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Robert McCall v Chance Boudreaux — Mullets & Funky Floors
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Robert McCall from the Equalizer steps into the bayou to face off against the most aggressive mullet in cinematic history — Chance Boudreaux.
We’re breaking down snake charming, dramatic slo-mo, and whether funky floors are a legitimate combat advantage. Along the way, we uncover a wild theory about McCall’s true identity, revisit the legend of Home Mart, and (once again) determine if Jordan actually watched the correct JCVD movie.
Mullets will fly.
Nail guns may or may not be involved.
Let’s settle it.
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Transcript
Introduction & Tournament Overview
00:00:07
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This is the fictional fighting championship podcast, the ultimate battleground where Hollywood's deadliest warriors collide. We're a taking 48 of the most ruthless, skilled, and battle-hardened fighters from movies and TV and throwing them into a no-holds-barred tournament to see who survives.
00:00:26
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You've seen the movies, you know the legends. Now it's time to settle the score.
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C4. Highly explosive. You put them all together, you got a bomb. Not very sophisticated, but very powerful.
00:00:46
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That's what you have in your ass right now. Don't move. Don't move. Don't move. I'm Jordan Guerrero. I'm Christian Doherty. And I'm Steve Sadler.
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And this is a podcast about the greatest fictional tournament in the history of the universe. And that, my friends, is not an exaggeration.
Van Damme's Hard Target & Character Analysis
00:01:06
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What's up? Jordan, I can't wait to hear what Jean-Claude Van Damme movie you watched on this one.
00:01:18
Speaker
I actually did watch Hard Target this time. And after watching it, I think I made a mistake and I watched the right movie the first time. ah I'm going to say we might've had the wrong character in there because ultimately his best move is the roundhouse kick anyway.
00:01:32
Speaker
Okay. Ooh, well, that's, that's always a bonus category when we run the gauntlet is did we pick the right character? So you'll get, you'll get a chance to make that argument. All right, let's go. Chris.
00:01:43
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Well, I kind of gave, I kind of spoiled it. Didn't I? Damn it. I spoiled it. All right, go ahead and tell us who's fighting in this one.
McCall vs. Boudreaux: Fictional Matchup Introduction
00:01:50
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I'll still give you guys the intro. Would you believe it? Once again, we have an incredible matchup.
00:01:57
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We can't miss. This week we have Bobby the Boston Bruiser, Robert the Equalizer McCall versus the magnificent mulleted madman, Chance Boudreaux.
00:02:12
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and love the alliteration. thought make it special for you guys this time. It was very special. It was it was everything I ever dreamed of. Coming back is Chance Boudreaux, played by Jean-Claude Van Damme, of course. But for the first time, we're seeing Robert McCall, played by Denzel Washington, of course.
00:02:29
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What kind of history do you guys have, if any, with these characters?
Denzel Washington's Portrayal of Robert McCall
00:02:34
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Denzel, man. He is one of the greats. Some of my favorites being Creasy from Man on Fire. It is possible Denzel Washington is our best actor represented by this entire tournament.
00:02:49
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I was going to say the same thing. I mean, an action movie podcast is filled with terrible, terrible actors. So it's pretty refreshing that we get someone like him to take on someone like Chuck Norris.
00:03:03
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Yeah, you might have nailed the best and worst right there. I'll just add this, you
Hosts' Favorite Movie Rewatches
00:03:07
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know. Yeah, I do have a history with with one of these characters for sure, of course, um Robert McCall. And I asked ah one of our super listeners, Hot Sauce Lisa, what my most rewatched movies are. what In her opinion, what does she think the the movies that I've watched the most since I've known her? In no particular order, the three she mentioned were Shawshank Redemption, Gladiator, and Equalizer.
00:03:32
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It's very possible that this is my favorite movie in this and entire genre. And he plays Alonzo in training day. yeah Another classic, just yeah. Two of my favorite characters of all time. And another one in Robert McCall here.
00:03:48
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Steve, I think you hit on the rewatch ability, which is something that I don't know, 25% of the movies in this podcast have. And this one has it with stars and stripes.
00:03:59
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I watched it about three times just preparing for this podcast and I could seriously, I could watch it right now. If the the internet went out and I'm at my parents' house, so they have cable, I would, and it was on,
Equalizer Series Appreciation
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I'd watch it. I'd watch it again.
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And it's not like, I don't know, some of the Rambo movies or Terminator or something like that, where you're like, okay, the first one was good. And then it was a money grab with a bunch of shitty movies. And then they kind of got okay again at the end. No, all three of them are fantastic.
00:04:27
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Maybe a fourth hasn't come out yet, but TBD. Okay, you nailed it. um i've heard
Rumors of Future Equalizer Sequels
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I've heard this. I can't tell if it's a rumor, but it seems real that Equalizer 4 and 5 are going to happen.
00:04:40
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We can hope. I just went from 6 to midnight when that happened.
00:04:45
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That took me a second. Oh, God, now I know. All right, moving on. Moving on. to moving on Let's not forget the absolute classics that Jean-Claude Van Damme has been in.
00:04:59
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Maybe they aren't they don't have the rewatchability of the movies that Denzel has been in, but they are classics and they are very very nostalgic, pretty feel-good films to to watch on repeat, even if they are a little corny.
00:05:11
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And like Denzel, there's several characters that we could put in this tournament that Van Damme plays. So who did you guys have winning this, or having the advantage at least, before any research?
00:05:24
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before I'd ever seen either of these movies, all I knew about Van Damme is he does the splits. And all I knew about the equalizer is like, isn't he kind of old for this?
00:05:35
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So I wasn't sure. before I watched either of them, I thought probably Van Damme because he can do the splits. Yeah, he's a great athlete. i'm I'm very biased. Can't even remember a day when I hadn't watched any of the equalizers. So I was heavily leaning towards Robert McCall.
00:05:52
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Jordan, you brought a good point, I think. It levels the playing field a little bit with Van Damme being so chaotic and so great at striking and martial arts. you know And then you have Robert McCall, who's on the older side, but still very strong and quick.
00:06:07
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Yeah, Van Damme's reputation almost precedes him a little bit. And he plays very similar characters through all his films. So i kind of ah was leaning Van Damme. All right. Well, let's learn more about these guys right after Jordan gives our biggest fans some instruction.
