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Open Mic 24: Sassy Sledgehammer
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On this episode of Open Mic, prepare to journey to 1428 Elm Street, the iconic haunt of Freddy Krueger himself, as The MVP sits down with the resident "Nancy Thompson," Diandra Lazor, affectionately known as "Sassy Sledgehammer." We unlock the secrets of being a true "Fred Head" and dive deep into the world of Elm Street.
We discuss Diandra's passion and insights into the legacy of the Freddy Krueger saga. From its inception to its place in horror history, we deep dive into the allure of Nightmare on Elm Street franchise.
We then talk about Diandra's journey in the realm of acting and her transformative role as Nancy in the short film "Don't Fall Asleep." as well as her current short film "5 Star".
Listen now and remember, every town has an Elm Street. Sweet dreams...
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Transcript
Introduction and YouTube Expansion
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Who the hell told you tonight was open mic night
00:00:36
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Welcome, everyone, to another episode of Open Mic with the MVP Marco. I am, of course, your host, the MVP Marco. Who else would it be? She hasn't gotten rid of me yet, so I'm still here, still doing the show for the time being. No, I'm joking. I think I should be cool, but we're well deep into this series. I have a lot of
00:00:57
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A lot of interviews actually on YouTube right now. If you go to the MVP Marco actually started uploading a lot of the video versions of the interviews that I do. So you have the audio version on obviously Spotify, Apple podcasts, all that stuff. But now you can see I'm starting to upload all the videos. So definitely check out those videos if you haven't yet. So MVP Marco on YouTube, definitely check those out.
Pod Foundation and Wrestling Shows
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other than that no sponsors on the show obviously but the only sponsor i really do appreciate is the pod foundation uh content creators all that type of stuff it's um the chick foley show it is the extra cooler show it is a turnbuckle tavern i'm coming down the aisle with j bone all those shows together create the pod foundation and it's just literally we run the gamut of all the uh
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everything professional wrestling pretty much and a little bit more obviously i'm not really professional wrestling oriented with this show uh but there are there is content out there um one of the other shows that um i definitely want you to check out is broken vcr uh that's on the turnbuckle tavern fee they they uh cover a lot of the like obscure films
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and things like that. So they review like an old film and then they'll go on and talk as kind of like a panel. I really enjoy that show if you're not looking for the obviously professional wrestling content that we provide. So you have my show, you have that show. There's a host of other shows. Definitely check those out.
Guest Introduction: Deandra and Nightmare on Elm Street
00:02:25
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But now, let's get to my next guest. So this person I've been trying to get on the show for a while, just scrolling through TikTok, came upon a video of this woman giving some, I think it was like the top three short films incorporated with Nightmare on Elm Street.
00:02:47
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So became very intrigued, obviously, went down a rabbit hole of short films and interviews and the documentary. We'll get into that definitely. I mean, I'm kind of like
00:03:04
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kind of like fanboying out a little bit because I've been following for the past few months. And I, like I said, it's kind of like an overload of information. I'm actually getting to talk to this person and actually pick their brains on, you know, not, not literally pick their brains. Cause obviously this is horror oriented, but nonetheless, let's bring her on. Deandra, how are you? That was such a wonderful intro. I'm awesome. How are you doing? I'm fine. Thank you.
00:03:31
Speaker
yeah um like i said it's uh it's been a it's been a long time i think you you're the one you're the one of those sought after interviews for me anyway just because of the you know obviously the nostalgia fact with nightmare announce street and then finding out there was an actual like community of fans and i think that's what intrigued me the most was
00:03:52
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was Fred heads. Like I've heard of, you know, like, I remember back like way the like early 2000s, you had the bronies. The guys are like, you know, fans of My Little Pony, they had a whole documentary on and stuff like that. It was very, like, it was very interesting because I didn't know there was that type of, you know,
00:04:10
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Collective fandom for that out there. But now with this I didn't I have no clue because you see like, you know Friday the 13th Halloween all these other horror
Challenges in Reviving the Nightmare Franchise
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franchises. They're pretty you know prevalent nowadays, but you don't really hear too much about Nightmare on Elm Street and that's kind of like a
00:04:27
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That makes me sad because I was like, you know, obviously a lot of us was our first, you know, foray into horror in the eighties and stuff like that. And like before we get into it, like, what is it? What are your thoughts on that? Like, why do you think that like the Nightmare on the Street franchise isn't as, you know, prevalent as like, say, like Halloween and, you know, Friday the 13th and all those other ones out there?
00:04:51
Speaker
I had a small conversation with a friend who's really big into nostalgia and he likes a lot of different horror franchises. And he was telling me how much he loved Nightmare, but that it's falling away because there's just not been any new installments. There hasn't been a new game. There hasn't been a new movie since 2010.
00:05:11
Speaker
We get new merch, but in very small increments. And it's usually Jackie Earl Haley because Robert owns his own likeness rights and New Line slash Warner Brothers doesn't. So it's very hard to license his likeness for certain things. And so and people don't want to buy that as much. They want Robert, even though I actually have come around to Jackie over the years, people still want Robert. But I think it's just the fact that
00:05:41
Speaker
because we haven't had Nightmare because Fridays had the games. They've had, you know, the talks of the new prequel. And then, of course, there's Halloween. I mean, it's just been doing all kinds of things. Yeah, it's been a Dead by Daylight, but nothing of the sort. There's been a couple small podcasts like around Freddy's Nightmares, but I know there's like the Friday the 13th Network or people who do focus on Scream, like Scream with Ryan C. Showers.
00:06:07
Speaker
I had a podcast a while ago called Elm Street Radio that was about the nightmare franchise. I can't remember why. Oh, it was because we did Fred heads. And so we were just like, we're too busy. We can't keep up with this podcast. So we've been thinking about bringing it back because everybody else is still going. But like that little bit of nightmare, just that little community that almost that we just like talk to each other. We don't talk as much about it to other people, which is why I try so hard to keep it alive because
00:06:35
Speaker
I know that people are forgetting about it. People aren't talking about it, this, that, the other things. Yeah. As I was going along, like, you know, watching, you know, all the different, you know, like the Fred heads documentary, and then like, you know, watching the short films and all the, you know, the fan made films and stuff like that, obviously, the one you were, you know, starting, like the story is like,
00:06:59
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it's it's it's such a I don't I don't want to use the words amazing but it is an amazing story like just like the the background characters I mean like it's it's kind of weird saying amazing to like our franchise but like just the story itself like you know just watching like the the short films of the series Kruger and see like you'll see the background of Freddy Kruger and you know how all that like came about like that stuff that that's fascinating to me and like you you would think like
00:07:28
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they would put something out on the big screen, not a big screen, but maybe on a TV series, like Netflix or something like that. Has there been any talks of any pushes for that? Obviously, you're heavy in the community, but is that a thought? Just going straight to a streaming service, like a shutter, even maybe? Maybe they could pick something up like that? Has that ever been discussed?
00:07:53
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There's been a lot of people over the years. Mike Flanagan said he wanted to do it. Elijah Wood did a pitch. Blumhouse, of course, has tried to go after it. And people still want to. There have been some problems because people don't know who to send the script to.
00:08:10
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But the Craven estate owns the domestic rights to a nightmare in Elm Street So they are technically in charge of receiving the scripts The only problem that I've heard through the grapevine is that the people running the Craven estate which would be West Craven's family wants to
00:08:25
Speaker
a lot of money, whomever is the pinpoint person, I believe I know who it is, I don't want to point me fingers, is just asking for like a ridiculous amount of money and everybody's like, why are you asking for that much for these rights? That's going to be really hard to get a studio to put that much forward and then invest in making the movie.
00:08:47
Speaker
So that is the thing that's honestly holding it back is that the price of the Elm Street rights are just ridiculously high and studios are just trying to figure out what they could do budget wise and how much they're willing to drop for it. That is the only reason that it's holding on.
00:09:05
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And I'm hoping that there could be some kind of leeway like, all right, I'll accept this. And then we'll get a new nightmare because everybody wants it. People want to play Freddie. People are always talking about how they want to play Freddie or do a nightmare movie. But that is the only thing is that the Craven estate holds the rights. And they're just asking for so much money that there hasn't been any way to go forward. Yeah.
00:09:28
Speaker
That's kind of like with a lot of like, you know Licensing it a lot of like well, like we talked a little bit before the show like I was told you about The Queen G and you know the Ninja Turtles 7, you know the obviously the the creators are you know, they're still around But they license out like the likenesses like different, you know entities and different companies and they can do like pretty much whatever they want with each one so I mean
00:09:55
Speaker
Wonder why they wouldn't do something like that. It's like just license out the franchise and just everyone give their own like kind of like make it like a Multiverse if you want to say like kind of like how marble DC does where you have like different versions of Freddie It doesn't have to be the same, you know exact one like someone might have a different idea Not the remake that they did that's not gonna go that down that route but like, you know just like maybe something did like something different a new twist on it like a modern version of it like
00:10:23
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Kind of like how they did with Scream. They brought Scream back, but it kept that scene. It kept Wes Craven's formula to it. It didn't change it too much, but it was new enough where younger people can catch on to it and things like that. You've got to wonder why they wouldn't consider licensing that out because it's
00:10:45
Speaker
Definitely worth money. Like you said, if it costs a lot to do this or actually to get it done, that means that there's money in it somehow. I feel like if the person in charge cared more about having the story told and cared more about getting it into the hands of fans rather than how much money they can get from it, we would absolutely have something in a heartbeat.
00:11:07
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But they I think they care more about how much money they're going to get out of it. Yeah, that's that is that is going to
Creative Ideas for Freddy Krueger's Character
00:11:15
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be so good. Oh, yeah. Like, do you think like do you think because, you know, he's not he's not like a straight up like slasher figure. He's more like a cerebral.
00:11:26
Speaker
type of like you know uh a character like do you think that's one of the reasons why it's not like it's not that it's going to be hard it would be hard to do or hard to write for it but like it's not straight up like you know Halloween it's Michael Myers he just goes around and killing everyone
00:11:41
Speaker
Obviously there's some story to it, but like Freddie plays her dreams and there's like, there's a lot more, like I said, cerebral type of play with it. Like you got to, you got to think of that aspect of it. You're not only writing a story, you know, like a slasher story or a horror story. Now you're writing, you got to do the dream sequences and you got to be as, you know, creative in that area as you would in a regular story. And you got to make it so like the viewers not
00:12:07
Speaker
knowing if they're watching the person dream or the person awake. Do you think that's something that's been maybe kind of lost in that aspect of it? I don't know. Because what I've heard, I think one of the biggest, I think the money is definitely, it's the definite reason. Cerebral could be a part of it.
