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Episode 176 - Crimson & Clover
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This week on the premier comedy roller coaster podcast Ben and Zach discuss the new roller coaster coming to Six Flags Great Adventure, Nostalgic roller coaster video games and much more!
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Nostalgia for Early Gaming
00:00:01
Zach
I'm Zach, and I'm old enough to remember when 20 bucks could get you an obscene amount of food at Taco Bell.
00:00:10
Ben
I'm Ben and I'm having a little bit of a age crisis myself after playing Tony Hawk Pro Skater remastered 3 plus 4.
00:00:23
Ben
The music though the same though, which is fun, but know. fun but ah
00:00:29
Zach
Which is a very old person thing to say.
00:00:32
Zach
ah
00:00:32
Ben
that's
00:00:35
Ben
ah know Also, the remastered version of it is basically they just used AI to like bump the resolution and add you know new content.
00:00:48
Ben
um Songs are also insanely censored. like Words that don't need to be censored are censored.
00:00:58
Zach
Oh good, it's the Walmart version.
00:01:00
Ben
Yeah. Yeah.
00:01:02
Ben
I don't know. I don't know if it was worth the money, but I played it for 20 minutes. had my fun.
00:01:09
Ben
Did you ever play that game with... ah This was a pretty big cultural thing in our age, I feel like, too. we
00:01:17
Zach
Of course.
00:01:17
Ben
I mean, that was like that was like one of the biggest games in high school, I remember.
00:01:22
Zach
Yeah, I played the original Tony Hawk Pro Skater on N64. Because Because that's how old I am.
00:01:31
Ben
And that's the version that was, you only had two minutes to basically do as many challenges as you could.
00:01:37
Zach
i think so.
00:01:38
Ben
There was no free skate.
00:01:40
Zach
ah i can't recall.
00:01:44
Ben
Yeah. I think that was the first one where it also came, dude, it came in a demo.
00:01:45
Zach
But...
00:01:50
Ben
It was like a demo game that came with a, like dominoes or something at one point or a cereal box.
00:01:59
Zach
It's a good game.
00:02:01
Ben
Yeah, remember the PlayStation demo discs?
00:02:04
Zach
Yeah. um I never had a PlayStation though, so they were never of... like i they i would see them and I'd be like, oh, those those look fun. Because you know Nintendo had cartridges, you'd never get shit like that.
00:02:19
Ben
Yeah.
00:02:23
Ben
I mean...
00:02:24
Zach
Again, as a Nintendo kid, yes, Spyro and Tomb Raider, all that looked pretty cool. Just out of reach.
00:02:34
Ben
Yeah, I remember too, like, even thinking as a kid that I thought N64 looked better than PlayStation. And that was always like in a that was always a debate between the two consoles.
00:02:47
Zach
Well, yeah, I mean, i did I did play a good amount of GoldenEye and Banjo-Kazooie and Super Mario 64 and Diddy Kong Racing, so, you know.
00:02:51
Ben
Yeah.
00:02:55
Ben
Yeah.
Evolution of Gaming Consoles
00:02:58
Ben
Well, yeah, that first year it felt like every single home, everyone, I pretty much, well, not everybody, but a lot of people I knew, it seemed like everybody had that council.
00:03:08
Zach
The goddamn cool kids had that console.
00:03:11
Ben
Yeah. We had the fucking count. We had it when it came out. i was always, i remember like even, even as a six year old being shocked that my parents actually bought that for Christmas.
00:03:23
Ben
Yeah. Tendo has a good grip on the culture, unlike other councils, I think.
00:03:29
Zach
Yeah, i
00:03:30
Ben
I mean, I don't know about nowadays. I don't know what the fuck. all this I see all this shit with the Switch, but I've never picked one up in my life.
00:03:38
Zach
I've played a Switch. It's fine. You can play the old games on it, which does and it'll play the N64 games with better graphics right in your hand.
00:03:49
Ben
Yeah.
00:03:50
Zach
Which, yeah again, old enough, I was there when N64 originally came out, so to have it look better and the entire console is in your hand is like, this is crazy.
00:04:08
Ben
Yeah, I mean, that's cool. I guess the thing with the Switch, though, is that at what point do video games just become like a mini tablet with an emulator on it?
00:04:22
Zach
Yes.
00:04:23
Ben
that's kind of what That's kind of what the Switch seemed like, where you have to go to the cloud to download games. There's no Which, or whatever, that makes obviously makes more sense, but still. There's no there's no more defined lines with gaming consoles anymore. Everything is just a computer that where you go onto the internet and download the games, and you don't own it.
00:04:44
Zach
Correct.
00:04:45
Ben
Yeah.
00:04:46
Zach
Except for that system that Soulja Boy was selling.
00:04:50
Ben
Wait, what was that?
00:04:51
Zach
It was a knockoff Chinese um Game Boy that had like all the knockoff games in it.
00:05:03
Zach
It was just funny because it was Soulja Boy and he was like out there hawking them like on fucking Hot Ones and know Hot 100 Breakfast Club and shit. breakfast club and shit
00:05:11
Ben
Wait, when was this?
00:05:14
Zach
I don't know, 10 years ago.
00:05:15
Ben
Oh, okay.
00:05:16
Zach
I'm old. i Fuck. Make me own up to it so many times. God damn it.
00:05:21
Ben
Well, because I see one photo where it looks like it's a it's a Game Boy Advanced.
00:05:30
Ben
Like handheld.
00:05:34
Ben
And then... I, it kind of looks like a switch, I guess. There's like a handheld version then there's the console. But okay, weird.
00:05:47
Zach
Yeah, he he went on a full-blown promo like press tour to try and sell those.
00:05:58
Zach
It was... i mean, I'm also old enough to have been there when Soulja Boy was originally doing his thing.
00:06:07
Ben
Yeah. Yeah. Do you remember? Okay. So this is another like nineties thing, but do you remember the, what was it? The Zavix gaming council?
00:06:20
Zach
No. what What? what
00:06:23
Ben
It was on any, uh, any Nickelodeon show. So like, have you ever watched like really old Nickelodeon reruns? Like, um, Well, what's funny about this is that I remember watching these reruns 20 years ago that were old reruns of Nickelodeon shows like Double Dare and stuff. But they were always, you know, it was like every participant gets a Zavix console. It's an advanced video game, whatever.
00:06:51
Ben
I don't know when it was from. Maybe it's maybe it's the late 90s. Yeah. but
00:06:55
Zach
if it's double dead, then its it might be from the eighty s
00:06:59
Ben
I know it was 90s for sure because I remember seeing these things inside of Walmart, but it's a thing that I never saw anybody ever own. It's, a yeah, Zavix. It was almost like a Wii.
00:07:15
Ben
Like the like early version of the Wii because it had sports games. There was like bowling that had an actual bowling ball controller and like a baseball with an actual bat. Yeah.
00:07:30
Zach
many TVs would have been broken.
00:07:30
Ben
Yeah. Yeah. yeah Huh. Yeah, the Zavix. Hold on, I gotta see when this was one this was out. Okay, so this was 2004.
00:07:43
Ben
So this was only... yeah this was like only two years and before the Wii. Interesting.
00:07:52
Ben
Yeah, I just remember it was like, ah i don't know, a long time ago watching like Nickelodeon reruns and They were like selling these things or giving them away to the audience or whatever.
00:08:10
Zach
It's like, can it run Rollercoaster Tycoon? No.
00:08:15
Zach
it can run Lee Carvello's putting challenge.
00:08:15
Ben
The, uh,
00:08:22
Ben
I'm gonna look this up quick. Oh, dude, it was totally the Wii.
00:08:25
Ben
Wow.
00:08:26
Zach
That's probably why we never heard of it, because Nintendo probably like bought the company.
00:08:33
Ben
Yeah, maybe that's, maybe, shit, maybe that's exactly what happened.
00:08:37
Ben
Radio Shack, Toys R Us, Best Buy.
00:08:42
Zach
Yeah, success story after success story there.
00:08:49
Ben
Crazy Dreamcast. That one was a fun one.
00:08:54
Zach
Dreamcast, ah you know, like that. I'm pretty sure that was the first console that had like Internet connectivity.
00:09:04
Ben
Yeah.
00:09:04
Zach
But like it was like 1999. So like you couldn't play against somebody else in real time or anything.
00:09:14
Ben
For some reason, the Dreamcast seems like a council Rob Alvey would be playing in like the mid-2000s still.
00:09:22
Zach
yeah well I mean, that would make, that would yeah, that that really checks out for some weird reason. Like, he'd be, like, bragging about it like it was a flex.
00:09:36
Zach
Like, oh, no, like, the games are like, really good and the graphics are a little bit, like, just sharper.
00:09:43
Ben
Yeah, well, I do remember the the Dreamcast out of like the PlayStation, the N64, Dreamcast definitely did have the best graphics. It also had, um yeah, it also that online player thing, but I think just like, whatever, hd DVD versus Blu-ray, I think it just was like, you know, hit it entered the market at the wrong time.
00:10:08
Zach
Yeah, it was ahead of its time.
00:10:11
Ben
Yeah, it was it was like two years too late to be successful compared to N64 and PlayStation. But then two years too late for a lot. I don't know. I don't know what I'm trying to say. But yeah, it just it hit the wrong time. Because then it was like a year later, then suddenly PlayStation 2 came out.
00:10:33
Ben
And then suddenly the whole console was obsolete.
00:10:37
Zach
And that was the last console that Sega ever made.
00:10:40
Ben
Yeah.
00:10:42
Zach
Because I had a Genesis before N64 came out, and i liked it and I liked that a lot.
00:10:48
Ben
Yeah, the Genesis was cool. I remember playing that at my grandma's house.
Social Media and Online Communities
00:10:55
Zach
Yeah, I remember bugging all the Sonic games and Echo the Dolphin.
00:11:04
Zach
I'm trying to remember. but There was like an Aladdin game I think I had.
00:11:08
Ben
Yep, i remember that.
00:11:13
Zach
yeah I don't know. I remember my sister and I played it a lot and it was fun. Always had a good time.
00:11:22
Ben
Oh, yeah, I'm just looking through this shit. Oh, yeah, dude, the the Dreamcast had, yeah, the Dreamcast graphics were actually pretty good.
00:11:34
Ben
That was the one thing I never liked about PlayStation. PlayStation graphics looked...
00:11:40
Ben
Like if you had a big TV, just like super pixelated and ah like lines and texture were wasn't very defined. Everything was almost blurry.
00:11:52
Zach
Well, I mean, that shit was made for tube TVs, right? So, like,
00:12:00
Zach
it kind of makes sense.
00:12:05
Ben
Holy shit, yeah. Some of these Dreamcast games are...
00:12:09
Zach
Those tube TVs were crazy.
00:12:12
Ben
Did you ever try to play ah like an n NES on one of those old school... um You know those like like the Boomer big screen TV where the screen was almost like cardboard because it was projection?