Podcast Promotion & Contact Information
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Robert McCall: Character & Signature Moves
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All right, let's do the tale of the tape here for Robert McCall. He debuted in 2014 in Equalizer, portrayed by Denzel Washington. His fight stats, he's about 190 pounds-ish. And I say ish because we have some discrepancy when Ralphie, and well I'm sure we'll talk about Ralphie here, but he tells Ralphie he's $1.90. Ralphie tries to drag him across the floor. Ralphie says, $1.90, my ass. So Ralphie thinks he's up closer to $200.
00:07:28
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Oh, Ralphie. And his age, he was in his late fifties when we met Robert McCall. Home turf. He is fighting out of Boston, Massachusetts. Signature move.
00:07:40
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There's a lot. I'll tell you for me, the signature move might be pulling out the stopwatch. Yeah. Prior to absolutely destroying his enemies, he seems to slow down time.
00:07:51
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So disrespectful to pull out a stopwatch and say, okay, not only am I going to beat this guy, but I'm going to start my watch and I'm going to say 13 seconds. I'm going to say his other signature move is what he does after the stopwatch, which is the disarm.
00:08:06
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Because pretty much every time he walks into a situation, he's just a guy walking into a room. And within two seconds, one guy is dead and he now has a weapon in his hands. Yeah. i' i'm I'm probably going to be talking about that in a few minutes.
00:08:19
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Yeah. The disarm is perfect. Yeah. So good. All right. How about a vibe check for Robert McCall? I've got cool as the other side of the pillow. That's great. Spot on brooding Boston bad boy. Ooh.
00:08:34
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I love again, more alliteration. I like it. I'm tagging him as the older Weiser, Jason Bourne. Okay. Ooh, that's a good one. He can kick ass and dish out life advice.
00:08:47
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Okay. Hey, I like it. Are you guys prepared for the kill count? No, I'm going to be way off on this one. I know it. I mean, don't think I'm going to be too far off, but I feel like I don't want to be too low. I feel like we've been low on a lot of our guesses.
Robert McCall's Kill Count and Fun Facts
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Okay. Well, remember there's three movies.
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I'm going to jump out and say 95. ninety five Okay. That's a big number. That's a huge number. That's okay. That's more. I was saying 40. Okay.
00:09:19
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okay Approximately 54 confirmed kills. Ah, All right. So Jordan wins that one. And of course it includes presumed kills.
00:09:30
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For example, when he returned the hammer to the shelf at the, at the home Depot or home Mart, whatever were going assume he hit the dude over the head with that hammer. He was wiping it down. So those, those of course count.
00:09:43
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This has been my season for Kill Count. Do we have a current score right now? on a roll. I think you've won like in row here. Yeah, undefeated. Yeah, seriously. This has been wild. Hey, I got a little fun fact here, especially for Chris.
00:09:55
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Robert McCall's address in Boston, they flashed and showed his apartment. His address is 40 Falcon Street, which is a three-minute drive or six-minute walk from your house, Chris.
00:10:07
Speaker
It is, it is. I'm really glad you brought that up. I had mentioned to you, Steve, that he lives in East Boston. I did not know his exact address. That's really cool. A little fact you had there. But I did mention that the gas station that's featured quite prominently is just down around the corner from my house. There's some blood on the floor there that like has stained the concrete.
00:10:31
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little strange, but yeah, I think some shit went down there. I think, I think you're right.
Chance Boudreaux: Character Introduction
00:10:43
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All right, let's do a tale the tape for Chance Boudreaux. His debut was 1993 in Hard Target, portrayed by Jean-Claude Van Damme. His fight stats. He's about five nine about 185 pounds, and when we meet him, he's in his early thirty s His home turf.
00:11:02
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Well, we know he's fighting out of the bayous of New Orleans, Louisiana. And signature move. We've done this once before. i i changed it. I added a little flair to this. For me, his signature move was a slow-mo shot from that first scene where he unholsters his leg. He's wearing a long coat. He unholsters his leg as as a cowboy gunslinger would unholster his six-shooter.
00:11:29
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It was incredible. I'm so glad you brought that because i' I was annoyed that we didn't cover this in ah in his first episode. Yeah. and Yeah, absolutely iconic.
00:11:39
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There were some great slow-mo shots in that. Well, maybe we'll talk about that too. Flipping his mullet, lighting a match. Yeah. The music, the music in that film is so good. Yeah. Awesome. Right, right before a fight.
00:11:51
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Anyone have a vibe check for this guy? Sexy snake jarmer. Oh, that's good. Yes. Yes. Yes. Uh, the Cajun karate master. Okay. You guys are coming to play today. I can't, I have, he's kind of like a mysterious drifter, but still with some serious for his.
00:12:10
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I love the duster trench coat that he wears everywhere. I've got to imagine that this guy is overheated as fuck. Cause you look around everyone else in the town and in every single scene is in like a t-shirt and shorts or jeans. And then he's walking in there with like six layers of leather. know You're going to be exhausted, dehydrated, and completely overheated before the fight even starts. But somehow he gets through it.
00:12:34
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His mullet is always moisturized though. that is We've done the kill count. It was 24. Jordan won that one, I believe. or Sorry, will Will won that one.
00:12:46
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I'm ah failing miserably. Yeah. yeah You lost ah to Will as well in his in his debut. But I do have a fun fact here, a fun casting fact. Did you know that the role of Chance Boudreaux was being considered for Kurt Russell?
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Cool. Yeah. Pretty cool. Love Kurt Russell. Snake Plissken. I feel like I've heard that a couple times. Like you'll never guess who they were going to cast for this role. It was Kurt Russell. Yeah.
00:13:13
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He was also considered for Robert McCall. Not really. I made that up. I confused confused him with Jeff Bridges. Yeah, I know. I do that too. Speaking of the hammer in home Mart, we have a word from our sponsor.
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00:14:11
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Should we do the character breakdowns?
McCall's Background & Combat Skills
00:14:13
Speaker
Okay. Let's talk about McCall's battle resume. Now this is interesting because, and this is why I love the internet. We don't have to guess. The keyboard warriors went in and found photos of Robert McCall in mostly, i think an equalizer too, but he was actually wearing a military uniform. So they zoomed in, they enhanced it. They figured out exactly pretty much what this guy has done in his career before we meet him.
00:14:40
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Okay. So we know he's in the U.S. Marine Corps, a gunnery sergeant in the Marines. His service record appears to include high-level valor awards, specifically the Navy Cross and the Silver Star.