00:12:33
Speaker
because there are so many avenues that you could take nightmare. Obviously you don't want to remake a movie. There have been talks that there are scripts going around where, for example, they're taking on a version of nightmare two or nightmare three. So they're not looking to redo it, but then they kind of want to add in some sort of twist with it. I honestly think in today's day and age with how smart horror has gotten to the point where like some of the A24 movies I've watched, I've been like,
00:13:03
Speaker
I get that this is symbolic, but it's just like way out there for me. I just, I'm sitting there like, I kind of want this movie to be over. So I don't think they'd do that with nightmares. But I feel like it would be perfect because you could have that mixture of fun and terror with the smart like storytelling because there is so much there with the dreams and the ideas of the underbelly of suburbia and the
00:13:32
Speaker
of the parents I really honestly want in a Nightmare on Elm Street prequel so bad that it's like a mixture of, you know, Mindhunter and True Detective. Like True Detective season three, where it's like, you know, kids are just, it focuses on the police force. You don't see much of Freddie, like maybe you'll get some of him, but it really is like that set in the 70s.
00:13:59
Speaker
like time period piece that is you know solving these crimes but it also has a lot of the horror so you have the true crime which appeals to broader audiences and then you have the horror which appeals to the horror people you put that together you can make a really good story that i think people will just get sucked into immediately and i would love to call it springwood then i saw that they were planning on doing the the friday the 13th prequel and calling it camp crystal lake and i was like i knew the title
00:14:30
Speaker
oh my god jeez that's so good yeah like i said like you just mentioned like just you know just a multiverse like you do like like you said that's that's perfect like uh like it could be like a crime drama focused on that doesn't it like you said doesn't have the feature of freddy you know the story but now you're following like you said the detectives in the police force that's you know you know trying to solve these crimes as they're happening and stuff like that and maybe coming like you said maybe coming across you know
00:14:49
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I knew it.
00:14:59
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Freddie at some point in the series and you'll get the nod, obviously as a viewer, you'll know who it is essentially. But yeah, I think that'd be a great idea. I had a few thoughts of who could do their own version.
00:15:15
Speaker
like a Rob Zombie, he might be good at it, I think, especially like how crazy House of 1000 Corpses was. And obviously he said that wasn't his favorite movie out of, you know, that was his first film, but like just how like the imagery in that, I think he would do like an amazing job with like, you know, the cerebral side of Freddy Krueger. Oh yeah. And he'd cast like one of his reoccurring actors who's my number one choice to play Freddy, like an older Freddy is Richard Brake.
00:15:43
Speaker
Oh, yeah. Yeah. I feel like he would be a fantastic Freddie. And of course, if Rob Zombie does it, like I went up to Richard break and was like, I think you should play Freddie. And he's like, I've heard that. And then I have people that I know from online who work for like
00:15:59
Speaker
major bands or like film companies and they're like, yeah, I've been hearing rumblings about, you know, maybe they're being a nightmare and Richard Bright coming up as Freddie. And I'm like, please, please, please, please. That would just be fantastic. But like, yeah, a younger Freddie could be like Jamie Campbell Bauer or something like. Yeah, he'd be. He'd actually. It should be awesome because, yeah, but the I actually just watched 31. It's a movie. Yes. He was
00:16:26
Speaker
Scary now he's a he says creepy I mean everyone was creepy and that's like and that's that's why Rob zombie always pops up my head even with that movie The Lords of Salem like the imagery that if you see that like that that brings kind of like that Like you know the dream sequences that he did they're kind of out there if you were really following the movie, but something like that there Terrifier the creators of Terrifier and all hell's Eve like he that you know that what's his name? I'm forgetting
00:16:56
Speaker
Oh, art. Art the clown, yes. Like he shows up in dreams. He's kind of like that Freddie type of character, obviously a lot more gory on that side. But yeah, the creators of that. In the VHS series, that's what rounded out. So all the creators on the, if you ever watched the VHS movies, it's all different directors and they're all short films. But man, I think they would like really, you know,
00:17:24
Speaker
If they did just like shorts, like maybe like a Freddie movie, kind of like in the vein of VHS, but just short stories of like, you know, different characters or something like that.
00:17:33
Speaker
I wonder if they could do like they did with Freddie's nightmares and have like one Freddie maybe be like the narrator. And then everything is like told through his eyes and it's just somebody else's interpretation like a different Freddie, but it's a story. And then there's like the main Freddie who looks back on that story and he talks about it. Who knows whatever it could be. That would be pretty sweet. I would love to have it be like done really well like Amazon or HBO.
00:18:00
Speaker
somebody take the budget, take the quality and just tear it up. And I mean, yeah, make it scary, make it gory, but also make it that like detective. So I'm telling you, I just see it. I'll never put it down. And I'm begging, I'm begging New Line to put me in the back.
Deandra's Acting Journey and Horror Insights
00:18:18
Speaker
I'll just serve coffee randomly. I'll be like the same person at the diner.
00:18:22
Speaker
You know your coffee mr. Thompson Okay You you definitely have to uh, you definitely have to be dancy at some point and like if they do redo it They have to not they have to give you the knot at least because you're kind of you kind of like took the uh You kind of took the helm of uh of the dancy character, especially in the uh, the uh, never sleep again
00:18:44
Speaker
uh movie i would say because it's it is kind of long so we'll go it is short for movie yeah it's uh that was very that was very interesting how was the how was the process of you know actually getting into that character and actually doing that like
00:19:00
Speaker
It was scary for me because Nancy is the whole reason I got into horror. She's the reason I got into nightmares. She is, you know, like at the center of everything. I always ask myself when I'm faced with a challenge, what would Nancy do? And everybody's known that. So to have to like put that out there, I'm like, are people going to think, Oh, she doesn't actually know Nancy. She's nothing like Nancy because I wanted it to be my interpretation with that.
00:19:28
Speaker
sprinkling of Heather because Heather narrated it so I wanted to have kind of that that mix of the two and I'm really glad that people have liked it and people have enjoyed it and people have said that I did a really good job playing because I was like oh my gosh because we wanted to make it like you know low budget 80s kind of quality and
00:19:51
Speaker
And so I'm like, I don't know if everybody's gonna understand that there's like that little bit of 80s acting that we're trying to bring in. I really hope that they do. Because honestly, in the 80s, it's not the best. Somebody looked at me and they were like, they were like, yeah, the acting in the nightmare movies, you know, they just have such great acting. And I was like, did you really watch those movies? Did you really watch those movies? But I,
00:20:20
Speaker
I loved putting that together and getting Heather involved was really, really special because one of the biggest regrets of I think my life, but technically of nightmare history that I never got a chance to be a part of was, you know, not having in the films that she was in the beautiful dream living on, you just kind of have to read the other materials of before or the comics, which are
00:20:44
Speaker
canon because they were commissioned by New Line. So they are officially canon. So Nancy is in the beautiful dream, but you don't know that unless you know those other things. And even the light at the end, you might be like, oh, that's Freddie. But the way that I think everything pans out, it's Nancy. And I just wanted to have that closing chapter there.
00:21:08
Speaker
to have Heather talk about that and I was like okay now we finally got Heather as Nancy talking about living on in the beautiful dream I feel like there's a part of me that's kind of closed that loop we got her to do that that's very exciting but it was extremely nerve-wracking but at the same time it was like the most fun project because we've all had this idea of what we wanted and we just love the character so much and the source material that
00:21:32
Speaker
you just put a lot of thought and heart into it. And I'm glad that people, people are like, we wish we had more Freddie, but like, yeah, it's Nancy's story. Like, if you think about the first movie, Freddie's only in it for like nine minutes. You know, it's Nancy's story. And that's kind of what we wanted. We wanted it to be a drama about horror in the same way that New Nightmare is a drama about horror.
00:21:53
Speaker
Our new nightmare. Yeah, it's yeah, I actually watched the first Nightmare on Elm Street because I you know, during October, I tried to like, you know, watch as many horror movies I can. I think everyone pretty much does that. And if you go on Max, HBO Max, they have all the they pretty much have all the movies there. So I watched the first one and you are right. It definitely helped, you know, watching that and then watching, you know, your short film and then seeing the correlation between
00:22:23
Speaker
Like you said, the acting in it, which isn't the greatest acting, but like even like the special effects, like, you know, like the stuff you see nowadays, obviously a lot more advanced, but like even seeing like, you know, the, you know, the dream sequence where she's walking up the stairs and you can see like where they cut out, like the, like that type of stuff. I don't know. I love that though.
00:22:45
Speaker
I know. That's the best part about it. And I'm like a movie go. So I always like I always go back and watch like things like that, like where it edits or, you know, if there's like a mic in the scene, something weird like that. But just seeing that and like seeing her walk up the stairs and then actually seeing already the cutouts. I was like, oh, man, I love this. This is great. And then now you just say so funny. Yeah.
00:23:04
Speaker
And now you saying that like, you know, that's what we interpreted was like the, you know, the bad eighties acting. I'm like, that makes sense. That actually, it wasn't just like, you know, it wasn't just what it was. It was, Oh, that was on purpose. That type of thing. So, Oh man. Yeah. That's like, it's, it's one of those things where you can do a series on her as well. Like she can have her own, you know, um,
00:23:23
Speaker
It doesn't have to be about, obviously Freddie will be the backdrop, but you could follow her whole thing. From that movie on, all that, obviously you got to see her. Okay, so I have to ask you then. Okay, if they were to bring Nancy back, what do you think would be a way that you might like to see her or you would be curious about how they could bring her back? I'm not sure if I'd like to see her now. I'd like to see them go back
00:23:53
Speaker
During that time and kind of like cover how you do what you're shooting with the short film But like just follow her like all the way up until she gets older Like what like because it didn't escape her like that's that's gonna stay with her forever Well, she's still having nightmares after that was there, you know where other people in her life affected by it There could be a whole new cast of characters like what happened in between those signs and stuff like that I think you can actually
00:24:19
Speaker
do stuff like that to reintroduce her back into like a newer version of it would be I don't know be kind of hard but I don't know how you do that actually I would I would probably for me it'd probably just be going back back into you know that first movie and then the events afterwards and how she like how that affected her her life and her relationships and all that type of stuff afterwards that's what I would go with but I mean yeah I think that would be really cool because
00:24:49
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, I would love to see like an official take on it because I know what we did was mostly based on the comics and the headcanon. So if they were able to do that, that would be a really interesting story because there would be so much that she would have to go through like, how
00:25:06
Speaker
for her mother or moving or how does she get her life back? How does she decide to buckle down? I think that that would be really cool. I know people have talked about a recoil right after the first. I feel like that would be extremely hard because people love part three so much. I would not care that much if we lost part three because obviously I don't like the ending. But I feel like if they were to continue, I would love to see her and Alice together officially, not just in the comics, but together.
