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Episode 172 - Forth
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This week on the premier comedy roller coaster podcast Ben and Zach discuss Wrath of Rakshasa at Six Flags Great America as well as give some general life updates, plus much more!
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Zach's Comedic Fart Naming
00:00:43
Zach
I'm Zach and I named my farts after weed strains.
00:00:48
Ben
I'm bad and I'm too unprepared for to make a funny statement.
00:00:54
Zach
To be completely fair, I thought of that one when I was out smoking.
00:01:00
Ben
Nice.
00:01:02
Zach
Like, wouldn't it be funny if it was like, a that's cherry gelato.
00:01:02
Ben
so
00:01:09
Ben
Speaking of weed farts, um I remember when, ah i guess, Mutual Friend of ours, back in the homeland, um adjacent to cakes and Pop-Tarts, would tell me like the day after she smoked, her farts smelled like weed.
00:01:32
Zach
What?
00:01:33
Ben
Yeah. Yeah.
00:01:34
Zach
That's kind of fucked up.
00:01:38
Zach
I don't think that's how it should work.
00:01:43
Ben
Yeah, I've never...
00:01:43
Zach
Was she smoking through her ass?
00:01:46
Ben
I don't think so, but who knows?
Nostalgic Pop-Tart Video
00:01:49
Ben
um I still... i i i think I have the file for the Pop-Tart video, but I just don't know how to convert it out of like whatever cryptic phone video format that was used at the time.
00:02:04
Zach
It's probably better that way.
00:02:06
Ben
Yeah. Yeah.
00:02:08
Zach
It's a funny memory.
00:02:11
Ben
at like three frames a second
00:02:16
Zach
And in Gloria's... Yeah, in Gloria's 8 pixels...
00:02:16
Ben
size of a postage stamp.
00:02:24
Ben
I mean, I think it was at least 80 pixels, but a good.
00:02:28
Zach
And we're not talking megapixels here. We're talking pixels.
00:02:32
Ben
Yeah. Like pro is probably like 60 80 pixels. pixels
00:02:39
Ben
um
00:02:41
Zach
I just remember like the sound of the fart. I'll never forget. Cause it was a very like short, but like, not like that. It was like ah
00:02:53
Ben
I just think the the the formatting or the ah the setup is just funny because like you see you just see the Pop-Tart on the toilet seat cover and then like slowly zooms in and then like you see the shower that's just like full of like junk because like um their their shower was insane. They had the...
00:03:15
Ben
the like multiple colored, like five different loofahs. And they had like all the, the shower caddy things. And they had like crazy shower curtains with like multicolor fish on it and stuff.
00:03:30
Ben
Um, and then suddenly you just the ass hovering and then the phone zooms in a little bit and then you hear it as, as a work of art.
00:03:45
Zach
I remember the first time I saw it, I was like, what the fuck is this? And then ah ah hear, and I'm like, oh shit.
00:03:56
Zach
Oh God. And what was that? Like
00:04:02
Zach
Jesus Christ. Fucking 17 years
00:04:05
Zach
seventeen years ago
00:04:07
Ben
Yeah, 09. Yeah. Bought that. That's fun. That's a fun little memory.
Podcast's Coaster Focus Reminder
00:04:18
Zach
Welcome back to your favorite coaster sucks. We're clearly an all roller coaster podcast, but occasionally we might delve into pop tart farts.
00:04:28
Ben
What is, what do you think should we have her on the show?
00:04:35
Zach
I don't know.
00:04:37
Ben
i don't know how that would go. got, I, I, I think it would be kind of funny, but also it might not. i don't know.
00:04:46
Zach
It might be fun to have Applebee's on the show.
Potential of Old Friends as Guests
00:04:50
Ben
Yeah. So one thing I learned just from looking at other, like, uh, other YouTubers or other podcasters who have like their old friends on to like talk about memories is that sometimes it just doesn't like convert into an entertaining show.
00:05:08
Ben
Not saying it wouldn't be entertaining, but Applebee's would be kind of fun. Although that could be, you know what i mean? Like that could just be so it's so much time has passed. Like, don't know.
00:05:21
Ben
Well, we, we, maybe we'll have to do like a trial run.
00:05:24
Zach
I feel like if any of our old friends came on the show, my top choice would be screwy St.
00:05:24
Ben
I think
00:05:30
Zach
Louis.
00:05:32
Ben
yeah.
00:05:34
Zach
Um, cause we already had John on the show.
00:05:38
Zach
i would have John back too.
00:05:40
Ben
Yeah. I mean, I think we should do that too. um so so you since I, I just got to hang out with them recently.
00:05:47
Zach
Yeah.
00:05:48
Ben
Um,
00:05:49
Zach
As did I.
Great America Visits
00:05:51
Ben
nice.
00:05:53
Zach
but I'm pretty sure for the same reason.
00:05:54
Ben
it Yeah, it was, um yeah, I got to go to Great America. to both did, but not at the same time.
00:06:07
Ben
So we both have a trip report of Great America, our home park that we both do not live at anymore, that we visited on different days.
00:06:16
Zach
And we missed each other by like, a week or something.
00:06:19
Ben
Yeah.
00:06:20
Ben
Yeah. I had to wait for some work stuff to settle down so I could travel. And then, um, I also had to do my, my trip though was like family overload and not in like a bad way. Just, it was basically like I landed, ah got my like three hours of great America time on the way up from the airport. And then ah basically just like stayed with family the for like eight days
00:06:47
Ben
And I drove back down to Chicago to fly home and stopped at Great America again for like an hour and a half, two hours.
00:06:55
Zach
That's kind of similar to the trip that I had.
00:07:02
Zach
Bookended Great America ah with a bunch of being my with my family.
00:07:10
Zach
Which is fine, but definitely can... um
00:07:16
Zach
I got to be careful here because I know my mom listens to the show occasionally.
00:07:23
Zach
It's nice to see them. um
00:07:27
Zach
But like.
00:07:29
Zach
You know you reach a certain point where you're like. Yeah. Yeah.
00:07:36
Zach
You know what i mean.
00:07:36
Ben
I think that, yeah yeah, I mean, I think the problem with, that's just the problem when you live away from home is because
00:07:44
Ben
You're trying to utilize all the time you have. But even when we did live at home, it's not like we were with our parents the whole time. Like you were either at school or at work or you were hanging out with friends and you would like eat dinner together maybe. Or like on Sunday you would do like a ah lunch with extended family or something.
00:08:06
Ben
But then when you visit from out of town, suddenly you have this expectation to see them all the time because you're only there for a few days. but you've never spent that much time with them really before and like a long time.
00:08:19
Ben
So it's just it's just weird. It's the same thing.
00:08:20
Zach
Well, and like, let me ask you this, and I'll just be straight with you. You lived in Milwaukee for a while, and I know that's not super close to where your parents live, but it's like, you know, reasonable that they would come out and visit you.
00:08:37
Ben
Yeah. And vice versa.
00:08:38
Zach
So,
00:08:39
Ben
Like it it it was very common of like, okay, we're going to meet, you meet for a few hours and then once it gets boring, you, you leave, you know, it's like, but you could always go back like the next day or next weekend, you know?
00:08:54
Zach
Yeah, and, like, I had the same thing. I lived in Chicago. Not super close to my parents, but they're in the suburbs, so not really far. um But, like, we didn't see each other ah ton then.
00:09:11
Zach
It'd be, like, quarterly.
00:09:13
Ben
Yeah.
00:09:15
Zach
And since I've moved, it's been, like, pretty much the same frequency
00:09:21
Ben
Okay. Yeah. Yeah.
00:09:24
Zach
So it's like, you know, it I see you just the same now. You know what I mean?
00:09:31
Ben
yeah
00:09:34
Ben
I think I've been on like in every, like i' I'm kind of been on, I think it's been like twice a year because my parents will visit me once a year, typically around the holidays or like usually between October and December and then I'll go out there. But the last three years I've been out there for literally funerals.
00:09:56
Zach
Oh, gosh.
00:09:57
Ben
So this is the first non-funeral visit in a while.
00:10:02
Ben
But... The holidays, it's just like, and also I don't like traveling on the holidays anymore. um
00:10:10
Ben
and I think, i don't know.
00:10:12
Ben
I think I owe it to the Midwest to be back more frequently because I have the means to, but it's just like every time I go back, it's what's weird is like as time, more time passes and then you go home, it's like you realize how much the home is not changing.
00:10:27
Ben
like Even after like a year or two, you go back and you're like, oh this is exactly how it's been. Nothing's new.
00:10:35
Zach
Yeah, it's like, oh um oh, that fucking pizza place is still there. Oh, the other pizza place went out of business. Oh, okay.
00:10:47
Ben
Yeah, in my town, it was a big deal when they opened a second Taco Bell in the town across the...
00:10:52
Zach
I remember going to the one Taco Bell.
00:10:56
Ben
Which, oh, did did we go there?
00:10:59
Zach
With you, me, and it and um St. Louis.
00:11:03
Ben
Oh, right. Okay. yeah that was, at the time, that was like the one Taco Bell.
00:11:12
Ben
have a lot of, it's funny how many memories Taco Bell has, because that one has a lot. I wish there was a way, and they knocked down the building and like rebuilt it in the same spot.
00:11:24
Zach
Oh, so it's like different now. Well,
00:11:27
Ben
Yeah, they did that a couple years ago, apparently.
00:11:31
Zach
it's a good thing all those memories were gone due to being stoned anyway.
00:11:36
Ben
Yeah. There was one... like there was one time that... This probably happened... maybe in
Taco Bell Mix-Up Story
00:11:46
Ben
like 2009, 2010. And was with I was with some friends and like we smoked, I had to drive. So we drove my geo, the old geo prism, which is another vehicle that has a lot of memories tied to it, which is still running.
