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Zach: I'm Zach, and I'm old enough to remember when 20 bucks could get you an obscene amount of food at Taco Bell.
Ben: I'm Ben and I'm having a little bit of a age crisis myself after playing Tony Hawk Pro Skater remastered 3 plus 4.
Ben: The music though the same though, which is fun, but know. fun but ah
Zach: Which is a very old person thing to say.
Ben: that's
Zach: ah
Ben: ah know Also, the remastered version of it is basically they just used AI to like bump the resolution and add you know new content.
Ben: um Songs are also insanely censored. like Words that don't need to be censored are censored.
Zach: Oh good, it's the Walmart version.
Ben: Yeah. Yeah.
Ben: I don't know. I don't know if it was worth the money, but I played it for 20 minutes. had my fun.
Ben: Did you ever play that game with... ah This was a pretty big cultural thing in our age, I feel like, too. we
Zach: Of course.
Ben: I mean, that was like that was like one of the biggest games in high school, I remember.
Zach: Yeah, I played the original Tony Hawk Pro Skater on N64. Because Because that's how old I am.
Ben: And that's the version that was, you only had two minutes to basically do as many challenges as you could.
Zach: i think so.
Ben: There was no free skate.
Zach: ah i can't recall.
Ben: Yeah. I think that was the first one where it also came, dude, it came in a demo.
Zach: But...
Ben: It was like a demo game that came with a, like dominoes or something at one point or a cereal box.
Zach: It's a good game.
Ben: Yeah, remember the PlayStation demo discs?
Zach: Yeah. um I never had a PlayStation though, so they were never of... like i they i would see them and I'd be like, oh, those those look fun. Because you know Nintendo had cartridges, you'd never get shit like that.
Ben: Yeah.
Ben: I mean...
Zach: Again, as a Nintendo kid, yes, Spyro and Tomb Raider, all that looked pretty cool. Just out of reach.
Ben: Yeah, I remember too, like, even thinking as a kid that I thought N64 looked better than PlayStation. And that was always like in a that was always a debate between the two consoles.
Zach: Well, yeah, I mean, i did I did play a good amount of GoldenEye and Banjo-Kazooie and Super Mario 64 and Diddy Kong Racing, so, you know.
Ben: Yeah.
Ben: Yeah.
Ben: Well, yeah, that first year it felt like every single home, everyone, I pretty much, well, not everybody, but a lot of people I knew, it seemed like everybody had that council.
Zach: The goddamn cool kids had that console.
Ben: Yeah. We had the fucking count. We had it when it came out. i was always, i remember like even, even as a six year old being shocked that my parents actually bought that for Christmas.
Ben: Yeah. Tendo has a good grip on the culture, unlike other councils, I think.
Zach: Yeah, i
Ben: I mean, I don't know about nowadays. I don't know what the fuck. all this I see all this shit with the Switch, but I've never picked one up in my life.
Zach: I've played a Switch. It's fine. You can play the old games on it, which does and it'll play the N64 games with better graphics right in your hand.
Ben: Yeah.
Zach: Which, yeah again, old enough, I was there when N64 originally came out, so to have it look better and the entire console is in your hand is like, this is crazy.
Ben: Yeah, I mean, that's cool. I guess the thing with the Switch, though, is that at what point do video games just become like a mini tablet with an emulator on it?
Zach: Yes.
Ben: that's kind of what That's kind of what the Switch seemed like, where you have to go to the cloud to download games. There's no Which, or whatever, that makes obviously makes more sense, but still. There's no there's no more defined lines with gaming consoles anymore. Everything is just a computer that where you go onto the internet and download the games, and you don't own it.
Zach: Correct.
Ben: Yeah.
Zach: Except for that system that Soulja Boy was selling.
Ben: Wait, what was that?
Zach: It was a knockoff Chinese um Game Boy that had like all the knockoff games in it.
Zach: It was just funny because it was Soulja Boy and he was like out there hawking them like on fucking Hot Ones and know Hot 100 Breakfast Club and shit. breakfast club and shit
Ben: Wait, when was this?
Zach: I don't know, 10 years ago.
Ben: Oh, okay.
Zach: I'm old. i Fuck. Make me own up to it so many times. God damn it.
Ben: Well, because I see one photo where it looks like it's a it's a Game Boy Advanced.
Ben: Like handheld.
Ben: And then... I, it kind of looks like a switch, I guess. There's like a handheld version then there's the console. But okay, weird.
Zach: Yeah, he he went on a full-blown promo like press tour to try and sell those.
Zach: It was... i mean, I'm also old enough to have been there when Soulja Boy was originally doing his thing.
Ben: Yeah. Yeah. Do you remember? Okay. So this is another like nineties thing, but do you remember the, what was it? The Zavix gaming council?
Zach: No. what What? what
Ben: It was on any, uh, any Nickelodeon show. So like, have you ever watched like really old Nickelodeon reruns? Like, um, Well, what's funny about this is that I remember watching these reruns 20 years ago that were old reruns of Nickelodeon shows like Double Dare and stuff. But they were always, you know, it was like every participant gets a Zavix console. It's an advanced video game, whatever.
Ben: I don't know when it was from. Maybe it's maybe it's the late 90s. Yeah. but
Zach: if it's double dead, then its it might be from the eighty s
Ben: I know it was 90s for sure because I remember seeing these things inside of Walmart, but it's a thing that I never saw anybody ever own. It's, a yeah, Zavix. It was almost like a Wii.
Ben: Like the like early version of the Wii because it had sports games. There was like bowling that had an actual bowling ball controller and like a baseball with an actual bat. Yeah.
Zach: many TVs would have been broken.
Ben: Yeah. Yeah. yeah Huh. Yeah, the Zavix. Hold on, I gotta see when this was one this was out. Okay, so this was 2004.
Ben: So this was only... yeah this was like only two years and before the Wii. Interesting.
Ben: Yeah, I just remember it was like, ah i don't know, a long time ago watching like Nickelodeon reruns and They were like selling these things or giving them away to the audience or whatever.
Zach: It's like, can it run Rollercoaster Tycoon? No.
Ben: The, uh,
Zach: it can run Lee Carvello's putting challenge.
Ben: I'm gonna look this up quick. Oh, dude, it was totally the Wii.
Ben: Wow.
Zach: That's probably why we never heard of it, because Nintendo probably like bought the company.
Ben: Yeah, maybe that's, maybe, shit, maybe that's exactly what happened.
Ben: Radio Shack, Toys R Us, Best Buy.
Zach: Yeah, success story after success story there.
Ben: Crazy Dreamcast. That one was a fun one.
Zach: Dreamcast, ah you know, like that. I'm pretty sure that was the first console that had like Internet connectivity.
Ben: Yeah.
Zach: But like it was like 1999. So like you couldn't play against somebody else in real time or anything.
Ben: For some reason, the Dreamcast seems like a council Rob Alvey would be playing in like the mid-2000s still.
Zach: yeah well I mean, that would make, that would yeah, that that really checks out for some weird reason. Like, he'd be, like, bragging about it like it was a flex.
Zach: Like, oh, no, like, the games are like, really good and the graphics are a little bit, like, just sharper.
Ben: Yeah, well, I do remember the the Dreamcast out of like the PlayStation, the N64, Dreamcast definitely did have the best graphics. It also had, um yeah, it also that online player thing, but I think just like, whatever, hd DVD versus Blu-ray, I think it just was like, you know, hit it entered the market at the wrong time.
Zach: Yeah, it was ahead of its time.
Ben: Yeah, it was it was like two years too late to be successful compared to N64 and PlayStation. But then two years too late for a lot. I don't know. I don't know what I'm trying to say. But yeah, it just it hit the wrong time. Because then it was like a year later, then suddenly PlayStation 2 came out.
Ben: And then suddenly the whole console was obsolete.
Zach: And that was the last console that Sega ever made.
Ben: Yeah.
Zach: Because I had a Genesis before N64 came out, and i liked it and I liked that a lot.
Ben: Yeah, the Genesis was cool. I remember playing that at my grandma's house.
Zach: Yeah, I remember bugging all the Sonic games and Echo the Dolphin.
Zach: I'm trying to remember. but There was like an Aladdin game I think I had.
Ben: Yep, i remember that.
Zach: yeah I don't know. I remember my sister and I played it a lot and it was fun. Always had a good time.
Ben: Oh, yeah, I'm just looking through this shit. Oh, yeah, dude, the the Dreamcast had, yeah, the Dreamcast graphics were actually pretty good.
Ben: That was the one thing I never liked about PlayStation. PlayStation graphics looked...
Ben: Like if you had a big TV, just like super pixelated and ah like lines and texture were wasn't very defined. Everything was almost blurry.
Zach: Well, I mean, that shit was made for tube TVs, right? So, like,
Zach: it kind of makes sense.
Ben: Holy shit, yeah. Some of these Dreamcast games are...
Zach: Those tube TVs were crazy.
Ben: Did you ever try to play ah like an n NES on one of those old school... um You know those like like the Boomer big screen TV where the screen was almost like cardboard because it was projection?
Zach: Yeah.