00:14:53
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those You can see those on his uniform. Some sources also say that he served in Force Recon. Also DIA, which is Defense Intelligence Agency, and DCS, which is the Defense Clandestine Services. Jordan, maybe you can confirm this. I think that is ah like an elite black ops type group.
00:15:14
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Exceptionally black ops. I've never heard of them. Yeah, DCS is referenced in the film, I think. And funny enough, Chance Boudreaux was also in Force Recon. Oh, I like it.
00:15:28
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All right. Character time period. It was contemporary. So mid 2010s. That's about right. His background, his training skills that we know of again, black ops training CQC close quarters combat, very heavily close quarters, unreal hand to hand combat tactical firearms.
00:15:47
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And we know that he speaks several languages. he at least speaks English, Spanish, Russian, Arabic, and Italian from what we've heard. Yeah. Are you going to bring up English every time we have a character on here? It counts, man. It counts.
00:16:01
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ah yeah I have to include English because remember Ip Man had zero English. That's fair. He only spoke one language. No, he's really channeling some Jason Bourne vibes here.
00:16:13
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Talk about a couple of preferred weapons. His bare hands, knives. His enemies' weapons. Yeah. There you go. Pistols, rifles.
00:16:24
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Hardware aisle three. He brings fists to a gunfight. Yeah, good. And wins. yeah You brought a gun to a hammer fight. That should be his motto. And some of his opponents that he's faced. We know he faced the Russian mob.
00:16:41
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The Italian mob. Italian, yeah. The feds. Trained mercenaries. Corrupt intel ops. The only thing that we highlight here is that he's not fighting these jabronis, as we refer to a lot of a lot of the times. these These are mostly trained trained warriors. Only in the third film are they mostly jabronis, but still very dangerous. Yeah, dangerous jabronis.
00:17:03
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is Wait, is jabroni an Italian word? It's got to be. It's to dessert, like a cannoli. I'll have the jabroni. I do love that word as an insult.
00:17:16
Speaker
Should we run the gauntlet? Run it. We need an intro for the gauntlet. How about a, yeah, like it's like a song, like an over the top, really melodramatic power ballad. Oh, should we do the final countdown in one of these? Like for the end? Yeah. We're dishing out. Might yeah might get demonetized.
00:17:34
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Yeah. I don't know if we can play actual songs. We have a certain amount of seconds, right? we can be like, it's the final. of the you can Verdict. All right. Who's running this thing?
00:17:46
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Let's run the gauntlet on. Mr.
Impactful Equalizer Scenes & Scenarios
00:17:49
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McCall keyboard carnage. Who's got a great quote about these movies. I saw one. Someone just said, uh, Denzel kills an entire Russian mafia using a home Depot as a weapon. Five stars.
00:18:05
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That was also my quote. Home Depot equals a bad place to be while on Robert McCall's bad side. So good. I love the idea of using a building as a weapon. Yeah.
00:18:17
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An even crazier sequel would be like, you're trapped in Costco with him. And it's like, okay, how's he going to kill me with a 48 pack of pork tenderloins? Wait, Ikea.
00:18:28
Speaker
Oh, there you go. Only one way in and one way out. Yeah. Sounds like a nightmare. I have one from equalizer three. a comment on a youtube video where dakota fanning is in the scene with mccall or denzel i should say saying that she's tracked him down and if you've seen the film you will notice that she's trying to inconspicuously take photos of mccall from a table across the other side of the ah cafe but she leaves her sound on and the The phone is making that camera noise when she takes a photo.
00:19:08
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And someone commented, ah why does a special agent leave the sound on when they're trying to take a covert photo? So that that was just a funny observation. But I wanted to bring this up because this is an awesome reunion of two actors from an incredible film that Denzel was previously in with Dakota Fanning. Man on Fire. I mentioned it before, one of my favorites, but um just thought it was a really cool reunion. And there were a lot of comments on how cool that was. And it was kind of like ah they were saying, Peter is all grown up and she's still with her creasy bear. That was kind of nice. Yeah, that's cool.
00:19:43
Speaker
That's great. How about they've gone too far? Somewhere in the equalizer where they have gone absolutely bonkers. ah Well, you know, one reason I like the Equalizer movie is because I kind of feel for the most part that these things could actually happen. it kind of feels real to me. But there's one moment just for the sake of this category. There's one moment where maybe it was a step too far. It was an Equalizer three and we saw him get shot in the back. He was badly injured. that it was a child that shot him. And it was kind of a severe injury. I don't know if he was in a coma, but at minimum he was in shock and bedridden and unconscious, right?
McCall's Recovery & Life Lessons
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And he was released from the hospital. He limped for a little bit, maybe a couple days and then boom, he's right back into McCall mode and he's just murdering dozens of criminals. So he's either bionic or maybe they went one step too far and cut out a few ah a few days of recovery. It's all that pasta that they feed you in the hospital when you're recovering.
00:20:38
Speaker
Those Italian hospitals. This one is almost not in the theme of they've gone too far in that it was a ridiculous action scene, but just something that was absolutely ridiculous. So in Equalizer 2, right, he goes to the projects to go find Miles out there who's running with the gangs.
00:20:55
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And he takes them back, beats all those guys, and at gunpoint convinces him to not join the gang and that it's a bad and dangerous life. Not 30 minutes later in the movie, while trying to help him deal with his peeling pain, he's now kidnapped in the trunk and getting shot by all the guys. So here's McCall. Here's where he's gone too far. He was trying to tell him, you can't do that. That's a dangerous life. Stick with me, kid. And then like 30 minutes later, he's stuffed in a trunk getting shot at.
00:21:23
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And was no good ending for him, too. Like, you know, they show him drawing at the end. I assumed it was me like a Gran Torino kind of thing where he like gives him the Gran Torino, but he didn't get shit from this. He learned a valuable lesson, Jordan.
00:21:36
Speaker
There we go. Ralphie too. He got Ralphie in trouble. Yeah. Ralphie almost died. They've gone too far for me. Equalizer three. it is a very emotional ending with the mafia boss, you know, crawling miles and miles dying on the way as McCall just sort of follows him like an angel of death.
00:21:57
Speaker
And right at the end, as he's crawling down one of the Italian streets, He falls ah over on, know, he's crawling and he falls over onto his back. And then um a random basket of fruit just kind of gently rolls over his head and all the fruit falls on his face. And I just thought that was like a really like, you know, kick him while he's down kind of ending to his death. Salt in the wound and then And then McCall takes a bite of the apple.
