Joe Spanier is one of the co-founders of River City Labs -- a Peoria makerspace. He's also a co-founder of Midwest Maker Fest, a previous employee at Aleph Objects (the company that makes Lulzbot printers), and Caterpillar. Joe and I have a wide-ranging talk about tech in education, his enthusiasm for making and tinkering, and more. A note: The audio for this interview may be off in parts. The recording software that I use had some issues synching audio up, and so this was done manually. Enjoy!