00:12:31
Zach
Yeah.
00:12:31
Ben
And it had the really big back, like the whole, the entire thing was like six feet away from the wall because of how big the back piece was to it or like the whole back section. And then the screen was like a, almost like a flimsy kind of felt like cardboard or like a, like it was like a plastic like sheet.
00:12:51
Ben
And those TVs, you try to put an NES up to that thing. And one pixel was like, I don't know that it was like a two by two inch pixel. per game, and you try to play.con on it, and it's just, you could point in any direction, the thing would hit.
00:13:06
Zach
You just have to be in the right, like, quadrant.
00:13:10
Ben
Yeah.
00:13:14
Zach
Fuck. Well, um, welcome back to your favorite coaster sucks. We're an all roller coaster podcast, obviously, but we'll sometimes delve into the topic of, uh, nostalgic gaming question mark.
00:13:36
Ben
I mean, gaming and coasters are fairly similar.
00:13:41
Zach
I mean, there's a lot of overlap, I'd say.
00:13:45
Ben
Yeah, I mean.
00:13:45
Zach
had an Xbox once I got to high school, but that's kind of where I stopped playing games so much.
00:13:52
Ben
Yeah.
00:13:54
Zach
Although i would I would play No Limits a lot in high school.
00:13:58
Ben
Yeah, No Limits and Roller Coaster Tycoon was probably the only game I've i've played my entire life frequently.
00:14:09
Zach
Yeah. um Same. Yeah. And I remember literally, it's crazy. I remember playing the original No Limits 1.
00:14:22
Zach
like I remember when 1.2 came out and you could build fucking wooden coasters and it was amazing. And I also remember when it was just RCT1 and the expansion packs and when RCT2 came out and how crazy and awesome that was.
00:14:41
Ben
Yeah, the banked, sloped pieces. Yeah.
00:14:46
Zach
That, the ride types and the like, to me, the like licensed six flags thing was so cool.
00:14:57
Ben
Yeah, it didn't feel, ah yeah, it was done actually pretty well because it didn't feel like cheap or like a money grab. It actually was pretty well done.
00:15:10
Zach
Yeah, agree. i was just obviously disappointed when that was new as Great America was not in there.
00:15:18
Ben
Oh, sure. Yeah. And as much as I tried to build Great America at that time, I had i did not have the skill level to do it.
00:15:27
Zach
No. Although, you know, there is one definitive rollercoaster tycoon version of Great America.
00:15:38
Zach
And that was built by our buddy who, um I think just for all everybody's sake, we'll just keep his actual name ah not said here. But if you know the one, why don't we use a screen name?
00:15:56
Zach
I think. Wizard. We'll just call him Mr. Wizard, right?
00:16:03
Ben
is ah Is his park online anywhere? Because I've always wanted to look for it.
00:16:06
Zach
I'm sure it is.
00:16:11
Zach
He's also a member of our ah Discord.
00:16:18
Zach
Which I guess... um
00:16:20
Zach
and we won't We don't have to get too in the weeds about it here, but our Discord may be changing platforms due to all the weirdness going on with Discord.
00:16:30
Ben
Yeah, and in some ways, though, it seems like they're already backing out of it. So, like, they're planning to do the average of age verification thing.
00:16:41
Ben
Which, yeah, I don't know. i don't know of any good alternatives. I'm kind of looking around.
00:16:48
Zach
Yeah, um that's the thing is first. First of all, if they don't go through with it, then I don't think we'll try to migrate anywhere and we'll try to keep everything as it is.
00:16:59
Ben
Yeah.
00:16:59
Zach
um But we're researching what potential alternatives there are. But all the details of that will be on our Discord for now. And if it moves, we'll make sure there's a... It's it's plenty known and visible. and Because the last thing that we want is for anybody to have to send a fucking ID to some company just to be a part of our little community.
00:17:30
Ben
I mean, you got to do it for porn, but you shouldn't have to do it for roller coasters.
00:17:35
Zach
Right? No IDs for airtime.
00:17:38
Ben
yeah the Yeah, the ID thing, what what's fucked up about it is like, i get it. Like, I get it from a liability standpoint, just how much...
00:17:50
Ben
fucked up shit people try to get away with on the internet i understand it but at the same time there's like a fundamental thing in my core that just says that it's fucked up to do but i don't know i guess i guess what's sketchy about it is like yeah send send us a your yeah take a picture of your id and send an image of your id and you know, to our system and we'll take care of it.
00:18:18
Ben
Don't worry, we'll dispose it.
00:18:21
Zach
Yeah. um Well, I mean, to be fair, Facebook has done that for a long time.
00:18:29
Ben
Have they?
00:18:30
Zach
Yeah, dude. That's how my original Facebook account got cooked.
00:18:36
Ben
Wait, so they made you send a fixture ID?
00:18:39
Zach
That's what they said. Cause like I had put my DJ name is my name on there at the time.
00:18:46
Ben
Okay.
00:18:47
Zach
And then somebody reported it, that it was a fake name and they immediately lock your account and they go, Oh, if you want to unlock it, you got to send us your ID. And then your name is only going to be the name that's on your ID. And I'm like, hell no.
00:19:03
Ben
okay
00:19:05
Zach
So my my original Facebook account got cooked. So I had a backup one that now I use. And ironically, it also has a fake name.
00:19:18
Zach
But... um
00:19:19
Ben
Yeah. For some reason, I took my profile photo off my Facebook like 10 years ago. um Every once so a while, though, I'm surprised by how people still find me, like who add me as a friend. Although I guess you can go off of people you made or like, you know, related friends or whatever, but
00:19:40
Ben
I only used it
00:19:40
Zach
Yeah, right. And yours yours has a tweaked name too.
00:19:44
Ben
Oh, yeah. Middle name is last name. Yeah.
00:19:47
Zach
Yeah, yeah. Like yours is less obvious, right? like And that's that's good. That's good. I'm so for that. Just like my picture, it's like you can't really see me that well.
00:20:01
Ben
Right. Yeah.
00:20:01
Zach
And I'm like, that's fine.
00:20:04
Ben
That is pretty hilarious thinking back how um like our generation dumped our entire life onto that website. I mean, it was basically ah for a lot of people, it still is like a digital scrapbook.
00:20:20
Zach
That was the thing that I hated losing about my old account was is all these pictures.
00:20:24
Ben
Yeah. Yeah.
00:20:26
Zach
Because it was like all the pictures that I had and friends had of me. Well, the pictures my friends had of me are still there, but the pictures I had uploaded are not there anymore.
00:20:40
Ben
Yeah.
00:20:43
Ben
Yeah, that's a hard one. There's a lot of shit like when you look back on it. It would be sad to lose. Like did you ever, you had a photo bucket, right?
00:20:53
Zach
No.
00:20:54
Ben
okay.
00:20:55
Zach
Like when I would do photo trip reports on like the gap or whatever, I would literally go through Facebook.
00:21:02
Ben
Oh, yeah, that's right. Okay, because that that did work. Yeah.
00:21:05
Zach
Yeah, it worked. You could fudge it with PHP easy enough.
00:21:11
Zach
You know, for the amount of like PHP I learned, I'm surprised I never learned any more coding.
00:21:18
Ben
That's a good one to learn because it's pretty easy. Same with um like MySpace HTML.
00:21:25
Zach
Yeah, like I was pretty proficient with PHP posting at a certain point, like with the gap and stuff and TPR and Midwest Coaster Madness.
00:21:35
Ben
hmm.
00:21:37
Zach
Not that it's worth anything to like, oh, look, I can, you know, hyperlink something right in the text.
00:21:50
Zach
Or the photos are right there.
00:21:53
Ben
Yeah.
00:21:55
Ben
It's, um I was just looking at this. It's, yeah, you literally drop the HTML code into like, you're just your bio.
00:22:05
Zach
Yeah, i remember that because I remember there would be websites on MySpace where it would be like, um not on MySpace, but where they'd be like custom glitter graphics.
00:22:17
Ben
Yeah. Yeah.
00:22:19
Zach
And it'd be the most Lisa Frank looking shit.
00:22:23
Zach
But it's like, and then it would have like ah an HTML code underneath it and be like, copy and paste this into your profile.
00:22:31
Zach
Yeah, MySpace too.
00:22:31
Ben
i what
00:22:32
Zach
Remember, MySpace got cooked and I had that music profile up there that had like old live clips of me and shit.
00:22:43
Ben
on the new myspace page okay yeah
00:22:45
Zach
No, the old one. That's all gone. Because remember, all of MySpace got cooked at some point.
00:22:54
Ben
yeah which thinking back on it it's crazy that that was never archived
00:22:59
Zach
Seriously.
00:23:01
Zach
And of course, I'm sitting here talking about my little fucking thing. There was like legit bands and artists who like their entire career was launched through there.
00:23:11
Ben
Yeah.
00:23:13
Zach
And that that shit is gone.
00:23:19
Ben
If only that happened to the, if only that happened to Facebook.
00:23:23
Zach
Right.
00:23:25
Ben
I mean, that happened to Facebook in 2026, that would actually be pretty funny.
00:23:31
Zach
It'd be a good thing.
00:23:33
Ben
Yeah.
00:23:36
Zach
i mean, geez, YouTube went down for like two minutes the other day and the internet about lost it its mind.
00:23:46
Ben
See, we need more that. I love that shit. There was also a big one in, uh, I think it was like 2001 where Facebook or all meta platforms are down for six hours, but it was, it was like a Monday morning. it was, uh, you know, between like eight and 2 PM or something.
00:24:08
Ben
That was, i remember that being a big, kind of a big deal for people.
00:24:14
Zach
Yeah, right? I mean, like...
00:24:17
Zach
and a An EMP in the right place.
00:24:22
Ben
If we lose YouTube, though, we're to losing all the POVs. Every single like what's funny, though, is like how for a while, like ah a roller coaster POV on YouTube is kind of like a almost like a taboo thing.
00:24:31
Zach
No, we just all have to go back to theme park review. Ha ha!
00:24:48
Ben
And now there's just like so many of them.
00:24:53
Zach
Well, shit, Six Flags announced now that, like, they're just going to allow glasses cameras on rides.
00:24:53
Ben
likeker
00:25:04
Ben
I thought they already allowed that.
00:25:06
Zach
The blanket allowed across the whole chain, I guess.
00:25:09
Ben
Okay.
00:25:10
Zach
So, like, the meta Ray-Bans or whatever, just all good.
00:25:13
Ben
Yeah.
00:25:16
Zach
I guess just make sure you have a strap, but, like, you know.
00:25:17
Ben
I mean,
00:25:19
Ben
Sure.
00:25:21
Ben
Interesting. you remember our friend's old like spy glasses from 15 years ago?
00:25:28
Zach
Yeah.
00:25:31
Ben
Those are cool. That was, that was ahead of its time.