00:12:03
Ben
actually, and met the guy recently who I sold the car to you for like 500 bucks. ah
00:12:10
Zach
It's still running?
00:12:12
Ben
Yeah, it's up to like 230,000 miles.
00:12:17
Ben
um Apparently no issues with it, so...
00:12:21
Zach
That Geo Metro is still running in 2025.
00:12:26
Ben
Yeah. To be fair, it was a Prism, not the Metro. the metro was The Metro was a shitty car. The Prism was basically like a... ah What's the fuck?
00:12:38
Ben
Not the Honda... Honda Civic, maybe? What's, what the fuck? I forgot what their little four-door is. Anyway, but yeah, basically, they're basically all the same cars.
00:12:52
Ben
But like, and so I'm at Taco Bell and I'm like rattling off orders and the guy at the, taking the order is probably just as high as I was. And so like, this was back when they had like the red screen with the pixels on it where it showed you like what you were ordering.
00:13:07
Ben
oh And so i was ordering for four different people and they're like, they're like, does everything look right on the screen?
00:13:12
Zach
Uh-oh.
00:13:15
Ben
And I look at it and I can't read anything. And I'm just like, uh, yeah, looks good. And then suddenly like we pull up and they're like, okay, the total is like 3650. And, um,
00:13:27
Ben
and um I was like, fuck, like, how is it how is it this expensive? Like, it should only be like 20 bucks. And I'm like, I don't know. Like, hey, I need cash. So everyone's just like handing me like singles and fives to try to get the amount. was like, how is it this much?
00:13:43
Ben
And then they hand us like two big bags. And we're like, oh this is not, like, this is way too much food. And then it was like, everything was wrong. It was just like, it was like a Mexican pizza instead of a quesadilla. It was like,
00:13:57
Ben
2 XXL burritos, which were like a new thing at the time.
00:14:02
Ben
yeah and everyone got the wrong food.
00:14:05
Zach
And everybody ate it anyway.
00:14:07
Ben
Yeah, it's all the same.
00:14:10
Zach
It all came out of a cock gun.
00:14:14
Ben
I remember the fucking the coin game where you drop the coins and you get like free, free, whatever.
00:14:21
Zach
Yeah, you'd have to like rotate that thing around and get it all the way to the bottom step.
00:14:22
Ben
Mm hmm.
00:14:28
Ben
Yeah. the The trick was, though, is that if you could position it to where you could drop it and it you can skip all of the steps and go right to basically the second last one.
00:14:40
Ben
And then you would hit it, hit the little spinning dial and then knock it back by like jiggling.
00:14:50
Zach
Oh, okay.
00:14:51
Ben
The easiest, the easiest though was the nickel for the cinnamon twist because the nickel was nice and flat. So it wouldn't bounce off the little steps.
00:15:02
Zach
What about a quarter? I guess a quarter is not really flat.
00:15:07
Ben
Yeah, the problem with the quarter is that it's heavier and it's obviously like if you try it four times, you just lose a dollar.
00:15:14
Ben
i think the also the what did I don't even remember. I think it was like a college charity, right? I don't remember what the what the charity was for.
00:15:25
Zach
Um, that I don't know, but I know, i remember that a quarter got you a bean burrito.
00:15:33
Ben
yeah Yeah, the nickel, I think a dime was nachos and then the nickel was the cinnamon twist.
00:15:46
Ben
If I'm not mistaken.
00:15:49
Zach
Dude, I wonder when those went away.
00:15:53
Ben
I mean, probably like easily 10 years ago when people stopped carrying coins.
00:16:00
Ben
It'd be kind of funny though, if they just turned this like a video slot machine, like with like a touch thing for like your debit card.
00:16:08
Zach
Right? Accepts Apple Pay.
00:16:12
Ben
yeah
00:16:13
Zach
It's like one spin, $1, can win, a number seven combo.
00:16:20
Ben
Honestly, that's not a bad idea.
00:16:24
Ben
Just a dollar a shot. Plus, like with inflation, i mean that ah a quarter is basically a dollar now.
00:16:32
Ben
there is i mean Up until recently, there was shit on their menu that was under a dollar. Remember all the 89 cent stuff? That was an era through at least 2012, 2013.
00:16:45
Ben
twenty thirteen
00:16:48
Ben
the 89 cent half pound cheesy beefy melt.
00:16:53
Zach
Yeah, i still don't know what the hell's in that.
00:16:57
Ben
I mean, to be fair, that one had a lot of cheese in it. or That one was like mainly, not cheese, it was mainly rice. It was like half rice,
00:17:07
Ben
maybe a quarter of beans and then a quarter of beef And then just like cheese. The way that they rolled it though was that like the cheese was all kind of in like the top of the of the cylinder, but it was end to end.
00:17:22
Ben
So you had the cheese on every bite, but it didn't really like melt throughout the whole thing.
00:17:28
Zach
Well, at least you got the good cheese distribution, though. That's important.
00:17:33
Ben
Yeah. But that shit in the, what Eric and I did are like, huge Edmonton road trip that shit. Like it was basically lunch was $2 menu McChickens and a medium fry for like $1 59.
00:17:53
Ben
That was under five bucks. And then talking about, I'd get like two cheesy beefy melts. And then, uh, I don't know, like maybe a quesadilla or something or the $2 meal deal.
00:18:08
Ben
also under five bucks. So you're eating for 10 bucks a day. a long gone era.
00:18:12
Zach
God.
00:18:18
Zach
Yeah, I don't even know how you would do like
00:18:23
Zach
a cheap ass fucking giant road trip anymore.
Little Caesars Nostalgia
00:18:27
Ben
i mean, I guess you could do, Yeah, because all the... Yeah, I mean...
00:18:32
Zach
Make a shitload of sandwiches, get a cooler.
00:18:37
Ben
i don't know, 7-Eleven food, like the 99-cent pizza or whatever, pizza slice or whatever. um Little Caesars is still $6. under six bucks i think it's up to like now.
00:18:50
Zach
Oh, yeah. I was also thinking, like, local grocery store, you get, like, frozen meals and microwave them at the hotel.
00:18:59
Ben
yeah
00:19:03
Ben
The day I do you remember though, like those occasionally like the little Caesars like binges where we'd have like five people and we get like five pizzas.
00:19:14
Zach
That sounds pretty horrible.
00:19:17
Ben
With the crazy bread, the crazy bread was the for 99 cents.
00:19:22
Zach
Dude, I remember...
00:19:24
Zach
Well, one, there was a but Little Caesars. It's still there, I think, in Waukegan, so not too far from Great America. That has a fucking drive-thru for Hot and Reddy's.
00:19:38
Ben
Oh, that's a good idea. That's probably like, that should be standard.
00:19:43
Ben
If they're actually hot and ready.
00:19:43
Zach
ah That would be cool.
00:19:45
Ben
Yeah. I'm curious what the quality of a hot and ready is nowadays though, because it's been a long time. I think probably since 2012 was the last time I bought a hot and ready.
00:19:57
Zach
Gotta look up if Reviewbrah's been there any time recently.
00:19:57
Ben
Oh yeah.
00:20:02
Ben
Yeah.
00:20:05
Ben
There there there is a little Caesars.
00:20:05
Zach
all
00:20:07
Ben
I pass it literally every day for the last 10 years that I've ever been in there.
00:20:13
Zach
I had one since I've moved and was just as fine as I remember it being previously.
00:20:23
Ben
Yeah.
00:20:24
Zach
You're like, yep, that's a Little Caesars pizza.
00:20:27
Zach
I remember um in high school, the first year I had like off-campus lunch.
00:20:36
Zach
One time, ah bunch of my friends and I crammed into somebody's car and went to the Little Caesars and got a hot and ready. We're all eating slices and like driving back to school.
00:20:48
Zach
Some dude like leaned out the window and full-on whipped one at a sign.
00:20:56
Ben
ah A slice of pizza.
00:20:57
Zach
yeah
00:21:03
Ben
Nice. Was it, did it like explode or did the cheese get stuck or anything?
00:21:09
Zach
i We drove by, so like I think he like just was trying to hit it. I couldn't see for sure because he was in like the passenger's seat, and I was like behind the driver's seat.
00:21:23
Ben
Yeah.
00:21:26
Zach
So I didn't catch if he made it or not, but it was still fucking hilarious either way. Cause like, he like leaned out of the window with the slice and fucking hucked it.
00:21:37
Zach
And we're going like 30 miles hour, 35. Ah, dude, the suburbs.
00:21:44
Ben
Nice.
00:21:46
Zach
ah dude the suburbs
00:21:49
Ben
here I remember a similar thing, but with like a full Taco Bell soda cup, like chucking it at, i think it was, uh, I don't remember what the sign was, but, or what it was, but I remember somebody like throwing a full soda cup, like out the window and then it just explodes.
00:22:11
Ben
ah so Also, someone one did that to me 94. on ninety four we were driving back from Great America, one of our mutual friends, and he like had a full soda cup and he like chucked that out the window like super high and it arced and then it just landed on my hood and it just popped and soda went everywhere.
00:22:35
Zach
um That seems pretty on brand for that person.
00:22:40
Ben
Yeah. Yeah.
00:22:43
Ben
It was right before the the toll thing too. would have been funny if the camera would have caught it.
00:22:51
Zach
You're like, I got to get a picture of that ticket.
00:22:56
Ben
Oh, speaking of which, fuck, I never paid my tolls for my trip.
