said it really bothers me that you can't watch these movies because of how graphic they are ah just because you can't experience David Howard Thornton truly as art. I mean, he's art. He's just so good.
00:18:52
Speaker
And I just I would just giggle to myself in the back corner. I was just laughing every time he's on screen because he's just so charismatic Yeah, he's just And something we we didn't get a chance to talk about at least I mean we texted about it, but He has come out and said that he'd love to play Joker which I am so for do it I mean he's a little older, but that's fine. That's fine. He doesn't need to be physical I mean I I think I text you, I think the Arkham type Joker would work best on him. Oh, for sure. um And like he even said, I saw an interview like James Gunn signed me up and he did like a ah sample like laugh. I'm totally on board. Yeah, I mean, hey, get him in. He'll do all the killer clowns. Fuck it. All right, dude. Dude, he's he's great. um So the opening sequence I liked a lot with him walking around as fucking Santa Claus with the axe.
00:19:51
Speaker
I thought it was not funny, but like they kill a kid on screen, not on screen, but they showed you a dead kid. Yeah. They went there. Yeah. This was the big thing going into the movie. Like they're going to do it. They can kill a kid.
00:20:09
Speaker
Yeah, I kill a kid. But do you think anything within this first 10 minutes is walk out worthy? No, we're fucked. We're fucked as a society like you and like our brains. Oh, oh, yeah, we're gone. We're gone, right? OK, we're gone. The the kill.
00:20:30
Speaker
The dad in the bed was a cool kill. Kind of just always smushed together. You know what's crazy? Maybe this is just me being fucked up. But I love when, like if you're going to cut someone's head in half, right? You're thinking it's going to go right down the middle. yeah know I like when they take those weird ass angles. Like this one, like he kind of got cut like kind of like at his jaw, like where his, I don't know. It's it doesn't make sense unless you see it. yeah It's not perfect. Right. That's that's that's what I'm saying. That's what's great. He just wants to get the job done. He doesn't care if it looks good, whatever.
00:21:08
Speaker
I mean, I think he does have a knack for or he enjoys blood. I mean, I think he's going for the most blood possible. Oh, yeah. To the later half of the film. He's got a little kink going. um That's all right. No judge. I will say I don't know. Oh, we've said this podcast a million times. We are are the clown supporters, truthers. If you want to call the Terrifier franchise a cult following, we're in the fucking cult.
00:21:36
Speaker
um I think the beginning is a little all over the place. As far as narrative, and I know you don't watch this for narrative, but it is kind of everywhere. I felt like Terrifier 2 had more of a narrative to it than this film. You know what I mean? Yeah, this one does kind of jump all over the place a little bit.
00:22:03
Speaker
um by
00:22:07
Speaker
Like I've been watching a lot of interviews. Sure. Uh, recently with Damien Leone and David Howard Thornton a and Damien's main thing was, cause everybody's, everybody's there to see art, right? Like everybody loves art. yeah Um, but he wanted to make sure that at the beginning of this movie, he's not the funny clown that everybody likes. Like he wants to get him back to his brutality.
00:22:37
Speaker
Yeah, he's mean. He's fucking mean, dude. Yeah. ah I mean, the whole house scene is great, but then they go five years before. Yeah, with the cop and that kill was fine. Did you notice I felt like there was more than normal offscreen kills? Not that we didn't get enough of them. I just felt like there was an uptick.
00:23:01
Speaker
Yeah. um Maybe that was just because he wanted to focus more on the story the budget. I don't think that's my gripe with the movie is is the story is not there for me. Really? No, I love you. You didn't piece it together.
00:23:20
Speaker
Are you saying I didn't get it? I got it. no i mean
00:23:26
Speaker
no so The only resultd unresolved thing we didn't really get was Sienna's dad. Well, that's not even my problem, honestly, as far as the narrative is concerned. ah I feel like in Terrifier 2, your core is... ah I don't know why I can't remember his fucking name. Elliot?
00:23:50
Speaker
Is that is is that the actors name or the always name is Jonathan Jonathan and Sienna are the core that movie in their relationship. And then. We meet we meet Sienna now who is like in a institution because I mean it makes sense right um and Jonathan's kind of off in college but he's not really in the movie.
00:24:12
Speaker
And they try to focus on um this new, her niece or her cousin named Gabby as a little kid. They try to make the focus of the movie more with her and their relationship rather than the siblings, which I think I enjoyed. Looking back, I enjoyed the Jonathan Siena relationship more than her and Gabby.
00:24:39
Speaker
It's just me personally and the and and Jonathan's character feels just kind of shoved in where they can shove it in. Shove it in, shove it in. I agree with that, but at the same time, I feel like they did that on purpose because like.
00:24:58
Speaker
Cause in the movie, Jonathan's kind of trying to, like he's trying to move on with his life, right? Yes. And Sienna's still, you know, having the PTSD and everything. So I feel like removing Jonathan from the equation made Sienna more vulnerable because she doesn't have that rock to fall onto.
00:25:22
Speaker
It's fair. I guess that she's more vulnerable because there's it's only her and most people don't believe her about the I guess that what they were saying is like that girl was on the po the podcast girl. Like most people think that Sienna killed her family. Right. Like killed the mother and all that. But they do show Jonathan at some point was writing letters to her about like this demonology stuff. ah So he was invested at at some point.
00:25:51
Speaker
It just feels like like, I feel like the final boss fight while it's great at the end of the film, just Jonathan just not being there, it was just weird for me. Yeah, I see where you're coming from. I don't know. And we should also mention like, not to skip to the end of this movie, but ah they act like they killed him off screen. Like they reveal a skull and they're like, yeah, it's Jonathan.
00:26:20
Speaker
And you were saying you don't think it is him? I don't know. I don't think it's him because if a character so important to the story, you know, should deserve, that's a fucked up word, deserves to be killed on screen, like if you're going to kill him, you know? Yeah, meaningful character should have an on-screen death, I agree. Sure. So I don't really know what the plan was, but they basically like, obviously there's going to be a terrifier for oh yeah what the white male means.
00:26:47
Speaker
um But it's kind of like Sienna ah She even says like she's gonna find Gabby and It's like what about your fucking brother, man? Right. Well, she's literal. Yeah. Well, she thinks he's dead. I Get that but I mean Art the clown could fucking pull a skull from anywhere, dude.