Ben: And it had the really big back, like the whole, the entire thing was like six feet away from the wall because of how big the back piece was to it or like the whole back section. And then the screen was like a, almost like a flimsy kind of felt like cardboard or like a, like it was like a plastic like sheet.
Ben: And those TVs, you try to put an NES up to that thing. And one pixel was like, I don't know that it was like a two by two inch pixel. per game, and you try to play.con on it, and it's just, you could point in any direction, the thing would hit.
Zach: You just have to be in the right, like, quadrant.
Ben: Yeah.
Zach: Fuck. Well, um, welcome back to your favorite coaster sucks. We're an all roller coaster podcast, obviously, but we'll sometimes delve into the topic of, uh, nostalgic gaming question mark.
Ben: I mean, gaming and coasters are fairly similar.
Zach: I mean, there's a lot of overlap, I'd say.
Ben: Yeah, I mean.
Zach: had an Xbox once I got to high school, but that's kind of where I stopped playing games so much.
Ben: Yeah.
Zach: Although i would I would play No Limits a lot in high school.
Ben: Yeah, No Limits and Roller Coaster Tycoon was probably the only game I've i've played my entire life frequently.
Zach: Yeah. um Same. Yeah. And I remember literally, it's crazy. I remember playing the original No Limits 1.
Zach: like I remember when 1.2 came out and you could build fucking wooden coasters and it was amazing. And I also remember when it was just RCT1 and the expansion packs and when RCT2 came out and how crazy and awesome that was.
Ben: Yeah, the banked, sloped pieces. Yeah.
Zach: That, the ride types and the like, to me, the like licensed six flags thing was so cool.
Ben: Yeah, it didn't feel, ah yeah, it was done actually pretty well because it didn't feel like cheap or like a money grab. It actually was pretty well done.
Zach: Yeah, agree. i was just obviously disappointed when that was new as Great America was not in there.
Ben: Oh, sure. Yeah. And as much as I tried to build Great America at that time, I had i did not have the skill level to do it.
Zach: No. Although, you know, there is one definitive rollercoaster tycoon version of Great America.
Zach: And that was built by our buddy who, um I think just for all everybody's sake, we'll just keep his actual name ah not said here. But if you know the one, why don't we use a screen name?
Zach: I think. Wizard. We'll just call him Mr. Wizard, right?
Ben: is ah Is his park online anywhere? Because I've always wanted to look for it.
Zach: I'm sure it is.
Zach: He's also a member of our ah Discord.
Zach: Which I guess... um
Zach: and we won't We don't have to get too in the weeds about it here, but our Discord may be changing platforms due to all the weirdness going on with Discord.
Ben: Yeah, and in some ways, though, it seems like they're already backing out of it. So, like, they're planning to do the average of age verification thing.
Ben: Which, yeah, I don't know. i don't know of any good alternatives. I'm kind of looking around.
Zach: Yeah, um that's the thing is first. First of all, if they don't go through with it, then I don't think we'll try to migrate anywhere and we'll try to keep everything as it is.
Ben: Yeah.
Zach: um But we're researching what potential alternatives there are. But all the details of that will be on our Discord for now. And if it moves, we'll make sure there's a... It's it's plenty known and visible. and Because the last thing that we want is for anybody to have to send a fucking ID to some company just to be a part of our little community.
Ben: I mean, you got to do it for porn, but you shouldn't have to do it for roller coasters.
Zach: Right? No IDs for airtime.
Ben: yeah the Yeah, the ID thing, what what's fucked up about it is like, i get it. Like, I get it from a liability standpoint, just how much...
Ben: fucked up shit people try to get away with on the internet i understand it but at the same time there's like a fundamental thing in my core that just says that it's fucked up to do but i don't know i guess i guess what's sketchy about it is like yeah send send us a your yeah take a picture of your id and send an image of your id and you know, to our system and we'll take care of it.
Ben: Don't worry, we'll dispose it.
Zach: Yeah. um Well, I mean, to be fair, Facebook has done that for a long time.
Ben: Have they?
Zach: Yeah, dude. That's how my original Facebook account got cooked.
Ben: Wait, so they made you send a fixture ID?
Zach: That's what they said. Cause like I had put my DJ name is my name on there at the time.
Ben: Okay.
Zach: And then somebody reported it, that it was a fake name and they immediately lock your account and they go, Oh, if you want to unlock it, you got to send us your ID. And then your name is only going to be the name that's on your ID. And I'm like, hell no.
Ben: okay
Zach: So my my original Facebook account got cooked. So I had a backup one that now I use. And ironically, it also has a fake name.
Zach: But... um
Ben: Yeah. For some reason, I took my profile photo off my Facebook like 10 years ago. um Every once so a while, though, I'm surprised by how people still find me, like who add me as a friend. Although I guess you can go off of people you made or like, you know, related friends or whatever, but
Ben: I only used it
Zach: Yeah, right. And yours yours has a tweaked name too.
Ben: Oh, yeah. Middle name is last name. Yeah.
Zach: Yeah, yeah. Like yours is less obvious, right? like And that's that's good. That's good. I'm so for that. Just like my picture, it's like you can't really see me that well.
Ben: Right. Yeah.
Zach: And I'm like, that's fine.
Ben: That is pretty hilarious thinking back how um like our generation dumped our entire life onto that website. I mean, it was basically ah for a lot of people, it still is like a digital scrapbook.
Zach: That was the thing that I hated losing about my old account was is all these pictures.
Ben: Yeah. Yeah.
Zach: Because it was like all the pictures that I had and friends had of me. Well, the pictures my friends had of me are still there, but the pictures I had uploaded are not there anymore.
Ben: Yeah.
Ben: Yeah, that's a hard one. There's a lot of shit like when you look back on it. It would be sad to lose. Like did you ever, you had a photo bucket, right?
Zach: No.
Ben: okay.
Zach: Like when I would do photo trip reports on like the gap or whatever, I would literally go through Facebook.
Ben: Oh, yeah, that's right. Okay, because that that did work. Yeah.
Zach: Yeah, it worked. You could fudge it with PHP easy enough.
Zach: You know, for the amount of like PHP I learned, I'm surprised I never learned any more coding.
Ben: That's a good one to learn because it's pretty easy. Same with um like MySpace HTML.
Zach: Yeah, like I was pretty proficient with PHP posting at a certain point, like with the gap and stuff and TPR and Midwest Coaster Madness.
Ben: hmm.
Zach: Not that it's worth anything to like, oh, look, I can, you know, hyperlink something right in the text.
Zach: Or the photos are right there.
Ben: Yeah.
Ben: It's, um I was just looking at this. It's, yeah, you literally drop the HTML code into like, you're just your bio.
Zach: Yeah, i remember that because I remember there would be websites on MySpace where it would be like, um not on MySpace, but where they'd be like custom glitter graphics.
Ben: Yeah. Yeah.
Zach: And it'd be the most Lisa Frank looking shit.
Zach: But it's like, and then it would have like ah an HTML code underneath it and be like, copy and paste this into your profile.
Zach: Yeah, MySpace too.
Ben: i what
Zach: Remember, MySpace got cooked and I had that music profile up there that had like old live clips of me and shit.
Ben: on the new myspace page okay yeah
Zach: No, the old one. That's all gone. Because remember, all of MySpace got cooked at some point.
Ben: yeah which thinking back on it it's crazy that that was never archived
Zach: Seriously.
Zach: And of course, I'm sitting here talking about my little fucking thing. There was like legit bands and artists who like their entire career was launched through there.
Ben: Yeah.
Zach: And that that shit is gone.
Ben: If only that happened to the, if only that happened to Facebook.
Zach: Right.
Ben: I mean, that happened to Facebook in 2026, that would actually be pretty funny.
Zach: It'd be a good thing.
Ben: Yeah.
Zach: i mean, geez, YouTube went down for like two minutes the other day and the internet about lost it its mind.
Ben: See, we need more that. I love that shit. There was also a big one in, uh, I think it was like 2001 where Facebook or all meta platforms are down for six hours, but it was, it was like a Monday morning. it was, uh, you know, between like eight and 2 PM or something.
Ben: That was, i remember that being a big, kind of a big deal for people.
Zach: Yeah, right? I mean, like...
Zach: and a An EMP in the right place.
Ben: If we lose YouTube, though, we're to losing all the POVs. Every single like what's funny, though, is like how for a while, like ah a roller coaster POV on YouTube is kind of like a almost like a taboo thing.
Zach: No, we just all have to go back to theme park review. Ha ha!
Ben: And now there's just like so many of them.
Zach: Well, shit, Six Flags announced now that, like, they're just going to allow glasses cameras on rides.
Ben: likeker
Ben: I thought they already allowed that.
Zach: The blanket allowed across the whole chain, I guess.
Ben: Okay.
Zach: So, like, the meta Ray-Bans or whatever, just all good.
Ben: Yeah.
Zach: I guess just make sure you have a strap, but, like, you know.
Ben: I mean,
Ben: Sure.
Ben: Interesting. you remember our friend's old like spy glasses from 15 years ago?
