I talk with Nate Matteson of DePaul University's School of Design and the industrial design company Obstructures. Nate's company Obstructures makes aluminum guitars, wallets, pedals, and many many other useful tools. In addition to that, and most importantly, Nate is an excellent design educator and brings his practice into academia to help elevate his students' potential in design. In this session, we talk about Nate's personal projects related to sound and light, his work with Obstructures, and how that way of thinking translates into education.