00:27:13
Speaker
I mean right that's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. I don't think it's Jonathan right, but ah I'm saying if you're like in sienna's shoes, right oh You don't know like why are you yeah? Why you're assuming? He's dead especially after they're like that's gabby, and then it wasn't Like obviously art's gonna fuck with you. Yes cuz he's a clown um Good it's funny. Yeah, I really really enjoyed the the third act of the film and like the kills in between. But it did kind of feel like it was going. um It just it just felt aimless a little bit to me. Because like, what what do you think the deal was um after they kill? Not after before, when they go to that abandoned house and that ah Victoria, I think her name is. Yeah, Victoria yeah sits in the tub and arcos in the rocking chair. What was the point of that? It's like they go into hibernation.
00:28:10
Speaker
Yeah, but why? I don't know. and concern I don't know. I'm just, I just didn't get it. I just was like, what happened? And then what happened to a little girl from the second one? Oh, so maybe you don't get it. No, that part I don't get. The only reason I know this, right? Is because I'll send you the video afterwards, but dead meat didn't interview with Damien. Yeah.
00:28:34
Speaker
And he kind of like James from dead meat was like, let me see if I get this story, right? Like what pieced together, what was going on? And Damien said yes. So basically in terrifier one art is a human. Okay. And he's killing people. All right. And he dies at the end of. Terrifier one. Okay. You're with me.
00:29:03
Speaker
I'm with you, but i mean he never, they show him i the at the end of one to come back. Yeah. So the little pale girl yeah from two is a demon who she takes over Victoria's body. Victoria is a vessel, right? Yeah. And the little pale girl takes over Victoria's body and, uh, resurrects art at the beginning, at the end of two. Right. At the end of two. Yes. Yes. So the little pale girl is in Victoria now.
00:29:50
Speaker
Okay. So here's the problem. Yeah. Were they not all of them, not in the end of two together? They were.
00:30:02
Speaker
Yeah. Well, Victoria, I don't. That's my other thing, too. If you're saying that she's in the she's in Victoria. Yes. That OK. I didn't. Yeah, I didn't get that part because I don't think that's explicitly said in the movie. um Her character feels thrown into this movie. And kind of randomly placed Victoria. Yeah. To me. Just to me.
00:30:33
Speaker
Yeah, I took it as so whatever demon this is, right. Is manipulating art to like basically do their do their bidding. And ah makes sense. OK, I'm with that. And they need a new vessel. And that vessel is Sienna.
00:30:55
Speaker
Because remember, she's a demon needs to leave Victoria's body. They want to go over Sienna's. Yes. OK, that. Yeah, I follow that much. That much I got.
00:31:05
Speaker
I don't know. I think the... I'm happy they explored more of the lore of Art's character. I just don't know if I'm on board with it all. Yeah, so he went from a normal serial killer dude to now like a zombie. But I don't get... ah When does he... Who resurrects him at the end of one? You don't see that. No. Are we just to assume that happened?
00:31:34
Speaker
Yeah, that's pretty much what Damien said. Okay. If that's what Damien said, then Damien said, it's his movie. Right. Yeah. Uh, all right. That's fair enough. Yeah. I guess I didn't get that part of it. I did like the exorcism vibe. At the end of the movie was pretty fucking cool way. They did that shit. Right. And it did feel like I thought, I don't know if this connection is going to even make sense to you, but when they were doing that, it felt like the, uh, the Victoria art relationship was like, uh, uh,
00:32:08
Speaker
Palpatine Vader relationship. I don't know. I just felt that way when I was watching it to the bidding part. I kind of Totally get what you're saying, right? So my thing is like in Terrifier 2 like you learn that like Sienna's dad has been like drawing pictures of art and stuff and like new of his existence, right? Okay, and that's like the whole thing like how does he have like this sword and that like that sword's the only thing that can kill art. Right. ah So like you're kind of like what doesn't kill them, right?
00:32:43
Speaker
And two, it does. Oh, because you're saying they resurrect them. Yeah, because remember, she gives birth. Victoria gives birth to art of art's head. Yes, and then that head is in the three. Yeah.
00:33:03
Speaker
It's convoluted. A little bit. Okay, the sword. Back to the sword. Sorry. If the sword kills art, and if art's being controlled by Victoria, as you're saying,
00:33:18
Speaker
Is Victoria not dead or is that evil entity not dissolved by the end of three? Because they cut her head off. Victoria's head off and the blood turns into acid and like falls to the floor. And then it makes up like a portal to hell. Right. Right. Which I follow that. Yeah. Art is like fucking skewered to the wall. Right. With this sword. Uh huh. And it cuts to him sitting at a bus stop. Right.
00:33:49
Speaker
What? So he gets away, he pulls the sword out. but she's if well I guess what I'm asking is like if Victoria's, the demon inside Victoria is controlling art, and she's no longer there, how does art still have life?
00:34:05
Speaker
Is his life force just independent of Victoria's demon thing being there? Potentially. This is way too fucking convoluted for a horror movie. but yeah the are ah No, no, you're right. You know, you're right. Like.
00:34:23
Speaker
I'm just yeah, I don't know. And and the sword thing is weird. The sword thing is weird, but I'm because that was my whole thing. Like, what what the fuck is up with her dad? Like, how does he come together in this? And there's that one scene where, like, you see him and like little so like, you know, child Sienna, which table casting did not look like her at all. No. ah Her her dad and little child Sienna and little John, little John. And like, he's holding the picture, right? Right of the.
00:34:52
Speaker
The ah Amazon warrior that he drew that she dresses up as. Yeah. And like there's that weird thing where like he's they're both holding the picture at the same time. Yeah. And he starts like freaking the fuck out. And then there is that whole thing with the ah the door. OK, now where I was going to go ahead. Oh, but there's that other scene where they're together.
00:35:17
Speaker
And like the door starts glowing red in that room. Okay. And he's like, he's like, look, like you got to get out of here or whatever.
00:35:29
Speaker
I was going to ask about the connection with that with, uh, the scene where she sees that like demon looking thing, uh, like metalworking her. Oh, the fucking Cenobite looking motherfucker. Yeah. Which by the way, on the topic of Cenobite, I think ah we did a disservice to Hellraiser and we were talking about the goriest movies because that I watched Hellraiser two yesterday. There's a lot of fucking gore in that movie. Have to rewatch it.