00:23:03
Ben
Rental car toll thing is such a scam because you either pay like $15 a day to use the I-Pass that's in the car or... I don't think it switches by day of use. Let's say you rent your car for 10 days but you only need to use the I-Pass for one day. I think they charge you like the $15 per day to use Or...
00:23:28
Zach
Yeah.
00:23:28
Ben
um or You don't use their pass, but then they charge you like a $9.99 admin fee per toll that they bill. So it's like if you go through five different tolls and each one was a dollar, it's a dollar plus $9.99 admin fee for everyone, which adds up.
00:23:52
Zach
Yeah, you're better off getting the I pass.
00:23:55
Ben
Apparently the old ones don't work. I like, cause I Googled it. I was, you know, like I have an old I pass, whatever. And like, apparently they don't accept those anymore.
00:24:05
Zach
think you could trade it in for a new one, though.
00:24:08
Ben
Yeah.
00:24:10
Zach
You got to go to, like, fucking a jewel next time you're...
00:24:15
Ben
Yeah.
00:24:17
Ben
Well, so we don't, so in Colorado, our tolls are, um, we have like two main tolls that are HOV lanes, but I don't think the I-pass works for it. It's like, pure it's like purely license plate tolling, but i think it is the same company that does easy pass, which I think also works with high pass.
00:24:40
Ben
Right. I've isn't that like they're connected or something.
00:24:43
Zach
I believe so.
00:24:44
Ben
so
00:24:47
Ben
I don't know, Tolles are a scam.
00:24:53
Zach
But so is car dependency.
00:24:57
Ben
True.
00:24:59
Ben
That is true.
00:25:01
Ben
Well, speaking of Illinois, i have to say, Great America, when i when i went, I had like probably the best visit to great America I've had it since.
00:25:17
Ben
um
00:25:19
Ben
Opening day 2009.
00:25:22
Ben
If you remember that one.
00:25:25
Zach
That was a good time.
00:25:28
Ben
Yeah. And I guess like the operations wise wasn't that wasn't good back in 09, but like there were no lines. Um,
00:25:34
Zach
Yep, because it was early
00:25:38
Ben
Yeah, April 3rd. That was insane the time. But i I have to say, like, um I don't know. this is happened This happens every time I've been to Great America since moving away.
00:25:54
Ben
i have, like, these expectations in my head of, like, just, that annoyance of like, These, like, little annoyances, like, oh, this would be annoying. Like, ugh. Got to get there early because of the fucking parking. Oh my God, the security line. um I'm sure the pass isn't even going to work. like All these like little things. And then ah get there and it's completely seamless.
00:26:13
Ben
Parking was fine. the security line was super easy. Got into the park, no problems. oh But everything was so clean.
00:26:24
Ben
The entrance itself, like the design of the entrance is kind of like... It's okay. Like the, what, it what does it say? Like, see you again next time or something or, uh, yeah, like it looks a little tacky, but it at least looks complete.
00:26:35
Zach
I don't really like it.
00:26:45
Ben
I guess like, and I like, I miss the old, the old entrance obviously, but I mean, it's, it's, it's fine. Like it's, it's not great, but like, it's not cheap. Um,
00:26:57
Zach
I don't like that they put up that fence that whole way around.
00:27:02
Ben
That's actually kind of crazy too because we were talking like what happens if there's like a mass evacuation situation? um That gate is just a choke point.
00:27:14
Zach
Yeah.
00:27:15
Ben
um i don't and I don't think there's really any way. It looks like it's permanent too. you like It looks like there's not really a good way to like open So...
00:27:22
Zach
No.
00:27:23
Ben
so
00:27:23
Zach
Like, yeah, they could have put like additional gates with like the locking mechanisms in the ground.
00:27:31
Ben
Yeah. I mean, I guess even then if they were temporary, it wouldn't have helped, but I mean, I don't know. i But I, yeah, that's kind of little weird. Yeah.
00:27:42
Zach
I don't like those gates at all because, like, I liked the freedom of being able to approach
00:27:52
Zach
the security line from anywhere.
00:27:56
Ben
Yeah.
00:27:56
Zach
Instead, you have to walk to the center of the parking lot from wherever you are.
00:28:03
Ben
Yeah.
00:28:04
Zach
Um, and then also they fenced, like, they put that one bathroom behind security now.
00:28:13
Ben
Oh, did they I didn't even notice that.
00:28:15
Zach
Yeah, dude, that bathroom that's outside by the old dog kennel. Yeah, that shit's, that's all behind that gate now. So there's not even a bathroom before security.
00:28:29
Ben
Okay, interesting.
00:28:31
Zach
Which, like, their security is pretty seamless, like you said. But still...
00:28:37
Zach
Like, dude. No bathroom?
00:28:40
Ben
Yeah, I mean, i guess if the bathroom is most mainly used, um
00:28:48
Ben
yeah, I don't know.
00:28:50
Zach
Plus, I think they they probably got rid of the bike parking there, too. Not that it's ever used that often, but...
00:28:50
Ben
Talk about
00:28:57
Ben
Yeah.
Great America Ride Discussions
00:28:59
Ben
So I'm trying to remember what it looked like. Are there still those tree planters there? Like those big trees that were, okay.
00:29:04
Zach
Yeah.
00:29:07
Ben
But those are, but those are before security.
00:29:10
Zach
No, those are all after security now.
00:29:13
Ben
oh right. Okay.
00:29:15
Zach
Like, all of that's past security. That's what I don't like. It's like, that used to be, like, a proper entry plaza, but now it's all gated off.
00:29:20
Ben
Okay.
00:29:25
Ben
Yeah.
00:29:27
Zach
Because it's, like...
00:29:30
Zach
It's kind of nice-ish to have a smaller actual entry gate to get through, like an admission gate. But, like, it kind of ruins...
00:29:42
Zach
the entry plaza, like the pre-admission entry plaza vibe.
00:29:49
Ben
yeah i mean i guess you could argue if you're talking about like before the park opens you're most likely going to go through security first and then you'd like hang out in the front before the gates open but yeah it's uh
00:30:06
Zach
Yeah, but they had fixed that a while ago.
00:30:10
Ben
Well, because wasn't it how the old design was, they had all those like switchbacks basically in the plaza for security before the, before the ticketing.
00:30:19
Zach
From the old ticket booths.
00:30:21
Ben
Yeah.
00:30:21
Zach
Remember the old ticket booths?
00:30:23
Ben
Yeah.
00:30:24
Zach
Yeah, that all was like... They had the switchbacks from there up through the security point.
00:30:32
Zach
And then like that little space between the old ticket booths and that admission gate.
00:30:41
Zach
They pushed the admission gate towards the parking lot and got rid of the old ticket booths. Which makes sense structurally, like, right? There's no need for those ticket booth buildings.
00:30:53
Zach
But that had solved that problem of, like, um I don't remember when they changed it, but remember, I know in, like, 05, 06, 07,
00:31:09
Zach
There was like, it was like security and, or it was admission. They would scan your ticket and then immediately it would be like the metal detector, like the old style one.
00:31:23
Zach
And so admission would just take fucking forever.
00:31:27
Ben
yeah lots of memories of that but they also had like whatever 12 16 lanes yeah sixteen lanes
00:31:35
Zach
Yeah, that's true. But still, if they're only going like, you know, 45 seconds per person.
00:31:45
Ben
yeah
00:31:48
Zach
It just made a choke point at the turnstiles. And so they switched that and that solved that problem. And I thought that that was like, it was perfect as it was, right? At least in my mind.
00:31:59
Ben
yeah
00:32:01
Zach
Although, I think there's also a chance I'm being super nitpicky.
00:32:08
Ben
I mean, it's i I think it's minor compared to the advantages of the new design, at least like what I saw, but I guess aesthetically the new thing, I don't love anything.
00:32:24
Ben
But it's all I guess like it's six flags. As long as it's not cheap, that's really like the main thing. like I'm going to look up a photo of it now because I forgot what it looks like.
00:32:38
Zach
But I also gotta say, when you walk in to the park itself,
00:32:46
Zach
and I'm not, I really don't like what they did to the left side of Carousel Plaza.
00:32:53
Ben
Oh yeah. Cause they kind of opened that up. Right. Where it's, you can now.
00:32:57
Zach
Yeah, they got rid of like, basically a bunch of trees and green space.
00:33:03
Ben
Yeah.
00:33:04
Ben
Yeah. i I, noticed that too, when I walked through, like I was leaving the park and then I'm like walking and like, wait a minute. Like this isn't, this is different. There used to be something here.
00:33:13
Zach
Yeah, they changed that. They changed that last season.
00:33:17
Ben
Okay.
00:33:18
Ben
I do think it opens things up though. I mean, i don't love it, but I don't think I hate it.
00:33:26
Ben
I'm trying to look up a picture.
00:33:29
Zach
Yeah, but like, here's the thing, right?
00:33:31
Zach
and don't just disagree that it opens things up. But like, why do they need to be open?
00:33:38
Zach
It's not like the park's, like, fucking so consistently crowded that they need extra, like, elbow room for people to walk around, you know?
00:33:38
Ben
Yeah.
00:33:49
Ben
is it Do they still do that parade down New Orleans' place?
00:33:55
Zach
Dude.
00:33:57
Ben
Or no?
00:33:58
Zach
I was with our, um, ah Great America buddy. And, uh, and our buddy John, the day I was there, well, the first day i was there, um, and our Great America buddy goes, so yeah, there's a parade.
00:34:18
Zach
And I'm like, oh, I gotta see this. And he's like, well, it's not much of a parade. It's really like a float being pulled by a tractor.
00:34:32
Ben
Nice.