00:25:35
Speaker
And if Nancy, you know, lived in the beautiful dream, but she was like, it was like Laura Palmer in the Black Lodge, you know, Laura in season three is older like today. So, you know, bring in Heather that way. So she only has like a limited time before she officially has to cross over. So her spirit is kind of living on earth. So it's able to grow. I don't know. Explain it away. You know, when they do those things, you're like, ah,
00:26:03
Speaker
Okay, you know what? We'll go with that. Because I would love to see them bring her back, but then there's like this part of me that thinks if they bring her back and they go back in the original storyline,
00:26:15
Speaker
it would be weird not to have Robert back, but he's so much older now. Robert has reached the point where it's gonna be really hard because Robert is taking less time even at his tables. He's no longer standing for photo ops. I mean, he's so much older and more tired that he can barely even do that. So to have him become Freddie again would be hard, but if they would do it, I mean, pick somebody that looks like Robert
00:26:45
Speaker
or, you know, can have the prosthetics and then make him look like Robert to have it. But you don't have to have Robert back physically because I would not want him to go through that. And I know people
00:26:58
Speaker
would not be happy because even if you look when Robert came back for the Goldbergs in 2018, there were people who were like, look at Robert back as Freddie. So you can't win. You just cannot win. And I would much rather he be safe and like in the back, like coaching the actor and whatnot. So then I continue and maybe have his voice at some point to do it.
00:27:19
Speaker
But don't put Robert back through all of that physical stuff again. Yeah, you'd have to definitely kind of recast everything in that sense. And obviously with those short films that are out there, there are actors that can play Robert as a young guy as well as Freddy Krueger. I mean, it's proven in those. It's just a matter of
00:27:43
Speaker
Whether or not, if you're a Die Hard fan, do you want to see someone replace Robert Englund? I find that a nickel. Yeah, I know, right? It's like the newer reboot that they did, it was like, eh.
00:28:01
Speaker
They definitely could have, you know, if they waited a little bit longer and got the right person for, I think it would have been better. It didn't change it. They changed the storyline up to a little bit as far as, you know, the crimes he committed and stuff like that. I think that kind of hurt it a little bit. Yeah. People always talk about that, but like.
00:28:19
Speaker
You know, that was Wes's original intention and it was still implied, but then even the actors in the documentary are like, they use the M word. And then in one of the, you know, newspapers in part five, when Alice and Mark are looking through, you flip one of the newspapers and it says the M word right on it. So technically it is like in there. But people don't, which always makes me laugh because everybody's always like, oh, he's just a child killer. Like, oh, okay, that's better.
00:28:49
Speaker
Yeah, it's okay. It's killing them. It's not okay. It's like, what are you talking about? It's just, it's the same thing as a brutal crime either way. What the heck? But yeah, it's, I think, I think if they kept the implied part of it, I think it would have been
00:29:09
Speaker
better but if you just come flat out and say it it's like it's it's like you don't have to like second guess that it's like if it's if someone's abducting children like it's you don't have to say what's going to happen to them you can kind of just like you leave it to your own imagination in that sense but i think that kind of i think that kind of like maybe especially nowadays i think i kind of like that might be a hard thing to
00:29:32
Speaker
navigate. But I think there's enough creative people out there, um, like yourself and like, you know, the fans of, uh, you know, Fred heads, they can definitely come up with a way and be that like suggestion piece of saying, here's, here's how you do it in today's modern. I were like, would, do you have an idea of what that would look like if they were to like re-release Freddie or nightmare on Elm street today? Like, what would you do to like,
00:29:58
Speaker
Would you change his story? Would you change like the crimes he committed? Like how would you go about doing that? I would keep him as he is in the original franchise. Keep it implied. Okay, he's a child killer. Keep it implied. Maybe have a hint that it happened because I don't think Freddie did it every single time. I think Freddie did it when he chose to. So he was definitely a killer first. Yeah. And I've had a lot of people comment on TikTok recently. They're like,
00:30:26
Speaker
So you like this guy who's actually a child, you know, predator. And I'm like, if for a while I was trying to think about it, like, is it time to cancel Freddie? But the reason that we like Freddie isn't because of that. We don't condone that at all. And none of us are going out and being like, I want to actually do everything that Freddie is. I mean, there have been people in the past, but thankfully they're in jail.
00:30:51
Speaker
Um, that it's what he represents for us that spitting in the face of, you know, everybody's like, you have to be nice. That's why certain actors, a lot of actors are like, I get to be bad and I'm super excited because you don't get to do that. Freddie is just that.
00:31:06
Speaker
that outlet for us to let off steam. And sure we could pick Michael or Jason, we just happen to prefer how Freddie does it. He's having fun while spitting back in the face of like the status quo, which is what I think a lot of us really want to do.
00:31:22
Speaker
um in the end it's like i said like i said this at the beginning like you know freddy's like the unconventional you know slasher you know or like guy if you want to if you want to say that like he's not like the you know straight up like chasing people down and doing all that stuff but he likes to play
00:31:39
Speaker
at first And uh, you know manipulate a little bit and then and then do what he needs to do But like that's that's why I think that's another reason why I think it's kind of you know Hard nowadays for people to grasp that it's like it's not as straightforward as like, you know halloween michael myers You know just killing a bunch of people at once if you see the the the newer movies like there's like a scene at the end of the second one I believe where he's just like going to town just like literally killing everybody
00:32:08
Speaker
It's like, that's not what Freddie does. Freddie's not the, and I think people would get bored of that. It's like, I think that's, you know, they want to see like, you know, gore and, you know, people getting killed, but Freddie Z, like you said, the cerebral, I'm going to play with you first, and I'm going to, you know, creep you out, and then I'm going to do it. Yeah. I think there's an audience. Better than a jump scare.
00:32:30
Speaker
Oh, yeah, I do too. It's just that long drawn out, like, that's scary that you have. Oh, yeah, me too, because it builds and it builds. But the thing about Freddie is I want them to have some humor, but it would prefer it to be like Freddie in part three, or part two, part two is extremely scary. Part three is like he's scary, but he's still like using humor to pick at them. But he's still like sinister the entire time he doesn't become a clown yet.
00:33:00
Speaker
So I feel like that would work and you just, yeah, you just build the tension. Yeah, you have some jump scares, but realistically it's just all that tension. Then after it's done, maybe Freddie does something kind of fun or funny, um, or maybe another character does, but Freddie kind of sticks with that dark humor, which I think would work. Oh yeah, definitely. Like to bring it back on you, like you could definitely see that in, in your content and stuff like that, like your, you know,
00:33:28
Speaker
You're very funny. You're very playful and stuff like that. But you kind of it seems like you kind of like an edge as well, too. Is that where did you where did you pick that? Like, would you pick that up, that type of like humor? And, you know, is that from the Phantom side of it? Have you always had that type of like, you know,
00:33:48
Speaker
They're like kind of, you're just like very animated and at the same time. You think I'm funny? Yes, of course. Yeah. No, you're very entertaining. Like I said, you know, I showed my I showed Sheena my co-host Chick Foley and she was like she wanted it. I was going to have her like be my co-host on this because she doesn't really like to interview people. She's you know, she's.
00:34:08
Speaker
kind of like, uh, she gets like stage fright essentially. But, um, that's why, that's why I'm doing these shows. But like, so I was like, Oh, I was like, follow, uh, sassy sledgehammer on Instagram. And she was like, she's like, Oh my God, she's so cool. Oh my God. I think she follows it actually now.
00:34:24
Speaker
But like just like see like it like you said see your videos and all this stuff that you do like in the like you said the the video I seen when you're you know recommending the the the short films for Nightmare on Elm Street like very just like like where do you did that all come about? Were you were you shy at first when you were younger and then it came out were you always very Outgoing and entertaining like how did that how did that start for you?
00:34:50
Speaker
I've always been the weird girl. My family really is, especially my dad's side is really big into jokes and humor. So that was always a very important part of growing up and interacting with them. My mom's side has it too, but not as much. We just laugh a lot. So that's why my laughs are very loud. And then I try to be funny. It doesn't always stick like my dad. He tries to be funny and sometimes you'd be like, eh.
00:35:17
Speaker
But I did I was theater kid, of course in high school So I did all a lot of theater and I also did speech and debate I did it in an interpretation so I was always making faces and doing things and people have always told me my face is super animated and I'm like I used to struggle for the longest time because I wanted to be like one of those alt girls that was like
00:35:40
Speaker
I'm like, man, what can I do? But then they meet me in person. And I'm like, Oh, I just, I've started to try to embrace it more. And I realized that it could be a lot for people. But I just, I don't know, I just, I have a lot of enthusiasm for things. And I really do want to be funny.
00:36:01
Speaker
Um, so it means a lot of people think i'm funny because whenever I tell somebody something and they're like, uh, i'm like, okay We have to have like you have to have humor first and foremost like you have to you have to think things are funny Um, yeah have that bait like that actually like, you know Base that you're not going to think anything's funny but like like you just actually you mentioned it's like you have like kind of like uh Like you have like an intensity like you said you're kind of like very outgoing out
Personal Connection to Freddy and Collectibles
00:36:29
Speaker
there. But at the same time it's like it's not
00:36:31
Speaker
It's not in a way like people are going to run away scared or anything like that. It's like you could see it. You could see like you said you just said you were a theater kid. You could definitely see like the you know the animated face and all that stuff. Did you you said you didn't think you had an ad like you weren't animated at all? I didn't. Never really. I like would look at other people and they would just like tell a joke and they'd be like and they and people were like so I like always thought that my brand of funny was like
00:36:58
Speaker
clown kind of funny, you know, I wanted to be one of those people that was super witty that you would like sweat if you're in the room with them, you're like, I'm gonna I want to see what they have to say. And you're kind of like riffing off of them. I'm not very good at that. I like the word pickle makes me laugh. You know, that's like kind of funny. But I think that's also why I like Freddie so much is because he does have that sense of humor, you know, if I was like a little more like
00:37:25
Speaker
you know, maybe I'd be more of a Michael girl. I like Michael. Michael's pretty chill. You know, he's wearing a William Shatner mask. That's hilarious to me. But Freddie, Freddie's like the, you know, he says a little something, some he's got that swagger, a little bit of that. And that's just like, I feel like that's kind of my humor. And yeah, so I've just always been weird and making sounds and doing skits and all that stuff ever since I was just very, very little. So yeah, definitely.
