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From Rock Star to Horror Films: Charlie Hall on Mediumship, Movies, and Creative Evolution
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In this engaging episode of What's Kraken?, host Jo Szewczyk sits down with Charlie Hall, a multi-talented creative force in the horror and paranormal world. Charlie discusses her journey from being the bassist of the all girl rock band The Suffrajets to her current work in horror films, including her role in "Party Politics" and being a PA in Director Jem Karto's "Lake on the Cabin." She shares fascinating insights about her lifelong experiences as a medium, starting from age three, and her family's spiritual legacy. The conversation delves into her recent zombie film experience, complete with memorable makeup mishaps, and her upcoming screening at HorrorCon UK. Charlie also opens up about her evolution as an artist, writer for Haunted Magazine, and her perspectives on the paranormal world, offering valuable advice about pursuing creative passions at any age.
Key Timestamps: 00:00 - Introduction and zombie film discussion 02:30 - Charlie's experience with zombie makeup in "Party Politics" 03:42 - Discussion of Jem Karto's "Lake on the Cabin" and HorrorCon UK 08:03 - Charlie's artistic journey and background 09:42 - Early spiritual experiences and family background 14:43 - Intense paranormal experience at Crumlin Road Jail 20:18 - Career advice and future projects
Key Points:
- Charlie Hall's transition from signed musician (The Suffrajets) to horror film creator and writer
- Recent crew work in Director Jem Karto's "Lake on the Cabin" (screening at HorrorCon UK on May 18th at 4:30)
- Family background in spirituality (father is a druid, mother is a medium)
- Experience as a medium since age three
- Writing contributions to Haunted Magazine
- Upcoming projects including potential book and TV show about Northern Ireland's paranormal locations
Guest Information: Charlie Hall is a multi-faceted creative professional with experience in music, acting, writing, and the paranormal field. She's a brand ambassador for Haunted Magazine and has recently ventured into horror filmmaking. Her latest work in Jem Karto's "Lake on the Cabin" has already won three awards and will be screened at HorrorCon UK's 10th anniversary.
Resources:
- Find Charlie Hall on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/HauntedCharlieHall
- Haunted Magazine website: https://www.hauntedmagazineprintshop.com/
- Independent Horror Society
- HorrorCon UK (May 18th screening)
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Transcript
Intro
Introduction and Humor with Charlie Hall
00:00:08
Jo
ah ah therero Hey everyone, Joe here. I almost said Jim Phoenix out of habit, but we've got a spectacular what's cracking. First one of season, whatever the season this is, I've got none other than Charlie Hall with me.
00:00:20
Jo
Charlie is going to be most known for a zombie hickey. No, no, no, not most known for, but we're talking about zombie hickey.
00:00:27
Charlie
No!
00:00:30
Jo
So Charlie, first of all,
00:00:32
Charlie
Everyone's talking about my zombie hickey.
00:00:33
Jo
I know. Thanks for coming on the show. This is pretty cool. You were suggested very highly by someone I admire and look up to. So I just want to say thank you for taking your time and coming on What's Kraken for our new season and saying hello.
Zombie Film Adventures and Makeup Magic
00:00:47
Charlie
yep no Thank you very much. Thank you for having me on. and yeah It's really good to to get to chat to you.
00:00:53
Jo
Yeah, it's amazing how things just kind of work out for right reasons. And I know you've been quite busy with writing and making movies and being in movies and zombies that may or may not have extracurricular activities.
00:01:07
Jo
I don't know. So really wonders, could you talk about the zombie hickey, please?
00:01:08
Charlie
but
00:01:12
Charlie
Yes, indeed. and Well, last week we started filming a a short zombie film called Party Politics, which is written and directed by Rhys Davies Santibanes.
00:01:23
Charlie
I was just so excited because they kind of approached me and said, would you like a part in the film? And I thought, well, I haven't done acting in like many, many, many years. I'm normally behind the camera. I'm normally doing sound or, you know, whatever.
00:01:32
Jo
Right.
00:01:33
Charlie
and And he said, you'll be a police officer. was like, okay. And he said, but then you're going to be turned zombie. I'm I'm totally in.
00:01:41
Jo
yeah
00:01:41
Charlie
Zombie me up. You know, I was so excited.
00:01:43
Jo
love it. Right.