Zach: Yeah.
Ben: Those are cool. That was, that was ahead of its time.
Zach: Yeah.
Ben: Actually, I remember we did those in a, or he wore um when we went to Canada's winterland, probably like 10 years ago now. He got a POV of everything. It works though. I guess like technically it's not the camera itself. It's just you holding something in your hand.
Ben: That's really the issue.
Zach: yeah
Zach: I think it's, yeah, the loose article part of the whole equation. But yeah, I think.
Zach: Like part of me does really want to get a pair of glasses like that.
Ben: Yeah, you can make your own. like Remember that British show? I think was called Peep Show.
Zach: No.
Ben: Oh. It was the is the guy that made Little Britain, i think.
Ben: you see If you've seen Little Britain.
Ben: Oh. Shit, there's some good British shows. Peep Show is like a it was like an entirely POV show, like a sitcom.
Ben: But every angle was like from the perspective of an actual person. basic They were basically like wearing the glasses. So if it was a conversation between two people, it would literally switch between whoever was talking And then it would just be like the other person in the, you know, in front of them.
Zach: Is that so that kind of sounds like, do you remember that comedy central show in the early 2010s called, I think it was like secret girlfriend.
Ben: Not really, but kind of. No. no
Zach: The whole thing was first person.
Zach: And like the audience was like a character.
Zach: So like the characters would be addressing the camera directly like, hey man, that's pretty fucked up or what, i you know what i mean?
Ben: Okay.
Ben: Okay. I see. Yeah. I kind of remember this.
Ben: Yeah. It was, it it was, it was similar to this, except every character in the show had a point of view angle. So whoever was talking, So like anytime there is a dial, anytime there is dialogue, the dialogue was coming from the person's POV.
Ben: So if there's two people talking, it would just switch back and forth between each of their POVs as they're talking.
Zach: Oh, interesting.
Zach: Interesting.
Ben: And it was... um I mean, it was okay. like it's it's not a super It's not super rule super rewatchable. um Just because like it is kind of a gimmick. But I think what's good about that show is that it's all about...
Ben: there's You pretty much never see somebody talking. you know what i mean It's like when someone's talking, they're watching the other person's facial expressions.
Ben: So like the whole show is about... like the actor's ability to, to like their, how their face reacts to what they're hearing. It's kind of a like, it's an interesting idea, but they had like 20 seasons of it.
Zach: Oh, wow.
Ben: ah kind of, kind of gets a little, kind of get the gist after a while, but yeah, it was, it was good.
Zach: It's like the longest show in British history.
Ben: No, British seasons are like five episodes. Yeah.
Zach: Yeah, but usually they're like one and done or maybe two.
Ben: Yeah, that's true.
Zach: Over there, it it's summed up because over there they call a season a series.
Ben: I've always wondered,
Zach: Holy shit. Series two.
Ben: so I wonder, I wonder, do they have multiple series in a year? Like are all series, do they start at the same time or do they just have new shows that come out between January and February 15th?
Zach: Yeah, or they're just like producing stuff so frequently that like if they have to do like another season of a show, do they just assume everything's canceled? like They write it out, they get the green light, okay, great. And then it's like, oh, it did really great. We got to do like more of that than like, oh, fuck, we struck the sets already.
Zach: like
Zach: The actors are all working on other shit. Yeah.
Ben: Huh. Yeah, I've never...
Zach: I don't know, man. England's crazy.
Ben: That's... Yeah, but like all... But yeah, you're right. Like every good British show has maybe like 12 episodes.
Zach: That's it. And then they're always done.
Ben: Yeah. Yeah.
Zach: And it's crazy because then there'll be like people will reference it. Like I like faulty towers. Right. And that's a pretty classic, well-known comedy because it's what's his name from Monty Python.
Zach: And it's it's well known and well, you know, like yeah critics all say, like oh, that's a, you know, a great sitcom and whatever. But like, yeah, I don't know, 15 episodes, maybe.
Zach: Which, um if there's people that are like way younger than us listening to, well, I mean, fuck, Lance listens to this. ah if you If you haven't heard of Fawlty Towers, I would highly recommend it.
Zach: There's only about 15 episodes or whatever. It's an easy binge.
Ben: Did you ever watch the IT crowd?
Zach: No, but I've heard of it and i feel like I should just because I've seen it on streamers so much. I'm like, huh?
Ben: Yeah, and um it's got a noel or noel Noel from great bit great british Great British Bake Off.
Zach: Oh, OK.
Ben: Also, like there only seems to be like six British actors ever in a generation, and they're just in every single show.
Zach: That's just because that's what we get in America.
Ben: Yeah, that's true.
Zach: We don't get like BBC fucking 38. You know what I mean?
Ben: Yeah, true.
Zach: You log into that BBC app and you start scrolling. I bet you'll find every British actor you've ever heard of. Plus more. Yeah.
Ben: do know that you need a TV license if you own, if you download the BBC app.
Zach: Oh, really?
Ben: Yeah, that's like that's like one of those like big like kind of right-wing talking points, points like kind of like matt the British MAGA kind of crowd.
Ben: So has something to do with ah like, what is it? I don't know. Obviously, there's some tax, right, that's collected that goes to the BBC. Yeah.
Ben: from whether it's through like TV sales or like antenna sales, I think like cable TV, when you like have a cable, so like TV subscription, there's a tax that goes to the BBC.
Ben: um And so then now everybody has laptops and tablets and shit and they're downloading the BBC app. And so they don't have a way to collect this tax. Yeah.
Ben: So you have to have a TV license in order to use, bb to stream BBC as a way to like, for BBC to get revenue.
Zach: I mean, it's a public service to
Zach: I'll go ahead and say the world. If you ever watched BBC news, I mean, it's, it's,
Zach: I prefer it to any American news outlet.
Ben: Yeah.
Ben: print What was the?
Zach: know I don't want to get controversial here, but ah BBC and Al Jazeera are probably a lot better than any of the networks or news outlets based in America.
Ben: What's the one we got? OAN.
Zach: I mean, look, there's a lot of high quality journalism happening on One America News and Fox News, Breitbart.
Zach: There's quality journalism all over this country.
Ben: My favorite are the, are like the, there's ones that come out of China where it's basically like a Chinese news station about American news. It's those are, those are fun to watch. Like every time I've like, it's like 2am and I, so I always would like stumble upon it scrolling through shit. And it's, it's always a fun watch.
Zach: I've never seen that, but I'm going to have to look for it now.
Ben: Especially if you're super high.
Zach: Oh, I will be.
Zach: So, yo, um
Zach: let's talk coasters.
Ben: Yeah, I know.
Zach: Some fucking purple ass track showed up at Great Adventure.
Ben: And this is the, that it's, so is it, is it, is this shit confirmed a mock spinner?
Zach: Well, the label said mock, but I don't know if it confirmed like the model.
Ben: Okay.
Ben: So, okay. So I guess with all, here's the thing with all that leaked, all the leaked stuff about the the phantom spy or whatever, i have a feeling that's probably going to actually what it is.
Ben: Cause it seems like there's just too much leaked stuff. for that to be not the case. And it seems like it also, well, also in our our modern times, it seems like anything that is leaked ends up actually being the real thing.
Zach: So wait, that was, go ahead.
Zach: Yeah. Well, and yeah, that's true.
Ben: There's no way to keep, like a park, a park is not able to keep a secret anymore. If you see like a legit, if you see like, start to see the blueprints and, you know, the like full recreation two years ahead of time in the parks. Like, no, this isn't what it is. We can't confirm this. And you know, it's probably real.
Zach: Yeah, it's crazy because, like, I remember fucking 20 years ago, ah you go on Screamscape and it would be the craziest, most unsubstantiated rumors.
Ben: Yeah.
Zach: It would be like, it would be like, they're going to build a fucking wooden 4D coaster at Magic Mountain.
Ben: Yeah, and it's like because somebody spotted spray paint lines in the parking lot.
Zach: and and a board of lumber.
Ben: Yeah.
Zach: And they'd be like, semi-confirmed question mark.
Ben: Yeah, now we got our theme park predictions.
Zach: Which are just as wild.
Ben: I know.
Ben: It's like part of me like kind of respects the hustle, but it's also, don't know.
Ben: It's just every time I watch one of those videos, it's just, I'm like, does this dude just make a new like a new no limits coaster every single day? And then just like, it's just like a, right? Like is is the joke on like everybody else? Like, is he actually the smart one who's like figured out a way to just like find a way to put out his no limit creations in a creative way.
Zach: fuck around on no limits and sell t-shirts
Ben: Yeah. Yeah. I mean, exactly.
Ben: Who wouldn't want to do that? Like what, what enthusiasts wouldn't want to do that as for a living.
Zach: but it also kind of feels like getting like being the alex jones of roller coasters
Ben: Oh yeah, for sure.
Zach: Where you're like, just gotta, you gotta like sit there and think about like, what's the, what can I do to top the shit I said yesterday?
Ben: i mean, that's, that's,
Zach: You know what I mean? like Oh, is RMC going to do a regular loop?
