Katya Cengel (@kcengel) is a journalist and author who wrote "The Truth is Out There" for The Atavist Magazine.

• In this episode we also here from editor Jonah Ogles on:
• What sets pitches over the top
• Pitching multiple times

And trust

Katya takes over and talks about:

• Untidy endings
• Earning trust with sources
• And finding enough 'there' there

Newsletter: Rage Against the Algorithm

Show notes: brendanomeara.com

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