00:01:44
Charlie
Yeah. And i mean, we had a wonderful makeup artist, a girl called Zoe, and she literally did all these like, know, big bites and loads of blood on all of us.
00:01:45
Jo
i love it
00:01:54
Jo
right
00:01:54
Charlie
And and it's kind of funny because you saying about the hickey, because we all had sort of neck bites and and they're really gnarly. And like everyone kept saying, oh, you look like you've got a big hickey. And even my dad in Ireland, when I sent in the pictures, he was like, sweet Jesus, that's a grand hickey, darling.
00:02:09
Charlie
i was like, oh, my God, my giant hickey.
00:02:13
Jo
you As long as you gets to get tagged in Instagram, like Charlie Hall and Hickey, like as long as they can get like a special tag for it, you're still fine.
00:02:17
Charlie
Yeah. Yeah.
00:02:20
Jo
I love that the the first rollback in a while is is zombie. Like,
Behind-the-Scenes of 'Lake on the Cabin vs. Cabin on the Lake'
00:02:25
Jo
please, I can probably play a police. I can definitely play a zombie.
00:02:28
Charlie
yeah
00:02:28
Jo
Like you just put me in a chair for a while. What's the chair like for zombie makeup? How long does it take? Curious.
00:02:36
Charlie
I mean, well, because this was just, you know, it was a ah ah small short film, we actually had zero budget.
00:02:39
Jo
Right. Right.
00:02:41
Charlie
So, I mean, we just worked with what we could, you know, we're we're a good team of friends and we all help each other out, you know, get other people from outside in to help. And it did actually take, because there was about, I think it was five or six people that needed to be made up for the the actual nighttime zombie scene.
00:02:54
Jo
Yeah.
00:02:57
Jo
Wow.
00:02:57
Charlie
And it did take a you know, a few sort of hours to get everybody sort of done up because it was it was the fact that we had to have all out our faces all sort of painted to look like, you know, pasty and dead and and then all the blood and stuff added afterwards.
00:03:04
Jo
Yeah.
00:03:10
Jo
The recently deceased. Yeah.
00:03:12
Charlie
And it's quite funny because when I rang the makeup artist and i just said, hey, we're we're doing this film, you know, you want to come and help out and maybe kind of look make us all look, shall we say dead? She was like, yes, yes, absolutely.
00:03:23
Jo
been waiting all my life for this. Absolutely.
00:03:25
Charlie
Everyone loves doing that kind of paint.
00:03:25
Jo
I can make people look dead. but So you brought the makeup artist in
00:03:29
Charlie
Yeah, yeah, because she worked with me on another film, actually.
00:03:30
Jo
That's the superpower.
00:03:34
Jo
See, it's a small world type thing. You worked on one film and you rolled to another film. You bring the people you like in into other adventures.
00:03:40
Charlie
Yeah, exactly.
00:03:41
Jo
that That's pretty giving. And you find that in some arts by finding that more in horror.
00:03:47
Charlie
Mm-hmm.
00:03:48
Jo
Like, I think the horror community might just be more welcoming to like, of course, we'll help out. This is our jam, you know?
00:03:53
Charlie
Yeah, because...
00:03:55
Jo
So
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00:03:55
Jo
you got that one. And I know you also have a new film that's going to be in the HorrorCon UK. I think that's in Shetfield. Yes.
00:04:04
Charlie
Yes, in Sheffield, uh-huh.
00:04:04
Jo
Yes. 18th of May. And the film is being screened at 430. And it's called, of course, a Lake on the Cabin versus the Cabin on the Lake. The Lake's on the Cabin this time.
00:04:14
Charlie
Yes, like in the cabin, yeah.
00:04:16
Jo
I love it. It's like the switch route. So what was your experience with the lake on the cabin?
00:04:21
Charlie
Well, that was actually a film that I was asked to join the crew on. I mean, that's written and directed by Jim Carter and produced by Aaron Rees-Dane. Some really lovely guys that got me involved.
00:04:30
Jo
Wow.
00:04:32
Charlie
And I mean, it was fantastic.
00:04:32
Jo
Yeah.
00:04:34
Charlie
It was the first sort of bigger film that I've been involved in. i mean, it was probably in a a big location out in the country in Crawley. And it literally is.
00:04:43
Jo
Really? Really? That's where I got it?