00:22:23
Speaker
Yeah, yeah. And yeah another user comment, Keyboard Carnage, they said, oh it was so nice that McCall sang him to sleep. What about for your collection? Anything absolutely iconic in this series that you have to have up on your shelf?
00:22:39
Speaker
Nail gun.
Desirable Items from Equalizer Series
00:22:40
Speaker
Ooh, that's a good one. I'll have it as a tool in my basement and on my tool shelf and I will use it. It'll be a, you know, it won't just be sitting there.
00:22:50
Speaker
Can't argue. I'd take the watch though. I think the wristwatch, does it change? Does it change from film to film? I forget. I don't know. It's a good question. um um my guess My guess is he he's very regimented. He probably keeps the same type of watch anyway.
00:23:04
Speaker
He's a Frogo guy. There's no way he's buying a new watch every it's not a Rolex, no. It's absolutely iconic, but they also never explain why he times it. You're just supposed to assume that there's some reason. That's one of the funniest things about every time that he times it there. like It almost feels like you're watching the accountant there, and he's like pulling out some Rain Man levels of autism there.
00:23:27
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Definitely OCD. Which I think is further proven in the equalizer too, when he's ridiculously protective of his pot of a rose cut pollo when miles tries to touch it, it just fully shows how OCD he is.
00:23:40
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Deep research. Beautiful. It's what we like to see. You take your job seriously. Yippee ki, motherfucker. Best quotes from the movie. There are so many good quotes in this one. oh my God.
00:23:51
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So many great monologues. What do you get? What do you guys got? A short and sweet one for me. He says, i think it's an equalizer two. The only disappointment I will feel is that i only get to kill you guys once.
00:24:05
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oh Yeah, that's pretty awesome. I like this one. It's from Equalizer One. He's just so calm and very matter of fact. He meets Teddy, aka Nikolai, I guess. But Teddy is who we're calling him. He meets him in that restaurant. And he sits down and they're having a conversation, right, where they're face to face. And he says, I've done some bad things in my life, Nikolai.
00:24:27
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Things I'm not proud of. I promised someone I love very much that I would never go back to being that person. But for you, I'm going to make an exception. I'm a big fan of that. Nice.
00:24:39
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I feel like you could recite that by hot. Yeah. That's, it's just so, so good. And he's so calm and the delivery is amazing. This guy is a master of cool. Yeah. My, my favorite line also from the first movie, his first big fight where he takes out all the Russians with his wristwatch there.
00:24:57
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And at the end of it, when the last one is dying bloody on the floor, he just crouches down next to him, looks him the eyes, says her life is going to go on. But yours is, going end right here on this funky floor over $9,800. He should have taken the money.
00:25:12
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And I just couldn't. Oh my God. Why'd he call the floor funky? It was hilarious. That's such a Denzel Denzel way to say it. We're going to talk about this scene. I know because it's just incredible. It might be the greatest action scene in the history of the universe. And that might not be an exaggeration. Wait, wait, quickly. That same scene. Go back to for your collection. I'll take a corkscrew.
00:25:35
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oh yeah Nice. Or the skulls. you know the The skulls, yep. Perfect. Imagine going to Chris's house. I'm like, you know, trying to open a bottle of wine before I help him nail his fence back together. I'm like, Chris, why is all your stuff bloody?
00:25:51
Speaker
but can i Can I suggest a bonus category here?
Denzel Washington's Role as McCall: Right Fit?
00:25:56
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Chris, did we pick the right character for this actor? Oh, man, you're calling me out here. We're going to have a showdown here and now.
00:26:05
Speaker
I have given you a lot of grief in the past about the fact that, and I guess we're doing this bonus category early, but um I've told you that Creasy from Man on Fire would be the perfect choice for Denzel as a character in this tournament. What do you have to say to that?
00:26:22
Speaker
I love it. I just think that maybe McCall's a little more polished. It's a really good point. Okay, guys, requesting permission to riff. Riff away.
00:26:33
Speaker
Okay, thank you. Because I've got a theory that I cannot not say. So let me just say this. well Here's what we know about Robert McCall. you know Of course, he's got a very dark past. He's black ops, highly trained, highly lethal. And at some point he wanted to get out of it, not just out of it. He wanted completely gone. And we're told he stages his own death in a car bomb. He totally disappears. He meets Vivian, who he married. He gets clean. He's obsessed with routine for years and it works. And he's living that quiet life until Vivian dies.
00:27:08
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And when she's gone, we see the old version come back. Only this time he's not broken. He's completely in control. He's like a perfect version of everything that he used to be. And now here's where I want to go off here.
Theories on McCall's Character Evolution
00:27:22
Speaker
Let's think about John Creasy, Man on Fire. Same exact skillset, same exact background. When we meet Creasy, he's like a total nightmare. He's a disaster. He's an alcoholic. He's out of control, right? He's clearly still lethal and has these skills, but he's only operating like a muscle memory and instinct. He's basically, he's running on fumes.
00:27:43
Speaker
We know Creasy is also comfortable with explosives. We know he's capable of wiping out entire organizations. And then at the end, we're told that he dies. But what if he didn't die?
00:27:55
Speaker
What if the death in the movie was just a metaphor? What if Creasy actually killed everyone in that car? And then he does the only thing that's left to do, which is get out of that life altogether. He erases himself. He stages the car bomb.
00:28:11
Speaker
It's referred to in the Equalizer. And then he just disappears. He gets clean. I'm saying John Creasy doesn't die. He just stops being Creasy and he becomes Robert McCall. I love it. Hell yeah. That's so good. I'm so glad we got to cover a little bit of Creasy in this episode. Shout out to that character. Love it. Love it. fancy Some fan fiction for everybody. Yes. Yes.
00:28:35
Speaker
Yes. That's perfect. Yeah. um No, I think your point about McCall being more polished or even just the fact that the same character is is really cool. At the end of the day, I think this this was the right choice. Although, did did mcco did McCall put a bomb up anyone's ass in any of the films?
00:28:53
Speaker
but Well, hold on let's Let's keep riffing here because I don't think his role ended at McCall. Another good role. What if McCall is just a younger version of himself after the world falls apart and he gets in a terrible accident and loses his eyesight, which leads to his character, eli From the book of Eli.