00:37:55
Speaker
He's a lot of dad humor too. That's, I mean, I love dad humor. So like, that's me too. That's why like, it's, you know, if you can, if you can love like the, the silly, like corny type of jokes, you can let, you can like any type of like, any type of funny. I, I think anyway, you can, if you can find the humor in anything, I mean, I think that's, that's where it all starts. If you can't find the humor in anything, then you're not going to be able to, you know,
00:38:21
Speaker
get a grasp on what's being pervade. But as far as like for acting, like, do you love, do you love acting? Like, do you love, you know, you know, like I said, with the, with the short film and stuff like that, definitely with definitely talk about five stars, because I thought that was awesome as well. But like, do you love, do you like the process? Do you enjoy it? Is it? Is it something that like,
00:38:46
Speaker
If someone was like, hey, we are rebooting, we want you to be like Nancy, say that happened, would you jump right at it to do it? Or would you just be like, yeah, I don't know.
00:38:59
Speaker
like acting because I like to entertain people. I've been, I'm usually the funny person every time somebody casts me in something. There's been a couple times where I've been a more serious character, but every time I'm super outlandish, it's always, it always goes over very, very well. So I feel really comfortable in that. Every time I have to be serious, I always get very, very worried because my face is so animated. So when we were making five stars, I'm like,
00:39:26
Speaker
Please rein it in. Make a frown that looks like this and not like this. Don't have fish mouth. But that always makes me really nervous because I don't want to look goofy. But if somebody asked me to be Nancy, I would be
00:39:42
Speaker
So incredibly honored because I love her so much and any opportunity that I have to talk about her to push her at the forefront Just anything I would love it and I just would love to be a part of something nightmare officially to like exist in a world where I'm like I I was in the back I was the janitor and the new a nightmare in Elm Street like I live there I live in Springwood and
00:40:05
Speaker
That would be the pinnacle of my entire life. I would everything else would just be a bonus after that point. Just being able to be in a nightmare film would be such an honor for me. But yeah, acting, I don't always seek it out because I just don't think that I'm the best actor in the world. But I've had a lot of people offer me roles and things and they've liked it. So I've been like, that's great. But I'm not very confident. But I do because
00:40:31
Speaker
usually it's a very small cast and it's just all of us. And we're like, okay, let's make a movie together. So I ended up getting roped in that way, but I do, I like to entertain people. So yeah. What was it? I think it was the, um, I can never, I can't remember the name of it. One of the films I watched it was the, it was a story of like, it was almost like the, uh, it was like based on like fan.
00:40:58
Speaker
Obsession. Was it and I can't think of the name of it. You had like a quick clip in it where you like.
00:41:06
Speaker
crying about like it was like it was basically I can't think of the name. Is it called Adherent? Adherent, yes. That's what it was. Adherent, yes. Yeah. Yes. I watched that. Like you said, you know, you can do serious things. Obviously you weren't like you were more like you weren't crying because something bad was happening. It was more or less like, you know, the love of this person brought you to tears, essentially. So I mean, that was a perfect display of
00:41:34
Speaker
of a different side of uh of your instead of being like the funny side of things but yeah that was that was a creepy uh that one yeah that one was a uh that was uh that was a little too real because that stuff does happen actually which is which is scary yeah but um yeah that i think that showed a good display as well um is there are there other would you like to do like comedies
00:41:58
Speaker
as opposed to like, is that something that, you know, as far as acting is concerned? Could you do like a comedic role, you think? I feel like I could. I would love to. I think that would be so much fun. If I honestly had to pick, it would have to be horror or comedy.
00:42:18
Speaker
I feel like those would be the two that I would really, really like to do because I think I would probably have a lot of fun on set. And that's kind of my brand of like acting, I guess, where I'm more comfortable. I'm not a Meryl Streep, even though Meryl Streep can do comedy and she does really well. It'd be cool if I could, but yeah, like horror and comedy. Who's an actor that I would think would be like horror and comedy? I don't know. There's gotta be somebody out there.
00:42:48
Speaker
I'm blanking. Well, she's also done it. Well, actually, a lot of the actors that I think that have done horror and comedy are also really good actors that have done dramas. So, you know, I guess maybe I could do that. But yeah, I would love to do a comedy.
00:43:03
Speaker
Yeah, I can definitely see that. I can definitely see you doing some comedic stuff, as we spoke before with the animated, the funny stuff, but they definitely would be able to deliver those types of lines and stuff like that. But yeah, I think that'd be a...
00:43:22
Speaker
an avenue that you could pursue. Because like I said, mostly most of the videos that you put out on are pretty hilarious. So I think it's just like the like I said, the animated like the animation is the best part. Obviously, you know, not not compared you to like Jim Carrey or like Robin Williams. Like that type of comedy is like lost.
00:43:45
Speaker
that like you know the expressive type of it's more or less like straight jokes and things nowadays and you know being sarcastic and that type of stuff there's not really anyone that's like you know that does like anything funny and you know expressive and stuff like that so like yeah just um if you think about it there isn't really like there's really
00:44:04
Speaker
no expressive, funny type of comedians out there that do funny faces and all that type of stuff. There's no more Adam Sandler kind of comedies or Jim Carrey kind of comedy. You're totally right. Nope. Yeah. It's a lost art in comedy. I'm a comedy person as well. I like comedies too. I kind of watch that too.
00:44:28
Speaker
The next thing I want to jump into before we get into like the five stars, you're the fandom of Freddie. Where did that start? Did that start at a young age?
00:44:42
Speaker
Did it start at a young age? Was he like, was it like, uh, like, like a heartthrob thing? You have like a poster of Freddie on your wall. Do you like he's so, I'm not going to lie. I wrote some fan fiction. Oh geez. I think it's still a deviant art. Maybe it might be like Twilight type of fan fiction. Oh yeah. There was some, there was some, you know, I had a very big crush on Freddie.
00:45:11
Speaker
Um, no, it, it didn't start until I was a teenager, but when I was younger, it's like, it's like Heather says a new nightmare. You know, every kid knows who Freddy is. He's like Santa Claus. So the movies would kind of be on TV. My cousin got me started into war because he loved the universal monsters. And so I'd watch that whenever I'd be over my grandma's house or something. And he had like tales from the crypt. And so I'd kind of watched that with him and my birthdays in October. So I was always very, very curious, but I was not a horror fan. I was in fact afraid of a lot of things.
00:45:41
Speaker
But I just, you know, had a dream, oddly enough, kind of fitting, and woke up and was just like, that Freddy dude, man, I want to know more about him. And that's when I started to rent the movies and I just fell in love with them. Loved his character started with the later ones and then saw the first one fell in love with Nancy and then kind of the rest from there is, is, is history.
00:46:07
Speaker
What did the, so obviously, so if you listen to like the chick pulley show and stuff, we, you know, we talk about, you know, figure collecting and collecting in general. What did the like the collecting part of the, you know, fandom come in? And what was the first thing that you actually, you know,
00:46:24
Speaker
purchase and then you're just like, you know, I gotta get all this stuff. Like, cause that's, that's, that's a, that's a deep dive. Like once you start like becoming a fan of something and then you start collecting it, that's a whole, it brings you to a whole nother another realm. So when did that start?
00:46:42
Speaker
It's really hard to say the first thing that I bought. So the first couple of Freddie items I have are actually a gift from one of my best friends in high school. She gifted me, I think the first thing was for my birthday and it was the VHS of Freddie versus Jason. And then for Christmas, she got me this Freddie doll and then the squirtable Freddie head.
00:47:06
Speaker
Wait, wait, right there. So those were the first items in my collection. And then I think from there, I picked up some like the I am Nancy poster after I met Heather. I had a very small collection. There's like pictures on the internet of like this little tiny shelf with just like some small things. And people started sending me stuff.
00:47:29
Speaker
a lot of Nancy stuff. And so that's kind of where it started. And then from there, I was just like, Oh, there's books. Oh, there's like these different things. Oh, look at this Freddie doll. I love this. And then it just started to build and build. And then a lot more things. Once I knew more of what was out there, like my new nightmare painting, somebody had it new nightmares, my favorite. I'm like, I've got to get that. And then
00:47:52
Speaker
There's like certain items in the nightmare world that are like up there as far as quality goes. So this glove right here is from Demented Glove Works. I love the Freddy gloves so much. They're like one of my favorite parts of the entire franchise. I really wanted a part one. Got that because there's like a couple of different really well-known glove makers. One of them is Anders Ericsson who
00:48:19
Speaker
makes gloves for Robert. That's Robert, one of Robert's best friends and also his official glove maker. So I've got my eye on a new nightmare glove from Anders. So that's the next thing I'm going to purchase, but then like the masks, there's all kinds of Freddy masks out there, but the holy grail is dark ride studios, James up to graph. They make you look so much like Robert. I have one. I got it repaired recently. Um,
00:48:45
Speaker
That is a holy grail and then sweaters. There's a woman named Margaret out of Germany who makes really authentic sweaters and she actually just retired because she's very ill and I put in my order and I finally got a Margaret sweater and so like those things are just such big parts of like the collecting and I just the more little Freddy's I can have or like yeah, I
00:49:10
Speaker
just things from the movies. I, you know, I made my little Nancy sledgehammer. You can't see the top there, but, um, like those things, being able to have them and, and some people collect, you know, the movies or the different kinds of blue rays or things like that. For me, I just like having all the pictures and the toys and the t-shirts. And I guess, I don't know. I think it's because when I was a little kid, I had a lot of Barbies
00:49:34
Speaker
Yeah. And I'd love to put them on display. And I had like Disney dolls and stuff. So I've always just liked the physical representation of things. So I think that's where this comes in. And then things like the glove or the booby trap book or the telephone.
00:49:51
Speaker
make me feel like I've got a piece of the movies, even if they're not directly out of the movies. Even though some people do have that, I would love to own a piece of something from a movie, but I know that's heckin' expensive. Like the Freddie Glove is going for like $100,000. I think it just closed out actually. I don't know how much it went for, but yeah, the OG Freddie Glove, that would be very cool. But can you imagine having that kind of money to just be like,
00:50:18
Speaker
Darling, I'm getting this one hundred thousand dollars. Yeah. Like, like I said, we talk about this all the time. We like, you know, we'll do like we'll have people like, you know, you know, give us questions and stuff like that. And one of the questions that always pops up is if you if you had the you know, the money to purchase, you know, a holy grail, as they call it, the collecting in the collecting world, like what would your holy grail be? And like that, that's definitely a holy grail for somebody. A hundred thousand dollars on a that's insane.