00:04:45
Charlie
Yes. Yeah, it's literally a big beautiful cavern by a massive lake.
00:04:46
Jo
Oh, wow.
00:04:50
Charlie
And it was just wow. I was like, picture myself, am I really on this film? Yeah. Yeah. oh
00:04:55
Jo
Oh, that's the cool thing. then That's a cool thing. So they're screening that at the HorrorCon UK then and hopefully you get some prizes.
00:05:02
Charlie
ye
00:05:03
Jo
I'm guessing. Yes, yes, yes.
00:05:05
Charlie
yeah
00:05:05
Jo
why It will.
00:05:06
Charlie
I mean, we with that, still it's a really big horror festival over here.
00:05:09
Jo
Yeah.
00:05:10
Charlie
Like it's been going, I think this year as well as its 10th anniversary. So we're really chuffed to be selected for that.
00:05:13
Jo
Wow. Wow.
00:05:15
Charlie
And we got our three awards so far for that film. And it's going through some of the other festivals at the minute. And actually it was really funny because when we're in the film, without giving spoilers, but
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00:05:25
Charlie
we do have a mannequin in the film.
00:05:26
Charlie
And in one of the scenes, the director wanted to make it a much bigger scene. And he said, you know what? I want the mannequin to be over the other side of the lake. Will take it over there? We're like, what? carrying it over the other of the lake.
00:05:39
Charlie
Anyway, so me and the producer Owen, we kind it was winter and it was freezing cold and it was muddy and it was January and we were carrying this mannequin, you know, half each across this lake.
00:05:44
Jo
Oh my god.
00:05:48
Charlie
We got over the bridge and oh my goodness, it was just knee deep mud. And it was like some kind of comedy show. The two of us, half hanging onto this mannequin, I got stuck in the mud, tried to pull my feet out, my shoe come off,
00:05:57
Jo
Mm.
00:06:02
Charlie
And all of my shoe got full of mud.
00:06:02
Jo
course it does.
00:06:04
Charlie
And I was like, try and hang on to the mannequin, try not to fall over. I was like, oh, God, I'm stuck. And then we hit everyone. It was just such a comedy show. And we eventually got out and got this mannequin over the side of the lake and over the other side. And it was a killer shot. Wait till you see it. It's so cool.
00:06:18
Jo
Well, it better be.
00:06:18
Charlie
But, time yeah.
00:06:19
Jo
I was always like, yeah, don't lose the prop.
00:06:20
Charlie
Yeah. like
00:06:22
Jo
We can lose the people, though. The people are fine.
00:06:24
Charlie
Yeah, we nearly dropped her in the lake.
00:06:24
Jo
We lose one. Yeah, we'll film it for a B footage. But don't lose the prop, though.
00:06:29
Charlie
Yeah.
00:06:30
Jo
That's important. That's the...
00:06:31
Charlie
No, she's one of the main barts. Oh,
00:06:34
Jo
Gotta do it. That's that's look pretty cool.
00:06:35
Charlie
it's such great fun, the film. Yeah.
00:06:37
Jo
Oh my god, i didn't know. I thought it would be great location. it has to be nice outside. Or winter. Whichever. Whichever you guys want to film in is all good.
00:06:45
Charlie
Yeah, no, it's absolutely stunning out there, especially when when the summer's going down. It just lit up in a bright red sky and stunning over the lake.
00:06:50
Jo
and bet. Yeah. Yeah, don't
00:06:54
Charlie
Really beautiful. But it's quite an intense story, that one, because it's it's a psychological horror. it's basically an artist goes to a cabin you know for some creative time and space.
00:07:00
Jo
know.
00:07:03
Jo
Right.
00:07:03
Charlie
And she starts to struggle with you know what she thinks is real and what's not real. But is there something else that might be there as well? She doesn't know, so
00:07:14
Jo
i like that. I like that. i I love horror movies, obviously. And i like the psychological deep burns that those are my kind of like my
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00:07:24
Jo
jam.
00:07:24
Jo
And i love how they can play.
00:07:24
Charlie
Yeah.
00:07:27
Jo
And I'm always trying to think of like, how would I do this movie with the mannequin in the like
00:07:31
Charlie
Yeah.