00:34:33
Zach
And then it was like, so I'm like, okay, I got watch this. So we sit in um Orleans Place, like across from like Rouladage.
00:34:47
Zach
And it comes out. And it's like a truck. And it's like a bunch of people, performers on this flatbed.
00:34:59
Zach
and And they're singing Walking on Sunshine.
00:35:03
Ben
Nice.
00:35:04
Zach
And that was it.
00:35:06
Zach
No other floats.
00:35:06
Ben
so ah So just literally a single float.
00:35:12
Zach
Yeah, I think there might have been some dancers, but it was definitely, um
00:35:15
Ben
Okay.
00:35:19
Zach
it was more of like a a cavalcade than a parade.
00:35:25
Zach
To put it in, to put it in Disney terms.
00:35:25
Ben
I mean, at that point, at that point,
00:35:28
Ben
and I mean, at that point, just like, might as well just call it like a street show.
00:35:36
Zach
Well, I mean, i don't understand why they wouldn't have just gotten Bugs Bunny. That's one thing. I got to compliment them. Every time I walk through Hometown Square over the past, like, two seasons, I've seen um characters taking pictures in Hometown Square.
00:35:59
Ben
Yeah, forget I think I saw that too. um In general, I actually thought Hometown Square had some energy again. And I don't like i couldn't tell you like what differences there were, but I i remember like it wasn't as sad is what I remember. like wasn't it um How long ago was that where that Kazebo was like cut?
00:36:22
Ben
Remember that they just like cut the fucking Yeah.
00:36:24
Zach
That was like 2012 or was when they had Ignite.
00:36:29
Ben
Oh, okay. that was a while ago.
00:36:32
Zach
Yeah, that was 2013. yeah that was twenty thirteen
00:36:37
Ben
Oh shit. Okay. That was a long time ago then, but pretty, I always thought since then, like the, that hometown square really didn't have any purpose. Um, But I felt it was doing a lot better this time around.
00:36:51
Ben
Also, like the the approach of Ratharak Shasta I thought was pretty cool. like Just how when you're in Hometown Square and you can see the drop. Because I was a little concerned about there not being a midway next to the front first drop.
00:37:06
Ben
Like on other dive coasters. But um I think there's enough. There's enough midway interaction. I think they did a pretty good job. With that.
00:37:19
Zach
Yeah. um I agree. So I ended up going for the season pass preview.
00:37:30
Zach
All right. Legacy membership.
00:37:35
Zach
So like the line stretched all the way back to fucking Aunt Martha's.
00:37:40
Zach
Or whatever the hell it's called now.
00:37:42
Ben
hmm.
00:37:43
Zach
And so we're waiting there. And then it starts raining and it's like, oh, fuck.
00:37:50
Zach
And meanwhile, it's like not surprising. It's like every fucking coaster person.
00:38:01
Zach
Because
00:38:03
Ben
For the... Nice. yeah
00:38:05
Zach
people are talking about.
00:38:07
Zach
Oh, Magic Mountain. and Oh, Kings Island. and I'm like, OK.
00:38:13
Zach
So, then finally gets moving.
00:38:17
Zach
It was, I got i got a lanyard.
00:38:20
Zach
They gave everybody a lanyard for the ride preview.
00:38:20
Ben
for the
00:38:22
Ben
nice
00:38:25
Zach
And it was it was cycling well. I mean, it was only about 15, 10, 15 minute wait.
00:38:36
Zach
Without the switchbacks.
00:38:38
Ben
Mm-hmm.
00:38:41
Zach
Um,
00:38:42
Zach
yeah, dude. So I got row two seat seven all the way on the right hand side in the direction of travel
00:38:55
Zach
for my first ride.
00:38:57
Zach
Yeah, it was um definitely like a lot of side to side movement after the drop.
00:39:04
Ben
Yeah. And you can see that from the ground too. I don't know if it's technically shuffle, but it's there. It's yeah. It's a, I wouldn't say it's glass smooth.
00:39:16
Zach
No, it's it's kind of aggressive side to side. Like, I got a little bit of a headache after that first ride. I do have to say, in that right seat, the roll into the turn, that shit's fucking awesome.
00:39:36
Zach
But then I rode again, and i got row three, seat seven, and it was, like, even worse. Like, that was the, like, aggressive wanton dude.
00:39:53
Ben
That's too bad.
00:39:55
Zach
Like, I definitely had a bit of a headache, and I was like, two is enough. I'm going to go ride the Whizzer now.
00:40:02
Ben
How long, i mean, how long was the ride open for preview?
00:40:07
Zach
As far as I know, the whole night,
00:40:09
Ben
ah that's cool.
00:40:10
Zach
um I did my two rides and then did Whizzer, and then we bounced.
00:40:16
Zach
Because it was also like, um that stretch of county fair wasn't open. There was still a construction wall on the other side, like near X-Flight.
00:40:29
Ben
Okay.
00:40:30
Zach
And I think Demon has since reopened.
00:40:34
Ben
Oh, that's cool. Yeah, it was Demonist will close when I was there two weeks ago. i was then It looks like they're doing a lot of work to it. I'm kind of surprised. like I'm glad it's happening. Because...
00:40:53
Ben
over Overall, I would say it looks like they're putting a lot of energy and money back into a lot of neglected things, which is good.
00:41:03
Ben
but um
00:41:05
Ben
i had so I had the opposite problem with Rathorakshasa. in I got three rides on it, but I only got fucking center seats. so Basically, rode row one.
00:41:20
Ben
right, just one right of center, row two, um, left of center, one left of center, and then row three dead center.
00:41:33
Ben
The dead center was like the lamest shit I've ever been on because there's no other rides you can ride where you're like in the dead, dead center of the heart line and there's zero forces.
00:41:45
Ben
It's like literally zero forces in the roles, um, which makes sense. But, I kind of was like, with such...
00:41:52
Zach
Okay, but how' like the pullover on the drop is pretty great.
00:41:58
Ben
yeah the drop is... ah Drop's obviously good. yeah Yeah, like I like the drop. um It was mainly though just like... i was just kind of thinking like in this and in this situation of not allowing seat assignments...
00:42:14
Ben
do they need to implement something in the station that allows you to either wait like in the dead center or on the right or left? Because I think that there's some people who would want to only ride in the center. And then there's people who would only want to ride on the outsides.
00:42:32
Ben
That was just kind of like, was just like thinking through that because like the dead center is a totally different ride than any of the outside seats.
00:42:41
Zach
Um, no, because after this season, there won't be, like, demand like that for the ride.
00:42:49
Ben
Yeah, I mean, I suppose.
00:42:51
Ben
But yeah, I don't it don't think there's really a good way to do it. i don't know. Either way, dead center, though, doesn't have a rattle or it's not really rough. It's actually pretty smooth if you so ride in the dead center.
00:43:06
Ben
So that is the one like upside. i just kind of hate the setup. Like, I don't get why you need an odd number of row, like odd number of seats. It's just it's kind of weird.
00:43:18
Ben
Yeah,
00:43:19
Zach
Yeah, i like... I don't get the whole appeal of, like, why there's, like... Basically anywhere from, what, 6 or 5 to 8?
00:43:33
Ben
I don't know.
00:43:35
Zach
Like, 6 and 8 seems fine. Those are good two good sizes, right? Like, why bother with 5 and or 7? I think there's a 5, right?
00:43:47
Ben
um I don't wait. Is there five?
00:43:52
Zach
Maybe not.
00:43:52
Ben
ah thought it was. Yeah.
00:43:54
Zach
Maybe it's six. But, like, if it's six, seven, eight, why even fucking bother with seven?
00:44:00
Ben
Yeah. I don't know.
00:44:03
Ben
I don't get it. Also, i was supposed to have. um i was the last. Like I was the last person in the air game. I was supposed to get the outside seat.
00:44:16
Ben
Um, but then the two kids that were in the, in the queue with me, they like, they sniped it. So like they were in front of me, but they like sat down on the outside. So I had to go to the middle. I wasn't going to like make a stink about it.
00:44:32
Ben
Um,
00:44:33
Zach
You should have. You should have been like, you know who I am.
00:44:37
Ben
um, I was, this um I was bummed out though. And I saw it happen actually a couple times. Like if I think kids have, I think, i think the kids kind of figured it out. How do you can like snipe the outside seats?
00:44:48
Ben
Um, and then i felt bad even asking, but there was another, said I, the last time I went to go ride, I was in the front row and I was supposed to be, um like third, whatever one, one right of center.
00:45:04
Ben
And there were two kids behind me and I just asked, i was like, Hey, do you guys like want the outside? And they're like, yeah. And I'm like, Oh, okay. That's cool. Like just wondering.
00:45:14
Ben
So I did not get, i did not get my outside seat. also didn't try very hard, but I figured it's not worth it. Um, but anyway, I walked away with thinking pretty highly of the ride, not as like a roller coaster, but just as like a great America edition.
00:45:31
Ben
I think, Like great America did a really good job with it. I mean, the landscaping looks good. i think the way that they squeeze it into the spot was good. They didn't really have to like fuck anything up to get it to fit.
00:45:44
Ben
um I think, so I think great America did a really good job. All of my complaints are mainly about being in. I don't like the odd number of seats.
00:45:56
Ben
I don't i think it's great that you have such a rattly rough ride. in 2025. I also,
00:46:06
Zach
Yeah, I just to tack on to that real quick. I literally rode this shit on day zero to the public. Fucking what the hell?
00:46:15
Ben
yeah. Yeah.
00:46:18
Ben
I I'm, I'm guessing it's because of like whatever their people are saying, like the cheaper steel manufacturing or like the cheaper wheel assembly components or something.
