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Everything Action Commentary: Raw Deal (1986)
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For the latest Everything Action Commentary, Zach and Chris go undercover with Arnold and watch 1986's Raw Deal, which turned 40 this month.
Arnold plays Mark Kaminski, a former FBI agent turned small-town sheriff. When an old friend, Harry Shannon (Darren McGavin), approaches him to help get revenge on the Chicago mob after his son is murdered at a safe house, Mark fakes his death and becomes Joseph P. Brenner, working his way up the ranks while trying to take apart the mob from the inside. Zach and Chris discuss Mark's explosive way of faking his death, Mark's love interest being a degenerate gambler, if this movie has the most driving action in an Arnold movie, the various Chicago locations, and more.
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Transcript
Intro
Introduction and Film Overview
00:00:22
Zach Sheets
Hello and welcome to another Everything Action Commentary. It's a commentary for June 2026. I'm your host, Zach.
00:00:28
Chris Prime
I'm your co-host, Chris.
00:00:29
Zach Sheets
And this month we are celebrating the 40th anniversary of Raw Deal, the Arnold Classic. It came out June 6, 1986.
00:00:37
Zach Sheets
And definitely one of the ah underrated, deeper cuts of Arnold's filmography.
00:00:45
Chris Prime
it's It's like mush between heavy hitters that everyone's known for in the 80s. And this kind of sneaks in as a Arnold is actually not like an American.
Character Analysis: Arnold as a Sheriff
00:00:59
Chris Prime
person? like He's just sort of like... ah like He's a soldier or like some sort of enforcement person, but they really lean into him not being an American fully.
00:01:11
Zach Sheets
well and Well, he's supposed to be... He's a small-town sheriff in this movie.
00:01:15
Chris Prime
But like, it's a bizarre like, hey, you know Arnold from other things. We're not going to get into like why he doesn't sound like an average 80s American right now.
00:01:26
Zach Sheets
Mm-hmm.
00:01:27
Chris Prime
You know, like, they lean into it, but, like, just enough where it's like, you get it, right?
00:01:31
Zach Sheets
Yeah, sandwiched between Commando and Predator, like, the two two of the heaviest-hitting arm movies. It's like, oh, by the way, here's this other one.
00:01:39
Chris Prime
Yeah, and but Commando was interesting because because, like, it's, like, a coalition of, like, Commando guys that were all, like, not American, even though they were. like
00:01:49
Zach Sheets
Or
00:01:50
Chris Prime
But, like, and then Predator was just the best of the U.S. s Rangers or Marines?
00:01:57
Zach Sheets
something, yeah. They were like...
00:01:58
Chris Prime
some black ops unit. But here just like, he's just a humble cop.
00:02:04
Zach Sheets
Who used to be an FBI agent?
00:02:07
Chris Prime
Which, again, like, it's that pre-kindergarten cop ah attitude. So as someone who grew up watching kinder carter Kindergarten Cop first and then kind of going back into his other like cop movies, it's bizarre. It's like leading up to that where he did the kid version of this.
00:02:28
Chris Prime
Where like going undercover and then...
00:02:29
Zach Sheets
Yeah, this this is like the the opening thing on Cop. Like, this is like the entire like ro is like the entire movie of that.
00:02:36
Chris Prime
Yeah. So that's why I'm like, oh, if you watch this out of order, it's weird.
Watching 'Raw Deal': Availability and Alternatives
00:02:40
Chris Prime
Actually, no matter what order you watch it in, at some point where this could have been a whole series of movies where every other movie is like a different type of like genre action where he is a sheriff in this one.
00:02:53
Chris Prime
And then later he gets recruited by the FBI and is doing this. And then the other one, it's it's like now he's a kindergarten cop. Like it could have worked. It could have been this.
00:03:01
Zach Sheets
mark The Mark Kaminsky movies.
00:03:03
Chris Prime
Yeah, yeah, it could have worked, but no one had that foresight.
00:03:09
Zach Sheets
But yeah, we are we're watching it on ah Prime Video. um So if you if it's on there, it hopefully it's on there. We're we're recording this a little earlier than we normally would. um But hopefully it's still on there.
00:03:19
Zach Sheets
If it's not, just you'll find it somewhere else. grab a ah Yeah, if I had to be, you'll grab like a physical copy of it.
00:03:21
Chris Prime
Probably on Tubi.
00:03:25
Zach Sheets
But we are plus a zero right before ah the Studio Canal logo comes up. So me second and pause your copy.
00:03:35
Chris Prime
If you've got a DVD, just ah watch that DVD intro, probably.
00:03:41
Zach Sheets
All right. So we're going to get started. Five, four, three, two, one, play.
80s Film Transportation Scenes
00:03:56
Chris Prime
Okay, in our version, our Studio Canal logo is... so much.
00:04:05
Zach Sheets
yeah I don't remember Studio Canal having so much like background noise.
00:04:08
Chris Prime
like a Spy Kids movie about to start there.
00:04:13
Chris Prime
See, now this is a proper eighty s logo.
00:04:18
Zach Sheets
Yeah, do you know DiLaurento's?
00:04:21
Chris Prime
Like 2006?
00:04:28
Chris Prime
Amtrak, the movie.
00:04:32
Zach Sheets
Arnold is a train conductor.
00:04:35
Chris Prime
The train was run on time.
00:04:37
Zach Sheets
It's a taking of Palomone 2-3 with Arnold.
00:04:41
Chris Prime
This is the raw deal.
00:04:55
Zach Sheets
this this is exactly what you want from an action movie score.
00:05:00
Zach Sheets
Guitars, since... Mm-hmm.
00:05:01
Chris Prime
Speedboats. Speedboats were really big in the 80s. But by today's economy, we cannot afford the gas of a speedboat.
00:05:14
Chris Prime
Also, this is like showing you all sorts of transportation, how how to get to New York. They
00:05:21
Zach Sheets
We have all the vehicles.
00:05:23
Chris Prime
have cars, helicopters, jet boats, Amtrak. it's like all we need is an MTA bus, and we completed the, like, come to New York. do Do you remember in the ninety s early 2000s, like, come to New York to, like, see the sights and all that? Like, the big push for tourism?
00:05:42
Zach Sheets
like Time Zero was cleaned up and it was all it was like Disney Times Square now.
00:05:45
Chris Prime
Yep, yep. It was the, like, hey, we got rid of, like, a lot of corruption and, like, graffiti. But then it's, like, go to the Anirondacks, and then just... be one of those Lake George, like, hogs.
00:05:57
Zach Sheets
so So this Hitman he took all that transportation to get to where he was going. Like, he took the helicopter the speedboat and everything.
00:06:07
Chris Prime
Yeah. He took the Amtrak to the helicopter to the car.
00:06:10
Zach Sheets
To really hide his tracks, I guess.
00:06:16
Chris Prime
this doesn't look like a hit squad. This looks like like an insurance salesman-like meeting.
00:06:32
Chris Prime
I also like how um the costume designer was just like, I want everything out of a Sears catalog.
00:06:37
Zach Sheets
you know
00:06:37
Chris Prime
we're We're not going for bulletproof food vests or any kind of tactical gear. We can't afford that.
00:06:45
Chris Prime
We want like 1985 Falls Men Collection.
00:07:03
Zach Sheets
Good morning.
00:07:04
Chris Prime
Joe Bob Baker.
00:07:39
Chris Prime
Yeah, this is the best Kindergarten Cop prequel I've seen.