00:35:56
Speaker
I mean, at least Hellraiser 1, for sure, the original. And Hellraiser 2 has some pretty good gore to it. I mean, it opens, and it's like, holy shit. Oh yeah, the beginning of Hellraiser 1, too, is pretty brutal. Yeah. ah Speaking of convoluted, that fucking movie's pretty convoluted. At least Hellraiser 2 is.
00:36:11
Speaker
um so and then there's that woman who like has like a it's like a gimp she like yanks on his on his neck chain on his collar i think that's the is that mother mary that was so her name on letterbox is mother So I'm guessing yes. And there's a lot of, uh, uh, religion connection. Yeah. Religion like motif going on. They show like the nativity scene. They put the, um, fuck i was crown of thorns. i yeah I was learning about this when I was in Rome and they say, they say that people, Romans use that as a form of penance to like pay for your sins. Okay. What's Sienna's sin?
00:36:53
Speaker
Well, I think in her own head, her sin is she she let everybody die. Okay. Like she I think she blames herself for her mother's death. Uh, her friend who appears like in her visions, Brooke, Brooke. Thank you. Ali. Um, anybody else die that I'm forgetting? Well, her uncle dies. He gets crucified. That was wo fucking fire. I'm sad. That was ah an onscreen kill. Right. That was amazing. the way When he, when, when art stuck see on his face into like his cut open, like I was laughing so hard. That was fucking fantastic.
00:37:29
Speaker
Um, so I think in her mind, she's, these are sins cause she let the people she cared about died. Okay. Yes. It's a lot of good versus evil. Yeah.
Terrifier 3 Plot and Future Speculations
00:37:40
Speaker
Um, but I feel like our conversation about the plot and what it all actually means, something we don't like it. We both like, like, or love this movie.
00:37:49
Speaker
right makes me don't because the the strengths are very strong yeah don't don't get it twisted that these movies are not about the plot but the core fans like the cult following wants to know more about arts character and the movie attempts to Explain it to you right and even Damien himself in interviews. that He's like I'm trying guys. He's like I'm trying oop He's like he's like he's he's like there's a grand scheme in my head. He's like I know where it's going He's like I'm just trying to piece it all together to get there I was gonna ask if you saw that clip where he's like I know how this is gonna end Yeah, but he's like I don't know if I'm gonna make a two and a half hour movie or split it into two movies, right? I yeah. Is there gonna, Terrifier 4 is already confirmed. It's already in letterboxed. Right. It's already confirmed. So is there gonna be Terrifier 4 and that's it or Terrifier 5? I guess it all depends on how he gets there. He feels. And that was my thing I said it earlier. As long as Damien Leone is attached to this franchise and David Howard Thorne's attached to the franchise, I'm good to keep watching these films. But if someone takes it over, I'm out. Oh yeah.
00:39:03
Speaker
I ain't watching any of them. No, fuck that. I mean, and no one. Go ahead. Stay independent like you are, because no big studio is going to let you do what you're doing. No. The scene in the mall. A blows up all the fucking kids. That guy is fucking what when it blew my my jaw is on the ground. Me too. Me and the guy next to me looked at each other. We were like, it it was fucking crazy, dude. I could not believe that shit.
00:39:35
Speaker
Like, how are more people not bothered by that than the opening scene? I don't know, and that's the thing. I don't know where ah people are walking out at, but I always saw online it was the first 10 minutes. Right. And the thing is, like like you wrote in your review, if you... How are you gonna just start watching Terrifier 3 without seeing the first two? Right. And then walk out. Like, you know where this movie's gonna be? If you've seen the first two, you know what you're getting into.
00:40:06
Speaker
Also, like you've must have seen the reports people are walking out that another question I wanted to ask you what do you think? Which kill in this movie? Do you think David Howard Thorpe got sick on cuz I'm sure it's out there on the internet But I was trying to figure out as I was watching the movie and I I don't really I have one idea Because he said it was like gross and at the at the panel. He's like it's a certain thing that bothers me So I can only think of one kill initially In my head, it was the bathroom, but I'm like, no, it can't be the it can't be the shower scene. No. It's the construction worker. You think or you know? I'm i'm assuming. OK. I think it's the construction worker with what Victoria is doing. Oh.
00:40:52
Speaker
um
00:40:55
Speaker
OK, so that's valid, but I just feel like if it's what, well, I guess it's look each other, don't they? They look at each other, yeah. Yeah. Fuck. um All right, that's a valid, that's a candidate for sure. Now, I don't want to get i don't want to get into that kill 100% because it, spoiler alert, might be on my list. which the The demolition one? Yeah. Oh, I'm so happy it's on yours. I thought it was going to be a wild take to have it on my list. No, I have it on mine. ah Yeah, that kills fucking great.
00:41:30
Speaker
My only other thought was the one ah with the rats at the end of the movie. Yeah, that's pretty rough. I thought maybe that one would bother him because it's like rodents. Right. That's also a spoiler on my list. I fucking my jaw was on the ground at that fucking scene.
00:41:48
Speaker
That one's not on my list, but it's in my honorable mentions. I had, dude, when that shit went down, I was like hands on my head like this, like jaw fucking just open. I could not believe what I was fucking watching. And I feel like they've done that style of kill another movie that I just can't remember the name of. Like I've seen it before. I don't know. Um, I hope it's gonna be dumb thing to say in a tariff about a Terrifier movie. Hope they treated the rats. Okay.
00:42:14
Speaker
I think they were, some of them were CGI. I think so I saw it. Yeah. Some of them for sure were. That's okay. again The tubing scene. I don't really know. Uh, that's a fucking hit or miss for me. I just hope they, you know, I feel like Damien would, you know, care, care not to, you know, animal abuse and all that stuff.
00:42:35
Speaker
Yeah, I do think the strength of this movie, as we said, are is David Howard Thornton as art, as long as he's art. I'm fucking totally on board. Art is so charismatic. The fucking scene at the bar with Santa Claus. That's great. looking So good. It was so funny. And I guess those two guys that are in the bar with him are like legends in Hollywood. Yeah. So I didn't realize. I don't know who Santa is, but the bald, the other dude. Yeah. ah The bald guy.