00:46:30
Ben
It sucks because like if that were... Also, like I was on YouTube and I was looking up Sheikra media day footage and that shit was like glass smooth because no one's heads are moving at all. like Everyone's head is like stationary in the restraint.
00:46:49
Ben
and Then you compare it to Ratha-Rakshas and everyone's head is bobbing side to side.
00:46:54
Ben
so The coaster that opened 20 years ago They somehow glass smooth and they one to go through the modern one is the rough one. I don't get it.
00:47:04
Zach
Well, our great America buddy pointed out that thankfully um
00:47:13
Zach
it has the vests, not the old hard restraints, because that would be fucking painful.
00:47:21
Ben
Do you think that's why they switched to vests?
00:47:24
Zach
No, but I think it's benefited them.
00:47:29
Zach
Because they switched to Vest like 10 years ago.
00:47:32
Ben
Well, they switched it on Banshee.
00:47:35
Zach
Yeah.
00:47:36
Ben
but bansshee was like But Banshee was the first like
00:47:40
Ben
in the like enthusiast bubble, the first like so-called rough B&M. Because everyone always talked about the Banshee shuffle when it first opened. So I wonder if there is like some weird... I mean, I don't know. I doubt B&M was like, we're going put vests on so there's no headbanging, but...
00:47:58
Ben
Banshee would be one of the rides where you would get a little bit of headbanging on some of the port on some of the like rattly parts.
00:48:06
Zach
I don't like remember much of a rattle on there. I just remember it being fucking boring.
00:48:12
Ben
Yeah, Banshee is like, it's it's hit or miss because it runs, it seems to run super different just depending on like the day and the train and stuff.
00:48:23
Zach
To be fair, I've only ridden it like in the late fall.
00:48:23
Ben
Yeah,
00:48:29
Ben
yeah when it's colder. Yeah, that could be some ah could have something to with it.
00:48:32
Zach
Yeah, I mean, the drop is cool, but, like...
00:48:36
Zach
I don't know. I'm not trying to shit on Banshee.
00:48:40
Ben
i mean, Banshee's always been pretty polarizing. I've had like bad rides on it I've also had great rides on it. with not much in the middle.
00:48:52
Zach
Fucking...
00:48:54
Zach
Um...
00:48:56
Zach
I was thinking about inverts. Well, for one thing, i was like right basically at Great America this past weekend.
00:49:06
Zach
In fact, I found out that I didn't realize that the park is open sometimes during events.
00:49:14
Ben
Oh, yeah. Yeah, we were there during Ed Sharon.
00:49:18
Zach
which apparently set the attendance record for that stadium. So...
00:49:23
Ben
Wait, Ed Sharon?
00:49:24
Zach
Yeah.
00:49:26
Ben
Oh, my God. and
00:49:29
Ben
What's up with arenas? Like, arena shows in general, whether it's comedy or music? Like, I don't i don't know anybody who knows and don't know anybody who listens to Ed Sharon.
00:49:40
Ben
How is he selling an arena? How is he selling an arena?
00:49:45
Zach
I mean...
00:49:46
Zach
Like, what's it called?
00:49:49
Zach
Probably a lot of people there to hear Thinking Out Loud.
00:49:55
Ben
Yeah,
00:49:56
Zach
And um
00:50:00
Zach
Shape of You.
00:50:04
Zach
like He's had like some like incredibly big hits, so it kind of makes sense.
00:50:12
Ben
yeah that's true.
00:50:14
Zach
It's like it's like i went and saw Metallica at the stadium. and like they do like they They're on a current run where they're doing two-night shows.
00:50:25
Zach
um In fact, if this comes out Friday, they're in Denver.
00:50:32
Ben
On Friday.
00:50:33
Zach
um And Sunday.
00:50:35
Ben
Okay.
00:50:37
Zach
and if it like it And if it's like how it was here um in the Bay Area, then tickets right now in the lead up to the show should be pretty decently priced.
00:50:51
Ben
I just hate going to mile high for concerts. It's like, I've never, I've just really never enjoyed the arena shows. I can probably hear it from the backyard though. Also it's pride weekend, which is kind of funny.
00:51:07
Zach
Oh, that's fun.
00:51:09
Zach
but i know I have some Metallica friends who will be in Denver for the shows. But anyway, um
00:51:17
Zach
it was like on Friday, crowd was kind of tepid, and the band was particularly loose, which was odd. But...
00:51:28
Zach
um They played Nothing Else Matters and like everybody fucking got their phones out.
00:51:38
Zach
And it's like, oh yeah, that's, that's what, that's why there's 60,000 people here or whatever.
00:51:47
Ben
Right. yeah that makes sense.
00:51:52
Zach
Like, you know, I'm i'm a diehard. I know the words to the songs that they're the other songs. I know the fucking drum fills and all that shit. And I'm rocking out the whole time. But.
00:52:04
Zach
The reason that there's fucking everybody in the stadium is to hear nothing else matters and master of puppets and understand, man.
00:52:14
Ben
They would just play those all up but up at the top. And then...
00:52:17
Zach
No.
00:52:19
Ben
So i always thought it was funny. Every time I've seen Modest Mouse, they literally will just... They crank out all of their like main hits right up at the top. And then they do like a little fake-out closer. leaves. Yeah.
00:52:35
Ben
and then everybody like half the crowd leaves and then they'll take you like a 20 minute break and then they'll come back out and then like everyone moves closer and then, and then they'll do, and then they'll do like a second fake out closer and then they'll like go off for another 20 minutes and then they'll come back out and the crowd's even smaller than they play like all their old stuff.
00:52:56
Ben
It's a good way to like weed out the ty different types of fans you have at your show. But it was literally like, um, They opened with like, it was basically like dashboard and then it was float on and then it was, I don't know.
00:53:15
Ben
Lamb shades and then they maybe like two other songs and then like, it's like, okay, all right, everyone, thanks for coming out. Great time, like drive safe. And then the lights went out and then literally everyone just fucking like left.
00:53:33
Ben
Which I thought was like a very pretentious way to manage your shows, but also kind of funny.
00:53:38
Zach
It's kind of a dick move, but like, if you're going to follow it up with like some real deep cuts, then that's dope as hell.
00:53:47
Ben
Yeah.
00:53:49
Zach
Like, I wish they would be playing like a shitload of deep cuts, but I also think that if you're playing like a stadium like that, you have a, but like um a bigger responsibility to the audience.
00:54:05
Ben
Yeah.
00:54:08
Ben
Yeah, because that's, I mean, that did the income that you probably get on an arena tour is insane.
00:54:14
Ben
With that too, like, have you ever seen comedy at an arena?
00:54:19
Zach
No, but it seems awful.
00:54:22
Ben
Like, who the hell is going to see Bert in an arena?
00:54:28
Zach
Like, comedy with more than, like, honestly, like, more than, like, 300 to 500 people in the seems awful
00:54:41
Ben
Yeah.
00:54:42
Zach
Like, if you if you can't just, like, see the comedian, if you're looking at, like, a screen, why? You know what I mean?
00:54:53
Ben
Right.
00:54:54
Ben
Yeah, like... um
00:54:57
Zach
Because comedy is, like...
00:55:00
Zach
it's not even like music, you know, you're not going to record standup material in a studio. Like when you see a comedian doing their material, there's an, there's an audience that's replying, you know what I mean?
00:55:14
Zach
So even if it's the same material, it's going to be a different experience when, if you see it, you know what I mean?
00:55:22
Zach
So if it doesn't have that, a certain level of intimacy to it, um,
00:55:23
Ben
yeah
00:55:29
Zach
I think it's kind of it's kind of self-defeating.
00:55:34
Ben
Right. Yeah, exactly.
00:55:36
Zach
It's like, sure, Kevin Hart's fucking funny, but like it just it it can't hit the same in some giant 15,000-seat building.
00:55:48
Zach
building
00:55:50
Zach
watching a screen, right, versus, like, going to, know, the bar, the comedy club, whatever, and, and catching some local cats, because even if the material is not so good, it's, like, the performance is the art, and the moment is the art, right,
00:56:12
Ben
Yeah, like in even, yeah I don't know. Also like the delay of the sound to be kind of annoying, especially if you're, I don't know. I imagine if you're like trying to do comedy because theran the arena is so big, the feedback is probably going to take a couple seconds.
00:56:35
Ben
And also, yeah, the laugh, at the laugh, it probably just sounds weird. It just sounds like all like, you know, It's all melded together. Yeah, yeah i've never I've never seen an arena comedy show. i don't know if I want to
00:56:49
Zach
Yeah, and no, I mean, I've seen, like, the original Kings of Comedy tour movie, and, like, obviously those dudes all are funny.
00:56:49
Ben
Like...
00:56:59
Zach
Apparently Steve Harvey stole some of that material, but I don't really know all the details there. um But more to the point, it's just like, yeah, dude, going to an arena to see comedy just seems bizarre.
00:57:17
Zach
I think the biggest the biggest place that comedy could probably work at and maintain that type of intimacy is like a rock club, like a 1,000 seat.
00:57:30
Zach
And not even seat, you know, they normally it's a pit if there's a band type of thing.
00:57:35
Ben
yeah
00:57:37
Ben
Oh, whoa. Real quick. Before I forget on Grand America for switching topics.
00:57:46
Zach
Oh, yeah, no, we should probably talk a little more about theme parks.
00:57:49
Ben
Oh, it just popped in my head. i have to say when i left the park that first time, i was like, I'm actually excited to see this park as a Cedar Fair park.
Cedar Fair's Impact on Great America
00:58:01
Zach
no
00:58:03
Ben
because i think the no but that's a poorly managed cedar fair park i think great
00:58:05
Zach
You've been to the other one.