00:07:41
Zach Sheets
ye
00:08:00
Zach Sheets
Yes.
00:08:01
Chris Prime
That's pretty awesome and cruel 80s one-liner. Even the bad guys get one-liners? Awesome.
00:08:05
Zach Sheets
Yeah. Mm-hmm.
00:08:08
Chris Prime
Again, super underrated.
00:08:38
Chris Prime
First Christmas was terrible, and now...
00:08:39
Zach Sheets
yeah
00:08:41
Chris Prime
Now this agent's dead.
00:08:43
Zach Sheets
They killed my boy, Ralphie.
00:08:50
Chris Prime
Yeah, you gotta be pulled off the case if you get, like, that emotional, and then...
00:08:54
Zach Sheets
You're too close to it.
00:08:54
Chris Prime
That's like... Yeah, you're too close.
00:09:01
Chris Prime
Anyway, forget that part of the movie.
00:09:02
Zach Sheets
you did Meanwhile, Dukes of Hazzard...
00:09:20
Zach Sheets
This
Common 80s Movie Tropes
00:09:20
Zach Sheets
is my favorite song. i am such a country fan.
00:09:24
Chris Prime
That was the sheriff getting cut off by traffic.
00:09:32
Chris Prime
Okay, so... Is this movie connected to Last Stand?
00:09:38
Zach Sheets
like the continuation of you staying town.
00:09:41
Chris Prime
Because I'm, like, realizing, I'm like, wait a minute. it This actually could work.
00:09:48
Zach Sheets
You know what's what's funny too is like I think the movie Rad came out the same year, in 1986, and it also had like an opening where it either goes through a logging like like storage yard.
00:10:00
Chris Prime
Going in a construction site, a logging company, maybe even a quarry, is like a very big 80s and early 90s trope. Like, it's just to show you how, like, the town just sort of gets terrorized by these locals.
00:10:17
Zach Sheets
else to do, might as well just drive through the quarry. like the Or the logging camp.
00:10:22
Chris Prime
I mean, who are they gonna call it? The police? The police is there!
00:10:42
Chris Prime
Like, I get that in whatever so like county they're in the the rules are super loose. But, like, you gotta to have, like, a town meeting later. It's like, hey, I got a question for, like, what's going on in our town.
00:10:58
Chris Prime
Or, like, they're just driving through, like, family-owned land. So it's like, oh, no, we're all related.
Arnold's Driving Scenes in 'Raw Deal'
00:11:22
Chris Prime
You know, I've never seen Arnold do this much driving.
00:11:25
Zach Sheets
Mm-hmm.
00:11:28
Chris Prime
That's a big thing about this movie, too. It's like one of his like most ah like him in a car, like doing more car stunts.
00:11:39
Zach Sheets
i mean, he was driving a Terminator, but it was just that like at that one seed.
00:11:41
Chris Prime
One scene and he rides a bike. And then even then, it's like him just going straight. This one, he was driving through like stuff, you know?
00:12:49
Zach Sheets
and For all those upre crimes, he i'm gonna i was almost blew him up.
00:12:50
Chris Prime
Is this also- Yeah, almost destroyed, like, everything.
00:12:56
Zach Sheets
Well, didn't he have like a he like a like a police bike, didn't he? was it just like... It was like he had police logos on it or something. So he stole a cop uniform and a bike.
00:13:06
Chris Prime
I don't know that was like the same like whatever design. I think he made it look like a police bike because it's just too thin of a frame, I think.
00:13:13
Zach Sheets
Mm-hmm.
00:13:24
Chris Prime
What did I say about Wagner in the morning?
00:14:38
Chris Prime
As like the brawny man, like,
00:14:54
Zach Sheets
she like She made like the frosting too? that pan is like...
00:14:59
Zach Sheets
She buy store-bought frosting?
00:15:02
Chris Prime
I guess.
00:15:04
Zach Sheets
Some effort.
00:15:04
Chris Prime
You don't really need to bake frosting. but You don't cook frosting. You combine it all as like dry ingredients and then add cream or dairy or You know, like
00:15:28
Zach Sheets
there's There's the big line in the movie.
00:15:29
Chris Prime
yeah yeah But like, it's such a toned down line compared to like the murder opening that we saw in the beginning that like it was like a PG line.
00:15:36
Zach Sheets
Witness this. Well,
00:15:40
Chris Prime
I mean, not really p PG, PG-13 ish, because it's the 80s where PG-13, no one really knew what that meant.
00:15:51
Zach Sheets
well he says I'll be back at some point, too, I believe. so but That's like is like every movie catchphrase.
00:15:57
Chris Prime
Yeah.
00:16:00
Chris Prime
I hate my nice life. You know, it's like, it's not like he lives in a shack.
00:16:06
Zach Sheets
Yeah, they're not like like ah like ah ah a farmhouse or something.
00:16:06
Chris Prime
yeah
00:16:10
Chris Prime
And he's not disgraced. Like, all he did was get, like, probably some problem like bad charges on his record, and they were like, okay, well, we need a clean house. Like, you just need to go, like, hide.
00:16:54
Zach Sheets
I'm outside your house.
00:16:57
Chris Prime
I'm also thinking taking the job for the FBI isn't going to fix his like wife's drinking problem.
00:17:03
Zach Sheets
No.
00:17:04
Chris Prime
like If anything, it's going to make it worse. You bring her to a big city where it's like, now you have all the access to everything.
00:17:09
Zach Sheets
Or you say, oh, i guess I have to leave for like how many months? Like you're by yourself now in this town you hate.
00:17:19
Chris Prime
I mean, just like they don't say what area this is. It's just sort of like a hometown. It's a nice town.
00:18:39
Zach Sheets
in the 70s the 80s.
00:18:42
Chris Prime
Yeah. It's like... They're trying to clean up. Like, if anything, think it should be the opposite now. Mm-hmm.
00:18:48
Zach Sheets
it was like the Dirty Harry era. It's like... Yeah.
00:18:52
Chris Prime
They said, like, five years ago, it like, 81?
00:18:55
Zach Sheets
Yeah.
00:19:09
Chris Prime
don't understand how this court has, like... TV show quality zoom ins and all this like how are they filming this
00:19:13
Zach Sheets
yeah
00:19:20
Zach Sheets
it's like ah It's like a hearing. it's like like a Is it like a trial? Because it's like a tribunal or something.
00:19:25
Chris Prime
yeah I think it's a tribunal he's not standing in front of like a yeah yeah
00:19:28
Zach Sheets
A judge. It's more like a congressional hearing or something.
00:19:43
Chris Prime
Reganomics.
00:19:45
Chris Prime
I'm doing trickle-down Reganomics, where basically I'm spending a lot of money buying property. Mm-hmm.
00:19:51
Zach Sheets
This Baxter guy is just jealous of all their houses.
00:20:02
Chris Prime
Ooh, that was ADRN. Like, you could hear some lines just sort of sound quality dip.
00:20:43
Zach Sheets
and seen.
00:20:44
Chris Prime
Yeah, that that what? And it's like it's still in the same scene.
00:20:48
Zach Sheets
let's Let's move to another room. i don't like this room anymore.
00:20:55
Chris Prime
Like, that should have transitioned into a whole new location, not just, like, the other side of the room. Yeah, that was, like, a stage play.
00:21:00
Zach Sheets
Let's walk over here.
00:21:10
Zach Sheets
this is a completely illegal rogue operation.
00:21:16
Chris Prime
That's 70 grand by today's standards.