00:43:06
Speaker
balding guy. Yes. Um, he was in ice cream man, which is on my watch list. Cult classic right there.
00:43:19
Speaker
Uh, Daniel Roebuck, who's been in a bunch of shit.
00:43:27
Speaker
A lot of Rob Zombie movies, Halloween, Halloween II, Lords of Salem, Three from Hell. Oh boy. Devil's Rejects, Found Destination One, he was in 31.
00:43:39
Speaker
He was in Stream, I don't remember. Oh, is he the dad in Stream? Oh, I guess he was. Anyways, i David Howard Thorne said they're like legends that he looked up to, so that was kind of cool. I also really did love Sienna's or Lauren Lavera's performance. I thought it was really strong.
00:43:56
Speaker
Yeah, she she was good in the second one, but this one she was just turn it up a notch like when she tells off the fucking podcaster At the lunch table. I was like, this is very good acting for sure ah johnny's deadly He's just in it. I don't I don't really know why they they stray away from it I get what you're saying, but the vulnerability aspect and now he's trying to move on but that's still like your sibling at the end of the day and the two you went through Fucking hell, right?
00:44:23
Speaker
and she's been in and out of like the rehab, not rehab, but like a mental institution. I don't know. just I just feel like they should have kept that connection together. Either way, her i was there were certain parts of the movie where I was just blown away by her performance. I thought it was really strong. I'm excited to see, I'd like to see her do anything else not associated with Terrifier just to see what else she can do. Oh, she's definitely gonna go places. Yeah, and also. She's a bad ease is what it is Oh, yeah, she is it for her. Do you want to go into the kill list? Got anything else to say about this movie? No, I the the Christmas aspect was great. Oh Works so well so well and the marketing is great like Christmas comes early. Oh, yeah marketing is great. I
00:45:15
Speaker
are dressed as Santa. It just brings a whole other aspect to like the killer clana. Wow. Killer Santa cliche. um Because of his, you know,
00:45:29
Speaker
mannerisms is acting yeah and the the glasses i don't think will be as iconic as sunflopses they were good it was a good choice but it's hard to follow that up oh so i'm gonna get mark my words i'm gonna get an art tattoo of him wearing sunglasses
00:45:48
Speaker
Yeah, it's a it's iconic. I think more than you the other ones. But it is funny how he takes them off and gives them to that the shower scene. He boops her around the nose. you Fucking nose is all fucked up too. yeah which so i have i mean Spoiler, I have the shower kill scene in my all-time list.
00:46:09
Speaker
Do you think it was, I mean, they differentiate a lot, but do you think it's kind of derivative of the kill in one, the saw scene in one? Because you just saw in half from the generals. Yeah. Yeah, but this one's more brutal than that one. You think? Yeah. It's more on screen.
00:46:36
Speaker
That's true. I do give you that. Because I i've recently, because spoiler alert, ah that's the only kill from the first movie that's even on both um on both of our lists. Yeah, it's only worth a damn. ah So I went back and just rewatch that part this morning. um Most of it's off screen. That's true. So it's iconic for sure. Like that's the thing that like put that movie on the map.
00:47:04
Speaker
Yeah, I agree. And that movie is not that great. Maybe a hot take, but. No, I don't think it's a hot take. I think our our ratings are a hot take because most people don't like that fucking movie. I've seen a lot of a lot of people fall in letterbox where we were watching the first two to get ready for the third one. A lot of one star is a lot of one and a half stars for for Terrifier one and Terrifier two. I don't know if I'd go that low for Terrifier one. I think. Well, where are you at with Terrifier one then? Probably like a two and a half.
00:47:35
Speaker
I'm at three, I'm at three and a half. Yeah. um I don't know. I think, I think there's something, I don't want to say underappreciated, but I appreciate
Indie Vibes and Art the Clown as Icon
00:47:45
Speaker
it. I think more of like the indie low budget vibe, almost like basket case. Yeah. Where it's like, it just, it just sets it like a mood, like an eerie, an eeriness to it for whatever reason. No, I, I get what you're saying. Kind of like a, uh,
00:48:04
Speaker
Kind of like an OG Texas chainsaw vibe. Yeah. I don't know why. I just like it more. It's like grind house type, like gritty, like, sure you know, ah get yeah but I But I feel that movie as a proof of concept.
00:48:23
Speaker
Oh, I'm sorry. i I thought you cut out. Yeah. A hundred percent. Oh, because all How's Eve is not. That's Yikes. That's a Yikes kabob Jerry. That's not a great because so it also wasn't David Howard Thornton. No, it wasn't David Howard Thornton and the it's basically like two short film. It's like all short films that three short films, right? Yeah. Yeah. So the first one, the ninth circle. That's what it's called when he's in the train. Yes.
00:48:56
Speaker
That was the first ever art thing. That was initially a short by itself, too, before All Hallows' Eve. Right. And the second one only got tied into art because of like the picture. That one they made for the movie, I'm pretty sure. Right. And then the third one was the original Terrifier short film. Which is the best part of that film? Yeah, 100 percent. Because the rest is pretty ass. Pretty ass, yeah.
00:49:25
Speaker
I do like that they switched to to David Howard Thornton. It could be I thought it was David Howard Thornton's face, but it could just be. um An increase in budget for like the makeup effects, because it's not really his face, they put like a mask on his face. Oh, yeah, it's all prosthetics. Yeah, you know, I do like that switch, which is crazy, though, that he can put that much emphasis in, you know, his facial features while wearing all those prosthetics. Right.
00:49:54
Speaker
It's just it's impressive for sure I I can't say enough about his acting skills as far as not being able to speak and just You know like when he sees Santa for the first time he's like you're fucking Santa like you really get like you're Santa you're saying like Yeah, I am buddy. He's like pointing at the picture of say it on the wall he's like that's you yeah but ah Before we get into the kills real quick. I want to say if this movie does anything it is If art wasn't already on his way to being, you you know, one of the big horror icons. This is the next generation's horror icon. Yeah. Yeah. He's going to be up there. Like the big three of the past will always be iconic legends. but Like for the new. Yeah. Jason Michael Freddie. This is the new generations. Because we can I think you can agree we were good on on any kind of Michael Marley for at least 10 years.