00:58:12
Zach
and the different
00:58:14
Ben
no i think um no i i think as a flag as like a main flagship park if for the chain as like a high money maker um I think also just because of the theme, because a lot of the theme at six foot gurney, Illinois or a gurney, great America ah still kind of intact. Like that, whatever you want to call it that a like Americana theme is still intact. And I think it actually, that actually works better under Cedar fair than a does under six flags with like fucking hair gel ads and, you know, all the like, uh, DC shit everywhere.
00:58:52
Ben
I think,
00:58:54
Zach
Okay, well, yankee Yankee Harbor is not coming back, my friend.
00:58:54
Ben
Great American.
00:58:58
Ben
Well, yeah, I know. I know. But I guess what I'm saying is like, I think.
00:59:04
Ben
Great America, Gurney, Great America might be the outlier of the it's probably the only park in the chain that is actually going to get better under Cedar Fair management.
00:59:18
Ben
It's probably in it like it's literally going to be the only one that gets better under Cedar Fair management. I think i think of in a weird and like this weird in this weird situation, like it's going to come out really far ahead.
00:59:31
Ben
And I actually think that the park's best days are ahead. I'm a little optimistic. um I don't know. i just it just It felt like there was life in the park again this past visit um that I haven't felt in a long time.
00:59:48
Ben
Plus it's like little details. Like every queue line was like, everything was like pressure washed. Everything was repainted. Those like little things that you are just used to seeing that have been broken for 10 plus years, like finally work again.
01:00:03
Ben
Like speakers were replaced.
01:00:08
Ben
potted plants that were just normally dead were actually like looking pretty good. i don't know. It just, it felt like a different park.
01:00:16
Zach
Yeah, but they started doing that shit last season.
01:00:16
Ben
And,
01:00:19
Ben
Well, right. I wasn't there last season, so it's possible this was all before that. But either way, it also, but they it seems like they stripped a lot of the bullshit out.
01:00:31
Ben
Like all the like the weird ads and just like the things that didn't make sense that were out of place. um don't know. And also just like little, it's like these tiny things like the sound effects and giant drop were working in the queue line.
01:00:46
Ben
And it looked like it was like cleaned up.
01:00:49
Ben
and repainted a lot of things like that. And also the grouppers all the rides are doing a pretty good job. The, ah the old like Batman Q line soundtrack was back on, which is, which is kind of cool.
01:01:05
Ben
Although that might've been on for a while.
01:01:10
Zach
I feel like I gotta say this.
01:01:10
Ben
Point.
01:01:13
Zach
i hope they bring back holiday in the park.
01:01:16
Ben
I mean, I feel like of all the parks, they probably should because if it's really if it's really a good if it's really as big of a moneymaker as they claim it is, like I don't see why they shouldn't.
01:01:29
Zach
I mean, it was there from 2018 through 2022. te twenty twentyt two
01:01:36
Zach
So, like...
01:01:36
Ben
Yeah.
01:01:38
Zach
I don't know. That seems like enough years of bringing it back that it must have been somewhat profitable.
01:01:46
Ben
Yeah. I mean, especially with these mild winters, doesn't... Although, I guess I wonder if it's some weird management thing of like layoffs and trying to doge their staff because they don't want to pay people full-time year-round salaries.
01:02:03
Zach
Oh, yeah, probably. Probably.
01:02:06
Ben
i you What's funny is it probably does make them money, but I have some weird feeling it's probably literally because they don't want to pay people year-round.
01:02:16
Zach
That makes a lot of sense.
01:02:20
Zach
Tony Clark doesn't want to have to fly out to Chicago in the winter to do media.
01:02:31
Ben
But yeah, like, um I wish I got a ride on Demon to see how that was changing. um or see how that was in, what shape that was in. yeah, I don't know. i I just, it may have just been like a one-off day, like a really good day, but I actually felt, I was very leery of the whole Switch, the whole merger, and i actually feel pretty good about it now. At least for me.
01:02:56
Ben
Great America. have The other parks, I think a lot of the other parks are probably going to get fucked. Like, um, obviously Six Flags America is closing. the
01:03:06
Zach
Six Flags Great Adventure.
01:03:09
Ben
you think Great Adventure is going to close? Or is it just
01:03:11
Zach
o At this point, no.
01:03:17
Zach
Although, see like, I don't know, man.
01:03:23
Zach
Anything could happen, right?
01:03:27
Ben
I think Great Adventure is safe, but I have a feeling they're goingnna try to they're going to try to change it into more of a like a family park.
01:03:38
Ben
So I think they're they don't need to invest in thrill rides there anymore. I think it's their main transition.
01:03:49
Ben
so
01:03:49
Zach
I think um ah California's Great America is definitely done.
01:03:56
Ben
Oh, for sure.
01:03:56
Zach
And will.
01:03:56
Ben
Well, yeah. My prediction is that they're going to want to close Discovery Kingdom because that park doesn't make sense.
01:04:07
Ben
I would almost say it's like one of the worst Six Flags in the Chain that I've been to.
01:04:15
Ben
Like they take out the dry side completely. Maybe they leave the zoo. I don't know. Or they just sell the whole thing. And then they, so they transition the California theme park market into purely magic mountain and knots.
01:04:31
Ben
So like they try to make magic mountain more of the like main draw for the California, like get people in from San Francisco to drive the five hours. Maybe they add a hotel or a resort or something.
01:04:45
Zach
Yeah, I don't see that happening.
01:04:47
Ben
The resort part or the discovery kingdom.
01:04:51
Zach
ah Discovery Kingdom. i don't know. I don't know if Vallejo is. it doesn't. I haven't been there.
01:05:01
Zach
But it doesn't seem like the most desirable area for land in the Bay Area. But I, again, haven't been there. I don't really know much about it. But they definitely could just close it because um and in terms of Magic Mountain,
01:05:17
Ben
Yeah. I mean...
01:05:21
Zach
I don't see them pouring that much resource into that park, right?
01:05:25
Zach
and don't think they'll sell it off. Currently, but I think Knott's is going to be even more of the favorite, right? Because
01:05:39
Zach
look, it's just, it's not.
01:05:41
Ben
Yeah, I think Knott's is always going to be there. I don't think that park is going anywhere. i don't think that like it's going to remain as is. But I do think that there's enough market to keep both Magic Mount and Knott's just as like different experiences. Yeah.
01:06:02
Ben
But I do think that in the state of, for the state of California, like the Bay area doesn't really need theme parks. I mean, Portland doesn't have a theme park besides like two small ones.
01:06:14
Ben
Seattle doesn't have a theme park besides wild waves. Like for some reason, just
01:06:18
Zach
Hey, hey, can I just say fuck off?
01:06:25
Ben
I'm just saying, You guys up in the Bay Area, like, they're just not, like, the, like, the West Coast besides Southern California just isn't, for some reason, they're just not, like, theme park people.
01:06:40
Ben
It's the same with, like, Colorado and Montana, and, like, they're just, for some reason, like, people just aren't, like, theme park people unless they go to, like, Disney for the weekend.
01:06:51
Ben
You know what i mean? They go out of the way to...
01:06:52
Zach
Oh, goddammit. You're not wrong.
01:06:56
Ben
Right. Like, I don't know. It's, it's because it it's just, you just don't need it. You do need theme parks in Ohio. You do need theme parks in like Indiana and Pennsylvania and, um, you know, Wisconsin, whatever.
01:07:12
Zach
Yeah, but, like, I feel like San Jose needs a theme park, right? And they have Great America.
01:07:19
Ben
But I feel like no one's going to miss it. Like, cause it's such a, it's such a transient place and it's so many, there's so many like new residents there. Like it doesn't, it doesn't like that area doesn't have any like long time residents. It's all like people who move there for a couple of years and they move out. It's like a fast moving just transient place. Same with Portland and Seattle. It's, I don't know, Denver, like
01:07:48
Ben
It'll be missed, but I don't think it's like ah it's a real hit. Whereas, like do you close a theme park in Pennsylvania, and people will fucking you know people will lose their mind. You close a theme park in Ohio, and you'll be put on like a terrorist watch list.
01:08:06
Zach
They closed Geago Lake, dude.
01:08:09
Ben
Yeah, but it was like, there was still Cedar Point and Kings Island. i mean, it's that's true, though. That's a good point. But I think that one is a little different. And actually, no, people did freak out about gigo Lake.
01:08:23
Ben
But I also... But there was a park 45 minutes down the road, too.
01:08:28
Ben
i mean, that wasn't... That was a dumb idea. Trying to compete with Cedar Point 45 minutes away.
01:08:34
Zach
Yeah.
01:08:35
Ben
In the same metro area, too. Like...
01:08:39
Ben
um I don't know. I think we're going to see some major changes, but I also think that after a couple of years, I mean, is, is the closing of six flags, America and six flags, America or six ways, America and great America.
01:09:01
Ben
Um, but just kind of funny that there are two parks with America and their name closing.
01:09:08
Zach
I feel like they're going to be shrinking their portfolio even more. their portfolio even more
01:09:09
Ben
What does that say?
01:09:16
Ben
yeah With that too, though, I think this like a lot of people say Valleyfair and Dorney and Michigan's Adventure are next. i think
01:09:27
Ben
doorny or I think Michigan's Adventure and Valleyfair are safe because they're those are like easy markets because they don't really have to build anything new.
01:09:38
Ben
They're basically, they're like those like small time, like day trip picnic school group kind of parks. I mean, Valley Fair doesn't really put that much money in their park to upkeep it.
01:09:49
Ben
mean, they don't build new rides all the time and it does just fine. um
01:09:56
Ben
Dorney though.