00:50:47
Speaker
But it's, I would be the Nancy jammies. Those are my holy grails that are the house. Both house. That's I mean, that's that's definitely a holy grail on a matter like obviously people still, you know, visit and stuff like that. And I live, put up the gate. Yeah. Well, they're actively working to hide the house.
00:51:08
Speaker
So what's funny, I live in Massachusetts.
Halloween Tourism and Salem's Culture
00:51:12
Speaker
I live about 30 minutes away from Salem. I used to live in Salem, Massachusetts. And the witch's house, not the witch's house. Oh, Hocus Pocus. Hocus Pocus house. They actually blocked that off this year. You could not go see it. They actually put the, they kind of
00:51:32
Speaker
So if you've ever been to same during the month of October, it's literally insane. Like it's like, yeah. So like what they did was like, yeah, they shortened the, like the, like the, the street. So like, you can't even go down that street to see the house. Cause I guess people are complaining and stuff. So yeah. So you can't see the, uh, the hocus pocus house ever. You can still obviously see the Samantha statue and you can still go see the graveyard and all that stuff. I love cause I brought this up earlier. I love the fact that, um,
00:52:01
Speaker
Lords of Salem was filmed there cuz like every time like they're walking by something like oh my god, that's that place That's it. They literally that's they will we fill that in Salem like that all the places that they are in it that they're there I Really want to go, but I have been told don't go during October The traffic it's literally Christmas
00:52:25
Speaker
It's literally the Disney for like, you know, horror fans and, you know, you know, witchcraft and all. And there's obviously there's, you know, there's shops and stuff like that. There's like this legit warlocks and witches that, you know, own businesses and stuff like that. I've worked with a few of them before. They kind of freaked me out a little bit.
00:52:44
Speaker
But, uh, other than that, yeah. But, uh, I don't know where I was going with that, but I actually know it's funny. I didn't live on, uh, in Elm street when I was younger. Cause every, the famous words from Freddy, every town has an Elm street. Yeah. My parent. Yeah. It was a dead end street actually too. So there's a dead end street. Um, it was the funny thing. It was, it was a dead end street. You get to think of joking and it was the last house on the left.
00:53:12
Speaker
I love that. How weird is that? I love that. That's cool. My mother was like, oh, you never heard that movie Last House on the Left? I'm like, no. And then obviously, we proceeded because it was old, old school. We went and rented it. I watched it. And obviously, I was freaked out as a child. And then finding out that we lived on an Elm Street when we're starting to learn streets and stuff like that. And then hearing Freddie said it, I'm like, oh, Jesus Christ. That didn't happen to me.
00:53:40
Speaker
We had a cornfield next to my house growing up. So I was always like, ooh, the creeper's coming for me. That freaked me out. That's another one. But what I was going to say was as far as like the, the community aspect, because one of the things that we, we love about, well, I love about doing, you know, these types of shows and actually podcasting in general is the, is the people that we make the like-minded people, the people that are obviously in your community.
Community and Fandom Connections
00:54:07
Speaker
Like what is, what is that like? Like,
00:54:10
Speaker
How was that like meeting other, you know, fans? Did you have to seek them out? Did they come out and you know.
00:54:17
Speaker
Reach out to you. Was it you know, how did how did that work like with us? It's like, you know People listen to the podcast or we'll follow somebody and then we'll you know, we'll meet someone mutual In that aspect and we might I might even find someone that that I you know that I that i'm friends with that knows Like a podcaster or something like that. So like how did that how does that work out with with the with the fred heads? Was it like?
00:54:42
Speaker
is it do you got do you know everybody or is it like is it so like you know is it small enough where everyone knows each other or is it big enough where you haven't met everyone yet it's tough i think in the community if you're really deep in it
00:54:58
Speaker
it's like a smaller group of people that are really deep in it, and everybody knows everybody who's deep in it. And then you've got the broader community of more people that you know, they really like nightmare and whatnot. So like, the people behind Fred heads, all of us, you know, we're in the deeper community.
00:55:17
Speaker
me, I'm a part of all like the Freddie Glove Ninja Clan, where everybody talks about the gloves and glove making and all of the different nightmare boards. And I met a lot of people on Nightmare on Elm Street Films.com back in the mid 2000s, when we were just like there to talk about, you know, our love for the films. It was before social media was really a thing. That's where we all connected. And then
00:55:41
Speaker
there was like the Springwood Slasher Forum. So it really started on all those forums. And then social media came and we were just kind of like, Hey, I'm on social media. You're on social media from boards. And then it would be like friends of friends or someone would like come across you and add you or you'd add them or you'd see on a like a
00:56:04
Speaker
Facebook page, they love the same thing you did. So then I just like add them or they'd add me and then it was just kind of like, you know, randomly coming across them on social media over time. But most of my friends I met were
00:56:19
Speaker
my deeper friends were between 2007 and 2013, I'd say, is kind of the early days of social media. That's when we came across each other. And we all met online first, and then we met in person. And
00:56:38
Speaker
We've stayed friends ever since. But a lot of it is just boards, Twitter, Instagram, Facebook. Facebook is really where a lot of us also met. And then we kind of branched out from there. But now there's just a lot of different avenues. It's just kind of coming across somebody on social media randomly. But there is a small, small group in there.
00:57:03
Speaker
So it's not like a large amount of fans out there. It's still like a small, like a small-knit community, essentially, when it comes to... Is there like a...
00:57:18
Speaker
You want to kind of like expand, like, and try to like find other, you know, kind of like, you know, Will Smith and I am legend, like, it's going out there going, if you're out there. Yeah, that's kind of what I do.
00:57:34
Speaker
Yeah, I do that all the time because I'm still getting people who will message me and be like, I watched Fred heads and I had no idea that there were, you know, a lot of Nightmare on Elm Street fans like me. And I'm like, Oh my God, the internet's been around so long. How do you not know? Or like TikTok when people are like somebody out there likes this, these films like me. So it's kind of putting it out there to find people or searching through hashtags or topics or something. And someone mentioned it's nightmare. You see that they love it.
00:58:02
Speaker
I immediately will follow them, start interacting with them. So it is kind of like that mix of, hey, are you out there? Now it's a little easier than it was in the beginning. Because in the beginning, I was like, I'm looking for Nancy fans. You like Nancy? You don't like Nancy that much? I'm going to make you like Nancy. And so that was like the big thing. And now I'm just trying to do that in the broader scope of nightmare. And
00:58:23
Speaker
continue to get people on board and I'm like come love Nightmare more learn about Nightmare keep the fandom alive you know because yeah like we talked about earlier it's not really on top of everybody's mind because all these other horror franchises are blossoming but Nightmare is just kind of like hey what's up I've got this section of five things here in Spirit Halloween
00:58:45
Speaker
I hope you like them. And so yeah, just trying to keep it alive and inspire people to like more. So whenever somebody comments and is like, you inspired me to watch the nightmare films or, you know, I loved them. Now I'm getting back into them. That always makes me really happy because that's what I want. I want them to grow and take over.
00:59:05
Speaker
Actually, you know what? You actually brought up a question I want to ask. What do you think it is as far as, do you think there are fans out there and they just don't want to say they're fans of it? Do you think they think it's weird? Because just coming from being a wrestling fan, that was always a thing. You didn't want to tell people you were into wrestling because people thought you were weird. But obviously nowadays, it's like a multi-billion dollar
00:59:32
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industry and all this stuff. Do you think that's a thing within that community? I don't know if I want to bring out my fans and people think I'm weird. Do you think that's a cause of it? What do you think it is as far as? I think it's very similar to wrestling and I think Halloween has become such a mainstream thing now and you can go into
00:59:58
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just random stores and they've got horror shirts on the walls now just like for kids, they're wearing it. And it's almost like the band shirts because people think it's cool. People want to look cool. People want to look edgy. So horror
01:00:14
Speaker
like being an actual fan, I think is a lot cooler now than it used to be. People might not be as big into it. Or if they do, like younger people, big, big droves of fans are really into scream. Like the younger generations are really big into certain things and they want to talk about it.
01:00:31
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And they want to feed into it, but nightmare not as much because nightmare has not yet appealed to Gen Z. Nightmare hasn't done anything to really appeal to Gen Z. So that is an untapped market. And I feel like the next nightmare installment comes out. The nightmare content pops off. The next movie comes out Gen Z. They appeal to that younger generation. Younger generation is like, Oh, I'm such a big fan of that. And then it really starts to blossom and people talk more and more about it. But yeah.
01:00:58
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That's kind of how I feel. Yeah. Cause I was actually thinking of that. I was like, wow, it's like, it's almost like similar where it's like, uh, you didn't really want to say that you're a fan, but at the same time that you find someone that's like-minded, you're like, Oh my God, now I can express this, this type of thing. Like, just like you said, it was, uh,
01:01:16
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I was kind of like one of those people where, you know, like I said, just scrolling on TikTok, end up seeing one of your videos. And I kind of like sparked something that said, hey, obviously I'm not like a super diehard fan, but like it kind of like sparked something to me. I said like, hey, that I was.
01:01:33
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at once like a huge fan of the Nightmare on Elm Street series and that kind of like you know brought me back into the into the world because obviously like I said I started watching all the you know the short films and stuff like that and seeing all the different actors you know portray Freddie and obviously watching your film and then you know just you know deep diving watching the the Fred Heads documentary and stuff like that and you get like the
01:01:58
Speaker
Um, like the, the background on like, wow, I didn't know there was actually like a community of people, um, that were into the nightmare announcing franchise. Cause it was, it's always one of those things where it seems lost and like the, in the, in the world of horror, it's like, you know, Freddy's there, you know, he's like that, that figure, but like, like we said, you know, throughout the shows, like, you know, the halloween said, you know, the Friday, even Texas Chainsaw Massacre has a new video game out and a new
01:02:28
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I know like not that I mean obviously you know we're really reaching at this point there's like random horror movies and they're like it's getting another sequel and I'm like nightmare what's the fudge like yeah it's like it's like it said not to knock those like franchises but like I said there's they're more straightforward they're not as you know like I said cerebral or as like tricky to write for as
01:02:51
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Freddy Krueger, but it definitely can happen, like I said, with Terrifier, which kind of has those elements. You can definitely do it. It's looking terrifying. But even like Chucky. Chucky, I was going to say that Chucky's coming over. He's a series. He's got this massive series. If you would have told me that there's going to be a Chucky TV series.
01:03:11
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Who the heck is gonna watch that? They did such a good, they're doing such a good job with it. It's campy, it's perfect. It's the tone that I love when it comes to like any Chucky films, because Brian Chucky is my favorite.
