Unpopular Decision
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was created. This made a lot of people very unhappy and has widely been regarded as a bad move.
Introduction and The Hitchhiker's Guide
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Welcome to Based on a Book. I'm Crystal, and today i will be your guide to the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy.
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I'm Carrie, the unqualified guide with an alarming sense of misplaced confidence due to my skills in YouTube research. And I'm Lindsay. I'm the slightly panicked guide armed with sarcasm and absolutely no idea what's going on.
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That's right, friends. We're continuing our month of mayhem with none other than a beloved favorite, The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy. This comedy sci-fi by Douglas Adams was originally a radio sitcom on BBC Radio.
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It has since been adapted into a five-book trilogy, you heard that right, comic books, a television series, a movie, multiple stage productions, and even a video game.
Focus on the Novel and 2005 Movie
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We've decided to focus on the first novel and its 2005 motion picture for this discussion. Our story follows Arthur Dent, a typical, somewhat aloof British man who finds himself thrown into a cosmic misadventure after the Earth was mistakenly destroyed by aliens.
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Together, with a mix of galactic hooligans, Arthur finds himself on a journey to discover the meaning of life, the universe, and everything.
Carrie's Audiobook Review
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So, Carrie, what'd you think?
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You always start with me on these sci-fi ones. That is not true. Okay, maybe it's true. I gave it three paranoid androids.
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And... yes I thought it had like its moments of being pretty good. Okay. I was like vibing with it, I guess.
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Like that's all I can really describe it. Is that I was just vibing with it. I wasn't obsessed. I didn't dislike it at all. I was just like, was having a decent time.
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and Okay. I mean, it is a vibe. Yeah, it's honestly a vibe. And that's kind of how I felt. Like, I actually listened and read at the same time.
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Sometimes I like to do that. And um it's narrated by Stephen Fry, who also narrates the guide during the movie. hmm. And the narration was done so, so well. I love the audiobook narration. It's like, has a lot of personality in it. So it's really fun to listen to. So I did that while I was reading. And think that helped a lot for me.
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but um As someone who's, you know, doesn't read a lot of sci-fi, but thought it was a
Lindsay's Movie Adaptation Review
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vibe. It was fun. All right, Lindsay. I gave it four dingoes kidneys or two pairs.
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That's sweet. I really liked it. I mean, I really I've seen the movie before, but I really like the humor. ah like the movie itself. I mean, and like Carrie said, it's a vibe.
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I liked it. Had either of you read the book before? I've never even seen the movie either. Okay, so this we did just read the first book in the five book series. Technically, there is a sixth book. It was written by Owen Coffer posthumously after Douglas Adams passed.
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So some people say it's not technically part of the trilogy. Other people argue there's a reason it's finished. But like, I don't care what side you stand on that. We only read the first book is my point. Yeah.
Adaptation vs. Original Discussion
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Do you either of you think that you might continue the series?
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Uh, maybe. it does, like, I mean, kind of end on a cliffhanger. and I was curious, because do have, like, the collection of that has all the stories in it. And I kind of wanted to continue when I was finished.
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And I did hear that the second one was, like, just as good as the first one, I have heard. But I did hear that people don't feel the same for the other books after the second one. so I have read the whole series.
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I have listened to the original BBC radio program. i have watched the television show. i have seen one stage adaptation. It was awful in all the best ways.
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um i have not played the video game. I'm
Cast Impressions and Characters
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disappointed. I know, right? Video games are just not my jam. I'm really good at Tetris, though. i I give this four and a half.
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Pan Galactic Gargle Blasters. Because I'm a drink girly and cocktail's girly. And and like I love the whole series. So i I'm going to be one of those that's like, the second book is great, um which is The Restaurant at the End of the Universe. The third book is great. The fourth book is great. The fifth book is great. I've not read the sixth because it came out after I had already finished the first five.
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So I love it. I think it kind of really... The whole story is really worth seeing and it does all come together and coalesce in a really nice way, I
Opening Comparisons
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think. So I highly recommend finishing the series if you feel like it. I also think this is an amazing audiobook.
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I've listened to the audiobook on the whole series a handful of times because it's a great road trip audiobook. It's just because it's fun and light and and easy. So I highly recommend to anybody who's looking for that.
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Having said all that, you guys ready to get into spoilers? Yeah. Yes. Let's do it. Well, all right then. Let's all hop on board the Hot Mess Express and discuss the 42 ways we're all more confused than the main characters.
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Jump right in. The book opens on a small house in England with Arthur Dent waking up and starting his day. The movie starts with a musical number by Dolphins. Oh.
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I was concerned. I thought it was about to turn into an actual musical. i Because, you know, i don't like to look up anything about the movie. like to go in completely blind. I don't want to watch a trailer or anything.
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And I was like, is this supposed to be a musical right now? What did Crystal just sign me up for right now? Like a SeaWorld musical. Like it's dolphins jumping through these hoops. Yeah.
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And it's it's the so long and thanks for all the fish ah musical number. which is the title of the third book, fourth book. I can't remember, but dolphins are the third most intelligent being on the planet.
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No, the second dolphins are the second most intelligent being on the planet. Humans are the third. So that's kind of where like the musical number at the beginning of the movie tells us, sets the stage for Knowing that, okay, the dolphins are smarter than man.
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And then it tells us that the dolphins all disappeared one day. And their last message to us was so long and thanks for all the fish. So it was a lovely musical number.
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And then we go to Arthur Dent. Waking up in his small little house. Coming down the stairs. Going to brush his
Arthur's House and Key Interactions
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teeth. And realizing there is a construction crew or destruction crew outside his house come to bulldoze his home to make way for a bypass.
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Arthur Dent in you know instantly like, what the heck? You can't do this. This is my house. And he goes and lays in front of the bulldozers. The bulldozers are, you know, the the like head bulldozer guy is like, do you know how much damage this bulldozer would sustain if I let it roll over you?