01:09:58
Ben
i mean, is Dorney like, is Dorney, it has to be somewhat of a popular park, right? I mean, if they built a dive coaster,
01:10:06
Ben
Yeah,
01:10:06
Zach
Yeah, I mean, that's the thing is, right, they have a huge, huge portfolio now. And so I'm sure what they're doing is not only looking at how profitable the parks are, but also looking at how valuable the parks and the land they sit on are
01:10:29
Ben
yeah and with that, I don't think Dorney's land is that valuable. Is Allentown, like I don't see Allentown as like.
01:10:37
Zach
And also, like, to factor it in, what parks do they actually own versus which parks are they just in operating agreements for?
01:10:47
Ben
um Well, isn't.
01:10:51
Ben
What's the Great Escape is one of those, right? They don't own it.
01:10:56
Zach
No, I think they do.
01:10:58
Ben
Oh,
01:10:59
Zach
I think, like, Darien Lake...
01:11:02
Ben
oh right. Yep.
01:11:05
Ben
And actually, that's another park that I think is safe. Because Darien, like, it's just like a small market. And because of the concerts, I think that park actually does pretty well.
01:11:14
Zach
Well, here, let's see.
01:11:15
Ben
They might close...
01:11:16
Ben
They might close rides, though. Like, I could see Darien, like, ripping out a couple coasters, but... And downsizing. Um...
01:11:31
Zach
I'm trying to find out a number
01:11:37
Zach
and like a list.
01:11:39
Ben
orney
01:11:48
Ben
Yeah, I would, if I had to like put any money on parks, like if I had to pick another park for them to close, after Six Flags America and after Great America, i would put money on Discover Kingdom before Dorney or Darien Lake.
01:12:12
Ben
And as far as safe ones, like I guess a good way to do it is like if you go through the ones that are safe, like Gurney Great America is definitely safe. Over Texas, Fiesta Texas, over Georgia, I think are good. Magic Mountain, Knots, those are probably definitely good.
01:12:32
Ben
Worlds Fun.
01:12:34
Zach
Um, well, I don't know.
01:12:39
Zach
Worlds of Fun is like, maybe.
01:12:43
Zach
Frontier City, that could probably go.
01:12:48
Ben
True, although but ah but at the same time, Frontier City is one of those that it's so small that it probably doesn't cost them that much to operate.
01:12:58
Ben
i mean, let's see, they yeah they have four coasters. Their newest one was from 2019, Mine Train, Kitty Coaster.
01:13:11
Ben
Diamondback is espionau
01:13:15
Zach
Glad I wrote it.
01:13:17
Zach
I'm looking at the map and I'm like, i don't know which ones.
01:13:21
Ben
Apparently, a Frontier City, they got um Six Flags of Astroworlds Mine Train. and But it was in storage.
01:13:37
Zach
What about LaRonde?
01:13:40
Ben
That's one...
01:13:43
Ben
I think that one could be on the chopping block because of how neglected the park is. Like they haven't,
01:13:51
Ben
I mean, the park, that park is shit.
01:13:57
Zach
I haven't been there in many years, but yeah, that's what I'm like, that one's standing out to me too. It's like, i don't know.
01:14:06
Zach
We're going to have to let that one ruminate and revisit that soon.
01:14:12
Ben
yeah Yeah. I think that's that's one of those parks where
01:14:19
Ben
it doesn't really offer anything special and everything is garbage to where i don't like no one's going to miss anything. Ednor, SLC is their newest coaster from 2010, which is an SLC from...
01:14:35
Zach
They were supposed to get Green Lantern.
01:14:40
Ben
That's right.
01:14:43
Ben
Oh God. And then their stand-up coaster was bad.
01:14:47
Zach
Yes, it was. It was one of those Intamin ones.
01:14:53
Ben
To this day, it was probably like one of the roughest roller coasters I've been on.
01:14:59
Ben
It just had such an awful like side-to-side shuffle. It wasn't like
01:15:05
Ben
it wasn't ah It wasn't like I don't don't know how to describe It wasn't like a abrupt headbanging. It was almost like somebody was... Like if you were sitting in a computer chair and someone grabbed the computer chair and they were just like slowly like sloshing you like side to side.
01:15:27
Ben
don't know. It was hard to explain. But it had some funky forces on it that were very painful with those restraints.
01:15:37
Ben
Le Cobra.
01:15:39
Zach
Yeah, that was a weird park.
01:15:43
Zach
I remember of our friends went on the mini mine train
01:15:52
Zach
by like basically like just sitting down and when they were yelled at just like kind of waving it off.
01:16:05
Zach
And I was like, yeah, this is why people don't like Americans in other countries.
01:16:13
Ben
To be fair, everyone in Montreal knows English, but they just refuse to speak it.
01:16:20
Zach
Yeah, I know, because when I when i was there, i was eating some poutine, and this dude comes up to me and asks me in French, you know, and I'm like, I don't know, what?
01:16:35
Zach
And he's like, where did you get that?
01:16:47
Zach
So that was a very, like, Like, what the fuck was was that about, right?
01:16:52
Ben
so
01:16:55
Ben
Also too, like and this is I heard this from friends that have lived there. Basically, the French Canadians, their resentment is towards like other Canadians that visit and don't speak French.
01:17:13
Ben
but if you tell But if they find out you're an American, then it's cool and they'll talk English to you.
01:17:20
Ben
like Their resentment about not about speaking French is really just towards the Canadians. but if you But once you they know you're an American, it's like, oh, you're just like a dumb American. Then they're cool with it.
01:17:31
Zach
Oh, well,
01:17:34
Zach
that's kind of weird.
01:17:36
Zach
i guess that explains a lot about that episode of Letter Kenny.
01:17:43
Zach
Which I haven't watched that show in a long time.
01:17:46
Ben
Yeah, same. I don't, I never thought I would, I mean, I didn't get bored of it necessarily, but I mean that format kind of, it runs its course.
01:17:57
Zach
Yeah, it's like, i think I watched like the first six seasons.
01:18:02
Zach
And that's about all I needed.
01:18:05
Ben
Yeah.
01:18:07
Zach
feel like that was plenty.
01:18:09
Ben
Yeah, six is fine.
01:18:11
Ben
God, I'm looking at all these old Laron.
01:18:17
Ben
Yeah, Laron can go. no one's going to miss this park. Even what's funny is like you look at these videos from like I was watching this Coaster Force video and even in the Coaster Force video, everything like looks old and shitty.
01:18:31
Ben
And that was 12 years ago and nothing has changed since then. There's probably not even anything that has new paint in that park.
01:18:41
Ben
That park has not seen a ah paintbrush since probably the ninety s
01:18:47
Zach
I mean...
01:18:49
Ben
Goliath is good though.
01:18:52
Zach
yeah my... 300th roller coaster is there.
01:19:00
Ben
i would almost say that Goliath is one of, still one of my favorite hypers.
01:19:07
Zach
It's really good because the layout so simple.
01:19:07
Ben
It's, I know.
01:19:10
Zach
Just like airtime, airtime, airtime.
01:19:13
Ben
And there's no ejector, but every every bunny hill has like perfect floater.
01:19:20
Zach
Yeah, and I remember, I'm pretty sure I rode in the front and back, and like both were really good.
01:19:20
Ben
It's like...
01:19:29
Ben
Yeah, we got a bunch of rides on it, even in the middle rows. like The middle rows are still pretty good. like Yeah, that's such a fun ride.
01:19:39
Zach
I'm pretty sure I snuck a camera on that ride.
01:19:43
Ben
Nice. I mean, I bet no one cared at that park.
01:19:48
Zach
No, the scary one was when I snuck my camera on fucking Behemoth.
01:19:54
Ben
Oh.
01:19:54
Zach
The year it opened.
01:19:55
Ben
for
01:19:57
Zach
was on that same trip.
01:19:59
Ben
Although even there, I wonder if i wonder if Canada's Wonderland is weird about cameras.
01:20:05
Zach
I mean, I know Cedar Fair is and was at that time.
01:20:10
Zach
But, yeah, I, um...
01:20:13
Zach
I think Leron definitely is probably in that pile.
01:20:19
Ben
Yeah.
01:20:20
Zach
I'm like, maybe Worlds of Fun?
01:20:25
Zach
Possibly St. Louis?
01:20:25
Ben
For clo...
01:20:27
Ben
For closing?
01:20:28
Zach
Yeah.
01:20:30
Ben
Um...
01:20:32
Ben
Oh yeah, I suppose... I forget that they are kind of close together. That's a...
01:20:36
Zach
Eh, they're not, like, super close. But, like...
01:20:42
Zach
I don't know.
01:20:42
Ben
But see,
01:20:42
Zach
They just both seem like...
01:20:45
Zach
Parks that maybe aren't super profitable? I don't know.
01:20:50
Ben
yeah, I mean, yeah, hard to say.
01:20:55
Ben
i mean, St. Louis seems fine, but also, we' I don't know, because World's of Fun has a water park, right?
01:21:03
Zach
Yes. Yep.
01:21:04
Ben
and and Oh, and Six Flags St. Louis does too, I think, right?
01:21:08
Zach
yep
01:21:09
Ben
Huh, okay.
01:21:10
Ben
Maybe, I don't know. I guess like it wouldn't surprise me if one of them closes, but I don't think I could give a good answer of which one I think would close. I think because like Worlds of Fun seems pretty solid.
01:21:23
Ben
Those parks have also been around for so long. And I mean, they were clearly successful then, but i don't know, is part of their success due to their like competition?
01:21:36
Ben
don't know.