01:03:22
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Yeah. But like all of that, I love the way that they're doing it. That kind of stuff I don't think would work for a nightmare, nor do I think it should be nightmare. But for Chucky, it's perfect. But like, still, people have been talking about the Mount Rushmore, a poor, they're always like, Michael, Jason, Freddie, who else? You know, and I'm like, you've got Michael and Jason and they're, they're bopping. Jason's trying to bop. But Freddie, what's he doing?
Innovative Freddy Projects and Gaming Integration
01:03:52
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I mean, that's another thing I see on tech talk all the time. People just, you know, live streaming their, you know, them playing the, the game. Cause you can either play leather face or you can play the victims trying to hide from
01:04:04
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Leatherface. So that's a tricky movie to pull like not it's just like like I said, it's very hard to to do that nowadays with like like I said it's it's a lot more thought that goes into the Freddy movies and like a standard you know horror slash reflect like you have to you have to have those dream sequences you have to you have to play between reality you know in the dream world and stuff like that so
01:04:31
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I mean, we see people that are up for the, you know, the task to do that. So I just want the couple studios to get together and be like, all right, Craven Estate, we're putting our money together. We're going to take this. Yeah. Take this. We're going to make it. Yeah. Make a movie, make a video game. You know, do those things, have the original actors from different things come in voice characters in the video games, have new characters, play as
01:04:56
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Play as Freddie play in story mode for you in like a couple of friends Maybe or you know play Friday the 13th style where there's a bunch of teens and one of you is ready And then you have like that kind of stuff. I feel like that would be so Fun and you could do so much with that. Yeah, but yeah, it all comes back to the ravenously if they don't budge I'm gonna start showing up at doors. I'm Gia
01:05:23
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You might as well. I mean, the other thing too, he was actually in, I think in which Mortal Kombat game it was recently too, Freddy Krueger. So like perfect fit for a Mortal Kombat too as well. Like, obviously if you follow Mortal Kombat, the Netherrealm, he's just fit for the, you know, to do it. It's just hard to pull it off for some reason, but I want to get into,
01:05:52
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uh five stars how did that come about because that's uh i was like i see the trailer for and i was like oh my god i gotta watch this and then obviously obviously i did watch it um and it's literally five minutes too it's five stars five it might be a little bit over five minutes but five minutes two five minute watch yeah it's very entertaining how did that how did that come about thank you well um
01:06:19
Speaker
With the strikes, Jason, that's my boyfriend, and I were like, what could we do that's going to be interesting? And Jason had this great idea. He's like, what if we got on a live and we asked the people who follow us and just like our group of friends, come on, and we'll all just start tossing out ideas. We'll make this together. So just the community of whoever was on the live was like, what about this? What about this? And we're like, ah.
01:06:44
Speaker
What do you think? Who do you think should be the killer? How do you think this should play out? And so together going back and forth with this audience, we kind of came up with this concept for Five Stars, which was originally called Dash Slash.
01:07:01
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So then Jason and I took the idea and like I wrote an outline of kind of how I thought it would go and then he massaged it and he started laying out some of the shots and we were looking over it and talking about it together. And we just wrote it out based on the conversation that we just had with everybody on the live stream. And we decided to change it to five stars because
01:07:26
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we felt like Dash Slash was a little too corny for the the way that we took it but it was interesting because my I like my original idea for the short was more like like typical little bit campy slasher maybe um like maybe a totally killer approach or freaky because I really like horror comedies especially the way that Blumhouse does them and his was a little more cerebral and so
01:07:55
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we went with five stars and we just kind of went back and forth. We're like, what should it say on the window at the end? Should it say thanks? And I'm like, no, it should say five stars. We're like, Oh my God. And so we just kind of went back and forth with all of that and shot it over two nights and Jason did all the editing. And it was really funny because as we were doing it, um,
01:08:17
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he would take a shot because it was just the two of us. So we're like, we hope we like got everything in focus. Like how does it look? So he'd take it, he'd take the camera and he'd plug it into his computer and then he would be in costume just looking at it, editing it as we're making it. And then we would decide like, okay, we don't need to do that. Okay. I mean, we need, we need to put this in here. What, where should this go? And so we're, we're changing it and adding it as we're doing it over these two nights. I think we started from like, we filmed from like five, seven PM to like,
01:08:48
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two in the morning on a Friday and Thursday night.
01:08:56
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did such a good job with editing. I think he does such an eye because he watches a lot of filmmaking, like YouTube videos and equipment. So he's put a lot of thought into these. And then we invested in just this different kind of equipment. But he really is the master behind the cinematography and editing there. I was just mostly DP. And I thought, OK, we'll make the girl the killer. But because I also had to be the victim,
01:09:24
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he also had to play the killer most of the movie except for like the ending or a couple of insert shots where it had to be close up on my eyes so he was just a real trooper just managing it. I mean he really was the director of this project and I was just kind of going along with it and we want to continue to do more shorts because we love creating and watching individual things but
01:09:46
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Yeah, it really just started by a community approach which we loved because everybody had so many good ideas so we want to keep doing stuff like that. Yeah, I was gonna say he's definitely he's definitely like an integral part of like.
01:09:59
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what you do, you can definitely tell that and watching that. And all the pretty much all the stuff that you do, you can definitely it does he do all the like the the YouTube stuff as well? Yeah, he's the he's the editor. For a lot of our shows will come up with ideas or most of the lives I'll come up with ideas. You just kind of go back and forth like a team. He does not feel as comfortable in front of the camera. He's very much a behind the scenes kind of guy.
01:10:29
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but that allows me to think about more of how I'm going to manage myself or manage a show or like the areas that I want to take it into.
Collaborative Content Creation and Partnerships
01:10:37
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Um, because if it wasn't for him, like we have sound blankets and like lights here and here. And, um, I mean all of this like visual stuff, the audio was all him. And so he is a huge part and we just riff off of each other. It really is a,
01:10:53
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combination, but it's mostly horror, which is the area of my expertise. And so we have just this balance between the two of us, I might be in front. And so I like to try to have him and let people know that he's such an important part. But
01:11:08
Speaker
As for my social media stuff, that's mostly me, but our YouTube stuff is the two of us. Yeah, as I was saying, obviously, I wasn't going to overload myself too crazy, but I skipped through all the YouTube pages and stuff like that and seeing all the different shows and things like that. Do you plan on continuing any of those, like the coffee show that you have?
01:11:34
Speaker
Uh, what else am I doing? So the reading one was pretty, I did watch all the, you know, every single chapter, but that, I thought that was an awesome idea. Just, you know, picking a book and then, you know, doing like, kind of like an, like an audio version of it or audio slash video version of it. Um, are there plans to do more things like that? We would love to, um, we definitely do the, we have all these ideas of things that we want to delve more into, but we've just been like,
01:12:02
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figuring out how they could do it because we're trying to respect the strike because so much of what I love and everything is really close. I'm close with a lot of the actors from the nightmare films. And so I want to respect them and show solidarity with them. But there's like, we have our snacks and screams show where I watch a horror movie that and just like review it. But it's also like promoting and entertaining it.
01:12:28
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and then pair it with a stack. And the next one we're going to do is Leprechaun 3, but we haven't like done it yet because we didn't want to like promote the movie too much or we want to do like list videos, but we haven't done that because we're like, we were like scared to like promote the movies directly and be like, go watch this. Um, and then there's a bunch of like,
01:12:52
Speaker
People always ask me to rank like the Freddy appearances or the nightmare movies, which I've never done publicly, but I'm going to do that after the strike ends. But I want to start doing video essays too, because I love watching things like that and delving into what's going on in the horror community.
01:13:11
Speaker
what's going on in the world of Nightmare and things like that. So we plan to do more of that, but we also get invited to do a lot of coverage events. So we like to feature that as well. And so we're always just trying to find because our mission is to make horror funner.
01:13:30
Speaker
The horror is fun and there's a lot of things you could do but we always try to interject like our little quirky senses of humor and our unique like wherever we come from. We also want to do more cosplay videos because I love cosplay. That's how I like the main thing that I started to do when I first got into creating things in horror
01:13:52
Speaker
So, but it's just, there's been like little bits here and there, but we haven't done like the big push yet because of the strikes. So we're just like, can we do this? Can we not do this? We could do a little bit of this, but let's not do it too much. So we definitely want to do more. We're just like nervous with all of that. But the coffee show, we have our next episode filmed.
01:14:16
Speaker
And I, we've not said this out loud, but I'm going to tell you right now, I actually reviewed Lisa Wilcox's coffee with Lisa Wilcox here in the studio. So I'm over here and she was here and we just did like this riff back and forth and we reviewed the coffee and we talked a little bit about, we played a couple of games, but
01:14:36
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Yeah, so and there might be some chances in the future to do more stuff with Lisa because Lisa actually does she's a local she's here in Vegas and
01:14:48
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we and there's some others like the nightmare cast comes through from time to time for like events and things. So I might be doing some things with some other people in the near future. But the coffee is definitely making a comeback. And we want to do more shows involving the people who helped to make the coffees. So we'll see how that goes. But yeah, Lisa Wilcox is the first episode in the new installment of how we're doing spooky sips.
01:15:16
Speaker
Yeah, I always want to do something with like I love I mean, I love coffee. And there's there's a that's one of the things I kind of want to incorporate either that or or beer, but there's a lot of like type like podcasts I do like, you know, you pick a beer and, you know, kind of like, you know, kind of like how you do with the snack, like put the beer with the movie, like how it interprets it and stuff
Online Persona and Branding Inspiration
01:15:40
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like that. Oh, that's cool. There's tons of different
01:15:42
Speaker
types of obviously like local breweries and things like that. I do all these like obscure types of beers and stuff like that. So that's actually do that because you're like, you know, you have your own unique spin. Yeah. Even if other people do it, you could still find it a way to make it you. Oh, yeah. Like I said, there's plenty of people that do like like like what I'm doing now is plenty of people that do like interview type shows, but like
01:16:09
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Like I said, mine's more of a personal thing because it's like people that I find interesting. I'm not sure if anyone else is. But I could gauge the audience that we have for our base, our core audience is going to listen regardless. But I think something like this
01:16:28
Speaker
is is awesome because I get to you know reach out to the people that I find interesting and that I you know that I want to you know kind of like I said pick their brains and see like you know how you know how this started like where they get the idea from all that type of stuff so I guess I could definitely you know think of doing something like that but I'll stick with this for now and then
01:16:49
Speaker
Yeah, don't overwhelm yourself. I think I do three, so I do this one and I do two other podcasts. Obviously, it gets a little crazy just sitting down and talking for hours and hours, but I want to get into the name. Where'd the name come from?