00:25:33
Zach
Yeah.
00:25:35
Ben
Actually, I remember we did those in a, or he wore um when we went to Canada's winterland, probably like 10 years ago now. He got a POV of everything. It works though. I guess like technically it's not the camera itself. It's just you holding something in your hand.
00:25:51
Ben
That's really the issue.
00:25:54
Zach
yeah
00:25:57
Zach
I think it's, yeah, the loose article part of the whole equation. But yeah, I think.
00:26:04
Zach
Like part of me does really want to get a pair of glasses like that.
00:26:10
Ben
Yeah, you can make your own. like Remember that British show? I think was called Peep Show.
00:26:18
Zach
No.
00:26:19
Ben
Oh. It was the is the guy that made Little Britain, i think.
00:26:26
Ben
you see If you've seen Little Britain.
00:26:29
Ben
Oh. Shit, there's some good British shows. Peep Show is like a it was like an entirely POV show, like a sitcom.
British TV Shows and Media Comparisons
00:26:43
Ben
But every angle was like from the perspective of an actual person. basic They were basically like wearing the glasses. So if it was a conversation between two people, it would literally switch between whoever was talking And then it would just be like the other person in the, you know, in front of them.
00:27:03
Zach
Is that so that kind of sounds like, do you remember that comedy central show in the early 2010s called, I think it was like secret girlfriend.
00:27:20
Ben
Not really, but kind of. No. no
00:27:27
Zach
The whole thing was first person.
00:27:31
Zach
And like the audience was like a character.
00:27:34
Zach
So like the characters would be addressing the camera directly like, hey man, that's pretty fucked up or what, i you know what i mean?
00:27:34
Ben
Okay.
00:27:45
Ben
Okay. I see. Yeah. I kind of remember this.
00:27:50
Ben
Yeah. It was, it it was, it was similar to this, except every character in the show had a point of view angle. So whoever was talking, So like anytime there is a dial, anytime there is dialogue, the dialogue was coming from the person's POV.
00:28:09
Ben
So if there's two people talking, it would just switch back and forth between each of their POVs as they're talking.
00:28:14
Zach
Oh, interesting.
00:28:20
Zach
Interesting.
00:28:23
Ben
And it was... um I mean, it was okay. like it's it's not a super It's not super rule super rewatchable. um Just because like it is kind of a gimmick. But I think what's good about that show is that it's all about...
00:28:37
Ben
there's You pretty much never see somebody talking. you know what i mean It's like when someone's talking, they're watching the other person's facial expressions.
00:28:49
Ben
So like the whole show is about... like the actor's ability to, to like their, how their face reacts to what they're hearing. It's kind of a like, it's an interesting idea, but they had like 20 seasons of it.
00:29:04
Zach
Oh, wow.
00:29:05
Ben
ah kind of, kind of gets a little, kind of get the gist after a while, but yeah, it was, it was good.
00:29:11
Zach
It's like the longest show in British history.
00:29:15
Ben
No, British seasons are like five episodes. Yeah.
00:29:19
Zach
Yeah, but usually they're like one and done or maybe two.
00:29:22
Ben
Yeah, that's true.
00:29:26
Zach
Over there, it it's summed up because over there they call a season a series.
00:29:34
Zach
Holy shit. Series two.
00:29:34
Ben
I've always wondered,
00:29:37
Ben
so I wonder, I wonder, do they have multiple series in a year? Like are all series, do they start at the same time or do they just have new shows that come out between January and February 15th?
00:29:49
Zach
Yeah, or they're just like producing stuff so frequently that like if they have to do like another season of a show, do they just assume everything's canceled? like They write it out, they get the green light, okay, great. And then it's like, oh, it did really great. We got to do like more of that than like, oh, fuck, we struck the sets already.
00:30:10
Zach
like
00:30:12
Zach
The actors are all working on other shit. Yeah.
00:30:16
Ben
Huh. Yeah, I've never...
00:30:18
Zach
I don't know, man. England's crazy.
00:30:19
Ben
That's... Yeah, but like all... But yeah, you're right. Like every good British show has maybe like 12 episodes.
00:30:28
Zach
That's it. And then they're always done.
00:30:31
Ben
Yeah. Yeah.
00:30:32
Zach
And it's crazy because then there'll be like people will reference it. Like I like faulty towers. Right. And that's a pretty classic, well-known comedy because it's what's his name from Monty Python.
00:30:48
Zach
And it's it's well known and well, you know, like yeah critics all say, like oh, that's a, you know, a great sitcom and whatever. But like, yeah, I don't know, 15 episodes, maybe.
00:31:05
Zach
Which, um if there's people that are like way younger than us listening to, well, I mean, fuck, Lance listens to this. ah if you If you haven't heard of Fawlty Towers, I would highly recommend it.
00:31:19
Zach
There's only about 15 episodes or whatever. It's an easy binge.
00:31:24
Ben
Did you ever watch the IT crowd?
00:31:28
Zach
No, but I've heard of it and i feel like I should just because I've seen it on streamers so much. I'm like, huh?
00:31:36
Ben
Yeah, and um it's got a noel or noel Noel from great bit great british Great British Bake Off.
00:31:48
Zach
Oh, OK.
00:31:50
Ben
Also, like there only seems to be like six British actors ever in a generation, and they're just in every single show.
00:32:00
Zach
That's just because that's what we get in America.
00:32:04
Ben
Yeah, that's true.
00:32:05
Zach
We don't get like BBC fucking 38. You know what I mean?
00:32:11
Ben
Yeah, true.
00:32:13
Zach
You log into that BBC app and you start scrolling. I bet you'll find every British actor you've ever heard of. Plus more. Yeah.
00:32:25
Ben
do know that you need a TV license if you own, if you download the BBC app.
00:32:31
Zach
Oh, really?
00:32:33
Ben
Yeah, that's like that's like one of those like big like kind of right-wing talking points, points like kind of like matt the British MAGA kind of crowd.
00:32:46
Ben
So has something to do with ah like, what is it? I don't know. Obviously, there's some tax, right, that's collected that goes to the BBC. Yeah.
00:33:02
Ben
from whether it's through like TV sales or like antenna sales, I think like cable TV, when you like have a cable, so like TV subscription, there's a tax that goes to the BBC.
00:33:14
Ben
um And so then now everybody has laptops and tablets and shit and they're downloading the BBC app. And so they don't have a way to collect this tax. Yeah.
00:33:26
Ben
So you have to have a TV license in order to use, bb to stream BBC as a way to like, for BBC to get revenue.
00:33:35
Zach
I mean, it's a public service to
00:33:40
Zach
I'll go ahead and say the world. If you ever watched BBC news, I mean, it's, it's,
00:33:46
Zach
I prefer it to any American news outlet.
00:33:52
Ben
Yeah.
00:33:54
Ben
print What was the?
00:33:54
Zach
know I don't want to get controversial here, but ah BBC and Al Jazeera are probably a lot better than any of the networks or news outlets based in America.
00:34:08
Ben
What's the one we got? OAN.
00:34:10
Zach
I mean, look, there's a lot of high quality journalism happening on One America News and Fox News, Breitbart.
00:34:22
Zach
There's quality journalism all over this country.
00:34:25
Ben
My favorite are the, are like the, there's ones that come out of China where it's basically like a Chinese news station about American news. It's those are, those are fun to watch. Like every time I've like, it's like 2am and I, so I always would like stumble upon it scrolling through shit. And it's, it's always a fun watch.
00:34:49
Zach
I've never seen that, but I'm going to have to look for it now.
00:34:55
Ben
Especially if you're super high.
00:34:59
Zach
Oh, I will be.
Theme Park Speculations and Rumors
00:35:04
Zach
So, yo, um
00:35:07
Zach
let's talk coasters.
00:35:08
Ben
Yeah, I know.
00:35:11
Zach
Some fucking purple ass track showed up at Great Adventure.
00:35:16
Ben
And this is the, that it's, so is it, is it, is this shit confirmed a mock spinner?
00:35:22
Zach
Well, the label said mock, but I don't know if it confirmed like the model.
00:35:24
Ben
Okay.
00:35:36
Ben
So, okay. So I guess with all, here's the thing with all that leaked, all the leaked stuff about the the phantom spy or whatever, i have a feeling that's probably going to actually what it is.
00:35:49
Ben
Cause it seems like there's just too much leaked stuff. for that to be not the case. And it seems like it also, well, also in our our modern times, it seems like anything that is leaked ends up actually being the real thing.
00:35:57
Zach
So wait, that was, go ahead.
00:36:08
Zach
Yeah. Well, and yeah, that's true.
00:36:12
Ben
There's no way to keep, like a park, a park is not able to keep a secret anymore. If you see like a legit, if you see like, start to see the blueprints and, you know, the like full recreation two years ahead of time in the parks. Like, no, this isn't what it is. We can't confirm this. And you know, it's probably real.
00:36:29
Zach
Yeah, it's crazy because, like, I remember fucking 20 years ago, ah you go on Screamscape and it would be the craziest, most unsubstantiated rumors.
00:36:42
Ben
Yeah.
00:36:43
Zach
It would be like, it would be like, they're going to build a fucking wooden 4D coaster at Magic Mountain.
00:36:52
Ben
Yeah, and it's like because somebody spotted spray paint lines in the parking lot.
00:36:58
Zach
and and a board of lumber.
00:37:00
Ben
Yeah.
00:37:02
Zach
And they'd be like, semi-confirmed question mark.
00:37:08
Ben
Yeah, now we got our theme park predictions.
00:37:12
Zach
Which are just as wild.
00:37:15
Ben
I know.
00:37:17
Ben
It's like part of me like kind of respects the hustle, but it's also, don't know.
00:37:24
Ben
It's just every time I watch one of those videos, it's just, I'm like, does this dude just make a new like a new no limits coaster every single day? And then just like, it's just like a, right? Like is is the joke on like everybody else? Like, is he actually the smart one who's like figured out a way to just like find a way to put out his no limit creations in a creative way.
00:37:46
Zach
fuck around on no limits and sell t-shirts
00:37:49
Ben
Yeah. Yeah. I mean, exactly.
00:37:54
Ben
Who wouldn't want to do that? Like what, what enthusiasts wouldn't want to do that as for a living.
00:38:01
Zach
but it also kind of feels like getting like being the alex jones of roller coasters
00:38:08
Ben
Oh yeah, for sure.
00:38:10
Zach
Where you're like, just gotta, you gotta like sit there and think about like, what's the, what can I do to top the shit I said yesterday?
00:38:10
Ben
i mean, that's, that's,
00:38:18
Zach
You know what I mean? like Oh, is RMC going to do a regular loop?