00:07:31
Jo
And, you know, I'm just saying for nothing, if you guys want, I know there's another film festival and it's in the United States is from Gen Con, which is the biggest gaming festival ever.
00:07:38
Charlie
Yeah.
00:07:40
Jo
But they also have a film, a little thing coming out for films as well that, ah yeah, you you know, put your head in.
00:07:44
Charlie
yeah
00:07:47
Jo
Why not? Why not? Why not? It's a great place. Plus, you know.
00:07:49
Charlie
Oh yeah, be amazing, yeah.
00:07:50
Jo
It's weekend and you know, somewhere. So you you have the films, but ah ah oddly enough, we didn't meet because you're doing film. We kind of met and you're talking about your writing. So you went from writing to film or from acting to writing hot. What's your trajectory?
00:08:07
Charlie
Well, I've always, i mean, I've always been creative. I mean, I started off actually as a, well, when I was younger, I used to write short stories.
00:08:10
Jo
Right.
00:08:13
Charlie
I used to write poetry. i was actually in a signed girl rock band.
00:08:15
Jo
Right.
00:08:17
Charlie
Yeah, i was in a girl rock band called Suffragettes. So that's kind of where my career started in music, actually.
00:08:20
Jo
Really? Cool. Nice. Yeah.
00:08:23
Charlie
And then after that, I continued writing and then I started writing for magazines. So I write for Haunted Magazine. I'm brand ambassador and I used to write for music magazines.
00:08:31
Jo
cool
00:08:34
Charlie
And as I said, I sort dabbled in acting in the past, but sort of not fully got into it because my music career took off and and then the writing.
00:08:34
Jo
nice
00:08:40
Jo
yeah
00:08:41
Charlie
But now I just write for all sorts of people and things and, you know, in the horror industry and the paranormal world as well.
00:08:48
Jo
Yeah, it's so it sounds like an artist life journey, right? You start out always in the art somehow, either the writing or performing, which do you like?
00:08:53
Charlie
Yeah.
00:08:57
Charlie
Yeah.
00:08:58
Jo
Which calls you more? Do you miss the performance part of it? Or do you
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00:09:02
Jo
just like i just want to behind this computer screen? I guess now he's be a typewriter, but this behind the screen typing some stuff out what calls you more?
00:09:06
Charlie
Yeah. yeah Well, you know, when I was younger, I lived and breathed music. Music was my thing.
00:09:15
Jo
Right?
00:09:16
Charlie
I didn't do anything other than music. And then when I got my record deal, you know, that was it, traveling and and doing. Yeah.
00:09:23
Jo
Right. Yeah.
00:09:23
Charlie
And I think when that kind of finished, i sort of thought, you know, I need some other creative outlet. I've got to find something. But because I'd already touched upon the writing in the past when I did some things as the music magazines and the short stories that I did, I kind of picked up on that.
00:09:36
Jo
right
00:09:38
Charlie
And then because sort of linking that with my my paranormal life, because I'm actually, I'm a medium as well.
00:09:43
Jo
yeah
00:09:44
Charlie
And and I've always had, uh, you know, spirit experiences since I was about three years old, actually, I then thought, you know what? I want to start writing about that more, the paranormal and the horror, like, you know, and I just pursued that and that's fully what I do now.
00:09:57
Jo
Right.
00:10:00
Charlie
So like love it.
00:10:01
Jo
That's amazing. It's amazing journey.
00:10:01
Charlie
Absolutely love it. Yeah.
00:10:03
Jo
It's and that's the thing. i've I've talked to mediums who, especially if they're at a young age, when they first had their experiences, people start to discredit You know, it's like they'll have a parent or they'll have some adult figure in their life just going, stop making stuff up.
00:10:12
Charlie
Yeah.
00:10:20
Jo
That doesn't happen. And then it's kind of kibosh it forever.
00:10:23
Charlie
Yeah, well, you know, the thing with me is my, as i mentioned, my dad earlier, I mean, he's a a druid. He's a mystic.
00:10:30
Jo
Right.
00:10:31
Charlie
You know, he used to be in Van Morrison and I didn't know him till I was older, but he was very much obviously into the same thing. And my mum is actually a medium as well.
00:10:38
Jo
Cool. Oh, so pass through.
00:10:40
Charlie
So. Yeah, so I was kind of brought up with that.
00:10:42
Jo
way Right.