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And Arthur Dent's like, no And the guy's like, none. yeah Had me cracking up. um And that's when suddenly Ford Prefect arrives and he convinces the construction crew, destruction crew, hold off.
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I'm going to take my buddy down the street. Can we all agree that, you know, like you're not going to be doing this today since he's laying here? Yeah, you agree? Okay, well then there's no point in him laying here anymore.
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So he hauls him down to the local pub and orders some beer and seems to be in a bit of a rush. Arthur, of course, is completely... but What's the word when you can't think of anything else? Like focused on the fact that his house is about to be destroyed.
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And I don't blame him. In the movie, I was like getting so frustrated because he it has this robe on the entire time. Yeah. He has his robe on because he like just woke up and he is um freaking out about his house and all this stuff.
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And Ford takes him immediately to ah the pub down the street or whatever. And he still has his robe on. And him in this entire movie having this robe on while all these events are happening had me so over simulated.
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I was like, please take the robe off. Give this man a polo or something. yeah There's no way this robe is not irritating you. Just having this robe on constantly.
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It's so funny because I think I read something that his robe was one of the most expensive costumes in the movie because it was made out of some expensive material or something. That's hilarious.
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Oh my gosh. I wonder how much like if people have tried to like, if they've tried to like auction off the robe or something from the movie. Oh, that'd be funny. I think it's really interesting. Arthur Dent is played by Martin Freeman, who we all know is also Bilbo Baggins, who reluctantly went on an adventure
Movie Cast and Performances
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So I think that that's kind of interesting and hilarious.
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Yeah. But, you know, this cast as a whole wild. Surprising to me. It's surprising and it's wild, right? And I'm going to, this is going to be my new go-to. I'm just going to read names and you're going deal with it.
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We have Martin Freeman, Sam Rockwell, Zooey Deschanel, Bill Nye, John Malkovich, Most Def, and then the voices of Alan Rickman, Helen Mirren, and Stephen Fry.
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yeah like and This is intense. The cast so told like in the very beginning of the movie. like It shows like the cast. And I saw Alan Rickman on there and I was like, who the hell is good his he playing on here?
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Who is Alan Rickman playing in this movie? And then him being the voice of Marvin. was like, perfect. The paranoid android? Yes. It is so perfection. And you know what's funny? Bill Nye and Martin Freeman were both in Love Actually together.
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And I had just watched Love Actually for the first time this past December. and the second I saw them together, I was like, oh my gosh. And if anyone wants to know, my experience with Love Actually was not the best. i Really? Okay.
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okay And i was like, oh no. then I saw Bill Nye. Well, Bill Nye, he's also the voice of Long Neck in Wild Robot.
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Well, I saw him and I was like thinking of him in love actually. you remember his part in that? And I was just started cracking up and I was like, oh my gosh. And then Sam Rockwell, I was thinking, I just know from Charlie's Angels.
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Oh God. You were Charlie's Angels. Nox, he played Nox. I can't. can't. Oh my gosh. I love Beats of Charlie's Angels.
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What can I say? That's fair. That's fair. I think Alan Rickman for the voice of Marvin the Paranoid Android was amazing. um And Warwick Davis was in the the Marvin costume and he...
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The the like motions and movements he made to to indicate just how like depressing Marvin was through the whole thing was just perfect. the like The hunch and the slumped shoulders and then the walking and just like like schlepping through the spaceship. It was just perfect. That's my favorite character.
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absolutely. So you really need to read the rest of the books. Yeah. I'm just saying. Yeah. I'm just saying. You really need to read the rest. That's literally my favorite. Marvin is amazing. The guy who did the voice of Eddie, the computer.
Douglas Adams' Script Alignment
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think his name is Thomas Lennon. He played Lieutenant Dangle in Reno 911. Yeah, I was going to say, he's from Reno 911. Mm-hmm.
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There's just so many great names in this cast. Even Deep Thought. ah the boy Helen Mirren. Yeah. Yeah. When I saw her name on the screen, I was like, wait a minute.
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I don't remember her in this movie. Yeah. And then I was like, oh, my gosh, there she is. please The script was also this the script was written by Douglas Adams.
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um It was one of the last things that he wrote before he died. And it was really important when filming this movie that they. stuck to the spirit of what he wrote is as much as possible. And you can tell, you can really tell that this lines up, although it does deviate from the book um a chunk, not so much from the overall tone and theme of the story. And so it's really, really well done. And with this cast, he specifically...
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Before he died, Douglas Adams had suggested Stephen Fry as the voice of the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy in the movie. It was on his list of, of you know, potentials.
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um And he absolutely insisted that it didn't matter the nationality of any of the cast except for Arthur Dent. Arthur Dent had to be British.
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And so I think Martin Freeman was an absolute top-notch choice. He just plays that, you know, just put out, put upon, whatever, is there any T, so perfectly.
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it just... It just worked. So there they are in the pub and Ford is trying to explain to Arthur that like, hey, the world's about to end. I'm getting you out of here. Drink these beers. It will help you with the transition into space.
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Eat these peanuts. this You're going to get dehydrated. You're going to eat the salt. Arthur's not hearing a word of it. He's like, whatever, dude. They're about to bulldoze my house. And he starts to run out.
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Ford snatches him up. And up they go onto a Vogon spaceship. Also, everyone in the bar, too, at that time is looking around like, what the hell? What are we going to do? Yeah. Should we put a bag over our head for this event? That's about to happen.
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And then Ford is like, yeah, sure. and they're like, is that going help? He's like, no. You're done.
Vogons and Guide Entries
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it's The way this the story is written, too, is so...
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Very flippant, you know, and there's a lot of little side pieces. Like this is a very satirical book with like little side bits of stories, little explanations, kind of similarly to The Princess Bride, how we had all those side stories that came in.