00:29:15
Speaker
ah he lives long enough to see the apocalypse. And only Robert McCall could survive the apocalypse as Eli, now blind with crazy gun and knife and sword handling skills.
00:29:28
Speaker
This is great. I love how we've just, you know, we're out control. Three films together. Yeah. Let's get to the next segment. Yeah. We got to talk about Chance Boudreaux here. right, Chris, take us away. Good segue.
00:29:48
Speaker
we're go Yeah, let's do the character breakdown for this guy first. And of course, we we've had him a couple weeks ago, so we're not going to do the same categories. But let's kind of do a quick review here. We know that he beat another Bostonian, Ray Donovan, the fixer of the stars.
00:30:02
Speaker
In your opinion, how did he win? what What do you guys think in terms of how did how did he pull this victory off? His spirit animal is a Beyblade.
00:30:15
Speaker
That's such a good description. Yeah, he has incredible evasive skills and is just so chaotic. There's no catching him. There's no pinning him down. The dude is ah an absolute firecracker.
00:30:29
Speaker
yeah I love Ray Donovan, but I honestly felt like Boudreaux was just more athletic,
Chance Boudreaux's Combat Style & Skills
00:30:34
Speaker
more dynamic. he was more He's more ruthless than Donovan, believe it or not. But I just feel like he has Donovan in nearly every category. you know Firearms, hand-to-hand, explosives, and just and even the formal training and everything. So I just think he was just playing better than Ray Donovan.
00:30:49
Speaker
We talk about it a lot that I think aggression plays a big role in a lot of these characters' advantages. Chance definitely brings that. What do you think was the biggest factor putting him over the top? I mean, we talked about his athleticism, you know his his ruthlessness and his training, but was the formal training, the elite training skills, was that the biggest factor?
00:31:10
Speaker
I think so at the end of the day. Towards the end of the film, he really turns it around on his hunters. He ends up using those elite skills, weaponry,
00:31:21
Speaker
you know obviously his martial arts to turn it around on them. So you could definitely see that happening with, with him against Ray Donovan. And I had mentioned, you know, Ray could potentially outsmart him in some way, but as we mentioned in that episode, I just think chance brought too much aggression, uh, that would, would have overwhelmed Ray despite Ray's stoicism.
00:31:41
Speaker
Yeah. He almost pulls in some, some Rambo like skills there where you have someone who is the hunted becoming the hunter. Someone with elite skills being chased by a ton of people and can turn it around on them, improvise traps, do all kinds of stuff and then take them out.
00:31:58
Speaker
Real one man army. Exactly. Yeah. One man and army type. and And he does fit that mold. And I just felt like Donovan didn't have that type of formal training. And I just thought it was too much.
00:32:09
Speaker
Great character, but he's a one and out. You know who he should have fought is Mike from Better Call Saul and Breaking Bad. That would been a good matchup. I've been rewatching Breaking Bad and Mike is ah is a badass. It surprised me when I watched it the second time because I kind of forgot. you know When you binge it, you see more things. And Mike is a total badass. And you know who else is a badass? Hank.
00:32:32
Speaker
yeah Total badass. Speaking of Mike, this has got me thinking. You know how in the UFC, when they're reaching the end of their career in the UFC, they go to Bellator?
00:32:43
Speaker
yeah And then they fight in Bellator for like another 10 years. yeah yeah It's just see these old dudes fighting each other. We could have like an old dudes tournament. yeah Mike would be in it. McCall would be in it. McCall would be a favorite for sure. brian mills but Brian Mills. You just have guys 50 and older.
00:33:02
Speaker
love that. ah yeah I'm all for it. I'm all for it. Let's start it. We'll do that on on Tuesdays. The silver bracket. Here we go. The masters. Yeah. The masters. I love that. They'll get a green jacket if they win.
00:33:16
Speaker
All right. Were we firing blanks on that pick? No, we were not. We got it right. Let's run the gauntlet. Gauntlet 2.0. You'll recall from the last season, we have a new version of the gauntlet for returning characters who won their previous matchup. For Boudreaux here, at what age could we take him?
00:33:36
Speaker
I don't know, man. He's very extreme. And you could imagine that he, you know, as a toddler, this fucking dude is just bouncing off the walls. I feel bad for his parents.
00:33:46
Speaker
He's probably very misbehaved and just an absolute terror. So i don't even know if I could take him at like five. Old man Chris take with a child now. Yeah. Can you imagine um like a young Chance Boudreau like two or three years old with a mullet?
00:34:03
Speaker
yeah Yeah. A mullet and a trench coat, like roundhouse kicking in the shin. Yeah, I used to say I could take any 13-year-old. I think I just said that a couple weeks ago, and I stand by that for the most part. But he definitely didn't have his elite training until he was at least 18, right, from the military type of training. But he had to be doing martial arts at an early age.
00:34:24
Speaker
And 13, I think it's pushing it. If this kid had a mullet at 13, there's no way. So I'm going to say 9 years old. That's pretty close. I'm going 12. If he's anything like the actual actor, Van Damme, he was probably already a kickboxing star at that point before he even entered yep the special forces. I mean, yeah look at Mike Tyson at age 13, and then you get reminded, holy shit, there are some elite people who look like absolute monsters at 13. So I'm going 12. All right, next category. This is one of my favorites. Hell in a Cell between Chance and McCall.
00:35:00
Speaker
McCall is someone you see who is consistently exceptional at hand-to-hand combat. He's absolutely top. But then you see Chance Boudreaux. And he is not just good, he is extreme.
00:35:12
Speaker
McCall is good, but I'm still giving it to Boudreaux. 7 out of 10.
00:35:17
Speaker
Yeah, this would be a fight of the night for sure. Just a classic going down in history. So much offense. I could see Chance really bringing it to McCall and maybe McCall actually kind of going on the defensive. I could see McCall being much better at defense than Boudreaux is and maybe Boudreaux would wear himself out.
00:35:37
Speaker
could see yeah McCall doing a lot of sweeps and deflecting of punches and kicks I'm gonna say McCall six out of ten times for this just because Boudreaux yeah Boudreaux emptying the gas tank and then McCall coming back and Okay, good.
00:35:53
Speaker
I like the debate here. Yeah, I got, you know, yeah, mccall McCall's outstanding hand to hand. I mean, he he's incredible, right? But I feel like Hell in a Cell is Boudreaux's top skill.