00:10:43
Charlie
Like, I remember when I was really young, my mum had loads of books of The Unexplained, and I used to go through them and look at the ghost pictures and all the things. was oh, my God, how does that happen?
00:10:50
Jo
Yeah.
00:10:51
Charlie
What's that? And it just really sort of, I was never deterred from it, if you know what I mean, because my family were quite intuitive as well and into that kind of stuff.
00:10:55
Jo
Good.
00:11:01
Jo
ah ah That makes a lot of sense.
00:11:01
Charlie
So...
00:11:03
Jo
And I'm wondering sometimes when the adults who say like you you don't see anything or, you know, to the children sometimes, I wonder if it's because they had experiences too, like your mom. And then they're like, no, no, you didn't see nothing.
00:11:15
Jo
If it's like protecting the child, or maybe that's what told by their grandparents whatever.
00:11:16
Charlie
Yeah.
00:11:19
Jo
And you were more encouraged, which means you could grow your skills from early on then.
00:11:26
Charlie
Yeah, exactly. I mean, I had my first experience i so when I was about three or four and my mum and my stepdad heard me in another room like laughing hysterically.
00:11:32
Jo
Right.
00:11:36
Charlie
and She said when they went into the room I was literally like this rolling around on the floor laughing.
00:11:41
Jo
Yeah.
00:11:41
Charlie
She sort said, what are you doing? What's going on? And apparently i turned around and said, oh, it's the man, mummy. The man's tickling me. And they kind of both look because obviously it's just me in the room.
00:11:51
Jo
yeah
00:11:51
Charlie
And she said to me, well, you know, who is the man? Describe the man. Now, my mum sort of believes the guy that I described as her father that passed away when she was 13.
00:12:00
Jo
Oh, wow.
00:12:01
Charlie
So
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00:12:01
Charlie
therefore, I think because my mum, she kind of suppressed things. she She sort of didn't use too much of her mediumship until later in life.
00:12:04
Jo
Right.
00:12:08
Jo
Right. Right.
00:12:08
Charlie
But she never sort of discredited anything I said or anything I saw, because especially in my teen years, it was like my own horror show. It was it got really intense. Like, you know, I'd have night terrors.
00:12:19
Charlie
I'd wake up with like marks on my skin, on my arms or behind my ear one time from weird dreams that I'd had. And I don't know, it's really bizarre, really bizarre.
00:12:24
Jo
right So for your teen years, do you think that's because of the hormonal like shift as we go through puberty and going through our teens?
00:12:29
Charlie
Mm hmm.
00:12:37
Jo
Is that what increased the activity or.
00:12:40
Charlie
I mean, it may well have been, it could have been that. And I mean, the house that we lived in that time, there was something so strange about that house. I can't explain it, but so many things happened, like not just for me, for other people, sort of, you know, like my aunt one time saw a spirit lady float down the stairs.
00:12:57
Jo
yeah
00:12:58
Charlie
yeah And she's really s skeptical as well.
00:13:00
Charlie
And she was like, who came down the stairs last night? There was someone in a white gown and a white, and there wasn't there wasn't anybody.
00:13:05
Jo
right
00:13:06
Charlie
And then like another night I was my room and I used to see a lady standing over bookcase. and it was yeah it was I think there was something funny about that house as well. But as you said, maybe it did become more prominent for me because I already had those so senses and experiences and maybe being a teen going through you know that kind of thing made it even more.
00:13:19
Jo
maybe
00:13:26
Jo
Yeah, so it could be the combination of the location and just the unlocking of especially if you had it since you know, your first experience when you're three years old and going on up.
00:13:36
Charlie
Yeah.
00:13:36
Jo
It's kind of like weightlifting. and The more you do it, the stronger gonna get at it. And so you said your mom started coming back to it later on.
00:13:40
Charlie
Exactly, yeah.
00:13:45
Charlie
Mm-hmm.
00:13:46
Jo
Did you ever learn things from her?
00:13:50
Charlie
Well, it's funny because we used to, I mean, not so much at the minute because obviously I'm so busy with the the filming and the writing, but we did actually start going on stage together, giving readings.
00:13:56
Jo
Right.
00:14:00
Jo
was gonna wonder about that.
00:14:00
Charlie
We sort of link into each other. Yeah.