00:21:36
Chris Prime
like how this in this universe, Dirty Harry is such a like big pop culture thing.
00:21:41
Zach Sheets
Mm-hmm.
00:21:43
Chris Prime
Because I think like the Deadpool came out two years before this?
00:22:07
Chris Prime
Yeah, more than pass. Like, what are in your off time?
00:22:11
Zach Sheets
Lifting logs.
00:22:12
Chris Prime
Well, mean, like, during this era, there's a bodybuilder named Ronnie Coleman who, like, is also like a... He was a cop. And then during his off time, he would train like a madman. And then he was a professional bodybuilder. So it's like... Can you imagine this is just like, oh, no, this is also the story of this guy who, like... It's like a crazy... heat Oh, like, years later, we find out that Ronnie Coleman also...
00:22:36
Chris Prime
Infiltrated like an Italian mob and like did all this.
00:22:39
Zach Sheets
Mm-hmm.
00:22:40
Chris Prime
It's like, wait, this is based on a true story.
00:23:11
Chris Prime
Is Arnold about to commit like a biohazard over here? Like he's gonna burn... waste?
00:23:26
Zach Sheets
I think it's like yeah this like is like fake my death thing.
Faking Death Scene: Economic Impact
00:23:29
Zach Sheets
He's doing like almost over the top like...
00:23:34
Chris Prime
He could have just pushed his car into like a lake or something.
00:23:34
Zach Sheets
I'm gonna blow up
00:23:39
Chris Prime
Or exploded his jeep, where he almost blew up that biker.
00:23:40
Zach Sheets
up... Yeah. Yeah.
00:23:44
Chris Prime
Be like, that biker got revenge.
00:23:48
Chris Prime
and Instead, he's just like destroying this factory.
00:23:50
Zach Sheets
um'm I'm gonna blow the Talon's main source of income.
00:23:53
Chris Prime
Yeah, it's like lumber and oil.
00:24:12
Chris Prime
So did did he hate yeah did he hate the town?
00:24:12
Zach Sheets
They'll be fine. Yep. Yep.
00:24:16
Chris Prime
Because, like, that's like an economic problem that he just set off.
00:24:34
Chris Prime
Also, did he even tell his wife what was happening?
00:24:36
Zach Sheets
not. He's just its like, I'm out here.
00:24:40
Chris Prime
He just left her like more cake ingredients and bourbon.
00:25:31
Chris Prime
He looks the same. Like, he it didn't transform.
00:25:32
Zach Sheets
yeah yeah Alright, let me practice my Italian accent. Spaghetti. Ravioli.
00:25:43
Zach Sheets
Gabagool.
00:25:46
Chris Prime
so, like, I play a lot of craps. This is chaos that controls, like, every bet.
00:25:49
Zach Sheets
Yep.
00:25:52
Chris Prime
Because I have no idea, like, no one has any idea...
00:25:55
Zach Sheets
Who's shooting or what's better?
00:25:56
Chris Prime
Well, no, there's no marker, but there's also like no one, no one knows that that was their stack of money. So it's like.
00:26:02
Zach Sheets
Yeah, it's ah it's just it's it's like dollars across like five different spaces. like
00:26:06
Chris Prime
hu
00:26:10
Chris Prime
And like other kind of street craps is different. It's it's just like you hold in in front of you and you hit against a wall. This is weird.
00:26:34
Zach Sheets
Magnets, how do they work?
00:26:44
Chris Prime
I'll say, who knew this illegal gambling den would be fixed?
00:26:53
Zach Sheets
This is Arnold literally like five minutes into being undercover, just like destroying an entire bar.
Undercover in Chicago: Polish Connections
00:27:00
Chris Prime
like Aren't you Kaminsky? No.
00:27:08
Chris Prime
Oh, Chicago. So fun.
00:27:39
Chris Prime
Okay, bye bye.
00:28:00
Chris Prime
he gonna blow this place up too?
00:28:03
Zach Sheets
place he just blows it up and it faces his own death too like well that that identity is dead now i'm gonna make a new one
00:28:30
Chris Prime
Why were those people, like, gathering, like, right by the exit? They're just like, let's be inconvenient.
00:28:36
Zach Sheets
Where are going next, gang, after the illegal gambling den?
00:28:40
Chris Prime
Yeah.
00:28:48
Chris Prime
Oh, poor Polish restaurant. Because it's the old Warsaw restaurant, so...
00:28:54
Zach Sheets
Yep. hu
00:28:55
Chris Prime
It's funny that, like... I guess like he's also playing like a Polish guy. His name's Kaminsky. Right,
00:29:02
Zach Sheets
Well, his real name's Kaminsky.
00:29:04
Chris Prime
right. But like that's his last name. So he's a Polish cop, apparently.
00:29:06
Zach Sheets
Yeah.
00:29:09
Chris Prime
like it's Someone who's Polish of descent. And then he goes to another Polish dive in Chicago to destroy this business.
00:29:26
Chris Prime
See, this he's doing that. It's doing that trope where he's wearing the same outfits from the headshot. In that black and white photo.
00:29:34
Zach Sheets
Yeah.
00:30:19
Chris Prime
Pulling a Godfather.
00:30:30
Zach Sheets
The Oxide Boys Club!
00:30:32
Chris Prime
Yeah, they're the most hardcore boys club.
00:30:35
Zach Sheets
Stay away from the YMCA!
00:31:09
Zach Sheets
Preferably someone Austrian and giant.
00:31:15
Chris Prime
Also, like, did- Was the plan just one drive-by and that's it? Like, no...
00:31:19
Zach Sheets
Yep. don't don't Don't sit there. like don like
00:31:22
Chris Prime
Don't confirm the kill? Like, they outgunned them and and everything. They had those elements surprise, and they're just like, we're good.
00:31:27
Zach Sheets
They could just yeah park the bus there just like unload on them. like Drive by and hope you get them.
00:32:24
Chris Prime
and It is so weird to see Arnold in like what looks like a car salesman suit.
00:32:27
Zach Sheets
Suits? Yup. Yup.
00:32:32
Chris Prime
Do think that fashion would ever come back? That like muted brown tones?
00:32:36
Zach Sheets
The browns, yeah.
00:32:37
Chris Prime
Yeah.
00:32:49
Zach Sheets
like the parade graveyard. Like what is this place?
00:33:39
Chris Prime
Ah, Chicago. Just the city of casinos.
00:33:45
Chris Prime
Also, is this the same set from, uh...
00:33:51
Chris Prime
What's the Kurt Russell and Special Salone one?
00:33:54
Zach Sheets
Oh, Tango and Cash?
00:33:55
Chris Prime
Yeah, I feel like this is the, like, same building as Tanko and Cash, the final, like, showdown.
00:33:57
Zach Sheets
m
00:33:59
Chris Prime
Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.
00:34:01
Zach Sheets
Like Jack Palance's house?
00:34:18
Zach Sheets
it our time Is this like his Bond moment? Of like...
00:34:21
Chris Prime
feels like it, right? Like, you could sell the element.
00:34:22
Zach Sheets
I've got to be Chase Bond.
00:34:24
Chris Prime
Like, you could see later that James Cameron saw this and was like, oh man, I gotta make a a movie called True Lies, where he's basically this guy.
00:35:42
Chris Prime
This is Max, Max Fratelli.