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But these, honestly, this is so much funnier than The Princess Bride. I love The Princess Bride. That's my jam. But there was a lot more romance and an action and adventure. Whereas in this one, it's just freaking hilarious.
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There's a lot of dumb. There's a lot of just like side bits that make no sense whatsoever. But I'm glad to know it now, you know. It's like the kind of thing you're just thrown in and you just need to go with the flow.
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And like there's no right, like. it's I mean, there is rhyme or reason to things, but it's like you just kind of have to go with it. Pretty much.
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In fact, in the... Oh, no. I think my mean little sticky tab just pulled off and it's the one that I needed. oh no. it's but Douglas Adams in one of the introductions in the book or one of the forewords in the book because there's like 19 if you get the right edition. Mm-hmm.
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Said, when in the twists and turns of the plot, some event suddenly seemed to illuminate things that had gone before, I was as surprised as anyone else. Yeah. And that's, he was just along for the ride when he rode it.
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And I love that. It makes it, to me, it's like he was discovering all this stuff right along with us. And you could kind of feel that. Almost magic. um He also wrote another series ah called Dirk Gently's holistic guy or Holistic Detective Agency, which did turn into a television show and that I think was on AMC. I could be wrong. Don't don't pay any attention to me. um But it's really good if you get the chance to watch it. And maybe one day we'll cover it, but it's a pretty long series, so maybe not.
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it's it it It is the same type of story as this, that same a million side stories that somehow end up coming together and tying together in ways that you didn't necessarily expect, but make sense when you get there.
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um And I loved that. So they're on the Vogon spaceship. The Vogons hate hitchhikers because they think they're freeloaders and the Vogons are very like, bureaucratic. They're not like inherently evil.
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um And we get to see, this is when we originally the first get introduced to the Hitchhiker's Guide, the actual book, because that's what the story is about, is the book, The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy.
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And Ford Prefect says, I am a writer for this, the Hitchhiker's Guide. I'm a field writer for the Hitchhiker's Guide. And I had been sent to Earth to update the the entry But I got stuck here. It was supposed to be a week. I've been here for 15 years.
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But now we're getting a chance to get out. So he shows the book directly to Arthur. And right on the front, it says in big, bold letters, don't panic.
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And somehow Arthur finds a little bit of comfort in that and opens it up and reads the – and we we get to read these entries kind of along with Arthur through the rest of the story, which is what makes it kind of fun, these little side pieces.
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And he learns that the Vogons are bureaucratic, you know, not not inherently evil, but definitely not nice either. And whatever you do, don't let them read you poetry. um Which, of course, is exactly what happens.
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These things are so ugly in this freaking movie. They look like giant walking boogers with faces. They're gross.
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And they've got like... Like warthog noses or something. Like a slimy upright walrus maybe? yeah like I literally hate them.
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They're gross. Every time saw them I'm like oh my god. They're disgusting. They make you feel gross. They remind me of some species on Doctor Who.
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Oh really? Did you know that Douglas Adams actually wrote four different storylines that crossed 13 episodes of Doctor Wrote co-wrote? 13 whole episodes of Doctor Who.
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He wrote stories for the fourth Doctor and the relaunch of Doctor Who. Isn't that exciting? And you can almost see it. You can kind of like see the Douglas Adams in those stories.
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So the Vogons are torturing Arthur and Ford with their poetry.
Vogon Poetry and Escape
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Arthur is somewhat unaffected because apparently Earth poetry is also kind of bad. So he was used to it.
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and convinces the vogon that like no i enjoyed it and like gives his analysis of the poetry or whatever and the vogon says nope not good enough you're still going out the airlock which this part in the movie i don't i've seen this movie a thousand times but when they're standing in the airlock and they're kind of waiting for it to open and we're standing in front of like the airlock door and the light is flashing but then it like instead of opening out, it like drops out from under them. Every time I forget that's going to happen, I crack up. I thought you were going to say that you jumped because I watched it with my sister and she jumped at that part.
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No, I just i forget it every time. It's new every time. Yeah. The part that cracks me up for that specific scene in the book and in the movie is whenever Ford, he's like look he's like, they're trying to figure out what to do whenever they're trapped in that thing.
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And he's like, well, what does this thing do? And he's like spinning it. And he's like, is that going to help us get out? He's like, no. no Yeah, we're done. It's very... i don't i don't know how to explain that it's just...
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It's full of those like silly moments. Yeah. Like you got a lot of fish part. It's got a lot of slapstick humor. It's got a lot of dry humor. Yeah. And that's favorite kind of humor too.
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It just ticks all the boxes. There's something to make everyone laugh at some point in this movie. Yeah, totally. Or in this book too. So at this point, this is where the movie and the book start to deviate a little bit.
Zaphod and Improbability Drive
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They're out in space. They're thrown out the airlock. But enter the galactic president, Zaphod Beeblebrox, because we needed weird names.
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And his, you know, Gal Friday, who's Zooey Deschanel, or Trillian. And they've he's stolen a spaceship that has and works on an improbability drive.
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And this is where I love sci-fi so much. and But this is so nonsense that it's just hilarious. Yeah. Basically, it's so improbable that they can force it to be real. I don't even understand.
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Either way, it was super improbable that Ford and Arthur would get rescued. And because they have the ship that functions on the improbability drive, they were able to catch them.
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At literally the last second. At the last second. And they end up on the ship, the Heart of Gold, ah the Hot Mess Express. And right off the bat, Ford is like, wait a minute, Zaphod Brebelbrok's I think I know that guy come on and so they start to head like find their way to the like I don't know somewhere on the ship find people and of course they come across Marvin who's basically clinically depressed he's like the he's like a he's a robot Eeyore and it's yeah the best but that's an excellent way to describe it he's just the best and
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And he says, come on, I'll i'll take you to to see Zaphod. And they go up there. And of course, Ford is like, Arthur, let me introduce you to my kind of cousin. And Arthur's like, I know that guy.