00:50:51
Speaker
Yeah, I agree. I'm more chilling. They're making that fucking HBO series now. You heard about that, right? No, what's that? I don't even want to know. It's what's your name in it? Fucking not Jenny. Jenny Craig. yeah she for the curti Yeah, I don't think so. I hope not. No, I've seen a lot of a lot of rankings with Rob Zombie's both one and two, like as a top five Michael Meyer movie.
00:51:19
Speaker
I got to rewatch him. I've watched the first one recently. No. OK, but it's logged on letterbox. if That means anything to is terrible, which is I feel like I know that's a hot take. I hate to people give to like, i I've seen like four and a half fives. I know. Throwing around at the watch. I've never seen it. I just don't.
00:51:40
Speaker
He took it in a direction where I didn't think it needed to be taken. Fair enough. He took it into like the, you know, white trash, trailer trash way. But that's kind of established in the first one. No, the Rob Zombie. The first Halloween they made. Oh, yeah, I'm just talking about the entire Rob Zombie. Oh, OK. Fair enough. I just didn't like.
00:52:01
Speaker
I think art is more like you're saying, he's the next icon. To me, he's he's more charismatic than Jason or Michael Myers. Freddie, if you find Freddie funny, I can see how you think he's more charismatic. I personally don't find Freddie to be funny. Is he but is he charismatic? Sure. 100%.
00:52:22
Speaker
um
00:52:24
Speaker
And him versus Pennywise is like, yeah, I'm still leaning art because art does the thing that a lot of the horror like Chucky and Freddie can't do, right? Uh, he can still be the comedic.
00:52:43
Speaker
like killer. But I feel like the like Chucky and Freddie, they eventually got away from like being the serious like killer aspect and just went straight comedy or can do both. And he's still doing both at a high level. And it and those franchises have also suffered from multiple directors, no returning cast. Yeah. ah I mean, some of the the back end of the Nightmare on Elm Street franchise is fucking terrible.
00:53:12
Speaker
Yeah, like we haven't seen a nightmare in since 2010. That remake was terrible. I haven't seen a Friday the 13th since 2009. Which Leoni wants to make a Friday the 13th. I'm down, dude. I'm all for it. Yeah. All right.
00:53:29
Speaker
If you want to get into the kills, I feel like we weren't talking about them because we want to talk about them here. ah Yeah. I do think that Leoni kind of fixed. Because Terrifier 2, you can agree the end drags out a little bit too long, right? Yeah. Yeah. 100%. I mean, he definitely yeah he definitely fixed that.
00:53:50
Speaker
um I think he drags a little bit in the middle, just a little bit, not a lot, but just a little bit, ah smell up but it definitely, he definitely fixed that. And I think he recognizes it doesn't need to be a two and a half hour movie. And he didn't, in this movie, he didn't a hundred percent do all the, like all the effects. Like he, this movie had a two point some million dollar budget. Yeah. One more money in the bank. yeah But he hired like established people.
00:54:21
Speaker
But he also has his own like production company that does practical effect work. Yeah. Like he got consulted to do the stream practical effects. Yeah. Like he wasn't doing the effects, but he was hands on like, yeah this is how I want it done. And there's no dip in quality as far as practical effect work is concerned. No, not at all. You don't see a drop at all. I just noticed more off screen kills, but that's besides the point. Yeah. But I do have a one honorable ah Mentioned written down. Okay, go ahead um This isn't really for the kill itself but more so what art does after the kill Okay, I have Sienna's mom from Terrifier 2. Oh That is a fun. It's fun right cuz art blows her head off calling it fun, but yeah
00:55:14
Speaker
Art blows her face off with a shotgun. Yeah. And then he prepares this entire like meal. And he's, yeah. And he walks over to her body who's at the end of the table. Her face is just obliterated and he has mashed potatoes and he just shoved them like in her eviscerated face. And he's wearing that like low cute apron. Yeah.
00:55:44
Speaker
um All right, I'll be honest with you I had a very hard time doing this list there's a lot of kills that I like and I'm There's only probably two kills that I could
00:55:57
Speaker
Be okay with leaving where they are and this list is I think kind of shuffleable for me Because I love all these kills ah my honorable mention The first one it could easily be five but it yeah to me it just misses I have to rewatch it is the demolition man kill. I really like that kill a lot ah It's fucking gnarly. Yeah, I'll go into it because I have it on my list my actual list.
Ranking Top Kills in Terrifier Series
00:56:21
Speaker
Yeah, I But it when gets fucking nailed in the hand. Yeah, hes fucking eats his hand off. I mean, that that shit was was gross. ah That's that's my honorable mention. And my other honorable mention is ah that rat that he freezes and fucking shatters and feeds the other rats. Yeah, I thought that was great. That's not really a kill because it's a fucking CGI rat. But I did think that was very creative. But if anybody is wondering, um ah see Terrifier three, by the way,
00:56:51
Speaker
ah But art discovers liquid nitrogen in this movie. He fills a fire extinguisher with liquid nitrogen. Yeah.
00:57:03
Speaker
Should it work? I don't know. It's a fucking horror movie. Who cares? I don't know, but he loves it. He like kisses it. Like after he tested out, he like kisses the little fire extinguisher. There's a whole scene. i I mean, I don't want to spoil your list, but I don't i don't have I don't have Santa on my list. No, neither did I. He uses on this guy that puts Santa Claus in the bar. It was fun.
00:57:25
Speaker
I thought that when he does it to his face and shatters his face open, that was ah it was brutal. Look cool. And he rips his beard off and then wears it and wears it. um i That was good. um Do you want to go back and forth then? You want to give your five and I'll give mine. Sure. So sir number five from Terrifier three, I have the mall bombing.
00:57:49
Speaker
ah five I did the shock value is crazy on that that's okay, so I will say obviously this lift this list could be because you know Recency bias I will say that Okay No kill in the franchise shocked me as much as that It was it was shocking I agree I think it's just it's so over-the-top I that he just bombed the area for um a full of kids kids dressed as Santa Claus dressed as he's given out gifts and this and like they're like oh this isn't our Santa so like they start getting all the kids away but this one little kid
00:58:34
Speaker
is still there and he's like opening the box and he's like, I wonder what I got. And as soon as he opened it up, boom. Okay. so Which dude, how un like aware are the characters? This lady's child runs up to art and she's just standing on her phone and doesn't realize her child ran away. Right. You stupid fucking lady. My number five, this could be easily s switched out with the demolition man kill, to be honest.