01:17:12
Speaker
sassy sledgehammer. Yes. So when I was thinking about, well, my usernames on everything used to be Nancy Thompson 1428. But I was like, well,
01:17:23
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What if down the line, I want to do other things, you know, because I like a lot of different things. So what's something that represents me, but also gives a nod back to Nancy. And Nancy has her sledgehammer in the first movie. And I'm like, well, I think that that sledgehammer is so important. And I kind of want to have, you know, the couple of letters going together. So how do people sometimes describe me?
01:17:47
Speaker
Sassy. So I guess sassy sledgehammer. I hope it works out. I really hope, you know, and I've been thankful because if I was still Nancy Thompson 1428 across everything, I'd be like, yeah. And if I was D laser, like, okay, yeah, people would remember the name, but I always get compliments on sassy sledgehammer. So I'm like, I feel, I feel pretty confident in that. So whenever somebody tries to ask me, like, what should I pick for my username? I'm like, well, you know, think down the line about
01:18:16
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you know, what's important to you? And if you do well, you know, 10 years from now, is that name going to be important? Are you going to go from like, what was it? Lil Bow Wow to something else, or Snoop Dogg to Snoop Lion, you know, something like that, where you're going to want to change it because rebranding is never easy. So find a name that really
01:18:40
Speaker
you're cool with, whatever it's going to be. If it represents you, go with it. So yeah, that's, that's how sassy sledgehammer came about. Has a little bit of Nancy, but it also has a little bit of y'all in it. Yeah, it's, I like it. It was something, yeah, the, the, the captain part of it. Is that
01:19:01
Speaker
Oh, yeah, so yeah, so when we decided to do the YouTube channel together He on all of his social medias was like the captain something So he now he's the camera captain and I'm like, okay the captain and then Sledgehammer be weird, but people usually call me sassy because it's the first part of sassy sledgehammer So he just said let's just combine it and just be captain sassy and then we just went and found like a little picture and use some Photoshop and created the little logo and we've been talking about
01:19:31
Speaker
Take like me actually creating a cosplay for Captain sassy and like bringing her on YouTube or bringing her to shows I'm doing something like that It's almost like, you know, like Joe Bob has his like cowboy thing or Elvira has her like yes of the dark outfit and So just having this captain is just super weird but I love dressing up and when you put on an outfit that's not you and
01:19:57
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You can do something a little bit different or unique. And I just thought that that would be kind of cool. So I've been looking at Captain Costumes to bring her to life. All right. Yes. I thought it was like the Captain Power is based off of that.
01:20:13
Speaker
Captain Spalding from House of the Thousand Corpses and obviously, you know, the Three from Hell and Devil's Rejects and stuff. But obviously, now I know the actual thing. But yeah, that'd be actually pretty cool if you brought that character to life. That's an element, obviously, that you can bring up.
01:20:34
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um that'll like obviously you know expand on on your brand and stuff like that and i think that's one of the things i sent you was like what's your what what do you have any like plans for for your brand and then you know everything has a whole like is there like i know like you said you know you're bringing back the series and stuff like that but
01:20:54
Speaker
Is there more movies down the line? Is there an expansion? Are we looking to take the same global and corporate? What do we do with that? That is such a good question because
01:21:09
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you know, when I started doing this, I was like, my mission, everything is to bring Nancy to the people.
Cosplay and Creative Talents
01:21:14
Speaker
And that was everything that I wanted. So I just talked about Nancy. And then after a while, you know, having people tell me like, Oh my God, you're the Nancy girl. I'm like, when did it, did it got this, got that, okay, we've got more Nancy in the world, I feel accomplished. Now it's like, what do we want to do? Do we want to
01:21:33
Speaker
make more movies, which we do. Do we want to get into filmmaking? Because that's why we also thought about Captain Sassy Media is that we would start also doing more films. So like, you know, helping be a production company of sorts. But also,
01:21:52
Speaker
and this is where it gets really hard for me because I like watching all horror. People love it when I talk about Nightmare and obviously that's the number one thing. Like I could talk for hours about that. I'm still learning about everything else but I want to start branching out to do more coverage of like other things but I'm not very good at interviewing people. I'm like not, I like
01:22:12
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I like talking to people, but when it comes to like about movies, I'm like, um, that's not really my thing. Cosplay definitely, um, fan culture, you know, going to events and featuring it or featuring somebody's story, even like,
01:22:28
Speaker
like doing this, but like making little documentaries about creators that I love or like brands that are spooky that I love or like we've got nightmare toys here in Las Vegas. Like let's talk about their story and do a little tour of it or something like that. Cause we already have a lot of people who do really good location tours and things like that. So trying to find the areas that make us happy and what we like to talk about so that we don't ever get bored with it. But, um,
01:22:56
Speaker
also making it interesting. And since we have had a chance to do a lot of things in my life, I've gotten opportunities that not everybody has. I'd like to give people a peek into that as well. So usually it's fun stuff and then just story based kind of content to show people what else is out there in the world of horror.
01:23:19
Speaker
are the things that we really like talking about and I want to continue to showcase. And of course, more nightmare as much as possible. That's the main goal there. That's obviously the main goal. What are some other
01:23:36
Speaker
Obviously, you know, we talked in, you know, we went we went crazy with all this stuff. But what are some other what are the other things here? Do you have any other interests? Like what are the do you have like your sports? Are you into hunting, hiking? I don't know any like music. Do you sing? Are you a like any other things you love besides horror and stuff?
01:24:04
Speaker
Yes. I, well, I love the Phantom of the Opera. That was a big thing when I was a kid. I like don't do much with that, but I love Phantom. I am a huge classic rock and roll fan. I also really like watching videos on like music and metal and things like that. I have a smaller, much smaller than this ACDC collection because they're my favorite band. So I have another lightning bolt here. Um, so I know a lot about them.
01:24:33
Speaker
have a lot like anything them I love. I do like Disney a lot. I liked the show once upon a time. That was my so if you ever search the Regina Mills on TikTok, you'll see how I started on TikTok, which was doing Regina Mills content, which was going very, very well for me in 2020.
01:24:57
Speaker
But then I was like, I was like, I want to grow out my hair. And just different things. And I just stopped doing it. But I think I had like 222,000 people by the end of 2020. And I just wanted every time I'd create more horror content, people would be like, where's Regina? So then I just created Sassy Sledgehammer this year. And then occasionally we'd do Regina content.
01:25:22
Speaker
So I did that for a while. I'm trying to learn how to sew so that I can make my own costumes because I love cosplay. And there's like, I would love to make one of Regina's evil queen costumes from Once Upon a Time or like redo my Nancy pajamas in a better
01:25:39
Speaker
quality like material and make it as accurate as possible and do something like that make my own costumes help other people because I'm such a sucker for accuracy that I feel like that would be the best avenue for me but it really is a lot of just like
01:26:01
Speaker
I want to, I'm trying to continue to learn how to roller skate because people who roller skate just seems like so much fun. But yeah, it's like bands and movies and
01:26:14
Speaker
goofy things and dressing up are like everything that I love to do. I also really like eating food. So I'm always down or like travel somewhere do something new. But yeah, that's that's most of what my life is because I've been thinking like what other hobbies can I have? And like the things that I do professionally are also the things that are my hobbies. Yeah, just kind of like all all melts together. But
01:26:43
Speaker
Yeah, I love rock and roll. I like music. And I'm trying to become a better cosplayer. I was gonna say you could definitely.
01:26:54
Speaker
reach out to about, I'm pretty sure she'd help out her name. I think I said it before, over the moon salt. She does like a lot about cosplay. She does her own costume. She stitches everything. Hand stitches. She doesn't do any, she's trying to learn how to do like the machine, the sewing machine. She knows, she says she knows how to use it like a little bit, but everything that you see, if you go to her page is literally all hand stitch, which is,
01:27:22
Speaker
that's pretty amazing um and like i said we i had her on the uh halloween special that we did because you know she was a costume portion of it so we talked about costumes and stuff but uh yeah she does amazing work and i'm pretty sure if you like dm her and ask her like you know how to get started she'll definitely help you out she's uh i would love that yeah you know alison tabitha have you followed her
01:27:46
Speaker
She makes all her costumes and she does like makeup on her face to make her look like, it's just, just cosplayers are incredible. Like the first cosplayer I ever came across was in college and it was Yaya Han, whom I still love. Yes, I follow her. She was like one of the first ones I started following. Oh no, Alison Tabitha. Yeah, I followed her because of the, her Wonder Woman.
01:28:11
Speaker
I was playing, she looked literally exactly like, uh, uh, Gao Godot. So I was like, I was like, is that her? And I was like, no, no, it isn't. It's someone else. Yeah. She's such a chameleon. She's amazing. Yeah. She's, uh, everything that people do now, like 3d printing, I'm like,
01:28:28
Speaker
That's incredible. That's such an art form. You look at these people who make these, cause another thing that I love to do is watch YouTube videos that are just like San Diego Comic Con cosplay. I love watching videos like that. And just, I love genetic cosplayers, people who look like the actors.
01:28:49
Speaker
I think that's so cool. You don't have to look like the actors to do a good job, but the people who really look like the actors, I'm always like, oh my gosh, this is incredible. And then just some of the really big costumes. And I'm obsessed with cosplay. I love it so much. It's incredible what people do and make with their hands.
01:29:10
Speaker
I definitely want to have more uh like I said over the moon so I definitely want to get more uh cosplayers and definitely like artists too like uh you know there's a lot of artists that I follow like comic book artists you know painters you follow Lee Howard on TikTok he does well he's one of my best friends oh really wow
01:29:29
Speaker
Yeah, if you want him, I can definitely hook you both up because he is Yeah, he's one of my best friends in the world. So lovely. He's had so much success. Yeah, I've had a couple. I've had a couple of
01:29:45
Speaker
uh artists well one of the artists i head on which is he's he's a part of our uh podcast platform his name's uh his name's extra cooler on instagram his actual name is next deck but he's called extra cool because uh funny story you know the ecto cooler uh high c drink without back of the day obviously they do like re remakes of it and stuff like that so he uh his uncle works for
01:30:11
Speaker
High C. Are they like in the 80s? And his uncle had the Ghostbusters account when the Ghostbusters movies was out. And he went to Nick when he was a kid and was like, hey, I have this account. They're looking, here's a list of names that they want to name this High C drink. What do you want to call it? What would you pick? And he's like, oh, I picked extra cooler. I thought that was pretty ecto cooler.