Zach: Yes. It's going to Carowinds. Like,
Ben: yeah literally it literally is InfoWars
Ben: if only he had a only if he had the Alex Jones accent like that'd be a fun show idea if you if there is a way to pull that off that'd be pretty fun
Zach: Folks, we're seeing a full-on revival of the Aerodynamics swinging suspended coaster. And it is coming to a very small park on the coast of Florida.
Ben: I think also too, it was like theme park predictions. Then it was keep riding coasters. And now it's.
Zach: yeah He that that channel has to change their name a lot because they end up in hot water because they go on Twitter and.
Zach: Say things that I don't agree with.
Ben: Wait, really? There's controversy.
Zach: Yeah. um Yes. A lot of things that I really don't care for.
Ben: Okay.
Zach: he
Zach: makes comments about um people whose
Zach: ethnic identity is dissimilar from his own.
Ben: Okay.
Ben: I mean, that doesn't surprise me.
Zach: And the real like the real coded dog whistly type.
Ben: Sure, yeah.
Zach: Like every time there's like a here's the context, right? Every time there's a ah news article about a fight at a haunt event.
Ben: OK, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Zach: Yeah, yeah. He says exactly what you would expect. Yeah.
Zach: And it's like you're a real piece of shit, aren't you?
Ben: He even kind of looks like Ozempic Alex Jones now. like
Ben: And he's got the um o classic, the American flag ah cross thing.
Zach: Yeah. Yep.
Ben: Okay.
Zach: Yep. Yeah. So every time there's like a news article about like a fight at a haunt or like, you know, the the like age restrictions at a park, he'll say exactly what you would expect.
Ben: OK, not surprised.
Ben: but
Zach: and then And then what happens is that like somebody will call him out, and then he'll just step in it further.
Ben: OK, sure, yeah.
Zach: You know?
Zach: he'll get to He'll get to the the whole, like, like i he there was one time where he straight up got to the whole, like, well, if people don't have fathers present in their life,
Ben: Oh my god.
Zach: yeah and you're like Holy fucking shit. It's like the Bill Burr bit about like wheel out the podium.
Ben: watching.
Zach: So yeah.
Ben: watching
Zach: So next time, next time there's a news article about like a fight breaking out of the theme park. Go find that guy's Twitter.
Ben: with
Ben: Looks like a...
Zach: and then And then it'll happen, and then he'll change his name.
Ben: I mean, it definitely looks like a real, you know, like a real trad life kind of vibe.
Zach: Yeah, I get like real like Hulk Hogan van fan vibes.
Zach: And I mean like 2025 Hulk Hogan.
Ben: Yeah.
Zach: But yeah, um
Ben: And there's, there's, okay. I wanted, this is, this is the the problem though of like, um, just the YouTube world of,
Ben: there's a lot of channels. Like I'm, I've always been very obsessed with YouTube channels that have less than like 50 subscribers, but have like a bunch of videos. mainly from like not some, I mean like not so much in the coast world. Cause like, I feel like it's pretty easy to generate like decent content in theme parks. If you're into theme parks, like it could be the worst video at a theme park ever, but if it has off ride footage and whatever, you know, like I'll probably still watch it, but I remember, um, Oh no, we can't, we can't discuss that. Nevermind.
Zach: Okay.
Ben: Um, I was gonna say, I do you remember though, there was this girl I went to high school with and I'll make fun of her because she gave me a shit about being gay probably back in like 2013.
Ben: um
Zach: Oh, that's a good move. That's age well.
Ben: Yeah. So I, I checked into a gay bar once in 2013 and then she messaged me and she was like, why did you check in at a gay bar? And then was like, and then oh the and then I was like, because I'm gay.
Zach: She's trying to get it
Ben: and she's like, oh, good for you, I guess, or something. um But then like lately, she's been like trying to get into like the whole, ah have you seen this jewelry shit?
Ben: It's like you live stream on Facebook and
Zach: it. It's like QVC, right?
Ben: Yeah, and it's like you have like a a table full of shit and then you're like holding shit up. you're like, okay, this number 13. Okay, like, okay, i'll start for $20, put it in the comments. You know, it's like a bidding thing.
Ben: i don't know.
Zach: Yeah, yeah, it's basically the new dropshipping, right?
Ben: Yeah, yeah. And there's also um like ring bombs. Have we seen that have you seen this shit?
Zach: No, what?
Ben: it's ah It's a piece of jewelry that's in a bath bomb. And then you that you start a live stream and you drop the bath bomb in like a bucket of water live on video.
Ben: So the idea is that you buy the bath bomb and you bid on it before you know what's inside of it. so it's like, okay, guys, I have this yellow bath bomb. We'll start the bidding at $5. And then people in the comments will bid it up.
Ben: And then once the bidding is done, it's like, okay, we're going do it, drop it in the water live on the on the stream. And then like the bath bomb fizzes and stuff. And they're okay, let's see what we got. Okay. it's ah It's a black a spider ring.
Ben: You know, it's like basically, remember those, ven ah the coin operated things or you put the quarter and you get the little plastic ball that you pop open. It's basically like that.
Zach: Yeah. This is making money.
Ben: i guess so. The problem is is that it's a pyramid scheme. So there's like one person who makes a bunch of money and who has a huge audience and a bunch of subscribers, but then like thousands of other people try to do it, but they don't have any fan, like follower base to actually make money off of it.
Ben: So they have like two, two or three viewers at a time. It's probably like friends or family.
Zach: That seems kind of degrading.
Ben: Yeah. Yeah.
Zach: Not going to lie. Trying to be...
Ben: So I watched, so this girl, this girl that gave me shit for being gay, i watched her do this for years. And I would always like, but sometimes I was the only person viewing her live stream.
Ben: um It's good popcorn entertainment when it's late at night. But yeah, that's like a big thing.
Ben: um And then her brother, Was trying to start a food review YouTube channel.
Zach: Keep it classy.
Ben: Yep. And it's like, hey guys, today we're reviewing nacho cheese Doritos. It's just like...
Zach: Oh, my God. You got to start somewhere, I guess.
Ben: I know, i know. And it's like filmed with a cell phone, vertical, no microphone, like sitting at ah at a kitchen table where there's like a cat messing around in the background and there's a TV on in the background and they're just like, okay, like let's open it up. And then like, yeah, this is pretty good. i really like the nacho cheese flavor.
Ben: Yeah, there's a nice flavor and there's a nice crisp, good crunch flavor. And then they like, you know, that you hold up the bag and you read the back of the bag for a second as you're eating one. and Yeah. Then the next one was M&M's. They reviewed eminem's
Zach: really stretching the possibilities of what the format can be.
Ben: That's why, like, um like this is... Yeah, nacho cheese. Like, if you just search for this, Doritos review.
Ben: And then you filter by views and you go to the very, very bottom. Like, it is the best entertainment. I want to find... There's got to be a search engine to, like, specifically pull, like, 10-year-old videos that have less than 100 views.
Ben: Because it's it's it's it's great.
Zach: I mean,
Ben: I love it.
Zach: i mean, let's be honest here. If you're reviewing that snacks, that's not even food.
Ben: Right, yeah.
Zach: That's like, you know,
Zach: yeah i still watch, um, fucking review bra.
Ben: Oh, yeah, that guy figured it out.
Zach: Oh dude, that guy's great. I'm like, he is the hardest working lizard in all of YouTube.
Zach: No, that dudes that that dude is great, though. And also, like, RIP that guy. i know he's not dead now.
Ben: Oh, is that a thing?
Zach: No, i just... He's been professionally... He started professionally drinking energy drinks before he was of legal age. And now he eats fast food professionally. Like, that's got a shelf life.
Ben: Sure. Although, i think he only does like one video a week and he doesn't eat the whole thing. So let's that's at least something.
Zach: Well, also he lives in Florida. So like, you know, context.
Zach: Okay. That was a really horrible joke.
Zach: Do, do I feel bad about making it a little bit? And it's a real damn shame. Our editing machine is broken.
Ben: That's okay.
Zach: Yeah, well, is what it is.
Zach: Fuck. um
Zach: Talking coasters, talking to YouTubers. um I do want to say on a serious note, ah because we didn't get to talk about it. ah we lost a We lost a real one.
Zach: Man, Adam the Woo.
Ben: Oh yeah, that's right. That happened recently.
Zach: Yeah, ah back in December. And that that really hit. That hit me hard. I had the pleasure of meeting my man on two separate occasions.
Ben: Yeah, that,
Ben: Yeah, that one was hard because I was like thinking about it. was like, dude, I think I watched like most of his early videos. like
Zach: That's what I'm saying, because like I know...
Ben: And everybody knew him, it seemed like. like Yeah. Yeah.
Zach: Yeah, for the first, like, four or five years of YouTube's existence, you and I were both pretty into it.
Ben: yeah
Zach: And, like, he was an early ah adapter, too. And so, like, yeah. And when he started his daily vlogs, I had pretty much been watching those not every single day, but I would say three to five a week.
Zach: Like, that was regular viewing for me for, don't know, like 15 years or some shit.
Ben: Yeah.
Zach: So... mean, we we lost a real one, man.