00:14:02
Jo
Okay.
00:14:03
Charlie
And we sense in different ways. Like for my mum, she gets more of a ah ah feeling and she'll just know something.
00:14:06
Jo
Yeah.
00:14:10
Charlie
But with me, I actually see, feel and hear it.
00:14:10
Jo
Oh,
00:14:13
Charlie
So it's quite funny the way we're able to connect and we can see the same things and talk to the same things.
00:14:14
Jo
wow. Right.
00:14:18
Charlie
But we actually in our own selves experience it differently, like when it comes through.
00:14:22
Jo
That's cool.
00:14:23
Charlie
So it's quite nice. Hmm.
00:14:25
Jo
That is very cool. It's one of those things where if you have the ability to share something with the parent and it and it's even deeper because it's more of a spiritual thing you're sharing too.
00:14:32
Charlie
Hmm.
00:14:37
Jo
iss like It's deeply rooted in that, right?
00:14:37
Charlie
Yeah.
00:14:39
Charlie
Yeah.
00:14:39
Jo
And it's the ability to speak your own language with them.
00:14:44
Charlie
Yeah.
00:14:44
Jo
with them Now, have you ever seen something that just made you nope out? Like, okay, we're good. Nope, we're good. Time to turn around.
00:14:52
Charlie
Oh, what's something that kind of something that freaked me out a bit.
00:14:53
Jo
Time to go. Right.
00:14:57
Charlie
I think probably, because funny enough, i was talking to someone about this the other day. i sort of, tune into anything, whether it's sort of, you know, positive, negative, good, bad, because I sort of for me, feel that everything just is, like even in our normal everyday lives, you experience both, don't you?
00:15:08
Jo
right
00:15:13
Jo
right
00:15:14
Charlie
It's not one or the other, but I do sometimes, you know, because it's part and parcel what I do, get the odd sort of thing where I'm like, o don't like it.
00:15:15
Jo
right
00:15:21
Charlie
And I think the last one was probably when I went to the Crumlin Road Jail, which is in Northern Ireland, and in Belfast.
00:15:27
Jo
Really?
00:15:29
Charlie
And I remember I went in there and that was intense for me, really intense.
00:15:34
Charlie
And from the minute I sort of walked into the foyer, I felt surrounded, absolutely surrounded. And I was like, oh, okay, okay, just just keep walking. And I sort of went through. And when we went into one of the one of the wings on the where there's an upper floor, ah kept i sensed like a male spirit that was walking back and forth like back and forth and he was really angry and it was horrible.
00:15:48
Jo
Right.
00:15:48
Jo
Oh.
00:15:55
Charlie
And I kept looking down. I'm thinking, don't make eye contact, don't look. And then
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00:15:59
Charlie
all of a sudden, the only way I can describe it is he stopped. And I was like, oh, my goodness. And he just looked and it was as though he threw all of his hate, his anger, his everything just shot down to me.
00:16:10
Jo
wow.
00:16:11
Charlie
And I sort of, I started getting heart palpitations. I like, goodness. And my mum sort of then was like, oh, something's happening. What are seeing? And I said, just just get me out. Please get me out. Get me out right now.
00:16:19
Jo
I'm seeing the exit sign.
00:16:20
Charlie
And I...
00:16:20
Jo
That's what i'm seeing right now.
00:16:21
Charlie
Yeah. And I had to, I mean, I was fine. Once I got kind of went out, came back in, it was, you know, I'm just used to it, I suppose.
00:16:24
Jo
Yeah.
00:16:27
Charlie
But that's probably the most sort of one that did freak me out a little bit. Yeah.
00:16:33
Jo
but this That's pretty interesting. And I always wondered... ah ah about this because sometimes I can see things like you just walking through and the spirits are where they leave, you know, you leave them, they're still there.
00:16:47
Charlie
Hmm.
00:16:47
Jo
And sometimes it's like a sponge, you leave the you leave the area, but something attaches with it.
00:16:54
Charlie
Yeah, I've always sort of thought about, because people always ask me about attachments and are you not afraid like if you go into haunted houses and you know because I do go into places where there's lots of known things and
00:16:54
Jo
You know?
00:17:00
Jo
Yeah.