01:30:39
Speaker
And, uh, they, that's how, that's how you get the reason for ecto. I didn't even know that. Yeah. When I was interviewing him, I was like, cause obviously I, I work with, uh, with the chick Foley show. We like, he, he did literally did all of our designs. He does like a lot of design work for like, like a lot of like athletes and you know,
01:31:00
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wrestlers and all that stuff so like we're like kind of small time but he's our friend and you know we we get a lot of like we bounce a lot of ideas off each other so i had him on the show and we're just talking stuff like that and you know i was like extra cool where'd you get that name and he was like oh i was a fan of extra cooler and he's like i'm not sure if i said this um in public he's like but my uncle was uh you know
01:31:20
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He was like an advertiser. He had the account for the Ghostbusters movie and blah, blah, blah. He's like, he gave me a list of names. I was like, they actually gave him like a, I think it was like a year supply of like, acto cooler juice and stuff like that. I think a life supply. Oh, yeah. They should. Exactly. He's the one that brought the, brought the names to life. But yeah. So if you go to his baby,
01:31:41
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Yeah. So you literally, yeah. So if you go to his page, extra cooler, I think, uh, he has like a few animations where he has like the little, like, um, like the actual drink with the little straw sticking out of it. That was like his original logo logo at the time, but yeah.
01:31:56
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Kind of funny thing, right? Yeah, so like, these are all like, like I said, these are, you know, I'm lucky to actually know him and actually, he's actually working on my, they're working together on my new show logo and the logos that you see here in the corners. We're actually working on a redesign for both of those. So we're actually working now, but yeah, he was the- Macho man. I'm sorry, I went on his profile. Macho man is my favorite. He does a lot of characters. He does like, he does like,
01:32:25
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He doesn't he doesn't he displays like a lot of work So like if he does like commissions with people he'll like display The commissions and stuff like that for them too. So he'd be another he'd be another person to reach out to is you know, if you want like a a logo or Or some type of like artist direction like i'm literally letting him Have free reign because I have no idea what I want to do with these two logos help me out but uh, anyway, i'm not sure how we got off on that tangent but
01:32:49
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This is awesome. This is so cool. I love this. I love pandoms, man. People have such cool stories in this world. Like I said, I spend a lot of time on TikTok and I spend a lot of time on Instagram. Not like my whole life is wasting. I like to try to find different things and people that I'm interested in and stuff like that. And like I said, you were one of them.
01:33:13
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Um that I they came across I I think you're the probably like the last one I seen on tick tock that I like had interested in actually like you Seeing if this person would actually like, you know sit down and actually talk because that's the other part of this show I'm not sure if they're just gonna be like this dude's a creep or this This guy's a weirdo. I'm definitely not doing a show. Um, so, you know, the fear is this one reach out and say hey are you willing to do this or not or whatever but
01:33:39
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I always I always provide a link to the show so you can actually go and you know listen to it if you haven't heard and stuff like that but most people haven't but like you know just doing doing this type of things and like you say like you said fan a fan of fandoms that's what i i think that's kind of like what i am i like you know i see you know people like live out their dreams online um do what they love and then i you know i gain interest in it i go maybe you know that person will sit down and talk to me and you know i can kind of like you know
01:34:08
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pick their brains and see where they, you know, see where they come from and how, how this came about, like how this, you know, obsession, if you want to call it came about for them, this, this healthy obsession as I call it. That's more of what I want to do too. I want to do a series on the YouTube called, well, the working title is school me. It's just where I get somebody who's a really big fan of something and they just tell me like all the cool stuff that they know.
01:34:33
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And I'm like, dude, because of course I know stuff about nightmares, someone will be like, so someone in my comments was like, watch. They were saying something when I was talking about Nancy, like, they were like, No, watch the movies. I was like, cool you on every single one.
01:34:52
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But like, there's always something new to learn. I mean, there's things, of course, I was, there's so much to learn out there, but like Jiggy Sawgirl, dude, I wouldn't just talk to her forever about everything she knows about Saw or, you know, they're like Ryan C. Showers, what he knows about Scream. I want to watch, like, what people do you know about the movies that I don't? Like, tell me the most interesting facts in the world, or like you were mentioning the,
01:35:17
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Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles girl, like that is the coolest thing in the world.
Impact of Fandom and Top Nightmare Films
01:35:21
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Tell me, tell me about like, I freaking love people being passionate when I was in college.
01:35:27
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And I was a part of an organization and Anime Club was in the desk next to me. And when I have office hours, I'd be like, what's your favorite anime? Tell me about your cards. Do you class play? And they invited me to their end of the year anime party for Anime Club because I was just so interested in everything that they had to say. And people make fun of people with fandoms, but you could do. If I was not a fan of Nightmare in the way that I am, I would not be living where I am.
01:35:56
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I would not be talking to you. I would know so many friends all over the world. Being a fan of something has made me so globally aware of everything that's out there and whatever is possible. Don't let anybody ever tell you that you can't do something or that what you're doing is small because it's not. This is incredible.
01:36:19
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You know, yeah, you know, definitely. Yeah. It's one of those things where, you know, like I said, you want to, you want to kind of connect with the people that are, you know, obviously, you know, you might have a different fandom of something, but all in all, you're, you're kind of like the same.
01:36:34
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in the same realm, you're the same person. You're in this culture where it's either you obsessing over one thing or collecting another thing, but at the same time, we're pretty much all a niche group of people that can kind of connect on stuff. And like I said, this is one of the reasons why I love doing this is just reaching out to someone that I find interesting. Like I said, it's more of me being more personal in a sense, but in hoping other people
01:37:03
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like what I'm putting out there and presenting. That's how I want to connect with people. If you gain a friend through it, that's even better. I've met so many people from doing this show and the other shows that I do, like people across the world, England,
01:37:22
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uh Australia like oh like there's there's people that like obviously they're not the same time zone but uh we can we can communicate somehow on Facebook or Instagram and stuff like that but um and obviously across the country everyone has a different time time zone so and then you introduce me to like other people that I'm going out there and I'm following I mean it's just yeah
01:37:45
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thing in the world. Yes. Like I said, there's an interesting world of people out there that are, you know, in the, like I said, kind of like nerd culture, if you want to call it that, whether it be, like I said, you know, if you're into professional wrestling, if you're into horror, if you're into anime cosplay, all these all these people are interesting and they all they all have these unique stories that I think need to be heard or should be heard.
01:38:13
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that I think are interesting because that's one of the main reasons why like I said I do the show is to find out those stories and you know and uh and learn more about people and kind of take those experiences that they tell me and kind of you know either use them in my life or kind of bring it to my next my next interview and kind of use that as a as a reference point that type of thing so
01:38:36
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Yeah, that's enough about me. But yeah, this is great. This is awesome. I don't want to hold you any longer. I would. But there's so many other things I forgot to ask you about that. And that's why I love doing this show is because there's no complete format to it. It's more or less like wherever the conversation goes is going to go.
01:38:58
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But yeah, definitely, I would definitely love to have you back on again to, you know, ask me some more questions and deep dive a little bit more if if you would be so kind to do so. But I love that, you know, as the weird girl who's always felt like like sometimes
01:39:17
Speaker
the odd one out or other people just to have people like the things that I put out into the world that are in my brain that I used to hide in the back of a closet because I was afraid of anybody finding out or before the internet. Even now, people are still discovering people who have fandoms or interests. It's nice when you connect with people who connect with you and your friends wherever we are. It's amazing.
01:39:44
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Like I said, it's like I said, it's the it's the it's the culture of like, you know, obsession that that brings us all together pretty much. It's like it's like I said, you could be following one thing on on Instagram or TikTok, but it will bring you to another another realm or something similar to to that. And that's how you find people. That's how I like I said, that's how I found you. That's how I found, you know, my co-host Sheena, you know, just following on Instagram and, you know, we linked up and
01:40:14
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We're doing a show. I mean, we've been doing a show. It's like our five year, which is pretty insane. Oh, yeah. So, uh, but yeah, no, this is awesome. Uh, definitely thank you for being on the show. Thank you for, you know, taking the time to sit down and talk. And, uh, we'll, we'll end it here. I think, uh, actually, you know what? We don't end it here. I haven't actually have a question. So I usually, um,
01:40:37
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So if it's a, if it's a person that's into wrestling, I usually ask them like a wrestling oriented question that kind of sums him. So I'm going to ask you a question. Um, we'll keep it. We'll keep it nightmare and Elm street. What is, can you rank? I'm not going to say 10. Can you rank one to five? We'll start at five, five to one, the nightmare and Elm street movies in the franchise. Oh, ranked my top five. Yes.
01:41:07
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All right, let's see here. Well, it might be easier actually for me to go the other way. Okay, number one is Wes Craven's New Nightmare. Hands down, my favorite. Then the first one, which started it all. I'm gonna go number three, because it really is a good story, even if I don't necessarily like how the ending panned out. I prefer the original ending. I'm gonna go number two.
01:41:38
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because number two is, in my opinion, such a great scary movie. Jesse is a really good character. Mark Patton's a really good guy. And I think it is the creepiest version of Freddie. And then number five, I'm going to say is my comfort movie.
01:41:56
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out of all the horror movies in the world is number four, A Nightmare on Elm Street 4, The Dream Master. I love Alice. I love Rick. I love the whole cast in that movie. It's just such a, it's such a fun, I don't wanna say feel good movie, but like, yeah, I feel good. It's got a great soundtrack, you know? I love Tuesday night as Kristen Parker. I don't care what anybody says. I love her as Kristen.
01:42:26
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And so, yeah, I would say it would be it would be that it'd be the first it'd be your nightmare one, three, two,
01:42:35
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four. Yeah. I love three. I don't know if that's, that's the one I seen the most for some reason. I think that was, I'm not sure if like it was on HBO at the time, like a lot. And that's the one I've always seen. Um, and that's, that one's my favorite one. Obviously Lawrence Fishburne is in it as well, which is pretty cool. The other, the other, um,
01:42:58
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just random. Another movie that I love. That's a horror movie, or probably should say slasher movie. Friday the 13th, part six, for some odd reason. Don't know why.
01:43:19
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Maybe that's why because I was like just a kid in here and farted is hilarious like that movie I don't know why that's my favorite and they have actually I actually want to pick up the
01:43:30
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They actually have NECA makes the different series figures, but they actually have Friday the 13th, Part 6 Jason figure. And they do, they actually have Nightmare on Elm Street as well. That's another question I was gonna ask you, but that'll be another one about the action figure line. But anyway, we'll end it here. We'll have you on again and I'll ask you all the questions that I forgot. And I will,
01:43:59
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We'll see you soon. Thank you for joining me. Thanks, Mark. I appreciate it. Thank you. Bye.