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We've met him. And of course, Zaphod's like, what do you mean He's like, we met at a fancy dress party. Don't you remember? You snatched the girl I was trying to chat up. And he was like, yeah, sounds like something I would do He also has two heads and a third arm.
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Can I say something? Yes. The way they did the heads in the movie was freaky and I didn't like it. I did not. I actually like I thought Zaphod in the book was like, he was like a jerk, but like in a funny way. Yeah.
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In the movie, he's a jerk in an obnoxious, annoying way. Yeah. And I don't like it. I agree. This is the one I don't think they... This is at the point in the movie where was like, I'm no longer enjoying the movie as much anymore.
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Yep. Like any part with, with, with Zephod in it, I was just kind of like, yeah. Yeah. i was like, you're like ruining the vibe. but Pretty much. It, it really was not.
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It's kind of like the difference between like the annoying guy at the party that steals your girl and because he's just smooth enough to steal your girl.
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and the annoying guy at the party who takes over the conversation with the girl And everybody else leaves because it's too awkward at this point. And that's how I felt about it.
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They were like turning his character into like this, um like a frat boy, obnoxious dude. Instead of like, like there is a line of annoying, funny guy.
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Where it could be too annoying. Where like we don't like this guy anymore. But like kind of annoying where he's kind of charming. Right. Does that make sense? Yes. And he was not charming in the movie. And I was like I don't like this guy. No. He was slightly charming in the movie.
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Or in the book but not in the movie. And I feel like in the movie they added a weird love interest with like the vice president of the galaxy. Yeah. Like she had a crush on him. And I was just like why? like ew Yeah. Ew.
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it just It just seemed not quite right, you know? Yeah. So, anyways, you know, we kind of realized that, like, Arthur knows this dude. This dude stole his the girl he was chatting up at the party. And then we see that the girl at the party that is Trillian is Trisha McMillan, who is now going by Trillian. Yeah.
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And she's like, oh, hey, Arthur. She does not know that the Earth has been destroyed. But as far as Arthur knows, they're the only two living Earth people left in the galaxy, in the universe at this point.
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And you can he kind of wants to tell her what happened. But in the movie, Zaphod says, hey, don't tell her yet. don't Kind of like threatens him that like if you tell her,
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you can't hang out on my ship anymore kind of thing. Like, a it was very – it didn't happen in the book. Not that. His, like, head is, like, coming out of his neck every, like, ten seconds. Yeah. Like, in the book, he had a right head and a left head.
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Yeah. And they talk about it because at one point he's, like, scratching his right chin with his left hand kind of thing, right? And in the movie, he had his head, his face, and then a second head that was kind of part of his – that was, like, his neck under his chin – It was yeah weird and I didn't like hear like Almost like an alter ego kind of thing. Yeah.
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He was always wearing scarves. And then like he would just like kick his head back or and throw his chin up and there'd be a second head under the scarf. It was very weird.
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Did not like that. o I don't understand. like it. And I don't know why they made that particular choice in the movie, but I wish they would go back and change it. Maybe it's easier.
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Maybe. That's all I could figure is that it had to be like easier to Yeah. to film ah Where are we? So we discover that he, that Zaphod Bebelbrox has stolen the ship because somehow he thinks that he that he has sent himself on a mission to find Magrathia, which is basically the earth equivalent of Atlantis, right? It's this mythical place that is only told in stories and in legends and
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It's a place where they built custom luxury planets. But it's, it's, nobody knows where it is because again, it's a myth, right? Nobody's heard of Magrathia in a million years.
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But Zaphod is convinced that it exists. It's convinced he, he's convinced he needs to find it and that he will be able to find the answer to life, the universe and everything when he does that.
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are or Ford is basically telling him, like, you're crazy, dude, but whatever. I'm along for the ride. Arthur,
Quest for Magrathia
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this point, just wants a good cup of tea and to figure out what he's supposed to do with the rest of his life at this point. And in the movie, he's, like, so obsessed with being with Zooey Deschanel.
00:29:07
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Yeah, that was, I feel like in the movie, they made it weird. Mm-hmm. Like, I'm not going to tell you I love this movie.
00:29:18
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It's... I love this franchise as a whole. Yeah. um I really love the books and the radio show. But this movie, to me, was just...
00:29:30
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A little off. You know. And in part because of Zaphod Beeblebrox. And in part because of the way they played off. The Arthur and Trillian. Relationship in the movie.
00:29:43
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And you know I love a romance. You know I love a romance. But I was like even me. I was like we don't need whatever you got going on here. It's weird. Yeah, because Arthur in the movie was like convinced that she was the one. After they had met at this party one time, he was like convinced that- It was the insta-love. Yeah, that he would have been happy forever with her.
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And that because she left, like she had made the wrong choice. Right? So they get on the ship and he kind of confronts her that like, oh, so if I had had a spaceship, you could have picked me.
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And she was like, don't be like that. And that that, like, that sore loser that it's very, it like, it's just screaming incel. You know? and Like, that whole, like, well, oh, so i if I had had two heads, would you have gone home with me too?
00:30:43
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Would you be running around with me too? Like... If I had two heads and three arms. Right? Like... Dude, that's just weird. Shut up. Yeah. And yet, Zooey Deschanel is like, don't be like that, Arthur.
00:30:57
Speaker
Like, she's just being really nice about it. Like, you know, it's okay. It's, you know, and I would have just been like, don't be a sore loser, you jerk.
00:31:07
Speaker
It was really awkward. And I would like, I feel like in the book, that is not at all how it was in the book. He was like, I met this girl. She was really cool. And I feel like we had a connection.
00:31:17
Speaker
But then that's kind of really where he leaves it. He doesn't. go on about how like he didn't have a picture of her and his phone that he kept looking at he didn't talk about how like it was a magical week that he knew of her existence or any weird like it was weird in the movie yeah totally uh at this point zaphod They push the button on the improbability drive. They end up someplace completely different in the movie.