00:35:44
Zach Sheets
um
00:36:33
Chris Prime
Wait, how did they find him again? Because besides showing up to their this like establishment, it's not like he wrote his name in that place and was like, call me. my And they figured it was the same guy because they have footage from the incident?
00:36:43
Zach Sheets
No, he figured out there where they are, then he went there.
00:36:52
Chris Prime
Like the rival gang told them about this?
00:36:55
Zach Sheets
Oh, how they knew about like that it was him that was doing everything?
00:36:57
Chris Prime
Yeah, because he robbed the girl, Lomancy's girl, and then...
00:36:59
Zach Sheets
Yeah. Mm-hmm.
00:37:03
Chris Prime
That's why Lemanski is like, oh, this guy is terrorizing me, but I guess everyone knows from that.
00:37:11
Zach Sheets
I mean, he's a very distinctive person, so...
00:37:13
Chris Prime
True, true.
00:37:48
Chris Prime
You just cash out. Just just leave.
00:37:49
Zach Sheets
Yep.
00:37:50
Chris Prime
You don't need to gamble with that, lady. You don't seem like you're a good gambler.
00:37:56
Zach Sheets
What value those chips? No one else has black chips. like what
00:38:03
Zach Sheets
These are Oreos.
00:38:04
Chris Prime
He's
00:38:08
Chris Prime
he like did he blow 25 grand from
00:38:11
Zach Sheets
That's that's funny.
00:38:12
Chris Prime
but director like
00:38:14
Zach Sheets
Harry, i need more money. you spent $25,000 already?
00:38:18
Chris Prime
I gave it to some woman who was losing gambling.
00:38:22
Zach Sheets
she part of the is is she part of the crew? It's like, I don't know.
00:38:39
Chris Prime
Ah, Crime Alley.
00:38:41
Zach Sheets
like with ankle deep water.
00:38:49
Chris Prime
So I've been through a few alleys in Chicago, like because they still have like their structure is still like this tight.
00:38:52
Zach Sheets
Mm-hmm.
00:38:56
Chris Prime
There's a few bars and speakeasies now that like they kind of lean into the aesthetic where it's like crime used to happen here. Like you want a drink?
00:39:09
Chris Prime
Like nowadays, this would have been like a hipster bar with like this much cardboard out there is like an aesthetic. And a dirty mattress. Man, this alley's got everything.
00:40:10
Chris Prime
What's with this quality angle? Why did it look like CG?
00:40:20
Chris Prime
He is just blowing past this 25 grand.
00:40:23
Zach Sheets
Just living life, just living large.
00:40:26
Chris Prime
Chicago wasn't cheap to stay in, like, so for him to rent, like, a furnished apartment.
00:40:33
Zach Sheets
like carrie It's like, you're killing me, Kaminsky. You can't just stay in a dive, like a shitty hotel.
00:40:50
Chris Prime
So we were gonna find out what happened to Arnold's wife.
00:40:56
Chris Prime
Is this her? This movie has too many blonde women.
00:41:15
Chris Prime
I mean, this is her. She, uh, she needs to go back to baking. I feel like... She's not baking, she's mugging people.
00:41:25
Zach Sheets
I think she's just like a random FBI agent or something or
00:41:34
Chris Prime
Well, you see, the problem is that, like, no one in this movie has uniforms.
00:41:37
Zach Sheets
know
00:41:43
Chris Prime
So I can't tell who's the bad guy or good guy or, like, who's on whose team.
00:41:52
Zach Sheets
FBI in the 80s.
00:42:11
Chris Prime
Also, that's not US dollars. Like, what money was that?
00:42:15
Zach Sheets
I couldn't tell who it was on ah that money, but it was like not a president.
00:42:20
Chris Prime
And it had, like, too much, like, border art around the the bills that I'm like, that's, they're what they gonna get charged for? Like, Monopoly money? Like, they're printing fake money.
00:42:30
Zach Sheets
Was that like the, like a paper equivalent of like, what was it? Cougarans?
00:42:35
Zach Sheets
Like this money's worth, this money's worth two, two American dollars each.
00:43:08
Chris Prime
Ah, rich guy meals.
00:43:09
Zach Sheets
m
00:43:11
Chris Prime
It's just, it doesn't look filling. It's just like, it always looks like something off a charcuterie board. It doesn't, you know, like, is that a glass of milk too?
00:43:19
Zach Sheets
yeahp
00:43:35
Chris Prime
yeah always appreciate an evil, rich businessman that takes care of his health. Like, you know, it's...
00:43:39
Zach Sheets
do
00:43:40
Chris Prime
You don't really see that too often. It's like the rich... The evil guy also loves, like, hard drugs.
00:43:45
Zach Sheets
but like his vi his vitamin regimen
00:43:47
Chris Prime
Yeah, and he's eating, like, a balanced diet for a rich guy. Like, who's to look fit for who?
00:43:56
Chris Prime
See? These guys? Alcohol? It's probably, like, 11 a.m. You know, like...
00:44:14
Chris Prime
This feels like a studio, right? this Like, I could see the ceiling in it. I think I could see, like...
00:44:19
Zach Sheets
ah well The walls aren't high enough.
00:44:21
Chris Prime
Yeah.
00:44:21
Zach Sheets
It's like the lights in the background there.
00:44:23
Chris Prime
it it It gives such a big open gap that I'm like, this is like a TV show set.
00:44:49
Chris Prime
Who is this actress?
00:45:00
Zach Sheets
Catherine Herald.
00:45:06
Chris Prime
I feel like I've seen her in one other, um like, one more other big thing.
00:45:11
Zach Sheets
She's on a Larry Sanders show.
00:45:14
Chris Prime
Okay.
00:45:17
Chris Prime
Well, it's the 90s. I get it.
Arnold's Undercover Mission
00:45:39
Chris Prime
She became a marriage license, like like a family and marriage counselor.
00:45:43
Zach Sheets
Therapist, yeah.
00:45:43
Chris Prime
Yeah.
00:45:44
Zach Sheets
Mm-hmm.
00:45:44
Chris Prime
Which is funny, because this is like a movie where Arnold definitely needed that with his wife.
00:45:50
Zach Sheets
yup
00:46:22
Chris Prime
Is this part of his mission or he just wanted to get drunk with like a bad gambler?
00:46:29
Zach Sheets
this This is vital to my mission.
00:46:58
Chris Prime
I like your smile, 80s woman.
00:47:17
Zach Sheets
are such a lightweight.
00:48:20
Chris Prime
Wow, she gained money and then lost, like, and then owes money.
00:48:24
Zach Sheets
still she's still yeah She still owes money.
00:49:36
Chris Prime
like how the boss of this operation has to make, like, phishing scam calls himself.
00:49:42
Zach Sheets
Yeah. Mm-hmm.
00:49:43
Chris Prime
He's, like, a very wealthy businessman already, like, in a mogul, and he's just, like, going around trying to get, like, key information. Shouldn't this guy be doing it
00:50:18
Zach Sheets
is Is King still in Chicago, Chris?
00:50:20
Chris Prime
I don't know. I don't know where this is exactly.
00:50:25
Zach Sheets
So you Burger King.
00:50:45
Zach Sheets
You would make a drinking game if like every time Arnold has a c cigar in this movie.
00:50:49
Chris Prime
Anytime anyone smokes.
00:50:51
Zach Sheets
Well, this this is like the third third or fourth time Arnold smoked a cigar in this movie.
00:50:55
Chris Prime
mean
00:50:59
Zach Sheets
That was in his contract. is like, I need to smoke like a dozen cigars in this movie.