00:17:06
Charlie
I think some of it is down to you know what people believe. and You know, like the theory of with a curse. If you really believe that curse or you really think that thing's going to take a hold of you or stay with you, then it will happen because you can make it manifest.
00:17:17
Jo
Yes.
00:17:20
Charlie
and I'm not saying they're not real, I'm not saying they are real because I don't know.
00:17:20
Jo
yeah
00:17:22
Charlie
I'm i'm exploring and and learning and researching like everyone else. but It's funny because had you or somebody asked me 10 years ago, do I fully believe that I am connecting with you know dead people, if that's what you want to call it, I would have said 100% absolutely.
00:17:37
Charlie
But you know what? After all these years of work of everything I've learned, everything i've everywhere I've gone to throughout the UK, I'm not sure what I think it is anymore. And i mean, that's still exciting, exploring it.
00:17:47
Jo
That's good. Right.
00:17:50
Charlie
But I'm sort of feeling a lot more on the quantum theory now, I think.
00:17:53
Jo
Yeah. It's healthy. You should always question, you know, once you, I know, is like but you always question things that can always develop and go on from there.
00:17:55
Charlie
Mm-hmm. Yeah, exactly.
00:18:02
Jo
That's a healthy way of looking at it. That's fascinating. It really is.
00:18:04
Charlie
And that's the excitement of it as well, I guess, is that even though we're all striving to find out something, but like you just said, at the end of the day, if we actually found out what it really is, then be like, oh, what do we do now?
00:18:06
Jo
Yeah.
00:18:13
Jo
Yeah, okay.
00:18:14
Charlie
Huh?
00:18:14
Jo
Yeah, okay.
00:18:14
Charlie
You know, is the excitement of it all.
00:18:15
Jo
We're going to learn how make lasagna now, I guess. i
00:18:17
Charlie
Yeah.
00:18:18
Jo
I discovered the afterlife, I guess. Oh, that was fine. That was good.
00:18:20
Charlie
Yeah. but
00:18:22
Jo
One down. So and are you ever thinking about writing your experiences into like a book or a travel show? Like, which is, you know, the jail in Belfast. you know, this is our experiences here and put a little package on it.
00:18:36
Charlie
Yeah, well, i mean I do write about a lot of my experiences through Haunted magazine. do write a lot of things with them about where I go and and and
00:18:40
Jo
Right.
00:18:45
Charlie
I have started to put together know a book. I have started to put chapters together and ideas. And and like you said, it's funny. I have been looking into maybe with some of my filming friends, so putting together some kind of like a mini a little show or something.
00:18:58
Jo
Yeah. Yeah.
00:18:59
Charlie
I'd really love to do that. I'd love to, especially Northern Ireland, because that's kind of my forte.
00:19:01
Jo
Yeah.
00:19:04
Charlie
Like there's so many unknown stories over there that I know a lot about and that I've been to and I've researched and I've experienced. And it would be amazing to do that.
00:19:12
Jo
That sounds so great. I'm actually writing down like i should go to Northern Ireland now. That's what I need to do That's a brilliant idea.
00:19:18
Charlie
That's exactly what Lee said. Yeah. Yeah.
00:19:20
Jo
You're like, oh it was really scary guy throwing hate at you. Awesome. can't wait. Hold on. Where's this one at? Belfast jail? Sure.
00:19:29
Charlie
Yeah.
00:19:29
Jo
Write a note down. But that's it's kind of like that's the community, right? Like, oh, that sounds was fascinating.
00:19:35
Charlie
yeah
00:19:36
Jo
It sounds as scary as all heck, but and sounds fascinating.
00:19:38
Charlie
the yeah
00:19:40
Jo
I'd love to experience this. So you've gone from writing short stories and poems to your music career, to some acting and behind the scenes and and the film creation and back to writing.
00:19:53
Charlie
her
00:19:53
Jo
And it's like the the encompassing it of it all. And even on stage as a medium, right?
00:19:59
Charlie
Yeah.
00:19:59
Jo
So you've done all this. And I was going to say, if you can give young Charlie a piece of advice and entertainment or just I won't really say they call it entertainment or spirituality matters, right?
00:20:12
Jo
ah What would you give young Charlie that advice? What advice would you give?
00:20:16
Charlie
i would say to young Charlie that she should just go for it and never be afraid.
00:20:21
Jo
There you go.