00:31:50
Speaker
in In the book, they go straight to Magrathia from here, but we start getting more stories from the the actual Hitchhiker's Guide, right? They're telling us a little bit more details about things like the Pan-Galactic Gargle Blaster, the story behind Magrathia and how Magrathia was built, right?
00:32:08
Speaker
and But in the movie, we end up being chased by the Vogons, which is not what happens in the book. Yeah, the Vogons are, like, much more present in the movie.
00:32:20
Speaker
And then they end up going to a different planet altogether because... Zaphod has this beef with the guy who ran against him for the galactic presidency, who is a character called Hama Kavula, played by John Malkovich, who apparently is one of our new podcast favorites because he's been in what the last like, at least three or four books this movies this season. Yeah, I think.
00:32:47
Speaker
Yeah, at least three. At least three. I'm sure he's probably in four more that we didn't even consider. Yeah. He'll be in the future too, probably. right ah Join us next week when we watch John Malkovich again. like yeah Being John Malkovich.
00:33:06
Speaker
Hama Kavula is weird. This is in the book, but in the series at some point they discuss this, but it's not really in the first book. So I'm not entirely certain why they brought that into the Here, so much as they probably just wanted to fill for time, maybe, or or add a few more big names. I'm not sure.
00:33:27
Speaker
Either way, he's this menacing clergyman who doesn't have any legs or eyes, but he wears glasses that make it look like he has eyes. That was freaky when he took his glasses off.
00:33:40
Speaker
yeah And basically tells Zaphod, I can give you the coordinates to Magrithia, but... but you have to get a gun for me when you get there.
00:33:52
Speaker
Again, this gun is not in the first book. Telling you about it is not ruining any of the other books. It's not really a spoiler. So I understand why they like worked it in here to give us a little bit more.
00:34:07
Speaker
but it also didn't really change the story any to add it. like I feel it didn't add anything to the storyline. Well, it changed the storyline in the movie. Yeah. But like, but I don't think it made the storyline better in the movie.
00:34:21
Speaker
Like the side quest. Because they still ended up in the same places for the same reasons, plus another thing to do. So I'm not really certain why they added, brought it into this particular movie.
00:34:33
Speaker
They didn't make other movies. So whatevs. Well, the gun was used to like end all the Vogons whenever they came to attack. Right.
00:34:45
Speaker
That was like the whole ending. The Vogons didn't attack in the book. Yeah. So I think they had to like use it. ah guess. But so he he goes, he gets the coordinates to Magrithia. He promises Hama Kavula that he's going to bring him the gun.
00:34:59
Speaker
Hama gives him the coordinates to Magrithia. They go back to the ship. But Hama has insisted that he's going to have to hold Zaphod's second head as collateral. Which is so weird. It's so weird. They cut off his head from his neck. They cut off his head from his neck and it's on a bobblehead at Hama's place.
00:35:20
Speaker
And they go back to the ship with the coordinates to Magrithia. But now Zaphod only has half of his brain because apparently it had been split in two with the two heads.
00:35:31
Speaker
I don't understand. Mm-hmm. And so now they've got to get to Magrathia, but the Vogons have caught up with him, what caught up with them, and they've managed to capture Trillian.
00:35:43
Speaker
So Arthur's like, I'm not going anywhere. We've got to save Trillian. Like Ford's like, okay, yeah, dude, let's go save Trillian. But of course, Zaphod's bonkers.
00:35:54
Speaker
So they take the shuttle. Which is just like a tiny little red version of the Heart of Gold. And they go to the Vogon planet that I can't remember the name of.
00:36:07
Speaker
Probably just Vogon. Yeah, i don't remember the name of it either. And they have to go through the like all the bureaucratic red tape to get Trillian out. But like Arthur's like, oh, I'm British.
00:36:20
Speaker
We know how to cue. Hold up, guys. He's like, I haven't contributed anything to this party until this moment. And he did. ah Like a true British king. Well, maybe not a British king.
00:36:34
Speaker
A short king. He's a hobbit. So he was over there, like in that line with all the forms, this form, that form. Oh, I need this one. That's like, and he, and he got Trillian out.
00:36:46
Speaker
He did it. Yeah. Does Trillian say thank you? No, because she had just found out that the earth had exploded and she was all like, you weren't going to tell me. And then she found out that Zaphod is the one who ordered it. So she was like, and you did this to me.
00:37:02
Speaker
and I'm an orphan. It was because he thought they wanted like his signatures. Yeah, it said hugs and kisses or or something like that. Like XOXO, Gossip Girl. Ridiculous.
00:37:15
Speaker
ah She was like, you destroyed my planet because you thought someone wanted your autograph. ah so she's mad at everybody and I don't blame her but you know Arthur's all like what about me because he's that guy in this movie none of this part is in Trillian getting kidnapped yeah that's not in the book right but now they've gone but the like vice president of the galaxy is like but we have to get the president back it's it's weird
00:37:49
Speaker
Yeah, I don't understand that whole storyline. Nobody does. It's okay. um read them Read the next books. There's this scene after they rescue Trillian where she's taking the shower on the ship and she needs the towel.
00:38:07
Speaker
And she uses Arthur's towel that he's been carrying with him because every hitchhiker needs a good towel. And she uses it to wipe her face. And I was just like, ew.
00:38:18
Speaker
the When she asked for a towel, she's like, can you hand me a towel? And he just hands her the one that's been over his shoulder. This whole time. The that's gone through, that's been shot at, that's gone through different plants. Space. That was in a Vogon ship, that was on the beach, that was like, it's just gross.
00:38:35
Speaker
And you're going to use that to put on your clean body? No. I would have looked right at and been like, a different towel, please. Okay, but then she used it. And did you notice that he still was carrying it after she used it?
00:38:48
Speaker
Yep. Yep. I was also disturbed by that. i was like, he's still carrying it around after she used it. Mm-hmm.