00:38:28
Zach
Yes. It's going to Carowinds. Like,
00:38:34
Ben
yeah literally it literally is InfoWars
00:38:38
Ben
if only he had a only if he had the Alex Jones accent like that'd be a fun show idea if you if there is a way to pull that off that'd be pretty fun
00:38:46
Zach
Folks, we're seeing a full-on revival of the Aerodynamics swinging suspended coaster. And it is coming to a very small park on the coast of Florida.
00:39:05
Ben
I think also too, it was like theme park predictions. Then it was keep riding coasters. And now it's.
00:39:11
Zach
yeah He that that channel has to change their name a lot because they end up in hot water because they go on Twitter and.
00:39:23
Zach
Say things that I don't agree with.
00:39:26
Ben
Wait, really? There's controversy.
00:39:30
Zach
Yeah. um Yes. A lot of things that I really don't care for.
00:39:36
Ben
Okay.
00:39:36
Zach
he
00:39:38
Zach
makes comments about um people whose
00:39:46
Zach
ethnic identity is dissimilar from his own.
00:39:50
Ben
Okay.
00:39:53
Ben
I mean, that doesn't surprise me.
00:39:58
Zach
And the real like the real coded dog whistly type.
00:40:04
Ben
Sure, yeah.
00:40:06
Zach
Like every time there's like a here's the context, right? Every time there's a ah news article about a fight at a haunt event.
00:40:17
Ben
OK, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:40:18
Zach
Yeah, yeah. He says exactly what you would expect. Yeah.
00:40:24
Zach
And it's like you're a real piece of shit, aren't you?
00:40:29
Ben
He even kind of looks like Ozempic Alex Jones now. like
00:40:40
Ben
And he's got the um o classic, the American flag ah cross thing.
00:40:44
Zach
Yeah. Yep.
00:40:47
Zach
Yep. Yeah. So every time there's like a news article about like a fight at a haunt or like, you know, the the like age restrictions at a park, he'll say exactly what you would expect.
00:40:47
Ben
Okay.
00:41:01
Ben
OK, not surprised.
00:41:05
Ben
but
00:41:07
Zach
and then And then what happens is that like somebody will call him out, and then he'll just step in it further.
00:41:15
Ben
OK, sure, yeah.
00:41:16
Zach
You know?
00:41:18
Zach
he'll get to He'll get to the the whole, like, like i he there was one time where he straight up got to the whole, like, well, if people don't have fathers present in their life,
00:41:31
Ben
Oh my god.
00:41:32
Zach
yeah and you're like Holy fucking shit. It's like the Bill Burr bit about like wheel out the podium.
00:41:43
Ben
watching.
00:41:46
Zach
So yeah.
00:41:46
Ben
watching
00:41:48
Zach
So next time, next time there's a news article about like a fight breaking out of the theme park. Go find that guy's Twitter.
00:41:58
Ben
with
00:42:01
Ben
Looks like a...
00:42:02
Zach
and then And then it'll happen, and then he'll change his name.
00:42:11
Ben
I mean, it definitely looks like a real, you know, like a real trad life kind of vibe.
00:42:20
Zach
Yeah, I get like real like Hulk Hogan van fan vibes.
00:42:25
Zach
And I mean like 2025 Hulk Hogan.
00:42:28
Ben
Yeah.
00:42:29
Zach
But yeah, um
00:42:30
Ben
And there's, there's, okay. I wanted, this is, this is the the problem though of like, um, just the YouTube world of,
00:42:40
Ben
there's a lot of channels. Like I'm, I've always been very obsessed with YouTube channels that have less than like 50 subscribers, but have like a bunch of videos. mainly from like not some, I mean like not so much in the coast world. Cause like, I feel like it's pretty easy to generate like decent content in theme parks. If you're into theme parks, like it could be the worst video at a theme park ever, but if it has off ride footage and whatever, you know, like I'll probably still watch it, but I remember, um, Oh no, we can't, we can't discuss that. Nevermind.
00:43:17
Zach
Okay.
00:43:17
Ben
Um, I was gonna say, I do you remember though, there was this girl I went to high school with and I'll make fun of her because she gave me a shit about being gay probably back in like 2013.
00:43:34
Ben
um
00:43:35
Zach
Oh, that's a good move. That's age well.
00:43:37
Ben
Yeah. So I, I checked into a gay bar once in 2013 and then she messaged me and she was like, why did you check in at a gay bar? And then was like, and then oh the and then I was like, because I'm gay.
00:43:50
Zach
She's trying to get it
00:43:55
Ben
and she's like, oh, good for you, I guess, or something. um But then like lately, she's been like trying to get into like the whole, ah have you seen this jewelry shit?
00:44:06
Ben
It's like you live stream on Facebook and
00:44:09
Zach
it. It's like QVC, right?
00:44:10
Ben
Yeah, and it's like you have like a a table full of shit and then you're like holding shit up. you're like, okay, this number 13. Okay, like, okay, i'll start for $20, put it in the comments. You know, it's like a bidding thing.
00:44:23
Ben
i don't know.
00:44:23
Zach
Yeah, yeah, it's basically the new dropshipping, right?
00:44:27
Ben
Yeah, yeah. And there's also um like ring bombs. Have we seen that have you seen this shit?
00:44:37
Zach
No, what?
00:44:39
Ben
it's ah It's a piece of jewelry that's in a bath bomb. And then you that you start a live stream and you drop the bath bomb in like a bucket of water live on video.
00:44:52
Ben
So the idea is that you buy the bath bomb and you bid on it before you know what's inside of it. so it's like, okay, guys, I have this yellow bath bomb. We'll start the bidding at $5. And then people in the comments will bid it up.
00:45:05
Ben
And then once the bidding is done, it's like, okay, we're going do it, drop it in the water live on the on the stream. And then like the bath bomb fizzes and stuff. And they're okay, let's see what we got. Okay. it's ah It's a black a spider ring.
00:45:20
Ben
You know, it's like basically, remember those, ven ah the coin operated things or you put the quarter and you get the little plastic ball that you pop open. It's basically like that.
00:45:29
Zach
Yeah. This is making money.
00:45:33
Ben
i guess so. The problem is is that it's a pyramid scheme. So there's like one person who makes a bunch of money and who has a huge audience and a bunch of subscribers, but then like thousands of other people try to do it, but they don't have any fan, like follower base to actually make money off of it.
00:45:53
Ben
So they have like two, two or three viewers at a time. It's probably like friends or family.
00:45:59
Zach
That seems kind of degrading.
00:46:03
Ben
Yeah. Yeah.
00:46:04
Zach
Not going to lie. Trying to be...
00:46:06
Ben
So I watched, so this girl, this girl that gave me shit for being gay, i watched her do this for years. And I would always like, but sometimes I was the only person viewing her live stream.
00:46:18
Ben
um It's good popcorn entertainment when it's late at night. But yeah, that's like a big thing.
00:46:28
Ben
um And then her brother, Was trying to start a food review YouTube channel.
00:46:37
Zach
Keep it classy.
00:46:38
Ben
Yep. And it's like, hey guys, today we're reviewing nacho cheese Doritos. It's just like...
00:46:54
Zach
Oh, my God. You got to start somewhere, I guess.
00:46:56
Ben
I know, i know. And it's like filmed with a cell phone, vertical, no microphone, like sitting at ah at a kitchen table where there's like a cat messing around in the background and there's a TV on in the background and they're just like, okay, like let's open it up. And then like, yeah, this is pretty good. i really like the nacho cheese flavor.
00:47:18
Ben
Yeah, there's a nice flavor and there's a nice crisp, good crunch flavor. And then they like, you know, that you hold up the bag and you read the back of the bag for a second as you're eating one. and Yeah. Then the next one was M&M's. They reviewed eminem's
00:47:39
Zach
really stretching the possibilities of what the format can be.
00:47:48
Ben
That's why, like, um like this is... Yeah, nacho cheese. Like, if you just search for this, Doritos review.
00:48:02
Ben
And then you filter by views and you go to the very, very bottom. Like, it is the best entertainment. I want to find... There's got to be a search engine to, like, specifically pull, like, 10-year-old videos that have less than 100 views.
00:48:17
Ben
Because it's it's it's it's great.
00:48:18
Zach
I mean,
00:48:19
Ben
I love it.
00:48:21
Zach
i mean, let's be honest here. If you're reviewing that snacks, that's not even food.
00:48:26
Ben
Right, yeah.
00:48:27
Zach
That's like, you know,
00:48:32
Zach
yeah i still watch, um, fucking review bra.
YouTube Content and Influencers
00:48:38
Ben
Oh, yeah, that guy figured it out.
00:48:40
Zach
Oh dude, that guy's great. I'm like, he is the hardest working lizard in all of YouTube.
00:48:50
Zach
No, that dudes that that dude is great, though. And also, like, RIP that guy. i know he's not dead now.
00:48:58
Ben
Oh, is that a thing?
00:49:00
Zach
No, i just... He's been professionally... He started professionally drinking energy drinks before he was of legal age. And now he eats fast food professionally. Like, that's got a shelf life.
00:49:16
Ben
Sure. Although, i think he only does like one video a week and he doesn't eat the whole thing. So let's that's at least something.
00:49:26
Zach
Well, also he lives in Florida. So like, you know, context.
00:49:38
Zach
Okay. That was a really horrible joke.
00:49:44
Zach
Do, do I feel bad about making it a little bit? And it's a real damn shame. Our editing machine is broken.
00:49:53
Ben
That's okay.
00:49:55
Zach
Yeah, well, is what it is.
00:50:02
Zach
Fuck. um
00:50:04
Zach
Talking coasters, talking to YouTubers. um I do want to say on a serious note, ah because we didn't get to talk about it. ah we lost a We lost a real one.
00:50:18
Zach
Man, Adam the Woo.
00:50:22
Ben
Oh yeah, that's right. That happened recently.
00:50:25
Zach
Yeah, ah back in December. And that that really hit. That hit me hard. I had the pleasure of meeting my man on two separate occasions.
00:50:34
Ben
Yeah, that,
00:50:40
Ben
Yeah, that one was hard because I was like thinking about it. was like, dude, I think I watched like most of his early videos. like
00:50:47
Zach
That's what I'm saying, because like I know...
00:50:48
Ben
And everybody knew him, it seemed like. like Yeah. Yeah.
00:50:53
Zach
Yeah, for the first, like, four or five years of YouTube's existence, you and I were both pretty into it.
00:51:01
Ben
yeah
00:51:02
Zach
And, like, he was an early ah adapter, too. And so, like, yeah. And when he started his daily vlogs, I had pretty much been watching those not every single day, but I would say three to five a week.
00:51:20
Zach
Like, that was regular viewing for me for, don't know, like 15 years or some shit.
00:51:24
Ben
Yeah.
00:51:26
Zach
So... mean, we we lost a real one, man.
00:51:32
Zach
And then that...
00:51:33
Ben
Yeah, that's sad.
00:51:35
Zach
Yeah, it really is. Because my dude was 51. I feel... Yeah...