00:59:02
Speaker
It's from Terrifier 2. It is Brooke's death in the bathroom. Ooh, the acid. Yeah. And the club with the fucking spikes on her or whatever. And he just starts bashing her chest in. And she reappears. Sienna sees her as like a ghost and she's all fucked up. Pass the dice. I'm not going to. I'm not going to lie to you, I I kind of forgot about this kill, but I watched Dead Meat actually posted a kill count for Terrifier 2 and Terrifier 1.
00:59:32
Speaker
Mm hmm. And I watched it and I was like, damn, I kind of forgot this one went hard. Love that kill, I think it's just fucking brutal and mean. And again, I could easily have switched this out with with the demolition man kill. Mm hmm. So number four, I have from Terrifier one, the hacksaw kill. I I called it the Pussy Saw kill, Pussy Saw.
00:59:59
Speaker
um It's iconic. in the series. it's It's what put them on the map. Yeah. Damien got into a lot of flack for that kill because ah they called him misogynist because he decided to saw a woman starting from her vagina all the way in half. um I mean, grow up snowflakes. This is horror. ah
01:00:27
Speaker
No one's off limits in horror. If you watch it. Hey, man. Just telling you how it is. If you watch any of the slashers, there's a good portion of it. It's women getting killed, right? Oh, fucking do it again. Hey, man. That's called a final girl for a reason. Yeah. That is crazy. The the I had the the the pussy saw kill in my top five. It's a little bit higher.
01:00:53
Speaker
um My number four and the reason why I have it at four is, like I said, is the shower kill from Terrifier three.
01:01:05
Speaker
ah This is amazing. It's an amazing scene. I love the bloody angel. He does the end. ah I thought that was fantastic. I love the way we were talking about how he boops around the fucking nose afterwards and puts the sunglasses on her. It's literally what if Alfred Hitchcock did the psycho scene?
01:01:25
Speaker
in today's horror. I don't even think Albert Hitchcock would attempt this. He wouldn't. It's like, what if Damien Leone did the psycho scene today? Right. um ah The only reason that it's lower in my rank, he loses his guy's fucking cocking balls dangling off his body. You see his testicle hanging outside his nutsack. Yeah, it was gross. um I just think it's derivative of the of the first one. Not that it's just...
01:01:55
Speaker
Basically, my third is the Pussy Saw one. So just because that was the first one to do it. And I'm just putting some respect on its name. um But I do love the shower kill sequence. It was great. ah So number three, I have the demolition guy. Yeah, from Terrifier 3. That scene was fucking wild. So I'll kind of go into it a little bit. He, like you said, art um you know, stabs a giant nail through his hand.
01:02:24
Speaker
So he's stuck, so he can't, you know, can't move or anything. And he takes a box cutter. And from like, probably like right where your eyebrows start, he starts cutting upwards. Um, meanwhile, the entire time he is doing this, Victoria is, uh, watching and she is masturbating with a shard of glass.
01:02:54
Speaker
Okay. Yeah. The sounds alone. Well, this, the blood pouring out of her vagina alone. Um, basically he pulls art, eventually pulls this entire guy's face off. Like he kind of peels it like an orange, essentially. Rips it from the scene that he cut in top of this guy's head. yeah Yeah. He peels this guy's face off and it was just,
01:03:24
Speaker
It was fucking gnarly. It was fucking gross. I enjoyed that kill a lot. It was way better than the other fucking demolition guy. Oh, yeah, for sure. um
01:03:37
Speaker
There's just something about her masturbating with a shard of glass that really bothered me. I'm trying to figure out your top two. I'm not sure they are yet. I have an idea about one of them. I know one for sure will be in there, but I'm not sure of the other one. um My number three, as I already said, was the Pussy Saw sequence. I'm going to keep calling it that.
01:03:54
Speaker
Whatever. um Like I said, I just think there's an aura, too. And it adds the low budget horror vibe. And it's just so fucking mean, because he has that other girl strapped to the chair, and he makes her watch. Yeah. it's It's so fucking terrible.
01:04:12
Speaker
um So that's my number three. And like Gerald said, it's the only kill from Terrifier 1 worth a damn. If I'm going to talk about Terrifier 1 at all after that, I do love when the cops ah find Victoria. And he was like fucking eating her face and the way her face looks. Yeah, that's fun. At the end of one. They don't show any of that. But I mean, they show her face. They don't show like art eating her face.
01:04:40
Speaker
Uh, so I do love that scene. I also just thought of as an honorable mention, the opening. When he finishes killing the coroner. Oh, and terrifier too. Yeah. That's that kills also great. He probably mentioned. Yeah. Art doesn't have an eye. So he takes the coroner's eye out and puts it where his eye supposed to be. yeah That's a, that's a great kill. Yep. Uh, so yeah, pussy sells my number three.
01:05:04
Speaker
So number two for me is the chainsaw scene from. Terrifier 3. It's just brutal. It's just, it's also so funny the events leading up to it where she's like, I want to feel his breath on me and the guy's like, you weren't trying to fuck her or trying to fuck him or what? right And he's like in the background and he's like, he's like smelling himself. the The acting there was fucking great on his part. ah Yeah. Like Nick said, it's kind of like the hack, the pussy, pussy saw a kill.
01:05:38
Speaker
Yeah, uh, but with a chainsaw with more budget more budget it's a chainsaw and he he starts sawing this guy through his ass crack Also, what kind of fucking shocked me too was when he saw he like cut his leg and he like kicked it out from under him me he like oh He snapped his fucking snaps. Yeah, that was gnarly. Oh, that was fucking gross so Um, it's a great kill. It's a great kill. Yeah
01:06:04
Speaker
um That was your number two? Yeah, what's your number two? Okay, so these two can go in either order. And I i think I put a two, because I didn't want to put recency bias into it. ah But on a rewatch, I could probably confirm my my list. um My number two I mentioned earlier is on Jess's kill with the rats.
01:06:31
Speaker
ah When they did this, I mean, I was freaking the fuck out. I just could not believe what the fuck I was. I just couldn't believe it. Art has a comedically sized mallet. I mean, it's like a it's like a Harley Quinn size mallet. It's way too fucking big. No one needs a mallet that big. Right. um They have Sienna strapped to a chair and her aunt Jessica strapped to a chair and they take It's like a PVC pipe, but it's clear. Yep. It's way too big to go in any human's mouth. But they line it up.