Zach: And then that...
Ben: Yeah, that's sad.
Zach: Yeah, it really is. Because my dude was 51. I feel... Yeah...
Ben: Now, like...
Zach: so i feel
Ben: Yeah, that's young. Especially now, like...
Zach: yeah
Ben: i mean, we're close, but...
Zach: Well, that's what I'm saying. it was That was ah part of what inspired me to decide, like, yeah, I think I'm going to take 2026 off from ah nicotine and alcohol and, you know, energy drinks.
Ben: Yep, that's a good idea. So she's like, yeah.
Zach: Because I ain't getting any younger.
Ben: Probably riding X2.
Zach: Yeah, right. That's got a shelf life.
Ben: actually wondered like, how many if there's anybody who's ridden a roller coaster but it didn't have repercussions for it like until 10 years later
Zach: Yeah, I wonder.
Zach: That's the thing is like. all the G forces and shit. Like, I know, like, is it like professional wrestling, right? You wrestle a match.
Zach: That's the equivalent of like a car crash worth of damage to your body. So like on that scale. Yeah. What, what on, on one to professional wrestling match, where does riding a roller coaster rank?
Ben: I mean, it it varies. There's some worse than others. my My number one would probably be Shell Razor definitely messed my neck up for sure. Like car level level, like car accident level mess up.
Zach: So Shell Razor is pretty much all the way at car accident then.
Ben: Yeah.
Ben: That's why i well every time I ride a ah go to a theme park these days, I got to do yoga, like like hardcore yoga for a good week before I ride a roller coaster just so i don't get that weird neck issue.
Zach: That's a good ass idea.
Ben: It works 100%. It totally works. Also, just don't ride B&Ms and you're fine.
Zach: That's.
Zach: That's a good ass idea. See, that's where I feel like drinking alcohol actually can be advantageous when you're riding roller coasters because it makes you a lot more limber and relaxed physically.
Ben: Oh, sure. Yeah.
Zach: You know, so like I could feel like that actually there would be some benefit there.
Ben: Oh, yeah. Like riding. It's like riding. Magnum back way back in the day, super, super, super drunk.
Ben: And just like, it's just like you're riding a mechanical bull. Just like. One hand on the lap bar pushing it up, other hand up in the air, and you just kind of like let it kick you around.
Ben: Especially when you're drunk. It's a lot of fun.
Zach: Yeah.
Ben: Wouldn't do it today, but good memories.
Zach: Well, i like I think you have a point, though. There's probably some physical repercussion for that.
Ben: Well, maybe. That one, yeah. Actually, probably that that one. i was to say, like, really? It's the... Like, I'm trying to think of the worst ones, like Hades, when it was running rough.
Ben: That one's definitely, like, long-term significant damage.
Zach: Okay, wait, now I'm thinking about it.
Ben: Like...
Zach: There was that study about the guy that rode Big Thunder Mountain Railroad at Disney World
Zach: and passed a kidney stone because of it.
Ben: Like, was this a good thing?
Ben: like whens you try of Like, was he trying to pass it?
Zach: I think that's open to interpretation.
Ben: Or...
Zach: i think so. hipp
Ben: How the hell do
Zach: I don't think it was just for science.
Ben: Oh, crazy.
Zach: But yeah, that's... And, you know, it's... ah Honestly, i don't know how they settled on Big Thunder Mountain Railroad at Magic Kingdom.
Zach: But, yeah, so... I think if the, I guess, vibrations of a roller coaster can pulverize a kidney stone enough to pass, then yeah, you're probably right. There's some physical repercussions.
Ben: Okay. I mean,
Ben: interesting. i wonder if that, I wonder if that works with like blood clots though.
Ben: In like a good way. Like if you have, like if you have a blood clot, if ah like a positive, strong positive G's would like,
Zach: I don't think there's any positive way to make it blood clot.
Ben: Yeah, I don't know.
Zach: Maybe the right combination of blood thinners and ah raging bull.
Ben: Oh, yeah. Although that was... a
Ben: Oh, no, that was... Or, like, the incident on Goliath. I think there was, like, an aneurysm or something on Goliath. The old one, when it was running without the trims.
Zach: Oh yeah, that's right. With some of the high G-forces, which is why they have the trims now. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So like, I don't know, dude. think it's definitely likely. Because I don't know that there, but the thing is, you know, for it to actually be studied, there'd be to be like some really like some hyper-specific guidelines.
Ben: Yeah, right.
Zach: You're talking about your neck. I think, yeah, like the the spinal cord in the neck is a good area to focus on. what What does it do?
Zach: Like, yeah, really, what does it do to your neck if you ride fucking ah prowler 40 times a year for 10 years, you know?
Ben: Got it.
Ben: Sure, yeah. There is as there is some study of people who ride jet skis um with uh literal that it's like compression of of like the neck the discs in the neck but also when you're riding a jet ski you could be riding a jet ski for like ah you know hours hitting waves constantly to do to do to do to do but i imagine a roller coaster over time probably is the same way
Zach: Yeah, dude And then take into account that a lot of us enthusiasts don't really ah put that much thought into our own health.
Ben: sure yeah
Ben: that's why theme park yoga is uh is critical do they it's it's it's i'm telling you it's life-changing um that i really had ever i never really had like that many issues before but um i guess i like i don't ever get i'm never i'm never sore when i get off of roller coaster it's more so just It's really just B&Ms that like the rattlingness will kind of like mess my neck up.
Ben: But um yeah, if I do the yoga, it tends to help a little bit.
Zach: I like that. We should develop a program.
Ben: Coaster yoga. i mean, like in China and Japan, they do like full on like stretches and stuff in the station. Have you ever seen those videos where they time the operations?
Ben: It's like a train comes in, everybody gets up, they clear the station, and then the ride attendants go to the gates. Before they open the gates, they make everyone do like stretches for three minutes. and then they let And then they open the gates and let you come in and sit down.
Zach: Yeah, dude, for real. I think i think we should we should come up with ah some some some ideas.
Ben: Cat-cow is a good one.
Ben: hold Learn to hold your downward dog for up to a minute.
Zach: We got to do easy ones. Like, we got to start with, chair yoga type of shit that people, like, enthusiasts can do on a bench at a park, you know?
Ben: for
Ben: Like a sit and be fit kind of thing.
Zach: Yeah, exactly. We are talking about coaster enthusiasts.
Ben: Yeah.
Zach: Because, like, here's here's the real deal, right? How many of us eat the shit at the parks or, like, fast food?
Ben: yeah that's another one oh nice
Zach: And admittedly, i am about to eat some Taco Bell tonight.
Zach: But I cook meals every other night.
Ben: yeah lately i fortunately like I don't really eat fast food but I do still eat out like i don't eat I really don't eat that great um
Ben: But at least when we cook at home, like really the main thing is like, don't eat processed shit. Just like eat the actual thing. Like if you want potatoes, just eat the actual potatoes.
Ben: If you want whatever. An egg dish dish, just eat actual eggs.
Zach: Yeah, my only exception.
Ben: eat actual vegetables, like cut, just like cut a vegetable and eat the vegetable.
Zach: That's what I cook a lot of, is vegetable dishes.
Zach: Although I do use, like, meat substitutes.
Ben: Are they, those are usually just like plant-based though, right?
Zach: Yeah, they're typically, like... Soy, pea protein, you know, like, but they're processed all hell.
Ben: Yeah.
Zach: Because that shit, it it turns into something that resembles, you know, ground beef or whatever.
Zach: But, you know, yeah, I tend to do, yeah, vegetables
Ben: Oh, here, going Oh, yeah.
Zach: Fiber also super important for everybody. Now I was going to ask you, um, and water like, and I want to seriously, I'm talking to our coaster people and our friends here, water and fiber guys and like yoga and not even complex stuff, but seriously, y'all, um,
Zach: and And now, right now, I'm speaking to everybody, but I'm especially speaking to people who I've known for a long time. We ain't getting any younger, y'all, so... Fucking let's let's all be mindful together, right? So we can keep on riding coasters together for a long time.
Ben: Keep riding coasters.
Zach: Just like that.
Zach: So this thing you sent, are we supposed to be talking about this, or...?
Ben: Hold on. Let's not give details because you never know what kind of, you never know where the crossovers are in the in the in the hobby.
Zach: but Yeah, right.
Ben: um but just as But just as like kind of the the cliches of things we typically make fun of, Like it hits, it's, it's to a t and just the, like the, like the amount of subscribers and just like the format of the video, it's the name.
Zach: I would like to just start off and say like very original in concept.
Ben: Yeah. Yeah, totally.
Zach: I've never heard of anybody mixing roller coasters and alcohol.
Zach: uh,
Zach: I like, especially since I've made a conscious decision to not drink this whole year. I'm like,
Ben: Oh, sorry, sir.
Zach: Oh no. Just like, i keep remembering running into that highly intoxicated a person at Knott's Berry farm.
Ben: Oh, yeah. Yeah, that one stuck with me. And I think that's a good... like think Like, thank God, like, we weren't... I mean, we weren't drinking at all that whole trip, but, like, it's a good... That was a good, like...