00:51:39
Ben
Now, like...
00:51:39
Zach
so i feel
00:51:42
Ben
Yeah, that's young. Especially now, like...
00:51:43
Zach
yeah
00:51:45
Ben
i mean, we're close, but...
00:51:48
Zach
Well, that's what I'm saying. it was That was ah part of what inspired me to decide, like, yeah, I think I'm going to take 2026 off from ah nicotine and alcohol and, you know, energy drinks.
00:52:04
Ben
Yep, that's a good idea. So she's like, yeah.
00:52:07
Zach
Because I ain't getting any younger.
00:52:10
Ben
Probably riding X2.
00:52:14
Zach
Yeah, right. That's got a shelf life.
00:52:18
Ben
actually wondered like, how many if there's anybody who's ridden a roller coaster but it didn't have repercussions for it like until 10 years later
00:52:28
Zach
Yeah, I wonder.
00:52:32
Zach
That's the thing is like. all the G forces and shit. Like, I know, like, is it like professional wrestling, right? You wrestle a match.
00:52:43
Zach
That's the equivalent of like a car crash worth of damage to your body.
Health Impacts of Coaster Enthusiasm
00:52:49
Zach
So like on that scale. Yeah. What, what on, on one to professional wrestling match, where does riding a roller coaster rank?
00:53:02
Ben
I mean, it it varies. There's some worse than others. my My number one would probably be Shell Razor definitely messed my neck up for sure. Like car level level, like car accident level mess up.
00:53:16
Zach
So Shell Razor is pretty much all the way at car accident then.
00:53:20
Ben
Yeah.
00:53:21
Ben
That's why i well every time I ride a ah go to a theme park these days, I got to do yoga, like like hardcore yoga for a good week before I ride a roller coaster just so i don't get that weird neck issue.
00:53:33
Zach
That's a good ass idea.
00:53:35
Ben
It works 100%. It totally works. Also, just don't ride B&Ms and you're fine.
00:53:38
Zach
That's.
00:53:41
Zach
That's a good ass idea. See, that's where I feel like drinking alcohol actually can be advantageous when you're riding roller coasters because it makes you a lot more limber and relaxed physically.
00:53:54
Ben
Oh, sure. Yeah.
00:53:55
Zach
You know, so like I could feel like that actually there would be some benefit there.
00:54:00
Ben
Oh, yeah. Like riding. It's like riding. Magnum back way back in the day, super, super, super drunk.
00:54:12
Ben
And just like, it's just like you're riding a mechanical bull. Just like. One hand on the lap bar pushing it up, other hand up in the air, and you just kind of like let it kick you around.
00:54:25
Ben
Especially when you're drunk. It's a lot of fun.
00:54:28
Zach
Yeah.
00:54:28
Ben
Wouldn't do it today, but good memories.
00:54:31
Zach
Well, i like I think you have a point, though. There's probably some physical repercussion for that.
00:54:38
Ben
Well, maybe. That one, yeah. Actually, probably that that one. i was to say, like, really? It's the... Like, I'm trying to think of the worst ones, like Hades, when it was running rough.
00:54:51
Ben
That one's definitely, like, long-term significant damage.
00:54:56
Zach
Okay, wait, now I'm thinking about it.
00:54:57
Ben
Like...
00:55:00
Zach
There was that study about the guy that rode Big Thunder Mountain Railroad at Disney World
00:55:08
Zach
and passed a kidney stone because of it.
00:55:13
Ben
Like, was this a good thing?
00:55:15
Zach
I think that's open to interpretation.
00:55:15
Ben
like whens you try of Like, was he trying to pass it?
00:55:19
Zach
i think so. hipp
00:55:19
Ben
Or...
00:55:23
Zach
I don't think it was just for science.
00:55:23
Ben
How the hell do
00:55:27
Ben
Oh, crazy.
00:55:30
Zach
But yeah, that's... And, you know, it's... ah Honestly, i don't know how they settled on Big Thunder Mountain Railroad at Magic Kingdom.
00:55:41
Zach
But, yeah, so... I think if the, I guess, vibrations of a roller coaster can pulverize a kidney stone enough to pass, then yeah, you're probably right. There's some physical repercussions.
00:55:58
Ben
Okay. I mean,
00:56:00
Ben
interesting. i wonder if that, I wonder if that works with like blood clots though.
00:56:08
Ben
In like a good way. Like if you have, like if you have a blood clot, if ah like a positive, strong positive G's would like,
00:56:15
Zach
I don't think there's any positive way to make it blood clot.
00:56:24
Ben
Yeah, I don't know.
00:56:27
Zach
Maybe the right combination of blood thinners and ah raging bull.
00:56:34
Ben
Oh, yeah. Although that was... a
00:56:38
Ben
Oh, no, that was... Or, like, the incident on Goliath. I think there was, like, an aneurysm or something on Goliath. The old one, when it was running without the trims.
00:56:52
Zach
Oh yeah, that's right. With some of the high G-forces, which is why they have the trims now. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So like, I don't know, dude. think it's definitely likely. Because I don't know that there, but the thing is, you know, for it to actually be studied, there'd be to be like some really like some hyper-specific guidelines.
00:57:18
Ben
Yeah, right.
00:57:20
Zach
You're talking about your neck. I think, yeah, like the the spinal cord in the neck is a good area to focus on. what What does it do?
00:57:32
Zach
Like, yeah, really, what does it do to your neck if you ride fucking ah prowler 40 times a year for 10 years, you know?
00:57:32
Ben
Got it.
00:57:42
Ben
Sure, yeah. There is as there is some study of people who ride jet skis um with uh literal that it's like compression of of like the neck the discs in the neck but also when you're riding a jet ski you could be riding a jet ski for like ah you know hours hitting waves constantly to do to do to do to do but i imagine a roller coaster over time probably is the same way
00:58:09
Zach
Yeah, dude And then take into account that a lot of us enthusiasts don't really ah put that much thought into our own health.
00:58:22
Ben
sure yeah
00:58:25
Ben
that's why theme park yoga is uh is critical do they it's it's it's i'm telling you it's life-changing um that i really had ever i never really had like that many issues before but um i guess i like i don't ever get i'm never i'm never sore when i get off of roller coaster it's more so just It's really just B&Ms that like the rattlingness will kind of like mess my neck up.
00:58:54
Ben
But um yeah, if I do the yoga, it tends to help a little bit.
00:59:01
Zach
I like that. We should develop a program.
00:59:05
Ben
Coaster yoga. i mean, like in China and Japan, they do like full on like stretches and stuff in the station. Have you ever seen those videos where they time the operations?
00:59:20
Ben
It's like a train comes in, everybody gets up, they clear the station, and then the ride attendants go to the gates. Before they open the gates, they make everyone do like stretches for three minutes. and then they let And then they open the gates and let you come in and sit down.
00:59:35
Zach
Yeah, dude, for real. I think i think we should we should come up with ah some some some ideas.
00:59:43
Ben
Cat-cow is a good one.
00:59:46
Ben
hold Learn to hold your downward dog for up to a minute.
00:59:50
Zach
We got to do easy ones. Like, we got to start with, chair yoga type of shit that people, like, enthusiasts can do on a bench at a park, you know?
00:59:55
Ben
for
00:59:59
Ben
Like a sit and be fit kind of thing.
01:00:00
Zach
Yeah, exactly. We are talking about coaster enthusiasts.
01:00:05
Ben
Yeah.
01:00:07
Zach
Because, like, here's here's the real deal, right? How many of us eat the shit at the parks or, like, fast food?
01:00:15
Ben
yeah that's another one oh nice
01:00:18
Zach
And admittedly, i am about to eat some Taco Bell tonight.
01:00:24
Zach
But I cook meals every other night.
01:00:31
Ben
yeah lately i fortunately like I don't really eat fast food but I do still eat out like i don't eat I really don't eat that great um
01:00:44
Ben
But at least when we cook at home, like really the main thing is like, don't eat processed shit. Just like eat the actual thing. Like if you want potatoes, just eat the actual potatoes.
01:00:58
Ben
If you want whatever. An egg dish dish, just eat actual eggs.
01:01:05
Zach
Yeah, my only exception.
01:01:06
Ben
eat actual vegetables, like cut, just like cut a vegetable and eat the vegetable.
01:01:13
Zach
That's what I cook a lot of, is vegetable dishes.
01:01:20
Zach
Although I do use, like, meat substitutes.
01:01:23
Ben
Are they, those are usually just like plant-based though, right?
01:01:27
Zach
Yeah, they're typically, like... Soy, pea protein, you know, like, but they're processed all hell.
01:01:34
Ben
Yeah.
01:01:37
Zach
Because that shit, it it turns into something that resembles, you know, ground beef or whatever.
01:01:44
Zach
But, you know, yeah, I tend to do, yeah, vegetables
01:01:50
Ben
Oh, here, going Oh, yeah.
01:01:52
Zach
Fiber also super important for everybody. Now I was going to ask you, um, and water like, and I want to seriously, I'm talking to our coaster people and our friends here, water and fiber guys and like yoga and not even complex stuff, but seriously, y'all, um,
01:02:17
Zach
and And now, right now, I'm speaking to everybody, but I'm especially speaking to people who I've known for a long time. We ain't getting any younger, y'all, so... Fucking let's let's all be mindful together, right? So we can keep on riding coasters together for a long time.
01:02:37
Ben
Keep riding coasters.
01:02:39
Zach
Just like that.
01:02:42
Zach
So this thing you sent, are we supposed to be talking about this, or...?
01:02:42
Ben
Hold on. Let's not give details because you never know what kind of, you never know where the crossovers are in the in the in the hobby.
01:02:56
Zach
but Yeah, right.
01:02:56
Ben
um but just as But just as like kind of the the cliches of things we typically make fun of, Like it hits, it's, it's to a t and just the, like the, like the amount of subscribers and just like the format of the video, it's the name.
01:03:17
Zach
I would like to just start off and say like very original in concept.
01:03:22
Ben
Yeah. Yeah, totally.
01:03:25
Zach
I've never heard of anybody mixing roller coasters and alcohol.
01:03:33
Zach
uh,
01:03:34
Zach
I like, especially since I've made a conscious decision to not drink this whole year. I'm like,
01:03:47
Ben
Oh, sorry, sir.
01:03:48
Zach
Oh no. Just like, i keep remembering running into that highly intoxicated a person at Knott's Berry farm.
01:03:59
Ben
Oh, yeah. Yeah, that one stuck with me. And I think that's a good... like think Like, thank God, like, we weren't... I mean, we weren't drinking at all that whole trip, but, like, it's a good... That was a good, like...
01:04:14
Ben
It was like a good like refresher. Like, a hey, like you could go in two different directions in your life and don't go that way.
01:04:24
Zach
Yeah. Yeah, that was like, that really was what kicked off me being like, i don't really know how much I like alcohol.