00:36:04
Speaker
And I think he wins this, even against McCall. And I also had seven out of 10. So I think I feel good about this pick. I also, I feel like this is a big win for Chance Boudreaux, for him to be able to hang his hat on this.
00:36:17
Speaker
Yeah, this would be a great win for Chance for sure. And ah what's interesting, I think, is that they are very close in height and weight. And I think really the only factor that gives Chance an advantage is his age.
00:36:32
Speaker
Next category, the casting couch. Could he play the other guy's role? Could Van Damme play Robert McCaul? Oh my God. No, no, no, no. Not a chance. but if If his Boston accent is anything like his Cajun accent, we're in trouble.
00:36:50
Speaker
I get a little angry thinking about how Van Damme would butcher one of my favorite action heroes. I love Van Damme. His films, his skills, his acting. ah Can you imagine McCall with a mullet?
00:37:05
Speaker
Oh, yeah. Another one of my favorites here, ideal tag team partner in a WWF style team up. I'm exceptionally excited for mine. Okay, good. Me too. Go for it.
00:37:17
Speaker
His ideal partner is going to be Inspector Lee, which is Jackie Chan from Rush Hour. Okay. Okay. Can you see him with Jackie Chan? The two of them doing karate kicks together.
00:37:29
Speaker
Their team name, because they like to spin around. I've got two here. The Tasmanian Devils or Cajun Persuasion. Oh my God. Yeah. So good. do You get, you get all the bonus points. Yeah. That's excellent. That's really excellent. And as soon as you said the, the Jackie chain character, I'm like, yeah, that's a really good matchup.
00:37:49
Speaker
All right. Yeah, no, I took this one seriously too. I wanted a tag team that has two very, very complimentary guys. So I wanted Boudreaux paired up with another military veteran, another flashy martial artist, you know, insane and unhealthy levels of confidence. That would be another another one. And kind of a shitty movie too. So here's who I have for Chance Boudreaux's tag team partner, Frank Dux from Bloodsport.
Boudreaux's Tag Team Partners & Improvisation
00:38:16
Speaker
Yeah.
00:38:19
Speaker
Yes. It's perfect. Twin brothers. And here's the team name. Damn, I'm good. And it's spelled D-A-M-M-E. Oh, that's great.
00:38:32
Speaker
That is so good. um Mine, you guessed it. It's a take on hair. His tag team partner would be Cameron Poe ah yeah from Con Air.
00:38:43
Speaker
Nick Cage. Nick Cage is just obviously iconic and just an absolute nutcase. I think he compliments Chance Boudreaux's style very well. And they both have amazing hair that that would complement each other. Both have mullets. You know, I really see these guys getting absolutely crazy in the ring, much like the Hardy Boys. Throwback to when I watched WWF. And their team name would be, I don't know, something corny like the Mullet Mobsters or something. Nice. I think this was our best effort on the tag team partner. I think this was a good one.
00:39:18
Speaker
I think Cameron Poe was in the running to be in the tournament. Cameron Poe is in the tournament. Yes, he is in the tournament. yes There you go. A little spoiler. yeah Yeah. A little spoiler too. I feel like Cameron Poe is the coolest name in the entire tournament.
00:39:31
Speaker
Hey, do we have time for a bonus category from Hard Target? of course okay it's not really boudreaux but it's hard from hard target i call this category the what character inspired me to take up a new hobby and the answer is emil fouchon who's the villain and the hobby that i'm dying to start is angrily playing classical piano while staring at myself in the mirror
00:39:59
Speaker
it's one of the most bizarre things i've ever seen We've got to get a better name for that bonus category. you Should we brush it up a little bit? Okay. Too long. Okay. Okay. All right. That's fair.
00:40:18
Speaker
All right, guys, we have a ton of awesome scenes that we have to discuss here. So let's let's slide into segment three and start to really break it down. We're going talk about some favorite moments, some signature scenes, and we're going to do it in a way that it's going to help us determine who's going to win this fight. So what comes to mind with these movies, either McCall or Boudreaux? One for me is in Equalizer 3. His close quarter combat skills in that initial scene are just incredible. And it really sets the tone for the film. Equalizer 3 is seemingly a lot darker and more intense and gory.
00:40:57
Speaker
Paint a picture of the scene. Where are we here? We're on an Italian a vineyard in the basement of an old Italian home. And even before you see McCall, the mafia boss is pulling up in a car. There's bodies and blood everywhere. He walks downstairs into the wine cellar and McCall is sitting there at gunpoint, very calmly and quietly just sitting there cleaning his hands from blood of blood. And the mob boss starts to interrogate him and you know ask him what he's doing there and everything.
00:41:29
Speaker
In classic McCall fashion, he looks at his watch and tells the mob boss that he has nine seconds to decide if he wants to live. He tells the mob boss that his henchmen are standing too close to him um and that that is going to be their downfall.
00:41:44
Speaker
After nine seconds, he kills all the henchmen in the room. absolutely brutally shoves the barrel of a gun through the eye of one of the henchmen and then proceeds to shoot the mob boss through the henchman's head with the gun still in his eye. i think it you know brings to the forefront his close quarter skills and his ruthlessness, basically. Yeah, it's great. One of favorite, favorite scenes. Really good.
00:42:09
Speaker
I literally had that exact same scene. It was the coolest scene. it It almost felt like machete levels of hokeyness when he punched the gun into the guy's face and then shot it shot inside of a guy's head. The gun was in his head cycling while he was taking another guy. It was Looney Tunes. I loved it.
00:42:28
Speaker
If anyone could do it, McCall could. Yeah. Denzel is so good that I feel like it's believable. And of course, Slavi's office in Equalizer 1. We talked about the funky floor. We talked about the corkscrew. you know We talked about the 13 seconds on the on the stopwatch and and all that. But what I want to highlight is McCall's demeanor and presence.
00:42:49
Speaker
before anything happens. Okay. This might be one of the best character introductions I can think of of all time. of course, we know there's something about him. This thing's called the equalizer, but as a viewer, we just don't know what the heck it is yet. Right. We haven't seen it, but when it finally shows up, it's absolutely incredible. When he locks the door from the inside,
00:43:12
Speaker
Just like the hairs on the back of my neck stand up. And that's after seeing it for 35 times already. you know The whole tone shifts. And when he turns those skull statues towards the mobsters and as a warning, that's not a threat. That's just a signal of what's about to happen here. The fight hasn't started yet, but it's already over. And I just i just described an entire scene completely ignoring all the amazing kills. that I just love that.