Ben: It was like a good like refresher. Like, a hey, like you could go in two different directions in your life and don't go that way.
Zach: Yeah. Yeah, that was like, that really was what kicked off me being like, i don't really know how much I like alcohol.
Ben: hmm.
Zach: Because I was like thinking back of all the times I've drank and I'm like, shit, have I ever been like that?
Zach: and I'm like, oh, fuck, I'm sure I have.
Ben: Well, also that dude is like 40. Like maybe a little.
Zach: But that's the thing is if you're above like 28, you're too old for that shit.
Ben: Yeah.
Zach: Like if you're, if you're getting like absolutely fucking smashed in your fucking like mid thirties, go to therapy.
Zach: You know what I'm saying?
Ben: Yeah, that was the...
Zach: i'm not I'm not trying to rag on people that enjoy some alcohol, right? There's plenty of people that enjoy it responsibly. Good on you, right? But I'm literally talking about the people that get, like, fucking blackout or close on even a semi-regular basis.
Zach: like Figure your shit out.
Ben: Well, always s think about like coming from Wisconsin, where like that was pretty normal. Like that, like unfortunately like Wisconsin lifestyle is is very common like that. And it's weird.
Ben: Lately as i as I've gotten older, like i I reflect on it when I go back home and it's, if there's like two camps of people. It's basically camps of people who are like, oh, like that's stupid and I'll stop. And then the ones that don't, the yeah, it's just, a I don't know.
Ben: Sometimes it's hard to, it's hard to look at. And I don't mean that in like, just cause I've, I've, I've got extended family that, and close family that definitely has that problem. And it's, it's always, it's a, it's a really tough one to deal with.
Ben: Um, I don't know.
Zach: I'm sure. yeah that's a whole other thing. It's like, just like,
Zach: don't know, man. Alcohol is very overrated as ah as a substance.
Ben: In that video,
Ben: I love the...
Ben: i was good Okay, so before we get to, in that video, with the one I sent you, they're giving credit to the off-ride and the POVs, but they're literally just filming.
Zach: Yeah.
Ben: It's like a camera on a tripod.
Zach: A TV.
Ben: Yeah, yeah.
Zach: they They didn't even bother to download the videos to throw them in the editor.
Ben: And there's a Noel, the Disney, there's one specifically where it's a holiday drink one.
Zach: Wait, what?
Ben: In one of the videos that they posted, there's one where they're just getting blasted in the kitchen.
Zach: Oh, fun.
Zach: Yeah, well, I'm trying not to be the, uh, the, the judgy non-alcohol person.
Zach: Because I have my things and they're not, they're not, that doesn't make me any better.
Zach: Just like straight edge people aren't better than any of us substance users.
Zach: But I do think when it comes to health, all of us could be a little more health conscious.
Ben: So we're to be launching coaster yoga.
Zach: I think that's a good idea and I think we should.
Ben: I've
Zach: Yeah, dude.
Ben: been binge watching that show.
Zach: Isn't it awesome?
Ben: It is. Well, it is good.
Zach: I wouldn't know.
Ben: But the.
Zach: Actually, awesome's a little far. Sorry.
Ben: Well, and no, I like, I actually really like it up until about season five, then things start get becoming more, a little bit of a stretch. Like, they really stretch out and dramatize the episodes at and the fifth season, but like, I still enjoy it a lot.
Zach: I like that. Isn't that around the time when like Tammy really gets a hold on her of herself and Amy starts going nuts?
Ben: Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Zach: Yeah, it was interesting to watch their whole dynamic flip. And honestly, it was good to see Tammy actually improve, at least in terms of, you know, the presentation.
Ben: i also saw there's one called like thousand pound roommates they definitely they definitely spun off a bunch of those shows uh
Zach: Yeah, I watched like Thousand Pound Friends couple episodes and it was not interesting.
Zach: Thousand Pound Sisters is only interesting because that like family it's basically it's like.
Zach: A family of rednecks that's completely wanting to be exploited by reality TV.
Ben: it
Zach: So they're so willing and into it that I'm like, I don't really feel bad that they are doing this to themselves.
Ben: Well, they're also actually interesting people. Like what actually, which I think kind of helps like, cause like they actually seem like they can be fun and entertaining and like, they're like an actual, like, you know, fun family.
Zach: In a, in a rural Kentucky way. Sure.
Ben: Well, yeah, but sure. Like, but that's what I mean. Like even it's like the idea is like even in a small town in Kentucky, like, you know, there's, there's, there's, there's like personality behind the weight loss.
Ben: And then it was like other people saw that show and were like, oh, now is our time. Like the thousand pound friend one or a thousand pound roommate one, whatever. There's like five spinoffs.
Zach: Yeah, and I bet they all suck. Because I feel like the only connection with them is the fucking doctor, which nobody's watching for that guy who's only in one episode a season anyway.
Ben: Yeah.
Ben: Yeah, exactly.
Zach: Because it's not like they're friends of Amy and Tammy. They're just also patients of the same doctor because TLC is like, here's the doctor.
Ben: Also too, like, it's crazy that that whole family got bariatric surgery. um Which like goes kind of goes into the whole like our fucked up food and pharmaceutical like economy in our country. Yeah.
Zach: Yeah. Well, the pharmaceutical thing is crazy. Like it's still crazy to me that there's like advertisements and they're like, ask your doctor about fuck a troll.
Zach: And it's like, I'm not, I'm not a pharmacist. I'm not a chemist. Like why would I be asking my doctor about a specific drug?
Ben: Yeah, why did you invest $30 million dollars into this commercial?
Zach: Yeah, and like with really shitty acoustic guitar music.
Zach: And people like at a painting class in slow motion.
Ben: you have It's like any side, it's like side effects include, it's like,
Zach: Exploding bowels.
Zach: Organ tissue and urine.
Ben: Uncontrollable erections.
Ben: A sudden lust for... i was going to make an Epstein joke, but... Now that shit's getting too real.
Zach: Teeth turn into vampire fangs Speaking of Epstein jokes Ace's vice president resigned Mysteriously Yeah
Ben: Really? Uh-oh.
Zach: I'm going to not make an Epstein joke. Cause yeah, like you said, it's like, it's going to be in poor taste if it's not already.
Zach: Let's, let's give it some time. But I did find it curious that ACEs vice president suddenly and mysteriously resigned.
Ben: Wait, hold on. is this Is this something that I can Google?
Zach: um I don't think so because he's still on their web website listed as the vice president.
Ben: There's a position description. um Here's the thing, though. Do you really think ace is in the same, like...
Zach: No.
Ben: you know, atmosphere is that whole thing, but
Zach: Not even close.
Ben: maybe he sent an email, like kind of like a, a dot or a, a dot, a, uh, Elon email.
Ben: Do you see that one? Where he's like, can I come to your Island girls for the win?
Zach: ha ha ha comedy is legal.
Ben: and And then I think the response was like a typical, just like very vague, like, oh, sorry, you just missed the party. it was yesterday. you just missed it. like
Zach: Which God. ah
Zach: The whole thing is funny because like
Zach: it definitely is like one of those things where you're like, to all the people I know that are fairly staunchly on the right, this is the time I feel like poking them.
Ben: Yeah.
Zach: You know?
Zach: Especially some of them will say things or post things that are like, oh my god, these beddos. And you're like, I can't help myself. And I'm like,
Zach: Yeah, that one. You know what I mean?
Ben: Yep.
Zach: And it's just like no reaction.
Ben: That's the thing. that's It's beyond the point where of that shit even mattering to people. It's like, it's just also too, like it's kind of that flood the zone strategy. People have been hearing so much about Epstein that it's people are just desensitized now.
Ben: Like a literal video could come out of Trump doing something and like people would forget about it within a day.
Ben: Butt Benghazi.
Zach: No, it's just, it's it's so funny to me because like, what was it? Not too long ago, I think it was maybe around the time we started this podcast or since then when fucking Q was dropping info, breadcrumbs to lead to the cabal. Yeah.
Ben: Qbot Drops.
Zach: Yeah. Yeah, because I remember us doing Coaster Q bot.
Zach: So that's what I'm saying. And like, I remember laughing that shit off like, no, there's no way. Right? Like, because they couldn't like keep that shit secret.
Zach: And like, here we are. And the FBI released the files. And it's like, there it is. It's real.
Ben: Yeah, right.
Zach: And it's like, so is something going to happen or
Ben: No, that's what's fucked up about it. is like is It's like it it compromises so many people that everyone's just pretending it's like not a big deal.
Ben: it's It's almost like at this point they know that the entire population of like non-political elites...
Zach: Well,
Ben: could think something is is like insane and it it wouldn't matter. Like that's, what's so sad about it.
Zach: Well, in the really fucked up thing that nobody seems to be talking about is like people who like, let's just keep it vague here, but get their enjoyment that way.
Zach: Don't just stop because that guy stopped.
Ben: Oh, sure. Yeah.
Zach: So the shit's still fucking happening.
Ben: Yeah.