01:04:35
Ben
hmm.
01:04:38
Zach
Because I was like thinking back of all the times I've drank and I'm like, shit, have I ever been like that?
01:04:47
Zach
and I'm like, oh, fuck, I'm sure I have.
01:04:50
Ben
Well, also that dude is like 40. Like maybe a little.
01:04:56
Zach
But that's the thing is if you're above like 28, you're too old for that shit.
01:05:02
Ben
Yeah.
01:05:03
Zach
Like if you're, if you're getting like absolutely fucking smashed in your fucking like mid thirties, go to therapy.
01:05:15
Zach
You know what I'm saying?
01:05:19
Ben
Yeah, that was the...
01:05:19
Zach
i'm not I'm not trying to rag on people that enjoy some alcohol, right? There's plenty of people that enjoy it responsibly. Good on you, right? But I'm literally talking about the people that get, like, fucking blackout or close on even a semi-regular basis.
01:05:39
Zach
like Figure your shit out.
01:05:44
Ben
Well, always s think about like coming from Wisconsin, where like that was pretty normal. Like that, like unfortunately like Wisconsin lifestyle is is very common like that.
Reality TV and Health Culture
01:05:55
Ben
And it's weird.
01:05:56
Ben
Lately as i as I've gotten older, like i I reflect on it when I go back home and it's, if there's like two camps of people. It's basically camps of people who are like, oh, like that's stupid and I'll stop. And then the ones that don't, the yeah, it's just, a I don't know.
01:06:14
Ben
Sometimes it's hard to, it's hard to look at. And I don't mean that in like, just cause I've, I've, I've got extended family that, and close family that definitely has that problem. And it's, it's always, it's a, it's a really tough one to deal with.
01:06:29
Ben
Um, I don't know.
01:06:32
Zach
I'm sure. yeah that's a whole other thing. It's like, just like,
01:06:38
Zach
don't know, man. Alcohol is very overrated as ah as a substance.
01:06:48
Ben
In that video,
01:06:51
Ben
I love the...
01:06:55
Ben
i was good Okay, so before we get to, in that video, with the one I sent you, they're giving credit to the off-ride and the POVs, but they're literally just filming.
01:06:58
Zach
Yeah.
01:07:05
Ben
It's like a camera on a tripod.
01:07:06
Zach
A TV.
01:07:07
Ben
Yeah, yeah.
01:07:11
Zach
they They didn't even bother to download the videos to throw them in the editor.
01:07:20
Ben
And there's a Noel, the Disney, there's one specifically where it's a holiday drink one.
01:07:28
Zach
Wait, what?
01:07:29
Ben
In one of the videos that they posted, there's one where they're just getting blasted in the kitchen.
01:07:36
Zach
Oh, fun.
01:07:42
Zach
Yeah, well, I'm trying not to be the, uh, the, the judgy non-alcohol person.
01:07:54
Zach
Because I have my things and they're not, they're not, that doesn't make me any better.
01:08:00
Zach
Just like straight edge people aren't better than any of us substance users.
01:08:06
Zach
But I do think when it comes to health, all of us could be a little more health conscious.
01:08:12
Ben
So we're to be launching coaster yoga.
01:08:15
Zach
I think that's a good idea and I think we should.
01:08:21
Ben
I've
01:08:24
Zach
Yeah, dude.
01:08:25
Ben
been binge watching that show.
01:08:27
Zach
Isn't it awesome?
01:08:29
Ben
It is. Well, it is good.
01:08:30
Zach
I wouldn't know.
01:08:31
Ben
But the.
01:08:31
Zach
Actually, awesome's a little far. Sorry.
01:08:33
Ben
Well, and no, I like, I actually really like it up until about season five, then things start get becoming more, a little bit of a stretch. Like, they really stretch out and dramatize the episodes at and the fifth season, but like, I still enjoy it a lot.
01:08:49
Zach
I like that. Isn't that around the time when like Tammy really gets a hold on her of herself and Amy starts going nuts?
01:08:59
Ben
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
01:09:00
Zach
Yeah, it was interesting to watch their whole dynamic flip. And honestly, it was good to see Tammy actually improve, at least in terms of, you know, the presentation.
01:09:14
Ben
i also saw there's one called like thousand pound roommates they definitely they definitely spun off a bunch of those shows uh
01:09:21
Zach
Yeah, I watched like Thousand Pound Friends couple episodes and it was not interesting.
01:09:30
Zach
Thousand Pound Sisters is only interesting because that like family it's basically it's like.
01:09:36
Zach
A family of rednecks that's completely wanting to be exploited by reality TV.
01:09:42
Ben
it
01:09:44
Zach
So they're so willing and into it that I'm like, I don't really feel bad that they are doing this to themselves.
01:09:54
Ben
Well, they're also actually interesting people. Like what actually, which I think kind of helps like, cause like they actually seem like they can be fun and entertaining and like, they're like an actual, like, you know, fun family.
01:10:09
Zach
In a, in a rural Kentucky way. Sure.
01:10:13
Ben
Well, yeah, but sure. Like, but that's what I mean. Like even it's like the idea is like even in a small town in Kentucky, like, you know, there's, there's, there's, there's like personality behind the weight loss.
01:10:26
Ben
And then it was like other people saw that show and were like, oh, now is our time. Like the thousand pound friend one or a thousand pound roommate one, whatever. There's like five spinoffs.
01:10:43
Zach
Yeah, and I bet they all suck. Because I feel like the only connection with them is the fucking doctor, which nobody's watching for that guy who's only in one episode a season anyway.
01:10:45
Ben
Yeah.
01:10:56
Ben
Yeah, exactly.
01:10:58
Zach
Because it's not like they're friends of Amy and Tammy. They're just also patients of the same doctor because TLC is like, here's the doctor.
01:11:11
Ben
Also too, like, it's crazy that that whole family got bariatric surgery. um Which like goes kind of goes into the whole like our fucked up food and pharmaceutical like economy in our country. Yeah.
Pharmaceutical Advertising and Public Reaction
01:11:33
Zach
Yeah. Well, the pharmaceutical thing is crazy. Like it's still crazy to me that there's like advertisements and they're like, ask your doctor about fuck a troll.
01:11:46
Zach
And it's like, I'm not, I'm not a pharmacist. I'm not a chemist. Like why would I be asking my doctor about a specific drug?
01:11:57
Ben
Yeah, why did you invest $30 million dollars into this commercial?
01:12:03
Zach
Yeah, and like with really shitty acoustic guitar music.
01:12:11
Zach
And people like at a painting class in slow motion.
01:12:17
Ben
you have It's like any side, it's like side effects include, it's like,
01:12:21
Zach
Exploding bowels.
01:12:28
Zach
Organ tissue and urine.
01:12:30
Ben
Uncontrollable erections.
01:12:36
Ben
A sudden lust for... i was going to make an Epstein joke, but... Now that shit's getting too real.
01:12:44
Zach
Teeth turn into vampire fangs Speaking of Epstein jokes Ace's vice president resigned Mysteriously Yeah
01:12:56
Ben
Really? Uh-oh.
01:13:00
Zach
I'm going to not make an Epstein joke. Cause yeah, like you said, it's like, it's going to be in poor taste if it's not already.
01:13:15
Zach
Let's, let's give it some time. But I did find it curious that ACEs vice president suddenly and mysteriously resigned.
01:13:24
Ben
Wait, hold on. is this Is this something that I can Google?
01:13:27
Zach
um I don't think so because he's still on their web website listed as the vice president.
01:13:35
Ben
There's a position description. um Here's the thing, though. Do you really think ace is in the same, like...
01:13:44
Zach
No.
01:13:45
Ben
you know, atmosphere is that whole thing, but
01:13:51
Zach
Not even close.
01:13:55
Ben
maybe he sent an email, like kind of like a, a dot or a, a dot, a, uh, Elon email.
01:14:04
Ben
Do you see that one? Where he's like, can I come to your Island girls for the win?
01:14:12
Zach
ha ha ha comedy is legal.
01:14:15
Ben
and And then I think the response was like a typical, just like very vague, like, oh, sorry, you just missed the party. it was yesterday. you just missed it. like
01:14:28
Zach
Which God. ah
01:14:31
Zach
The whole thing is funny because like
01:14:34
Zach
it definitely is like one of those things where you're like, to all the people I know that are fairly staunchly on the right, this is the time I feel like poking them.
Epstein Files and Public Discourse
01:14:51
Ben
Yeah.
01:14:51
Zach
You know?
01:14:53
Zach
Especially some of them will say things or post things that are like, oh my god, these beddos. And you're like, I can't help myself. And I'm like,
01:15:05
Zach
Yeah, that one. You know what I mean?
01:15:08
Ben
Yep.
01:15:12
Zach
And it's just like no reaction.
01:15:15
Ben
That's the thing. that's It's beyond the point where of that shit even mattering to people. It's like, it's just also too, like it's kind of that flood the zone strategy. People have been hearing so much about Epstein that it's people are just desensitized now.
01:15:29
Ben
Like a literal video could come out of Trump doing something and like people would forget about it within a day.
01:15:43
Ben
Butt Benghazi.
01:15:45
Zach
No, it's just, it's it's so funny to me because like, what was it? Not too long ago, I think it was maybe around the time we started this podcast or since then when fucking Q was dropping info, breadcrumbs to lead to the cabal. Yeah.
01:16:07
Ben
Qbot Drops.
01:16:09
Zach
Yeah. Yeah, because I remember us doing Coaster Q bot.
01:16:16
Zach
So that's what I'm saying. And like, I remember laughing that shit off like, no, there's no way. Right? Like, because they couldn't like keep that shit secret.
01:16:27
Zach
And like, here we are. And the FBI released the files. And it's like, there it is. It's real.
01:16:37
Ben
Yeah, right.
01:16:38
Zach
And it's like, so is something going to happen or
01:16:42
Ben
No, that's what's fucked up about it. is like is It's like it it compromises so many people that everyone's just pretending it's like not a big deal.
01:16:54
Ben
it's It's almost like at this point they know that the entire population of like non-political elites...
01:16:56
Zach
Well,
01:17:04
Ben
could think something is is like insane and it it wouldn't matter. Like that's, what's so sad about it.
01:17:12
Zach
Well, in the really fucked up thing that nobody seems to be talking about is like people who like, let's just keep it vague here, but get their enjoyment that way.
01:17:25
Zach
Don't just stop because that guy stopped.
01:17:28
Ben
Oh, sure. Yeah.
01:17:30
Zach
So the shit's still fucking happening.
01:17:33
Ben
Yeah.
01:17:35
Ben
I saw some crazy things too, where they, where people are finding that there are PDFs. So you can go to the DOJ website and go into the file, into the database. And there are PDFs that if you change the URL to like MOV, it's actually a movie file.
01:17:57
Ben
Um, And it's like it's like footage, it's like the jail cell footage.