00:38:58
Speaker
So, yeah. so the word disturbed it's just you know i don't understand i don't understand i was a good towel he needed a good towel pretty much and he's still got that damn robe on take the robe off i'm like literally just witnessing it i was upsetting me i was like oh my gosh i just know it's had a cozy robe that you just wanted to live in Okay, but like running around like yeah you're sweating and everything, trying to get to different places, saving people, ah yeah tripping over it. I know you're tripping on that string because it's not closed. Yeah, he didn't tie it closed or nothing. like Yeah.
00:39:41
Speaker
No. Yeah. Absolutely not. So now they're on their way to Magrathia, which is where like this whole little side quest bit, none of that is in the first book that we read. None of the Hamakavula, none of the Kidnapped by the Vogons, none of that.
00:39:55
Speaker
So now we're back to the book and the and the movie kind of lined back up. They're on their way to Magrithea. And we hear about how the Magrithians, which wasn't really the Magrithians in the book that did this, but it works for the movie.
00:40:10
Speaker
million years ago, couple million years ago, designed a supercomputer. Like the most amazing computer in the galaxy that was the strongest, fastest, smartest computer that was ever made. And they named it Deep Thought.
00:40:25
Speaker
And they designed this computer with the sole purpose of finding the answer the life, universe, and everything. Right? And so when they turn this computer on and they, oh, Deep Thought, they talk all fancy to it and they say, can you give us the answer? Deep Thought thinks about it for a minute and goes, yeah, come back in seven and a half million years.
00:40:50
Speaker
Right? So Deep Thought thinks for seven and a half million years, these people all come at sort the when it's time's up and they're ready to go.
00:41:02
Speaker
And they say, okay do you have the answer? And they're like, Deep Thought's like, you're not going to like it. Are you sure you want it? don't think you do. Thought is a character. Yeah. Deep Thought is a character. Yeah.
00:41:17
Speaker
deep thought is a character A deep thought says, well, the answer to life, universe, and everything is 42.
00:41:30
Speaker
And everybody's just like, 42? What does that even mean? And deep thought's like, well, you didn't ask me that. You didn't ask ultimate question. Right. i Like, you just wanted the answer. i got you the answer. and so they're like, well, can you help us find the question?
00:41:46
Speaker
and Deep Thought is like, no, I can't. But I can design a computer that can. And the computer that I designed for this is going to be so complex that even life itself is going to make up some of its computational matrix.
00:42:01
Speaker
And they're like, okay, let's do it. So then they're like Deep Thoughts like come back in 10 million years and I'll have the designs ready for you. Also, Deep Thought explains the significance of the number 42 at 42 minutes into the movie.
00:42:17
Speaker
I didn't catch that. What? Oh, I didn't catch that. Well, right Deep Thought designs basically the Earth. Yeah.
00:42:30
Speaker
And that is how the earth was created. end of story. No. And then they destroyed it. And then the Vogons came along and destroyed it five minutes before the program was to be completed, before the question was supposed to be answered. Five
Earth's Role and Mice
00:42:47
Speaker
minutes before they would have known everything they needed to know.
00:42:51
Speaker
But how would they have known, you ask? How would these... pan-dimensional intergalactic beings have known the question if they weren't on Earth. Well, guess what?
00:43:03
Speaker
They were. They were on Earth the whole time doing experiments on us as mice. It just, like, kept getting so extra.
00:43:15
Speaker
I'm telling you. That's literally, that's what makes us, like, it was really good because every single time I'm like, oh my gosh, this is just so insane. Where is this going to go? How could this get any weirder? yeah how could it get more bizarre, more bonkers?
00:43:30
Speaker
Like, actually, everything's controlled by mites. The interdimensional pan galactic mice. but From what I understood, from what I can tell, they were actually, they were not mice. They just showed up on Earth as mice. Like that was their, like, their, their way that they presented in this dimension.
00:43:53
Speaker
I, that's the way I read it. Yeah. And Trillian has her two white mice with her, her pet mice. That she brought from Earth. That she brought from Earth um with her.
00:44:06
Speaker
And so, you know, that's we've had pets live. We've had pets die. We've had pets get nearly demolished, thrown in trunks.
00:44:17
Speaker
We've we've we've had run the gamut on pets, but this is the first time we've had pets that actually were our creators. This is the first.
00:44:27
Speaker
This is the first. i guess This is an interesting season, folks.
00:44:34
Speaker
This is our first mice, too. so yeah true. We did have a hamster. We did have a hamster. We had a hamster. Which is like mice adjacent.
00:44:44
Speaker
Yep, yep. So the mice are on the ship, but they've escaped, and Trillian's a little upset about it. But now they're on Magrathia, so she'll come back and figure it out later. And they go looking for, well, in the movie, they go looking for deep thought to find the gun that they promised Hama Kabula.
00:45:08
Speaker
But in the book, they're looking just for any answers on Magrathia. Zaphod thinks there's answers here. Well, the Magrathian planet, they find it and it's, it's closed for business. It's been closed because of the, the galactic economy couldn't support luxury planets anymore.
00:45:28
Speaker
That was just a, it was It was basically a luxury commodity that the economy no longer needed or could support.
Magrathia and the Whale Incident
00:45:36
Speaker
So they closed down the planet.
00:45:38
Speaker
um And there was like a security system that like said, you know, thanks for stopping by, but nobody's here. Leave a number. We'll get back to you when we reopen. And of course they didn't leave. and then they were like, we're really glad you're enthusiastic about seeing us we are too we're sending you some welcoming presents and it's um nuclear missiles uh and so they hit the button and the the improbability drive button and the missiles turn into a giant sperm whale and a pot of petunias like what the hell is is going on those poor petunias
00:46:16
Speaker
Those poor petunias. What was it they they said they said? Not this again. was the only thing that went through the the mind of the petunias. We also get to see what went through the mind of the whale in the book and in the movie, which I thought was really good.