Ben: I saw some crazy things too, where they, where people are finding that there are PDFs. So you can go to the DOJ website and go into the file, into the database. And there are PDFs that if you change the URL to like MOV, it's actually a movie file.
Ben: Um, And it's like it's like footage, it's like the jail cell footage.
Zach: Yeah, I heard about that.
Ben: um And it's videos where there's like a whiteboard blocking the the camera.
Ben: It's pretty wild.
Zach: Yeah, like, at this point, it's just like,
Zach: Because I've searched in those files just to see. I'm not reading everything, right? I have no... But, like, what... You know, who's in here? Just, like, type in random shit, and it's like, oh okay, wow.
Zach: And to be completely fair to a lot of the people whose names are in there, a lot of them, like, for instance, right? Bob Iger is in there a couple times, right?
Zach: But the context is very important, right?
Ben: Oh, really?
Ben: Sure.
Zach: He ended up on there because there was some news roundup that got emailed to Jeffrey Epstein that happened to feature in a headline that said Bob Iger's name.
Ben: Yeah.
Ben: Yeah.
Zach: So he's in there a couple times. All of the context is that. So it's like, sure, he was named in there, but also that there is no implication of anything happening.
Zach: On the opposite side of that spectrum, there's somebody like the president who...
Zach: There was a sheet of tips that the FBI got of victims' testimonies.
Zach: that alleged some pretty wild things and horrifying things.
Ben: Oh God, yeah, there is. ah just i just looked up Bob Iger. Yeah.
Zach: Yeah. So it's like, he's in there, but the context says it's really not something he should be yeah like, you know what I mean? But like the case of other people, you know, you got to read what's there.
Ben: Interesting.
Ben: I also saw cases where there's like where the word D-O-N
Ben: or like the word don't was redacted.
Zach: Yeah.
Ben: As in they just looked up, they did like a search for D-O-N and then yeah.
Zach: Yeah. oh The most obvious. Fuck.
Zach: Oh, man. It's cooked. But yeah, I think, um you know, those of you who are acquainted or close to people that are staunchly on the right, gently try to use this as a, gently try to use this as a moment to get, to break, to have a breakthrough, right?
Zach: And don't be argumentative.
Zach: just ask the ask the right kind of questions.
Zach: Like if people say, oh, this guy's in the files, then you go well, the FBI said that Epstein wasn't running a trafficking ring, so what's it matter?
Ben: I just saw.
Zach: And if the...
Ben: Also, like, hold on. One thing that's crazy, too, is like, who's just using Gmail for gent for general notifications? Or like
Zach: Apparently a lot of people.
Ben: like, couldn't use WhatsApp? Or, you know, like,
Ben: Who the fuck is using Gmail just for like a chat, like in a chat thread?
Zach: Yeah. totally and like Just brazenly. Because you'd think some of this shit would have been encrypted or something. No. No.
Zach: It's on fucking Google servers.
Ben: Pizza lunch, they will take Uber.
Zach: All right. All right. Well, as much fun as this topic has been, i actually have something even more fun for us to discuss.
Zach: But I, I, I say that I'm being serious. Um,
Zach: Our buddy Coaster Justin sent us in some audio a while back that i we didn't play because we weren't recording.
Zach: We took some time away, Coaster Justin. I'm sorry. i had a I didn't. My wife had a baby, and that's a that tends to make things a little busy.
Ben: Oh, yeah, that's right. I saw this. i saw this. OK. So
Zach: So I got the audio ready. I haven't listened to it.
Ben: OK.
Zach: So I'm hearing this for the first time as well. So I don't know if we'll respond in real time or what. let's ah But let's let's roll it, yeah?
Ben: Sure.
Zach: All right.
Zach: Okay, I got a notepad.
Zach: All right, you go ahead first.
Ben: right.
Zach: All right. Well, Justin, thank you as always for sending in that very well thought out ah question and response.
Ben: also ah I also got a vivid flashback to no coaster con and probably awaits when King's Island was given a presentation and he's like, hold on. How did he say it? It's so vivid in my memory. Cause I remember we both saw it and we laughed. Um,
Ben: like It was like, I'm sorry, I think I speak for everyone, but what the heck kind of name is Flight Deck for a roller coaster? but
Zach: He was right.
Ben: on the On the, yep, 100% though. He was saying what everyone was thinking.
Ben: um
Zach: All right. So I made a notepad. Okay. I'm going to just say it right here. i don't know. i didn't know the the shops or ah restaurants names.
Ben: Yeah, I think the shops and names, you could probably just name, like, i don't know, New Orleans Gifts or Yankee Harbor, whatever, Provisions. you know like Those could be whatever.
Ben: Just theme the gift shops to the to the section.
Ben: But also, too, like it kind of is it kind of is exciting to think about the possibility of this because the DC theming is a little... It's little gaudy.
Ben: It kind of takes away from the potential theme of the park. But also, there's some rides I just cannot imagine them not being DC. Like...
Zach: Well, yeah, there's there's two specifically in my mind that are just damned if you do, damned if you don't, right? Top of that list is the Justice League.
Zach: It's a shooting dark ride with specific show elements. Like, if they took stuff out of it,
Zach: It wouldn't work anymore.
Ben: Well, yeah, you'd have to
Zach: They'd have to spend.
Zach: a ton of of money. Updating it.
Ben: I wonder, though, if that one... If maybe though there's a... like If that one has licensing per the ride. Like, I wonder if that's a special case or something, because...
Ben: That ride has, you know, it has like video it that was produced by a company, which I'm assuming would have had to have the licensing before they even built the attraction and sold it to Six Flags.
Ben: So,
Zach: If I'm not mistaken, that's a Sally?
Ben: yeah. So I wonder, I wonder how that works if like, but and even Sally probably makes the ride vehicles and stuff, but then I'm assuming there's some third party that they work with that does all of the,
Ben: you know, like all the video effects and produces the video and the game aspect to it. so i don't know. i wonder, I think, i mean, I have no idea, but I would assume that that license for that ride might be different than the roller coasters, but I don't know.
Zach: It may or may not be, but yeah, that one I think is just intrinsically linked in a way that like, it's hard to visualize like without like some budgetary constraints that,
Ben: Yeah. Yeah.
Zach: what could replace the theming of Justice League. Because, like, conceptually, it's hard to even picture, like, the Winnie the Pooh-style ride you're talking about, Justin.
Ben: Yeah, right.
Zach: ah You know what I mean?
Ben: Yeah.
Zach: Like, it's... I don't know. Uh, so I'm just gonna, i am gonna cop out on that one and just say, I got, I got nothing for justice league.
Ben: Yeah, same. That's the only one that doesn't work. I think the most interesting out of all of that is probably Superman and Batman. Those are the two hardest ones
Zach: Yeah, I'm going to run down his list real quick. So Metropolis Plaza, we can skip that one because that's linked to Justice League, which I'll be honest, I didn't even realize that that was a technically its own area. I mean, I guess it makes sense because it's not Southwest.
Zach: I guess.
Ben: Yeah, i didn't even know what the fuck that was.
Zach: That was part of Southwest when the amphitheater was there, but I guess... It just seems like weird if it's not a part of Southwest when like Southwest bathrooms are there.
Zach: And then like on one side is the transition to County fair and on the other is just like s smack into Southwest. But yeah, I don't know.
Zach: um Anyway, DC universe. um He said Orleans place. So I guess we can't use that or a Yankee Harbor.
Ben: that's fine though I i mean i agree with that though that that's the only thing that really makes sense like yeah yeah
Zach: Well, that's what I was thinking too, is like, bring it back to what it was, just make a Yankee Harbor, because it was always better as Yankee Harbor anyway.
Ben: yeah anything that originally had a theme that was changed to DC is an easy flip but mm-hmm
Zach: And if they could bring back the original Yankee Harbor music, Come on. That super 70s drunken sailor. Oh my God. Forget about it.
Zach: Okay. So Superman.
Zach: Well, if we want to be real classic fucking six flags, save money and use a name that you've already copyrighted, we could go with Tatsu.
Ben: Yeah, Tatsu works. It also doesn't feel like a big step down because they already have that name in their chain. Yeah.
Zach: But it could it could also, they've incorporated Cedar Fair's existing trademarks, right? So we could also go with something like Raptor
Zach: Talon.
Ben: Yeah, I think Talon, I think out of those two, I think Talon for Batman works, not Flight Deck. Flight Deck was a dumb one.
Zach: Yeah, Flight Deck sucks.
Ben: The only thing, though, is like how do you incorporate some of the original theming? like If you wanted to keep the whole you know like the tunnel and the station and all that stuff, like there maybe,
Ben: i don't know. Villain. i don't know. Call it villain or something. i don't know.
Ben: Weirdly, maybe Medusa.
Zach: Okay.
Ben: feel like since Medusa was a yellow floorless coaster, I guess a yellow invert with sort of that industrial theming could kind of work, I guess. I don't know.
Ben: But I do like, i think tatsu for I think Tatsu for Superman is like the best. Because Tatsu, yeah, i like I like that one the most.
Zach: Yeah, I like that too. um For Batman,
Zach: it's in Yankee Harbor, right?