00:51:03
Chris Prime
Also, does anyone say raw deal? Because
00:51:07
Zach Sheets
Yeah, what is the raw deal?
00:51:11
Chris Prime
it seems like Arnold has like a really good deal for him to get back in the bureau.
00:51:20
Chris Prime
Like, the mobsters have the raw deal, because they thought they would get, like, a good hitman, and then turns out they hired undercover FBI agent, like a freelance FBI agent.
00:51:32
Zach Sheets
I guess, like, was the Raw deal, like, Arnold's, like, what caused him to to quit the FBI? Yeah.
00:51:38
Chris Prime
I mean, would be cool if they said that, but we didn't really get that.
00:51:41
Zach Sheets
like if Like if Darren McGavin said like, hey kid, you got a raw deal when you left the FBI, but I got a
00:51:46
Chris Prime
Yeah, that would have been cool.
00:52:32
Chris Prime
Why are they extorting a drag club? Like, it of all the places?
00:52:43
Chris Prime
Like, Leminski seems like, alright, well, are you a bar? Well, every bar pays, like, a protection fee.
00:52:47
Zach Sheets
Mm-hmm.
00:52:50
Chris Prime
And this place is, like, it's popular.
00:53:14
Chris Prime
Ah, Leminski's day off.
00:53:59
Chris Prime
The main man couldn't, like, get dropped off at the front? He had walk, like, blocks away?
00:54:02
Zach Sheets
here's
00:54:12
Chris Prime
is weird for, like, a party.
00:54:16
Zach Sheets
like um Like, yeah, your girl having like a photo shoot.
00:55:10
Chris Prime
It'd funny if he's just also doing another like prank call.
00:55:16
Zach Sheets
It's the cable company. You weren't there. or we were there today. and You weren't there.
00:55:20
Chris Prime
We're gonna need your credit card number.
00:55:43
Chris Prime
She just owes $1,000. Like, it's not some crazy, crazy debt.
00:55:49
Zach Sheets
Or was it, i think it was i think it was just $1,000 paid off for like this job, but then he still owes like a ton of money to
00:55:58
Zach Sheets
This is like, Game of Thrones Arnold was like $1,000 for massive tab.
00:56:02
Chris Prime
Oh, okay. I thought this was only because of $1,000. I'm just like, take out a business loan or something. Like, t like don't work for the mob.
00:56:14
Chris Prime
Also, what's her day job? Like spying? i don't
00:56:23
Zach Sheets
She's a professional gambler. She's awful at it.
00:56:25
Chris Prime
yeah
00:57:34
Chris Prime
what they couldn't splurge on color.
00:57:52
Zach Sheets
Do they make it to my size?
00:58:08
Chris Prime
Wait, this was a random shop in the mall? Like, uh...
00:58:12
Zach Sheets
Yeah, it seems like it's like a high-end boutique or something.
00:58:15
Chris Prime
Yeah, this wouldn't be mall. Unless the 80s had mall shopping experiences like this, but... Man, we lost something in the ah decade.
00:58:22
Zach Sheets
The height of the balls, yeah. The sword has own fountain in it.
00:58:29
Chris Prime
Yeah, online shopping killed this.
00:59:23
Chris Prime
These guys come in with no weapons? They just like, we're gonna wrestle him?
00:59:27
Zach Sheets
They just just happen to be out like at this mall.
00:59:42
Chris Prime
like how there's a whole bunch of people in the in the like mall just walking by this.
00:59:45
Zach Sheets
Another fight in the clothing boutique. another fight in like the clothing botique
00:59:51
Chris Prime
Mm-hmm. They're just like, oh, that's nice.
00:59:54
Chris Prime
The 80s was different. Like, no one's taking their phones. No one's, like, gawking. They're just like, all right, well, we got stuff to do. Mm-hmm.
01:00:03
Zach Sheets
whats What's the meme? A bunch of people just living their lives. No phones.
01:00:07
Chris Prime
So, I don't know what's weird. People not taking photos or people just sort of ignoring it.
01:00:14
Zach Sheets
Just a typical Saturday afternoon in Chicago.
01:00:17
Chris Prime
This is what happens. You just get fights in clothing stores.
Explosive Solutions: A Recurring Theme
01:01:07
Zach Sheets
um it's like I have experience taking out the police station.
01:01:41
Chris Prime
See, this movie could have really skirted the line between an actual violent, darker movie, and then, like, a comedy action, right?
01:01:50
Zach Sheets
Mm-hmm.
01:01:50
Chris Prime
Because it starts violent, and then there's, like, pranks that they like this evil group is doing. Like, they they want to make, like, a fake bomb threat and not, like, a real bomb threat or something.
01:02:06
Chris Prime
Like, they're doing, like, a reverse heist.
01:02:08
Zach Sheets
Mm-hmm.
01:02:11
Zach Sheets
Also, I love that our own solution everything is just blowing up, too.
01:02:14
Chris Prime
Yeah, yeah.
01:02:18
Chris Prime
Have you thought about pouring gasoline and then blowing that up?
01:02:24
Chris Prime
Because he did that with that motorcycle cop. He did that with his own thing.
01:02:28
Zach Sheets
Mm-hmm.
01:02:29
Chris Prime
That should have been one of his other ones. It was like, just pour gasoline from the roof.
01:03:23
Chris Prime
That actually wasn't the plan. This is a rival snack company.
01:03:26
Zach Sheets
so pepsi
01:03:29
Chris Prime
No more coke in this police station.
01:03:36
Zach Sheets
Chicago's a Pepsi town.
01:03:41
Chris Prime
Why is the DA here? Also, why is um the DA from the federal level in Chicago when like they want to go back from New York?
01:03:56
Chris Prime
like Wouldn't this make sense if you went back to Chicago? Or to New York first?
01:04:01
Zach Sheets
I don't know. Is is he a DA or is he just like a, like another like FBI agent?
01:04:04
Chris Prime
Well, he's the federal prosecutor.
01:04:06
Zach Sheets
Yeah.
01:04:06
Chris Prime
prosecutor
01:04:06
Zach Sheets
Hmm.
01:04:07
Chris Prime
So it's like a federal prosecutor. It's like high up. So it's it's another type of DA, but like at a higher level. Federal DA, I guess.
01:04:24
Chris Prime
Or FA? Federal attorney?
01:05:43
Chris Prime
Burn.
01:05:44
Zach Sheets
Thank you.
01:06:18
Chris Prime
Dad jokes. It have funnier.
01:06:24
Zach Sheets
Arnold should be like, it's like, hi, hungry, I'm dead, or
01:06:30
Chris Prime
Yeah. I impress, I'm hungry. Like, that that's would have been the full dad joke. But, like, for someone who's in constant debt, I don't understand why she wants to live, like, this high life all the time.
01:06:45
Zach Sheets
She's like playing, like she's like this, like like, super successful, like glamorous, like gambler, but she's a horrible at it.
01:06:52
Chris Prime
Or like a ah socialite, but no one knows her.
01:06:54
Zach Sheets
Yeah.
01:06:55
Chris Prime
Only Max knows her.
01:06:56
Zach Sheets
Mm-hmm.
01:06:59
Chris Prime
So why does she keep going there?
01:07:43
Chris Prime
He's friendzoning her.
01:07:44
Zach Sheets
ye It's not you, it's me.
01:07:54
Zach Sheets
Wait, how your baking skills?
01:08:29
Chris Prime
Her dress robe was weird. Like, she's wearing lingerie, I guess?