00:46:28
Speaker
ah Didn't end well for the whale. No. Poor whale. Poor whale.
00:46:37
Speaker
So, thank goodness, though, that in the book, the crashing whale is what opened, like, Collapse the entrance into the interior of the planet for them to get into.
00:46:51
Speaker
We didn't have to look at that in the movie. Thank you. ah I'm okay with that change. And instead they just find some weird like vortex dimensional they I don't know what that Like portal. Portal. Yeah.
00:47:08
Speaker
And they go through that. But. Arthur is going to hang out on the surface with Marvin. Just to keep an eye out on things, I guess. While everybody else goes hunting for the Magrithians.
Slarty Bartfast and Mice's Plan
00:47:23
Speaker
of course means Arthur finds one. Well, they find Arthur. And this is when Bill Nye comes in as Slurdy Bartfest.
00:47:34
Speaker
I'm happy you got to say it. Were you afraid of it? It's one of my favorite. mean, it's You said you listened the audio. You knew what it was. Slarty Bartfast. In the book and in the movie, he kind of doesn't want to say his name.
00:47:51
Speaker
You can tell that he's not exactly thrilled by his own name, so he doesn't want to say it. I think that's hilarious. um And Slarty Bartfast is basically like, let me take you on a tour of the factory floor.
00:48:01
Speaker
And so they jump in the little, like, mover thing. In the movie, this looks so fun. It really did. It looked like the greatest roller coaster ever. Yeah, like, i i would go on that.
00:48:15
Speaker
I would totally go that. And it was going fast. It was flying. And Arthur Dent is... Just kind of like getting the the long and short of the story of like, these are the planets that we've created. And he sees that they're making Earth.
00:48:34
Speaker
They're making, he's like, you made Earth? And they're like, well, this is Earth 2. Because they ruined the first one, the stupid Vogons. And from here, Slarty Bartfast kind of takes Arthur The other half of the crew, Ford and Trillian and Zaphod, have been rounded up as well and dumped them into this room with big dinner and a whole bunch of food and mice on the table.
00:49:05
Speaker
And the mice explained that like, you know, yes, we're the, you know, the, we created the earth to be part of our experiment and it was destroyed just five minutes before we had the answer. But since you were there, Arthur, we can get the answer from you.
00:49:25
Speaker
And he was like, I don't have the answer. And they're like, we're pretty sure you do. and like trillion and zaphat and ford are like yeah dude like help them out as best you can like you know they they sunk all this money and time into this experiment and and arthur's like well i don't think i can help i don't know well we just need your brain and that's when it's like wait what um And they were going to just like take his brain.
00:49:55
Speaker
um And of course he freaks out. They fight the mice. um They try to escape. And in the movie, this is when the Vogons catch up with them and they have to escape the Vogons.
00:50:07
Speaker
In the book, it's just a couple of galactic soldiers that like pin them in but This is kind of my like favorite story. Marvin moment.
00:50:18
Speaker
Because like these soldiers pin them in like in this spot in the hallway or something, where there's one on each side, and they can't really get out. And they're kind of trying to talk to the soldiers about like, do you even really want to do this? do You know, like, they're trying to talk their way out of it.
00:50:34
Speaker
And it's not working. And the soldiers, you know, occasionally fire and they stop and they fire and they talk and they fire and they talk. And then suddenly they stop talking and they stop firing. And so one of them kind of like peeks out.
00:50:49
Speaker
There's still no fire. So they go to check. And suddenly this galactic soldier police dude is just dead. He's just dead. The like atmospheric.
00:51:00
Speaker
gas mask thing that he was wearing to breathe shut down for no reason. They
Marvin's Resolution
00:51:07
Speaker
go find the other soldier. Same thing. And they're like, well, these gas mask things are like controlled by their ship. There's no reason they should have stopped. They have so many fail safes to make sure this doesn't happen.
00:51:21
Speaker
How did that freaking happen? they're like, you know what? Let's just not let's not question our good fortune at this point. Let's get out of here. And so yeah so while that's going on in the book, the mice come up with the question.
00:51:35
Speaker
Oh, yeah. Without taking Arthur's brain. And in in the movie, Arthur comes up with the question and gives it to the mice. But it's not the real question. It's just a question. Right. They're going to use it.
00:51:47
Speaker
They're going to use it. They're going to go with it. It's not a bad one. How many roads must a man walk, Tom? Forty-two.
00:51:59
Speaker
And I don't know what that's supposed to mean. But that's sufficient for all the philosophers. So there you go. Isn't that like a Bob Marley song or something? I don't know. Maybe. Probably.
00:52:11
Speaker
Possibly. So they're hightailing it out of there after those two soldiers die. And they go running up to the Heart of Gold. But there's the the like police, intergalactic police ship is next to the Heart of Gold.
00:52:24
Speaker
And they realize that the ship is basically dead. like it's There's no lights going on on it. It's not like... Hovering correctly or whatever. Like they can just tell that the ship is not functioning.
00:52:38
Speaker
And of course, here comes Marvin. And they were like, Marvin, come on, let's get. And he was like, the ship wouldn't. Tried talking to the ship. Nobody wants to talk to me. And they were like, what?
00:52:52
Speaker
was like, I was talking to the ship. and And it just just shut itself off.
00:53:00
Speaker
pressed the ship and the ship suicided. oh my gosh. And it was hilarious. I was scared in the movie. I thought that Marvin was going to die.
00:53:11
Speaker
no he can't die. Well, it scared me for a second. i was like, oh my gosh, don't do this to poor Marvin. He's safe. He's safe. I promise.
00:53:22
Speaker
And so they get on the ship, the heart of gold. And Zaphod says, you guys hungry? And it's kind of the same in the book and in the movie when they're just like, well, I've got reservations, the restaurant at the end of the universe. And.