01:21:38
Zach
I don't think they compete with each other because st Louis and Kansas City aren't really like close to each other like that.
01:21:47
Ben
Yeah, it's true.
01:21:49
Ben
Oh, damn. So there's a little monster POV that was from Coaster Force, and it's running completely trimless, and it looks insane.
01:21:58
Zach
Oh, shit. Yeah, that ride wasn't great. That's my 300th. It was not great when I rode it.
01:22:07
Ben
Yeah, it was like slow, and it was boring.
01:22:10
Zach
Yeah, the deadly combination.
01:22:11
Ben
And rough.
01:22:15
Ben
One of the operators is just like air drumming as it pulls in.
01:22:24
Ben
All right. So my, yeah, I'll add Laron to the pick of go die.
01:22:30
Zach
We're up in the ante from the, uh, the coaster death pool to the park death pool.
01:22:40
Zach
Yeah, dude.
01:22:40
Ben
Although I could also, also with any parks closing, I also could see them not closing for a couple of years.
01:22:48
Ben
Like, because once they get rid of the two America parks, you know, it might be a minute before they close another.
01:22:58
Ben
I think overall it's fascinating how Great Adventure has not announced their new ride yet.
01:23:06
Zach
Yeah, they've just been like, I assume
01:23:12
Zach
just chugging along.
01:23:15
Ben
Damn, one of the corkscrews at L'Aaron is called Super Minaj.
01:23:20
Ben
ah
01:23:22
Zach
Does it have three inversions?
01:23:25
Ben
um I think it has two.
01:23:38
Zach
Well, shit, dude.
01:23:40
Zach
It's starting to get a bit late.
01:23:42
Ben
Yeah, same. Same over here.
01:23:45
Zach
Yeah, I know.
01:23:46
Ben
I made the...
01:23:46
Zach
It's even later for you.
01:23:48
Zach
But it's nice to be back.
01:23:51
Ben
Yeah, if... Let's see. I think this will probably come out before the two backlog episodes.
01:23:59
Zach
Yeah, so we'll have two episodes we recorded, i don't know, six weeks ago or whatever.
01:23:59
Ben
So...
01:24:06
Zach
But you guys are good to hear that soon.
01:24:06
Ben
this is This is probably the longest break I think the show has had in a while.
01:24:13
Ben
That's okay. okay
01:24:14
Zach
Yeah, it's kind of like a season break or whatever.
01:24:17
Ben
Yeah. Life's been too a weird lately.
01:24:22
Zach
There's a lot going on, yeah.
01:24:23
Ben
Yeah.
01:24:26
Zach
Maybe we can get into more of that sometime soon.
01:24:29
Ben
yeah Yeah, it's...
01:24:31
Zach
Or we could talk about theme parks.
01:24:32
Ben
a
01:24:33
Zach
I don't know.
01:24:37
Ben
I'm still job hunting shitty job market. and
01:24:43
Zach
Could always learn to grow weed.
01:24:46
Ben
true.
01:24:48
Ben
Or, uh, figure out how to sell sales interfaces for the weed industry.
01:24:56
Zach
There you go.
01:24:58
Ben
there is an ah There is an agriculture component to SAP that a few companies use. I wonder if there's a way to like implement that for weed.
01:25:10
Ben
I'm sure, that I mean, there there should be. But problem is, though, that those i mean those projects are super expensive. i don't know if weed companies have the capital to like invest in a big yeah ERP system like that.
01:25:26
Zach
No, because everybody's trying to do everything for as cheap as possible while also making the most amount of money.
01:25:34
Ben
Yeah.
01:25:37
Ben
Yeah, that makes sense.
01:25:40
Ben
Mm
01:25:41
Zach
But, you know, there's always money in the banana stand.
01:25:45
Ben
hmm.
01:25:47
Zach
I don't know why.
01:25:52
Ben
Only, only, there's always only only fans.
01:25:56
Zach
Yeah, there you go.
01:25:58
Ben
I've got a ah shed in the backyard to utilize for some movies, I guess. don't know.
01:26:07
Zach
Is this before after it becomes the International Roller Coaster Museum?
01:26:11
Ben
Maybe at the same time.
01:26:14
Zach
That seems like a pretty good plan.
01:26:18
Zach
Look, there's... there's that's that's Like, look. The Venn diagram of rollercoaster weirdos...
01:26:27
Ben
and gay men
01:26:30
Zach
Yeah. Yeah.
01:26:30
Ben
and and furries and all sorts of things
01:26:33
Zach
Yeah, yeah, and like different kinks, yeah. That Venn diagram.
01:26:40
Zach
it's It's pretty, it's got ah it's got a lot of overlapping space.
01:26:46
Zach
The problem is when people start showing up to get tours.
01:26:53
Ben
ah You got to make sure you really
01:26:58
Ben
no when someone comes to visit, you got to know what what the exact intention is. It's like, what exactly are you here for?
01:27:09
Zach
I'm game for whatever.
01:27:13
Ben
oh my God. Okay. So lately, my YouTube algorithm keeps feeding me all videos with less than like a hundred views. And this, I just found one. okay. So this one has 201 views, but it's, uh, it's a Bush light apple flavored review.
01:27:37
Zach
That's disgusting.
01:27:40
Zach
Like, you said bush light, and I was like, ugh. And then you said apple flavor, and I was like, ugh.
01:27:47
Ben
Yeah, it looks disgusting.
01:27:49
Zach
I, like, weirdly can really picture the person that that that is, like, stoked about that, though.
01:27:59
Zach
I'm pretty sure they're wearing Carhartt.
01:28:07
Ben
like a golf tea
01:28:09
Zach
Not the reviewer. I just meant like the like the person that's like, holy shit, Bush Light Apple?
01:28:12
Ben
I just.
01:28:19
Ben
fish
01:28:23
Ben
Oh, now I'm getting weird. Mike's harder lemonade reviews. Man, this is getting dark.
01:28:29
Zach
One time YouTube get like was like, you probably want to watch this. And it was like a dude that's like, I'm going to drink and smoke cigarettes in the park all day.
01:28:43
Ben
Oh yeah. Um, that guy, that guy's channel blew up though.
01:28:51
Ben
even, even was recently interviewed by, uh, that goblin guy.
YouTube Algorithm Oddities
01:28:58
Zach
That checks out.
01:29:00
Ben
What is it? David Jones or something?
01:29:02
Zach
I don't know. it was kind of sad.
01:29:09
Ben
I mean, imagine doing that like in 2011.
01:29:15
Ben
And just how grim of a start that channel must have like must be.
01:29:21
Zach
Yeah, right? I mean...
01:29:25
Ben
Because if it doesn't kick off, you're just alone in a park smoking cigarettes and drinking beer.
01:29:31
Zach
he wasn't even drinking beer. He was drinking, like, ciders.
01:29:38
Zach
That was the sad... It was sad because it was like he was drinking ciders.
01:29:45
Zach
and I think he was smoking Reds.
01:29:49
Ben
Nice.
01:29:51
Zach
I was like,
01:29:54
Zach
well, that's, i don't know if that's what depression looks like, but that's certainly something.
01:30:05
Ben
In the interview I saw with him and Goblin, they were like like doing user-submitted questions. And it was like, what's the best cigarette for drunk driving?
01:30:23
Ben
Apparently it was the American spirit black.
01:30:26
Zach
Oh, okay.
01:30:30
Zach
that's a That's a pretty specific answer.
01:30:34
Ben
I've never had one of those myself.
01:30:37
Zach
Nor have I.
01:30:39
Ben
I was always the, either the orange pack or the light green pack.
01:30:45
Zach
i think I only ever had the yellow.
01:30:49
Zach
But now the idea of like smoking is kind of gross.
01:30:53
Ben
Yeah.
01:30:55
Zach
Like a cigarette.
01:30:57
Zach
That's the other thing is like just being like smoking a bunch of cigarettes and drinking without any weed. That like seems nauseating to me.
01:31:09
Ben
Oh, without it? See, usually usually when if I mix with the weed, that's when I get nauseous.
01:31:10
Zach
Yeah.
01:31:14
Zach
Oh, really?
01:31:16
Ben
Yeah, have like the opposite sometimes.
01:31:20
Zach
Yeah, for me, it's always like... this I think especially with the cigarettes, it's like... Helps settle the stomach a bit.
01:31:30
Zach
But anyway, I digress.
01:31:32
Ben
Yeah. Well... I'm ready to
01:31:38
Ben
bounce and make some summer episodes going forward. Our lives are going to be a little up in the air. That's okay.
01:31:46
Zach
yeah
01:31:48
Zach
a
01:31:48
Ben
We at least got on, hey, we at least got on, both got on one of the new coasters for the season.
01:31:55
Zach
Yeah, we had we had something to actually give some feedback on.
01:31:59
Ben
i mean, that's a pretty good start, so.
01:32:02
Zach
Yeah, that's a good that's a good way to start off, to kick off, you know, 2025 season.
01:32:08
Ben
Yeah.
Podcast Wrap-Up and Community Invite
01:32:10
Zach
And yeah, it's good to be back.
01:32:14
Zach
So we'll ah have some some more content coming in your way soon, y'all.
01:32:20
Zach
um You got anything else tonight, Ben?
01:32:23
Ben
ah no, think I'm all good.
01:32:27
Zach
All righty-o. Cool. Well, um thanks, dude. This was fun.
01:32:35
Ben
ah yeah.
01:32:36
Zach
And thank you all for listening. Join our Discord. And... Yeah, we will be back shortly.
01:32:50
Zach
So until then, your favorite coaster sucks.
01:32:53
Ben
Your favorite coaster sucks.
01:33:01
Zach
Yep.