01:18:04
Zach
Yeah, I heard about that.
01:18:06
Ben
um And it's videos where there's like a whiteboard blocking the the camera.
01:18:13
Ben
It's pretty wild.
01:18:15
Zach
Yeah, like, at this point, it's just like,
01:18:19
Zach
Because I've searched in those files just to see. I'm not reading everything, right? I have no... But, like, what... You know, who's in here? Just, like, type in random shit, and it's like, oh okay, wow.
01:18:33
Zach
And to be completely fair to a lot of the people whose names are in there, a lot of them, like, for instance, right? Bob Iger is in there a couple times, right?
01:18:46
Zach
But the context is very important, right?
01:18:47
Ben
Oh, really?
01:18:50
Ben
Sure.
01:18:52
Zach
He ended up on there because there was some news roundup that got emailed to Jeffrey Epstein that happened to feature in a headline that said Bob Iger's name.
01:18:59
Ben
Yeah.
01:19:03
Ben
Yeah.
01:19:05
Zach
So he's in there a couple times. All of the context is that. So it's like, sure, he was named in there, but also that there is no implication of anything happening.
01:19:17
Zach
On the opposite side of that spectrum, there's somebody like the president who...
01:19:24
Zach
There was a sheet of tips that the FBI got of victims' testimonies.
01:19:32
Zach
that alleged some pretty wild things and horrifying things.
01:19:38
Ben
Oh God, yeah, there is. ah just i just looked up Bob Iger. Yeah.
01:19:42
Zach
Yeah. So it's like, he's in there, but the context says it's really not something he should be yeah like, you know what I mean? But like the case of other people, you know, you got to read what's there.
01:19:58
Ben
Interesting.
01:20:00
Ben
I also saw cases where there's like where the word D-O-N
01:20:07
Ben
or like the word don't was redacted.
01:20:11
Zach
Yeah.
01:20:12
Ben
As in they just looked up, they did like a search for D-O-N and then yeah.
01:20:16
Zach
Yeah. oh The most obvious. Fuck.
01:20:22
Zach
Oh, man. It's cooked. But yeah, I think, um you know, those of you who are acquainted or close to people that are staunchly on the right, gently try to use this as a, gently try to use this as a moment to get, to break, to have a breakthrough, right?
01:20:48
Zach
And don't be argumentative.
01:20:51
Zach
just ask the ask the right kind of questions.
01:20:55
Zach
Like if people say, oh, this guy's in the files, then you go well, the FBI said that Epstein wasn't running a trafficking ring, so what's it matter?
01:21:06
Zach
And if the...
01:21:06
Ben
I just saw.
01:21:07
Ben
Also, like, hold on. One thing that's crazy, too, is like, who's just using Gmail for gent for general notifications? Or like
01:21:15
Zach
Apparently a lot of people.
01:21:18
Ben
like, couldn't use WhatsApp? Or, you know, like,
01:21:23
Ben
Who the fuck is using Gmail just for like a chat, like in a chat thread?
01:21:28
Zach
Yeah. totally and like Just brazenly. Because you'd think some of this shit would have been encrypted or something. No. No.
01:21:36
Zach
It's on fucking Google servers.
01:21:39
Ben
Pizza lunch, they will take Uber.
01:21:42
Zach
All right. All right. Well, as much fun as this topic has been, i actually have something even more fun for us to discuss.
01:21:53
Zach
But I, I, I say that I'm being serious. Um,
01:21:58
Zach
Our buddy Coaster Justin sent us in some audio a while back that i we didn't play because we weren't recording.
01:22:11
Zach
We took some time away, Coaster Justin. I'm sorry. i had a I didn't. My wife had a baby, and that's a that tends to make things a little busy.
01:22:23
Ben
Oh, yeah, that's right. I saw this. i saw this. OK. So
01:22:26
Zach
So I got the audio ready. I haven't listened to it.
01:22:30
Ben
OK.
01:22:32
Zach
So I'm hearing this for the first time as well. So I don't know if we'll respond in real time or what. let's ah But let's let's roll it, yeah?
01:22:42
Ben
Sure.
01:22:43
Zach
All right.
01:24:38
Zach
Okay, I got a notepad.
01:25:41
Zach
All right, you go ahead first.
01:27:44
Ben
right.
Theme Park Branding and Ride Renaming
01:28:01
Zach
All right. Well, Justin, thank you as always for sending in that very well thought out ah question and response.
01:28:12
Ben
also ah I also got a vivid flashback to no coaster con and probably awaits when King's Island was given a presentation and he's like, hold on. How did he say it? It's so vivid in my memory. Cause I remember we both saw it and we laughed. Um,
01:28:36
Ben
like It was like, I'm sorry, I think I speak for everyone, but what the heck kind of name is Flight Deck for a roller coaster? but
01:28:46
Zach
He was right.
01:28:47
Ben
on the On the, yep, 100% though. He was saying what everyone was thinking.
01:28:56
Ben
um
01:28:57
Zach
All right. So I made a notepad. Okay. I'm going to just say it right here. i don't know. i didn't know the the shops or ah restaurants names.
01:29:12
Ben
Yeah, I think the shops and names, you could probably just name, like, i don't know, New Orleans Gifts or Yankee Harbor, whatever, Provisions. you know like Those could be whatever.
01:29:25
Ben
Just theme the gift shops to the to the section.
01:29:29
Ben
But also, too, like it kind of is it kind of is exciting to think about the possibility of this because the DC theming is a little... It's little gaudy.
01:29:41
Ben
It kind of takes away from the potential theme of the park. But also, there's some rides I just cannot imagine them not being DC. Like...
01:29:52
Zach
Well, yeah, there's there's two specifically in my mind that are just damned if you do, damned if you don't, right? Top of that list is the Justice League.
01:30:05
Zach
It's a shooting dark ride with specific show elements. Like, if they took stuff out of it,
01:30:15
Zach
It wouldn't work anymore.
01:30:18
Ben
Well, yeah, you'd have to
01:30:19
Zach
They'd have to spend.
01:30:21
Zach
a ton of of money. Updating it.
01:30:26
Ben
I wonder, though, if that one... If maybe though there's a... like If that one has licensing per the ride. Like, I wonder if that's a special case or something, because...
01:30:38
Ben
That ride has, you know, it has like video it that was produced by a company, which I'm assuming would have had to have the licensing before they even built the attraction and sold it to Six Flags.
01:30:52
Ben
So,
01:30:53
Zach
If I'm not mistaken, that's a Sally?
01:30:55
Ben
yeah. So I wonder, I wonder how that works if like, but and even Sally probably makes the ride vehicles and stuff, but then I'm assuming there's some third party that they work with that does all of the,
01:31:08
Ben
you know, like all the video effects and produces the video and the game aspect to it. so i don't know. i wonder, I think, i mean, I have no idea, but I would assume that that license for that ride might be different than the roller coasters, but I don't know.
01:31:26
Zach
It may or may not be, but yeah, that one I think is just intrinsically linked in a way that like, it's hard to visualize like without like some budgetary constraints that,
01:31:32
Ben
Yeah. Yeah.
01:31:41
Zach
what could replace the theming of Justice League. Because, like, conceptually, it's hard to even picture, like, the Winnie the Pooh-style ride you're talking about, Justin.
01:31:47
Ben
Yeah, right.
01:31:56
Zach
ah You know what I mean?
01:32:00
Ben
Yeah.
01:32:01
Zach
Like, it's... I don't know. Uh, so I'm just gonna, i am gonna cop out on that one and just say, I got, I got nothing for justice league.
01:32:12
Ben
Yeah, same. That's the only one that doesn't work. I think the most interesting out of all of that is probably Superman and Batman. Those are the two hardest ones
01:32:22
Zach
Yeah, I'm going to run down his list real quick. So Metropolis Plaza, we can skip that one because that's linked to Justice League, which I'll be honest, I didn't even realize that that was a technically its own area. I mean, I guess it makes sense because it's not Southwest.
01:32:41
Zach
I guess.
01:32:43
Ben
Yeah, i didn't even know what the fuck that was.
01:32:46
Zach
That was part of Southwest when the amphitheater was there, but I guess... It just seems like weird if it's not a part of Southwest when like Southwest bathrooms are there.
01:32:58
Zach
And then like on one side is the transition to County fair and on the other is just like s smack into Southwest. But yeah, I don't know.
01:33:09
Zach
um Anyway, DC universe. um He said Orleans place. So I guess we can't use that or a Yankee Harbor.
01:33:20
Ben
that's fine though I i mean i agree with that though that that's the only thing that really makes sense like yeah yeah
01:33:24
Zach
Well, that's what I was thinking too, is like, bring it back to what it was, just make a Yankee Harbor, because it was always better as Yankee Harbor anyway.
01:33:33
Ben
yeah anything that originally had a theme that was changed to DC is an easy flip but mm-hmm
01:33:42
Zach
And if they could bring back the original Yankee Harbor music, Come on. That super 70s drunken sailor. Oh my God. Forget about it.
01:33:57
Zach
Okay. So Superman.
01:33:59
Zach
Well, if we want to be real classic fucking six flags, save money and use a name that you've already copyrighted, we could go with Tatsu.
01:34:13
Ben
Yeah, Tatsu works. It also doesn't feel like a big step down because they already have that name in their chain. Yeah.
01:34:23
Zach
But it could it could also, they've incorporated Cedar Fair's existing trademarks, right? So we could also go with something like Raptor
01:34:34
Zach
Talon.
01:34:36
Ben
Yeah, I think Talon, I think out of those two, I think Talon for Batman works, not Flight Deck. Flight Deck was a dumb one.
01:34:45
Zach
Yeah, Flight Deck sucks.
01:34:48
Ben
The only thing, though, is like how do you incorporate some of the original theming? like If you wanted to keep the whole you know like the tunnel and the station and all that stuff, like there maybe,
01:35:04
Ben
i don't know. Villain. i don't know. Call it villain or something. i don't know.
01:35:10
Ben
Weirdly, maybe Medusa.
01:35:13
Zach
Okay.
01:35:15
Ben
feel like since Medusa was a yellow floorless coaster, I guess a yellow invert with sort of that industrial theming could kind of work, I guess. I don't know.
01:35:27
Ben
But I do like, i think tatsu for I think Tatsu for Superman is like the best. Because Tatsu, yeah, i like I like that one the most.
01:35:38
Zach
Yeah, I like that too. um For Batman,
01:35:44
Zach
it's in Yankee Harbor, right?
01:35:47
Ben
Mm-hmm.
01:35:47
Zach
I'm going to be honest here. I think it's a very signature ride for Great America. The first inverted roller coaster in the world. The park it's at is Great America. And it drove me nuts that Great America never had a coaster called this.
01:36:04
Zach
I'm going Great American Scream Machine.
01:36:08
Ben
For Batman? True.