Ben: Mm-hmm.
Zach: I'm going to be honest here. I think it's a very signature ride for Great America. The first inverted roller coaster in the world. The park it's at is Great America. And it drove me nuts that Great America never had a coaster called this.
Zach: I'm going Great American Scream Machine.
Ben: For Batman? True.
Zach: Yeah, I know it's an antiquated name, right? It sounds kind of old school, right? But why did Great America never have a Great American Scream Machine?
Zach: And if there was going to be one ever, what's like the most signature Great America rides of signature Great America rides? It's either Batman or Whizzer.
Ben: I mean, I would say Eagle.
Zach: Fair, but American Eagle already fits the idea of Great America.
Ben: Yeah.
Zach: And between Batman and Wizard, Batman's more more aligned with a scream machine.
Ben: Sure, yeah.
Zach: Plus, you could keep some of the theming.
Ben: like the cop car and stuff. I suppose it is pretty American.
Zach: Yeah. You can keep the theming. It would be fine. but Yeah. ah For Dark Knight...
Zach: um
Ben: we We joked about this. Mr. Six is DUI whatever. Like the It's him. It's like him getting a DUI driving the the bus.
Ben: Gets into a car accident.
Ben: Do you like Mr. I don't know. Mr. Six is crazy bus or crazy taxi or something like that.
Zach: Yeah, I like that. And they repaint the cars yellow.
Ben: hmm.
Zach: Put the Six Flags logo on the side. The shit's just blasting We Like to Party.
Ben: Yeah,
Zach: Which would be perfect for people on psychedelics.
Zach: um Yeah, no, I think that would be... i'm i'm feeling that one for sure. Okay, Aquaman. Aquaman. I mean, I always liked Yankee Clipper.
Ben: yeah Yankee Clipper is fine.
Zach: But you could also do, like, one of those weird fucking names and be, like, the Clanky Yipper. Okay, the DC Villains Swing.
Zach: ah I mean, yeah, I i was just literally about to say, there i had no problem with Whirlygig.
Ben: Just make it whirly gig.
Ben: I didn't even know they rethemed that actually.
Zach: Yeah, you see, everything in DC Universe needed to be DC-themed.
Ben: that makes sense. Yeah.
Zach: Which is also why V2 is now called Flash Vertical Velocity. And we have to rename it.
Ben: Yeah.
Zach: Um...
Zach: How about steel venom?
Ben: Steel Venom. Yeah, that one that one works for the Impulse. I mean, even V2, like the original name was fine. It didn't really make sense, but...
Zach: No.
Zach: Well, I mean, V2 made more sense than vertical velocity.
Ben: Yeah, true.
Zach: I also like the idea of giving it like a an off the wall name like like Mr. McGillicuddy's uppy downy spinny backwards forwards machine ABAB
Ben: Up, down, left, right.
Zach: um Joker
Ben: What are the Cedar Fair ones called? Yeah,
Zach: Tombali?
Ben: yeah I guess that's fine.
Zach: yeah
Ben: Do it as a... What was the wild mouse called? Raging Cajun. Just make it Raging Cajun.
Zach: so yeah, there you go But wait, it's in Yankee Harbor.
Ben: Oh yeah, that's right.
Zach: So it should fit that theme somehow. Could it be... um Okay, hear me out on this one.
Zach: Hear me out.
Zach: You repaint one of the rails red and the other one blue.
Zach: And it's called Patriot.
Ben: That works. Kind of looks like the Airy Force color scheme.
Zach: Yeah, and then you put white stars on the cars.
Ben: Yeah. so
Zach: I think we got a winner there.
Zach: And then the last one was Justice League, which we we discussed. that's a we're We're out on that one.
Ben: Yeah, that one's fun. Just play videos of like Tub Girl or something.
Zach: Escape the Tough Girl.
Zach: Oh, the smell is awful.
Zach: Well, uh, thanks you again. Thanks you. Thank you again, Justin, for sending that in. Sorry it took so long for us to get to it, but we appreciate your patience. Uh, thanks for the little prompt. We appreciate it. It's a fun to get some interactive content. Um,
Zach: If you want to send us something, MP3 is easiest. Send your favorite coaster sucks at gmail.com. We will play it on the show. We won't preview it.
Zach: So send it in.
Ben: Potentially edit. Just don't go all theme park predictions on it. but
Zach: Yeah, I would say like maybe like let's let's try to not exceed. Two minutes. really 90 seconds
Zach: unless it's really, really good stuff.
Ben: Well, at first I thought he was going to go through every single park with DC areas.
Zach: Me too. I was a little nervous.
Ben: so
Zach: That was the right amount, Justin. So good, good stuff.
Ben: It is honestly, that is probably the most interesting thought experiment we can have in the chain right now. Cause that's going to be a kind of a big deal. I mean, especially like rethemening something like Batman.
Ben: There's so like with all the Batmans in the chain, like Mr. Freeze, I don't even know.
Zach: It's going to be like RCT. Like they didn't have Batman the ride.
Ben: yeah
Zach: And I always kind of thought, why didn't they just call it the ride?
Ben: Yeah.
Zach: And that's what it's going to be at all the six flags parks.
Zach: Cause everyone will just call it Batman anyway.
Ben: Yeah, that's going to be a hard one for people to quit. No one's going to adopt the new name. And I also never realized, too, in the Cedar Point or the, fuck, in the Roller Coaster Tycoon,
Ben: Like I just opened the magic mountain one I just realized I don't have any of the, the DC stuff that makes sense. So,
Zach: No, and Superman's called The Escape.
Ben: Oh yeah. this is
Ben: This is a cool park though. It's too bad they didn't build the other stuff.
Zach: Yeah, no, I know.
Zach: But ah yeah, thank you, Justin. Appreciate that. And yeah, I'm not looking forward to the inevitable consolidation coming to the Six Flags parks.
Zach: But ah yo, dude, we are approaching the two hour mark.
Ben: Well, shit.
Zach: I feel like that's that's a respectable time to cut it off.
Ben: Yeah. Oh, for sure.
Zach: Because otherwise people who are listening to this while driving may be asleep.
Ben: I mean,
Ben: the only time it's good to go over two hours or like, our one if there's like true coaster episodes over two hours, that's fun. But
Zach: That or when we have like a guest who's really interesting. Like that first time we had ah Sean Flaherty on and we recorded for like six hours.
Ben: yeah.
Ben: Yeah, what was the... self-critique here. There's a topic that we've probably brought up the last like four episodes, and then we keep going back to it. Was it was it fast food? No.
Ben: I don't remember what it was, which probably... I don't want to think about it to start talking about it again, but...
Zach: Okay, leave us a comment. tell us to Go on our Discord. Tell us to shut the fuck up about whatever the topic was that we've been bringing up incessantly. That's obviously not roller coasters or theme parks.
Ben: Hey, at least this week it went into British TV, which is, I think, a new... That's a new... That's a new untapped area.
Zach: I mean, we've spent a lot of time on this podcast talking about substance use.
Ben: Yeah.
Zach: So I think the like the opposite of that is uncharted territory for us.
Ben: Insufferably sober. That's the new...
Zach: Yeah.
Ben: Although that's kind of...
Zach: Straight edge as fuck. ah
Ben: Straight edge, straight coaster club.
Zach: Straight edge coasters. Ha ha ha.
Zach: Except I'm out.
Ben: That was a fun one.
Zach: Back to.
Ben: I keep forgetting about, honestly, like the the straight coaster club was, didn't it didn't live in my brain for that very long. I kept forgetting about it. But that was a fun little bit.
Zach: Well, quick, register the ah URL, get it going.
Zach: Straight coasters.
Ben: Travel to the, yeah, ride Falcon's flight in safety.
Zach: and And the model will be straight coasters for straight men.
Ben: Although.
Zach: Put a little American flag underneath.
Ben: I'm getting. Yep.
Ben: Straight Dave.
Zach: We all know how well that ended.
Ben: I need to watch that movie again because that movie, that movie's I think crossed the 15 year mark.
Zach: I remember watching that in the theater and the scene where they're at the market research for the TV show.
Zach: it's just a dick spinning like 30 seconds straight. These two old ladies just walked out.
Zach: Good times. Sasha Baron Cohen was is is hilarious.
Ben: wonder that's on YouTube.
Zach: But.
Zach: That scene.
Zach: I feel like that that scene probably walked a lot of people.
Ben: Yeah.
Zach: It was a very... was a choice. So... ah Anyway. You got anything else, Ben?
Ben: No, all good. place for this week.
Zach: Watch Bruno.
Ben: Yeah, I need to I just found the clip.
Zach: As for me, I'll be reading the novelization.
Zach: um That was really stupid.
Zach: All right. Well, thank you all for listening. We appreciate it. We're trying to to do this more regularly and get back on a good schedule. So it's a lot of fun to do this and I hope you're having fun listening. Yeah,
Zach: yeah we'll talk to you all later.
Ben: I just saw the dick.
Zach: Until next time.
Zach: Until next time, your favorite coaster sucks.
Ben: Favorite coat socks. sucks