00:43:39
Speaker
What about Boudreaux? Jordan, did you did you watch the correct film this time? do you have any takes? I don't know if it was the correct film, but at some point I remember him standing on top of a motorcycle while chasing after bad guys. He could have ridden on it, but he was standing on it. And he was shooting them with his pistol while standing on top of the moving motorcycle. Not using two hands, using one hand. Like it was a goddamn circus trick. If this guy was like, a I don't know, you're playing D&D or something and you're trying to fill out his character stats...
00:44:08
Speaker
You just maxed out like balance. Yeah. and And luck. Balance and luck. Good. He definitely has that on his side. It seems just, yeah, I think his improvisation under fire is impressive. And that is one of my favorite scenes from the film.
00:44:25
Speaker
Him being able to take out his enemies with something that, you know, you wouldn't you wouldn't necessarily consider a weapon. Iconic. There's a barn scene that i I don't remember talking about this last time. Maybe we touched on this scene a little bit. A textbook Chance Boudreaux move. Chance is facing an armed opponent.
00:44:45
Speaker
He sees a gas can. He kicks the gas can across the room. I can't remember if we we talked about this, but he kicks a gas can across the barn. And while it's still flying, he shoots that thing in midair, turns into a bomb.
00:44:57
Speaker
He didn't plan this out. It's just a reaction and a moment that he created. And to make it even more FFC relevant against Robert McCall, that is some extreme high level hand-eye coordination, timing. confidence all wrapped into one thing. Right. And in this instance, he's kind of pulling a McCall, which is he's finding himself in a situation where he's the one that's unarmed and somehow still manages to maintain the advantage. So definitely ah a ballsy move that, that paid off for chance. I love it. That's big Indiana Jones vibes right there. just Oh, a good point. Yeah. Shooting a gas can and making it up on the fly.
00:45:36
Speaker
Yeah. While we're talking about that, Can we talk about McCall's ability to improvise weapons and set traps? Yeah. it's It's like Rambo level. You want to compare unique weapons? Sure. You got a list? Yeah, kind of.
00:45:50
Speaker
McCall. We got a corkscrew to the throat. How about a shot glass into the eye socket? Nice. A large hammer that he returned. It was nice enough. He got in-store credit for that thing, I believe.
00:46:03
Speaker
A black card in Equalizer 2. He killed a guy with black card, cut his throat or his face. A teapot on that train to Turkey in Equalizer 2. Nail gun, power drill.
00:46:15
Speaker
but That teapot reminded me of the the Stanley Thermos that the accountant uses. Yeah. Yeah. he sets the sort of hanging trap with yes the counterweight, the counterweight, I think being a bag of soil or is he using barbed wire? What is that? Yeah. Yeah. yeah i think he uses barbed wire and wraps it around the guy's neck and then counterweights it with it, with a bag of something. And that just why that was really cool.
00:46:40
Speaker
Yeah. Another one improvised, uh, some kind of gas canister in the microwave. Yeah. Good one. There's a one blue, blue the guy up. That is a kind of a ah mirror of chance using the gas canister, I guess. Yeah.
00:46:53
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. Boudreaux has some good ones too. i use that He kicks the gas can, turns into a bomb. He has a motorcycle. He turns into a bomb. Yeah. What is it? The moonshine on on his uncle's yeah property. The still. Yep. The whiskey still turns into a bomb.
00:47:07
Speaker
but but He rigs a snake. He rigs a snake. He rigs a snake into a booby trap. And this is where I got Rambo vibes too, because he he rips the the rattle off the the snake. And then now all of a sudden, what do you have? A weapon that he can plant almost like a landmine. Somebody stumbles across it, can't hear the rattle anymore. That's a pretty slick move.
00:47:29
Speaker
Do we have an X-Factor for these guys? Yeah, an X-Factor or a Path to Victory. I think they both do actually. I think something that makes McCall dangerous and incredibly unique versus anyone else in here, right? We said he was in his late fifties and that was in 2014 in 20 or was a 23 when the third movie came out, he's in his mid sixties. You watch all of these movies and TV shows and you do not see anyone else his age who is still handing it down like this. He still is perfectly hand hand capable with bare hands and weapons and everything.
McCall's Combat Advantages & Mental Preparedness
00:48:03
Speaker
He has the experience of age. He has the cool demeanor, but he hasn't lost any of his fighting capabilities, which is incredibly unique. And I think that's something that's definitely going to go to his favor.
00:48:16
Speaker
He kind of has it all. Yeah, for me, it's really just his ability to slow down time. You see it when he's counting down the seconds as he's killing his enemies.
00:48:28
Speaker
Even before he starts, he's analyzing the situation and he's thinking in you know within split seconds exactly how he's going to you know become the victor in the situation.
00:48:42
Speaker
You see that in so many scenes throughout the films. If it comes down to a head-to-head matchup between these two, that is going to be McCall's X factor. He can plan all day and prepare himself, which I think he would do very well. But if it comes time for him to react and do it in a split second, which you could see Chance bringing the aggression and not giving him time, McCall would still come out on top purely because of his ability to slow time down and um analyze the situation. Mm-hmm.
00:49:15
Speaker
Obviously, it seems like McCall right now seems to have the upper hand here. um But, you know, I think there's a path for Chance Boudreaux that I can't let go of yet.
00:49:26
Speaker
McCall, as we've been talking about, he dismantles people because he can ah anticipate their next move, for example. Everyone he faces either is predictable or they're giving something away like a tell or a pattern, something that McCall can read before it happens so that he doesn't ever seem surprised because he can he can pick up these patterns.
00:49:46
Speaker
But I'm wondering, what if there's nothing to read? We've kind of knocked Boudreaux before in his first matchup for being too chaotic where he doesn't have a plan. Sometimes he's unprepared. It seems like no real structure, but in this matchup, I'm wondering if it could actually help chance Boudreau, because how do you anticipate Boudreau? If he doesn't even know what he's about to do.
00:50:09
Speaker
McCall is super reliant on structure. Boudreau has no structure. And I'm wondering if that could break McCall chance might be the most explosive best athlete in the entire bracket. You know, you talking about speed, flexibility, power, all this stuff.
00:50:23
Speaker
I feel like that is the X factor right there. Is that unpredictability? Yeah, i I totally see that. Could Boudreaux be McCall's Achilles heel?