01:08:34
Zach Sheets
and Yeah, under it, yeah.
01:08:40
Chris Prime
But it wasn't, like, a bold statement. She just took off, like, the shawl.
01:09:09
Chris Prime
Is this Arnold's other apartment? Like, he has the fake nice one, and then he has...
01:09:13
Zach Sheets
No, I think i think i this is like Darren McGavin's like like safe he stays there, or it's just like, it's the FBI safe house, yes.
01:09:13
Chris Prime
So
01:09:21
Chris Prime
Darren stays in this one?
01:09:31
Zach Sheets
that giant thing in the background is like the request its like the like answering machine that I'm supposed to like call and like give it updates to.
01:09:37
Chris Prime
oh okay.
01:09:55
Chris Prime
So that wife who was kind of mentally unstable is now like off the like rails, right?
01:10:00
Zach Sheets
ye her husband She thinks her husband blew up in a giant like oil finery explosion.
01:10:06
Chris Prime
A freak. Yeah. A freak oil refinery, which I don't know if they had a body plan or, you know,
01:10:13
Zach Sheets
There's no body. he just like, oh, he must got vaporized.
01:10:39
Chris Prime
Oh, it's weird. He is playing a guy named Joey.
01:10:48
Zach Sheets
Not Joseph, Joey. i like to have fun.
01:10:53
Chris Prime
I am from Brooklyn. Pizza.
01:10:57
Zach Sheets
i from Sicily.
01:11:45
Zach Sheets
that's That's a weird time frame, Bob. What was that? Not around number, like 20? Hey, it's Angel of Filthy Souls.
01:12:03
Chris Prime
He's one of the most Chicago guys. They don't make him like they used to.
01:12:05
Zach Sheets
Yeah.
01:12:08
Chris Prime
There's no like.
01:12:11
Chris Prime
Heavy. Older Chicago accent dude. In movies these days. If it is. It's like such a crazy parody. But like that guy legit just sounds like that.
01:12:19
Zach Sheets
Mm-hmm.
01:12:23
Chris Prime
Like he's not acting.
01:13:17
Zach Sheets
i don't do this like under on fake call I don't think they said where the bomb was. So it's just like... No one's suspicious of the SWAT teams. Oh, you guys know exactly where the bomb is?
01:13:27
Chris Prime
Yeah, just the report. Okay, cool. They just ran in.
01:13:48
Chris Prime
This is kind of different. Like, they're showing temple. It's not just a church, you know, crazy kind of, like, stereotypes or, like, went for something different.
01:13:59
Chris Prime
And it shows that like these villains also have like other hobbies. like Other things to do besides hang out offices.
01:14:06
Zach Sheets
Mm-hmm.
01:14:51
Chris Prime
So I do like that there's a lot of, like, B-plots happening, like, all together. It's like, this is what Arnold's up to, this is what the heist is up to
01:15:00
Zach Sheets
what's yeah It's interesting that they're not part of the heist. They're like, you guys do it. do other stuff.
01:15:08
Chris Prime
If anything, they would have shown what the, uh, the, like, other lady was up to, the gambler.
01:15:13
Zach Sheets
but
01:15:14
Chris Prime
She's just, like, gambling still, like, losing money.
01:15:52
Zach Sheets
Bullet resisted.
01:15:56
Chris Prime
Plot resistant.
01:16:12
Chris Prime
Who's the driver for the bad guys? They're doing a... Is it Max? Max is doing a good job.
01:16:23
Chris Prime
Usually the tough guy in any kind of like the evil henchman guy, he's good at like the fighting, but not the driving part. Like he relies on someone else for that.
01:16:59
Chris Prime
I've been here. I've been a Navy Pier.
01:17:05
Zach Sheets
This is like Chase goes like every single like landmark in Chicago.
01:17:07
Chris Prime
every like Yeah, it's just going to do like the Blues Brother, kind of like all these like historical sites.
01:17:12
Zach Sheets
Mhm.
01:17:32
Chris Prime
Are they just pulling up right next to each other?
01:17:35
Zach Sheets
It's like an old, like, but like a naval battle. It's like, like when the ships just like pulling back to each other and shot cannons.
01:17:42
Chris Prime
Mm-hmm. Just trade volleys.
01:20:16
Zach Sheets
like how they're trying to hide who it is, but I'll clearly know who it is.
01:20:19
Chris Prime
Yeah. Subutory only has a certain amount of actors, it's not like, surprise... waiting for this cue?
01:20:49
Chris Prime
Bum, bum, bum.
01:21:07
Zach Sheets
Not even any commentary about, like, you end up in one of these coffins. Why are they even at the coffin, like, store?
01:21:57
Chris Prime
This is ah just a friend kiss.
01:22:39
Chris Prime
You Max should be like, oh, I dated that girl or something. There's no like gloating or even kind of tension.
01:22:42
Zach Sheets
Mm-hmm.
01:22:45
Chris Prime
Like it's weird for them to work together.
01:24:05
Zach Sheets
It's doing it in broad daylight in front like where a funeral is happening.
01:24:09
Chris Prime
with like 30 witnesses.
01:24:11
Zach Sheets
Yep.
01:24:33
Zach Sheets
Oh.
01:24:40
Zach Sheets
the priest fall into the grave?
01:24:42
Chris Prime
I think he ducked.
01:25:09
Chris Prime
Are they? i don't know. In Chicago, seems like response times is bad.
01:25:25
Zach Sheets
catch what's like All right, I'll see you later, buddy. Bye.
01:25:33
Chris Prime
Yeah, there's no cell phones yet.
01:25:34
Zach Sheets
now
01:25:35
Chris Prime
Like, you have to get to a phone, like a payphone.
01:25:38
Zach Sheets
it's just like this like wacky scarred chase music.
01:25:41
Chris Prime
Yeah, you're right.
01:25:51
Chris Prime
you follow them?
01:26:04
Zach Sheets
Did Rod you a vet scar?
01:26:06
Chris Prime
ah
01:26:15
Chris Prime
Is this Chicago music? Did Ska come from Chicago?
01:26:33
Zach Sheets
to To do what I should have like two months ago.
01:27:01
Chris Prime
Okay, so, not to spoil much, but I feel like this is the outfit he should have wore in the beginning of the movie.
01:27:08
Zach Sheets
Yeah, this is the poster.
01:27:12
Chris Prime
And it's like, he doesn't look like a hitman. Like, again, it's the era where every hitman looked like an insurance salesman or like a businessman. like it It's weird that like he should have showed up to this. He probably would have got in earlier into the inner circle if he just looked like this.
01:27:30
Zach Sheets
Or if he had this whole arsenal, just go in and just like murder everybody. why
01:27:35
Chris Prime
Well, it's off the books, and it's like revenge mission.
01:27:37
Zach Sheets
Yeah.
01:27:40
Chris Prime
But I get it. Commando came out, so it's like, okay, we're going to have our own Commando moment.
01:27:48
Zach Sheets
He could have saved all that time of like trying to like infiltrate the mob and just go in with this arsenal weapons. just like
01:27:53
Chris Prime
Guns blazing.
01:27:54
Zach Sheets
Yeah.
01:27:55
Chris Prime
But was it Harry that decided to do more, like, evidence gathering?
01:28:01
Zach Sheets
Well, he doesn't want evidence. He wants them all dead. doesn't care about evidence.
01:28:04
Chris Prime
so So why were they doing all the recordings and all?