00:53:41
Speaker
That's it. That's the end. And then they start driving or flying to the wrong side of the universe. Yeah, was going to say, I love that in the movie. Marvin's like, I don't want to, you know, be downer here, but isn't it at the other end? I know you don't want to listen to me, but... I love, you know, and we didn't talk about it, but like the ship, the Heart of Gold has like genuine people personalities So like the doors open with a like satisfactory sigh. Yeah. And the doors open and the ship's like computer is like, but you can call me Eddie.
00:54:22
Speaker
I can help you. I can answer any of your questions. Well, hey, guys, how are you today? And it's just over the top annoying. And then we have Marvin over here is like one of the original prototypes of the genuine people personalities. And that's why he's just super different.
00:54:37
Speaker
Yeah. I love it. Yeah. I love it. So what did we think of a movie, guys? I already told you how I felt. The movie was okay. Yeah. I definitely like the book a lot more.
00:54:48
Speaker
Honestly, reading this was really... loved reading this because i feel like there's so much reference to it in pop culture in general. Tons and tons. And I feel like I'm finally getting to... I mean,
Pop Culture Influence
00:55:04
Speaker
i kind of understood some references, but I'm finally getting like the whole gist of those references. Like...
00:55:13
Speaker
Especially like the answer 42 being the answer to everything. And like also like just like different references in pop culture. Like, you know, Radioheads, Paranoid Android. yeah um On the album, OK Computer.
00:55:26
Speaker
There was like the trillion trillion instant messaging app. Yep. The Babelfish. Yeah. The first a free online translator. Yeah. Also, the maiden voyage of the Falcon Heavy rocket that That guy put his fancy ass car in.
00:55:45
Speaker
I'm not going to say his name. I don't like him. Yeah. But yeah that he put in the car a towel, a copy of The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, and across the dash they wrote, Don't Panic.
00:55:58
Speaker
So, you know there's so much. This is i don't want to say it's influenced pop culture because it hasn't really changed the way we live, but we all obviously loved this.
00:56:09
Speaker
You know, there's there's a ton out there that references it, that it spoke to people. People found enjoyment in this. And it's really lovely. In fact, coming up here soon, May 25th, this year it's a Sunday, but every year it's on May 25th is towel day.
00:56:27
Speaker
And i will be celebrating by taking my towel with me. I'll probably drink 42 Panglil. Oh no, I would not. I would die. But you know, I'm going to have a good time. Not 42. Don't celebrate that hard.
00:56:41
Speaker
ah But I'm going to have a good time. And and I feel like it's a It's a wonderful kind of legacy that Douglas Adams has left us that we see everywhere.
00:56:57
Speaker
Yeah. Wait, Lindsay, what did you say? Did you like the book or the movie more? I think I liked the book more. Yeah. Everybody likes the book more. Well, you never know.
00:57:08
Speaker
you know, Carrie. Yeah. Sometimes I throw it for a loop. I will say if you get the chance to listen to the original, the BBC ah radio show, it's really enjoyable. It's in, it's out there. Like I'm pretty sure I got it on.
00:57:27
Speaker
Maybe I got it on ah audible. I don't remember, but it's, it's, it's out there to find it's available and it's really, really enjoyable. Uh,
00:57:38
Speaker
Of course, the audiobook read by Stephen Fry, there's a couple other versions of the audiobook as well. They're really good. So there's a lot out there. to lot of different ways to enjoy this.
00:57:50
Speaker
ah And that are probably better than the movie. Yeah. And that's the tea. the the The BBC television show is actually really good too.
00:58:02
Speaker
that's oh yeah, I have heard that before. I've seen bits and pieces from it. So that's that's my ah that's my thoughts on that. Which brings us to our question of the episode, which is, if you could have a luxury planet designed to your specifications, what would be the feature or features that you want most?
Luxury Planets Discussion
00:58:26
Speaker
me, for instance, I would like a planet that had like the perfect climate for storing art and books without having to, you know, use a bajillion different archival papers or climate controlled rooms. Like I want the planet to be the climate controlled room.
00:58:44
Speaker
And maybe I could store some wine there too. What do you think Carrie?
00:58:50
Speaker
Would, what would my planet have? I think my planet would be all woods, just all woods, my entire planet, all woods.
00:59:02
Speaker
And I would have.
00:59:06
Speaker
oh Lord, would just have that like where everyone has to like I just want all like to build my house. Everyone has to build their houses in the woods like it's all woods. And it would only that ho-a-ho weather.
00:59:37
Speaker
That's really funny because from my planet, I want weather controlled by reader's mood. So if you're reading like a thriller, you can have like a thunderstorm.
00:59:48
Speaker
Or if you're reading a romance, you can have sunny. you're reading Twilight, you just go to Carrie's planet. You have hoa, hoa, hoa. but just have thunderstorms all the time.
01:00:02
Speaker
and occasionally a person sparkles. Really? Yeah, exactly. This is the skin of a killer pillow. Done. Done. And we're out. It was nice knowing you.
01:00:16
Speaker
yeah When in doubt, Carrie will make a Twilight reference in an episode. I can't. I can't. Let's wrap it up,
Outro and Social Media Call
01:00:26
Speaker
ladies. Nailed it.
01:00:31
Speaker
The minute Carrie talks about Twilight, I'm like, it thanks for joining us. I'm sorry. immediately cut off honestly just ends the episode no outro oh and well there is an outro i wrote one okay it's short it's easy are you ready are you ready you good okay okay
01:00:55
Speaker
Okay, I got So thanks for joining us this week as we navigated the goat rodeo that is the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy. We hope you'll be here next week when we cover Night Bitch, the plot of which has me both shocked and somewhat excited.
01:01:10
Speaker
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01:01:23
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We make a lot of faces. A lot of gestures. Talk with our hands. Yep. yeah You never know. ah Whatever you do, don't forget your towel.
01:01:36
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