00:50:34
Speaker
I could definitely see that happening. to To dive even further into that, when you talk about all these iconic scenes where he sets a timer and he's just taking down an entire room full of people, there's one consistent thing in all of those scenes, which is that everyone underestimates him.
00:50:51
Speaker
And I don't know, would Boudreaux underestimate him here? Because you'll see him taking all these people down, and it's like they're going one at a time. They're not even giving him a second thought. But if it's him against a real force like Boudreaux, that's a lot tougher situation.
00:51:06
Speaker
I'll also give a little X factor for McCall before we get into the verdict, because I feel like I'm getting close here. Okay. Look at the Russian restaurant scene, Slavi's office, right? Look at the drug warehouse scene, also in Equalizer 1. Look at the Turkish train scene in Equalizer 2. These are not situations that he so randomly stumbles into, right? He walks into these knowing exactly what's about to happen in these scenes, right?
00:51:32
Speaker
And what does he bring with him? Nothing, nothing, not a thing, no weapon, no backup. He willingly steps into the enemy's turf in all three of these scenes. And there's more completely unarmed.
00:51:45
Speaker
And it's because he doesn't think he needs anything. McCall doesn't have a signature weapon. It was tough for me to think of a signature weapon for this guy, because I think it's his skill is the weapon. The weapon isn't like hidden in his pocket. His deadliest weapon I think is in his head.
00:52:00
Speaker
What's funny is I feel like both of these guys don't have a signature weapon. They they improvise a lot. They rely on their hand-to-hand close-quarter combat. And so, yeah, what happens when when these two guys meet and neither of them have a weapon? Yeah.
00:52:13
Speaker
I could see that being the the final showdown. I'm trying to imagine where they would meet. like Someone like McCall, you know obviously the Home Depot, but like you know his vibe, he's going to take the fight somewhere that's like a bookstore or a coffee shop.
00:52:28
Speaker
And then you think of Van Damme and like, he's going to try and stage the battle on a balance beam factory or like a tightrope convention.
00:52:39
Speaker
Now it's time settle the score.
00:52:51
Speaker
I don't know. Are we there guys? Or is there anything else that you want to bring up before I ask about the verdict? Now let's get into the verdict. Are we ready? Yeah. Let's talk about some verdicts here.
00:53:02
Speaker
First, let's talk about Chance Boudreau. Maybe this is a hot take. I mentioned this before. I think he's the most explosive best athlete in the entire bracket. So the thing is, when you start talking about this level, the elite level, the Bournes, the Rambos, the Wicks, you have to start looking at weaknesses too, even if they're small weaknesses.
00:53:23
Speaker
Boudreaux is shockingly inefficient. There's ah a lot of spraying bullets, a lot of missed shots. Compared to someone like Christian Wolfe, maybe, or the man with no name, these guys just fire one shot and they move on. Even on his kills, Chance is emptying like half a magazine just to finish the job. And in the FFC, I call that sloppy. And sloppiness can be a killer.
00:53:47
Speaker
So now let's flip over to McCall. What are his weaknesses? I'll wait. Yeah, that's the problem here. I don't see any weaknesses. And more importantly, he's everything that Boudreaux is not.
00:54:03
Speaker
He's very calm. He's efficient. He's prepared. He doesn't make mistakes. McCall just ends fights. He doesn't spray and pray. It's just one shot, one movement, and then boom, he's on to the next problem.
00:54:15
Speaker
Lastly, I've always thought that in anything, even you know sports, combat sports, anything, if you want to understand how dangerous someone is, don't ask their friends, ask their enemies.
00:54:27
Speaker
So let's do that. What does Teddy say about McCall? And remember, Teddy is this Spetsnaz-trained mercenary, undefeated professional killer.
00:54:39
Speaker
Teddy says this about the damage that he saw McCall inflict. Quote, whoever did this specializes in killing. I've rarely seen skills like this. I don't think it's someone we've encountered before.
00:54:52
Speaker
Now that's some bird versus magic level recognition right there. This is an incredible matchup, but you know, I have to take McCall in this. He wins this and his heart rate never gets above 25. That was a great call out to bird versus magic for the, for the Boston based character. Awesome.
Conclusion: McCall vs. Boudreaux Outcome
00:55:11
Speaker
Yeah.
00:55:12
Speaker
This is an epic showdown. It's one of those matchups that's early on in the bracket but contains two absolute heavyweights, some of the best characters I think in the tournament, despite Chance Boudreaux I think being one of the lesser known characters for most people. We talked about this earlier in the episode. Could Boudreaux be McCall's Achilles heel?
00:55:36
Speaker
I think he absolutely could. McCall can slow down time, but I don't think that matters with Boudreaux's intensity and athleticism. I disagree, Steve, that McCall has no weaknesses, but he is absolutely surgical when it comes to taking care of his enemies.
00:55:54
Speaker
Boudreaux can get as crazy as he wants, but McCall will be the one controlling this fight. It would be a close one for sure. I think McCall would struggle with Boudreaux, the roundhouse kicking young bull.
00:56:06
Speaker
I think it brings McCall's age into question a little bit, potentially a weakness for me there. Let's put a pin in that though for a future episode because overall for me, McCall is taking this one.
00:56:19
Speaker
All right, two votes for McCall. Great take, Chris. I was honestly expecting a split decision the way this was going. Looking into it, I am happy that I get to be the nail in the coffin.
00:56:32
Speaker
Robert McCall is an absolute badass, and if I'm trying to get them stats right now, Boudreaux might be a 10 out of 10 on hand-to-hand combat, but when it comes to weapons, he's a 5 or a 6. And when it comes to action hero worthiness, instinct, and killer ability. His aura sings a six to me.
00:56:51
Speaker
But when you talk about McCall, his hand-to-hand's an eight, his weapon is a nine, and his action hero aura is a fucking 11. He is absolutely top tier here. He has Jason Bourne abilities to walk into a room and take someone on one-on-one with no weapons. He has Rambo-level abilities to set traps and Macaulay Culkin is way out of situations. He is going to be apex tier and I cannot wait to see him there.
00:57:20
Speaker
Robert McCall an absolute goat and I'm so excited that he won this. Awesome. There we have it guys. It's three Oh chance. Boudreaux very cool character, but I'm sorry. Robert McCall advances because he's elite and that's a goddamn fact.
00:57:47
Speaker
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