01:28:06
Zach Sheets
All the subterfuge, yeah. He's
01:28:11
Zach Sheets
like, I'm going to tear them apart!
01:28:14
Chris Prime
I guess he, like,
01:28:16
Zach Sheets
I guess i guess we the they need to find out who the mole was because they didn't know who the mole was.
01:28:21
Chris Prime
they still don't.
01:28:22
Zach Sheets
yeah they they don't know that it's a Baxter whatever his name is.
01:28:27
Chris Prime
But, like, it didn't matter. Also, like, Is this what got him fired the first time? Just walking with like an arsenal of weapons and then just going after that child murderer?
01:28:44
Zach Sheets
He just shows up on like an FBI at arrest with like 30 guns.
01:28:48
Chris Prime
A bag of guns? Yeah. Man, it's like the Spirit of Halloween Terminator outfit he's putting on.
01:28:57
Zach Sheets
Robot assassin.
01:29:00
Chris Prime
I think the thing is he doesn't put on glasses. It's like the one thing that he's not allowed to do in this outfit.
01:29:03
Zach Sheets
Mm-hmm.
01:29:06
Chris Prime
Just how like James Bond actors aren't allowed to wear like tux in other movies.
01:29:14
Chris Prime
It's like in their contract. It's like when you become Bond, you can't wear that.
01:29:25
Chris Prime
Or at least like in their like active years.
01:29:32
Zach Sheets
yeah what this is This is also very Tango and Cash. Like when they use like the the super tank to like drive into the quarry.
Climactic Quarry Battle
01:29:39
Chris Prime
Yep. That's what I'm saying. It's their response to a Tangon cache. Or like a pre-Tangon cache.
01:29:45
Zach Sheets
This came up way before Tango and Cash.
01:29:49
Chris Prime
It's also interesting that a Rolling Stones song that they're just playing here.
01:29:52
Zach Sheets
They blew like ah like half the budget on Rolling Stones.
01:29:55
Chris Prime
Mm-hmm. It's like, did anyone hear Satisfaction? is like Is that coming through like every speaker in this area?
01:30:08
Chris Prime
So... They're going to the quarry. i don't get... It's like... It's just the base of operation is this.
01:30:18
Zach Sheets
I guess. Because Petrovic has like his like skyscraper office.
01:30:32
Zach Sheets
this where his money is?
01:30:33
Chris Prime
Yeah, when that make sense?
01:30:34
Zach Sheets
Dummy gets thrown into chopper.
01:30:41
Zach Sheets
ah dumy get throw into a chopper
01:30:47
Chris Prime
What was he gonna do with that handgun from on top? Like, it's such a big difference.
01:30:54
Chris Prime
Also, I realized this movie has a lot of drive-by shooting.
01:30:57
Zach Sheets
Yes.
01:31:02
Chris Prime
Is that just a Chicago thing? They just love just, like, driving, like, shooting from their cars?
01:31:56
Chris Prime
My satisfaction!
01:31:58
Zach Sheets
but
01:32:03
Chris Prime
Also like that in this active quarry there are actual like mobster quarry workers like they are driving the equipment it's not just like a front.
01:32:11
Zach Sheets
a Yeah, i keep appearances.
01:32:17
Chris Prime
So they have to dig.
01:32:33
Chris Prime
Ooh, that gambler lady's gonna be pissed.
01:32:35
Zach Sheets
It's like, oh no, Monique is going to be so mad at me.
01:33:23
Zach Sheets
should be like should be like a dump truck related one-liner. I don't know what you do, but...
01:33:29
Chris Prime
Your cargo.
01:33:32
Zach Sheets
Dump this.
01:33:35
Chris Prime
Rock out.
01:33:38
Chris Prime
Your rocks cracked. I don't know. I feel like ah there's that fake money again.
01:33:45
Zach Sheets
This is how it gets my satisfaction.
01:35:03
Chris Prime
He's in the walls.
01:35:11
Zach Sheets
through the air ducts.
01:35:12
Chris Prime
huge air duct to fit Arnold.
01:35:13
Zach Sheets
The fit Arnold. Yeah.
01:35:50
Chris Prime
There's something glorious about like a late 80s, early 90s shootout where everyone just sort of stays in place. There's no tactical moves. Just pop from cover and just shoot.
01:35:57
Zach Sheets
Yep.
01:36:00
Zach Sheets
And then they jerk around and get swibs going off on him.
01:36:03
Chris Prime
hmm.
01:36:24
Chris Prime
Like, it's not even Arnold doing, like, tactical slides and, like, rolls anything. He's just literally moving around this club.
01:36:31
Zach Sheets
Yep.
01:36:35
Zach Sheets
just waiting Just waving the gun around.
01:36:37
Chris Prime
Is he even aiming? just sort like, spraying?
01:37:18
Chris Prime
Sven.
01:37:20
Zach Sheets
One
01:37:23
Chris Prime
Is he gonna tell to leave? Nope.
01:37:43
Zach Sheets
so the one guy You kid him.
01:37:58
Chris Prime
What a showdown.
01:38:21
Chris Prime
doesn't even the bad guy give a speech or anything.
01:38:23
Zach Sheets
no
01:38:23
Chris Prime
Just mows him down.
01:38:32
Chris Prime
Like, this is for Harry. Like, doesn't give him that.
01:38:42
Chris Prime
What?
01:38:45
Zach Sheets
You got sprinkled.
01:38:47
Chris Prime
You got Ike and Mike. um like They're just Ikes and Mike's, but I'm like, for Jelly Beans, I...
01:38:52
Zach Sheets
Was it... I thought there was, they're like sprinkles, like ice cream sprinkles.
01:38:56
Chris Prime
No, they're huge.
01:38:56
Zach Sheets
But yeah, it had to be some kind of candy.
01:39:27
Zach Sheets
It's weird they didn't show Baxter like their photo of like, hey, this is this is the guy that like we know is infiltrating us. And people are like, oh, that's Kaminsky. like
01:39:35
Chris Prime
Yeah, they're finding out now.
01:39:37
Zach Sheets
He's figured out now, yeah.
01:40:22
Chris Prime
There was a survivor?
01:40:24
Zach Sheets
yeah
01:41:16
Chris Prime
Chicago smarts.
01:41:17
Zach Sheets
yeah
01:41:23
Chris Prime
So we really don't see the wife again, right?
01:41:25
Zach Sheets
I don't think so. She just like has to live her entire life knowing that like Mark blew up in an oil refinery explosion.
01:41:34
Chris Prime
that marriage was rocky, but this is cruel.
01:41:41
Chris Prime
Hello, new wife.
01:41:43
Zach Sheets
i have a bag full of stolen money.
01:41:48
Chris Prime
Is Harry still alive?
01:41:51
Zach Sheets
Maybe.
01:42:01
Chris Prime
Oh, this is their Casablanca moment.
01:42:06
Chris Prime
She's also a bad gambler. Don't give her choices.
01:42:14
Chris Prime
She's like, I'm going to double down. you no
01:42:20
Zach Sheets
It's like, pilot, take me to Monte Carlo.
01:42:31
Zach Sheets
He is looking at you, kid.
01:42:35
Chris Prime
Of all the Chicago bars and all the Chicago places.
01:42:47
Chris Prime
This movie should have been called Chicago Deal.
01:42:50
Zach Sheets
You know, I read the... On ID Trivia, it says the original title was Let's Make a Deal.