01:07:09
Speaker
and art hammers it into her mouth and like really hammers it in there and it like ah the special effect the fact that they thought about this is jaws gone her jaws gone and it like cuts to the inside like it makes like a like you took a cookie cutter yes exactly and like cook to make it able to fit Now, during this scene, they unveiled a skull with rats eating it. And you're led to believe it's Jonathan, which Gerald and I both don't believe it's him because it wouldn't really make any sense to kill a character like that off screen.
01:07:46
Speaker
They take the rats from this cage, one by one, send them down this tube, and they use a torch to like torch their tail to make them move forward, and right and you see them in Jessica's throat. Right. And she's like, she can't fucking move, she can't do anything, she's just stuck there with rats in her throat.
01:08:09
Speaker
ah And I believe it's Victoria who cuts her throat open and you see the rats fall out of her like she gave fucking birth out of her throat It is so disturbing. I was dude. I swear to God I was I had my hands on my head. I couldn't I was in shock. My my jaw was open. I was like what? What?
01:08:33
Speaker
Yeah. Damien blown the fuck away. You seem like a really nice guy.
01:08:41
Speaker
Or something wrong with you. yeah know That kill, I really, it really took my breath away. I was shocked. And I mean, there's something wrong with you in a good way.
01:08:53
Speaker
Yeah, I mean don't change man. Don't change. Just keep the creativity flowing. That's the thing about us. We're just fucked up humans who like seeing this shit, I guess. There's a lot of us that are like that. It's not just the two of us. Oh, I know. um That kill was was amazing. i Like I said before, I'm stuck. This one and my number one are interchangeable. I think I know what both our number ones are, but go ahead. ah Number one.
01:09:18
Speaker
to, I feel no surprise to anybody familiar with the franchise, is Terrifier 2, the bedroom scene. It has to be. It's the only right answer. Ali's death. this is a This is, I think this is art at his meanest. Oh, he's sadistic. Yeah. It's just, is is it safe to say this is your number one as well so we can talk about them? Yeah, this is my number one. Yeah.
01:09:47
Speaker
yeah
01:09:50
Speaker
This is, ah I mean, you're like, is it over yet? And it just doesn't stop. Oh, it's not over. This poor girl, man. She doesn't die right away. And also the the watching the behind the scenes of how they made that kill happen is really cool. um A lot of a lot of work, a lot of retakes of her screaming. ah What a brave, what a brave actress. honestly He said that she had to sit like three hours in makeup.
01:10:20
Speaker
Yeah, so basically that scene is set up where Art's knocking on her door, and he wants some candy for like a trick-or-treater. She's like, you're too fucking old. ah And then he's like, I'll just fucking murder you then. What? Essentially, you watch you watch him rip her arm in half.
01:10:44
Speaker
lengthwise, like from her fingers. Oh yeah. Do like the little Spock thing and rip it. And rip it. Which is like the shock value there is crazy because you don't realize art has that much strength to them. Right.
01:10:58
Speaker
Uh, and then he proceeds to Skinner, literally Skinner, like her whole body. He skins her skin, her alive. And then that's what the acid too, right? You like fucking throws. So she, he, he runs away. Right. And she is crawling for dear life. Right. She is. She's fucked up. No, she shouldn't be alive. She has no skin. No skin. Right. I think her brain's exposed or something like that. Close to it.
01:11:27
Speaker
ah So art runs away. She's crawling towards the door. Oh What's this art comes back with bleach and salt? Yeah, it was fucking horrid proceeds to pour the bleach all over her and rub the salt literally into the wounds And she's just like screaming bloody murder it's fucking horrible. Yeah horrid. I think it's yeah and then Arguably the icing on the cake when the mom comes home And she's like mom. Oh Yeah, that part ah when she's when the mom walks into the bedroom and she's on the bed. Yeah, that's an animatronic. Oh Yeah, yeah. Yeah, um you guys and guys didn't know that it's an animatronic. Oh, yeah, but it looks good. Oh Yeah, no no beef with that. That is also my my number one. That's an amazing kill.
01:12:20
Speaker
I feel like that's probably everyone's number one. Everybody was like, are they going to top it and terrify or three? but That's going to be the, don't you think that's going to be the problem with this franchise now is that he's going to continue to have to up the Annie and he's not going to be able to. How can you it's at some point he's not going to be able to write. So for me, I, you're, I'm a lot higher on than you are. I think the rat thing at the end of three, uh,
01:12:47
Speaker
really blew me away a lot more than it did to you. But I feel like if I turned on the animatronic kill that's skinned, Allie getting skinned, I'd be like, oh yeah, this is by far away the fucking most gruesome kill we've seen. Yeah.
01:13:01
Speaker
um Just to review, and you can read yours too, Gerald, my number five is ah Brooke getting murdered in the bathroom of Terrifier 2. ah The shower kill scene in Terrifier 3 is my fourth. Number three is the pussy saw scene from Terrifier 1. Number two is the rats in Terrifier 3. And number one, our shared number one is the alley getting skinned in Terrifier 2.
01:13:33
Speaker
Yep. My number five is the mall bombing. Sorry. so fun crazy dude dude ah Number four is the hacksaw kill from Terrifier one. Number three is the demolition guy getting his face ripped off while Victoria masturbates from Terrifier three. Number two is the shower scene from Terrifier three. And number one is the bedroom scene with Ali getting skinned alive.
01:14:01
Speaker
We'll move to ranking the franchise and I'll be honest. I'm still undecided We both have all holiday was the worst Do not watch it Yeah, I mean the only reason why I would suggest it is if you want to watch the third act It's like see the origins of art the clown if you're like interested in that right can But the majority movies not worth your time and then Terrifier won't be after that. I think we both agree on that. Yes. And then, I don't know, two and three, I'm i'm conflicted. i need Maybe I'll watch two after this recording and see how I feel. You gonna sit through that?
Overall Thoughts on Terrifier Series
01:14:46
Speaker
I don't know. I just don't know. Where where are you at for the last two?
01:14:56
Speaker
I like a lot about Terrifier 2. My big problem with that movie, though, is the mother.