01:36:09
Zach
Yeah, I know it's an antiquated name, right? It sounds kind of old school, right? But why did Great America never have a Great American Scream Machine?
01:36:22
Zach
And if there was going to be one ever, what's like the most signature Great America rides of signature Great America rides? It's either Batman or Whizzer.
01:36:34
Ben
I mean, I would say Eagle.
01:36:37
Zach
Fair, but American Eagle already fits the idea of Great America.
01:36:41
Ben
Yeah.
01:36:43
Zach
And between Batman and Wizard, Batman's more more aligned with a scream machine.
01:36:52
Ben
Sure, yeah.
01:36:54
Zach
Plus, you could keep some of the theming.
01:36:59
Ben
like the cop car and stuff. I suppose it is pretty American.
01:37:03
Zach
Yeah. You can keep the theming. It would be fine. but Yeah. ah For Dark Knight...
01:37:16
Zach
um
01:37:18
Ben
we We joked about this. Mr. Six is DUI whatever. Like the It's him. It's like him getting a DUI driving the the bus.
01:37:32
Ben
Gets into a car accident.
01:37:36
Ben
Do you like Mr. I don't know. Mr. Six is crazy bus or crazy taxi or something like that.
01:37:41
Zach
Yeah, I like that. And they repaint the cars yellow.
01:37:46
Ben
hmm.
01:37:47
Zach
Put the Six Flags logo on the side. The shit's just blasting We Like to Party.
01:37:53
Ben
Yeah,
01:37:53
Zach
Which would be perfect for people on psychedelics.
01:37:59
Zach
um Yeah, no, I think that would be... i'm i'm feeling that one for sure. Okay, Aquaman. Aquaman. I mean, I always liked Yankee Clipper.
01:38:13
Ben
yeah Yankee Clipper is fine.
01:38:16
Zach
But you could also do, like, one of those weird fucking names and be, like, the Clanky Yipper. Okay, the DC Villains Swing.
01:38:32
Zach
ah I mean, yeah, I i was just literally about to say, there i had no problem with Whirlygig.
01:38:35
Ben
Just make it whirly gig.
01:38:42
Ben
I didn't even know they rethemed that actually.
01:38:45
Zach
Yeah, you see, everything in DC Universe needed to be DC-themed.
01:38:50
Ben
that makes sense. Yeah.
01:38:53
Zach
Which is also why V2 is now called Flash Vertical Velocity. And we have to rename it.
01:39:01
Ben
Yeah.
01:39:03
Zach
Um...
01:39:05
Zach
How about steel venom?
01:39:07
Ben
Steel Venom. Yeah, that one that one works for the Impulse. I mean, even V2, like the original name was fine. It didn't really make sense, but...
01:39:16
Zach
No.
01:39:18
Zach
Well, I mean, V2 made more sense than vertical velocity.
01:39:22
Ben
Yeah, true.
01:39:25
Zach
I also like the idea of giving it like a an off the wall name like like Mr. McGillicuddy's uppy downy spinny backwards forwards machine ABAB
01:39:41
Ben
Up, down, left, right.
01:39:50
Zach
um Joker
01:39:54
Ben
What are the Cedar Fair ones called? Yeah,
01:39:58
Zach
Tombali?
01:39:59
Ben
yeah I guess that's fine.
01:40:01
Zach
yeah
01:40:03
Ben
Do it as a... What was the wild mouse called? Raging Cajun. Just make it Raging Cajun.
01:40:10
Zach
so yeah, there you go But wait, it's in Yankee Harbor.
01:40:16
Ben
Oh yeah, that's right.
01:40:17
Zach
So it should fit that theme somehow. Could it be... um Okay, hear me out on this one.
01:40:30
Zach
Hear me out.
01:40:33
Zach
You repaint one of the rails red and the other one blue.
01:40:37
Zach
And it's called Patriot.
01:40:40
Ben
That works. Kind of looks like the Airy Force color scheme.
01:40:46
Zach
Yeah, and then you put white stars on the cars.
01:40:50
Ben
Yeah. so
01:40:50
Zach
I think we got a winner there.
01:40:53
Zach
And then the last one was Justice League, which we we discussed. that's a we're We're out on that one.
01:41:00
Ben
Yeah, that one's fun. Just play videos of like Tub Girl or something.
01:41:06
Zach
Escape the Tough Girl.
01:41:11
Zach
Oh, the smell is awful.
01:41:15
Zach
Well, uh, thanks you again. Thanks you. Thank you again, Justin, for sending that in. Sorry it took so long for us to get to it, but we appreciate your patience. Uh, thanks for the little prompt. We appreciate it. It's a fun to get some interactive content. Um,
01:41:34
Zach
If you want to send us something, MP3 is easiest. Send your favorite coaster sucks at gmail.com. We will play it on the show. We won't preview it.
01:41:45
Zach
So send it in.
01:41:48
Ben
Potentially edit.
Podcast Recurring Themes and Listener Engagement
01:41:49
Ben
Just don't go all theme park predictions on it. but
01:41:56
Zach
Yeah, I would say like maybe like let's let's try to not exceed. Two minutes. really 90 seconds
01:42:06
Zach
unless it's really, really good stuff.
01:42:11
Ben
Well, at first I thought he was going to go through every single park with DC areas.
01:42:16
Zach
Me too. I was a little nervous.
01:42:18
Ben
so
01:42:22
Zach
That was the right amount, Justin. So good, good stuff.
01:42:26
Ben
It is honestly, that is probably the most interesting thought experiment we can have in the chain right now. Cause that's going to be a kind of a big deal. I mean, especially like rethemening something like Batman.
01:42:39
Ben
There's so like with all the Batmans in the chain, like Mr. Freeze, I don't even know.
01:42:44
Zach
It's going to be like RCT. Like they didn't have Batman the ride.
01:42:46
Ben
yeah
01:42:48
Zach
And I always kind of thought, why didn't they just call it the ride?
01:42:52
Ben
Yeah.
01:42:52
Zach
And that's what it's going to be at all the six flags parks.
01:42:57
Zach
Cause everyone will just call it Batman anyway.
01:43:01
Ben
Yeah, that's going to be a hard one for people to quit. No one's going to adopt the new name. And I also never realized, too, in the Cedar Point or the, fuck, in the Roller Coaster Tycoon,
01:43:18
Ben
Like I just opened the magic mountain one I just realized I don't have any of the, the DC stuff that makes sense. So,
01:43:28
Zach
No, and Superman's called The Escape.
01:43:33
Ben
Oh yeah. this is
01:43:36
Ben
This is a cool park though. It's too bad they didn't build the other stuff.
01:43:43
Zach
Yeah, no, I know.
01:43:46
Zach
But ah yeah, thank you, Justin. Appreciate that. And yeah, I'm not looking forward to the inevitable consolidation coming to the Six Flags parks.
01:43:58
Zach
But ah yo, dude, we are approaching the two hour mark.
01:44:04
Ben
Well, shit.
01:44:05
Zach
I feel like that's that's a respectable time to cut it off.
01:44:09
Ben
Yeah. Oh, for sure.
01:44:11
Zach
Because otherwise people who are listening to this while driving may be asleep.
01:44:11
Ben
I mean,
01:44:18
Ben
the only time it's good to go over two hours or like, our one if there's like true coaster episodes over two hours, that's fun. But
01:44:27
Zach
That or when we have like a guest who's really interesting. Like that first time we had ah Sean Flaherty on and we recorded for like six hours.
01:44:32
Ben
yeah.
01:44:39
Ben
Yeah, what was the... self-critique here. There's a topic that we've probably brought up the last like four episodes, and then we keep going back to it. Was it was it fast food? No.
01:44:52
Ben
I don't remember what it was, which probably... I don't want to think about it to start talking about it again, but...
01:44:57
Zach
Okay, leave us a comment. tell us to Go on our Discord. Tell us to shut the fuck up about whatever the topic was that we've been bringing up incessantly. That's obviously not roller coasters or theme parks.
01:45:11
Ben
Hey, at least this week it went into British TV, which is, I think, a new... That's a new... That's a new untapped area.
01:45:21
Zach
I mean, we've spent a lot of time on this podcast talking about substance use.
01:45:26
Ben
Yeah.
01:45:26
Zach
So I think the like the opposite of that is uncharted territory for us.
01:45:34
Ben
Insufferably sober. That's the new...
01:45:37
Zach
Yeah.
01:45:38
Zach
Straight edge as fuck. ah
01:45:38
Ben
Although that's kind of...
01:45:42
Ben
Straight edge, straight coaster club.
01:45:45
Zach
Straight edge coasters. Ha ha ha.
01:45:49
Zach
Except I'm out.
01:45:52
Ben
That was a fun one.
01:45:52
Zach
Back to.
01:45:53
Ben
I keep forgetting about, honestly, like the the straight coaster club was, didn't it didn't live in my brain for that very long. I kept forgetting about it. But that was a fun little bit.
01:46:08
Zach
Well, quick, register the ah URL, get it going.
01:46:13
Zach
Straight coasters.
01:46:17
Ben
Travel to the, yeah, ride Falcon's flight in safety.
01:46:22
Zach
and And the model will be straight coasters for straight men.
01:46:23
Ben
Although.
01:46:31
Zach
Put a little American flag underneath.
01:46:31
Ben
I'm getting. Yep.
Closing Remarks and Future Plans
01:46:37
Ben
Straight Dave.
01:46:40
Zach
We all know how well that ended.
01:46:43
Ben
I need to watch that movie again because that movie, that movie's I think crossed the 15 year mark.
01:46:50
Zach
I remember watching that in the theater and the scene where they're at the market research for the TV show.
01:47:03
Zach
it's just a dick spinning like 30 seconds straight. These two old ladies just walked out.
01:47:18
Zach
Good times. Sasha Baron Cohen was is is hilarious.
01:47:26
Ben
wonder that's on YouTube.
01:47:26
Zach
But.
01:47:29
Zach
That scene.
01:47:33
Zach
I feel like that that scene probably walked a lot of people.
01:47:37
Ben
Yeah.
01:47:39
Zach
It was a very... was a choice. So... ah Anyway. You got anything else, Ben?
01:47:50
Ben
No, all good. place for this week.
01:47:53
Zach
Watch Bruno.
01:47:56
Ben
Yeah, I need to I just found the clip.
01:47:59
Zach
As for me, I'll be reading the novelization.
01:48:07
Zach
um That was really stupid.
01:48:11
Zach
All right. Well, thank you all for listening. We appreciate it. We're trying to to do this more regularly and get back on a good schedule. So it's a lot of fun to do this and I hope you're having fun listening. Yeah,
01:48:26
Zach
yeah we'll talk to you all later.
01:48:29
Ben
I just saw the dick.
01:48:29
Zach
Until next time.
01:48:33
Zach
Until next time, your favorite coaster sucks.
01:48:35
Ben
Favorite coat socks. sucks