01:42:57
Chris Prime
It sounded like a TV show. I think there is a TV show.
01:42:59
Zach Sheets
mean yeah it's it's a game show.............
01:44:12
Zach Sheets
Look at you. You're so skinny, Harry. You got to be pumping it up.
01:44:28
Chris Prime
Lies. Lies.
01:44:29
Zach Sheets
The token, like, people are going to be mad if he doesn't go back to his wife.
01:44:52
Chris Prime
For all that drinking and baking?
01:44:59
Zach Sheets
I like how this hand wait it's like not even an explanation of like how he got like undid his death and everything his fake death
01:45:09
Chris Prime
Yep, he just showed up one day and was like, I'm back. He unexploded that gasoline factory.
01:45:14
Zach Sheets
by the way I didn't die
01:45:32
Chris Prime
I feel like this is a scene from another movie, right? Like, they stole this something from, like, a play, which was like, alright, let's just include in this.
01:45:34
Zach Sheets
yeah like some sort like inspirational drama about a guy who like wants to walk again
01:45:42
Chris Prime
Yeah.
01:45:44
Chris Prime
Regains his, like, mobility.
01:45:52
Chris Prime
Also, for a guy that got shot, like, in the shoulder, he I don't understand how what happened to his legs.
01:45:59
Zach Sheets
i guess he i mean i guess he had to take his a shot to the spine or something
01:46:03
Chris Prime
I don't know.
01:46:04
Zach Sheets
by Maybe.
01:46:17
Zach Sheets
Raw deal.
01:46:20
Chris Prime
Best deal? I mean, Arnold got everything. like He got everything he wanted.
01:46:26
Zach Sheets
Mm-hmm.
01:46:26
Chris Prime
The raw deal would have been like he didn't get everything he wanted and it's like he got tricked but it was exactly what he signed up for.
Reflecting on 'Raw Deal' as an Underrated Gem
01:46:32
Chris Prime
It was like he accomplished the goal.
01:46:33
Zach Sheets
He accomplished it. then he went home and his life is way better than was when he left.
01:46:40
Chris Prime
If anything the town he blew up got the raw deal. It's like they welcomed this guy became the sheriff and then blew up their like economy.
01:46:47
Zach Sheets
would great he went back to like ah the town and it's just like it's like a a desolate because all their income's gone. it just it turned into ghost town.
01:46:58
Chris Prime
Yeah, like, if you think about it, they might have, um, he might have just, like, really put off those workers who let, uh, like, these people drive through that lumber yard.
01:47:09
Chris Prime
So they're gonna get us speaking to. And then it's like, I'm pretty sure you can't just blow up gasoline on a public road and they're just, like, like, someone's gotta fix that, right?
01:47:21
Chris Prime
And then he blew up the refinery.
01:47:21
Zach Sheets
Yeah. Mm-hmm. I guess maybe they had the logging as well in that town, because they had that giant logging facility, but...
01:47:32
Zach Sheets
Mm-hmm.
01:47:32
Chris Prime
Yeah, but that runs on gasoline.
01:47:42
Chris Prime
I mean, it's still like a decent Arnold movie.
01:47:51
Zach Sheets
yeah it's it's it's Yeah, it's a great like deeper cut. like If you're Arnold Sicko like us, like it's like, oh yeah, Raw Deal. that's And Red Heat, those are the ones. If you tell someone to name it Arnold Movie, no one is ever going to name Raw Deal.
01:48:24
Chris Prime
Thank
01:48:51
Chris Prime
Again, that wife is not going to be super excited that her husband faked his death and got away with her for, like, what feels like weeks.
01:48:58
Zach Sheets
like
01:49:00
Zach Sheets
They have like musical theme- each each character- like the Arnold got a theme and the main Yagaga got a theme. There's a special section just for themes.
01:49:14
Zach Sheets
Oh man. Find this soundtrack on vinyl or something.
01:49:17
Chris Prime
Hmm.
01:49:34
Chris Prime
ah d Yeah, I feel like, um...
01:49:35
Zach Sheets
Oh, yeah.
01:49:40
Zach Sheets
Yeah, definitely definitely definitely a super fun ah like, ah you know, not top tier Arnold, but like if you're wanting to dig into like his ah deeper filmography, this is like a fun one.
01:49:58
Chris Prime
in In the spirit of what this movie represents, it's exactly what it is. You know what mean? Like, it's it's fun, action-y. It's supposed to be, like, cheesy to some degree.
01:50:10
Chris Prime
But...
01:50:10
Zach Sheets
Well, it's like a gangster movie, but like with the Arnold twist of like a gangster movie where Arnold comes at the end and blows everybody with machine guns.
01:50:18
Chris Prime
Yeah. And then kind of of it's like, oh, you want the big shootout? It's like, you get two. You get the one in the quarry and the one in the casino. And it holds back like all these like kind of like things Arnold would have been doing to prove that he was the big muscle.
01:50:36
Chris Prime
They really wait until the end. ah And he was pretty much like a one man army and that's it. Like he didn't get help from anyone. You know, like it's he had like his gambling friend who, again, not a good gambler.
01:50:53
Zach Sheets
And Darren McGavin gave him like some money.
01:50:57
Chris Prime
Vague amount of money that he just keeps blowing off.
01:51:00
Zach Sheets
My life savings, $45,000. Here, take half of it.
01:51:06
Chris Prime
You know, he should have saved money and gave it back to him at the end.
01:51:10
Zach Sheets
Oh, some of the money. He gave me all the money to like Monique the Gambler. Be like, oh, I gotta pay my friend back ah the money he gave me to start this whole thing.
01:51:18
Chris Prime
have been funny at the end. Just like, oh, like, do you you know, hospitals are mounting. He's just like, oh I need to call my friend and ask for some money back.
01:51:28
Zach Sheets
like He gives me all the money and then he gives like Harry like a block of heroin. it's like you can You could probably sell that for a lot of money.
01:51:32
Chris Prime
Yeah.
01:51:39
Zach Sheets
The street value is like a couple hundred thousand dollars right now.
01:51:43
Chris Prime
Yeah, but like, in in terms of that universe, like, all of the East Coast drugs have been blown up by him.
01:51:53
Zach Sheets
Yeah, like the Chicago gone now.
01:51:56
Chris Prime
Yeah, the two the two like factors are just gone.
01:51:59
Zach Sheets
Both organizations dead. Different cities. He's got undercover different criminal organization.
01:52:05
Chris Prime
So... It would have been a sequel of like someone from the like the rival family tries to go after him. And then that would have been an interesting sequel to see Harry like, hey, you know you pissed off the other mob and now they're after they're back for revenge.
01:52:22
Zach Sheets
or ah different city he's got go like yeah he's got undercover of a different like or criminal organization like you're the master You're the master going undercover now, Mark.
01:52:37
Chris Prime
but Any last thoughts?
Conclusion and Listener Invitation
01:52:41
Zach Sheets
ah No, this is just yet it's just a super fun Arnold movie. um And yeah, 40 years.
01:52:47
Chris Prime
Damn. Age me.
01:52:50
Zach Sheets
ah
01:52:54
Zach Sheets
But ah yes, so i think they'll do it for this month's commentary. We'll be back in with another one next month. Head of the main site and check out all of our other stuff. We got the regular kind of the podcast. We got news reviews, trailers, all that stuff is up there.
01:53:05
Zach Sheets
um And yes, for Chris, I'm Zach, and we will see you next time.
01:53:11
Chris Prime
Thank