01:15:08
Speaker
I can't stand that bitch. Yeah, but they even mention it in Terrifier 3. On how she's a fucking lunatic. Yeah, fucking psychotic bitch. Yeah, I mean.
01:15:24
Speaker
I think she plays the role well, though, for what it is. Yeah. um But as of right now, maybe recency bias. I don't know. But as of right now, I'm going to put number one as Terrifier 3. That's valid. I think that what your star rating is actually what I'm more curious about.
01:15:48
Speaker
um
01:15:55
Speaker
Is this a live decision on the podcast? Yeah. Mine's going to be two, so it's... So let me go see what I rate a Terrifier 2. I know I have two at a three and a half. So do I. But I think I also have one at a three and a half, which might be pretty hot. That's way too high.
01:16:20
Speaker
Yep, I still have it. Three and a half. That's high.
01:16:28
Speaker
Since they're so close, I'll give Terrifier 3 a 4 star for right now. Okay. A rewatch could definitely, you know, increase, decrease, you know, subject to change, but right now I'm going to give it a 4 star. I think I think both movies suffer from a little bit of slowness, to be fair. I think the end of Terrifier 2, as I already said, is drawing out a little bit too long for my liking, my personal taste. I think after the opening house kill sequence, Terrifier 3 is a little lost in the sauce.
01:17:11
Speaker
And they kind of move away from that narrative of like Sienna and her brother, which I don't think it's not executed well. It's just not what I was hoping to see. Right. ah there There might be answers to that in Terrifier 4. Terrifier 4 can make 3 look even better than it already is. Exactly. 100%. I totally acknowledge that.
01:17:32
Speaker
um You know that's inverse of how Joker two shit on Joker one Sure, but that would be looking at hindsight which we can't do yet. So correct So I think I'm going to give the edge to terrify or two all that being said But just by like the tiniest bit like I said, they're right. They're neck and neck for me I'll probably give it a three and a half Um, but like I said, I mean, Oh, I haven't said it's on a podcast, but I've told you off off pod.
01:18:04
Speaker
Most slasher movies for me, but so I mean, the exception, I think, is Scream. Scream's a masterpiece, though. Yeah. Really don't get beyond a three and a half from me. The ceiling is kind of a three and a half, I think. If you consider Nightmare on Elm Street the first one a slasher. It is. OK, then that's another one that I gave out a five out of five. That's um that's also a masterpiece to me.
01:18:30
Speaker
um but most slashers don't get past that. But on a rewatch, like like I said, this could come out on my fucking, hopefully a 4K steel book and I could watch it again and fucking love it, like more than I did this time. And more could click now knowing like what you shared about the interview that Damien had and all that kind of stuff could go up. I could watch that rat kill again or the bombing at the mall and be like, yeah, this fucking rips. I think this is top tier.
01:18:59
Speaker
as we've come to expect with Damien Leone's crew, top tier practical effect work. ah It's always be fucking bloody. Oh, yeah. Do you think ratings aside, does this pass inside as far as gore? I don't think it does. No, no, because The way people die is different than Terrifier 2, but I feel like the actual level of gore is probably on the same level, you would say, right? I think the level of gore in Terrifier 3, if we're just comparing Terrifier 3, is more, but it's, like we said in the Inside episode, it's so over the top. That's the thing, yeah. Where Inside feels so real. Right. That it makes it even more, like, gross.
01:19:43
Speaker
Right. That's why I don't understand how people can walk out because you can clearly tell. Did you hear it got banned in France? So it didn't get banned banned. Yeah, right. There's an asterisk, but there's an asterisk. Yeah. So basically, in you know, in the States, you can see any movie in the theaters as long as you have an adult. Right. um But in France, they straight up said anyone under the age of 18 with or without an adult is not permitted.
01:20:14
Speaker
Oh wow. Yeah. um And only the last time they did that for a movie was Saw 3, which I said on the inside episode is fucking gnarly. Yeah, you did. Saw 3 is gross. Shout out France for knowing.
01:20:31
Speaker
ah Yeah. Art the Clown is my personal favorite slasher villain. I think we shared that on the um Friday the 13th episode. But this outing for him solidifies even more. He's the most charismatic. He's funny. He's great. And I am curious to see what else I do with his origin, because I don't know i don't know if I'm fully in on it yet.
01:21:01
Speaker
But I hope for we'll shed some more light on it. Mm hmm. And Damian, he obviously has we're probably not going to get a terrifier for like twenty, twenty six, twenty, twenty seven. Most likely, so he has time to write the script and figure out what he wants to do with our character. But yeah, fucking great movie. I had a great time. The only one in the fucking theater laughing at shit. I felt like a psychopath.
01:21:27
Speaker
um Hopefully it's in theaters in um Not this week, but next week because I plan to go see it with mark again Maybe we could go see it all three of us together when I come down. Yeah, probably be better idea, huh? Yeah, well Let's talk about it off the pod. Okay. Yeah, sounds good yeah We don't need to put that here you can cut that um No, but
01:21:58
Speaker
I'd also like to go give it a rewatch. ah That is our our Terrifier episode. I'm not going to label this episode Terrifier 3. It's just going to be Terrifier franchise because we kind of talked about all of them. um Friday, y'all are getting a review on Joker 2.
01:22:18
Speaker
fully i do sorry Sorry, guys. we If we knew it was going to be as bad as it was, I probably would have changed the movie. um i say And then a week from today, you are getting Trick or Treat, which ah Gerald and I had a pretty heated conversation over, and it's not even over
Upcoming Podcast Reviews and Outro
01:22:43
Speaker
the movie. But I'm really excited for you guys to hear that. I cannot wait to clip that up and and post it.
01:22:49
Speaker
um And we're almost all the way through horror month. This is our first annual horror month. I can't wait to do this again next year and see what what y'all vote on and what Gerald and I decide to actually review as far as horror movies. Maybe next year we'll have a I don't know. We're not going to have Terrifier 4, but some who knows some new release, some new release worth talking about. Right. um But we can do a little plug it in, plug it in.
01:23:22
Speaker
So follow us on Instagram, TwoGuysOneScreenPod. Send any comments, concerns, requests to TwoGuysOneScreenPod at gmail dot.com and follow us on Letterbox. Links are in the description. Then look out for some more clips and ah we will see you guys Friday. Toodles. Fuck you, Mark.