00:20:21
Charlie
She shouldn't have been afraid of so much and she should have definitely pursued the writing much sooner. She should have really done that and because she was good at it even back then and she loved it and she had the ideas but she was so kind of indecisive and she was like, oh i want to do this and that and do everything instead of kind of like grabbing one of them and going, yeah, you know, after the music.
00:20:30
Jo
Yeah.
00:20:40
Jo
yeah
00:20:43
Charlie
That's definitely what I'd say to her.
00:20:45
Jo
it's It's an amazing thing. and i think That's great advice for every young Charlie out there.
00:20:50
Charlie
Yeah.
00:20:51
Jo
Every young Charlie. and i believe that is the best advice give to your young selves. Really. is Don't be afraid.
00:20:57
Charlie
Yeah,
00:20:58
Jo
Just go for it Swing for the fences. app but
00:21:01
Charlie
because you never know what might happen.
00:21:02
Jo
What's the worst going to happen?
00:21:03
Charlie
Yeah.
00:21:03
Jo
yeah like oh you know Nothing happened.
00:21:05
Charlie
But you know what i' yeah do you know what I would say now as well, though?
00:21:08
Jo
Yeah.
00:21:08
Charlie
because I only literally got fully into filming, what, two years ago now. And what I've learned and what I've achieved just in the past year, because I've really sort of found where I wanted to be, like everything that's happened with the writing and filming has literally happened just from hard work, dedication, enjoyment.
00:21:17
Jo
Yeah.
00:21:25
Charlie
And I say to people, you know, i'm in my 40s now, so it's never too late, ever. If anyone's out, there you know, I always say that now, especially with what's happened recently. You know, even if you think, oh oh, I can't do anything now. Oh, my goodness, you can.
00:21:38
Charlie
You put your mind to something, you can do anything.
00:21:40
Jo
That's brilliant. I love it. And proof fact of this is actually your amazing career.
00:21:42
Charlie
Yeah.
00:21:46
Jo
and And if you are in HorrorCon UK, which is the 18th of May at 430, go pop on into the film event, Lake on the Cabin, get some prize going, going clappity-clap-claps, and judges' prizes will fall from the sky.
00:21:50
Charlie
Woo! Yeah.
00:21:58
Charlie
different
00:22:01
Jo
Or maybe not from the sky. They'll be throwing at you. You might catch them later on.
00:22:05
Charlie
but
00:22:05
Jo
But that's just an amazing time. Dang it. Now I want to be in Sheffield. I want to be all the places you're mentioning. Like, oh, I want to be to go to Belfast.
00:22:12
Charlie
Come along, come and join us. oh
00:22:14
Jo
Tempting. It's so tempting.
00:22:15
Charlie
We should do road trip.
00:22:15
Jo
anything
00:22:16
Charlie
Me, you and Lee. Let's head to Northern Ireland. Woo.
00:22:19
Jo
We'll cock off air when you say that. Why don't you mention that? Because dot, dot. Yeah, I'll tell you in a minute. But thanks, Charlie. It's been an amazing time.
00:22:30
Jo
i love learning about all your projects. And you have a fascinating life.
00:22:34
Charlie
Hmm.
00:22:34
Jo
And I just appreciate everything. And I can't wait to watch your new series that will be coming out one time. I want to watch this series. I'm manifest this.
00:22:44
Charlie
Yes.
00:22:44
Jo
We're manifesting this right here. And of course, I'm goingnna read your stuff.
00:22:46
Charlie
Thank you so much. yeah Thank you.
00:22:48
Charlie
It's been a pleasure. It's been great speaking to you. Hopefully we will chat again.
00:22:48
Jo
I love it.
00:22:52
Jo
Yeah, and people can find you.
00:22:52
Charlie
yeah
00:22:54
Jo
Where can they find you? Besides right here.
00:22:58
Charlie
yeah i mean, well, Haunted Magazine website and the Independent Horror Society and Facebook.
00:23:04
Jo
Facebook it is.
00:23:05
Charlie
Haunted Charlie Hall.
00:23:06
Jo
Haunted Charlie Hall. Well, thank very much for myself, Joe, and the rest of us.
00:23:12
Charlie
yeah
00:23:12
Jo
Just me again. Say thanks, everyone. Bye.
00:23:15
Charlie
Thank you. Bye.